curren$y (or currensy i guess) - pilot talk

i wanted to start a thread for this because i think it's really great.

the beats are so smoove

Yeah, I love this album – have played it obsessively for two weeks.

this is pleasantly compensating for my increasing disappointment w/big boi (nb i actually bother to buy like 5 hip-hop albums a year so i gotta pick my spots)--they're both in my car these days and it's been no trouble choosing which one to put on.

i really like how unnatural he can sound rapping abt the standard signifiers (money/cars/girls/etc.)--like a lot of the songs can be read as these blazed daydreams of some guy chillin in his room in nola.

That sounds right.

also: the beats and musical backdrops are way more detailed than I expected.

Liking what I'm hearing.

I love the disc, but I actually don't think he sounds that odd rapping about money/cars/girls.

he definitely has a lackadaisical, circular flow that works for him, tho i disagree that the beats are a selling point here

need to listen again tho

maybe this is a challop, but i think ski is a pretty boring producer

i don't know what else he's done but i think this is super funky--i believe i'm hearing a lot of live bass on it which is rad

i said i'd quit smokin these beats but i relapsed

now this is what i fuck with

http://nahright.com/news/2010/08/17/video-curreny-twistin-stank-hard-in-the-paint/

"lookin down at my watch it's like i'm flyin over vegas"

i think it's hilarious that after quoting "hard in da paint" he momentarily slips into "b.m.f." as if to illustrate that no one can tell the difference between lex luger beats

i love that "the day" just sounds like somebody took a just blaze beat and notched it down to 70%

hahah that's otm

like a lot of the songs can be read as these blazed daydreams of some guy chillin in his room in nola.

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, August 17, 2010 7:15 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

"best dressed in attendance and i never left the house"

kinda wish devin didn't manage to skeez me out within his first 3 lines cause otherwise chilled coughee is soooo fuckin summertime sweet

got this but I have two other albums to listen to first

maybe this is a challop, but i think ski is a pretty boring producer

― be my anchor baby (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, August 17, 2010 3:25 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

huge rong challop

that said, i was surprised how disappointed I was w/ how his sound worked w/ currensy's here. this record is not my favorite currensy material i gotta say

currensy still a great rapper tho

deej what is yr fave curren$y material btw

higher than 30k feet is my fave, not that you asked

other ppl can share their favorite curren$y material too!

'this aint no mixtape' -- higher than 30 & the joint one w/ wiz from last year are dope too

i love the production on this album (the live instruments are a great touch) but I still don't "get" curren$y completely... he's obviously a goo rapper but his delivery/voice is just soooooooo monotonous and boring. i feel like all of the people who've jacked his style (wayne, wiz, etc.) do "curren$y" better than curren$y does

^yea that is otm imo

Don't hear the monotony at all -- sounds like concentration to my ears.

yeah the laziness in his voice is 100% an atmospheric stoner affectation imo

this record is not my favorite currensy material i gotta say

― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Tuesday, August 17, 2010 4:56 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

currensy still a great rapper tho

― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Tuesday, August 17, 2010 4:56 PM Bookmark

Yuuuuuup. Smokee Robinson mixtape from earlier this year and How Fly w/ Wiz are my favorite Curren$y material.

a lot of the songs can be read as these blazed daydreams of some guy chillin in his room in nola.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snsx14aGzCA

damn, for some reason i read the word "hotel" into that post, which is entirely key to his aesthetic

and key to my post :(

k this album rulez

this album is better than i thought, but i really love the dynamic that him & wiz have

the thing that's great about him is that it's almost impossible to tell where lines begin and end... he's sort of like someone who raps much faster, except obv currensy is languid as fuck

yeah he just has these run on based or craig finn lines where there isn't really meter he just goes in

I think these beats are gorgeous, languorous things that are actually really interesting if you examine them closely. That statement about Ski is def challops, J0rdan.

i love the production on this album (the live instruments are a great touch) but I still don't "get" curren$y completely... he's obviously a goo rapper but his delivery/voice is just soooooooo monotonous and boring. i feel like all of the people who've jacked his style (wayne, wiz, etc.) do "curren$y" better than curren$y does

― aborted based fetus (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, August 17, 2010 7:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

cant understand anyone thinking hes better than wiz. also dont u like that dude LES??? that guy is the definition of generic

thinking hes WORSE than Wiz i mean

like this dude writes the laziest most stoned paragraphs ever

thinkin that is exactly why the new record is not a good representative of his style

yeah he really has found a near perfect balance between rambling and a precise flow & then sometimes he'll hit you with a sliver of a crystal clear image that kind of stops you in your tracks

like on the "super high" remix when he goes "chronic twisted up like fingers and gang signs"

come to think of it, i wish more beats on this album were like "super high" -- more precise and languid, and less busy

ha sudden memory of late 2008 riding the bus mumbling to myself

"my name is...........my name."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z4MYp2kw2c

like listen 2 this & tell me he cant rap -- he raps circles around wiz here

wiz definitely isn't the more seasoned rapper -- i could see how people could like him more, but he can come off as too much of a goofball at times

like i said tho, i think they have a good thing together and that joint mixtape is probably the most enjoyable thing that each has done

yeah
the backseat is for newborns, homie im grown
i hop in front and drive this bitch on my own
out the driveway, windows half-raised bumpin Maze or some Sade
chuckin the deuces to my neighbors like some Houston players
got the 2-door caprice black & red like a sega genesis
password first pimpin or you can't get into this hanger
access denied, you can't fly
you a lame spider man tangled in a web of lies
local travel, red eyes, plan plot strategize
double XL now i'm after the source and the vibe
only magazines yet to recognize in 2009
nigga worth it he deserve it he aint perfect but he workin on that second album
drop the first one with amalgam
digital dollars
a full flight's weather massages will be provided by my down-ass exotic dancin italian goddess
the planes got it
thats why she ridin with the pilot
fine spitter smoked out in the same crowd where waldo was spotted
orange rectangle boxes in my pockets
niggas on the quest like johnny and hodges

he destroys this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyeYbKqi_6M&feature=player_embedded

damn i aint heard that "how fly" tape. serious shit. it's almost like az in the rapid fire "where is he breathing" style shit.

holy shit xp

I think Curren$y's easily the better rapper between him and Wiz, but Wiz's personality is a little more outward while Curren$y's is more insular. Wiz also has a knack for catchy hooks, more so than Curren$y, I think. But they work well together. Just enough overlap in their styles but enough divergence between the two.

this was one of my favorites
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEgZ0sqPLRs&feature=player_embedded

can u see why id be a lil disappointed in the new one after hearing these??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLFqJOzcPRU&feature=player_embedded

dude went from nu-nas to 'i think wiz is better' over the course of one album :-/

i mean the thing is i just don't hear him going for the same stuff on this record. all these beats are so languid and jazz fusiony, he doesn't really give himself a chance to go hard here, maybe for the sake of album flow. there aren't really any bangers!

I think he sorta lets loose on tracks like "Address" (great track: "MAKING HOT WHEELS OUT OF HOOPTIES!"). And I think he goes in just as hard lyrically, it's just that the flows aren't as speedy. But the beats aren't built for those kind of flows.

the thing that's great about him is that it's almost impossible to tell where lines begin and end...

yes, otm!

the thing that's great about him is that it's almost impossible to tell where lines begin and end...

yes, otm!

― The Reverend, Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:46 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yep.

too cool to bust a gun i don't have to duck and run i can fuck a bum up quick but that's some tenth grade shit

<3 this

the beat is like herbie hangin out on sesame street

i saw the mac when i was only 11 years old
and swore to never to be a simp for a ho
approach the close door
it crack open before my eyes
shorty with a doobie of her own
i am not surprised
cause i don't kick it on the low
with no bitch that don't get high
wrap me a to-go plate
and ask if i want her to drive
cause i got far too much on my mind
industrial size gears
i'm caught in the grind
at ya grandmas house
plastic cover on the couch
before i sit down she crushin me
for smellin like a pound

^^^ killin it imo

so high
my neighbors thought i moved out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9EuIRsXoL8&feature=player_embedded

this was out way before the album but yeah its dope

LOL @ Stalley's Freeway-meets-Rick Ross beard.

new vid btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kCTqVM6V3c

flow hippie, comfortable, beanbag, chiiiiilllll

on the ground i am
like a quarterback attacking defensive linemen

"the hangover" is kinda hilarious cause he raps over a 110 bpm beat like it was 130 bpm, with the former seeming just as relatively fast for him as the latter would be for most rappers

the more i listen to 'this aint no mixtape' the more i realize i pretty much missed the boat not calling this a classic last yr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYkPxF2bYkg

don't really understand how this guy got so huge, how did ppl become fans of him? like "where da cash at" was cool and if he was still on young money he might be their best rapper, but i've yet to hear any recent solo stuff that's exciting on any level.

this aint no mixtape is awesome man

i mean why are cheech & chong huge .... its no big mystery, hes an affable stoner w/ a unique persona & is a really really skilled rapper

hes also been rapping coast to coast w/ pretty much anybody from j stalin to french montana, doing the regional guest verse thing

maybe 20% of all rappers talk a ton about smoking weed, though, and him and wiz aren't exactly red & meth in terms of approaching it w/ humor or personality

there really arent that many rappers who talk about it this exclusively! kinda tiring of the Some Dude 'why is this rapper suddenly so popular??' thing -- made more sense when u were talking about big krit, less so a rapper who has been releasing mixtapes and building steady buzz for the last four years while guesting on lots of ppl's songs

xp i don't think the point of curren$y is to approach it with humor--his thing is a lot darker imo.

i mean why are cheech & chong huge .... its no big mystery, hes an affable stoner w/ a unique persona & is a really really skilled rapper

― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Thursday, August 19, 2010 1:21 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

spent a second trying to remember when cheech & chong became really skilled rappers

curren$y isn't about being funny (even if he is sometimes), he's about being ~~fly~~

word

damn... higher than 30,000 feet

d-_-b

whoa this is good

30,000 feet or pilot talk?

pilot talk

i'll check out some of those tapes in a bit, don't think i've heard any of em

i've been out of the loop on rap for a couple years now, gotta start lurking rolling goon thread maybe

i get why ppl think currensy is boring if theyve just heard pilot talk tbh

yeah, it's fine has its moments obv, but i think it's prob the least good currensy album/mixtape i've heard

i dl'd this a while ago and still haven't listened to it, so hi thread.

i think maybe 'elevator musik' is my fav currensy track right now

that one is super-dope

ok this doesn't sound quite as miraculous a few days later but it's still the best rap album i've heard in 2010. which probably means i need to hear more new stuff, but i haven't seen anyone repping hard for any albums/tapes this year except for this one and the big boi disc.

i liked this but didn't love it, maybe need some more listens tbh

i agree that curren$y is more of an effect than a leader on this album but goddamn the beats are good and C doesn't take anything away from them.
This feels a little frontloaded to me. Real nice overall tho'.

I dunno, I actually think Pilot Talk is better than his previous stuff, as a whole.

there really arent that many rappers who talk about it this exclusively! kinda tiring of the Some Dude 'why is this rapper suddenly so popular??' thing -- made more sense when u were talking about big krit, less so a rapper who has been releasing mixtapes and building steady buzz for the last four years while guesting on lots of ppl's songs

― NOT FUNNY NEEDS MORE GUCCI (deej), Thursday, August 19, 2010 11:45 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah sorry it is a bit predictable from me. but MTV Jams keeps playing the "Life Under The Scope" video back to back with Wiz's "This Plane" and i'm just scratching my head like holy shit this is some boring-ass rap music. the "Scope" beat is so wack I'm disappointed in Ski for making it.

wtf that beat is great!

i just want to listen to 'elevator music' all the time. i hate 2 be that dude who's all like 'the mixtapes/old stuff is better' but in this case they really really are

i hate 2 be that dude who's all like 'the mixtapes/old stuff is better'

riiiiiiiiiiiiight

naw deej otm

haw i do love 2 be that dude

but im still right in this case

I hope you're right but you're not.

???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBsJJd2r92E

i seriously am tempted to do a "is this beat good or bad" poll because honestly to my ears that shit was drowned in wack juice and then sauteed in a wack marinade

it's ~chill~

all this talk about chili and marinades is not helping my hunger, dudes

i like the life under the scope beat

it sounds a bit different in that music vid though from the album track, like its mixed differently or something

oh it doesn't sound like it the drums were mixed down in a cave on the album?

which probably means i need to hear more new stuff, but i haven't seen anyone repping hard for any albums/tapes this year except for this one and the big boi disc.

this is a problem

admittedly it hasn't been a huge year for rap tbh but both of these albums are pretty overrated & prob not in my top ten of the year. i think 2011 is going to be a great year for rap, though. a lot of cool shit sprouting these days

Nah, Rick Ross and Shabazz Palaces are terrific too.

ppl have been repping for lots of (quite varied) stuff this year.

xxxp yeah, the drums are way undermixed (intentionally, i imagine) but it works imo. knocking hard is not that track's purpose

i think it's been a pretty good year for rap tbh

yeah obv there's no one way all beats should sound, i'm just saying it sounds like garbage to me, the drums and the synths and everything. sounds like something i'd hear on a local mixtape and run to the skip button on.

wuht i thought shabazz palaces was last year? they already got something out this year?

samosa otm about both the big boi & pilot talk being overrated/not top ten/etc but both are fine and i think most ppl here if they started shitting on them it would be kind of disingenuous to do so

naw shabazz was last year but no one here was talking about it til this year

I think I saw the first review posted in January.

yeah, late-breaking definitely, but i think it came out last summer

for me rap in 2010 is a handful of solid releases from mid-weight dudes (gucci, jeezy, z-ro & friends, ross) and some really promising debuts, and then cool subterranean internet rap nerd shit like lil b & odd future & young l bay slap. as much as i love that yelawolf tape i strongly believe the follow-up will surpass it, and it's going to be really interesting to follow him and like, roach gigz and and krit too. hopefully starlito, too. lots of fun to be had listening but most of my favourite releases are auspices of hope that some 10/10 world-defeating rap music is in the works

last thing i want to do is shit on big boi or currensy, just hope that people cast a bit of a wider net as barometer of rap in 2010. there are like seven enormous jams on sir luscious

put me up on roach gigz. i am not up on him.

this is kind of a weird incubator year, if that makes sense. but that mostly tells me things are healthy, even a lot of good stuff is not right at the forefront.

or even in its most developed state. like, there's a lot of potential in the air right now.

and i love that.

what im sayin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4KLGmKcTOE&feature=related

get that tape rev

thanks be to deej iirc

xxxp thanks for throwing out all those names, i needed some new starting points i guess. been meaning to check out lil b ever since i noticed that lengthy thread about him.

admittedly it hasn't been a huge year for rap tbh

- samosa gabreel

o my ladies, o my gentlemen, let it be known that these are the words of a man whose response to any part of the 20-year career of e-40 is "no thanks".

o my fellow ilxors great and good, there is hardly then any need to put it to you that these are therefore the words of a man whose statements concerning rap cannot be trusted without the gravest of misconceptions ensuing.

idk man seems pretty good to me

the e-40 is dope. probably my #1 rap album still

i like the 'scope' beat its like 'everyday struggle' vibe w/ less hard drums

i dig the "everyday struggle" beat -- the synths are a bit corny, but i don't see anything wrong with the beat as a whole

naw i love the synths -- they make the beat imo

also reminds me of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goTp_B8E92k

its this weird melodic new york thing that makes me think of dudes playing chess in the park or something. idk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgZX71tbr3w

i know this is like a made up genre but i feel it like deep yo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRMoCTiBsgg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rogvlB2SP4k

lol zvook

god the new youtube play button is hideous

YES

it's awful

yurrrr

Disposable Arts > A Long Hot Summer

agreed

that track is off DA btw

ooooooooooook i need to re-listen to the e-40 album(s?)

i have a feeling the yelawolf album will disappoint

i love 'pilot talk' tho and 'smokee robinson' too

what are ppls fav mixtapes? ive got how fly, this aint no mixtape & smokee robinson... any other ones worth getting

30000 feet ... i have fin on my computer somewhere need to hear again

zvookster weren't u saying that cee-lo song is too goofy? e-40 is like the goofiest shit on this earth

anyways i've been listening to day shift. i am working on these things

i was into 30K and also Super Tecmo Bowl

i love the production on this album (the live instruments are a great touch) but I still don't "get" curren$y completely... he's obviously a goo rapper but his delivery/voice is just soooooooo monotonous and boring. i feel like all of the people who've jacked his style (wayne, wiz, etc.) do "curren$y" better than curren$y does

― aborted based fetus (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, August 18, 2010 8:59 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark

this is kinda how I feel after two listens...it's like I wouldn't even mind if you went off on some backpack spaceshuttle out there type stuff but the tropes are so standard and he's got no swagger at all

(yes yes I know check the mixtapes out maybe I will, later)

wow the e-40 album is massive

love love the beat on 'over the stove'

that twinkly arpeggio makes the 'life under the scope' beat for me and it's mixed too low to hear or gone completely in the youtube/single version

currensy is allll swagger

bags of purple
strong enough to bring stefan urquelle out of urkel

wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

feeling this btw

this dude is pretty much 'keep it positive' x stoner

haha otm

my name....is my name

this (from 30k) is superdope:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mI3chJCunY

well the truth, she ain't lyin to you
she is with her girl, but her girl over here too

― GRIZZLY! GRRR! GRRR! So Indie Entertaaaaiiiinmeeent! (The Reverend), Wednesday, Suggest Ban Permalink
February 10, 2010 5:54 PM Bookmark

hahah

my name....is my name

― lmborghini (The Reverend), Monday, September 6, 2010 5:50 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

o...........tm

where haven't we been yet? ...atlantis...shangri la...

slo mo in my fast whip

polar bear pimpin got your woman catchin chills

ive been posting some of his new stuff in fruity swag thread

iirc you posted some of his old stuff in a text to me this morning

otm -- *gets high & rides around to it*

"chilled coughphee" is great

i think 'pilot talk' starts & ends really well -- the middle portion is kinda soft tho -- "seat change" beat is one of my least favorite of the year

michael knight is aight but that song w/ fiend is so dope

Hmmm, I actually feel like it takes a few tracks to really warm up. And that's including "Seat Change," which I agree is a bit weak. After that, though? My favorite three-track sequence on the album is right in the middle: "Roasted" (love the juxtaposition of hungry articulate rapping w/ that super-mellow weed-haze wood flute)->"Skybourne"->"Hangover."

"Address" should be the closer, to be honest. Switch the order of that and "Life Under the Scope," which has a kind of dinky beat, and you have a great closer.

finally someone agrees with me about that beat

pilot talk 2 is around -- still dont really feel michael knight but the rest is pleasin meh

thanx for the heads up

Love Pilot Talk 2.

got pilot talk 2 today and it is DOING IT for me. man I love this.

im into dis

Pilot Talk 2 >>>>> the first. I can't stop listening. The tracks are so much denser and slower, and Curren$y sounds totally comfortable kicking it.

gotta go out and get this today

yeah this shit is dope

i love "montreaux"

and the guitar on "A Gee."

"montreaux" reminds me of "The Caves of Altamira" kinda

I listened to this album three or four times straight the other night.

The second one is much better and it's it a lot to doneith Michael knight

yeah ive been saying this guys ... on the 1st one he was just a sleepy stoner, i was really confused about why ppl were so into it. this one hes back on the artful rap style that he does best

OG (The Jam) is like someone gave him a big cup of coffee

that's the best song on here, changed my mind

the beat on that flight briefing track is kinda absurd to hear in 2010

it's always so jarring when iTunes hops from Curren$y to Current 93- this has happened many times and it's just . . . whoah

i was really confused about why ppl were so into it.

I'd never heard of him before Pilot Talk, so.

deej when I'm making this active effort to not be on your ass all day "I've been saying this" on the day an album comes out is practically irresistible bait

'i told you so' was that curren$y was much better than pilot talk let on, based on his earlier mixtapes, which i mentioned/discussed upthread. ppl who included the 1st on one best-of lists are chumps imo -- subpar

also 'i told u so' is kind of basic-level deej persona ish

keep it classy

Never heard the mixtape, liked the first album a lot, love this one; the second album illuminates the first, actually.

you should hear the mixtapes, which are more albums than mixtapes anyway

will do

the second album illuminates the first, actually.

― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, November 24, 2010 1:22 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

how do u mean this? curious

I'm still working through PT2, understand, but without it I listened to PT1 for months as a series of discrete moments, rarely getting a sense of who Curren$y was.

i can see how that would happen -- esp if by 'who he is' you mean ... how he is about his art? kind of?

can't wait to hear pilot talk 2 (it's in the mail) -- really dug the first one

i dont think deej is the only one to prefer the mixtapes to pilot talk? seems a pretty common opinion

i like both pilot talks a lot. he def sounds 100x more alert on this one. nice counterweight imo.

also 'i told u so' is kind of basic-level deej persona ish

― challop and a muff (deej), Wednesday, November 24, 2010 1:18 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

because you've constructed a 'persona' for yourself doesn't make it less annoying fwiw

is it really all that 'constructed' -- u just mean 'because im self-aware about it'

either way, *shrugs*

deej what people are trying to tell you is that "I told you so" is a shitty look that you might make an actual effort to outgrow & rise above instead of feeling like getting so say it is life's #1 sweetest reward

sorry to have to be bein' a dick to u again but for real yo, everybody on the fuckin planet hates dudes who come w/"I was here first, I heard it first, how great that you now know what I knew all along"

like EVERYBODY....HATES that

I say that w/love though u won't believe it but just consider me your dashingly attractive grandfather who once saw Duke play or w/e

deej is otm about his mixtapes being way better than pilot talk tho

lol that is what's frustrating about deej, he actually knows his shit & is often right, and then he ruins being the guy who's right by standing on the corner w/a big sign that says DEEJ WAS RIGHT, RECOGNIZE

hahaha

is it really all that 'constructed' -- u just mean 'because im self-aware about it'

everyone enjoys being right & everyone is self-aware about that fact -- you're not the kanye of ilx

and anyway i'm not sure what you're claiming to be right about

anyway anyway i have yet to hear this record -- i dig curren$y in doses & when the production is juuuuuuust right, which i don't think it was that often on pilot talk -- didn't think it was lush enough all the way thru -- either way i like his style tons in theory, usually less in practice over the length of a full album

to my ears this splits the diff between lush & spare -- my expertise in the genre is at best dated but having said that there's a little bit of old west-coast crawl in this as I hear it, something v. understated & groovy. I listened to the whole album twice today with varying levels of attention & much, much pleasure, texting friends "fuckin A go hear the new curen$y" etc -- it just snapped for me, and I'm pretty out-of-touch rap-wise, listen to anything on stones throw & don't really hear much else so take that fwiw

listened to pilot talk 1 while i went to pick up 2--1 still owns imo, smoove beats all over the gd place

i think the real problem w/ the first pilot talk was that his rapping on it felt lazy, which was like, all you got out of it was this stoner-persona, the lilt of his vocals, & some nice if mis-matched production from ski. Also, guest stars with Respected Rap Pedigrees like jay electronica & mos def spitting guest verses. Anyone introduced to him through this record would have to feel underwhelmed

I think a problem that ive dealt with w/ curren$y & gucci & other rappers -- and something i tried to hammer home in the last line of my last gucci review -- is that saying 'the mixtapes were better' is not the kind of strategic 'i was down when he was underground' type positioning that it used to be. that 'the mixtapes' now are the catalog, and anyone engaging with rap seriously should know 'the mixtapes.' no one should be 'waiting around for the album.' it just doesnt make sense. these 'mixtapes' are straight-up full albums.

curren$y's mixtapes -- and pilot talk 2 sounds more like them than it does the first pt -- are great because they focused on a specific laid back vibe (which the first pt only occasionally glanced on, inexplicably) that created a sorta blank, relaxed platform for curren$y to spin some really interestingly-constructed lyrics. Like Gucci, his subject matter is fairly narrow; what's interesting is how deftly he weaves each individual word, sculpting verses that fold in on themselves like some kind of rapping origami crane. Its something that just sluices by you at first, but rewards repeat listens, these little intricacies that aren't used to make a 'point,' that aren't functional, they just exist as pieces of art on their own, each one with its own physical shape or something. The interesting parts are how each verse is constructed, theres a real beauty to the way each rhyme interacts on an individual line. its not 'deep,' its just art

shinobi how i kick it / american ninja major motion picture flippin my remote / same way i do them hoes / but she already know before she touch my chevy door / real n**** let me make it as clear as my windows / no squares shall enter in the circle of winners / no im prepared for whatev if you know what i been through / rear view clear vision memories of paid dues

have rosé, chandon, oj in my glass / mimosa testerossa program cold ??? curriculum / doors open like a pendulum, swingin / rockin my jetset emblems / foolish to serve ilke Wimbledon / interior cinnamon / the car that im sittin in / calm my bad nerves, i call her my ritalin

are ppl really spending the same amount of money on the mixtapes that they are on the albums? that is the key q that tells you whether the artist takes the mixtapes as seriously as he takes the albums. of course that's auteurism -- you can say, how seriously the artist takes it doesn't matter -- but I'm not persuaded that the inverse of auteurism is as triumphant as its proponents tend to think

is that saying 'the mixtapes were better' is not the kind of strategic 'i was down when he was underground' type positioning that it used to be. that 'the mixtapes' now are the catalog, and anyone engaging with rap seriously should know 'the mixtapes.' no one should be 'waiting around for the album.' it just doesnt make sense. these 'mixtapes' are straight-up full albums.

admittedly this is a problem for me and the reason that i can't pay 100% attention to rap--i really don't listen to much music that i can't get a physical release of.

thing is, with the major label system as fucked as it is, barely releasing any major label rap albums at all, the mixtape circuit is often the ONLY outlet a lot of rappers have to release material until they have an established fanbase that the labels can exploit. unless someone has a breakout hit, it usually takes YEARS for this to happen, and often times by the time a major comes calling, they've already released their best work.

^^^ yeah how many major label rap LPs even exist this year? kanye, waka, gucci, drake, cudi, minaj ....?

ross

last physical release i bought not counting when i had a gift certificate was the portishead joint u_u

I think I got 200 bones worth of mailorder thru the slot today lol I'm old/kvlt

i keep telling myself to engage with rap more seriously. it has been sitting at the top of my to do list for the longest time and i just keep ignoring it and doing the easier things underneath instead like 'buy milk' and 'SB deej'. it is just making me feel bad about myself now. i am gonna do it. tomorrow. serious. serious about rap.

i got to a point where i realized i couldn't afford my cd habit.

buy some rap r s!

it's fun

i keep telling myself to engage with rap more seriously. it has been sitting at the top of my to do list for the longest time and i just keep ignoring it and doing the easier things underneath instead like 'buy milk' and 'SB deej'. it is just making me feel bad about myself now. i am gonna do it. tomorrow. serious. serious about rap.

― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, November 24, 2010 6:55 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

its ok we dont want you listening to rap

dude

what's really funny/sad about that is deej is 100% serious about how stoked he would be if rap were a club where only deej & ppl deej thinks are cool could join

i dunno i want other ppl but not ppl who are clowning me / sbing me for suggesting they take mixtapes seriously?

like, i dunno guys, i think he mayyyy have been trolling!! is robert spirelli a dude who would even be posting in this thread if the first album wasnt a pfork bnm

because I like you as a person I want to try to explain to you why your whole stance here is platinum-level assholism but I know from experience you're incapable of understanding that :(

yeah but you realize "we dont want you listening to rap" sounds like an awful statement regardless right

like just think of it this way: on my worst day on a politics thread, I'm exactly as bad as you are about this kinda shit

yeah but you realize "we dont want you listening to rap" sounds like an awful statement regardless right

― questeon the answers (call all destroyer), Wednesday, November 24, 2010 7:22 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dudes. hes trolling.

thus the word "regardless"

i mean i just wrote an extended essay basically on why curren$y is dope & you should check his mixtapes & dudes just posting sarcastically about taking rap seriously ... but im the asshole for telling him to fuck off?

yes.

the essay part was great don't get me wrong but the snide shit is just so tragic

hey yall, i am in the burn ward, reading rap reviews on pfork. please come by and say hi. smuggle in some kfc.

deej, i am not trolling, i 100% sincerely think you are frequently an unbearable asshole when you post about rap and "anyone engaging with rap seriously should know 'the mixtapes'" is just such a beautiful illustration of that it is almost self-parody.

no, its the truth, because otherwise youre stuck with the 7 major label rap records released this year. i dont give a shit if u think im an asshole for thinking there are more than 7 good rap records & that thinking u should actually listen to what the genre is producing is, like, a basic part of caring about rap

But deej has a point, too, one I more or less agree with.

i agree with deej but his response just smacks of the type of exclusionary garbage that i despise on every level

hey guys, i was responding to trolling! read spiralli's post again. i dont post that shit if, like, dan perry shows up & asks why we like flockaveli, or if aerosmith asks about curren$y. i do post it when a dude is being a dbag

lol do u guys think deej heard [CONTROVERSIAL MODERATOR EDIT please don't do that ilxor] before aerosmith y/n

Mixtapes and albums are the same exact thing. They're both folders of mp3s that you get on google

brb, logging out to log back in w/6 other logins for sbanning ilxor. how many times must you drag that shit in from nowhere, dude?

confidential to ilxor: name dropping =/= funny joke

ty deej, we may scrap but you play straight & I appreciate it

smgdh @ ilxor--dude are you incapable of learning

"anyone engaging with rap seriously should know 'the mixtapes'" is just such a beautiful illustration of that it is almost self-parody.

― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, November 24, 2010

no it really isn't - i'm only just realizing that ppl here are "waiting for the album". u shouldn't do that anymore - the game has changed and you really have to consider mixtapes with original beats as as worth checking out as anything else.

i don't mean that with regard to "taking rap seriously" - just as a casual listener u shld regard the two types of release as having equal potential reward

i know deej is insufferable itt and kvlty elsewhere, but tbf he was bemused that pilot talk was a big deal when "dude went from nu-nas to 'i think wiz is better' over the course of one album :-/" and backed that up with utubes for u guys of what he thought currensy was capable of. pilot talk didn't interest me but what i've heard from pilot talk 2 is back to that niceness.

I would have thought that mixtapes have been pretty well absorbed into the casual observer's notion of current rap in 2010. To use the strawman example pitchfork has been writing about mixtapes for ages.

I think these days we're often just a little too quick to be proud of not getting our heads around the logic of how particulars operate as genres (including how they generate product) on the grounds of being anti elitism and gatekeeperism. Those things exist, sure, but in an environment where there is no substantial barrier to getting with the genre on its own terms (because the mixtapes are as practically accessible as the albums) the charge of elitism in that context is pretty hollowed out.

wtf is 'kvlty'

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=kvlt

lol @ the idea that i would even assume that would be something i could google!

deej, with that charge i was thinking in particular of your insistence that ppl acquire and process - or, preferably, already own - the 213 hours of music that constitutes quik's career rather than download a 1:30 hr tape judiciously sampling it. for me it's a more natural impulse to turn ppl onto stuff rather than imagine myself king of a rare & secret(e) fiefdom so i favor the more accessible option.

i still kinda think everyone would be better off w/ the 213 hours of quik's career tbh

wheres rev at to back me up on this

ur basically sating "fuck off newjack" tho, which rev would never say. rev would, and did, say "start with rythym-al-ism".

im sure ive said that!

i just have trouble deciding what one is best to start w/ so i end up throwing up my hands & saying 'everything'

well that's fair enough, obv.

i give deej shit all the time but a tossed off comment of "we don't want you to listen to rap" is a pretty acceptable & i don't think serious response to spiralli -- who never posts in rap threads -- coming in to say that he has "sb deej" at the top of his to do list -- i mean an asshole comment to match an asshole comment -- why is everyone jumping down deej's throat

because there were a million better ways to tell spiralli to fuck off than

"we don't want you to listen to rap"

which i just hate hate hate on a really visceral level

i mean it's really, really not a big deal--i know deej's name is permanently surrounded by drudgesirens these days--but we should all just stop talking about this tbh. it's the night before thanksgiving and i'm drinking alone, i just want everyone to love each other.

except ilxor who was the actual dick itt

i 100% sincerely think you are frequently an unbearable asshole when you post about rap and "anyone engaging with rap seriously should know 'the mixtapes'" is just such a beautiful illustration of that it is almost self-parody.

― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, November 24, 2010 7:33 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

these two things are separate -- deej CAN be an unbearable asshole when he posts about rap but he's not always, and after his "i told you so" nonsense itt he posted a long post about why he digs pilot talk 2 -- legit jumping point for discussion & the kinda post that we want/need

i know that not everyone can sit around all day listening to mixtapes like most of the goons, but, like, mixtapes play a much bigger role when it comes to modern rap than albums. it's not even close. there is no gate keeping being done here where you have to show off your currensy or waka mixtapes punch card, but those of us that do listen to those tapes are gonna come in these threads & talk about those tapes, cuz it's always gonna be relevant. this is underground cliquey crap. rap in 2010 = mixtapes, songs only on youtube, songs only on hulkshare etc. it's not an asshole thing.

& deej is right about how he approached dan in the waka thread & john in this thread -- he's more of a dick to goons that aren't paying attention

deej's comment was totally innocuous & just shit being shot back at shit -- deej is rhapsodic about the rap that he loves

lol

this is NOT underground cliquey crap

i still kinda think everyone would be better off w/ the 213 hours of quik's career tbh

wheres rev at to back me up on this

― challop and a muff (deej), Wednesday, November 24, 2010 6:41 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ur basically sating "fuck off newjack" tho, which rev would never say. rev would, and did, say "start with rythym-al-ism".

― zvookster, Wednesday, November 24, 2010 6:45 PM Bookmark

both these posts otm :D

okay yeah sorry aero, my bad, was obv. meant to be a deej zing and not aimed @ u

WHOA that shit was mod edited? fuck me sideways

anyway. back on topic. J0rdan OTM, deej is not rly outta line in this thread at all, i havent heard any of the mixtapes but deej's energy is kinda infectious & makes me want to hear em. love pilot talk 1 & waiting on 2 to arrive.

also: feeling rly left out b/c apparently rap in 2010 = mixtapes, blogs, youtube and here i am just buying CDs as usual ;_;

beat on 'fashionably late' is classic like reasonable doubt ski shit

i personally am kind of an albums guy and am not that big on picking through individual songs on blogs, youtube, etc. but mixtapes really are basically albums now and it's basically as easy to follow which big/good mixtapes are out as w/ official albums now, the whole thing is that it's not this dense inaccessible hardcore fan only scene it used to be.

sorry for overusing "basically"

"The mixtapes were better" is also pretty much a truism now, right?

Like, would it even make sense to consider the careers - even the commercial success - of Lil' Wayne, Gucci Mane, Nikki Minaj (to name three examples that to me seem particularly prominent) based just on their official studio albums?

beat on 'fashionably late' is classic like reasonable doubt ski shit

Okay need to hear this now.

Like, would it even make sense to consider the careers - even the commercial success - of Lil' Wayne, Gucci Mane, Nikki Minaj (to name three examples that to me seem particularly prominent) based just on their official studio albums?

no, of course not -- it would be like judging a piece of art only by the frame

i love tha carter ii & iii and the state vs. radric davis, haven't heard more than a handful of tracks from dedication 2 or da drought 3 or burrprint 3d, which i'll check out on youtube if i am pointed in that direction but otherwise don't really seek out. too much music out there for me to NEED to hear every "good" mixtape track that wayne's ever done; i'm satisfied with a couple statements that he feels justified putting out to the wider public.

sad? maybe, but it works alright for me

this reminds me i need to dl those lil wayne sqad up mixtapes

dling pt2 now

listening to higher than 30k while i wait

i love tha carter ii & iii and the state vs. radric davis, haven't heard more than a handful of tracks from dedication 2 or da drought 3 or burrprint 3d, which i'll check out on youtube if i am pointed in that direction but otherwise don't really seek out. too much music out there for me to NEED to hear every "good" mixtape track that wayne's ever done; i'm satisfied with a couple statements that he feels justified putting out to the wider public.

You don't NEED to hear anything, but given the mixtapes you listed there are all widely considered to be better* than their attendant studio albums, the fact that you'd bother to check the studio albums but not the mixtapes seems pretty arbitrary.

Like, I get not automatically checking every mixtape an artist puts out, but when some of them are in effect studio albums which possibly even the artist would admit are better than the album that just happens to get officially pushed by a major label, then disregarding them seems obstinate, the equivalent of thinking that, say, 3d animation is for kids.

* as always, insert caveat for Lil Wayne w/r/t carter II, shifts in style etc.

the equivalent of thinking that, say, 3d animation is for kids.

wouldn't say it's this kinda thing. more like, i've never bothered with any file-sharing or downloading, i tend to like artifacts, things i can curate and put on a shelf and then pull out at various times to reevaluate and hear again. so i've heard tracks here and there from the mixtapes. but once i leave youtube, i don't make an effort to download the full things and store 'em on my hard drive. not really the sins of the artist, more like i pay more attention to what's on physical format because it's what i've always done. maybe i'm old fashioned.

<3 dude rapping about nice & smooth over the "next movement" beat

well youre missing out then, your bad xp

"michael knight" has the most hilarious hook ever

and yeah, some of the raps on this are like o_O

seriously!

"michael knight" has the most hilarious hook ever

― princess tamtam swag (The Reverend), Thursday, November 25, 2010 2:28 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark

Yes, it's hilarious that Curren$y turns Michael Knight into a catchphrase, but it's really no different than Swizzy yelling "Oh you fancy huh?" a dozen times in a row. And I'm randomly breaking out into MICHAEL KNIGHT! MICHAEL KNIGHT! all the time. And Raekwon kills the remix.

The only bad song is "Silence" wtf is that shit. McKenzie Eddy is the worst. And the beat is jarring too after all that smooth shit.

Interrupts the high.

co-sign, "Silence" is the only dud on an album that jams so hard

I fux with these young roddy and trademark dudes. More of them, less dom Kennedy and mckenzie whatever would have been good. I skip those two tracks

"famous" is extremely dope

If he really listens to Primus he might be the coolest person in the world

Know how it's obvious that PT2 is better than PT1? Better album art.

co-sign, "Silence" is the only dud on an album that jams so hard

― the tune is space, Thursday, November 25, 2010 1:29 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

forget if i said this but yeah 100% this song makes no sense. its tonally like ... "Renegade" or something! such an odd song to put in the middle of breezy stoner jams

Yes, it's hilarious that Curren$y turns Michael Knight into a catchphrase, but it's really no different than Swizzy yelling "Oh you fancy huh?" a dozen times in a row. And I'm randomly breaking out into MICHAEL KNIGHT! MICHAEL KNIGHT! all the time. And Raekwon kills the remix.

― altered boners (rennavate), Thursday, November 25, 2010 11:18 AM Bookmark

*SKEW-dododododododo*

lol i love the SKEW-dododododododo

went crazy and dl'd a bunch of these mixtapes over the holiday (Higher Than 30K, Smokee Robinson, and How Fly). good stuff.

what's the beat with the piano and hard snaps on "Lemon Kush" from Smokee Robinson? (also used for "Orange Juice" on OFWGKTA's Radical)

I should probably know it but can't come up with it

Gucci mane - "lemonade" prob

Pilot talk 2 really is drastically better than the first

yup that's it. damn could swear I've listened to that track before. I don't have that Gucci album tho.

gotta recommend "this aint no mixtape"

& yeah lemon kush is a 'freestyle' over gucci's lemonade

what's some other Wiz Khalifa to check for

could read the thread I guess but this is faster

kush & oj mixtape

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enjambment

^^^relevent read imo

relavent, durr

i was right the first time :(

both wrong actually lol

arrrghgh

holy shit does he call out "garbage bag" rappers?

and yeah, this is great on first blush; certainly as good as pt. 1 if not better

yeah i had to go back and pray to god i heard "grocery bag" but alas

still

xp

It's "garbage bag rappers."

yeah, there was a weird too much time on ilx moment where I almost turned to the guy next to me on the train and said "HE MEANT GROCERY BAG!"

I thought he said grocery bag, too, at first listen. I was disappointed when it was just garbage bag; I was totally going to talk about the line in my review if it was in fact garbage bag.

haha u guys are dorks

"Curren$y reads ILX!!!"

I read in Maura's worst-20 list that Kanye calls it "hashtag rap" (uugghh)

it's still grocery bag to me *~sings to the tune of billy joel~*

don't think it's too far of a stretch to suggest that more than one person would also center on "grocery bag" as the outstanding offender in that style

i can totally picture Curren$y listening to "Bedrock" and just being horrified at what he was almost a part of

hahaha

I could also see drake laughing his ass off at currensy

why

Because he is now the biggest star in rap and currensy is....not? Im sure he's not losing sleep over the direction young money took

Well I can't actually SEE it...it's kinda strange to imagine two layers of imaginary actions by people I don't even know

let's just forget it

haha I have been calling them "garbage bag" lines and did the same double take on hearing that line.

haha u guys are dorks

― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Wednesday, December 1, 2010 12:38 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

board descrip imo

yeah, there was a weird too much time on ilx moment where I almost turned to the guy next to me on the train and said "HE MEANT GROCERY BAG!"

― old LOKO heads (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, December 1, 2010 12:28 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

imagining a forks wearing headphones on the train and turning to old ass man and yelling these words at him is making me lose my shit

board descrip imo

this one might work too! -->

imagine two layers of imaginary actions by people I don't even know

My review of PT2: http://passionweiss.com/2010/12/02/the-curreny-boom/

nice review altho im not sure wiz is really that much more popular, billboard hit or no

I don't think he's that much more popular either, but he has more commercial appeal than Curren$y does, let's just be honest here. Spitta's not the kind of rapper to make a "Say Yeah" or even "Black and Yellow."

i think he is guys

curren$y is not selling out colleges

he easily could be

i dunno, i hear people talk about wiz much more than curren$y irl, even before "black and yellow" (which is huge here) hit.

And planning/had planned a tour with Drake.

i think the highest potential pop level of recognition for curren$y given his style and history is right around devin the dude levels, but what do i know maybe he lands a mainstream hit sooner or later

on last fm wiz has 464k listeners, whereas currensy has only 286k

the reason ppl even know wiz is cuz curren$y put him on, and ppl know curren$y cus of wayne. basically their audience is the lil wayne post-carter ii mixtape fans. its a huge fanbase.

Sure, but while Curren$y might be Devin the Dude, Wiz could be fucking Redman.

A Redman who could write pop songs.

on last fm wiz has 464k listeners, whereas currensy has only 286k

― The Reverend, Friday, December 3, 2010 4:19 PM (5 seconds ago) Bookmark

internet bias + black & yellow distorts things. (if wiz is more popular, its entirely on the basis of that single, which isnt why hes selling out colleges)

also curren$y is way more popular than devin

A Redman who could write pop songs.

― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:20 PM (47 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wtf

Wiz could be fucking Redman
images i didn't need

Yeah, did anyone give a fuck about his last three albums? (Devin's.) Not really.

i did.
curren$y is more popular than devin where and under what standards exactly? live shows? record sales? industry respect? among weedsmokers in the all important 19-34 demographic? on your blog?

i mean it in the traditional sense, that more people listen to him.

i don't really think currensy cares about having a hit, which is what is holding him back from becoming any more popular than he already is

xps a) i don't think internet bias means anything when comparing two artists means anything and b) of course having a hit gives wiz an edge. duh. that's my point.

Yeah I honestly don't see Curren$y ever having a hit. He's just not that guy.

fyi devin the ilx bubble artist in this case. he has some mild critical acclaim and older heads know him. but its a decreasing slice of old head rap fans. curren$y is a contemporary rap star w/ a broad fanbase. he has recorded w/ regional underground artists across the country, from j stalin to french montana

i agree that wiz has a higher ceiling -- dont understate sex appeal also

this popularity question is not even a thing -- deej you're just wrong

i just think curren$y is a lot more popular than yall realize

whether or not curren$y put him on is irrelevant as well

okay give us something quantifiable then since you're saying that wiz's hit single & touring is apparently irrelevant to the question

im not wrong that curren$y could easily sell out colleges, or that the entire crowd at the wiz show i saw knew exactly who curren$y was & whent nuts when the dj dropped his tracks.

yeesh i conceded that wiz may have recently surpassed him, but it would be entirely on the basis of that single alone. as i said tho, curren$y is far more popular than u guys think

and ive given you 'quantifiable' reasons why

i don't agree with "mild critical acclaim" or even that curren$y is a star as of yet and it's not like devin hasn't already and isn't continuing to record with a shitton of regional guys but okay

in what ways would curren$y even begin to approach the word "star"

Does "Say Yeah" count as a minor hit? Reached 20 on Hot Rap Tracks on Billboard and 96 on Pop 100.

I mean I think what I said in my review is totally fair.

they are definitely in the same ballpark, but wiz's appeal is broader.

in what ways would curren$y even begin to approach the word "star"

― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:31 PM (58 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

he was on young money & tons & tons of rap fans know who he is? lil wayne put him on at the height of his popularity? hes been recording tracks coast to coast w/ artists from virtually every regional scene?

and both are more popular than devin thd dude, not sure why he was even brought into this

wiz & him have done joint cds together so theres a massive audience overlap

also he had a minor hit of his own with "where the cash at"

i don't think, right now, curren$y could sell out a 600 sro space in nyc with a 25 cover. maybe with wiz? maybe not. and if he could, it would totally be because of black and yellow
i mean i know that's nyc but still.

i mean, that's kinda the standards i go by.

lol deej you're definition of star is broad as fuck

forks i'm willing to bet that wiz has already done that

your*

I don't think it would be JUST because of "Black and Yellow," I know people who know every fucking song Wiz has done.

i dont know the deal w/ venue sizes but im sure curren$y would sell out the metro in chicago just as easily as wiz did

I don't think it would be JUST because of "Black and Yellow," I know people who know every fucking song Wiz has done.

― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:36 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

obvi at this point we're slicing up some pretty thin hairs here, but i think curren$y has the exact same success in terms of being seen as an 'album artist'

deej isn't right that he's more popular than wiz, but he is right that curren$y is more popular than you guys are giving him credit for

Who's not saying Curren$y is popular tho?

lol there is no slicing of hairs when talking about "black & yellow" -- shit is a major hit

I don't think anyone is saying that.

lol deej you're definition of star is broad as fuck

― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:36 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

maybe. i mean, i certainly think national rap fame qualifies as 'star' but its easy to define star in a way that excludes wiz too. i dont feel like there are many fans out there who know/love wiz but dont know curren$y

lol there is no slicing of hairs when talking about "black & yellow" -- shit is a major hit

― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:38 PM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

thats not what i was slicing hairs about?

i dont think i said hes more popular than wiz either

i mean look - if these dudes are memorizing wiz lyrics surely they have the countless tracks where wiz & curren$y record together & tag-team verses? do they really think hes 'just some guy'?

i concede that, if you just know black n yellow, you may not know currensy

but i think curren$y has the exact same success in terms of being seen as an 'album artist'

― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:37 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

this is only mildly true, but wrt this argument, wiz's mixtapes built a fanbase that made it possible to make a hit like "black & yellow" -- curren$y is an actual album artist in that he'll never have a 'hit single'

i dont feel like there are many fans out there who know/love wiz but dont know curren$y

― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, December 3, 2010 2:39 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah, but his audience is starting to expand beyond just rap fans whereas currensy's is not.

so their success as 'album artists' is not exact

Sometimes I feel like "album artist" is a euphemism for "can't write a hit."

this is only mildly true, but wrt this argument, wiz's mixtapes built a fanbase that made it possible to make a hit like "black & yellow" -- curren$y is an actual album artist in that he'll never have a 'hit single'

― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:41 PM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

curren$y's mixtapes built that exact same fanbase!! this is what im saying.

xp i agree rev

this argument is what happens when mp3 downloading destroys the billboard chart popularity representations :(

Sometimes I feel like "album artist" is a euphemism for "can't write a hit."

― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:42 PM (10 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

no? its for 'fans memorize more songs than the singles' -- wiz is an 'album artist' too, to his fans

this is only mildly true, but wrt this argument, wiz's mixtapes built a fanbase that made it possible to make a hit like "black & yellow" -- curren$y is an actual album artist in that he'll never have a 'hit single'

― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 2:41 PM Bookmark

There's nothing stopping him from having hit singles other than his lack of ambition to do so. Like I said before, he already had a minor hit anyway.

like, as minor a hit as you can literally have

I don't mean in this instance, deej, just sometimes.

like, as minor a hit as you can literally have

― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 3:43 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark

Still more than Curren$y.

this argument is what happens when mp3 downloading destroys the billboard chart popularity representations :(

― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, December 3, 2010 2:42 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

"black and yellow" has been doing consistently higher on the sales chart than the airplay chart tho.

southern radio was playing any old shit w/ wayne on it in 06

curren$y's mixtapes built that exact same fanbase!!

i don't see how this is true at all, but okay

anyway i concede that wiz may have finally surpassed currensy but i maintain absolutely that currensy is much more popular than you guys make him out to be & has almost the exact same fanbase, sans the pop fans who jumped on board for black & yellow. i do concede wiz has a higher ceiling of star potential

Still more than Curren$y.

― altered boners (rennavate), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:44 PM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark

no i was talking about curren$y -- wiz's hit is legit -- i think dude is gonna be like the minaj of 2011

"black and yellow" has been doing consistently higher on the sales chart than the airplay chart tho.

― The Reverend, Friday, December 3, 2010 4:44 PM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i was talking about lp sales

i don't see how this is true at all, but okay

― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:44 PM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dude half of wiz's tapes were recorded with currensy

wiz's first appearances were probably on currensy tapes -- wiz's original fanbase migrating from currensy's, not the other way around

When did Curren$y have a sort of hit?

ren: i was talking about curren$y.

and "where the cash at" wasn't any less of a hit than "say yeah" was for wiz.

okay i just dropped a line to someone who knows who told me that wiz sold out best buy theater in nyc (about 2100)
so yeah, i'm really wrong about that apparently.
currensy did a recent ny gig and they managed about 500

first popular appearances i should say -- obvi he was rapping on local tapes before that

btw deej did touch on something that we overlooked but definitely has a ton to do w/ this and that's that wiz has sex appeal -- i think he probably has tons more female fans than curren$y has -- he has that star appeal but also a safeness about him that could appeal to a large audience

curren$y is just a dude that raps -- a dude that raps great of course, but still

forks evidence is what i'm talking about

Nipsey Hussle with Curren$y ... Fri, Dec 3 Roseland Theater, Portland ...
Curren$y and Nipsey Hussle ... Wed, Dec 8 El Rey Theatre, Los Angeles ...
Curren$y at Rialto Theatre Fri, Dec 10 Rialto Theatre, Tucson, AZ, US

whats the size on these venues

how many seats does the metro in chicago have

yeah, chicks dig wiz for sure

was that 2100 show after black and yellow hit

chicks dig both ime

i didn't want to bring up my anecdote cuz i don't find anecdotes to be particularly useful in these types of arguments (cuz it brings us into 'my world of young people' stuff) but wiz sold out the biggest venue in my school in like less than a week LAST SEMESTER & when i went to the facebook events page all the comments were "omg!!!" type shit from girls

ill give a pass on the LA show for including nipsey

wiz did a fairly good size sold out show in portland at the beginning of september (before black and yellow took off).

el rey has a capacity of 700

the wiz show at nokia was november 13 so yeah.

and it was sold out like a week before the show.

er, best buy i mean. they changed names.

this is sort of an abstract point, but wiz found it profitable & sensible enough to turn down a spot opening for drake's tour -- i think that speaks to the size & strength of his fanbase right now

i didn't want to bring up my anecdote cuz i don't find anecdotes to be particularly useful in these types of arguments (cuz it brings us into 'my world of young people' stuff) but wiz sold out the biggest venue in my school in like less than a week LAST SEMESTER & when i went to the facebook events page all the comments were "omg!!!" type shit from girls

― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:49 PM (16 seconds ago) Bookmark

um theres nothing wrong with 'in my world of young people' and i dont understand what you're actually criticizing about it, because youre bringing it up for the same reason i was ... its an effective way of explaining to ppl how things are outside the ilx bubble?? if one of you would like to break down the fallacy of 'in my world of young ppl' id appreciate it though.

the only explanation i see is 'whiney is insecure'

I want Wiz to come up here.

I think that's a very good point, J0rdan.

i pushed hard for $ummer$tage to book wiz and curren$y and we likely coulda got em right around the time they were really starting to pop too...

um theres nothing wrong with 'in my world of young people' and i dont understand what you're actually criticizing about it, because youre bringing it up for the same reason i was ... its an effective way of explaining to ppl how things are outside the ilx bubble?? if one of you would like to break down the fallacy of 'in my world of young ppl' id appreciate it though.

i don't like 'in my word of young ppl' arguments because theoretically i could make any shit up about my world of young ppl to support my argument & no one could actually verify it's truthfulness -- also sample sizes

sold out wiz show in portland: sept. 10th, 1480 capacity

i only brought up my wiz anecdote because it supported forks hard numbers

or rather, it was supported by forks hard numbers

no perspective but our own perspective, y'know? I'm not trying to cop like i have DEEP KNOWLEDGE from working in the field. Anecdotal quickly turns into fait accompli especially when you hear it often enough.

i don't like 'in my word of young ppl' arguments because theoretically i could make any shit up about my world of young ppl to support my argument & no one could actually verify it's truthfulness -- also sample sizes

― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 3, 2010 4:53 PM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

right, it relies on us trusting that the other person isnt being disingenuous, and i would trust most of you dudes to explain honest anecdotes. its one thing to use it statistically, as if it represents broad popularity, but if you're just using it as supporting evidence that ilx =/= the world i dont see any problem with it

(tho to be fair, i really do have DEEP KNOWLEDGE from working in the field)

but my anecdotal, and jordan's, was used to imply there is truth outside of received wisdom, not to create more received wisdom. its about critique, not creation of myth

Jo$eph Campbell - The Hero with A Thousand Big Faces

imo, ppl bringing their own real world perspectives to these discussions is valuable & necessary, not something to be avoided, and its too bad that al's cattiness made ppl think there's something wrong with it

yeah i'm not saying that i'm wary of ppl making up fake arguments -- it's more of a "anecdotes are like assholes..." thing

ive never furthered an argument that claimed my personal experience was universal

at least, since high school

anyway im interested in wiz's concert bookings from a year ago prior to bny

wiz sold out the 835 capacity venue here last may in less than a week

xp well, i can actually help you there.
last nov he sold out 800+ nyc but it was on a bill with a lotta other folks.

haha holy shit at this long drawn out convo about who's more popular. Wiz totally is -- was before "Black & Yellow" dropped but that definitely has widened the gap a bit

and i say that as someone who doesn't actively check for either of them but hears about them both a lot

deej has a point about his unexpected popularity though: two editors at the student paper (one of whom is a white Colombian kid lol) were shocked that I knew about Curren$y. They'd loved his mixtapes for months.

You're a music critic, Al, that's hardly representative of the average rap fan. And they're writers of the student paper, thus much more likely to know this kind of stuff, too.

I should have said: these guys do not really follow music at all except for hip-hop. The Colombian dude is -- heh -- recording an EP over the break.

alfred, wiz is playing a free show outside at UM tonight. you think you can get us a headcount?

herby colombian white

haha holy shit at this long drawn out convo about who's more popular. Wiz totally is -- was before "Black & Yellow" dropped but that definitely has widened the gap a bit

― My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro) (some dude), Friday, December 3, 2010 5:01 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

what are u basing it on? i agree after bny that wiz pulled ahead (& the numbers bear this out obv)

i still think curren$y is about as popular as one can possibly get while still being 'underground'

i think his national appeal should also not be underestimated -- hes decidedly not a regional artist

& finally, any crowd that jumped on wiz for 'say yeah' has to be minute at best -- he doesnt even play that at his shows now, and when he says "im about to take it back!!!" he still performs songs that came out after "say yeah"

i still think curren$y is about as popular as one can possibly get while still being 'underground'

― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, December 3, 2010 6:56 PM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark

isn't tech n9ne the standard bearer for this? curren$y isn't going platinum any time soon

i don't think anyone cares about "say yeah" but us

altho maybe he thinks it's corny

"say yeah" got some (not much) airplay here

alfred, wiz is playing a free show outside at UM tonight. you think you can get us a headcount?

why would I when I can get laid?

take one for the team

curren$y isn't going platinum any time soon

how many rappers are?

tech n9ne apparently!

what??

The album sold 17,000 copies in its first week and 5,000 copies during its second. Record sales reached upwards of 22,000 copies in only 2 weeks.

thats techn9ne's last record

lol @ "only"

take one for the team

Thirteen years and counting

The album debuted at number 14 on the Billboard 200 selling 30,326 copies in its first week.[9]

thats his 09 record

n/m i got confused -- tech n9ne scanned his millionth album w/ 'killer'

i thought the whole album went platinum independently

regardless, talking about billboard numbers is grade-A stupid & pointless in this debate.

that's the problem tho w/ these arguments is that if we can't rely on what little quantitative numbers that we have, it's just one person's word vs the other's & it's hard to find the opposite argument to be legitimate

btw i'm not sticking by the thing about tech n9ne being more popular than curren$y

haha holy shit at this long drawn out convo about who's more popular. Wiz totally is -- was before "Black & Yellow" dropped but that definitely has widened the gap a bit

― My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro) (some dude), Friday, December 3, 2010 5:01 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

what are u basing it on? i agree after bny that wiz pulled ahead (& the numbers bear this out obv)

i still think curren$y is about as popular as one can possibly get while still being 'underground'

― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, December 3, 2010 7:56 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i'm basing it on how much i hear about Wiz from rap guys i know IRL or on twitter, how often he does big sold out shows in the area, other stuff like Wiz being on the official remix to a huge Trey Songz single even before "Black & Yellow" was even out. Wiz & Curren$y are definitely both pretty popular together and individually but it feels very clear whose mainstream profile is higher.

i dunno i think this debate has actually fleshed out a better idea of how popular these dudes are, i feel 'more informed' having participated

me too, just saying

i wonder why curren$y isn't touring -- obvi if wiz keeps up a consistent tour schedule thats going to affect things too

i think wiz is probably also easier to rap along with

i mean, curren$y is touring, but why he isnt doing wiz-style national touring

i mean hes gotta be bigger then effin nipsey hussle

yeah probably

should have a x < y < z < a < b < c argument about which middleweight rappers are more popular than others

we haven't incorporated youtube views into this debate yet lol

i wonder why curren$y isn't touring -- obvi if wiz keeps up a consistent tour schedule thats going to affect things too

i think wiz is probably also easier to rap along with

― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Friday, December 3, 2010 6:07 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yes, entirely. This is a big part of his appeal vs Curren$y. Doesn't make him a better rapper, but it counts for a lot.

but yeah, wiz has been touring like crazy

the wiz/curren$y mix was my favorite of the curren$y mixtapes but I tried Kush & OJ and couldn't get with a whole mix of just wiz. it was alright just ... too much I guess. their styles go good together imo.

^^^i mostly agree although this is one of the best songs to drop this year imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZwdyt_MA7s

wiz's twitter avatar is hella endearing

http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1184951409/WIZ-KHALIZAx-WAKEN-BAKEN-TOUR-2010-x-Best-Buy-Theatre-NYC-x-via-Ernest-Estim_-10.21.10.-Image-Copywritten-All-Rights-Reserved-2010.-Use-Without-Proper-Permission-Prohibited.-www.ernestestime.com-www.ernestestime.comcolumn046.jpg

hater commentators, call em pat buchanans

^^^had that line stuck in my head all day

that's awesome

maybe that's an xpost to ppl only mentioned in one rap song ever i dunno

i would investigate the full catalog of wyclef jean before i pounded the gavel on that one

lol

only result ohhla throws up is by 'danny!' but i will continue blissfully ignoring his existance

as i just posted on the other thread, it's a big krit line, not currensy. i remembered wrong.

that sounds more likely

is there a rule that says every curren$y video must contain a shot of him driving past the superdome?

I really liked the first Pilot Talk but damn, Pilot Talk II is an improvement on all levels.

I liked the smooth production, but if there was a 'fault' at all with Pilot Talk, it's that sometimes the production was too relaxing and made me almost tune out the rapping. I think this feels more like a proper hip-hop album overall.

Curren$y brings a lot of tude too. "Fuck yo system, I get paid without it"....

otm

think i'm maybe the only person who likes pilot talk pt1 better?

both are great though!

i think i'm just more of a beats >>>> rhymes guy

but that's why I prefer the second one

http://teslastaging.com/forums/images/smilies/Gestures/userArmsCrossed.gif

the track "elevator music" is better than any track on either pilot talk tho

the non-album single he did w/ fiend was the best thing he did all year

I would probably agree with that if Fiend wasn't on it, don't like his verse... that beat is amazing tho.

I really like "Montreux" off of PT2, has a similar vibe to "Flying Iron". Also "Fashionably Late"

i play that track with killa kyleon a lot, "4 hours 20 minutes". scrunch up yr face.

i think i like PT1 a little better. not by much tho. to my mind each enhances the other, like halves of a double album...the sharper caffeinated "proper hip hop album" foregrounding curren$y's lyrics versus the hazy expansive potluck with more emphasis on beats

i think i'm just more of a beats >>>> rhymes guy

― gr8080, Tuesday, December 28, 2010 9:15 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i dont think the sound of his voice even works w/ some of those beats on the 1st one tho

i dont think the beats are better on the 1st one -- certainly not for curren$y -- but i think there's def a lot more diversity in sounds which might be whats roping you dudes in?

well i'm always interested in what deej thinks, especially abt rap music so

glad i could be of service bro! ill mention this again on gchat as well

; )

yeah, the diversity of sounds is def one of the things I like about pt1. the more focused production on pt2 may play more directly to curren$y's strengths, but the album feels a little more narrow as a result. just a little tho. i like em both!

i feel like there's one amazing album to be made from the two of these and that's the one i'm listening to and calling pilot talk

First one has some great beats and great moments, but PT2 is so consistent and cohesive, definitely in the upper reaches of my albums of the year list.
BTW, I'm listening to the new Destroyer right now and thinking that PT2 is like a rap version of Kaputt - similar musical aesthetic. and yes, I just smoked.

i think there's def a lot more diversity in sounds which might be whats roping you dudes in?

― lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Tuesday, December 28, 2010 8:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

I think it's this exactly. There's some fantastic beats on the PT1, but the ones on PT2 suit Curren$y consistently better.

the non-album single he did w/ fiend was the best thing he did all year

i jsut watched this video for the first time...fiend looks like he's been living pretty well

thoughts on the new mixtape? halfway thru, digging it so far. i like the song where he raps about watching boardwalk empire.

yeah im feeling this for sure

what exactly is on the Ski Beats album I saw in the store today...

its a weird record cuz mos def got removed last minuet

i love how dude is a total rap nerd ... he drops so many references & has a pretty great / diverse selection of beats-from-rap-history & different styles ...

'on..' coming after the midrange-heavy rza beat on 'rain delay' is relieving

also, lol,

2-door listenin to dizzee rascal
right up ya avenue
fly as a parachute, high as a paratroop-er

holdin it down im a paper weight

'frost' is nuts & shits all over corny-ass 'cleverness' like 'the square root of 69 is 8 somethin ... im trynna work it out' type bullshit

yep

i really like how he sometimes lets the beats ride out for way after he's finished rapping. he's definitely a guy who has a strong relationship with the beats he chooses; deej otm calling him being a rap nerd. sucks that other songs get cut short mid bar tho

http://cdn.2dopeboyz.com/m.php/2011/01/20110101-WINNER1.jpg

dope artwork

yeah, dude has probably the strongest aesthetic of any rapper that i can think of right now.

i love how dude is a total rap nerd ... he drops so many references & has a pretty great / diverse selection of beats-from-rap-history & different styles ...

― lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej)

total rap nerd loving another total rap nerd shocka

yes

ha. as an aging rawkus nerd, i really appreciate curren$y's ongoing nerdy shouts to mos def -- the respiration quote on 'fashionably late,' "the potency of the beat is consistent with the fact that mos did it"...

i don't think shouting out your producer gets to count as nerdy. ("resperation" quote, sure)

haha yeah ok. still feel like there might inherently be something a little nerdy about working with mos def to begin with. (i mean this as a compliment!)

yeah.

the new tape isn't really doing much for me. it seems like spitta isn't very.....present, i guess, on it.

the rapping just kinda recedes into the background

am I the only who sees m white posts and my brain starts going "MICHAEL WHITE! MICHAEL WHITE MICHAEL WHITE! *skewdodododododo*" now?

i wasn't but now i will be

haha I was doing that but I couldn't figure out why

more anecdotal currensy vs wiz: this evening I showed my sister how to use slsk and the first song she went for was "say yeah"

Will this be the first rap mixtape I ever hear?

!

re currensy as rap nerd:

ok <3 <3 <3 curren$y on mtv jams repping for masta ace and kid frost

― BIG MEECH aka the larryhoover (The Reverend), Saturday, July 17, 2010 6:54 AM Bookmark

Apparently he's got a new album coming out next week? And then Pilot Talk III in April. Dude is one productive stoner.

Apparently he also has an Alchemist-produced mixtape in the works.

curious to hear that.

he used to rap like BG way back in the day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lps5WuVjvw

really like this guy.

that verse is dope

yeah, dude has probably the strongest aesthetic of any rapper that i can think of right now.

the back-cover art of pilot talk being a weedy parody of a motivational poster that used to be in a lot of my high school classrooms was A+

or sorry not back-cover. the booklet. it was in the booklet.

Looks like Muscle Car Chronicles isn't coming out this week then? Guess i shouldn't believe everything i read on Wikipedia

#

If you are watching this just to see Curren$y thumbs up.

ChickenTenderizm 2 months ago 17http://i.imgur.com/ffqQi.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n68KfymVnEc

Ha, dope.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jFrP1s0kzXQ/TV7ZA9_TQvI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/bZRnFI7aE6Y/s1600/Muscle-Car-Chronicles-Cover.jpg

Sweet. Looks like he's going for a different sound on this one too.
http://musicforperfectpeople.com/2011/02/11/watch-curreny-soundbombin-from-muscle-car-chronicles/

ok that cover is the greatest damn thing

Yeah dudes got a great aesthetic

sounds promising. agree about his design aesthetic

Just listening to Return to the Winners' Circle for the first time. On the all-kinds-of-rap nerd tip, dude quoting E40 and shouting out Mac Dre makes me love him even more.

someone ever post this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lps5WuVjvw

rev did in january. dope song

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhUr68tsf96LmPFdsr

while were on the nuardwar kick

nardwuar. whatever

Has anyone seen this dude live? Wondering if he plays with a band or what.

I've seen footage of him performing live w/ band, but it seems like he usually plays w/ a dj.

Bout to f/w Covert Coup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M65qOMJ0RJs

yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Yah that track is the standout for sure.

Feeling that little bass riff that Blood Sweat & Gears is built around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyIE9RxJt6A

Fiend sounds great too.

^^^yeah this track is awesome too

the fuck you said?
i ain't hear it clear
too much money talkin in my ear

I kind of forget how awesome Alchemist can be.

fiend has the best new orleans accent ever. he sounds like he hasn't left the french quarter in 70 years.

spottie, you've heard "that'll work" with 36m & juvie, right? that's the dopest joint ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F55RxHl17LE

^^^this motherfucking shit

Natch, check out my track nomms for the MICROPHONE FIEND thread :)

Such a tune that is.

I wish more full lengths played out like this EP; one producer, one emcee, a few guests and clocking in right around 30 minutes. This is great.

The tracks he leaked ahead of this are pretty much the weakest on the album.

that one up thread is yurrr

Yeah, Spitta obviously seems to care about hitting an aesthetic more than covering his bases. I've noticed 5 of the 6 albums he's recorded (Jet Files) being the exception) have been recorded mostly with one producer. xps

& from a business perspective it's also an incredibly efficient way to pump out music

well fucking awesome! i didn't even know about this ep. thanks y'all!

yeah, gonna go cop this too.

I'm pretty sure that isn't possible.

just downloaded this!

can we talk abt how alchemist kills the shit out of this

yeah it's great, that bassline mentioned upthread for blood sweat and gears w/fiend is really an amazing bit of looping, it feels a bit "off" like it shouldn't work but the way he does it works magically imo

was talking about this w /a friend earlier but am i wrong or does alchemist kinda sound better w/ C than Ski

it's a different vibe, no? With Ski he sounds more like he's constantly floating on a cloud of weed smoke. he sounds more awake here. i fucks with both though
love the hell out of what Fiend is doing at the moment, btw

This collabo is an excellent look for both dudes. Both Alch and Ski seem to work effortlessly with C$y tho, wouldn't be able to pick a 'better' fit atm.

Loving this, but isn't "the Type" like the third time spitta has made a chorus out of Big Boi lyrics? Maybe even all from Aquemini?

Yeah, that feels kinda lazy at this point, but P and Spitta on a dope Alc beat overcomes that imo

'the type'...u crazy for this one alc

love how the beat fades out and then fades back in with prodigy's booming voice

"love how the beat fades out and then fades back in with prodigy's booming voice"

Yah, excellent. Ive listened to The Type about 10 times in the last 24 hours, normally not my style.

curren$y should work with sid roams too (has this happened?)

His flow on "Smoke Break" is so crazy.

http://cdn.thefader.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/burnies.jpg

Single is called #jetsgo
http://soundcloud.com/alee860/jetsgo

'covert coupe' is so dope

Yah it's great, I like it more than first pilot talk

covert coup! scottie pippen, full metal, ftw

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/weekendatberniesxweekendatburnies

lol

this sounds so good

It does doesn't it? So chill

it's funny listening to curren$y or other rappers talk about all the purple bubblegum mist kush they smoke like it's something special anymore. my sixty eight year old aunt smokes Kush yo

Curren$y
Did we ever even figure out what squarey cubes were??? Respect tho

hahahaha that is the most otm tweet

anyone heard his drama tape yet?

this joint w/ weezy is pretty dope

http://hulkshare.com/tmc31knk4d1q

not on the tape btw even tho it has a drama drop

for real i could get down with a whole album of wayne going "and i'll still break her off like a chair leg" if he was rapping over some chill curren$y beats and letting his mind wander a bit ("yellow hearted... lemon meringue")

heh, didn't recognize this as the "elevators" beat initially \(o_O)/

damn, never saw this before. he totally kills the "hard in the paint" beat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TldUEViX36c

I think this is the best Currensy joint since "Michael Knight", supposedly off Covert Coup 2

http://www.hulkshare.com/thhn8ps1itls

Wow, The Stoned Immaculate debuted at #8. Anyone heard it yet?

Curren$y
Did we ever even figure out what squarey cubes were??? Respect tho

― dutty whiney (The Reverend), Tuesday, August 2, 2011 1:48 AM (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hahahaha that is the most otm tweet

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, August 2, 2011 1:50 AM (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dying at this

i like the new 1 a lot more than i thought i would

"squarey cubes" is like the proto-"fanute"

but that's what tip actually says. i never would've heard anything besides the actual french lyric if it hadn't been referenced multiple times on ilx.

some lyric sites have it as "not even square, he cube" -- maybe that's wrong tho idk, but it at least makes sense

ha wow my mind is blown, that probably IS what he's really saying.

yeah i looked that up when rev first that posted that currensy tweet and it was a total o_o moment for me

went to listen to The Stoned Immaculate yesterday but spotify put the clean version on my phone :/

Showroom off the new one is niiiiice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOw1CkcQ_OE
Cardo on the beat.

New Jet City is pretty nice. I really like the beat on "Choosin" despite the Wiz verse.

yeah the little flute or whatever is awesome

does this break out of his holding pattern at all?