ILM 2010 Tracks Poll Ballots/Stats/Banter/Recriminations Thread

Full results are here:

2010 Tracks Poll Results

My ballot

Nachtmystium - No Funeral
Mark McGuire - Brothers (for Matt)
underworld - scribble
Triptykon - Shatter
Oneohtrix Point Never - Pelham Island Road
Oneohtrix Point Never - Where Does Time Go
Woods - Blood Dries Darker
Nina Nastasia - One Way Out
Kvelertak - Mj?d
Kayo Dot - Stained Glass
Isobel Campbell / Mark Lanegan - You Won't Let Me Down Again
Blonde Redhead - Here Sometimes
Autechre - r ess
Underworld - Always Loved a Film
The Bug - Skeng (Autechre Remix)
Diskjokke - Rosenrod
Four Tet - Love Cry
Prins Thomas - Wendy Not Walter
Justin Bieber - U Smile (ambient version)
Floating Points - People's Potential
holy ghost! - say my name
Rangda - Plain of Jars
Lindstrom & Christabelle - Lovesick
Nicolas Jaar - WOUH
Stereolab - Silver Sands (Emperor Machine Mix)

My #1 everyone please check it out and let me know what you think
Nachtmystium - No Funeral

My unweighted ballot:

Big Boi - Shutterbug
Caribou - Sun
CFCF - The River
DJ Nate - Poetry
El Guincho - Bombay
Erykah Badu - Window Seat
Four Tet - Love Cry
Gil Scott-Heron - Me and the Devil
James Blake - Footnotes
Janelle Monae - Tightrope (ft. Big Boi)
Joanna Newsom - Good Intentions Paving Company
Justin Bieber - U Smile (ambient version)
Katy B - Katy on a Mission
Lil B - Age of Information
Lindstrom & Christabelle - Lovesick
Mano Le Tough - Started Running
Nicolas Jaar - WOUH
School of Seven Bells - Windstorm
Scissor Sisters - Invisible Light
Shit Robot - Take Em Up
the-dream - abyss
Trembling Bells & Bonnie Prince Billy - New Year's Eve's The Loneliest Night Of The Year
Woods - Blood Dries Darker
Zinja Hlungwani - N'wagezani My Love
Zola Jesus - Night"

my ranked ballot (placed tracks bolded):

Girl Unit - Wut
The-Dream - Yamaha
Ciara ft. Ludacris - Ride
Kingdom ft. Shyvonne - Mind Reader
Waka Flocka Flame - Hard In Da Paint
Cher Lloyd - Turn My Swag On
Gyptian - Hold Yuh
Jam City - Arpjam
Lady Gaga ft. Beyoncé - Telephone
Nicki Minaj ft. Eminem - Roman's Revenge
Horror Inc - Aurore
Willow Smith - Whip My Hair
Tinie Tempah - Pass Out
Sunny Sweeney - From A Table Away
Kourtney Heart ft. Magnolia Shorty - My Boy
Teairra Mari ft. Mavado - Coins
Nicolas Jaar - A Time For Us
Rich Boy ft. Yelawolf - Go Crazy
Funk Butcher ft. Shea Soul - Pull Me Close
Velour - She Wore Velour
Storm Queen - Look Right Through
Katy B - Katy On A Mission
Creep ft. Romy Madley Croft - Days
White Ring - Ixc999
Yung Humma ft. Flynt Flossy - Lemme Smang It

my tracks ballot -- unranked, songs that didn't go top 77 in bold

Big Boi - Shutterbug
Kanye West - Power
Rick Ross - B.M.F. (Blowin' Money Fast)
Yelawolf - Pop the Trunk
Curren$y - King Kong
The-Dream - Yamaha
Erykah Badu - Out My Mind, Just in Time
Janelle Monae - Cold War
Ciara - Speechless (ft. The-Dream)
Cee-Lo Green - Fuck You
alicia keys - try sleeping with a broken heart
Drake - Shut It Down (ft. The-Dream)
Robyn - Dancing on My Own
Underworld - Always Loved a Film
Lindstrom & Christabelle - Lovesick
The Chemical Brothers - Swoon
Alphabeat - Hole in My Heart
justin bieber - baby (ft. ludacris)
Adam Lambert - Whataya Want from Me
Ke$ha - TiK ToK
Four Tet - Angel Echoes
School of Seven Bells - I L U
Crystal Castles - Not in Love (ft. Robert Smith)
Zola Jesus - Sea Talk
Taylor Swift - Mine

listening to the girl unit song now. never heard it. pretty cool. vocals remind me of t.a.t.u.!

i don't like that ariel pink song at all. blah. that song by the books should be in the ariel pink spot.

saw ariel pink on jimmy fallon and it made me cringe so hard. some people should stay in the studio. or the bedroom. or wherever he makes music.

AG: Given the results my biggest regret is not voting for "Brothers (for Matt)" and getting it into the top 77, but it's not distinct enough from the album in my mind. If "Brain Strom (for Erin)" had been nommed I would have voted for it.

love this girl unit youtube comment:

This is that kinda song I'm listening to at 2 in the morning pulling into a Taco Bell, and you KNOW I'm gonna be hungry

InterpolFL 2 days ago

Haven't saved my ballot, but my number one, Perfume, watch it, got three votes and ended up at #157. Had hoped for a few more votes and a top 100 ranking. With a bit more exposure I think it could have... but what can you do? Asian pop not quite there yet. Second highest song with 3 votes, though.

What's the 'diversity' score thing and why is it one out of only two with 1.00 ?

My ranked ballot, with bolded tracks that didn't place

The Naked and Famous - Young Blood
Scissor Sisters - Invisible Light
Robyn - Dancing on My Own
School of Seven Bells - I L U
Niki & The Dove - Mother Protect
ke$ha - we r who we r
Sky Ferreira - One
Crystal Castles - Not in Love (ft. Robert Smith)
Marina & The Diamonds - Shampain
Rihanna - Rude Boy
Jamie Woon - Night Air
lady gaga - telephone (ft. beyonce)
Kim Ann Foxman - Creature/Faze Action Remix
Kanye West - Power
Ke$ha - TiK ToK
Jazmine Sullivan - Don't Make Me Wait
hot chip - i feel better
Gayngs - Gaudy Side of Town
Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Round and Round
Zola Jesus - Sea Talk
Arcade Fire - Sprawl II
Robyn - Hang With Me
Janelle Monae - Cold War
Jackie Chain - Haze
Gorillaz - Stylo

Unweighted Ballot (ranked tracks bolded)

Patrick Wolf - Time of My Life
Blue Hawaii - Blue Gowns
Arcade Fire - Sprawl II
Sleigh Bells - Rill Rill
Robyn - Dancing on My Own
Joanna Newsom - Good Intentions Paving Company
katy perry - teenage dream
The-Dream - Yamaha
Lil B - Age of Information
cassie - skydiver
Teengirl Fantasy - Dancing in Slow Motion (ft. Shannon Funchess)
alicia keys - try sleeping with a broken heart
Drake - Fireworks (Deadboy Slo Mo House Edit)
Girl Unit - Wut
Ciara - Gimmie Dat
jacques greene - (baby i don't know) what you want
Lady Antebellum - Need You Now
The Tallest Man on Earth - King of Spain
willow smith - whip my hair
Crystal Castles - Not in Love (ft. Robert Smith)
trey songz - bottoms up (ft. nicki minaj)
Jazmine Sullivan - Luv Back
Janelle Monae - Tightrope (ft. Big Boi)
Drake - Shut It Down (ft. The-Dream)
Broken Social Scene - All to All

hey seandalai: for weighted ballots w/ only 15 tracks (& no albums) what would the points awarded been like?

Unweighted ballot (poll placing in parens):

Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Round and Round (3)
Best Coast - Boyfriend (91)
Big Boi - Shutterbug (7)
Caribou - Odessa (44)
Corinne Bailey Rae - Paris Nights New York Mornings (387)
Curren$y - Roasted (ft.Trademark and Young Roddy) (556)
Crystal Castles - Not in Love (ft. Robert Smith) (12)
Deerhunter - Helicopter (148)
Delorean - Grow (256)
El Guincho - Bombay (43)
Erykah Badu - Window Seat (18)
Janelle Monae - Tightrope (ft. Big Boi) (8)
Javiera Mena - Hasta La Verdad (63)
katy perry - teenage dream (16)
Lady Antebellum - Need You Now (53)
lady gaga - telephone (ft. beyonce) (41)
MIA - XXXO (79)
Pantha du Prince - Stick to My Side (ft. Noah Lennox) (321)
Rihanna - Rude Boy (9)
Robyn - Dancing on My Own (6)
Sky Ferreira - One (98)
Sleigh Bells - Rill Rill (13)
The-Dream - Yamaha (4)
Uffie - MCs Can Kiss (315)
Wiz Khalifa - Black and Yellow (35)

could someone send me my ballot?

btw i thought this was a great poll, i think i voted for every song in the top 5, kinda weird how my tastes have been formed by lurking ilx for like 3 months. im not complaining tho. lotta thanks to people making this poll + people posting about awesome songs year round. id post more but i just dont feel like i have a lot to add

It would start at 50 like normal and go down in increments of two. xps

alright i will reveal my ballot this year, it's ranked:

Waka Flocka Flame - Hard In Da Paint
rick ross - super high remix (remix ft. wiz khalifa & curren$y)
Beach House - Zebra
Earl Sweatshirt - Earl
lil boosie - top to the bottom
Arcade Fire - Sprawl II
Kanye West - Runaway (ft. Pusha T)
Sade - Soldier of Love
Andre Nickatina & The Jacka - My Middle Name is Crime
yung humma - lemme smang it (ft. flynt flossy)
Deerhunter - Helicopter
Curren$y - King Kong
John Boy YaBoy - Let That Boy Cook
Yelawolf - Box Chevy (ft. Rittz The Rapper)
Gucci Mane - Lemonade
Caribou - Odessa
Big Boi - Hustle Blood (ft. Jamie Foxx)
Jamie Woon - Night Air
Diddy-Dirty Money - Hello Good Morning
These New Puritans - We Want War
Janelle Monae - Tightrope (ft. Big Boi)
Wavves - King of the Beach
Domo Genesis - Super Market feat. Ace Creator
Robyn Hitchcock & The Venus 3 - Star Of Venus
Rihanna - Rude Boy

was not expecting THAT many of my picks to place oh god i'm turning into an ILX hivemind :(

ranked ballot, stuff that didn't place in bold:

Reading Rainbow - Wasting Time
The Fresh & Onlys - Waterfall
Robyn Hitchcock & The Venus 3 - Star Of Venus
Kvelertak - Mjød
LCD Soundsystem - Dance Yrself Clean
Cee-Lo Green - Fuck You
Triptykon - Shatter
The National - Bloodbuzz Ohio
Roach Gigz - Goomba Pimpin'
The Books - A Cold Freezin' Night
Sade - Soldier of Love
Swans - No Words/No Thoughts
M.I.A. - Born Free
Rush - Caravan
Gyptian - Hold Yuh

I was the only one who voted for my #1 song.

did anyone else order their ballots backwards because of this:

"An ordered albums/tracks ballot will count the points down from 50, 48, 46...6, 4, 2."

because i think my vote might have made a difference had i been wise enough to realize i had it wrong.

two other votes for cher lloyd <3 <3 <3 <3

bort, I just sent your ballot.

Just posted this explanation of the stats in the other thread:

Enthusiasm = (points total)/(#votes) - 26

So if it's negative then that track's voters were less enthusiastic than average (tended to put in in the lower half of their ballot)

Diversity = (number of unique tracks on all ballots for that track)/(number of tracks on all ballots for that track)

In general, diversity will go down as the number of votes goes up as there's more chance of overlap. But if a track is less diverse than its neighbours (e.g. Rick Ross) then its voters had more homogeneous ballots.

Once the albums poll is finished I'll roll out fun voter stats.

can you send mine as well Johnny?

bort, I just sent your ballot

― Johnny Fever, donderdag 27 januari 2011 21:17 (27 seconds ago) Bookmark

thanks :)

Brainwasher, sent.

ranked

Robyn - Dancing on My Own
School of Seven Bells - ILU
Arcade Fire - Sprawl II
Gorillaz - Empire Ants
Maserati - Pyramid of the Moon (The Field remix)
Charlotte Gainsbourg - Time of the Assassins
Big Boi - Fo Yo Sorrows (ft. George Clinton, Too $hort & Sam Chris)
Gayngs - Cry
Matthew Dear - You Put a Smell on Me
LCD Soundsystem - I Can Change
Azari & III - Reckless w/ Yr Love (Tensnake remix)
Sleigh Bells - Rill Rill
Isolee - The Fantastic Researches of Yushin Maru
Deerhunter - Desire Lines
Die Antwoord - Beat Boy
The Black Keys - Tighten Up
Rick Ross ft. Styles P - B.M.F. (Blowin' Money Fast)
Willow Smith - Whip My Hair
Ariel Pink - Round & Round
Joker - Tron
Twin Shadow - Slow
MIA - XXXO
Erykah Badu - Window Seat
James Blake - CMYK
Kanye West - Runaway (feat. Pusha T)

two other votes for cher lloyd <3 <3 <3 <3

― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, January 27, 2011 9:17 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

i was one! (i think)

Underlined if I was the only voter (there are, surprisingly, only two of these, and they're both British and proggy, haha). BTW, those who gave 1, 2 and 3 respectively to Blackjazz Deathtrance, Weather Report 2 and The Body Is True, u fam. Other two Dominique Leone voters are fam as well. And someone gave that Titus Andronicus song I nominated their #1! :D

Working For A Nuclear Free City - Do A Stunt
The Fall - Weather Report 2
Dominique Leone - 40/60
Shining - Blackjazz Deathtrance
Extra Life - The Body Is True
These New Puritans - We Want War
Third Eye Foundation - Closure
Justin Bieber - U Smile (ambient version)
Kayo Dot - Stained Glass
Brendan Perry - Utopia
Oceansize - Part Cardiac
The Knife - Colouring Of Pigeons
Swans - No Words/No Thoughts
Shit & Shine - Bass Puppy
Joanna Newsom - Good Intentions Paving Company
Titus Andronicus - Four Score And Seven
Caribou - Odessa
The Fall - Bury Pts. 1 + 3
Marina & The Diamonds - Shampain
School Of Seven Bells - Heart Is Strange
The Chap - We Work In Bars
Pantha du Prince - Stick to My Side (ft. Noah Lennox)

btw Pfunkboy I listened to that Nachmystium before voting and I felt it veered a bit too far towards Pink Floyd-ish soft-metal (a blacker Porcupine Tree, lol) for my tastes (and I can dig that sorta shit, but more when it's done fully committing to the swoon and battered beauty that, say, Anathema evince). nice synths and it kicks a bit of ass but not quite there for me, soz - caught a bit between stalls

i was the only funk butcher voter? all the uk funky heads could get "it's what you do" into the 77 but couldn't vote for "pull me close"? smh

so seandalai, if I just sent a 15-song ballot then 1st song woulda been 50, 2nd = 48...

(I imagine you've prolley gone over this a thousand times, I'm sorry)

Yeah, you're on target.

Pfunkboy, listening again it grew on me though! :) Can get with that shit, really.

HERE is my #1; feedback would be appreciated, especially if it is mystified abuse

lex I really liked Lights Out & It's What You Do, but Pull Me Close didn't quite catch me...

yeah i guess i like "pull me close" better because it's dutty rather than pretty like "it's what you do"

abcsfk - just listened to that perfume track you posted. It's great!!

I liked WFANFC more when they sounded like Stone Roses.

LJ - never heard that song before but liked it more than anything that made the top 10.

'pull me close' is really good but for some reason I didn't have an mp3 of it so could only listen to it when I remembered to punch it into utube so didn't really 'live' with the track. But you're right, totally deserved to make it top 77.

Rihanna - Rude Boy
Gucci Mane - Lemonade
My Chemical Romance - Na Na Na
Sade - Soldier of Love
katy perry - teenage dream
ludacris - how low
young jeezy - lose my mind (ft. plies)
Lloyd Banks - Beamer, Benz or Bentley (ft. Juelz Santana)
Linkin Park - Waiting For The End
Ciara - Gimmie Dat
Train - Hey, Soul Sister
Neon Trees - Animal
John Mayer - Half Of My Heart (ft. Taylor Swift)
Paramore - The Only Exception
Erykah Badu - Window Seat
Katy Perry - California Gurls (ft. Snoop Dogg)
j. cole - who dat
Fat Joe - (Ha Ha) Slow Down (ft. Young Jeezy)
Keri Hilson - Pretty Girl Rock
Lady Gaga - Alejandro
Pitbull - Watagatapitusberry (ft. Lil Jon, Black Point, & Sensato)
B.o.B. - Nothin' on You
Lady Antebellum - Need You Now
ne-yo - one in a million
Cypress Hill ft. Pitbull & Marc Anthony - Armada Latina

Lj that is great. I was surprised that I clicked on it and running time was sub 3 mins!! Had to check it was you that posted it!

ranked ballot btw (xpost)

only thing better than a prog song = a prog song that packs it all into 3 minutes innit

ppl shd post more links to their #1s that didn't chart, EZ am looking at you

Ordered ballot with placing:

Beach House - Norway (80)
Susanne Sundfør - The Brothel (269)
iamamiwhoami - o (405)
The Knife - Colouring of Pigeons (67)
Gil Scott-Heron - Me and the Devil (58)
We Love - No Plane, No Train (164)
Delphic - Doubt (467)
The Amplifettes - Somebody New (Claes Rosen Vocal Remix) (480)
Beach House - Zebra (52)
zola jesus - poor animal (364)
These New Puritans - We Want War (33)
Trentemøller - Sycamore Feeling (539)
Mason - Boadicea (556)
School of Seven Bells - I L U (14)
Sade - Soldier of Love (23)
Glasser - Apply (120)
Goldfrapp - Rocket (Richard X One Zero Remix) (352)
Hot Chip - I Feel Better (116)
Gil Scott-Heron - New York Is Killing Me (112)
yolanda be cool and dcup - we no speak americano (511)
Sleigh Bells - Rill Rill (13)
Warpaint - Undertow (107)
Crystal Castles - Celestica (74)
Glasser - Mirrorage (78)
Zola Jesus - Night (94)

AG - Nachtmystium: I really liked the keyboards/synths in the song, but really disliked the vocals.

did you guys save these your hard-drives or is there some way to retrieve them?

Here's my #1. Listened to it about a zillion times last year, but I think I was the only person who voted for it.

The Naked and Famous - Young Blood

pandemic -- sweet

did you guys save these your hard-drives or is there some way to retrieve them?

Had mine in a Google Doc.

Mine:

Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Bright Lit Blue Skies
Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Round and Round
Crystal Castles - Celestica
Gayngs - Gaudy Side of Town
Goldfrapp - Alive
Hot Chip - One Life Stand
Janelle Monae - Tightrope (ft. Big Boi)
Joanna Newsom - Good Intentions Paving Company
Joker - Tron
Kanye West - All of the Lights
Kanye West - Monster (ft. Rick Ross, Jay-Z, Nicki Minaj & Bon Iver)
Laetitia Sadier - By The Sea
LCD Soundsystem - I Can Change
m.i.a. - born free
MIA - XXXO
Of Montreal - Famine Affair
Ramadanman - Don’t Change For Me
Rihanna - Rude Boy
Rush - BU2B
Rush - Caravan
sleigh bells - infinity guitars
Sleigh Bells - Rill Rill
Stereolab - Silver Sands (Emperor Machine Mix)
The-Dream - Yamaha
These New Puritans - We Want War

forgot to vote, but here's my ballot anyway:

Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Can't Hear My Eyes
Bear in Heaven – You Do You Do (Studio Remix)
big strick - 100% hustler (omar s remix)
Bubble Club - Violet Morning Moon
cfcf - the river
Die Antwoord - Beat Boy
dj zinc - wile out (ft. ms dynamite)
Floating Points - People's Potential
Games - Strawberry Skies
Gucci Mane - Lemonade
Gucci Mane - You Know What It Is
I:Cube - Falling
Jackie Chain - Haze
kingdom - mind reader (ft. shyvonne)
MMM - Nous Sommes
Nebraska - Soho Grand
Nina Kraviz - I'm Gonna Get You
Ost & Kjex - Continental Lover
Ramadanman - Work Them
Sade - Soldier of Love
storm queen - look right through
Tensnake – Need Your Lovin (Dub Mix)
Waka Flocka Flame - Hard In Da Paint
Yelawolf - Box Chevy (ft. Rittz The Rapper)
Yelawolf - Pop the Trunk
yg - toot it & boot it

if sean or jonny or j0rdan i guess read this can i get mined emailed to me?

btw, mine was unranked

glad to see I wasn't the only person who voted for Rush "Caravan", probably should have ranked my votes and made it #1, maybe it could have placed....

oh, to dream a little dream...

flopson, sent

The Naked and Famous - Young Blood

i was wondering who voted for that! i rly like that song even though it is hilariously (passion pit + m83)/2

anyway here is my weighted ballot, bold songs didn't make it

1. Sky Ferreira – One
2. Bubble Club – Violet Morning Moon
3. Tinie Tempah – Pass Out
4. Katy Perry – Teenage Dream
5. Die Antwoord – Evil Boy (Fuck You in the Face Mix)
6. Hyetal – Phoenix
7. Miranda Lambert – The House That Built Me
8. Katy B – Katy on a Mission
9. Cooly G – Phat Si
10. JoJo – In the Dark
11. Massive Attack – Paradise Circus
12. Ke$ha – TiK ToK
13. Travis Porter – Make It Rain
14. Robyn – Hang With Me
15. Gyptian – Hold You (Hold Yuh)
16. Jamie Woon – Night Air
17. Azari & III – Reckless (With Your Love) (Tensnake Remix)
18. Rusko – Hold On (ft. Amber Coffman)
19. Willow Smith – Whip My Hair
20. Lady Antebellum – Need You Now
21. Kelis – Acapella
22. Magnetic Man – Perfect Stranger (ft. Katy B)
23. Sleigh Bells – Infinity Guitars
24. Cali Swag District – Teach Me How To Dougie
25. Janelle Monae – Tightrope (ft. Big Boi)

I thought there were only gonna be twenty choices so my last five were thrown in last-minute... these are ordered, placed ones bolded.

Swans - No Words/No Thoughts
The Fall - Weather Report 2
Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Round and Round
The Crystal Ark - The City Never Sleeps
Joanna Newsom - Good Intentions Paving Company
Kurt Vile - Invisibility: Nonexistent
El Guincho - Bombay
M.I.A. - Space
The Fall - Bury Pts. 1 + 3
Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Can't Hear My Eyes
Rangda - Plain of Jars
Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Bright Lit Blue Skies
Arthur Russell and the Flying Hearts Featuring Allen Ginsburg - Ballad Of The Lights
Laurie Anderson - Only an Expert
Pissed Jeans - The L Word
The Chemical Brothers - Escape Velocity
The Fall - O.F.Y.C. Showcase
Fever Ray - Mercy Street
Mark McGuire - Brothers (for Matt)
School of Seven Bells - Windstorm
Marnie Stern - For Ash
Zola Jesus - Night
zola jesus - poor animal
Zola Jesus - Sea Talk
Delia Gonzalez & Gavin Russom - Track 5

poor sky ferreira :'( :'( :'(

fever this is cool, way better than crystal castles in the big anthemic danceable dreampop blow-out stakes! huge drums/bass are its making really, good use of organ sounds too

as someone who gave an Ulrich Schnauss his #1 track of the DECADE, I see exactly what sort of itch this scratches :)

loool teledyldonix' equation is kinda otm

aha sleeve is one of my fam heeeee

I should have chucked 'Escape Velocity' on the end of my own ballot, liked that one (even if I preferred 'Snow' for some reason)

i wasnt expecting lj's #1 to be under 3 mins!

xps

yeah i thought the vox might be what put people off

dude check out that Rangda record, I think you'd like it! xxp

also MIA's "Space wuz robbed, robbed I tell you.

I gather I would maybe like (some of) the latest MIA - shd give it a spin

poor sky ferreira :'( :'( :'(

^ this

thx man

YG - Toot It & Boot It
waka flocka flame - luv them gun sounds
Yahzarah - Why Dontcha Call Me No More
Taio Cruz - Dynamite
Gyptian - Hold Yuh
Trey Songz - Bottoms Up (ft. Nicki Minaj)
E-40 - Lightweight Jammin' (ft. Clyde Carson and Husalah)
R. Kelly - When A Woman Loves
Gucci Mane - Long Money
katy perry - teenage dream
Andre Nickatina & The Jacka - My Middle Name Is Crime
Waka Flocka Flame - Hard In Da Paint
justin bieber - baby (ft. ludacris)
soulja boy tell 'em - pretty boy swag
bangz - found my swag (ft. new boyz)
yolanda be cool and dcup - we no speak americano
Yung Humma - Lemme Smang It (ft. Flynt Flossy)
Earl Sweatshirt - Earl
Square Off - Where Dat Chicken At?
swedish house mafia vs. tini tempah - miami 2 ibiza
bangz - found my swag (ft. new boyz)
Diddy-Dirty Money - Hello Good Morning
Rihanna - Rude Boy
The-Dream - Turnt Out
young jeezy - lose my mind (ft. plies)

not my ballot, but what i liked best of the top 77 (misuse of thread, but w/e):

4. The-Dream - Yamaha
5. Arcade Fire - Sprawl II
6. Robyn - Dancing on My Own
7. Big Boi - Shutterbugg
8. Janelle Monae - Tightrope (ft. Big Boi)
12. Crystal Castles - Not in Love (ft. Robert Smith)
15. Willow Smith - Whip My Hair
17. Scissor Sisters - Invisible Light
18. Erykah Badu - Window Seat
19. LCD Soundsystem - Dance Yrself Clean
20. E-40 - Lightweight Jammin' (ft. Clyde Carson and Husalah)
24. Kanye West - Power
25. Tinie Tempah - Pass Out
27. Lindstrom & Christabelle - Lovesick
29. Gyptian - Hold Yuh
31. Earl Sweatshirt - Earl
32. Tensnake - Coma Cat
35. Wiz Khalifa - Black and Yellow
36. Caribou - Sun
38. Katy B - Katy On A Mission
39. Lil B - Age of Information
41. Lady Gaga - Telephone (ft. Beyonce)
44. Caribou - Odessa
45. Nicolas Jaar - WOUH
61. Games - Strawberry Skies
62. Swans - No Words/No Thoughts
70. The Fives - It's What You Do (Hottest By Far) (ft. Vanya Taylor)
72. Marina & The Diamonds - Shampain
75. Azari & III - Reckless (With Your Love) (Tensnake Remix)

For lj & anyone else who wants to hear it:

Reading Rainbow - Wasting Time

jangly indie that reminds me of Flying Nun records from the 80s will always rub me the right way.

Weighted:

1. The Knife - Colouring In Pigeons
2. The-Dream - Yamaha
3. Crystal Castles - Not in Love (ft. Robert Smith)
4. LCD Soundsystem - Dance Yrself Clean
5. Waka Flocka Flame - Hard In Da Paint
6. Big Boi - Shutterbug
7. Big K.R.I.T. - Moon & Stars (ft. Devin the Dude)
8. Mellowhype - Loaded
9. Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Can't Hear My Eyes
10. Delorean - Stay Close
11. j. stalin - don't front
12. Gucci Mane - What's It Gonna Be
13. Kanye West - All of the Lights
14. Erykah Badu - Umm Hmm
15. Kanye West (ft. Rick Ross) - Devil in a New Dress
16. Gucci Mane - You Know What It Is (ft. Waka Flocka Flame)
17. Onra - High Hopes (ft. Reggie B)
18. Hot Chip - One Life Stand
19. El Guincho - Bombay
20. Nas and Damian Marley - Land of Promise
21. Caribou - Odessa
22. Big Boi - Fo Yo Sorrows (ft. Too $hort & George Clinton)
23. Cypress Hill ft. Pitbull & Marc Anthony - Armada Latina
24. the jacka & laroo - don't be scared
25. Deerhunter - Helicopter

I totally forgot Johnny's song - it should have been on my ballot. He must have tipped me off to it at least 3 or 4 different times this year. My bad Mr. Fever; I owe ya one.

1. Bubble Club - Violet Morning Moon
2. Kylie Minogue - Get Outta My Way
3. The Knife - Colouring In Pigeons
4. Underworld - Always Loved a Film
5. underworld - scribble
6. School of Seven Bells - I L U
7. Nina Nastasia - One Way Out
8. Gatekeeper - Forgotten
9. Erykah Badu - Umm Hmm
10. Lil Wayne - 6" 7' (ft. Cory Gunz)
11. Sade - Soldier of Love
12. The Radio Dept. - Heaven's on Fire
13. Wild Nothing - Golden Haze
14. Blue Hawaii - Blue Gowns
15. besnard lakes - albatross
16. El Guincho - Bombay
17. Eliza Doolittle - Pack Up
18. active child - when your love is safe (classixx remix)
19. Javiera Mena - Hasta La Verdad
20. Grinderman - Worm Tamer
21. Goldfrapp - Rocket (original)
22. Brendan Perry - Utopia
23. Sambassadeur - Days
24. Grum - Turn It Up
25. Actress - Always Human

Bombay made it, Mr Little :P

if i could trade ballots with anyone in this thread it would be ciderpress or flopson

here is mine, placed tracks bolded

Waka Flocka Flame - Hard In Da Paint
willow smith - whip my hair
yung humma - lemme smang it (ft. flynt flossy)
Lil B - Age of Information
Earl Sweatshirt - Earl
Taylor Swift - Back to December
taio cruz - dynamite
ke$ha - we r who we r
Tinie Tempah - Pass Out
ciara - ride (ft. ludacris)
yelawolf - i just wanna party (ft. gucci mane)
cassie - skydiver
trey songz - bottoms up (ft. nicki minaj)
Diddy-Dirty Money - Ass on the Floor
Ramadanman - Work Them
alicia keys - unthinkable (i'm ready)
Rick Ross - B.M.F. (Blowin' Money Fast)
Lady Gaga - Alejandro
Drake - Find Your Love (Drew Austin Remix)
lil boosie - top to the bottom
katy perry - teenage dream
Gayngs - Gaudy Side of Town
young jeezy - lose my mind (ft. plies)
james blake - limit to your love
yg - toot it & boot it

shit i wonder if i was the only person to place my whole top 10...

my #1 placed but if i could encourage people to listen to one track off my ballot that didn't, it'd be this

magnolia shorty died in a shooting incident just before xmas - rip :(

also this Reading Rainbow is lovely - I know I made an erroneous A Sunny Day In Glasgow comparison the other day but these folks mine a VERY similar seam

and the chorus, when it eventually comes, is delightful!

And someone gave that Titus Andronicus song I nominated their #1! :D

― 2010 was a great year for highly-credible pop-ambient (acoleuthic), donderdag 27 januari 2011 21:25 (46 minutes ago) Bookmark

that was me, standout song on an amazing album.

here's my ballot ranked

Titus Andronicus - Four Score And Seven
Wiz Khalifa - Black and Yellow
Taylor Swift - The Story of Us
Lady Antebellum - Need You Now
Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Round and Round
My Chemical Romance - Na Na Na
Jam City - Arpjam
Ke$ha - TiK ToK
Katy Perry - California Gurls (ft. Snoop Dogg)
Arcade Fire - Sprawl II
Tyler The Creator - French!
Earl Sweatshirt - Earl
Lil B - Age of Information
Katy B - Katy On A Mission
Girl Unit - Wut
Javiera Mena - Hasta La Verdad
Vampire Weekend - I Think Ur A Contra
Selena Gomez & the Scene - Round and Round
The-Dream - F.I.L.A.
The-Dream - Yamaha
Rihanna - Rude Boy
Janelle Monae - Tightrope (ft. Big Boi)
Marina & The Diamonds - Shampain
Waka Flocka Flame - Hard In Da Paint

i would party w/ bort

so it did

pretty amazed at least one of those underworld tracks didn't make it, vote splitting i guess. the kylie track is a banger imo, but not surprised it didn't show up, plus she's kinda going back to "everywhere but the u.s." on a star level it seems.

v good track lex

LJ do you like that mark mcguire track I voted for?

post links

Mark McGuire - Brothers (for Matt)

you might want to skip to about the 2 min mark i guess

re: mark mcguire - i voted for "brothers" and was hoping it'd show up. just missed the top 77. ;_;

but that really was one of the best pieces of music ive heard in years.

Seems like 77 was just the perfect amount of placings to reveal imo. Prolly do it the same next year (if I/we end up running it again).

ranked

yg - toot it & boot it
gyptian - hold yuh
Waka Flocka Flame - Hard In Da Paint
dj zinc - wile out (ft. ms dynamite)
young jeezy - lose my mind (ft. plies)
Drake - Find Your Love (Drew Austin Remix)
Andre Nickatina & The Jacka - My Middle Name is Crime
Donaeo - I?m Fly
rick ross - super high remix (remix ft. wiz khalifa & curren$y)
soulja boy tell 'em - pretty boy swag
Giggs - Don't Go There (ft. B.O.B)
yelawolf - i just wanna party (ft. gucci mane)
the-dream - nikki pt 2
Drake - Shut It Down (ft. The-Dream)
Lil B - Like a Martian
ciara - ride (ft. ludacris)
lloyd - lay it down
waka flocka flame - o let's do it
Rick Ross - B.M.F. (Blowin' Money Fast)
husalah - you neva know
Taylor Swift - Back to December
lil boosie - top to the bottom
Wiz Khalifa - Black and Yellow
Juelz Santana - Mixin' Up The Medicine (ft. Yelawolf)
Tyler The Creator - French!

wish i voted this year sorry yall

what just missed the top 77??

TOOT IT AND BOOT IT

my god

this Mark McGuire is *superb*

would have given it points for sure had I known about it

so do I

btw LJ, "Do a Stunt" was freaking great! I would've voted for that.

78-100

78 Glasser - Mirrorage 218 11 0
79 MIA - XXXO 218 10 0
80 Beach House - Norway 218 7 1
81 young jeezy - lose my mind (ft. plies) 208 9 0
82 alicia keys - try sleeping with a broken heart 206 8 0
83 Magnetic Man - Perfect Stranger (ft. Katy B) 204 8 0
84 yg - toot it & boot it 200 10 2
85 Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Can't Hear My Eyes 200 8 0
86 Mark McGuire - Brothers (for Matt) 200 7 0
87 yahzarah - why dontcha call me no more 200 6 1
88 Far East Movement - Like a G6 194 7 0
89 Underworld - Always Loved a Film 194 6 0
90 Robyn - Don't Fucking Tell Me What To Do 194 5 0
91 Best Coast - Boyfriend 192 8 0
91 trey songz - bottoms up (ft. nicki minaj) 192 8 0
93 The Books - A Cold Freezin' Night 192 7 0
94 Zola Jesus - Night 190 9 0
95 Sleigh Bells - Tell 'Em 182 7 0
95 The-Dream - F.I.L.A. 182 7 0
97 Owen Pallett - Lewis Takes Off His Shirt 182 6 1
98 Sky Ferreira - One 180 6 1
99 Deerhunter - Desire Lines 178 7 0
100 Gorillaz - On Melancholy Hill 178 6 0

The Mark McGuire track is very cool. It's like an expanded version of the solo that end's the Bevis Frond's "New River Head". I heartily approve.

LJ coulda got the mark mcguire track into the 77

Ranked:

Kingdom - Mind Reader (ft. Shyvonne)
Ciara - Ride (ft. Ludacris)
Kingdom - Fogs
The-Dream - Yamaha
Girl Unit - Wut
Ramadanman - Glut
Lloyd - Lay it Down
Waka Flocka Flame - Hard In Da Paint
Willow Smith - Whip My Hair
Trey Songz - Bottoms Up (ft. Nicki Minaj)
Ne-yo - One in a Million
Rihanna - What's My Name
Ramadanman - Work Them
Drake - Fireworks (Deadboy Slo Mo House Edit)
Horror Inc - Aurore
Jacques Greene - (Baby I Don't Know) What You Want
Ciara - Deuces (Drew Austin remix)
Shawnna - Nappy Boys (ft. T-Pain)
Katy B & Ms. Dynamite - Lights On
DJ Zinc - Wile Out (ft. Ms Dynamite)
Rita Indiana - Los Poderes (Kingdom remix)
Velour - Booty Slammer
Creep ft. Romy Madley Croft - Days
Cassie - Skydiver
Terre Thaemlitz - Masturjakor

I tried to be somewhat strategic with my ballot, so my personal top 20 of the year would be quite different. I either booted or lowered a bunch of favorites I figured had no chance of placing. Would have voted for the Fives and Tinie Tempah. Can't believe I overlooked the Fives! That's what I get for relying on my bookmarks more than Site New Answers.

Looking at the noms list again, I still have a bunch of stuff I'd like to investigate. 2010 was insane.

Thanks J0rdan and Johnny!

LJ, you should check out the whole Mark McGuire album - it's superior to the Emeralds album imo. Brain Storm (for Erin) is my jam.

tpp's ballot is swag

the kylie track is a banger imo, but not surprised it didn't show up

I probably should've voted for it; I think the only reason I didn't is because it's not my favorite on the album, but my favorite wasn't nominated, so.

Yeah, couldn't believe "All the Lovers" slipped through the nomination cracks (dunno if that was your favorite, but I would've voted for it...perhaps highly).

Didn't even hear Emeralds! I need to be told these things! Ha. Thanks DAM, u a bro as well - glad my track is getting a few nice reviews (I figured that the post-poll ballots thread would be the stage for such songs to shine)

Liked the McGuire so much I'm listening to it again; will give the other one a shot afterwards. It and Badu's Window Seat are the absolute bankers to appear high in my ballot, of the stuff I've discovered recently.

the album overall is p strong too imo

xp

i didn't vote for mcguire in the album poll for some reasons, probably should have. voted for emeralds though.

"put your hands up" & "aphrodite" were actually my fav tracks off that -- though if i like an album enough i usually dont break out trax as votes

My favorite track from Aphrodite, perhaps idiosyncratically, is "Can't Beat the Feeling."

yea kylie album was super solid/underrated

I liked that Reading Rainbow song too...it's very Flying Nun!

Listening to Mark McGuire right now...interesting...

Emeralds are brilliant but this mcguire solo album was just as awesome.

i think i put aphrodite in my top 10 on the albums list

I really like the Mark McGuire song...lots of things coming to mind:

-an awesome middle-point between Tame Impala & Rangda
-sort of extended psych-jam version of the first half of Sufjan's "Sister"
-what I wish Person Pitch sounded like

the synths part was great, like the sun reflecting off a lake on a clear summer day, and now we're back into calmer acoustic territories for the fade out...

Brain Storm is very nice (and a tad Durutti Column!) but yeah Brothers is full murdah

This was my unranked ballot, c/w Kylie vote (things that placed in italics):

Actress - Always Human
Crystal Castles - Celestica
Deadboy - If U Want Me
Demdike Stare - Forest of Evil (dawn)
Games - Strawberry Skies
Girl Unit - Wut
Glasser - Apply
Glasser - Mirrorage
Ikonika - Psoriasis
katy b & ms. dynamite - lights on
Kylie Minogue - Get Outta My Way
Magnetic Man - Perfect Stranger (ft. Katy B)
Mark McGuire - Brothers (for Matt)
Pantha du Prince - Stick to My Side (ft. Noah Lennox)
Roll Deep - Green Light (Ill Blu Remix)
sleigh bells - infinity guitars
Sleigh Bells - Tell 'Em
Tensnake - Coma Cat
These New Puritans - We Want War
Underworld - Always Loved a Film
We Love - No Plane, No Train
Wild Nothing - Chinatown
Zola Jesus - Sea Talk

If those were ordered, Mark Macguire would have been my #1.

Super-bummed that no-one nommed these two:

Maserati - Pyramid of the Moon
Oneohtrix Point Never - Returnal

Hey L0uis, you might like this track, 10 minutes of intense, sinister madness:

Demdike Stare - Forest Of Evil (Dawn)

^ highly NSFW btw

Ranked

Jacques Greene - (baby i don't know) what you want
Nicolas Jaar - WOUH
Delia Gonzalez & Gavin Russom - Track 5
Velour - She Wore Velour
Nicki Minaj - Massive Attack
Azari & III - Reckless (With Your Love) (Tensnake Remix)
The Chemical Brothers - Swoon (Lindstrom & Prins Thomas Remix)
The Crystal Ark - The City Never Sleeps
Scissor Sisters - Invisible Light
Mark E - White Skyway
Jam City - Ecstasy (Refix)
Kingdom - Fogs
Ciara - Ride (Ft. Ludacris)
Tensnake – Need Your Lovin (Dub Mix)
Shit Robot - Take Em Up
Screaming Females - I Don't Mind It
Girl Unit - Wut
Lindstrom & Christabelle - Lovesick
Marcos Cabral and Shux - Lifetime Groove (Marcos Cabral & Shux Edit)
Drake - Fireworks (Deadboy Slo Mo House Edit)
Rihanna - Rude Boy
Joy Orbison - The Shrew Would Have Cushioned the Blow
Robyn - Dancing on My Own
Trey songz - Bottoms Up (Ft. Nicki Minaj)
Four Tet - Love Cry

Had I heard Fives and Katy B before voting, those two would have been right near the top of the ballot...and I probably would have swapped Fogs for Mindreader. Oh well. Thanks J0rdan and Johnny! So much fun following this instead of doing work this week.

yeah lj needs to check out Maserati & OPN as well as Emeralds

Unranked Ballot
Arcade Fire - Sprawl II
Beach House - Zebra
Diddy-Dirty Money - Hello Good Morning
Diddy-Dirty Money - Hate That You Love Me
Girl Unit - Wut
Gucci Mane - Antisocial
Gucci Mane - Makin Love To The Money
Gucci Mane - You Know What it Is
Japandroids - Art Czars
Joanna Newsome - G.I.P.C
Kanye - Monster
Kingdom - Mind Reader
LCD - I Can Change
Natalie Storm - Play Di Ting
Nicki Minaj - Massive Attack
Nicki Minaj - Roman Revenge
Sleigh Bells - Tell 'Em
Sleigh Bells - Rill Rill
Sufjan stevns - Djohariah
The-Dream - Abyss
The-Dream - F.U
Vampire weekend - I Think UR A Contra
Wavves - Mickey Mouse
Wiz Khalifa - Black and Yellow
Yelawolf - Pop tha Trunk

Basically anything non indie except Wiz Khalifa I only heard thanks to ILM. So much thanks you guys:)

gatekeeper might be up LJ's alley

btw LJ, "Do a Stunt" was freaking great! I would've voted for that.

― last night a Drugs A. Money saved my life (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, January 27, 2011 2:39 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark

shit yeah, that was great. thanks lj via drugs.

Hey L0uis, you might like this track, 10 minutes of intense, sinister madness:

Demdike Stare - Forest Of Evil (Dawn)

^ highly NSFW btw

― seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, January 27, 2011 3:05 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah, that was another one i was crossing my fingers for. in fact, i think i nominated both "forest of evil (dawn)" and mark mcguire's "brothers (for matt)". should have worked harder to get them heard before the poll, i guess.

just realised that the average length of song on my ballot is probably up around 8 or 9 minutes (not just thanks to biiiiiieeeebeeeeeeerrrrrrr, even), and that my #1 is ths shortest of them all, so y'all lucked out with that one

ha

anyway the main purpose of this post is to *boggle* at how fucking WONDERFUL this Demdike Stare is. FUCK, Contendo you need to get on this shit PRONTO as well

lololol xpost

If those were ordered, Mark Macguire would have been my #1.

Ha - now we've found at least three ways Mark McGuire could have made the top 77. He wuz robbed.

I didn't rank my tracks and it was already posted as a spoof #3 in the countdown, but this would have been my #1 if I had one:

Zinja Hlungwani - Nwa Gezani My Love

straight up LJ & contenderizer, next poll if we're all still around & you guys have songs that you're getting behind, then let me know. I'll at least check them out.

I checked out how it would've changed things if I had voted, and it wouldn't have been much, but I would've voted for Do a Stunt, Odessa (which I saw wz on yr ballot LJ), probably Brothers (for Matt).

& I'll let you know what I'm getting behind too...

I'll just take this opportunity to pimp own thing here. I've been making a series of mixes since early 2008 that are as much for my own purposes as they are for other people to hear them. A lot of what I end up nominating in previous polls (and this one) comes from these. The ones I make this year will probably end up serving the same purpose for my nominations in next year's poll.

Anyway, if anyone wants to pick up some popular and some under the radar tunes on a fairly regular basis, bookmark this: http://mondosalvo.tumblr.com/

Note: I consider a lot of it pop music too, but I'm typically "the anti-lex."

ya that sounds like a cool idea! we'll have to create a thread of blooding the musics :)

Demdike Stare was so, so, so good. Fucking yes, would have been top 10. Actually, at the end of my listening I'm going to post an alternative ballot, perhaps...

Zinja Hlungwani is VERY good - in merging African traditional sounds with electronic beats it falls within the esteemed lineage of the Burkina Electric album from last year, Paspanga, which I gave several points to in the albums poll!

Yeah I remember checking out the Burkina Electric when you posted it, should probably go back to it again.

i thought "dem dykes stare" was the name of a nicki minaj song or something

Glad you enjoyed Demdike LJ, god knows what it would sound like in a darkened room with some proper bass.

Loved the Shangaan electro album btw Sean, didn't vote for yer man Zinja here though.

Those look really great, J. Fever.

Actually, this is the Burkina Electric track I reckon you'll all go particularly mad for, and what's more it has a video!

yeah, that's a good idea. was thinking of starting a rolling "Songs You Might Vote for In the 'Best of 2011' Poll" thread, to try to corral straight up LJ & contenderizer, next poll if we're all still around & you guys have songs that you're getting behind, then let me know. I'll at least check them out.

& I'll let you know what I'm getting behind too...

― last night a Drugs A. Money saved my life (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, January 27, 2011 3:23 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

i'm there. in fact, i was thinking of starting a "Rolling Songs You're Maybe Gonna Vote for In the 'Best of 2011' Tracks Poll" thread, to sort of corral people's emerging favorites in one place and allow sharing outside the single-genre rolling threads, which are hard to keep up with if you're not in deep. also was hoping to try to encourage more voting from metal & punk thread regulars, cuz those genres usually go totally ignored at year's end.

anyway the main purpose of this post is to *boggle* at how fucking WONDERFUL this Demdike Stare is. FUCK, Contendo you need to get on this shit PRONTO as well

― 2010 was a great year for highly-credible pop-ambient (acoleuthic), Thursday, January 27, 2011 3:17 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah, dude, i know! like i was saying, i nominated it, but wish i'd worked harder to get other folks to listen up before the voting cut-off. next year i will be a more dedicated cheerleader for the shit. and i'm fully on board with "we want war". took me a few listens, but i got there. gonna pick up these new puritans and swans ASAP.

Anyway, if anyone wants to pick up some popular and some under the radar tunes on a fairly regular basis, bookmark this: http://mondosalvo.tumblr.com/

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, January 27, 2011 3:30 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

bookmarked, looks great

If we ever get it back, Listening Room might turn out to be a great resource for swapping tracks.

whenever ppl get make those threads they get filled w/ lame youtubes in like an hour. best thing to do if you want to be influential is just have really good taste & be a firebrand & make fabulous threads for singles you're digging. i personally dig the ghettoisation of rolling punk stuff, altho there might've been some funny reactions if we had like all kamikaze #1'd the drunkdriver lp into the top 10 or something

i was drunk when i filled out my ballots so i can't remember the and would only stand by them like 80% i'm guessing

but the top was like lightweight jammin (#1), lose my mind, fat joe slow down, whip my hair, katy b

window seat top 5 also

Needs to be a rolling dilettante crew thread imo.

what did ppl who voted for "arming eritrea" last year vote for this year in that vein?

right on zvooks.

bookmarked ur site JF.

fat joe slow down, whip my hair

totally down w/ whatever rolling thread you guys want to do...

if you guys want to keep it youtube-free, I kinda need to know how yall are linking to these vids...

[ url = *url of utube* ] yourtexthere [ / url ]

seems when I do that it always comes up w/ an errorscreen...hmmm

whenever ppl get make those threads they get filled w/ lame youtubes in like an hour. best thing to do if you want to be influential is just have really good taste & be a firebrand & make fabulous threads for singles you're digging. i personally dig the ghettoisation of rolling punk stuff, altho there might've been some funny reactions if we had like all kamikaze #1'd the drunkdriver lp into the top 10 or something

― flopson, Thursday, January 27, 2011 3:48 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah, thread getting cluttered up with whatever dross was crossing everybody's screen would be the downside. that or no one using it. but it's not so much about being influential (though i'd love to have sycophants), it's about actually hearing the cool shit in real time, rather than playing catch-up at year's end. i'm looking for a shortcut to wisdom, i guess is what it is.

i'm sure u heard plenty of great stuff in real time

Ranked:
Vampire Weekend - Giving Up the Gun
alicia keys - unthinkable (i'm ready)
Ciara - Speechless (ft. The-Dream)
Girl Unit - Wut
Waka Flocka Flame - Hard In Da Paint
cassie - skydiver
rihanna - what's my name
JoJo - In the Dark
Owen Pallett - Lewis Takes Off His Shirt
Sky Ferreira - One
willow smith - whip my hair
Kanye West - Runaway (ft. Pusha T)
katy perry - teenage dream
ke$ha - we r who we r
young jeezy - lose my mind (ft. plies)
Crystal Castles - Not in Love (ft. Robert Smith)
taio cruz - dynamite
Paramore - The Only Exception
Adele - Rolling in the Deep
alley boy - tall (ft. young dro)
Rick Ross - B.M.F. (Blowin' Money Fast)
yahzarah - why dontcha call me no more
Drake - Fireworks (Deadboy Slo Mo House Edit)
kourtney heart - my boy (ft. magnolia shorty)
TV Girl - If You Want It

oh i just thought! lj, i urge you specifically to check out horror inc's aurore ep, which was one of my votes - the trax are all on youtube, "aurore" and "crepuscule" and "dans la nuit". you will ADORE.

horror inc ep has album cover of the year, promising start

yeah this is really, really excellent material

it's so...intricate and tangled, but pristine too

there's great clarity and austerity in the mix, but there's also genuine madness, and the guy really digs unusual melodic patterns running up against each other

and boy does it swing too, it's like a really menacing masquerade ball

Needs to be a rolling dilettante crew thread imo.

wld join such a crew.

actually lex, if you like this, you may well like the third eye foundation album 'the dark' (on spotify) - check it out! it's a little more chaotic and the mix is a little fuller, dronier etc, but I think there's shared ground

what's a representative track? (don't have spotify)

horror inc = alias of techno producer akufen, which is the angle i got into it from

ahhh ok, well this stuff is absolutely brilliant - better late than never to discover it

the dark is basically one 40-minute piece which did not stop me nominating + voting for one of its tracks, coz that one is just...heartbreakingly wondrous

awesome that someone's put that song up on youtube, but could have been a higher-quality rip, never mind

I have "You Guys Kill Me" somewhere but hadn't paid any attention to Third Eye Foundation since then - "Closure" is sweet, though it doesn't seem his sound has progressed much since way back in 1998.

i ranked

Nicolas Jaar - WOUH
Jamie Woon - Night Air
Lindstrom and Christabelle - Keep it Up
Four Tet - Love Cry
Bear in Heaven – You Do You Do (Studio Remix)
How to Dress Well - Decisions (ft. Yüksel Arslan)
Anonym - Trust Me
kingdom - mind reader (ft. shyvonne)
Terre Thaemlitz - Masturjakor
Drake - Fireworks (Deadboy Slo Mo House Edit)
Glasser - Mirrorage
Rihanna - Hard
Kelis - 4th of July (Fireworks)
Yeasayer - O.N.E.
Junip - Rope and Summit
james blake - limit to your love
rihanna - what's my name
wild nothing - summer holiday
Kanye West - Power
Joy Orbison - The Shrew Would Have Cushioned the Blow
Four Tet - Angel Echoes
Oneohtrix Point Never – Returnal (ft. Antony Hegarty)
Ost & Kjex - Continental Lover
Karen O and the Kids - Worried Shoes
Keri Hilson - Breaking Point
LCD Soundsystem - Dance Yrself Clean
fred p - it is what it is

would chill with plax

fuck, when that beat DROPS in Crepuscule

horror inc is a lot more spacious than third eye foundation, really - a lot more clarity in the mix - hence I'm not so sure Lex will dig the latter, which is a morass of chaotic and harrowing density, d'n'b and duress

still, I tried

like, while 3EF accelerates you into the abyss, this stuff holds you delicately above it, smiling

both are awesome and I need to stop posting for the night

no i like the third eye foundation track fine, though it's weirdly reminiscent of, like, an overture for a historical epic fed through a mincer and decorated with industrial clanking. idk if 40mins of it is for me tho :/

well, that's the densest track - comes at the album's climax, and the others kinda build up to it - starts really minimal

but yeah, nuff. altho man I need to hear more stuff like this Horror Inc EP

lol plax i find u frequently cranky on ilm but i'd fuck w/a lot of yr ballot

Plax's rundown wz terrific!

GET MY DICK SUCKED IN THE SKY IM A MARTIAN

could i have my ballot emailed please?

Okay, my curiosity is getting the best of me - please email me my ballot, since I can only remember my top 2 choices off the top of my head and for some reason failed to make a copy of my selections.

plz send me ballot nice poll people please

I'll send all three of your ballots in just a little bit unless one of the other guys beats me to it.

Sent x3

I want mine too. I can't remember what I ended up voting for. Voted a few hours before deadline. I can't remember if I was drunk or tired that day.

Sent

I'm drunk right now. Btw I was at a bar two blocks away today and I saw the weirdest thing. Two show lesbians grinding on a random dude and taking all their clothes off. I had no idea what the hell was that about. I've been to the bar before a couple of times and never noticed there was a naked lesbian show after 3 am.

^ thread just got better.

Thanks JF. So... this is my ranked ballot:

Zinja Hlungwani - N'wagezani My Love
yahzarah - why dontcha call me no more
Wild Nothing - Golden Haze
The-Dream - Yamaha
The Soft Moon - Breathe the Fire
The Fresh & Onlys - Waterfall
Tame Impala - Solitude is Bliss
Superpitcher - Joanna
Sleigh Bells - Rill Rill
Nufrequency - Fallen Hero (Motor City Drum Ensemble Remix)
Nina Sky - Too Long to Let Go
Nicholas Jaar - A Time For Us
Massive Attack - Paradise Circus
Kenton Slash Demon - Sun
Kanye West - Power
Janelle Monae - Tightrope (ft. Big Boi)
jj - My Way
gyptian - hold yuh
Hallogallo 2010 - Drone Schlager
Gorillaz - On Melancholy Hill
Glasser - Mirrorage
Foster the People - Pumped Up Kicks
Crystal Castles - Celestica
Crystal Castles - Not in Love (ft. Robert Smith)
Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Round and Round

Mmm my ballot is kinda awful. Must make a note not to vote when in an alternate mood. Either way happy about the songs I wanted to vote for but didn't and either way ended up placing.

Sad to say there's not much too say about my recent bar experience. I wanted to hit the restrooms then realized there were two naked women grinding on a guy from the audience and felt a bit surreal. What I've said before is pretty much what happened. One of them was really hot tho, wasn't expecting them at all to get completely naked.

Bar name is: Club Nasti at Madrid. Definitely recommend it if you're around on a weekend. The first song playing when I entered the bar was 'teenage kicks'. That was way better than 700 naked lesbians on stage.

ranked, with p&j and (ilm) poll placements

Mary Kate & Ashley Olsen - Gimme Pizza Slow --
Home Video - I Can Make You Feel It --
Pink Noise - Dive --
Beach House - Norway 42 (ilm 81)
Mock & Toof - Farewell to Wendo --
Gorillaz - Stylo 31 -
James Blake - CMYK 88 -
Janelle Monae - Wondaland 1806 -
Kanye West - Runaway (ft. Pusha T) 4 (ilm 26)
Cee-Lo Green - Fuck You 1 (ilm 11)
School of Seven Bells - Heart Is Strange 1584 -
School of Seven Bells - I L U 278 (ilm 14)
School of Seven Bells - Windstorm 366 -
Vampire Weekend - Cousins 137 -
LCD Soundsystem - I Can Change 12 (ilm 59)
Janelle Monae - Cold War 23 (ilm 46)
Janelle Monae - Tightrope (ft. Big Boi) 2 (ilm 8)

thankig u JF! where is this bar of lesbians haha xp

think my ballot may be too middlebrow to post

could i have my ballot emailed please?

yah this wld be rad

Club Nasti

Sign of a gross club is ending a word with a letter other than the one it actually ends with (but especially an "i").

Sent to u, Lamp

oh lol man i guess i was p drunk:

emily reo - witch mtn pt. 2 (ft. philip seymour hoffman)
wild nothing - summer holiday
Diddy-Dirty Money - I Hate That You Love Me
Nicolas Jaar - WOUH
Games - Strawberry Skies
beach fossils - daydream
waka flocka flame - luv them gun sounds
Earl Sweatshirt - Earl
computer magic - teenage ballad (high school)
Curren$y - King Kong
active child - when your love is safe (classixx remix)
cool runnings - when i got high with you
Lindstrom and Christabelle - High and Low
E-40 - Lightweight Jammin' (ft. Clyde Carson and Husalah)
teen inc. - fountains
swedish house mafia vs. tini tempah - miami 2 ibiza

pleased that 4 of the songs that i voted for placed i guess

Ranked, though beyond the first three I can't say I put much thought into the order.

Taylor Swift - Mine
Gil Scott-Heron - Me and the Devil
Nas and Damian Marley - As We Enter
Rihanna - Hard
Kanye West - Monster (ft. Rick Ross, Jay-Z, Nicki Minaj & Bon Iver)
katy perry - teenage dream
Daft Punk - Derezzed
ciara - ride (ft. ludacris)
Arcade Fire - Sprawl II
Big Boi - Backup Plan
Gucci Mane - Lemonade
Rihanna - Rude Boy
Groove Armada - History
dominique young unique - show my ass
Bruce Springsteen - Save My Love
Wussy - Gone Missing
Laurie Anderson - Only an Expert
rihanna - what's my name
Curren$y - King Kong
zola jesus - poor animal
Broken Social Scene - All to All
The Drums - Let's Go Surfing
Big K.R.I.T. - No Wheaties (ft. Curren$y & Smoke DZA)
Blondie - Mother
Taylor Swift - Back to December

thanks J0rdan and Johnny!

1. Lee Foss - U Got Me
2. Jamie Woon - Night Air
3. Joy Orbison - BRKLN CLLN
4. Girl Unit - Wut
5. Shy Child - Dark Destiny
6. Drake - Fireworks (Deadboy Slo Mo House Edit)
7. Creep ft. Romy Madley Croft - Days
8. Jam City - Arpjam
9. Nina Kraviz - I'm Gonna Get You
10. Ciara - Deuces (Drew Austin remix)
11. Nicolas Jaar - WOUH
12. Adele - Rolling in the Deep
13. Justin Bieber - U Smile (ambient version)
14. Rita Indiana - Los Poderes (Kingdom remix)
15. Nicholas Jaar - A Time For Us
16. Caribou - Sun
17. Rye Rye - Sunshine (ft. M.I.A.)
18. Lindstrom & Christabelle - Lovesick
19. storm queen - look right through
20. Blue Hawaii - Blue Gowns
21. Horsepower Productions - Poison Wine
22. Nufrequency - Fallen Hero (Motor City Drum Ensemble Remix)
23. active child - when your love is safe (classixx remix)
24. The Crystal Ark - The City Never Sleeps
25. Kim Ann Foxman - Creature/Faze Action Remix

(weighed)

yahzarah - why dontcha call me no more
Pitbull - Watagatapitusberry (ft. Lil Jon, Black Point, & Sensato)
Gucci Mane - Lemonade
E-40 - Lightweight Jammin' (ft. Clyde Carson and Husalah)
Kanye West - Monster (ft. Rick Ross, Jay-Z, Nicki Minaj & Bon Iver)

Wiz Khalifa - Black and Yellow
willow smith - whip my hair
taio cruz - dynamite
Azari & III - Reckless (With Your Love) (Tensnake Remix)
Justin Bieber - Runaway Love (remix ft. Raekwon & Kanye West)

alley boy - tall (ft. young dro)
Waka Flocka Flame - Hard In Da Paint
trey songz - bottoms up (ft. nicki minaj)
Ciara - Speechless (ft. The-Dream)
R. Kelly - When a Woman Loves

Magnetic Man - Perfect Stranger (ft. Katy B)
Cee-Lo Green - Fuck You
Rihanna - Rude Boy
lady gaga - telephone (ft. beyonce)
Sade - Soldier of Love

Ne-Yo - Champagne Life
cali swag district - teach me how to dougie
Far East Movement - Like a G6
Tinie Tempah - Pass Out
katy perry - teenage dream

^pretty much an impeachable ballot obv

UNimpeachable, ha

active child - when your love is safe (classixx remix)

thought this might have a chance of placing but i guess ppl like girl unit umm

looking @ goon ballots is some earth-2 shit 4 me

u voted for a bunch of goon music (and some other stuff) iirc?

billy corgan smanging pumpkins homer simpson smiling politely

haha

rev well thats my point its like a parallel earth where everything is recognizable but slightly off you dudes are clearly operating w/ a different aesthetic worldview or w/e but its close enough that i feel like a should be able to understand but i cant

Yeah, I mean, it definitely can be weird to look at ballots where there are obvious overlaps but a very different center.

Tbh, this year was kind of a retreat to the familiar for me after the previous few years' adventures with white people music.

Zinja Hlungwani - N'wagezani My Love

Okay this song is awesome.

feel like goons are prone to liking shameless pop banger stuff that codes as p uncool irl, maybe that's what feels weird to you?

maybe - i guess i 'get' the populist impulse in the abstract but its hard to see what any discerning listener is getting out of katy perry or w/e

i mean i like some chart stuff and i like plenty of corny shit but just dng willow smith

Shameless is my middle name. :P

'teenage dream' is p real

i cant fuck w/ voting for willow smith or 'dynamite' tho, prob similar reasons, prefer to find pop ish that should have charted but had poor promotion & was closer to my 'aesthtic' i guess

i feel like so far no one has really positioned themselves far enough away from the trax on this list to really hate on it convincingly. had high hopes for gr80 & plax but they ended up caving & admitting to liking at least a third, more like two fifths -- no one is consistent enough to hate on all the corny pop placings even tho you can tell in theory they really want to; deej likes teenage dream, gr80 likes tik tok, etc.

I will hate the fuck out of some Joanna Newsom if you want me to.

like im still waiting for someone with a shit hot ballot to show up & bust our asses

some srs unresolved dialectic tension

Here's my ballot, highlighted the ones that made it to the top 75

1. Janelle Monae - Wondaland
2. Uusi Fantasia - Liian myöhään (ft. Freeman)
3. Kymppilinja - Minä (ft. Mariska)
4. Kelis - Acapella
5. Jätkäjätkät - Pikkulintu
6. Barbara Panther - Moonlightpeople
7. Jahcoozi - Barefoot Dub
8. Fever Ray - Mercy Street
9. Janelle Monae - Cold War
10. Nicki Minaj - Roman's Revenge
11. Kid Sister - Daydreaming (Helsinki 78-82 Remix)
12. Janelle Monae - Oh, Maker
13. Delia Gonzalez & Gavin Russom - Track 5
14. Scissor Sisters - Night Work (the track)
15. Daft Punk - Derezzed
16. Model500 - OFI
17. Kelis - 4th of July (Fireworks)
18. Cypress Hill ft. Pitbull & Marc Anthony - Armada Latina
19. Nicki Minaj - Your Love

I knew it was kinda pointless to put those Finnish tunes at #2 and #3 and #5, but 2010 was a great year for Finnish rap and dance music, and I genuinely loved those tunes more than almost anything else last year, so I thought, why should I go for strategic voting? I'd kinda hoped at least some of you would've checked out the Uusi Fantasia track, even though it's sung in Finnish, it's a total jam!

Kinda surprised that only 3 people besides me voted for "Wondaland", to me it felt obvious right from the first listen that it was the best track on the Janelle Monae album, even though the rest of the album was quite good too.

Oh, and I'd just like to admit that when ilxor correctly predicted the top 10, it took all my might to not secret message him and give him a hi-five. That was pretty great.

Kinda surprised that only 3 people besides me voted for "Wondaland", to me it felt obvious right from the first listen that it was the best track on the Janelle Monae album

I waffled on voting for it, and even though I submitted my own ballot rather early and before I'd had a chance to see what else most people were voting for, I didn't figure it would have any chance. I ended up just tossing "Cold War" a few points at the end.

Jahcoozi - Barefoot Dub

I really wanted to like the recent Jahcoozi stuff, but they're a totally different sounding band now than they were back in 2005/06 when I fell in love with them. It's okay, but one or two listens were about all I needed.

For me, a lot of the appeal of "Teenage Dream" is fairly similar to "Dynamite" and "Fuck You", where pretty much everything is a strong melodic hook that could carry its own song. And moreso than either of those, "Teenage Dream" just has these machine-like precision in both its construction, with each song section just kind of slotting directly into the previous, and production, where everything is as slick as can possibly be made without sacrificing any heft or punch. Someone somewhere pointed out the greatness of the opening line and I agree. It's just a very distinctive and specific line that draws you in immediately ("Firework" does this too, but ugh that song is terrible). I just respect the hell out of that level of fine-tuned pop songcraft. And like Deej says, the song just seems very real.

Fwiw, the appeal of "Whip My Hair" is very different. It's not so strong melodically, but it just bangs on a physical level and I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH I WHIP MY HAIR BACK AND FORTH.

Hah, it was quite the opposite for me, I loved "BLN" but in general I thought their earlier stuff was pretty generic (even if they had some clever lyrics) and didn't sound that different from the dance and electronic music of the time. Whereas on the new album they seem to have found a more unique and interesting approach that doesn't sound like they're imitating M.I.A. & co.

(x-post)

weighted

freddie gibbs - personal OG
cali swag district - teach me how to dougie
twista - i do
earl sweatshirt - epaR
killer mike - swimming
katy perry - teenage dream
the dream - veteran
Ciara - Gimmie Dat
lil b - d.o.r.
The-Dream - Turnt Out
jj - My Way
Arcade Fire - Sprawl II
B.o.B - Airplanes (ft. Hayley Williams)
das racist - ek shaneesh
soulja boy - anime
ciara - ride (ft. ludacris)
Sleigh Bells - Rill Rill
Wiz Khalifa - Black and Yellow
Nicki Minaj - Roman's Revenge
Salem - King Night
sky ferreira - 17
ke$ha - we r who we r
Japandroids - Younger Us
trey songz - bottoms up (ft. nicki minaj)

prob wouldve voted for the fives if i'da heard it before; had heard wut, dont really care abt it in any meaningful way

weighted:

1. Ke$ha - TiK ToK
2. Tinie Tempah - Pass Out
3. Four Tet - Love Cry
4. Jason DeRulo - Ridin' Solo
5. Stereolab - Silver Sands (Emperor Machine Mix)
6. Rush - Caravan
7. Cassie - Skydiver
8. Gabriella Cilmi - On A Mission
9. Trey Songz - Bottoms Up (ft. Nicki Minaj)
10. Goldfrapp - Rocket

[...and these got missed off my ballot for time reasons:
11. Nicki Minaj - Right Thru Me
12. Nicki Minaj - Roman's Revenge
13. Robin Thicke - Shakin' It For Daddy (ft. Nicki Minaj)
14. Nicki Minaj - Your Love
15. Nicki Minaj - Massive Attack
16. Kanye West - Monster (ft. Rick Ross, Jay-Z, Nicki Minaj & Bon Iver)
17. Wing - Stop the Nonsense (Stop Smoking Crack)
18. Travie McCoy - Billionaire (ft. Bruno Mars)
19. School of Seven Bells - I L U
20. Gorillaz - On Melancholy Hill
21. Ke$ha - Stephen
22. Eliza Doolittle - Skinny Genes
23. Eliza Doolittle - Pack Up
24. Gucci Mane - Lemonade
25. Taylor Swift - Mine ]

Really like how most people's ballots are mixtures of (what people usually consider to be) the tasteful and tasteless but in lots of different constellations.

tim you didn't vote for "pull me close"!!!

I don't know if I even saw it on the noms list actually. I can't even remember my poll so don't know if it would have made it or not (def. would be in my top 20 funky tunes of last year though).

Kinda surprised that only 3 people besides me voted for "Wondaland", to me it felt obvious right from the first listen that it was the best track on the Janelle Monae album, even though the rest of the album was quite good too.

Really like how most people's ballots are mixtures of (what people usually consider to be) the tasteful and tasteless but in lots of different constellations.

― Tim F, Friday, January 28, 2011 7:59 AM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark

totally, long live tastelessness

I was p much on the warpath from 17 on up, but I kind of got to admit I'm going back to AF. Not mindblowing or original by any means, but it does kind of hit the spot...

Biggest surprise is the low placement of James Blake's Limit to Your Love. Peaked too soon? Or was it from last year already, secretly?

no i think ppl just hated it

i think it would have placed if it came out the same year as the album its on, people who don't follow singles are gonna be hearing it for the first time this month

Voted "Footsteps"; was never into James Blake besides a couple of tracks and don't like "Limit" at all.

I only did 15, as I took so long over my albums ballot. In order, tracks that placed bolded:

Owen Pallett - Lewis Takes Off His Shirt
veronica falls - found love (in a graveyard)
Prize Pets - New Weirdos
Dominique Leone - 40/60
Earl Sweatshirt - Earl
El Guincho - Bombay
Laetitia Sadier - By The Sea
Oneohtrix Point Never – Returnal (ft. Antony Hegarty)
Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Bright Lit Blue Skies
Nicki Minaj - Roman's Revenge
demdike stare - matilda's dream
Trembling Bells & Bonnie Prince Billy - New Year's Eve's The Loneliest Night Of The Year
The Books - A Cold Freezin' Night
Games - Strawberry Skies
Mark McGuire - Brothers (for Matt)

Totally meant to vote for and am kicking myself that it slipped my mind:

Willow Smith - Whip My Hair

Had I noticed it was nominated definitely would have voted for:

Justin Bieber - U smile (ambient version)

Also, would probably bump Nicki a few places upward if I were to do it again.

oooh, link yr #1! u one of my dom leone famcru :D btw I did likewise for one of yr nominated albums so when you notice that second vote, it was me

also my gf introduced me to The Books recently and they kinda kick ass - need to investigate further...

yes, you do

the album from this year is a fine place to start

err this year being 2010

You should search out the proper video, too, but I love this performance to pieces:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7WxTP3ger8

Club Nasti

Sign of a gross club is ending a word with a letter other than the one it actually ends with (but especially an "i").

― Johnny Fever

I have a really strange hangover right now. Lol the club is not gross is actually pretty cool, it's a bar on weekdays and a concert stage on weekend. I saw Javier Mena for 9 euros last Saturday in there... although as I mentioned never noticed the sex show... maybe it was some sort of anniversary and it was a once in a year sort of thing. Nasti is actually not a willful spelling mistake on the word 'nasty'... I noticed because it was annoying me to. Turns out there's a popular saying in some weird Spain dialect that goes 'nasti de plasti' which basically means 'no way' 'not gonna happen' and that's where the name comes from. It's also a somewhat common last name.

veronica falls - found love (in a graveyard)
Prize Pets - New Weirdos

^ okay, no idea on these two

veronica falls - found love (in a graveyard)
Prize Pets - New Weirdos

^ okay, no idea on these two

― seminal fuiud (NickB)

Yeah me either. What are those emily?

My ballot, ordered:

Scissor Sisters - Invisible Light
These New Puritans - We Want War
Rumer - Slow
Janelle Monae - Tightrope (ft. Big Boi)
Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Round and Round
Girl Unit - Wut
Crystal Castles - Celestica
Magnetic Man - Perfect Stranger (ft. Katy B)
Tensnake - Coma Cat
Lady Antebellum - Need You Now
Mark Ronson - Somebody To Love Me (ft. Boy George & Andrew Wyatt)
Sade - Soldier of Love
Jamie Woon - Night Air
Glasser - Mirrorage
kelis - acapella
Gayngs - Gaudy Side of Town
Kelis - 4th of July (Fireworks)
David Guetta & Chris Willis - Gettin' Over You (ft. Fergie & LMFAO)
Spoon - Who Makes Your Money
Owen Pallett - Lewis Takes Off His Shirt
james blake - limit to your love
Katy Perry - California Gurls (ft. Snoop Dogg)
kingdom - mind reader (ft. shyvonne)
Tracey Thorn - Oh The Divorces
Goldfrapp - Rocket (original)

Veronica Falls
Prize Pets (not great quality video, but the only I could find)

Lol indie

My favourite bit of "Window Seat" is the delay effect when she sings "just beam me up.. me up... me up... me up".

Just saying.

This poll was announced VERY quickly. Didn't have time to join in the countdown. Can we do it a bit slower for the albums poll? Think of the Britishers!

imo post yr #4 too, just a thought ;)

*starts listening to all these songs*

xp - Eh? Think the top 20 took about 4 hours...

Or do you mean how it was done over 4 days? Idea there was to avoid finishing on a Friday evening.

Ha, okay, here's Dominique Leone, too.

Was it really four days? A week might be a bit easier. Just a thought. I was coming back to the thread in GMT morning and there'd be 900 more posts about 20 new tracks to sift through and catch up on.

hee this is lovely - ilx represent! new mtn goats album coming in a coupla months too...

kinda synth-loop-chamber-folk :)

now listening to the studio versh, lovely

I just love man & violin against the elements and stage crew hurriedly trying to bundle him off in that live video. You go, Owen!

veronica falls is probably the most un-2010 thing I've heard from this poll. naturally it is great. they say 'timeless', I suppose it is really

re: prize pets, so instead of voting for the fall you voted for one of their clones ;)

hehe just teasin', this is real nice, love the noisy drones, kinda demonic

Surf beat going on there too, proper indie that.

I didn't actually manage to hear any 2010 Fall output - kept forgetting to look it up whenever I was doing listening sessions. I am rubbish.

But yeah, Prize Pets have that good old-fashioned DIY ruckus going on, love them.

oh boy do you need to hear the fall album, last 3 trax espesh

and obv that dom leone track you posted which I have obviously never heard before is an incredible and magnificent surprise to me - who could have known not one but TWO ILXors could write such catchy, polyphonous, beautifully-constructed music?

Oh, and I'd just like to admit that when ilxor correctly predicted the top 10, it took all my might to not secret message him and give him a hi-five. That was pretty great.

:D :D :D !!

odd mix of consensus faves and "nobody else cares much about this at all" but i guess that's good

Crookers ft. Roisin Murphy – Royal T 2 votes
Kurt Maloo – Afterglow (Frisvold & Lindbaek Remix) 1
Todd Edwards – I Might Be (Joy Orbison Remix) 2
Brown Acid, The – Bastard Kids (Ikonika Remix) 1
Crystal Castles – I Am Made Of Chalk 2
Games – Strawberry Skies 7
Caribou – Sun 11
Girl Unit – Wut 31
Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti – Round And Round 25
Oneohtrix Point Never – Pelham Island Road 3
Oriol – Memories (Jake Slazenger Remix) 1
Toddla T ft. Ms Dynamite – Want U Now 1
Big Boi – Shutterbugg 26
Tinie Tempah – Pass Out 14

Has the ilxor who got none of their votes on the top 77 been revealed yet?

I'm probably not going to post the user stats until after the albums results, but I think the 0-hitter was Ismael Klata.

would be interesting to see which ilxor is the most ILM-y based on adding up the points of their tracks that placed.

All this will come: loneliness, hivemind, fuxxor ratings and the rest. I guess I can do the trax stats over the weekend if people are keen for instant gratification.

Are the stats going to be completely separate? If so, I'm up for instant gratification (provided it's not too much extra work for you), but if you're going to do some cross-comparison stuff then I'm happy to wait.

would be interesting to see which ilxor is the most ILM-y based on adding up the points of their tracks that placed.

― idgi fridays (blueski), Friday, January 28, 2011 10:02 AM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lex or j0rdan have to be close

Sigh. Meant to vote for Lewis Takes Off His Shirt, but had Owen in my albums list and wasn't sure how often I really listened to it separately from the LP. Still had I made space for that, it would have gotten into the 77. Also, I should have bumped Ass on the Floor a couple spaces up.

All this will come: loneliness, hivemind, fuxxor ratings and the rest. I guess I can do the trax stats over the weekend if people are keen for instant gratification.

― Glenroe in 3D (seandalai), Friday, January 28, 2011 8:03 AM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark

yes yes yes, do this! and thank you so much for your work on this, seandalai. (shandalay? am i pronouncing that right?)

I assumed it was Sean (shawn) Dalai (like the lama).

that's okay too

i assumed it was the irish for archeologist

It is.

wow cool, never knew

Please could someone send my my ballot? Sorry, I've lost whatever piece of paper I wrote it down on...

Ha, I had no idea. That's brilliant.

xpost

mine is irish for banjee btw

lol

btw I'm not an archaeologist, nor is my name Sean. The reasons why I adopted seandalai as my Internet username of choice are lost in the mists of time. It's pronounced "shandawlee", approximately.

if I made my ballot today this is what it would look like:

(Weighted)

The Fall - Weather Report 2 (The Fall battles Death & loses)
Erykah Badu - Window Seat (her most intimate self-portrait since Mama's Gun)
Earl Sweatshirt - EARL (Madvillain if DOOM really was a supervillain)
Caribou - Sun (plays a lot better once you hear the album)
Tame Impala - Alter Ego (almost trancey; this wz my album of the year)
Warpaint - Undertow (sinister Roches)
Caribou - Odessa (best video I'd seen in a looong time)
Drake - Fireworks (Deadboy slo mo edit) (finally I get dubstep)
Working for a Nuclear Free City - Do a Stunt (super breezy 3 min Prog for Dummies. Bouncy!)
Mark McGuire - Brothers (for Matt) (I liked some parts better than others, but as a whole, wholly great)
Lil B - The Age of Information (not what I expected from the source of the hoes on my dick & based god memes)
Erykah Badu - Umm Hmm (super poptastic, v representative of this album)
Jerusalem and the Starbaskets - Room 8 (200% percent better beardo indie than a gaggle of P4k bands making money)
Arcade Fire - Sprawl II (finally came around. felt like this shoulda been in some 80s teen movie)
Gorillaz - Stylo (robbed. So pissed this didn't place and the lame album is going to.)
Swans - No Thought/No Words (epic noiserock)
Katy B (ft. Ms. Dynamite) - Lights Out (I have a crush on Katy B...)
The Fives (ft. Vanya Taylor) - It's What You Do (...and Vanya too...)
Katy B - Katy on a Mission (...but I like Katy a little more)
Gil Scott Heron - Me and the Devil (totally great! Really excited about all of the Quietus stuff that made it in here!)
Wiz Khalifia - Black and Yellow (insanely catchy. As usual women know their shit.)
Lady Gaga - Alejandro (out of all the bands to bite ABBA this year, Gaga probably did it the most blatantly)
Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Bright Lit Blue Skies (dug Round and Round, but have more use for this two minute garagey summer dream)
Rangda - Jar of Plains (fits v well into what I was actually listening to in 2010)
Ciara - Ride (LJ, youre right that this is dirty, but wrong for not seeing how it rides the dirtiness into epic greatness)

also just in case I didn't do this, I wanted to do this (sorry for being kindof attention-whorey), but thanks again so much to Johnny, Sean, and J0rdan...this last week totally ruled because of you guys!!!

would be interesting to see which ilxor is the most ILM-y based on adding up the points of their tracks that placed.

― idgi fridays (blueski), Friday, January 28, 2011 10:02 AM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lex or j0rdan have to be close

― *kl0p* (deej), Friday, January 28, 2011 11:28 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

i'm pretty sure i was the only person to place my entire top 10 in the poll, so it might be me

I was really hoping that What It's Gonna Be would be the Gucci consensus just based on comments on the gucci thread re: it's the culmination of what he's been doing for a while, etc. Then I was the only one to vote it, too much vote splitting i guess :/ Lemonade is good but doesn't show off his lyricism as much. Plus I thought it came out like 2 years ago.

Nice to see a few other votes for You Know What it is though, that song just gets me so amped, plus Flockavelli foreshadowing!

iirc "Lemonade" leaked in Nov '09, appeared on a Dec '09 album, then entered the charts in Feb '10 and peaked in April, so its impact kind of straddled two different years and probably would've done better if it was all in one year

Is there any way to get our ballots if we voted through the web?

Drugs A Money's top 3 OTM haha, much as I loved Earl I think I undersold it with my write-up which didn't quite express how fucking kickass it is

iirc "Lemonade" leaked in Nov '09, appeared on a Dec '09 album, then entered the charts in Feb '10 and peaked in April, so its impact kind of straddled two different years and probably would've done better if it was all in one year

yeah i think "try sleeping with a broken heart" suffered even more from this, also "telephone" and "soldier of love" and prob a few more.

LJ I know you've been asked this before, but have you ever listened to Madvillainy?

(I'll admit that a lot of my enthusiasm comes from the deeply unsettling video, but Earl knocks it out of the park enough for me to trust J0rdan when he calls it 'best rap of the year' and I've loved DOOM long enough to be able to spot his influence and cherish that shit...)

"Try Sleeping" was out and charting well by the end of '09, at least in the U.S., never even would've occurred to me to think of it as a 2010 song before I saw it on some ballots here

Nice to see a few other votes for You Know What it is though, that song just gets me so amped, plus Flockavelli foreshadowing!

― See Gucci that's my Gucci that's my Gucci (Whitey on the Moon), Friday, January 28, 2011 10:02 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

I voted this. Was actually the first time I'd (knowingly) heard Waka. I could have easily gone with half a dozen off of Mr Zone 6 which was my first experience with Gucci tbh. I'm really not up with rap but bookmarks in the new rolling gun shots thread should hopefully help fix this.

Not heard Madvillainy straight thru, altho I do have it! Oughta correct that flaw soon - I like what I've heard...

u will dig dude

lol maybe somebody could email me my ballot bc i seem to have changed it since whatever i posted bc that anonym track i claimed i voted for (which is an insane jam and im pretty sure would have turned me gay if i wasnt already) is not in the noms

Ok, here's a first rollout of user stats, including:

Hivemind Score: the average number of points given to the tracks on your ballot (Winner: jon/via/chicago)
Fuxxor Quotient: how your tracks did in the Pitchfork Top 100 (Winner: jon/via/chicago again)
Antifuxxor Ratio: the ratio of Hivemind Score to Fuxxor Quotient, this measures the degree to which you voted for tracks that ILM loves and Pitchfork doesn't. (Winners: Jeff W, emil.y, glenn mcdonald, Lamp and a passing spacecadet, all with infinite AntiFR!)
Loneliness: the proportion of tracks on your ballot that nobody else voted for (Winner: V79)

If anyone has suggestions about other fun analytics, shout!

Oh, and you get to find out whose ballot was most similar to yours.

You can also sort by the various stats via the tabs at the bottom (not sure how obvious this is).

lol @ reposting p4k <3 as the key to ilm supremacy. gonna find a way to get the forkast to automatically repost as my ilm posts.

like i guess ill get ilxor-style clowned but u r all gagging for it clearly.

Lex's fuxxor quotient is higher than mine!

I am infinitely antifuxxor! Though I think it's more likely that I'm actually that terrible thing of indier-than-thou. Still, ya boo sucks to Pitchfork.

My nearest neighbour is rockapads. High fives to you, rockapads.

disappointed i am nobody elses neighbour also lol that my nearest neighbor mike t dive also voted for some emetic calibre shit like scissors sisters

How did you calculate top neighbor?

11th least popular feels about right but surprised at the (relatively) low # of "only vote" trax

Similarity(user1,user2) = (# of tracks in common)/(# of tracks voted for by either user1 or user2)

It's basically this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaccard_index

I ignored the order of ranked ballots, partly because not all ballots are ranked.

Really good work, seandalai.

wow somebody else voted for Pissed Jeans <3

Jaccard is simple and easy. The obvious weakness of it is that it doesn't take the popularity of the tracks into account, so two people who share 5 very popular tracks will seem more similar than two people who have 4 tracks for which they are the only two voters. It's also symmetric, which in the case of voters with very different vote counts isn't ideal.

My alternative is the Empath Coefficient, and for voter similarity you can go one step fancier still and use the weighted version, which works like this:

First, calculate a popularity weight for every track, by doing

1-N/T

where N is the number of voters for that track, and T is the number of total voters (in other words, the fraction of voters who didn't vote for this track)

Then do, for each pair of voters A & B that share a track (or album, or whatever):

4V(1-M/(V+1))/(A+3B)

V: sum of the popularity weights of the shared tracks
M: minimum overlap (in a set this small, try 2)
A: number of things A voted for
B: number of things B voted for

This is an asymmetric score, so you do it for each pair directionally, not once for every two connected voters.

Not that you asked, of course!

Thanks for the explanation! I was going to say something about tf-idf but I see you mention that in your blog post. Obviously Jaccard and Empath are answering different questions, I went with the idea that if your ballot is 75% hivemind approved and 25% weirdo folk then your most similar voter might be someone who is 75% hivemind and 25% tru kvlt metal whereas you'd pick up the voter who is 75% weirdo folk and 25% ping pong noises. I'll add in the Empathy-based neighbours when I do the next batch of stats.

I guess my real justification for ignoring the weighting information is that if two voters have multiple lower-ranked choices they're more similar than two voters with the same #1 but everything else different. Selecting a track out of the hundreds of nominations in the first place seems a far more weighty endorsement than ranking one such pick above another.

Right, I ignore the ranking on the individual ballots, too, for exactly the reason you mention. The weighting in my weighted version is, as you say, to make weirder things be more strongly indicative of similarity than popular things, because sharing two unpopular things is less likely. But note that with 113 voters, and the winning track getting just 31 votes, the weights are only going to range from .726 (for "Wut") to .938 ("Ass on the Floor") to .982 (anything with just 2 votes), so most of the time the extra-fancy math is just going to shuffle the order of some similarities that were already close.

Matt dc is my top neighbour, apparently

abcfsk, my girlfriend now loves that Perfume song! Not sure she could have been convinced to cast a ballot, though.

great stats, thanks!

I hate the people responsible for getting me addicted to "On a Mission." I listened to that maybe ten times last night when I needed to go to bed.

the thread got me into Crystal Castles and Sleigh Bells both

wow somebody else voted for Pissed Jeans <3

― sleeve, Friday, January 28, 2011 6:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

it's-a me, mario

Umm... This isn't my ballot. I lost it, but this is my last draft:

Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Can't Hear My Eyes
Autechre - r ess
Big Boi - Shutterbug
Caribou - Odessa
Darkstar - Gold
E-40 - Lightweight Jammin' (ft. Clyde Carson and Husalah)
Erykah Badu - Window Seat
Games - Planet Party
Gil Scott-Heron - Me and the Devil
Girl Unit - Wut
James Blake - CMYK
james blake - limit to your love
Jamie Woon - Night Air
Janelle Monae - Oh, Maker
Katy B - Katy On A Mission
Kenton Slash Demon - Sun
Nicolas Jaar - Shakedown
Salem - King Night
Shining - Blackjazz Deathtrance
Simon Hinter - Take Care
Sleigh Bells - Tell 'Em
Squarepusher presents Shobaleader One - Cryptic Motion (Mr. Oizo Mix)
Tensnake - Coma Cat
The Books - A Cold Freezin' Night
Tinie Tempah - Pass Out
Yelawolf - Stage Lights

nice non-ballot! yr track mentions from darkstar, shining, autechre, the books all could use more love

def need 2 check out the latter 2 of those, and shining was my #4 (anyone with a remote interest in metal, avant-jazz or industrial rock needs to hear that)

^^ will def. second the love for shining, that album's fantastic

Shining basically reminded me of why I love metal all over again.

Hopefully there'll be some mention in the albums poll

that autechre track is lovely btw, sounds like it's emerging from a peat bog in the best possible way

The whole album is wonderful. Although the track titles seem to be so deliberately off-putting I tend to ignore individual tunes and just wack the whole thing on, or play it on random with move of ten mixed in. D sho Qub or whatever is my fave, but not nommed.

Great poll, great work with the jpegs! Thanks guys! Though now I am OBSESSED with "Wut" and "Coma Cat".

I had never even heard of the makers of "Wut" let alone the song...on the pulse of modern music as always...

Love that Invisible Light made it into the top 20. Unsurprisingly it doesn't hold together live but they out-Frankie Frankie in both concept and execution in the last half of the track--the production is deep and complex but not confusing or overly maximalist. An amazing end to an album that is often a bit too slight for its own good.

Arcade Fire - surprised that something so Animal Collective-y made it into the top 5. "City With No Children" was my favorite track off that album.

Dance Yrself Clean - not as good as "Home" but not a bad selection.

Crystal Castles - also not aware this existed, sad.

Tightrope - very surprised this didn't rank higher--thought it might unify a few different segments of the ILM voting base. Maybe lacking a bit of punch somehow.

Rude Boy and the rest of Rihanna's big tracks this year were just sad, dour stuff.

also voted for Round & Round, Rill Rill (reluctantly) and I L U (turned out to be a productive last minute change on the 7 Bells vote). Glad to see three other people who liked Kylie's "Get Outta My Way".

And the Fresh & Onlys' "Waterfall"! "Desire Lines" should have gotten some more love.

unraked - bold didn't make it.

Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Round and Round
Beach House - Zebra
Deerhunter - Desire Lines
Far East Movement - Like a G6 (sorry)
Four Tet - Love Cry
Grum - Turn It Up
Janelle Monae - Tightrope (ft. Big Boi)
Joy Orbison - BRKLN CLLN
Ke$ha - TiK ToK
Kisses - Midnight Lover
Kylie Minogue - Get Outta My Way
Lindstrom & Christabelle - Lovesick
New Pornographers - Crash Years
Nicolas Jaar - WOUH
Ost & Kjex - Continental Lover
Robyn - Hang With Me
Sambassadeur - Days
School of Seven Bells - I L U
Scissor Sisters - Invisible Light
Shit Robot - I Got a Feeling
Sleigh Bells - Rill Rill
Stereolab - Silver Sands (Emperor Machine Mix)
Tensnake - Coma Cat
The Fresh & Onlys - Waterfall
The Radio Dept. - Heaven's on Fire

If I could have people listen to ONE track from the ones that didn't make the top 77, it would be Kisses' Midnight Lover. The rest of the album is sketchy at best but love the production on this track - hazy chillwave beat with some pep, hyper-present guitar hook on top of it, and heavily but not distractingly accented vocals. The YouTube sound quality is shitty but you can get the idea: youtube link

Arcade Fire - surprised that something so Animal Collective-y made it into the top 5. "City With No Children" was my favorite track off that album.

please dont ever compare anco to arcade fire again, kthx

well, apropos of something someone said elsewhere, both will apeal if you:

a) take NPR or Pitchfork's music recommendations seriously
b) enjoy boring indie bands like the grizzly bear, deerhunter, yeasayer, etc.
c) you're white btw

booooom

got me hah

lol but no. Well (c) I guess.

lol i feel like a big part of that straw-contingent would b p freaked out by say here comes the indian

By the way, who else voted for Tokyo Jihen's "Zettaizetsumei"?

^^ i did, i was youtubing tracks i hadn't heard on the noms list and i loved this one. d/l'd "sports" and i've been enjoying the hell out of it for a few weeks now, it's my first exposure to tokyo jihen/ringo shiina.

Oh wow (this is Tokyo Jihen day on ILM). Sports is actually not one of their better albums, imo. I would try to check out Adult and Kyōiku too (and then Variety, though no hurry there, since it's kind of weak.) Kyōiku sounds oddly demo-ish, but the material is generally extremely good; though there are better realization to be heard, in some cases, in live performance, especially on the Dynamite Out! DVD. (You can easily find some of this on youtube.) As for solo Shiina Ringo, the first three albums are all well worth hearing: Muzai Moratorium, Shouso Strip, and Karuki Zamen Kuri no Hana. The last is her ultimate masterpiece. (Yeah, saying that has become a cliche, but I think it's true. It's a very distinctive album at the very least.)

(I have come around to liking some of those Sports songs more though based on the live performances on them on Ultra C--not that I've actually seen the full DVD, but there's a lot on youtube. I think maybe they should have let it cook longer, or something.)