ILM'S TOP 77 ALBUMS of 2010 (NOW COUNTING DOWN THE TOP TEN)

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Just like the tracks results, I'll be posting a top 77 list. It starts with 17 today and then 20 per day over the following three days.

Hype! Hype!

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 15:54 (fourteen years ago)

woot! I fear my infinite AntiFR cred is about to take a small knock though :(

Jeff W, Monday, 31 January 2011 15:55 (fourteen years ago)

YAY

sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 15:56 (fourteen years ago)

If my #1 doesn't make it, a pox on all yr houses tho.

sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 15:56 (fourteen years ago)

looking forward to this. thanks, dr. fever.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 31 January 2011 15:56 (fourteen years ago)

(after no-one else voted for my #1 single by the same band, i'm guessing y'all gonna be pox'ed)

sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 15:57 (fourteen years ago)

It's ON.

emil.y, Monday, 31 January 2011 15:57 (fourteen years ago)

Like the singles I will attempt to listen to every one of these. Also lol at me thinking I'll do that. What I mean is i'll maybe try to first 3 or 4 and the winner [unless its kanye, and then more pox]

sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 15:59 (fourteen years ago)

77 albums is a lot of listening time...

Matt DC, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:00 (fourteen years ago)

yeah but as of next week i'll be only working part time again

sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:03 (fourteen years ago)

people should mention what they think the best trax on the albums are, and that way we could see what the fuss was about w/o investing lots of time & $$$.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:03 (fourteen years ago)

i.e., albums = long singles

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:03 (fourteen years ago)

pumped for this one, as i actually voted

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:04 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv0XmXqfII/AAAAAAAAAUc/atk7H-3vhA8/harveymilk.jpg

77. HARVEY MILK — A Small Turn of Human Kindness (240 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
P&J: 220th
Pitchfork: DNP

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:04 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm going to try to listen to at least one song off each - no way I'm listening to the entirety of them all.

xpost interesting 77! Never been that moved by HM but they've definitely got some stuff worth listening to in their back catalogue.

emil.y, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:05 (fourteen years ago)

ooooh. i liked the one w/ the jacket on the cover, will check it out. nice cover too.

sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:06 (fourteen years ago)

Lovely picture of a ditch that.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:06 (fourteen years ago)

yes. i voted for harvey milk, even though it's not as good as their last one (life ... the best game in town). it's one of those albums where the whole thing flows together and has repeated themes so it's hard to pick one track to recommend.

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:06 (fourteen years ago)

oh im not going to listen to everyone in full, esp. if i cannot stand what you all vote for

sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:06 (fourteen years ago)

I bet that was whineys #1. Yay for Harvey Milk

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:07 (fourteen years ago)

8 votes and 1 #1 vote is pretty good going for 77th place.

Matt DC, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:07 (fourteen years ago)

seandalai was nice enough to provide me with spotify links for albums they carry, so I'll be posting those for people who can use them.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, sounds like a lot more concentrated voting in this compared to the tracks.

skip, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

P&J: 220th
Pitchfork: DNP

Fuck P&J and Fuck Pitchfork.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

never knowingly heard this band. What're they like? What song should I check out?

I used to like it in polls like this when notable comments from album threads were put up, although I know it's a bit much to ask :-)

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

I think it might have been a runner-up album on the Pitchfork list?

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:09 (fourteen years ago)

smashing album cover btw.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:09 (fourteen years ago)

yeah fuck a mostly indie website for not covering a relatively obscure metal band! xpost

sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:09 (fourteen years ago)

selected youtubes - URLs not embeds! - from the albums' fans/voters would prob be appreciated

i have no idea what's going to place in this poll, let alone place. well, am hopeful for 11 of my ballot, anyway.

gonna have to drop out for 45 mins in a bit to interview one of the artists that i assume will be on this!

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:10 (fourteen years ago)

tell erykah i <3 her and bag lady is my jam lex

sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:11 (fourteen years ago)

I keep confusing Harvey Milk and Titus Andronicus and Abe Vigoda

vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:13 (fourteen years ago)

it's not erykah :(

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:14 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv2cj9wL0I/AAAAAAAAAV8/dQmJiutbH88/quadron.jpg

76. QUADRON — Quadron (240 points, 12 votes)
P&J: 433rd
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:15 (fourteen years ago)

I keep confusing Harvey Milk and Titus Andronicus and Abe Vigoda

― vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, January 31, 2011 10:13 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

harvey milk has been around longer than titus andronicus and abe vigoda put together btw

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:16 (fourteen years ago)

oh. i'm sure i remember you mentioning interviewing her last week. oh well, just tell whoever it is that bag lady is awesome and they'll never write anything that good unless they pull their finger out

sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:16 (fourteen years ago)

this is going to be painful for me, isn't it

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:16 (fourteen years ago)

i haven't heard much of this year's harvey milk but they're a spectacular band, so i approve!

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:17 (fourteen years ago)

quadron album is great, particularly "slippin'", "day", "pressure" if you need tracks to check out folks

ciderpress, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:17 (fourteen years ago)

that quadron record was on Andy K's end of year list, right? that probably functions as a great endorsement for some folks (myself included)

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:17 (fourteen years ago)

hate the album cover though :(

ciderpress, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:17 (fourteen years ago)

I couldn't get into that Quadron album at all.

Matt DC, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:18 (fourteen years ago)

I have the Quadron album. It's good. I have no idea about her/them.

I don't like the album cover though - so many albums with that kind of thing now. Really reminds me of Zoomer by Schneider TM or that recent one by Phil Selway from Radiohead.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:18 (fourteen years ago)

xposts

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:18 (fourteen years ago)

Fever, can you pull some descriptive quotes from ILX about these albums?

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:18 (fourteen years ago)

again it's hard to pull a "standout track" from the harvey milk album but here's a sample track that's fairly representative:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta0RdajnegU&feature=related

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:18 (fourteen years ago)

is this the happy xx?

sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:18 (fourteen years ago)

It felt like a kind of weird Scandipop attempt at doing Sade to me.

Matt DC, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:19 (fourteen years ago)

yeahhhh quadron! i CANED this over the summer - perfect for easing those hangovers in weather too hot to breathe. an album that kind of hangs in the heat and just shimmers slightly.

buster keaton
pressure

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:19 (fourteen years ago)

No, but other people can. xps to lj

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:19 (fourteen years ago)

that quadron record was on Andy K's end of year list, right?

it was andy k mentioning them offhand in the sideways r&b thread that turned me on to them

i love that you'd never actually guess they were scandinavian if you didn't know

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

That one about fitting into your old jeans was the one I put in my neo-soul mix when I was on heavily on that tip a few months ago.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

recent harvey milk a relative disappointment after life...

good band though

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:21 (fourteen years ago)

Quadron comes up as 2009 on spotify, ha. Seems a little bland on first listen.

emil.y, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:23 (fourteen years ago)

these spare neo-soul acts leave me cold...which may be the point, which I'm missing completely

skip, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:24 (fourteen years ago)

would like to request that people mostly use youtube links instead of youtube embeds in this thread, since long threads with lots of embeds crash/hang browsers for a lot of people

ciderpress, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:24 (fourteen years ago)

Quadron was released in Denmark in 2009, and gets in on a technicality by having been released in the US/UK in 2010.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:24 (fourteen years ago)

this Harvey Milk song kicks assssssss

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:25 (fourteen years ago)

dig "pressure" from that quadron album. "slippin" isn't bad either. jackson 5 via the XX.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:25 (fourteen years ago)

Is anyone else super curious where Glasser (and also maybe Chemical Brothers) is going to place?

vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:29 (fourteen years ago)

this Harvey Milk song kicks assssssss

yeah, "i got up alone" was the HM track i was thinking of posting. it's good, very representative. if you dig it, you'll dig the whole album. personally, i like it when they aren't trying to be so deliberately difficult. the cloud of crushing doom and despair makes the pop and "metal" moments so astounding - when they choose to let them in.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:29 (fourteen years ago)

Like I really have no idea if it's going to pop up today or wind up being #4 or something.

vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:30 (fourteen years ago)

quadron is surprisingly not bad. much better than the xx.

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:30 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv2zcO40gI/AAAAAAAAAWI/UVisoidPOXY/rihanna.jpg

75. RIHANNA — Loud (244 points, 9 votes)
P&J: 271st
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:30 (fourteen years ago)

figure glasser will place in the 20s. no idea about chem bros.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:30 (fourteen years ago)

Quadron album is a bit... XX meets Joss Stone imo. Not feeling it.

[ducks, covers]

sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

do like how the solo in "i got alone" is basically a visit from the residents

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

I really like the idea of a doom band throwing in strutting pop movements, so I'll clearly have to listen to HM a little more assiduously. I have 'Life...' on my computer

ah rihanna. does anyone really think that album brought much new to the party or were they just filling their ballot with stuff they were always going to? :P

haaa

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

er, "i alone got..."

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

honestly so surprised that anyone has time for that rihanna album...it's so lazy and tossed-together and inadequate. kind of like "hello pop listeners! you can forget that Angry Rihanna ever existed! there is only Happy Rihanna!" except it's way too forced and heavy-handed to actually succeed in the same way that her old sunny reggae stuff did. i guess "only girl (in the world)" is, er, really catchy?

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:33 (fourteen years ago)

ilx can be very unimaginative, sometimes

quadron are kinda breezy and fun on the basis of the two songs Lex has youtubed, can see how a whole album's worth might start dragging tho

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:34 (fourteen years ago)

but then it's not the first time a pop act has followed in introspective, dark and somewhat daring effort with a safe, conservative follow-up

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:34 (fourteen years ago)

P&J: 220th
Pitchfork: DNP

Fuck P&J and Fuck Pitchfork.

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:08 (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

can I politely request you refrain from doing this throughout the entire thread thx

Rogaine's a hell of a rug (DJ Mencap), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

i generally feel like too many singles get votes when they're really album tracks, but the Rihanna album is def an example of that in reverse. a couple great singles but not an album I'd ever consider voting for

Mordy, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

mencap otm

some dude, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:37 (fourteen years ago)

just annoys me that there will be albums of lesser exposure outside of the 77 with a small but utterly passionate following and yet the ILM consensus ropes in the usual suspects

apart from that, am eager to discover new things here!

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

Didn't get into the Rihanna album at all. Rated R is still one of the albums I play a lot from 2009 but apart from the singles I found Loud really forgettable.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

lex: ever figured that she may just be happier?

sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

made it as far as a drake verse. dunno if it would be worth going further.

sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

just annoys me that there will be albums of lesser exposure outside of the 77 with a small but utterly passionate following and yet the ILM consensus ropes in the usual suspects

the albums placing right now are getting 8-12 votes, i think that counts as a small and enthusiastic following - unless you want albums that only like 3 people rep for to place? i don't like loud but i know of a few people who really do.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

but then it's not the first time a pop act has followed in introspective, dark and somewhat daring effort with a safe, conservative follow-up

yeah, i really need to lower my expectations when a pop artist releases their most daring & interesting work and just accept their next album is going to be a bit rubbish, as history shows.

prolego, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

lex: ever figured that she may just be happier?

oh sure, it's just the way it cleaves to the most obvious pop trends is really uninspired.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

just annoys me that there will be albums of lesser exposure outside of the 77 with a small but utterly passionate following and yet the ILM consensus ropes in the usual suspects

There'll be a load of stuff with a small and passionate following, 77 is a lot of albums, and 75th place is really low for a pop star of Rihanna's standing.

Matt DC, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

Quadron album isn't nearly as interesting as it wants to be.

smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

it's hard to be creative when you're happy. not even joking.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

an album that kind of hangs in the heat and just shimmers slightly.

Listening a bit more I can sort of see this, there are some subtle touches that are really nice, but it does definitely get lost in a bit of a middle-of-the-road drippiness at times.

emil.y, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

it's hard to be creative when you're happy. not even joking.

disagree with this completely

ciderpress, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

how many points did the #1 album get?

prolego, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

Happy Rihanna >>>> Angry Rihanna

smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

fwiw i think the quadron is a real summer album - i haven't gone back to it once since the weather got cold

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

would like to see a passionate defence of the rihanna album. then would like to suggest a change to the weighted voting structure - first place 50 points, second 40, third 30, fourth 25 then 5 onwards is 20-1

an album that 5 or 6 people rep for but that they all rep HARD for is worthy of a place in the poll imo

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

Happy Rihanna >>>> Angry Rihanna

if Happy Rihanna = "if it's lovin' that you want", "umbrella", "pon de replay" and "break it off", sure.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

Harvey Milk: I like this in theory, but lack the attention span to make it through
Quadron: The vocals are not my thing
Rhianna: I like the couple tracks I've heard, but probably not enough to spend a lot of time with the album.

Moodles, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv7EuvlJTI/AAAAAAAAAYc/5fmx9g54ZHE/zolajesus.jpg

74. ZOLA JESUS — Stridulum II (244 points, 10 votes)
P&J: 233rd
Pitchfork: 37th
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

it's hard to be creative when you're happy. not even joking.

This is the laziest bullshit position ever.

smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

LJ i don't think that would do much except encourage collusion and 'strategic voting' even more

ciderpress, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:45 (fourteen years ago)

umbrella doesn't so much happy as hard and defiant. which is what rihanna does best!

prolego, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:46 (fourteen years ago)

it's hard to be creative when you're happy. not even joking.

wait for real? Just you, or, like, everyone ever?

vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:46 (fourteen years ago)

A SB that 5 or 6 people rep for but that they all rep HARD for is worthy of a place in the hole imo

sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:46 (fourteen years ago)

Wow, thought Zola Jesus had a bigger following than that. She strikes me as a singer who really needs to work with some decent electronic producers - amazing voice, decent songwriting, really boring samey generic synth backing.

Matt DC, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:47 (fourteen years ago)

there was a lot of complaining recently in the P&J thread about "indie" voters who lazily rubberstamp songs from their album favorites onto their singles ballot. is there a similar sense of frustration with pop voters who rubberstamp shoddy/uneven albums simply because they happen to include few beloved tracks?

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:47 (fourteen years ago)

Stridulum EP probably gets more votes than this one...

skip, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:48 (fourteen years ago)

The idea that nine people on this board might sincerely like that Rihanna album is being foolishly dismissed here.

Matt DC, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:48 (fourteen years ago)

zola jesus is p terrible you guys

Lamp, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:49 (fourteen years ago)

I managed to not hear much Zola Jesus solo last year (heard a few collaborations), so let's give this a go...

Hmm, gothy.

emil.y, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:49 (fourteen years ago)

is there a similar sense of frustration with pop voters who rubberstamp shoddy/uneven albums simply because they happen to include few beloved tracks?

it would if it wasn't as low as #75!

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:50 (fourteen years ago)

We housed everything with the Stridulum II nomination (since it includes all of Stridulum and most of the Valusia EP).

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:50 (fourteen years ago)

Surprised to see the album here but not Night in the tracks poll. It feels like I only need one Zola Jesus song to get the whole idea.

I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:50 (fourteen years ago)

Zola Jesus cover is <3 - Have no idea what this will sound like but I'm excited. Is their name a dedication to 'Franco?

sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:50 (fourteen years ago)

Didn't vote for the Zola Jesus cos some of it wasn't really all that, but some of the tracks are just fine by me:

Sea Talk

I Can't Stand

seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

We housed everything with the Stridulum II nomination (since it includes all of Stridulum and most of the Valusia EP).

Wow...sounds like the rest of ILM was as meh toward her as I am.

skip, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

If pop fans hadn't voted for Rihanna, I bet Sylvester Anfang II would be #75 with a bullet. Or not.

emil.y, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

Wow, thought Zola Jesus had a bigger following than that. She strikes me as a singer who really needs to work with some decent electronic producers - amazing voice, decent songwriting, really boring samey generic synth backing.

― Matt DC, Monday, January 31, 2011 8:47 AM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark

glad to see zola jesus place. her thread never got a lot of attention, so i didn't think that she had much of a chance. i'm conflicted about the "decent electronic producers" suggestion, because, yeah, i wouldn't be surprised and it could certainly help her rope in fans. but i genuinely love her early recordings, when that huge voice is just buried in a lo-fi ambient-industrial cloud.

Surprised to see the album here but not Night in the tracks poll. It feels like I only need one Zola Jesus song to get the whole idea.

― I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Monday, January 31, 2011 8:50 AM (15 seconds ago) Bookmark

yeah, that's the way i figured it'd go.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:52 (fourteen years ago)

Tbh, I thought Surm was the only one who was huge on that Rihanna album.

smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:52 (fourteen years ago)

it's hard to be creative when you're happy. not even joking.

wait for real? Just you, or, like, everyone ever?

― vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:46 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

Just personal experience. And I guess it fits the desperate/starving artist stereotype too.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:52 (fourteen years ago)

From what I heard of Zola Jesus, I wasn't sold. I'm on the fence about the minimal synth revival. Sometimes it works, sometimes it sounds like an excuse to sing lazily over a bad Yamaha rhythm.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

"is there a similar sense of frustration with pop voters who rubberstamp shoddy/uneven albums simply because they happen to include few beloved tracks?"

it would if it wasn't as low as #75!

― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, January 31, 2011 8:50 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

wasn't directing that at the rihanna album specifically, just at the discussion about it. it's a general question.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

terrible LJ posts itt

*kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

wait haha wasn't zola jesus a massive DiS favourite

splains a lot, listening to it now. DARKCHILLWITCHWAVEHOUSESTEPTHING

deej if it's any consolation I think you're one of the worst ILM posters full stop, nsb

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:55 (fourteen years ago)

Quite liked the first two tracks on the Zola Jesus album, got bored and stopped halfway through the third.

emil.y, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:55 (fourteen years ago)

zola jesus really reminded me of ladyhawke voice-wise

it's hard to be creative when you're happy is probably very true for some people and not at all for others - the end.

idgi fridays (blueski), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:55 (fourteen years ago)

Don't think you could really file Zola Jesus under 'lazy singing' dog latin.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:56 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv6148txrI/AAAAAAAAAX8/-iwFvF5saG8/thirdeyefoundation.jpg

73. THIRD EYE FOUNDATION — The Dark (246 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes)
P&J: 497th
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:56 (fourteen years ago)

honestly so surprised that anyone has time for that rihanna album...it's so lazy and tossed-together and inadequate. kind of like "hello pop listeners! you can forget that Angry Rihanna ever existed! there is only Happy Rihanna!" except it's way too forced and heavy-handed to actually succeed in the same way that her old sunny reggae stuff did. i guess "only girl (in the world)" is, er, really catchy?

― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, January 31, 2011 10:33 AM (18 minutes ago)

lex embarrasingly otm ^^

that zola jesus comp is great, i love both stridulum and valusia, and "sea talk" ended up squeaking into the bottom part of my tracks list

deej if it's any consolation I think you're one of the worst ILM posters full stop, nsb

lol does this stand for "no suggest ban"?? classic!

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

Wait, what? What year is this?

emil.y, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

SHUT UP AND LISTEN TO THIS ALBUM

btw this was the one I was talking about, should never have doubted you, ILX

my #1

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

why are you calling out our resident utd fan lj?

sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

lol that wasn't to you emil.y

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

Just personal experience. And I guess it fits the desperate/starving artist stereotype too.

― Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, January 31, 2011 8:52 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

in my personal experience, the opposite is true. when i'm miserable, it's very hard to do anything, much less create. hell, it's even hard to make art when i'm merely content. art, ime, only really works when i'm excited by and engaged with life. that can happen in the midst of difficult circumstances, but there has to be a core of joyful engagement with life and with other people.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, what is nsb?

I was a little unfair on ZJ - Sea Talk is also fantastic.

I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

Don't think you could really file Zola Jesus under 'lazy singing' dog latin.

― seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:56 (1 minute ago) Bookmark

Ain't actually heard the album, this was a cut on a compilation of similar stuff. I think ZJ contribution was one of the highlights though, so I will get hold of the album.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 31 January 2011 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

ilxor correctly interpreted nsb

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

Anyway, I'm happy now. Thought that one wouldn't place, am sated.

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:00 (fourteen years ago)

'Closure' is the single track I'd recommend btw

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:00 (fourteen years ago)

lol oh yeah it would be nbs if i was correk

sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:00 (fourteen years ago)

Wait, what? What year is this?

― emil.y, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:57 (1 minute ago) Bookmark

Haha! My thoughts when I saw 3EF too.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:01 (fourteen years ago)

This TEF album sounds pretty awesome so far but I have to stop listening as someone I know is on Come Dine With Me RIGHT NOW OMG.

emil.y, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:01 (fourteen years ago)

Semtex was good

idgi fridays (blueski), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:02 (fourteen years ago)

deej if it's any consolation I think you're one of the worst ILM posters full stop, nsb

― acoleuthic, Monday, January 31, 2011 10:55 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

seems a lil harsh dude

*kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:02 (fourteen years ago)

I don't know who Third Eye Foundation are but for a minute I was thinking it was that band that did Semi Charmed Life.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:03 (fourteen years ago)

i think trying to rejigger the poll results so rihanna doesnt make it is lame, is all

*kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:03 (fourteen years ago)

rejagger

*kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:03 (fourteen years ago)

"Closure" reminds me of that Venetian Snares track where he samples the Bartok string quartet.

skip, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:03 (fourteen years ago)

ok sry deej but plz quit it with the whole interpersonal attax postingstyle, it's rly dismaying :(

here is what i said about the ALBUM OF THE YEAR (above)

lol

yeah srsly, at first I was all 'this is some neat dark electro' and then halfway thru part 2 I was basically reduced to 'my god this is the end of days'

― schlomo replay (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 15:05 (1 month ago)

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:03 (fourteen years ago)

nsb = furnace abbrev

smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

listening to "if you treat us all like terrorists..."

nice. are the strings meant to sound this muddy? love the cycling droning horn noise, sounds like it was sculpted out of a muezzin's call or something.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

I mean Elgar cello concerto.

skip, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

its an interpersonal attack 2 say that trying to electioneer rihanna out of the results is lame?

*kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

whats the diff between 'persona' & 'interpersonal'

*kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

As I said, I was worried my #1 would be obscured by an album that by common consent is a step backwards and has no #1 votes...but now it's turned up so soon after, have made my peace with Rihanna and her fans tbh

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

I mean Elgar cello concerto.

<3 <3 <3 elgar cello concerto

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

i used to think deej was evil, but then i realized we just disagree about stuff (such as how to disagree)

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

I don't know who Third Eye Foundation are but for a minute I was thinking it was that band that did Semi Charmed Life.

― Kitchen Person, Monday, January 31, 2011 12:03 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:06 (fourteen years ago)

whats the diff between 'persona' & 'interpersonal'

'intrapersonal' is the one that always gets me

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:07 (fourteen years ago)

Cool to see Third Eye Blind here, didn't realize they were still around. Doot doot doot, doot da-doot doot.

smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:07 (fourteen years ago)

trying to kip but this 3rd eye shit sounds like something that dudes who still wear raver pants in 2010 think sounds 'deep'

at least its better than zola jesus

Lamp, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:07 (fourteen years ago)

Here's that Venetian Snares track. Much more emo/dark than I remember--thanks, college.

skip, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:08 (fourteen years ago)

the key with 3EF is the sense of acceleration - you're thrown headlong into the abyss, whole thing's a 40-minute piece rly

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

contenderizer - for fear of derailing - I find when I'm happy I get complacent about things like making music. Ideas don't seem to come to me as I'm too content and sort of distracted. If I'm going through a miserable phase, I can pick up a guitar or get on Reason and ideas come from nowhere. I pin all my problems on creativity, using it as a release. This is kind of a problem as in 2007 when my girlfriend of the time split up with me and then I lost my job, I ended up writing and recording about a song a week. This was to the detriment of finding a job and err... showering. I stopped writing music almost entirely when I met my current girlfriend, with a little peak when I was made redundant.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv2_JQQMgI/AAAAAAAAAWs/KdALH3GGFhY/tallestman.jpg

(TIE) 71. THE TALLEST MAN ON EARTH — The Wild Hunt (250 points, 8 votes)
P&J: 40th
Pitchfork: 33rd
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

'Closure' off that Third Eye Foundation album sounds a lot like someone's put some beats over 'The Sinking of the Titanic'.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

^^ the dullest album on earth

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:13 (fourteen years ago)

I usually can't stand more than 10 minutes of guy-and-an-acoustic-guitar stuff but happily listened through this entire album multiple times. King of Spain was my fave.

skip, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:13 (fourteen years ago)

never heard of it.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:13 (fourteen years ago)

i like the tallest man on earth. though i am taller than him iirc

ciderpress, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

you linked the wrong album, jf!

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

we reviewed one of the songs off that tallest man on earth album on the jukebox, it was the WORST. his VOICE, intolerable.

xps yes it was "king of spain" :/

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

Oops! Maybe someone can link the right one? I'm just linking what seandalai sent me.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

Whiny-voiced acoustica herein

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:16 (fourteen years ago)

I think I heard this guy's first album, but it didn't make an impression. "King of Spain" sounds like a more Starbucks-friendly Devendra Banhart.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:16 (fourteen years ago)

'Closure' off that Third Eye Foundation album sounds a lot like someone's put some beats over 'The Sinking of the Titanic'.

― seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, January 31, 2011 9:11 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

hate to disappoint a jagger, but this ^^^

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:16 (fourteen years ago)

surprised this needs to be said but obv i dont have anything against lj

*kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:18 (fourteen years ago)

a more Starbucks-friendly Devendra Banhart

apparently you haven't heard recent devendra banhart albums? already v much sbux friendly

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:18 (fourteen years ago)

surprised this needs to be said but obv i dont have anything against lj

ilxor, on the other hand

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:19 (fourteen years ago)

and I wouldn't have anything against you if you didn't single people out - and I know it's normally not me - but single people out for 'real talk' treatment!

weird mix of emotions so far itp

king of spain guy isn't awful but isn't will oldham and he cleeeeeearly wants to be

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:20 (fourteen years ago)

will oldham isnt even will oldham anymore

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:20 (fourteen years ago)

"king of spain" - shit, dude can play. endorse the fingers on strings aspect... but fuck! that voice. wtf, tall man? sticking with it. and it's okay, once you allow for the fact that dude's gonna be sneezing all over the track like that. it's better than okay, really. not my thing by any stretch, but i'd be lying if i said i hated it. i mean, i want to hate it, but can't quite.

i don't think TMOE guy wants to be oldham at all, not on that "king of spain" track anyway. he wants to be some kind of dylan/jens leckman midpoint.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:22 (fourteen years ago)

i don't think he wants to be will oldham so much as dylan if dylan only wrote songs like "Love Minus Zero/No Limit" etc

ciderpress, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:23 (fourteen years ago)

dylan hongro

ciderpress, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:23 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv1v8vy5gI/AAAAAAAAAVc/3wkfLPnMdiM/kylieminogue.jpg

(TIE) 71. KYLIE MINOGUE — Aphrodite (250 points, 8 votes)
P&J: 193rd
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:23 (fourteen years ago)

I kinda like this. Its unashamedly "Dylan-y"

sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:24 (fourteen years ago)

Blimey. Kylie had an album out last year? I'm so out of touch.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:25 (fourteen years ago)

Close to taking a screenshot of Kylie and "unashamedly 'Dylan-y'" in the next post.

abcfsk, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:25 (fourteen years ago)

Tallest Man is emulating what Dylan haters claim Bob's voice sounds like.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:25 (fourteen years ago)

Guessing it's not "unashamedly Dylan-y" tho.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:26 (fourteen years ago)

"a lion's heart" similarly evokes 60s/70s singer-songwriter folkies, primarily dylan. with, yeah, lots of devendra in the vocal. am coming to terms with the fact that i actually like this shit.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:26 (fourteen years ago)

multiple xps: could think of a lot worse things to say about a piece of music than "someone's put some beats over 'The Sinking of the Titanic'" tbf

Rogaine's a hell of a rug (DJ Mencap), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:26 (fourteen years ago)

Tallest Man is emulating what Dylan haters claim Bob's voice sounds like.

― EZ Snappin, Monday, January 31, 2011 9:25 AM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark

^^^

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

his voice is dylanesque but his playing is quite will oldham imo

anyway he's a folky dude, can write songs, not bad

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

Got 3 tracks into Zola Jesus. Okay at first then started to wear on me tbh.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

I liked that one Kylie single and then never got around to checking the album out.

sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

^^^

prolego, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

that is the worst kylie album i've heard, it sounds like she's on autopilot (and i'm speaking having heard everything from Light Years on fwd)

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

lion's heart is probably my favorite on there yeah

he's obv channeling dylan with the vocals but he's way more interested in melody/harmony than dylan ever was, most of his songs are downright pretty if you ignore the vocal timbre

ciderpress, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

Listening to "All The Lovers" off the Kylie and it's good. I'm pretty Kylie ambivalent, but at least this is a good cut. Next one I should play, Kylie voters?

EZ Snappin, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

guitar on "a lion's heart" started out reminding me of fahey (for like 10 seconds), wound up sounding hella like arlo guthrie circa hobo's lulabye.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:29 (fourteen years ago)

'Get Outta My Way' is good (but I'm not a Kylie voter) xp

seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:30 (fourteen years ago)

If I want modern folkie with tunes and skillz I'd pick Johnny Flynn over Tallest Man.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:31 (fourteen years ago)

his voice is dylanesque but his playing is quite will oldham imo

I'm an Oldham fan and all, but will can barely play at all and TMOE is really very proficient. I don't see any connection here at all.

Clay, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:31 (fourteen years ago)

that is the worst kylie album i've heard, it sounds like she's on autopilot (and i'm speaking having heard everything from Light Years on fwd)

yeah i forgot kylie even released an album this year. she's obviously in the stage of her career where she's just making music for her fans, the people who are into her for whatever qualities they think she possesses, and i was never one of those.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

I voted for this one. Unjustly ignored album by American gays - assume the straights are a lost cause, though obviously she had her moment with Fever - is it that she's too old? Too eurodance? Get Outta My Way and Put Your Hands Up should have been huge. I love how the instrumentation and vocals move back and forth across each other in the verse--not sure exactly which part of the track you're supposed to pay attention to because they are both so catchy. God knows an occasional spin of this would be better than the continued perpetuation of the Katy Perry/Kesha/Gaga three-headed monster that has dominated clubs the last year.

skip, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:33 (fourteen years ago)

The Kylie album is nice enough but X was such a more varied and interesting album even if though it was a little patchy. I think she was aiming to do what Madonna did with Confessions, making a straight forward dance record that her loyal fans would go crazy for.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:34 (fourteen years ago)

though obviously she had her moment with Fever

For a split second, I thought you were referring to ME. But, it's true...she did have her moment with me. Many times. I might have voted for Aphrodite, but I can't remember. And if I did, it was probably well down my ballot. Would've given "All the Lovers" big points if it had been nominated, tho.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:34 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv6_71UhvI/AAAAAAAAAYQ/1FMV_ZnnsxU/warpaint.jpg

70. WARPAINT — The Fool (250 points, 9 votes)
P&J: 102nd
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:35 (fourteen years ago)

re, kylie's question in "get outta my way": the worst thing that could happen to me would be if i were skinned alive and then set on fire probably. drowning seems bad too, but less painful.

song is okayish dance pop, but sadly generic

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:35 (fourteen years ago)

Fever is pretty much the only Kylie that casual fans need; after that, i'd say explore fwd or backward 1-2 albums in her oeuvre if yr still curious. the new one is nowhere near Confessions-level ecstasy.

warpaint album never really "clicked" w/ me but i like it when it's playing

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:36 (fourteen years ago)

Pitchfork: DNP

:O

skip, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:36 (fourteen years ago)

xpost me neither, for all the hype it just sounded like music.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:37 (fourteen years ago)

Yet to see anything I feel strongly about.

smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:38 (fourteen years ago)

enjoy the sound of warpaint while it's on but it never sticks with me - in isolation each cut flops slightly, i think the songs just aren't there? i guess they could make a better album in the future.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:38 (fourteen years ago)

I really like that Warpaint art but I once saw them on the cover of the NME - who to trust????

sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:39 (fourteen years ago)

Would've given "All the Lovers" big points if it had been nominated, tho.

If I had heard it before 10 minutes ago I would have too. Great song. "Get Outta My Way" didn't hit me at all on first listen mere moments ago.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:39 (fourteen years ago)

love warpaint's "elephants", with the noisy psychedelic guitar flourishes butting up against elements swiped of the raincoats. cool sound. didn't like any of the album tracks i subsequently heard anywhere near as much, so i never followed up. wanted very much to like them.

ELEFANTS

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:41 (fourteen years ago)

I can't even remember what Warpaint sound like now I come to think of it. I am thinking they're a bit like the YYYs or something?

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:42 (fourteen years ago)

"...swiped off the raincoats."

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:42 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv2-XaQdCI/AAAAAAAAAWc/q4PpDj8SoL4/sunaraw.jpg

69. SUN ARAW — On Patrol (252 points, 8 votes)
P&J: 168th
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

am quite enjoying warpaint!!

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

^^ awesome record

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

i like the album cover. what is it?

ciderpress, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:46 (fourteen years ago)

christ it's fucking long

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:47 (fourteen years ago)

NICE

I wasn't sure On Patrol was going to place. Love this album. Perfect when it was hot out. Great album to just chill and relax too.
nice to see 7 other people dug it as well

gman59, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:47 (fourteen years ago)

definitely never heard of this.

I am contributing to this thread.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:48 (fourteen years ago)

Warpaint are okay, nothing special. Will give them a bit more of a chance but just want to say COOL that Sun Araw made it - not heard the album but liked them a lot live.

emil.y, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:48 (fourteen years ago)

oh fuck this reminds me of that Popol Vuh track from "Nosferatu"

vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

Okay many many xposts. Really liked the first track on Third Eye Foundation, will listen to rest tmrw.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

I feel like all my favorite music this year either sounded like Spacemen 3 or Popol Vuh

vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

^^ awesome record

― the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, January 31, 2011 9:45 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

shit yah. #3 on my ballot, wasn't sure it'd place. and i thought you were into the epic jamz, lj. suffer for the art.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

sun araw is nice but not v special be kinda bummed if thats the most chillwave record itl

reimagining the 80s through death, yesterday. 'beach head' was better, w/e

Lamp, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

hahahaha I wasn't saying the length was a bad thing! am listening now.

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

I feel like all my favorite music this year either soundeds like Spacemen 3 or Popol Vuh

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

ya p much

vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:52 (fourteen years ago)

xp:

Sort of shame that Warpaint's The Fool didn't reprise "Elephant" and "Billy Holiday" off the Exquisite Corpse EP. As it is the album is too frontloaded for complete listenthrus. I don't mind their long proggy melodies, but would prefer a bit of tunefulness to leaven the dough of the long middle.

There is great disorder under heaven, the situation is excellent. (Sanpaku), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv2BdGADiI/AAAAAAAAAVs/Xvs7UiMPa08/noage.jpg

68. NO AGE — Everything in Between (256 points, 11 votes)
P&J: 36th
Pitchfork: 13th

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 17:58 (fourteen years ago)

^^ liked the 4-song No Age EP last year but haven't listened much to this yet

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

I have irrational dislike of No Age as I saw them doing a shitty shitty shit show full of reprehensible Vice-reading wankers and they came across as major-league assholes.

emil.y, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:00 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't get the fuss over No Age at all. I do like that album art, tho.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:00 (fourteen years ago)

One time I threw the guitarist from No Age into a pool. That was fun.

vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:01 (fourteen years ago)

the only no age show i've seen was w/ bob mould on vocals, doing lots of husker du covers-- was great

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:01 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTwD-qaLVyI/AAAAAAAAAZY/Bl_Vq9JQoxc/gayngs.jpg

67. GAYNGS — Relayted (258 points, 10 votes)
P&J: 461st
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:07 (fourteen years ago)

sun araw is pretty cool, 2 1/2 songs in!

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:08 (fourteen years ago)

no age were a blast when i saw them -- never got around to listening to this album for some reason -- still love weirdo rippers tho

lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:08 (fourteen years ago)

^^ naptiyme

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:08 (fourteen years ago)

gayngs album is cool, kinda overlong & all one mood but it def does have its high points

lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:09 (fourteen years ago)

i liked the gayngs track on traxlist, i'll have to check this out when i can

ciderpress, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:09 (fourteen years ago)

^^^

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:10 (fourteen years ago)

i wanted to like the album as a whole way more than i did -- sorta thing where "gaudy side of town" knocked me out, then i got into two other tracks & kinda expected the whole thing to stick but it never did -- i might've voted for it at the bottom of my ballot tho

lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:11 (fourteen years ago)

dig that kylie album a lot and it's very good running music, that and 'barking' were my workout jams this past year.

omar little, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:11 (fourteen years ago)

"cry" on the gayngs album is a cover right?

lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:12 (fourteen years ago)

The optimal time to hear this record is at 2am, preferably with a whiskey/coke and a pack of Camels (if you drink and/or smoke).

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:12 (fourteen years ago)

whoa this is flying huh

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:13 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, "Cry" is a Godley & Creme cover.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:13 (fourteen years ago)

some stuff i'd never heard of in the countdown so far; will check out tmrw prob

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:13 (fourteen years ago)

good cover

lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:14 (fourteen years ago)

don't like no age, which bothers me cuz it's exactly the sort of thing i think i ought to like. weirdo rippers was okay, nouns step or two down from that, and nothing i've heard from the new one has meant a thing to me. do plan to pick up the gayngs eventually, cuz i quite like both "the gaudy side of town" and their "cry" cover.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:18 (fourteen years ago)

Don't have time to keep up with this, I'll do a roundup post later on. Don't think anything I voted for has placed yet, though Sun Araw was a late cut from my ballot.

Sorry about the wrong Spotify link for TMOE!

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:19 (fourteen years ago)

here we go!

It feels like I only need one Zola Jesus song to get the whole idea.

unfortunately OTM, also the "she needs better backing band" comment

nothing else I feel very partial towards yet, guess I should check out Sun Araw.

sleeve, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:21 (fourteen years ago)

i can see sun araw being to yr tastes, sleeve

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:21 (fourteen years ago)

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66. GUCCI MANE — Mr. Zone 6 (260 points, 9 votes)
P&J: 352nd
Pitchfork: DNP

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:21 (fourteen years ago)

i still think that is a fairly dry & undynamic gucci release

*kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:22 (fourteen years ago)

((d-_-b))

i went crazy for this one back when it dropped like a whole damn year ago -- i still think it's one of the best rap albums of the last 3 years or so -- deej doesn't really agree w/ me tho

lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:23 (fourteen years ago)

good album cover imo

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:24 (fourteen years ago)

fyi deej an olive branch of sorts is extended here http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?showall=true&bookmarkedmessageid=2330791&boardid=77&threadid=69780

still feelin ashamed

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:24 (fourteen years ago)

i still think that is a fairly dry & undynamic gucci release

kind of agree - a few tracks aside it didn't grab me. i wonder if jewelry selection will place?

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:26 (fourteen years ago)

dont think so, this one got more love & i didnt vote

*kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:27 (fourteen years ago)

In my top 3. 'Normal', 'Rooftop', 'You Know What It Is' 'Makin Love To The Money'. Dropped during the World Cup and thus was the soundtrack to an incredibly happy time for me.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:27 (fourteen years ago)

'long money' is awesome

*kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:27 (fourteen years ago)

"long money" is the jam -- there's still some crazy ass writing on some of these songs

lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:28 (fourteen years ago)

we really shouldn't debate this again in public tho

lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:29 (fourteen years ago)

keep in in the goon thread, boys

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:29 (fourteen years ago)

what's the indie thread we're supposed to tell you to keep it in for your posts about 90% of the albums on this list?

some dude, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:31 (fourteen years ago)

liking a lot of this: "you know what it is", "long money", "mr. zone 6", "dats my life". think i prefer the first couple of those to "lemonade", which placed in trax poll. need to spend more time w it though.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

what's the indie thread we're supposed to tell you to keep it in for your posts about 90% of the albums on this list?

well considering i haven't voted for anything that's placed...

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

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65. SUN CITY GIRLS — Funeral Mariachi (260 points, 9 votes, 2 first place votes)
P&J: 71st
Pitchfork: DNP

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:35 (fourteen years ago)

^^what is that? title intrigues.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:39 (fourteen years ago)

last hurrah for weirdo experimental rock band. you prob wouldn't like.

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:40 (fourteen years ago)

I understand why people love these guys but their music has never grabbed me.

skip, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:40 (fourteen years ago)

SCG is a name I've seen mentioned for years and years, but I don't think I've ever heard a note.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:40 (fourteen years ago)

last hurrah for weirdo experimental rock band. you prob wouldn't like.

well considering lex took to swans... someone post a link to that record's best moment (i havent heard it yet) and let's see.....!

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

when i finally checked out torch of the mystics (which is where the uninitiated are generally told to start) i was underwhelmed.

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

yeah there's tons of similarities between swans and scg.

oh wait not really.

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:42 (fourteen years ago)

lex how do you feel abt spaghetti western scores?

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:42 (fourteen years ago)

yeah there's tons of similarities between swans and scg.

oh wait not really.

yr missing my point & probably realize that but w/e, at least you posted a "zing"

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:43 (fourteen years ago)

::sigh::

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:45 (fourteen years ago)

TOO LOW GOD DAMN IT

sleeve, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:46 (fourteen years ago)

this was the best record release last year imo

sleeve, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:46 (fourteen years ago)

lex how do you feel abt spaghetti western scores?

i like them i guess. i like mariachi touches. i don't mind noisy music, but i am pretty hungover today :/

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

i kinda forgot about it, i wish i'd voted for it!

omar little, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

xp eh give it a shot then

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

YOUTUBE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du0OvBTfKW4&playnext=1&list=PL0CB815C1A8CCFCB3

sleeve, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

dammit that was supposed to be a link! forgot abt the auto-embed, sorry y'all

sleeve, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

put this near the bottom of my albums ballot, glad it got some <3

skip the first track on it and there's nothing I'd call noisy on there (ymmv I guess)

Rogaine's a hell of a rug (DJ Mencap), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:49 (fourteen years ago)

I like SCG but their music has kind of been eclipsed by the other stuff they put out on the Sublime Frequencies label

Dan S, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:50 (fourteen years ago)

disagree strongly w/that, nothing on SF sounds like 'Dante's Disneyland inferno"

sleeve, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

Have been a fan of the Sun City Girls for years but I'm ashamed to say that I've still not heard that album. Did it get released on CD?

Only thing I've voted for so far is the Sun Araw which reminded me a fair bit of SCG in places.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

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64. THE RADIO DEPT. — Clinging to a Scheme (266 points, 11 votes)
P&J: 88th
Pitchfork: DNP

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

funeral mariachi definitely ranks among their finest work. should have placed higher.

sonderangerbot, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

great album! didnt vote for it tho

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

yes, Funeral Mariachi is now available on CD - nice gatefold mini-LP package. (xp)

sleeve, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:53 (fourteen years ago)

when i finally checked out torch of the mystics (which is where the uninitiated are generally told to start) i was underwhelmed.

― call all destroyer, Monday, January 31, 2011 10:41 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

take another chance on the new one, cad. i like torch, but funeral mariachi is far and away my favorite SCG. was my #1 pick here (and who else's?).

some tracks:

VINE STREET PIANO
BLACK ORCHID
BLUE WEST
HOLY GROUND

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:54 (fourteen years ago)

love Dante's Disneyland Inferno but it was 14 years ago, and there has been a flood of great stuff coming out of their label, I think 64 releases and counting

Dan S, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:54 (fourteen years ago)

voted for sun araw and no age. no age album really grew on me but it took a while.

listened to the sun city girls album once, thought it sounded pretty awesome at first but it's really samey tbh, kinda weird for a band that has so many sounds

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:55 (fourteen years ago)

i really like that sun city girls track! i love music with so much space in it and i love music that's evocative of deserts, this is both. fantastic feeling of stillness in it.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:56 (fourteen years ago)

wow i didn't know the radio dept. would be so big here. there are some cool tunes on that album.

cntndrzr i'll check those out later, thx.

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:56 (fourteen years ago)

xps -

Dan S, OK I see your point about how the label's where most of their creativity is going these days.

Contenderizer it was my #1 as well, as my good-natured outrage over its placing probably indicates

sleeve, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:56 (fourteen years ago)

the radio dept. (along with about half the trax results) makes me think that 2010 was waaaaay more 80s than i'd previously suspected

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:57 (fourteen years ago)

see also: chillwave

sleeve, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:57 (fourteen years ago)

kinda loving "heaven's on fire" though

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:58 (fourteen years ago)

SCG would've placed top 3 for me, if I had remembered to vote

^ probably more bullshit self-aggrandizement and non-essential info (Edward III), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:59 (fourteen years ago)

that and "Video Dept" are by far the best tracks on the album. Made the bottom of my top 25, great ambience but not enough top notch songs for such a short album.

skip, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:00 (fourteen years ago)

yeah that's basically how i feel about it.

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:02 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv3IS7DJPI/AAAAAAAAAW8/xnQzcCMNGyU/theknife.jpg

63. THE KNIFE — Tomorrow, In a Year (270 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
P&J: 232nd
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:05 (fourteen years ago)

excellent

omar little, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:05 (fourteen years ago)

Liking 2 of the SSG's youtubes posted itt. Moving onto the third now.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:06 (fourteen years ago)

that and "Video Dept" are by far the best tracks on the album. Made the bottom of my top 25, great ambience but not enough top notch songs for such a short album.

― skip, Monday, January 31, 2011 11:00 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

"a token of gratitude" is pretty nice, too, but yeah, a bit indistinct.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:06 (fourteen years ago)

Am listening to Sun City Girls, very good! Glad that sleeve and contenderizer's #1 made it, Rihanna further absolved. :)

Tomorrow, In A Year is really, really excellent. If I'd voted in March it'd have been my #1.

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:07 (fourteen years ago)

okay where are sun city girls from?! am just streaming "black orchid" now and was surprised to hear them singing in Malay/Bahasa Indonesia... they're random phrases that don't make that much sense though.

(songs are pretty great too, loving it so far).

Roz, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:07 (fourteen years ago)

Liking 2 of the SSG's youtubes posted itt. Moving onto the third now.

― waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Monday, January 31, 2011 11:06 AM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark

third might involve a hurdle, if it's "black orchid". fair warning.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:08 (fourteen years ago)

lol xp

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:08 (fourteen years ago)

they're from arizona originally but have famously mined music from se asia and elsewhere.

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

okay where are sun city girls from?!

they're from phoenix az but are from lebanese ancestry iirc

xp

^ probably more bullshit self-aggrandizement and non-essential info (Edward III), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

lewis's #1?

talk talk talk (diamonddave85), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:10 (fourteen years ago)

ah okay. It's kinda hilarious - it definitely sounds like people who have listened to indonesian songs without understanding them, just mimicking the phonetics.

Roz, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

It was 'black orchid' I was moving onto, and hey I really dug it.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

okay where are sun city girls from?!

AZ, as said. they are (or maybe were, depending on your view of such things) p much internationalists. one of em runs the sublime frequences label (world music shiz).

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:12 (fourteen years ago)

formed in Phoenix. the label is now in Seattle I think

Dan S, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:12 (fourteen years ago)

it definitely sounds like people who have listened to indonesian songs without understanding them, just mimicking the phonetics.

I think this is otm, you can also hear this approach in "Ben's Radio" off of the same LP.

sleeve, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:13 (fourteen years ago)

Listening to The Radio Dept. "Heaven's On Fire" and, while it's a good and catchy little ditty, I'm disappointed it's not a Kiss cover.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:13 (fourteen years ago)

The next album is going to make lex so happy...

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:13 (fourteen years ago)

xxp yeah at least one of the bishops is in seattle now

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:14 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv9Bp8g4mI/AAAAAAAAAY4/HZ0ZDHaSo_Q/thenational.jpg

62. THE NATIONAL — High Violet (270 points, 9 votes)
P&J: 8th
Pitchfork: 28th
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:14 (fourteen years ago)

ha

lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:14 (fourteen years ago)

jeez all of my votes are ending up in this 4th quintile. The first CD of the Knife is, well, difficult. But after you make it through the first half your hearing has adjusted and what might sound like the nine-minute academic exercises in isolation on the 2nd CD feel like you just put on Body Talk. This is serious electronic pop fronted by people who can actually sing. For all the justified whining about Tallest Man on Earth, this entire countdown is full of Tallest Men on Earth compared to the opera singers on TIAY. Real vocal performances are not something you get to hear in a pop context very often, especially when they involve people who are already so accomplished in the pop realm. I would pay a ton of money to hear this performed live.

skip, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

The next album is going to make lex so happy...

to see a band with such ridiculous consensus elsewhere place so low, yeah it does!

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:16 (fourteen years ago)

nice. tomorrow in a year. loved it so much

i dont get the national but whatever. this is a great list so far. im excited to check out sun city girls. ive heard a lot of great things but havnt checked them out yet

gman59, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:16 (fourteen years ago)

SCG have been doing world music fakeouts for a long time, this mariachi song from '87 contains the words "no habla espanol"

Youtube here

^ probably more bullshit self-aggrandizement and non-essential info (Edward III), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:17 (fourteen years ago)

keep hoping TIAY will come to the u.s. at some point but not holding my breath

omar little, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:17 (fourteen years ago)

T,IAY Disc One is fucking incredible. Much as Disc 2 has some wonderful highlights (well, all of it except 'Seeds' if we're being honest), Disc One is the kinda shit that gets me very, very excited.

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:17 (fourteen years ago)

and hey, 'Seeds' isn't bad at all

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

plz plz plz refrain from actually embedding youtubes

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

i still haven't felt compelled to listen to high violet despite enjoying previous ones, this has happened to me a bunch lately with my old indie favorites where i go from enthralled to apathetic in the time between consecutive albums. probably because all the cool shit i discover through ILX pushes it to the side in my mind

ciderpress, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:19 (fourteen years ago)

i dont get the national but whatever.

I've liked 'em in the past, but High Violet is dullsville. zzzzzz

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:20 (fourteen years ago)

Are we just going down to 61 today JF?

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:20 (fourteen years ago)

am still rly liking SCG

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

d'oh sorry bout yt embed

but it's cool that the placing of their swansong here is turning a bunch of ppl on to SCG, funeral mariachi is a perfect starter's portal to their bizarro world

honestly it was between that and swans alb for #1 of last year for me, and I listen to funeral mariachi way more than it takes a rope of miles for my father to guide me up to the sky

^ probably more bullshit self-aggrandizement and non-essential info (Edward III), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

The first CD of the Knife is, well, difficult. But after you make it through the first half your hearing has adjusted and what might sound like the nine-minute academic exercises in isolation on the 2nd CD feel like you just put on Body Talk.

100% agree, otm

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

honestly it was between that and swans alb for #1 of last year for me, and I listen to funeral mariachi way more than it takes a rope of miles for my father to guide me up to the sky

my experience as well, also lol at Swans title rewrite

sleeve, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

everything i've heard off that knifeco record has been impressive, if less than immediate. dug "colouring of pigeons" when it showed up in trax, and am currently digging "annie's box". gorgeous mix of vocal and instrumental tones. i never gave it a chance because so many people wrote it off as soundtracky dabbling, but this is v impressive. and "seeds" is off to a good start, too.

would snag

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

overreliance on dig/dug/impressive

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:24 (fourteen years ago)

Are we just going down to 61 today JF?

Yup.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:24 (fourteen years ago)

am currently digging "annie's box".

be sure to check out both versions if you haven't already! there's one version w/ "fever ray" person on vox and another w/ the opera person that dominates the rest of the album

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:25 (fourteen years ago)

contenderizer, wait til you hear 'epochs', my god

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:26 (fourteen years ago)

'holy ground' is the most gorgeous of all the SCG tracks so far - <3

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:27 (fourteen years ago)

SCG would make sense as part of my 2% of music taste overlap w/ ljag (see also foetus)

^ probably more bullshit self-aggrandizement and non-essential info (Edward III), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:29 (fourteen years ago)

this thread has definitely made me want to go back and listen to the SCG disc again

Dan S, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:30 (fourteen years ago)

btw as with the rihanna, nobody is leaping in the defence of the national. it would make my day if someone would cogently defend it from their perspective :P

ed3, 2% is somewhat underselling it! the fall alone make up like 2% of my taste haha

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:30 (fourteen years ago)

it's a fair cop

anybody wondering where to get funeral mariachi, I bought a CD copy as a gift for a friend from effin best buy, so it's not exactly an obscure release

^ probably more bullshit self-aggrandizement and non-essential info (Edward III), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:32 (fourteen years ago)

Edward III must have an awesome Best Buy that hasn't yet been slashed down to one aisle of Top 40 only releases.

(xpost)

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:35 (fourteen years ago)

btw as with the rihanna, nobody is leaping in the defence of the national.

Guessing that people aren't gonna come looking for a beatdown. Would you? (Well, yes you would, but you're thick-skinned.)

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:35 (fourteen years ago)

Ah, I assumed this thread was moving much faster than it is!

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:35 (fourteen years ago)

i have defended high violet elsewhere; don't really know if i'm in the mood to do it again

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:37 (fourteen years ago)

have a glass of red wine

lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:38 (fourteen years ago)

Defend it by suggesting one track you think is good, and I'll listen to it

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:38 (fourteen years ago)

btw as with the rihanna, nobody is leaping in the defence of the national.

to quote rihanna: I'll drink to that

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:38 (fourteen years ago)

Ready for #61?

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:39 (fourteen years ago)

depends -- is it any good?

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:39 (fourteen years ago)

have a glass of red wine

― lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, January 31, 2011 2:38 PM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark

lol

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:39 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTvzpk0y9VI/AAAAAAAAAT4/HLICzoXm72w/enslaved.jpg

61. ENSLAVED — Axioma Ethica Odini (272 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
P&J: 127th
Pitchfork: DNP

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:39 (fourteen years ago)

metal, I'm guessing

Jeff W, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:40 (fourteen years ago)

someone shd fakepost MBDTF in at like 53 tomorrow

OH MY

great album, could well have voted for it if I'd given it more listens beforehand

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:40 (fourteen years ago)

metal yes but metal chock-full of TUNES

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:40 (fourteen years ago)

Whoohoo!

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:40 (fourteen years ago)

there are three enslaved albums better than that one, but it's still one of my favourites from 2010

charlie h, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

yay

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:42 (fourteen years ago)

for those wondering if they might like Enslaved (myself included!), here's a list of Similar Artists from Allmusic.com

Similar Artists

* Darkthrone
* Mayhem
* Burzum
* Carnivore
* Death
* Exodus
* Napalm Death
* Nuclear Assault
* Overkill
* Possessed
* Prong
* Sanctuary
* Testament
* Cancer
* Deicide
* Obituary
* Edge of Sanity
* Vader
* Vital Remains
* Souls at Zero

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:42 (fourteen years ago)

It's fun to be able to knock out tge only stuff on my ballot I thought might place on the first day (Harvey milk, third eye foundation and enslaved). Going to be a rough one from here on out though.

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:42 (fourteen years ago)

that enslaved album is really really good

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:43 (fourteen years ago)

jjj - your'e ahead of me. Nothing has placed from my ballot.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:43 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah that list of similar artists is mostly wrong imo.

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:43 (fourteen years ago)

there's one version w/ "fever ray" person on vox and another w/ the opera person that dominates the rest of the album

― the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, January 31, 2011 11:25 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

have only heard the "opera person" version, love it.

re lj: checking "epochs". starting slow & low... god, i just LOVE the combo of operatic vocals and dark industrial drones. sudden dubstep!

don't get the dismissal of "seeds" though. takes its time, but eventually builds up quite a head of steam. love the housey boonka-boonk and doubled vocals towards the end. needs some ghetto bass, but other than that...

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:43 (fourteen years ago)

yeah that similar artists thing just looks like a random list of metal bands to me.

charlie h, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

I mean they are similar in the sense of "these are bands that are also metal bands" but that's a pretty broad brushstroke

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:45 (fourteen years ago)

Ha xpost

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:45 (fourteen years ago)

It's fun to be able to knock out tge only stuff on my ballot I thought might place on the first day (Harvey milk, third eye foundation and enslaved). Going to be a rough one from here on out though.

hehe this applies to me too (3EF, The Knife) and yeah, am hoping to make some cool discoveries but the top 50 is gonna be mostly other ppls business

btw I'd advise a listen for all those into prog, BM or noisy melodicism. if not then ymmv

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:45 (fourteen years ago)

Edward III must have an awesome Best Buy that hasn't yet been slashed down to one aisle of Top 40 only releases.

er, .com, still

^ probably more bullshit self-aggrandizement and non-essential info (Edward III), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:46 (fourteen years ago)

Okay, looking forward to people's critiques in list form (j/k this isn't as easy to do with albums as it is trax)

77. HARVEY MILK — A Small Turn of Human Kindness (240 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
76. QUADRON — Quadron (240 points, 12 votes)
75. RIHANNA — Loud (244 points, 9 votes)
74. ZOLA JESUS — Stridulum II (244 points, 10 votes)
73. THIRD EYE FOUNDATION — The Dark (246 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes)
(TIE) 71. THE TALLEST MAN ON EARTH — The Wild Hunt (250 points, 8 votes)
(TIE) 71. KYLIE MINOGUE — Aphrodite (250 points, 8 votes)
70. WARPAINT — The Fool (250 points, 9 votes)
69. SUN ARAW — On Patrol (252 points, 8 votes)
68. NO AGE — Everything in Between (256 points, 11 votes)
67. GAYNGS — Relayted (258 points, 10 votes)
66. GUCCI MANE — Mr. Zone 6 (260 points, 9 votes)
65. SUN CITY GIRLS — Funeral Mariachi (260 points, 9 votes, 2 first place votes)
64. THE RADIO DEPT. — Clinging to a Scheme (266 points, 11 votes)
63. THE KNIFE — Tomorrow, In a Year (270 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
62. THE NATIONAL — High Violet (270 points, 9 votes)
61. ENSLAVED — Axioma Ethica Odini (272 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:46 (fourteen years ago)

^^^awesome music itl

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:47 (fourteen years ago)

that enslaved album is really really good

― call all destroyer, Monday, January 31, 2011 11:43 AM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark

yup. didn't vote for it, but easily might have. only means that i break ties by going with my sentimental favorites. glad metal cru got a couple in. still hoping for christian mistress & black breath, but prob foolishly.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:47 (fourteen years ago)

lj re: the nat'l, try "afraid of everyone" (i'm in a meeting and am not tracking down links, sry to be difficult). one of the stronger melodies on the record imo.

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

Nothing has placed from my ballot yet, but a few things I like/am interested by have come up.

Looking over my ballot, there are two I'm almost definite will come up, about three or four I'd expect to see, and the rest I will eat my hat if they show up.

emil.y, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

still can't read the BM acronym without thinking the person is into scat, yes I'm 12

^ probably more bullshit self-aggrandizement and non-essential info (Edward III), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

basically to like the nat'l you have to

a) like dude's voice
b) agree they have a knack for simple but effective vocal melody
c) treat their wallpapery music as an aggressive aesthetic decision

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:49 (fourteen years ago)

I voted Harvey Milk and 3rd Eye Foundation, and liked The Knife. Need to listen to (most of) the others.

Neil S, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:49 (fourteen years ago)

the people I've played that Quadron disc for have liked it so much that it's made me like it more, too. It's one of the discs this year that's associated with the happiest memories.

Dan S, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:50 (fourteen years ago)

xxp The National are like Tindersticks with all the rough edges sanded off IMO.

Neil S, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:50 (fourteen years ago)

I like the noisy melodicism of bowel movements

^ probably more bullshit self-aggrandizement and non-essential info (Edward III), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:50 (fourteen years ago)

aka the national

^ probably more bullshit self-aggrandizement and non-essential info (Edward III), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:50 (fourteen years ago)

checking the national - "afraid of everyone". lovely sound, but i think i just don't much like where they're coming from. dirge coldplay is not my thing.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

Things I think are *brilliant* out of that lot: T3EF, The Knife
Things I love out of that lot: Enslaved
Things I am *intrigued* by: Sun City Girls, Harvey Milk, Warpaint Sun Araw
Things I am interested to hear more of: Quadron, The Tallest Man On Earth, Kylie Minogue
Things I will check out later: The Radio Dept, No Age

all in all, fucken A

and now I listen to The National

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

basically to like the nat'l you have to

a) like dude's voice
b) agree they have a knack for simple but effective vocal melody
c) treat their wallpapery music as an aggressive aesthetic decision

a) take NPR or Pitchfork's music recommendations seriously
b) enjoy boring indie bands like the Walkmen, Arcade Fire, Band of Horses and Wilco
c) you're white btw

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:55 (fourteen years ago)

I voted the Christian Mistress record ~high as hell~ and enough others said good things about it that it wouldn't amaze me if it turned up in say the next five things on the countdown

Rogaine's a hell of a rug (DJ Mencap), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:55 (fourteen years ago)

the radio dept album so good. near the top of my ballot.

Mordy, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:55 (fourteen years ago)

hah this list is great

Jacka Laroo and Tyler Too (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:56 (fourteen years ago)

feel like this would be a good time for any non-white enthusiasts of The National to post xps

Rogaine's a hell of a rug (DJ Mencap), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:56 (fourteen years ago)

most of my face is obscured with dark hair but sadly I am not liking this. you could have won my heart, the national, but you blew it

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:57 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i didn't really see you liking them dude

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:58 (fourteen years ago)

did not vote for them in this btw

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:58 (fourteen years ago)

The National's best album (and likely best entry point) was Alligator. imo they should've broken up immediately after it was released.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:58 (fourteen years ago)

Everyone has at least two albums showing up in the top 77 btw.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:58 (fourteen years ago)

a) take NPR or Pitchfork's music recommendations seriously
b) enjoy boring indie bands like the Walkmen, Arcade Fire, Band of Horses and Wilco
c) you're white btw

all good heuristics for guessing whether a particular individual likes the National, but not an explanation of why someone might like the national (unless you believe your skin color is what helps certain music sound good)

Mordy, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:58 (fourteen years ago)

c) you're white btw

p.s. - there actually are some white ppl who post (or at least lurk) on ILX, FYI

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:59 (fourteen years ago)

That said, there are enough neat production touches in The National that I can see why they'd be effective in certain situations. Just doesn't have much bite to it, it's got a kinda studied softness instead. As you said, really.

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 19:59 (fourteen years ago)

Everyone has at least two albums showing up in the top 77 btw.

GOOD NEWS E'RYBODY

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:00 (fourteen years ago)

I still don't know what the Radio Dept. is, and that's despite seeing their name around for what seems like years. What is it that they do?

seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:00 (fourteen years ago)

Think of all the really good albums that would have missed out if the poll was only top 50 as usual. Thanks JF & co for expanding it!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:00 (fourteen years ago)

Ooooh, I listened to the first radio dept today, will check that out

sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:00 (fourteen years ago)

have not fully caught up on thread but Sun Araw above Rihanna = I love you guyz after all

(can't actually remember if I voted for it seeing as I like it but it is no Beach Head)

back to yr scheduled ragging on indie dudes for being indie (oh hai)

cellular nekomata (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:00 (fourteen years ago)

Things I think are *brilliant* out of that lot: The Knife
Things I love out of that lot: Zola Jesus, Sun Araw, The Radio Dept.
Things I am *intrigued* by and/or interested to hear more of: Harvey Milk (new album, <3 them in general), Quadron, Warpaint (need to listen again), No Age (same), Sun City Girls
Things I will check out later: Third Eye Foundation, Enslaved
Things that didn't click w/ me already: Rihanna (love her, just not this album), Kylie (same)
Things that make me really go zzzzzz: The Tallest Man on Earth, Gayngs, Gucci Mane(quality over quantity plz, enough f-ing mixtapes already), The National

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:00 (fourteen years ago)

Everyone has at least two albums showing up in the top 77 btw.

― Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Monday, January 31, 2011 11:58 AM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark

nice! ILX, where no contestant goes home empty-handed.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:01 (fourteen years ago)

all good heuristics for guessing whether a particular individual likes the National

that's all i was going for! (well, and lolz)

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:01 (fourteen years ago)

Things that make me really go zzzzzz: ilxor posts

*kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:02 (fourteen years ago)

I still don't know what the Radio Dept. is, and that's despite seeing their name around for what seems like years. What is it that they do?

They make some polite, kind of electronic-based, Swedish pop music with some '80s ghosts hovering in the background.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:02 (fourteen years ago)

another day on ilx, another deej zing to ilxor. get over yrself

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:02 (fourteen years ago)

deeeeeej

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:02 (fourteen years ago)

so much for less beef in 2011, amirite?

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:03 (fourteen years ago)

anyway: resume talking about albums, stop giving deej attention, plz

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:03 (fourteen years ago)

i haven't gone back to the national album a lot but i was really into it over the summer (and iirc, i voted for it on my ballot). there's a kind of epic desperation in the songs. esp love the "i still owe money to the money to the money i owe" which turns all my economic anxiety into something like a dirge.

Mordy, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:03 (fourteen years ago)

i think we all rly need to meet for an irl drink, wd prevent these episodes

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

Everyone has at least two albums showing up in the top 77 btw.

am v curious as to what my 2nd album is!

list skewed a lot weirder than i expected so far still mostly stuff i dont care abt tho

Lamp, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

i think we all rly need to meet for an irl drink, wd prevent these episodes

hah, think deej/whiney and think again

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

Is that it for today? Just getting warmed up. Listening to Third Eye Foundation, so far pretty darn good, love the way its so busy yet so calm. I doubt if it would make my 25 but it's a keeper.

Never got around to checking the new National, after wasting time on their earlier material. If this can't crack the top 60 I doubt if that will swing it for me.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

77. HARVEY MILK — A Small Turn of Human Kindness (240 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote) Hey, that's that band Whiney really likes
76. QUADRON — Quadron (240 points, 12 votes) never heard of them, a few songs sound nice
75. RIHANNA — Loud (244 points, 9 votes) I downloaded this and listened to it maybe 3x. I liked "Whats My Name"
74. ZOLA JESUS — Stridulum II (244 points, 10 votes) I can't love this after hearing Glasser
73. THIRD EYE FOUNDATION — The Dark (246 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes) idk
(TIE) 71. THE TALLEST MAN ON EARTH — The Wild Hunt (250 points, 8 votes) shrug
(TIE) 71. KYLIE MINOGUE — Aphrodite (250 points, 8 votes) I used to like that "I need your love" bit in "Can't Get You Out Of My Head"
70. WARPAINT — The Fool (250 points, 9 votes) I tried to listen to this like 4x and always got distracted
69. SUN ARAW — On Patrol (252 points, 8 votes) that one song rules! Maybe I should hear this
68. NO AGE — Everything in Between (256 points, 11 votes) They're okay. Had 0 interest in hearing this album
67. GAYNGS — Relayted (258 points, 10 votes) zzzzngs
66. GUCCI MANE — Mr. Zone 6 (260 points, 9 votes) yawn mane
65. SUN CITY GIRLS — Funeral Mariachi (260 points, 9 votes, 2 first place votes) I rly, rly need to get into SGC
64. THE RADIO DEPT. — Clinging to a Scheme (266 points, 11 votes) iunno
63. THE KNIFE — Tomorrow, In a Year (270 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote) The Knife made an album this year??
62. THE NATIONAL — High Violet (270 points, 9 votes) Haven't really paid attention since "Alligator" which was ok
61. ENSLAVED — Axioma Ethica Odini (272 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote) is this some metal shit?

vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:05 (fourteen years ago)

omg The National released a song called 'Runaway' too

poll

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:06 (fourteen years ago)

74. ZOLA JESUS — Stridulum II (244 points, 10 votes) I can't love this after hearing Glasser

this kinda makes sense! you could describle zola jesus as glasser - rhythmic complexity + goth. though i disagree w/ not being able to love both of them, as i do.

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:07 (fourteen years ago)

the national not a bad pick for latepassitis thread imo, alligator stands tall over their others but boxer was the crossover moment iirc

ciderpress, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:08 (fourteen years ago)

As far as Enslaved, I think the empath math kicks out a better similarity list:

http://furia.com/em/band104.html

0.219 17 Immortal
0.188 10 Satyricon
0.179 13 Gorgoroth
0.154 8 Anathema
0.153 5 Sólstafir
0.143 9 Hypocrisy
0.135 5 Altar of Plagues
0.135 10 Amon Amarth
0.128 8 1349
0.127 5 Kampfar
0.126 8 Ulver
0.123 5 Shining
0.121 13 Darkthrone
0.120 5 Cult of Luna
0.117 7 Destruction
0.117 6 Beherit

But both lists are talking about the band as a whole. Circa the last two albums a shorter description would be "a black-metal Pink Floyd".

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

anyway: resume talking about albums, stop giving deej attention, plz

― the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, January 31, 2011 2:03 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

stop

*kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

i like the 2010 shining album and last 3 or so ulver ones, do those compare nicely or not?

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

*st0p*

ciderpress, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

Things that make me really go zzzzzz: ilxor posts

I want to virtually staple this to deej's forehead so we can all point at it when he starts to pretend he's all innocent about attacking other people.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:16 (fourteen years ago)

for chrissakes ignore them

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:16 (fourteen years ago)

maybe he was talking about ilx in general

^ probably more bullshit self-aggrandizement and non-essential info (Edward III), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:17 (fourteen years ago)

lol ilxor you expect me to answer that one?! ;)

heeee um er er er the Ulver album it's most similar to is Bergtatt tbh. and the Shining album has a completely different aesthetic (jazzy industrial-pop noisefuck). really what it is, is melodic trad BM but with really gorgeous production and a sense of *spacious grandeur*, and proggy structures. it kicks ass.

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:17 (fourteen years ago)

I need to hear Beach Head. On Patrol was top 10 for me, love that album

Dan S, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:18 (fourteen years ago)

I want to virtually staple this to deej's forehead so we can all point at it when he starts to pretend he's all innocent about attacking other people.

― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, January 31, 2011 2:16 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dude posts too damn much & his opinions are, like, entirely content-free
im sure dude is a nice guy once he stops the posting diarrhea but its outta control & i say this w/ full self awareness that plenty of ppl dont like my posts here. but yeesh man. its just a constant stream

*kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:19 (fourteen years ago)

77. HARVEY MILK — A Small Turn of Human Kindness -- good, but far from my favorite HM
76. QUADRON — Quadron -- pretty! want to hear the rest
75. RIHANNA — Loud -- eh, trax in the other poll were just okay
74. ZOLA JESUS — Stridulum II -- <3<3<3, but do agree that she could stand to push herself in the songwriting dept.
73. THIRD EYE FOUNDATION — The Dark -- zzzzzzzzz
71. THE TALLEST MAN ON EARTH — The Wild Hunt -- better than i'd like to admit, but nah
71. KYLIE MINOGUE — Aphrodite -- zzzzzzzzz
70. WARPAINT — The Fool -- want to like them, but nothing on the album stands up to "elephant"
69. SUN ARAW — On Patrol -- ! F U C K ! Y E S !
68. NO AGE — Everything in Between -- zzzzzzzz
67. GAYNGS — Relayted -- color me curious...
66. GUCCI MANE — Mr. Zone 6 -- like basically everything i've heard off this mixtape, will DL
65. SUN CITY GIRLS — Funeral Mariachi -- record of the year
64. THE RADIO DEPT. — Clinging to a Scheme -- nice. kinda of empty, but definitely easy on the ears
63. THE KNIFE — Tomorrow, In a Year -- the best 2010 album i haven't heard yet?
62. THE NATIONAL — High Violet -- zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
61. ENSLAVED — Axioma Ethica Odini -- rah, rah, like a dungeon dragon

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:19 (fourteen years ago)

I spoke too soon, onto the fourth track of the TEF album and it is really great.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:20 (fourteen years ago)

deej your bad posts are a self-fulfilling prophecy. at least i'm trying to talk about music (idiotically) when i make mine.

told ya dods, 'closure' is an emotional apotheosis to rule them all

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:20 (fourteen years ago)

66. GUCCI MANE — Mr. Zone 6 -- like basically everything i've heard off this mixtape, will DL

this really isnt the best place to start imo -- im sure that even zone 6's backers would agree w/ that

*kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:21 (fourteen years ago)

no offence deej but your posts are way more a constant stream than ilxors

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:21 (fourteen years ago)

id love to know ilxor and deej's postcounts mind you.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:22 (fourteen years ago)

Do we have to get into this?

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:22 (fourteen years ago)

i have heard none of these albums

a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:23 (fourteen years ago)

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSuels2Z27q-xLeEOBXVyd3wTkm0oxMTt3PQ01wcKu8vlW43Y1B

*kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:23 (fourteen years ago)

Everyone has at least two albums showing up in the top 77 btw.

The problem with this is I know one of them will be my bottom pick, which I probably should have replaced with something better.

emil.y, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:23 (fourteen years ago)

HAY DEEJ:

recommend a couple other gucci mixtapes for beginners. i dowloaded diplo presents a while back cuz i thought it might be a decent overview (despicable me), but i wasn't into it.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:26 (fourteen years ago)

THE FUCK

lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:27 (fourteen years ago)

"i downloaded a remix album by a shitty dj unassociated with the act, but surprisingly that was NOT a good place to start"

lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:28 (fourteen years ago)

'burrrprint 3d' would probably be a good place to start

*kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:28 (fourteen years ago)

dude posts too damn much & his opinions are, like, entirely content-free

except that the post you replied to was a rundown of what i thought of diff albums in this thread, which was content-based, and also not dissimilar from the album/trax summaries that every other person is posting in these year-end poll threads. so there's no reason to single me out, except that you dislike me. in summary: yr an idiot & plz fuck off and stop replying to my posts if you don't like them

oh and sorry i didnt care about that gucci mixtape, it really does prob suck tho (dont care enough to waste time finding it)

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:28 (fourteen years ago)

anyway his best mixtape is 'burrprint 3' which placed last year

after that it would really be assorted tracks but you would also prob dig 'the state vs radric davis' which is his first real album after he blew up -- it's not as good as his mixtape but it has some really good & prob more straightforward stuff

lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:29 (fourteen years ago)

i dont 'dislike you,' i have no concept of who you are

*kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:29 (fourteen years ago)

after that 'from zone 6 to duval' has a lot of his best stuff from 08 or so but it's a bit less accessible

lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:30 (fourteen years ago)

y'all are a bunch of fucking babies

lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:30 (fourteen years ago)

well since we're "friends" on fac3book it's probably not too difficult to find out, is it?

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:31 (fourteen years ago)

Seriously, would you guys shut up or move it to email or something? NO ONE ELSE IS INTERESTED IN YOUR LOVERS SPAT.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:31 (fourteen years ago)

ban them from this thread dude

omar little, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:31 (fourteen years ago)

i'm done posting about it

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:31 (fourteen years ago)

"i downloaded a remix album by a shitty dj unassociated with the act, but surprisingly that was NOT a good place to start"

everybody knows i'm straight fuxxor, so i dunno why you gotta act all surprise

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:32 (fourteen years ago)

go into your respective corners~

omar little, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:32 (fourteen years ago)

i'm not necessarily surprised tbh

lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:33 (fourteen years ago)

im not beefing with ilxor. im just asking him to relax with the constant posting.

*kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:33 (fourteen years ago)

Physician heal thyself

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:33 (fourteen years ago)

tx, jordan. will check BP3, vs. radric davis and Z62duvall.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:34 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.thesnort.com/pics/slapfight.gif

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:35 (fourteen years ago)

Physician heal thyself

― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, January 31, 2011 2:33 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ive been here how many years & yall are treating my like im a poster on par w/ ilxor? wtf

*kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

hey contenderizer

i think this link is still active -- i would run thru this stuff as well, it's more of a best of, altho almost all of burrprint is classic

09 (wasted not incl since it's v readily available)

first day out
weird
she got a friend
gorgeous
30 inches remix
wonderful
wrist gliss
ice
birds
everything

08

grapey
running back
like a lambo
nickelodeon
photo shoot
hot damn
rims dancin
light show
colors
haunted house

― nog right (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:41 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

if you want to cherry pick

poppier stuff

she got a friend, weird, grapey, running back, like a lambo, photo shoot

more str8 ahead mc-ing

first day out, gorgeous, 30 inches remix, birds, nickelodeon light show, rims dancin

dark, druggy, haunting stuff

ice, birds, everything, colors, haunted house

― nog right (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, November 10, 2009 1:46 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark

lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

It doesn't matter how much seniority you have when you're contributing to a nuisance squabble. xp

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:39 (fourteen years ago)

whoops -- the link there is this

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?imdmzddiyzi

it's a gucci primer i made & posted in the gucci thread

lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:40 (fourteen years ago)

w/e if you guys are happy w/ ilxor's posting then have fun

*kl0p* (deej), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:41 (fourteen years ago)

weird = my fav gucci tune of them all

sammy bagels (a hoy hoy), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:41 (fourteen years ago)

i think this link is still active

searched on text strings and found that link. DLing 4 chris.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:43 (fourteen years ago)

w/e if you guys are happy w/ ilxor's posting then have fun

again-- i posted my rundown of thoughts on album #s 77-61 like many others have done in thread. singling out my post is just beef for the sake of beef, unless yr also going to piss & moan about everyone else that's done it here. chill the f out dude

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:44 (fourteen years ago)

that TTMOE record is very good. k he's not changing the face of music (and isn't trying to), but he is nevertheless highly adept at crafting thoughtful, incisive tunes that benefit from the cursory, arms-length way they are presented. he's a very nice chap as well.

charlie h, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:45 (fourteen years ago)

holy shit u 2 no one is scoring ur snarks atm. one of you be the bigger ilx-poster and just drop it without having to get the last word in.

Mordy, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:45 (fourteen years ago)

jesus guys, just give it a rest. not having the last word is OK.

skip, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:45 (fourteen years ago)

that national record on the other hand is insipid and flat

charlie h, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:46 (fourteen years ago)

that's a great Gucci primer. I downloaded it the first time you posted it

Dan S, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:46 (fourteen years ago)

but alligator remains classic

charlie h, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:46 (fourteen years ago)

Enslaved's 'The Beacon' is such ass-kick.

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:46 (fourteen years ago)

just making sure i get the last word in, tbh

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:47 (fourteen years ago)

it's weird about the national bc i really didn't care for alligator + liked only a couple songs of boxer but i responded to the new one in a big way. i wonder if there's something they're embracing that makes me more interested in them even as it pushes other people off the national-train. (can't speculate what that thing might be-- what is it that people itt responded more to in alligator that they aren't hearing in high violet?)

Mordy, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:47 (fourteen years ago)

was that comp made for a notably irritable ILXor?

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:49 (fourteen years ago)

Seriously, would you guys shut up or move it to email or something? NO ONE ELSE IS INTERESTED IN YOUR LOVERS SPAT.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:31 (11 minutes ago

OTM. Since it's Johnny's thread and his poll I'm going to give both of you a time out of this thread. It's going to get long and unwieldy enough without yet more inane beefing on it.

Matt DC, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:49 (fourteen years ago)

Alligator has a broader scope imo. From the subtlety of "Soho Riots" to the bombast of "Abel" to the vibrant upward ladder that is "Mr. November," it just pushes all my buttons in a way the two albums since haven't done.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:49 (fourteen years ago)

i've never heard alligator but i do think the new one is much much better than boxer

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

OTM. Since it's Johnny's thread and his poll I'm going to give both of you a time out of this thread. It's going to get long and unwieldy enough without yet more inane beefing on it.

― Matt DC, Monday, January 31, 2011 3:49 PM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark

omg my hero

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

I liked High Violet, though not as much as Boxer. Didn't like Alligator at the time and still don't.

For me, it's all about the drummer. I like listening to the guy play. The rest is various textures and shades that compliment him.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

yeah he is excellent for sure

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:51 (fourteen years ago)

alligator is interesting because lyrically he comes across as an arrogant jerk (but a self-aware one) for the whole album and that 'persona' of sorts got muted quite a bit with boxer

ciderpress, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:56 (fourteen years ago)

lyrically he comes across as an arrogant jerk (but a self-aware one)

Yeah, there's something a little Afghan Whigs-y about his character.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 20:58 (fourteen years ago)

recommend a couple other gucci mixtapes for beginners. i dowloaded diplo presents a while back cuz i thought it might be a decent overview (despicable me), but i wasn't into it.

― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, January 31, 2011 3:26 PM (38 minutes ago)

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1238157980_scanners_-_head_explosion.gif

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:06 (fourteen years ago)

i'm trying to mentally lump the national in with the whole quiet storm thing now, i.e. smooth loungey music juxtaposed w/ biting, sarcastic lyrics. that stuff's all critic-bait these days it seems.

ciderpress, Monday, 31 January 2011 21:06 (fourteen years ago)

Always funny. xp

Johnny Fever, Monday, 31 January 2011 21:06 (fourteen years ago)

not sure who you have in mind but the nat'l are much more interesting rhythmically than most bands that could be called "loungey"

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 21:07 (fourteen years ago)

74. ZOLA JESUS — Stridulum II (244 points, 10 votes) I can't love this after hearing Glasser

Yeah, there's an obvious comparison to be made there - both from LA (I think), both mixing fantastic voices with electronics - but they're also kind of night and day. I do in general like the fruity sort of Baudelairian gothy-ness that Zola Jesus evokes - that whole pungent over-ripeness, like you can sense the spores of mould and mildew yet to bloom on the skin of the music. There's a few tracks on Stridulum II (Night, Sea Talk, I Can't Stand) where the songs feel epic enough to take that sort of treatment, but with a lot of the rest of it though, the material is just weak and the arrangements lifeless and dirgey, so it all ends up as this soupy splodge.

Glasser on the other hand is more playful and the music is much more intricate. I started off with that album at the bottom of my ballot, but every time I listened to it before submitting it would creep up another couple of spots. Took a while to fully appreciate, and I think it was top five for me in the end. Good record, sure we'll get to talk about it on Wednesday Thursday (fingers-crossed).

seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:08 (fourteen years ago)

OTOH I voted for Sun Araw and the Knife, so maybe that's my full allocation used up already.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:10 (fourteen years ago)

Zola Jesus is from Ann Arbor, Michigan iirc

sleeve, Monday, 31 January 2011 21:19 (fourteen years ago)

i thought she was from wisconsin?

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 21:20 (fourteen years ago)

wait no it's Madison WI xp

sleeve, Monday, 31 January 2011 21:20 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not a big fan of The National or "Bloodbuzz Ohio", but it doesn't seem at all weird to me that some people enjoy the song. It's kind of like a cross between Chris Isaac and Frightened Rabbit, with a little of the Cure's atmospheric vibe without the Robert Smith trebly plaintiveness. Dark, chiming, resonant, moody, wistful, understated. Interesting drumming, as noted above, and I like the tendrils of piano.

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 31 January 2011 21:21 (fourteen years ago)

that's a v. good description glenn!

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 21:21 (fourteen years ago)

I liked mine better

^ probably more bullshit self-aggrandizement and non-essential info (Edward III), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:25 (fourteen years ago)

74. ZOLA JESUS — Stridulum II (244 points, 10 votes) - voted for this, probably to high tbh. I listened to it again a couple of days ago and got bored of it. I like her post-punk-gothness though.
73. THIRD EYE FOUNDATION — The Dark (246 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes) - God, I remember Semtex, that was fucking ace. Had a quick listen to this and couldn't get in. All the wailing and moaning in the background put me off. I'll give it another bash.
(TIE) 71. KYLIE MINOGUE — Aphrodite (250 points, 8 votes) - I suppose I still harbour a fondness for Kylie, but have no real interest in hearing this. "All the Lovers" reminded me of Erasure or something.
70. WARPAINT — The Fool (250 points, 9 votes) - Voted for this. Again, probably too high but as it only snuck in at #70 I'm glad I did. It deserves to take its place as a notable album of 2010.
67. GAYNGS — Relayted (258 points, 10 votes) - I gave this a go when that one track appeared on the tracks list. I liked that track but didn't think the rest of it stood up as well, on first listen at least.
64. THE RADIO DEPT. — Clinging to a Scheme (266 points, 11 votes) - I don't think this made it onto my final ballot. I quite liked this, just didn't listen to it too much. I think Lesser Matters may be all the Radio Dept I need.
62. THE NATIONAL — High Violet (270 points, 9 votes) - lol at the Tindersticks comparison someone made above. I can see where they were coming from, but though I LOVE Tindersticks I feel absolutely nothing when I listen to this. I'll pass.

Danzig, with tears in my eyes (DavidM), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:35 (fourteen years ago)

Hm, 77-61 I have not yet listened to any of these all the way through.
I've been way more singles oriented this past year.

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:37 (fourteen years ago)

i thought she was from wisconsin?

My mistake, thought I read she was based in LA. Goddamn lies.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:38 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i have not heard a single one of these. i just downloaded quadron though

always meant to listed to the rihanna but being busy/lukewarm reaction around here meant i never did. i do really adore "what's my name" however

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:39 (fourteen years ago)

i guess i did listen to the full rihanna album
but i don't even KNOW a lot of these bands! I'm drawing a blank on Gayngs, Third Eye Foundation, Sun Araw and Quadron
Suppose i really should get that sun city girls album, huh?

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:40 (fourteen years ago)

lol i voted for quadron bc i thought someone had reissued the basic channel thing and i was like eh i dont really care abt any of these albums this is good even if i dont know anything abt this partic reissue. so yes this album deserves less votes.

plax (ico), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:41 (fourteen years ago)

I do in general like the fruity sort of Baudelairian gothy-ness that Zola Jesus evokes - that whole pungent over-ripeness, like you can sense the spores of mould and mildew yet to bloom on the skin of the music. There's a few tracks on Stridulum II (Night, Sea Talk, I Can't Stand) where the songs feel epic enough to take that sort of treatment, but with a lot of the rest of it though, the material is just weak and the arrangements lifeless and dirgey, so it all ends up as this soupy splodge.

― seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, January 31, 2011 1:08 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is an interesting take on what works in ZJ's sound, though i like her/them a good deal more than you do. for me, a lot of the appeal is purely atmospheric, and that's where i think stridulum II occasionally falters. in the past, her recordings have placed equal emphasis on the danilova's voice and the ambient-industrial/minimal synth backing tracks. i like that approach. it allows the "soupy" aspect to become a positive quality, a point of focus when the songwriting isn't 100% there. also takes some of the emphasis off the "pungent over-ripeness" of the vocals, when you have to strain to hear them through the mix.

you mention the over-ripeness, but not the warmth it disguises. this is one of the things i like best about stridulum II relative to danilova's earlier work, how effectively it communicates a youthful earnestness regarding love and human relations through the skin of something that might seem coldly arch and stylized.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:48 (fourteen years ago)

xpost Quadron would have been my number 1 if I got my act together and voted. last.fm says it's my most played artist of 2010. "Unpatience" is divine.

danzig, Monday, 31 January 2011 21:51 (fourteen years ago)

this is one of the things i like best about stridulum II relative to danilova's earlier work, how effectively it communicates a youthful earnestness regarding love and human relations through the skin of something that might seem coldly arch and stylized.

You're right, that definitely comes through for me on 'I Can't Stand' (love the 'it's gonna be alright' mantra, which sounds like she's trying to convince herself as much as anyone else that it'll be okay).

seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 31 January 2011 22:14 (fourteen years ago)

i listened to that quadron album quite a bit and i'm a big fan of mr zone 6 - it's not his best mixtape but some great beats and some of gucci's best double-time flows ('dat's my life'). he also sounded more sober on this one which isn't necessarily a good thing but compared to recent developments...

god i don't know any of the rest of this stuff tho - mite check out enslaved

tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Monday, 31 January 2011 22:28 (fourteen years ago)

it's pretty nuts to me that even tho its basically agreed that 2010 was the year gucci fell off he still released two rock solid mixtapes - rap game is crazy yall

tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Monday, 31 January 2011 22:33 (fourteen years ago)

imagine if these indie bands had to work as hard as rappers to stay top of the pitchfork game

tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Monday, 31 January 2011 22:35 (fourteen years ago)

but i guess it's only talking so

tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Monday, 31 January 2011 22:36 (fourteen years ago)

if enslaved (the beacon) lj linked to upthread throws you off what w/ the initial aggro and seemingly singleminded chugga chugga it is def worth listening to the other side of them which is prob best repped by "Lightening"

its like what dream theater would sound like if they werent a bag of shit

here

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Monday, 31 January 2011 22:39 (fourteen years ago)

i thought she was from wisconsin?

My mistake, thought I read she was based in LA. Goddamn lies.

she started out in madison, got some hype and graduated college, then moved to l.a.

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 31 January 2011 22:40 (fourteen years ago)

aha thank you

sleeve, Monday, 31 January 2011 22:40 (fourteen years ago)

i'm listening to the warpaint album, it's alright but it's weird that the national album got all the "boring indie" zings when this album is on the list too

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 31 January 2011 22:43 (fourteen years ago)

My top two albums have already shown up, so I guess I've used up my allocation too. Now I can focus my energies on checking out the SCG album like everyone else.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:03 (fourteen years ago)

o what was yr #2? i am guessing yr #1 was also mine...

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:04 (fourteen years ago)

(The Knife, perchance? haha)

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:05 (fourteen years ago)

Probably because that National album is a billion times more boring than the Warpaint.

(xxpost)

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:05 (fourteen years ago)

eh ok. i don't know what else there is to say about the national album at this point but i think people are overstating how bad it is. i didn't vote for it, it's not as good as their last couple of albums, but it's not really substantially different in terms of sound or structure from their last couple of albums either. there's definitely something disappointing about it, but i can't really define what. but there are some good, well-written songs on it, some interesting sonic ideas, some energy.

the warpaint album is superficially nice but they don't really seem to have any songs? again, this is based on one listen, and they're obviously aiming for something different than the national, but my guess is that their album seems less boring because it's their first album, while the national's album is like their fifth or sixth

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:28 (fourteen years ago)

LJ: it was No Age

I "get" the hate for The National but I've never heard anything by them that bothered me all that much. But I would say the same about Coldplay and all the other bands they're usually compared to.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:29 (fourteen years ago)

i agree there's something essentially boring about the national as a band - they play straight-ahead grownup indie rock and they are called "the national," so yeah. but i'd rather listen to a boring band with good songs than a good-sounding band with boring songs.

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 31 January 2011 23:30 (fourteen years ago)

fwiw I listened to about half of High Violet and it was by no means horrible to listen to - had some nice touches

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:34 (fourteen years ago)

No Age album-cover is awesome, will give the songs inside a go

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:34 (fourteen years ago)

yeah the no age album is great. not sure if i voted for it but im glad it showed up.

excited to check out enslaved. im surprised thats the metal album so far that crossed over to this poll

gman59, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:37 (fourteen years ago)

Not having the songs is really Warpaint's problem - they have their moments (Undertow, Baby) but too many of them just sound aimless and waily.

Matt DC, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:38 (fourteen years ago)

yeah! also Giants is probably a good mediation between the short sharp burst of The Beacon and the longer ecstasy of Lightening

acoleuthic, Monday, 31 January 2011 23:38 (fourteen years ago)

"Giants" sounded like a beefed-up Alice in Chains until it got to the growly part. DO NOT WANT.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 00:01 (fourteen years ago)

Sorry I missed out on the fun - though I guess the albums countdown is less well suited to realtime listening laughs. None of my votes appeared today. I'm only going to comment on the albums I've heard (in part, at least). The only two albums I had heard before this week are Zola Jesus and Sun Araw.

76. QUADRON — Quadron (240 points, 12 votes) - the first time I heard this I thought it was pretty good but I've downgraded this opinion on each subsequent listen. The first two tracks - "Buster Keaton" and "Slippin" are all you really need. Someone wrote upthread that you couldn't tell they're Scandinavian if you didn't know; not sure whether that was tongue-in-cheek because I'd say the exact opposite. For those that are counting, this album has the lowest Enthusiasm score in the top 99.

74. ZOLA JESUS — Stridulum II (244 points, 10 votes) - I dig "Night" (and voted for it in the tracks poll), nothing here tops that imo.

73. THIRD EYE FOUNDATION — The Dark (246 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes) - Glad to see Matt Elliot is still around, I played You Guys Kill Me a lot when it came out. I can't say this sounds this different from what he was doing 10+ years ago. I do like it though! With Zola Jesus and The Knife as well, there sure is a lot of portentous electroGoth stylings in this run.

69. SUN ARAW — On Patrol (252 points, 8 votes) - I almost voted for this, so I'm glad to see it place. For fans of immersive squelchy dream vibez.

65. SUN CITY GIRLS — Funeral Mariachi (260 points, 9 votes, 2 first place votes) - hadn't listened to this before today...it's a lot more user-friendly than my previous experiences of SCG. I expect I'll buy this.

63. THE KNIFE — Tomorrow, In a Year (270 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote) First impressions are excellent, lots of interesting things going on. The mix of "high" and "low" elements has a nice early 80s downtown NYC vibe (in spirit and form if not in identical soundworlds). Hard to tell at this stage whether it's an album I'll come back to often.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 00:13 (fourteen years ago)

n/a super otm abt warpaint--thats a decent album but they really need to learn to write songs.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 00:26 (fourteen years ago)

I thought Undertow was super-cool, any other songs on the Warpaint album where they sound like grim'n'gritty Roches?

lol at the witch trials (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 00:33 (fourteen years ago)

^I think all of the songs kind of sound like that. the only one I don't like so much is "Majesty"

Dan S, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 00:41 (fourteen years ago)

63. THE KNIFE — Tomorrow, In a Year (270 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote) First impressions are excellent, lots of interesting things going on. The mix of "high" and "low" elements has a nice early 80s downtown NYC vibe (in spirit and form if not in identical soundworlds). Hard to tell at this stage whether it's an album I'll come back to often.

OTM about the early 80s NYC artmusic vibe. could easily hear this rubbing shoulders w laurie anderson circa united states.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 02:10 (fourteen years ago)

just listened to radio dept. album for the first time - seems like good stuff

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:38 (fourteen years ago)

the end of 'david' is pretty rapturous

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:46 (fourteen years ago)

start w/ "hearts on fire" & move fwd from there

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:53 (fourteen years ago)

sorry, "heaven's on fire"

wtf am i doing, isn't that a wolf parade song or something???

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:54 (fourteen years ago)

cut copy

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:55 (fourteen years ago)

wolf parade - "this heart's on fire"

last song on their fist album

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:58 (fourteen years ago)

first* album omg need fewer drinks to concentrate on typing

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:59 (fourteen years ago)

but but...drinks

bert, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 07:40 (fourteen years ago)

three of mine in so far--sun city girls, no age and rihanna. still big on the first two. really really like almost every song on the rihanna album but looking back i doubt it works super well as an album (but i've only listened to it once in order).

maybe i'm just gay (Tape Store), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 07:41 (fourteen years ago)

i'll drink to thatttttt xxpost

maybe i'm just gay (Tape Store), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 07:41 (fourteen years ago)

Oh shit didn't realize this started during transfer deadline night ;_;

http://www.gifanatics.com/files/Jackson_popcorn.gif

young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 10:02 (fourteen years ago)

Day 1

77. HARVEY MILK — A Small Turn of Human Kindness (240 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
76. QUADRON — Quadron (240 points, 12 votes)
75. RIHANNA — Loud (244 points, 9 votes)
74. ZOLA JESUS — Stridulum II (244 points, 10 votes)
73. THIRD EYE FOUNDATION — The Dark (246 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes)
(TIE) 71. THE TALLEST MAN ON EARTH — The Wild Hunt (250 points, 8 votes)
(TIE) 71. KYLIE MINOGUE — Aphrodite (250 points, 8 votes)
70. WARPAINT — The Fool (250 points, 9 votes)
69. SUN ARAW — On Patrol (252 points, 8 votes)
68. NO AGE — Everything in Between (256 points, 11 votes)
67. GAYNGS — Relayted (258 points, 10 votes)
66. GUCCI MANE — Mr. Zone 6 (260 points, 9 votes)
65. SUN CITY GIRLS — Funeral Mariachi (260 points, 9 votes, 2 first place votes)
64. THE RADIO DEPT. — Clinging to a Scheme (266 points, 11 votes)
63. THE KNIFE — Tomorrow, In a Year (270 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
62. THE NATIONAL — High Violet (270 points, 9 votes)
61. ENSLAVED — Axioma Ethica Odini (272 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:04 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv088cF04I/AAAAAAAAAVA/rpW8h7mFLfE/kelis.jpg

60. KELIS — Flesh Tone (272 points, 11 votes)
P&J: 139th
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:04 (fourteen years ago)

That album is enjoyable enough if a bit hacky but when you consider how awesome Kelis doing a house album SHOULD have been it just feels like a colossal wasted opportunity.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:06 (fourteen years ago)

My #2! <3

smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:07 (fourteen years ago)

yay another of my votes - "acapella" apart this is a great album, i love the thickness and richness of the sound, i love that kelis managed to take what's basically a very wearying pop trend and make something really creative out of it, i love the euphoria/revelation. it's her ray of light.

fav trax - "brave" (ignore the boring budget video), "4th of july (fireworks)"

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

greaaat album

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:09 (fourteen years ago)

all the non-guetta tracks on that blow

odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:10 (fourteen years ago)

(Michael Jackson should have eaten with his mouth closed, christ.)

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:10 (fourteen years ago)

all the non-kelis tracks on that blow

(whole thing's great)

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:11 (fourteen years ago)

the only track solely produced by guetta is "acapella" which UNCOINCIDENTALLY is the only one that actually blows

when i think of the success that usher, pitbull etc had with the hackiest, tackiest house sounds compared with the gigantic flop that was flesh tone, i get rather angry

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:11 (fourteen years ago)

Horrendous sleeve though..

Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:12 (fourteen years ago)

Acapella isn't really any better or worse than the rest of the album, none of it is that well-produced and it just doesn't seem to fit her vocals well. Shame because they're great songs.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:13 (fourteen years ago)

God, I've gotta stop getting mixed up between Ke$ha and Kelis. Whaddamistayka da mayka.

Only heard Ke$ha for the first time via the singles poll and it's the first thing I've heard in a while that has actively offended my ears.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:14 (fourteen years ago)

love what I've heard of Ray Of Light, if this compares I'll give it a try

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:14 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i don't really approve of any of the artwork from this campaign :/

correction: it's kelis's ray of light, but shorn of all pomposity (i <3 RoL but it was def the start of madonna's listen-children attitude)

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:14 (fourteen years ago)

I also love what I've heard of pomposity ;)

Sample track, anyone?

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:15 (fourteen years ago)

Are they going for Julianne Moore's look in the Lebowski flashback sequence mixed with a bad SF front cover? It illustrates the music (which is good, mostly!) very well I guess..

Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:15 (fourteen years ago)

xp I can't remember the name, but I was really into the one that started as this anthemic midtempo ballad, and then transformed into deadpan electroclash.

Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:16 (fourteen years ago)

I really like that sleeve :S

Even though <3 Kelis, I've never had any inclination to listen to this. Respect Rev's taste though so spotify here i come.

if there is a King Kenny, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:16 (fourteen years ago)

Acapella isn't really any better or worse than the rest of the album, none of it is that well-produced and it just doesn't seem to fit her vocals well. Shame because they're great songs.

i honestly don't know what you're hearing here - the beats are mostly thick and bassy, her voice is thick and deep, she sounds like she's ad libbing to the arrangements rather than fitting house beats around her own songs...it blends perfectly imo. even "acapella" is only a remix away from being ok, it's just too staccato and not generous/welcoming enough.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:17 (fourteen years ago)

No Acapella rules - listen for yourself LJ!

Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:17 (fourteen years ago)

I have avoided her stuff on the assumption that none of it is better than "Milkshake". probably stupid but what can you do.

skip, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:18 (fourteen years ago)

I was quite disparaging about Acapella in the trax poll. Believe it caused me to bust out 'dream house' tho so it's ok

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:19 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTvzFowXzgI/AAAAAAAAATc/YiU-G-VcSj8/currensy.jpg

59. CURREN$Y — Pilot Talk II (272 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)
P&J: 160th
Pitchfork: DNP

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:19 (fourteen years ago)

awesomeeee

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

also: i approached this project with SO MUCH SCEPTICISM - i was like oh god kelis can be a bit of a try-hard, i hate the urban/house fusion trend, look at the gross artwork, how can this be good? and yet it just sweeps you up with sheer FEELING. so many hands-in-the-air chants here - "I WAS SUPER TOUGH BUT NOW I'M SUPER STRONG", "NOTHING! I'LL EVER SAY OR DO! WILL BE AS GOOD! AS LOVING YOU!" etc

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

lex so so otm ^^

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

Sample track, anyone?

linked two upthread

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:22 (fourteen years ago)

xp Yeah, and I've lamented Janelle winning the the plaudits this year as the 'progressive' RnB one, when Kelis bests her in every attribute. (Although there is barely anything RnB about Flesh Tone; the point is about their roots as artists/singers.)

Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:23 (fourteen years ago)

Curren$y is like, back2tha90s style hiphop, right? (only heard a little bit whilst VERY drunk last summer)

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:24 (fourteen years ago)

i listened to both curren$y albums once and i'm not sure i get it :/ nice enough i guess but kind of...one-paced and sleepy?

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:25 (fourteen years ago)

only heard pilot 1 - anything as good as king kong and audio dope on it?

if there is a King Kenny, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:26 (fourteen years ago)

False dichotomy! Both those albums are great. xxp

smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:26 (fourteen years ago)

KELIS - listened to lex's recommendations: "brave" & "4th of july", "acapella" too. "brave" seems more likely to work as dance music than it does as pop, and there's something a little desperate about the lyrical affirmations, but i love "4th of july"! totally get the "euphoria/revelation" vibe there. not sure how i feel about "acapella". so deliberately diaphanous that it maybe undercuts its hooks? love the "safety dance" percussion synth (lol).

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:28 (fourteen years ago)

Another of my votes!

Currensy - Michael Knight

WE IN THE YARD, TELL YOUR DOGS THEY SHOULD BEWARE OF US

smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:29 (fourteen years ago)

"flight briefing" is the jam on pilottalk 2

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:30 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv0X_AychI/AAAAAAAAAUk/ZaQDlLeIELg/ikonika.jpg

58. IKONIKA — Contact, Love, Want, Have (276 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote)
P&J: 1,504th
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

flight briefing

i hope that works i'm at work w/ no sound

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

read that as "Contact Love-Hewitt"

some dude, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

My first vote to place!

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

something a little desperate about the lyrical affirmations

I get this as well, at least when you can actually hear the lyrics through the vocal effects. The Vitalic by way of Black Eyed Peas backing track is kind of interesting but where's the hook? There's probably one in there but all I hear is a miasma of electronics and buzzing.

skip, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:33 (fourteen years ago)

That's my first vote to place as well. Played that Ikonika album to death in spring, then got a bit bored of it and the whole sound it was going for, then listened to it again in December and loved it again. I hope she moves away from chiptune noises though.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:33 (fourteen years ago)

kelis' stuff is better on second listen, now I'm treating it for what it is

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:33 (fourteen years ago)

...ie an unobjectionably good dance-pop album. ;)

Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:34 (fourteen years ago)

yes

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:34 (fourteen years ago)

Helps that the sound on the Ikonika album is huge, on headphones its one of the few videogame inspired records that actually makes you feel like you're inside a videogame.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:34 (fourteen years ago)

oh shit yes! i didn't expect ikonika to place, soooo happy it did

they are all losing the war <= BANGER, like being trapped in an actual computer game
fish
psoriasis

and a single she released after the album that's not on it, but signals a much housier direction for her

aqueous cream

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:34 (fourteen years ago)

DREAM POP?

if there is a King Kenny, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:34 (fourteen years ago)

lex have you ever been trapped in a game?

if there is a King Kenny, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

also: listening to the ikonika album in HQ is u&k due to the INCREASED BASS you get

xps i have never so much as played a computer game, this is what i imagine it'd be like if they were any goood

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

His cameo in the Tron sequel was edited out sadly.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

My faves from the Kelis album are "4th of July", "Scream", and "Song for the Baby".

smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

Couldn't get into the Ikonika at all. Did any of you lot vote for/enjoy Lone's Emerald Fantasy Tracks? It's in the post-dubstep orbit somehow, yet this newer stuff crosses over more with Boards of Canada, and lush old-school rave/breakbeat like House Crew's Euphoria..

Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, Kelis album is good. 'Scream' is fab. Gonna listen to a bit of Ikonika now

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:37 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not sure about her evident fixation with nasty skin complaints though.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:37 (fourteen years ago)

Scream is the electroclashy one I mentioned upthread! Go you..

Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:38 (fourteen years ago)

"they are all losing the war" is exhibit a against deej's assertion that you can't dance to uk bass. the DRUMS! you can tell she used to be a hardcore drummer.

also, that'll be one of the best album covers of the countdown i think.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:38 (fourteen years ago)

love the tacks i've heard from that ikonika album

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:38 (fourteen years ago)

Did any of you lot vote for/enjoy Lone's Emerald Fantasy Tracks?

couldn't get into lone at all, personally

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:38 (fourteen years ago)

Lots of good tracks on that Ikonika, but it was all a bit too much for me as an album. Happy to see it though, 'Psoriasis' is great!

seminal fuiud (NickB), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

so Flight Briefing is awesome...going to need to get this album. I feel like Star Fox.

skip, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

2010 cover connection:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51obIYzO1-L._SL500_AA300_.jpg http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41N48W0kCtL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

Did any of you lot vote for/enjoy Lone's Emerald Fantasy Tracks?

Yeah I voted for that. Kind of like BOC meets Zomby right?

seminal fuiud (NickB), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

^^^^WAS LITERALLY THINKING THIS NOW xp

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

I should listen to the Ikonika again. It didn't make any impression on me the one time I did.

smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

Finally something I voted for! Kelis, that is.

Happy about Ikonika placing too. Though more happy for Lex than anything.

Jeff W, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

obviously anyone can make video game music but this lets your imagination run rather than pigeonholing you into one particular experience or one remembered sound - and love the Kraftwerk percussion.

skip, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

xp Matt DC would probably be into it. Dunno if he's heard it or not..

Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

'They Are All Losing The War' is kind of atypical though, it's much more straigtforward rhythmically than something like 'Millie', which fudges about with the groove all over the place before settling into a house kick. I prefer the former approach I think.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

ikonika did many great remixes last year too - check her takes on jahcoozi's "read the books", cubic zirconia's "hoes come out at night", brenmar's "you make me say", the brown acid's "bastard kids" and egyptrixx's "the only way up" especially...

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

CURREN$Y - good record, but i heard it late and was still digesting it during voting. probably wouldn't have made my ballot anyway. like the throwback vibe and dude's stoner style, but it gets a bit wallpapery here and there. i particularly like "famous", "flight briefing" and "highed up". excellent mood music in general.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

Davek - only heard Pineapple Crush, which I liked but not enough to explore further. Will do so though.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv2zvVDsUI/AAAAAAAAAWM/3AY0mJmx_OI/rkelly.jpg

57. R. KELLY — Love Letter (284 points, 12 votes)
P&J: 131st
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

lol @ that album cover

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:45 (fourteen years ago)

kelly released an album? with an AWESOME cover? damn you humbert humbert

if there is a King Kenny, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:46 (fourteen years ago)

my votes are coming thick & fast, haw.

very impressive placing from r. kelly considering it's only been out a few WEEKS. i love how it's like, idk, a return to what his gifts ARE at root - classicist songwriting and arrangements, incredible vocal performances, none of the point-and-stare circus that's surrounded kellz for so much of the past decade.

taxi cab
love is

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:48 (fourteen years ago)

So glad it's available in stereo.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:49 (fourteen years ago)

Is that one his Sam Cooke homage or am I thinking of something else?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

*crickets*

skip, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

ikona makes no impression on me. wouldn't say it's bad, just that it's not really aimed at my sweet spots.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

Had heard a few tracks from this, but just listened to "Taxi Cab" for the first time and WOAH

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

* waiting for something I actually voted for / heard properly to place *

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTvy6fhlYSI/AAAAAAAAATQ/METgdiQvB60/chemicalbrothers.jpg

56. THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS — Further (286 points, 10 votes)
P&J: 153rd
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:55 (fourteen years ago)

That R. Kelly record is pretty awesome.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

gonna guess dog latin voted for that ;)

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

Is Further anything like Dig Your Own Hole?

Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

Anyway, their second-best album behind Surrender, probably. Oooooh yeah.

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

xpost nope!

odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

(Didn't vote for it but wasn't far off doing so)

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

Wasn't really feeling that Ikonika album when it came out, but I think Lex was waxing lyrical about it on the trax countdown thread so gave it another go at the weekend. Well I was clearly wrong. Should have been on my albums list, don't know why I wasn't feeling it back then. Scratches head.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:01 (fourteen years ago)

missed that Chemical Brothers album completely until 2 weeks ago when I realized that a song that was turning up on a lot of mixes over the year was the Lindstrøm and Prins Thomas remix of "Swoon".

Gukbe, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:02 (fourteen years ago)

Haha, Louis, no I didn't vote for it. Never a massive Chems fan, but I did really like Swoon.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:02 (fourteen years ago)

I should have voted that R. Kelly higher than I did. I would put it in my top ten now.

smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:03 (fourteen years ago)

Chem Bros album is pretty good, too, even if I didn't vote for it.

smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:03 (fourteen years ago)

Catching up, just heard 4th of July - Kelis and it is indeed awesome.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

all the non-guetta tracks on that blow

― odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, February 1, 2011 11:10 AM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark

the fuck is wrong with you

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

"brave" off the kelis is such a fucking jam

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah I really like that Chemical Brothers album, first one I've wanted to listen to back-to-front since the 90s. Dropping all the guest vocalists was an excellent move.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:06 (fourteen years ago)

I found the Ikonika album thin and exasperating, also read somewhere that she doesn't play any instruments and just bangs on the keyboard until something clicks in her head. That's exactly how it sounded to me!

Umm, I think that's my glass. (laser precise purpose maker era), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:06 (fourteen years ago)

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor and deej. Not sure whether it's good or bad I guess.

Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:06 (fourteen years ago)

ilxor has been back in. Haven't seen deej, tho.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:07 (fourteen years ago)

also read somewhere that she doesn't play any instruments and just bangs on the keyboard until something clicks in her head. That's exactly how it sounded to me!

she's played the drums since she was 11, lol, so that's false

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:07 (fourteen years ago)

Tried to get into that Chemical Brothers record, but they always kind of sound to me like dance remixes of some nameless Scandinavian rock band.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:07 (fourteen years ago)

awesome run of records since kelis-- definitely voted for both r. kelly (FUCKING INCREDIBLE RECORD MY GOD) and think i tossed chem bros. on my ballot too

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:08 (fourteen years ago)

I will need to check it. Matt DC, I kind of gave up on the Chems after Dig Your Own Hole, and it was mostly to do with all the guest vocalists.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:08 (fourteen years ago)

this kelly interview from 'interview' is good -- done by will oldham

http://www.interviewmagazine.com/music/r-kelly

talks a lot about the thought process/recording of 'love letter'

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:09 (fourteen years ago)

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor and deej. Not sure whether it's good or bad I guess.

― Davek (davek_00), Tuesday, February 1, 2011 11:06 AM (1 minute ago)

ilxor has been back in. Haven't seen deej, tho.

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, February 1, 2011 11:07 AM (49 seconds ago)

lol @ me being considered "absent" if i'm not beefing. i've been posting today! in this thread! just doing, you know, regular posting like i was doing yesterday. about all the albums.

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:09 (fourteen years ago)

FUCK YES! Chemical Bros was my #2. I'd completely written them of years ago and this album totally blew me away. Fuckin "Loveless" type shit IMO

vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:09 (fourteen years ago)

that's a teensy bit hyperbolic stevie d

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (666 of them)

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv2BMSPXDI/AAAAAAAAAVo/dq-Bi0vua-A/neilyoung.jpg

(TIE) 54. NEIL YOUNG — Le Noise (290 points, 11 votes)
P&J: 38th
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

I am still p stunned "Escape Velocity" didn't place in the Tracks poll

vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

also read somewhere that she doesn't play any instruments and just bangs on the keyboard until something clicks in her head. That's exactly how it sounded to me!

Think you might find this is how 70% of electronic music is made tbh. Although I get your point. This is the same reason I never could appreciate LFO's music - just sounded random in an unrefined way.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

YES I VOTED FOR THIS NEIL ALBUM

soooo good

guitar tone is just A+++ bloodcurdling heavenly fuzzy distortion

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

I honestly never thought I'd give a shit about a new Neil Young album ever again but that one is fantastic, the sound of the guitars is just so rich and endlessly rewarding.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:12 (fourteen years ago)

that's a teensy bit hyperbolic stevie d

I meant "sounds a lot like", not "is as monumental as"

That being said it's no question it's the best thing theyve ever done IMO

vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:12 (fourteen years ago)

i had no idea neil young was still putting out new music let alone good music

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:12 (fourteen years ago)

it's a nice dance-rock album, it isn't a transcendent feedback-layered dreamblast brain-shatterer from the planet Sonicon

escape velocity is real neat, am listening to it now. first two tracks stand out imo.

le noise is good but again the opening track is a cut above the rest, lovely sounds all the way thru tho

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:12 (fourteen years ago)

that said, 'le noise' is as close to Loveless as this list will get ;)

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:13 (fourteen years ago)

"Escape Velocity" is amazing.

smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:13 (fourteen years ago)

I am still p stunned "Escape Velocity" didn't place in the Tracks poll

havent checked results in detail, but i'd assume votes were split btwn "escape velocity" and "swoon" (i voted the latter)

lj, PLEASE listen to "swoon" NOW

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:13 (fourteen years ago)

Horse Power is the real banger on the Chems album.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:13 (fourteen years ago)

I really like the last two tracks, actually! They always get forgotten.

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

also read somewhere that she doesn't play any instruments and just bangs on the keyboard until something clicks in her head. That's exactly how it sounded to me!

just fyi "banging on the [keyboard/guitar/drums/etc] until something clicks in one's head" is basically what playing an instrument/writing a song is

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

I wanted to like Neil's record, but found it one of the hardest slogs of the year.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

neil wrong

nathey, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

Love (and voted for) Further - their best since Surrender, with Swoon, Escape Velocity and Horse Power the real keepers. And Le Noise is Young's best since the mid 90s. Ikonika bores me apart from the atypical They Are Losing the War.

I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:17 (fourteen years ago)

This is totally the hardy perennials section of the list. Underworld up next?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:17 (fourteen years ago)

This is totally the hardy perennials section of the list.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TUe6FTmsnhI/AAAAAAAAAbA/XsK9V-mGujY/thefall.jpg

(TIE) 54. THE FALL — Our Future Your Clutter (290 points, 11 votes)
P&J: 184th
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:19 (fourteen years ago)

Lol.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:19 (fourteen years ago)

(oops, I got the title backwards)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:19 (fourteen years ago)

weeeeey

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:19 (fourteen years ago)

i hadn't heard the R. Kelly when i voted but i definitely would've put it on my ballot if i had

some dude, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:20 (fourteen years ago)

a solid indie rock pick there xp

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:20 (fourteen years ago)

Best song on the Fall album, features loads of cool electronica and a lovely tune!

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:21 (fourteen years ago)

a solid indie rock pick there xp

grrrrrrr ^______________________^

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:22 (fourteen years ago)

And a kickass FX-laden rocker from them Fall boys (and girl)

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:22 (fourteen years ago)

also read somewhere that she doesn't play any instruments and just bangs on the keyboard until something clicks in her head. That's exactly how it sounded to me!

Think you might find this is how 70% of electronic music is made tbh. Although I get your point. This is the same reason I never could appreciate LFO's music - just sounded random in an unrefined way.

-

Exactly and I knew I was gonna get trouble for saying that. Autechre makes a complex and interesting world out of this technique. Monolake a deep and pleasing one. There is something about her melodies that I find annoying and cheap. This is the quote I was thinking of:

B: One musical theme that’s run through your productions for quite some time is the use of dissonance, offkey or sour melodies. How do you go about writing these kinds of melodies and what draws you to them?

I: I don’t really know how to play keys so I just smack them until something nice comes out. But I want my melodies to speak. They’re simple, polite and to the point…I guess they're from my attraction to Pop and R&B hooks. I love things that are catchy and memorable, they do turn out a little sour and deranged but that’s what I love about messing around with synths…To me, that’s the whole point, making these machines express their emotions, just like WALL-E.

http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2010/03/pitchfork-march-ikonika.html

Umm, I think that's my glass. (laser precise purpose maker era), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:23 (fourteen years ago)

wish i voted now, r kelly would have been higher. really fantastic return to form after the kinda disappointing untitled best songs from that are number one hit, "radio message" when a woman loves and "love letter"

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:26 (fourteen years ago)

seriosuly what is this sped-up bullshit with youtube now - didn't even bother linking unofficial rips cuz they sound like ass

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:26 (fourteen years ago)

somehow i never got around to the r. kelly. need to make this a priority.

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

I: I don’t really know how to play keys so I just smack them until something nice comes out.

i guess it's interesting to hear how this interacts with her drum proficiency...

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

it's sped up so that major label bots won't find and take down the videos, but imo it defeats the purpose of even putting up the song if it's all annoyingly sped up. i bitched about it on twitter once and noz defended it as being no different than tempo changes on blend mixtapes, which is total bullshit. (xpost)

some dude, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

rolling enlightening music discussion thread

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

as someone who plays drums well and is a total caveman at playing keyboards i can assure you there is relatively little connection between those two skill sets aside from being able to play on beat

some dude, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:30 (fourteen years ago)

Here's the last one for a little bit. I gotta go pick up lunch.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv2coyrAgI/AAAAAAAAAWA/8ayYfTtmnmQ/rangda.jpg

53. RANGDA — False Flag (306 points, 9 votes)
P&J: 153rd
Pitchfork: DNP

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

as someone who plays drumskeyboards well and is a total caveman at playing keyboardsdrums i can assure you there is relatively little connection between those two skill sets aside from being able to play on beat

Tyler/Perry's "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:33 (fourteen years ago)

"Radio Message" is totally corny in the best way possible.

smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:33 (fourteen years ago)

metal?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:33 (fourteen years ago)

i would guess punk/hardcore based on name/cover art

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:33 (fourteen years ago)

RANGDA

YES!

Crackle Box, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:35 (fourteen years ago)

"Radio Message" is totally corny in the best way possible.

― smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Tuesday, February 1, 2011 12:33 PM (1 minute ago)

AND IM BEGGIN HER

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:35 (fourteen years ago)

COME BACK

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:35 (fourteen years ago)

Remember those Sun City Girls upthread? This is related. And Awesome.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:36 (fourteen years ago)

great album

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:36 (fourteen years ago)

This albums list is real voyage of discovery stuff for me. At least 80% of the albums so far I haven't heard and about 20% I haven't even heard of. With the tracks run down there wasn't anything I hadn't at least heard of before. I'm quite excited!

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:37 (fourteen years ago)

KELLY - haven't heard it, refrain from comment
CHEMS - good record, probably my favorite since dig your own hole, but nothing i'm terribly enthusiastic about
NEIL - amazing tone and production, but the songwriting only occasionally grabs me. prob should have voted for "hitchhiker" in trax
FALL - as good as 00s fall records get, and i'm a fan, so FUCK YES
RANGDA - excellent album. didn't vote for it cuz my avant-indie picks went elsewhere, but cut it late. all interested parties should check out PLAIN OF JARS

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:38 (fourteen years ago)

rangda is richard bishop from sun city girls, chris corsano who is proper good at drums and ben chasny from comets on fire.

i'd put good money on lex not liking this.

Crackle Box, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:38 (fourteen years ago)

CHEMS - good record, probably my favorite since dig your own hole, but nothing i'm terribly enthusiastic about

co-signed. Loved the remix of "Swoon" when it was included in mixes but not as a standalone track.

skip, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:39 (fourteen years ago)

been a good last 3 for boys and guitars amirite

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:40 (fourteen years ago)

xp

Can't believe I haven't heard the Rangda yet (availability on Spotify determines whether I hear a lot of stuff)...it's noise/improv dudes making a relatively straightahead rock album afaik.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:40 (fourteen years ago)

'senior' boys, that is

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:40 (fourteen years ago)

been a good last 3 for boys and guitars amirite

it's not been a good list so far for girls at all - only 8/25 involve women at all by my count

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:41 (fourteen years ago)

Rangda is awesome, got my vote

it's not metal, or punk/hardcore -- more like psych/improv/free rock/noise that is absolutely mindblowing

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:42 (fourteen years ago)

I bought Le Noise between Xmas and New Year cos it was cheap. Only played it once so far. I like the musical aesthetic a lot but the lyrics are just soooo darn terrible - and for once it's hard for me to get past that. Talk about conflicted; left it off my ballot as a result.

Jeff W, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:43 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, instrumental free rock with great guitar playing

Dan S, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:43 (fourteen years ago)

thought my #1 Ikonika would be a bit higher

idgi fridays (blueski), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, instrumental free rock with great guitar playing

great great GREAT drumming too!!

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:46 (fourteen years ago)

only 8/25 involve women at all by my count

― lextasy refix (lex pretend)

I predict a much higher ratio in the top 50

Rangda sounding way cool

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:48 (fourteen years ago)

rangda should be right up yr alley lj

p much anything w/ corsano on drums is worth hearing imo

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:49 (fourteen years ago)

Rangda were incredible live. I didn't really listen to the actual album that much though.

peter in montreal, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:52 (fourteen years ago)

My spotify has been playing up the last couple of days, much impeding my listening. Not finding this section that inspiring, but I do need to listen to the Fall and Rangda albums soon.

emil.y, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:53 (fourteen years ago)

ilxor have you heard the Jailbreak disc from last year? I'm curious about it, haven't heard it

Dan S, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:53 (fourteen years ago)

nope haven't yet :(

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

Rangda is pretty cool...some of it's pretty grumbly, but First Family is long peals of droning feedback & Plain of Jars is awesome avant-Grateful Dead...

lol at the witch trials (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:58 (fourteen years ago)

Not finding this section that inspiring, but I do need to listen to the Fall and Rangda albums soon.

― emil.y, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 17:53 (7 minutes ago)

"Not finding this section that inspiring, but I do need to listen to the albums I'll blatantly really like from it"

:P

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:01 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv0um9A_xI/AAAAAAAAAUw/xfnbQVQuPk8/javieramena.jpg

52. JAVIERA MENA - Mena (310 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes)
P&J: 63rd
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:01 (fourteen years ago)

trippy album art

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:01 (fourteen years ago)

I checked this out after Hasta La Verdad hit the tracks countdown...can't say I found any of the other songs to be as appealing though.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:03 (fourteen years ago)

Artwork is deceptively chillwavey.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:03 (fourteen years ago)

Aw, really? I liked that track, was hoping the rest of the record would be good too.

Also, LJ, no guarantee I'll like the Rangda, I do find some of the associated stuff a bit too ROCK GUITAR for my tastes.

emil.y, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:05 (fourteen years ago)

xp chillwave is one of the best things to ever happen to album art imhumbleo

sad to hear lex call this section girl-unfriendly--for the most part I've been very happy about 77-51 and am sad to imagine alternate worlds where this poll starts at 50...

lol at the witch trials (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:06 (fourteen years ago)

xp emil.y - Obv at least two other ilxors strongly disagree with me though!

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:07 (fourteen years ago)

Rangda is pretty cool...some of it's pretty grumbly

this is why i cut it, tbh. love the more lyrical stuff, and love the whole approach live, but the freakier & scratchier stuff doesn't always suit my peasant ear.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:07 (fourteen years ago)

I checked this out after Hasta La Verdad hit the tracks countdown...can't say I found any of the other songs to be as appealing though.

― Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai)

Yeah I did the same thing, I was blown away by Hasta but nothing else grabbed me like that. It's a nice enough album though might have scraped into my list but I was hoping it was going to be amazing.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:08 (fourteen years ago)

Woo! Snow day, which means I get to stay home and watch the album poll results (and be disappointed and alienated, but still entertained).

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:08 (fourteen years ago)

sad to hear lex call this section girl-unfriendly--for the most part I've been very happy about 77-51 and am sad to imagine alternate worlds where this poll starts at 50...

oh it wasn't a complaint as such, i was just kinda surprised. think the 51-77 section has been pretty valuable too.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:08 (fourteen years ago)

am sad to imagine alternate worlds where this poll starts at 50...

yar I only have one more album making it, barring miracles ;_; but am sure the top 50 will have good stuff in it too!

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:09 (fourteen years ago)

I'm still waiting for my first vote to place.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:10 (fourteen years ago)

i think i voted for the curren$y but i forget

will almost certainly have a few more place though, hivemind that i am

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:11 (fourteen years ago)

The next one marks the end of the bonus portion of the countdown. After it, we enter the Top 50! Hooray!

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:12 (fourteen years ago)

Am now half way through the R Kelly album, and ...just..wow! I'm really not at all well versed in r n b so I'd very very tentatively suggest some of it reminds me of Stevie Wonder. Anyway a nice discovery for me. Good work ILX.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:12 (fourteen years ago)

What songs of Javiera Mena to check out?

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:13 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTvy65YjhlI/AAAAAAAAATY/4B-B6VGjPzw/crystalcastles.jpg

51. CRYSTAL CASTLES — Crystal Castles (312 points, 13 votes)
P&J: 77th
Pitchfork: 34th
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:13 (fourteen years ago)

like what i've heard of the javier mena album. was indifferent to "hasta la verdad" when i first heard it, but it's grown on me. i "even" like (love) the jens leckman collaboration, but i never hated the dude in the first place. GF's a fan, so i've made my accomodations.

"luz de piedra de luna" is gorgeous <3

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:15 (fourteen years ago)

.

*kl0p* (deej), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:16 (fourteen years ago)

What songs of Javiera Mena to check out?

Hasta La Verdad, Luz de Piedra de Luna and No te Cuesta Nada, imo

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:17 (fourteen years ago)

Thanks Johnny, contenderizer too...

I like Crystal Castles but more as a singles band. Found their album too long, every time.

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:18 (fourteen years ago)

no use for crystal castles in general but could live for days on that robert smith collab #blushofshame

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:18 (fourteen years ago)

digging Rangda a lot, though Moon Duo will probably remain my go-to psych freakout for 2010.

skip, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:21 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTvz1cjPjPI/AAAAAAAAAUQ/0NcX-my64T4/gorillaz.jpg

50. GORILLAZ — Plastic Beach (316 points, 12 votes)
P&J: 30th
Pitchfork: 35th
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:23 (fourteen years ago)

lol

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:25 (fourteen years ago)

cue annoyed rmde lex post

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:25 (fourteen years ago)

You lol easier than 50 Cent on Twitter, ilxor. You need an abbreviation for mild amusement.

I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:26 (fourteen years ago)

I liked "Stylo," but I didn't even get around to listening to this album until sometime in December. It's better than I expected, but it just...I dunno. Not great by any means.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:26 (fourteen years ago)

wasn't feeling plastic beach at all, songs seemed floaty & tuneless without good beats. will try again someday

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:27 (fourteen years ago)

woah, had no idea gorillaz would place in an ilx poll

markers, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:27 (fourteen years ago)

I don't think I've heard anything off this, bar an annoying Spotify ad.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:27 (fourteen years ago)

ciderpress otm, thankful it's so low, but feel bad PB made top 50 & not O.F.Y.C.

lol at the witch trials (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:28 (fourteen years ago)

IMO this album was a giant mess...lots of interesting stuff going on but they needed an editor or two.

skip, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:28 (fourteen years ago)

lolrillaz

odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:28 (fourteen years ago)

glenn can you do a metric where these 12 votes aren't talleyed thx

odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:28 (fourteen years ago)

^zing!

love Mena & Crystal Castles for the chillwave album covers. Another one I like:

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h279/juicyfrt/Everythings-Berri-ag-album.jpg

lol at the witch trials (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:29 (fourteen years ago)

xp kanye crashes from #2 to...#3

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:29 (fourteen years ago)

^NOT #49 ON THE LIST BTW!!!!!

lol at the witch trials (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:30 (fourteen years ago)

haaaa

PB had its moments but it really didn't hang together for me. Altho props for sounding just like its title.

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:30 (fourteen years ago)

whoa AG at #49, fantastic

omar little, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:31 (fourteen years ago)

kanye will be #1 guys sorry to break it to you all

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:31 (fourteen years ago)

Ah, but if you exclude all Kanye voters...

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:32 (fourteen years ago)

Have rarely agreed with a #1 although Mulholland Dr in the 00s film poll was nigh-on indisputable tbh

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:32 (fourteen years ago)

I voted for Gorillaz, it good do with losing a few tracks but it had plenty of great moments. I would recommend searching out the track Empire Ants.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

i dunno i can think of a couple records that could beat kanye here including my #1

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv2AxbcWDI/AAAAAAAAAVg/QnB5EArz2Jw/marinadiamonds.jpg

49. MARINA & THE DIAMONDS — The Family Jewels (320 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)
P&J: 274th
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:35 (fourteen years ago)

YAY!

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:35 (fourteen years ago)

i mean, our tracks poll #1 was 'wut' fcol

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:36 (fourteen years ago)

omggg!

only voted for 'shampain' but the album is cool as well

hooray for english music

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:37 (fourteen years ago)

i like 'i am not a robot' dunno about the rest

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:39 (fourteen years ago)

Same here. Very aggravating vocals.

I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:39 (fourteen years ago)

I think this album is solid as fuck (barring "Hollywood"). Vocals are probably an acquired taste, tho, yeah.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

dunno why i never picked up the gorillaz album. dug "stylo" and several other tracks when a friend played it for me last summer. then again, i find the captain cruch kookiness a bit grating (mars both "some kind of nature" and "superfast jellyfish"). i get that it's thematic, but still...

"on melancholy hill" is damn hard to deny, so beautiful

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:43 (fourteen years ago)

I f/w "I am not a Robot" and "Obsessions", don't really care about the rest.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:44 (fourteen years ago)

I am happily surprised The Family Jewels placed (and in the top 50 even). I was starting to think maybe it was possible, though, based on the number of votes some of the recent albums had received. (After all, "Shampain" got ten votes in the singles poll.)

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:44 (fourteen years ago)

So four albums I voted four will place by the end of the poll, possibly a record for me, I don't know.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:45 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTvzF1u7ZPI/AAAAAAAAATg/sVRVyoxv_QI/deerhunter.jpg

48. DEERHUNTER — Halcyon Digest (320 points, 13 votes)
P&J: 11th
Pitchfork: 3rd
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:45 (fourteen years ago)

xp

yeah, "On Melancholy Hill" is lovely. The PB tracks without the Special Guests are the keepers, basically.

Another one I own but didn't vote for.

Jeff W, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:46 (fourteen years ago)

I have listened to this but I can't remember anything about it.

Hmm...that's not a very constructive comment. I have to leave now but the next album is brilliant!

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

Pitchfork: 3rd

¯\(°_o)/¯

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

I like the song with the awesome saxophone and the very last song that's a tribute to Jay Reatard, but the rest of the Deerhunter album is kinda meh.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

i liked cryptograms and the EP after that w/ the orange-y cover,. microcastle was kinda snoozy, same w/ this new one.

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:49 (fourteen years ago)

xpost to contenderizer. Yes, I know a Gorillaz album wouldn't even exist without all the conceptual gubbins but I could do without it, especially stuff like the Snoop Dogg intro. But I think the Bobby Womack and Little Dragon tracks plus On Melancholy Hill are gorgeous - I think they'd have a better reception from people round here if they didn't come with so much annoying baggage.

I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:49 (fourteen years ago)

the very last song that's a tribute to Jay Reatard

"He Would Have Laughed" is a tribute to Jay Reatard?

markers, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:50 (fourteen years ago)

Listening to 'Hermit The Frog' on The Family Jewels, as a random track, I'm struck that Marina is a lot more ingenious a songwriter than she might at first appear. Has a good grasp of theatre, and imposes subtle emotional increments onto her narratives which quite blindside me

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:50 (fourteen years ago)

love love love the marina album. easily my highlight of 2010.

that's the third of my votes to place (after harvey milk and sun city girls), and probably the last.

m the g, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

way too low - a true album's worth of songs in different styles and tempos with a ton of different sounds and great slow and fast hooks. Has the vaunted "use of space" that electroheads rave about and tasteful use of non-guitar elements. The Memory Boy > Desire Lines combination is the best one-two punch of the year. just an all around solid CD.

skip, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

"He Would Have Laughed" is a tribute to Jay Reatard?

― markers, Tuesday, February 1, 2011 1:50 PM (57 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yup. fantastic album.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

free stream here http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2010/sep/22/deerhunter-halcyon-digest

skip, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

'desire lines' on the deerhunter is pretty great I think but the album as a whole didn't blow me away.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

"the memory boy" was my fav track from the deerhunter

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

bradford cox is so awesome and once answered a wilco-related question i asked him on the deerhunter blog back in 2007 when he had comments enabled <3

markers, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:54 (fourteen years ago)

i like the deerhunter record. didn't quite make my ballot though since i was late on getting into it. love 'earthquake' and 'helicopter', and 'sailing' is kinda wonderful

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:54 (fourteen years ago)

re: Plastic Beach--I'm pretty meh on Melancholy Hill; loved Stylo when it first came out, also love Empire Ants, Sweepstakes, and Glitter Freeze, but hearing Stylo for the first time on the way over to my stepfather's visitation, and it just blew my mind (I had just returned to ILM after a long time & was heavily into GAPDY/MGMT) & made that night bearable, so to find that PB was a meandering mess of bullshit kind of felt like a betrayal...

listening to Empire Ants again though, and it's legitimately great along with Stylo (Bobby Womack!)

lol at the witch trials (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:54 (fourteen years ago)

didn't vote for it but I think the deerhunter album is actually really good, their best imo, with well-written songs and nice production

Dan S, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:55 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah in previous times I've listened to Marina I haven't given enough effort to the whole album. so in listening to the last few songs I'm focusing on some songs I'd given short shrift previously. And hey guess what, they're freaking ACE. m the g has always been a kinda 'I'll vote what he's voting' dude for me, feeling a bit bad I didn't follow suit again this time

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:56 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTvzo-ejBvI/AAAAAAAAATw/BexiSyDUPD8/electricwizard.jpg

47. ELECTRIC WIZARD — Black Masses (334 points, 10 votes)
P&J: 334th
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:56 (fourteen years ago)

so fucking glad i was on the phone interviewing waka flocka flame for the past 3 albums smh smh

gorillaz, i can't believe damon fucking allbran's cartoons had a career lasting more than one novelty single let alone one which they've become actual veterans of the industry

marina, why do you enunciate like a moron

deerhunter is just...idk, the kind of band who sound like they could go on forever but your ears just fade them out after a minute. psychedelia in many shades of grey.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:56 (fourteen years ago)

Does LJ like Florence & The Machine? Because it's that sort of stage-school faux-indie bollocks that Marina & The Diamonds reminds me of.

Wasn't impressed by the previous couple of Deerhunter albums, but would be willing to give it a go.

emil.y, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:57 (fourteen years ago)

so fucking glad i was on the phone interviewing waka flocka flame for the past 3 albums smh smh

lex otm!
I dunno, I get strong b.s. vibes from the whole Deerhunter enterprise--I've heard some songs I like from the band, but this album esp. screams 'watered-down, post-p4k MOR"

but now Electric Wizard has come to save us!

lol at the witch trials (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:57 (fourteen years ago)

deerhunter is just...idk, the kind of band who sound like they could go on forever but your ears just fade them out after a minute. psychedelia in many shades of grey.

hey i kind of almost agree with lex about something!

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:58 (fourteen years ago)

marina is such a better songwriter than florence that idk man idk

have halcyon digest on comp, haven't listened yet

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:58 (fourteen years ago)

marina is such a better songwriter than florence

This can not be repeated enough.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:59 (fourteen years ago)

YESSSSS ELECTRIC WIZARD

almost voted for it, but decided to keep all my metal votes to the metal poll (which was AWESOME btw) and do a more generalist ballot for the main poll. realistically, i'd have 4-5 metal albums in my top 25. including e-wizzy.

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 18:59 (fourteen years ago)

deerhunter is just...idk, the kind of band who sound like they could go on forever but your ears just fade them out after a minute. psychedelia in many shades of grey.

I totally agree with this as a summation of the (two?) albums of theirs I've previously heard, actually.

xposts Then why does she not show this by writing some songs that aren't terrible?

emil.y, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:00 (fourteen years ago)

Black Masses is my first vote to place. Good record with a nice, thick, muddy mix. Like the last one, Witchcult Today, more but they've yet to put out a stinker.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:00 (fourteen years ago)

Although I suppose on balance you can write better songs than someone infinitely awful and still be infinitely awful yourself.

emil.y, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:00 (fourteen years ago)

I haven't listened to Florence&tM enough to fairly comment on how her songwriting compares to Marina&tD, but they don't sound all that similar to me, despite frequently being lumped together (by Marina fans and detractors alike, although increasingly it seems to come from detractors more than fans).

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:01 (fourteen years ago)

marina is such a better songwriter than florence

This can not be repeated enough.

well okay, i mean, similarly, stuart murdoch may be a better songwriter than conor oberst (or vice versa, i dont care enough to find out), but who would wanna hear either of them?? ¯\(°_o)/¯

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:01 (fourteen years ago)

xxxxxp when the #1 album from the metal poll shows up @ #47 here, you should def. be throwing points to metal bands!

(not criticizing you, ilxor, I didn't vote; just sayin...)

lol at the witch trials (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:01 (fourteen years ago)

Black Masses is my first vote to place. Good record with a nice, thick, muddy mix.

pretty good mix imo but the drums are TOO LOW ;_;

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:02 (fourteen years ago)

i don't like florence either and kind of think her aesthetic is pretty bankrupt, maybe more so than marina who at least seems to be doing something of her own rather than just a c-rate amalgam of various influences & signifiers - but god knows my ears would rather hear florence's bray over marina's completely insufferable "quirky" affectations

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:02 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i totally shoulda voted metal here also, regret not doing so now

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:02 (fourteen years ago)

Electric Wizard are great, I voted for that, and anyone who likes it should check out their other records, in particular "Dopethrone", which is possibly the heaviest record ever.

Neil S, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:03 (fourteen years ago)

I don't get any individuality from Marina at all, but I shall shut up and let the metallers bask in their votes.

emil.y, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

Electric Wizard - Satyr IX

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:05 (fourteen years ago)

¯\(°_o)/¯

(°_X)

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:05 (fourteen years ago)

xp "faux-indie bollocks"

No, its more wanna-be soul singers produced by Kate Bush admirers. Marina has better songs, Florence a better voice, but I'll take Glasser, Bat for Lashes, or Siobhan Donaghy (and keep an eye on Zola J.) over either of them.

great disorder under heaven: the situation is excellent (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:06 (fourteen years ago)

whenever i wonder if i'm being too harsh on marina and florence, someone always comes along and mentions glasser and i'm like, no, THAT is what good music is, i'm not being harsh ENOUGH

though i trust we'll get to talk about glasser much later :)

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:08 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTvy6OkJetI/AAAAAAAAATI/Io4QkmpPK5c/bigkrit.jpg

46. BIG K.R.I.T. — K.R.I.T. Wuz Here (344 points, 11 votes)
P&J: 285th
Pitchfork: DNP

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

i didn't get beyond just liking that krit mixtape but "country shit" was one of the songs of summer

SUPERFLY DUTTY DUTTY

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

ooh have had this on my hd for weeks but have yet to listen. will tonight.

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

Moving from R Kelly to Electric Wizard and gotta say that I'm enjoying the first 2 tracks of 'Black Masses'.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

Woohoo pandemic! Those are my two favorites today. R. Kelly was one of the last cuts off my ballot.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:12 (fourteen years ago)

love the last song on this one

talk talk talk (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:13 (fourteen years ago)

actually listening back, the big krit mixtape does have a really great southern fried vibe to it - anything that reminds me so strongly of ugk and t.i. gets a thumbs up from me

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:14 (fourteen years ago)

Moving from R Kelly to Electric Wizard

see, ppl who criticize the "shuffle" function on computers/mp3 players do not get the beauty of such a thing as this

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

hopefully all my rap picks will place if big krit got that many votes

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

i do love this big krit a lot, back on again now.

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

"Country Shit" is great (same rhyme scheme as "Kush" -- which arrived first?)

Didn't know K.R.I.T. until just now, though. Is this the place to start, or is there a better one?

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

hopefully all my rap picks will place if big krit got that many votes

goon poll comparisons so far - curren$y was #6, big krit was #7, gucci's mr. zone 6 was #13

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:19 (fourteen years ago)

xp i think this is all there is of him so far?

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:20 (fourteen years ago)

ok cool

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:20 (fourteen years ago)

Didn't know K.R.I.T. until just now, though. Is this the place to start, or is there a better one?

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, February 1, 2011 2:18 PM (43 seconds ago)

his mixtape from 2009, the last king is also great & was on my ballot last year. rev & deej also big boosters of that one

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

oh yeah i loved "viktorious" off krit wuz here too. piano! <3

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

oh he's been around longer than i thought then

but yeah this is his first "album" not that it means anything these days in rapworld

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:22 (fourteen years ago)

KRIT wuz here and Before KRIT wuz here are both easily hunted down online and provide an excellent primer.
Also i will certainly buy this today: http://yourstrulysf.bandcamp.com/album/yourstru-ly-presents-big-k-r-i-t-grillade-the-wuz-here-sessions

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

he's also got some other lesser-known mixtapes from years past (see me on top or something) but i've never really dug into those - he only started to get internet attn at the tail end of 09 and he kinda blew up with this last one

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv2cYjEsKI/AAAAAAAAAV4/tWHjPHUuB5w/panthaduprince.jpg

45. PANTHA DU PRINCE — Black Noise (348 points, 15 votes)
P&J: 95th
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:25 (fourteen years ago)

really?! i thought this was hugely disappointing after this bliss - nothing like the depth of sound as on that, shallow and nothingy.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:26 (fourteen years ago)

deerhunter album is fine for what it is, but i've never figured out how to love them. liked the fluorescent gray EP quite a bit, but the albums leave me cold. i can see the basic appeal in that the sounds are pretty, but i'm never entirely swept away, and the melodies beneath the haze are too limp to make much impression. i know that lots of people love them, though, so i'll grant that they must be doing something right, but whatever it is, it's in my blind spot.

"desire lines" is a standout though.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:28 (fourteen years ago)

xp disagree, it's beautiful, very melancholy with great attention to detail production-wise.

Neil S, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:28 (fourteen years ago)

the kind of band who sound like they could go on forever but your ears just fade them out after a minute

I think there's a sort of truth in this, but I don't necessarily see it as a negative.

Tyler/Perry's "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:32 (fourteen years ago)

47. ELECTRIC WIZARD — Black Masses (334 points, 10 votes)
P&J: 334th
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, February 1, 2011 10:56 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark

FUCK YES

one of only six "proper" metal albums on my ballot, and i was pretty sure it'd place, but still psyched to see it break the top 50. excellent record from a band on a roll - inspirational after the relative weakness of let us prey and we live.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:33 (fourteen years ago)

another big krit standout - gumpshun - so light and bbq-vibey

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:34 (fourteen years ago)

xp "Witchcult Today" was v good though.

Neil S, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:34 (fourteen years ago)

marina is not a wannabe soul-singer ffs

almost voted for pantha du prince, good record

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:35 (fourteen years ago)

KRIT wuz here and Before KRIT wuz here are both easily hunted down online and provide an excellent primer.
Also i will certainly buy this today: http://yourstrulysf.bandcamp.com/album/yourstru-ly-presents-big-k-r-i-t-grillade-the-wuz-here-sessions

― الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, February 1, 2011 2:23 PM (12 minutes ago)

eh no "the south" "big brother" "fuck action" "i ain't gon play wit em" on this -- go with the last king

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:37 (fourteen years ago)

xp "Witchcult Today" was v good though.

oh hell yeah, was trying to imply that. love the last two albums.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:38 (fourteen years ago)

i liked cryptograms and the EP after that w/ the orange-y cover,. microcastle was kinda snoozy, same w/ this new one.

this is how I feel about Deerhunter too but since it has made this thread I surely owe the new one another few chances

cellular nekomata (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv62Tl-NHI/AAAAAAAAAYE/T91AytQBUG0/tylerthecreator.jpg

44. TYLER, THE CREATOR — Bastard (352 points, 14 votes)
P&J: 371st
Pitchfork: 32nd

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

pantha du prince and big krit basically unknown to me. unreservedly dig "country shit", not yet sure what to make of PDP.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:42 (fourteen years ago)

listened to a few of those marina and the diamonds songs. don't really get what she's trying to do. voice is cloying and all over the place.

charlie h, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:43 (fourteen years ago)

I've only heard 'French' by Tyler. It was cool, but is the consensus that Earl is better?

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

would've preferred Black Noise as a three or four track EP. 'Es Schneit' was the track I picked out from it.

idgi fridays (blueski), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:45 (fourteen years ago)

A few of my favorite tracks from the Big Krit:

Moon & Stars w/ Devin the Dude
Children of the World
2000 & Beyond

The Reverend, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:45 (fourteen years ago)

x post I quite like Marina's voice it's always reminded me of Lene Lovich which is no bad thing.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:45 (fourteen years ago)

BASTARD has definitely made the shortlist of stuff to check out from this list...

lol at the witch trials (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:46 (fourteen years ago)

I've only heard 'French' by Tyler. It was cool, but is the consensus that Earl is better?

― waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Tuesday, February 1, 2011 11:44 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

bastard (the tyler record) is great, earl is better though, imo. voted for both.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

This latest album I am completely unfamiliar with. Maybe I've heard the band name, but not even sure of that. I'm glad Black Noise placed even though I ended up losing my love for it pretty quickly. (My basic distaste for techno is not easy to overcome.) I think the sound palate is often terrific and some of the rhythmic developments are nice. I still have hopes I'll click with it again. (FWIW I went on to try This Bliss while I was still having my affair with Black Noise and I didn't like it at all. Too many of those cosmic synth sounds I got tired of a long time ago when I used to listen to lots of electronic music, pre-rave.)

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

Oddly enough I was one of the few people who enjoyed 'black noise' more than 'this bliss'. 'This bliss' had better songs but I couldn't get into it as an album 'black noise' seemed more cohesive to my ears. Theyre both two or three songs too long tho.

Moka, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

From Bastard

French
Assmilk w/ Earl Sweatshirt
Bastard <-- emo

The Reverend, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:49 (fourteen years ago)

bastard is great, it's a more of a full album than earl and has some more serious introspective/emo bits. the title track is some heavy shit but i think it's pretty powerful. 'assmilk' is the funniest punchline-iest odd future track to date.

earl is better but not by lightyears

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:49 (fourteen years ago)

"Grocery Store" is the funniest OF track imo but "Assmilk" is very close.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:51 (fourteen years ago)

oh right forgot about that one, i think i agree

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:51 (fourteen years ago)

it's 'super market' though iirc

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:51 (fourteen years ago)

"Grocery Store" "Super Market"

The Reverend, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:51 (fourteen years ago)

ha. yeah

The Reverend, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:52 (fourteen years ago)

For a minute there I thought the Deerhunter album cover was actually Antony & the Johnsons.

Moka, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:52 (fourteen years ago)

(times is changin'...did this really not place in the Pitchfork eoy list?)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv205enpGI/AAAAAAAAAWY/_XZ79Pje-2g/spoon.jpg

43. SPOON — Transference (374 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)
P&J: 28th
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

was really hoping that the tyler record wld place higher - i had it @ #2 on my list. not really interested in its formal charms (it fukken bangs obvs) but value it so much for both its emotional immediacy & scope. its probably p herbish to reach for comparisons outside rap but stuff like the title track is str8 up some portrait of the artist self-examination & reach.

Lamp, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

<3 Spoon but that album is boring as fuck.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:54 (fourteen years ago)

has some more serious introspective/emo bits

u might also like the new bright eyes album fyi

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:54 (fourteen years ago)

i submitted unranked but spoon couldve been my #1

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:54 (fourteen years ago)

spoon album's a grower

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:54 (fourteen years ago)

well okay, i mean, similarly, stuart murdoch may be a better songwriter than conor oberst (or vice versa, i dont care enough to find out), but who would wanna hear either of them?? ¯\(°_o)/¯

― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, February 1, 2011 11:01 AM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark

not a hater, one love, but if you could figure out how to not mention how TOTALLY NOT INDIE you are every time something indie comes up it would make me cum rainbows.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:55 (fourteen years ago)

didn't vote for the spoon album, it never cohered as an album for me but there are some good songs on it, "who makes your money" in particular is probably one of the best nu-spoon songs

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:55 (fourteen years ago)

Only heard the Tyler record after voting had closed, but I liked it a lot.

emil.y, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:56 (fourteen years ago)

<3 Spoon but that album is boring as fuck.

― The Reverend, Tuesday, February 1, 2011 2:54 PM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink


this was my initial reaction to it but i tried again a few months later and it slayed me

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:56 (fourteen years ago)

In fact, I wish I had voted for that instead of my bottom placing vote which will be #1 in this bloody poll.

xpost to self.

emil.y, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:56 (fourteen years ago)

here is who makes your money from "transference"

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:57 (fourteen years ago)

like i can see ppl prefering the earl record better or even the mellowhype on technical grounds - they probably have 'better' songs - but as a whole i think 'bastard''s ability to present the exhilarating conflicted inner life of teenage kid in a way thats never condescending or amateurish or corny is p valuable and great

i also voted for the ikonika record for almost opposite reasons - dont think that she really 'says anything' but formally its a p inspired and listenable sound

Lamp, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:58 (fourteen years ago)

actually maybe i should have voted for transference, kind of forgot how many jams it has on it

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:58 (fourteen years ago)

sooooo many jams

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:59 (fourteen years ago)

Spoon may have three or four better albums than this one but it's still a really strong record, definitely a grower. They just have such a high standard of albums.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:01 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv2dK-kXzI/AAAAAAAAAWE/xDOyPz0bCNU/rickross.jpg

42. RICK ROSS — Teflon Don (380 points, 12 votes)
P&J: 34th
Pitchfork: 38th
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:03 (fourteen years ago)

Thx for those Tyler links Rev. They've sold me on the album:)

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:03 (fourteen years ago)

^^ awesome

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:03 (fourteen years ago)

sigh

or rather, wheeze

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:03 (fourteen years ago)

when did everyone get on the ross boat itt

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

i submitted unranked but spoon couldve been my #1

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, February 1, 2011 2:54 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

spoon album's a grower

― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, February 1, 2011 2:54 PM

wait, really? i'm w/ Rev on this one, but i'll have to revisit the record i guess

markers, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

yes really

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:05 (fourteen years ago)

when did everyone get on the ross boat itt

rap fans : rick ross :: pop fans : katy perry

radio version of stockholm syndrome. someone has to fill a vacuum

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:05 (fourteen years ago)

when did everyone get on the ross boat itt

"speedin" iirc

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:06 (fourteen years ago)

"who makes your money" in particular is probably one of the best nu-spoon songs

Never understood the praise for that one. I like "The Mystery Zone" and "Got Nuffin" best.

Tyler/Perry's "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:07 (fourteen years ago)

radio version of stockholm syndrome. someone has to fill a vacuum

deja-vu

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:08 (fourteen years ago)

'out go the lights' is one of the most stunning spoon songs imo

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:08 (fourteen years ago)

when did everyone get in the ross maybach itt

odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:08 (fourteen years ago)

Not that "Who Makes Your Money" is a bad tune -- just not one of the highlights of the album, IMO.

Tyler/Perry's "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:08 (fourteen years ago)

ilxor don't you be dissing Stuart Murdoch, them's fightin' words!

sleeve, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

Never understood the praise for that one ["who makes your money"]. I like "The Mystery Zone" and "Got Nuffin" best.

― Tyler/Perry's "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" (jaymc), Tuesday, February 1, 2011 12:07 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

this. imo, "who makes your money" highlights the album's problems: interesting production/arrangements and deep grooves trying to disguise lackluster songwriting. "the mystery zone" is better, but pales in comparison to their best tracks from the early 00s.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:14 (fourteen years ago)

my challops for today is that 'live fast die young' was the best kanye track of 2010

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:14 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv7AHnAddI/AAAAAAAAAYY/ru4EyfgguKg/yeasayer.jpg

41. YEASAYER — Odd Blood (380 points, 13 votes)
P&J: 45th
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:16 (fourteen years ago)

equal on points w/ Rick Ross

Neil S, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:17 (fourteen years ago)

This was my #2. I still play it more regularly than a ton of other shit that came out a year ago.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:17 (fourteen years ago)

the first five tracks are the best 5-song ep of the year

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:18 (fourteen years ago)

yeasayer album's got some really great high points..... and some really embarrasing lows, too

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:20 (fourteen years ago)

ooooh otm xp

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:20 (fourteen years ago)

Here's a funny little statistical thing that you can feel free to ignore. At first, it seems like it makes total sense to break point ties using the number of votes an album got, but doesn't that also mean that on average the people who voted for Yeasayer liked that album less than the people who voted for Rick Ross liked his album?

Parenthetical Grillz, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:21 (fourteen years ago)

there's something a little bit off about Yeasayer - O.N.E. is mixtape gold but could never get completely into the rest of the album.

SPOON - surprisingly slight on first listen and even more surprisingly rewarding the more times you hear it. There are a ton of great ideas and hooks slapdashed together. It's easy to see why people prefer their more polished early albums but this would probably be the one I take to the desert island. Then again Spoon is far down the list of bands I would need on a desert island.

TYLER - completely unfamiliar with this.

PANTHA - this was my introduction to Pantha du Prince and I find it similar in quality and pretty much everything else to the debut album. Didn't make my top 25 but it was very close and he put on a solid live show in DC.

skip, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:22 (fourteen years ago)

Nah, I've thought about that, but the simple fact that if Rick Ross has one more supporter it would've had more than 380 points means that Yeasayer gets the nod by having more individual people vote for it.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:23 (fourteen years ago)

Back tomorrow with #s 21-40. Here's the recap

77. HARVEY MILK — A Small Turn of Human Kindness (240 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
76. QUADRON — Quadron (240 points, 12 votes)
75. RIHANNA — Loud (244 points, 9 votes)
74. ZOLA JESUS — Stridulum II (244 points, 10 votes)
73. THIRD EYE FOUNDATION — The Dark (246 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes)
(TIE) 71. THE TALLEST MAN ON EARTH — The Wild Hunt (250 points, 8 votes)
(TIE) 71. KYLIE MINOGUE — Aphrodite (250 points, 8 votes)
70. WARPAINT — The Fool (250 points, 9 votes)
69. SUN ARAW — On Patrol (252 points, 8 votes)
68. NO AGE — Everything in Between (256 points, 11 votes)
67. GAYNGS — Relayted (258 points, 10 votes)
66. GUCCI MANE — Mr. Zone 6 (260 points, 9 votes)
65. SUN CITY GIRLS — Funeral Mariachi (260 points, 9 votes, 2 first place votes)
64. THE RADIO DEPT. — Clinging to a Scheme (266 points, 11 votes)
63. THE KNIFE — Tomorrow, In a Year (270 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
62. THE NATIONAL — High Violet (270 points, 9 votes)
61. ENSLAVED — Axioma Ethica Odini (272 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)

60. KELIS — Flesh Tone (272 points, 11 votes)
59. CURREN$Y — Pilot Talk II (272 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)
58. IKONIKA — Contact, Love, Want, Have (276 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote)
57. R. KELLY — Love Letter (284 points, 12 votes)
56. THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS — Further (286 points, 10 votes)
(TIE) 54. NEIL YOUNG — Le Noise (290 points, 11 votes)
(TIE) 54. THE FALL — Your Future Our Clutter (290 points, 11 votes)
53. RANGDA — False Flag (306 points, 9 votes)
52. JAVIERA MENA - Mena (310 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes)
51. CRYSTAL CASTLES — Crystal Castles (312 points, 13 votes)
50. GORILLAZ — Plastic Beach (316 points, 12 votes)
49. MARINA & THE DIAMONDS — The Family Jewels (320 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)
48. DEERHUNTER — Halcyon Digest (320 points, 13 votes)
47. ELECTRIC WIZARD — Black Masses (334 points, 10 votes)
46. BIG K.R.I.T. — K.R.I.T. Wuz Here (344 points, 11 votes)
45. PANTHA DU PRINCE — Black Noise (348 points, 15 votes)
44. TYLER, THE CREATOR — Bastard (352 points, 14 votes)
43. SPOON — Transference (374 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)
42. RICK ROSS — Teflon Don (380 points, 12 votes)
41. YEASAYER — Odd Blood (380 points, 13 votes)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:27 (fourteen years ago)

you'd also have to consider the ~90 people who didn't vote for yeasayer and the ~91 people who didn't vote for rick ross if you're gonna talk about average scores. ross gets one more 0 averaged in.

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:28 (fourteen years ago)

so yeah the people who did vote for it liked it more but on the flipside there were more people who didn't consider it worthy

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:29 (fourteen years ago)

great point

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:29 (fourteen years ago)

Tried to Teflon Don once but nothing stuck.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:30 (fourteen years ago)

Obviously pleased to see Your Future Our Clutter by The Fall, a record awash with hospital drugs, bleak introspection and exotic fancy, plus the hardest most spectral sound they've managed for ages. A Turner painting to their early to late 80s Hogarth. Really hope the Earl Sweatshirt album places as well - just incredible, in some ways perhaps not totally dissimilar to YFOC in feel - deep sounds, coagulated, clotted flow, mundane and horrible. My No. 2 from last year. Really liked the Kelis as well.

Herr Kapitan Pugvosh (GamalielRatsey), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:37 (fourteen years ago)

Good to see Electric Wizard make the top 50 but you would've expected it to be higher considering it actually won the metal poll.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

since i last posted about this being a poor showing for the girls, the ratio's actually gone even further down - just 11/37 now (including mixed-gender bands). am sure this will improve but it's definitely notable so far.

(i may have missed some? marina, crystal castles, javiera mena, ikonika, kelis, the knife, warpaint, kylie, zola jesus, rihanna, quadron.)

today i liked the #60-#57 run very much. then it stopped.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:44 (fourteen years ago)

wr2 lex's concern, are these the only female artists/acts with female members to place today?

KELIS — Flesh Tone
IKONIKA — Contact, Love, Want, Have
THE FALL — Your Future Our Clutter
JAVIERA MENA - Mena
CRYSTAL CASTLES — Crystal Castles
MARINA & THE DIAMONDS — The Family Jewels
ELECTRIC WIZARD — Black Masses

yesterday we had:

QUADRON — Quadron
RIHANNA — Loud
ZOLA JESUS — Stridulum II
KYLIE MINOGUE — Aphrodite
WARPAINT — The Fool
THE KNIFE — Tomorrow, In a Year

13/37 by my count

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:45 (fourteen years ago)

i can't count but my point stands!

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:48 (fourteen years ago)

actually no, i just didn't realise the fall and electric wizard had female members. (the fall? are you SURE?)

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:48 (fourteen years ago)

hell yeahs for feb 01:

CURREN$Y — Pilot Talk II
THE FALL — Your Future Our Clutter
RANGDA — False Flag
JAVIERA MENA — Mena
ELECTRIC WIZARD — Black Masses
TYLER, THE CREATOR — Bastard

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:49 (fourteen years ago)

(the fall? are you SURE?

mark is concerned with efficiency and employs his consorts

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

After wiffing yesterday, a fifth of my ballot showed up today.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

ODD BLOOD FUTURE OUR CLUTTER WOLF GANG KILL THEM FALL

some dude, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:51 (fourteen years ago)

I've either not heard or don't have a strong opinion on most of this section but I think Lex is wrong about Black Noise - it's not different enough from This Bliss to really like one and dislike the other. Actually I'd say overall Black Noise would be better if it weren't for a) Panda Bear and b) This Bliss containing Saturn Strobe, which obviously makes it twice the record Black Noise is.

I can't actually bear to listen to the Marina & The Diamonds album because of her voice, and the occasional moment when it sounds like a female-fronted Kaiser Chiefs.

The Yeasayer album has its moments but sags so badly in the second half and there are some terrible lyrics in the first half as well. And good god, the voice.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:52 (fourteen years ago)

i guess pilot talk II is more of a "well, yeah" for me tbh, but i do like it.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:52 (fourteen years ago)

Nice to see Pantha du Prince up there! Didn't expect that one up here. And good to see The Fall obv.

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

there are some terrible lyrics in the first half as well. And good god, the voice.

tell em. sonics are occasionally impressive, but i hate the vocalist and the lyrics, can't get past it.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:54 (fourteen years ago)

Consensus indie albums be underperforming here as well. Deerhunter, Warpaint, Zola Jesus, The National, Yeasayer, Gayngs all lower than I'd have expected.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:54 (fourteen years ago)

nothing against rangda but that album placing above funeral mariachi is o_O

^ probably more bullshit self-aggrandizement and non-essential info (Edward III), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:55 (fourteen years ago)

it's not different enough from This Bliss to really like one and dislike the other

yeah i don't HATE black noise, i'm just bored by it - kind of like a pale imitation of this bliss

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 20:56 (fourteen years ago)

this is for lex

lol at the witch trials (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:04 (fourteen years ago)

also UMG regulations are the suxxor!

lol at the witch trials (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:04 (fourteen years ago)

nothing against rangda but that album placing above funeral mariachi is o_O

― ^ probably more bullshit self-aggrandizement and non-essential info (Edward III), Tuesday, February 1, 2011 12:55 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

agree, but i'm not surprised. rangda's on a bigger label w better distribution and more promo power. SCG still seen by many as a cultish joke band.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:05 (fourteen years ago)

when did everyone get on the ross boat itt

"speedin" iirc

― ciderpress, Tuesday, February 1, 2011 3:06 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark

ha, i heard this song driving home a few mins ago and thought "jesus his new shit is so much better than this"

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:06 (fourteen years ago)

most disgusting savages

xp

^ probably more bullshit self-aggrandizement and non-essential info (Edward III), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:07 (fourteen years ago)

results kinda bizarre tbh, but some good shit

ppl should check out the "moon & stars" remix w/ killa kyleon & currensy

currensy was on two of the best remixes of the year (that one & the "super high" ross rmx w/ wiz)

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:07 (fourteen years ago)

drugs a money, that video contains content from UMG and is not available in my country :(

i wonder whether record labels are EVER gonna sort territorial restrictions out?

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:07 (fourteen years ago)

the fall? are you SURE?

mark is concerned with efficiency and employs his consorts

This is pretty unfair - there have been plenty of other females in the band besides MES' wives/girlfriends.

emil.y, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:08 (fourteen years ago)

i think ross has really stepped up artistically, his radio jams are as good as ever & the album holds together better than anything he's did -- he progressed from having his music prop up an image that people could buy into to being a genuinely good rapper, much more concerned w/ imagery (lyrically speaking) -- he became much more writerly

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:09 (fourteen years ago)

forgot about the yeasayer album -- i didn't vote for it & actually kinda forgot about it but i think it's pretty good all the way thru, altho yeah it does have like 3 titanic highs, but their last album was the same way

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:09 (fourteen years ago)

I should have given Electric Wizard record a go by now, god knows I've loved some of their previous.

The two things I voted for today were Crystal Castles (their best songs yet and I still find their whole trebly electro-shock blare really exhilarating) and Pantha du Prince. Overall, it seems like quite a conservative bunch of albums in this section (my own votes included).

seminal fuiud (NickB), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:11 (fourteen years ago)

re the funeral mariachi/false flag divide. same number of ppl voted for each, but rangda got 5 more points per vote, on average. so it'd seem that the people who care were more impressed by FF than FM, which does kinda blow my mind (not that there's anything wrong with the rangda album, but smdh). oddly, two people voted FM #1 and no one did the same for FF. was just generally more well-liked i guess. no accounting for taste...

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:12 (fourteen years ago)

This is pretty unfair - there have been plenty of other females in the band besides MES' wives/girlfriends.

plenty's a strong word--only significant female member I can think of who MES had not dated is Marcia Schofield

lol at the witch trials (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:13 (fourteen years ago)

Were Mark and Una Baines an item?

seminal fuiud (NickB), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:14 (fourteen years ago)

"mark is concerned with efficiency and employs his consorts"

This is pretty unfair - there have been plenty of other females in the band besides MES' wives/girlfriends.

― emil.y, Tuesday, February 1, 2011 1:08 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

a joke (around a kernel of truth). meant no offense.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:14 (fourteen years ago)

i think ross has really stepped up artistically, his radio jams are as good as ever & the album holds together better than anything he's did -- he progressed from having his music prop up an image that people could buy into to being a genuinely good rapper, much more concerned w/ imagery (lyrically speaking) -- he became much more writerly

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, February 1, 2011 4:09 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

more writerly than not writerly at all is still dull as a doorknob imo

some dude, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:14 (fourteen years ago)

xxp yeah I'm pretty sure. In the BBC documentary Una talks about MES leaving Una for her co-worker/roommate Kay Carroll

lol at the witch trials (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:15 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i see u -- i mean i think threw the album at the bottom of my ballot if at all but the three singles after "super high" are pretty much bangers -- i totally understand why he's a 'thing' now

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:16 (fourteen years ago)

xp to al

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:16 (fourteen years ago)

The scurvy wretch! xxp

seminal fuiud (NickB), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:17 (fourteen years ago)

"Aston Martin Music" is the worst imo

some dude, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:17 (fourteen years ago)

I know it's not a bastion of reliability, but running down wikipedia's list of members there are five (not counting 'additional members') who aren't noted as being in relationships with MES while in the band. And I don't think Brix's second stint coincided with a renewing of their relationship, did it?

emil.y, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:18 (fourteen years ago)

"Aston Martin Music" is the worst imo

― some dude, Tuesday, February 1, 2011 4:17 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

it's def a cut below "bmf/"mc hammer" & i'll flip around when it comes on (partly cuz it gets played so much down here) but it's still an above average radio rap song

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:20 (fourteen years ago)

oh we're counting "MC Hammer" as a single? i mean not really

some dude, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:23 (fourteen years ago)

man i never even heard bmf on the radio up here

boston's got only one rap/r&b station as far as i know and it pretty much only plays chart toppers

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:26 (fourteen years ago)

xp to emil.y: I legitimately missed Karen Leathem, and forgot about Yvonne Pawlett (who is awesome!) but the rest--Julia, Kay, Brix, Una, Lucy, Elena--all dated MES at one time or another. (Women in the Fall would not be a bad poll, I'm thinking...)

Brix's second stint with the band did not mean they hooked up again, no, but they definitely foregrounded their broken marriage in the music. Check out the Peel Sessions version of "Glam Racket/Star," cut after Light User Syndrome if I'm not mistaken...

as for Lex: sorry man, it said that for me too, so I was hoping you could see it in the UK. Anywho, it was an album version of the song that MES's wife sang on the Fall's last album, Imperial Wax Solvent

lol at the witch trials (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:27 (fourteen years ago)

boston's got only one rap/r&b station as far as i know and it pretty much only plays chart toppers

― ciderpress, Tuesday, February 1, 2011 4:26 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hot 87.7 dude! (tends to only come in w/in boston proper, dunno where you are)

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:29 (fourteen years ago)

Yvonne Pawlett, ahem. I think MES feels quite strongly about having women in the group and prefers it if at all possible. On thread matter- I get slightly frightened when I see things like Pantha du Prince and Deerhunter (the albums here anyway) because while they seem ok enough, there's nothing pulling me back - that comment about greyness otm (but then I just wonder whether my concentration levels are just 0). Am listening to the Tyler the Creator album now - good but not enjoying it as much as Earl. Will return to it tomorrow. aw xpost

Herr Kapitan Pugvosh (GamalielRatsey), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:29 (fourteen years ago)

Okay, I'll bow to your superior knowledge. And yeah, obviously the history between MES and Brix was prominent second time around - is she widely regarded as the most well-known woman of the Fall or was it just because her reappearance coincided with me getting into them that she's the first one that springs to mind?

xposts

emil.y, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:30 (fourteen years ago)

Definitely the most well-known, emil.y (not least I guess now because of her career now, but also because her arrival coincided with a certain commercial profile). Eleni goes from strength to strength imo. That Brix, Nagle, Lucy Rimmer dynamic musta been interesting.

Herr Kapitan Pugvosh (GamalielRatsey), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:33 (fourteen years ago)

A necessary KRIT song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf_EgwVmXLk

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:35 (fourteen years ago)

yeah Gamaliel OTM MES & Brix were kind of a big deal in all the British music mags at the time. She definitely has the most notoriety, had the most impact on the band. Not a huge fan of the "pop" phase she ushered in, but still, how amazing would it have been if she had joined Hole?!

Yvonne Pawlett played keyboards on Rowche Rumble, and therefore is one of the coolest ppl alive!

lol at the witch trials (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:35 (fourteen years ago)

Nah, I've thought about that, but the simple fact that if Rick Ross has one more supporter it would've had more than 380 points means that Yeasayer gets the nod by having more individual people vote for it.

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, February 1, 2011 3:23 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark

you'd also have to consider the ~90 people who didn't vote for yeasayer and the ~91 people who didn't vote for rick ross if you're gonna talk about average scores. ross gets one more 0 averaged in.

― ciderpress, Tuesday, February 1, 2011 3:28 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

so yeah the people who did vote for it liked it more but on the flipside there were more people who didn't consider it worthy

― ciderpress, Tuesday, February 1, 2011 3:29 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

great point

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, February 1, 2011 3:29 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark

I don't know, it seems like that assumes that every single person that voted has heard both albums, which is obviously not true. Not bringin up old shit, it's just interesting the ways that consensus rises over passion in polls like this. I feel like things like that are helpful in terms of knowing how to "read" these things.

Parenthetical Grillz, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:37 (fourteen years ago)

consensus rises over passion in polls like this

Well yeah, that's how polls work. Although in this case I don't know why you're bothered by one place difference.

I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:43 (fourteen years ago)

re the funeral mariachi/false flag divide. same number of ppl voted for each, but rangda got 5 more points per vote, on average. so it'd seem that the people who care were more impressed by FF than FM, which does kinda blow my mind (not that there's anything wrong with the rangda album, but smdh). oddly, two people voted FM #1 and no one did the same for FF. was just generally more well-liked i guess. no accounting for taste...

― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, February 1, 2011 4:12 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark

I voted for Rangda and not Sun City Girl, but only because I didn't hear Funeral Mariachi until after I had submitted my ballot. Redoing it I'd have voted FM higher than FF.

sofatruck, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 21:52 (fourteen years ago)

SCG was my #1, Rangda was my #2. Clearly more people had heard the Rangda record back when the votes came in.

sleeve, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:21 (fourteen years ago)

consensus rises over passion in polls like this

yeah i hope johnny fever publishes the individual ballots!

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:41 (fourteen years ago)

There will certainly be a ballot revelation thread for anyone who wishes to publish his/her own when this is over.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:43 (fourteen years ago)

(1. interested in stats =/= bothered; 2. I know how polls work, dude)

Parenthetical Grillz, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:45 (fourteen years ago)

i would be cool with breaking ties in future polls by the highest spot it appears on anyone's ballot

ciderpress, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:46 (fourteen years ago)

I would be cool with breaking ties in future polls by disqualifying them both for having the temerity to be equally valued by the constituency.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:48 (fourteen years ago)

Just some floating thoughts about the points PG brings up...

The only reason we really take into account the # of voters per album or track is to break ties. Same with the # of first place votes. These are merely tie-breaking tools. I understand why you'd think it would make more sense to honor a smaller number of people who voted for a particular album or track more passionately, but in the case of Rick Ross/Yeasayer at 42/41 in these results, it was just as simple as 13 being a larger number than 12. There's no deeper meaning behind it.

Marina & The Diamonds had 320 points just like Deerhunter did, AND it had a first place vote (which means at least one person was REALLY passionate about it), but it only had 11 votes total whereas Deerhunter had 13.

They ended up right next to each other in the countdown, and tomorrow it probably won't bother anyone which album as 48th and 49th.

If something like this happened anywhere in the top 5, it would be a bigger concern and I could understand why people would advocate for passion rising above consensus, but it never does happen. The gaps between point totals that high up are generally large enough the question of whether to break or not break a tie that way never arises.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:54 (fourteen years ago)

xpost

Obviously, it's a super slight adjustment, but I think there's something in figuring out how to value individual passion in addition to consensus with these polls. Of course, lean too far in the other direction and you end up with the Space Jam soundtrack at #2. But it seems like a lot of people vote for things in the lower ranks that they don't feel strongly about, so things rise despite a lack of feeling behind them.

Parenthetical Grillz, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:58 (fourteen years ago)

the way Glenn & I do it in our polls is that if there's a tie, and an album has a #1 (or has more #1s) it places higher, otherwise the album with most votes is placed higher.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:00 (fourteen years ago)

# of voters is our first tiebreaker, #1 votes is our second.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:02 (fourteen years ago)

Haha I've voted for all the rap that has shown up on the poll so far, along with Pantha and Deerhunter. Pilot Talk II was my #1, it could have easily gone to KRIT but in the end I chose cohesiveness over variety.

Echoing the chorus that this R Kelly, which I'm just now hearing, is fucking great. Also fucking great: just about every song on the Rick Ross album. Aston Martin Music sounds amazing, I even don't hate Drake on it.

See Gucci that's my Gucci that's my Gucci (Whitey on the Moon), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:03 (fourteen years ago)

xpost

In other words, of course who gives a fuck about Rick Ross being one slot lower than Yeasayer. I don't. But it speaks to a way of thinking with these things that can be tinkered with until it reaches ULTIMATE PERFECTION.

Speaking for myself, I use ILM as a means of discovering music, dropping in and out of the conversation infrequently because it only takes one or two smug people to ruin that aspect of it for me. But it seems like these polls (ESPECIALLY since they happen so frequently) are a pretty great tool for discovering new music, so I feel like it's worth putting some thought into the process.

I get that even that might seem pretty minor, and it definitely is. But it could have an interesting effect on what these lists start to look like if you're consistently trying to improve how they run. Not a big deal at all. But, you know.

Parenthetical Grillz, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:08 (fourteen years ago)

I feel in synch with ILM for once--haven't heard only 11 of these so far. (Last year I'd probably heard 15 from the entire list.)

President Keyes, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:09 (fourteen years ago)

It is a little weird that the first tiebreaker and second tiebreaker reward opposing tendencies - first tiebreaker rewards number of voters (i.e. lower average placing) and second tiebreaker rewards #1 voters (tends to correspond with higher average placing).

Ari (whenuweremine), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:49 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, you're probably right, but again...they're only tiebreakers used to break ties. It means one album ends up at (for example) 42nd place and the other ends up at 41st. Not the end of the world imo.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 23:51 (fourteen years ago)

I think # of voters = lower avg placing w/r/t to tiebreakers is kind of a weird take on things. My understanding is that the reason more votes means that something w/ the same amount of points places higher is that more people wanted to see it place, hence why it showed up on more ballots...

countdown to snowmageddon (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:00 (fourteen years ago)

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSvBXhf17YYma2ch8ZFfsqX38dY1DCbMbYyHgRMCiqUkk9iOEfV

omar little, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:18 (fourteen years ago)

That makes sense obviously. It's just that it's a small example that makes me wonder if there's a way to factor in enthusiasm into these votes systematically.

Like, tedious as it would probably be to actually do, I liked deej's idea where everyone individually ranks the top 77, best to worst, and then we tally those votes. I think it'd probably be near-impossible to do (and even less possible to get people excited about) but the results would be super-interesting. Like, what is the most reviled song of these 77? What would make the difference at the top of that poll, all other things being equal?

Parenthetical Grillz, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:24 (fourteen years ago)

I am not actually suggesting we do this, ps. Only imagining what if we did.

Parenthetical Grillz, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:25 (fourteen years ago)

we really shouldn't do that. ilm is full of people who don't like atonality, harsh noises, abstraction or anything remotely challenging hyperspeed fuckprog

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:41 (fourteen years ago)

oh stop complaining

sleeve, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 00:46 (fourteen years ago)

lol can't a dude post very much in character any more - am not complaining, just having a lighthearted swipe :P besides, it'd be some milquetoast shit like [REDACTED] finishing bottom

also, the Odd Future stuff is kinda showing that atonal confrontational shit can get a large ILM audience if it's done accessibly/well. hmm

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 01:04 (fourteen years ago)

anyway we have each other sleeve <3

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 01:04 (fourteen years ago)

ilm is full of people who don't like atonality, harsh noises, abstraction

Lol wut.

Cyclone Yazoo (Trayce), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 01:05 (fourteen years ago)

ilx has lots of people who love that shit, they just don't tend to be overly represented in polls, votes, or pop music threads

Have you not heard of the noize borad

w/no hesitation (mh), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 01:28 (fourteen years ago)

ilm is full of people who don't like atonality, harsh noises, abstraction

arent all your ilm posts about mogwai?

Lamp, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 02:23 (fourteen years ago)

Plenty of people like atonality and harsh noise its just no one likes the Cardiacs there I said it.

Cyclone Yazoo (Trayce), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 02:26 (fourteen years ago)

ha!

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 02:28 (fourteen years ago)

wanted to provide a commentary on today's pix but "i don't really care about this" is a p boring opinion, never mind repeating it a dozen times over. & i already sd most of what i had to say abt the two albums i voted for.

but this is my fave tyler track fwiw

Lamp, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 02:31 (fourteen years ago)

Plenty of people like atonality and harsh noise its just no one likes the Cardiacs there I said it.

― Cyclone Yazoo (Trayce), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 02:26 (6 minutes ago)

melody is the new noise :D

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 02:34 (fourteen years ago)

haha it really does sound like JC is guesting on clean vox on this new enslaved.

charlie h, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 02:38 (fourteen years ago)

Jesus Christ?

countdown to snowmageddon (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 02:42 (fourteen years ago)

haha

jerry cantrell

charlie h, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 02:43 (fourteen years ago)

or it even sounds like steven wilson or somebody.

charlie h, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 02:46 (fourteen years ago)

okay here's my summary of today's albums for anyone that gives 1/2 a shit

loved; played lots in '10; voted for:
57. R. KELLY — Love Letter (284 points, 12 votes)
56. THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS — Further (286 points, 10 votes)
(TIE) 54. NEIL YOUNG — Le Noise (290 points, 11 votes)
53. RANGDA — False Flag (306 points, 9 votes)
45. PANTHA DU PRINCE — Black Noise (348 points, 15 votes)
42. RICK ROSS — Teflon Don (380 points, 12 votes)

heard full album too late to vote for; would vote for now because it's really really awesome:
47. ELECTRIC WIZARD — Black Masses (334 points, 10 votes)

enjoyed; missed my ballot:
60. KELIS — Flesh Tone (272 points, 11 votes)
59. CURREN$Y — Pilot Talk II (272 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)
43. SPOON — Transference (374 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)
41. YEASAYER — Odd Blood (380 points, 13 votes)

ehhh these were just okay:
(TIE) 54. THE FALL — Your Future Our Clutter (290 points, 11 votes)
51. CRYSTAL CASTLES — Crystal Castles (312 points, 13 votes)
48. DEERHUNTER — Halcyon Digest (320 points, 13 votes)

skipped full albums based on not liking individual songs:
52. JAVIERA MENA - Mena (310 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes)
50. GORILLAZ — Plastic Beach (316 points, 12 votes)
49. MARINA & THE DIAMONDS — The Family Jewels (320 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)
46. BIG K.R.I.T. — K.R.I.T. Wuz Here (344 points, 11 votes)
44. TYLER, THE CREATOR — Bastard (352 points, 14 votes)

still wanna hear badly:
58. IKONIKA — Contact, Love, Want, Have (276 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote)

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 02:49 (fourteen years ago)

I'm going to say it now and get it out of the way: the absence of Daddy Yankee's Mundial is the thing that bothers me most here. I get a feeling the ILMers it would most appeal to aesthetically also tend to listen to music in languages they don't understand.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 03:00 (fourteen years ago)

you mean jonsi fans?

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 03:04 (fourteen years ago)

ok guys here's my big overview so far:

albums I voted for:
Gucci Mane - Mr. Zone 6

albums I liked and wished I had voted for:
R. Kelly - Love Letter

phew, that took a while

peace

some dude, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 03:04 (fourteen years ago)

Crap, that was supposed to be: "get a feeling the ILMers it would most appeal to aesthetically also tend NOT to listen to music in languages they don't understand."

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 03:06 (fourteen years ago)

gosh yr tastes are so extensive and diverse, how do you manage to hear so many albums in one short year and still even have time to get on ilm??????? xp

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 03:06 (fourteen years ago)

i'm pretty confident i heard at least as many albums as most of the people in this thread, my tastes just aren't very ilx-y i guess?

some dude, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 03:16 (fourteen years ago)

i'm pretty confident a bunch of your list will be in the top 20 - yelawolf, waka, diddy all will place - so

Lamp, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 03:19 (fourteen years ago)

I haven't heard it yet, but I have a feeling you're missing out on BASTARD there, ilxor. what song did you hear that turned you off? Cuz the only one I've heard is "French" and that song rulez...

countdown to snowmageddon (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 03:24 (fourteen years ago)

oh yeah i know, there's at least 5 or more albums on my ballot that will definitely show up. just joking around and thought ilxor's response was weird. xpost

some dude, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 03:25 (fourteen years ago)

Um, I'm drunk. Possibly shouldn't be posting at all...

Album I voted for:

58. IKONIKA — Contact, Love, Want, Have (276 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote)

Would have voted for if I'd heard it in time:

47. ELECTRIC WIZARD — Black Masses (334 points, 10 votes)

Have heard, didn't care enough to vote for:

52. JAVIERA MENA - Mena (310 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes)
49. MARINA & THE DIAMONDS — The Family Jewels (320 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)
48. DEERHUNTER — Halcyon Digest (320 points, 13 votes)
45. PANTHA DU PRINCE — Black Noise (348 points, 15 votes)
41. YEASAYER — Odd Blood (380 points, 13 votes)

Intend to hear soon:

(TIE) 54. NEIL YOUNG — Le Noise (290 points, 11 votes)
(TIE) 54. THE FALL — Your Future Our Clutter (290 points, 11 votes)
53. RANGDA — False Flag (306 points, 9 votes)
44. TYLER, THE CREATOR — Bastard (352 points, 14 votes)

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 03:39 (fourteen years ago)

77. HARVEY MILK — A Small Turn of Human Kindness: This is punk, right? Haven't listened to it but am kind of curious. I like to listen to stuff that n/a is into, even if I don't like it.
76. QUADRON — Quadron (240 points, 12 votes): Never heard it.
75. RIHANNA — Loud (244 points, 9 votes): Like "What's My Name" a lot. Never heard a Rihanna album in full, though (not sure why).
74. ZOLA JESUS — Stridulum II (244 points, 10 votes): Liked the Stridulum EP, though it was kind of one-note?
73. THIRD EYE FOUNDATION — The Dark (246 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes): Name sounds like bad '90s trance.
(TIE) 71. THE TALLEST MAN ON EARTH — The Wild Hunt (250 points, 8 votes): Who?
(TIE) 71. KYLIE MINOGUE — Aphrodite (250 points, 8 votes): Voted for this! Was kind of disappointed by it at first -- in contrast to X, which I loved -- but it's just really solid pop songwriting.
70. WARPAINT — The Fool (250 points, 9 votes): What?
69. SUN ARAW — On Patrol (252 points, 8 votes): Ditto.
68. NO AGE — Everything in Between (256 points, 11 votes): Ha, you know, I thought Nouns was pretty good but for some reason had no inclination to listen to this.
67. GAYNGS — Relayted (258 points, 10 votes): Don't really know their deal, except that they're Pitchfork fodder.
66. GUCCI MANE — Mr. Zone 6 (260 points, 9 votes): "Lemonade" is the only Gucci song I've heard, and it didn't do much for me.
65. SUN CITY GIRLS — Funeral Mariachi (260 points, 9 votes, 2 first place votes): This is like a Hstencil band, right?
64. THE RADIO DEPT. — Clinging to a Scheme (266 points, 11 votes): Never heard them, but I have a weird feeling I might like them.
63. THE KNIFE — Tomorrow, In a Year (270 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote): Have v. much enjoyed Knife/Fever Ray in the past, but I guess this seemed like a detour that I didn't want to bother with.
62. THE NATIONAL — High Violet (270 points, 9 votes): A couple of decent songs (I'll still defend "Bloodbuzz Ohio"), but mostly kind of boring.
61. ENSLAVED — Axioma Ethica Odini (272 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote): Metal, I'm assuming.
60. KELIS — Flesh Tone (272 points, 11 votes): Feel like I might've downloaded this but never listened to it.
59. CURREN$Y — Pilot Talk II (272 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote): Loooooove it. Voted for both Curren$y albums, actually, but this one is a little higher because it's just so focused. You know what I particularly love on this album? Fiend's verse on "O.G. (The Jam)." That dude's voice is gold.
58. IKONIKA — Contact, Love, Want, Have (276 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote): Never heard of it.
57. R. KELLY — Love Letter (284 points, 12 votes): Enjoyed his perf on Fallon or whatever it was.
56. THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS — Further (286 points, 10 votes): The Chemical Bros. are still making music?
(TIE) 54. NEIL YOUNG — Le Noise (290 points, 11 votes): Feel like I might like this.
(TIE) 54. THE FALL — Your Future Our Clutter (290 points, 11 votes): Don't like the Fall.
53. RANGDA — False Flag (306 points, 9 votes): I forget if this is metal or noise. Doesn't La Lechera like them?
52. JAVIERA MENA - Mena (310 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes): <3. Another one I voted for. She's fantastic. I initially thought "Hasta La Verdad" was the clear standout track, too, but there's really not a dud on here. Like all the ca. 1990 styles.
51. CRYSTAL CASTLES — Crystal Castles (312 points, 13 votes): Dig the Robert Smith song.
50. GORILLAZ — Plastic Beach (316 points, 12 votes): Listened to this twice. Boring.
49. MARINA & THE DIAMONDS — The Family Jewels (320 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote): Never heard it.
48. DEERHUNTER — Halcyon Digest (320 points, 13 votes): I like this quite a bit but don't love it -- voted for it near the bottom of my ballot. Lots of pretty languorous tunes here, though, esp. "Helicopter." ("Desire Lines" is great, too.)
47. ELECTRIC WIZARD — Black Masses (334 points, 10 votes): Metal?
46. BIG K.R.I.T. — K.R.I.T. Wuz Here (344 points, 11 votes): Hip-hop?
45. PANTHA DU PRINCE — Black Noise (348 points, 15 votes): Think this could be a good album to fall asleep to, but otherwise, it didn't really energize me. I like the song that features Panda Bear, though, which I voted for on my tracks ballot.
44. TYLER, THE CREATOR — Bastard (352 points, 14 votes): Pitchfork?
43. SPOON — Transference (374 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote): Also voted for this low on my ballot. Not my favorite Spoon album, but surprisingly solid.
42. RICK ROSS — Teflon Don (380 points, 12 votes): Yeah, no.
41. YEASAYER — Odd Blood (380 points, 13 votes): Don't mind a couple of the singles (e.g., "O.N.E."), but something about this band irritates me.

Tyler/Perry's "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 03:39 (fourteen years ago)

65. SUN CITY GIRLS — Funeral Mariachi (260 points, 9 votes, 2 first place votes): This is like a Hstencil band, right?

HA! (yes.)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 03:42 (fourteen years ago)

ha sorry didnt mean to post a "weird" response, was supposed to be 100% obvious jokey etc.

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 04:22 (fourteen years ago)

it was hilarious

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 04:24 (fourteen years ago)

not taking the bait, sorry- already had a time-out once from this thread

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 04:30 (fourteen years ago)

i'm having two albums show up per day instead of just overall. happy that people are starting to listen to the Radio Dept. album as it is pretty good, short and works for this time of year. happy also to see the Spoon love, yes it is their weakest album in quite a long, long time but still a really solid album.

i need to hear that Knife album, i love them but wasn't really interested in that album. probably because i just bought Deep Cuts and really starting to fall in love with it.

World Series champion San Francisco Giants (Bee OK), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 04:32 (fourteen years ago)

I thought I had been keeping current this last year, but it seems maybe not. Have only heard Warpaint, The Knife, Quadron, Electric Wizard and Spoon - and some of these I've only given cursory listens to.

Decided to give the Warpaint album a proper go and you know what, it's quite nice while listening to it. Thought Undertow was the highlight. Probably a lazy comparison, but it's kind of 4ADish. Agree it could do with a few more songs

I had the Knife album on my player for ages but somehow nothing really jumped out at me. What's the back story with the opera and stuff?

Quadron is pleasant, if slightly innocuous. Parts of it remind me of stuff like the Brand New Heavies - not a good thing.

Electric Wizard is great as expected, if a bit functional. They've never managed to top Dopethrone for me, and there's been very little variation in sound since Let Us Prey, I would say.

Spoon is my favourite so far. I would say it's one of my favourites by them. There's a slapdash artisanship going on that betrays secret hypnotic moments. Very pretty in places, then raw as fuck in others.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 10:38 (fourteen years ago)

tyler and krit? less than three ilm, less than three

if there is a King Kenny, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 11:00 (fourteen years ago)

I had SCG and Rangda in my top five w/ SCG near the bottom and Rangda near the top - feel like the two albums are doing fairly different-albeit-obv-tangentially-related things, so not really that o_0 that someone might lean more towards the other one than you

Rogaine's a hell of a rug (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 11:29 (fourteen years ago)

Been too busy with IRL biz to keep up with this thread but wanted to say I'm really pleased the Quadron album placed. Such a great vibe throughout, reminds me vaguely of Shantel's Higher than the Funk. I think I like the dreamy dark stuff best, though tunes like "Pressure" are ace too.

Also pleased about the R Kelly. My favourite on that is "Lost In Your Love" which doesn't seem to get mentioned much; "Love Is" is undeniable too though.

Tim F, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 12:21 (fourteen years ago)

"taxi cab" is just mindblowingggg; the dynamic shifts in that tune are O_O

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 14:49 (fourteen years ago)

Decided to give the Warpaint album a proper go and you know what, it's quite nice while listening to it. Thought Undertow was the highlight. Probably a lazy comparison, but it's kind of 4ADish. Agree it could do with a few more songs

this is nicely otm, actually. 4ad is a totally fair comparison, i'd agree. and lots of older 4ad stuff is more about texture & mood than actual songs

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 14:50 (fourteen years ago)

hey JF and co please hurry up as I just spent half an hour making a cup of tea and if i do not having something else to now occupy me, this day is going to become -is-there-a-word-to-mean-beyond-tedious?

if there is a King Kenny, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 15:04 (fourteen years ago)

57. R. KELLY — Love Letter (284 points, 12 votes) A revelation! Well, to me anyway. Lush and beautiful. Only played it twice but will definitely revisit.

47. ELECTRIC WIZARD — Black Masses (334 points, 10 votes) If anyone ever asks me if I like metal (they don't but whatever) I would more than likely answer "nah, not really". Shows how much I know 'cos I really enjoyed this. It is unquestionably 'heavy' but not what I think of as metal. But seeing as it apparently won the ILM Metal Poll I obviously have a completely wrongheaded idea of what 'metal' is. A wonderful surprise.

46. BIG K.R.I.T. — K.R.I.T. Wuz Here (344 points, 11 votes) Only had the chance to hear this once today and hip hop usually takes me multiple plays to get into. That said at first glance this seems nicely laid back and I suspect I'll be playing it a lot over the next couple of weeks.

45. PANTHA DU PRINCE — Black Noise (348 points, 15 votes) Had seen this name before but had no idea at all what they sounded like, couldn't even make a guess as to their 'genre'. First time round while enjoyable nothing really stood out as exceptional to me. Second time around 'Stick To My Side' emerged along with 'Behind The Stars' and hopefully subsequent plays will reveal more.

43. SPOON — Transference (374 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote) The 2 highlights initially for me are 'Written In Reverse' and 'Got Nuffin' At the moment they put everything else on the record in the shade, but we'll see.

I've still yet to hear Javiera Mena, or Curren$y but will get to it today (hopefully) I'm kinda banking on being more familiar with the Top 20 but if not just more good stuff to discover.
Thanks to JF and Seandalai for the spotify links and where they don't exist other peoples selected youtube links.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 15:07 (fourteen years ago)

My favourite tracks on Spoon's album are The Mystery Zone and I Saw The Light (particularly the extended piano+drum coda).

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 15:18 (fourteen years ago)

Listening again. Good call dog latin! 'The Mystery Zone' is great, don't know why it didn't resonate first time around. Will now give 'I Saw The Light' a proper go.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 15:30 (fourteen years ago)

good to see the electric wizard album getting some new fans. That and Witchcult Today was a new sound (recorded at Toerag studios by Liam Watson) with a new line up and it completely revitalised them. There's way more to electric wizard than just Dopethrone & Come My Fanatics.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 15:35 (fourteen years ago)

Trnasference is definitely not a "listen once" album. I'm still delving into it, like a big box of lego.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 15:39 (fourteen years ago)

AG, with Electric Wizard I thought they completely jumped the shark with "We Live" - so disappointed by that album. It sounded so weak and the guy's vocals reminded me of Liam Gallagher. I don't really hear that much of a difference between their albums though.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 15:42 (fourteen years ago)

Good to hear them get back to form on Witchcult, but We Live really damaged them in my estimation.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 15:43 (fourteen years ago)

And you're 2 for 2 dog latin because 'I Saw The Light' is lovely as well - I'm a sucker for the singing of nonsense words in the middle of songs.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 15:46 (fourteen years ago)

We Live might be their weakest, but its still a good album. They were great live on that tour as the new line-up started to gel. Liam Gallagher my arse btw.
Let Us Prey is a very underrated Electric Wizard album btw.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 15:48 (fourteen years ago)

I like Let Us Prey. Reminds me of good times. I might have an Electirc Wizard day tomorrow.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 15:49 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv7AL-KViI/AAAAAAAAAYU/j2YcEmZJSZY/welove.jpg

40. WE LOVE — We Love (380 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote)
P&J: DNP
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:04 (fourteen years ago)

good afternoon johnny!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:05 (fourteen years ago)

dope album. never really saw it get much love except on ilm

just sayin, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:05 (fourteen years ago)

(so thank u ilm for letting me know abt it)

just sayin, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:06 (fourteen years ago)

^^^

Tim F, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:06 (fourteen years ago)

what is this

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:06 (fourteen years ago)

xpost hah what is this then?

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:07 (fourteen years ago)

There seem to be a lot of cover connections happening ITT.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:07 (fourteen years ago)

Does anyone actually read it when ilxor or jaymc do detailed breakdown of what albums they have heard and haven't heard or are those posts like the "Revolution No. 9" of ILX

odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:07 (fourteen years ago)

oh how amazing, another of my votes that i wasn't sure would pass. one of the most purely enjoyable electronic albums of last year - just awesome sound design, fantastically sequenced, just the right amount of stylishness. it's also pretty impressive that bpitch control is still managing to remain relevant as a label, given how fast the turnover is in dance...

no train no plane
hide me

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

(re: we love)

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

Don't think I voted for it, but good album! Worth checking if you like older Ellen Allien.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:09 (fourteen years ago)

wow!!!

totally voted for that, think its awesome: dark and glossy and full all at once. like 'sophisticated dance pop' can be sorta naff but theres so much confidence & glamour in that we love record that it carries it off

Lamp, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:09 (fourteen years ago)

Does anyone actually read it when ilxor or jaymc do detailed breakdown of what albums they have heard and haven't heard or are those posts like the "Revolution No. 9" of ILX

― odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:07 (1 minute ago)

ilxor at least seemed to have heard more than 10% of the albums

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:10 (fourteen years ago)

I am becoming slowly obsessed with the We Love album on Bpitch Control

Still love that record, anyone who's into Ellen Allien & Apparat's 'Orchestra of Bubbles' or, weirdly, the XX will find plenty to enjoy in there.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:10 (fourteen years ago)

One thing I like about the We Love album is how it starts off syncopated (almost dubstep) and then becomes more streamlined 4X4 as it progresses. It feels controlled in a way that is consistent with the whole vibe of the singers and songs.

Tim F, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:11 (fourteen years ago)

dark and glossy and full all at once. like 'sophisticated dance pop' can be sorta naff but theres so much confidence & glamour in that we love record that it carries it off

yeah perfect way to describe it - i really struggled to describe it precisely myself (and i never had to write about it properly either). it's music that would really suit a fashion show, in the best possible way.

I am becoming slowly obsessed with the We Love album on Bpitch Control for more

dope album. never really saw it get much love except on ilm

yeah pretty sad no one picked it up - i thought it could've definitely reached the same sort of audience as eg glasser

Does anyone actually read it when ilxor or jaymc do detailed breakdown of what albums they have heard and haven't heard or are those posts like the "Revolution No. 9" of ILX

i really like those detailed breakdowns when most posters do them, jaymc's was amusingly "uhh duhh dunno what this is" though :/

many xps

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:11 (fourteen years ago)

yeah it progresses so well xp

just sayin, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:12 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah it's so confidently sequenced, the way is starts of slowly and mysteriously and smokily and hits you with four bangers right at the end.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:12 (fourteen years ago)

ooh this is one album i meant to check out last year but didn't - thanks for the reminder, y'all.

Roz, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:12 (fourteen years ago)

One thing I like about the We Love album is how it starts off syncopated (almost dubstep) and then becomes more streamlined 4X4 as it progresses.

yeah i love that it finally reaches its climax with "escape destination" - which, for the song that's the most outright banger, i'd never actually play someone as a taster, because its impact is heightened so much by the way the album's built up to it

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:12 (fourteen years ago)

great cover. Is the rest of the album more like No Train or Hide Me?

skip, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:13 (fourteen years ago)

some good we love tracks:

cruise control
escape destination
underwater (johhny d remix)

Lamp, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:13 (fourteen years ago)

'No Train' is probably my favourite thing on there and it's really the bridge between the two different faces of the record.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:14 (fourteen years ago)

'No Train' is probably my favourite thing on there and it's really the bridge between the two different faces of the record.

soon ellen allien will have rejected EVERY MODE OF MODERN TRANSPORT on record (following on from "no cars! no wars!" on "wish")

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:17 (fourteen years ago)

Think 'Our Shapes' was my favourite track, really sleek and pretty.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:18 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv0u_gpvHI/AAAAAAAAAU0/gPNyU5XTJ7c/jazmine.jpg

39. JAZMINE SULLIVAN — Love Me Back (404 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)
P&J: 151st
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:18 (fourteen years ago)

so far this record (We Love) sounds pure ILM - reckon there's valid grounds for such a genre descriptor ;)

ILM is usually pretty smooth, enticing and danceable - this is no exception - am approving, even if I can't see what distinguishes it especially. Guess I'd have to listen to the entire album to get its flow. Maybe I will. On second thoughts, I like how darkly synthetic the beats and noises are. Being really processed suits this music. It has crunch. And a subtle grasp of melody. Yes.

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:19 (fourteen years ago)

FUCKING YES JAZMINE SULLIVAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:19 (fourteen years ago)

good album, i need to listen to it more

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

That's another one I keep meaning to listen to and forgetting all about.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

describe Jazmine Sullivan to me briefly and recommend a track? am kinda enjoying 'We Love' quite a lot by now so you'll have to be persuasive

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

It's another one I haven't heard (of)....

I don't know what's going on with this poll, I've heard so little of what's on here. I guess this is a good thing as it's more to discover.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:21 (fourteen years ago)

love you long time - military tattoos & insane vocal arrangement, one of the most euphoric r&b songs i've heard
luv back - repurposing the "hold yuh" riddim and flipping the neediness of the album's title into a demand for liberation
don't make me wait - amazing prince pastiche - "just play my favourite song, i'll get my vanity 6 on" - jazmine so much more relaxed and playful than i've head her before
redemption - spoken word narrative verses, massive gospel chorus. the dude lipsyncing is...amusing, too.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:24 (fourteen years ago)

I do really like the Jazmine album and did vote for it but I love her first album so much more. There aren't any songs that really stood out like Lions, Tigers & Bears or In Love With Another Man on Fearless.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:25 (fourteen years ago)

good album, i need to listen to it more

This and this. I certainly voted for it but feel like me and this album still have growing-together left to do.

Tim F, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:25 (fourteen years ago)

It's another one I haven't heard (of)....

haha i've been going on & on & on about jazmine for the past few months, and i'm sure i've done it to YOU - she came up as a comparison point in the janelle monáe thread a lot. my argument was, and is, that janelle getting props for "genre-busting" and "ambition" is nonsense when someone like jazmine, who actually covers a much vaster stylistic range, doesn't get those same props

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:27 (fourteen years ago)

I certainly voted for it but feel like me and this album still have growing-together left to do.

like the r. kelly, it only came out a matter of WEEKS ago, so for it to place here is seriously impressive imo.

i definitely prefer it to her debut, which i loved and has several classic joints on it, but love me back just feels way more relaxed and not as overbearing.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:28 (fourteen years ago)

gave "love you a long time" a chance...cool call and response chorus I guess her voice is surprisingly thin. And the hook is worse than the best 5 or 6 tracks on Janelle Monae.

skip, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:28 (fourteen years ago)

Does anyone actually read it when ilxor or jaymc do detailed breakdown of what albums they have heard and haven't heard or are those posts like the "Revolution No. 9" of ILX

This is like the first time I've ever done this, Whiney. Also was drunk on wine last night and didn't really care if ppl read the post or not.

Tyler/Perry's "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:30 (fourteen years ago)

Getting v behind here so just going to chat to myself about shit that placed miles upthread.

The ikonika album is interesting enough but this - I want my melodies to speak. They’re simple, polite and to the point…I guess they're from my attraction to Pop and R&B hooks - highlights these weak melodies. The record has a neat sound palette but the percussion has moments where it builds up a lot of momentum which the bland tunes can't sustain, so she just cycles through them trying to dazzle you by deploying new timbres. Maybe she should collaborate w/ someone.

ogmor, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

will def check this out, lex. now you come to mention I do remember you repping for this now.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv9BwFj_MI/AAAAAAAAAY8/We-EJrJSNhw/titusandronicus.jpg

38. TITUS ANDRONICUS — The Monitor (410 points, 15 votes, 4 first place votes)
P&J: 12th
Pitchfork: 10th
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

too low but bet there are loads of haters

Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:33 (fourteen years ago)

Does he still sing like Cartman on this one?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:33 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, way too low -- that was my #1 obv

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:33 (fourteen years ago)

ilxor at least seemed to have heard more than 10% of the albums

I heard 8/37 = 22%.

Anyway, sorry for wanting to ENGAGE.

Tyler/Perry's "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:34 (fourteen years ago)

it had the best guitar solos of the year, so that was enough for me

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:34 (fourteen years ago)

hey it's the other album I voted for

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:34 (fourteen years ago)

Titus Andronicus seems like a band that Tom Breihan would like. Does he?

Tyler/Perry's "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

not heard them. Should I?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

i couldn't be bothered with them at all until I moved to the US/Virginia. but I adore it now. my number 2.

Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

haha aw sorry jaymc - please, engage away! but quite a lot of the post seemed to be doing the opposite of that - 'didn't hear this, w/e' :P

the monitor is a pretty heroic rallying-cry, and features plenty of awesomeness. its sound is just so vast and bracing, and ever so slightly ragged (which makes it even better)

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

definitely a hater on this one but I understand why other people like it. Enjoy away.

skip, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

The record has a neat sound palette but the percussion has moments where it builds up a lot of momentum which the bland tunes can't sustain, so she just cycles through them trying to dazzle you by deploying new timbres

i thought the tinny limited melodies were speaking to the 8-bit inspiration for this stuff? like theres a bunch of shifts on 'simulacrum' that are like NEXT STAGE but they *point* isn`t to build to the typical release but to flow & sustain. just like the limited, scrolling tempo of an old videogame track

Lamp, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

Titus Andronicus seems like a band that Tom Breihan would like. Does he?

― Tyler/Perry's "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" (jaymc), Wednesday, February 2, 2011 11:35 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

lol yes

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:37 (fourteen years ago)

the monitor is a pretty heroic rallying-cry, and features plenty of awesomeness. its sound is just so vast and bracing, and ever so slightly ragged (which makes it even better)

― acoleuthic, Wednesday, February 2, 2011 11:36 AM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark

jagger otm

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:37 (fourteen years ago)

if you listen to one track, make that track 'four score and seven'. then listen to the 14-minute closer. you know you want tooooo

listening to JAZMINE atm, sounds not bad!

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:37 (fourteen years ago)

ohhhh titus andronicus are the ones who make really sub-arcade fire bluster and have a singer with the most awful empty faux-desperation in his voice right? ugh

*hates*

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:38 (fourteen years ago)

i understand the other half but sub-arcade fire bluster?

Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

titus andronicus are the ones who make really sub-arcade fire bluster and have a singer with the most awful empty faux-desperation in his voice right? ugh

Amazing how many descriptors you packed into this one sentence and still managed to get none of them to be true.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

It's going to take me forever to wade through these albums. So far there has been one (Crystal Castles) that I've heard from beginning to end.

I'm obviously completely out of the loop when it comes to new music.

Moodles, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

they don't sound anything liiiiike the arcade fire, for a start they're way more gritty and their songs are more immersive - the arcade fire are very polite in comparison

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

here's a post i wrote in the titus thread comparing the album to the arcade fire album

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the tone of each album is different in an important way

like, to me, 'the suburbs' vacillates b/w really infantile songs about "the kids" & this kinda gross, almost elitist misanthropy about suburban life that just rubs me the wrong way, esp coming from grown 30 year olds

'the monitor' is an album that uses suburban life as a frame for a very thorough and oftentimes lacerating -- yet inspiring! -- look at one dude's life, and at times the lives of people his age -- it's a much more honest album imo

also there are no 8+ songs on the suburbs

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J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

Haven't heard the Titus Andronicus, kind of looks like a Big Country album.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

i just looked up my old jukebox review of TA

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

Wow, 4 first place votes and only number 38

Parenthetical Grillz, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

I'm assuming the missing link between Titus Andronicus and the Arcade Fire is Springsteen? I definitely got a Boss vibe off the previous album, not a very good one admittedly.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

iirc I had a lot of time for the Jazmine tracks that Lex linked to in his r'n'b piece on the Quietus, also that sleeve kind of rules

Rogaine's a hell of a rug (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

I suppose if you lump all guitar-focused indie rock into one giant bowl of awful empty shit then Titus Andronicus sounds like Arcade Fire.

skip, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

Jordan OTM. I really like the Arcade Fire album (another that I couldn't be bothered with until I moved) but the Titus album feels like the antithesis to The Suburbs. It's all impotent, but inspiring, rage.

Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

titus andronicus : lil b :: the arcade fire : kanye

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

i had a going away party for a friend who was moving to chile at my house early last summer where, nearly blind drunk, my friend & i & this waitress we had just met sang and pogoed and shouted along to the entirety of 'battle of hampton roads' incl THE FUCKING BAGPIPES (we did our best) & it was some of the best 14 or so minutes of my summer

Lamp, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

i can imagine this album is perfect for situations like that. also I'll bet the live show is amazing assuming the audience is really into it.

Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

I may have voted TA but it's not all bad though lex; Jazmine is awes!

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

rofl louis

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

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37. THESE NEW PURITANS — Hidden (414 points, 13 votes)
P&J: 214th
Pitchfork: DNP

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

excellent start to today

oooh!

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

Only heard 'A More Perfect Union' off that TA record, liked it a lot, will cue up the rest.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

jazmine is indeed awes :)

i don't usually like my own work but i was quite proud of the review i did of her album - http://thequietus.com/articles/05490-jazmine-sullivan-love-me-back-review

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

This is like the first time I've ever done this, Whiney. Also was drunk on wine last night and didn't really care if ppl read the post or not.

this is kinda key w/ any sort of long ilx posts. if you wanna read my breakdown of what i liked and didn't from a selection of ilm's fav albums of 2010, read away. if not, then skip over it -- or zing me, whatever.

btw-- LOVE Hidden, voted for it i think. jazmine & we love are both on my "to buy soon" lists. don't care for titus, but more of a *shrug* than finding them actively boring or offensive. i get why ppl rate it, though.

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

xps - "The Monitor" has the highest number of #1 votes in the poll, despite coming 38th.

I'm not commenting much because I haven't heard anything that has shown up so far today! I'm listening to We Love at the moment...I agree with LJ that this is prime ILMbait right down to the Knifey processed vox. First listen is very enjoyable, lots of nice details.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

i thought the tinny limited melodies were speaking to the 8-bit inspiration for this stuff? like theres a bunch of shifts on 'simulacrum' that are like NEXT STAGE but they *point* isn`t to build to the typical release but to flow & sustain. just like the limited, scrolling tempo of an old videogame track

A lot of old game music has much stronger melodies than this tho, enhanced by the feeling of them being trapped in these feeble synths. I think generally the album is too restless&busy to flow&sustain much; the percussion is often p irregular & when it's more banging the little tunes seem really incongruous. I think Psoriasis works well tho.

ogmor, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:45 (fourteen years ago)

I have extremely mixed feelings about 'Hidden'. Didn't vote for it but my god are the highs high. And by the highs I mean We Want War (and maybe '5')

'GOOD ENOUGH' is EPIC!! :DDDDDD

and it's a teeny bit better than the Dodgy song of that name ;)

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:45 (fourteen years ago)

I've heard so much about TNP, and listened to a few tracks over the weekend. I'm on the fence at the moment. Kind of like the Swans' album gone electronica, or am I miles off?

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:46 (fourteen years ago)

a friend of mine really repping for These New Puritans, but I gave it a listen and didn't get into it at all. keep trying?

Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:46 (fourteen years ago)

Oh boy, that's too low.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:46 (fourteen years ago)

kinda like a rly dark postpunk band found some military drums and horns, then decided to approximate trip-hop

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:46 (fourteen years ago)

two very dramatic albums in a row - if you like one you're probably going to like the other.

skip, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:47 (fourteen years ago)

I'd say the rhythms are more dancehall than trip-hop.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:48 (fourteen years ago)

Yes it's been bigged up by people I knwo who have impeccable taste, but parts of it seemed, I dunno, a bit tacky? no that's not the right word... I don't know what the right word is, but it reminds me of the dying days of IDM when people were trying to fiddle faddle with rock+electronica and it wasn't working properly. I will persevere though.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:48 (fourteen years ago)

what in the hell is up with the arcade fire comparisons to titus andronicus? at least grady was transparently trolling

would have been my number 2 probably

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:48 (fourteen years ago)

lol

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:49 (fourteen years ago)

many xps Listening to 'We Love' now. First few tracks were enjoyable but not immediately noteworthy, but as mentioned upthread it does build momentum and when it arrived at 'Even If' I was won over and it is just getting better from there imo.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:49 (fourteen years ago)

Re Ikonika: I kind of agree with the criticisms, even though I did vote for it. It's a good album, but it could have been much better. My favourite Ikonika track is still "Please", which was the first thing I ever heard from her.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:49 (fourteen years ago)

'Please' is pretty much the only Ikonika track I don't like (and found actively annoying at first)

idgi fridays (blueski), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:50 (fourteen years ago)

THESE NEW PURITANS — what a terrible, terrible name

zvookster, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:50 (fourteen years ago)

I'd say the rhythms are more dancehall than trip-hop.

― seminal fuiud (NickB), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:48 (35 seconds ago)

actually yeah, it's much more aggro than most trip-hop (although the second half of Mezzanine is what I was shooting for...)

zvookster don't make me link the song they're named after

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:50 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah I avoided them for ages on name alone.

Tim F, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

jazmine record would've been on my ballot too - think lex linked "don't make me wait", which is my favorite on that - she's in such great control of her voice and it's just a classic post-"yamaha" LOS joint

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

Jazmine has tuuuuuuunes btw

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

I'm probably coming off too negative on ikonika, maybe just trying to retrospectively justify my decision not to vote for it.

Rangda are a really amazing project & the songs on False Flag are likewise fantastic but for some reason - recording quality, not road-testing the songs enough before recording, w/e - the album doesn't do them justice.

ogmor, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

'GOOD ENOUGH' is EPIC!! :DDDDDD

is this re: the jazmine song, or do these new puritans also have a song titled this?!

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

obv the jazmine :P

love the comments below lex's review. that dude is an opprobrium magnet, nevah change

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:52 (fourteen years ago)

I suppose the rhythms on the These New Puritans album are inspired by dancehall to an extent but the treatment of them is so much more militaristic, big walls of angry-sounding drums. They lack the fun, synthetic bounce you get in dancehall.

I think what makes that album great is the band's ability to arrange and write for so many instruments. Yeah I know there are a load of bands throughout the years who have had string or horn arrangements but not very many who have been inspired by Benjamin Britten and have managed to translate that to their own music.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:52 (fourteen years ago)

THESE NEW PURITANS — what a terrible, terrible name

― zvookster, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:50 (53 seconds ago) Bookmark

OTM. It sounds like some greebo band from '92, like the Levellers or something.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:52 (fourteen years ago)

blindly buying on iTunes now based on descriptors/ILM love. fuck y'all if its balls tho.

Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:52 (fourteen years ago)

classic post-"yamaha" LOS joint

^^referring to the #4 song on the singles countdown btw

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:52 (fourteen years ago)

These New Puritans - We Want War
These New Puritans - Hologram
These New Puritans - Attack Music

seminal fuiud (NickB), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

get the feeling the NME gave These New Puritans number 1 position because of the name tbh

Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

I kind of agree with the criticisms, even though I did vote for it. It's a good album, but it could have been much better.

+1. i can see ogmor's points, & agree that its limited but i like the aesthetic and ~sonic palette~ enough to forgive its limitations

these new puritans are the 1st thing since zola jesus ive really actively disliked

Lamp, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

everything ppl say about these new puritans makes them sound atrocious

ogmor, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

louis loving jazmine is kinda random to me but i'm happy for it!

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

classic post-"yamaha" LOS joint

lol this is such an absurd statement

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

I know it's just how things happen, when one album takes off and another really should have, but the first TNP album is SO much better than Hidden.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

how many songs has he done "post-'yamaha'"? 2?

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

Gukbe - if you've bought 'Hidden' I feel duty bound to point out that no one has mentioned the vocals yet, they are particularly amateurish, although the music does a good job of cushioning that and distracting from it.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

nice to see Titus place but now bumming that probably Gaslight won't

Mordy, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

lol this is such an absurd statement

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, February 2, 2011 11:53 AM (59 seconds ago)

i'm just saying it sounds like it?

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:55 (fourteen years ago)

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36. AGALLOCH — Marrow of the Spirit (420 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote)
P&J: 48th
Pitchfork: DNP

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:55 (fourteen years ago)

mordy otm

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:55 (fourteen years ago)

hahaha this is the best run of the poll so far :D

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:55 (fourteen years ago)

metal?

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:55 (fourteen years ago)

again, didn't vote, but could have, like all the albums so far today aside from the one I *did* vote

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:56 (fourteen years ago)

EPIC metal. last two tracks are completely unnecessary but them aside there's a good 45 minutes of great music

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:56 (fourteen years ago)

if you've bought 'Hidden'

It was We Love I bought, but thanks for the heads-up. I just gave We Want War another listen and had forgotten about the vocals.

Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

I heard a track from that Agalloch album and it was much floatier and more melodic than I'd expected and I really liked it but the croaky goblin vocals put me off a bit, are they like that across the whole album?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

no one has mentioned the vocals yet, they are particularly amateurish, although the music does a good job of cushioning that and distracting from it.

ha i was about to say i feel like i might like these new puritans if it wasn't for the awful vocals! bad vocals don't always bother me, but here, it seems to actively get in the way of me liking the music.

Roz, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

I think what makes that album great is the band's ability to arrange and write for so many instruments. Yeah I know there are a load of bands throughout the years who have had string or horn arrangements but not very many who have been inspired by Benjamin Britten and have managed to translate that to their own music.

One thing that struck me about it is that it sounds like they've drawn on extremely diverse but very specific influences. It's like a reading from a spectrograph where you get a few really defined widely-spaced peaks and the rest is just black.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

That's a great metaphor for them Nick.

Tim F, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

Matt, there are lots of instrumental passages but this album is noticeably growlier than their previous ones. I'd start elsewhere if cookie-monster ain't yr thing

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

ya not feelin these new puritans at all

flopson, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

also yeah Nick otm, there's a real asceticism to TNP

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

I often wonder why there isn't more purely instrumental metal.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

I often wonder why there isn't more purely instrumental metal.

There's loads of it actually. And it's not all post-metal like Pelican

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:01 (fourteen years ago)

Pelican - the world's most pointless band.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:02 (fourteen years ago)

there's a real asceticism to TNP

yeah i def got this vibe from the track that placed. the vox are the stumbling point for me tho - it reminds me of something like latter-day scott walker, maybe, except his voice forces you to take it DEADLY SERIOUSLY, and TNP dude's...doesn't

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:02 (fourteen years ago)

Pelican - the world's most pointless band.

Bit unfair. The 1st ep was wonderful and the first couple of albums were really good but they got less heavier as time went on. didnt even hear the 2010 album on Southern Lord

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:03 (fourteen years ago)

He sings a lot like 3D except 3D learned to treat his vocals as soon as he stopped rapping and TNP dude hasn't.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:03 (fourteen years ago)

I have the feeling that TNP's *next* album will be the one I really like. For a start, the singer has sworn never to sing again, pretty much.

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

jazmine record would've been on my ballot too - think lex linked "don't make me wait", which is my favorite on that - she's in such great control of her voice and it's just a classic post-"yamaha" LOS joint

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lol @ "post-yahama". dude you better own every 80s Prince album.

some dude, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

xp AG - I had a feeling that might be the answer...I did like that Cuzo album that was in the Metal Poll,.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

Re TNP, I'm surprised I don't read more The Bug comparisons.

Tim F, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

Re TNP, I'm surprised I don't read more The Bug comparisons.

morelike The BUTT comparisons

Lamp, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

Anyway, back to Agalloch! EXCELLENT SONG

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

AG - Yeah, I see why people like Pelican, but for me it's just riffs. I kind of see why people like to hear riff-y instrumental rock music, but you could just take the bass fuzz and the vocals out of a Kyuss or Torche album, and that would be Pelican more or less.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:06 (fourteen years ago)

Instrumental Metal, tho much more popular, isn't really going to sell loads tho, but in the wake of Pelican, more did appear. But they seem to be a real hated band now. they suffered the most from the anti-hipster metal backlash.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:06 (fourteen years ago)

Nick, I like you putting up these accompanying youtubes; it's helpful.

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:06 (fourteen years ago)

Actually, the last track on the Agalloch record is pretty good, but it's cut off from the rest by a slightly substandard penultimate one IMO - the rest is definitely worth digging up, especially the 17-minute monster

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:07 (fourteen years ago)

lj links a song and it's ELEVEN minutes long!! Just kidding. Listening now.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:08 (fourteen years ago)

...and the penultimate one will probably grow on me haha

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:08 (fourteen years ago)

agalloch album is great

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:08 (fourteen years ago)

Other thing about TNP is their music seems really strongly connected to place in a way that most indie rock just doesn't. Makes me think of derelict brown-field sites, murky estuarial mudflats, that sort of thing. And the way that these esoteric historical references keep cropping up too... whole thing reminds me a lot of those passages in Riddley Walker where they're digging in the mud and finding weird bits of junk from the past.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:08 (fourteen years ago)

think i placed agalloch top 5 on my metal poll ballot; should've boosted it here

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:09 (fourteen years ago)

an ilxor guests on a track on the Agalloch btw

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:09 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTvy6v-OzLI/AAAAAAAAATU/icDhUxj-2XA/ciara.jpg

35. CIARA — Basic Instinct (438 points, 14 votes, 3 first place votes)
P&J: 765th
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:09 (fourteen years ago)

^^ v underrated album, i love it

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

love how we're veering between ragged noisy guitar stuff and Lexbait

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

wow @ three #1s

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

If it wasn't for the mid-paced slump 2/3rds of the way through that album would've been top five for me, I think.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

whooohooo agalloch!

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

love how we're veering between ragged noisy guitar stuff LJbait and Lexbait

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

Other thing about TNP is their music seems really strongly connected to place in a way that most indie rock just doesn't. Makes me think of derelict brown-field sites, murky estuarial mudflats, that sort of thing. And the way that these esoteric historical references keep cropping up too... whole thing reminds me a lot of those passages in Riddley Walker where they're digging in the mud and finding weird bits of junk from the past.

― seminal fuiud (NickB), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:08 (3 seconds ago) Bookmark

Don't know if it's their name, or something about the singing/lyrics, but I do get a sort of crusty/anti-establishment/90s Britishers vibe about it. Electronics aside, it sounds like the kind of music I'd associate with those Volume magazine/compilations you used to get.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

feel like Lex has insinuated himself more into the ILM Long Player canon this year more than he has previously

Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

haha wow i DEFINITELY didn't expect this to place, and i certainly didn't expect two other people to give it #1s! i am THRILLED.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

i dunno, the lex was pretty much the hivemind on last years poll

xp ha

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:12 (fourteen years ago)

Did you really not expect it to place in the top 77? Would've thought it was nailed on.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:12 (fourteen years ago)

I love the Hongroesque way of defining the hivemind as "everything that isn't the stuff I like".

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:13 (fourteen years ago)

If they were trve kvlt LJbait I'd have given more than one of them a vote (and a low-ish one at that) :P

Jazmine Sullivan is the discovery of the day fwiw

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:13 (fourteen years ago)

SO FAR

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:13 (fourteen years ago)

Jazmine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ciara

some dude, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

ehhh not quite

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

Liked that Agalloch track you linked LJ, once I got *ahem* used to the singing, didn't bother me after 2 or 3 minutes and I was able to go with it.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:17 (fourteen years ago)

half the songs on that ciara are hard for me to get thru personally. i do like some of them though

*kl0p* (deej), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:17 (fourteen years ago)

ciara picks:

wants for dinner - def my favourite track on the album, this amazing lilting, mocking reggae-tinged smackdown of a rival. "you can entertain him all day long, but i'm what he wants for dinner"
gimmie dat (the "ride" video got all the attention but this is just as O_O when it comes to what she does with her body, just not as streetwalkery)
yeah i know - minimalistic stripper-in-my-mind banger; the way the beat goes nuts in the last minute is amazing
i run it - clouds of gorgeous feeling, this is the closing ballad. love the drifting sax throughout

should've made the album: blauw, which features the most O_O cock-as-gun metaphors i've heard in time. "shoot that, imma shoot back" vs "i wanna see the gun, can you put me on the run?" vs "better work it like you're s'posed ta if i take it out this holsta" <4 <4

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:17 (fourteen years ago)

Agalloch record is awesome.

Many xps...

I heard a track from that Agalloch album and it was much floatier and more melodic than I'd expected and I really liked it but the croaky goblin vocals put me off a bit, are they like that across the whole album?

These are front-loaded in the album, they drop off towards the end. I had a problem with them to begin with too, but you sort of get used to them, and they add to the atmosphere of the record.

Neil S, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:18 (fourteen years ago)

Did you really not expect it to place in the top 77? Would've thought it was nailed on.

it was released 6 weeks ago! if it had been released a few months earlier yeah, but i definitely didn't think ciara/jazmine/r. kelly would have enough momentum behind them. then again i do expect diddy to go top 10, so...

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:19 (fourteen years ago)

so, uh...

WE LOVE - very much enjoy the sound, and yes as lex says, it's music to suit a fashion show (or a well-designed hair studio). not a bad thing, and i do like the sound, stylish and sleek, but it's all a bit airy for my taste. MattDC compares them to the xx, and i hear a bit of the knife, but i enjoy those bands for the way they focus a similar vibe and sound palette on pop strategies. we love doesn't work quite as well in that context, they're more about mood, beat and forward movement.

JAZMINE SULLIVAN - wow. some of the best 2010 R&B i've heard (not that i've heard a lot), shame i'm only catching up with it now. if the whole album is anywhere near as good as the four tracks lex posted, i'd have made my better-informed list. prefer "love you long time" to anything on the janelle monáe album, lex OTM on that score. will definitely pick this up.

TITUS ANDRONICUS - tried hard with this band/album, but just don't get it. i've got some kind of mental barrier set against nu-springsteen/'mats indie-punk, no matter who's delivering it. guitar ripping and band interplay are cool as hell, but i don't like the songwriting or the singer. "titus andronicus forever" is good stupid fun though, i can get behind that.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:19 (fourteen years ago)

Liked that Agalloch track you linked LJ, once I got *ahem* used to the singing, didn't bother me after 2 or 3 minutes and I was able to go with it.

Awesome! Well, I'll link another one then, the best track on the album. In two parts. Listen to 'To Drown' as well, the aforementioned post-rocky final track, if you want a fix of instrumental bliss.

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:20 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, bad timing of the Ciara record for this poll. I wish I had heard it by the time I sent in my ballot. It would have been high on my list!

Dan S, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:20 (fourteen years ago)

I like Ciara! It just felt like Trax were always the territory of the lex while albums tended to be more indie canon/niche xposts

Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:20 (fourteen years ago)

"i'd have made my better-informed list" = "it would have made a better-informed version of my list."

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:20 (fourteen years ago)

haha Basic Instinct was being blasted out upstairs at Fopp Cambridge Circus last night. <-- unprecedented

before that the dude was playing a spoken word record of somebody reading aloud Das Kapital or something like that

obviously a dangerous free thinker who needs more training ;)

Jeff W, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:21 (fourteen years ago)

Here's that Agalloch song all in one piece for the picky

now to listen to some Ciara...

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:21 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTvzpyI92VI/AAAAAAAAAUA/2vFiNQH1IWc/flyinglotus.jpg

34. FLYING LOTUS — Cosmogramma (462 points, 17 votes)
P&J: 19th
Pitchfork: 14th

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:22 (fourteen years ago)

ciara has some real good tracks on it -- was in the 12-15 range for me i think

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:24 (fourteen years ago)

Cosmogramma is yet another resident of my "things to check out soon" list.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:24 (fourteen years ago)

TOO LOW

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:24 (fourteen years ago)

then again i do expect diddy to go top 10, so...

he'll be up there but maybe not quite top ten -- thinking 11-20 range

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:25 (fourteen years ago)

xxxp
I haven't really got into the Ciara yet myself. It's certainly not an instant a hit as Fantasy Ride was. I do need to hunt down all the 2010 leaks and lost tracks that didn't make the LP though.

Jeff W, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:25 (fourteen years ago)

i've just never understood the appeal of flying lotus. always far too cluttered, random in a horrible way. it sounds like it thinks it's cleverer than it really is. People associate it with dubstep; I just hear bad early-2000s IDM.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:26 (fourteen years ago)

Some great sections on that FlyLo album, but all the skipping around did my head in a bit.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:27 (fourteen years ago)


I haven't really got into the Ciara yet myself. It's certainly not an instant a hit as Fantasy Ride was. I do need to hunt down all the 2010 leaks and lost tracks that didn't make the LP though.

"blauw", "get it girl", "shut em up", "one more dance" and "i'm up in the bank" are the picks of these; also u&k is her remix of chris brown's "deuces"* as well as the nguzunguzu and drew austin remixes of that (yeah, unofficial remixes of an unofficial remix - i love 2010), as well as her remixes of soulja boy's "pretty girl swag" and WAKA's "hard in da paint". i freely admit that i factored all of these into my #1 placing for it.

*"you'll never find another girl / who'll love you like C, touch you like C / too bad that you couldn't even C..." </3 </3 heartbreaking

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

now that i've picked up on jazz in general (for those unaware: Rolling 2011 thread where I buy and listen to jazz albums for the first time ever) i love the flying lotus album even more: it's really clear that he's drawing on all sorts of jazz for his "cluttered, random" approach

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

Cosmogramma begins as a total mess (could really lose that second track) and then becomes hugely compelling, there's just so much texture and detail and loveliness in there, it's the soundtracky elements that really glue the whole thing together.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

it sounds like it thinks it's cleverer than it really is...I just hear bad early-2000s IDM.

I kinda share this opinion, but it's based on old information. I haven't heard Cosmogramma yet.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

I think if I had to compare Flying Lotus to anyone it'd be Amon Tobin cira Supermodified. Not sure if that fits in with Doglatin's tag at all.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:29 (fourteen years ago)

ilxor, he is majorly into Alice Coltrane, you should check her next

seminal fuiud (NickB), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:29 (fourteen years ago)

She's his great aunt or something right?

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:30 (fourteen years ago)

Going back a bit...

We Love: never heard of this! My interest definitely piqued by Lex and Matt upthread. Will investigate forthwith.

Jazmine: I still have major issues with her voice. But for that, the album would be in my top 3 easy though. Such great songwriting.

Jeff W, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:31 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah I think there is a family connection now you mention it. xp

seminal fuiud (NickB), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:31 (fourteen years ago)

first time i listened to cosmogramma: ¯\(°_o)/¯ - "idgi"

third time i listened to cosmogramma: o_O - "weiiird"

sixth time i listened to cosmogramma: ^____^ - "oh cool i see what u did there"

tenth & beyond times i listened to cosmogramma: O_O - "OMFG!!!!!!!"

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

Could someone describe/link some Flying Lotus?

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

ilxor, he is majorly into Alice Coltrane, you should check her next

Oh believe me I've heard her now-- will get to that soon enough in the jazz thread!

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:33 (fourteen years ago)

cosmogramma trax:

mmmhmm
computer face/pure being
recoiled
untitled 7 min. mashup of various tracks (good overview/sampler)

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:35 (fourteen years ago)

cosmogramma is kind of a mess

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:36 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTvzGsG8KvI/AAAAAAAAATs/mAZ7ITRDBf0/earlsweatshirt.jpg

33. EARL SWEATSHIRT — Earl (474 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote)
P&J: 146th
Pitchfork: DNP

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:36 (fourteen years ago)

Really tried to like These New Puritans but like Lex, I struggle to get past the guys voice. Props for their ambition though, another vocalist and it would have been a cert for my ballot.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:36 (fourteen years ago)

flying lotus also put on my fav live show of 2010, f'ing incredible

video here- doesnt do it justice imo

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:37 (fourteen years ago)

earl is the best

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:37 (fourteen years ago)

^^

tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:37 (fourteen years ago)

epaR

earl on some dope cop killing story telling shit

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:38 (fourteen years ago)

i downloaded earl the other day and am gonna put the rapey faggoty schtick out of my mind and give it a try - i really like the track "earl"

might give flylo a try too, though in several years he's never clicked w/me

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:39 (fourteen years ago)

not feelin' the earl/tyler love-- pretty much share lex's view on these fellas

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:39 (fourteen years ago)

specifically, the "rapey faggoty schtick" puts me way off

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:39 (fourteen years ago)

now pan the cameras back to me and pamela's
amateur threesome with hannah monatana's manager
and miley feeding me sandwiches for my stamina

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:40 (fourteen years ago)

^ this xp

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:40 (fourteen years ago)

epaR was in my top 10 trax, maybe top 5

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:42 (fourteen years ago)

kinda like my issue w/ burzum's worldviews, or any sort of grotesque/prejudiced lyrics -- like, i could probably get over this stuff and enjoy the music on its own merits if i really tried, but there's too much other great stuff out there waiting to be heard that it's not really worth my time

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:43 (fourteen years ago)

Happy to see Agalloch place! I wasn't sure when Electric Wizard showed up if another metal record would place higher. So I think one more on my ballot has a chance; I might hit 3 in total!

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:43 (fourteen years ago)

ilxor, earl's worldview is trolling, it's something you should identify with

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

hahaha

tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, he's obviously trolling, but...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...oh whut? Did I nod off?

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

ilxor, earl's worldview is trolling, it's something you should identify with

lol ^____________________________^

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:46 (fourteen years ago)

I think if I had to compare Flying Lotus to anyone it'd be Amon Tobin cira Supermodified.

this is OTM. I finally got around to really digging into this album recently, and it reminds me most of Amon Tobin - including the hit to miss ratio on this album. The first two tracks are kind of hard to get through, and then there are a stretch of tracks that almost physically compel me to hit the stop button, starting with "Satelllliiiiiiiteee", which sucks because it comes right after my favorite on the album.

it sounds like it thinks it's cleverer than it really is.

care to explain this criticism? having a hard time figuring out what you might mean by it.

rockapads, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:46 (fourteen years ago)

i still take issue with some of it but whatever... don't see how anyone can't appreciate this kid's raw talent xxp

tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:47 (fourteen years ago)

Ciara record is OK if not mindblowing. May return to it later. I've listened to a few of the tracks and not been turned off though so it gets a cautious pass. Production is nicely chintzy.

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:49 (fourteen years ago)

blade has some of my fave earl shit
pigeon is str8 up

Prom Dressantino 2011 (Lamp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:49 (fourteen years ago)

my fav earl verse from last year

tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

yeah that verse is crazy

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

"rapey faggoty schtick"

someone care to elaborate?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:52 (fourteen years ago)

think eminem circa 1999 but updated for kids nowadays

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:53 (fourteen years ago)

oh my word

oh my WORD

guess what is UTTER LJBAIT

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:53 (fourteen years ago)

Today's list so far has been INSANELY good.

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:54 (fourteen years ago)

I mean, seriously, I hate rapey faggoty shtick, and I generally don't like rap music at all, but the way he delivers "fat black bitches and catfish" is sort of A+

vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:54 (fourteen years ago)

I'm too old for the odd future shit. I like some of the production, and most of them seem to have flow, but what's the point if I can't listen to it on speakers without horrifying everyone around me who doesn't read about their backstory on the internet?

rockapads, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:54 (fourteen years ago)

sometimes i feel like Burzum exists purely to be used as an example or conversation point in ILM threads

some dude, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

sometimes i feel like Burzum ofwgkta's schtick exists purely to be used as an example or conversation point in ILM threads

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

I would guess that LJ is currently jizzing himself over Flying Lotus?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

I have to sit there listening to it on headphones, nodding my head to the beat, going "i like it when they talk about rapin' huh huh".

rockapads, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:56 (fourteen years ago)

i jus realized that this spelles rape backwards haha

PIGMASKVSJIGSAW 4 days ago 7

rockapads, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

listening to Earl Sweatshirt is like reading that list of sex acts that includes the donkey punch, cleveland steamer etc. of course no one has actually done that shit, but the least likely of all are the nerds who thought them up. pathetic.

skip, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

Yep! xps

Reckon I'll dig Earl too, as long as I can mentally distance their lyrics from what they actually behave like IRL

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

I would guess that LJ is currently jizzing himself over Flying Lotus?

Seems inevitable in retrospect.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:58 (fourteen years ago)

it's weird that i'm even a bit put off b/c, y'know, long time hip-hop and dancehall fan. i guess it's partly cuz it seems so culty from the outside - like you have to be AWED by ofwgkta's MINDBLOWING TALENT and there doesn't seem to be much grey area? and it's not like eminem '99, who was front & centre in pop culture - i kind of have to seek OF out. and i'm really really not interested in little boys trying to shock people with how gross they can be, scatologically or morally.

tbh it's the harsh, grindy beats that are attracting me most, and that actually moved me to d/l the album, rather than them particularly.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTvynWULi8I/AAAAAAAAAS4/Quv-8NJf3SQ/arcadefire.jpg

32. ARCADE FIRE — The Suburbs (478 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote)
P&J: 3rd
Pitchfork: 11th

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

It's not, like, *utterly* astounding (yet) but it IS very, very, very good and has enormous depth, loads of sonic webs for me to dive into and explore :)

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

beating titus is :-(

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:00 (fourteen years ago)

and yes I was obviously talking about Arcade Fire. viva win butler.

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:00 (fourteen years ago)

ha, from the trax poll i'd resigned myself to the arcade fire being a shoe-in for the top 10. happy to see it's not!

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:00 (fourteen years ago)

I dunno why you'd think. Most people were like "Sprawl II is great, but I don't like the album."

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:01 (fourteen years ago)

(I actually DO like the album, though.)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:02 (fourteen years ago)

it's almost as if lex wasn't exactly plugged into what arcade fire fans actually thought of the album

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:02 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, Lex. The general vibe on Sprawl II among lolindie fans is that it was the best track on a decent but not great album. The high placing of the track was when I was pretty sure that The Suburbs wouldn't place that high.

Alex in Montreal, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:02 (fourteen years ago)

(But I am really loving "We Love" so far. THERE IS SO MUCH I HAVE NOT HEARD. Wish I had time to check it all out. Slowly I'm going to be working my way through a lot of music this month.)

Alex in Montreal, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:03 (fourteen years ago)

whose #1 was AF?

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:04 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, Lex. The general vibe on Sprawl II among lolindie fans is that it was the best track on a decent but not great album.

THAT was the highlight track on an album that's otherwise substantially worse?!

:o

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:04 (fourteen years ago)

and i'm really really not interested in little boys trying to shock people with how gross they can be, scatologically or morally.

well said. and, no trolling intended, but I feel like I sort of got my noisy hip hop fix with Cannibal Ox 10 years ago. they do have a few standout songs that I still listen to from time to time, though. Just can't immerse myself in the shit without feeling like a creep, or something.

rockapads, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:04 (fourteen years ago)

Nina Nastasia isn't going to place is she :(

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:05 (fourteen years ago)

speaking as someone who thinks the first two AF albums do the "epic indie" thing well, i thought this album was dullsville. "sprawl 2" is good tho

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:05 (fourteen years ago)

THAT was the highlight track on an album that's otherwise substantially worse?!

imo, it wasn't. But I'm not a great case study on Arcade Fire.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:05 (fourteen years ago)

Nina Nastasia isn't going to place is she :(

i was way more hopeful about her to start with than about ciara, we love or jazmine - it seemed the people in her thread REALLY loved her

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:06 (fourteen years ago)

yeah I can only listen to Earl in the car, not with friends

Dan S, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:06 (fourteen years ago)

xxxp Not substantially worse! The album in general is a bit more standard rock/folk. More subdued, more cohesive/of a piece. Sprawl II stands out for being dancier, a little bit Blondie/disco, only track to have Regine on vocals. I mean, you'd just lump it all together, probably, but it's just the track that *stands apart* from an album that is otherwise very much an *album*.

Alex in Montreal, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:06 (fourteen years ago)

totally fair response imo rockapads

tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:06 (fourteen years ago)

Oh Arcade Fire, you had to come along and ruin this run of albums! Haha

might listen to Earl now. Cosmogramma is *definitely* being returned to.

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:07 (fourteen years ago)

LJ, if you like cosmogramma plz also seek out the Lotus back catalog, incl. previous album Los Angeles, which is a bit less jazz influenced, more J Dilla. haven't heard 1983 yet (his first album) but i hear it's also great.

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:08 (fourteen years ago)

Nina Nastasia isn't going to place is she :(

Maybe she doesn't have a "rapey faggoty schtick" for ilxors to vote for

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:10 (fourteen years ago)

maybe

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:11 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv0Xh1YvzI/AAAAAAAAAUY/kEhNw9PbJ_A/guido.jpg

31. GUIDO — Anidea (480 points, 17 votes)
P&J: 666th
Pitchfork: DNP

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:12 (fourteen years ago)

without listening to that I know it's a Tim F houseathon lol

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:12 (fourteen years ago)

Really loved the AF album, and I think it's their best one. It's the flipside to Titus re: it is huge melodrama as viewed through nostalgia (as opposed to melodramatic angst in the present). I think it's a great approach as the suburbs are pretty bland and dull and the only way to combat that is with a greatly exaggerated sense of importance and meaning. Good job AF, but the Titus album should have been much, much higher than it.

Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:12 (fourteen years ago)

oooooh Guido. My number 3 I think. :)

Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:12 (fourteen years ago)

without listening to that I know it's a Tim F houseathon lol

― acoleuthic, Wednesday, February 2, 2011 1:12 PM (21 seconds ago) Bookmark

it's tim f-y, but not house

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:13 (fourteen years ago)

MAD SAX

Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:13 (fourteen years ago)

guido album is really very cool -- "cat in the window" is my fav

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:13 (fourteen years ago)

ohhh it's dubstep, well it was one or the other haha

too busy getting my mind blown by flying lotus. earl is next up. guido will follow. there's a lot to check out today!

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:14 (fourteen years ago)

yay guido. not a houseathon lj, bristolian..."post-dubstep". they call it purple wow. really beautiful, melodic music - just fantastically detailed and arranged - with the occasional extremely effective r&b vocal. not really overtly club music. "orchestral lab" placed in last year's trax poll iirc.

beautiful complication
cat in the window

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:15 (fourteen years ago)

ahh shit, i forgot to vote for the nina nastasia so i cant complain if it doesn't place. :(

Still hoping it does though.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:15 (fourteen years ago)

i am 99% certain that LJ will love guido, btw

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:15 (fourteen years ago)

ugh, so i forgot to vote for both the-dream AND ciara lol

go guido + jazmine tho!

maybe i'm just gay (Tape Store), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:15 (fourteen years ago)

xps

Huzzah! Something I voted for has turned up. I was underwhelmed by Anidea at first but found myself returning to it a lot. It's probably my favourite of the year's post-dubstep/lolIDM albums, much warmer than e.g. Ikonika or the James Blake EPs. Some representative tracks:

Way U Make Me Feel
Orchestral Lab
Anidea

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:16 (fourteen years ago)

"Mad Sax" is the one track that grates after a while ime.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:17 (fourteen years ago)

I'm in a very receptive mood today, so I probably will xps and yeah especially if it is more melodic than Ikonika whose sound was excellent but whose tunes seemed not quite there

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:17 (fourteen years ago)

something titled "mad sax" probably would

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:17 (fourteen years ago)

metal

Ioannis, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:18 (fourteen years ago)

what did you think of yolanda's vocal version of "way u make me feel" that was on the album, seandalai? it seemed almost too much when i first heard it, but i really got used to it.

hallmark of a great album = all its fans picking different cuts to recommend.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:18 (fourteen years ago)

ok have skipped on Earl for now and am listening to Mad Sax. reminds me a BIT of 'Bows' (Luke Sutherland's electronic project) - this is a compliment btw :)

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:19 (fourteen years ago)

Guido, yay! It's not really dubstep, although the influence is there, it's just really bright sounding electronic loveliness.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:20 (fourteen years ago)

THESE NEW PURITANS - took a while to warm up to "we want war", but i eventually did, and it's wonderful. haven't heard hidden yet, but i did pick up their previous beat pyramid, which i don't love, but am enjoying. lex points out that there's a similarity to recent scott walker, but that the vocals and art-music atmosphere aren't as convincingly SERIOUS, which is true, but as much as i admire the drift, beat pyramid a bit easier to relax into, perhaps because the vocals don't demand as much. reminds me a bit of foetus, though without the humor and referentiality.

AGALLOCH - a magnificent, unholy thing. not my favorite metal album of the year, but easily my favorite agalloch so far, and damn good. does its placement here mean that we won't see nachtmystium at all? suspect so, as agalloch is as close to ILM-bait as contemporary metal gets, this side of alcest, anyway. too bad...

CIARA - liked but didn't love the ciara that showed up in the tracks poll. is this seen by fans as a solid front-to-back listen or primarily a setting for its hits? i ask, cuz the hits didn't sell me.

FLYING LOTUS - intriguing and quite lovely from what i've heard, but i need to give it a serious listen before i say anything.

EARL - love this shit to DEATH, easily my favorite 2010 rap. voted for earl, but placed it too low due to my innate gift for stupidity. and the tyler record's at least nearly as good, maybe tied. i understand why people can't get past the "rapey faggot schtick," and i never suggest that anyone oughto. shit is frequently reprehensible, no argument. i'm not sure why i'm so willing to accommodate odd future's worst tendencies, when such material usually makes me angry or depressed. in part it's the sense of joyfully juvenile irresponsibility (and perverse honesty) that permeates these albums, in part it's the undeniable humor & brilliance of their best lines & beats. and tbph, i actually enjoy s-ing mdh in horror at the rest. hard to play for friends, though...

ARCADE FIRE - i long ago wrote this band off as "not my thing", but i wound up grudgingly enjoying several tracks off neon bible, especially BLACK MIRROR (check it out), which sounds like goth ELO. and though i hadn't heard it prior to trax results, i loved "sprawl II". maybe i secretly like the arcade fire?

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:21 (fourteen years ago)

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30. E-40 — Revenue Retrievin' (484 points, 16 votes, 1 first place vote)
P&J: 187th
Pitchfork: DNP

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:23 (fourteen years ago)

:):):)

just sayin, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:23 (fourteen years ago)

want to hear that album badly but the cover is fugly imo

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:23 (fourteen years ago)

it's kinda just super low budget

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:24 (fourteen years ago)

is this seen by fans as a solid front-to-back listen or primarily a setting for its hits?

solid front-to-back-and-beyond - i think every track is good to great, PLUS there were sundry leaks, freestyles, unofficial remixes and remixes of remixes that basically meant that in 2010 ciara was responsible for a mountain of amazing music.

hurrah e-40: didn't vote for it but a couple more months to get my head round the volume of it all, and i very probably would've done

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:24 (fourteen years ago)

xp to lex: "Way U Make Me Feel" is one of my fav tracks on the album...but yeah that and "Beautiful Complication" do stick out as the two obvious pop moves. I think this adds welcome variety - the original "Way U" would have blended in perfectly with the other instrumentals and one of my initial problems with the album was that it is a bit samey.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:25 (fourteen years ago)

Best sleeve so far!

Davek (davek_00), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:25 (fourteen years ago)

Guido continues to be pretty good. Not as instantly 'fuck me' as Jazmine or Flying Lotus but this is some cool shit to chill to fuiud tbrr

love that E-40 cover. MAY BE BROEK BUT I STILL GOTTA WATCH

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:26 (fourteen years ago)

thought that would be higher & was the one album from my list i knew would place... :):):) otm

Prom Dressantino 2011 (Lamp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:26 (fourteen years ago)

you want to fuck flying lotus?? O_O

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:26 (fourteen years ago)

in space

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:27 (fourteen years ago)

haha i've been going on & on & on about jazmine for the past few months, and i'm sure i've done it to YOU - she came up as a comparison point in the janelle monáe thread a lot. my argument was, and is, that janelle getting props for "genre-busting" and "ambition" is nonsense when someone like jazmine, who actually covers a much vaster stylistic range, doesn't get those same props

― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, February 2, 2011 8:27 AM Bookmark

You keep repeating this fallacy as if it means anything when they are going for totally different things. At any rate, Janelle's album is in my top 5 and none of the songs I've heard from Jazmine's have done anything for me at all.

Cosmogramma and Earl are my votes today so far. Sounds like I might like Guido and We Love though.

Oh, well add E-40 to my votes.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:28 (fourteen years ago)

Actually the great thing about Guido is he's the one producer in this scene where melody is unquestionably the central focus of the music and he's so good at it.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:29 (fourteen years ago)

hah, i've listened to the we love album so much i think i actually burnt out on it a bit

liking this list a lot today!

Jomanda Hugankiss (donna rouge), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:30 (fourteen years ago)

Matt DC OTM

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:30 (fourteen years ago)

decent placing for e-40, would have been in my top 5 & i'm sure would have done even better had deej & i voted (starting to worry about diddy now actually)

"lightweight jammin" gets all the attention for whatever reason, and it's great, but my favorite is bitch. it's kind of overwhelmingly consistent, has to be the best rap double album since what, ugk? i prefer day shift to night shift, but opinion seems to be pretty split

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:32 (fourteen years ago)

ya, and his textures are nicely-chosen as well if a *little* mundane - but as you say, he's all about the space in the mix and the melody, and does it excellently xps

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:32 (fourteen years ago)

Love Guido, especially beautiful complication, which sounds like an r'n'b club compacted into a small metal box. A boîte de nuit if you will.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

bitch & "everyday is a weekend" are my two favorites

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

e-40 pronouncing the word "toilet" >>> music

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

otm

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:34 (fourteen years ago)

"Bitch" is the worst song on the whole double album imo.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:35 (fourteen years ago)

rev don't act like a BITCH

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:35 (fourteen years ago)

Guido title-track is REALLY pretty :)

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:35 (fourteen years ago)

kinda like my issue w/ burzum's worldviews, or any sort of grotesque/prejudiced lyrics -- like, i could probably get over this stuff and enjoy the music on its own merits if i really tried, but there's too much other great stuff out there waiting to be heard that it's not really worth my time

― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, February 2, 2011 12:43 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Comparing an open white supremecist and convicted murderer to teenagers making rape jokes on a record is completely batshit stupid

odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:35 (fourteen years ago)

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29. HOT CHIP — One Life Stand (490 points, 17 votes, 2 first place votes)
P&J: 46th
Pitchfork: 24th
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:35 (fourteen years ago)

so many bizarre first place votes

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:36 (fourteen years ago)

e-40 pronouncing the word "toilet" >>> music

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, February 2, 2011 1:33 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ciderpress, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:36 (fourteen years ago)

my fav on the e-40 is dem boyz - that beat is just ^^^^o^^^^

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:36 (fourteen years ago)

ok i just woke up oops gotta catch up

ciderpress, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:36 (fourteen years ago)

i love the hot chip album a ton -- i think it's their best album & the only one that i liked more over time instead of less -- dropping all the jokey pretense of their music was a great idea it turns out

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:36 (fourteen years ago)

haha was going to post the bitch/over the stove & dem boys videos too many xps

i liked some of the guido stuff i heard in 2009 but for w/e reason never really followed up on his stuff last year.

Prom Dressantino 2011 (Lamp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:36 (fourteen years ago)

Comparing an open white supremecist and convicted murderer to teenagers making rape jokes on a record is completely batshit stupid

i didnt equate the two, i mentioned them both as things that put me off listening (for different reasons)

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:37 (fourteen years ago)

"I don't like these offensive jokes... much like I can't financially support someone who murders people and tries to convince others that blacks and jews are subhuman"

odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:37 (fourteen years ago)

way to continue misinterpreting my point after i've clarified it

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:38 (fourteen years ago)

the whiney g. way

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:38 (fourteen years ago)

u did equate them tho iirc

zvookster, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:38 (fourteen years ago)

A little late but let me say the best track on The Suburbs is actually "City With No Children"

vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:38 (fourteen years ago)

Guido - Way U Make Me Feel was 42 in trax poll last year, it was p nice iirc

zvookster, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:38 (fourteen years ago)

Comparing an open white supremecist and convicted murderer to teenagers making rape jokes on a record is completely batshit stupid

maybe the convicted murderer bit, but spouting off about white supremacy is pretty equivalent to making rape jokes imo. and in both cases, casual rhetoric isn't actually completely disconnected from a climate in which those acts are maybe more likely.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:39 (fourteen years ago)

dropping all the jokey pretense of their music was a great idea it turns out

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, February 2, 2011 6:36 PM (29 seconds ago)

Yeah I couldn't agree more, this is by far my favourite album Hot Chip have done where everything fell into place. It was my number 1 and really glad it's got a decent position.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:40 (fourteen years ago)

Thx for the Guido youtubes, the 3 I've heard so far are immaculate.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:40 (fourteen years ago)

but spouting off about white supremacy is pretty equivalent to making rape jokes

no

odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:40 (fourteen years ago)

burzum doesnt have any white supremacist etc lyrics though,the albums have none of that and that stuff he got into in prison after he had recorded those albums, so some people can still separate the music from the person making it. but i dont want to defend the neo-nazi murdering psychopath,just stating a fact here.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:40 (fourteen years ago)

Guido - Way U Make Me Feel was 42 in trax poll last year, it was p nice iirc

ha weird, the b-side placed. anyway a vocal version of "way u make me feel" as well as the a-side "orchestral lab" are both on this album.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

I Get Down

^My favorite track from the E-40 at the moment

The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

i never got around to listening to e-40 or that hot chip cuz ive been lukewarm on both in the past

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

This Burzum/Earl Sweatshirt debate is just going to go nowhere. STOP.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

Am *REALLY* liking the production on the Earl track 'epaR' and I already loved 'Earl'. Really kickass. They're cunts but whatever :D

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:42 (fourteen years ago)

I did try the Jazmine album after it was mentioned so much as an alternative to Janelle Monae, but I couldn't get into it. I even like her voice, but wasn't into the songs or overall sound. But she's a Philly girl, so I would buy her a chicken cheese steak and all, just not excited by her music.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:42 (fourteen years ago)

but spouting off about white supremacy is pretty equivalent to making rape jokes

no

wtf? both are morally heinous, esp if the rape jokes can be construed as pro-rape

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:42 (fourteen years ago)

I really got to like that Hot Chip album over the course of the year, although I'd never have voted it top.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:43 (fourteen years ago)

"I really got to like that Hot Chip album over the course of the year, although I'd never have voted it top."

agree with this--That track with the humuna-humuna-humuna thing is the only complete dud, though Brothers is also pretty annoying.

skip, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:44 (fourteen years ago)

true lyrical predecessor of odd future

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:44 (fourteen years ago)

pretty clear that ilxor was saying any morally suspect lyrics or artist worldview gives him pause w/r/t their music. anyway his opinion is a pretty valid one and i get it to some extent.

omar little, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:44 (fourteen years ago)

lex, if you honestly can't see the difference between a hateful, bigoted call to action against another race vs. a teenager being insensitive; then you must be like an 8-year-old who doesn't know that words sometimes have context and meaning.

odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:45 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, Brothers is really sort of bad, and I haven't listened to this one as much as the previous two, but I still voted for it anyway on the basis of its strongest tracks. xps

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:45 (fourteen years ago)

Like i'm not saying rape jokes are a good thing, I'm saying they're fucking light years from ACTUAL HATE SPEECH

odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:46 (fourteen years ago)

but rape jokes ARE hate speech!

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:46 (fourteen years ago)

lex, if you honestly can't see the difference between a hateful, bigoted call to action against another race vs. a teenager being insensitive; then you must be like an 8-year-old who doesn't know that words sometimes have context and meaning.

just dont

Prom Dressantino 2011 (Lamp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:46 (fourteen years ago)

rape jokes seem pretty hateful to me

xps

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

e-40 record is dope A++++ fav rap album of the year & i didnt hear a record with more great tracks on it -- so many deep cuts

*kl0p* (deej), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

GUIDO - "cat in the window" sounding quite nice atm, though i want a higher quality tube for the BASS. like the sunny bounce of the melody. for some reason, i usually find it difficult to connect deeply with primarily instrumental electronic music, especially when it's not delivered as concise pop. i tend to enjoy such music while it's on, but the animating personality often evades me or seems willfully opaque. liking the big schmaltzy (synth) horn section at the end here. okay, now "mad sax". come on, this is wonderful! so ridiculous and alive. fuck me for saying that the "personality evades me." here it's front and center. loving "beautiful complication" too. thanks to whoever voted for this.

E-40 - another of my picks, great albums that didn't get half the attention they deserve. can't really pick a favorite either, like k3vin says, both day & night shift are impressively consistent. can totally see why "lightweight jammin" hogs the love though. song of the year, imo. "i get down" <3

HOT CHIP - i liked hot chip circa the warning, but the song "one life stand" so repelled me that i never gave the album a shot.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

I hope this will serve as a palate cleanser...

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TUkMRbjAKSI/AAAAAAAAAbQ/xeVZRRDn0WE/lauramarling.jpg

28. LAURA MARLING — I Speak Because I Can (516 points, 15 votes, 2 first place votes)
P&J: 80th
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

ALL OF YOU SHUT UP

Opening track of One Life Stand is actually kinda awesome :/ WHERE ARE MY PRECONCEPTIONS NOW

It's not a million miles away from LCD Soundsystem but manages to be *substantially* better somehow. Doesn't seem as proscribed. The title-track was pretty bad tho yeah

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

whiney, also might be worth mentioning that burzum isn't really giving anyone a "call to action" -- in interviews he's content to state his worldviews, and that if ppl dont agree (even ppl who listen to & enjoy his music), then whatever

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

off the e-40 my pick was 'he's a gangsta' but only cuz i burned out on 'everydays a weekend' early

*kl0p* (deej), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

he still sucks tho. as does anyone who makes any sort of hate speech, in jokey context or otherwise

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:49 (fourteen years ago)

ilxor, quit getting baited. you're smarter than that.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:49 (fourteen years ago)

lex, if you honestly can't see the difference between a hateful, bigoted call to action against another race vs. a teenager being insensitive; then you must be like an 8-year-old who doesn't know that words sometimes have context and meaning.

actively putting rape jokes front & centre of your schtick is a touch more than insensitive, and being a teenager is no excuse. and yeah, words have context and meaning: joking about the act of rape like that helps create a rape culture where the impulses behind it are normalised. and while most can probably separate words & actions, some won't be able to.

and yeah what exactly is the difference between propagating hate against women vs. propagating hate against different races?

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:49 (fourteen years ago)

my fav on the e-40 is over the stove

beat is O_O

ciderpress, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:50 (fourteen years ago)

i love how everyone has a different favorite track from it, sign of a great album imo

ciderpress, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:50 (fourteen years ago)

ok Hot Chip are starting to get on my nerves now

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

how ironic

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

OK YEAH SHUT UP - LAURA MARLING IS AMAZING!

i liked her debut a lot, but when i heard this it was seriously, whoa, she isn't just some kid who made some nice songs - she's a formidable and ambitious talent, and her entire career is going to be amazing to follow.

alpha shallows
what he wrote

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

let's keep the debate about OF's lyrical content to the thread where it's already been discussed at length?

tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

Poor Laura Marling, getting ignored...

I loved (LOVED) the video for "Rambling Man"

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

can't wait for the laura marling collabo w/ her boyfriend who's in mumford & sons ^____________^

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

slightly harsh, J

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

one zing stand

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:54 (fourteen years ago)

I thought they split up and he made an album about it, or was that Noah and the Whale?xps

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:54 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not sure I've really ever heard Laura Marling, think I was put off by her being in Noah & the Whale. I did love her on that Mystery Jets song though.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:56 (fourteen years ago)

i liked him on the stern show

odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:56 (fourteen years ago)

Is that Alpha Shallows riff lifted from somewhere else? Or have I heard this song and didn't know it?

skip, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:57 (fourteen years ago)

The thing about the Marling album is that it doesn't particularly sound retro or pastiche, yet it has the kind of weight to it that makes it feel like it's been around, in the public consciousness, for 30 or 40 years. Granted, I don't listen to it or appreciate it nearly as much as I should, but I recognize how good it is and how well it's put together.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:57 (fourteen years ago)

j0rdan and lj should stop trying to zing each other and listen to laura marling instead

she's a great lyricist too imo - able to pull off the real intimate, raw details as well as the ambitious addressing-hera-in-song stuff

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:58 (fourteen years ago)

I thought they split up and he made an album about it, or was that Noah and the Whale?xps

― waka flocka flamini (pandemic)

Yeah she's on that 5 Years Time song which is a contender for the worst dong of the last ten years. She broke up with the singer left the band and then they made a boo hoo I'm sad record just after.

I might actually give her album a go.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:58 (fourteen years ago)

That's song not dong by the way.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:59 (fourteen years ago)

i thought the laura marling album was okay, that kinda stuff is not really my thing tho

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:59 (fourteen years ago)

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27. OWEN PALLETT — Heartland (544 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)
P&J: 104th
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 18:59 (fourteen years ago)

^^

"okay, that kinda stuff is not really my thing tho"

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:00 (fourteen years ago)

Laura Marling is amazing and was top 5 for me.

Mordy, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:00 (fourteen years ago)

^^great album xxp

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:00 (fourteen years ago)

Pitchfork: DNP

hmm this surprises me - marling's album was one of the most unanimously praised of 2010 among UK critics. yet this doesn't seem to have impinged on what would seem to be a natural indie-leaning constituency in the US (albeit one comprised of people with cloth for ears, so there is that)

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:00 (fourteen years ago)

heartland is so so good, was my #2 it looks like

ciderpress, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:01 (fourteen years ago)

x-posts (back to LM)

It seems really good, but not my type of thing either. Another one of those: I strongly approve of it showing up here, but I didn't vote for it.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:01 (fourteen years ago)

i really liked one laura marling song 'new romantic' i think but every other track i heard was boring & her voice was too affected & limp to overcome how standard her music is

Prom Dressantino 2011 (Lamp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:01 (fourteen years ago)

Poor Laura Marling, of all the pure and innocent albums to be dropped into the middle of 'rape gags vs white supremacy fite'. I love that album, listened to it more than anything else last year - she seems to be the only person from that scene with any real presence, love her air of quiet authority and defiance in her voice. And the songs are amazing.

(xpost - she is very English-sounding, I can see why Pitchfork didn't take to her)

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:02 (fourteen years ago)

Voted for both Marling and Owen. Very glad to see them both place. In their own way they each have very singular visions and some of the strongest songwriting of the year.

Alex in Montreal, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:02 (fourteen years ago)

based on the five seconds I got through of that Laura Marling song, it sounded like NPR/Starbucks mom music

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:02 (fourteen years ago)

orchestral pop sounds so much better when it's done by someone who actually knows the ins and outs of orchestration instead of just as an aesthetic choice

ciderpress, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:03 (fourteen years ago)

she seems to be the only person from that scene with any real presence, love her air of quiet authority and defiance in her voice

I agree with you on this 100%.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:03 (fourteen years ago)

she is very English-sounding

haha was considering putting 'posh' instead of 'affected' in my post but couldnt remember if she was english also i dont really know what 'posh' singing sounds like

Prom Dressantino 2011 (Lamp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:03 (fourteen years ago)

(xpost - she is very English-sounding, I can see why Pitchfork didn't take to her)

pfork gave her an 8.1

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14075-i-speak-because-i-can

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:03 (fourteen years ago)

Isn't she now going out with one of Mumford & Sons? It's like, don't you know how much BETTER than these people you are?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

how many voters are there in the pitchfork poll?

skip, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

(xpost - she is very English-sounding, I can see why Pitchfork didn't take to her)

are you saying that p4k are parochial and confused by a voice from beyond their narrow cultural purview? i agree!

sadly i am used to most of my favourite female artists having the WORST taste in men, RIHANNA

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:05 (fourteen years ago)

Delighted to see Heartland so high, it was really sad to see it ignored in most of the end of year lists last year.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:06 (fourteen years ago)

are you saying that p4k are parochial and confused by a voice from beyond their narrow cultural purview? i agree!

pfork gave her an 8.1

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14075-i-speak-because-i-can

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congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:06 (fourteen years ago)

It may have got an 8.1 from one writer but it also failed to place in the poll.

Okay I'm loving this Jazmine Sullivan album. With a voice like that I'm amazed they haven't bothered to push her in the UK, we're all over vocalists like that usually.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:07 (fourteen years ago)

Argh, more stuff to listen to! Liked the Pallett I've heard, but atm I'm working thru Earl's work. It's verrrry good. Offensive bro is offensive.

Jazmine album isn't great because of her voice, it's great because she's clearly a superb songwriter...

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:08 (fourteen years ago)

do i have to put xp every time i have one? does the gap of SECONDS in between ilxor's post and mine not already imply it? anyway my point stands w/r/t marling not crossing over to the main caucus of p4k voters despite the positive review

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:08 (fourteen years ago)

Owen Pallett got an 8.6 and (?)failed to place in the P4k poll

Dan S, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

With a voice like that I'm amazed they haven't bothered to push her in the UK, we're all over vocalists like that usually.

the disparity in attention received by adele and jazmine is actually kinda sickening

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

LAURA MARLING - never so much as heard of laura marling, but this is gorgeous music, full stop. listening to "alpha shallows". puts me in mind of 60s folkies like joan baez and simon & garfunkel, maybe even nina simone (heresy!) in the swings toward oppressive goth-gospel grandeur, but that's hardly a bad thing. melodic resolution at the end is lovely. "what he wrote" is much more subdued and truer to its folk precedents, but no less striking. phrasing and melody in both songs occasionally reminds me of joanna newsom, but only slightly. liking this more than any JN since milk-eyed mender.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

based on the five seconds I got through of that Laura Marling song, it sounded like NPR/Starbucks mom music

it's not my thing, either, but this type of criticism is so useless (and juvenile). it's the second time "Starbucks" has been used as a negative criticism of an album on this thread. Who cares if it is listened to by people who drink Starbucks? Would you turn on an album you liked because you heard it being piped in at a Starbucks? Plus, aren't you kind of giving NPR/Starbucks moms a lot of credit for having good taste if the music is acclaimed by people you respect?

rockapads, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:10 (fourteen years ago)

listening to "alpha shallows". puts me in mind of 60s folkies like joan baez and simon & garfunkel

this is exactly why i'm put OFF (sorry!)

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:10 (fourteen years ago)

sounds like something u'd hear in an ilxor-bucks

Mordy, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

based on the five seconds I got through of that Laura Marling song, it sounded like NPR/Starbucks mom music

it's not my thing, either, but this type of criticism is so useless (and juvenile). it's the second time "Starbucks" has been used as a negative criticism of an album on this thread. Who cares if it is listened to by people who drink Starbucks? Would you turn on an album you liked because you heard it being piped in at a Starbucks? Plus, aren't you kind of giving NPR/Starbucks moms a lot of credit for having good taste if the music is acclaimed by people you respect?

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you're the one reading it as a criticism. it's a statement of what it sounds like.

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

the laura marling placement gives me hope for my #1

omar little, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:12 (fourteen years ago)

jk it was totally a criticism

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:12 (fourteen years ago)

what can i say, my mom likes boring music

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:13 (fourteen years ago)

When I used Starbucks in regard to TTMOE way back in the results, it wasn't so much dismissive as it was used to signify a "cleaned up for mass consumption" version of something else. That's not always bad imo.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:13 (fourteen years ago)

Omar please tell me you voted for Nina...

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:14 (fourteen years ago)

Someone post some Owen P. I have no idea what he sounds like.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:14 (fourteen years ago)

;)

omar little, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:14 (fourteen years ago)

lol i just realized this is going to come back and bite me in the ass, given the ages of the people involved in my top three album votes

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:14 (fourteen years ago)

laurie anderson, neil young, underworld?

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTvz1AwWFcI/AAAAAAAAAUI/odmkmJpkbCc/gilscottheron.jpg

26. GIL SCOTT-HERON — I'm New Here (544 points, 20 votes)
P&J: 47th
Pitchfork: 45th
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

or him lol

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

rev: lewis takes off his shirt

ciderpress, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:16 (fourteen years ago)

who's gonna fess up to that #1 vote for arcade fire

talk talk talk (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:16 (fourteen years ago)

I've noticed that ILM often has difficulty coming to grips with women who make quiet music. This isn't unique to ILM, and I'm not claiming this is some sort of sexism issue... rather, that it seems to be something that we find difficult to talk about. It's all either "OMG best thing ever" or "bland/coffee table/cosmetic store" etc. Like we haven't got the language together to really articulate our reactions, to engage with this sort of thing critically.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 10:48 (5 years ago)

This is from the Aerial thread and still stands wrt "Starbucks mom music".

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:17 (fourteen years ago)

wow that video is silly

ciderpress, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:17 (fourteen years ago)

i wonder what ilx poster Ówen P. thinks of that owen pallett album ¯\(°_o)/¯

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:17 (fourteen years ago)

i voted for that gil scott heron-- really great album

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

my mind is kinda wary of british folk making american folk music

talk talk talk (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

gil scott heron's dad played for celtic but i wouldn't call him british

zvookster, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:19 (fourteen years ago)

good tim f quote (obv). and good placing for gil s-h.

my mind is kinda wary of british folk making american folk music

re: marling? she's far more in the british folk tradition than the american one to my ears.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:19 (fourteen years ago)

Corinne Bailey Rae was my favorite woman making quiet music this year.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:20 (fourteen years ago)

ppl interested in more quiet women music, there's a great female singer-songwriter thread

Mordy, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:20 (fourteen years ago)

opening track of pallett album was GREAT!

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:20 (fourteen years ago)

Who are you referring to? Laura Marling? Because her stuff draws on British artists/music more than American artists/music. xps to diamonddave

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

i think there was def some americana in the new marling album, tho generally she's more english infleunces

Mordy, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

xp lex i guess im thinking in particular about a song like 'rambling man' which sounds very american to my ears

talk talk talk (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

Isn't she now going out with one of Mumford & Sons?

worse

tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

Corinne Bailey Rae was my favorite woman making quiet music this year.

she's another one who gets hit with the "bland starbucks music" criticism a lot, so more supporting evidence really. i guess her album prob won't place :(

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:22 (fourteen years ago)

also, i don't think the new one is as good as the debut (which doesn't mean it isn't also excellent)

Mordy, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:22 (fourteen years ago)

'rambling man' which sounds very american to my ears

I think it sounds like Richard Thompson all the way, but whatever.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:22 (fourteen years ago)

I think my desire to like that GSH album was stronger than my desire to listen to it. Didn't make my ballot.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:22 (fourteen years ago)

arcade fire = most overrated band of the decade

couldn't get into that marling thing. accomplished sure, but also dull as dishwater.

the GS-H album was great.

quite enjoyed the owen pallett and flying lotus rekkids.

need to do some explorin' and catchin' up with regards a lot of the other stuff.

charlie h, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

the thing at least about CBR is that her only famous song is really bland starbucks-y, vh1 countdown crap

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

Kind of wishing I'd voted in this thing. Thinking the Liars album is not going to place :/

w/no hesitation (mh), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:24 (fourteen years ago)

I think it sounds like Richard Thompson all the way

yea now that you mention it..

talk talk talk (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:24 (fourteen years ago)

like colbie callait shit

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:24 (fourteen years ago)

she's another one who gets hit with the "bland starbucks music" criticism a lot, so more supporting evidence really. i guess her album prob won't place :(

― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, February 2, 2011 11:22 AM Bookmark

Tbf, that's exactly what I thought of the single I heard from her first album.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:24 (fourteen years ago)

wkiw Colbie

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:25 (fourteen years ago)

The top 25 is now upon us!

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv2-6RciAI/AAAAAAAAAWk/Aw8S-zhrjAw/sviib.jpg

25. SCHOOL OF SEVEN BELLS — Disconnect From Desire (550 points, 20 votes, 2 first place votes)
P&J: 202nd
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:26 (fourteen years ago)

Colbie Caillat - "Mistletoe" is a bit of a jam

zvookster, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:26 (fourteen years ago)

Wanted to like the Owen Pallett album more than I did, however the last minute of 'The Great Elsewhere' was one of my favourite moments from last year.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:26 (fourteen years ago)

dnp smh

talk talk talk (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:27 (fourteen years ago)

Great album.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:27 (fourteen years ago)

oh, and of course the agalloch album is very strong. the most sprawling and ambitious thing they've done by a long shot. it's very much about atmosphere and sense of place - a far cry from the strangely compressed, linear sound of their previous releases.

charlie h, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:27 (fourteen years ago)

Owen Pallett album is REALLY hitting the spot. Marling I got through 3 minutes of and decided it wasn't for me but hey I may return...

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:28 (fourteen years ago)

I have the School Of Seven Bells album on my way to me in the post, based on the song that made the tracks list. I'm not sure why I've never got round to hearing them before.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:29 (fourteen years ago)

man as a dude that loved the first sosb album this one just seemed so meh in comparison

pallett album is fucking great

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:29 (fourteen years ago)

that SVIIB album is FANTAAAASTIC, may have been my #1 or close to it had i bothered to rank my list

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:29 (fourteen years ago)

OWEN PALETT - have passively accepted but never loved palett/final fantasy in the past. checking "lewis takes off his shirt. suppose it's unfair to lead off with, "this sounds like sufjan stevens," but it does. it resembles what i initially liked about illinoise, chopped up with a more swooningly romantic pop vision. splendid. would listen again. "midnight directives" is nice, too, though not as immediately compelling to me. aaaand i'm not really liking "lewis takes action". i'm starting to see as how the wide-eyed, hyperactive relentlessness of the sound can become wearying absent strong hooks. "the great elsewhere" is mostly annoying, for instance, though it does end well. ultimately, i don't think i'm gonna like this, but will take shirtless lewis home for the night, if y'all don't mind.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:30 (fourteen years ago)

anyone who likes this SVIIB and hasn't heard the first album should def. check it out btw, both are excellent

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:30 (fourteen years ago)

hurrah SVIIB, another of my votes. i don't know which i prefer out of this and alpinisms; i don't really have a preference between the clankier, less polished sound of that vs. the windswept sheen of this. maybe this has better songs?

i guess everyone's heard "ilu" from the trax poll, this is what i'd have voted for - heart is strange

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:30 (fourteen years ago)

this sviib album and i went through some shit this year
a very sentimental one for me

talk talk talk (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:30 (fourteen years ago)

Re Heartland: "Lewis Takes Off His Shirt" gets all the love but I prefer "The Great Elsewhere" and "Oh Heartland, Up Yours!". It's a superb and unique album, though the lyrics can be preposterous.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:30 (fourteen years ago)

at some point I thought this S7B was too refined in comparison to Alpinisms but that worry eventually went away. I L U and Heart is Strange are my two favorites, if I had to pick just one it would be the latter.

skip, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:31 (fourteen years ago)

sot7b album starts really well. heart is strange is killah.

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:31 (fourteen years ago)

I really think the Owen Pallett album needs to be listened to in its entirety. It seems very much of a piece to me

Dan S, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:32 (fourteen years ago)

at some point I thought this S7B was too refined in comparison to Alpinisms but that worry eventually went away

"too starbucks"? ha

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:32 (fourteen years ago)

I've already talked about being underwhelmed by I'm New Here and Disconnect From Desire over on the tracks poll so I won't repeat myself.

My fav song from DfD is Windstorm, probably because it's closest to the sound of Alpinisms.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:32 (fourteen years ago)

ok, Owen Pallett is stone-fucking-awesomeness, great discovery

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:33 (fourteen years ago)

GIL-SCOTT HERON and SCHOOL OF THE SEVEN BELLS - wasn't impressed by the tracks off these that made the singles list. both seemed to offer little outside their general sound/vibe, and i wasn't sufficiently seduced to settle for that. alternate track suggestions for the curious?

xps - thanks, will check out "heart is strange"

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:34 (fourteen years ago)

btw anybody who is getting all rent up about if its ok to like the odd future stuff better not have any eazy-e in their collection

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:34 (fourteen years ago)

also as a jerk who never got to listening to it in time to vote both of those odd future albums are fucking amazing and now i feel like a dolt for taking this long

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:36 (fourteen years ago)

ok, Owen Pallett is stone-fucking-awesomeness, great discovery

― acoleuthic, Wednesday, February 2, 2011 7:33 PM

My favourite track is Tryst With Mephistopheles right near the end, I think the second half is stronger.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:36 (fourteen years ago)

don't rly get lex calling revenue retrievin overwhelming on this thread & the last one, it's 40 amazing rap songs does that overwhelm you, u soft? "woah can't take any more of this great rap music" its one of those album 2 me that i just can't stop listening to, as soon as the next song starts u just can't resist, everything on it is so iconic & classic & all the production is HUGE

flopson, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:37 (fourteen years ago)

for those who like SVIIB on this album, here's a couple of the great trax from their last: half asleep ~ connjur ~ my cabal

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:37 (fourteen years ago)

I get why ppl like Disconnect but it just sounds to me like All About Eve, only with all the rough edges smoothed. Very little of what I liked about Alpinisms survives. "ILU" (which I agree is great) and maybe "Heart is Strange" aside, my biggest disappointment of 2010.

Jeff W, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:38 (fourteen years ago)

So7B are ok, but generally need to dirty it up a bit more. a bit too much emphasis on posturing and haircuts, not enough noize.

charlie h, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:38 (fourteen years ago)

So7B are ok, but generally need to dirty it up a bit more.

cannot say this enough: SEE THEM LIVE

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:39 (fourteen years ago)

contenderizer: check out "New York Is Killing Me from the GSH. Best song by far.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:40 (fourteen years ago)

okay, "heart is strange" is a nice step up from "ILU". or maybe i'm just a sucker for driving techno-pop beats. not my favorite thing in the world, but at least i can see the appeal a bit more clearly.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:40 (fourteen years ago)

i saw them live, and guitardude spent most of his time making rock poses and clicking pedals. it wasn't that great.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv6_ibTcAI/AAAAAAAAAYM/fq2mAItlCj0/wakaflockaflame.jpg

24. WAKA FLOCKA FLAME — Flockaveli (558 points, 20 votes, 1 first place vote)
P&J: 65th
Pitchfork: DNP

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

surprised at how low this is

*kl0p* (deej), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

what the fuck

flopson, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:42 (fourteen years ago)

does that owen pallett dude remind anyone else of fernando torres?

charlie h, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:42 (fourteen years ago)

omg yes! re: torres

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:42 (fourteen years ago)

seems about right at #24 imo

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:43 (fourteen years ago)

no

flopson, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:43 (fourteen years ago)

too soon! xp re torres

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:43 (fourteen years ago)

lol @ waka taking its place below kanye, a nation of goons outraged

maybe a ~bit~ too soon, who cares tho

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

wow yeah thought this would be a top 10 album - though i can imagine a few HIDP voters wouldn't necessarily have voted for this

it's 40 amazing rap songs does that overwhelm you

yeah. people just need to stop making double albums.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

whose #1?

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

lol @ waka taking its place below kanye, a nation of goons outraged

u assume that kanye didn't miss the list ENTIRELY

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

mine, altho i think it would have been k3vin & deej's too & they didn't vote?

flopson, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:45 (fourteen years ago)

i'd expect kanye to place #1, or top 5 absolute lowest (but hey- watch me eat my shoe, he could show up today!? who knows)

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:45 (fourteen years ago)

u assume that kanye didn't miss the list ENTIRELY

SPOILER!!! It didn't.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:45 (fourteen years ago)

i'm not surprised at all that this placed in the 20s -- it's exposure is still pretty limited

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:45 (fourteen years ago)

"new york is killing me" is crazy! love the hand percussion, HUGE drums, wobbly bass + synth noise. so rad. could totally get into this. gonna revisit "me and the devil", too.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:45 (fourteen years ago)

POW POW POW POW POW

ciderpress, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:45 (fourteen years ago)

rly shaken up about this tbh

flopson, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:45 (fourteen years ago)

wtf

tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:45 (fourteen years ago)

high # of votes for waka tho, 20 aint bad

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:46 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i regret not voting for flockaveli, hadn't listened to it much yet at voting time

ciderpress, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:46 (fourteen years ago)

Yelawolf's going to do really well in this by virtue of the two Trunk Muziks being counted as one, right?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:46 (fourteen years ago)

My #1 was the SVIIB album immediately before it, but I'm not crying about it. jeez.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:46 (fourteen years ago)

i still have hope that yelawolf will place above kanye

xp!

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:46 (fourteen years ago)

flopson some of us were gr8ful to have our #1s in the 70-77 range

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:46 (fourteen years ago)

& yeah deej not voting cost it, what, 50 points or w/e it was

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:47 (fourteen years ago)

makes me v. glad we did the goon poll

tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:47 (fourteen years ago)

hip-hop albums yet to come: yelawolf, kanye, big boi, mayyyybe first curren$y (prob not?).... what else?

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:47 (fourteen years ago)

Even with two more #1s, Waka wouldn't have cracked the top 20.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

i didnt vote for the waka album because, like the earl album, i rep'd the songs i liked best on the tracks list & never really listen to either all the way thru. both dudes kinda wear me out

i can always kinda tell that i only read a small subset of ilm because i had no idea ppl liked laura marling or school of the seven bells but assumed waka and e-40 would be top ten

Prom Dressantino 2011 (Lamp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

everything i voted for that wasn't either a dead-cert to place in the top 10 or likely to not place at all has now appeared.

tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:51 (fourteen years ago)

That's the best thing about these eoy polls, because I would listen to and maybe like just about everything here, but I just don't have the time or enthusiasm over the course of the year to devour EVERYTHING covered on ILM.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:51 (fourteen years ago)

xp besides yelawolf all of those records are distinctly worse. anyways whatever it is just ilm neway & i usually find it lame when other ppl complain about albums not placing higher, but i had my hopes up after hard in the paint came in second & rly it is the only 2010 album that i connected w/ & felt like was something really new & important

flopson, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:51 (fourteen years ago)

WACKA FLOCKA - spent plenty of time with flockaveli, but didn't vote for it. it's got some tracks, but i tend to get worn out long before it's over. as albums, i prefer prefer E-40's revenue retrievin' and the better odd future stuff, no contest.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:51 (fourteen years ago)

hip-hop albums yet to come: yelawolf, kanye, big boi, mayyyybe first curren$y (prob not?).... what else?

― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor)

Diddy?

I'm thinking Big Boi could be in with a shot at being number 1.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:52 (fourteen years ago)

any chance of another r&b artist other than the big T popping up now i wonder?

tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

i hope pilot talk1 shows but yea i doubt it

diddy'll be top 10-ish i'd guess

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv2A5oL6jI/AAAAAAAAAVk/sMt8gP-YaE8/mia-maya.jpg

23. M.I.A. — /\/\ /\ Y /\ (560 points, 18 votes, 1 first place vote)
P&J: 31st
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

Hahahaha the worst MIA album beating Flockaveli has made this whole thing gloriously worth it.

Yeah I think Big Boi will get #1 due to just getting a huge number of votes from different parts of the board, without many of them necessarily being that high. Janelle Monae maybe for the same reason.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:54 (fourteen years ago)

FWIW, I thought Alpinisms was underwhelming enough that I initially didn't even bother giving Disconnect From Desire a chance. Heard something from it in passing, and took a listen just in case, and turned out to love it. Highest placement of anything I voted for so far.

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:54 (fourteen years ago)

every album from now on imma be like 'how did this place higher than waka?'

that said....HOW DID THIS PLACE HIGHER THAN WAKA?

tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:55 (fourteen years ago)

any chance of another r&b artist other than the big T popping up now i wonder?

sade and erykah are dead certs i'd've thought - pretty much abandoning hope for fantasia and k. michelle now tho :(

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:55 (fourteen years ago)

going to go study now but just know that every shit album that places now is another thrust deeper into my heart

flopson, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:56 (fourteen years ago)

oh yeah and janelle, duh. hollow laugh.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:56 (fourteen years ago)

that's actually quite a few tbh! my memory not working at all.

tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:57 (fourteen years ago)

now you know how the metal, jazz,country etc fans feel flopson

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:57 (fourteen years ago)

was def hoping to see fantasia somewhere earlier on tho :(

tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:57 (fourteen years ago)

i'm shocked at MIA placing at all and it makes me think maybe i don't understand how liked the album actually is.

Mordy, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:58 (fourteen years ago)

"WACKA FLOCKA" ffs, shaking my dh @ myself

M.I.A. - i know she's a punching bag, but i enjoyed maya quite a bit. it's a mess, but at least it's an enjoyable mess, and one with lots of interesting corners and detours to explore.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:58 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i kinda figured this was on some 'hardest way to make an easy living' level of love

omar little, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:59 (fourteen years ago)

I didn't like the album AT ALL when it first came out, but over the course of the year I kept coming back hoping I was ready for it or it was ready for me or something and eventually it started to make some sense. I still didn't vote for it (iirc), but I get why someone would.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 19:59 (fourteen years ago)

i'm shocked at MIA placing at all and it makes me think maybe i don't understand how liked the album actually is.

it kind of makes sense when you remember how previously she'd be a shoe-in for the top 5, with multiple track placings - 23rd with only one track at 34th is a huge fall-off. artists beloved by ilm will always benefit from hangovers from that love even if they disappoint - cf junior boys placing low last year...

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:00 (fourteen years ago)

and yeah it definitely seemed to be a divisive album rather than a unanimously slated one.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:00 (fourteen years ago)

my fav MIA album ^^

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:00 (fourteen years ago)

xpost Fantasia was really high on my list too, would love to see it make it.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:01 (fourteen years ago)

interested in seeing ilxor's ballot. dude is like funhouse mirror version of what music i think is good

Mordy, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:01 (fourteen years ago)

Whoever it was who said Maya is the best punk album of the year otm.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:01 (fourteen years ago)

probably someone who didn't listen to any punk albums this year

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:02 (fourteen years ago)

i suspect a punk band has made a better album this year

ciderpress, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:02 (fourteen years ago)

srsly rev smh @ u

flopson, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:02 (fourteen years ago)

Nah its definitely punk in the oldschool British sense.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTvz1B12ZlI/AAAAAAAAAUM/ZQylMOTDM9M/glasser.jpg

22. GLASSER — Ring (570 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)
P&J: 110th
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:05 (fourteen years ago)

it is punk in the "chumbawumba" sense

flopson, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:05 (fourteen years ago)

^^ bought that album for my mom for xmas :D

flopson, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:06 (fourteen years ago)

hurrah/awww, i genuinely did think this would be higher. TOO LOW.

mirrorage is infuckingcredible - the climax at 2:20 maybe the best few seconds of music last year

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:07 (fourteen years ago)

Waka makes loud, abrasive, angry album = HOW IS THIS NOT IN THE TOP TEN?!

MIA makes loud, abrasive, angry album = OH THE HORROR!!

(I voted for both obv.)

The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:07 (fourteen years ago)

did she like it flopson?

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:07 (fourteen years ago)

Your mom sounds cool xp

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:07 (fourteen years ago)

people who "can't understand" they M.I.A. album placing this high don't really understand fuxxorism. maya's got lots of points of potential appeal in that regard. it's loud and messy, rips off suicide, foregrounds a conflicted artistic personality, comes with lots of backstory, takes lots of chances, and can't be pinned down to any particular style or sound. this makes it something of a labyrinth or puzzle, thus inviting to a certain type of listener, and once you've taken the time to really explore a labyrinth, it's hard not to come to a grudging sort of respect for its designer.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:08 (fourteen years ago)

is 'fuxxorism' the new rockism

ciderpress, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:09 (fourteen years ago)

^^ love glasser, v surprised & happy it made #22, that's really good!

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:09 (fourteen years ago)

glasser record is ok but i have this reflexive parochial rxn like "oh this is the true panther record ilm nerds will give time to???" & then start mentally running thru 'lmtd ed cassettes' that were so much better &c &c

Prom Dressantino 2011 (Lamp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:10 (fourteen years ago)

GLASSER <3. glad to see it here, though over the past couple months that began to feel like an inevitability. prior to that, ILM interest was p subdued.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:10 (fourteen years ago)

is 'fuxxorism' the new rockism

i dunno. maybe? i am fuxxor, hear me roxxor

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

The last True Panther record ilm nerds championed was Girls, so this is about a 2000% improvement.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

xp lex-- she said she did but every time i go to their place it's on the mantle in the case & not in the 6cd changer :( first time we listened to it togethere in the car she was it was georgeous. my mom has issues w/ absorbing emotions thru music tho, she's expressed it to me as like, she finds it too much of an intense experience being thrust on her. i bought it for her cause i thought it was all lush & prettiness but there are some weird beats it's true

flopson, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

glasser record is ok but i have this reflexive parochial rxn like "oh this is the true panther record ilm nerds will give time to???" & then start mentally running thru 'lmtd ed cassettes' that were so much better &c &c

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posts v much in character lol ;)

flopson, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

lol, glasser's thread had the least apt title ever - prob put off several people from clicking on it, i'm guessing Glasser: the newest LA diva

for ages i classed it as a really interesting record from a major talent who hadn't quite got the hang of consistently writing great songs yet - as the months went on and i lived with it more, i really changed my mind about that. she's great live, too. i love discovering artists who are totally sui generis like this. i get the impression that we don't know the half of what she's like yet.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:14 (fourteen years ago)

good post.....will have to go back and listen to it again

Dan S, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:15 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv0u9NgvlI/AAAAAAAAAU4/Ij3IZ1eO6qs/joannanewsom.jpg

21. JOANNA NEWSOM — Have One on Me (636 points, 17 votes, 2 first place votes)
P&J: 14th
Pitchfork: 7th

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:16 (fourteen years ago)

ugh, what a way to finish today's countdown!

skip, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:17 (fourteen years ago)

She was #21 in the tracks poll too, so at least she gets shut out of the run for the crown!

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:17 (fourteen years ago)

ahahahahahahahaha

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:19 (fourteen years ago)

JN the third of my votes to show up. The high points are very high indeed imo.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:20 (fourteen years ago)

interested in seeing ilxor's ballot. dude is like funhouse mirror version of what music i think is good

*cough*

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:21 (fourteen years ago)

there's good stuff in that JN album, haven't heard it all. haven't heard 20% of it, in fact. one day. one day other than today.

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:22 (fourteen years ago)

Have #21 on me

seminal fuiud (NickB), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:22 (fourteen years ago)

lololol

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:23 (fourteen years ago)

btw it's a woman! making quiet music! cue uncontained hyperbole, as Tim F says...

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:23 (fourteen years ago)

Joanna's album is good, but I think she and everyone else will agree, in hindsight, that three discs is not a good idea for anyone. Can never get a 'grip' of the album and its shape, even though there are many pieces of beautiful music there. Ys still stands heads and shoulders above, for me.

abcfsk, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:24 (fourteen years ago)

i don't agree--it's an exceptionally easy album to break into manageable pieces

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:24 (fourteen years ago)

man, im sorry i bothered arguing about the placement of girl unit when MIA records are beating flockaveli

*kl0p* (deej), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:25 (fourteen years ago)

Ha lex xp on the shitty glasser thread title.

you right about that, i was probably high when i made it.

also, lex, you're also right about glasser's potential. She comes up with stuff seemingly out of thin air, and it wouldn't even appear to work but by god it does. can't wait to see what she does next.

Captain Ahab, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:25 (fourteen years ago)

i don't agree--it's an exceptionally easy album to break into manageable pieces

yes, these pieces are called "songs" -- amazing idea really

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:25 (fourteen years ago)

i feel like people getting me to listen to joanna newsom after they hype it up is the same as when i give poor saps a big run up of how amazing the shit im about to play is and then throw on some nurse with wound, its useful in a holding up the mirror way

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:26 (fourteen years ago)

having heard both MIA and Flocka albums i unquestionably prefer the former tbh

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:26 (fourteen years ago)

yeah it's more of "dipping in" experience listening to something that long. lyrics are beautiful on almost every song, tho, something I don't think is true of very many artists

Dan S, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:27 (fourteen years ago)

JN is the kind of artist i can forgive for being occasionally exhausting and ponderous, because i tend to feel she's at her most fascinating when her imagination runs rampant in unyielding and unabridged ways. if that means 3 cds and a lot of hard work then so be it.

charlie h, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:27 (fourteen years ago)

not surprised xxp

flopson, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:28 (fourteen years ago)

I did indeed avoid that Glasser thread and Glasser herself because of that "LA diva" description - Mirrorage, wow.

skip, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:28 (fourteen years ago)

I think she allowed herself to be unyielding and unabridged on Ys' long, long songs, but still contained it within something I'm able to listen through from start to finish quite often. I do like Have One quite a lot, though, and voted for it.

abcfsk, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:30 (fourteen years ago)

So happy that Glasser made it, that was very high on my ballot. She could do something truly incredible on her next record, and yeah amazing voice and glorious widescreen production. LJ listen to this one if you haven't already!

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:30 (fourteen years ago)

This is it so far:

77. HARVEY MILK — A Small Turn of Human Kindness (240 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
76. QUADRON — Quadron (240 points, 12 votes)
75. RIHANNA — Loud (244 points, 9 votes)
74. ZOLA JESUS — Stridulum II (244 points, 10 votes)
73. THIRD EYE FOUNDATION — The Dark (246 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes)
(TIE) 71. THE TALLEST MAN ON EARTH — The Wild Hunt (250 points, 8 votes)
(TIE) 71. KYLIE MINOGUE — Aphrodite (250 points, 8 votes)
70. WARPAINT — The Fool (250 points, 9 votes)
69. SUN ARAW — On Patrol (252 points, 8 votes)
68. NO AGE — Everything in Between (256 points, 11 votes)
67. GAYNGS — Relayted (258 points, 10 votes)
66. GUCCI MANE — Mr. Zone 6 (260 points, 9 votes)
65. SUN CITY GIRLS — Funeral Mariachi (260 points, 9 votes, 2 first place votes)
64. THE RADIO DEPT. — Clinging to a Scheme (266 points, 11 votes)
63. THE KNIFE — Tomorrow, In a Year (270 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
62. THE NATIONAL — High Violet (270 points, 9 votes)
61. ENSLAVED — Axioma Ethica Odini (272 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)

60. KELIS — Flesh Tone (272 points, 11 votes)
59. CURREN$Y — Pilot Talk II (272 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)
58. IKONIKA — Contact, Love, Want, Have (276 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote)
57. R. KELLY — Love Letter (284 points, 12 votes)
56. THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS — Further (286 points, 10 votes)
(TIE) 54. NEIL YOUNG — Le Noise (290 points, 11 votes)
(TIE) 54. THE FALL — Your Future Our Clutter (290 points, 11 votes)
53. RANGDA — False Flag (306 points, 9 votes)
52. JAVIERA MENA - Mena (310 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes)
51. CRYSTAL CASTLES — Crystal Castles (312 points, 13 votes)
50. GORILLAZ — Plastic Beach (316 points, 12 votes)
49. MARINA & THE DIAMONDS — The Family Jewels (320 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)
48. DEERHUNTER — Halcyon Digest (320 points, 13 votes)
47. ELECTRIC WIZARD — Black Masses (334 points, 10 votes)
46. BIG K.R.I.T. — K.R.I.T. Wuz Here (344 points, 11 votes)
45. PANTHA DU PRINCE — Black Noise (348 points, 15 votes)
44. TYLER, THE CREATOR — Bastard (352 points, 14 votes)
43. SPOON — Transference (374 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)
42. RICK ROSS — Teflon Don (380 points, 12 votes)
41. YEASAYER — Odd Blood (380 points, 13 votes)

40. WE LOVE — We Love (380 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote)
39. JAZMINE SULLIVAN — Love Me Back (404 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)
38. TITUS ANDRONICUS — The Monitor (410 points, 15 votes, 4 first place votes)
37. THESE NEW PURITANS — Hidden (414 points, 13 votes)
36. AGALLOCH — Marrow of the Spirit (420 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote)
35. CIARA — Basic Instinct (438 points, 14 votes, 3 first place votes)
34. FLYING LOTUS — Cosmogramma (462 points, 17 votes)
33. EARL SWEATSHIRT — Earl (474 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote)
32. ARCADE FIRE — The Suburbs (478 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote)
31. GUIDO — Anidea (480 points, 17 votes)
30. E-40 — Revenue Retrievin' (484 points, 16 votes, 1 first place vote)
29. HOT CHIP — One Life Stand (490 points, 17 votes, 2 first place votes)
28. LAURA MARLING — I Speak Because I Can (516 points, 15 votes, 2 first place votes)
27. OWEN PALLETT — Heartland (544 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)
26. GIL SCOTT-HERON — I'm New Here (544 points, 20 votes)
25. SCHOOL OF SEVEN BELLS — Disconnect From Desire (550 points, 20 votes, 2 first place votes)
24. WAKA FLOCKA FLAME — Flockaveli (558 points, 20 votes, 1 first place vote)
23. M.I.A. — /\/\ /\ Y /\ (560 points, 18 votes, 1 first place vote)
22. GLASSER — Ring (570 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)
21. JOANNA NEWSOM — Have One on Me (636 points, 17 votes, 2 first place votes)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:30 (fourteen years ago)

Voted for 'Mirrorage' in the singles poll, suspect that if this poll was to be held again in the future the album would get a look in as it's a definite grower.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:31 (fourteen years ago)

Glasser is next up after Pallett - am a bit music'd out now and watching soccerball but will be on it later :)

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:33 (fourteen years ago)

ready to predict the top 20 anyone??

Ariel Pink
Erykah Badu
Beach House
Big Boi
Caribou
Diddy Dirty Money
The-Dream
Four Tet
Janelle Monae
LCD Soundsystem
Lindstrom & Christabelle
Robyn
Sade
Sleigh Bells
Swans
Taylor Swift
Underworld
Vampire Weekend
Kanye West
Yelawolf

outside shots from the non-ilx world of pop music, in case Beach House ends up being too indie or something, though I can’t imagine Arcade Fire (for ex.) making it and Beach House not doing so:

Drake
Ke$ha
Nicki Minaj
Katy Perry

so... anything i'm missing?

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:36 (fourteen years ago)

^^ SPOILER ALERT btw, sorry

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:36 (fourteen years ago)

Was listening to that Laura Marling album in the bath and to echo a lot of other people: it's pretty good but not really my thing. I do hear where folks are coming from when they say she sounds american, cos there is somewhat of a Joni Mitchell vibe going on, but you do have to bear in mind what a massive influence Joni was on the whole tradition of British singer-songwriters. However I'm hearing a bit of a Will Oldham too, especially on 'Hope In The Air' - the way it's recorded, the space that's given to her voice which quietly utters just as much as sings. Not into 'Darkness Descends' much though, that one sounds like the fucking Fleet Foxes.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

oneohtrix?
emeralds?

seminal fuiud (NickB), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

ahhh good call, i'd love for either of those to make it. but who knows. i can't see anything from my 20 missing the poll for one of those, sadly :(

i'd have voted for emeralds if i'd heard it in time. still havent heard oneohtrix in full

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:39 (fourteen years ago)

"I think she allowed herself to be unyielding and unabridged on Ys' long, long songs, but still contained it within something I'm able to listen through from start to finish quite often."

yeah, i thought of that immediately after i posted actually. i still return most frequently to Ys because at five well-paced tracks it's a fair sight less daunting than the last one, and i always seem to get better returns from it. that said, i don't really care for M-EM because the songs aren't fleshed-out and developed nearly enough.

charlie h, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:40 (fourteen years ago)

if ilxor's top 20 is accurate, then 19/25 of my ballot will place :o

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:41 (fourteen years ago)

also: so many of these albums getting 1st place votes! cheering to see, tbh.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:42 (fourteen years ago)

ilxor correctly predicted the Top 10 in the tracks poll, but he's not perfect this time.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:42 (fourteen years ago)

that potential top 20 is nowhere near as good or interesting as 21-40. may not even bother following it.

unless it's completely wrong lol

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:43 (fourteen years ago)

i would bet one of those other secondary choices will place over Underworld. Otherwise it looks right to me

Dan S, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:43 (fourteen years ago)

if ilxor's top 20 is accurate, then 19/25 of my ballot will place :o

embarrassingly, 100% of mine could go top 77 still. but i voted specifically for things i thought had a good shot at the list, trying to boost those albums (my "honest" top 25 would be a bit different than my ilx ballot)

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:43 (fourteen years ago)

Underworld and Sade are top 20, really? How about Swans? The rest seem like locks though I'm unfamiliar with how well Diddy was received by the hip hop people here.

skip, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:44 (fourteen years ago)

i'm pretty sure ke$ha will place. it has quite a few supporters who will have placed it at the very top of their ballots

prolego, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:45 (fourteen years ago)

i think swans is more of a lock than 50% of that list

ciderpress, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:45 (fourteen years ago)

Joanna Newsom was my #1, I thought it had a chance to place higher, guess not though.

It was easily the album I listened to the most this past year, but I pretty much never tried listening to all 3 CDs in a single sitting, it's way too much. Taken on a song-by-song basis though, there is just tons of great material here. I doubt I'll convince anyone, but I think it's terrific album and her strongest so far.

Moodles, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:45 (fourteen years ago)

I'd guess 18 albums that are locks for the top 20:

Ariel Pink
Beach House
Big Boi
Caribou
Cee-Lo
Diddy
Erykah
Four Tet
Janelle Monae
Kanye
LCD Soundsystem
Lindstrom & Christabelle
Robyn
Sade
Salem
Sleigh Bells
The-Dream
Vampire Weekend
Yelawolf

Plus a couple of wild cards.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:45 (fourteen years ago)

though I'm unfamiliar with how well Diddy was received by the hip hop people here.

hahahaha nice

click on one of the last train to paris threads and be amazed

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:46 (fourteen years ago)

i'm pretty sure ke$ha will place. it has quite a few supporters who will have placed it at the very top of their ballots

i can see ke$ha being dominant in the singles poll but not albums tbh

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:46 (fourteen years ago)

were enough ppl feelin the whole sade album?

just sayin, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:47 (fourteen years ago)

Oh and Taylor Swift, that one's a no-brainer.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:47 (fourteen years ago)

no way is Salem going to make it
yeah, Sade may not either

Dan S, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:47 (fourteen years ago)

If Oneohtrix doesn't make it my <3 will break :(

seminal fuiud (NickB), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:47 (fourteen years ago)

salem? really?

just sayin, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:47 (fourteen years ago)

(xxpost)

just sayin, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:47 (fourteen years ago)

Really hope I'm wrong about Salem.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:48 (fourteen years ago)

i am pretty confident that Oneohtrix will make my 2010 top ten once i actually hear the damn album, based on my <333 for Rifts, but i didn't want to "cheat" and put it on my ballot w/o actually hearing it front to back

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:49 (fourteen years ago)

Worst case scenario = GIRL TALK

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:49 (fourteen years ago)

Don't think Underworld will place, I think Sade's a cert. Sadly don't think Tracey Thorn will feature now.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

girl talk wont make it, but he's probably watching this poll for sample ideas to use on his next album

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

Speculation is great fun, but don't spoil tomorrow by getting into conversations about the suspected albums that might place (like discussing their merits, etc) if you can help it. Otherwise, there will be a lot of crickets on the board tomorrow.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

Drake wasn't nominated btw.

Tyler/Perry's "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:51 (fourteen years ago)

Drake wasn't nominated btw.

<3 u ILX

tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

Drake wasn't nominated btw.

LOL!!!! so awesome i love you ilx

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

admittedly i put "shut it down" ft. the-dream on my trax ballot but the rest of that album was fucking awful

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

Drake wasn't nominated btw.

<3 u ILX

― tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Wednesday, February 2, 2011 8:53 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

:D

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:55 (fourteen years ago)

the "shut it down" that's on the album is so much worse than the demo tho

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:55 (fourteen years ago)

I don't think Sade will make it. Seems like deej and lex were the only ones here who really liked it that much? And one of them didn't vote.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:56 (fourteen years ago)

i was about to ask who the hell would vote for drake...

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:57 (fourteen years ago)

i loved sade & voted for it-- actually decided NOT to put in on trax ballot b/c i wanted to rep for the album more so

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:57 (fourteen years ago)

Field Music ftw! :D

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:57 (fourteen years ago)

field music will place top 5 from all of me and lj's fraudulent extra ballots

ciderpress, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:58 (fourteen years ago)

i was about to ask who the hell would vote for drake...

honestly the whole album kinda breezed over me as non-interesting middle of the year, forgot about it completely. then saw a couple of the village voice critics repping for "shut it down" (rob sheffield top 10 i think?) and was like "hmmmmm" and then played it the fxck out for a few days, during the same window i submitted my ilx ballot. it would drop outta my 25 these days but i do think it's his best tune.

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:59 (fourteen years ago)

I'm holding a candle for Ramadanman, but I don't think he'll place.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:59 (fourteen years ago)

i was about to ask who the hell would vote for drake...

I might've! Like in the 20-25 range, maybe.

Tyler/Perry's "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 20:59 (fourteen years ago)

i actually love this song but this made me lol:

then saw a couple of the village voice critics repping for "shut it down" (rob sheffield top 10 i think?) and was like "hmmmmm"

i can totally enjoy drake as a forgettable r&b singer on a dope terius song

tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:01 (fourteen years ago)

my prediction for top 20

active child - curtis lane EP
sara bareilles - viewfinder heart
blondes - touched EP
dale earnhardt jr jr - horse power EP
drake - thank me
echoes - nature/existence
eminem - recovery (remixes)
fancypants - majora unmasked
kanye - 10.0 and counting
last of the real hardmen - darkness
metaphonic portrait - 1230 a.d.
mogwai - special moves
swedish house mafia - until one
tennis - baltimore 7"
train - save me san fran (golden gate edition)
twells & christensen - coasts
zachary james watkins - black spirituals
yelawolf - trunk muzik
yellow swans - CDR muzik
v/a - digitals presents #3

Prom Dressantino 2011 (Lamp), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:02 (fourteen years ago)

The Underworld thread was pretty unanimously 'OMG I LOVE THIS' but I think that's a pretty small number of posters most of which probably won't have voted. Will be pleasantly surprised if it's in there but I doubt it.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:03 (fourteen years ago)

lamp w/ best post in thread

ciderpress, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:04 (fourteen years ago)

I was one of those people that was enthusiastic for Underworld, but I voted for them in the tracks poll instead. Album had to make way for important stuff like secruing the 305th spot for Yellow Swans :(

seminal fuiud (NickB), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:10 (fourteen years ago)

I voted Underworld

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:14 (fourteen years ago)

i actually love this song but this made me lol:

then saw a couple of the village voice critics repping for "shut it down" (rob sheffield top 10 i think?) and was like "hmmmmm"

ha i know its lame but i do watch ppl's EOY lists and check out stuff, i'm sure lots of ilxors do. and i'm as interested in hearing what's on sheffield's radar as i am everyone from ilxors lex, finney, xhuxk, etc. to various other folks

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:16 (fourteen years ago)

i voted underworld album too!

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:16 (fourteen years ago)

Joanna Newsom was my #1, I thought it had a chance to place higher, guess not though.

It was easily the album I listened to the most this past year, but I pretty much never tried listening to all 3 CDs in a single sitting, it's way too much. Taken on a song-by-song basis though, there is just tons of great material here. I doubt I'll convince anyone, but I think it's terrific album and her strongest so far.

― Moodles, Wednesday, February 2, 2011 8:45 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i was the other number one voter for this.

moodles' post sums up my feelings too. forget that it's 3 cds, just listen to the songs. i enjoyed other moments of other albums more last year, but i could immerse myself more in this particular album more than any other.

immersion is key.

i fellate myself and want to fly (whatever), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:25 (fourteen years ago)

So Glasser is what I'm supposed to like instead of Marina & the Diamonds (like Jazmine Sullivan is one of several artists I'm supposed to prefer to Janelle Monae). I know I clicked on that Glasser thread and didn't care for what I heard, and then completely forgot I had done so until someone mentioned the thread just now. Nevertheless, I will see how far I get with the album. Generally speaking the whole, "why do you listen to crap like x when you could be listening to (allegedly similar, but better) stuff like y?" doesn't make me very receptive to things. (I've even gotten: "If you like Steve Reich, I think you'll find Arvo Pärt has more depth and better ideas than Reich," or something like that.)

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:27 (fourteen years ago)

^^ otm 100%

it's perfectly okay to like both janelle and jazmine btw people

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:30 (fourteen years ago)

relieved

just sayin, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:32 (fourteen years ago)

and to see janelle and robyn in concert in the same week

i fellate myself and want to fly (whatever), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:33 (fourteen years ago)

pretty sure that's not legal in texas tho

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:33 (fourteen years ago)

ahhh dang i have robyn tix,. hope janelle holds off her tour for a different week ;_;

thx for heads up guys

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:38 (fourteen years ago)

Just spent an enjoyable half hour playing melodica along to the Glasser album, which I heard for the first time. (I'd already heard and liked "Apply.")

Tyler/Perry's "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:39 (fourteen years ago)

I was really hoping the Scissor Sisters album would place. I know it has few supporters on here and Invisible Light did really well in the tracks list, think it probably would have been a lot lower down if in at all.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:49 (fourteen years ago)

I don't think my #1 album or #3 are going to make it (no, it's not metal before you ask, my ballot was only like 10/25 metal related)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:50 (fourteen years ago)

oops, left Night Work off my ballot by accident...should have had another 20 some points.

skip, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:50 (fourteen years ago)

emeralds had better place.

talk talk talk (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:51 (fourteen years ago)

^ one of the albums im talking about

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:53 (fourteen years ago)

Just realised that High On Fire & Alcest are going to miss out. I thought they were the ILM metal bands for people who don't usually do metal. Wonder if one of those were the metal band @ #100 that johnny mentioned in the other thread?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:53 (fourteen years ago)

i still think HOF could make it

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:54 (fourteen years ago)

I think the only thing left on my ballot that might make it is Swans. That would make it 3 of 20 (Electric Wizard and Agalloch the others).

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:57 (fourteen years ago)

To Davek_00 - that Lone album is terrific, also plus points for including a tune called Petrcane Beach Track, as that's one of my favourite places in the world.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:59 (fourteen years ago)

emeralds album is a lock

just woke up (lukas), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:59 (fourteen years ago)

Raising my glass to the other person who voted Laura Marling as their #1. You and me called it right, damn straight.

fwiw I do hear a little bit country in her little bit English folk album. I also agree that her voice has a timeless quality, familiar even though it's brand new. Don't overdo the quiet female though - her voice has a steeliness inside it. However soft she sings, she's never fey or vague.

Never been inside a Starbucks in my life, btw.

Danzig, with tears in my eyes (DavidM), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:17 (fourteen years ago)

I think I actually really like These New Puritans :/ Never heard of em before. "We want war" is a bit Massive Attack. Whats with all the mentions of Assasins Creed, did they do the soundtrack to that or something? Because lol.

Cyclone Yazoo (Trayce), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:20 (fourteen years ago)

I love the video clip for it fwiw.

Cyclone Yazoo (Trayce), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:21 (fourteen years ago)

Newsom too low.

Danzig, with tears in my eyes (DavidM), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:21 (fourteen years ago)

Way too low. Christ.

Danzig, with tears in my eyes (DavidM), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:22 (fourteen years ago)

Never been inside a Starbucks in my life, btw.

wish i had as much cred as this guy

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:22 (fourteen years ago)

I've never been inside a starbucks either. Melb ppl look down their collective noses at Sbux tbh.

Cyclone Yazoo (Trayce), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:23 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not all the way through it, but this Kelis album is pretty good (and I'd already liked "Acapella" after hearing it as a result of the tracks results). This could easily be the one album I take away from these album results. (I've never liked her before that I know of, certainly not for that Milkshake song.)

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:25 (fourteen years ago)

lol

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:26 (fourteen years ago)

Joanna Newsom placed #21 out of something like 600+ albums that received votes, AND has a sizeable group of vocal and very serious detractors and you think Have One On Me placed too low? Be thankful for your supper, DavidM.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:27 (fourteen years ago)

Joanna Newsomwaka flocka flame placed #25 out of something like 600+ albums that received votes, AND has a sizeable group of vocal and very serious detractors and you think Have One On Meflockavelli placed too low?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:29 (fourteen years ago)

johnny is the one who shouts too low on every ilm poll ever, lol

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:34 (fourteen years ago)

wtf does "algerian goalkeeper" know about "every ilm poll ever"

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:34 (fourteen years ago)

i was about to ask who the hell would vote for drake...

― الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, February 2, 2011 1:57 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

I would've, but I didn't submit a ballot.

rihanna rennavated my dick (rennavate), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:35 (fourteen years ago)

Ey what i stand for? NEWSOM! (Joanna Squad)
Have one on me shawty man i swear to god
On the harp wit some critics and some hood hipsters (Whassup)
Where you at? Where your harp? You aint hood, hipster

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:37 (fourteen years ago)

johnny is the one who shouts too low on every ilm poll ever, lol

But them's joeks.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:37 (fourteen years ago)

I pretty much never tried listening to all 3 CDs in a single sitting, it's way too much.

I just take them one disc per sitting. Almost treating them as three separate albums sorta thing.

Other albums I voted for: SVIIB, These New Puritans, The Fall, Crystal Castles, Warpaint, Zola Jesus. The top 20 doesn't look too promising in regards to featuring anything else I voted for, sadly. I had hoped that Newsom, and maybe just maybe Marling, would crack the top 20. No dice. ur taste sux ilx.

Checking out this We Love LP right now - really not bad.

Danzig, with tears in my eyes (DavidM), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:38 (fourteen years ago)

I go hard on the muthafuckin harp hipster
Leave you stankin hipster
What the fuck you thinkin hipster

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:38 (fourteen years ago)

Emeralds album is sounding kinda pretty, I like it.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:40 (fourteen years ago)

........ xp

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:40 (fourteen years ago)

custos flocka flame

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:44 (fourteen years ago)

i just think it's ultimately better that JN is really stretching herself, crafting these long, ambitious (granted, frequently tiresome) songs. far better than pigeon-holing herself as an innocuous footnote in the realm of twee indie, which was where she was heading with that forgettable first album.

charlie h, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:46 (fourteen years ago)

you accidentally posted your opinion of 'ys'

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:46 (fourteen years ago)

kind of holds true for this latest one as well. though i'll admit it's lazy for me to group them together - they're far too different for that.

charlie h, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:49 (fourteen years ago)

I've never been inside a starbucks either. Melb ppl look down their collective noses at Sbux tbh.

Don't you have Gloria Jean's all over the place?

Tyler/Perry's "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" (jaymc), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:49 (fourteen years ago)

she ain't no sandy denny

basedketball (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:51 (fourteen years ago)

caribou coffee is a lot better than starbucks imo

basedketball (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:51 (fourteen years ago)

jaymc - we do, and theyre shit also!

Other albums I voted for: SVIIB, These New Puritans, The Fall, Crystal Castles, Warpaint, Zola Jesus.

GOTH.

Cyclone Yazoo (Trayce), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:52 (fourteen years ago)

J-New escaped potential footnote purgatory pretty monumentally with Ys and didn't need three discs to do it. Anyway never use the words 'twee indie' in relation to her again.

abcfsk, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 23:27 (fourteen years ago)

hey dude i'm by no means one of the "very serious detractors"! :)

charlie h, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 23:30 (fourteen years ago)

of interest to dilettantes & fuxxors:

39. JAZMINE SULLIVAN — Love Me Back -- agh, so fucking great! if nothing else, poll would be worth it just for this
38. TITUS ANDRONICUS — The Monitor -- talked smack about this upthread, and have tried and failed to like this record at least three times since it came out. but when i was listening to this earlier today to confirm for myself that i hated it i found that ... i didn't. i was even kind of digging it. i couldn't admit it then, but have since found the courage. titus andronicus might just be okay. don't tell anyone i said so
37. THESE NEW PURITANS — Hidden -- slowly getting into these fascists & their groove thing, picked up hidden today
36. AGALLOCH — Marrow of the Spirit -- beautiful record, gets better every time i hear it, but where's the vinyl?
34. FLYING LOTUS — Cosmogramma -- plan to come back to this, intriguing but not terribly immediate from what i've heard
33. EARL SWEATSHIRT — Earl -- FREE THE E!
31. GUIDO — Anidea -- along with jazmine sullivan and laura marling, one of three great surprises from today's results. ty, ILM
30. E-40 — Revenue Retrievin' -- TOO LOW
28. LAURA MARLING — I Speak Because I Can -- fw this mom music, fuiud
27. OWEN PALLETT — Heartland -- interesting, occasionally brilliant, but maybe too much of a good thing?
26. GIL SCOTT-HERON — I'm New Here -- thanks to rev for pointing me towards "new york is killing me"
23. M.I.A. — /\/\ /\ Y /\ -- better than you think
22. GLASSER — Ring -- as good as everyone says

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 23:41 (fourteen years ago)

37. THESE NEW PURITANS — Hidden -- slowly getting into these fascists & their groove thing, picked up hidden today

I really wish ILM (and people in general) had paid any attention to Beat Pyramid back in 2008, because it's so much better than Hidden. Of course, I have no real case to make for it, other than that it's just a little more fluid and far less cringeworthy.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 23:48 (fourteen years ago)

anyway my point is, i'm happy she kept things challenging after Ys. HOOM isn't a step forward or a better album, but it's an extremely positive expression of how resolute and uncompromising she is. it doesn't all work, but there are moments when her tenacity fuses with her talent and allows her to reach astonishing highs in her music.

charlie h, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 23:51 (fourteen years ago)

Man what a bunch of not-for-me albums. After Rangda it's just a wasteland except for Newsom (good but flawed) and MIA (ditto) and maybe that Titus record. I still think the Swans rec is gonna show up though, and Emeralds would be nice. Other than that, this poll just makes me sad (takes off LJ impersonator mask).

sleeve, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 23:52 (fourteen years ago)

I really wish ILM (and people in general) had paid any attention to Beat Pyramid back in 2008, because it's so much better than Hidden.

can't yet make an honest comparison, but i picked up beat pyramid a few days ago, and though it took me a little while to get the hang of the drama, i'm loving it atm. with any luck, some of hidden's shine will bounce back on the debut.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 23:53 (fourteen years ago)

Ys achieved those highs more consistently, i agree. that's why it's one of my favourite albums of the decade.

charlie h, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 23:53 (fourteen years ago)

swans had better show up. i would have given it a number one vote.

charlie h, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 23:54 (fourteen years ago)

I kind of have ignored Newsom since I saw her live post-first album as her vocal inflections just got on my nerves too much. Should I try listening again?

w/no hesitation (mh), Thursday, 3 February 2011 00:06 (fourteen years ago)

IGNORE ILM AND BUY YS IMMEDIATELY

markers, Thursday, 3 February 2011 00:06 (fourteen years ago)

I should probably just do a thorough run-down since I can't stop throwing out comments, but I really do not get Guido. Cheap electronic sounds with occasional 80s TV theme saxophone and some okay but not terrific beats and melodies. lex keeps talking about how melodic it is but I don't hear anything special about it melodically.

(Hip-hop and metal I mostly just don't bother commenting on at this point, except in very rare cases when I like them, since clearly the overwhelming majority of in each genre is not for me. Most indie rock probably can be added to that category as well, though not necessarily indie pop or indie anything else.)

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 3 February 2011 00:18 (fourteen years ago)

Wild Nothing? Expected to see it the middle of the list somewhere, so hopefully it's absence means that it hit the top 20?

Z S, Thursday, 3 February 2011 00:22 (fourteen years ago)

hmm really feelin hot chip - i feel better

johnny crunch, Thursday, 3 February 2011 00:27 (fourteen years ago)

^ one of my favorite videos of last year.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 00:30 (fourteen years ago)

hmm really feelin hot chip - i feel better

― johnny crunch, Wednesday, February 2, 2011 4:27 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^ one of my favorite videos of last year.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, February 2, 2011 4:30 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

hell yeah. a friend showed it to me last summer, but i'd forgotten all about it. was complaining earlier that the song "one life stand" turned me off on the idea of the hot chip album, but "i feel better" more than makes up for it. tracks poll all kindsa wrong abt hot chip.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 February 2011 00:40 (fourteen years ago)

Wild Nothing? Expected to see it the middle of the list somewhere, so hopefully it's absence means that it hit the top 20?

i'm doubting this is terribly likely, though i would like to see it up there.

resigned to having v little of my ballot anywhere rly. if not for my half assed ariel pink votes there'd pretty much be nothing at all

bouquet brigade (electricsound), Thursday, 3 February 2011 00:44 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, metal and rap fans groan about not being represented well, but actual "indie" indie has no presence to speak of at all.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 00:51 (fourteen years ago)

Hey guys, I was out doing philosophy and fuxxorism so missed this, can't be arsed to do a rundown of what placed but just to say I now have ONE of my votes in the poll, and it was my #1. YESSSSS.

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 00:55 (fourteen years ago)

well, which was it?

rockapads, Thursday, 3 February 2011 01:02 (fourteen years ago)

Try guessing, it is fun. It wasn't Flockaveli, I will tell ye that much.

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 01:05 (fourteen years ago)

I know the answer, but I'm never gonna give it to you...

the worst dong of the last ten years (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 3 February 2011 01:06 (fourteen years ago)

What exactly is "indie" indie?

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 3 February 2011 01:06 (fourteen years ago)

actually one i'm really hoping to turn up is the voice of the seven thunders, i know it has some fans on here, but i'm not holding my breath..

bouquet brigade (electricsound), Thursday, 3 February 2011 01:07 (fourteen years ago)

I know the answer, but I'm never gonna give it to you...

― the worst dong of the last ten years (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, February 2, 2011 8:06 PM

is this a reference to h3art1and?

markers, Thursday, 3 February 2011 01:10 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, metal and rap fans groan about not being represented well, but actual "indie" indie has no presence to speak of at all.

Not really sure what "indie" indie is, but rap and metal are certainly well-represented compared to say jazz or any African music, neither of which has any representation in the top 100.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 01:12 (fourteen years ago)

*ding ding ding* We have a winner.

xpost

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 01:13 (fourteen years ago)

craigo boingo wins!

markers, Thursday, 3 February 2011 01:13 (fourteen years ago)

Well, to be fair, he is my boyfriend who is sitting in this very room right now, so I'd say you win more for at least getting the reference.

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 01:15 (fourteen years ago)

LOL! :D

markers, Thursday, 3 February 2011 01:15 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, metal and rap fans groan about not being represented well, but actual "indie" indie has no presence to speak of at all.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, February 2, 2011 4:51 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

dunno, man... 24 of 57 scan as "indie" to me (canonical schmindie bolded):

77. HARVEY MILK — A Small Turn of Human Kindness (240 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
74. ZOLA JESUS — Stridulum II (244 points, 10 votes)
73. THIRD EYE FOUNDATION — The Dark (246 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes)
71. THE TALLEST MAN ON EARTH — The Wild Hunt
70. WARPAINT — The Fool

69. SUN ARAW — On Patrol
68. NO AGE — Everything in Between
67. GAYNGS — Relayted

65. SUN CITY GIRLS — Funeral Mariachi
62. THE NATIONAL — High Violet
54. THE FALL — Your Future Our Clutter
53. RANGDA — False Flag
51. CRYSTAL CASTLES — Crystal Castles
48. DEERHUNTER — Halcyon Digest
43. SPOON — Transference
41. YEASAYER — Odd Blood
38. TITUS ANDRONICUS — The Monitor

37. THESE NEW PURITANS — Hidden
32. ARCADE FIRE — The Suburbs
29. HOT CHIP — One Life Stand
27. OWEN PALLETT — Heartland
25. SCHOOL OF SEVEN BELLS — Disconnect From Desire
22. GLASSER — Ring
21. JOANNA NEWSOM — Have One on Me

note that only seven of these 24 placed a song in the tracks poll

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 February 2011 01:15 (fourteen years ago)

i'd give you zola jesus and TEF out of that list, maybe SVIIB and deerhunter at a pinch. the rest, no.

bouquet brigade (electricsound), Thursday, 3 February 2011 01:18 (fourteen years ago)

Deerhunter, definitely. Would say also Spoon and Arcade Fire are sure things (though I haven't heard Spoon since about four albums back, maybe they're not any more). The Fall aren't really indie but they're something like proto-indie, so I'd count them.

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 01:26 (fourteen years ago)

77, 71, 65, 53, 51, 29 and 22 I would boggle at anyone who said they were indie, all the rest I could sort of see the reasoning even though I might disagree.

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 01:29 (fourteen years ago)

What exactly is "indie" indie?

See these threads:

Rolling punk / non-indie underground / pitchfork GTFO thread 2011
‘’Indie is the New Mainstream’’ – Rolling Indie Thread, 2011

I'm talking about bands on labels that release cassettes and 7" records and play house parties and whatever. Not The National.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 02:10 (fourteen years ago)

LOL at citing a thread with the words "non-indie" in the title as an example of what indie is

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 3 February 2011 02:17 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, that's kind of funny right?

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 02:18 (fourteen years ago)

anywho that's an oddly narrow definition of "indie" in 2011, and also it's pretty unlikely that a band that releases cassettes and 7-inches and plays house shows would be widely-known enough to make it onto an ILX end-of-year poll. you're basically setting yourself up to not find many indie bands on the list by defining indie that way, like a self-fulfilling prophecy.

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 3 February 2011 02:21 (fourteen years ago)

"Alternative indie" might be a better term.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 3 February 2011 02:22 (fourteen years ago)

I think it makes more sense to call that "undie" indie.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 3 February 2011 02:23 (fourteen years ago)

I was just trying to make a point. Like, I doubt I'd ever find myself voting for White Denim or Minks or whatever in one of these polls, but (and like seandalai pointed out re: African music and jazz) there are real clusters of music out there that are being overlooked while people complain here about only seeing 4 metal albums in a list of 77 releases.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 02:24 (fourteen years ago)

i think that's a fine point in general, but you're not doing it any favors by focusing on music that's deliberately obscure

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 3 February 2011 02:28 (fourteen years ago)

But your talking scale of operation not genre, unless underground indie is unrelated sonically to indie itself (which you can argue isn't a sonic genre either). The jazz argument is a different thing.

I mean, there are tons of tiny metal labels that function in a similar way to what you describe. I wouldn't say "indie" metal is a separate thing.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 3 February 2011 02:30 (fourteen years ago)

Fwiw, I don't think anyone's complained about there not being enough rap on here.

The Reverend, Thursday, 3 February 2011 02:38 (fourteen years ago)

I was just trying to make a point. Like, I doubt I'd ever find myself voting for White Denim or Minks or whatever in one of these polls, but (and like seandalai pointed out re: African music and jazz) there are real clusters of music out there that are being overlooked while people complain here about only seeing 4 metal albums in a list of 77 releases.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, February 2, 2011 6:24 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

thing is, metal is hugely popular. bands on columbus discount records just aren't. so i'm not at all surprised to see like agalloch and harvey milk (both of whom have a strong indie appeal), but i'd be fucking shocked if the bassholes, the rebel, no balls, funerot or even purling hiss placed. voted for all of those, btw, knowing full well that the gesture was a futile one...

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 February 2011 02:39 (fourteen years ago)

Fwiw, I don't think anyone's complained about there not being enough rap on here.

It's happened in years past, but I was just using it as a genre example (like metal). I should've said people complain about _____ and _____ not being represented, or even worse, the dreaded "too low" complaint. "Wah, an album I love that a lot of other people love too and cared enough to vote for made it into this countdown ahead of hundreds of others, but it's not high enough!"

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 02:42 (fourteen years ago)

I kind of feel like any indie that is 'proper' indie is pretty obscure to ILx these days, due to the proliferation of P4k indie/advertising indie/post-Britpop not even vaguely indie aside from for townies who say shit like like 'there's a new type of music and it's called indie' indie/Skins indie. Would call almost no band who fits into any of those actually indie. But at the same time saying that the definition is releasing 7s and tapes is kind of not it either.

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 02:44 (fourteen years ago)

^p much agree with that but i regret getting involved in this discussion regardless as 'definitions of indie'-type arguments make me want to self-immolate

bouquet brigade (electricsound), Thursday, 3 February 2011 02:45 (fourteen years ago)

Well, to be fair, he is my boyfriend who is sitting in this very room right now

lol emil.y for a sec i thought u meant øwen was yr boyfriend and i was all ¯\(°_o)/¯ whaaaaaaaa

then i lol'd

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 02:46 (fourteen years ago)

Why do simple things always turn into clusterfucks here?

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 02:46 (fourteen years ago)

son this ain't no clusterfuck

Bearenthetical Grylls (some dude), Thursday, 3 February 2011 02:47 (fourteen years ago)

*removes a weed from mouth*
*spits*
*grinds spit into dirt with cowboy boot*

J0rdan S., Thursday, 3 February 2011 02:50 (fourteen years ago)

I'm talking about bands on labels that release cassettes and 7" records and play house parties and whatever. Not The National.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, February 2, 2011 9:10 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i'm p. confused as to why these things would appear on this list?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 02:50 (fourteen years ago)

They don't, and they likely never will. And no one really complains about it, either. But people do complain about other things, and that was the point I was making (although, it clearly was never made).

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 02:52 (fourteen years ago)

haha Johnny now I feel bad about complaining re: Sun City Girls! For me it's more the harsh reality that albums or tracks you thought were so obviously contenders end up as also-rans. It can be really disappointing when consensus reality smacks you upside your oh-so-eclectic tastes (self-criticism intended). But like you say the context is important, it's not like my #1 was buried back in the 120's. Now THAT would be too low.

sleeve, Thursday, 3 February 2011 02:53 (fourteen years ago)

xp ok--yeah, we could get into a whole thing about the relative popularity of purling hiss and high on fire but lets not do that.

i find the whole concept of "complaining" about this list completely weird anyway.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 02:54 (fourteen years ago)

yeah shit yeah son you call this a clusterfuck?

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 February 2011 03:01 (fourteen years ago)

I've apparently never been involved in a real ILX clusterfuck. Sounds like fun!

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 03:04 (fourteen years ago)

Hey guys what did I miss

Cyclone Yazoo (Trayce), Thursday, 3 February 2011 03:08 (fourteen years ago)

Just a kerfuffle. No clusterfuck.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 03:13 (fourteen years ago)

28. LAURA MARLING — I Speak Because I Can (516 points, 15 votes, 2 first place votes)
P&J: 80th
Pitchfork: DNP

Is it churlish of me to point out the relative meaningless of an album not placing in the Pitchfork poll of 2010's top 50 albums when it came 28 in the ILX poll and 80 in the P&J poll?

Tim F, Thursday, 3 February 2011 03:14 (fourteen years ago)

Dude. Somebodys rocking a parody of my ilm handle. I feel like I've finally arrived.

Parenthetical Grillz, Thursday, 3 February 2011 03:17 (fourteen years ago)

Um... not churlish but I'm not sure what the point is? It's not like they just chose that one album to compare to Pitchfork's list, and it's been a long-standing ilx poll thing to do those comparisons.

xpost

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 03:18 (fourteen years ago)

Emily I was talking about the odd debate upthread w/r/t whether Pitchfork's opinion of Laura Marling was better reflected by the 8.1 score it received in review or the fact that it DNP.

Tim F, Thursday, 3 February 2011 03:19 (fourteen years ago)

Oh, right. Yeah, neither actually matters!

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 03:20 (fourteen years ago)

none of this matters

rockapads, Thursday, 3 February 2011 04:05 (fourteen years ago)

it matters so much

i do think theres a strain or i guess subgenre of 'indie' that doesnt really get rep'd or mentioned in ilx polls. jangle-y, simple lo-fi guitar pop sort of stuff like wild nothing or beach fossils or seapony or tennis or whomever thats hardly an less accessible or obscure than rangda or emeralds or zola jesus or w/e. & it does feel like these bands have little to nothing to do w/ like the national or arcade fire style indie formally or emotionally.

i mean i like this type of music & voted for a couple of lo-fi indie albums i thought were special but it is mostly a tracks genre - all those cassettes and 7"s lol - but it fares poorly there too. idk its not like ilx eoy polls wld be 'better' if this stuff was better liked, but it is a real blind spot

Prom Dressantino 2011 (Lamp), Thursday, 3 February 2011 04:11 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i mean...there are a hundred little subdivisions of indie falling in and out of favor every year. doesn't mean anything that some kind of indie bands show up on the list and others don't, it's still indie.

Bearenthetical Grylls (some dude), Thursday, 3 February 2011 04:15 (fourteen years ago)

you're... mostly wrong but i dont really care enough to argue

Prom Dressantino 2011 (Lamp), Thursday, 3 February 2011 04:20 (fourteen years ago)

about which part? or all of it? i mean if you don't wanna get into it fair enough.

Bearenthetical Grylls (some dude), Thursday, 3 February 2011 04:25 (fourteen years ago)

as ilx's resident "there's too much indie" expert, even i'd say you'd have to be a real aspie to complain that this list isn't diverse enough

odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 3 February 2011 04:47 (fourteen years ago)

haha i just dont know how worthwhile it is to argue over - i guess it 'means something' to the extent that it 'means something' that there are distincit subdivisions of rap or rnb or metal or dance that ilx tends to swoon over & others that are ignored. like obv these partic distinctions are meaningless to someone who h8s all indie music but im not sure these tendencies are any less interesting or worthwhile to interrogate than discussing why im the only person that voted for swedish house mafia shit

your probably right in that part of this is just going to be cyclical or faddish or w/e & is meaningless on a macro lvl

Prom Dressantino 2011 (Lamp), Thursday, 3 February 2011 04:47 (fourteen years ago)

i voted for miami 2 ibiza

flopson, Thursday, 3 February 2011 04:49 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i mean there's definitely a lot subtext going on to what subset of any genre tends to get love on year-end lists here or anywhere else. i just think it's kinda funny to hear that 'real indie' gets snubbed the same way someone might complain about a lack of true metal or serious hip hop or whatever.

am i supposedly "someone who h8s all indie music" or is that a total strawman thing

Bearenthetical Grylls (some dude), Thursday, 3 February 2011 04:51 (fourteen years ago)

who is saying "real indie" got snubbed? All those worthless blog records like "The National" still made the list

odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 3 February 2011 04:53 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, metal and rap fans groan about not being represented well, but actual "indie" indie has no presence to speak of at all.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, February 2, 2011 4:51 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

What exactly is "indie" indie?

See these threads:

Rolling punk / non-indie underground / pitchfork GTFO thread 2011
‘’Indie is the New Mainstream’’ – Rolling Indie Thread, 2011

I'm talking about bands on labels that release cassettes and 7" records and play house parties and whatever. Not The National.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, February 2, 2011 9:10 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

Bearenthetical Grylls (some dude), Thursday, 3 February 2011 04:55 (fourteen years ago)

i mean, i really would wish we would start using my term "avant-indie" to separate Sun Araw/Emeralds/Sun City Girls from like National/Warpaint/Spoon but that concept appararantly is too "narcissism of small differences" for posters on ILX who can somehow know the diff between "backpacker rap" and "hood rap" in a deej post without asking for 3000 posts of clarification and nitpicking

odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 3 February 2011 04:56 (fourteen years ago)

i voted for miami 2 ibiza

haha me too - thats probably why you were my 'most similar' on the tracks list... that was a tedious way of phrasing things, i mostly used it as example bcuz i remembered a longish series of posts on some thread abt 'why don't critics/ilx care about mainstream club music'

am i supposedly "someone who h8s all indie music" or is that a total strawman thing

exaggerating for effect but i mean it certainly appears to be a 'genre' (um) that you dont care for & arent attuned to

"real indie" is a dumm way of classifying it but ugh i guess i shouldnt even

Prom Dressantino 2011 (Lamp), Thursday, 3 February 2011 04:57 (fourteen years ago)

But I ALSO said

I should've said people complain about _____ and _____ not being represented, or even worse, the dreaded "too low" complaint. "Wah, an album I love that a lot of other people love too and cared enough to vote for made it into this countdown ahead of hundreds of others, but it's not high enough!"

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, February 2, 2011 9:42 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 04:57 (fourteen years ago)

"Indie" indie was just a placeholder, and THEN I got asked to clarify something I was wasn't really trying to stan for in the first place.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 04:58 (fourteen years ago)

I think of grouping prfoky stuff as "avant-indie" or "trad indie" should make sense to most ppl, but \O_o/

lol semantics

odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 3 February 2011 04:59 (fourteen years ago)

i mean, i really would wish we would start using my term

The beginning of whiney's music critic hegemony, we're all here for it.

w/no hesitation (mh), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:00 (fourteen years ago)

am i supposedly "someone who h8s all indie music" or is that a total strawman thing

exaggerating for effect but i mean it certainly appears to be a 'genre' (um) that you dont care for & arent attuned to

― Prom Dressantino 2011 (Lamp), Wednesday, February 2, 2011 11:57 PM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark

yeah there's no way to not be all 'check my resume' or scolding you for not having an intimate knowledge of my record collection but that's pretty silly. but i mostly come to ILM to discuss music people here are already listening to and not so much to push all the random off-the-radar stuff i listen to on other people, and since there aren't any threads about most of the dozens of indie records i listened to last year i haven't really talked about them here.

Bearenthetical Grylls (some dude), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:01 (fourteen years ago)

i don't care what anyone fucking calls it but as someone who identifies themselves as 'indie' i hate it when things like the national and spoon and fucking warpaint are the sort of things people think represent this identification.

bouquet brigade (electricsound), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:02 (fourteen years ago)

and metal fans often hate the biggest metal bands and rap fans often hate the biggest rapper. who gives a fuck?

Bearenthetical Grylls (some dude), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:03 (fourteen years ago)

fair enough

bouquet brigade (electricsound), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:03 (fourteen years ago)

Who are the current "biggest indie band" and "biggest indie artist"? Vampire Weekend and Sufjan?

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:04 (fourteen years ago)

Or maybe Florence and the Machine for artist? And would that apply internationally?

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:04 (fourteen years ago)

well by sales its prob like arcade fire right?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:04 (fourteen years ago)

wtf is warpaint /arcadefirevoter

Gukbe, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:04 (fourteen years ago)

Florence is not indie

Gukbe, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:04 (fourteen years ago)

xp whiney-- einh the only one of those three i would reluctantly accept as avant indie is scg, i resent the term "indie" absorbing acts that are pretty easily fit into other existing genres (sun araw psych, emeralds ambient/drone) just because the internet suddenly realizes they exist. i find its really stupid & myopic

flopson, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:05 (fourteen years ago)

Florence isn't indie? What is she?

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:05 (fourteen years ago)

big chart star in the UK + totally fucking pwned in the Quietus = not indie

Gukbe, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:05 (fourteen years ago)

however

ik doesn't count = indie

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:06 (fourteen years ago)

uk*

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:06 (fourteen years ago)

also i'm pretty sure arcade fire and Vamp wknd are roughly equivalent in album sales... Arcade Fire MIGHT have a bigger live draw tho

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:06 (fourteen years ago)

in us, florence is still indie though i think she's poised to hop outta that ghetto this year

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:07 (fourteen years ago)

so when people say 'ugh indie' they actually mean things that sell relatively well/get live sessions on npr

Gukbe, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:08 (fourteen years ago)

lol i feel like ppl who are uncomfortable with all this shit being called "indie" are basically trying to feel better about their taste

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:08 (fourteen years ago)

so when people say 'ugh indie' they actually mean things that sell relatively well/get live sessions on npr

― Gukbe, Thursday, February 3, 2011 12:08 AM (36 seconds ago)

duh

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:09 (fourteen years ago)

also just cuz i don't know where else to put this but since we're talking pop/indie, i am loving this two door cinema club single right now

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:09 (fourteen years ago)

we've had what 1000000 threads on how indie = mainstream or whatever

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:09 (fourteen years ago)

indie = independent label by definition, so anyone who's not on a major label is an "indie artist"
well aware that's not the vernacular, but if you go by letter of the law, Florence is absolutely indie

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:10 (fourteen years ago)

anyways, having avoided that kind of clusterfuck nomenclature argument up till now, i have no idea why i'd want to stir the shit so http://asset-server.libsyn.com/item/k-06f36c0e73cc7bbb/assets/RIP_Grand_Galactic_Inquisitor.jpg

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:11 (fourteen years ago)

lol i feel like ppl who are uncomfortable with all this shit being called "indie" are basically trying to feel better about their taste

this doesn't make sense

bouquet brigade (electricsound), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:12 (fourteen years ago)

Who are the current "biggest indie band" and "biggest indie artist"?

All of these bands have debuted at #1 on Billboard within the past three years:

Death Cab for Cutie
Vampire Weekend
Arcade Fire
Decemberists

Death Cab and the Decemberists reached #1 while on major labels, but both started on indie labels and are often thought of as "indie-rock" bands.

Tyler/Perry's "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" (jaymc), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:13 (fourteen years ago)

xp why? they're just trying to segregate the arcade weekend bands so they can claim they listen to whatever the fuck lamp listens to or something

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:13 (fourteen years ago)

How about the indie individual standard bearer? Still Surfin?

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:14 (fourteen years ago)

i resent the term "indie" absorbing acts that are pretty easily fit into other existing genres (sun araw psych, emeralds ambient/drone) just because the internet suddenly realizes they exist. i find its really stupid & myopic

feelin' this ^^

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:14 (fourteen years ago)

yeah there's no way to not be all 'check my resume' or scolding you for not having an intimate knowledge of my record collection but that's pretty silly.

yah sorry honestly other than sonic youth & random bmore stuff i always assume your a rigid populist.

and metal fans often hate the biggest metal bands and rap fans often hate the biggest rapper

like im p ok w/ having whiney and jordan and whoever sneer @ me but my interest in 'defining' indie isnt abt positioning myself against whats popular or 'uncool' in some 'if it love it cant be indie' but in tracing the path that various strands of this music have taken & finding places where a subgenre has started to create its own lineage & vocabulary. which is the kind of distinction i was trying to make upthread but w/e

which is why i kinda h8 whiney's 'avant-indie' thing bcuz it still feels like a way of using extramusical divsions to quarantine the stuff he likes away from 'dreadful' 'uncool' indie like the national

Prom Dressantino 2011 (Lamp), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:15 (fourteen years ago)

xp yeah you would

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:15 (fourteen years ago)

are the gripes about arcade weekend placing on these lists really all about "ya'll aren't trying hard enough"?

Gukbe, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:16 (fourteen years ago)

which is why i kinda h8 whiney's 'avant-indie' thing bcuz it still feels like a way of using extramusical divsions to quarantine the stuff he likes away from 'dreadful' 'uncool' indie like the national

― Prom Dressantino 2011 (Lamp), Thursday, February 3, 2011 12:15 AM (16 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yup!!!

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:16 (fourteen years ago)

lol i feel like ppl who are uncomfortable with all this shit being called "indie" are basically trying to feel better about their taste

― call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:08 (1 minute ago) Bookmark

well i mean theres definitely a dimension of this to it, but honestly i don't think i would mind except in the most extreme cases. have you heard emeralds or sun araw? it's p distinctly not w/in the general tradition of indie & as much as so as, like, curren$y or flying lotus. i think it's lame that the main determinant of the genre in some ppl's minds is internet constellations

flopson, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:16 (fourteen years ago)

There was a time a few years ago when I very much thought that Sufjan was the standard bearer of what 21st century indie rock had come to represent, but I'm not sure that that's the same as "biggest indie artist," and I wouldn't necessarily make that claim about him today.

Tyler/Perry's "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" (jaymc), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:16 (fourteen years ago)

indie needs a nuum

Gukbe, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:17 (fourteen years ago)

xp dude i voted for emeralds. there is prob a useful distinction between them and the nat'l but on this board ppl would purely use that to be like "i don't listen to any lol npr music"

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:18 (fourteen years ago)

hmm i think i am a bit confused abt who is adressing who

flopson, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:19 (fourteen years ago)

I listen to a lot of trad indie stuff (Titus Andronicus, frightened rabbit, etc). So try again o heroes of genre identity

odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:22 (fourteen years ago)

It seems like everyone here is pinning characteristics on everyone else and nobody's right about anything.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:23 (fourteen years ago)

probably. i just don't like the national really

bouquet brigade (electricsound), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:25 (fourteen years ago)

There's some good back-and-forth between xhuxk and Nabisco in this thread (from 8 years ago!) about the usefulness of "indie"/"indie rock" as an umbrella term.

Tyler/Perry's "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" (jaymc), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:26 (fourteen years ago)

It's garbage but look, it's the "alternative" or "college rock" or "post modern" of our times. And if record stores existed they would straight up file Florence, sufjan, emeralds and Lamp bands all under INDIE.

odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:28 (fourteen years ago)

I listen to a lot of trad indie stuff (Titus Andronicus, frightened rabbit, etc). So try again o heroes of genre identity

my post wasnt really intended as a fuck you although it kinda reads that way - not convinced that your division is partic 'organic' but i understand the basic distinction you're trying to make & think its worthwhile

ive tried to be p clear & reasonable in my posts but no deej-o imma give this up now w/e coupla steps closer to 51

Prom Dressantino 2011 (Lamp), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:30 (fourteen years ago)

what about the band "Lamps"

flopson, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:30 (fourteen years ago)

Which doesn't mean we can't break it down, but like being all "b-b-but endless boogie is PSYCH" just makes you sound like a pedant or a Jagger, so dealwithit.gif

odd taran wild'n gang killam all (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:30 (fourteen years ago)

xp i guess that's it--everyone is picking a little from column a, a little from column b (and columns c, d, and e if you have to go there)

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:30 (fourteen years ago)

like if i like the nat'l and emeralds, and you like titus and rangda, there is nothing remotely useful about that information

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:32 (fourteen years ago)

i feel we have come to a p nice synthesis here

flopson, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:33 (fourteen years ago)

if it were real life this would be the moment where everybody takes a sip of beer nods and doesnt speak for a few seconds

flopson, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:33 (fourteen years ago)

*does this*

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:35 (fourteen years ago)

mmm beer

sleeve, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:36 (fourteen years ago)

It seems like a lot of the indie that makes lists like this is on the bigger labels....labels like Drag City, XL Recordings, Domino, Merge, Rough Trade, 4AD, all of whom are represented by two or more albums already appearing on this list....and not the stuff from smaller labels like Captured Tracks, Wierd, Sacred Bones, Carpark, Stiltbreeze, Olde English Spelling Bee, Tri-Angle, Social Registry, etc.

I'm not sure that's necessarily true of the other genres represented here. A lot of the hip hop in this list is stuff that's self-released, isn't it?

Dan S, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:40 (fourteen years ago)

nah

flopson, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:42 (fourteen years ago)

well did olde english spelling bee put out something this year that belongs on this list? cause that would be news to me.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:44 (fourteen years ago)

flockaveli & revenue retrievin are warnerbros asylum & jive respectively, gucci & krit are in theory self released mixtapes but both have major label contracts, & same goes for the rest

flopson, Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:47 (fourteen years ago)

well did olde english spelling bee put out something this year that belongs on this list? cause that would be news to me.

forest swords album/ep is the "big" one this year (it's pretty good if yr into that sorta thing)

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 05:48 (fourteen years ago)

Earl Sweatshirt & Tyler, the Creator are all the way independent. Pretty sure Big KRIT and (the mixtape version of) still-to-place Yelawolf were not yet signed as of those releases.

The Reverend, Thursday, 3 February 2011 06:34 (fourteen years ago)

Gratified to see Heartland in the company of such great effin records, thanks guys.

ARP 2600 vs. Atari 2600 (Ówen P.), Thursday, 3 February 2011 06:41 (fourteen years ago)

hmm that conversation on indie was clear as mud to me.

zvookster, Thursday, 3 February 2011 07:48 (fourteen years ago)

24. WAKA FLOCKA FLAME — Flockaveli (558 points, 20 votes, 1 first place vote)
23. M.I.A. — /\/\ /\ Y /\ (560 points, 18 votes, 1 first place vote)
19-1somehwere. KANYE - SOME SHITTY IMAGINATION + MINAJ AND PUSHA T

FUCK YOU NON GOONS, WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU

if there is a King Kenny, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 3 February 2011 10:04 (fourteen years ago)

i'm still hopeful that diddy and maybe yelawolf will place ahead of kanye - remember he only got one track into the top 20

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 10:11 (fourteen years ago)

He also got four or five singles into the top 77 and I'd guess most of the people who voted for any of them will vote for the album. The only rapper in with a chance of finishing above Kanye is Big Boi.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 10:13 (fourteen years ago)

Not really sure what "indie" indie is, but rap and metal are certainly well-represented compared to say jazz or any African music, neither of which has any representation in the top 100.

― Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 01:12 (8 hours ago) Bookmark

The lack of African music on the list is a bit sad, cos even if you have no interest in more traditional African styles, there have been some great releases in 2010 that are totally in sync with indie or leftfield dance music tastes: the Shangaan Electro comp, the Ayobaness! comp, further retro goodies like the World Ends and Afro Beat Airways comps, more stuff from Konono No 1, even the Tradi-Mods Vs. Rockers thing...

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 3 February 2011 10:34 (fourteen years ago)

I'm kicking myself for not voting for Ayobaness! - that record is start-to-finish banging but I didn't notice it on the ballot.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 10:39 (fourteen years ago)

Track of the year should have been 90 mins of vuvuzela noise btw.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 3 February 2011 10:40 (fourteen years ago)

Meh. I love the few African sounds I have heard and love jazz as a whole but I struggle to keep up with the genre I follow the most (hip-hop), let alone indie or pop or house, let alone genres that have the smallest coverage. You can complain about it and maybe it is good that people try to encourage more African music or whatever but meh.

if there is a King Kenny, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 3 February 2011 10:41 (fourteen years ago)

There isn't really a big African music contingent on ILM compared to, say, metal or hip-hop. Goon crew influence on this year's poll has pushed a lot of rap music into the lists but I don't really believe it represents a banner year with more good rap than the previous five or six years, it's a change in dynamic on the board.

If we suddenly get 25 new posters with a passionate interest in African music it'll change again, but on the other hand it's a big continent with a lot of diverse musics - generally not the best conditions for doing well in a consensus poll.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 10:53 (fourteen years ago)

I dunno, I think concensus amongst goons is 2010 as a kind of another year zero w/ new 'indie' artists not just being mixtape suckaz or ruined by major labels and just doing things for themselves incl. production, rapping, making sure art & vids are cool etc. etc. or at least compared to kanye and tip and jeezy not being able to get a record out and rebirth etc.

if there is a King Kenny, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 3 February 2011 10:55 (fourteen years ago)

All very true. Guess that Die Antwoord will be the highest placing African record? xp

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 3 February 2011 10:58 (fourteen years ago)

I dunno, I think concensus amongst goons is 2010 as a kind of another year zero w/ new 'indie' artists not just being mixtape suckaz or ruined by major labels and just doing things for themselves incl. production, rapping, making sure art & vids are cool etc. etc. or at least compared to kanye and tip and jeezy not being able to get a record out and rebirth etc.

Yeah but they're here to make sure that consensus is represented here in the first place, which isn't necessarily the case for other genres that might be going through similarly exciting periods.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 11:01 (fourteen years ago)

fair point

if there is a King Kenny, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 3 February 2011 11:03 (fourteen years ago)

Gratified to see Heartland in the company of such great effin records, thanks guys.

― ARP 2600 vs. Atari 2600 (Ówen P.), Thursday, February 3, 2011 1:41 AM (4 hours ago)

Always forget he'll still drop in from time to time.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 11:22 (fourteen years ago)

I can't remember where I placed it when I hastily put my list together but Heartland is the *best* record of the year, absolutely flawless and I think I only had it at #2 because my #1 has a song I listened to like 800 times in the past year and most of it is great (Heartland has no moments I want to skip unlike my #1, which has a bit of filler between some of my favourite songs ever.)

if there is a King Kenny, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 3 February 2011 11:29 (fourteen years ago)

The number of first place votes making the list so far seemed to me abnormally high (38 #1 votes out of 57 records!) so I compared with last year's albums poll.

The 2009 list comprised 100 ballots compared with, what 120+ this time? And there was only a Top 50 rather than a Top 77. Also, I don't know what the ranked:unranked ballots ratio was this year or last.

But anyway, of the 2009 Top 50, there were only something like 52 #1 votes placing in total, over half of which were allocated to records that made the Top 10, as you might expect.

I'm not sure what this means. But it strikes me we must be "running low" on our fair share of #1 votes for this Top 77.

So - more albums in the Top 20 this year that lots of people liked but few really really loved?

Jeff W, Thursday, 3 February 2011 11:34 (fourteen years ago)

w/o giving anything away really, I'll say that 16 of the top 20 have one or more first place votes.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 11:52 (fourteen years ago)

In these kind of polls, whenever I see a band I've never heard of with a "weird" multi-word name, like "These New Puritans" or "School of Seven Bells" or "Titus Andronicus", I automatically assume it's indie rock. So to me it looks like ILM polls are always dominated by indie.

Speaking of names, what the heck does the "waka flocka" part in Waka Flocka Flame mean? Is it some slang thing I don't get?

Tuomas, Thursday, 3 February 2011 12:34 (fourteen years ago)

william shakespeare and his weird indie rock titles

just sayin, Thursday, 3 February 2011 12:38 (fourteen years ago)

I take it there isn't a remote chance of Autechre placing on this poll now, huh?

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Thursday, 3 February 2011 12:48 (fourteen years ago)

Wili Shaka Flame

if there is a King Kenny, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 3 February 2011 12:48 (fourteen years ago)

smh @ tuomas associating phrases like "school of seven bells" and "titus andronicus" with indie

WAKA's first name is joaquin, fyi

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 12:53 (fourteen years ago)

I don't get it, does that somehow explain the "waka flocka" bit?

Tuomas, Thursday, 3 February 2011 12:59 (fourteen years ago)

oh my god just THINK before you post "i don't get it"

THINK about how joaquin is pronounced

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 13:02 (fourteen years ago)

Joh-uh-kin, I think.

Tuomas, Thursday, 3 February 2011 13:04 (fourteen years ago)

At least in Spanish, don't know how Americans pronounce it. Still don't see what that has to do with waka flocka, I'm sorry.

Tuomas, Thursday, 3 February 2011 13:05 (fourteen years ago)

in Spanish (and American English) it's hwa-KEEN

acid druthers temple (crüt), Thursday, 3 February 2011 13:06 (fourteen years ago)

ILM discourse on the semantics of "indie" have been long, plentiful, pedantic and ongoing since this board started.

It's all subjective depending on your tastes and location. If you live in Portland and trade limited 7"es over the internet, you're going to have a completely different idea of what "indie" means than if you live in, say, Salford and like going to Boon Army or whatever.

Like someone mentioned upthread, indie's a continuum with as many facets and sub-genres as dance or metal or hip-hop; including indie-dance, noise, Britpop, psych, NME-rock, freak-folk blahblahblah. There's no dividing line as to what is and isn't indie. People who only listen to the radio and don't buy records think of Coldplay as indie, and I kind of know where they're coming from since Oasis begat Coldplay and Madchester begat Oasis.

Indie's not so much a genre to file bands under; it's a sensibility going back to punk attitude, defined perhaps by an ostensible detraction from the mainstream in some shape or form. Again the lines are blurred. Are Florence & the Machine indie? It's debatable. She falls somewhere between alt-rocker, popstar and singer-songwriter, so there's an element of indie. It's not a binary thing imo.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Thursday, 3 February 2011 13:10 (fourteen years ago)

or it just means "stuff le and tuomas don't like".

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Thursday, 3 February 2011 13:11 (fourteen years ago)

*lex

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Thursday, 3 February 2011 13:11 (fourteen years ago)

The internet says that flocka is from 'flaco' (Spanish for 'skinny'). Is the internet right?

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 3 February 2011 13:13 (fourteen years ago)

yeah kind of. mizay ent. (the co. run by his aunt) said that gucci started calling him waka flocka, which is sort of bastardized spanish for skinny joaquin (joaquin flacco). but the most common explanation is that it resembles the sound of a gun being cocked.

zvookster, Thursday, 3 February 2011 13:14 (fourteen years ago)

in Spanish (and American English) it's hwa-KEEN

I'm pretty sure Spaniards don't pronounce the "qin" bit with a double vowel? So it's more like "kin".

Tuomas, Thursday, 3 February 2011 13:18 (fourteen years ago)

difference btwn mexican spanish and spanish spanish perhaps?

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Thursday, 3 February 2011 13:20 (fourteen years ago)

nope xp, never heard that in S America or the US

sleeve, Thursday, 3 February 2011 13:20 (fourteen years ago)

mizay ent. (the co. run by his aunt)

his mother! (debra antney, the woman who basically discovered nicki minaj and gucci mane.)

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 13:23 (fourteen years ago)

The Spanish "i" is pronounced like the "ee" in the word "see," except that the sound is shorter.
http://www.studyspanish.com/pronunciation/vowel_i.htm

Tyler/Perry's "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" (jaymc), Thursday, 3 February 2011 13:25 (fourteen years ago)

lol this isn't really relevant to waka is it ppl

zvookster, Thursday, 3 February 2011 13:30 (fourteen years ago)

okay, i know i'm ruining everyone's good time but: TUOMAS: "Waka Flocka" is the sound of the gun cocking and "Flame" is the gun going off.
Yes, it is also a take on his name. No, it is not self-explanatory. I'm sure he was called "Wocka" as a kid and Gucci popped the gun sounds shit on when he started doing mixtapes. He also went by the name Waka LeBron Flocka Flame. Lebron James is a popular basketball player.

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2011 13:33 (fourteen years ago)

my bad lex, thx for correction. she has ant in her name, what does she expect from me

zvookster, Thursday, 3 February 2011 13:39 (fourteen years ago)

yeah there's no way to not be all 'check my resume' or scolding you for not having an intimate knowledge of my record collection but that's pretty silly.

yah sorry honestly other than sonic youth & random bmore stuff i always assume your a rigid populist.

and metal fans often hate the biggest metal bands and rap fans often hate the biggest rapper

like im p ok w/ having whiney and jordan and whoever sneer @ me but my interest in 'defining' indie isnt abt positioning myself against whats popular or 'uncool' in some 'if it love it cant be indie' but in tracing the path that various strands of this music have taken & finding places where a subgenre has started to create its own lineage & vocabulary. which is the kind of distinction i was trying to make upthread but w/e

which is why i kinda h8 whiney's 'avant-indie' thing bcuz it still feels like a way of using extramusical divsions to quarantine the stuff he likes away from 'dreadful' 'uncool' indie like the national

― Prom Dressantino 2011 (Lamp), Thursday, February 3, 2011 12:15 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i'm cool with ethan and the lex, but it's unfortunate that their respective legacies of hilarious scorched earth anti-indie crusading have kinda left this board completely paranoid and over-sensitive about anyone else pointing out that, hey, indie rock isn't the center of the universe and it's OK to suggest that ILM or Pazz & Jop or whatever could stand broaden its perspective further outside of it. so by even daring to try to have that kind of conversation, people assume I'm some kind of extremist or I'm trying to push certain music aside more than let other stuff in. and that kind of ties into my disagreement with deej where he kind of approaches ILM as everything he listens to and likes has to be posted about, which just seems like an exhausting idea to me so people that only know me from my posts here get a skewed idea of my taste.

there's some definite weirdness in every different distinct genre that gets some kind of bloggy/pitchfork exposure gets grandfathered into 'indie,' but as i said in a recent post, if something is played with rock instruments, is on an indie label, and isn't part of some rock tradition that's very distinct from indie (hardcore punk, metal), i tend to think really insisting it's not indie borders on hair-splitting.

Bearenthetical Grylls (some dude), Thursday, 3 February 2011 14:06 (fourteen years ago)

^^ otm

flopson, Thursday, 3 February 2011 14:35 (fourteen years ago)

smh @ tuomas associating phrases like "school of seven bells" and "titus andronicus" with indie

assuming that "The band is named after the School of the Seven Bells, a mythical South American pickpocket training academy.[1]" is accurate, I can't say it reached my radar before I looked it up just now

Rogaine's a hell of a rug (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 3 February 2011 14:35 (fourteen years ago)

ILM discourse on the semantics of "indie" have been long, plentiful, pedantic and ongoing since this board started.

new board description plz

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 14:54 (fourteen years ago)

if something is played with rock instruments, is on an indie label, and isn't part of some rock tradition that's very distinct from indie (hardcore punk, metal), i tend to think really insisting it's not indie borders on hair-splitting.
― Bearenthetical Grylls (some dude), Thursday, February 3, 2011

that's funny because i was just trying to figure out what's indie abt various acts on contenderizor's list upthread, specifically the national and the arcade fire. are they not just rock bands? are they too angular, or do they have too many diff strategies in arrangement and songwriting? are they unpolished or lo-fi? is it that rock is reserved for bands that actually rock, i mean that are heavier, and, i guess, groovier?

gayngs, how are they indie and not, say, pastiche blue eyed soul? i don't really have the vocabulary perhaps, but i think u guys could prob say they are this and that.

if we reject "anything on an indie label" as too broad to be meaningful, then maybe the national and arcade fire are indie and not just plain rock because it once seemed they were making music for a limited audience, of a limited appeal, whereas a just plain rock band could potentially rule the world.

zvookster, Thursday, 3 February 2011 14:58 (fourteen years ago)

Oh jings crivens. zvookster, Gayngs can be pastiche blue-eyed soul and still be indie. See my post upthread.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:04 (fourteen years ago)

lol jings crivens

i read yr post & it was dull platitudes iirc but i'll read it again

zvookster, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:06 (fourteen years ago)

yeah idk it doesn't seem like a particularly good post, why don't u apply it to these acts i wonder abt specifically

zvookster, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:08 (fourteen years ago)

its Jings Crivvens!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:09 (fourteen years ago)

help ma boab!

jed_, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:11 (fourteen years ago)

Ir ye black-affronted with it, jed?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:12 (fourteen years ago)

still from last year.

jed_, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:13 (fourteen years ago)

xposts If it's dull platitudes, it's because the whole "is it indie?" debate is one long dull platitude that is essentially meaningless. Indie used to mean "independent" as in independent label, and was quickly adopted by critics and fans to mean a certain brand of alternative rock that didn't fit into punk or post-punk or MOR. But this was back in the stone-age and things have moved on and stuff that uses all those indie tropes is now released on huge labels while plenty of commercial pop comes out on so-called independents. There's no rule, and there shouldn't be a rule because music doesn't conform to the same parameters as it did in 1986. As far as I see it, "indie" has now become lazy, derogatory shorthand for "music made by white people".

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:14 (fourteen years ago)

I don't want to apply my argument to Gayngs, Arcade Fire or whoever. Way I see it, they have a certain amount of indieness-quotient, but saying "such-and-such" is or isn't indie, is like arguing whether a certain track is or isn't dance.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:18 (fourteen years ago)

Still catching up on this thread, but I am loving how we've come full circle and now some of you are bitching about there not being ENOUGH indie on this poll. Oh, ILX, you are a fickle beast.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:27 (fourteen years ago)

that's funny because i was just trying to figure out what's indie abt various acts on contenderizor's list upthread, specifically the national and the arcade fire. are they not just rock bands? are they too angular, or do they have too many diff strategies in arrangement and songwriting? are they unpolished or lo-fi? is it that rock is reserved for bands that actually rock, i mean that are heavier, and, i guess, groovier?

gayngs, how are they indie and not, say, pastiche blue eyed soul? i don't really have the vocabulary perhaps, but i think u guys could prob say they are this and that.

if we reject "anything on an indie label" as too broad to be meaningful, then maybe the national and arcade fire are indie and not just plain rock because it once seemed they were making music for a limited audience, of a limited appeal, whereas a just plain rock band could potentially rule the world.

― zvookster, Thursday, February 3, 2011 9:58 AM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i dunno man, Arcade Fire and The National both seem to come from a lineage that would've been called post-punk or college rock in another decade but gets called indie now, both have recorded for labels that loom large over indie rock like Merge, 4AD and Beggars Banquet. do they get less indie because of how successful they are now (even without jumping to majors) or are you saying they were never anything but straight up rock bands?

xpost lol sorry jon

Bearenthetical Grylls (some dude), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:32 (fourteen years ago)

like i've seriously never in the almost decade AF and the National have been around seen their essential indie-ness called into question and it feels like kind of a retcon to do it now.

Bearenthetical Grylls (some dude), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:33 (fourteen years ago)

I thought "indie" itself wasn't a genre but an intensifying verb, i.e. "indie dance", used to suggest that the music described does not contain the signifiers of a capital-oriented cultural enterprise. These signifiers are plain as day in mainstream hip-hop, R&B, or mainstream rock acts like AF or The National.

Although a "rock" band seeks to maintain the same artistic practise from the days when they were "indie rock", there are administrative mechanisms that have (necessarily) been put in place that make them undefinable as "indie" any more. There are those who might describe such a band as "not indie" but I don't think you can expect a rock band who sells out stadiums to somehow, magically, remain divorced from any sort of business dealings.

And yeah, the usage of "indie" to refer to "privileged white dudes from Brooklyn", I definitely follow *why* that usage might be put in place-- having spent time in Brooklyn I can get sympathize with Whiney's "white privilege" vitriol, even if I disagree with the language he uses. But the most "indie" record of all of these ones listed above is the Sweatshirt Earl record, to my ears, at least.

ARP 2600 vs. Atari 2600 (Ówen P.), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:34 (fourteen years ago)

Ready for Johnny to start today's countdown so we can stop arguing about the definition of "indie" again.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:35 (fourteen years ago)

Ready for Johnny to start today's countdown so we can stop arguing about the definition of "indie" again.

Please!

skip, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:36 (fourteen years ago)

I'm here, so I guess I'll start about a half hour earlier than usual just to steer this thread in a different direction. Coming right up...

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:37 (fourteen years ago)

What are the chances of the first rock album to ever win the ILM EOY poll happening today?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:38 (fourteen years ago)

why is everyone so antsy abt indie being discussed? are u really that tired of ppl having this discussion?

zvookster, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:40 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTvzpU-rDiI/AAAAAAAAAT0/6DqXOQ1Y0ng/emeralds.jpg

20. EMERALDS — Does it Look Like I'm Here? (660 points, 23 votes, 2 first place votes)
P&J: 50th
Pitchfork: 36th
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:40 (fourteen years ago)

why is everyone so antsy abt indie being discussed? are u really that tired of ppl having this discussion?

― zvookster, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:40 (24 seconds ago) Bookmark

haha, nice one

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:41 (fourteen years ago)

YES!!!! My #1!!!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:41 (fourteen years ago)

Realllly hoping Demdike Stare takes the dark ambient/industrial/drone/hauntology/witch spot instead of Salem.

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:42 (fourteen years ago)

Love the Emeralds, but it just fell short of my ballot/

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:42 (fourteen years ago)

Oohh Emeralds! :-)

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:42 (fourteen years ago)

alright. 3 of mine have made it now. (that i can remember)
album is great.

gman59, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:42 (fourteen years ago)

can someone tell me about emeralds and link some songs? i heard their name crop up a number of times last year but know zero about what they do.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:42 (fourteen years ago)

oh well, thx for ur posts owen & al, some other time perhaps :/

zvookster, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:42 (fourteen years ago)

Owen is OTM: indie, in my experience, is not a distinct category of music but rather a subset of a bunch of different categories. This is what makes the arguments about it as an overall monolithic genre so frustrating; half the time, no one is actually talking about the same subset.

I keep missing results because I have to access ilx on my phone now, lol. Could a kind soul post a quick recap before the top 20? never mind, stupid slow 3G

Indolence Mission (DJP), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:43 (fourteen years ago)

77. HARVEY MILK — A Small Turn of Human Kindness (240 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
76. QUADRON — Quadron (240 points, 12 votes)
75. RIHANNA — Loud (244 points, 9 votes)
74. ZOLA JESUS — Stridulum II (244 points, 10 votes)
73. THIRD EYE FOUNDATION — The Dark (246 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes)
(TIE) 71. THE TALLEST MAN ON EARTH — The Wild Hunt (250 points, 8 votes)
(TIE) 71. KYLIE MINOGUE — Aphrodite (250 points, 8 votes)
70. WARPAINT — The Fool (250 points, 9 votes)
69. SUN ARAW — On Patrol (252 points, 8 votes)
68. NO AGE — Everything in Between (256 points, 11 votes)
67. GAYNGS — Relayted (258 points, 10 votes)
66. GUCCI MANE — Mr. Zone 6 (260 points, 9 votes)
65. SUN CITY GIRLS — Funeral Mariachi (260 points, 9 votes, 2 first place votes)
64. THE RADIO DEPT. — Clinging to a Scheme (266 points, 11 votes)
63. THE KNIFE — Tomorrow, In a Year (270 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
62. THE NATIONAL — High Violet (270 points, 9 votes)
61. ENSLAVED — Axioma Ethica Odini (272 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)

60. KELIS — Flesh Tone (272 points, 11 votes)
59. CURREN$Y — Pilot Talk II (272 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)
58. IKONIKA — Contact, Love, Want, Have (276 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote)
57. R. KELLY — Love Letter (284 points, 12 votes)
56. THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS — Further (286 points, 10 votes)
(TIE) 54. NEIL YOUNG — Le Noise (290 points, 11 votes)
(TIE) 54. THE FALL — Your Future Our Clutter (290 points, 11 votes)
53. RANGDA — False Flag (306 points, 9 votes)
52. JAVIERA MENA - Mena (310 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes)
51. CRYSTAL CASTLES — Crystal Castles (312 points, 13 votes)
50. GORILLAZ — Plastic Beach (316 points, 12 votes)
49. MARINA & THE DIAMONDS — The Family Jewels (320 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)
48. DEERHUNTER — Halcyon Digest (320 points, 13 votes)
47. ELECTRIC WIZARD — Black Masses (334 points, 10 votes)
46. BIG K.R.I.T. — K.R.I.T. Wuz Here (344 points, 11 votes)
45. PANTHA DU PRINCE — Black Noise (348 points, 15 votes)
44. TYLER, THE CREATOR — Bastard (352 points, 14 votes)
43. SPOON — Transference (374 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)
42. RICK ROSS — Teflon Don (380 points, 12 votes)
41. YEASAYER — Odd Blood (380 points, 13 votes)

40. WE LOVE — We Love (380 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote)
39. JAZMINE SULLIVAN — Love Me Back (404 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)
38. TITUS ANDRONICUS — The Monitor (410 points, 15 votes, 4 first place votes)
37. THESE NEW PURITANS — Hidden (414 points, 13 votes)
36. AGALLOCH — Marrow of the Spirit (420 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote)
35. CIARA — Basic Instinct (438 points, 14 votes, 3 first place votes)
34. FLYING LOTUS — Cosmogramma (462 points, 17 votes)
33. EARL SWEATSHIRT — Earl (474 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote)
32. ARCADE FIRE — The Suburbs (478 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote)
31. GUIDO — Anidea (480 points, 17 votes)
30. E-40 — Revenue Retrievin' (484 points, 16 votes, 1 first place vote)
29. HOT CHIP — One Life Stand (490 points, 17 votes, 2 first place votes)
28. LAURA MARLING — I Speak Because I Can (516 points, 15 votes, 2 first place votes)
27. OWEN PALLETT — Heartland (544 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)
26. GIL SCOTT-HERON — I'm New Here (544 points, 20 votes)
25. SCHOOL OF SEVEN BELLS — Disconnect From Desire (550 points, 20 votes, 2 first place votes)
24. WAKA FLOCKA FLAME — Flockaveli (558 points, 20 votes, 1 first place vote)
23. M.I.A. — /\/\ /\ Y /\ (560 points, 18 votes, 1 first place vote)
22. GLASSER — Ring (570 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)
21. JOANNA NEWSOM — Have One on Me (636 points, 17 votes, 2 first place votes)

20. EMERALDS — Does it Look Like I'm Here? (660 points, 23 votes, 2 first place votes)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:45 (fourteen years ago)

I woke up today thinking about Emeralds, not "indie".
I'm surprised that this record has gotten so much love. It's one of my favourites of the year, but it's the least progressive electronic record in recent memory. This thing sounds like Vangelis or JMJ, the kind of simple synth stuff I really love. I'm super happy that so many people have gotten behind it.

ARP 2600 vs. Atari 2600 (Ówen P.), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:45 (fourteen years ago)

i'd have voted for emeralds high on my ballot had i heard it before voting-- incredible album. anyone who likes it should check out their past work as well, esp. What Happened, the one on No Fun Recordings with the colorful cover.

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:46 (fourteen years ago)

This thing sounds like Vangelis or JMJ

Consider me more interested now than I was 20 seconds ago.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:46 (fourteen years ago)

Emeralds reminds me of force majeure era tangerine dream

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:47 (fourteen years ago)

^^ yes

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:47 (fourteen years ago)

Lex, Emeralds do this kind of amniotic instrumental psychedelia that draws on bands like Popol Vuh and Tangerine Dream. Lots of multitracked synths and guitars, really pretty and detailed music that's good for just getting lost in.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:47 (fourteen years ago)

Force Majeure and pretty much everything '70s Tangerine Dream is fantastic btw, should go w/o saying

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:47 (fourteen years ago)

^^^^ yes abt TD circa Force Majeure

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:48 (fourteen years ago)

Thanking u! This list is badass so far.

Indolence Mission (DJP), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:48 (fourteen years ago)

Lex you like Delia & Gavin so you might find something to enjoy in the Emeralds album.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:49 (fourteen years ago)

Tangerine Dream, AH, yes that's it.
It also sounds exactly like the soundtrack to a late 90s PC game called Tyrian, like exactly.
Here let me show you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ9shn6kQx0&feature=related

ARP 2600 vs. Atari 2600 (Ówen P.), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:49 (fourteen years ago)

this is a good intro to the Emeralds album, for those uninitiated:

Double Helix
Genetic

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:49 (fourteen years ago)

ilxor on the mark re 70s TD. I taught him well!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:49 (fourteen years ago)

^________________________________________________________^

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:50 (fourteen years ago)

Just wish OPN could place too now

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:50 (fourteen years ago)

Emeralds - Genetic (part 1)
Emeralds - Genetic (part 2)

oops xp

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:51 (fourteen years ago)

Haw, Tyrian! :-D

So true, so true.

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:51 (fourteen years ago)

really hope Earl Sweatshirt starts posting to ILX. luriqua w/o the pcp

For the record, whenever I use 'indie' I'm using a perverted British reification of the term, which indicates fairly lo-fi guitar-rock, concentrating upon tunes rather than texture, which can be extended to include electronic instrumentation. Song-structure has a peremptory wit and there's usually a repeated refrain or two. It's more about a community of mutually-adjusting artists than anything else. Also, 'independent' in a true sense is exactly as OP says a 'bedroom' aesthetic - self-released and entirely built around a personal vision. (His own (awesome) record in this poll is, I'd say, powered by a sufficiently idiosyncratic vision to earn the term 'independent' (how many other kaleidoscopic electro-orch-pop melodyfests were released last year?) without being 'indie' as I'd code it, but as has been said, indie is a church of many creeds, so in the end it doesn't really matter how you define it. One of its predominant characteristics is bringing in influences from all over the musical map - 'indie' becomes a limiting description.)

Oh, would I like Emeralds? Guess I'd better find out!

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:51 (fourteen years ago)

no i'd put OPN a bit higher than emeralds xp

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:51 (fourteen years ago)

yes lj you def. would

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:52 (fourteen years ago)

Algerian_Goalkeeper, plz tell me you did vote for Demdike Stare... :-/

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:52 (fourteen years ago)

Stuff that placed that I hadn't heard yesterday but now have thanks to the power of Spotify-

40. WE LOVE — We Love (380 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote) Excellent. As MattDC pointed out it definitely builds momentum as it goes along and makes the payoff all the more satisfying for it.

39. JAZMINE SULLIVAN — Love Me Back (404 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote) Liked it but didn't love it although there are a few incredibly well crafted songs on there, maybe the fact that I wasn't blown away by her voice is the reason I don't rate it more highly.

34. FLYING LOTUS — Cosmogramma (462 points, 17 votes) Not my thing, probably a bit too 'challenging' for me tbh

28. LAURA MARLING — I Speak Because I Can (516 points, 15 votes, 2 first place votes) Probably my favourite of the day, especially 'hope in the air' although she really doesn't sound particularly English to me, in fact if I didn't know better then I would have thought she was American.

27. OWEN PALLETT — Heartland (544 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote) Unremarkable.

25. SCHOOL OF SEVEN BELLS — Disconnect From Desire (550 points, 20 votes, 2 first place votes) Liked it but still nothing on there that blew me away as much as 'I L U'. Do think I'll listen to it plenty however.

23. M.I.A. — /\/\ /\ Y /\ (560 points, 18 votes, 1 first place vote) Ignored this on release despite loving the previous 2 albums. Too much going on here including plenty that is bad, but outweighed by the sheer amount of great moments. I was never bored and played it again straight away. Was not expecting Sleigh Bells to show up! Think I'll end up loving it.

22. GLASSER — Ring (570 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote) Excellent though nominally not really in my wheelhouse, am listening again now.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:53 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv2BnCQgUI/AAAAAAAAAVw/oxpQGpw_LjQ/oneohtrix.jpg

19. ONEOHTRIX POINT NEVER — Returnal (710 points, 21 votes, 1 first place vote)
P&J: 60th
Pitchfork: 20th
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:53 (fourteen years ago)

YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!! :-D

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:53 (fourteen years ago)

23. M.I.A. — /\/\ /\ Y /\ (560 points, 18 votes, 1 first place vote) Ignored this on release despite loving the previous 2 albums. Too much going on here including plenty that is bad, but outweighed by the sheer amount of great moments. I was never bored and played it again straight away.

bolded part highly otm re: MAYA ^^

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:53 (fourteen years ago)

Lex you like Delia & Gavin so you might find something to enjoy in the Emeralds album.

yes this a great comparison - i am halfway through "double helix" and i am REALLY FEELING THIS - not in a "yeah i'm enjoying it & finding it worthwhile but honestly dunno when i'm actually gonna listen to it on my own" way à la swans/sun city girls, but in a "i am 100% gonna check out the album" now. can't believe i missed this. emeralds fans, check out delia gonzalez & gavin russom if you haven't already!

also are there any house/techno remixes of emeralds like "relevee", lol.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:54 (fourteen years ago)

omg

need-to-listen overload

fortunately I won't be giving the top 18 much shrift so we should be ok with these two for a while ;)

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:54 (fourteen years ago)

Algerian_Goalkeeper, plz tell me you did vote for Demdike Stare... :-/

― LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre),

sorry, not heard it. Is it something I'd like G?

yes!!!!!!!!!! OPN!!!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:54 (fourteen years ago)

emeralds fans, check out delia gonzalez & gavin russom if you haven't already!

Awww.. :-)

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:55 (fourteen years ago)

xp - Emeralds could have been on my ballot but I figured I had enough drone/noise-not-noise already (voted Mark McGuire out of the Emeralds-related releases). On paper I should love Emeralds but neither this album nor What Happened has engaged me completely.

Actually, the same goes for OPN - didn't really get into it.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:55 (fourteen years ago)

i haven't heard this OPN yet (damn Editions Mego stuff never turns up in shops here) but i LOOOOOOVE his previous comp. Rifts, which is worth a listen or 100 for anyone who liked this year's album, i'm sure

lex otm re: gavin/delia, also fantastic

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:55 (fourteen years ago)

actually have not listened to either of these! will give them a shot tonight.

skip, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:56 (fourteen years ago)

AG, I don't know.. it might be too "witchy" for you at first, but hear me well ~ IT IS NOT.

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:56 (fourteen years ago)

oneohtrix point never - returnal
Oneohtrix Point Never - Stress Waves

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:56 (fourteen years ago)

Oh, okay, two of mine in a row. Was beginning to think neither would show up, to be honest.

I find the Emeralds album a bit funny, because I do really like how it sounds, but I don't get why EVERYONE I know WORSHIPS it. Ended up around the bottom third of my ballot.

Really grew to love most of the Oneohtrix record, though.

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:56 (fourteen years ago)

OPN - heard this, enjoyed in a functional background kind of way, but didn't really get beyond that? idk i think stuff like this and actress might be tooooo subtle for me.

did you oneohtrix fans hear his lindsay lohan cover btw? on this - http://www.factmag.com/2010/07/21/oneohtrix-point-never-babe-rainbow-and-more-shine-for-you-on-lindsey-lohan-mixtape/

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:57 (fourteen years ago)

OPN - I like this guy in interviews etc, but I don't really know what makes his music so interesting to people. I'm sure I'm missing something, as I MUCH prefer him under his Games moniker.

Those who like it should def check out: Acreil

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:58 (fourteen years ago)

but I don't get why EVERYONE I know WORSHIPS it

EVERYONE you know posts to DROWNEDINSOUND DOT COM

:D

listening to it now, on headphones. ooooooooooooooooooooooooh

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:58 (fourteen years ago)

yay emeralds!! my #1

talk talk talk (diamonddave85), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:58 (fourteen years ago)

I don't think I know anyone who posts on that website except you.

xpost

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:58 (fourteen years ago)

yay 0pn!! my #15

talk talk talk (diamonddave85), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:58 (fourteen years ago)

AG check yr mail, you would enjoy Demdike Stare v much

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:58 (fourteen years ago)

but I don't get why EVERYONE I know WORSHIPS it

Because it sounds like a force majuere era tangerine dream album!!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:59 (fourteen years ago)

Demdike I totally get though!

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:59 (fourteen years ago)

xp - Emeralds could have been on my ballot but I figured I had enough drone/noise-not-noise already

i thin the reason emeralds hit the spot for me, contra OPN, is that while the droney elements are obv there, he also reconciles that with immediacy and, er, melody i guess?

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:59 (fourteen years ago)

Gotta be honest, I like Returnal, but am feeling it nowhere near as much as I did Rifts.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 15:59 (fourteen years ago)

The Oneohtrix you really have to immerse yourself in, same with the Emeralds. Both lovely records for basking in the sound. Total headphone music for me.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:00 (fourteen years ago)

OMGGGGG the synth stab in OPN "Returnal" at 2:04 amazingggggggg

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:00 (fourteen years ago)

Me too, ilxor! Name dot name at gmail :P

Emil.y I haven't posted there in months, place is waste

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:00 (fourteen years ago)

Ilxor OTM. But I'll stop stanning or Demdike Stare now.

Great start of todays countdown!

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:00 (fourteen years ago)

btw how could you fucking savages vote this ahead of flockavelli smdh

(emeralds is ACE so far :D)

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:02 (fourteen years ago)

I suppose it's somewhat churlish, as well, as my number two record sounds like Goblin/Zombi and my number three record sounds like Amon Duul but at least they sort of go somewhere, whereas the Emeralds just sits around being not very challenging but quite pretty.

(I know I shouldn't bitch about it as I do think it's well worthy of being one of the top twenty albums of the year, but damnit it's not number one material.)

Demdike are great, too, but where did the discussion about them come from?

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:02 (fourteen years ago)

Demdike are great, too, but where did the discussion about them come from?

― emil.y, donderdag 3 februari 2011 17:02 (11 seconds ago) Bookmark

From me really wishing it would place... :)

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:03 (fourteen years ago)

Always kind of thought of Returnal as a synth equivalent to Fennesz, but maybe that's just the Mego link making me think that.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:03 (fourteen years ago)

emil.y please tell me what your #3 album is? last.fm it or email if you dont want to reveal it here.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:03 (fourteen years ago)

my number two record sounds like Goblin/Zombi and my number three record sounds like Amon Duul but at least they sort of go somewhere

What are these? fwiw I gave Drum Eyes one listen and immediately shoved it quite high up my ballot, pretty blockbusting stuff tbh

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:03 (fourteen years ago)

Ah, okay, LBI. Where's an 'I VOTED' jpg when you need one?

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:04 (fourteen years ago)

Hey, I'm just happy to see some indie in the top 20.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:04 (fourteen years ago)

I know what emil.y's #2 album is but i didn't hear it until voting was closed :(

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:05 (fourteen years ago)

Emeralds is coming across on a similar level to Flying Lotus - absolutely incredible sound, immersive song-worlds, maybe not the most brainblowing narratives ever constructed but enough sonic synergy to fry eggs on

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:05 (fourteen years ago)

Love Drum Eyes

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:05 (fourteen years ago)

Always kind of thought of Returnal as a synth equivalent to Fennesz

this is a fair comparison

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:06 (fourteen years ago)

Haha, AG knows exactly what my #2 is. I'm pretty sure I'm the only voter for my #3. Was going to be more shy about revealing the but hell neither are going to show up: they were Umberto and Sylvester Anfang II respectively.

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:06 (fourteen years ago)

reaaaaally interested to see emil.y's ballot

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:06 (fourteen years ago)

revealing *THEM

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:06 (fourteen years ago)

emil.y, I would have given your #2 hella points if I'd heard it in time but I've never even heard of your #3.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:06 (fourteen years ago)

(if not quite as mindmeltingly *fucked* and all-over-the-shop insane-creative as FL)

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:06 (fourteen years ago)

i read in an interview with emeralds about how they consider their music 'displays of control'

this really kinda blew my mind because i realized it's hard enough for one person to improvise on a synth fed through delays and loopers, let alone 3

the music is so precise and clean but at the same time organic and amateurish in a way

love that band

talk talk talk (diamonddave85), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:07 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTvzFz0YbQI/AAAAAAAAATk/OaDcz_V5T0c/diddydirtymoney.jpg

18. DIDDY-DIRTY MONEY — Last Train to Paris (722 points, 18 votes, 2 first place votes)
P&J: 153rd
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

^^ another record i just heard this week, AMAZINGGGG, would vote for if given a do-over

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

Sylvester Anfang II are awesome!!! I had no idea anyone here knew of them, thought it was only people who read DFFD who did.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

Diddy's previous album Press Play is rly good too if u dig on this

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

Ahhh, Sylvester Anfang II! I have that one but haven't given it enough time.

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:09 (fourteen years ago)

That is surprisingly low. Even if it did only come out in December there's been mad ILM love for it.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:09 (fourteen years ago)

AG, what's DFFD? Should I know it?

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:10 (fourteen years ago)

reaaaaally interested to see emil.y's ballot

― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:06 (3 minutes ago)

without fail, emil.y and sleeve have my favourite ballots after every ILX poll. sleeve's will presumably win this year for not having MBDTF in it :P

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:11 (fourteen years ago)

finding it hard to believe my #1 may have received less pts than harvey milk received but apparently so

omar little, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:11 (fourteen years ago)

I know there are a lot of passionate defenders of that Diddy album on here, so I'll keep y thoughts pretty brief. It is good, really good, and I'm glad to see it place here - but I really don't think it is as *amazing* as a lot of people want it to be. Its really fun, but I'm not hearing the depth that others seem to find.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:11 (fourteen years ago)

Last Train to Paris has the highest average points/vote in the countdown; those who heard it in time loved it. Though it's hard to extrapolate to "this would have won if it had been released earlier", because the people who would have heard it first are those who are most likely to dig it.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:12 (fourteen years ago)

kind of thought diddy might be higher :( oh well! again, only released a matter of weeks ago.

y'all heard "ass on the floor" on the trax thread, here are some more highlights -

yeah yeah you would ("fichsia gaiters and cummerbunds"!!!!)
i hate that you love me (LOVE the piano)
shades )"and girl if you want, I'll pour a gallon of gasoline on my heart just to light your cigarette / girl if you want, I'll do anything for you - I'll even take off my shades and stare right at the sun from the stage / I'll even try different things / I'll make love to you on marmalade...")

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:13 (fourteen years ago)

My number 1.Only came out in December but 50 or so plays later don't regret it one bit. At least 8 great tunes on here, magnificent production, excellent guest turns, nice cover art. I would have ignored it if not for ILM and so so so happy I didn't.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:13 (fourteen years ago)

was hoping Diddy would place higher but still happy to see it.

Last Train To Paris being really good and fun is enough for me, it was #2 on my ballot so if it's not amazing it's about the closest i heard last year

Bearenthetical Grylls (some dude), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:14 (fourteen years ago)

*fuchsia aargh

XPS

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:14 (fourteen years ago)

oh god my typing has just gone to utter shit today

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:14 (fourteen years ago)

god I need to hear the Diddy as well now don't I

got me an hour and a bit of space-age electro first, soz

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:16 (fourteen years ago)

I'm trying not to speed through these reveals too quickly, but I barely slept last night and the sooner I finish the sooner I can take a little nap...so, here's #17

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv0uXU9ubI/AAAAAAAAAUs/0bCBXR01mvU/fourtet.jpg

17. FOUR TET — There Is Love in You (724 points, 26 votes, 1 first place vote)
P&J: 35th
Pitchfork: 27th
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:19 (fourteen years ago)

basically anyone who's into ridiculously inventive electronic sounds and beats, a frantic action-film feel engendered by a narrative being tossed from voice to voice to voice, loopy but never unsympathetic or overbearing self-analysis, stylishly meditative introspection and an immensely dramatic sense of theatre throughout should hear last train to paris. so much better than kanye.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:19 (fourteen years ago)

Ugh. I hate hate hate being stuck in class while these get revealed, because I have about 10 albums to listen to a day now, and (obviously) I have not been able to catch up. Cheers for the Diddy album, intrigued by Emeralds and OPN.

Alex in Montreal, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

I quite like that Four Tet album but it's a bit 'Please Like Me I'm Pretty'. Like it's all payoff and none of the build up to it. Icing needs cake.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:21 (fourteen years ago)

I tried, but I just could not get into this Four Tet record. I liked his previous records quite a bit.. maybe I'm Four Tet Tired? What's the appeal in this one?

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:21 (fourteen years ago)

Feelin this Alex, I'm the same. I'm always at work or on the train and then busy in the evening, so I haven't listened to hardly any of these.

Couldn't get into the Four Tet album from what I remember.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:21 (fourteen years ago)

But I like pretty things!

Hearing "Angel Echoes" on a giant speaker system was one of my favorite live music moments of the year.

skip, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:22 (fourteen years ago)

I quite like that Four Tet album but it's a bit 'Please Like Me I'm Pretty'. Like it's all payoff and none of the build up to it. Icing needs cake.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:21 (33 seconds ago) Bookmark

Yeah definitely. Although I'd argue it's all buildup and no payoff.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:23 (fourteen years ago)

Damn, I'm enjoying the shit out of this Diddy album so far.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:23 (fourteen years ago)

AG, what's DFFD? Should I know it?

― emil.y,

Heh probably not. Its Forever Doomed, which is people from the old Southern Lord Goatshed Forum.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:24 (fourteen years ago)

I lump this album in my head with the Caribou album in that it's indie-dance dudes trying to do proper-dance albums. Everything's in place, but something's missing. I think in both cases, it's bass.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:24 (fourteen years ago)

but despite being a doom forum, it's not all metal talk.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:25 (fourteen years ago)

I tried, but I just could not get into this Four Tet record. I liked his previous records quite a bit.. maybe I'm Four Tet Tired? What's the appeal in this one?

best way to describe it is: four tet goes dance/house/etc., less scattered percussion and fractured beats, more straight-up rhythms and euphoric dancefloor moments. that said, it's a LOT more subtle and detailed and slow-burning than, say, girl unit "wut" (which i also love, just throwing it out as a comparison point).

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:27 (fourteen years ago)

I own several Four Tet cds and love them but not heard this one yet

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:27 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTvy6elluyI/AAAAAAAAATM/_PGrzEIZXMU/caribou.jpg

16. CARIBOU — Swim (730 points, 27 votes)
P&J: 25th
Pitchfork: 17th
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:28 (fourteen years ago)

btw, four tet was my most-played album of 2010 by a long shot. probably spun it 50 times. my favorite thing he's ever done, been a fan since 2002-03 or so and this album is some next level ish for him.

if you liked it, check out his Ringer EP from 2008, it kinda pointed the way toward this one.

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:28 (fourteen years ago)

I lump this album in my head with the Caribou album in that it's indie-dance dudes trying to do proper-dance albums. Everything's in place, but something's missing. I think in both cases, it's bass.

Nah that's not the intention, it's obviously bedroom music. Four Tet is a very good DJ and knows his bass music as well. If he'd wanted bass he'd have put it there.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:28 (fourteen years ago)

caribou is flat-out incredible as well, what a great run

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:29 (fourteen years ago)

You guys keep predicting what comes next in comparative conversation, ya damn psychics!

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:29 (fourteen years ago)

DREAMY ELECTRONICAAAAAAAAA

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:29 (fourteen years ago)

<3

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:29 (fourteen years ago)

Seems fitting for those two to be back-to-back, but the better album placed higher for sure.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:30 (fourteen years ago)

While I would argue that there are indeed thematic peaks and valleys on the Four Tet album, the lack of an in-your-face "payoff" is not necessarily a bad thing, especially when the overall atmosphere is so compelling. "With Every Heartbeat" never resolves and it's better off for it.

xp how appropriate! I always thought of these two albums as two of a kind, though rank Caribou a notch down.

skip, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:30 (fourteen years ago)

Four Tet trax:

Circling
Plastic People

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

@Ilxor... I think that's spot on. I think the transition of Four Tet's sound has confused me a bit, for I've never perceived his earlier work to be dancefloor euphoric music (not that there's anything wrong with that). It's that dancey/housey vibe I could not get used to.

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

and BTW, when you see Four Tet in person the bass is massive, or at least it was when I saw him.

skip, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

Hehe, Four Tet and Caribou back to back!

xp :)

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

would link "Angel Echoes" (best 4 min. of music released last year imo, hands down) but it's not on yootoob

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

Still can't get past the monumental ugliness of that Caribou cover. So horrible.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

entire Four Tet album is streaming here: http://soundcloud.com/four-tet/there-is-love-in-you

skip, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

Haha, well, I'm not that fussed by either of those, but they're both okay. (Yes, yes, clearly these are important and incisive opinions that you all must know about.)

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

really? I think the cover looks great.

skip, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

lol @ the emeralds/oneohtrix and fourtet/caribou b2bs

w/r/t four tet and caribou, i guess it's pretty enough, but i can't think of a reason i'd listen to either over ACTUAL dance music - i've always found both fundamentally unsatisfying.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

xp - Voted Four Tet #1 and Caribou #2, so woop! As has been pointed out, neither are trying to be dance albums though they're not just for listening at home (have I mentioned Caribou's live set before?)

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

really? I think the cover looks great.

Needs font help.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:33 (fourteen years ago)

Caribou:

Odessa
Sun
Kaili

first two made the ILM tracks poll

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:34 (fourteen years ago)

Caribou and Four Tet after one another... it's like we're transported ten years back. Genuinely didn't think people cared about these guys anymore.

abcfsk, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:34 (fourteen years ago)

An outstanding cut from Swim that isn't Odessa or Sun: Bowls

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:34 (fourteen years ago)

listening to Caribou right now; it really is one of the best albums I've heard from this last year...

scientifically proven that Louis Armstrong = Socrates (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

The Caribou cover looks GORGEOUS vinyl-sized.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

I never rated Four Tet or Caribou highly until recent releases (Ringer in the case of FT) fwiw.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

Johnny, can we pause this thread for 47 min. so everyone can head over to Soundcloud, stream the Four Tet album front to back, then collectively declare it our #1 of the year and call it a day?

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

Genuinely didn't think people cared about these guys anymore.

It probably helps that these two albums are sort of a departure (though not a huge departure) from their previous sounds/releases.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

prolley going to get my knuckles rapped for being a schmindie-head, but I have a feeling Tame Impala isn't going to place...

:( I should've voted...

scientifically proven that Louis Armstrong = Socrates (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

re: lack of Four Tet bass, anyone who hears the CD (or vinyl too, I presume) on a good hi-fi stereo will attest to the HUGE stabs of bass coming through various tracks, starting with "Angel Echoes" -- it's definitely there

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

xp - To be fair, I think after the Angel Echoes + Love Cry 1-2 most people will have a good idea whether they rate the album or not.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:37 (fourteen years ago)

I voted for Tame Impala!

skip, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:37 (fourteen years ago)

i still want to hear tame impala sometime, despite the lol-worthy name

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:38 (fourteen years ago)

Cover looks like a cross between a roadworks lamp and a seed packet picture.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

xp it's cool! trad psych-rock fer sure, but at least to these ears, it is also very dream-poppy...

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv09d0KPUI/AAAAAAAAAVM/githxUYr0Do/lcdss.jpg

15. LCD SOUNDSYSTEM — This Is Happening (734 points, 21 votes)
P&J: 2nd
Pitchfork: 2nd
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

I like the Caribou sleeve a lot more than the music.

(xpost - move along, nothing to see here)

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

is this happening

zvookster, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

woww. 15. interesting

gman59, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

hah - Dance Yrself Clean/Home would have been quite a 12", can take or leave the rest - and with so much other good music this year, definitely opted for "leave"

skip, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

glad that's outta the way before we get too high ^_______^

love lcd, but it's his worst album by a long shot-- can't imagine how any fan of the early singles or first album would rate this (oh and if yr a sentimental/sappy kinda person, sound of silver does that better, too)

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

more schmindie dance-not-dance. pleasingly low compared to where they've historically placed in ilm polls.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

Even the best of runs has to come to an end I suppose...

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

great album. not surprised by its placing, given the pasting it got in the trax thread. also i think it is their best album.

Gukbe, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

also i think it is their best album.

honest question: why?

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

also i think it is their best album.

I know that's an opinion, but DOES NOT COMPUTE

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

Lex what is "real dance music"?

Mrs. Doubtfife (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

i guess its good its out the way, but i cant believe so many voted for it. but with 2 of my albums placing that i didnt expect im still happy

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

damn, fiery start today!

good placings for emeralds and opn, i jammed out to those records a lot this year for sure

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

ilxor what's going to be in the top 15

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

er, 14

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

I think Underworld will miss out :(

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

ilxor what's going to be #6?

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

Didn't vote for it, but my favorite long-player from LCD by a huge margin. Like the early singles more but the first two records really bugged me. This had some stuff I really liked, like "Dance Yrself Clean" (which I did vote for in the singles poll).

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

Lex what is "real dance music"?

music made explicitly and functionally for clubs and dancefloors, i guess

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

I think it's their most consistently good. Several duff/and or filler tracks both on the first and on Sound of Silver are often overlooked because of the greatness of the standouts. There's only one song I don't particularly care for on This is Happening, but I think everything else on it is of a more consistent high quality. Also starting with Dance Yrself Clean and ending on Home almost inevitably makes it feel more like a journey to listen to, even if it's cheating a bit.

Gukbe, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:45 (fourteen years ago)

*ceremonial sweary post @ LCDS*

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:46 (fourteen years ago)

that's a pretty small box to fit so much music in, lex

Gukbe, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:46 (fourteen years ago)

ehh lcd is more of a band that needs high points than a band that needs to be consistently good and this record was way short on high points.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:47 (fourteen years ago)

You know what turned me around on This Is Happening? Hearing the London Sessions versions. I still think its the "worst" of his full lengths, but its a lot better than I initially thought.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:48 (fourteen years ago)

this Four Tet album is quite nice so far, dunno why I didn't listen before since I own the 1st 2, but I think i didn't care for the 3rd one and that maybe put me off.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:48 (fourteen years ago)

I like LCD too, but it's a shame they never made a consistently GREAT album. Nothing I've heard from ITH has grabbed me. Sound Of Silver was consistently good with some great bits. And the debut, well the singles album was best and there were a few long boring moments on it, but I liked it well enough. I just think a band of this calibre and influence would have done something more significant in their careers, as opposed to a few shining highlights.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:48 (fourteen years ago)

ilxor what's going to be in the top 15

okay, i've edited to reflect stuff that's already placed -- here's 12 records i think are a lock for the top 14

Ariel Pink
Erykah Badu
Big Boi
The-Dream
Janelle Monae
Lindstrom & Christabelle
Robyn
Sleigh Bells
Swans
Taylor Swift
Vampire Weekend
Kanye West

thought these would place, but the majority will miss out now. i guess 2 of the following 5 will show, & that's it

Ke$ha
Beach House
Yelawolf
Sade
Underworld

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:49 (fourteen years ago)

would bet on Yelawolf and...... Sade? who knows, I'd have thought Underworld a lock but hey ;_;

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:49 (fourteen years ago)

Ohh yeah Swans, would love to see that go top 10 (yes i know metal poll voters thats a tad ironic)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

I figured Lindstrøm and Christabelle's 2009 sort-of release would mean that it wouldn't place.

Gukbe, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

Sade is a lock (never ever ever got the appeal)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

Somebody's Calling Me is the only song I don't really love on This Is Happening, it might not be in the same league as Sound Of Silver but it's a really strong album.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

beach house and yelawolf probably?

skip, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

There's only one song I don't particularly care for on This is Happening

please tell me yr talking about "drunk girls" -- SO BAD

honestly i think that may be what put me (and lots of ppl?) off the LCD record. if you cant sequence yr record to not have a shitty track in the #2 slot, who's gonna take it seriously after that??

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

And Demdike Stare obv :)

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:52 (fourteen years ago)

i wish!!

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:52 (fourteen years ago)

Really like the Four Tet album, although it peters out towards the end I think. Anyway, sure now to be the highest-placed thing on my ballot (my #6) to make the 77.

Diddy-Dirty Money would have been my #1 if I'd heard it in 2010. Since it came out in UK on 24 Jan, I will nominate it for next year's poll.

I'm trying not to speed through these reveals too quickly, but I barely slept last night and the sooner I finish the sooner I can take a little nap
Fine by me. I can leave work early for a change :)

Jeff W, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:52 (fourteen years ago)

I will nominate it for next year's poll.

no way, its top 20 this year. Different if it had missed out completely but its top 20!!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv5leFHlJI/AAAAAAAAAXo/ArOoFaTn22w/taylorswift.jpg

14. TAYLOR SWIFT — Speak Now (736 points, 21 votes, 2 first place votes)
P&J: 26th
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:55 (fourteen years ago)

ahh, diddy-dirty money is TOO LOW. it definitely suffered from being released in december.

smh that kanye beat it

prolego, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:55 (fourteen years ago)

^^ Algerian Goalkeeper's #1

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:55 (fourteen years ago)

this would be my #2 or #3 album had i ranked my ballot. fucking incredible

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:56 (fourteen years ago)

holy shit this emeralds album is amazing!

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:56 (fourteen years ago)

and we've hit a little rough patch here

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:56 (fourteen years ago)

If Yelawolf makes the top 10 I will celebrate in an appropriate style by drinking a bottle of whisky and crashing some hot rich girl's sports car into the side of the road while listening to Willie Nelson really loudly.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

speak now is really good but I much prefer fearless and her debut

prolego, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

This whole day so far is a rough patch, IMO.

xpost

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

you don't fuck w/emeralds and opn, ez?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

Speaking as someone who does like T-Swift, no way does this one deserve to place so high. So patchy, imho.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

so what, AG? This year, it could go higher!

xp
ooh, Taylor made it. I had feared it might not.

Jeff W, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

Well Taylor is way too low obv. The 'journey' listening to Speak Now has been very different from my experience with Fearless. With Fearless I had no expectations and was sufficiently blown away after a few spins to spend the rest of my listening time pondering over which track was my favorite that day. With Speak Now expectations and analysis and uncertainty about how I liked her new lyrics and whether this and that was too blunt made me initially confused about how much I actually liked it. Now, with sufficient distance, I'm happy to say I'm back to walking around listening to it and being surprised at how much I like that track, and that track, and discovering new sides to it. In the end, it's absolutely my album of last year.

abcfsk, Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

I'd be shocked if L&C made it, I think AG is right about Underworld, and Ke$ha better not make it...

Knowing ILX entropy, Yelawolf is probably next.

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

Speak Now was my #1, without any hesitation.

Euler, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:00 (fourteen years ago)

I said as much last night, but ANYTHING that cracks the top 77 is not TOO LOW.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:01 (fourteen years ago)

T-SWIFT <3

long live - so anthemic, it's her victory lap but feels so incredibly affirming. i looked for the most recent YT upload to get around the pitch-shifting thing and that home-made video is...really apt
enchanted - prob my favourite non-single on the album. i love the note of dread that sneaks in unbidden towards the end.
dear john - the centrepiece of the album, the epic. contains the most incredible punctum: "but i took your matches before fire could catch me, so don't look now: i'm shining like fireworks over your sad, empty town..."

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:01 (fourteen years ago)

I tried both the Emeralds and OPN - both left me cold. Not a sound I care for in general.

xposts to call all destroyer

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:02 (fourteen years ago)

glad this is out of the way but im hoping we might get a good run of records again before the consensus hits hard

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:02 (fourteen years ago)

dear john - the centrepiece of the album, the epic. contains the most incredible punctum: "but i took your matches before fire could catch me, so don't look now: i'm shining like fireworks over your sad, empty town..."

and then she sings like a firework!

prolego, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:03 (fourteen years ago)

just what are these 'good records' you're looking forward to placing, Algie?

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

i don't think speak now is as brilliant as fearless - though that's an unfair comparison in many ways. it's the album that taylor had to make at this stage, and even if you can hear her force herself at times, she still knocks it out of the park in terms of both songcraft and emotional resonance enough for this to be considered a pretty great album.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

and then she sings like a firework!

as opposed to the other firework song this year... which sounded more like a wet fart

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTvyn2KsYGI/AAAAAAAAATA/qc2YQcpb0tQ/beachhouse.jpg

13. BEACH HOUSE — Teen Dream (742 points, 24 votes, 3 first place votes)
P&J: 7th
Pitchfork: 5th
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:06 (fourteen years ago)

wow

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:07 (fourteen years ago)

never heard beach house

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:07 (fourteen years ago)

beautiful album, amazing textures and her voice is eerie and soothing.

skip, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:08 (fourteen years ago)

The Beach House is a great "sound", but I can't keep up with it for a whole album. "Zebra" is phenomenal though.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:08 (fourteen years ago)

Yeahhhhh Beach House!

Not as sublime as their first, but still a really great album.

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:08 (fourteen years ago)

I wonder if there are any in the Pfork/P&J top 20 that haven't/won't make it

Mrs. Doubtfife (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:08 (fourteen years ago)

my guess for top 3

Big Boi
The-Dream
Sleigh Bells

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:09 (fourteen years ago)

I voted for it. The only reason I didn't put it higher than tenth in my ballot is that I often play the first 3 tracks and then go back to the start and begin again because Zebra is such a great opener, but the rest has grown on me over time.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:09 (fourteen years ago)

ehhhhh. it's like mazzy star but less slow-burning psych greatness (first mazzy star album!), same sleepy/pretty melodies but ultimately kinda boring

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:09 (fourteen years ago)

JAY-Z AND BEYONCE APPROVE OF THIS RECORD

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

well jay-z turned me on to the greatness of coldplay a few years ago so i'll take his recommendation to heart

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

For a while the only song I heard from the Beach House album was "Zebra," which struck me as just sort of blandly pretty and didn't compel me to listen to any more. But then I listened to "Norway" when it showed up on the Pitchfork list and was like, "Ah!" Really like the woozy textures on that one. Still haven't heard the whole album, though.

Tyler/Perry's "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" (jaymc), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

Ha!

skip, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

The best thing I got out of Beach House overexposure this year was finding out about the drummer's side project, Roman Ruins: http://romanruins.bandcamp.com/

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

It was meant for Lex, Ilxor ;-)

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

Beach House kind of sound a bit like Grizzly Bear without the tension to me.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:12 (fourteen years ago)

beyoncé is also working with sleigh bells on her new record. closet indie fuxxor?

prolego, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:13 (fourteen years ago)

the production was very deep on this. I don't really understand the idea that this has a standout track. Even though this was one of the albums I listened to most this year I still can't pick a favorite song

Dan S, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:13 (fourteen years ago)

i've actually heard beach house already - "gila" was on trentemøller's harbour boat trips compilation a couple of years ago. i really like it! getting a vague julee cruise vibe. it fit in really well to that comp. i don't know how well i'd take to an entire album of songs like that.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

I like Sleigh Bells and all, but I really really don't think it is top 3 worthy.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

if sleigh bells hit #1 im quitting the board

talk talk talk (diamonddave85), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

Beyonce had what was basically a Mogwai track on her last album, she's been closet indie fuxxor for a long time.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

Beach House kind of sound a bit like Grizzly Bear without the tension to me.

grizzly bear has tension?

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

lol @ lex liking beach house, that's surprising!

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

A Mogwai track? o_O

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

beyoncé is also working with sleigh bells on her new record. closet indie fuxxor?

beyoncé we are OVER :o

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

Kudos to Lex! Gila is great (so is that Trentemoller comp)

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:16 (fourteen years ago)

i voted for beach house - really sonically gorgeous album that separates itself from the rest of the indie pop pack by having slick and spacious production instead of the woozy smudgy chillwave style that's been in vogue lately

ciderpress, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:16 (fourteen years ago)

Btw, jumping back a bit, Fever Ray fans that have never heard Oneohtrix would do well to check out the album version of "Returnal" - I think it hits a similar sweet spot.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:16 (fourteen years ago)

Okay, so votes for Trunk Muzik counted for either the mixtape or the commercially released album in an effort to avoid vote splitting on what's essentially the same album. I don't know who voted for what, so feel free to discuss your votes here and sort it out.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv7E9A1GlI/AAAAAAAAAYg/OoNGNfLWi0U/yelawolf.jpg

12. YELAWOLF — Trunk Muzik/Trunk Muzik 0-60 (750 points, 22 votes, 2 first place votes)
P&J: 145th
Pitchfork: DNP

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:17 (fourteen years ago)

lol @ lex liking beach house, that's surprising!

well, one track in a mix that didn't move me to investigate any further

A Mogwai track? o_O

that's why you're beautiful

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:17 (fourteen years ago)

Beyonce had what was basically a Mogwai track on her last album, she's been closet indie fuxxor for a long time.

Wait what huh?

Mrs. Doubtfife (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:18 (fourteen years ago)

jf can u tell how many votes were for the alb vs. the mixtape?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:18 (fourteen years ago)

Must be a different Mogwai.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:19 (fourteen years ago)

I meant Sleigh Bells as #3 dd85

I don't know if it'll make it or not, just know it got a lot of good buzz round here this year...

tbh since #15 I kinda feel like all the wild cards have been played ifuknowahtimean...just sticking around to see if Erykah & the Swans make top 10...

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:19 (fourteen years ago)

for newcomers i would recommend the proper album over the mixtape, it's only missing one of the great mixtape tracks imo ('stage lights')

ciderpress, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:19 (fourteen years ago)

Yay for Yelawolf. Love this whole thing incl the way he interchanges the use of the word 'bitches' on 'pop the trunk'. Oh and I voted for the mix tape as I'd 'lived' with that longer.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:19 (fourteen years ago)

I'd have to check but weren't the album and mixtape nominated as one item?

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:19 (fourteen years ago)

haven't heard the mixtape, voted for the album

Dan S, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:19 (fourteen years ago)

swear Lex was clowning Beach House in some other EOY thread a while back, maybe I'm misremembering tho, not that it really matters

I like this band and am sort-of impressed that they got as big as they did, although I didn't for a second consider putting this in my 25

Rogaine's a hell of a rug (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:19 (fourteen years ago)

lol what? this actually sounds like mogwai xp

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:20 (fourteen years ago)

Yelawolf - think I must have got hold of this off the back of the Big Boi album. Really like the production, and every track's killer.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:20 (fourteen years ago)

jf can u tell how many votes were for the alb vs. the mixtape?

I'll assume you're kidding since I just said I don't know (because they were combined into one nomination).

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:20 (fourteen years ago)

Thanks for the link Lex! o_OOO

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:20 (fourteen years ago)

HELLO YELAWOLF :D

daddy's lambo

damn rich - peanut butter guts and a lamborghini, whoa
you must have white bread, let's make a sandwich
now, i ain't never seen money like you got
nobody got that kind of money in the boondocks
so if you take me up and show me the balcony lookin' over the hollywood valley, i'll make your balloon pop
popstars like you need a dude like me to appreciate your wealth
i know you got an elevator in your house, but with me you appreciate the steps
act like you don't wanna see how much of this jack daniels you can handle
you can drink and get cut like rambo
and let me drive your daddy's lambo

take me up to beverly hills to your daddy's mansion
let me see hollywood for real - lights, camera, action
i've seen you partying with keel, entertainment channel
one thing i gotta know: can i drive your daddy's lambo?

you're young and reckless, nice little diamond necklace
got a pint-sized vodka drink and you're pretty in pink - wanna go get breakfast?
though you ain't never been to waffle house, always hangin in guys & dolls
if you came to the south, i'll put you in a chevrolet and reach out to the mall
yeah i came to the club in a pair of famous jeans and a dta hoodie
but i'm off to the party with rogue status lookin for beverly hills goodies
yelawolf and i'm an alabama boy
got more bounce than a salamander boy
need a rich girl like i need a headache, but i'll take it if i can drive your daddy's toy

pop the trunk - but also u&k and a real illustration of how damn talented this boy is, the bones & vocal version of it - just yelawolf rapping to a solo piano (plus short interview at the start)

off the mixtape but not the album, lick the cat

and an amazing new track that's not on either mixtape or album, shit i seen

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:21 (fourteen years ago)

wau... that is my discovery of this poll... Beyoncé doing Mogwai

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:21 (fourteen years ago)

oh i'm sry i read it wrong--i thought you couldn't tell who voted for what on an individual basis, did not realize they were combined at nomination time.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:22 (fourteen years ago)

nice plucked eyebrows.

jed_, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:22 (fourteen years ago)

Been loving that new track btw. xps to Lex

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:23 (fourteen years ago)

This sounds ridiculous and challopy but I genuinely think that Yelawolf is the single most exciting new voice in pop music that I heard in 2010. I love the storytelling side to his lyrics, and his complete control over the dramatic tension in his voice. He raps like he's acting, in the best possible way.

Also Mixin' Up The Medicine and Billy Crystal are both fantastic and well worth a listen.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:25 (fourteen years ago)

there's not much I've heard by Yela that isn't worth a few listens

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:26 (fourteen years ago)

yelawolf is great, i dont think i placed him on my ballot but i'd only had the album proper for a couple days at that point (didn't hear the mixtape, bought the "official" release as soon as it hit)

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

if dude wasn't so completely blink182 lookin' i think he woulda already broke on the national stage

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

I really like Yelawolf too, but didn't get the album until the day after voting. Its pretty much only him and Curren$y that I'm excited about among all the ILM hyped guys lately.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

if dude wasn't so completely blink182 lookin' i think he woulda already broke on the national stage

tbh, I thought that aspect would have actually helped him

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:29 (fourteen years ago)

mdc otm, and esp re: "mixin' up the medicine" - "mixin up the medicine, trippin on the mescaline, moonshine in the bottle, got the rooms runnin like peppermint, spinnin like a ceiling fan, hotter than i've ever been, if you wanna chop it up you'll need a propeller, man..."

just love his command of language

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:29 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv2_OQfdxI/AAAAAAAAAWo/mAq5cJ8t-V4/swans.jpg

11. SWANS — My Father Will Guide Me Up a Rope to the Sky (750 points, 25 votes)
P&J: 29th
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:30 (fourteen years ago)

^^amazing album

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:30 (fourteen years ago)

^^this

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:30 (fourteen years ago)

Woo! My third vote to place. Love dem swans.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:31 (fourteen years ago)

gave this a spin last night for the first time in a while and damn
just damn

talk talk talk (diamonddave85), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:31 (fourteen years ago)

^^^^^^^ what everyone's saying

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

yay. Pity it didn't go top 10 though.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

awesome. this live was great too earlier last year

gman59, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

Haven't heard the Swans or the Yelawolf albums. The Taylor album is alright but nowhere near as good as the last two and doesn't deserve to be this high imo.

Gukbe, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

jon, i think that the look doesn't mesh with the quality of work he's doing.
dude has a gym class heroes facade but he raps like a fucking madman. cognitive dissonance imo and folks aren't sure how to handle. I know a lot of people who disregard his skills on the look alone and a few who tried him as a pop-disposable rapper and are like "whoa this is more than i bargained for"

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

Swans is good.

abcfsk, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:33 (fourteen years ago)

Oh, I'm on board with that 100% forks, I just thought his "pretty" looks might help him break into mainstream America. I mean, Eminem's looks didn't really hurt him when he came out.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:33 (fourteen years ago)

Swans was a bit too much like serious man rock for me, I wish I could have gotten into it more.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:34 (fourteen years ago)

Ooh, Swans! Need to listen to the whole thing, but am glad to see it here.

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:35 (fourteen years ago)

I haven't heard that Yelawolf yet, but the lyrics lex posted made me immediately finish the lines with "look out kid, it's something you did, god knows when but you're doing it again..."

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:35 (fourteen years ago)

emil.y i think we have lots more in common with our ballots this year than usual (minus the metal obv)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:36 (fourteen years ago)

oh shit Yelawolf is from Gadsden. must check out.

Gukbe, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:37 (fourteen years ago)

its pretty serious but no album made me smile more than that swans record last year.

gman59, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:38 (fourteen years ago)

As we're about to hit the top 10, can we get the thread title changed?

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:38 (fourteen years ago)

Gukbe, are you a bama native?

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:39 (fourteen years ago)

I am.

Gukbe, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:39 (fourteen years ago)

"eden prison" just popped up on shuffle. swans was my #2 vote, doesn't look like my #1 is going to make it.

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:39 (fourteen years ago)

Nice! I was born in and grew up in Huntsville and still go back at least a couple times a year.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:40 (fourteen years ago)

What was your number one n/a? I'm wondering if it was one I had in my top ten that I'm sure isn't going to appear. A band made up of most of a 90's indie band?

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:40 (fourteen years ago)

I'm a Mobile guy, but been around a lot of the state numerous times + have general Bama Solidarity. xpost

I'm guessing Twin Shadow isn't going to place.

Gukbe, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:41 (fourteen years ago)

if there are people who haven't heard the swans album yet, here are a couple of standouts (to me):

jim
eden prison

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:42 (fourteen years ago)

Swans has definitely grown on me.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:42 (fourteen years ago)

I'm guessing Twin Shadow isn't going to place.

Oh man, you're right. That was in my top 10.

Tyler/Perry's "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" (jaymc), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:42 (fourteen years ago)

Who wants some Top 10?!

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:43 (fourteen years ago)

jon I'll talk about my #1 choice in the ballots thread (assuming there is one), I can't tell from your description if you're thinking about the right band or not

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:43 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTvzph5lpsI/AAAAAAAAAT8/VPILVSh1AAg/erykahbadu.jpg

10. ERYKAH BADU — New Amerykah Part Two: Return of the Ankh (780 points, 27 votes)
P&J: 23rd
Pitchfork: 18th
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:43 (fourteen years ago)

EZ, that's the idea! It samples subterranean homesick blues.

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:43 (fourteen years ago)

jon I'll talk about my #1 choice in the ballots thread (assuming there is one), I can't tell from your description if you're thinking about the right band or not

Fair enough!

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

figures...

see ya later folx!

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

My #4!

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

and, astonishingly, it is good.
Yelawolf and Juelz - Mixin Up the Medicine

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

erykah <3

i'm really glad this made the top 10 - i don't think it was gonna have anything like the poll impact that part 1 did, but i'm glad that its values and aesthetic has been recognised.

out my mind, just in time is the album's 10min closer, and maybe...her masterpiece? when the strings come in, i am transfixed.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

10 predictions for top 9 albums~~~

Ariel Pink
Big Boi
The-Dream
Janelle Monae
Lindstrom & Christabelle
Robyn
Sade
Sleigh Bells
Vampire Weekend
Kanye West

as for ranking, i'd expect kanye & big boi not to place below top 5, will be surprised if either does. what's gonna miss the countdown is another question ..... did ppl forget/not care about vampire weekend on ilx (lolindie??) or did ppl vote Sade in tracks poll, but not here?? or was lindstrom so 2009 era (when it leaked + got a euro release) that ppl didnt vote for it here?

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

Cool! Started singing it to that tune almost immediately. I have to get around to hearing the damn album.

xposts

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

I haven't heard that Yelawolf yet, but the lyrics lex posted made me immediately finish the lines with "look out kid, it's something you did, god knows when but you're doing it again..."

You'll enjoy it then :)

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:46 (fourteen years ago)

Is the rest of the Badu anywhere near as good as Window Seat? That song killed me dead.

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:46 (fourteen years ago)

Also, SO much to listen to today.

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:46 (fourteen years ago)

Also, that top 10 is fucking awful.

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:46 (fourteen years ago)

oh, actually that's juelz version. much prefer the one that's got more yela:
Yela - Mixin Up the Medicine

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:46 (fourteen years ago)

^disregard the earlier version in favor of this for sure

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:47 (fourteen years ago)

I kind of faded fast on the Erykah record. Still love it and seeing her live really helped me appreciate it, but really lacked the o_O jaw on the floor factor of part one. Which is totally not her fault, but it was going to be tough for her to top a record that hit so many of my sweet spots.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:47 (fourteen years ago)

Is the rest of the Badu anywhere near as good as Window Seat? That song killed me dead.

yes. you'll love it.

haha three youtubes of "mixin' up the medicine" have now been posted. everyone, matt dc posted the right one five minutes ago

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:47 (fourteen years ago)

xp LJ - I rate this album over part 1, so I'm going to say yes! Check the song lex linked to, it's 10 minutes long so you should love it.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:48 (fourteen years ago)

voted for erykah, fantastic laid-back counterpoint to pt. 1

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:48 (fourteen years ago)

The Juelz & Yelawof sounds good forks! Big thanks! I'll spin the other version right after.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:48 (fourteen years ago)

This top 20 is looking as bland as anything. The exception being the Caribou album, which is terrific. Emeralds is pretty, I think it may have fallen off the end of my ballot at the last though. Maybe not. Taylor Swift is a joke.

Oh. Swans? Too high, although I have been getting into the album a bit more recently. I'm going to see them live later this year, I'm wondering what to expect.

Danzig, with tears in my eyes (DavidM), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:48 (fourteen years ago)

Is the rest of the Badu anywhere near as good as Window Seat? That song killed me dead.

LJ you are going to LOSE YOUR SHIT when you hear "out my mind just in time" -- like, really really lose yr shit

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:48 (fourteen years ago)

I'm going to see them live later this year, I'm wondering what to expect.

you are going to LOSE YOUR SHIT

talk talk talk (diamonddave85), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:49 (fourteen years ago)

no way Sade makes the top 10...

skip, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:49 (fourteen years ago)

i have swans tix for this month as well..... wooo!!

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

david, the live show was great

gman59, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

Still love it and seeing her live really helped me appreciate it

yeah can we talk about how she is fucking mindblowing live, even if guaranteed to be at least two hours late? some of the tangents she goes off at are so incredible.

but really lacked the o_O jaw on the floor factor of part one.

i guess the "point" of part 2 is that it's not seeking to make your jaw hit the floor: it deliberately shies away from that POW! factor and just sneaks its way into your soul instead.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

i guess the "point" of part 2 is that it's not seeking to make your jaw hit the floor: it deliberately shies away from that POW! factor and just sneaks its way into your soul instead.

lex otm.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

That "Mixin' Up the Medicine" Matt and Forks both posted is better than the Juelz one with the video. Definitely need to hear the album.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

I'm seeing Swans at the I'll Be Your Mirror fest with Portishead, PJ Harvey, Grinderman et al.

Danzig, with tears in my eyes (DavidM), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

(for LJ)

umm hmm

agitation

gone baby, don't be long

out of my mind, just in time

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

Will be listening to Erykah in a bit. Still digesting OPN, would you believe! Loving it a lot. Wish I'd heard it earlier! Swans (amazing opening track!) and Diddy and a couple of others need a listen as well (Four Tet?)

Will give that 10-minute song a go now actually, OPN can wait :P

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

yeah can we talk about how she is fucking mindblowing live, even if guaranteed to be at least two hours late?

erykah was actually the worst show i've ever seen, probably -- over an hour late, came on stage, mumbled through two tracks ("the healer" and something else i forget) and left the stage. 10 minute show, fucking ridiculous

obviously she's not always like that but hey

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:52 (fourteen years ago)

She was only 90 minutes late when I saw her! She was so damn captivating for the entire set, best show I saw in 2010, hands down. And, lex, you are completely OTM wrt to her intentions this time around, the fault with me liking this one less lies with me and not Erykah.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:52 (fourteen years ago)

Start of the Swans record made me think of 'Plain Song' off of 'Disintegration' for the first few seconds. Liking it so far.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:54 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv5kwETawI/AAAAAAAAAXg/5AeHfQ_wK_8/robyn.jpg

9. ROBYN — Body Talk (864 points, 25 votes, 3 first place votes)
P&J: 13th
Pitchfork: 15th
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:54 (fourteen years ago)

YAY!

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:54 (fourteen years ago)

yawn

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

Erykah record is pretty cool and it looks like it'll inevitably be by far my favorite record in the top 10, but i still feel that's a little high for it, maybe she's coasting on New Amerykah Pt 1 with that placing a little bit.

Bearenthetical Grylls (some dude), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

i shouldn't complain but it really sucks to see robyn just above erykah :(

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

Every Robyn song I've heard has left me unimpressed - not much character in either the vocals or music imo. I heard "Dancing on my own" over at the trax poll, is anything here more likely to win me over?

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:56 (fourteen years ago)

what is so special about robyn, guys - what does she do better than other ppl

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:56 (fourteen years ago)

coz irrrrdgi

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:56 (fourteen years ago)

Yes! The Robyn album is just fantastic all the way through, she completely deserves to be in the top ten.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

The songs that made the trax poll are the most streamlined non-fuxxor songs on the album. There very well could be something on the album you'd dig...maybe Include Me Out.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

xps to seandalai

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

Each Erykah release Badu always slips past me for some reason. Don't know why, her voice is something else. Listening to Part Two now, and, yeah, it's sweet.

Danzig, with tears in my eyes (DavidM), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

'Out My Mind, Just In Time' = sci-fi prog'n'b trip to the far side of consciousness

^______________^

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:58 (fourteen years ago)

EZ, here's trunk muzik streaming: http://www.datpiff.com/pop-mixtape-player.php?id=m37daf45
i liked erykah's album but it didn't really stick so long.

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:58 (fourteen years ago)

LJ, when you've finished getting into this erykah album, i urge you to go back and discover her 2001 album mama's gun - it may well blow whatever remains of your mind

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:58 (fourteen years ago)

what is so special about robyn, guys - what does she do better than other ppl

It's not that she does anything better than other people. It's just that I like her and like what she does.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:58 (fourteen years ago)

fine :P

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

and ok Lex!

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

We just need Body Talk parts 1 and 2 to place now :D

Danzig, with tears in my eyes (DavidM), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

robyn trax -- first 3 were the big singles, i guess? deep cuts all fantastic too

dancing on my own
hang with me
indestructible

fembot
time machine
hang with me - acoustic
call your girlfriend
cry when you get older
include me out

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

her 2001 album mama's gun

2000, even

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:00 (fourteen years ago)

lol lex I was about to say the same thing..

I've been listening to "Out My Mind" again and I'm way out of line calling it "Green Eyes" pt. 2...don't know what the hell I was thinking...

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:00 (fourteen years ago)

O_O

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:01 (fourteen years ago)

Every Robyn song I've heard has left me unimpressed - not much character in either the vocals or music imo.

she's drawing from euro-dance, electropop, 90s house etc. -- would assume the "detached" vocals are part of the appeal for many ppl

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:02 (fourteen years ago)

Robyn album great. Call Your Girlfriend my favourite, and the second best pop song of the year (behind "Yamaha", obv).

But the whole album is trumps.

Gukbe, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:03 (fourteen years ago)

my #1, given for the project as a whole - not the most consistent set of songs, but IMO the most consistently interesting and exciting music of the year and surely what I listened to the most. For whatever reason her semi-twisted take on chart pop seemed to fit this abnormal but utterly unsurprising year in the world at large. The bad songs grew on me and the good songs got better. The question going forward is how the production holds up--wouldn't be surprised if these turn into a bunch of little "With Every Heartbeat"s, staying modern and listenable but always recalling 2010. Hard to describe the emotional attachment to a bunch of robotic pop songs but this was my year.

skip, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:03 (fourteen years ago)

"time machine" is the real puzzler on the album for me -- the verses are just kinda..... there? but then she connects HARD w/ maybe the bet chorus on the whole album

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:04 (fourteen years ago)

Window Seat didn't really do it for me on the trax poll, but holy crap! 'Out My Mind' is stupendous!!

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:04 (fourteen years ago)

best* chorus, obv.

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:04 (fourteen years ago)

Robyn just has good songs and I actually think she has a subtly affecting voice.

Danzig, with tears in my eyes (DavidM), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:05 (fourteen years ago)

only thing that frustrated me about robyn this year was to go about releasing new music in this way - didn't work for me. enough songs i really liked within them all to have made one really good pop album but everyone's personal tracklisting of that would vary i guess.

idgi fridays (blueski), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:06 (fourteen years ago)

Another (completely superficial!) reason I may be more drawn to Robyn than other women making pop is that she has absolutely zero interest in celebrity. Katy Perry and Christina Aguilera and whoever else won't get the fuck out of my consciousness for me long enough to miss them even a little bit, but Robyn is kind of like Brian Wilson (okay, not really). She's private, sort of reclusive when she's not touring, and doesn't air her dirty laundry in front of the camera.

Also, great songs (and great vocals).

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:07 (fourteen years ago)

Robyn just has good songs and I actually think she has a subtly affecting voice.
Also, great songs (and great vocals).

maybe it's just this.

skip, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:09 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv5lBWoAXI/AAAAAAAAAXk/Vz1w2dFcjPU/sleighbells.jpg

8. SLEIGH BELLS — Treats (870 points, 31 votes, 1 first place vote)
P&J: 9th
Pitchfork: 16th
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:09 (fourteen years ago)

And Demdike Stare obv :)

― LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, February 3, 2011 8:52 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

i voted for DDS, but uh, hopes is not high...

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:10 (fourteen years ago)

yeah LJ you really owe it to yourself to check out more Erykah...Mama's Gun and Worldwide Underground are also incredibly great. here are some samples from when you get the chance:

from worldwide:

danger

i want you

from mama's gun:

penitentiary philosophy

didnt cha know

...& on

2000 a.d.

green eyes

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:10 (fourteen years ago)

"danger" is such an incredible erykah back catalogue number - i'd say forgotten cuz it rarely gets talked about, but she's played it every time i've seen her live, so SHE obviously remembers it.

s0 glad sleigh bells aren't #1 like some were suggesting

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:11 (fourteen years ago)

only thing that frustrated me about robyn this year

oh also that i don't like the singles half as much as many of the deep cuts

idgi fridays (blueski), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:11 (fourteen years ago)

Love it! Love it for the same reasons I love Psychocandy, and, similarly, would've loved it more if it was even messier and noisier.

Danzig, with tears in my eyes (DavidM), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:12 (fourteen years ago)

First album with 30+ votes - over a quarter of voters had Sleigh Bells on their ballots.

(I was not one of them)

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:13 (fourteen years ago)

kanye lookin good for #1 like i've predicted since november, way to go guys :D :D :D

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:13 (fourteen years ago)

sleigh bells album's good but i didnt consider ranking it top 25

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:13 (fourteen years ago)

Janelle is winning this

idgi fridays (blueski), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:14 (fourteen years ago)

Heard a song or two when it came out and made a point of avoiding Sleigh Bells from then on. Guess I should give it another go-round. Thanks, consensus.

Gukbe, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:15 (fourteen years ago)

Sleigh Bells! Maybe the most FUN FUN FUN I've gotten out of an album last year. Sheer exuberance!

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:15 (fourteen years ago)

nahhh opinions too split, she'll appear next 2-3 albums i think

re: janelle obv

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:15 (fourteen years ago)

Thanks for the Yelawolf stream forks.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:15 (fourteen years ago)

First album with 30+ votes - over a quarter of voters had Sleigh Bells on their ballots.

(I was not one of them)

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― Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, February 3, 2011 1:13 PM (24 seconds ago) Bookmark

i thought sleigh bells wz going to be #3! ^and it wasn't that outlandish

(but I only predicted cuz I wanted top3 to be kanye-free)

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:15 (fourteen years ago)

now i think its going to be

big boi
janelle
the-dream

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:16 (fourteen years ago)

no problem, listening to it myself now!

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:16 (fourteen years ago)

^& u can bank on that lol!

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:16 (fourteen years ago)

EMERALDS – great record, but then i've loved force majeure for ages, so i'm a sucker for the sound. like the mark mcguire solo LP on mego even better,fwiw.
ONEOHTRIXPOINTNEVER – hey, look, two for the price of one.
DIDDY – still need to hear this. have come to love "ass on the floor" since the trax poll.
FOUR TET – song in the trax poll didn't do it for me, and i've never really been a fan. hebden's always been a great remixer of pop & indie stuff, but i've never found a way in to his own music. "angel echoes" is nice, but i keep wishing it'd DO SOMETHING.
CARIBOU – love this shit so bad. one of the great joys of trax list was catching up w dan snaith. had vaguely liked but never quite clicked w previous manitoba & caribous. "odessa" and "sun" are magnificent, and i'm planning on picking up the album whenever i, uh, get around to it.
LCD SOUNDSYTEM – a dude of diminishing returns
TAYLOR SWIFT – don't get this. or rather i do, but don't get into it, period.
BEACH HOUSE – ditto
YELAWOLF – have noticed ILM interest, but haven't yet heard a thing by yela. the white hillbilly rap tag hasn't piqued my curiosity, i guess. [pause] okay, "pop the trunk" is p cool. style and lyrics/storytelling are awesome, but something about the delivery doesn't sit right. i get the sense that dude is tryin really hard to convince me. will dig deeper tho.
SWANS – bought this due to the AMAZING "no words/no thoughts". gotta confess that nothing else on the album slays me quite so hard, and i genuinely dislike "spare western goth(ic)" as a style, but the good stuff far outweighs the bad.
ERYKAH – good-to-great record i was woefully slow to pick up on
ROBYN – kind of the opposite of erykah, for me. a few undeniable jams, but just i'm not a fan
SLEIGH BELLS – i like this record and stuck it in at the bottom of my list, but wish i'd saved room for something i'm more deeply committed to. nothing wrong with it, but the flavor doesn't last long.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:16 (fourteen years ago)

like the mark mcguire solo LP on mego even better,fwiw.

same here

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:18 (fourteen years ago)

kanye lookin good for #1 like i've predicted since november, way to go guys :D :D :D

― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, February 3, 2011 1:13 PM

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv0vIEIZ3I/AAAAAAAAAU8/e-FbT01jsm4/kanye.jpg

7. KANYE WEST — My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (928 points, 29 votes, 2 first place votes)
P&J: 1st
Pitchfork: 1st
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:19 (fourteen years ago)

More love here for Mark McGuire 'Living With Yourself' on Mego here too.. Emeralds was my record of 2010, gave me the most pleasure, but 'Living With Yourself' is hella moving for what's essentially a folk ambient/kosmiche record. Emeralds just make me super happy every time I hear it.

the worst dong of the last ten years (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:19 (fourteen years ago)

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

I figured it was coming up soon!

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:19 (fourteen years ago)

Another (completely superficial!) reason I may be more drawn to Robyn than other women making pop is that she has absolutely zero interest in celebrity. Katy Perry and Christina Aguilera and whoever else won't get the fuck out of my consciousness for me long enough to miss them even a little bit, but Robyn is kind of like Brian Wilson (okay, not really). She's private, sort of reclusive when she's not touring, and doesn't air her dirty laundry in front of the camera.

Also, great songs (and great vocals).

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, February 3, 2011 1:07 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is just a convenient catch 22 imo -- of course people who have a moderate or boutique kind of level of commercial success get to have an amount of mystique or normal person appeal that hugely ubiquitous pop stars don't, and sure a lot of that comes down to one person having that hunger for fame and the other not, but it's like a chicken and the egg thing, and really you don't know how someone would handle huge fame unless they attained it.

hercudeez and nuts affair (some dude), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:20 (fourteen years ago)

kanye missing the top 5 is pretty awesome

hercudeez and nuts affair (some dude), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:20 (fourteen years ago)

:D

prolego, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:20 (fourteen years ago)

(that mightve been an overreaction)

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:20 (fourteen years ago)

Poor Kanye.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:20 (fourteen years ago)

kanye missing the top 5 is pretty awesome

― hercudeez and nuts affair (some dude), Thursday, February 3, 2011 6:20 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

:D

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:21 (fourteen years ago)

iirc Robyn IS hugely famous in Sweden, despite staying out of the spotlight as much as she can. Granted, Sweden is almost like a diorama when compared to the US and UK, but still. xps to some dude

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:22 (fourteen years ago)

I should probably listen to that Kanye record, huh? But first I will read that megathread on it. Let's go!

*He does not move*

Jeff W, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:22 (fourteen years ago)

never read a megathread before hearing an album

idgi fridays (blueski), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:23 (fourteen years ago)

FUCK YES! so glad this didn't take #1, or even top 5 sweet, satisfying backlash (and i at least half like the album).

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:23 (fourteen years ago)

yeah american fame seems like a dramatically different beast compared to fame in most other countries

hercudeez and nuts affair (some dude), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:23 (fourteen years ago)

If the ballot had allowed for 200 choices, I probably still wouldn't have included the Kanye album. "Power" on the tracks poll, yeah. But the album is an overlong wasteland.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:23 (fourteen years ago)

2 first place votes

^^people who should be tarred & feathered along with those who put "tik tok" top of their trax ballots

god, maybe they were the same people

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:23 (fourteen years ago)

no JF was one of them and he just said he didn't vote for it at all...

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:24 (fourteen years ago)

enchanted - prob my favourite non-single on the album. i love the note of dread that sneaks in unbidden towards the end.

--lex

thank you! i thought i was the only one who loved "enchanted" this much.

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:25 (fourteen years ago)

I voted for TiK ToK, but not #1.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:25 (fourteen years ago)

The girl on the Kanye alum cover is a PAWG!

(Have only heard the album once through. Sounded alright. Love "Runaway" tho)

Danzig, with tears in my eyes (DavidM), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:25 (fourteen years ago)

That Kanye album is really great and is deservedly top 10.

Gukbe, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:25 (fourteen years ago)

interesting to see that albums have suffered a backlash after being so high in many other polls.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:26 (fourteen years ago)

like anco etc last year

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:26 (fourteen years ago)

Had no idea the Kanye cover was a Condo painting until I read the article in the New Yorker.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:26 (fourteen years ago)

diddy probably would have been in the 10-12 range had it gotten my first place vote and deej's high placement. too low, but oh well

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:26 (fourteen years ago)

My Beautiful Dark Twisted Seventh-Place Fantasy

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:27 (fourteen years ago)

Just noticed that Kanye was number 7 on my ballot. Since we've created some sort of dichotomy between it and Diddy Dirty Money, I'll ad that it is better than Diddy Dirty Money (but only slightly).

Gukbe, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:27 (fourteen years ago)

diddy probably would have been in the 10-12 range had it gotten my first place vote and deej's high placement

omfg you didn't vote either?!

>:(

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:27 (fourteen years ago)

Good work ILX

I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:28 (fourteen years ago)

really hate that kanye west guy, so thanks ilm for not voting him any higher

charlie h, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:29 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTvynkNSBnI/AAAAAAAAAS8/_g97jwnMI1w/arielpink.jpg

6. ARIEL PINK'S HAUNTED GRAFFITI — Before Today (938 points, 30 votes, 2 first place votes)
P&J: 16th
Pitchfork: 9th
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:29 (fourteen years ago)

^^^^ excellent album

charlie h, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:29 (fourteen years ago)

Listened to both 'Eden Prison' by Swans and 'Out My Mind Just In Time' by Erykah. Really liked the Swans, even the overly serious vocals (though they did make me chuckle somewhat) - the layers of sound are really amazing on this. Couldn't get with the Erykah: there are some very nice subtle touches but as a whole it just doesn't strike me in the same way that Part One did.

Emeralds was my record of 2010, gave me the most pleasure

― the worst dong of the last ten years (Craigo Boingo)

For those who were paying attention upthread, this is probably why I make too much of a big deal about Emeralds not being that great even though I liked it enough to include it as one of the best albums of the year.

xpost This takes me up to FIVE whole albums from my 25.

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:30 (fourteen years ago)

My #2!

Moodles, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:30 (fourteen years ago)

Oh, was going to say that whoever said earlier that they thought that not digging Part Two as much as Part One was more their fault than Erykah's, I'm sort of feeling that way too.

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:31 (fourteen years ago)

the Kanye album ended up growing on me a good bit, it's no Late Registration or 808s but I'd rank it over Graduation and (*AHEM*) The College Dropout fo sho'......... here's a few choice trax that weren't singles

so appalled
hell of a life
lost in the world

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:32 (fourteen years ago)

Ariel Pink A+++

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

If the ballot had allowed for 200 choices, I probably still wouldn't have included the Kanye album. "Power" on the tracks poll, yeah. But the album is an overlong wasteland.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:23 (6 minutes ago)

thissssssss

erykah album is awesommmmmmmmmmmmmme

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

If I had to pick one track from Before Today it'd be "L'Estat", but it's more the unexpected twists and turns of the record as a whole that I like more than any one song. I put it near the bottom of my ballot.

Jeff W, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

ariel pink leaves me cold, just strikes me as "oh..... pleasant" when a hook comes around but that's it ;_;

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

As I said over on trax I don't like this (or any) Ariel Pink album as much as I feel I should. Oh well.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:34 (fourteen years ago)

Thought this was a no.1 contesant though!

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:34 (fourteen years ago)

LJ do you like Part One? Can't remember if you'd got into it or not. It's like five gazillion times more mind-blowing.

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:34 (fourteen years ago)

Aww why U braek heart Ilxor ;_;

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:34 (fourteen years ago)

so appalled
hell of a life
lost in the world

― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:32 (43 seconds ago)

these are the best 3 album trax for sure, and they're STILL kinda shitty

'power' (1.5 minute version) is awesome, shame the whole album wasn't an earl sweatshirt style 25-minute romp

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:34 (fourteen years ago)

i think we got LJ into part 1 in the 2008 poll!

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:35 (fourteen years ago)

which erykah album you talkin about Louis?

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:35 (fourteen years ago)

I second the love for "L'Estat".

Moodles, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:35 (fourteen years ago)

It's like five gazillion times more mind-blowing.

Possibly an understatement even.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:35 (fourteen years ago)

High Swans placement is GREAT too btw

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:35 (fourteen years ago)

i think we got LJ into part 1 in the 2008 poll!

I LOLLED :)

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:36 (fourteen years ago)

First Erykah album was really good and I need to return to it. I ended up liking 'Twinkle' way more than the rest. I think 2011-era me would get his mind blown over again.

This Erykah album (the newest one) is really subtle and lush and dark and moody and great :)

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:36 (fourteen years ago)

Really had forgotten how much of a jam 'Round And Round' is until seeing it again recently on Jimmy Fallon and done by those schoolkids. Didn't submit a list for this but APHG was 17 in a list I did in mid-December, would probably be a touch higher now.

'L'Estat' through to 'Beverley Kills' is a BEAST of a quality run.

the worst dong of the last ten years (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:37 (fourteen years ago)

First Nu AmErykah album, even, lol

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:37 (fourteen years ago)

Who's ready to bust into the Top 5?

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:37 (fourteen years ago)

erykah's entire discography is great, i dont get u guys cherry-picking albums "this one's the mindblowing one" "no this one" really it's all good

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:37 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv9B484ywI/AAAAAAAAAZA/pRBt-8s5gaE/vampireweekend.jpg

5. VAMPIRE WEEKEND — Contra (940 points, 28 votes, 1 first place vote)
P&J: 5th
Pitchfork: 6th
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:37 (fourteen years ago)

RIP

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:38 (fourteen years ago)

uh yawn

charlie h, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:38 (fourteen years ago)

someone must like this though?

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:38 (fourteen years ago)

Did anyone link to this on the tracks thread? Honestly can't remember.

xpost BOOOO

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:38 (fourteen years ago)

Yarrrr bring it on Johnny F!

xp LJ Ur A Contra!

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:38 (fourteen years ago)

i like it, didn't vote for it.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:39 (fourteen years ago)

have yet to hear contra still! i don't know why i avoided it earlier in the year

ciderpress, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:39 (fourteen years ago)

I still love this record, but I feel like everything there will ever be to say about it by anyone anywhere has already been said.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:39 (fourteen years ago)

Contra is great, and I was in my top 10.

Ariel Pink I do not understand at all. I just hear 70s pastiche but what do I know.

Gukbe, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:39 (fourteen years ago)

top 5 predictions~~~

5. vampire weekend
4. lindstrom & christabelle
3. janelle monae
2. big boi
1. the-dream

xp oh look there's #5

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:40 (fourteen years ago)

did ilxor just recommend "so appalled" from that kanye album?

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:40 (fourteen years ago)

erykah's entire discography is great, i dont get u guys cherry-picking albums "this one's the mindblowing one" "no this one" really it's all good

yeah i basically agree with this tbh - basically LJ needs to hear all of them

*ignores latest album*

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:40 (fourteen years ago)

ilxor maybe let the top 4 roll out without more speculation

omar little, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

xp to ilxor

Aside from #5, you are wrong.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

erykah apart this top 10 has been dreadful tho

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

surprised L&C album would be this high after all this time but i guess it's either that or Sade

idgi fridays (blueski), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

don't care at all for vampire weekend, but so glad to see ariel pink break out of the cult kook ghetto and become one of america's little golden darlings

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:42 (fourteen years ago)

erykah's entire discography is great, i dont get u guys cherry-picking albums "this one's the mindblowing one" "no this one" really it's all good

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I haven't heard Baduizm so I cant recommend it, but since the other four are some of the best albums released in the last 15 years, it can't be shite...still I've recommended everything I've heard.

LJ u are going to love Worldwide Underground.

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:42 (fourteen years ago)

my number one.

Didn't care for the first album too much. Wrote them off. This one blew me away completely. "Taxi Cab" "Diplomats Son" "think ur a contra". I love it.

gman59, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:42 (fourteen years ago)

Contra's a good album, but most of the songs were done with just a bit too much lightness for me to truly love it.

Moodles, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:42 (fourteen years ago)

L&C and Vampire Weekend came out within a week of each other iirc, so I don't know why one would be surprising and the other wouldn't.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:42 (fourteen years ago)

I really had no idea people rated that Vampire Weekend album so highly, I like it and all but it doesn't have the evocative feel of the first one. Kanye placing at 7 is lololololol though.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:43 (fourteen years ago)

(wut's this latest newest album u r ignoring Lex?)

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:43 (fourteen years ago)

The last track on VW is the best thing they've ever done imo.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:43 (fourteen years ago)

Contra is great, and I was in my top 10.

Ariel Pink I do not understand at all. I just hear 70s pastiche but what do I know.

― Gukbe, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:39 (17 seconds ago)

There's stuff that sounds like all sorts in there, I know a lot of people who've dismissed it for the two singles which sound Hall & Oatesy but 'Bright Lit Blue Skies' is a straight 60s garage band cover and 'Butthouse Blondies' sounds a bit Stone Temple Pilots to my shonky ears. And the last track is pretty decent gothy post punk. S'a'good mix.

I really cannot get with Vampire Weekend at all.

the worst dong of the last ten years (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:43 (fourteen years ago)

Emil.y thank you sooooo for that video! ;_;

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:43 (fourteen years ago)

hi thread, happy to see some of my favorites up here in the top 20

sleeve, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:44 (fourteen years ago)

Definitely preferred the first Vampire Weekend over this.

Moodles, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:44 (fourteen years ago)

(wut's this latest newest album u r ignoring Lex?)

Think that was referring to VW.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:44 (fourteen years ago)

surprised L&C album would be this high after all this time but i guess it's either that or Sade

Its ILM so i'd expect it to be the L&C, but i still think sade is a lock. Lotsa yuppies on ilx ;)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:45 (fourteen years ago)

#4 is comin' up...

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:45 (fourteen years ago)

(wut's this latest newest album u r ignoring Lex?)

i'm ignoring vampire weekend

but YOU need to get on some baduizm omg, you of all people! it's as incredible as the rest tbh

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:45 (fourteen years ago)

did ilxor just recommend "so appalled" from that kanye album?-

well i thought you'd pick up on my saying Fantasy is better than College Dropout, but yes, i did recommend "so appalled"

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:45 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv0YNM8m2I/AAAAAAAAAUo/ExTE_sNihfE/janellemonae.jpg

4. JANELLE MONÁE — The ArchAndroid (1,126 points, 35 votes, 3 first place votes)
P&J: 4th
Pitchfork: 12th
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:46 (fourteen years ago)

Still a spot for Demdike Stare ppl!

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:46 (fourteen years ago)

thank god this is out of the way

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:46 (fourteen years ago)

The last track on VW is the best thing they've ever done imo.

agree; especially if it's the last song they ever put out ^__________________^

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:46 (fourteen years ago)

wow so wtf is going to win this thing?

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:46 (fourteen years ago)

big boi?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

am listening to 'i think ur a contra' right now for the purposes of fairness

what i've heard of 'the archandroid' is pretty good fwiw, need to hear the whole thing, call all destroyer has has his one designated 'LJ on LCD Soundsystem' post

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

points jump!

Jeff W, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

ilms fave the-dream will win

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

the others have a bit of a backlash from other polls i think

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

Demdike! Demdike!

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

3 first place votes for Janelle!!

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not mad keen on the Archandroid as a whole but at the same time I wouldn't have minded if it had been #1. But since Kanye and Ariel Pink are out of the way I'm not too bothered.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

TOO LOW... Janelle was my #1

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

This was somewhere down the bottom of my ballot - I listened to it a lot for a month or two over the summer, but now I just come back to a couple of tracks (Wondaland, Tightrope, Make the Bus).

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

lol @ demdike chanting from emil.y

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

c'mon CocoRosie you can do it

idgi fridays (blueski), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

Demdike! Demdike!

― emil.y, donderdag 3 februari 2011 19:47

:-D

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:49 (fourteen years ago)

Crazy if Dream wins with an album no one thinks is his best.

abcfsk, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:49 (fourteen years ago)

3 first place votes for Janelle!!

same as for ciara :)

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:49 (fourteen years ago)

ArchAndroid is ridiculous but has some amazing tracks on it.

Danzig, with tears in my eyes (DavidM), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:49 (fourteen years ago)

xp - Well, something has to win!

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:49 (fourteen years ago)

c'mon CocoRosie you can do it

take consolation in the fact they'd win a "worst album covers 2010" poll

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:50 (fourteen years ago)

maybe a guitar album will place out of nowhere and give ILM its first ever rock album winner? Did Anal Cunt have an album out this year?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:50 (fourteen years ago)

I didn't even vote Demdike Stare that high but that was more because I felt like I hadn't listened to it enough rather than not thinking it was great.

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

wondering wtf this curveball is...I think Big Boi and The-Dream are a lock for top 2, but #3 doesn't seem right for Sade or L&C

just when I was writing off ILX polls' top 10s as predictable...!

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

'Real Life Is No Cool' couldn't possibly be number one, could it? That and 'Wut' topping the two polls would represent some kind of victory.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

It's kind of funny that nobody (as far as I recall) has even mentioned James Blake on this thread, given that his "greatest hits" was #8 in Pitchfork.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

Crazy if Dream wins with an album no one thinks is his best.

isnt that what usually happens? people playing catch up cuz they missed the earlier albums.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

'i think ur a contra'.......ffs there is only one radiohead you spanners

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

it's Eminem isn't it? Guys: you can stop fronting!

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

It's kind of funny that nobody (as far as I recall) has even mentioned James Blake on this thread, given that his "greatest hits" was #8 in Pitchfork.

he didn't even place in the trax top 77 :D

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

also, it's just not my thing soz VW I tried I really tried

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

That and 'Wut' topping the two polls would represent some kind of victory.

deathtoamerica.jpg

idgi fridays (blueski), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

chrome hoof out of fucking nowhere

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

Crazy if Dream wins with an album no one thinks is his best.

isnt that what usually happens? people playing catch up cuz they missed the earlier albums.

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, February 3, 2011 6:51 PM (49 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

basically, yeah

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

i was sort of hoping the overrated the-dream would place in the 8-10 range tbh, but it is at least better than a lot of the others in the top 10

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

On certain days I'd say Love King might be his best but then we don't need to go into 'rank Terius albums' for the nth time.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:53 (fourteen years ago)

Crazy if Dream wins with an album no one thinks is his best.

isnt that what usually happens? people playing catch up cuz they missed the earlier albums.

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, February 3, 2011 6:51 PM (49 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

basically, yeah

― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, February 3, 2011 1:52 PM (2 seconds ago)

yup

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:53 (fourteen years ago)

gonna be The Fall

sleeve, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:53 (fourteen years ago)

Also, his fanbase on this board grows with every subsequent release so it makes sense he'd finish higher and higher each time.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:53 (fourteen years ago)

go Lindstrom for #1!!

skip, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:53 (fourteen years ago)

Gorillaz' The Fall

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:54 (fourteen years ago)

That's not necessarily playing catch-up, it's just more people voting.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:54 (fourteen years ago)

i dont like the dream but its not as if im going to like whatever places tbh but it would be fun if there was a real curveball that we're all missing

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:54 (fourteen years ago)

(YFOC happened aaaages ago)

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:54 (fourteen years ago)

wait guys... deathspell omega haven't placed yet.

charlie h, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:54 (fourteen years ago)

I think VW as a band is not bad, and I suspect the guitarist is secretly fucking awesome!

Big Boi is totally #1; I've been proven wrong re:#3 twice now, but never deviated from it...

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:54 (fourteen years ago)

but i still think the-dream will win due to it not having a backlash like with other big albums

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:55 (fourteen years ago)

If I didn't know the results, I'd be all "FOREST SWORDS! FOREST SWORDS!"

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:55 (fourteen years ago)

wait guys... deathspell omega haven't placed yet.

― charlie h, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:54 (2 seconds ago)

I VOTED

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:55 (fourteen years ago)

Also, his fanbase on this board grows with every subsequent release so it makes sense he'd finish higher and higher each time.

― Matt DC, Thursday, February 3, 2011 6:53 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

^^^^THIS

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:55 (fourteen years ago)

gonna be The Fall

― sleeve, donderdag 3 februari 2011 19:53 (18 seconds ago)

Sleeve (my singles poll neighbour!), that would make me very very happy!

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:55 (fourteen years ago)

Going to be so awesome when the Ed Kowalcyk album tops this.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:55 (fourteen years ago)

it = Chico Dusty taking the whole enchilada

c'mon Bardo Pond!

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:55 (fourteen years ago)

For AG - the 2010 Anal Cunt record cover:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CNREPdvq7Cc/TRHOnMeVc4I/AAAAAAAAErE/kxYd5dobKGc/s1600/Anal+Cunt+-+Fuckin%2527+A.jpg

They love Crue, just like you.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:55 (fourteen years ago)

any electro-dribble album that could place? that's the only curveball i can think of

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:56 (fourteen years ago)

http://allmetalresource.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/darkthrone_circlethewagons.jpg
4. DARKTHRONE — Circle the Wagons (1,237 points, 32 votes, 4 first place votes)
P&J: DNP
Pitchfork: DNP
Spotify: listen

omar little, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:56 (fourteen years ago)

The-Dream is so loved as an artist that in a poll where's there little consensus (v few #1 votes for any one LP) any release from them would benefit from that (see also MIA, altho on this basis LCD could've been higher). Big Boi also benefits from a 'name you can trust' pov. Not a good year for debutants?

idgi fridays (blueski), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:56 (fourteen years ago)

Los Campesinos! !

Danzig, with tears in my eyes (DavidM), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:56 (fourteen years ago)

hmm i messed that up a bit

omar little, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:57 (fourteen years ago)

i almost think it would be kinda cool if a bunch of people colluded to place an off-the-radar album in the top 5 and kept it secret

just for the moment of excitement it would produce on these threads

ciderpress, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:57 (fourteen years ago)

EZ as far as that shitty hair metal goes, the crue were clearly easily one of the better ones, behind hanoi rocks and guns n roses

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:57 (fourteen years ago)

would be great to see real life is no cool finish top 3. knew that it had a following on ILM, but not to that extent...

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:57 (fourteen years ago)

xp ciderpress: We already had that - didn't you notice who won the tracks poll?

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:57 (fourteen years ago)

i like Love King fine but i could not bring myself to give him any help in an ILM poll

hercudeez and nuts affair (some dude), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:58 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv3IPiclYI/AAAAAAAAAW0/9dDLslvqw_g/thedream.jpg

3. THE-DREAM — Love King (1,148 points, 35 votes, 3 first place votes)
P&J: 33rd
Pitchfork: 30th
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:58 (fourteen years ago)

!!!!

Blimey, what's in the top 2 then?

Contenderizer - I think 'Where You Go I Go Too' also finished Top 3 in 2008. ILMers be loving Lindstrom.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:58 (fourteen years ago)

ok lol

idgi fridays (blueski), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:58 (fourteen years ago)

someone shd fakepost Big Boi at #2

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:58 (fourteen years ago)

would love to see a metal overthrow push. It could happen!

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:58 (fourteen years ago)

Not a good year for debutants?

depending on whether you count janelle monáe's earlier EP, either she or yelawolf is the highest debutant(e) (and the only one(s) in the top 20? unless ONP or emeralds are new artists.)

xps !!!!!!

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:58 (fourteen years ago)

never really got into love king :(

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:59 (fourteen years ago)

That's not necessarily playing catch-up, it's just more people voting.

― Matt DC, Thursday, February 3, 2011 1:54 PM (3 minutes ago)

keeping in mind that i've found myself disagreeing with basically every terius-related post of yours over the last couple years i don't think you're really drawing much of a distinction here

xp aaand there it is

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:59 (fourteen years ago)

no wait i did vote for it -- fuck sorry guys i'm part of the problem

hercudeez and nuts affair (some dude), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:59 (fourteen years ago)

woooooooooo NOT THE NUMBER ONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE thankig U god!

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:59 (fourteen years ago)

<3 love king <3

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:59 (fourteen years ago)

for the first three albums yes but after that nooooooo xpost re: crue

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:59 (fourteen years ago)

Demdike! Demdike!

― emil.y, donderdag 3 februari 2011 19:47

The smart money is on Shackleton tbh

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:59 (fourteen years ago)

GODDAMNIT QUIT XPOSTING ME I WANNA TALK ABOUT MOTLEY CRUE FOR NO GOOD REASON SHEESH

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:00 (fourteen years ago)

I wonder if people would think differently about Love King if Sex Intelligent pts 1 and 2 were back in the second half of the album rather than right near the star.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:00 (fourteen years ago)

i'm not gonna bitch about ILM having warped Teriucentric R&B priorities though since Last Train To Paris and Jazmine and Erykah at least placed

hercudeez and nuts affair (some dude), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:00 (fourteen years ago)

unless ONP or emeralds are new artists

Both of these have put out a gazillion records

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:00 (fourteen years ago)

anyway, love king, good album. search "FILA", "yamaha" and "turnt out"

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:00 (fourteen years ago)

imaginary stapletone record for the win

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:00 (fourteen years ago)

Hang on - that Delphic album hasn't placed yet!!!!

Danzig, with tears in my eyes (DavidM), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:01 (fourteen years ago)

anyway, love king, good album. search "FILA", "yamaha" and "turnt out"

otm re: best 3 trax

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:01 (fourteen years ago)

oh well i got that wrong then. big boi it is ( L&C vs Sade for #2)

L&C is very much ILM music but surely it cant place that high as it was out 2009?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:01 (fourteen years ago)

i'm probably the only one who finds it amusing that someone who calls himself "big boi" is set to take out the poll.

charlie h, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:01 (fourteen years ago)

i kind of love 'abyss'

ciderpress, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:01 (fourteen years ago)

imaginary stapletone record for the win

IRL LOL's

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:01 (fourteen years ago)

I love the first two Crue records without reservation. So damn good.

xposts to the Motley Crew

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:01 (fourteen years ago)

keeping in mind that i've found myself disagreeing with basically every terius-related post of yours over the last couple years i don't think you're really drawing much of a distinction here

The distinction is that 30 people voting Love King around #10 in their ballot would still finish as high or maybe higher than 15 people voting one of the previous albums in their top five.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:01 (fourteen years ago)

I wonder if people would think differently about Love King if Sex Intelligent pts 1 and 2 were back in the second half of the album rather than right near the star.

― Matt DC, Thursday, February 3, 2011 2:00 PM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this did majorly fuck with the album's flow imo

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:01 (fourteen years ago)

me 2 xxxp

sleeve, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:02 (fourteen years ago)

this did majorly fuck with the album's flow imo

would've worked w/ just "sex intelligent" in that spot, it's the additiona 5+ min of the reeeeeemix ("....this dope shiiiiit") that really messes w/ the flow

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:02 (fourteen years ago)

I even tracked down the Leathur records version of the debut, because it is different and also awesome.

xposts to the Motley Crew

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:02 (fourteen years ago)

i'm probably the only one who finds it amusing that someone who calls himself "big boi" is set to take out the poll.

― charlie h, Thursday, February 3, 2011 2:01 PM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

u probably are, grandpa

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:03 (fourteen years ago)

the-dream - florida university

what rhymes with asshole? ahem - asshole.

~~ F U F U F U F U F U F U ~~

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:03 (fourteen years ago)

yeah ilxor i'd agree with that too

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:03 (fourteen years ago)

yeah and the point is that people are "playing catch up" because they weren't paying enough attention before and are just now picking up on him xxxxxp

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:03 (fourteen years ago)

"That's not necessarily playing catch-up, it's just more people voting."

keeping in mind that i've found myself disagreeing with basically every terius-related post of yours over the last couple years i don't think you're really drawing much of a distinction here

― originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Thursday, February 3, 2011 10:59 AM (3 seconds ago) Bookmark

the difference is spin. are you the kind of person who enjoys the opportunity to sneer at "latecomers" because you were first and therefore oh so much cooler? or are the kind of person who's happy to see a favorite artist pick up new fans?

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:03 (fourteen years ago)

kind of assholes vs. bros there, tbh

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

anyway it's about that time JF should post a really dull dream-house album in at #2, let's have it

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

shoulda made "sex intel. remix" a bonus track and put "veteran" or "take care of me" on the album proper (i realize i'm alone on the latter one, sorry, it's fabulous)

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

Yamaha is a nice track I suppose

skip, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

yeah and the point is that people are "playing catch up" because they weren't paying enough attention before and are just now picking up on him xxxxxp

Yeah if only they'd kept to the agreed Terius Studies curriculum we wouldn't be in this situation.

what rhymes with asshole? ahem - asshole.

^^^ Probably my favourite musical moment of the year.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

Is it time for Salem?

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

the remix is the better song and the back-to-back thing works fine in the kells tradition; neither of the songs are especially strong, is the problem

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:05 (fourteen years ago)

if big boi was #2 then noone could guess what was #1. that would be kinda fun

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:05 (fourteen years ago)

L&C is very much ILM music but surely it cant place that high as it was out 2009?
You'd think. OTOH it was cruelly booted off the ballot last year on some spurious grounds or other. So maybe people (i.e. me) have been waiting patiently. That said, I thought it stood no chance so put somewhere fairly low down, 15th or so.

Jeff W, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:05 (fourteen years ago)

would've worked w/ just "sex intelligent" in that spot, it's the additiona 5+ min of the reeeeeemix ("....this dope shiiiiit") that really messes w/ the flow

heresy the remix is one of the peaks of the album.

"cuz there's another level / after that other level / he's on that plane level / and i'm space shuttle..."

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:05 (fourteen years ago)

Lindstrom Lindstrom Lindstrom

skip, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:05 (fourteen years ago)

xxp actually i'd be pretty confident that there's no curveball at #1, whereas #2 is possible i think

ciderpress, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:05 (fourteen years ago)

the difference is spin. are you the kind of person who enjoys the opportunity to sneer at "latecomers" because you were first and therefore oh so much cooler? or are the kind of person who's happy to see a favorite artist pick up new fans?

― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, February 3, 2011 2:03 PM (1 minute ago)

well you're putting words in my mouth - i'm not making a personal judgment on these imaginary people we're talking about, i'm just saying that's what happened

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:06 (fourteen years ago)

it's gonna be that lindstrom album, ILM may have its moments but it's not unpredictable

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:06 (fourteen years ago)

what rhymes with asshole? ahem - asshole.

^^^ Probably my favourite musical moment of the year.

― Matt DC, Thursday, February 3, 2011 11:04 AM (27 seconds ago) Bookmark

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:06 (fourteen years ago)

Christian Mistress oh your time has come...

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:06 (fourteen years ago)

^lol

gman59, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:06 (fourteen years ago)

neither of the songs are especially strong, is the problem

!!!! also heresy. "sex intelligent" has one of his most mindblowing beats

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:06 (fourteen years ago)

Given that 'Lovesick' placed reasonably high in the tracks poll it's inconceivable to me that the album would miss out on the whole list.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:06 (fourteen years ago)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Xy0lo%2BmEL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

2. DIE ANTWOORD — $O$ (1,528 points, 56 votes, 3 first place votes)
P&J: DNP
Pitchfork: DNP

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61IQ6kVnAoL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

1. SALEM — King Night (1,744 points, 69 votes, 5 first place votes)
P&J: DNP
Pitchfork: DNP

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:07 (fourteen years ago)

booooooo

skip, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:07 (fourteen years ago)

the heresy was my using "are" instead of "is", ugh

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:07 (fourteen years ago)

yelawolf and die antwoord use the same font?

gman59, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:08 (fourteen years ago)

haaaaa shd have made Big Boi the #1, would have briefly had me

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:08 (fourteen years ago)

Obvious fake - Salem was 76th in P&J. Do your homework, dude.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:08 (fourteen years ago)

I'm revealing #'s 1 & 2 simultaneously. Ready?

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:08 (fourteen years ago)

Lex you know that appalling painting that was in your old housemate's living room, with the celestial Turkish bath in space and the nebula raging in the background and the buff blokes in the sauna? 'Sex Intelligent' is king of the aural equivalent of that, it is transcendently ridiculous and it knows it. That's the appeal really.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:08 (fourteen years ago)

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h279/juicyfrt/1291713673_1761t.jpg
2. BARDO POND - Bardo Pond (1,695 Points, 33 votes, 7 first place votes)
P&J: DNP
Pitchfork: yeah fucking right

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:08 (fourteen years ago)

^^^ I WISH

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

too many joek posts, people!

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

yup

sleeve, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

*drum roll*

the worst dong of the last ten years (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

*cough*

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

it's a tradition!

ciderpress, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

*trumpets*

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

*crickets*

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

To recap (and to create some distance)

77. HARVEY MILK — A Small Turn of Human Kindness (240 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
76. QUADRON — Quadron (240 points, 12 votes)
75. RIHANNA — Loud (244 points, 9 votes)
74. ZOLA JESUS — Stridulum II (244 points, 10 votes)
73. THIRD EYE FOUNDATION — The Dark (246 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes)
(TIE) 71. THE TALLEST MAN ON EARTH — The Wild Hunt (250 points, 8 votes)
(TIE) 71. KYLIE MINOGUE — Aphrodite (250 points, 8 votes)
70. WARPAINT — The Fool (250 points, 9 votes)
69. SUN ARAW — On Patrol (252 points, 8 votes)
68. NO AGE — Everything in Between (256 points, 11 votes)
67. GAYNGS — Relayted (258 points, 10 votes)
66. GUCCI MANE — Mr. Zone 6 (260 points, 9 votes)
65. SUN CITY GIRLS — Funeral Mariachi (260 points, 9 votes, 2 first place votes)
64. THE RADIO DEPT. — Clinging to a Scheme (266 points, 11 votes)
63. THE KNIFE — Tomorrow, In a Year (270 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
62. THE NATIONAL — High Violet (270 points, 9 votes)
61. ENSLAVED — Axioma Ethica Odini (272 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)

60. KELIS — Flesh Tone (272 points, 11 votes)
59. CURREN$Y — Pilot Talk II (272 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)
58. IKONIKA — Contact, Love, Want, Have (276 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote)
57. R. KELLY — Love Letter (284 points, 12 votes)
56. THE CHEMICAL BROTHERS — Further (286 points, 10 votes)
(TIE) 54. NEIL YOUNG — Le Noise (290 points, 11 votes)
(TIE) 54. THE FALL — Your Future Our Clutter (290 points, 11 votes)
53. RANGDA — False Flag (306 points, 9 votes)
52. JAVIERA MENA - Mena (310 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes)
51. CRYSTAL CASTLES — Crystal Castles (312 points, 13 votes)
50. GORILLAZ — Plastic Beach (316 points, 12 votes)
49. MARINA & THE DIAMONDS — The Family Jewels (320 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)
48. DEERHUNTER — Halcyon Digest (320 points, 13 votes)
47. ELECTRIC WIZARD — Black Masses (334 points, 10 votes)
46. BIG K.R.I.T. — K.R.I.T. Wuz Here (344 points, 11 votes)
45. PANTHA DU PRINCE — Black Noise (348 points, 15 votes)
44. TYLER, THE CREATOR — Bastard (352 points, 14 votes)
43. SPOON — Transference (374 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)
42. RICK ROSS — Teflon Don (380 points, 12 votes)
41. YEASAYER — Odd Blood (380 points, 13 votes)

40. WE LOVE — We Love (380 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote)
39. JAZMINE SULLIVAN — Love Me Back (404 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)
38. TITUS ANDRONICUS — The Monitor (410 points, 15 votes, 4 first place votes)
37. THESE NEW PURITANS — Hidden (414 points, 13 votes)
36. AGALLOCH — Marrow of the Spirit (420 points, 13 votes, 1 first place vote)
35. CIARA — Basic Instinct (438 points, 14 votes, 3 first place votes)
34. FLYING LOTUS — Cosmogramma (462 points, 17 votes)
33. EARL SWEATSHIRT — Earl (474 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote)
32. ARCADE FIRE — The Suburbs (478 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote)
31. GUIDO — Anidea (480 points, 17 votes)
30. E-40 — Revenue Retrievin' (484 points, 16 votes, 1 first place vote)
29. HOT CHIP — One Life Stand (490 points, 17 votes, 2 first place votes)
28. LAURA MARLING — I Speak Because I Can (516 points, 15 votes, 2 first place votes)
27. OWEN PALLETT — Heartland (544 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)
26. GIL SCOTT-HERON — I'm New Here (544 points, 20 votes)
25. SCHOOL OF SEVEN BELLS — Disconnect From Desire (550 points, 20 votes, 2 first place votes)
24. WAKA FLOCKA FLAME — Flockaveli (558 points, 20 votes, 1 first place vote)
23. M.I.A. — /\/\ /\ Y /\ (560 points, 18 votes, 1 first place vote)
22. GLASSER — Ring (570 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)
21. JOANNA NEWSOM — Have One on Me (636 points, 17 votes, 2 first place votes)

20. EMERALDS — Does it Look Like I'm Here? (660 points, 23 votes, 2 first place votes)
19. ONEOHTRIX POINT NEVER — Returnal (710 points, 21 votes, 1 first place vote)
18. DIDDY-DIRTY MONEY — Last Train to Paris (722 points, 18 votes, 2 first place votes)
17. FOUR TET — There Is Love in You (724 points, 26 votes, 1 first place vote)
16. CARIBOU — Swim (730 points, 27 votes)
15. LCD SOUNDSYSTEM — This Is Happening (734 points, 21 votes)
14. TAYLOR SWIFT — Speak Now (736 points, 21 votes, 2 first place votes)
13. BEACH HOUSE — Teen Dream (742 points, 24 votes, 3 first place votes)
12. YELAWOLF — Trunk Muzik/Trunk Muzik 0-60 (750 points, 22 votes, 2 first place votes)
11. SWANS — My Father Will Guide Me Up a Rope to the Sky (750 points, 25 votes)
10. ERYKAH BADU — New Amerykah Part Two: Return of the Ankh (780 points, 27 votes)
9. ROBYN — Body Talk (864 points, 25 votes, 3 first place votes)
8. SLEIGH BELLS — Treats (870 points, 31 votes, 1 first place vote)
7. KANYE WEST — My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (928 points, 29 votes, 2 first place votes)
6. ARIEL PINK'S HAUNTED GRAFFITI — Before Today (938 points, 30 votes, 2 first place votes)
5. VAMPIRE WEEKEND — Contra (940 points, 28 votes, 1 first place vote)
4. JANELLE MONÁE — The ArchAndroid (1,126 points, 35 votes, 3 first place votes)
3. THE-DREAM — Love King (1,148 points, 35 votes, 3 first place votes)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

*jazz hands*

the worst dong of the last ten years (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv09Wi-4_I/AAAAAAAAAVQ/VcLpnBiVQ3o/lindstrom.jpg  http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TTv5kxAm_fI/AAAAAAAAAXc/alpNBJuuENQ/bigboi.jpg

2. LINDSTRØM & CHRISTABELLE — Real Life Is No Cool (1,244 points, 41 votes, 2 first place votes)
P&J: 84th
Pitchfork: DNP

1. BIG BOI — Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty (1,252 points, 40 votes, 2 first place votes)
P&J: 6th
Pitchfork: 4th
Spotify: listen

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:10 (fourteen years ago)

sorry bout that JF it took me 10 mins. to do that...

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:10 (fourteen years ago)

8 points in it!!

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:10 (fourteen years ago)

WOW that was close!

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:10 (fourteen years ago)

deej is going to just love that

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:10 (fourteen years ago)

whoa 8 points!!!

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:10 (fourteen years ago)

8 points separated them.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:10 (fourteen years ago)

Still too many joke posts

Danzig, with tears in my eyes (DavidM), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:10 (fourteen years ago)

http://cdn.fd.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/clay-davis_campaign-poster.jpg

omar little, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:10 (fourteen years ago)

OMG, how close is that??

skip, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PXBq4dpm4Ps/TLWHdhU3mTI/AAAAAAAABBc/R0f1ia9qv7A/s400/demdike-stare-forest-of-evil.jpg

THE DREAM IS DEAD

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

the joke post is VW placing at #5

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

Can't argue with Big Boi as a winner though, that album's just a blast.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

hooray sade got pwned

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

Just think - if I was a corny electro fuxxor we'd have had a different winner

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

if my math is correct, i believe the top 2 finishers were separated by a total of eight points?

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

sade r.i.p., fabulous album, wtf people

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

L+C actually overtook Big Boi on the last day of voting...until the final ballot had Big Boi as #1.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

and only 2 number one votes each - compare that to last year where fever ray had 5 and the-dream had 10!

prolego, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

Big Boi is a good winner tho

lol seandalai

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:12 (fourteen years ago)

fuck yeah, threw points at each of the top 3, glad to be of service. great/interesting results this year on both polls.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:12 (fourteen years ago)

so who are lindstrom and christabelle?

hercudeez and nuts affair (some dude), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:12 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, sad about sade, was so sure that would place ;_;

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:12 (fourteen years ago)

So if one person who voted for L&C had put them one position further up in their ballot they'd have won?

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:12 (fourteen years ago)

*subtracts 1244 from 1252...*

wow EIGHT points!

omar little, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:12 (fourteen years ago)

hang on i don't have that many fingers

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:13 (fourteen years ago)

Real Life Is No Cool was my #3 (though I can't remember why I put it above Erykah), but even so it seems strange to have it as 2nd best album of the year.

For deep cuts seek High and Low - unfuckwithable.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:13 (fourteen years ago)

really surprised the lindstrom album was that high up (altho i voted for it) (i think)

just sayin, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:13 (fourteen years ago)

and only 2 number one votes each - compare that to last year where fever ray had 5 and the-dream had 10!

yeah this is kinda telling!

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:13 (fourteen years ago)

And it's done. Well done, everyone. We made it out alive.

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:14 (fourteen years ago)

For deep cuts seek High and Low - unfuckwithable.

^^^^^

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:14 (fourteen years ago)

72 voters' first place vote made the 77

Jeff W, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:14 (fourteen years ago)

ILM hivemind gotta ask itself some searching questions imo

oh and thanks, JF, seandalai etc :D

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:14 (fourteen years ago)

well now i'm wondering where mine placed...

omar little, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

Odd year. Although it makes it clearer why Kanye had such an easy time convincing people to put him at #1 elsewhere.

abcfsk, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

Thank Johnny, seandalai, and company. Well done, lots of fun ("indie" indie excepted), do it again next year.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

also, thanks JF (and accomplices). Well up to musically's high standards. :)

Jeff W, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

ILM hivemind gotta ask itself some searching questions imo

lol like what??

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

yeah thx JF, j0rdan, and seandalai. Much appreciated.

waka flocka flamini (pandemic), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

Now is the time for... STATS STATS STATS.

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

thanks everyone who ran this thing, fantastic job

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

It's not very hivey this year.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:16 (fourteen years ago)

Thanks Cru for doing this, much appreciated!

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:16 (fourteen years ago)

And yes, thanks to the guys who did all the hard work - it's been fun.

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:16 (fourteen years ago)

Full results up in a minute! (preview: Demdike Stare missed the countdown by 8 points)

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:16 (fourteen years ago)

btw am listening to The-Dream and yeah it's OK but idrgi, seems really synthetic and superficial and forgettable, Yamaha was a jam

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:16 (fourteen years ago)

yeah big thanks to j0hnny and jordan and seandalai!!

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:16 (fourteen years ago)

8 points?

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:16 (fourteen years ago)

I have no idea where the hive even is. Only 3 of the 20 I voted for made it.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:16 (fourteen years ago)

72 voters' first place vote made the 77

― Jeff W, Thursday, February 3, 2011 2:14 PM (51 seconds ago) Bookmark

cool i'm one of those 5!

hercudeez and nuts affair (some dude), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:17 (fourteen years ago)

(preview: Demdike Stare missed the countdown by 8 points)

LOVELY. woulda been voted for my yrs truly if i'd thought it had any chance at placing! that's the last year i cast a populist ballot and avoid ranking things i think have no shot @ placing ;_;

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:17 (fourteen years ago)

thanks guys, great poll. my ballot would've put L&C on top :p

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:17 (fourteen years ago)

i can't believe anyone still thought sade might place, btw

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

voted for 25, 5 made it in. i have voter's remorse on one of the ones that placed and a couple that didn't but oh well.

omar little, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

hat's the last year i cast a populist ballot and avoid ranking things i think have no shot @ placing ;_;

― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:17 (18 seconds ago)

here is your answer CAD

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

yeah totally great job guys!

this list kicked every other EoY list's ass this year! Well done, all!

actually ship I believe it's more like 49

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

so who are lindstrom and christabelle?

Al, I'd direct you first to the Q. Jones/M. Jackson homage Baby Can't Stop (which appeared on the 2009 tracks poll, IIRC).

Tyler/Perry's "Dude (Looks Like a Lady)" (jaymc), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

this list kicked every other EoY list's ass this year!

for sure

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:19 (fourteen years ago)

damn i don't think i voted for l&c tho i considered it. could've bumped them to #1.

could some kind poll-runner send me my ballot when you get a min?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:19 (fourteen years ago)

F.I.L.A. is much better than the first two The-Dream songs. The slower, grander style suits him.

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:19 (fourteen years ago)

I'm going to have to go back to Real Life Is No Cool I haven't played it since it came out. Big Boi is Definitely a worthy winner.

Thanks to all who put this list together it's been fun.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:20 (fourteen years ago)

voted for 25, 5 made it in. i have voter's remorse on one of the ones that placed...

Yep, same number of mine made it, and I do have a twinge of regret at not hearing some stuff that could've tweaked my ballot to be a little more Kanye-free (I do like that album, though! I find it quite fascinating).

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:20 (fourteen years ago)

Out of these albums, I have only heard 9 of them front to back.

o_O

w/no hesitation (mh), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:20 (fourteen years ago)

Yesterday (21-40) was fairly hivey.

great disorder under heaven: the situation is excellent (Sanpaku), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

heh thanks jaymc but i was just making a joke about how artists that can place so high have basically been disembodied names i keep seeing on New Answers to me for years. it's european dance stuff i guess? i tend not to make it a priority to hear that kind of thing.

hercudeez and nuts affair (some dude), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

Yesterday (21-40) was fairly hivey.

― great disorder under heaven: the situation is excellent (Sanpaku), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:21 (19 seconds ago)

haha but I really, really liked it too :D

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:22 (fourteen years ago)

heh thanks jaymc but i was just making a joke about how artists that can place so high have basically been disembodied names i keep seeing on New Answers to me for years. it's european dance stuff i guess? i tend not to make it a priority to hear that kind of thing.

Yeah Lindstrom is "cosmic disco" really although this time he's got an actual disco diva in to sing over it all (ie probably one of his friends).

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

ILM 2010 Albums Poll Ballot+Stats Fiesta

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:24 (fourteen years ago)

Thanks so much JF!!

skip, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:32 (fourteen years ago)

Just realised that High On Fire & Alcest are going to miss out. I thought they were the ILM metal bands for people who don't usually do metal. Wonder if one of those were the metal band @ #100 that johnny mentioned in the other thread?

As it turns out, it was indeed Alcest (who got more than enough votes to make the top 77 but not enough points per vote)...There's quite a lot of metal just outside the countdown, you just needed a couple more people willing to vote for Kylesa or Nachtmystium.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:32 (fourteen years ago)

would've voted for "liberation thru hearing" if it were nommed /:

talk talk talk (diamonddave85), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:33 (fourteen years ago)

There's quite a lot of metal just outside the countdown, you just needed a couple more people willing to vote for Kylesa or Nachtmystium.

HI DERE

(i'd have voted kylesa, high on fire, alcest, nachtmystium, shining, etc. etc. had i chosen to put metal on my ballot)

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:34 (fourteen years ago)

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/5b/3c/177681b0c8a0e8b4c31ea110.L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:36 (fourteen years ago)

checked out emeralds for the first time and its lovely - thanks ppl

tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:36 (fourteen years ago)

voted for several metal albums, but only a couple of them placed ;_;

still, glad to see agalloch and harvey milk, that's something. see it's the "indie" indie indie fans that i really feel sorry for...

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:42 (fourteen years ago)

you mean, "schmindie"? :D

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

Who was the other Yelawolf #1?

The Reverend, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:47 (fourteen years ago)

Btw "Sex Intelligent"+remix are the best songs on Love King anyone who feels differently can jump off a fucking cliff. :P

The Reverend, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:47 (fourteen years ago)

^^ yeah wtf are u ppl on about

tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

'panties to the side' is the only thing ruining the flow of the album imo

tbch, i only see piranhas (tpp), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

^^^ {music swells} BAAAAAAABY GIRL!

See Gucci that's my Gucci that's my Gucci (Whitey on the Moon), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:49 (fourteen years ago)

still not as good as Yamaha tho.

See Gucci that's my Gucci that's my Gucci (Whitey on the Moon), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:49 (fourteen years ago)

imo Love King is kind of a mess as far as song-to-song consistency, especially compared to his other albums -- i only rate it to the extent that there's a decent number of songs on the album (bonus tracks) included that i can enjoy outside the slog of the album.

hercudeez and nuts affair (some dude), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:50 (fourteen years ago)

The-Dream album is drab and boring for two tracks and really good for the rest! WTF!

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:50 (fourteen years ago)

lj have you heard 'abyss' from that

one of the most sonically gorgeous tracks i heard all year

ciderpress, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:51 (fourteen years ago)

(preview: Demdike Stare missed the countdown by 8 points)

LOVELY. woulda been voted for my yrs truly if i'd thought it had any chance at placing! that's the last year i cast a populist ballot and avoid ranking things i think have no shot @ placing ;_;

― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), donderdag 3 februari 2011 20:17

second time I have to say "why u braek heart Ilxor" on this thread ;_;

LBI clearly believes the cat is gone (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:51 (fourteen years ago)

Triptych is a shoe-in for No. 1 next year.

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

I had L&C in fourth place so couldn't have artificially propelled them to no.1 even if I'd had some sort of psychic knowledge of the points totals - a lucky escape for democracy

good work all involved!

Rogaine's a hell of a rug (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

hey and speaking of indie...

Indie used to mean "independent" as in independent label, and was quickly adopted by critics and fans to mean a certain brand of alternative rock that didn't fit into punk or post-punk or MOR. But this was back in the stone-age and things have moved on and stuff that uses all those indie tropes is now released on huge labels while plenty of commercial pop comes out on so-called independents. There's no rule, and there shouldn't be a rule because music doesn't conform to the same parameters as it did in 1986. As far as I see it, "indie" has now become lazy, derogatory shorthand for "music made by white people".

― Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Thursday, February 3, 2011 7:14 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

like metal and hip hop, indie is a culture. maybe that's another way to spin your closing statement.

imo, indie is best described in terms of its audience. the genre evolves to reflect the shifting interests of the indie audience. this is why emeralds and sun araw seem at least as "indie" to me as they do psyche. they put out records on labels that indie people follow, they get tipped in indie blogs, and they draw an audience that's strongly interested in other sorts of indie-identified music.

i think for example of phantom tollbooth, an instrumental prog band from the late 80s. they were at the time considered an indie band while univers zero were not. why not? well, phantom tollbooth put out records on homestad, not just an independent label, but perhaps the defining american "indie" label of the era. they attracted an audience that were at least as interested in other indie bands like sonic youth and live skull as they were in textbook prog. they were written up in indie-oriented publications and given featured placement in indie-oriented shops. i mean, they were prog, no argument there, but they were also indie. indie overlaps with everything, or at least has the potential to do so.

i'm satisfied with this anthropological definition of the genre, but i can see why others might not be.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:55 (fourteen years ago)

Now to spend the rest of the year investigating the vast majority of albums on this poll that I've never heard at all. Looking forward to next year when I will vote for their follow-up (lesser) albums.

Moodles, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:55 (fourteen years ago)

Kind of surprised about the low placings for Mount Kimbie and Gonjasufi. Wasn't into them all that much myself, but thought they had more of a following here?

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:56 (fourteen years ago)

Consensus was that the Mount Kimbie wasn't that great, I think (I considered voting for it but didn't). Not sure about Gonjasufi.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:58 (fourteen years ago)

lj have you heard 'abyss' from that

one of the most sonically gorgeous tracks i heard all year

― ciderpress, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:51 (7 minutes ago)

yes and quite possibly :)

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:59 (fourteen years ago)

I really want to check that Gonjasufi album out a lot! How did it do? (I'm gonna go check anyways...)

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 20:00 (fourteen years ago)

Gonjasufi did terribly - only got about two votes. People I respect like it but I never got around to hearing it.

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 20:02 (fourteen years ago)

Oh no, it got four. Sorry.

emil.y, Thursday, 3 February 2011 20:02 (fourteen years ago)

Btw "Sex Intelligent"+remix are the best songs on Love King anyone who feels differently can jump off a fucking cliff. :P

'panties to the side' is the only thing ruining the flow of the album imo

still not as good as Yamaha tho.

have you heard 'abyss' from that ... one of the most sonically gorgeous tracks i heard all year

^^^

this is why i love the love king and why it deserves such high placement, imo. i fw all these tracks. it's got it's ups and downs, but there's nothing i'd straight up cut from the album. though i voted for "yamaha" and do honestly love that song, i only did so because i knew it was the ILX pick. personally, i prefer "sex intelligent", "FILA", "abyss", "turnt out", and even (i admit it) "panties to the side".

¯\(°_°)/¯ i can't help the way god made me

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 February 2011 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

^^^ first four lines there = quotes from different ppl ITT. sorry not to make that more clear.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 February 2011 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

Ha. My #1, John Grant, got only one other vote and that was a #1 too. In quality vs quantity terms that's quite something.

I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 3 February 2011 20:05 (fourteen years ago)

Contenderizer, I'm pretty stoked that Phantom Tollbooth made the footnotes here :)

seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 3 February 2011 20:06 (fourteen years ago)

I think I'm gonna listen to Memoirs of an Imperfect Angeland use that as a way into Terius--listening to the 3 Dream albums after that & then the Electrik Red album...

don't know when I'm going to get around to doing that though, have a pretty full listening plate already...

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 20:18 (fourteen years ago)

That's by far the worst album he's produced.

The Reverend, Thursday, 3 February 2011 20:23 (fourteen years ago)

yeah but Obsessed was my one of my favorite songs of 2009...

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 February 2011 20:31 (fourteen years ago)

YELA! BIG BOI! :DDDDDDDDD

Have that Lindstrom record, will check eventually.

:DDDDDDDDDDDD you guys, ty for "burying" Kanye at 7.

APHG could be something I like but I can't past that UGLY fucking cover.

LJ- Listen to Baduizm and Mama's Gun. They are more trad* than the New Emrykah records but maybe even better.

*Trad in the same way that The-Dream is trad. Understanding the box to really be able to think outside it sorta thing.

if there is a King Kenny, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 3 February 2011 20:32 (fourteen years ago)

I couldn't get on board with Badu till Worldwide Underground - that was the path to New Amerykah Part 1 for me.

I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 3 February 2011 20:48 (fourteen years ago)

we had a powercut about 5 seconds after I last posted so missed the drama of the top 2 being unveiled.

thanks to all who ran the poll, good work.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah thanks to the poll organisers, good list on the whole, definitely need to listen to the Agalloch record (probably a few other thigs too). L&C was a real shock #2, quite liked it but haven't played it in a while so I'll remedy that then I guess.

Gavin in Leeds, Thursday, 3 February 2011 20:58 (fourteen years ago)

Really suprised the Twin Shadow album didnt place, I thought it was amazing and assumed it'd be total ILM bait.

Cyclone Yazoo (Trayce), Thursday, 3 February 2011 21:00 (fourteen years ago)

whoa! we had a power cut about 35 minutes ago here. coincidence? what up?

xp

Ioannis, Thursday, 3 February 2011 21:00 (fourteen years ago)

I dont think Greece provides our electricity but you never know ;)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 21:01 (fourteen years ago)

-_-

Ioannis, Thursday, 3 February 2011 21:02 (fourteen years ago)

Greece and Scotland are right next to each other, right? ;-)

The Reverend, Thursday, 3 February 2011 21:04 (fourteen years ago)

according to glenn beck

yeah guys involved with both polls deserve free beer

if there is a King Kenny, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 3 February 2011 21:07 (fourteen years ago)

may their broadband never fail.

Ioannis, Thursday, 3 February 2011 21:08 (fourteen years ago)

Glenn Beck grew up like half an hour from where I stay. :0

The Reverend, Thursday, 3 February 2011 21:10 (fourteen years ago)

he and i were born on the same year, i'm sorry to say. ;_;

Ioannis, Thursday, 3 February 2011 21:14 (fourteen years ago)

*in, even

Ioannis, Thursday, 3 February 2011 21:16 (fourteen years ago)

whoa! we had a power cut about 35 minutes ago here. coincidence? what up?

Where do you live?

I'm in Texas and we've been having rolling power outages here for the last 2 days due to the extreme cold overtaxing our power grid.

Moodles, Thursday, 3 February 2011 21:21 (fourteen years ago)

Greece and Scotland are right next to each other, right? ;-)

we share the same Patron Saint!!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 21:25 (fourteen years ago)

who knows... it has been particularly cold here tonight.

Ioannis, Thursday, 3 February 2011 21:31 (fourteen years ago)

Where do you live?

I'm in Texas and we've been having rolling power outages here for the last 2 days due to the extreme cold overtaxing our power grid.

Texas, Scotland, Athens... all the same tonight/today apparently.

Ioannis, Thursday, 3 February 2011 21:34 (fourteen years ago)

gale force winds and pissing down here

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 21:35 (fourteen years ago)

Extraterrestrial invasion???

Ioannis, Thursday, 3 February 2011 21:36 (fourteen years ago)

am I the only person on this board who things The-Dream is ridiculous? I like a few of his songs okay, but it's kind of a kitsch thing for me.

rockapads, Thursday, 3 February 2011 21:36 (fourteen years ago)

*thinks

rockapads, Thursday, 3 February 2011 21:36 (fourteen years ago)

My fave releases of 2010 that basically no one else on ILM gave a shit about or mentioned, fwiw:

Home Video - the Automatic Process
Veil Veil Vanish - Change in the Neon Light
Engineers - In Praise of More
the Prids - Chronosynclastic

Cyclone Yazoo (Trayce), Thursday, 3 February 2011 21:37 (fourteen years ago)

My fave releases of 2010 that basically no one else on ILM gave a shit about or mentioned, fwiw:

Home Video - the Automatic Process

i voted for this and it only got one vote, so vote next time

a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:03 (fourteen years ago)

am I the only person on this board who things The-Dream is ridiculous? I like a few of his songs okay, but it's kind of a kitsch thing for me.

― rockapads, Thursday, February 3, 2011 4:36 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

he's basically the lolcat of R&B, yeah

hercudeez and nuts affair (some dude), Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:05 (fourteen years ago)

I dont look at ILM very much, I missed this poll completely (and tbh dont often vote in polls), but yay at least it was repped! My fave album of last year. Technically it barely scraped in, its rest of world release is officially this month.

Cyclone Yazoo (Trayce), Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:06 (fourteen years ago)

xp

Cyclone Yazoo (Trayce), Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:06 (fourteen years ago)

thanks to the poll organisers, this was fun to watch. lots for me to listen to now.

loved that yelawolf lambo song.

i fellate myself and want to fly (whatever), Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:06 (fourteen years ago)

Who was the other Yelawolf #1?

Me.

My top ten was very hivemindful this year - Yelawolf, Diddy, VW, Taylor, The-Dream, Glasser, L&C, E-40 - only things that didn't place were Hot Toddy and Jacka & Laroo.

Tim F, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:07 (fourteen years ago)

My whole top ten placed. :o

The Reverend, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:14 (fourteen years ago)

The two albums this poll got me into so far, are Yelawolf and We Love. Thanks, ILM!

rockapads, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:24 (fourteen years ago)

he's basically the lolcat of R&B, yeah

putting it that way makes me like him more

rockapads, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:25 (fourteen years ago)

I'm in Texas and we've been having rolling power outages here for the last 2 days due to the extreme cold overtaxing our power grid.

plz note: "extreme cold" in texas is still just like 15-25 degrees F, pretty much a normal day in other parts of north america

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:34 (fourteen years ago)

yes, extreme for us. We don't really have the infrastructure here to support weather this cold.

Moodles, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:36 (fourteen years ago)

lol "cold" we dont even get 25c in fucking summer very often

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:36 (fourteen years ago)

we're talking fahrenheit here...

I've lived in Texas for 11 years and AFAIK this is the first time it's dipped into the teens since I moved here.

Moodles, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:40 (fourteen years ago)

I must remember to vote next year...mind you I'da probably made the Gareth Liddiard record no. 1 or close to it, and I doubt that would've gotten any outside attention.

Simon H., Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:43 (fourteen years ago)

I'm disappointed that ilxor chose to vote for stuff he thought would place rather than vote for his fave 25 albums. In all lists people should not vote for what they think will place otherwise all lists will look the same!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:50 (fourteen years ago)

i agree. i seem to remember arguing with ilxor about it last year tho.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:52 (fourteen years ago)

I'd hope that those voting in the P&J, vote from the heart and not for what they think they should, but the results lately have just looked the same. The ILM polls do seem to stand out but if everyone on ILM voted for their fave albums even if they think it's stuff that has no chance of playing (im looking at the niche music fans here like metal,jazz and whatever), we could get some even more interesting results.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:56 (fourteen years ago)

*placing not playing

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:56 (fourteen years ago)

and if deej and all the others just remembered to vote then that would change things too.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:57 (fourteen years ago)

yeah that whole mindset is so weird to me - which you can prob tell from my ballot xpost re voting for expected winners

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:01 (fourteen years ago)

which uh is prob obvious from my ballot so

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:01 (fourteen years ago)

eh if u like some stuff that's got a shot, and don't like a lot of stuff that it's gonna be up against, i can see why u would vote strategically, esp. when it's hard i think to rank albums against each other even within a genre

zvookster, Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:23 (fourteen years ago)

i mean i was top 10 outside the hivemind so it doesn't really apply to me but if it did

zvookster, Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:25 (fourteen years ago)

ilxor prob has a ton of stuff he's trying to cram into a ballot and prob rank against each other too, if ur thinking abt what could make it it at least focuses the mind, i imagine

zvookster, Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:26 (fourteen years ago)

I think tactical voting comes into it more for me in the tracks poll, like if there are four or five funky tracks I love equally I'm going to vote for the one that I think Tim or Lex or RTC might go for in the hope that it'll place, but my top five or so would still be my five favourite records of the year.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:28 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah I made a couple of tactical choices over on trax - voting for my #2 or #3 favourite song by an artist because I thought it would have a better chance - but my albums ballot was from the heart.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:33 (fourteen years ago)

I do wonder if people do leave certain things off their ballots because of the ILM backlash against certain albums. I know it happened with anco last year as a few people posted that they indeed left it off for that reason.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:44 (fourteen years ago)

It's less fear of backlash and more "everyone else will vote for Animal Collective so it's not worth me doing so".

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 February 2011 23:59 (fourteen years ago)

fear is the hivemind killer

zvookster, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:07 (fourteen years ago)

i left kanye off not due to ILM backlash but in personal protest against what i see as absurd (ridiculous) overrating elsewhere. and i did include stuff like sleigh bells and MIA, so i'm not too worried about backing divisive candidates.

i do think there's value in voting at least somewhat tactically, though. the vast majority of my favorite records had zero chance of placing here. they may have a few other ILM supporters, but not enough even to cast a shadow on the lower reaches of the top 100. and the more obscure our choices, the less likely they are to overlap with anyone else's obscure choices.

for this reason, "throwing away votes" on records that don't stand a snowball's chance does little but strengthen the consensus around the widely acclaimed top finishers. tactically looking to help boost the fortunes of good, at least moderately ILM-popular albums & trax that aren't safe bets for the top ten slots seems like the best way to go. not to say i didn't include a few throwaway <3<3<3 picks. i did, but i didn't devote too much of my ballot to them.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Friday, 4 February 2011 00:09 (fourteen years ago)

So, what's everyone's opinion of the revealing of 77 instead of just 50 (or instead of an overwhelming 100)? Seems to strike the right balance imo, and if I/we are charged with doing it again next year, it will probably continue the trend.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:12 (fourteen years ago)

(Off topic, but you were discussing it: I've had two and a half days off due to snow and cold weather in New Mexico.)

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:12 (fourteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure i remember a couple of posters saying they didn't vote for them because of the reactions of some people on ilm. but its not like it matters really, its just i find it strange that anyone would leave an album they liked out of their ballot just because of the reaction a high placing will get/or backlash against album. Goes for any style not just Animal Collective. If any of the bands whose 2009/2010 albums were placing high in the ilm polls, would their next albums have a backlash against them in our poll if they topped pitchfork,P&J, NME etc EOY polls like the Kanye has? It is a lot lower in this poll than in most others. Did it suffer that kind of backlash?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:12 (fourteen years ago)

i'd like to see no nominations process for this poll from now on. i know that process has advantages for some people (memory jogging i guess...but you shouldn't have to work that hard to remember music you genuinely liked) but ditching it could speed things up and maybe make things (all the) more unpredictable.

idgi fridays (blueski), Friday, 4 February 2011 00:12 (fourteen years ago)

77 was better than 50, way better. But if the results allow it next year i dont see why you couldn't expand it (ie lots of votes no ties etc). But it all depends on how many ballots you get.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:13 (fourteen years ago)

77 is a perfect number--manageable amount and ilx symbology

call all destroyer, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:14 (fourteen years ago)

So, what's everyone's opinion of the revealing of 77 instead of just 50 (or instead of an overwhelming 100)? Seems to strike the right balance imo, and if I/we are charged with doing it again next year, it will probably continue the trend.

prefer 50 max personally but i guess more and more people voting justifies a longer 'official' list

idgi fridays (blueski), Friday, 4 February 2011 00:14 (fourteen years ago)

If everyone would agree to vote using the same format (artist - album/track), at least to where it's reasonably fixable if there are variations, it could be done. xps

Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:14 (fourteen years ago)

I think 77 has proved to be a great number - I also like the ilx-only in-joke aspect of it.

I was going to suggest returning to only 20 places per ballot next time, but in the end it wasn't too bad.

emil.y, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:15 (fourteen years ago)

I saw allow us a bigger ballot of say 30

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:16 (fourteen years ago)

Noooooooooo

emil.y, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:16 (fourteen years ago)

Noooooooo definitely not.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:16 (fourteen years ago)

why not? saves us having to cut of stuff we really like. Those who only want to vote for 5 albums can still do that if they want

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:17 (fourteen years ago)

you can make a list as long as you want and only submit the first 25 to the poll

call all destroyer, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:19 (fourteen years ago)

77 is a great way to go. a bit unwieldy but not wildly excessive and nicely symbolic. disagree with blueski's suggestion that we eliminate the nominations round, though. people just need to work a bit harder to get their favorites in. i mean, we were allowed almost as many nominations as we were votes, so nothing that really mattered to anyone should have been left out.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Friday, 4 February 2011 00:19 (fourteen years ago)

i like the 77 - commensurate with increased number of voters, both 51-77 sections proved v valuable, ultimately up to how much work the people running the polls want to do.

also liked the ballots of 25, especially for the trax. could live with albums ballot going back to 20 and the trax being increased to 30.

nominations are a crucial part of the process imo.

a certain amount of "tactical" voting is fine, i think the objection was to gearing one's whole ballot around what was/wasn't likely to place - as the results have shown us that's kind of impossible to predict anyway.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 4 February 2011 00:19 (fourteen years ago)

allowing 20 or 25 votes seems fine. can't see how 30 would be all that much worse, but certainly no more than that.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Friday, 4 February 2011 00:21 (fourteen years ago)

still quite like the idea of only one nomination per ilxor and then ppl just rank the resulting list (or just what they've heard and like from it), as an alternative approach

idgi fridays (blueski), Friday, 4 February 2011 00:21 (fourteen years ago)

Totally agree with you on both 77 and keeping the nominations round, lex, but:

could live with albums ballot going back to 20 and the trax being increased to 30.

I know you're only talking about what you'd prefer but you must have noticed that loads and loads of people have the exact opposite thing to you with regards to albums over tracks, right?

emil.y, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:22 (fourteen years ago)

I think the one nom per category method worked better when SO MANY people voted. Yes, we had increased participation this year, but nothing compared to the early days.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:23 (fourteen years ago)

could live with albums ballot going back to 20 and the trax being increased to 30.

yeah i like this

call all destroyer, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:23 (fourteen years ago)

still quite like the idea of only one nomination per ilxor and then ppl just rank the resulting list (or just what they've heard and like from it), as an alternative approach

god no

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:24 (fourteen years ago)

better with 20 tracks and 30 albums

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:24 (fourteen years ago)

yeah that's an awful idea xp

J0rdan S., Friday, 4 February 2011 00:24 (fourteen years ago)

I'm a fan of the nominations thread and don't really agree with the arguments for scrapping it...also it ensures that people regularise spellings/guest artists/etc., which is necessary in order to automate the vote counting.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Friday, 4 February 2011 00:25 (fourteen years ago)

i think i'm just gonna suggest the exact opposite of whatever algerian goalkeeper is posting right now

J0rdan S., Friday, 4 February 2011 00:25 (fourteen years ago)

guys the format is fine

J0rdan S., Friday, 4 February 2011 00:25 (fourteen years ago)

Tracks, by nature, is a better category for an expanded ballot just because of their brevity and easiness to experience as a whole in a short amount of time. If one ballot goes to 30 (which it probably won't), it would be tracks.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:26 (fourteen years ago)

I know you're only talking about what you'd prefer but you must have noticed that loads and loads of people have the exact opposite thing to you with regards to albums over tracks, right?

oh yeah i guess, tho even then there are just MORE trax. but yeah, doesn't really matter.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 4 February 2011 00:27 (fourteen years ago)

guys the format is fine

I agree. It finally feels right for the size of the board and variance of tastes.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:27 (fourteen years ago)

keep the trax/albums the same # otherwise you piss off half the voters either way.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:28 (fourteen years ago)

Half?

Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:28 (fourteen years ago)

Methinks you are projecting.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:28 (fourteen years ago)

I think the one nom per category method worked better when SO MANY people voted. Yes, we had increased participation this year, but nothing compared to the early days.

The first poll done in this style (the 00-04 poll) didn't get as many ballots as this one tho (altho not too far off iirc). When I (eventually) found the 2007 poll results thread earlier it was funny how often musically would post three results in a row with no raging arguments between them. I didn't expect interest/participation in the eoy polls to increase as it has done.

idgi fridays (blueski), Friday, 4 February 2011 00:29 (fourteen years ago)

It didn't? I thought the 00-04 poll had close to 200 voters.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:30 (fourteen years ago)

all I'm going to say on the nominations/voting process is the same thing I always say and always want to have considered: doing 25 album and/or single nominations is silly and unnecessary and I really think in the future everyone should get a set number of noms in each category.

hercudeez and nuts affair (some dude), Friday, 4 February 2011 00:31 (fourteen years ago)

(but looking back now, I see you're right) xp

Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:31 (fourteen years ago)

the most disappointing "xp" ever

hercudeez and nuts affair (some dude), Friday, 4 February 2011 00:32 (fourteen years ago)

main reason i like the one nom per person idea is that it potentially makes the nomination process as much fun as the results. in practice it probably wouldn't work as people would just hold back stuff hoping someone else does it for them. i just love a gamble.

idgi fridays (blueski), Friday, 4 February 2011 00:33 (fourteen years ago)

One innovation that proved popular in the 20th century poll was partially ranked ballots - you order the first couple of items on your ballot and they get as many points as they would on a weighted ballot, but your other votes get the remaining pool of points divided equally among them. We decided not to include partially ranked ballots this time round but if people are interested we can have them in the next poll.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Friday, 4 February 2011 00:35 (fourteen years ago)

one nomination per person just means so much stuff people love getting left out and all the ridiculous bartering and begging that already goes on in the nominations threads would just intensify, feels like one of the stunts lj pulled when he ran that 90s poll.

hercudeez and nuts affair (some dude), Friday, 4 February 2011 00:42 (fourteen years ago)

i didn't really vote 'strategically' but i think there is a point at which you shouldn't feel ashamed of being a little shrewd. i made sure my whole top 10 was nominated on principle, even though i knew about half of them had no chance of placing (and i was the sole vote for 3 of them), but i didn't sweat making sure my super-obscure 11th favorite album of the year was voted for.

hercudeez and nuts affair (some dude), Friday, 4 February 2011 00:45 (fourteen years ago)

one-nom-per-person is a ridiculous thing to suggest. unless you actually just want a gimmick thread.

all of the ideas mooted so far make me want to just say "never mind it's ALL FINE AS IT IS"

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 4 February 2011 00:46 (fourteen years ago)

I just went down my real top 25 list and placed everything that was nominated in the order it appeared there, then I just filled out the rest of my ballot with spur of the moment decisions by looking at the master noms list. Whole process took about 30 minutes for both tracks and albums, and I think that if I'd spent days agonizing over my votes they wouldn't have been all that much different than they were.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:48 (fourteen years ago)

I'm strongly against restricting nominations - the only possible difference that would make is people not being able to vote for tracks/albums they want to. In theory I wouldn't be against unlimited nominations - if people want to nominate 100 unreleased Cassie tracks, let them go ahead and split the vote. But I think the most sensible policy is to have the allotted number of nominations be equal to the ballot size for both tracks and albums, so that everyone is able to ensure their 25 favourites are nominated.

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Friday, 4 February 2011 00:50 (fourteen years ago)

But I think the most sensible policy is to have the allotted number of nominations be equal to the ballot size for both tracks and albums, so that everyone is able to ensure their 25 favourites are nominated.

Sensible policy. I would vote for you as king of the internet.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 February 2011 00:52 (fourteen years ago)

not sure the results of a one-nom-per-person based list would necessarily be that different to what we have here as most of the same stuff would feature in the top section. but some people moan about the consensus so this approach could potentially be more individualised and comprised of stuff people really care about, which i might find more interesting and of value. it isn't just a gimmick, it has as much potential value as any other method (and the original method with its own nominations restrictions wasn't so different). obv it depends on what you want from a poll and what you prioritise about the process.

idgi fridays (blueski), Friday, 4 February 2011 00:59 (fourteen years ago)

I prioritize not being bitched at by 100 people during the nominations process.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 February 2011 01:00 (fourteen years ago)

lol

sleeve, Friday, 4 February 2011 01:03 (fourteen years ago)

was that because you kept reposting the nominations list as it grew and grew? crazy shit!

idgi fridays (blueski), Friday, 4 February 2011 01:04 (fourteen years ago)

I used a spreadsheet this time! (I did that in previous polls, though.)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 February 2011 01:07 (fourteen years ago)

Don't change anything.

The Reverend, Friday, 4 February 2011 01:15 (fourteen years ago)

One nom per person per category is by far the worst idea floated in this thread. All that leads to his huge oversights like the 2000-2004 poll not including Stankonia because no one nominated it.

The Reverend, Friday, 4 February 2011 01:17 (fourteen years ago)

not sure the results of a one-nom-per-person based list would necessarily be that different to what we have here as most of the same stuff would feature in the top section.

yeah this is crazy. if just the 100+ voters each nominated one album, the top 77 or whatever would look completely, enormously different.

hercudeez and nuts affair (some dude), Friday, 4 February 2011 01:20 (fourteen years ago)

JF I dont know how you do this and not want to go postal on everyone, all the time <3

Cyclone Yazoo (Trayce), Friday, 4 February 2011 01:21 (fourteen years ago)

the only suggestion i would make is maybe add some form of curvature to the distrubution of points, like maybe ^1.5 or something? that might be too high but something. seems like a logical way to adapt to the fact that so many more people vote now & consensus will be more&more decided by aggregate votes rather than enthusiasm. either that or shorten album ballot. everyone agrees it's lame that the #1 was only #1 on two ppls ballots & honestly the album's good it isnt that good

flopson, Friday, 4 February 2011 01:25 (fourteen years ago)

thx to j0rdan, johnny & sean for doing this -- had a midterm this afternoon shortly after results went up so i had to struggle to peel myself away from the computer. i appreciate that this is something we do & appreciate the continued effort since clearly it consists of more & more labour every year

flopson, Friday, 4 February 2011 01:28 (fourteen years ago)

like the curvature idea

hercudeez and nuts affair (some dude), Friday, 4 February 2011 01:35 (fourteen years ago)

All that leads to his huge oversights like the 2000-2004 poll not including Stankonia because no one nominated it

that's not ALL it leads to but yeah it's a poll of albums that at least one person would definitely put as their #1 and it would be interesting to see what WOULD get left out. as someone who obv isn't entirely satisifed with the current method i'm not saying this alternative would reflect more accurately or appropriately the tastes of ILM but it wouldn't necessarily reflect them any less either (i do like that it forces people into making a distinct choice). tbh people put thought into the current method (in their nominating, voting, discussing and general interest in every aspect of the process) that i can't always relate to even as a list addict (and someone who is probably still as interested as anyone in the actual results).

if just the 100+ voters each nominated one album, the top 77 or whatever would look completely, enormously different.

i think that depends entirely on whether people saw it as an opportunity to nominate something they know wouldn't normally stand a chance of making a top 50/77 (not that people would necessarily have to rank it) or whether they nominate something out of that kinda paranoid 'what if it got left out' factor, which i'm cool with.

not really saying 'it should definitely be done this much better way' just wanted to explore it more (and subject it to criticism natch).

idgi fridays (blueski), Friday, 4 February 2011 01:52 (fourteen years ago)

i'm not saying this alternative would reflect more accurately or appropriately the tastes of ILM but it wouldn't necessarily reflect them any less either

You see, I think it would. I nominated and voted for at least four albums that didn't get any other votes, and while of course they didn't show up on the main poll list it makes for more interesting post-results banter and deconstruction to have such things on a larger list.

emil.y, Friday, 4 February 2011 02:01 (fourteen years ago)

if people are posting their ballots anyway idk why you need to see albums that only got one vote on a list but agree to disagree!

idgi fridays (blueski), Friday, 4 February 2011 02:04 (fourteen years ago)

Well, I thought you meant that people would still only get to vote for stuff on the nominations list. So at maximum only one of those albums would be on my ballot under this system. Or am I misunderstanding you?

emil.y, Friday, 4 February 2011 02:06 (fourteen years ago)

no that's right, i guess i just feel it doesn't matter if the other stuff you wished had been nominated was on a list or not. there'd inevitably be some megathread were everyone lists the glaring omissions, so you'd still get that banter one way or another.

idgi fridays (blueski), Friday, 4 February 2011 02:10 (fourteen years ago)

agree with emil.y here. one nom per person would radically alter the outcome, and plenty of important stuff would be left off for one reason or another. it's a stunt, as was suggested upthread. not a way to rationally determine what ILX collectively thinks of a year's releases, but a way to create an "interesting" process/result. completely open-ended nominations would get messy quickly, and some would abuse the privilege. like the system as it is.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Friday, 4 February 2011 02:29 (fourteen years ago)

I'm disappointed that ilxor chose to vote for stuff he thought would place rather than vote for his fave 25 albums. In all lists people should not vote for what they think will place otherwise all lists will look the same!

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, February 3, 2011 4:50 PM (3 hours ago)

i agree. i seem to remember arguing with ilxor about it last year tho.

― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, February 3, 2011 4:52 PM (3 hours ago)

yeah i totally regret doing this now. super lame. i'll be different next year!

ilxor prob has a ton of stuff he's trying to cram into a ballot and prob rank against each other too, if ur thinking abt what could make it it at least focuses the mind, i imagine

― zvookster, Thursday, February 3, 2011 5:26 PM (3 hours ago)

yeah this is a big part of it. like, would i rather bump something in the top 25 up a spot or two? or would i rather something obscure be #234 instead of 243 or whatever? thinking about the results rolling out, i'd rather make an impact! trouble is, though, it makes my ballot look super hivemind-y when i post it :(

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 4 February 2011 02:46 (fourteen years ago)

anyway, as to alterations-- i'd propose a P&J style ballot.

- keep albums/tracks ballots at 25 each
- you get 250 points
- unweighted/unspecified ballot = 10 points per vote
- or, you can give yr votes any # of points you wish, within limits:
- max. 30 pts per vote
- min. 5 pts per vote

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 4 February 2011 02:48 (fourteen years ago)

i don't really like the distribute yr points as you please thing -- everyone has a #1 and a #2 and so on, why should be people get to (or have to) decide they REALLY REALLY like their #1 way more than their #2 or whatever?

hercudeez and nuts affair (some dude), Friday, 4 February 2011 02:56 (fourteen years ago)

I hate the P&J style.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 February 2011 02:58 (fourteen years ago)

I'm in favor of whatever will make things the most difficult for the people running the poll.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 4 February 2011 03:00 (fourteen years ago)

lol

originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Friday, 4 February 2011 03:02 (fourteen years ago)

the only suggestion so far that isn't a piece of shit is shipley's -- maybe next year you'd get strictly 15 albums AND 15 singles noms, but idk i don't mind giving ppl the option

J0rdan S., Friday, 4 February 2011 03:07 (fourteen years ago)

haaa rudi

The Reverend, Friday, 4 February 2011 03:07 (fourteen years ago)

there's nothing wrong with the poll as it's done now.

skip, Friday, 4 February 2011 03:15 (fourteen years ago)

^^^

The Reverend, Friday, 4 February 2011 03:22 (fourteen years ago)

That's what I really think as well.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 4 February 2011 03:23 (fourteen years ago)

OTM, poll is fine the way it is, 77 is a perfect number as well.

Matt DC, Friday, 4 February 2011 09:44 (fourteen years ago)

it went really well this year so it doesnt really need changed. and blueski could do a second poll with his idea to see how it goes and that way there's two polls and we can enjoy the fun again?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 February 2011 09:50 (fourteen years ago)

I like having lots of noms - lots of mine were things from other people EOYs that looked interesting which I wanted the option to vote for if I got into them (half of them turned out to be a bit shit btw).

AG - stop right there!

seminal fuiud (NickB), Friday, 4 February 2011 09:52 (fourteen years ago)

indeed blueski could do a poll, right now, of all the albums that got a #1 vote this year.

also thought the poll went really well this year so no changes necessary.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 4 February 2011 09:53 (fourteen years ago)

Enough fucking polls guys.

Matt DC, Friday, 4 February 2011 09:56 (fourteen years ago)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

just sayin, Friday, 4 February 2011 09:58 (fourteen years ago)

iawtc ^

Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 February 2011 10:04 (fourteen years ago)

Demdike Stare was in my last 30 and I cut it, if I'd known it'd miss out by 8 points while many of my other votes missed the 77 by some way maybe I'd have bumped it. Ho hum. But in general personally I don't see any point trying to second-guess what will and what won't make it, cz there are things in the top 20 which I'd decided were goners once we reached #40 and things at like #110 which I thought would make it.

My fave album of last year. Technically it barely scraped in, its rest of world release is officially this month.

Well this will make it eligible next year, so you've got 11 months to hype it up here on ILM!
(I shd check it, liked other things by Home Video but haven't heard that one.)

cellular nekomata (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 4 February 2011 10:29 (fourteen years ago)

I think the poll worked fine as run, but will offer this one other alternative: if you use Needle to tabulate it, as I do with the Pazz and Jop, you can do without nominations entirely, and just rely on Needle to facilitate the data cleanup. For 700 voters x 20 votes, this cleanup took me a few hours, much of which could be eliminated with a better input form that helped people not flip album/artist.

Polling without nominations would be different, obviously, and I'm not lobbying for or against it, just pointing out that it isn't necessary for rendering the process managable.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 4 February 2011 13:08 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, even w/o Needle I expect some basic string edit distance computations would handle a lot - but even then there are "cleaning" issues like whether a release is permissible (e.g. actually came out last year), whether two releases should be combined like we did with Yelawolf or whether two albums with very similar names are actually distinct. Having a public nominations thread means informed people can weigh in (I would have had no idea about Yelawolf).

Daithi Lacha Flame (seandalai), Friday, 4 February 2011 13:13 (fourteen years ago)

otm re: cleaning issues - many many people seem not to pay attention to the YEAR BEING POLLED at all.

also i think a nominations thread (plus gap between then and the voting) is more inclusive - allows people who may not have been paying attention during the year to have a bit of a catch-up.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 4 February 2011 13:16 (fourteen years ago)

only 1 more poll needs to be done between now and next jan tbh and that is the last decade (the oooooos).

if there is a King Kenny, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 February 2011 13:42 (fourteen years ago)

didn't we just do a 06-10 less than a year ago though? maybe get a bit of distance from that first

ciderpress, Friday, 4 February 2011 13:44 (fourteen years ago)

err '05-'09 i mean

ciderpress, Friday, 4 February 2011 13:45 (fourteen years ago)

I really really want to do an alternate '00-'04 poll, where none of the albums/songs that placed in the 2004 poll are eligible. I might start making moves to do that after there's some breathing room from this one.

hercudeez and nuts affair (some dude), Friday, 4 February 2011 13:51 (fourteen years ago)

I might poll the 50 best biscuits.

Matt DC, Friday, 4 February 2011 13:52 (fourteen years ago)

I mean re-running a list for a period ILM has already covered is a bit Q magazine.

Matt DC, Friday, 4 February 2011 13:54 (fourteen years ago)

bourbon ftw

if there is a King Kenny, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 4 February 2011 13:57 (fourteen years ago)

Only poll I'm really keen to see is a pre-1960 (1950?)tracks poll, though I suspect that may be a niche opinion.

More or less happy with the current voting set up, though would prefer a weighted/unweighted ballot as an option next year.

State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Friday, 4 February 2011 14:01 (fourteen years ago)

would love a jazz poll tbh. I doubt glenn would be interested in helping me with that tho. If he agrees to set needle up though I'd totally be up for it

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 February 2011 14:09 (fourteen years ago)

I really really want to do an alternate '00-'04 poll, where none of the albums/songs that placed in the 2004 poll are eligible.

i suggest looking at the albums/songs that placed in the 101-200 range --pretty good list of alternates to the top 100

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 4 February 2011 17:40 (fourteen years ago)

my 2012 resolution is to vote next year

الله basedأكبر (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 February 2011 18:16 (fourteen years ago)

I'd like to see that Electronic albums/tracks poll happen. Seemed to peter out back in Oct.

President Keyes, Friday, 4 February 2011 18:22 (fourteen years ago)

iirc that one broke down over infighting about what was and wasn't eligible genre-wise, i think the poll creator had a mnml/idm/ambient-type poll in mind and a bunch of people were nominating synthpop and new wave type ilm-love stuff and getting mad when they were shot down

ciderpress, Friday, 4 February 2011 18:26 (fourteen years ago)

i unveiled the results, you may have missed it because it was in this thread

YOU TOTALLY MISSED THE ILX HEAVY ROCK/METAL ALBUM POLL COUNTDOWN, SUCKA (CLICK FOR A RECAP)

omar little, Friday, 4 February 2011 18:32 (fourteen years ago)

haha

President Keyes, Friday, 4 February 2011 18:35 (fourteen years ago)

I really really want to do an alternate '00-'04 poll, where none of the albums/songs that placed in the 2004 poll are eligible.

i suggest looking at the albums/songs that placed in the 101-200 range --pretty good list of alternates to the top 100

― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, February 4, 2011 12:40 PM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah, lot of good stuff there but not remotely all of the good records that missed the top 100 that people would probably vote for now.

hercudeez and nuts affair (some dude), Friday, 4 February 2011 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

I've never understood the point of doing nominations in the first place. What's wrong with having everyone just send in a list with their top 25 albums and singles? With 15 noms/person x 100-odd people making nominations, most people's favourites end up on the nominations list anyway.

More importantly: it cuts down on the time needed to run the poll because you can cut out the ~ 3 wk nomination period and publish the poll results in January.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 4 February 2011 18:50 (fourteen years ago)

i thought the point was in large part to standardize the name, spelling, format of each nominated item.

call all destroyer, Friday, 4 February 2011 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

I guess nominations are good for ironing out the "which year did this come out" difficulties and they remind people of stuff, but otherwise, yeah.

President Keyes, Friday, 4 February 2011 18:53 (fourteen years ago)

If it's a 70's or 80's or "all-time genre" poll, I can understand wanting to remind people of stuff, but not for a year-end poll for a year that just ended. Standardizing the formats is obviously a huge help to the people running the poll and doing the coding, which I know nothing about so I won't comment on how big of a headache it might be to not have that in place.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 4 February 2011 19:03 (fourteen years ago)

w/r/t the delay - i think that's a positive. albums are still released well into december - some of them placed this year! which wouldn't nec be the case if the poll was done a few weeks earlier. and doing it in the dog days of january never exactly hurts enthusiasm.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 4 February 2011 19:06 (fourteen years ago)

nominations are useful for me for reminding me of albums I wanted to check out but ended up forgetting about, and also for albums I did listen to and love but might forget to put on my list

peter in montreal, Friday, 4 February 2011 19:13 (fourteen years ago)

^ yeah, this. nominations thread assists the process in a number of ways, not just in the standardization of ballots. i personally appreciate the memory-jogging and heads-upping, along with the extra time it provides for (re)evaluation before ballots are officially cast.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Friday, 4 February 2011 20:05 (fourteen years ago)

Veil Veil Vanish - Change in the Neon Light
Engineers - In Praise of More
the Prids - Chronosynclastic

i like these ones trayce! in fact the prids was in my top 5 on my ballot iirc

bouquet brigade (electricsound), Saturday, 5 February 2011 05:48 (fourteen years ago)

in the shoegazing poll, half of my ballot at least was made up of stuff I checked out from the nominations thread, stuff I never would've heard of w/o it (Skywave, Joy Formidables, you are the coolest)--of course this meant my ballot favored heavily on stuff that got nominated in the thread's first two days, but still, it was v useful...

also, some dude I like your idea of doing another '00-'04 poll but let's not do an alternate one, let's just an updated nu-ILX one. I don't want to deal with any constrictions on what you can &/or can't vote, esp. since we aren't doing a whole decade poll for the forseeable future...

ellj versus deej (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 5 February 2011 22:56 (fourteen years ago)

Having done an 00-04 poll and an 05-09 poll already, the next time we even touch the first decade of this century should either be an all-in thing or a genre poll of some kind. That said, I'm not advocating anyone start anything of the sort in the near future.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 5 February 2011 23:11 (fourteen years ago)


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