Eminem - Love The Way You Lie ft. Rihanna

hi do u like this song

http://thehypefactor.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Eminem-feat-Rihanna-Love-The-Way-You-Lie.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uelHwf8o7_U

i really like it especially in the car, and rihanna's voice is anthemic in that way she can be, rallying us

also my friend says it's controversial or something

rihanna is so so fantastic on this

The song is awful, and Em sounds like a waiter asking the kitchen for another order of cheese sticks.

hahaha

this song is obviously atrocious

honest portrayal of domestic violence

me and this woman was singin it on the street today when somebody was blaring it out their car

don't mind the chorus but i can only get about ten seconds into em's verses before i switch it off

i feel like i'm driving around in my friend's volvo in highschool

not as good as the drake/em track

don't mind the chorus but i can only get about ten seconds into em's verses before i switch it off

^

My 14 year-old niece (who listens to top 40 radio but not rap/r'n'b radio) loves it; my 16 year-old son who listens to rap/r'n'b radio hates Em on this and most cuts; me--I'm not crazy about Em on this one.

thats why they call it windowpane :-(

yeah this song blows

thats why they call it windowpane :-(

otm

i mean the hook is tolerable sort of but i just wonder like, how much mediocre-to-bad rapping is one willing to put up with for one decent hook? is this gonna be like "empire state of mind" again?

empire verses were more interesting than these imo (tho that's not saying a lot), and keys' chorus was way bigger than rihanna's

on top of that hearing rih sing "that's alright because i like the way it hurts"...uh, too soon

xp agree to disagree on geriatric jay's rapping i guess, and yeah key's hook is aight but the showtuneness put me off.

i don't think it's any coincidence that riri sound exactly like haley whatsherface on "airplanes" on this. the imitation feels cynical

I can't believe this song has been such a huge hit, it's Rihanna's name that's selling it right?

Even though it's been hanging round the top five for the last two months I hadn't heard it till I clicked on this thread, but I pretty much started hating it as soon as the first verse started. I do like Rihanna but the chorus is quite uninspired. I think of her as quite a clever and talented performer but two years ago she was duetting with Maroon 5, this is somehow worse.

xp lol and that song sucks too - what was the last legit r&b/rap crossover hit that was actually good? i must just be forgetting

I can't believe this song has been such a huge hit, it's Rihanna's name that's selling it right?

that eminem dude's sold a few records too

the rihanna/m5 joint is dope imo

i like it. windowpane made me cringe, but i think the video's an accurate depiction of some relationships i've seen. so, whatever.

that eminem dude's sold a few records too

― k3vin k., Monday, August 16, 2010 4:33 AM (2 minutes ago)

I was under the impression his last album pretty much bombed and he was almost washed up, that may have been wishful thinking though.

relapse and recovery are both (about to be) double plat, unfortunately

can't believe this song is even being talked about

http://images.topix.com/gallery/up-NMB6CUBQAG4J303F.jpg

It's a huge hit and we're wondering why.

i must be ILX's only Eminem fan

he was pretty good back when he was rapping about charleston chews and stuff

well I mean I'm mostly a fan of Slim Shady LP and Marshall Mathers LP

i still can't quite get to grips with the way this eminem comeback is a thing - like more than any other artist i've ever liked he just seems so of his time, preserved in turn-of-the-century amber. and everything he's doing now is a weary retread of stuff he did back then, it's like if britney was still churning out "baby one more time" knock-offs.

I get to hear a lot of ringback tones at my job, and I assumed this one was a significantly less popular single from a newer artist possibly derivative of the Alanis Morrisette/Meredith Brooks/Avril Lavigne thing and so I google'd one line of lyrics and I was surprised that this was the famous "Love The Way You Lie" I had heard so much about. I suppose it's an ok chorus simply because it stuck in my head, but nonetheless annoying... As far as I can tell the verses are hugely forgettable and shouldn't be the reason why many people enjoy this song.

really surprised when i found out this was rihanna, figured it was just a preset.

Was really hoping that when Rihanna was on some proper 'lol chris brown' shit it would be a big tina turner anthem instead of this shit.

San Te - I think concensus is those first two records are dope.

Lex - I think it is understandable that Eminem would always be given a free comeback clause. Both in the same way that when the Rolling Stones still release records, they sell v. healthy numbers and also as a big figure head of not being associated w/ the southern rap sound so the people who misguided in thinking Gucci is a 'stupid' rapper can think that Em is still a 'smart' one. It's all bollocks obv. Also he's white.

Whiter than ever in fact.

i still can't quite get to grips with the way this eminem comeback is a thing -

But he really didn't go anywhere, did he? His sales haven't dropped significantly.

Yeah, he went five years w/o making a record, tho!

I guess, but he took a break at the height of his commercial powers.

I was telling J0rdan the other day that the disparity b/w Em's critical and commercial success lately is remarkable.

At the risk of repeating myself, I dunno, my take on this song is the same as my take on the whole record. That I still really enjoy listening to him RAP, and he's clearly rapping again (ie, compare the record to crap like "Crack A Bottle")—but the beats and choruses and concepts and ideas and everything else that actually makes up a song is kind of underwhelming and often smh.

I'm standing somewhere in that area between "I'm not ready to count him out" and "This thing definitely should not be the #1 song in the country"

I was telling J0rdan the other day that the disparity b/w Justin Bieber's critical and commercial success lately is remarkable.

Em's cuter though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEC-uSRWyZc

and you know what I meant. Exactly ten years ago we were all like MAJOR ARTIST and he's playing with pink jumpsuit-wearing Elton John; now his sales are the 2010 equivalent of his 2000 numbers and everyone but Rolling Stone yawns.

I was telling J0rdan the other day that the disparity b/w Sting's critical and commercial success lately is remarkable.

i can't claim to understand what makes for good rap, but i think it's pretty easy to hear the formulaic merit to this song. that chorus specifically is visceral, electrifying and powerful, and rihanna's voice is produced perfectly.

rihanna sounds glorious on it. made me like the song more than i thought i would. i seem to be hearing quite a lot of dysfunctional-love songs on the radio at the mo.

what was the last legit r&b/rap crossover hit that was actually good? i must just be forgetting

― k3vin k., Monday, August 16, 2010 12:31 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

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i love how comeback em is all emo rap all the time

ps slowly realizing em stole his old man flow from atmosphere lol

the woman at the cash register was just singing along to this as she rang me up

wonder how many times she has to hear it a day

It's definitely around once-hourly on the chart hip-hop/R&B station here.

I don't get it either, but people seem to be OBSESSED with this song. Right now this is probably the most common ringtone and song to be cranked up really loud on the display stereos where I work. Should be banned for the "I guess thats why they call it window pain" line alone.

it's actually a little too catchy for me, like it's making me kind of sick humming it

i don't think it's any coincidence that riri sound exactly like haley whatsherface on "airplanes" on this. the imitation feels cynical

― The Reverend, Sunday, August 15, 2010

OTM. this song just makes me want to hear "airplanes"

i still can't quite get to grips with the way this eminem comeback is a thing

i was thinking almost the same thing when this came on the radio the other day. like, at a certain point i thought (still think) em was this interesting major dude and then at some point he just ... stopped being interesting. but he keeps making music and some of it i sort of hate and some of it i sort of don't but none of it makes me ever think about him. some of my friends who still think of me as this huge em fan have asked me about the new record, assuming i'll have actually heard it, and i haven't.

I'm gonna go out on a limb though and say that, apart from Eminem's delivery (which is a really sad decline from, say, "Stan"), I actually sort of like the idea of them doing this song together. I mean, this isn't Em just churning back through another "SHOCKING!" Kim murder fantasy, this is a guy in his late-30s looking back at his abusive behavior and trying to actually chart the way it plays out, drawing you in with the lies and the "baby, it was me," and the attempt to turn the abuse around as a sign of how larger-than-life and dramatic their Hollywood romance is ("a tornado meets a volcano" etc), but making sure the listener has to see that bottom-line, this is a violent, dangerous, person whose Rihanna, by virtue of being Rihanna with everything we know she's been through, gives a sympathetic view of the victim, and again showing us how this thing ends up seeming to work for a while. "I like the way it hurts" could be a little more precise or nuanced but, overall, I've heard much, much worse public service announcements, and who knows, maybe some people who listen to this, it's some kind of wake-up call to get out of a relationship before it gets worse.

I do wish Rihanna got a verse or a bridge or something, but I get the logic of not doing that and just letting Em's one-sided version of events break down and reveal its own misogynistic bullshit. If he flubs up on technique and really lacks the finesse he had ten years ago, ehh, at least it's not just trying to do weak pop culture jokes a la "We Made You.

Basically, is it more offensive for Em and Riri to make an occasionally clumsy pitch at dealing with this material, or for Chris Brown to still be selling records at all?

btw, I glanced up from the screen while typing this and the dude at the next table in this coffee shop is watching a lyrics vid of this on YouTube

i don't think it's any coincidence that riri sound exactly like haley whatsherface on "airplanes" on this. the imitation feels cynical

― The Reverend, Sunday, August 15, 2010

that's entirely possible, especially since Em was on that remix of "Airplanes" while he was working on this album, but I don't think anyone s

aid to Rihanna "hey, sing this like the Paramore girl," i think they're both just generic pop-not-R&B hooks on rap songs.

i really should get around to watching the video of this, i saw a friend reacting to it on twitter the other day and finding it really offensive w/r/t how it handled the domestic violence issue (and she was really into how rihanna had approached the subject, in music and in interviews, previously)

Lex - I think it is understandable that Eminem would always be given a free comeback clause. Both in the same way that when the Rolling Stones still release records

yeah i guess i underestimated just how much cred he pissed away with the end of the first stage of his career. otm w/r/t the rolling stones comparison, though there seems to be a lot more populist goodwill rather than just nostalgic critical goodwill towards him.

this song is just perplexing. its verses are god-awful; the last lines of each leave my jaw hanging without exception because they are so bad. i feel like i am being sonically slapped in the face. then rihanna's chorus comes in and tells me everything's going to be ok for the moment. the title line is repeated three times and i feel comforted. and then eminem comes back. it's all very meta considering that the song is about abusive relationships. in that sense it is BRILLIANT but i'm not sure that was the intended effect.

its verses are god-awful

The windowpane/window pain line is just beyond belief.

xp lol like eminem is abusing your ears and then rihanna makes you realize you like the way it hurts?

that's really very insightful

em was this interesting major dude and then at some point he just ... stopped being interesting. but he keeps making music and some of it i sort of hate and some of it i sort of don't but none of it makes me ever think about him.

i feel like this is how ppl must have felt about the stones or the clash or green day (<---- http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/052/812/original/Deal_with_it_dog_gif.gif?1275684729)

eww the video for this is fucking gross

its real weird

To me the video betrays what's good about the song by having sexy people have sexy fights and sexy make-up sex. All of which would just about be justifiable if it rammed home Eminem's final line, where you realise the narrator's apologies and excuses are all bullshit and that he'll do it all again, only worse. Instead it cops out with this bad CGI inferno. I'm not saying this is a classic Eminem lyric but at least he's trying to do something interesting with an ambiguous narrator and the video botches it in a pretty reprehensible way.

i mean i feel like the video blows up that last line cause ify ou didn't catch the whole "i will tie you to the bed and set the house on fire" thing there is ACTUALLY A HOUSE ON FIRE to drive the point home

Yeah, but it's rendered so abstractly, as metaphor rather than reality, with Dominic Monaghan burning too, that you lose any sense of real, murderous violence.

idk i mean the whole "real murderous violence as metaphor vs. nonmetaphorical real murderous violence" is kinda what em does

when he's not, like, farting on kim kardashian

it's kind of surprising he decided to make a song with Rihanna on this topic instead of just making an off-color joke about her personal life on one of his last 2 albums

When was the last OK beat he rhymed over? Serious question. He's here again to remind us he's hip hop, but you get the feeling he actively hates a groove and hates dancing. It's like a new genre almost.

this song is inescapable on radio right now

it sounds clumsy and awkward to me more than anything. was suprised to find out that was rihanna on the hook.

i think the phenomenon about him still being 'really popular' & losing his 'critical appeal' might have something to do w/ his music 'sucking now'

redneck dude in my apartment complex BLASTING the new album the other day. there's a couple million of those guys, who probably only buy Eminem albums and country and maybe bought 50's first because of the Em co-sign.

i'm surprised @ the number of people in this thread that were surprised to find out rihanna was on this. i think her voice has a very identifiable timbre.

yeah me too

Not surprising to me but the only self-identified Eminem fans I've seen out here lately have been goths. (Attire/backpack/lunchbox almost always featuring a patch or sticker of his plus one for Marilyn Manson and a rotating Cure/Deftones one.)

he's def the rapper that goths could like

The whole self-loathing things sells well to that demographic, iirc.

true

Plus, Hot Topic.

yea, but Hot Topic will always be in style.

my friend actually just found a hot topic card in her wallet the other day - she hadn't cleaned it out in years.

hey guys, 14 more posts and we'll have to have a fold for a thread about a 2010 eminem song

let's keep it going

we should just turn this thread into a pledge drive so that there's some point to it

well i mean i hadn't heard a new em song in years until this thread so that's publicity for you

i still hate his rapping--always have, always will

I think I've said this elsewhere, and I know I'm in the minority of one on ILM, but I actually kind of don't hate his new album. I'm glad he ditched the stupid fucking pop culture and silly voices thing that dominated the last two and went back to this bitter, confessional thing. I expected far, far worse.

Nothing to hate -- it's just irrelevant.

Irrelevant? Number one on the Billboard charts is hardly irrelevant.

it's critically irrelevant in the sense that it's recognized as terrible and as such no one wants to talk about it

different spheres of relevancy, both you and alfred are right

not everything that is popular is "relevant"

guess it's essentially like when nickelback goes no. 1 or whatever

right

don't stop now guys

and can i say i would totally love to see blog shots fired over a the parsing of a nickelback record

I'm not so sure this is universally recognize as "terrible" though, but I'm not arguing your point. I still think this single is pretty relevant though, considering the current cache of both Rihanna and Megan Fox.

is that megan fox? i thought so but wasn't pos

I mean this is probably as close to an "event video" we're going to get outside of Gaga in 2010.

the thing is I don't know that he's "critically irrelevant" either, I mean on ILX yeah but there are a lot of people who seem to rep for Eminem still, rate him highly as an emcee (one of the GOATs), etc... which is perplexing to me in and of itself (see: In retrospect, Eminem kind of sucks right? ) this album has been seen as a big comeback after relapse and encore (which even Em admits were godawful)

Esp wrt to the controversy.

well, pop singles are always going to be more relevant than pop albums (generally speaking, aside from, idk, 'thriller' or something) because singles are more unavoidable than albums -- it's very easy to not have an opinion on the new eminem album if you don't want to have one -- the same can't be said for this song

just bc Eminem is Somebody Nobody Should Like doesn't render this song irrelevant. that seems to be a bit of an obvious attitude.

The era up to and including Marshall Mathers LP is still fucking aces in my book, no matter how many people want to distance themselves from it now. Dude was dropping great shit back then, see his contribution to the second Soundbombing for a good example.

well i don't think this song is irrelevant, i just don't see why anyone would wanna talk about it

the album is irrelevant tho

well i don't think this song is irrelevant, i just don't see why anyone would wanna talk about it

As opposed to talking about the fifteenth sound-alike Gucci mixtape of the year. I'm partially kidding of course, but I hate to see this "I don't like it, so why are you even talking about it" attitude from an ilxor I respect.

sorry 4 trolling

i love you ramzi

haha. i love u too.

anyway i think the hook on this song is really good and i understand why it's a hit but eminem's rap verses are the #1 thing in pop music that i don't want to hear, above all your ke$has and derulos and whatever

I think the album is pretty relevant, I mean it is the best selling album of the year and was #1 for like 5 weeks straight or something like that..

i mean it's provoking discussion about more than whether or not it should be provoking discussion so xxxxxxxps nvm me

and yeah the hook of this song is very nice, Rihanna did a nice acoustic medley of this and "Airplanes" at her recent concert, one of the hilights

she is really awful live though, stage presence of a doorknob. not surprising, but still

i love the "airplanes" hook too, better than this -- and i actually warmed to those verses

it kills me to admit that airplanes is a good song

i just hate that that fucking guy is talking about back in the day before we were famous shit--like, i'd never heard of you dude

i wouldn't call it a "good" song, it's not awful though... Eminem's verse gets on my nerves though, WHY DOES HE SOUND LIKE THAT, it really bothers me :|

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Let's not forget "I guess that's why they call it window pain".

that sounds like a drake line

Lady Antebellum will still outsell this by year's end, I think.

"isn't it ironic that it's called a windowpane?"

i've never heard the em version of "airplanes" tho

taylor swift will outsell both

truthbomb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0YfoA4mHWU

*eugh*

it's like 10,000 windows when all you need is a window pain

hey he could have rhymed "window pane" with "Gucci Mane."

lollll zornbond

that song with lil wayne that samples haddaway is getting lots of play too... >_<

i don't know what that is but still *smh*

See I loved "Not Afraid", am ambivalent to "Love the Way You Lie", completely HATE the Lil Wayne song, but still generally have more positive than negative feelings for the album as a whole. Also hate the Black Sabbath sampling song though.

NOWADAYS WE RAPPIN 2 STAY RELEVANT

sez b.o.b LOL

saying country will outsell rap in 2010 is not a BOLD PREDICTION guys

Don't think thats exactly what was being said though, just that even though Em has the top selling album of the year so far - it won't last.

ps slowly realizing em stole his old man flow from atmosphere lol

yuuuurp

Yeah, but like instead it's stilted and just feels technical-for-the-sake-of-being-technical, and there's no elasticity in it. It's clinical, like a poor man's T.I. now. It's a sterile flow. I can't stand it.

UYGH.

I don't get the hate for the video, which is great. Makes me notice the lyrics of the song, which otherwise sounds like a morning DJ playing Rihanna snippets. The video pretty clearly emphasizes the ambiguous narration, and I love the way it uses Dominic Monaghan in an unsavory role.

Haven't listened to the album much yet, but I've liked the sound and flow of his rapping better on these last couple than on any of the previous ones. In re Slug (who's like a month older), I don't really see the resemblance anymore, though it inevitably came up 11 years ago, and "Lose Yourself" (along with Nas's "One Mic") is very "Scapegoat."

lol at "morning DJ playing Rihanna snippets"

this song is everywhere fuuuuuuckkkkkkkk

yahhhh trick yahhhhhhh

love the chic ref in your display name but no idea what the rest is

oh shit, just realized it should be:

hope that makes more sense

i knew something looked off

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100803133243AAve1kO

whats goin on

i mispelled yr surname

heard this in @ a restaurant Friday night

great hanging out eating w/ yr friends or family music u_u

window pain & french fries

too true

Heard this in Borders on Friday night, good for browsing.

I like how they've taken Joan of Arc and updated her to the 21st century.

I've decided that I actually like this song. surm otm, it makes a kick-ass coming on over the radio in the car song.

heard it in a DJ mix on an actual rap station for the first time the other day :(

walked through a street carnival and they were blasting this while kids rode around on a lil amusement ride. sooo weird

the goddamn bridge of "not afraid" eurrrrghhh

i knooooow

Yeah, even as one of the few defenders of that particular song around here, that bridge is atrocious.

like... the rest sux but i can deal dealwithit.jpg

but the bridge is a thing of horror

I think the only reason I like "Love The Way You Lie" so much is because it isn't "Not Afraid"

two years ago a friend of mine
asked me to say....NO MIMES

^lol rong thread

Anyway, ugh. I just figured out that "Not Afraid" is Em's attempt to write a Rihanna song.

errrr

a Rihanna song "Umbrella"

I'm tired.

wait what

fucking enough already with this song, fuck fuck fuck fuck

Was about to repost your

this song is everywhere fuuuuuuckkkkkkkk

At a sandwich shop, heard it twice in an hour, with "Not Afraid" in between.

love the way you lie pt. 2 on new rihanna album, just rihanna (no em), yessssssss

yeah i'm sure it'll be just as good as alicia's empire state of mind pt 2

lol

Live Your Life is a good song though right?

fucking braindead cretins still wanting to play this song

the radio here is playing the fucking haddaway song

is there a new haddaway song or are you pretending there is not a 100% legitimate reason for radio stations to play "what is love"

no the em/wayne song samples it

you can tell curtis lives in atlanta

there's a love the way you lie part 2 on rihanna's album

thank you based god

Ok, now they are playing IWHIPMYHAIRBACKANDFORTH, which is making up for it.

Part II:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdy--5dFdkw&
Much better.

waht?? there's a part II???

woah it's pretty

i'm liking this trend of hook singers reclaiming songs they made into hits for over the hill rappers

there's a pt 1?

lol "window pane" was just the answer to a $2000 Double Jeopardy question.

I've changed my mind, I love this song. "Window Pane" is stupid from any formalist rap point of view, but it's the kind of thing the character in the song might actually come up with. And the hook is undeniable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xenwHeU4CaQ

every character in every Eminem song is an unsympathetic asshole who thinks horrible puns are clever.

i am listening to it again now

have kind of decided this is more hilariously bad than horrifyingly bad, but just barely -- not just for the window pane line but for "when a tornado and a volcano" and "LOOK ME IN THE EYEBALL"

i liked when this was on the radio

"not afraid" & "love the way you lie" are my least favorite back-to-back pop singles in a long fucking time

probably since "i kissed a girl" & "hot & cold"

i dislike "not afraid" but like the rest of those

You have shit taste.

<3 u boo.

http://i.imgur.com/81RgR.png

http://rookiemag.com/2013/08/not-my-superman/

God, I had honestly forgotten about this shit. Really don't think I've heard it since 2010; did the nation come to its senses?

It still gets decent radio play where I live.

Great essay there.

still gets play

The song is awful, and Em sounds like a waiter asking the kitchen for another order of cheese sticks.

― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, August 15, 2010 11:25 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink