t/s: kyle hall vs levon vincent

choose one

kyle hall

whats the best place to start with both?

kmfh - dances with a sun goddess is an awesome track

Kyle. Levon doesn't nearly do for me what he apparently does for so many.

The Water Is Fine/Worx of Art EP's are a pretty good introduction to Hall.

i'll take levon. he can build such a strong feeling of tension sometimes (late night jam, 1000 miles from home). maybe too many releases in 2009 though, and very quiet this year so far - no releases afaik? my favorite is six figures ep.

i think i'd take levon too. he just does an amazing job of taking chicago style boompty bump and infusing it with basic channel throb and hiss, or berghain style bassy flex. his housiest productions (air raid, love technique, late night jam) are so raw it's crazy, they have that crazy slapped together feel where each sound just rubs up against all the others at the freshest angles, metallic drum reverb an sighing hi hats and bleepy, dirty synths forming groaning, shuddering formations of funkiness

levon's RA is awesome but its all ive heard by him. love halls singles

hes also way less "straight up"

levon

I also feel like I've never fully experienced Levon, having heard him mostly at home on monitor speakers, where it sounds small and compact, whereas hearing it on a proper rig in a dingy basement at 5 in the morning would be entirely different. Until I do experience that, his productions will continue to not really interest me (although this is just furthering the realization that I'm not big on this kind of "purist" techno), in that it is frankly really straight up.

Kyle, though, even if he's not going to blow me away has a huge amount of personality in his productions that I admire, that and a willingness to try all sorts of stuff out, and a certain enthusiasm about music past present and future, I guess. I think this is very characteristic of the young crop of producers that are active now (cf. N Jaar, Floating points, etc. I actually started a thread on this once but no one responded), and which I approve of.

New Fabric mix definitely a keeper:

http://soundcloud.com/fabric/fabric-63-levon-vincent

way way way into levon these days, still love kyle but levon has gradually changed my understanding of how tough and jacking and dubby house can be while still being "trad" house

Interesting thread since last NYE I saw Kyle and Levon DJ right next to each other. Kyle was amazing, Levon was a disaster.

ooh, disaster?

OK not a disaster, just... not fortunate. After an hour and a half of KMFH bringing the jams and generally delivering the most feel-good of feel-good house vibes, Levon took things down from like, 84 to 67, playing nothing but dull and sparse techno through, right away losing the crowd and never getting them back. By the time he started to generate any sort of heat his set was over (at which point Ame brought it back up to like, 91).

production-wise levon is not putting any feet wrong anywhere

hell naw

listening to the burrell brothers thing on rush hour, would not at all be surprised to find out this stuff was a big influence on levon (and the rest of the UG quality crew at that)

Haven't given the Fabric mix a listen yet, but in response to the original thread title, I take Levon above and beyond KH in terms of productions at this point. Kyle may be playful and all over the place, which I typically like, but his stuff doesn't even come close to hitting me like Levon's.

Is there anywhere I can download the fabric mix?

Oh I found it.

Is there anywhere I can download the fabric mix?

― elan

snarky answer: THE INTERNET, FOO

thank you for stanning this. i totally slept on levon vincent. LOVE it

at first i thought this said kyle hall vs. lemon incest

thank you for stanning this. i totally slept on levon vincent. LOVE it

― elan, Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:03 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

now i just wish with all my tears for double jointed sex freak

it took me a long time to 'get' that fact mix but i loved djsf right off the bat. oh and stereo systems? he is definitely on his own trip and it's a good one.

fabric

As a producer, Levon by about a billion miles

I've only seen him DJ once and he wasn't that great. His Fabric mix is awesome doe

I've seen Levon DJ twice. Most recently (on NYE) he wasn't great but afaik he had some personal stuff to deal with. The first time though was one of the best and most interesting sets I've seen. The way he DJed - he made it seem like percussive elements of the tracks were just on the verge of "falling apart" while working incredibly effectively. I'm not really doing it justice with the crappy description, but it was very exciting.

jealous

played 'man or mistess' in a dank club basement tonight and it slayed, thank you LV

levon no contest, btw, obv

played 'man or mistess' in a dank club basement tonight and it slayed, thank you LV

― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, September 28, 2013 12:20 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wish i could have been there for that!

what did you play after?

Runaway - Brooklyn Club Jam (Ame Remix) [Gerd Janson & Lopazz Long Edit]

c+p'd youtube for actual title, lol

haha

then i:cube - transpiration, then untold - motion the dance. i was playing for crusty noise/experimental electronic dudes so it was really satisfying to see shit pop off.

shiiit, haven't heard that, it's great!

oh you did not play that untold track!! FUCK

sounds awesome

how was the sound / place?

the sound could've been a little better, i got some distortion when i tried to push the bass a bit too much, but honestly the space itself was incredible; just exactly what you'd want, straight up fog-filled concrete bunker basement shit, with blue and red pulsing light. the guy that put it all together does a great job. there were actually dudes "crowdsurfing"??

+1

nowadays i'm more into kmfh i think, "the boat party" was massive and I haven't really been feeling recent levon

lol, accidentally just referred to Levon Vincent's "Man or Astroman"

not sure how i feel about the funkinevil latest. psyched about ordering this jay daniel 12", scorpio rising. what a fucking name! sound clips are more classical or baroque or something than kmfh. levon i just never fell head over heels in love with but i think i need the records to make the call. esp double jointed sex freak.

muted guitars or something

Levon Vincent (Official_Page)
My friends, my career has gone well these past few years. I have debts and a lot of overhead these days, but I am working hard and I'm very proud to say I have achieved a situation where I have steady work. Things are optimistic for me for at least a year or two. I am ready to start sponsoring / apprenticing people. Maybe one musician at a time. Let's develop something. A 'tourist' can live legally in Berlin for 90 days. I want to begin supporting an up-and-comer for 90 day segments, essentially I will pay your rent for 3 months in Berlin, likely a room for rent in a flat where we know music-making will be allowed. We have to find one. We got resources and a community. I got a little bit of kit to kick down too. Monitors, at least. We'll get you sorted out. And I'll check in with you once a month or whatever. Maybe I can offer some guidance too. Basically I want to facilitate your 24/7 music making. And your partying, too. As long as that's musical.
Please send some of your demos, (2 songs only), via soundcloud links to levonvinc✧✧✧@hotm✧✧✧.c✧✧. Subject "bootcamp"
If I can find someone to believe in, then I can help care for your living expense while you take a small time out of your life to focus solely on your own craft. 3 months should be enough time to learn a thing or two. Think of it as bootcamp. You must be completely committed to your craft. Anything else is secondary, and I'll know immediately from the first beat of your demo so don't front! I'm looking forward to hearing some new world sounds. Thank you for participating.

Interesting experiment.

sounds like an awesome guy!

A+ dude

I wonder how this mentoring would work given that nobody really sounds like Levon - the way his melodies form and sounds scrape together is so unique.

honestly have trouble imagining how something like that would work, though i agree it's laudable that l.v. wants to pay it forward and throw it out to "everyone" for a chance.

FYI Levon just put his album up for download on his Facebook page (!)

!!!!

"for mona, my beloved cat: rest in peace"

#prayformona

jesus the first track is amazing

this is so good so far

This is music for the ugly ducklings of the world. Music for swans. If you are you're a member of the rat race, climbing around a dumpster with the other rats vying for power, you may of course listen, but know - this is not music for you. This is action against you.

<3333

Holy shit @ Launch Ramp To The Sky.

The whole album is excellent.

:-D

hmm this is not really clicking with me yet, it's a bit dour for a sunny day

the boat party really is classic

i just love the beautiful distorted basement bounce

sun is down, levon is killing it

This is fucking awesome (esp. Launch Ramp To The Sky, on first listen).

"launch ramp to tha sky" is ridiculously good. it's quite rare to hear a house album that's so lean and dancefloor-focused but where the distinct character of each track immediately comes through. brilliant album

everyone is killing it in 2015

It's a lot more dubby and (one or two tracks excepted) less jacking than I'd anticipated based on his Fabric mix and having heard various singles pop up in mixes.

His sense of timing is ridiculously good, other producers who build up slowly tend to bring additional melodic elements either all at once or with fairly even spacing, Levon manages to keep a track percolating for a really long time before bringing in other elements in quick succession, so you get these sudden giddy spiralling moments in what had previous seemed an enjoyably functional banger.

This album's genre tag sure is a mouthful.

well this is my favorite album on earth

I'm feeling a bit disappointed by the LV album. It's good, but not as good as I was hoping. I have only listened to it three times though, sometimes these things take a while

anti-corporate music clearly the best track

I played some of "junkies on herrmann strasse" to test the PA in the room where I was giving my Shakespeare lecture the other day, my students were down to jam w levon

"the beginning" has that beat that reminds me of carl craig's landcruising

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21377-from-joy/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyYwDKMFVzI

off the clips u already know this is a classic

haven't listened to the new album yet but put his back catalogue on my phone this week... holy shit kyle hall is a god damn genius

yeah, he's pretty awesome, not sure why there is so little talk of him on ILM, or in the usual EOY list spots

'solar funk' is my favourite track... can't stop listening to it

'must see' as well

'body of water' >_<

record is incredible, wish it hadn't been released vinyl-only in december which i feel maybe could've done something about the "usual eoy list spots" thing

how serendipitous that the two artists vahid pitted against each other itt both released vinly-only first albums in the same year

whotf listens to house music on vinyl

"solar funk" is in my top 3 Kyle tracks along with "down" and "our love"

i think these days I am more into Kyle actually

Yep

Boat Party is the bomb, haven't heard the new one yet

what pre alb Levon V should i check out?

Check out Rain showers part 2 or rainstorms or whatever it's called

Can never not take the opportunity to big up Levon Vincent's Fabric mix.

I just ordered the LV fabric mix yesterday after listening to the 2015 album almost daily since hearing about it on the ILM poll

my levon vincent top 5

"woman is the devil"
"together forever"
"late night jam"
"games dub"
"air raid"

all on youtube

actually my kyle hall top three should be a top four with "crushed" included, such an amazing tune

fuck yes, that one is my fav.

pre-album levon top 6

1. impressions of a rainstorm
2. speck's jam
3. late night jam
4. man or mistress
5. rainstorm ii
6. ???

cosign his brilliant fabric mix

the new kyle hall album is really great imo, love "dervenen" and "strut garden" in partic

see, almost totally different levon picks. how great is that, a man for all seasons, etc

"strut garden" seems to be an early favorite in a lot of quarters

I need to give this another spin but I found it all a bit dull.

Kmfh or LV? Or both?

The new Kyle Hall album. Like I felt like I was being constantly encouraged to stroke my chin in a Pipecockish way while thinking "nice soul, nice authenticity" but I just wasn't feeling it.

whoa from joy is magnificent, such a warm and inviting record

"mysterious lake" is beautiful

it is just such a comforting song

LV fabric mix is so good

Want the new kyle hall album but $52 is kind of...

going on discogs for $30-$35

which is still a lot but not $52

yea i d'loaded some files of the KH album, not gonna pay that

and the LV 2015 s/t album btw - i've just been streaming that youtube link all the time b/c the free version he posted on FB last year is no longer there, lol anyone want to hook me up w/ the files?

man i hate downloading music in general, it feels shitty and just going through the tedious ad-ridden steps on those filesharing sites reminds me of how gross it is. but if you are only going to put your music on vinyl and the cost is like $50 then there might not really be an option if im going to hear your music

soulseek bro

Just to claify, this is $52 via the anemic, 72 cents on the US dollar, Canadian dollar. That said, $40 for the Levon LP was my upper ceiling (but that's kind of like 4 $10 singles).

lol i forgot that soulseek is still around

add me stan_kenton

Soulseek is still secretly really good.

^^^^^

you people! order direct from the man!

http://shop.wildkyleoats.com/product/kyle-hall-from-joy-1

if you're still butthurt about the price, you could probably dl it illegaly and paypal him what you feel is fair.

how about fred p? is anyone else into fred p? i think i might take him over both kyle and levon, some days.

Has much better high points when he hits the spot (Black Magic, Deep Love, the Efdemin reshape, where is the love) and would definitely play ahead of Hall or Vincent for me, who don't bring enough vibe or presence to the game for me. But can't guarantee you 20 goals a season like Kelley, Herbert, Noel or Kincy could in those great Ajax sides of the 90s.

kincy = gemini and herbert is obvious but who are kelley and noel? i only know a neil from those days (tolliday)

dana, archetype...

Forest were never the same after Keane left for united and Tolliday moved on to strictly 4 groovers. can you imagine watching Forest today? I get most of my records from non-league these days, there's reet vibeyness on the terraces if you know where to look

I know archetype but never heard of Dana Kelley. Thx for the tip!

i don't know if this is the official video or not but i love everything about this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u02V1nJ6mM

not an official video, it is cool though. there's a handful of youtube accounts around now whose sole purpose is uploading new dance music and pairing it with dope footage. hurfyd, OOUKFunkyOO, moskalus, etc

so i saw kyle hall dj b2b w jay daniel last night

kyle killed it but jay daniel was completely next-level

should we revisit this

i haven't heard the new levon but i hear it's quite good

new levon vincent album, he's sharing on we transfer

!

pretty into this on first listen:

https://levonvincent.bandcamp.com/album/silent-cities

this is fantastic