Guns N Roses Vs Iron Maiden

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Axl on Iron Maiden in 1988. Do you agree with him?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V593MMT-DLY&feature=player_embedded

Who was best/who you like the best?

Poll Results

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Guns N Roses 51
Iron Maiden 48


Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 20 February 2011 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

*puts out the bill magill batsignal*

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 20 February 2011 20:29 (fifteen years ago)

appetite for destruction the best album of both catalogues imo, but iron maiden has more quality throughout so voted for them. curious to see how ilx in 2011 rates gnr

Mordy, Sunday, 20 February 2011 20:50 (fifteen years ago)

highly i bet

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 20 February 2011 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

Though maiden might get more votes by those who found it hard to choose until they watched that clip, hehe.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 20 February 2011 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

It's hardly a surprise. GNR opened for Maiden in Canada in early 1988, and it was no secret they didn't like each other.

A. Begrand, Sunday, 20 February 2011 20:59 (fifteen years ago)

I like both bands a lot. I like Chinese Democracy a lot. And Axl's comments are slightly justifiable viewed through the prism of 1988, when Maiden had just released Seventh Son of a Seventh Son (an album I like, but a polarizing one for sure) and would later release Fear of the Dark, a record very few people like. But the 2000s have been much, much kinder to Maiden than to Axl.

that's not funny. (unperson), Sunday, 20 February 2011 20:59 (fifteen years ago)

One of these two bands made what's probably my favorite rock album of the past quarter century, and a couple other albums I like a lot. The other one, I've never had any use for at all, though I really should get around to checking out their first two albums someday.

xhuxk, Sunday, 20 February 2011 21:09 (fifteen years ago)

I listened to Appetite constantly in the last half of 1987, but that was partially because Maiden didn't have a new album out. Over the last 18 years I've voluntarily played GNR maybe three times, zero in the last decade...it's no question whose music has resonated most with me over time.

A. Begrand, Sunday, 20 February 2011 21:32 (fifteen years ago)

No wait, I listened to Chinese Democracy once.

A. Begrand, Sunday, 20 February 2011 21:33 (fifteen years ago)

"But the 2000s have been much, much kinder to Maiden than to Axl."

Axl really hasn't been terribly kind to anyone (least of all himself) post-1988.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Sunday, 20 February 2011 21:36 (fifteen years ago)

Anyone agree with what axl says about iron maiden and "politics in music"?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 20 February 2011 22:27 (fifteen years ago)

I think he is kinda vague about it. I don't think bands are like political parties, they are - at best or worst - corporations and some of these corporations put more emphasis on making money then making music. Kiss is splendid example of that. Axl seems to imply that Maiden also puts money before anything else. I don't think that is true, and definitely was not true when this was recorded; despite the more commercial sound of Seventh Son. Besides, Maiden arrived at where they are now by hard work and believing in their dream, in a time that metal was completely ignored by the popular media, being it magazines, radio or television. Maiden's fortune didn't come overnight. I dare claim Axl never had to fight that uphill battle. His music was on radio and television from day one.

If I have to follow that a band is a political party and what a band stands for is what its members stand for, then I'm far less impressed with Axl's stand - money, sex, rock 'n' roll - than Maiden (fighting for the music and culture you like, no matter how unpopular + interest in historical topics.

Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Sunday, 20 February 2011 23:05 (fifteen years ago)

Not to mention One In A Million

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 20 February 2011 23:08 (fifteen years ago)

But what do you think he actually means by it?

Is he blaming Maiden for commercialism? Because GnR has been far more commercial from the start. Is he blaming the Maiden corporation for being a well-honed machine? Then his statements have become ironic, because Maiden continued to tour and produce albums, while he let his band fall apart and wasn't able to produce music/tour for more then a decade. He should wish he would've ended up as Maiden. Is he talking about the actual music, as in: his chart aimed hard rock is far better are more valuable then traditional heavy metal? That is just a matter of taste, no?

Not to blame him for it: artists on tour and in between concerts are always rambling in the moment, having completely forgotten their brainless statements within 24 hours.

Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Sunday, 20 February 2011 23:26 (fifteen years ago)

Iron Maiden write much better songs than Guns 'n' Roses although a handful of times Duff or Slash landed on hooks that Maiden just doesn't have an ear for. Axl is a much better pop star type dude than Bruce, for sure; but Maiden have at least four albums that shit from a great height on Appetite for Destruction. I have more love for Guns 'n' Roses than I usually end up sounding like, but musically Iron Maiden outclasses them on all fronts. Most of the moves Guns are copping seem to have been understood better by the people they learned the moves from: the Dolls, Aerosmith, Hanoi Rocks, Nazareth.

That said, the clip above is a stellar example of Rose-in-his-prime's peerless interview chops: Iron Maiden are geeks even on their coolest day, but it takes Axl a minute-ten to position himself in a sort of above-it-all center-of-gravity place. He oozes cool. If it weren't for Gaga I'd say we'd never see his likes again.

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 20 February 2011 23:32 (fifteen years ago)

gnrsuxxx

nakamura, Sunday, 20 February 2011 23:36 (fifteen years ago)

My takeaway from Axl's criticism of Maiden is that he thinks rock 'n' roll needs to be direct, written about partying, girls, love, hate, etc. and Maiden has all these high-minded concepts that make them a more theatrical band and out of touch with the common man. I don't disagree with that, but there's more than enough room for both in the rock bubble.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 20 February 2011 23:38 (fifteen years ago)

That said, if GNR had released everything else they ever released but not Appetite, I wouldn't give a damn about them. There are at least four or five Maiden albums I hold dear.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 20 February 2011 23:39 (fifteen years ago)

Most of the moves Guns are copping seem to have been understood better by the people they learned the moves from: the Dolls, Aerosmith, Hanoi Rocks, Nazareth.

Agree about three of these bands (and you left out Rose Tattoo); really don't get, though, in what sense Appetite (and maybe Lies and Spaghetti Incident too) wasn't an improvement on everything Hanoi Rocks had ever done. (And I actually like Hanoi Rocks quite a bit; I'd take them over Maiden too! But I've just never liked Maiden; find them basically unbearable, always have.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 20 February 2011 23:55 (fifteen years ago)

Not only did Guns N Roses cop the moves of Hanoi Rocks but they copped one of their tunes too.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 20 February 2011 23:58 (fifteen years ago)

Never denied that; the phrase "Welcome To The Jungle" is from a line in a Hanoi Rocks song. But GnR also improved on that band in every conceivable way.

And actually, I'd probably put Appetite up against either of the two real Dolls LPs, come to think of it; it'd be a close race.

And Maiden was preceded by scores of better bands, too, fwiw.

xhuxk, Sunday, 20 February 2011 23:59 (fifteen years ago)

Iron Maiden is one of those bands that I like so much that I can't even understand when people don't like them. Like if somebody says he can't get down with "Wasted Years" or "Flight of Icarus" it's like he just told me he hates nachos.

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 21 February 2011 00:01 (fifteen years ago)

Ha, I don't eat nachos much either.

xhuxk, Monday, 21 February 2011 00:01 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, I love those songs, but nachos are pretty gross.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 21 February 2011 00:02 (fifteen years ago)

My takeaway from Axl's criticism of Maiden is that he thinks rock 'n' roll needs to be direct, written about partying, girls, love, hate, etc. and Maiden has all these high-minded concepts that make them a more theatrical band and out of touch with the common man.

i.e. rock vs metal

Siegbran, Monday, 21 February 2011 00:03 (fifteen years ago)

Paradise City

Hanoi Rocks guitarist Andy McCoy has said that the song is copy from a couple riffs of Hanoi Rocks. He said the chorus is just the same as riff in "Lost in the City", just slowed down.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 21 February 2011 00:05 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weq1DpfnZQM

the start also sounds a bit like dont cry iirc

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 21 February 2011 00:08 (fifteen years ago)

Paradise City is such a basic song, though, that it probably could've been written in the '80s just by stepping outside and catching some air in a ziploc bag.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 21 February 2011 00:08 (fifteen years ago)

But my point about Guns' style isn't "somebody else did it first" - that's almost always true no matter who the band in question is. But it seems like while he gets that Tyler's swagger is part of what makes Aerosmith cool, he doesn't understand that wit's a big part of that swagger; that he gets that chicks dig "Love Hurts" but isn't quite sure why; that he's heard the Dolls but never hunted down the originals of "Don't Start Me Talking" or "Stranded in the Jungle." Just didn't care enough to, is the feeling I get. Johansen's got some scholar in him; Thunders is rawer, but has still been to school. But Rose always seems like he got satisfied with his influences too early, is my feeling; that he's a really incurious listener.

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 21 February 2011 00:08 (fifteen years ago)

Anybody who votes GNR itt is going to get a pair of Skechers up their ass

angel of debt!!! monarch to the kingdom of the Fed... (San Te), Monday, 21 February 2011 00:08 (fifteen years ago)

I like Appetite but put it next to Powerslave and it can eat a dick

angel of debt!!! monarch to the kingdom of the Fed... (San Te), Monday, 21 February 2011 00:09 (fifteen years ago)

people who like guns 'n' roses but think nachos are gross

http://www.coolbuddy.com/gallery_pics/imgs/I-dont-want-to-live.jpg

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 21 February 2011 00:10 (fifteen years ago)

(makes me feel like mr gingerbread milk self-drowner, to clarify, I'm rusty on imageposts)

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 21 February 2011 00:10 (fifteen years ago)

xp Well, Axl clearly cared enough about where "Love Hurts" came from to marry Don Everly's daughter. (And to include a smash hit power ballad on his first album every bit as good as Nazareth's.) He also covered a Skyliners' doo-wop song later, but then who really cares -- it's not like record collectors (and Johansen was always a great one, I agree) make better music by definition. Disagree Axl's writing early on was witless, too, even if it didn't do the tongue-twisting Tyler talk thing nearly as much. (Not at all convinced Maiden understood what made '70s metal powerful, either, but then maybe they just wanted to do something different too, right? And actually, the more GnR deviated from their influences as time went on, the less I wound up liking them.)

xhuxk, Monday, 21 February 2011 00:30 (fifteen years ago)

god i don't know if i have the balls to start what would clearly be an epic ILE poll thread about nachos

some dude, Monday, 21 February 2011 00:41 (fifteen years ago)

would it be nachos vs. something else or nachos classic or dud

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 21 February 2011 00:44 (fifteen years ago)

pro or anti i guess

some dude, Monday, 21 February 2011 00:45 (fifteen years ago)

That said, the clip above is a stellar example of Rose-in-his-prime's peerless interview chops: Iron Maiden are geeks even on their coolest day, but it takes Axl a minute-ten to position himself in a sort of above-it-all center-of-gravity place. He oozes cool.

uh more like "he oozes simple-minded, idiot junkie talk" imo

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Monday, 21 February 2011 00:47 (fifteen years ago)

if simple-minded idiot junkie talk isn't cool to you then I humbly submit that the Guns n Roses thread is not the place for you friend

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 21 February 2011 00:51 (fifteen years ago)

leave it to ilxor to make me wanna reconsider my Maiden vote

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 21 February 2011 00:51 (fifteen years ago)

weird thread

bamcquern, Monday, 21 February 2011 01:00 (fifteen years ago)

Appetite >>>>>>> Killers > Number Of The Beast > Iron Maiden (debut) > Powerslave >>>>> Other GNR Catalogue >>> Other Madien Catalogue

For me, this is a vote for Maiden.

NYCNative, Monday, 21 February 2011 01:05 (fifteen years ago)

The New York Dolls' 2nd album > The New York Dolls' 1st album >>>>> The Spaghetti Incident? >> the rest of GNR's albums >>> Iron Maiden

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 21 February 2011 01:30 (fifteen years ago)

id swap the NY dolls albums over..

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 21 February 2011 01:32 (fifteen years ago)

Nachos: Yes No?

Mordy, Monday, 21 February 2011 01:35 (fifteen years ago)

Honestly I would have to also bring to this fight that so so many of the bands inspired by the Dolls are just horrible. Like by the time GnR notice the Dolls, everybody should be completely over aping the Dolls, but no, and the subsequent dumbing-down of the Dolls' brainy bacchanalia schtick is really depressing -- it's like the distance from Henry Miller to Al Goldstein. Maiden, on the other hand, inspire Kai Hansen, and I know everybody on this thread is a big Kai Hansen fan

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 21 February 2011 01:44 (fifteen years ago)

nycnative's tabulation roughly equals mine, voted g'n'f'n'r.

balls, Monday, 21 February 2011 01:48 (fifteen years ago)

who was to blame for Winger & Warrant?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 21 February 2011 01:50 (fifteen years ago)

Axl

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 21 February 2011 01:54 (fifteen years ago)

Jon

balls, Monday, 21 February 2011 01:56 (fifteen years ago)

Honestly I would have to also bring to this fight that so so many of the bands inspired by the Dolls are just horrible. Like by the time GnR notice the Dolls, everybody should be completely over aping the Dolls, but no, and the subsequent dumbing-down of the Dolls' brainy bacchanalia schtick is really depressing --it's like the distance from Henry Miller to Al Goldstein. Maiden, on the other hand, inspire Kai Hansen, and I know everybody on this thread is a big Kai Hansen fan

Goldstein, Miller, Hansen, what?

bamcquern, Monday, 21 February 2011 02:00 (fifteen years ago)

What all around.

bamcquern, Monday, 21 February 2011 02:00 (fifteen years ago)

GNR was supposed to open for Iron Maiden when I saw them back in high school but they pulled off the tour a couple weeks before the show and the opener was some bad band called I think Wasted.

GNR named checked the Dolls, but their sound was more of a muscular update on Aerosmith.

earlnash, Monday, 21 February 2011 02:09 (fifteen years ago)

maiden are way dorkier so i relate to them more

pre-prison, prison, and post-prison (latebloomer), Monday, 21 February 2011 02:40 (fifteen years ago)

even though i like gnr i never could relate to them lyrically and i kind of hate axl as a human being

pre-prison, prison, and post-prison (latebloomer), Monday, 21 February 2011 02:42 (fifteen years ago)

GNR named checked the Dolls, but their sound was more of a muscular update on Aerosmith.

― earlnash, Monday, February 21, 2011 2:09 AM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark

totally

pre-prison, prison, and post-prison (latebloomer), Monday, 21 February 2011 02:47 (fifteen years ago)

Guns N Roses Vs Iron Maiden Vs Pantera Vs Burzum?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 21 February 2011 02:54 (fifteen years ago)

(if you read the black metal thread you will get it)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 21 February 2011 02:54 (fifteen years ago)

I have never heard a whole Hanoi Rocks song. Pressed play on that YouTube clip above and lasted 1:13. Awful stuff.

that's not funny. (unperson), Monday, 21 February 2011 03:01 (fifteen years ago)

The best Hanoi Rocks album is the 1st one. Check this track out, It's my fave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM4BqmRA9WM

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 21 February 2011 03:04 (fifteen years ago)

Appetite is undoubtedly one of the greatest rock albums ever. Killers is its equal in every way, save for the fact that it hasn't been embraced by the populace.

GnR only has one Appetite. Maiden has many albums that are nearly as fine as Killers. (Chuck--Killers might be the best album you've never heard!)

I like Priest better than either though.

Nate Carson, Monday, 21 February 2011 03:29 (fifteen years ago)

Appetite for Destruction is a great album but the idea that it is better than either D'ianno album, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, or even Seventh Son is making me chuckle.

angel of debt!!! monarch to the kingdom of the Fed... (San Te), Monday, 21 February 2011 03:29 (fifteen years ago)

^^What Nate said.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 21 February 2011 03:30 (fifteen years ago)

Yea Priest will always be in my canon

angel of debt!!! monarch to the kingdom of the Fed... (San Te), Monday, 21 February 2011 03:30 (fifteen years ago)

Priest has wit and swagger, but they're not afraid to lick ass.

Nate Carson, Monday, 21 February 2011 03:36 (fifteen years ago)

New board description

angel of debt!!! monarch to the kingdom of the Fed... (San Te), Monday, 21 February 2011 03:38 (fifteen years ago)

Made it 1:26 into that Hanoi Rocks song (first chorus). Thought the guitar sound was weak, hated the disco bass, the vocalist is awful and the backing vocals on the chorus were worse.

that's not funny. (unperson), Monday, 21 February 2011 04:01 (fifteen years ago)

other than that, Mrs. lincoln...

angel of debt!!! monarch to the kingdom of the Fed... (San Te), Monday, 21 February 2011 04:02 (fifteen years ago)

Seriously, they're just one of those bands I don't get and never will.

that's not funny. (unperson), Monday, 21 February 2011 04:03 (fifteen years ago)

Like T. Rex.

that's not funny. (unperson), Monday, 21 February 2011 04:03 (fifteen years ago)

I don't really get T. Rex either...don't have strong feelings either way about em. the only album I've heard of theirs is the one with Metal Guru

angel of debt!!! monarch to the kingdom of the Fed... (San Te), Monday, 21 February 2011 04:04 (fifteen years ago)

Sometimes I'll watch Metal Mania on VH1classic and something like "Run to the Hills" will come on, and I will be struck by just how much Bruce Dickinson's stage presence was an exact model for bicycle shorts era Axl.

I'm the drunk dude from Houston (Zachary Taylor), Monday, 21 February 2011 05:43 (fifteen years ago)

Thought the guitar sound was weak, hated the disco bass, the vocalist is awful and the backing vocals on the chorus were worse.

This should be put on a sticker on every Hanoi Rocks cd.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 21 February 2011 05:45 (fifteen years ago)

I really like Hanoi Rocks' first album. And I like their later stuff, too, but I'm not as familiar with it.

bamcquern, Monday, 21 February 2011 06:00 (fifteen years ago)

surprised the stones haven't been mentioned, since they're more a template for gnr than aerosmith (who bit the stones hard). 'appetite' wishes it could be 'exile.' i'll take "rocks off" over "welcome to the jungle," "loving cup" over "sweet child o mine," and "happy" over "paradise city." axl comes off like a complete tool in that interview too -- whatever he was worried about catching from maiden, i'm sorry, "november rain"? for real? fuck you. dolphins swam in the street in that fucking video. "patience" is still a decent song and everything, but it's no "aces high"

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 21 February 2011 06:15 (fifteen years ago)

a fairer poll would be metallica vs. maiden, or slayer vs. maiden, or sabbath vs. maiden

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 21 February 2011 06:17 (fifteen years ago)

I love November Rain. Dolphins swimming in the street sounds cool to me (although was that the Estranged video?).

bamcquern, Monday, 21 February 2011 06:20 (fifteen years ago)

Appetite for Destruction is a great album but the idea that it is better than either D'ianno album, Piece of Mind, Powerslave, or even Seventh Son is making me chuckle.

Disagree completely and I voted Maiden.

I think that this vote would go along geographical lines somewhat. Not to say that all European rock/metal fans would choose Maiden over GNR compared to Americans but I think there would be a noticable trend.

(I, myself, thwart that trend, incidentally.)

NYCNative, Monday, 21 February 2011 07:13 (fifteen years ago)

"november rain"? for real? fuck you.

very tempting display-name bait

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 21 February 2011 07:47 (fifteen years ago)

isn't that interview clip from some bbc metal special? I've seen it before.

nayway, pretty funny to watch knowing that maiden have put out tons of solid and sometimes great material with no fuss since while axl has attempted to stay relevant in the most painful and embarrassing ways.

voting maiden. not even close for me. (I guess I did like that gnr song in terminator 2, tho.)

original bgm, Monday, 21 February 2011 16:19 (fifteen years ago)

Axl is 100% correct and that clip is awesome.

billstevejim, Monday, 21 February 2011 16:22 (fifteen years ago)

can someone parse axl for me? is he ragging on maiden for being political or is he saying that maiden operates as a political unit or that all bands operate that way, and that his politics are different from theirs, or that the interviewer was in Crass, so he was addressing the politics of Crass directly, or that the politics of GNR is apolitical, or GNR is pro-dolphin, or what?

Philip Nunez, Monday, 21 February 2011 17:18 (fifteen years ago)

i took it that he's not actually talking about politics, just that their aesthetics as bands are completely different, and that he doesn't want to be associated with them?

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 21 February 2011 17:21 (fifteen years ago)

Izzy's hilarious end to the interview is more important than Axl's interview imo

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 21 February 2011 17:24 (fifteen years ago)

axl's drawing distinctions based on band logo typeface?

Philip Nunez, Monday, 21 February 2011 17:28 (fifteen years ago)

because maiden wins in that fight.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 21 February 2011 17:29 (fifteen years ago)

i think axl's ragging on maiden because they went prog. maiden's most recent album was seventh son of a seventh son, high concept and synthy, and i think axl's saying he hopes that never happens to them. which if i'm right would be ironic, given where gnr ended up using their illusions

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 21 February 2011 17:39 (fifteen years ago)

Axl looks hot in that video. First time I find him hot and it's not changing my mind about their music.

Moka, Monday, 21 February 2011 17:43 (fifteen years ago)

The diff between when Iron Maiden and GNR went "prog" is that Iron Maiden didn't sound like a steaming pile of armadillo shit when they did

angel of debt!!! monarch to the kingdom of the Fed... (San Te), Monday, 21 February 2011 17:46 (fifteen years ago)

axl dramatically downing big sips of coke is pretty hilarious.

honestly, I don't think what he's saying goes much deeper than, "maiden are nerds, we aren't." the "political" stuff is just smokescreen.

original bgm, Monday, 21 February 2011 17:48 (fifteen years ago)

He does have a point tho, Iron Maiden come from a school where the genre serves a higher meaning. Guns N Roses were more connected to the mundane and the superficial rockstar life.
It's nerds vs fratboys.

Moka, Monday, 21 February 2011 17:48 (fifteen years ago)

Maiden being nerds was well documented by that point. I remember a Guitar magazine article where they gushed over all kinds of prog, and Journey

angel of debt!!! monarch to the kingdom of the Fed... (San Te), Monday, 21 February 2011 17:50 (fifteen years ago)

I agree, he does have something of a point. but it's muddled by many layers of self-delusion and ego. xpost

original bgm, Monday, 21 February 2011 17:53 (fifteen years ago)

I think it's more muddled by being muddled. I have no idea what he's saying, and the WATSON computer would probably crash if what he said was a Jeopardy question.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 21 February 2011 17:56 (fifteen years ago)

lol

original bgm, Monday, 21 February 2011 17:58 (fifteen years ago)

Lol x2

angel of debt!!! monarch to the kingdom of the Fed... (San Te), Monday, 21 February 2011 17:59 (fifteen years ago)

loooooool

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Monday, 21 February 2011 18:12 (fifteen years ago)

I'm being serious!

"They're (Maiden) nice guys"
"you (the interviewer) know" OK so "you" is now the interviewer
"your band (whose band?) is like a political thing" Wait now who is "you" referring to? Did Maiden walk into the room just now and Axl's going, "Wassup?"
"your (who?) album is like your political stance" If Axl is using the word "political" as euphemism for prog nerdery...
"their's (Maiden's album/political stance) is completely different from ours" then why does he compare one kind of prog nerdery to GNR's kind?

Philip Nunez, Monday, 21 February 2011 18:21 (fifteen years ago)

puts out the bill magill batsignal*

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, February 20, 2011 3:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

He's here. Maiden.

The Curse of Dennis Stratton (Bill Magill), Monday, 21 February 2011 18:30 (fifteen years ago)

hey bill!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 21 February 2011 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

I thought what axl said was pretty coherent. He said your band is LIKE a political organization - he's making an off-the-cuff comparison, and maybe he's thought about it before and maybe he hasn't, but it didn't take much guesswork to see that he thinks his band's musical aims are different from Iron Maiden's (to him, GnR are a rock band and Maiden are whatever - not rock n roll). You can disagree with him, but he's not incoherent. And maybe it was "catching," whatever Maiden had. Also he seems cool in that clip, which is scary for me to think that because I'm sure he was a total dick.

bamcquern, Monday, 21 February 2011 18:32 (fifteen years ago)

Much as he dismisses modern Kiss, I think what Axl is railing about is how Maiden by that time was a cottage industry, and he felt that this industry (Sanctuary Management headed by Rod Smallwood) overtook the tunes as a focal point for it's members.

I'm guessing that Axl had no feelings whatsoever on Maiden's music (just was never something on his radar) however being on tour with them, the machinery behind them pressed his buttons at a time when GNR were young, hungry, snotty and the punk attitide the Gunners adopted.

He felt that they were an organization that cared more about world domination and to personify that, a small part of that quest probably meant quashing the desires and semi-demands of the supporting Gunners on their tour. And that would never do.

Having worked for a label that dealt with Sanctuary (and who would soon purchase said label) I can vouch for their micro-management and desires to have their tentacles in everything. This is why every few years the Maiden catalogue goes from one label to another - they own that shit and license it all out for limited times to extract maximum value beyond that of just royalties.

Still, all of this is ironic because as much as Santuary is a machine, when the Gunners became the biggest rock band in the land, the machine behind them was a thousand times more domineering.

So I think that video encapsulates a time when Axl was young and angry at the business of music and angry at musicians he viewed as putting commerce ahead of the rock. I wonder if today's Axl would even recognize him.

NYCNative, Monday, 21 February 2011 18:35 (fifteen years ago)

Whose band is like a political organization? Maiden's or everyone's? It's pretty ambiguous and I'm not sure if Axl knows what he's saying. It sounds like he's conflating something he's thought about before w/r/t how bands are essentially political constructs with his current thought which is dissing Maiden, with another thought, which is to be diplomatic ("they're nice guys") and it's a total mess. If the Kiss thing relates to what he's saying, then it's even less clear what he means -- does he mean "political organization" to be "rock star management"?

That he doesn't want to be compared to Maiden is clear. Exactly why is garbled garbage, and cutting off Izzy when he's trying to help didn't help.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 21 February 2011 18:44 (fifteen years ago)

Maiden. always.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSTBlbylMzM&feature=fvw

reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 21 February 2011 18:53 (fifteen years ago)

That is an interesting post but axl is definitely talking about what the bands sound like. And when he says he doesn't understand "what they do," he means he doesn't understand the appeal of Maiden's music (which is "what they do," make their music), probably particularly how they sounded on that tour. Axl keeps saying "like" a political organization or political stance, and then the rest of what he says has to do with how a band sounds and whether they are rock n roll (no more "like"). He says he doesn't think Maiden are rock n roll.

That was an expostulated. This is to Nunez:

He's saying that all bands are like political organizations, and their music is like their political stance. Their political stance is rock n roll.

He starts by saying that they have a lot of influences, because that's the first thing that comes to mind when he starts trying to answer - he wants to make comparisons. So he cites early Kiss, and this is a shorthand for the kinds of bands he wants to be compared to, and this makes him think of latter-day Kiss and how much they suck. And when he's talking about Kiss you can see that he doesn't mean literal politics later on, because what he has in common with them is liking money and girls, and it's the music that's different. "Money and girls" aren't a good way to distinguish yourself politically from other bands and their management. He doesn't mention management once, but he does say that they're a rock n roll band and he basically says that these other bands suck so much that he doesn't understand them. Not that he isn't like the young dude posturing who can't admit to liking anything that UNSPECIFIED YOU like.

bamcquern, Monday, 21 February 2011 18:59 (fifteen years ago)

Expostulated? Xpost. Beware of autocorrect.

bamcquern, Monday, 21 February 2011 19:00 (fifteen years ago)

I didn't notice him interrupting Izzy. Maybe Izzy got mad and later on was all like, You always talk over me!

bamcquern, Monday, 21 February 2011 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

I think the "they're nice guys" is just an impulse. It might be diplomacy because he's about to say their music sucks, or there might be an element of his brain wanting to verbalize every little thing he thinks. I'm that way. Sometimes I can't prioritize so something irrelevant like "they're nice guys" comes out. This guy made three albums that he wanted to stuff everything into, so maybe his language ordering is similar, maybe he wants every little possible thing he thinks to be represented through his mouth.

bamcquern, Monday, 21 February 2011 19:09 (fifteen years ago)

I see this thread heading into "sleep - that's where I'm a Viking!" territory...

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 21 February 2011 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

I voted Maiden and I like Seventh Son but lets' be clear on the fact that--at that time--Maiden was heavy on guitar-synths and pompous, theatrical stage shows and who knew where they'd go next?

It's really easy to understand why Axl would distance his "rock" band from that because he hadn't yet had time to re-invent himself as the wigger Elton John.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 00:54 (fifteen years ago)

Wish he was still the wigger Elton John. They'd be my favorite band.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 00:59 (fifteen years ago)

at a time when GNR were young, hungry, snotty and the punk attitide the Gunners adopted.

wait since when did a coked-up poodlehaired manufactured glamrock band like GnR become punk?

Siegbran, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:39 (fifteen years ago)

i think he's right that g n r is rock n' roll and maiden isn't.

voted maiden

he do the waka lyfe (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:41 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, GNR might have been grittier, but they were just as contrived and marketed as any other Sunset Strip band, going back to their fake live EP.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:42 (fifteen years ago)

duff was punk!

he do the waka lyfe (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:50 (fifteen years ago)

When in history did "contrived and marketed" ever contradict "punk"??

xhuxk, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:53 (fifteen years ago)

I don't think GNR were ever punk, more just raw rock 'n roll.

also they shouldn't be covering The Misfits

angel of debt!!! monarch to the kingdom of the Fed... (San Te), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 23:56 (fifteen years ago)

When in history did "contrived and marketed" ever contradict "punk"??

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he do the waka lyfe (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:00 (fifteen years ago)

but yea if you exclude 'marketed' then bye bye Sex Pistols from 'punk'

angel of debt!!! monarch to the kingdom of the Fed... (San Te), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:01 (fifteen years ago)

that's what xhukx is saying. the clash were even more contrived if you ask me

he do the waka lyfe (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:03 (fifteen years ago)

I mostly don't think GNR were punk for sonic reasons although I know those that believe 'punk' is an attitude and not a sound will disagree with me.

angel of debt!!! monarch to the kingdom of the Fed... (San Te), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:05 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i don't know if they are punk to me either, but they are close sometimes. i can basically do mental gymnastics to say anything i like is punk in spirit tho

he do the waka lyfe (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:07 (fifteen years ago)

Guns N' Roses meant so much to me in 1988-89 when I was 11 years old and just discovering music that I cannot be objective about them. Maiden were too dungeons and dragons for me back then.

sofatruck, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:13 (fifteen years ago)

I don't get the 'dungeons and dragons' critique. they never sang about such things, like, ever.

angel of debt!!! monarch to the kingdom of the Fed... (San Te), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:14 (fifteen years ago)

I mean, they were nerds, and they did write 14 minute pics about Rime of the Ancient Mariner, but it isn't like they were Helloween....

angel of debt!!! monarch to the kingdom of the Fed... (San Te), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:15 (fifteen years ago)

pics=tracks

angel of debt!!! monarch to the kingdom of the Fed... (San Te), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:15 (fifteen years ago)

I realize this now, but I was 11 and judging by album covers.

sofatruck, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:16 (fifteen years ago)

I picked up Nikki Sixx's Heroin Diaries this weekend and found this pertinent quote:

Touring with the same band for support gets so boring after a while. I guess if it was a band I really loved and not fucking Whitesnake, it wouldn't be so bad. This is actually worse than when we toured with Iron Maiden...I remember being backstage listening to them and thinking all their songs sounded like the theme from Bonanza, with the gallop and all. I really can't wait for Slash and the guys to come out.

I love Iron Maiden, but I voted for Guns, and probably like Motley Crue better than either of them.

kkvgz, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 12:57 (fifteen years ago)

Jesus, Nikki Sixx, you are a fool. Maiden utterly destroys your band. You should have been thanking your lucky stars you were lucky enough to tour with a real band.

The Curse of Dennis Stratton (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 14:45 (fifteen years ago)

I remember reading that derisive quote from Nikki Six before. I almost mentioned it myself upthread.

Semi-pertinent storytime: I was interviewing Redd Kross around the time of the awesomely underrated 'Phaseshifter' album and I asdked the McDonald brothers why they insisted on playing with the hardcore bands at the time and the abuse that came with it when they could have sonicaly hooked up with the strip bands that were playing i the same city at the same time! (I did this interview for e metal magazine, which prompted the question, though I still thought it was a valid and interesting thing to ask.)

Their response (paraphrased) was that they actually did a show once with Poison, they heard that they were this band that liked the New York Dolls. But when they got there, they - even though both bands were unsigned - had a rented limo and a sign on the dressing room door that proclaimed them the "Glitter Glam Slam Kings of Rock and Roll" or some such silliness.

He said "It turned out it was like this second generation of Van Halen. And we wanted to have nothing to do with that at all!"

I'll bet the Poison guys didn't dig Maiden either. They just weren't on their radar, like at all.

NYCNative, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:23 (fifteen years ago)

Poison >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Redd Kross

that's not funny. (unperson), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:25 (fifteen years ago)

Van Halen>anyone else mentioned on this thread

kkvgz, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:28 (fifteen years ago)

Whitesnake>>>>>>>Poison

The Curse of Dennis Stratton (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:39 (fifteen years ago)

I don't get the 'dungeons and dragons' critique. they never sang about such things, like, ever.

oh c'mon, writing songs about sword fights, viking warriors, and dune is pretty d&d.

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:42 (fifteen years ago)

Van Halen that rare example of a band whose later suckassishness has made the stuff I used to love almost completely unenjoyable. Records that sounded very cool at the time now sound to me like Clowns In Training

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:42 (fifteen years ago)

gimme a fucking break, Maiden all the way. Axl isn't fit to lick Bruce Dickinson's RAF bootheels

ice cr?m's world of female people (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:44 (fifteen years ago)

Poison >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Redd Kross

NO

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:57 (fifteen years ago)

um yeah that's goin a little far

ice cr?m's world of female people (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:58 (fifteen years ago)

"I remember being backstage listening to them and thinking all their songs sounded like the theme from Bonanza, with the gallop and all. "

huh? theme from Bonanza is awesome. this guy Nikki Sixx must be on drugs.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 18:06 (fifteen years ago)

hahahahaha

original bgm, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 18:07 (fifteen years ago)

lol

ice cr?m's world of female people (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 18:10 (fifteen years ago)

Van Halen that rare example of a band whose later suckassishness has made the stuff I used to love almost completely unenjoyable. Records that sounded very cool at the time now sound to me like Clowns In Training

Nah, can't stand with you on this one. Those first six albums are all glorious, and the debut and Fair Warning are damn close to untouchable.

that's not funny. (unperson), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

yeah I just pretend that the post-Roth years don't exist, basically

oddly, I have still never heard Fair Warning

ice cr?m's world of female people (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

Whitesnake>>>>>>>Poison

This is tough, actually. I only like one Whitesnake record (Live...In the Heart of the City), but I like it more than the one Poison album I like (the debut). Not by that much, though. Poison wrote some damn catchy songs.

that's not funny. (unperson), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

SMC, you gotta hear Fair Warning. It's the meanest record they ever made, Roth-era or otherwise.

that's not funny. (unperson), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 18:33 (fifteen years ago)

The anti '80s commercial metal sentiments on this thread are just kinda depressing in general. Reminds me of Metallica fans in the mid '80s calling Poison fags who couldn't play their instruments, which was dumb then and it's even dumber now. I mean, I get that everybody likes Iron Maiden more than I do; I'm used to that, maybe I just have a blind spot or whatever. But hair/pop/glam metal produced tons of great music. If you guys are dismissing all of it now, all the way to early fucking Van Halen, you are missing out, and I'm sad for you.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

I'm sure fans of the music you dismiss feel exactly the same though.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 18:48 (fifteen years ago)

That's true. And I'm probably overstating things anyway -- doubt many people here would dismiss all '80s pop metal. I'm just kind of surprised, that's all.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 19:01 (fifteen years ago)

well I defended hanoi rocks from the haters who like other pop metal fans so probably everyone will like 1 band or even at least one song. Look at the wimpiest band thread for the pop metal I hate (which i bet you will like now haha)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

Roth-era Halen is great. Poison, Whitesnake, Crue = eh I really have zero inclination to listen to any of this, it's all tinny as fuck and just shittily written

ice cr?m's world of female people (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 19:08 (fifteen years ago)

like my wife found her cassette of Look What the Cat Dragged In recently and I was surprised at how tuneless and thin it all was. I guess some of that could be attributed to the aged cassette itself but really it was just ugh. Oddly what it reminded me of sonically the most was the Replacements' Tim haha

ice cr?m's world of female people (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 19:09 (fifteen years ago)

(another album I never have any inclination to listen to btw)

ice cr?m's world of female people (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

Someone here said that Poison was better than Redd Kross and that Van Halen was better than anything else in this thread, xhuxh! That's not a dismissal!

NYCNative, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

just crazy!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 27 February 2011 00:01 (fifteen years ago)

who will win?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 27 February 2011 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

if GNR wins, I'm going to give my account and password to Whiney for him to shit up the board. this coincides with a reminder that there are 47 minutes left to vote.

i seen a man *plop* (San Te), Sunday, 27 February 2011 23:13 (fifteen years ago)

man I'll stand up for the Motley Crue debut anyday & much of Shout at the Devil, I just think a lot of Sunset Strip-style shit (like Guns) is a lot more interesting in theory than practice. As soon as these guys get old enough to drink they just become Howard Stern listeners with recording contracts. I'll rep for Ratt's riffs, but even the most infantile thrash lyricist writes rings around Pearcy & co. lyrically imo...my metal sympathies are always with the geeks in their garages more than the cool dudes in Camaros.

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 27 February 2011 23:17 (fifteen years ago)

san te no point in getting mad, commercial hard rock is always going to beat out heavy metal not just on ilm but in the real world too.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 27 February 2011 23:25 (fifteen years ago)

im gonna guess that gnr gets around 30 votes and maiden 20ish.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 27 February 2011 23:26 (fifteen years ago)

It's funny, in the last decade I've listened to '81-'85 Sunset Strip metal far more than '86 and beyond. GNR's gutter shtick feels so manufactured compared to the shameless pop brilliance of early Crue/Ratt/Dokken/etc.

A. Begrand, Sunday, 27 February 2011 23:31 (fifteen years ago)

Flash in the pan band (comparitively) vs. a long career, decade spanning awesomeness..
I can't even grant G'n'R any ligitimisy these days, I don't consider the Axl Rose project, G'n'R..

SeanWayne, Sunday, 27 February 2011 23:32 (fifteen years ago)

this will be close, right?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 27 February 2011 23:42 (fifteen years ago)

Axl is hella cute in that youtube clip tbh

La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 27 February 2011 23:44 (fifteen years ago)

ohh 51-48

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 28 February 2011 00:00 (fifteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 28 February 2011 00:01 (fifteen years ago)

Hi San Te! (or should I say Whiney now?)

La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 28 February 2011 00:01 (fifteen years ago)

fuck off ILX

i seen a man *plop* (San Te), Monday, 28 February 2011 00:02 (fifteen years ago)

see me hit you
you fall do-ow-owwn!

correct result, but axl thinking he is something massively different from iron maiden is on some hilarious narcissism of small differences shit.

kkvgz, Monday, 28 February 2011 00:18 (fifteen years ago)

johnny fever has finally taken over ilm

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 28 February 2011 00:20 (fifteen years ago)

More disclosure from nikki sixx's book: everybody in his band fucked Bruce Dickinson's wife, which inspired the latter to write "Tattooed Millionaire." I'm currently reading "Slash", and will totally update this thread if I find out that anyone from GnR fucked Bruce Dickinson's wife.

kkvgz, Monday, 28 February 2011 00:26 (fifteen years ago)

Chuck, you still need to spin Killers back to back with Appetite. Those two records (along with the first Cars and AC/DC Back in Black) are just superlative rock albums with no filler at all.

I think it's funny that D&D turns anyone off. That's part of what got me IN to metal.

Nate Carson, Monday, 28 February 2011 01:12 (fifteen years ago)

How did AG know the results before they were posted?

I thought for sure Iron Maiden was going to win.

bamcquern, Monday, 28 February 2011 01:46 (fifteen years ago)

its no secret. its been like that since polls began noone even asks now how anyone knows heh. I did it years ago and so have others, no idea who noticed it first. Anyway at midnight the results are through but it takes about 30 seconds for "system" to post on all the threads.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 28 February 2011 02:08 (fifteen years ago)

Oh. Cool trick.

bamcquern, Monday, 28 February 2011 02:19 (fifteen years ago)

margin shoulda been way huger

billstevejim, Monday, 28 February 2011 03:47 (fifteen years ago)

For Maiden. Like AfD but fuck all else

i seen a man *plop* (San Te), Monday, 28 February 2011 03:52 (fifteen years ago)

ie ILX in wrong result shockah

i seen a man *plop* (San Te), Monday, 28 February 2011 03:53 (fifteen years ago)

There's no GnR jokes in Bill & Teds... I think that tells you everything you need to know.

no pop, no style -- all simply (Viceroy), Monday, 28 February 2011 03:54 (fifteen years ago)

wait what happened to Whiney?

I always miss these things

also San Te otm

ice cr?m's world of female people (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 February 2011 05:18 (fifteen years ago)

oh wtf at these results

enjoy yr racism, ILM

DJP, Monday, 28 February 2011 05:19 (fifteen years ago)

USA! USA! USA!

ice cr?m, Monday, 28 February 2011 05:20 (fifteen years ago)

gnr voters - you sicken me to my core

original bgm, Monday, 28 February 2011 06:01 (fifteen years ago)

Dan, as far as I know, Iron Maiden never had any black people in the band.

kkvgz, Monday, 28 February 2011 10:20 (fifteen years ago)

you mean did not exploit any... ;)

Ludo, Monday, 28 February 2011 10:26 (fifteen years ago)

dude.

kkvgz, Monday, 28 February 2011 10:28 (fifteen years ago)

steve harris is one sixth pharoah

reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 28 February 2011 11:03 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.lyrics007.com/Guns%20N'%20Roses%20Lyrics/One%20In%20A%20Million%20Lyrics.html

Never forget

DJP, Monday, 28 February 2011 12:19 (fifteen years ago)

DJP otm even if gnr were musically interesting enough to bear close scrutiny, which they kind of aren't - take the trainwreck-in-motion aspect away from this band and you're left with the inescapable conclusion that Black 'n' Blue, Badlands, and a dozen other pop-metal bands of that era were much better

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 28 February 2011 13:58 (fifteen years ago)

I heart you for mentioning Black 'N Blue. Jamie St. James 4ever.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 28 February 2011 14:01 (fifteen years ago)

I mean, I like "Sweet Child O' Mine" too, but COME ON

DJP, Monday, 28 February 2011 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

Guns and Roses had one good album. Maiden had something like 10 and is still going strong. There have been some ludicrous poll results here, but this may be the worst.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 28 February 2011 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, but that one album beat all of IM's.

(I have none of these, but hey an opinion)

Mark G, Monday, 28 February 2011 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

At least hear Number of the Beast and Powerslave

DJP, Monday, 28 February 2011 15:06 (fifteen years ago)

Don't want to.

Mark G, Monday, 28 February 2011 15:07 (fifteen years ago)

I didn't vote, anyway.

Mark G, Monday, 28 February 2011 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

Basically I was very skeptical of Iron Maiden due to their cover art and negative associations with maybe 70% of the kids at my school who were into them, and then I heard "Aces High" and went "oh damn"

DJP, Monday, 28 February 2011 15:11 (fifteen years ago)

To be honest, much as I love some early Maiden, I voted for GNR because of history. It was a really pivotal album in my high school days - united disparate crowds and soundtracked lots of memories. Maiden was around, but as my friends and I really disliked the albums they were putting out in the late 80s, they weren't creating memories.

Objectively, I'd put Live After Death and Killers over Appetite these days, but I don't have any emotional attachment or baggage to go with them. At fifteen, my first real serious girlfriend liked Appetite; puppy love is hard to beat.

Unless it's up against Judas Priest. Priest conquers all.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 28 February 2011 15:15 (fifteen years ago)

wow Priest vs. Maiden would be up on some which-parent-do-you-forsake action for me

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 28 February 2011 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

someone do the poll

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 28 February 2011 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

Which parent does Smithy forsake - Iron Maiden Vs Judas Priest

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 28 February 2011 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, but that one album beat all of IM's.

(I have none of these, but hey an opinion)

― Mark G, Monday, February 28, 2011 10:05 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

No. Not even close.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 28 February 2011 16:27 (fifteen years ago)

OK.

Mark G, Monday, 28 February 2011 16:54 (fifteen years ago)

serious question: are there any good iron maiden songs for strippers? thx.

kkvgz, Monday, 28 February 2011 21:10 (fifteen years ago)

murders in the rue morgue

it made me wish batman had written an article on mfas (Edward III), Monday, 28 February 2011 21:13 (fifteen years ago)

"Women in Uniform"? That's a cover, though.

A. Begrand, Monday, 28 February 2011 21:14 (fifteen years ago)

number of the breasts

kkvgz, Monday, 28 February 2011 21:14 (fifteen years ago)

charlotte the harlot obv

it made me wish batman had written an article on mfas (Edward III), Monday, 28 February 2011 21:15 (fifteen years ago)

Really? I've never understood the, 'well, I don't know the one, but I really like the other' arguement. If its a one or the other poll, at least have some knowledge of both... otherwise, hush.

SeanWayne, Monday, 28 February 2011 22:44 (fifteen years ago)

serious question: are there any good iron maiden songs for strippers? thx.

whole bunch of 'em on this comp but if real deal only "Wrathchild" maybe musically, except that lyrically it's a song about searching for your father so maybe not

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 11:22 (fifteen years ago)

Something about who's your father

reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 11:50 (fifteen years ago)

favorite thing about "Wrathchild" lyric is that is forces Di'Anno to sing the words "I'm gonna travel around!" like he was threatening to brain somebody with a tire iron

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 11:52 (fifteen years ago)

this is a thread that really cries out for the mark s touch

ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 14:49 (fifteen years ago)

i think we lost sinker for good sadly

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 16:02 (fifteen years ago)


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