ILXOR Listening Room - DJ my day

http://listeningroom.fettig.net/room/ILXOR/

Listening Room is a website for listening to music with your friends. Anyone in a room can play mp3s from their computer, and everyone hears the same thing at the same time.

Listening Room is also a work in progress. For best results, use a recent version of Chrome, Safari, or Firefox. If it stops working, try hitting the refresh button.

^great idea imo

neat!

That looks great. I tried to add something but don't think it took. Already running late this morning though so know time to fool with it.

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And, before giving me grief, its the only browser I can use at work.

yeah this doesn't seem to work in IE yet but it's a cool idea, will check it out after work

# Amazing Creature is now forksclovetofu. ( 2:41 PM )
# Fabulous Hamster is now hoihoihr. ( 2:41 PM )

Slightly Confused is now seandalai

it's really glitchy but once they get this worked out it could be ilx with music.

Oh, you can change your name. Was this thing designed by an ILXor?

how kind of you to allow ilxor to dj your day

maybe it's about not uploading more than two or three songs at a time?

clearly this is meant for me to DJ everyone's day, right?

(soundtrack would just be a bunch of stuff from the ILX metal poll today, honestly)

it seems to be crazy glitchy, but the potential is awesome.

it's gonna need constant pruning and attention; i think certain tracks stick in its craw and you need to remove them as they come up.

and ilxor, throw on some metal!

:(
cant get in. have tried chrome and IE8.

firefox basically works.

we need more djs

site doesn't work for me, sorry :(

it worked but then it didnt

gotta hit some refresh buttons

i did a refresh and it didn;t work and then i opened it in another window and that didn't work and then i made a cup of tea and that really worked but it didn't have any cake with it so that part was good rather than great

so, are we supposed to upload mp3s to it ?
if so, then surely this is open to the same kind of troubles as muxtape ?

has anyone upped songs you like yet? I couldnt get in the room, it just froze everytime and im on firefox

several people have upped stuff! feel free to try creating a different room and posting link here if you wanna.
you're not uploading the mp3s per se, you're streaming them just to your room. you can't replay.

what stuff you liked has been upped? Did ilxor up some metal?

ahhh .. penny has dropped.
http://listeningroom.fettig.net/room/ireallylovemusic/

Generous Cat added The Bees by Holger Zilske from From Birds & Bees EP. ( 9:42 AM )
EZ Snappin added Beat of Love by Voice of the Beehive from Let it Bee. ( 9:49 AM )
Gracious Fellow added Color Of Success by Morris Day from Color Of Success. ( 9:42 AM )

generous cat???

it randomly generates these weirdo animal usernames
i got "glowing rabbit"

the spinning artwork is freaking me out.
no idea how that happened.

this sounds weird spinning artwork?

it pulls your mp3 info including the album cover and then the album cover appears as a record, which spins.

aw it's not doing the spinning album covers for me

tempted up upload Mouldy Old Dough by Earl Brutus - but concnered this would allow the track to be 'leaked' ?

honestly i'm digging what forks is listening to too much to add my own shit yet!

ha.
each room needs a bookmarking list so you can flip between each one.

yeah, i'm juggling like three and missing stuff.
this is killing my productivity today

Current playlist:

Sweet Like a Honey Bee by Sir Lancelot from Trinidad Is Changing
Loretta Lynn - Little Red Shoes.mp3
Freedom Day by Max Roach from We Insist!: Freedom Now Suite
The Chicks I Pick Are Slender, Tender And Tall by Louis Jordan from 1941-1943
St. James Infirmary by Josh White from Le Triomphes des Blue
Shake, Shake Mama (Cherry Ball) by Mance Lipscomb from Texas Blues Guitar
Mewing And Squealing by Elks from Elk Mating Rituals
The Assassination by Dixie Nightingales from Disturb My Soul - The Stax Sessions
Hush Hush by Dixie Nightingales from Disturb My Soul - The Stax Sessions
Cool Water by The Sons of the Pioneers from Hillbilly Fever!
Brown Eyed Handsome Man by Chuck Berry from His Best (Vol. 1)
Astral Glamour by The Homosexuals
Walkin' In The Rain by Marvin Gaye from The Soulful Sounds Of Marvin Gaye
Marion's Theme by The London Symphony Orchestra from Raiders Of The Lost Ark
Never Can Say Good-Bye by New Birth from Greatest Funk Classics
Holidae Inn (Featuring Ludacris And Snoop Dogg) by Chingy from Jackpot
Mood Indigo by Charles Mingus from Mingus Dynasty

okay, so if the record is totally black, it won't load the song. If it's got a picture on it, it's fine. If there's gray on the record, that's the playtime.

so, are we supposed to upload mp3s to it ?
if so, then surely this is open to the same kind of troubles as muxtape ?

― mark e, Friday, January 14, 2011 10:39 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this doesn't allow direct downloads though does it? it's just streaming? it'd be more comparable to internet radio then, or someone running a shoutcast server, which i don't know the legality of.

yeah.
i realised once i got a room up and running and started playing around.
going to try and figure out which album artwork is going to be fun to watch spinning.

I guess "Listo Medellin" didn't play then since I shut my PC off when I left for work.

wch is okay because I forgot I only like about 1/3 of that song a lot and the rest is kind of weird.

aaaaand now it's down?

seriously, we gotta get this on ilx. it's the killer app we need.

i think it's an FMU guy who made the site; their community found it over the weekend and broke it.

swag cru beat yall to this by several hours lol B-)

its cool but it only really works w/ like at max 5-7 participants ...

otherwise its like one of those parties where ppl fight over the ipod

i think my pimp c track broke the site.

pimpin aint dead it just moved to the web

fixed now

mmmm, nope

back again
shit goes up and down like a piston
once they get this working, killer ap

awesome!

added a song

- and it got cut off

*SADFACE*

The Sharrock I added got cut off too!

it's just madness in here.

needs:

-volume control
-track/elapsed/remaining time, in actual numbers, not with the tone arm traveling across the record
-ability to reorder the track queue

I'm trying to use this now, but I have no idea if anything's happening?

It keeps freezing up my browser (when I try to play something), so I've stopped trying it for now.

c'mon guys i'm counting on you to soundtrack my afternoon.

ok, you asked for it

also needs: drag-and-drop track adding

-ability to reorder the track queue

― earnest goes to camp, ironic goes to ilm (pixel farmer), Saturday, January 15, 2011 9:54 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i kinda like how this limitation forces ppl to play by the rules tbh

I think I figured it out, but I'm still not sure if anyone else hears the same music.

join

I don't know who's Adele, but this is a nice tune!

this room is like tuomas & forks uploading 20 songs each

Hey, anyone can upload! I did it earlier because no one else was doing it, but now it looks like others have joined.

i just feel like ppl should self-limit to 1-2 songs each unless theres like 2 ppl in the room

at a time

but w/e ill probably be in the gunsounds room more often anyway

Yeah, I see what you mean, I'm not gonna upload more now that there's plenty of people there.

We broke it again.

I thought is was my connection.

"A work in progress"

Well, I needed to go to sleep anyway. But hopefully it'll work again in the future, this was pretty fun.

Okay it looks to be working now

I still can't reconnect.

Okay, I'm back in now.

Really sucks that this only works for about an hour at a time.

It's up now. Anybody wanna join?

what are we calling the listening room today? fresh link or one from above?

seems to be the toppermost link thats got the action.

thanks.

last time around i broke the room so i'm not sure

seems a little more stable today.

okay massive lols @ Mommy & Daddy song

i have to leave the room now, but now that it seems to have settled down, this could be very addictive.
well, that is until i get net-admin banned.

wish there was a scrobbling interface for this

this is cool

we did a gun sounds version too m@tt

I love the Mommy and Daddy song.

again, the current url is http://listeningroom.fettig.net/room/ILXOR/

live again.

I would give money for this thing to get fixed. Maybe I should contact the guy.

Seems to be working again.

this yello track you just upped is all time

Haha, yeah, that's some crazy narration.

Epic LJ listening session.

Did it die or is it just me?

It died...for now.

it dead

;_;

It couldn't handle Jocko!

;_; indeed. That was fun, thanks everyone!

if he ever gets this working, i'm not sure I'll be able to get any work done on a day to day basis.

12" was too much...

It stopped immediately after Jocko said "gotta say ciao!". He cursed it. :(

um guys, it froze coz the next track hasn't uploaded. just vote it off and we can continue

xp DJ always has the last word.

Was glad to introduce people to this song today, at least

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr7QvpHsJBg

Just as I'd noticed that the cartridge on the animated deck actually gets closer to the centre, which is A+

(sorry if this appeared in chat, typed it just before it went kaboom)

oh wait it is actually dead, RIP

boooo

Double Dutch made my day, I gotta say. Can't believe I'd never heard that before!

It comes and goes LJ

Yeah, that was awesome, I hadn't heard it before either.

back up again

i'm in, this looks fun

i think it just went down again.

Well, at least it had 2-hour windows now instead of 1-hour windows.

yeah was wondering if it was my connection

:-( "The connection has timed out"
Anyway, I must get some sleep. Thanks for the rockin' tunes guys.

such a cool concept imo

it's alive!

Things we've figured out (for first-timers)

* Your upload isn't working if the metadata doesn't arrange itself in the title/artist/album order based on the id3 tag in your mp3. Also, you should see a gray band appear on the record that will approximate the song's running time. If neither of these things happen, delete and try your upload again.

* Sometimes the system will hang on an upload. If it doesn't finish within a reasonable amount of time, delete it and try again.

* It's not cool to delete other people's tracks unless it's by a majority rule. Please, if possible, try to keep the songs a reasonable length. Anything over the 6-7 minute range is pushing it.

* Don't be afraid to be uncool. We want to hear it all.

^
Thanks for posting those helpful tips. I didn't know what I was doing wrong the other night.

this thing is so cool

Sorry everyone...

lol

made a replacement room: http://listeningroom.fettig.net/room/ILOVEMUSIC/

Any idea whether particular tracks are more likely to crash the thing?

I don't think that's the case. I just think the guy's server keeps getting overloaded.

thread bookmarked. i'm up for this whenever anyone is interested in spinning some tracks.

i think the website crashed

It's a regular occurrence, sadly.

blargh

It's really great for the one or two hour shifts in which it works, but then it goes down for 20 or 30 (or 60) minutes before it comes up again.

there's another site that does exactly the same thing

mixapp.com

less attractive UI, but it's never crashed on me

Do you have to have your music catalogued in a library using iTunes to use that one? Because I certainly don't.

iirc you can just upload regular old mp3s

i would kick a room off on mixapp but i don't have any mp3s at work

http://mixapp.com/#r=4520pfLhjW

We'll see if this is comparable

I clicked. It just says loading rooms.

It makes you sign in with your facebook account.

volume control, check
track time, check

Hate having to login via fb, but whaddayagonnado

uh oh. you've crossed the rl ilx divide!

using real names and shit doesn't even have to get heated

this thing is awesome -- ilxchatz should consider a move from AIM to mixapp imo

Now that I know you can change your visible username and disable the link to your facebook profile, I'm all for using this!

thx for the heads-up on this, lukas

It lacks some of the rugged charm of Listening Room; on the other hand, it works.

oh hell, it won't allow .m4a files

woot xxp

http://mixapp.com/#r=4520pfLhjW

Get in here, people who aren't in here.

This sounds awesome, but I'm stuck at work for the moment.

This works really great so far...it isn't buggy at all, but maybe slightly less charming. That it works is really its most important feature though.

can't do the facebook divide.
we're live again in here: http://listeningroom.fettig.net/room/ILXOR

mixapp room having some issues

Yeah.

i'm lonely :(

who made the singles jukebox mix?

This dude:
http://cureforbedbugs.tumblr.com/post/2633639306/i-think-ur-a-contrarian-the-21-most-controversial
u can download it from there as well

So, do you have to have Itunes on your computer to get this Mixapp thing to work? I'm not installing Itunes just because of that.

No, but you do need a facebook account.

I'm currently just jamming songs from my own mixes in Listening Room right now.

Oh, when I try to log in to Mixapp with my Facebook username, it wants to get access to my FB profile and personal information. Fuck that shit, isn't there any way to get in there without FB being involved?

Not yet. They claim to be working on other ways.

net admins here have blocked any FB access so suspect i am not going to be able to drop into Mixapp if there is a connection.
so, back into the listening room i go.

Listening Room works just fine when it's working. I spent more time on Mixapp last night with other friends after the ILM folded and it's actually just as buggy as LR.

chat not working for me.
that big sounding track on now is Stood Me Up by FOETUS from new HIDE album.
its a f*cking massive album.

That did indeed sound absolutely huge.

Yeah, I was into it.

this is seriously killing my work today.

sorry about the 13-minute avant-industrial collage

apology accepted.

is it broken

Just broke for me.

yup.

fucking gang of four

: )

boo my song was coming up :P for a moment there i thought the IT at my job detected I was pulling bandwith and unplugged me.

you and me both moka.
i too live under that cloud of paranoia.
but i would like to think the fantasy football/twitter folk are keeping my shenanigans under the radar.

BACK ! and Sacha is rocking the house

[i really wanted to hear this .. ]

Sorry about that Gang of Four deal...glad it got resolved.

Yah, it happened again. Just give it a few minutes and it will go back to normal (?)

could we just make a new one and migrate?

It's a sitewide problem affecting all rooms.

ah, righty..

i was able to delete it, but now i can't add anything : /

Seems to be a problem with the web interface more than anything. When it's gone down for like half an hour before, and we've had a long list of songs queued up, we've got back in and it's been 30 minutes further down the playlist, like it's been playing the tracks even though we can't listen.

It's working again for me and Maresnest

i wrote dude and asked if he wanted investors, both as a business opportunity and just to get the goddam thing working. will report back if i hear from him

down again for me at least

:(

guess i'll just have to listen to the special dj food ruff edit of a marching band version of the 900 number all by myself then (found it especially for this afternoons session)

back up

considering you can edit your name and fb profile connection, why would anyone not use the other service? this one is so buggy.

When it's gone down for like half an hour before, and we've had a long list of songs queued up, we've got back in and it's been 30 minutes further down the playlist, like it's been playing the tracks even though we can't listen.

(at work now and not sure if I can get away with popping in, but maybe later)

I died there for about 15 mins and resumed from when it broked

it died, tsk

Down here as well.

back up!

oh man this stupid program's going to need it's own board

beginning to think the coders should be using us as their beta testers.

sure we could help them make this into a killer app.

Add a "Zing" button to the chat interface...

it would be really cool if this synched up with last.fm

i brokened it...;_;

Works for me.

I recommend writing the dude directly to discuss. It sounds like he's open to feedback.
http://fettig.net/weblog/2010/12/29/listening-room-at-4-weeks/

Working again.

I am running out the door but someone please upload Kraftwerk's original "Tour de France" bcz I want everyone to hear it today.

Don't have that track here, but I put up the Technopop versh of 'Sex Object'. Cut out before the end due to slow upload speed at this end though, sorry!

I like this idea A LOT. Makes waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more sense to me than last.fm (if one could even compare the two). And apparently I have ace uploads speeds. And hopefully I'm turning four people of the world on to All Natural Lemon & Lime Flavors.

so you all ready for more?

i need to work today.
if i do come in, then i suspect a p45 will be the end result.
its just too addictive ..

fever broke it again

today there's an unhealthy dose of witchhouse and reggaeton on the menu.

i did not! it's the site itself!

just kidding

but you did

;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYIvOpJTTnQ

At least I didn't break it this time! lj did!

;_;

:D

up and runnin again gets more unreliable each passing day tho

Comment in the blog post linked to above says that he's working on it.
http://fettig.net/weblog/2010/12/29/listening-room-at-4-weeks/comment-page-1/#comment-91849

...down for everyone or did my IT people eat it?

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://listeningroom.fettig.net/room/ILXOR

down again, yes

back up

Indeed.

That site makes me feel dumb.

cannot believe that tuomas has never heard of die antwoord
they were MADE for you dude

Yeah, I liked that tune, have to check them out.

Working again.

I'm going to have to avoid this until I can get application-specific volume control.

think we're at the balkanization phase

The regular ILX room got broke up, but this other one is working:

http://listeningroom.fettig.net/room/ilx2/

original is working again.
http://listeningroom.fettig.net/room/ILXOR

when Fettig gets the kinks worked out of this and adds server capacity, it might be interesting to have occasional genre-specific rooms -- jazz douchebags getting together for a couple of hours, idm parties, ilxmetalroom, etc

YES

Yeah.

for some reason this stopped working at all for me in firefox

Works for me in Firefox, on WinXP, glitchy though.

Hey everyone,

Thanks again for supporting Listening Room. The site has been getting unstable again lately due to the increasing number of users, and has been going down at times. I’m working to increase capacity – hopefully it will be better by the end of today. Until then, thanks for your patience!

-Abe

rip

it's dead right now but it will rise again...

And it has.

back up - Bollywood version of 'Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough' is excellent

http://listeningroom.fettig.net/room/tbrr/

trying a room for avantish stuff like last night's ligeti/merzbow sesh

ahmad jamal festival going now on ILXOR

busted at the minute, have a temp room working called ILXOR2

and back to ILXOR

Currently up and running and populated by ten people and not being glitchy!
http://listeningroom.fettig.net/room/ILXOR/

http://listeningroom.fettig.net/room/tbrr/

trying a room for avantish stuff like last night's ligeti/merzbow sesh

― Nigie Dempstah (nakhchivan), Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:54 (Yesterday)

this was alright, got thru all of pan sonic / merz' 'v' inter alia, so have reopened.......

ILXOR has been on a fantastic gospel/blues/African journey today.

LIKE LIKE LIKE! Harry J Allstars' cover of "Don't Let Me Down" is my best discovery so far - right up there with the Charlotte Dada version.

live again again. currently playing the haitian radio choir.

etc

current playlist:

I Ain't Fattenin' Frogs for Snakes by Ben Smith Quartet
Hubert Laws & Earl Klugh How - Down River (1980)
Mr. Mister by J*Davey from J*Davey
Me & U (Curtis Vodka Remix) by Cassie
long daddy green by blossom dearie from for cafe apres-midi
Shichinin no Samurai Suite by Fumio Hayasaka from Shichinin no Samurai / Rashômon
One Note Samba by The Blue Parrots from Having a Wonderful Time on the S.S. Hanseatic
Gimme gimme take take by Cabbage Patch Kids from A Cabbage Patch Christmas
Swahililand by Ahmad Jamal from Crystal
What A Fool Believes (Feat The by Michael Mcdonald from The Ultimate Collection
Soul Makossa by Afrique from Soul Makossa

either im blocked or its down or both

It's up. There are about 20 of us in there.
http://listeningroom.fettig.net/room/ILXOR

Down?

napping

seems to be a jittery

trying to do a weird techno theme for a bit in

http://listeningroom.fettig.net/room/tbrr/

please add stuff yall

I can get into the room, but I can't see anyone else on the 'current users' list, there are no tracks queued, and I can't get the upload option.

(I'm talking about the ILXOR room)

yes it has done that a couple of times already

still working better than previous days

I'm having the same problem with the 'tbrr' room as well.

I'm going to go boil an egg. Maybe it'll be working when I get back...

I'm going to get some sleep.

these problems are sitewide, except for when tracks get 'stuck' sometimes which can be solved by removing

Why are there two Ilx0r rooms? I've not seen it be too busy in the main one ever.

second room for strange shit, lot of avant classical and noise etc

Why can't we have that in the main room?!

idk, sometimes u can, depends who is there

don't think everyone wants a double leopards live set or tristan murail etc

main room going p noise now tho :-)

Nor does everyone want some goon shit or some Appalachian mountain music, but surely the point is to share stuff and have a listen with an open mind?

yeeeeeeeah to an extent, but i'm not going to foist an hour of incapacitants on the main room in the spirit of catholic taste

I like the way ILXOR mixes it up.

i guess i kinda like hearing a bunch of stuff i wouldn't normally listen to like tuomas playing house and shit like that, isn't that the point?

tbrr is 'in addition to' rather than 'instead of' and isn't created in a polemic spirit

tuomas playing 90s eurohouse the other day interrupting an hour of indie-prog and noise was awes

A lot of the avant classical and noise pieces are very long -- I can see going with shorter stuff in the main room.

that's exactly the idea yeah....quite a few 20m+ tracks in tbrr (which is necessary for some genres)

you mentioned the Pan Sonic/Merzbow track upthread, that's an hour long -- nobody would sit still for that in ILXOR

downforeveryoneorjustme.com?

no.....forks u should add this to the first post

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://listeningroom.fettig.net/

well right the page loads; no music though. just me huh?

yeah...both rooms seem to be ok

I guess I can understand the hour-long thing, though at quiet times it wouldn't be a problem. I just want some avant bros in the main room too.

lukas i got the same dilly

+1 for 1 room chaos reign mode

"are my high-bitrate mp3s too much for your adorable little internet connection? terribly sorry."

tuomas playing 90s eurohouse the other day interrupting an hour of indie-prog and noise was awes

― flopson fauxhawk (nakhchivan), Saturday, 22 January 2011 00:10 (58 minutes ago)

jam and spoon feat pravka iirc - awesome it was too

going to bed now but will be all over this shit come sunday when i finish a major project

tristan murail was great nakh - ty for introducing

oh and to add - nakh and i typed and sent the words 'this is cheering me up tuomas' within abt 0.3 seconds of each other in response to jam and spoon

the magic of fettig

Is Chrome any better than Firefox for this. I keeps cutting out or freezing on me and it fucks up my other tabs as well.

firefox been pretty rubbish for me too. used safari for a couple of hours without any trouble. no idea about chrome tho.

chrome will stop it fucking up your other tabs at least

http://listeningroom.fettig.net/room/swag/

if urs aint workin check this out

Yes, I'm still losing bits of tracks and things but Chrome running tabs as separate processes is helping keep everything else afloat.

xpost

Chrome works best for me too.

I haven't had any problems using Safari for Windows fwiw.

I can't get this site to work of Firefox anymore. The record player just sits there limp and I can't hear or see any tunes or users. But it works fine on Chrome, I wonder why's that? I didn't change any settings on Firefox.

I had that problem last night with Firefox - had to keep refreshing the page when it got stuck between tracks - but it seems to be working OK for me now.

btw the track you uploaded is playing right now

Yeah, I'm using Chrome now, but hopefully I'll get this to work in FF again.

Working much, much better in Chrome.

Using it now in FF with no hiccups

Still not working for me in FF, no matter how much I try to reaload it.

I like all of the obscure soul music! Does it pick out names at random, or did someone make them up?

They're default auto-assigned names, which you can then amend.

lots of people in atm, doesn't seem to be many uploading

I think it's stopped removing names when people leave. That list is everyone who's come in in the last couple of days. Several names on the list multiple times.

This is seems to be indeed working better on Chrome. Not many glitches during the last few hours. Or maybe the whole site just works better now?

does the choppy playback happen w/ chrome/safari/etc or ust ffx?

~just~

anything up and going?

There was a server reboot of sorts in the past 3 hours.

I'm keen for some room listening.

gonna be in the room 'gun-sounds'

live and spinning:
http://listeningroom.fettig.net/room/ILXOR

no audio, gonna download firefox and see if that works

it's working on firefox for me

chrome too

a couple of great tracks in a row here

CONFETTI BURNING MY SOUL

playing sappy and not so sappy love songs from a mp3 mix my lady gave me last year

Playing a bunch of stuff everyone knows for a Sunday morning.

Fuck I should be on local radio

ILXOR is open for business yo.

seems to be playing well today

was down about an hour ago, back up now

it's not loading for me

jinxclovetofu

i think i DID jinx it

but it's working again now

there's an ILXOR and an ilxor room -- more going on in the all caps

now's a good time to add stuff to the queue. enjoy it while it's up.

get in here y'all!

mornin', welcome to the seventh hour of our barclay james harvest marathon.

umm .. which room, the ILXOR is showing as empty today ?

yeah, its empty for me too. or just not working?

ILXOR is going on right now.

sometimes it does that, keep trying, there are peeps in here

refreshed like a million times and still nothing.

in caps?

just from the link on thread

when that's happened to me I've given up and come back maybe 5/10 mins later and it seems to work, this locking out malarkey is def a new thing

in chrome, all i had to do was use the 'reload' option and the problem was solved.

well it did work. seems to have gone pop again.
poor abe.
must be seriously overwhelmed with the demand.

Which is the reload option? I'm seeing no-one and nothing.

there is no "reload option" just refresh the page

chrome : right mouse click on page > reload

suspect its just a standard refresh - but i think you can be specific on the webpage area (i.e. for pages with frames)

forks wanted some metal but others might not like it so the mordys metal club thread have started http://listeningroom.fettig.net/room/ILXMETALCLUB/ all welcome to join and play some good metal/rawk

it seems to be working now everyone

The ILXOR room is working nicely at the moment.

Kicking off again...

I'm in playing if anyone would care to join

blargh, down again.

owait it's up

We're having a sad party.

;_;

has the errors finally got in the nerves of us all? All rooms are empty.

I've been trying to use it but it seems to be down - can't add any tracks.

It's locking me out too, maybe Abe is tinkering.

seems like the cracks are beginning to show :

I had to take LR down for maintenance for the next couple of days. So many users that it wasn't working well for anyone. Back on Friday!

what will I do until then!?

back to itunes i guess
watch this space

...nothing's happening

okay stop watching this space for awhile

There's always mixapp for the non-facebook-averse.

Hopefully when it's back it will have ironed the bugs out, I wasn't able to get it to work in firefox most of the time. Chrome was ok.

I've had an idea which any keen programmer can have gratis. Mp3roulette, being able randomly listen to what another person is listening too.

Given how ChatRoulette ended up, it'll be the sound of a thousand perverts beating off.

i'm trying mixapp here:

http://mixapp.com/#r=5095rrYPVb

i like how you can use youtube

Yeah Mixapp's certainly a viable stand-in.

anyone up? just started mixapping some namlook ambient.

That's too bad, the spinning records were super cute and there was good music in there!

http://listeningroom.fettig.net/turntable.png

fully support this image turning into a common easily recognisable icon.

Mixapp would otherwise be fine, but you can't login without having a Facebook account and giving it access to your personal info, and I don't really want to do that. When it gives you the chance to register without FB being involved, then I might join.

Yeah you need to trust that they won't do anything evil with your Facebook data. I completely understand people not being willing to do that. It does work well though.

For those of you who haven't seen the room, the little record player spins and uses the artwork from your mp3, like a little picture disc spinning. The rooms have a cozy vibe about them, not so with the more generic mixapp.

xp
Your Face Will Soon Be In Facebook Ads

This is an issue with every app though - I distrust Mattel 5000 times more than Mixapp but I still play Facebook Scrabble sometimes.

those new seandalai dolls the kids are fighting over do seem kinda unsettling

http://fettig.net/weblog/2011/01/29/the-future-of-listening-room/

The future of Listening Room

I took Listening Room temporarily offline on Tuesday in the face of traffic that was growing faster than my ability to scale, and resulting in a bad experience for everyone. My plan was to make some improvements and bring it back up today. But once I had some time to think about it, I realized that my first priority really needed to be resolving the licensing and copyright issues around Listening Room.

Listening Room is not a tool for pirating music. It’s designed to be able to share music with other people without sharing files with them – they get a chance to hear stuff they don’t own, and then if they like it they can buy their own copy. So I don’t think it’s any kind of threat to the music industry, and I haven’t had anyone in the music industry contact me to complain, much less make legal threats.

That said, the fact is that Listening Room involves streaming music over the Internet, and according to US copyright laws you need additional permission from the copyright holder to do that. There are ways to try to avoid this issue, including operating under the DMCA safe harbor provision and pretending/hoping there’s no copyrighted material on your service until a copyright holder notifies you of a violation. But I believe the right thing to do here is to respect the spirit of the law, and figure out a way to pay the copyright owners for the right to “perform” (as they say in the copyright laws) their works by streaming them online.

My company, Sleeper Industries, is a one-man operation, and I certainly don’t have the legal and financial resources to negotiate agreements with all the record labels. Fortunately, there’s another option: Listening Room can operate under existing agreements for Internet radio broadcasting. This is called ’statutory licensing’, because it’s determined by law – the same rules apply to everyone. I keep track of all the songs getting streamed, and pay the standard rates to licensing agencies. Copyright holders get paid, and Listening Room can operate without any fear of getting shut down. Yay!

There are a couple of catches, though. First, the law defines certain requirements that services must meet to qualify for statutory licensing, and Listening Room will have to be modified slightly to meet these requirements. There are limitations on how many times you can play songs from the same artist or album within a short time period (this is called the “performance complement” – do a Google search if you’d like the details). I don’t think this will be a problem for the vast majority of rooms, which thrive on variety. But if you were planning to use Listening Room to play an entire album for a friend, I’m afraid it won’t be possible. (One side note here: If you’re an independent artist or label using LR to broadcast music for which you own the copyright, you won’t be bound by these restrictions). A second, and potentially more problematic issue for Listening Room, is that you’re not allowed to publish a schedule of exactly when a song or artist is going to be played. Honoring this will require changing the Listening Room queue UI a bit. I have a couple of ideas about how to do this without compromising the flavor of Listening Room. (As to why this is a requirement, I can only assume it has to do with people using analog recording devices to record a song off the air, which these days seems kind of silly).

Paying these licensing fees will also make Listening Room more expensive to run, and makes it all the more necessary for me to make it bring in money. I’ve been thinking about this a lot, and come up with a solution that I think will work: the jukebox model (many thanks to John Dismore for suggesting this). It will work like this: Before music can play in a room, the room will need song credits. Song credits come from users, who buy them and then contribute them to the room, or from sponsors, who can pay for a room’s song credits in exchange for the room running a small ad. A song credit covers the costs of playing the song for everyone in the room. So, for example, if you have 10 people in a room and everybody kicks in one credit, you can all listen to 10 songs. I’m still working on the exact figures, but each song credit will only cost a few cents. It’s super inexpensive, and I think the fact that people are paying for the entire room to hear a song is a good fit for the social vibe of Listening Room.

So now we’ve got licensing in place, and a business model that makes Listening Room financially viable in the long haul. Things are looking up! But there’s actually one more hurdle, and it’s a big one.

There’s a quirk to internet radio licensing: you have to prepay $500 in streaming fees for each “channel” your service provides, up to the first 100 channels. Of course, in Listening Room there will be more than 100 rooms created the first day I have it back online. Which means my first monthly licensing bill is going to be a whopping 50 grand. On the plus side, that $50,000 applies toward the total yearly bill, so it’s really just prepaying fees that would have been due anyway. But having to pay that much up front, before I have any money coming in, is a problem.

So this is where I turn to you, the Listening Room community. I’m going to have a fundraiser, starting next week, to raise $50,000 to pay the initial licensing costs for Listening Room. I’m not asking for straight-up donations – instead, I’m going to ask people to prepay for blocks of song credits. You’ll basically be buying a big roll of quarters (except they’ll be a lot less than a quarter each) that you’ll be able to use to power your Listening Room jukebox. And I’ll have some discounts and special gifts to throw in too.

$50,000 is a lot of money to raise. But I’m feeling optimistic about it. I’ve been completely amazed at the passion, creativity, and enthusiasm of the Listening Room community so far. I think I’d be underestimating you all if I said it was impossible. Let’s see what happens.

More details to follow. I’m hoping to host this on Kickstarter, but haven’t gotten it all worked out yet.

Thanks for your support, everyone.

Posted on Saturday, January 29th, 2011 at 1:32 am.

fun while it lasted

yep. As fun as it ended up being (and it WAS fun), I just don't see myself needing to be there so badly that I feel any urge to pay for it.

it was fun but buggy and in no way was going to last very long, tho i'm surprised it took less than a month for this all to go down

how long was muxtape around in all its glory

five months maybe? but there were ways to download songs from muxtape, and that probably sped up its demise. listening room has proven to be locked down tight in that regard.

He'd have been better looking for an investor than going for $50k up-front in donations from a listening community who tuned in for something fun and free. I think the concept would have a good future with the right business model in place.

There's no way he'll get 50k from donations. Site hasn't been around long enough to amass that much of an audience or create any sort of emotional connection. I don't remember the average number of people that do donate but he'd need to get around 5 to 8 times the number of visitors to get the donation he needs. And that's considering that the 1/5 of your visitors really felt in touch with your product. I seriously doubt he had 250,000 unique visitors.

I'd be very surprised if he gets the money from donations. That's the problem with going the micropayments route. Website owners see that they're getting however many visitors and start thinking "oh if we start a micropayment system for content we can cover the running costs of the site!". But then 95% of visitors say "err no thanks bye!" and disappear.

Also 50k seems way off. I know he needs to pay license and stuff but he could just copy the grooveshark model where they settle only with the labels that get in contact with them for a 50% share of the ad revenue (
http://artists.grooveshark.com/support/masters ). No need to go the micropayments route. And even then, this is way easier to do than grooveshark or spotify for the matter where the songs are always online for you to pick. In listening room as soon as the song gets streamed it dissapears from their users' hands.

I think he's just too paranoid and off reality to pull this sort of site. He needs real internet legal advice. Seems he only has notion of how it works and its completely off.

I mean this is how it should really work. Legal in the same way that youtube or grooveshark is legal. They are not responsible for the uploaded content and have to take it down if they receive a DMCA notice. Even then they work hard to stay legal and settle with the artists or labels before any DMCA:

We strongly suggest that you contact us at licensing (at) grooveshark (dot) com before filing a DMCA infringement claim. Grooveshark has an artists/label program to ensure that any owner of content will be compensated fairly for each time their content is played via Grooveshark. To be clear, as long as your infringement claim complies with the terms of the DMCA we will honor it, however we would much rather pay you than remove your content.

I don't know, it sounds less like paranoia and more like wanting to do the right thing. Which is honourable, but most likely to end in failure.

And yeah, it's a shame but I liked it for the 'fun and free' aspect - I don't really need the service, and won't pay for it.

There's a quirk to internet radio licensing: you have to prepay $500 in streaming fees for each "channel" your service provides, up to the first 100 channels.

I wonder how last.fm gets round this? I mean, presumably they are not paying $500 for every possible artist radio, user radio, neighbourhood radio, possible combination of tags radio... so there must be some other licensing models out there if you can argue your case.

Sort of feel Listening Room might have more luck if he tried to sell the model to last.fm or Spotify or someone similar but I guess you need to have a proven system and a proven fanbase in place and then sell it, otherwise they'll just go "hm, nah" and then maybe happen to implement something similar without you, maybe not.

(And you'd need to rejig it a bit to fit in with last.fm/Pandora-style licensing, which I guess only works on the guarantee that you can't fix what song will be played when, as above)

i agree with onimo and think he needs to find an investor rather than trying to put the weight of a young enterprise on the back of the audience.

I had no idea that many people were using it!!

Seems clear Abe just thought this thing up as a fun experiment and never expected to be in this situation. I fear that cobbling together a serious business plan at the last minute may not work out for him.

For all their shiny-interface Facebook-linking sins, the Mixapp guys seem to have thought things through and have a clear idea of where they want to get to (a buyout).

Spotify people: time for another collaborative playlist? I've added a few starter tracks...

http://open.spotify.com/user/miketd/playlist/1VYiyGaPHrDzTWeovieeAL

I miss Listening Room. So what're the ilxors who used to use it doing now? Using the one which needs a Facebook login? Using collaborative playlists on Spotify? None of the above?

i'm working.

Ha.

I know. So am I. That's why I miss it so much.

well, given that i'm blocked from FB and spotify during work hours, its back to my own archive for not-so random treats now.

For anyone who hasn't read it, this is Mixapp's explanation for using Facebook

Why do I have to log in with a Facebook account?

Requiring Facebook was ultimately an issue of limited resources on our part. We needed a way to integrate social networking functionality quickly and easily, and for the many, many people who use Facebook regularly, a Facebook-based account provided the functionality we needed with relatively little software development effort — so we see this as the best way to grow the MixApp community while we're getting off the ground.

To be sure, nothing is set in stone, and in the future we expect to integrate with Twitter, OpenID, OAuth, OpenSocial, and every other single sign on or social graph system with enough traction to make sense. However, given MixApp's friend-based nature this is a non-trivial development task compared to the simplicity of the Facebook-only setup, and for now we need to focus on more immediate goals.

If Facebook is a non-starter for you, we want you to know that we, too, have concerns about Facebook's attitude towards privacy and control, and we're looking forward to having the resources we need to give you a choice on this front. If you'd like to know when we have a non-Facebook login option, please let us know, and we'll shoot you an email when we do. Until then, we very much appreciate your patience as we try to get MixApp off the ground.

It really doesn't make much sense, as OpenID is just about the easiest thing to integrate into a site as exists on the web (most of the time it will just install itself as a plugin). They're clearly looking to monetize Mixapp and aligning themselves with Facebook users is the fastest way to get there.

Can't really blame them for looking to monetize Mixapp imo...the case of Listening Room shows what happens when you don't have any business plan.

abe fettig is like a name from a theodore dreiser novel, though i haven't read any of those

sort yr shit out sonnn

really do miss this

cool, new beta next week

sign up yall

need a twitter account for the beta. really easy to set up a dummy twitter account tho.

Signed up!

http://www.sport.co.uk/public/ph_signup_amirkhan_4.JPG

I'm there. Left this comment:

Seriously consider a payment system (or payment option) based not on micropayments, but on allowing users to "rent" access to a room for a day. Perhaps that day's sponsor would have the ability to post a headline (even headline graphic), drag-and-drop songs in the queue, or kick unwelcome guests.

why? you can start as many rooms as you want

Fettig wants to move to a micropayments system by users to pay broadcast royalties to stay legal, a bit like a coin-operated jukebox. I'm just pointing out that I'd be happy to throw a PayPal payment his way to sponsor a once-a-week ILXor shindig, rather than expect everyone present to scrounge for quarters to contribute.

At the moment though he's hoping to run the service off ads though: http://fettig.net/weblog/2011/02/09/good-news-for-listening-room/

idk

i don't know if we should be -- or are -- 'in it for the long haul' but a beta lisnin room that doesn't fuck up so much will do for the time being until some enterprising ppl rent serverspace in tajikistan and write a decent gui

the ilxor room was anything goes, nobody was abusing it afaict.....i'd rather go to a separate room for noisy arcana that throw $5 at it so tuomas has to listen to florian hecker for twenty minutes

http://blissout.blogspot.com/2006_06_01_blissout_archive.html#114962055324130149

that=than

I liked the unpredictable all-inclusive aspect of ILXOR, though obv if you want to throw on your hour-long Merzbow odysseys you need something like tbrr (and it facilitates two-rooms-at-once awesomeness).

right

i like most of sanpaku's stuff

the idea of buying privileges works on slsk because it isn't seen to diminish the rights of nonpayers

The "features" I suggested weren't so much for the ILX community, as we seem open-minded. Just ideas that might make a payment system viable in general if ad sponsorship (hooray) doesn't pay the bills. A turntable dictator would find herself playing to an empty room...

just spent an hour talking with abe
the new beta launches sometime next week
sounds like he's got lots of good ideas and directions for Listening Room and he's aiming at keeping the service scalable and legal and up for the long haul
pretty excited.

Couldn't you guys do this with a program like go-to-meeting or something?

ffs

cmon fettig

# There are a couple of issues holding up the LR beta. Won't be too much longer though. Thanks for your patience everyone! about 12 hours ago via web

# Working late on Listening Room tonight, getting ready to start the beta tomorrow. It's going to feel great to having people using LR again. 12:00 AM Feb 23rd via web

wtf come on abe!

just spoke with him yesterday; it's coming and it's coming shortly.

Yeah c'mon Fettig if that is indeed yr real name you ingenious bastard.

http://www.ianhayse.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/underconstructionanimat.gif

It's up, but you have to sign in with your twitter account now I guess? Not sure what they do if you don't have a twitter account.

http://listeningroom.net/room/ILXOR

http://meowcheese.com/files/lolpics/2008/04/yay-its-caturday.jpg

Buggy as hell right now. Didn't notice that when I was the only one in the room, but if several people are playing songs it becomes problematic.

Oh man, it's as buggy as all shit. It seems at the moment if you load a track it will start playing then when the next track in line is finished uploading it starts playing right away instead of queueing.

Oh hey :) XP

messing with this now; same issues y'all are having. but join me if you can
http://listeningroom.net/room/ILXOR/#

except now it doesn't seem to be working at all.

Not much going on at the moment? I guess it's for the best - I really ought to be working...

It may be up.

I've played 3 songs in a row without too many glitches.

http://listeningroom.net/room/ILXOR/

Well, maybe not. Seems to be hanging on uploads still.

So you have to have "Twitter" account to log in now? Why can't these sites just have their own login instead of forcing you to register to some other site?

Because cross-site logins are the wave of the future!

(Actually, it's just an easy way to target advertising.)

I managed to upload a track, which is more than I could do last week...

It seems to be working okay this morning if anyones about, playing some Japanese music today.

waiting to get all clear to use the beta.
sent off the request yesterday, but not heard back.
[unless you can get in without clearance ? ]

I imagine you can log in with Twitter still, try going in here http://sleeperindustries.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2dda1a10721e02bb3df5fe954&id=7712804e32&e=ab22fec605

"Sorry, marke23, your account hasn't been added to the Listening Room private beta yet. If you've already signed up you should get an email soon when your account is activated. If you haven't signed up, fill out the signup form - it only takes a few seconds!"

i'm not paranoid.

Hmm, that's kinda annoying that he hasn't had a chance to activate all the signatures yet.

ilxor (in lower case) is up and working
http://listeningroom.net/room/ilxor/

anybody else on and working?

not going to create a twitter acct for this -- when he adds ways to log in I'll check it out again

can't say as i blame you there

If anyone's around, got a Monday Sakamoto playlist on the go at ILXOR and it seems to be working.

Cheer me up. I've got disaster fatigue.

i'm on.

I don't see anyone? I'm at work so I can't add any music...

We're in http://listeningroom.net/room/ILXOR#

Oh, there's an uppercase room and a lowercase room? The lowercase is where it's at: http://listeningroom.net/room/ilxor/

Working on ILXOR if anybody is around and wants to hear Mantronix

..or Van Der Graff Generator

I'm on.

I managed to sign in to this, but is there a difference between "ilxor" and "ILXOR", or are they the same room? Both look empty at the moment...

How the heck do you upload songs in the new Listening Room? I don't see an upload button anywhere.

the +record

The what? I don't see anything like that on the screen...

Finally got my confirmation in the mail but can't figure this out. The only song I've listened to so far is the one which I uploaded... nothing else seems clickable.

I can't even upload one song! Are other people supposed to be in the ILXOR room? I can't see anyone, or hear anything. Looks like it isn't working for me.

Maybe the concept itself confuses me... do we have to be online at the same time in order to listen?

Uploading just requires you click on the record icon with the "+" sign on your left hand side. And apparently is the only thing I actually can click.

ok guess so - whoever just uploaded japanese hip-hop, i'm hearing it

Okay, I figured it out. Looks like this version doesn't work on Firefox, just like the previous one didn't. I switched to Chrome, and now I can see the "+" button and upload songs.

I have no idea why it doesn't work on FF though. If I open it there I can't see the upload button, or any other users, nor hear anything. Kinda irritating.

(x-post)

Lol, it's Finnish.

The new version seems to be working quite well, no bugs so far.

it's still buggy, one occasional glitch is when it just stops between songs, then everyone has to remove their queued tracka and reupload to kick it back to life.

*tracks* obv tsk

Seems to be working fine now, but I'm alone in the ILXOR room. :(

Playing Alice Coltrane and Nate Dogg.

joining u

"ILXOR" isn't working, but lowercase "ilxor" is.

Attempting to subvert Monday morning bleargh feeling with with a tremendous Boredoms recording from Melbourne in October last year.

http://listeningroom.net/room/BORE

Quick bump in-case anybody is around.

There's an alternative here:

http://www.mumuplayer.com

It is limited to 5 listeners per room.

This is pretty nice. Essentially the same as the original Listening Room, but even more bare bones.

http://outloud.fm/ILXORS

(requires either a Facebook or twitter login)

He's reopening listening room in two weeks.

Listening Room has become needlessly graphics-heavy, though. Bad move imo.

So far, Outloud is A++.

working good atm
http://listeningroom.net/room/ILXOR

you guys should really stop by there; I made an ILX ad and everything.

I was in the main Outloud.fm room pretty much from the original post until about two hours ago and it never went down and everything flowed smoothly and I didn't have to look at a bunch of c0rny graphics like little records and a useless turntable.

Outta here.

Listening Room's out. I don't tweet.

yeah he needs to change that

From the http://outloud.fm/ILXORS twitter sign-in

This application will be able to:

Read Tweets from your timeline.
See who you follow, and follow new people.
Update your profile.
Post Tweets on your behalf.

That kind of thing just drives me to the Back button.

People are seriously going to let an app from someone they don't know decide to follow new people, change their profiles and post tweets just to listen to some tunes?

I think all things that agree to link up with twitter make those concessions, but on their own login page they state "We will NEVER publish to your account feed without you explicitly choosing to do so."

Right now it's just two guys and some helper monkeys, so you should probably ask them about it if you're really that spooked.

http://outloud.fm/static/about.html
http://twitter.com/mpobrien ← this dude was around almost all day yesterday.
http://twitter.com/HeafLedger

I just posed this to them:

@outloudfm Friends are spooked by the permissions granted with twitter login: See who you follow, and follow new people/Update your profile
@outloudfm Maybe you could make the app read-only instead of read and write?

Thanks Johnny - I realise these clauses are pretty much standard but I don't like that blanket granting of permission that seems to be everywhere these days. Have you ever seen the crap a mobile phone app asks for?

Have you ever seen the crap a mobile phone app asks for?

lol my phone is ancient and pretty much just a phone.

Yes, thanks for doing that - would definitely like to go back to one of these things but all that permissiveness does give me the major creeps.

Okay, both twitter and fb logins are now read-only on their end. No more crazy permissions being handed over.

You're welcome! ;)

yeah, listening room is moving to a non-twitter/facebook method as well.

Hangin' out: http://outloud.fm/ILXORS

Looks cool, but I loved the Euro flavor of the old room, with its little turntable spinning. A nice tribute to the old days of cover art.

The turntable itself in the og Listening Room was a cool idea, but all the records (big ones and little ones) are overkill imo.

Good session. The Pinhas/Merzbow > Nazz segue was a surprise treat.

Yeah, that was sublime.

So, I'm giving this Outloud thing a try, anyone else out there?

Seems to be working much better than Listening Room, great!

Still rolling with good tunes tonight if anybody is around.

It's bumpin' now!

Doom over the world!

Lots of Electric Guitars this evening...

outloud is brilliant, been using it for the entire day

Didn't have the opportunity to drop in yesterday. When did they add thumbnail art to the activity feed? I like it. Aesthetically nice but still not cluttery.

humph.
tried it. but wonder if my net admins have blocked audio streaming as i can never hear anything.
have tried IE/chrome/FF and the results are the same.

It must be on your end, because I've heard both tracks you uploaded.

Or maybe your soundcard is fried?

soundcard is rocking out to windoze player gubbins without issue .. but you will be right. tis my end and/or net admins.

Just in case it changes or whatever, here's what it currently looks like:

http://i.imgur.com/1oags.jpg

Tighten up the logo and maybe play with the color scheme slightly and I think they've finally got it right.

oooh .. i never see the waveform .. nor the record art.
so it could be a browser plugin/permission issue.

This looks very interesting! Do I need a FB or Twitter account to participate in this? I got rid of both a while ago, but can I just make a new twitter-account and join in? Is it invite only? I don't have any experience with this.

Also, Johnny: Sent you a friend-req, spotted your alias in your screenshot :)

last.fm friend-req that is

yeah, fb or twitter login is needed. several people here have created dummy twitter accounts to use it, though.

will accept.

re: turntable.fm

Can't remember if it was mentioned here or not, but I just posted this in another place and thought I'd reiterate here.

I've played around on turntable.fm a little bit and, while it has some cool aspects, it turns the experience into more of a contest or game than I'm comfortable with. I'd rather just hang with people I know and play tunes instead of voting things up or down. Also, the chat portion of turntable.fm is deemphasized in favor of some totally dumb "virtual club" setting which looks like an 8 year-old's video game. No thanks.

New Outloud layout is cool.

Bumping

There's an imminent mathrock->catrock segue for those who are brave...

Can't get on at the moment, but I'm intrigued by 'catrock'...

we're still trying to work out what it means...

Songs featuring a cat meowing.

(I suppose I should get a twitter account just for this thing)

22:15OhNoItsReallyHi:did you tell emily its cats wearing ties & capes?

Still going folks...

this is cool

c'mon in for some funk y'all

http://outloud.fm/ILXORS

^ listening, and it sounds great.

tried different logons but still can't type msgs and the track title doesn't update

Tried using Chrome Nakh? Bumping also.

For anyone who was scared off earlier, the metal is over (honest).

lol

i liked that khmer track

Do any of these listening room services have an Android app yet?

ok just starting a hangover thursday set

Morning session starting on Outloud

Nobody in now?

I just left, sorry...

confirmed.
when not connected to work network, this outloud thing works like a treat, when connected to work network, nada.
clearly the net admins have blocked the audio streaming.
probably for the best, otherwise i'd get hooked and never do any work.

okay never heard of Phew before so whoever just dropped that track thank you

:)

As work blocks a) audio streaming and b) Twitter, and as the streaming doesn't work on my iPhone, I have to confine my listening to leisure hours. :-(

Bumping again.

Well I seem to be Dr Bump but it would be nice to have more people if anyone is interested.

The queue is short! Get in heeeeere.

Bump bump bump.

we <3 u, forks. come play!

ah, i'm jammed with work, but will work my way in there afore too long.

hooray!

link reminder for anyone else: http://outloud.fm/ILXORS

Laid my hand on the Villalobos ECM remix thingy today, thrown some of it up

Kerr needs company :)

playing a bit of dub, a bit of jungle, a bit of horrible noise

from the public room:

17:51 mpobrien: oh man im on outloud on my android phone right now
17:51 mpobrien: it workssss

Bugs by Pearl Jam comin' up, don't miss out Yo

Bumping for a "morning" set, easing you into your Saturday...

Bumping for an early evening 'pre-club' mellow jazz boner

tried different logons but still can't type msgs and the track title doesn't update

bumping for Algerian Goalkeeper's punk night

This is working fine for me. I use firefox exclusively

http://outloud.fm/ILXORS

hoy listen up now

judee sill romanthony fabre duroseau chez damier gus viseur gerd janson

00:06 OhNoItsReallyHi:someone bump ILXOR Listening Room - DJ my day and tell ilx its Gareth Night please ;)

Bump bump ... we're going through a punk retro phase.

Improbable covers night in full swing.

After an uploading hiccup, room appears to be working again.

Somebody come in here and upload music that Kerr hates, plz.

nice try

haha

Bump for 'Chico Batera's Cabana Cocktail'

Bumping for Barry Adamson, Neu, Politicians, Paul Simon etc etc

It's BEAR HOUR!

Apologies to those who were chased off a bit ago. I played the sucker and let Kerr push my buttons and I should've known better, really. The last thing I want is for the ILXORS room to be an unstable environment. It should be fun and vibrant and, most of all, varied.

...and that was the crux of my argument. If you have a single person uploading two tracks, of ANY genre, that go on for an accumulated 26 minutes (or thereabouts) it really throws a wrench in the works. A simple "hey, would you all be interested in hearing ________?" is all anyone really needs to do before uploading something that's really REALLY long. Otherwise, go nuts.

Hey, how do I shot this?

This reminds me of Picklefish, the pizza joint in downtown Mobile where somebody at night would invariably put Beck's "Debra" on the jukebox, which included about 18 minutes of silence before the pointless bonus track.

I wasn't chased off, btw, just had to restart my internet connection when it crapped out.

http://outloud.fm/ILXORS

hmmm, do i have to let them access my twitter or fb? cause that ain't gonna happen

just reg another acct

not really. that's just a sticky detail in the permissions, but these two guys who run the place could honestly care less about your twitter or fb account.

the log of the last hour is dispiriting reading

It was not enjoyable for sure.

currently playing a track from the new Motown/Mowest compilation. room warming up but still time to get your selections heard and make fun of kerr.

nevermind. cocksuckers just want to sabotage by uploading stupid shit then leaving the room. waste of time, imo.

Bumping. All is sweetness and harmony.

A few ppl on the outloud now; v mellow vibe as far as this first-time visitor can see.

Tony McPhee for the next five hours... Possibly.

BUMP, as I'm DJ-ing to an empty room...

Almost a handful there now; funk & disco evening in the making, it appears

Yeah, it's mostly funky in there this afternoon...

Has the site gone down?

Main page coming up, but can't log into a room.

can't even get the front page...

oh good, we back.

Still going!

Kerr's still funking and I'm just playing whatever comes to mind. Join us, won't you?

Good day! Sunshine!

FINALLY some good tunes RIGHT THIS SECOND.

where? I don't see anyone in the outloud

Couple of people in there now

Where would you rather be at [insert timezone-appropriate value] on a Sunday?

It is happening again.

yeah, i broke it by accidentally uploading a jpg file. :( i sent 'em an email asking for help.

and got a response back in ~5 minutes. back up!

re: turntable.fm

Can't remember if it was mentioned here or not, but I just posted this in another place and thought I'd reiterate here.

I've played around on turntable.fm a little bit and, while it has some cool aspects, it turns the experience into more of a contest or game than I'm comfortable with. I'd rather just hang with people I know and play tunes instead of voting things up or down. Also, the chat portion of turntable.fm is deemphasized in favor of some totally dumb "virtual club" setting which looks like an 8 year-old's video game. No thanks.

this is all true but I like that it automatically rotates among the room DJs so your tracks are shuffled better

also if you just create a small room and have a few people in there it's just hanging with people you know playing tunes

i.e. you don't have to bother with the voting business

also like that it sends you an email if one of the "DJs" you're "following" logs on

so you can know if any friends are on

Your positives register with me, but I still think the format/layout is really non-conducive to a good time.

it definitely looks corny. the avatars are like Wii characters.

oh yeah forgot I also like that you can search and play tracks from a database. I can't really upload anything from work so I could only use outloud as a listener

Fresh blood?

turntable.fm, front page:

We're very sorry, but while we would love to let you in and rock out with us, we need to currently restrict turntable access to only the United States due to licensing constraints.

We are working very hard to try and get you in as soon as possible.

That settles it, I guess? I think Outloud has worked really nicely, with few of the problems Listening Room had. It's a pity you have to use you a Twitter/FB account to log in, but you can just create a fake Twitter account like I did. I don't see any need to use another site at the moment.

I'll be around for bit starting...now.

Bump for 4th hour of Zoogz Rift marathon.

Zoogz Rift segueing into alleged experimentalism, catrock revisited, intermittent rain showers and possibly some frogs.

And Motley Crue.

bump.

tirsdagsJAM

It's grungey in here. HALP

night time bump.

that sounds sexual, but it isn't. (or maybe it is.)

Anyone tried this Google+ Hangout thing yet? Apparently you can share YouTube, but also music?

somebody is playing a guitar and making a guitar-face

outloud.fm/ILXORS — it's like Listening Room but not buggy and like turntable.fm but not designed for tweens.

the ~tbrr~ room we did on LR for avantgarde/noise/etc was great for about four days before the software went to shit

id like to do something similar on outloud but the 20mb limit is pretty restrictive on duration and/or quality for a lot of this stuff idk

Do it!