OJ Da Juiceman Freshman Freestyle POLL

freshman of the year like a basketball, player

this is also just "basketball player"

aw man, cuz, man, we in your face

^^voted for this tho

::trolls deej::

my favorite part of this whole thing is how they try & hide his identity as if everyone was gonna be scratching their heads & running to the comments section to try & find out which xxl freshman dropped this hot new freestyle

i would love to see the reaction of the person that was filming this

was he stunned? horrified? was he trying to hold back laughter? was he cursing his job? all of the above?

j0rdan how would you rate Tha Otha Side Of The Trap and how justified do you feel i am in never being able to let deej hear the end of him giving an OJ Da Juiceman album a 7 out of 10

this is also just "basketball player"

what he means and what he says is totally different

ha, probably in the 5-6 range -- i wrote a post about one of the first juiceman albums on the shrimp tho, so my hands aren't exactly clean

i still like juice a lot in the right circumstances tbh

v impt po77: just-okay sex v. the best oj da juiceman album

aye

god damn this is the funniest video ever

juice's verse on "walkin on ice" & the first verse of "make da trap say aye" are classics tho

man his ayes sound so much like chappelle's prince

& of course he gave us "stupid fruity crazy swag"

aw man, cuz, man

i stand by my 7.0 completely

not for this verse, per se

hes not a great rapper or something but thats a good album & im just gonna point out once again that if he wasnt used as a foil to defend gucci then ppl wouldnt hate on him nearly as much as they do. its not like there arent selected styles p verses that are as lazy as this

&, :trolls al: freeway has had as many boring verses in the past year

this is one of the best videos in the history of the internet

ha, probably in the 5-6 range -- i wrote a post about one of the first juiceman albums on the shrimp tho, so my hands aren't exactly clean

― lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, January 31, 2011 12:30 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

man i was disagreeing w/ you back then & now you've flipped & gone 180 in the other direction

dude, show me a single freeway verse as boring as "aw man, cuz, man, we in your face"

it's not really face though

it's fay

lol

1st youre conflating 'boring' w/ 'lazy' -- obv freeway works harder & is a much better rapper, but boring is boring -- 2nd, 1/3rd of the tracks on 'month of madness' are lyrical rehashes of themselves (an lp i also reviewed & gave a higher score to)

keep in mind too that i gave 'chemical warfare' by alchemist a 7.8 ... p much all my reviews fall in the 7.0-7.9 range & theres obv rap score deflation on a site that puts indie at the center, so im typically fighting for higher scores for stuff but i guarantee there are 30 worse indie records from the past year that got a higher score than oj

stay
fay
aye

it's technically sound.

deej i have no regrets over juiceman! i still check for his new shit

otha side of the trap is not a 5-6 record imo

i can't watch this without laughing

man looking at that review now, its even framed in a pretty cynical way about juiceman's career ... al is really reaching here, congrats on finding yet another artist you can dismiss immediately based on some gut-level issue w/ the sound of his voice (see: the max b thread among others) that basically makes discussion impossible tho

it is ok for a white guy to write "cuh" on the internet? i've seen a lot of brick squad discussion that involves "cuh"

???

yeah idk what you're talking about

it's only ok when transcribing OJ Da Juiceman

lol youtube - "Up next: 50 tyson"

its not like there arent selected styles p verses that are as lazy as this

― *kl0p* (deej), Monday, January 31, 2011 2:15 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

seriously, find the worst Styles verse of his whole career and put it up for comparison

50 tyson is based imo

???

― *kl0p* (deej), Monday, January 31, 2011 2:36 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah idk what you're talking about

― lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, January 31, 2011 2:37 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

like with Brick Squad shit, i noticed ppl are starting to transcribe "cuz" as "cuh."

::trolls deej::

― some dude, Monday, January 31, 2011 1:25 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

seriously, if i knew it was this easy to get him to bite, i would have stopped coming up with zings a long time ago

part of whiney's problem may be that he considers any & all discussion about an artist to be 'beef' & any time someone disagrees w/ him its a successful 'troll' on his part

or maybe its my problem for assuming that anything he says is honest or that he bothers listening to music rather than coming up w/ writing gimmicks

like, dude, are we disagreeing about whether a particular artist is worthwhile, or are u just playing constant games that no one is entertained by but yourself?

hes not a great rapper or something but thats a good album & im just gonna point out once again that if he wasnt used as a foil to defend gucci then ppl wouldnt hate on him nearly as much as they do. its not like there arent selected styles p verses that are as lazy as this

― *kl0p* (deej), Monday, January 31, 2011 2:15 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

taking side: people using OJ as a foil to defend Gucci vs. you overrating OJ's album because he was the one out of the crew that had a new album out you could review when you started your Gucci champion phase

so guys heard oj did a funny freestyle recently????

he was a relevant & very popular rapper its not like i was plucking him from obscurity.

sorry for quoting the same post twice instead of responding to it once btw

he was a relevant & very popular rapper its not like i was plucking him from obscurity.

― *kl0p* (deej), Monday, January 31, 2011 2:54 PM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that has nothing to do w/ what i said though?

lol @ my 'gucci champion phase,' is my mentioning that you showing enthusiasm for anything would be a refreshing change of pace quite as tired as u giving me shit for liking gucci mane ?

that has nothing to do w/ what i said though?

― some dude, Monday, January 31, 2011 1:55 PM (5 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it seemed to me you were questioning why i would review his album? i listened to it & gave it a score based on how good i thought it was? what does that have to do w/ gucci being in jail? he released a solid if unexceptional rap record, he was a buzzed artist & i reviewed it with a cynical eye

& i reviewed it with a cynical aye

i mean the entire introductory conceit of the review is that it was sorta obvi that as soon as gucci went to jail they started pushing OJ and yet i found the oj album to be of some quality. how am i 'overrating' his album because gucci went to jail?

i mean, other than you being a troll / mindreader, what are you basing that on?

& i reviewed it with a cynical aye

― Jacka Laroo and Tyler Too (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, January 31, 2011 1:57 PM (48 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

did lol @ this

i like a french montana mixtape from last year, is that because max b is in jail & i secretly wish he had one? no, its because i listened to it & liked it

yeah i'm not gonna tell you you don't like what you like, there's no point in that. it just felt very calculated from my POV to push him with a relatively high score for a hood type rap record on PF. anyway find some shitty Styles verses.

GO LISTEN TO GRAND BUFFET, PUSSY

AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE

no deej only has the attention span to bring up rappers i've mentioned liking in the past week for pointless comparisons, so Styles it is (xpost)

ebony eyez seemed a lil played

lol @ my 'gucci champion phase,' is my mentioning that you showing enthusiasm for anything would be a refreshing change of pace quite as tired as u giving me shit for liking gucci mane ?

― *kl0p* (deej), Monday, January 31, 2011 2:55 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

btw when have i actually given you shit for liking gucci mane. never said he wasn't good or his music wasn't worth listening to. the idea that making your whole world and online persona revolve around one artist in the name of 'enthusiasm' is just kinda bullshit to me, aggressive monomania is not a charming personality trait or a something that makes a critic credible or convincing in their opinions.

srsly, it was like trying to talk to a Tool fan around here for a while

lol

btw when have i actually given you shit for liking gucci mane. never said he wasn't good or his music wasn't worth listening to. the idea that making your whole world and online persona revolve around one artist in the name of 'enthusiasm' is just kinda bullshit to me, aggressive monomania is not a charming personality trait or a something that makes a critic credible or convincing in their opinions.

― some dude, Monday, January 31, 2011 2:23 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmar

how does this describe me at all? the two posts (that i wish some more ppl would respond to frankly) ive made in the last day are about the lost boyz & max b. ive posted about more bay area rap & a wider variety of rappers than ive seen you post about all year.

i wrote a lot about gucci mane & was one of the first ppl to do it but i never asked to be the 'gucci expert' or to be singularly associated with him.

srsly, it was like trying to talk to a Tool fan around here for a while

― Jacka Laroo and Tyler Too (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, January 31, 2011 2:23 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hey, whiney, maybe you should try paying attention to contemporary music & trying to say interesting things about it sometime

that doesnt mean twittering banalaties

i mean basically fuck you if you think my writing on gucci can be reduced to mindless cheerleading. you and al are basically being huge dicks right now

i thought it was already a foregone conclusion that Max B was gonna be the pet cause you post about daily for 6 months like nu-bay and Gucci before it.

i don't write about all rap I listen to, and I don't do all of that writing on ILM, never really thought being the best goon thread regular was something worth really grinding hard at.

wait so do i post about lots of artists or just my 'pet causes' --

that last post seems a lil contradictory

yeah you've got me. you win. later.

i don't write about all rap I listen to, and I don't do all of that writing on ILM, never really thought being the best goon thread regular was something worth really grinding hard at.

― some dude, Monday, January 31, 2011 2:29 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i can tell you right now, your role as goon thread daddy figure is 10x as annoying

hahah man that is funny thx for calling that to my attn whiney.

the "aye" at the end just slays me

deej telling me to say something interesting is like OJ Da Juiceman telling me to step my rap game up

what's the proper analogy here for this in crew fighting that i have to watch with dismay

hey Al i dunno what your problem with me is in this thread but why dont you come out & say it instead of passive aggressively attacking me for being enthusiastic about music & writing about it. my posting style has been fairly acerbic lately & i dont much like that but im still not half as bitter as you around here & i really dont understand why u think your posts itt are, like, helpful or funny or interesting or worthwhile

Seriously, dude, if you really care about how good your ILX posting is, get a fucking grip, dog.

I think Al's posts are helpful or funny or interesting or worthwhile

deej telling me to say something interesting is like OJ Da Juiceman telling me to step my rap game up

― Jacka Laroo and Tyler Too (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, January 31, 2011 2:35 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

sorry but LOL

god, your posting style is so good and worthwhile dude. you've really filled the void of OTM i needed in my life once nabisco got a real job. please continue to stick around ilx and drop truth bombs like Cos be droppin babies, you fucking posting genius.

i mean genius, like a savant. Not the "super dated" Genius of wu-tang fame

guys please, quiet, deej is going to say something, shhh

what the fuck are you even talking about

http://blog.wfmu.org/photos/uncategorized/2007/11/27/kaneapplausebw_480_360.gif

well, hey guys, this oj da juiceman freestyle is p hilarious! see ya round.

whiney youre a really subpar jblount

I think Al's posts are helpful or funny or interesting or worthwhile

― Jacka Laroo and Tyler Too (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, January 31, 2011 2:37 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yes well, you're also a blight on this board

for a guy who is supposedly a music critic you have shockingly few ideas about it

i save my opinions for when people want them instead of just diharreaing them all over ILX like some people

...like a basketball player

i save my opinions for when people want them instead of just diharreaing them all over ILX like some people

― Jacka Laroo and Tyler Too (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, January 31, 2011 2:46 PM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you have greater than 2 posts so this is bullshit

...like a basketball, player

i could do reasoned breakdowns of every single Melvins song and compare every single band to the Melvins and ruin every thread complaining that rap critics aren't up on the Melvins and punch the wall that people aren't getting the subtle nuances of Melvins song; but I have a basic understanding that not everyone wants to hear my every thought about one band

god forbid if Big Business released a bad freestyle, i'd have to white knight myself into that thread and protected it from Bid Bad Shipley

i could do reasoned breakdowns of every single Melvins song and compare every single band to the Melvins and ruin every thread complaining that rap critics aren't up on the Melvins and punch the wall that people aren't getting the subtle nuances of Melvins song; but I have a basic understanding that not everyone wants to hear my every thought about one band

― Jacka Laroo and Tyler Too (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, January 31, 2011 2:48 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

im choking on how disingenuous this is

...like a basketball player?

what it do cuz, man i'm here to stay

honest to god if you posted an actual opinion about music that wasnt actually an opinion on your house of mirrors conceptions of popular culture & who likes what & when i would love to fucking see it, just for a change of pace. your inability to conceive any kind of aesthetic worldview makes your contributions to music 'discussions' wholly worthless

then pay me

...like a basketball player!

i didnt ask for a picture of a wisecracking puppy

lol @ al managing to turn his beef into deej/whiney beef again

Aye!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_l6pnaK20-Uo/S7Nv3LRqMWI/AAAAAAAADZ0/5EhW5CSbZnM/s400/chihuahua11.jpg

i don't go to where you work and slap French Montana's dick out of your mouth

quoting memes out of context makes no sense fyi

"aesthetic worldview" is a hilarious phrase, to be fair

how so

i guess aesthetic framework might be better?

upper mississipi killing it itt

i mean even when we're talking about my supposed 'pet artists' its not like anyone else is posting about max b right now so ... of course its going to seem more like a 'pet cause' if you arent actually paying attention than if i was one of ilx's fervent yelawolf boosters

kobe, tell me how my aesth tastes

JESUS FUCK YOU GUYS WOULD RUIN A THREAD ABOUT ELVES POOPING

m@tt otm

JESUS FUCK YOU GUYS WOULD RUIN A THREAD ABOUT ELVES POOPING

― pf smangs (San Te), Monday, January 31, 2011 3:20 PM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

sorry dude i think al is kind of being a jerk & took it personally

to be fair, this is a joke thread about oj da juiceman's freestyle

thinking we should have 3 separate rap boards, one lead by al/whiney, one lead by deej/j0rdan, and one for just me to lead about rap albums that are all 10+ yaers ago that I got into last week

this is kinda part of the territory of a thread marketed at like 5 ilxors

to be fair, this is a joke thread about oj da juiceman's freestyle

― lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, January 31, 2011 4:23 PM (9 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol i know that's why it sucked when it went meta-serious

what was the point when the thread got "real"

to be fair, this is a joke thread about oj da juiceman's freestyle

― lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, January 31, 2011 3:23 PM (50 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

so its sort of odd that he started talking shit

this is kinda part of the territory of a thread marketed at like 5 ilxors

― lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, January 31, 2011 3:24 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i dunno, i think its sorta part of al & whiney just generally being dicks

i mean *call me biased* but its not like i came into this thread expecting to defend myself

http://vnmedia.ign.com/nwvault.ign.com/fms/images/modules/5412/1179779368_thumb.jpg

Look at the way the thread went man. Get a fucking grip on yourself.

1. I post a video
2. Al makes a little joke.
3. You make NINE posts defending yourself before Al even shows up again

wow

yeah thats what happened dude

j0rdan how would you rate Tha Otha Side Of The Trap and how justified do you feel i am in never being able to let deej hear the end of him giving an OJ Da Juiceman album a 7 out of 10

― some dude, Monday, January 31, 2011 1:28 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i stand by my 7.0 completely

― *kl0p* (deej), Monday, January 31, 2011 2:14 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE END OF IT. But you went into some batshit death spiral.

there's a million and one things that you could be doin than hangin' round this muthafucker talkin to ya children

i like that your argument is, 'if you had let me have the last word it would have been over'

seriously, if i knew it was this easy to get him to bite, i would have stopped coming up with zings a long time ago

― Jacka Laroo and Tyler Too (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, January 31, 2011 1:49 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this was actually pt i went from 'music discussion' to meta bullshit, not when i explained my reasoning behind liking an album. nice try though

this freestyle is pretty funny

he rhymes "basketball player" with "basketball player"

taking side: people using OJ as a foil to defend Gucci vs. you overrating OJ's album because he was the one out of the crew that had a new album out you could review when you started your Gucci champion phase

― some dude, Monday, January 31, 2011 1:51 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

& this was the pt where i feel like al is being kind of a dick more concerned w/ talking shit & making lame assumptions instead of actually expressing anything resembling his own opinion

yeah you've got me. you win. later.

― some dude, Monday, January 31, 2011 3:31 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i wasnt talking to you

what are you trying to accomplish, al

yeah you've got me. you win. later.

― some dude, Monday, January 31, 2011 3:31 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i mean, i guess u like to come here to bust each others' chops or whatever but i actually like talking about music & thats the main reason im here. i talk about lots of difft kinds of music & enjoy talking about it. i dont get what your point was in this thread except trying to make me feel bad for liking something, or being enthusiastic? and accusing me of "aggressive monomania"?? like what the fuck man. its not like you even listen to or discuss the albums people bring up in these threads, u just act 'above it all' & 'finally get around' to listening to e.g. waka like months after we recommend it. its weird behavior IMO & its difficult for me to enjoy talking w/ you any more

i would say that aw, man, cuz, man, al is in your face

aye

whiney if you're going to lamely troll me at least try to be funny

i forgot to mention that on the lil b remix he just did he mentions having six rings on

what happened to the other four?

i was always incredulous over what the xxl photo editor did to juiceman's neck on this cover

http://cdn.nahright.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/xxl-july-09.jpg

vampire weekend like a racquetball player

::trolls deej::

― some dude, Monday, January 31, 2011 1:25 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

best thread of the year so far

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sV90fpvSXU&feature=player_embedded#at=84

god damn this is the funniest video ever

― lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, January 31, 2011 1:34 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGFio2Bs4A4&feature=player_embedded

damn flocka is so skinny in that video

now the "flaco" thing at least makes sense

have so much love for both of those freestyles

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

aw man cuz

aye..

― System, Monday, March 21, 2011 9:11 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark

according to a comment on the youtube there's actually a song he uses these lyrics on too

i srsly dont think i can choose between what it do cuz man i'm here to say & aw man cuz man we in your face

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

aye

good turnout

still hilarious

lol @ deej itt

WORKING SIX CELL PHONES, NINE IN THE MORNING

In the past week or so, four songs have leaked with incredible OJ verses, and it really seems to me like he’s stepped his game up from even just last year. He sounds remarkably confident to me right now, like this little buzz he caught from Gucci and probably even Soulja Boy has really emboldened and solidified his style. He just seems like he belongs right now, and even when he’s on a song with Fabolous and Juelz he doesn’t seem out of place— in fact, guys like that seem lost in OJ’s dust to me. And that’s not to prop up OJ as more than he is, but I think he’s gotten to the point where his style isn’t a substitute for his rapping. Instead it’s a totally unique and singular flow used by someone who is also a great rapper and who just so happens to be blowing everyone else on tracks out of the water.

youtubes or it didn't happen

thats a j0rdan s quote btw

iirc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJabDpZKcKM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1PqbITTG-c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFGoesHvs04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX4O98monqw

he kills that "hustler's anthem rmx"

workin six cell phones, nine in the morning
right wrist turning, slap the cold water
pappadeaux dining, alligator order
hypnotized diamonds, in the alley w/ your daughter

FIVE CHAMPIONSHIP RINGS GOT ME FEELIN HYPED NOW
VVS DIAMONDS, YEAH JUICEMAN WIPED DOWN

hershey color lamb same color as a sundae
in ruby tuesday, but it was a monday

^__________________________________________^

let it be known that juiceman killed twista & gucci on a song

yeah fuck it i love oj

Victory

these oj da juiceman verses are prrretttty dope yup, surprisingly solid. always loved him as a personality, voice, flow, adlib, think the big difference here is his vocabulary/ideas have expanded? w/o getting stuck in awkward repetitive moments (that this thread's op is prob most extreme example of)

whats his latest tape?

His latest tape had some joints

http://twitter.com/aa000G9/status/129969378769903616

i think about this freestyle a lot, maybe too much

I think about the name "oj da juiceman" a lot

do you think Tony Allen is all like "one ring on like a rapper"

lol

His latest tape had some joints

― *rolls eyez on me* (D-40), Saturday, July 2, 2011 11:14 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark

this is inaccurate

i think about this freestyle a lot, maybe too much

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, October 28, 2011 6:16 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

i think about this freestyle a lot, maybe too much

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, October 28, 2011 6:16 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

― flopson, Saturday, 29 October 2011 03:23 (9 hours ago) Bookmark

during my day "aye!" pops into my head at random moments and I fear that some day it might actually be verbalized

feel like oj's voice in this would be used well in a zombie or monster movie

its not like there arent selected styles p verses that are as lazy as this

― *kl0p* (deej), Monday, January 31, 2011 2:15 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark

i still really really want to know what styles p. verses are as lazy as "basketball player/ basketball player"

http://www.vibe.com/sites/default/files/styles%20p.jpg

aw man, cuz, man

i still really really want to know what styles p. verses are as lazy as "basketball player/ basketball player"

― Metal Dennis Perrin (some dude), Saturday, October 29, 2011 9:21 AM Bookmark

none that bad, but there's one or two lines on the recent Master of Ceremonies full-length that are extremely lazy for Styles. I'll have to give it another listen to find which ones, but yea...(not an OJ the Juiceman fan by any means)

http://bossip.files.wordpress.com/stylespadjua.jpg

one ring on, i like a basketball player

Aye

lol @ people still saying im an 'oj fan' -- the only one who has repped for him in any serious way since the first album was jordan!

"His latest tape had some joints

― *rolls eyez on me* (D-40), Saturday, July 2, 2011 11:14 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark

this is inaccurate

― flopson, Friday, October 28, 2011 10:11 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink"

it had some beats, i should have said

i still really really want to know what styles p. verses are as lazy as "basketball player/ basketball player"

― Metal Dennis Perrin (some dude), Saturday, October 29, 2011 8:21 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i havent hunted for any but youve never heard styles rhyme a word w/ itself before? thats hardly uncommon

OJ wasnt prepared to be a rap star, that much is obvious. but fronting like hes just straight garbage is wrong.

they shouldnt have brought him to ny & had him doing songs w/ swizz, he jumped out of his own lane & it was a mistake. Maybe he didnt have the focus to make rap work as a career. but he had a unique style & charisma that many rappers ppl talk up on here dont

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3jYSxTn1AY

i havent hunted for any but youve never heard styles rhyme a word w/ itself before? thats hardly uncommon

― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Saturday, October 29, 2011 4:19 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

ok are you seriously trying to say that "ten rings on like a basketball player/ freshman of the year like a basketball player" is a totally standard beanie sigel-style same word rhyme

to be fair it sounded more like "baskuhball plee-urr" the second time

ok are you seriously trying to say that "ten rings on like a basketball player/ freshman of the year like a basketball player" is a totally standard beanie sigel-style same word rhyme

― mylo & xylotis (some dude), Saturday, October 29, 2011 3:32 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lots of rappers do this & its not different; whats lame about his freestyle isnt just that line by itself, its that theres no other content there. 2 chainz does this. its not inherently bad

really think he should make the 'basketball player' thing a phrase he uses to end every line a la Juvenile's "Ha"

the deej/whiney/al bitchfest in the middle of this thread is one of the most entertaining and vicious exchanges i've ever read on ilm

yeah, good times

obviously the main thing about the line is that it's the closest thing to an actual couplet in the whole little 'freestyle' and wouldn't be that noteworthy dropped in the middle of 16 bars. but i think deej is underestimating how it works (or fails to work, i should say) on several levels. like, usually rappers allude to basketball players having a lot of rings as in championship rings, but he's like a freshman basketball player (presumably college ball, since it's 'freshman' and not 'rookie') who hasn't played in any championships yet?

ten rings on like a basketball player
freshman of the year like a basketball (,) player

isn't as bad/confounding as

nine piece, straight 8 balls
mjg, bitch i got 8 balls

oj doesn't know better, but ross just delights in bending over and taking a shit on people like you who call him a great rapper

either in one of those lines he's saying that he has eight testicles, or he just makes two references to eight balls of cocaine, or i have no idea what he's talking about

that chorus seriously turns my brain into a pretzel

ross is a great rapper! which is why "9 piece" was so disappointing as a single choice

80% of his singles have been disappointing by any measure

well that's true too

? which ones?

i'd say it's closer to 50% than 80%

or 40%

doesnt Al hate BMF?

i do but it's obv too popular to be in the 'disappointing by any measure' category

in any event he has like 3 singles people genuinely like out of 20

o_O

the club goes crazy when the dj throws on "who gives a shit" featuring john legend or "remember that funny video" featuring r. kelly?

i mean for LEAD SINGLES off of NUMBER ONE ALBUMS they're kind of non-entities

I like both of those songs, and they were popular songs when they dropped and got played in clubs so... idgi

like, looking through his singles on Wikipedia the only ones that are questionable are:

"Here I Am"
(featuring Nelly and Avery Storm)

"Maybach Music 2"
(featuring Kanye West, T-Pain and Lil Wayne)

"9 Piece"
(featuring Lil Wayne)

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll9n6z0rZX1qgz15c.jpg

c'mon dog nobody fucked with "speedin'"...i had to look at ross's wiki page to remember that song even existed just now, i was like "i know SOMETHING flopped before 'the boss' but i can't remember what'

ross is winning right now though, hes on how many charting singles?

spreading this out over 4 years in this environment, of course hes got some flops, what major label artist doesnt

"here i am" was a pretty genuine hit, the response to it didn't seem as perfunctory and indifferent as to "push it" or "super high" (xpost)

and 9ball is actually a minor hit right? i mean, i think its wack/confusing, but its the only one i dont really like and it is successful

'super high' is awesome

obviously ross is huge right now (no pun intended) and is on a lot of records, but i brought up this convo in direct response to j0rdan acting like "9 piece" (which is a very, very minor hit) being a dud single was some kind of shock in the context of his career

i mean people treat ross like he's at the level of t.i. in his prime but at the point tip had been that big for this long he had like an hour's worth of bangers everyone can fuck with, ross has like 3 enduring songs and a bunch of guest verses on hits where he's never the best thing about the song

i think people treat Ross as more of a Diddy than a TIP

or really, a mixture of the two

Ross certainly has more than 3 enduring songs

tip's maybe not the strongest possible analogy but i have no idea where diddy comes into this

yeah I don't get the diddy thing at all

Ross has lots of enduring songs, most of which weren't singles but most of his singles are great! Honestly, his catalog is more consistent than TI's imo but I was never a huge TI fan tbh

ok so there's hustlin', bmf, the boss, maaaaybe here i am and aston martin music? you might like other songs but his catalog is not bustling with undeniable unforgettable classics is all i'm saying.

i mean you might love "super high" but nobody remembers that song and it came out LAST YEAR

by Diddy I'm talking about late 90s diddy -- he's executing large numbers of hits that dont have a distinctive 'sound', they're just big, larger than life, theatrical pop tracks with huge expensive videos etc. i mean, i think the diddy comparison is obvious

mc hammer, maybach music, MAFIA MUSIC, i'm not a star....

"I'm a Boss" is a Ross track as much as it is a Meek Mill one. that was like the anthem this summer

whats the 'mmmmaybe' on aston martin music? i still hear that on the radio

Ross is definitely as much a producer (in the widest, diddiest sense) as much as he is a rapper. t.i. is definitely more rapper than anything else. I like T.I.'s catalog more but he's a better rapper & more of an album artist, Ross is all about the art of the top 40 single

dude Ross has made two Top 40 singles in his entire career

I don't agree with that though, Ross' albums are all good front-to-back. I definitely see him as an album artist, Deeper Than rap is as complete an album as any T.I. album

ok the art of the pop rap single if u prefer

I don't agree with that though, Ross' albums are all good front-to-back. I definitely see him as an album artist, Deeper Than rap is as complete an album as any T.I. album

― Fifty-Three Percenter Godbody Knowledge (The Brainwasher), Saturday, October 29, 2011 7:15 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

eh, hes not a rapper like T.I. is though, T.I. has people invested in who he is, in a multi-dimensional sense; there are lots of great songs on his albums that couldn't be singles & are just straight raw rapping. I feel like if a Ross song doesn't seem like a good pop song, like the kind of thing that might have a shot at charting, it tends to also just be bad overall

'charting' is probably misleading -- i mean, Ross is at his best at a meeting point between rap & pop, whereas T.I. doesn't lean as heavily on the aesthetics of pop -- whether or not it charts for Ross is kind of irrelevant since i'm talking about creative success in this particular instance

Kind of having trouble buying that when T.I. is the dude who makes songs like "Whatever You Like"

like 'ASAP' by T.I., or 'be better than me,' neither of those are the kinds of singles that get big expensive videos or have the biggest R&B singers on them, or aspire to be widescreen theatrical pop music. Ross, though, is totally in this lane

xp yeah but "whatever you like" is a weak song relative to "asap"

eh, hes not a rapper like T.I. is though, T.I. has people invested in who he is, in a multi-dimensional sense; there are lots of great songs on his albums that couldn't be singles & are just straight raw rapping. I feel like if a Ross song doesn't seem like a good pop song, like the kind of thing that might have a shot at charting, it tends to also just be bad overall

― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Saturday, October 29, 2011 8:18 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

totally ("mafia music" being the obvious exception)

and to be fair to tip he didn't do any goofy shit like "whatever you like" until his sixth album

But Ross has songs like "Valley Of Death," "Tears Of Joy," and "We Shinin'" that definitely aren't "singles" but are just good album-track pure rap songs...

Deeper Than rap is as complete an album as any T.I. album

― Fifty-Three Percenter Godbody Knowledge (The Brainwasher), Saturday, October 29, 2011 8:15 PM (4 minutes ago)

wow brainwasher more like mouthwasher, which is what u need to do right now

lol, I just meant that it's a good ALBUM QUA ALBUM and not just a collection of singles or w/e

lol kevin

should maybe wash out his brain too

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/bdf/034/681/resized/unwanted-dog-meme-generator-add-to-joke-you-killed-it-cfdbbd.jpg

i'm sad that i napped thru this whole discussion

ross' softbatch singles are generally pretty worthless -- deej's repping for "super high" is bizarre unless you're counting the remix which is actually a minor classic, "speedin" and "magnificent" are just total nonentities... altho "here i am" is one of his best singles. idk, i think shipley is def underrating him... if anything last year showcased that billboard numbers aren't matching up w/ how the 'community' feels it's that BMF wasn't even big on the charts but is going to be one of the landmark rap singles of this decade. i think the thing w/ ross is that very rarely does he put out an awful single... everyone prob fucks w/ a good number of his singles, the other ones are bland enough that no one really remembers them.

i think the charts reflected "BMF"'s popularity pretty well, it was his 2nd biggest single on the R&B chart to date, didn't do much on the pop charts but obviously it was never going to be a "black and yellow" type crossover hit

ross doesn't have many outright awful songs true but that's one of benefits of having zero creativity or inkling to take any kind of risk or surprise anyone ever

having zero creativity or inkling to take any kind of risk or surprise anyone ever

this surprised me, lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsKhwg63S64

the best thing he ever did was being able to transition the persona of "rick ross" into the music of rick ross. his music initially was kind of thrown at the wall initially but it was all sorta held together by his image, but around 'deeper than rap' when he locked into that lush, expensive, luxurious, orchestral kinda sound i think the tone and direction of his career changed and he was taken more seriously by critics, fans and peers. and even now he can do street stuff like BMF (or "mafia music" or "i'm a star") that just sound HUGE and feel like an outgrowth of the expansive justice league stuff

like, i like "i'm a boss" and "here i am" a lot but if ross made those songs now you'd just be like... these are so minor, not even in terms of quality but just how they try and approach the listener

er, no "i'm a boss" but w/e the one w/ t-pain is. "the boss"

also how dare anyone question "Maybach Music 2"

i question the way t-pain pronounces "myooozeeek" and the infuriatingly smug way lil wayne says "well alright" at the beginning of his verse

wtf is 'bizarre' about repping for the original 'super high' ?? thats a dope song

it's definitely not

the production is good (shocker) but those overly heavy r&b ross songs are just kinda really mushy to me

i think "purple rain over central park chillin with my goons" is the moment i decided rick ross was a good rapper

yeah, j0rdan, i just totally disagree. expensive production, R&B superstar choruses, that stuff is part & parcel of the ross aesthetic. i mean aston martin music relies incredibly heavily on it & thats one of his best

"super high" as a concept & production was put to 1 million x better use on the remix

i don't know, "super high" and "magnificent" just feel really canned and uninspired to me

bougie r&b club ross is good ross imo

all the ross songs i really like (blow, mafia music, i'm not a star) are all the straight up rap bangers, i never really understood why someone who got his first hit with a song like 'hustlin' would kind of voluntarily make cheeseball r&b his niche

aye
(aye)

maybe idgi, but every time i hear OJ Da Juiceman rap i keep thinkin he must not have any teeth

it's the way he only pronounces the first consonant of every word he says

i bought The Otha Side of the Trap a while ago for whatever reason and it was like his lyrics came from a pre-filled Excel template...tho there were a few tracks on there that I like mostly cuz of the production (obv including "Make the Trap Say Aye").

i never liked 'make the trap aye' all that much -- and his lyrics were never particularly amazing, his flow was a unique one. i liked the way it would work on tracks like 'batman'

maybe idgi, but every time i hear OJ Da Juiceman rap i keep thinkin he must not have any teeth

― Neanderthal, Sunday, October 30, 2011 8:55 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark

this is def one of the ingredients of his appeal. if u long 4 rappers with teeth oj might not be for you

i never liked 'make the trap aye' all that much

who are you

youtube honour of the recent rick ross tangent w/in the oj da juiceman thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc-Ru_mKTBo

make tha trap say aye is one of juice's best ever verses

it's gucci on that song that is pretty eh

the remix w/ cam is sick

naw that gucci verse is great too

the twerkin birds in so we workiiiiin

young jui'e mayne god damn

aye

missed this thread

aw man, cuz, man

stay
fay
aye

it's technically sound.

― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, January 31, 2011 2:24 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://threesixtyecotique.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Faye-Dunaway-in-PUZZLE-OF-A-DOWNFALL-CHILD.jpg

dammit original video taken down due to copyright claims like a basketball, player

my favorite part of this whole thing is how they try & hide his identity as if everyone was gonna be scratching their heads & running to the comments section to try & find out which xxl freshman dropped this hot new freestyle

― lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, January 31, 2011 12:25 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^def the best part

i don't go to where you work and slap French Montana's dick out of your mouth

― Jacka Laroo and Tyler Too (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, January 31, 2011 4:12 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

HANH

aye

either in one of those lines he's saying that he has eight testicles, or he just makes two references to eight balls of cocaine, or i have no idea what he's talking about

― J0rdan S., Saturday, October 29, 2011 5:32 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just eight balls like basketballs or beach balls

was Jordan trolling?
One reference to eightballs of coke
One reference to Eightball of (and MJG)

maybe an eight ball jacket

or like an eight ball from a game of pool

the best part of this vid was how you just saw the tip of his nose floating around in the darkness

ay

i don't go to where you work and slap French Montana's dick out of your mouth

― Jacka Laroo and Tyler Too (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, January 31, 2011 4:12 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

...like a basketball player

honest to god if you posted an actual opinion about music that wasnt actually an opinion on your house of mirrors conceptions of popular culture & who likes what & when i would love to fucking see it, just for a change of pace. your inability to conceive any kind of aesthetic worldview makes your contributions to music 'discussions' wholly worthless

― *kl0p* (deej), Monday, January 31, 2011 3:56 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

then pay me

― Jacka Laroo and Tyler Too (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, January 31, 2011 4:01 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

...like a basketball player!

― smang a goon (get it on) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, January 31, 2011 4:03 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

man deej and whiney got heated

i don't go to where you work and slap French Montana's dick out of your mouth

― Jacka Laroo and Tyler Too (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, January 31, 2011 3:12 PM (five years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Is the original video available online anywhere?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xVfisP-tr8

My favorite part would have to be the "XXL PRESENTS 10 FRESHMEN FOR '10" screen tantalizing the viewer. You thought this was amazing? Well there's nine more where that came from!!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCNl1gdXgAEAXP8.jpg

did they forget to include a frat rapper this year or is he just not white is it the guy in the back right

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/europe/germany/berlin/articles/Berghain-how-to-get-into-Berlins-most-exclusive-nightclub/

i would love to see the reaction of the person that was filming this

― lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, January 31, 2011 1:25 PM (seven years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ay man
Cuz man

Lil' Mosey coming through with some major OJ Da Juiceman vibes in this years Freshman Freestyle

also watching him standing there when Megan goes after is too hilarious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f032Q6cMqco

very appropriately placed "what?" at 0:43

mosey's cypher was bad, but not funny bad like oj's

oh definitely not as funny/weirdly compelling as OJ, but it just reminded me of him

https://www.stereogum.com/2053101/dababy-xxl-freshman-cypher/franchises/status-aint-hood/

i cannot believe tom b fronted on oj like this

did y'all know that there's an official OJ Da Juiceman VST? https://t.co/Kt1kuMF0pj pic.twitter.com/zmYhNOj6UM

— ʲᵃʸ (@henologist) October 19, 2020

lol

lmao amazing

I want to see one of those beatmaker duel series do one where they can only use samples from this VST

Coi Leray (daughter of infamous Source Magazine founder/Eminem Beefer/reality show loser Benzino) brings some OJ vibes to her XXL Freshman Freestyle Cypher verse:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKgel49qA5s

(start at 3:01)

it's mostly pretty bad, not nearly on the level of oj's sublime stupidity

ha looking upthread and we had the exact same exchange about lil mosey in 2019

haha

well we'll never truly capture the magic again but just looking for that feeling again

this was one of my favorite threads and I was literally just reading last week.

I miss being involved in the goon threads, now I feel very out of it hip-hop wise.

feelin out of it, like a basketball player

this freestyle is playing in my head constantly

..
Like a basketball player

I miss the jooman.

i got birds just like twitter
you got birds just like twitter?
i got birds just like twitter
you got birds just like twitter?
i got birds just like twitter
you got birds just like twitter?
i got birds just like twitter
i got birds just like twitter
i got birds just like twitter
you got birds just like twitter?
i got birds just like twitter
you got birds just like twitter?
i got birds just like twitter
you got birds just like twitter?
i got birds just like twitter
i got birds just like twitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa_RH_eCuL8

still alive

Told my sister OJ died and she had a very Atlanta response pic.twitter.com/kwx3dCbLvk

— 🍾 Champagne Champion 🏆 (@ChampagneThames) April 11, 2024

haa

Aw man cuz man