100 Enraged, Hectoring Vocalists Seek Explosions Over Which to Deliver Apocalyptic Screeds

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this is one of my favorite music approaches ever, even when the anger is questionable. gives me goosebumps and puts exciting wind in my hair. i am thinking about it at the moment due to the "common people" thread and also the recent death of the call's michael been. plus i have been revisiting uzi's sleep asylum, which kicks serious ass in the tirade dept. it is important not only that the screed capture a quality of vitriolic apoplexy (even if understated or implied), but the the music be enormously propulsive, thrusting the rigid finger of vengeance forward through the long dark night of ignorance and squares.

1. "common people" - pulp

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 05:17 (fifteen years ago)

2. "gimme shelter" - the rolling stones

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 05:17 (fifteen years ago)

3. "criminal child" - uzi

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 05:17 (fifteen years ago)

4. "the walls came down" - the call

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 05:19 (fifteen years ago)

5. "rock n roll individual" - patti smith (hyeah, i know)

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 05:19 (fifteen years ago)

6. "Popular" - Nada Surf

queen of the toilets, which is in some ways the worst branch of royalty (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 05:20 (fifteen years ago)

7. "our coastal hymn" - les savy fav

Baluchistan of Landscape Avocado (Pillbox), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 05:26 (fifteen years ago)

Eve Libertine needs a trophy for this IMO.

Mormons come out of the sky and they stand there (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 05:33 (fifteen years ago)

^ this, plus

8. "prayer to god" - shellac

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 05:35 (fifteen years ago)

never heard that nada surf song, and don't really like it but yes, exactly that

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 05:36 (fifteen years ago)

the hold steady do this a lot, right? i don't listen to them, so i don't know, but that's the impression i get.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 05:38 (fifteen years ago)

Oh!

9. "The Past is a Grotesque Animal" - Of Montreal.

Def has the propulsion. To the point of causing extreme tension actually (it never resolves). And he gets ranty, but not initially.

queen of the toilets, which is in some ways the worst branch of royalty (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 05:41 (fifteen years ago)

10. "sick man" - scraping foetus off the wheel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gJbyVMmNU0

youtubes are nice

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 05:44 (fifteen years ago)

11. "holiday in cambodia" - dead kennedys

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 05:52 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2p9fDJsHNo

so fucking brilliant, btw

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 05:57 (fifteen years ago)

"...though i wouldn't really want to meet someone who was"

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 05:59 (fifteen years ago)

Its great innit?

queen of the toilets, which is in some ways the worst branch of royalty (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 06:02 (fifteen years ago)

Lets tear this shit apart! Lets tear our fucking bodies apart! Lets have some FUN!

queen of the toilets, which is in some ways the worst branch of royalty (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 06:03 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, is an amazing song. need to hear more of montreal, apparently.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 06:05 (fifteen years ago)

12. "red right hand" - nick cave & the bad seeds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vU22ts-Qcw

nick's built himself quite a line in controlled fury. guess this one is kind of a cheat, cuz the music isn't falling-down-the-stairs headlong like i asked for, but the vocal get the vibe across nonetheless.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 06:12 (fifteen years ago)

plus thanks to mod for moving this

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 06:12 (fifteen years ago)

13. "jesus' tod" - burzum

otoh, fuck burzum

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 06:16 (fifteen years ago)

14. "good luck" - basement jaxx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2RJDw1gluM

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 06:39 (fifteen years ago)

...and yeah, that version

15. "i against i" - bad brains

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjITD9LnwRY

give it a minute

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 06:48 (fifteen years ago)

16. XTC - Complicated Game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByPIV36Q7HM

Arvo Pärty (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 07:02 (fifteen years ago)

like a rolling stone, or is that too obvious?

always be cozen (dayo), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 07:08 (fifteen years ago)

no, that's perfect! great song, too.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 07:27 (fifteen years ago)

geez - i think most Birthday Party songs would fit here, as well as bunch of stuff by the Pop Group

and then you have Diamanda Galas ...

and Red Right Hand isn't as propulsive (talking about Bad Seeds songs) as The Witness Song

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 07:35 (fifteen years ago)

...and I'd say that either 'Stagger Lee' or 'Tupelo' were about as apocalyptically powerful in delivery and message as you could hope to hear.

McAlmot and Butler 'Yes'

Duran (Doran), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 07:46 (fifteen years ago)

9. "The Past is a Grotesque Animal" - Of Montreal.

I still can't disassociate this from the pasta parody on some thread last year

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 07:51 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, considered posting "stagger lee" instead of "red right hand", but as played-out as it is, i still love RRH awful much. and make pop group suggestions, sarah! i know them, but not well, and while the hectoring is definitely there, i don't think of them as over-the-precipice propulsive in the way that scratches my particular itch. same with diamanda. amazing intensity, but where's the headless chauffeur?

18. "sinnerman" - nina simone

substituting other passions for "hectoring" rage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn5tiuZU4JI

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 07:57 (fifteen years ago)

lol! missed the pasta parody...

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 07:57 (fifteen years ago)

19. tori amos - precious things

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCWTEkcL1VQ

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 07:58 (fifteen years ago)

19. "double barrel prayer" - diamanda galas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZUtDJR73_c

yeah but shit yeah

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:05 (fifteen years ago)

some other wonderful ilxor posted a youtube of diamanda covering I Put a Spell on You - prob. on Diamanda thread -

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:08 (fifteen years ago)

or uh let's make that 20

xpost

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:08 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, her i put a spell on you is fantastic, as is her version of johnny cash's 25 minutes to go. more static/funereal than propulsive though

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:09 (fifteen years ago)

there's a sense in which songs like "believe" and "i will survive" are the secret undercurrent of this thread...

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:11 (fifteen years ago)

Nirvana - Frances Farmer blah blah Revenge on Seattle

-- i prefer the Johnny Cash version - but the first song on that album - Iron Lady - is amazing

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:11 (fifteen years ago)

oh - and Siouxsie and the Banshees - The Lord's Prayer

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:14 (fifteen years ago)

okay, lex otm, that tori amos track is stunning. breathless intensity + relentless, hamering drive, so nice. maybe a bit too loaf/steinman "operatic" for my tastes, but gets the job done, no doubt.

in that spirit:

23. "total eclipse of the heart" - bonnie tyler

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:25 (fifteen years ago)

is that an apocalyptic screed though?

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:27 (fifteen years ago)

well, i dunno, but the intensity of the performance creates the sense that an apocalypse of some sort is being screeded at u face. good enough for me. equal opportunity employer here.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:29 (fifteen years ago)

i mean if ur heart gets totally eclipsed, that's gotta at least feel like an apocalypse, right?

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:31 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkayrMDWt0w

fucking great

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:31 (fifteen years ago)

"my little chickadee, carrion, carrion..."

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:31 (fifteen years ago)

lol at "screeded at u face"

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:32 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWNXb6X_xGs

in at #21, retrospectively

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:35 (fifteen years ago)

^ rough mix

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:36 (fifteen years ago)

S: Swans - New Mind
D: Rollins Band - Liar

Neggin' you crapative (NickB), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:40 (fifteen years ago)

Also, Bonnie should have gone with Total Apocalypse of the Heart

Neggin' you crapative (NickB), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:40 (fifteen years ago)

I mean, if you're including Tori and Bonnie Tyler - then Sinead O'Connor "Troy" should also be on the list

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:41 (fifteen years ago)

don't know that that's the nirvana track i'd pick, though. was always about "scentless apprentice" for me. that and "negative creep".

agree abt the destroying of rollins band

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:41 (fifteen years ago)

cuz and i'm stoned (not really but)

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:42 (fifteen years ago)

well look - maybe frances farmer isn't the best example of a nirvana song - but neither is red right hand, dude, it's kinda tight and swingy

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:43 (fifteen years ago)

yeah mea culpa. but i really do like "red right hand". it clouds my vision.

"troy" is starting off very promisingly...

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:44 (fifteen years ago)

see, and i really like "frances farmer" - so there

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:45 (fifteen years ago)

note that this theme seems to encourage ur longer songs

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:46 (fifteen years ago)

and probably "Horses" as far as Patti Smith songs go would be more in the proper vein than "rock and roll .... person of color"

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:47 (fifteen years ago)

PJ Harvey: Rid of Me

ledge, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:49 (fifteen years ago)

^^ yeah, hoping someone would pick a good PJ Harvey track

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:50 (fifteen years ago)

okay so "troy" is magnificent

and good call on "horses". they both got that wind machine hair feeling though

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:50 (fifteen years ago)

Eve Libertine needs a trophy for this IMO.

Damn straight
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=OuOo-NC9RrE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmXK6DOpwlY

Duncan Donuts (Ned Trifle II), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:51 (fifteen years ago)

and ledge otm. was thinking about PJH way back at the top of the thread, but she got lost in the shuffle.

an all-time favorite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlVcLJmxqoE

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:52 (fifteen years ago)

xp Damn why didn't "Shaved Women" show up?

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=OuOo-NC9RrE

Duncan Donuts (Ned Trifle II), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:52 (fifteen years ago)

love the production on the album version, but miss "she's fucked my memory"

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:53 (fifteen years ago)

on the yuri g song? I only have the demos - not the actual album

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:54 (fifteen years ago)

sinéad's "troy" should definitely be here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu7n0ccyywY

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:55 (fifteen years ago)

KRS1 - Sound Of The Police
Public Enemy - Welcome To The Terrordome

Pretty pretty much my definition of an indignant sound.

Manic Street Preachers - Faster

Yeah, fuck you Plath, Pinter and Mailer...

Duran (Doran), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:56 (fifteen years ago)

Actually if we're talkin ranty Mr Cave songs, surely "Mutiny in Heaven" by the Birthday Party works here!

queen of the toilets, which is in some ways the worst branch of royalty (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:57 (fifteen years ago)

^^ Trayce knows what's up

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:57 (fifteen years ago)

XP: Seconded. Or Sonny's Burning.

Gang Of Four - At Home He's A Tourist

Duran (Doran), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:58 (fifteen years ago)

Esp love it when he hollers "and fuckin WINGS burst out my BACK!"

queen of the toilets, which is in some ways the worst branch of royalty (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:00 (fifteen years ago)

When they sing "Rolling, rolling, rolling", I like to picture the Birthday Party kicking Limp Bizkit around a bar room. And all of Limp Bizkit are crying.

Duran (Doran), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:01 (fifteen years ago)

I mean, almost any Birthday Party song would fit -- Release the Bats

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:02 (fifteen years ago)

Pretty much the entire ouevre of Van Der Graaf Generator fits this template, but I'll go for "Arrow" as a starter :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaZDc92olTU

the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:02 (fifteen years ago)

which is the one where he keeps going on about our lives being boxes of dirt?

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:03 (fifteen years ago)

Not that I like it but... 'You Oughta Know' by Alannis Morrissey

Duran (Doran), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:04 (fifteen years ago)

what the hell number we on?

Fall have to be in here. Maybe Peel Session New Puritan best fits thread description?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esDd3RXQqFI

portrait of velleity (woof), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:05 (fifteen years ago)

and then there's Miserable Lie by The Smiths - where Morrissette just kinda howls at the end

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:05 (fifteen years ago)

Ah fuck, The Fall. Good call.

The field's right open but my favourite righteously enraged fall songs are Theme From Sparta FC and Big New Prinz.

Duran (Doran), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:07 (fifteen years ago)

anyone want to bet that this thread will not have at least half a dozen LJ posts in the next 12 hours?

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:09 (fifteen years ago)

Was also thinking C 'n' C Mithering, Slates Slags etc, The Classical, Idiot Joy Showland... yeah, it's a big list.

portrait of velleity (woof), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:10 (fifteen years ago)

42. "ethiopia hagere" - the ex & getachew mekuria

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:12 (fifteen years ago)

for the sake of setting the numbering to (approximately right)

sadly no easily available youtube for the ex & GM track :((((((

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:12 (fifteen years ago)

the "r&b divas can be apocalyptically angry too" section:

43. janet jackson - what about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOFxvPIygj0

44. aaliyah - what if

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cIMouak7BY

45. k. michelle - hit 'em in the mouth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi1mhFQjhu8

46. ciara ft. ludacris - high price

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMVLnpzT1Ec

47. kelis - i don't care any more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRgrJgCBY6k

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:22 (fifteen years ago)

48. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-K0bRlJEsE

dang, gotta review the above

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:23 (fifteen years ago)

49.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBiAtwQZnHs

Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:32 (fifteen years ago)

ring the alarm, yeah? (still not sure I totally get the point of this thread)

always be cozen (dayo), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:34 (fifteen years ago)

50.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0j0GCbMC7A

Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:36 (fifteen years ago)

i have questions about the the R&B divas thing, tbh, because my operating vision is about tune & production being this exploding bomb, and the singer being a wailing presence riding the lip of the racing impact wave, and you (dear listener) being stripped bare by a relentless blast of sound and emotion, an ecstasy of somehow joyous rage and - this is crucial - blinding speed.

the R&B productions posted are more about rotating in place, dancing, sliding back and forth. this tends to kill the hurtling apocalypse vibe i'm looking for, but maybe replaces it with something equivalent? processing...

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:37 (fifteen years ago)

that fits to a tee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC9Dam7ra4A

always be cozen (dayo), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:39 (fifteen years ago)

note that i haven't been true to this vision, not 100% anyway, cuz "red right hand" is a goddam trudge, and "never been in a riot" kind of typically hectoring UK (albeit with a funky beat).

suggestions from others have often been better than my own - amazing of montreal track, for instance.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:40 (fifteen years ago)

okay yeah, beyonce track (#51) is otm

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:42 (fifteen years ago)

49. Thy Damnation Slumbereth Not - Half Man Half Biscuit

'Well I’m just a primitive creature of the heath so excuse my savage ignorance
But if I’m still on my feet at four o’clock
I’ll be stealing the lead off the roof

Come saddle my milk-white steed
I've seen much more than I need
And I know that you won't heed the call
So I've sprayed it on to the wall' etc

Great example of their poignant anger.

GamalielRatsey, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:42 (fifteen years ago)

If it doesn't have blinding speed it doesn't belong on this thread imo.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:45 (fifteen years ago)

52. The last minute of this is some of the most exciting music I've ever heard in my life. Outdoes the original in terms of apocalyptic intensity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCyTqnizcvI

Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:45 (fifteen years ago)

in general though, it seems to me that a straight ahead, hard driving, hitch-free beat (like the simple house beat in the basement jaxx track upthread) delivers this vibe better than a more typically staggered/funky R&B rhythm. typically, not necessarily.

xxxpost

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:46 (fifteen years ago)

If it doesn't have blinding speed it doesn't belong on this thread imo.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, September 8, 2010 2:45 AM (41 seconds ago) Bookmark

this may be so. the key here is a sense of hurtling, furious ecstasy, like being fucking icarus in that final moment when your wings take flame.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:50 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, okay, conclusion of that merry clayton "gimme shelter" cover is otm, overwhelming

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:53 (fifteen years ago)

53. "oh no bruno" - nomeansno (because i fucking hate "dad", no matter how well it fits)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQLFpJuZ8zI

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:54 (fifteen years ago)

i guess i was focusing more on angry than apocalyptic, though the aaliyah and ciara tracks still count imo

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 09:58 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, the aaliyah track def hits it way harder than janet, who's clearing shooting for something similar but not quite nailing it. wonder if it's just the live performance...

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:00 (fifteen years ago)

i think that janet live performance is one of the most powerful things i've seen! and certainly one of the best things in her career; the aaliyah track is good but a bit "oh, you wanted to work with nine inch nails, didn't you"

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:05 (fifteen years ago)

well, ciara track isn't doing what i'm looking for (the feeling is personal, after all), but it's an awesome song nonetheless.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:06 (fifteen years ago)

[listening to the janet track again]

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:06 (fifteen years ago)

54. Sensational Alex Harvey Band, Next

^ somebody needs to post a YouTube of this

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:08 (fifteen years ago)

okay, yeah, janet brings it, no argument - but the sound is bad and the arrangement kind of clunky/TV special obvious. still that's just detailing. i get where yr coming from: it's an amazing performance. aaliyah track is all gimmick intensity by comparison, but it's sort of a gimmicky effect i'm talking about to begin with, and sometimes the most obvious tricks work just fine.

you're right though - i didn't given janet anywhere near enough credit on the 1st pass.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:17 (fifteen years ago)

55. "third uncle" - brian eno (or, ideally, bauhaus)

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:27 (fifteen years ago)

56. "ballad of a sin eater" - ted leo & the pharmacists

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:30 (fifteen years ago)

well okay, here's an old gray whistle test version of TSAHB's "next". it is absolutely NOT the kind of thing i'm looking for, but so brilliant and insane that it deserves to be seen. so yeah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqx5j-FuqeI

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:34 (fifteen years ago)

57. "hero" - neu!

should have come in way earlier (along with third uncle) as instructional material

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYeVvp8sdmg

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:41 (fifteen years ago)

Yes, having re-read the intial post, "Next" isn't what you're looking for but pretty sure there's a few other SAHB songs that fit the bill.

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:44 (fifteen years ago)

Just to warn you contend: the rest of that Of Montreal album doesnt have that intense angst that "past" does, its mostly glam-rock quirky fun. That one song is a clear glass exception.

queen of the toilets, which is in some ways the worst branch of royalty (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:50 (fifteen years ago)

GREAT thread. some of my favourite music. when I make music quite a lot of it will be like this.

there are so many good examples, will fulfil sarahel's prediction in a jiffy. meanwhile here's the OM pasta parody: THE PAST IS A GROTESQUE ANIMAL

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:55 (fifteen years ago)

58. Suicidal Tendencies - Institutionalized

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoF_a0-7xVQ

jesper olsen twins (NickB), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:00 (fifteen years ago)

YESSSSSSSSSSSS

queen of the toilets, which is in some ways the worst branch of royalty (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:03 (fifteen years ago)

How could I have forgot that!?

OMG now that makes me think:

59. "Stuart" - Dead Milkmen

queen of the toilets, which is in some ways the worst branch of royalty (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:04 (fifteen years ago)

Apocalyptic pepsi bitching xp

jesper olsen twins (NickB), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:04 (fifteen years ago)

DO YOU KNOW what the QUEERS are DOING to the SOIL!?

queen of the toilets, which is in some ways the worst branch of royalty (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:04 (fifteen years ago)

btw this list already contains stuff I *would* have nominated, such as XTC's Complicated Game, The Fall's New Puritan and 'anything by VdGG or HMHB'

but you knew that already

the music has to be an apocalyptic screed for this to really work as well, obv

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:09 (fifteen years ago)

My first thought was "isn't this, like, a whole lot of songs" but having just gone through my last.fm top tracks I can see v few clear-cut examples, so HA at me

guess I like my music to just hang about in a chill manner, maybe saying "hey man, look at that really cosmic thing over there, ain't that a thing"

vampire headphase (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:12 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvAS-AhYlAc&feature=related

has to be done, really

Hongro Horace (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:14 (fifteen years ago)

AND WE'LL GO SPINNING AND SPINNING AND SPINNING
INTO HIS OWN DECLINE
*explosion*

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:17 (fifteen years ago)

OK here's my first submission. First for a while, actually - it's so obscure and IMO important that I think it demands a platform to be heard.

It is

61. The Khe Sanh Approach - Crocodile Teargas

http://www.sendspace.com/file/3nbr8r

and it's one of the most electrifying examples of this ever written. Nobody's heard of it, really, so you'll have to trust me.

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:20 (fifteen years ago)

U2 Sunday Bloody Sunday?

k¸ (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:21 (fifteen years ago)

basically all of "the final cut"

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:22 (fifteen years ago)

i forgot what a great album that is - "the hero's return" is probably the best song on it but "fletcher memorial home" probably fits this thread's brief better

DID THEY EXPECT US TO TREAT THEM WITH ANY RESPECT?????!!!

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 11:23 (fifteen years ago)

Pretty much anything by late-period Current 93

Pretty much anything by A Silver Mt Zion

margana (anagram), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 12:24 (fifteen years ago)

Saul Williams - Penny for a Thought

rhythm fixated member (chap), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 12:28 (fifteen years ago)

Dead Kennedys - This Could Be Anywhere

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 12:28 (fifteen years ago)

okkervil river - black

ciderpress, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 12:35 (fifteen years ago)

[downloading "crocodile teargas" on my ancient incremental machinery]

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 18:10 (fifteen years ago)

okay, khe sahn approach tune is at least starting out with requisite metronomic drive & insistent/repetitive angryman accusations. plus 14-minute running time, check. not sure i like the vocals, or at least not the way they're recorded, but the feeling's definitely there. reminds me of...

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 18:19 (fifteen years ago)

67. "to hell with good intentions" - mclusky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFOpifdJXcs

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 18:24 (fifteen years ago)

not that song in particular so much, but mclusky in general

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 18:25 (fifteen years ago)

love saul williams taking down barney's realness

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 18:29 (fifteen years ago)

they've already been mentioned upthread, but-uh...

68. "blindness" - the fall

okay, so he only occasionally manages a hector, but that's a masterclass on headless driving

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 18:40 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rU-1gFKPmo&feature=related

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 18:41 (fifteen years ago)

turns out i don't like the okkervil river, it is not a good river

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 18:44 (fifteen years ago)

"crocodile teargas", by the way, is goddam awesome. thanks for that, lj.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 18:48 (fifteen years ago)

69. "love's my only crime" - laughing hyenas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auyZ3OeIwwo&feature=related

fucking john brannon

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 18:52 (fifteen years ago)

supposedly you can't fuck with his love

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 18:54 (fifteen years ago)

70. Battery - Aftermath

Ignore the goth-girl fan video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBjzXjIMBiY

Arvo Pärty (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

(I suppose there's a LOT of electro/industrial stuff that qualifies for this thread, but Battery's Maria Azevedo does rage really well.)

Arvo Pärty (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:02 (fifteen years ago)

71. Roger Waters "What God Wants"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm4hkCA3DIM

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

xpost:

trying to ignore the vid. but this is not the sort of thing for which our fathers fought and died. yukko. a turd in the face of decency.

agree though that there must be a ton of contemporary electronic goth/industrial stuff that goes for this vibe, right? i posted like bauhaus & foetus upthread, but those reference points are hopelessly out of date...

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:08 (fifteen years ago)

crucifucks - the savior

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O467l4TqRBY

You know, Caps... Jimmy Hats, Gloves, McRibs, Slee (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

73. "fire on the moon" - the bellrays

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmiG0RUaoR4

on some days, my favorite song in the world

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

here's another tear at the bottom of the ocean
another letter nobody will read
here's another prayer lacking proper devotion
from another place nobody, nobody wants to see

there's a fire on the moon but i can't get there
goddam these wings, they take me nowhere

;_;

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:15 (fifteen years ago)

74. John Lennon - Gimme Some Truth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlzrNKN3rZI

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

crucifucks song is rad, but man it is hard to have doc dart in your ears

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

dude - Doc Dart is way more palatable than Joanna Newsom

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)

^ point of contention

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:26 (fifteen years ago)

i love doc, but he's one of those people that i fully understand why others could find him intolerable....he makes jello biafra sound like billy holiday

You know, Caps... Jimmy Hats, Gloves, McRibs, Slee (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)

i'm not a newsom fan, though. enjoyed the live show mostly in the sense that i didn't hate it, which was the expectation going in.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:28 (fifteen years ago)

thing about that song you posted, UMS, is that it's exactly the sort of thing i'm digging for in this thread, so great. and i could see as how one might acquire a taste for dart's voice, in the process of enjoying the music. me though, i'm not there yet. avoided the band for decades due to difficulties with those tones.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:31 (fifteen years ago)

and fwiw, roger waters' voice isn't any easier to take

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

aw you're totally missing out on the joys of Hinckley had a Vision!

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

[cuing up hinkley had a vision]

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

which is hilarious, awesome, completely insufferable, and still hilarious.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:39 (fifteen years ago)

the ones with totally wtf lyrics are my favorites though - i think "behind the door" is the title of one of them - and then there's the one where he goes into hysterics about his piece of paper

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

sex pistols - holidays in the sun

goole, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:47 (fifteen years ago)

So shall I be there!
So shall I be there when you meet your final end
Because this is not DISNEYLAND
This is not PUNK LAND
This is INDIAN LAND
This is INDIAN LAND!!
This is INDIAN LAND!!!!!

You must be wondering how I know all of these things..
Well, you know..
I'm God!

So listen up, okay?
My will be done!

You know, Caps... Jimmy Hats, Gloves, McRibs, Slee (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

and in the spirit of crucifucks, no decent youtubes of feederz "jesus entering from the rear" or "psychward" boo

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

that first feederz song you mention was on the Let Them Eat Jellybeans A/T comp, wasn't it?

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, there's a rerecorded version on their 1st lp, but it isn't as good

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

sister songs:

flipper - "ha ha ha"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCEv3mlpx1U

circle jerks - "beverly hills"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bFXM0OyhDY

You know, Caps... Jimmy Hats, Gloves, McRibs, Slee (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skyzWf-qIa0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUAwdXRbyWM

The verses on these remind me of each other

Shit Cat and Party (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

79. "human cannonball" - butthole surfers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK8CNSciKp4&feature=related

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 20:12 (fifteen years ago)

80. "flying houses" - scratch acid

no tubes sad

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 20:14 (fifteen years ago)

confused by that last round of UMS & noodle vague suggestions. i mean, the crass track, fuck yeah, that's it exactly. and ghostface is an interesting parallel, but doesn't really go for hurtling fury. nor do the flipper & circle jerks tracks. those were offered as footnote partners to crucifucks & feederz, right?

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 20:23 (fifteen years ago)

I'm thinking something of Sepultura Roots but I'm not sure I understand the instructions.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 20:25 (fifteen years ago)

metal has been studiously avoided, unfairly. a lot of it seems to fit, but then not quite. like motorhead's "sex and death" captures the vibe, but the vocal's a bit too controlled. and when metal vocalists go all unhinged and ranty, the music tends to get either complicated or sludgy. mentioned burzum's "jesus' tod" upthread, and that's the metal that seems closest to me. but i'm hardly an expert, so...

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

81. "1970" - the stooges

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNVmV3KtrSc

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 20:34 (fifteen years ago)

thread becomes confusing when attempting to make for the likes of sinead of connor and janet jackson, but stooges get the basic gist across

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)

...attempting to make room for the likes of...

yeah

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 20:45 (fifteen years ago)

the Sinead O'Connor song totally fits - wtf?

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 20:47 (fifteen years ago)

it fits, but is maybe confusing to someone who is trying to decide whether or not sepultura works - different vibe

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 20:49 (fifteen years ago)

having to load i up again right now to make sure, cuz i only heard it for the 1st time last night...

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 20:50 (fifteen years ago)

okay, so sinead o connor is half an outlier, cuz though it's certainly angry & apocalyptic (holy crap, that video!), it takes quite a while to build up to full-on propulsive, and even when it gets there it splits the difference between stately and barreling.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

but the thing with a lot of the metal and industrial examples, is that they kinda stay at the same level of intensity/propulsion throughout

sarahel, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 21:03 (fifteen years ago)

that's true, but that was part of what i was thinking of initially. songs that set up this racing (but at the same time often oddly static) drive, and then just hammer away at it until the conclusion, with the vocalist both as mad coachman whipping the horses to a frenzy and helplessly screaming passenger strapped to the back. nina simone's sinnerman seems closer to this ideal than than sinead's troy, though troy does build to a satisfyingly furious crescendo and delivers such a fierce emotional blast throughout that it seems churlish to deny it.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 21:12 (fifteen years ago)

quit hectoring me with all your rules!!!!

You know, Caps... Jimmy Hats, Gloves, McRibs, Slee (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 21:13 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ7p48IG2xA

zvookster, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 21:14 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.troy-movie.stasi.co.uk/troy-movie-film/troy/eric-bana-hector-troy-movie.jpg

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 21:18 (fifteen years ago)

I think "Winter Warz" fits because it builds to that epic, grandstanding Cappadonna verse where by the time you get to "The truth in the song be the pro-Black teaching" it's almost breathless. The intensity is all in the delivery, really, of course musically it doesn't really accelerate. And of all the Crass songs I coulda picked I hear something in the rhythm of the words on "White Punks" that's very reminiscent of the verses on the Ghostface track. One after the other, the echo (unintentional sure) is there.

Shit Cat and Party (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 21:21 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, i hear what you're saying about the cappa verse, and even how it echoes steve ignorant's delivery (strange but true)

but holy shit that z-ro track

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 21:35 (fifteen years ago)

eminem has a few that maybe would qualify

You know, Caps... Jimmy Hats, Gloves, McRibs, Slee (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 21:44 (fifteen years ago)

yeah "common people" makes me think of a track building to a point where the vocalist is in passionate unhinged hysteria - hip hop tho tends to build and release musically in loops of 1,2,4,8 or 16 bars (with some common change-ups like maybe hooks or dropping drums out etc)

so with "look what you did to me" it's almost all with the vocals, starting with rapidfire double-tracked double-time releasing into singing which itself builds to a higher register (the "way i move my hands in ways not known to man" part), then the second verse starts with the drums dropped out but the doubled track is now in a higher register so u get a few hundred volts shot thru it even before the drums come back in. then greater & greater urgency until both vocal tracks themselves pitch up, and z-ro throwing some emphasized tupac cadences (the drankalottaBEEEERS shedalottaTEEARS stuff); it's all p insane.

zvookster, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 21:45 (fifteen years ago)

sorry that was a bit lj on talk talk

zvookster, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 21:46 (fifteen years ago)

not at all, otm, plus the song's great and i'd never heard it

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 21:48 (fifteen years ago)

re em: yeah, "lose yourself" for obv

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 21:48 (fifteen years ago)

82 (I think).

Enraged? Hectoring? Vitriolic apoplexy? Screed? And no one's mentioned John Lydon? Have you taken leave of your senses?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk9yqufMeIM

Fruitless and Pansy Free (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Thursday, 9 September 2010 01:15 (fifteen years ago)

sex pistols - holidays in the sun

― goole, Wednesday, September 8, 2010 9:47 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

margana (anagram), Thursday, 9 September 2010 07:52 (fifteen years ago)

that z-ro track is incredible.

83. no lay - unorthodox daughter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3Pp3V0N0hk

84. the bug ft. tippa irie - angry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVbhOZjSuic

85. ruff sqwad - r u double f

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3C5NMEek-E

86. ruff sqwad - future

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yswxuyy6-aU

87. newham generals ft. dizzee rascal - pepper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRcN8goFIrg

88. three 6 mafia - testin' my gangsta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRwSVTx61tc

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 9 September 2010 08:40 (fifteen years ago)

also duhhh the original version of tori amos's "professional widow"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8NGWHZHZao

BONUS - live version where she's at her most diamanda. it's quiet and creepy and then the last minute and a half is just terrifying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p6fwS-iB50

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 9 September 2010 09:48 (fifteen years ago)

Enraged? Hectoring? Vitriolic apoplexy? Screed? And no one's mentioned John Lydon? Have you taken leave of your senses?

No sign of Magma? Christian doesn't like that:

http://v1.progblog.de/uploads/vander-1970.jpg

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 September 2010 10:37 (fifteen years ago)

can it be a screed if no one can understand what you're saying because it's in a made-up language?

sarahel, Thursday, 9 September 2010 10:39 (fifteen years ago)

It's certainly apocalyptic... well, so he tells us anyway

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 September 2010 10:40 (fifteen years ago)


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