Search and Destroy: Mariah Carey

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You asked, you shall receive - is Mariah a worthless piece of crap, worthy of bringing before the Geneva Crts for crimes against humanity, or should we move north and hang Celine DIon?

― Geoff, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Making dogs' heads explode with her shrill voice -- GUILTY! Casting herself as a 'hip hop diva/prostitute' -- GUILTY! Behaving like a spoiled child and making a genuine ass of herelf -- GUILTY.

― alex in nyc, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Completely worthless, but a marketing triumph. Name another female pop star who is less fun than this one. Zero personality. The only thing she has going is that she's soon going to have more number ones than the Beatles or Elvis.

― Mark, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Can I just ask why people do this to me? I can say, NOT IN ANY WAY ASKING FOR A THREAD TO BE STARTED AS I'D DO IT MYSELF, "Jeez, it's getting to the point where we'll have a That Dog: Classic Or Dud!" and someone will virtually immediately post "That Dog: Classic Or Dud?" Does this work with bands I actually like? Let's try it: "Jeez, it's nearly to the point where we'll have a Search And Destroy: Manic Street Preachers!" and "I really hope there's never, ever a Spiritualized: Classic Or Dud? thread". It just makes me laugh a bit because it's every single time I've done it, and then a few of the FTers blame me :)

Anyhow, if we must: Search: Fantasy Destroy: Mariah Carey.

― Ally, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dear lord. I had to listen to that butchering of "Without You" the other day (that was her, wasn't it?). I shall pretend the question was not asked.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That's because Mariah Carey is way funnier than Spiritualized ! So is That Dog :).

― Patrick, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I liked the one where she was captured by gangsters and spent the video changing outfits and escaping from an island...so search that video! Destroy...her ability to emit a high frequency squeal...I think she could KO the Fantastic Four with that!

― james e l, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That Dog are funny because they're called That Dog. What kind of godawful name is that? It's nearly as bad as The The or The Band or P. Diddy.

― Ally, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

There's a new band called "the Music" I bet they stink.

― james e l, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Search: "Vision Of Love". Call me out of it, but this really is her best single. Best song, best use of her voice, best emotional impact... I get chills just thinking about it.

Destroy: "Dream Lover". Oh, look. Everything detestable about Mariah in one handy package. How convenient.

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm just going to talk about That Dog because thinking about Mariah makes me feel queasy. I only have known of 2 people, ever, who have liked them. One was this really weird girl who would talk about stalking Graham from Blur, and the other one Cannot Be Named. Enough said...

― Nicole, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Why would you stalk Graham when Alex is there? Jeez.

― Ally, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think I have heard one or two of her records, and found them pretty unenjoyable. Don't know this stuff too well, though.

― the pinefox, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I used to like That Dog. I can see them being resurrected in 2025 as a hip cult item, like Shuggie Otis or Lee Hazelwood or something, as a look-how-weird-the-mid-90s were kind of thing.

― Patrick, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Agreed, Alex always looked way better than Graham. I don't like Graham at all. But who are That Dog anyway?

― the pinefox, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Search: Heartbreaker Videos (both), Greatest Hits, early "look" Destroy: Music Box. Midperiod stupid down-home look.

― Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

She had a downhome look ?!?

― Patrick, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i think sterling speaks of the look in the "dream lover" video in which mariah sports a t-shirt, tied in the fashion of midwestern gals, and cut-off jean shorts.

like dan, i'd go with "vision of love" as my search pick. her vocalizing is quite fine on it, i must say, and even though it's in 12/8, it's still a good song. though i wonder if i liked it if it had been done by "mariah carey," if you get me. probably not because the mariah of today, with her millions of dollars, boy toys, and hoopties, has long forgotten what it was like to sing something like she meant it.

― fred solinger, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Search: the Tom Tom club sample on "Fantasy", also "Vision Of Love" is passable.

Destroy: Her boobs. You definitely don't need to SEARCH for those.

― EdwardO, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm surprised by how few of her hits I can hum (despite ample exposure to all). This suggests melodies are generally weak. Ergo, the mega- multi-platinum sales mystify me - how's that done without catchy tunes? (Just marketing?) All the videos (from "Honey" onwards) after leaving Mottola, straightening her hair, hitching her skirt up, getting a boobjob, and growing a booty, are quite spectacular: softcore porn; no complaints.

― AP, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

When I answered this yesterday I was confused. I thought that Mariah Carey was Celine Dion. Today I remembered what Mariah Carey looked like. It's true, she is gorgeous: or she was on this LP I saw with her in a Santa suit. Still don't think I've heard her records, though.

― the pinefox, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Are you sure it wasn't Burl Ives in that Santa suit?

― Nicole, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

four months pass...

I met Mariah back stage one day and fucked her in her ass. She absolutely loved it and asked me to do it to her again after the show. She really does have a small, skinny ass and I wish she would clean it more often.

― dave swade, Wednesday, 5 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Now, that's a post.

― Ally, Wednesday, 5 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

five months pass...

mariah....search: her dignity, you won't find it. destroy: all her personal records so humankind can say she never existed.

was that very harsh?

That Dog; haven't they ceased to exist? don't stalk alex, he's dangerous.

― Fear, Sunday, 17 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I have to thank you for resurrecting this thread if only because I missed the dirty one before.

― Dan Perry, Sunday, 17 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...

Yes. Mariah Carey should definitely be searched and destroyed!

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 11:37 (twenty-two years ago)

....but how can you destroy something that's not alive in the first place?

She should be destroyed if only for showing those monstrosities she calls breasts off at every opportunity.... vile lollopy hanging beasts.

Remind me of my Gran's.......

― russ t, Wednesday, 16 April 2003 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Being physically unattractive doesn't qualify for destruction in itself. If that was the case, then Joni Mitchell would have been the first to destroy.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...

http://photos.friendster.com/photos/59/84/904895/10935452240366l.jpg

― Open your eyes; you can fly! (ex machina), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

Best revive of the day.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

Wow, this is an old one.

wtf are you on about geir, joni mitchell is very attractive!!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

Search and Destroy: Mariah Carey

Sounds like a good idea. Tell me when you find her, and I'll help you destroy her.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

I don't think you can actually destroy things with your penis, Geir.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

emancipation of mimi is wonderful. top 3 for me for sure.

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

With her last album, Mariah Carey has gone from awful (Adult Contemporary) to even worse (contemporary hip-hop-influenced R&B)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)

Jams OTM! & so is Geir, in his "special" way.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 22:03 (twenty years ago)

That bonus track is KILLER.

― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)

Is anything on it as good as her awesome "Funkin 4 Jamaica" "cover" collab-o with Mystikal?

The first single didn't do much for me.

"With her last album, Mariah Carey has gone from awful (Adult Contemporary) to even worse (contemporary hip-hop-influenced R&B)"

Wasn't this true from Butterfly onwards though? I remember "Honey" being the decisive step towards "hip-hop-influenced R&B".

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 01:15 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, & I'm not that familiar w/ those albums post-"Honey", but she usually sticks at least one shitass weepy ballad in the mix. Ain't none of that here - well, balladry, yeah (I think - haven't listened in a while), but the GOOD type.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)

"Honey" didn't have the same kind of über-annoying staccato beat that her current stuff does. Plus the style still left room for a proper melody. I consider "Money" among her more decent moments.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

obv search 'all i want for christmas is you' - it's my favourite christmas song, most years!

― pete b. (pete b.), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)

That Dog?

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

"Search: "Vision Of Love". Call me out of it, but this really is her best single. Best song, best use of her voice, best emotional impact... I get chills just thinking about it."

Dan Perry OTM in 2001.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)

SEARCH: the Def Club remix of "Dreamlover"

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

"stay the night" off of mimi is her greatest song yet. it's a really sad album though -- mariah isn't allowed to be mariah anymore.

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

The video for "Without You" is an utter atrocity - AN UTTER ATROCITY!!! It's the way that she stomps her feet, waves her hands, her face contorted in agony (as if she was having her liver removed without the benefits of anaesthetic) in order to show us just how emotional she feels when she sings. What's almost as bad is the audience response - who holler and applaud and delight in every single vocal inflection (or whatever it is that she does.) Whenever it's on tv i can't help but watch it - even though it's the most toe-curlingly, cringe-inducing thing i've ever seen.

search: Mariah Carey
when you find her: DESTROY! DESTROY! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!

― Neil FC (Neil FC), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

Oh please. She's great. I don't care for the ballads, too mushy mushy, but the rest is ace, including her out of control personality. You gotta a love a woman who apparently "doesn't do stairs" (-> whatever THAT means) and demands puppies so as to appear nicer.

― nathalie doing a soft foot shuffle (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

Several years on, I upgrade "Vision Of Love" to mega-classic status, and remember that "Love Takes Time" wasn't half bad either. I felt sorry for her, she had dead eyes all through her mega-stardom-years...

― edward o (edwardo), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

R&B in general needs to get over this "ballad" thing - bless DC (NOT BEYONCE) & their producers for finding a way to do slow-burnin' songs that don't get stuck in the mud.

&, yeah, to piggyback SS's endorsement of Pope Dang, "Vision of Love" makes her first album.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

David, you mention in your PFM review of "It's Like This" that the song uses the tired "Bacardi/party" rhyme, which has been "kicking around for about five years now" (actually, try fifteen!!) and then you ask "Where's the Asti Spumanti love?"

May I direct you to "Knockin' Boots" by Candyman, in which he decides to "break off a bottle of Asti Spumanti, pop off the top, and rock with my posse."

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

There's a pretty funny piece on Mariah in the Guardian, where she talks about the puppy thing and comes across as pretty likeable.

― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

NICE! Thanks, jaymc!

Yeah, I pulled that "five year" thing out of the buttocks - I'd love to know when it ("Bacardi / party") first popped up, tho.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

Search: Glitter soundtrack, minus perhaps a couple of the ballads.

Destroy: "Hero," "The Beautiful Ones" cover w/ Sisqo

― Eric von H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

R&B's needed to get over ballads for like 30 years. Search "Glitter" the movie, oh man

― Schwip Schwap (schwip schwap), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

why does r&b need to get over ballads?

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

Cos they're boring and noone remembers them and they bring out the worst in the genre whereas fast songs bring out the best (as a rule). That 30 years thing was a stretch, tho.

― Schwip Schwap (schwip schwap), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

Search: Great R&B ballads of the last (let's say) 20 years.

― Eric von H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

That's a long list.

― Lethal Dizzle (djdee2005), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

I draw a blank after Next's "Butta Love."

― Eric von H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

Well, actually that's not true at all, now that I think about it.

― Eric von H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

Since 1985? None?

― Schwip Schwap (schwip schwap), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure there're a lot, but none come to mind which isn't promising

― Schwip Schwap (schwip schwap), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

Just to clarify what I really meant - there's a type of weepy bathetic overinstrumentalized (sic?) (or, worse, overSYNTHstrumentalized) ballad that comes off as a limp & pale copy of the aforementioned great ballads from the last 20 years that I wish wasn't as prevalent (& probably isn't as prevalent as I think).

Most of these ballads I'm bitching about, now that I think about it, are more from R&B-influenced folks (cf. teenypop) than from actual R&B artists (though I'm not sure such a distinction means a damn thing).

Conclusion: I'm full of it; carry on.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

No yr not, I took you to mean that and the genre so needs to get rid of that shit. What "actual RnB artists" are there working/charting today, tho? Any? Isley Bros? Wondering what yr definitions are.

― Schwip Schwap (schwip schwap), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

argh, there's a song from the early 90s that used the "bacardi/party" rhyme, but i can't remember it. fuck.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 21 April 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

I'm wondering that myself - I'd consider Mario's "Let Me Love You" R&B, & as an example of a modern ballad I like. (Kanye's "Slow Jamz", too!) Ginuwine & Musiq, on the other hand, annoy the hell out of me, as does Beyonce's record version of "Dangerously In Love" (tho I liked the version she did on SNL). "DIL" is what I was thinking of when I said "yay DC, boo B" up there - there's a great atypical ballad on the last DC record; maybe it's the last track, I can't recall.

Sorta on-topic (& I swear I've brought this up before): there's a bit during The Kings of Comedy where Steve Harvey goes off on how no one does love songs anymore, & it's all blustery dick-swinging bullshit (my words, not his). & then they put on some Teddy Pendergrass, & most of the people in the crowd stand up, & SH is yelling at people that haven't moved - "STAND THE F*CK UP!" (again, my words) - & he's kicking over the small endtable on stage & the mic stand & he's FEELING IT, lipsynching and swaying, and Spike Lee cuts to women in the audience, clutching their hands to their chest and singing & swaying along. &, yeah, he might have a point, but then love's changed a bit, too, Steve, so the woo you pitch isn't going to be the woo your son or daughter pitches (though it's coming from the same place).

Is "ballad" (musically speaking) a matter of tempo & sound or of subject matter?

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Schwip you clearly don't even LIKE R&B!! For great R&B ballads, how about every Mary J. song ever? LOTS of Mariah, "Dangerously in Love" by Beyonce, "One in a Million" by Aaliyah, etc. You are completely nuts.

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

oh fuck me I forgot Mary J & Aaliyah.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

Oh good that should save me some money! David, just tempo.

― Schwip Schwap (schwip schwap), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Also OMG ROBERT FUCKING KELLY! That's it - I need more sugar.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

boo-hoo-tee

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

"I Believe I Can Fly" was bad enough on its own to put me off a good 10-15 ballads at 16 or whatever I was, I wouldn't bring him up ("Ignition"! Good! NOT A BALLAD! GOOD!)

― Schwip Schwap (schwip schwap), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

in so many ways r&b itself is balladry! ballads are the songs that pull everyone together -- the great unifiers in love, life, pain, etc. sure, the no-tempo ballad is like musical water (see: a majority of toni braxton's singles)(but not all of them!), but they can also be great SONGS just like in any other genre. the aversion to ballads among (GENERALIZATION ALERT!) white R&B/hip-hop listeners comes from being beholden to only the beat, and not considering the lyrics, tone, subject matter that those productions deliver. the bangers are where you lose yourself in a crowd, but the ballads are where you lose yourself in yourself...

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

oh and i think the mary j. remix of "hate it or love it" might be the greatest R&B ballad ever, as i blathered about on the blog today

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

Ok yeah the thing is (see above. Do YOU like "I Believe" etc?) is that SO SO SO SO SO many of the charting rnb ballads're so fucking awful I/WE (THE WHITE LISTENERS) end up w/an unrelenting hate of the whole idea. A good ballad is, to me, prob a bit better than a good FAST number, but when a section of the ballad genre's so cluttered w/shit how can I hear the good stuff? There're LOADS of old rnb ballads I adore. The thing is I don't even notice them AS ballads, they're just songs, just a bit slower than normal. This whole modernish long boring notune warbling thing, all INSPIRATIONAL, fuck it. xpost I'll get someone to dload that for me (if I remember. Is it THAT good it''l give me the faith to listen out for good ballads once more?)

― Schwip Schwap (schwip schwap), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

download each of the individual songs that i have mentioned and your faith will be restored

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

Although that's kinda like dismissing all rock ballads because that "Everything I do" song is such a "modernish long boring notune warbling thing"

― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Yes, it is. See above. Luckily rock's/was an album genre!

― Schwip Schwap (schwip schwap), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

"Luckily rock's/was an album genre!"

Um, OK?

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

It's lucky if you wanna get acclimatised to rock ballads after being inundated w/that Bryan Adams song

― Schwip Schwap (schwip schwap), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

xpost-

yeah the mary j version of "hate it or love it" came on the dancefloor at this hip hop club in Seattle while I was there with my newfound EMP pals and it was lush and pretty damn heart-tuggin' -- a great song . . .

― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

This whole modernish long boring notune warbling thing, all INSPIRATIONAL, fuck it.

I really wish that people would actually have some clue as to what they were talking about before uccumbing to the impluse to say stupid, ignorant bullshit.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

trudat!

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

btw david, "it's like that" isn't the first single from mimi. the first single was "we belong together," which is a GREAT ballad.

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

"we belong together" is the first thing she's done that really sounds like a mariah song to me in a long time. she actually sings (instead of breathes) on it.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

"we belong together" is wonderful. really, blount, track down mimi. it's fantastic.

also, going along with what i wrote on the blog about mimi, "it's like that" isn't even a mariah song -- it's such a mary j track! (the weirdest thing on the disc is jermaine dupri's nelly impersonation on "got your number").

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for assuming I don't have years of experience of this stuff Dan, really, ta v much

― Schwip Schwap (schwip schwap), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

Sorry for not being as into vocal technique as you, what a dope I must be

― Schwip Schwap (schwip schwap), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

Etc etc

― Schwip Schwap (schwip schwap), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

Interesting digression.

the aversion to ballads among (GENERALIZATION ALERT!) white R&B/hip-hop listeners comes from being beholden to only the beat, and not considering the lyrics, tone, subject matter that those productions deliver. the bangers are where you lose yourself in a crowd, but the ballads are where you lose yourself in yourself...

I think this is a good explanation, Jams, but I also think it smacks of injunctions as to how to listen 'correctly' (your generalization point is noted, though!). I'll freely admit to preferring the beat straight up, but I would prefer this most of the time in just about ANYTHING, r'n'b or not. Reflective musical introspection from where I sit more often than not relies on music providing/enabling that mood rather than lyrics, tone etc. Not universally, sure, but consistently and much more often than not for me at least.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

Someone who has had "years of experience" with this type of stuff wouldn't say something as asinine and incorrect as "This whole modernish long boring notune warbling thing, all INSPIRATIONAL" as if groups/artists like Otis Redding, Earth, Wind and Fire, Parliament, Stevie Wonder, Aretha Franklin, Curtis Mayfield, Marvin Gaye, Minnie Ripperton, Donna Summer, Billie Holliday, etc etc etc didn't exist.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

Read the thread

― Schwip Schwap (schwip schwap), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

I am shocked and amazed to learn that I was the first ever post on this thread.

Oh, and Mariah Carey is viscous, foul-smelling stain on the already soiled underwear of vomitous popular culture.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

(And if the music doesn't provide/enable and leaves me bored then there ya go. Random example: I think D'Angelo's way around Them Slowies is great, Mr. Kelly clearly knows what he is doing, Beyonce's on the solo album made me tear my hair out in frustration. If that's the Obvious Rockist White Boy conclusion to be drawn in some people's minds, though, then just gimme the cyanide now since this world has finally gotten too annoying to live in. ;-) )

Um, rather xpostish.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

them slowies?

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

The slow songs of what are slow and balladlike.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

I did read the thread. You're still wrong.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

btw david, "it's like that" isn't the first single from mimi. the first single was "we belong together," which is a GREAT ballad.
-- Jams Murphy (ystrickle...), April 21st, 2005.

I don't understand what you mean at all. "It's Like That" has been all over radio and TV for months and "We Belong Together" is just now starting to get airplay. the latter may have been a teaser single before the former was released but it's currently being treated as the follow-up.

also I love how Eric Roberts has continued his streak of weird video cameos from "Mr. Brightside" into both of the new Mariah vids. she leaves him at the alter in "We Belong Together"!

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

Despite loving all that old shit you named? WOW. How can I get right?

― Schwip Schwap (schwip schwap), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

haha in tribute to saul bellow eric roberts will be performing as moses herzog on mtv the rest of the year

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

He's the new old Kevin Bacon!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

I'm not surprised that "It's Like That" isn't the "official" first single, but: it was the track being previewed on the official website a month or so ago, and it's getting a LOT of radio play, while I've yet to hear "We Belong Together" anywhere.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

That's what I get, tho, when I listen to DJs mixing live, where a ballad isn't going to get ANY play.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

I remember reading that she basically switched the first single a bunch of times at first, "It's Like That" was the 3rd attempt and the one that ultimately took off and got a video and everything.

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

"we belong together" was released as a 12-inch single at least six weeks ago -- way before "it's like that."

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

YOU'RE ALL WRONG - "vision of love" was mariah's first single.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

Huh. I think I first heard "It's Like That" 6 weeks ago! (My timetable w/ singles, tho, is so out of whack, so "6 weeks" might be "3 weeks".) (& I assume that, if I did hear it, it was courtesy of a pre-release leak.)

Hi, Blount!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 21 April 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

gah, semantics. I don't know when "It's Like That" was out on 12" but it's been on the radio to some degree since at least January. in the public mind it's been the lead single, is all I was saying.

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 21 April 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

"A third song from Mariah Carey's upcoming album, The Emancipation of Mimi, has been leaked, only this one has the makings of a radio hit. "It's Like That," featuring Jermaine Dupri, is getting play on urban radio stations in New York, Chicago and Dallas so far, though there's no word yet from Carey's label if this song will eventually be released as a single. ..."

- MTV News, January 4th
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1495306/20050104/story.jhtml

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 21 April 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

say somethin' was the other leaked track.

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 21 April 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

I'd love to know when it ("Bacardi / party") first popped up, tho.

Bingoboys - "How to Dance" maybe??

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 21 April 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

Debuted at #1. And sold 404k. Yeowza.

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 21 April 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

yancey is totally otm about 'We Belong Together'. how amazing! I never expected it to be THAT good. I'm going to track down Mimi asap.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 4 July 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

it's the album of the year. easily.

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Monday, 11 July 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

The needless gesticulation-synchronized melismata during her Live 8 performance made me pine for a flame-spewing meteorite to fall from the heavens, crushing her in a warble-silencing cataclysm.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 11 July 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

alex, i love you, but i thought she was great.

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Monday, 11 July 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

She was much, much, much better on the VMAs than she was on the BET Awards.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 11 July 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

WBT instantly washes out the bad taste left by "It's Like That". Does my heart good to see Mariah on top again.

And yeah, she was fab at Live8 and the VMAs.

― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Monday, 11 July 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

"It's Like That" is pretty great Bill!

I like this whole album a lot. The first time I bought it and listened through I was disappointed, but its grown on me immensely. I just don't understand why the advance I downloaded ages ago had that awesome extra bonus cut "Secret Love" produced by Swizz Beats that was CRUELLY cut from the final tracklist! Damn you!

I also love how the Dupri-Nelly imitation song samples "Just an Illusion" which is my jam.

― deej.., Monday, 11 July 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

that track is pretty good, yeah.

― W i l l (common_person), Monday, 11 July 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

i like Rainbow

― Surmounter, Friday, 12 September 2008 22:49 (sixteen years ago)

how bout that cover of Take a look at me now?

― Surmounter, Friday, 12 September 2008 22:49 (sixteen years ago)

Rainbow and Glitter are the only two albums of hers I can listen to ... major portions of. I guess Butterfly has its moments too.

― Eric H., Saturday, 13 September 2008 01:24 (sixteen years ago)

i did not know you liked rainbow :)

― Surmounter, Saturday, 13 September 2008 01:43 (sixteen years ago)

― peace, love, and ban deeznuts (The Reverend), Saturday, 13 September 2008 01:55 (sixteen years ago)

― Surmounter, Saturday, 13 September 2008 01:56 (sixteen years ago)

http://photos.friendster.com/photos/59/84/904895/10935452240366l.jpg

― peace, love, and ban deeznuts (The Reverend), Saturday, 13 September 2008 01:57 (sixteen years ago)

"Liked" is going a little bit far, but I can corroborate The Rev's story.

― Eric H., Saturday, 13 September 2008 02:29 (sixteen years ago)

haha pasted from upthread

― peace, love, and ban deeznuts (The Reverend), Saturday, 13 September 2008 02:32 (sixteen years ago)

five months pass...

Always be My Baby is the greatest song ever written.

― Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 27 February 2009 00:54 (sixteen years ago)

― peace, love, and ban deeznuts (The Reverend), Saturday, September 13, 2008 1:55 AM (5 months ag

lolololz

― pussy spread like the rainbow (The Brainwasher), Friday, 27 February 2009 00:56 (sixteen years ago)

yeah rev otm

― the powerful claw (J0rdan S.), Friday, 27 February 2009 00:59 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

i'm sorry but i have to say that i am saddened by that, rev.

the whole Butterfly album is worthwhile, very much so.

― surm, Tuesday, 23 June 2009 23:30 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://twitter.com/MariahCarey/status/19813217327

never change, mimi <3 <3 <3

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 29 July 2010 09:34 (fifteen years ago)

Dear lord. I had to listen to that butchering of "Without You" the other day (that was her, wasn't it?). I shall pretend the question was not asked.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, May 2, 2001 1:00 AM (9 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is a really unfortunate statement

― janice (surm), Friday, 30 July 2010 17:55 (fifteen years ago)

Destroy: "Dream Lover". Oh, look. Everything detestable about Mariah in one handy package. How convenient.

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, May 2, 2001 1:00 AM (9 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is also very troubling. one of the great classics.

― janice (surm), Friday, 30 July 2010 17:56 (fifteen years ago)

i should stop now before i get too down on life.

― janice (surm), Friday, 30 July 2010 17:56 (fifteen years ago)

the whole Butterfly album is worthwhile, very much so.

it's the only thing i really like by her but this. "the roof" (song & video) is just the most gorgeous thing eva.

― prolego, Friday, 30 July 2010 18:03 (fifteen years ago)

OMG RIGHT

― janice (surm), Friday, 30 July 2010 18:04 (fifteen years ago)

the roof... i can't even. one night i heard it drifting out of my bedroom when i didn't really know the album well and i was like WAHT IS THIS THING. her voice!!

― janice (surm), Friday, 30 July 2010 18:05 (fifteen years ago)

:( @ top of this thread, :) @ bottom

― peacocks, Friday, 30 July 2010 18:15 (fifteen years ago)

i think the most perfect way to hear "the roof" would be drifting across summer night air from another room or flat

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 30 July 2010 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rV1qmXwmy8&feature=player_embedded

watch it now

― janice (surm), Sunday, 1 August 2010 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

I met Mariah back stage one day and fucked her in her ass. She absolutely loved it and asked me to do it to her again after the show. She really does have a small, skinny ass and I wish she would clean it more often.
― dave swade, Tuesday, September 4, 2001 7:00 PM (10 years ago)

― ilxor, Sunday, 22 April 2012 03:26 (thirteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

http://static.wetpaint.me/network/ROOT/photos/Mariah-1650598034875288361.jpg

fuck yeah mariah carey

― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:05 (twelve years ago)

The Roof is such a jam.

― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 10:21 (twelve years ago)

The beat is totally Shook Ones...

― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 10:29 (twelve years ago)

Surprised I've never heard this before.

― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 10:31 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

i don't like this woman's music at all, but every time i hear the high notes at the end of Emotions i laugh very hard.

― charlie h, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 16:45 (twelve years ago)

i just noticed dave swade's post upthread. A+

― charlie h, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 16:49 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

can ppl post their fav mariah remixes? remixes of mariah songs. there was that awesome house one from last year but i can't remember what it was called... i'm trying to wade through youtubes of others and found this cool junior vasquez one but there's a lot can i get some help

― flopson, Thursday, 25 July 2013 22:13 (twelve years ago)

one year passes...

New single: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da1xoQFE7ts

― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 2 May 2015 21:57 (ten years ago)

jeez her voice sounds so strained in the chorus, dunno if i can get down with this one mariah gurl

― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 2 May 2015 22:30 (ten years ago)

It makes me laugh when she sings the word "infinity" for an infinite amount of time. And that's a ... good thing, I think?

― Norse Jung (Eric H.), Monday, 4 May 2015 17:55 (ten years ago)

i love the voice on the actual "infinity" trills, that head voice is fucking beyond

some of the other vocal production is admittedly kinda off tho

still think the song is kinda beautiful

― surm, Monday, 4 May 2015 17:58 (ten years ago)

Last "dream" is hysterical.

― Norse Jung (Eric H.), Monday, 4 May 2015 17:59 (ten years ago)

The scoop up. I'm in stitches here.

― Norse Jung (Eric H.), Monday, 4 May 2015 18:00 (ten years ago)

omg it is

i know, i actually really love this song even tho some of the vocals are like waht

i repeat tho that the trills are like no other

― surm, Monday, 4 May 2015 18:00 (ten years ago)

seven months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3KOowB4k_k

To anyone that wants to put Mariah Carey down: I will come to your house, and I will fucking kill you. Don't fuck with Mariah Carey, unless you wanna fuck with me (you don't)

― LEGALIZE COCAINE (monster mash), Sunday, 6 December 2015 18:02 (nine years ago)

Gay or straight (I believe it's all on a spectrum), agree with me here, that she was the most beautiful woman in the world in this video. Or, I will castrate you because you're useless anyway.

― LEGALIZE COCAINE (monster mash), Sunday, 6 December 2015 18:04 (nine years ago)

Everything she did down to 'Rainbow' is unfuckwithable. Don't fuck with me today. Today is a Mariah Carey day.

― LEGALIZE COCAINE (monster mash), Sunday, 6 December 2015 18:05 (nine years ago)

LEAVE MARIAH CAREY AND ME ALONE,

― LEGALIZE COCAINE (monster mash), Sunday, 6 December 2015 19:12 (nine years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXQViqx6GMY

I love her so much. All of you guys are assholes for not loving her. I love her so much.

― LEGALIZE COCAINE (monster mash), Sunday, 6 December 2015 19:27 (nine years ago)

I can seriously talk about how much I lLOVE MARIAH CAREY all day, but, I'll not do that. I just wish Surmounter were here.

― LEGALIZE COCAINE (monster mash), Sunday, 6 December 2015 20:12 (nine years ago)

I want to be the ANTI-ALEX IN NYC, because Mariah Carey is wonderful, and I will fucking YELL at people who disagree.

― LEGALIZE COCAINE (monster mash), Sunday, 6 December 2015 21:51 (nine years ago)

Don't worry. I'm here for you. I'm here for Mariah.

― The Reverend, Sunday, 6 December 2015 22:20 (nine years ago)

damn dawg we all love Mariah in here, and I voted for "Ribbon" in that Pazz & Jop poll

― bunny slopes, Monday, 7 December 2015 03:58 (nine years ago)

my jam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjQZkt84zMs

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 December 2015 04:04 (nine years ago)

She is, was and ever shall be ... fucking dreadful.

― Alex in NYC, Monday, 14 December 2015 14:27 (nine years ago)

i'm here monster. nice think piece in the Times the other day.

― surm, Monday, 28 December 2015 00:26 (nine years ago)

two years pass...

Destroy Hero imo.

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 February 2018 02:50 (seven years ago)

two years pass...

ilm had the worst fucking taste I swear

― If you choose too long a name, your new display name will be truncated in (Left), Saturday, 27 June 2020 15:47 (five years ago)

she’s no annie

― If you choose too long a name, your new display name will be truncated in (Left), Saturday, 27 June 2020 15:51 (five years ago)

2020 ilm asked about 2001 ilm:

― OG Honeymoon Ave (morrisp), Saturday, 27 June 2020 17:05 (five years ago)

(gif didn’t load, put a nail in it)

― OG Honeymoon Ave (morrisp), Saturday, 27 June 2020 17:05 (five years ago)

she’s no annie

This is like saying Sally Rooney is no George Eliot.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 June 2020 17:11 (five years ago)

it's fun to watch them come around on her when "we belong together" started smashing

― dyl, Saturday, 27 June 2020 18:14 (five years ago)

big search: memoirs of an imperfect angel; caution

― specific fry such as scampo (||||||||), Saturday, 27 June 2020 18:31 (five years ago)

Caution still sounds marvelous.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 June 2020 18:32 (five years ago)

otm, such a great album

― carin' (map), Saturday, 27 June 2020 18:34 (five years ago)

"a no no" is so much fun

― carin' (map), Saturday, 27 June 2020 18:34 (five years ago)

oh my god, i hadn't seen the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sap-GTtCiU

― carin' (map), Saturday, 27 June 2020 18:40 (five years ago)

three months pass...

No one seems to have brought up the revelation that Mariah secretly wrote, recorded, and sang backing vocals on an alternative rock album in the midst of recording Daydream.

Fun fact: I did an alternative album while I was making Daydream 👀 Just for laughs, but it got me through some dark days. Here's a little of what I wrote about it in #TheMeaningOfMariahCarey 🤟 S/O to my friend Clarissa who performs the lead w/ me as a hidden layer #Chick #TMOMC pic.twitter.com/Re23t5whcd
— Mariah Carey (@MariahCarey) September 27, 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aekQTU_pRaE

― 📺👁️ (peace, man), Monday, 28 September 2020 15:29 (four years ago)

in the least surprising opinion in the history of time I think this rules

― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Monday, 28 September 2020 17:02 (four years ago)

Mariah's now saying there are versions of these tracks where she sings lead.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, 28 September 2020 18:38 (four years ago)

this was on beavis and butthead. probably the best promotion it received.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1pCtaeo3_0

― billstevejim, Monday, 28 September 2020 18:39 (four years ago)

until today obviously

― billstevejim, Monday, 28 September 2020 18:40 (four years ago)

That video’s awful, but the song’s not bad. Has anyone here listened to the full album?

― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 07:02 (four years ago)

(Tried to find a contemporaneous review, but no dice.)

― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 07:06 (four years ago)

not to get all serious but this is a really good example of just how easily a lot of '90s pop-alternative albums fell into the memory hole, regardless of stature or major-label status

― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 07:40 (four years ago)

(that said, it is, uh, findable via the usual means)

― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 07:41 (four years ago)

I wonder how much the single copy on Discogs was going for, prior to Sunday's reveal (it's currently at $350.00).

― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 15:56 (four years ago)

I also wonder how fast that seller scrambled to the computer to adjust the price, LOL

― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 16:23 (four years ago)

That's a new listing but one sold a couple of days ago for a few quid.

― Kieran Arse (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 16:31 (four years ago)

I’ve listened to half of it so far on YouTube, with interest. 1995 alt-rock is dead center of my musical universe, so I’m very well-versed in the milieu. The songs are good, and well-written. Of course it has sort of a generic/anonymous feel, which isn’t surprising.

― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 16:40 (four years ago)

Man, I don't know. Mid-90's alt rock was also very much my cup of tea in those days and I feel like it's pretty unremarkable and not at all surprising that this feel by the wayside with everything else in this vein back then. Which doesn't minimize the "holy shit" factor of Mariah's involvement, but it's not doing a lot for me.

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 16:43 (four years ago)

"fell"

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 16:44 (four years ago)

I really wish I could find a CMJ review on Google books or something.

― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 16:54 (four years ago)

thought this was a really good piece:

https://www.theringer.com/music/2020/9/29/21493233/mariah-carey-unified-theory-the-meaning-of-mariah

― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 16:54 (four years ago)

this was on beavis and butthead. probably the best promotion it received.

Ahh, that's why this song and video seemed so familiar. Not because I necessarily saw it on Beavis and Butthead at the time, but because of my more recent experiences of going down the rabbit hole of watching forgotten music videos that were played on Beavis and Butthead, because "90s Videos Played on Beavis and Butthead" is totally my aesthetic.

― MarkoP, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 17:43 (four years ago)

I feel like that article is trying to make me feel old!

She has transformed from mousy girl-next-door (do you even recognize this version of her from 1993?)

― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 18:06 (four years ago)

xp I actually couldn't find B&B watching Chick on Youtube but it's probably deep in there somewhere.

― billstevejim, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 21:42 (four years ago)

There's so little about this album online (only 4 pages of Google hits if you search chick "someone's ugly daughter" -mariah), you would almost think it's a hoax, if not for the apparent authenticity of some of those hits!

― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 21:55 (four years ago)

Present-day Mariah Carey is in the same category as Bruce Springsteen for me: interviews are often very interesting, zero interest in hearing the music.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 21:55 (four years ago)

xp Like, Sony must have baaaarely released it. I wonder how much radio play "Malibu" got (if any).

The top Amazon review is interesting:

C. Hughes
5.0 out of 5 stars Chick was fun.
Reviewed in the United States on June 17, 2015
Verified Purchase
I loved making this CD- glad (a couple of) people are enjoying it. There is a secret ingredient ;) CDD

― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 22:01 (four years ago)

Can't find it, but wasn't there a thing that went around tumblr (inspired by the rumored existence of this album, I think) about how people who think Kurt Cobain wrote Live Through This are overlooking that it was actually Mariah?

― swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 22:02 (four years ago)

I didn't find anything in Lexis Nexis from before this weekend.

― 📺👁️ (peace, man), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 10:38 (four years ago)

If there had been any knowledge of Mariah's involvement in the Chick album prior to this weekend, the price for it would've gone up a long time ago. This was new news.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 11:54 (four years ago)

Find it impressive she managed to sit on this secret for 25 years.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 12:49 (four years ago)

Found it! (in this old tweet I liked)

this is mine pic.twitter.com/T0WSyfVxTx
— Peyton Thomas (@peytonology) August 6, 2018

Doesn't mention Chick specifically, but I wondered why this news seemed familiar. Not sure what interview is being cited, though.

― swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 18:20 (four years ago)

lol @ that final point

― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 18:26 (four years ago)

My bff has ordered The Meaning Of Mariah and is listening to it as an audiobook rn and says it is completely amazing, that Mariah has gone through some unspeakably insane shit and she retells this stories with an "...awkward! lol" kind of off-handedness that is devastating. He's gonna lend me the hard copy when it arrives and I can't wait

― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 18:35 (four years ago)

I really wish I could find a CMJ review on Google books or something.

― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Tuesday, September 29, 2020 11:54 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Billboard reviewed the single.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ei8SjAHXcAAMrDs?format=png&name=small

― jaymc, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 19:23 (four years ago)

Nice find!! (and pretty on-point blurb)

― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 19:34 (four years ago)

Nice work, jaymc!

― 📺👁️ (peace, man), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 19:51 (four years ago)

I didn't find it! Annie Zaleski posted it on Twitter.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 20:11 (four years ago)

Those cultural refs are perfectly aligned with what bands like Bunnygrunt were singing about that same year ('70s kitsch, cheesy TV, etc.)

― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 20:13 (four years ago)

seven months pass...

Pitchfork talked to a few people about the recording/release of the Chick album: https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/the-story-behind-mariah-careys-secret-90s-alt-rock-album/

― like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Sunday, 23 May 2021 04:04 (four years ago)

three years pass...

i'm pretty spotty with mariah so i had not heard "touch my body" from e=mc2. what an absolute delight that song is!

― spoonman (steve aoki remix) (map), Sunday, 16 February 2025 02:15 (five months ago)

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