Jamie Woon - Mirrorwriting

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the new single is fucking great http://pitchfork.com/forkcast/15441-lady-luck-al-fresco/

this album is gonna rule imo

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 06:17 (fourteen years ago)

yep i'm feeling this

ciderpress, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 06:38 (fourteen years ago)

ciderpress otm

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 06:39 (fourteen years ago)

everyone itt otm up to now

StanM, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:15 (fourteen years ago)

feeling "lady luck"

lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:16 (fourteen years ago)

This album is really good.

DL, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 10:32 (fourteen years ago)

Haven't heard the full album but everything on the sampler is spectacular. Exactly what you'd expect, in the best possible sense.

Tim F, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 12:26 (fourteen years ago)

The Lewis Taylor influence is v obvious across the span of the album.

I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 12:38 (fourteen years ago)

bastards all

Jedmond, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 12:48 (fourteen years ago)

"Lewis Taylor influence" = I'm in

Nulty By Nature (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 12:53 (fourteen years ago)

yep. i guess i have to thank whoever posted a track of his in the james blake thread for how much i'm jonesing to hear a full record. is burial supposedly producing the whole thing, or just certain songs?

borntohula, Thursday, 24 February 2011 02:08 (fourteen years ago)

I may well have posted the Woon vid in that thread, I can't be arsed to check mind... I think Burial only does bits and bobs, not even full tracks, just adds Burial-ness here and there. Thats what I read in a Woon interview a little while ago anyway, wish I could remember where I saw that. If anything is as good as his track with Subeena I'll be happy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dw1PTtu2dE

jimitheexploder, Thursday, 24 February 2011 11:32 (fourteen years ago)

I'm told Burial does "additional production" and Woon does the bulk of the production himself. It's certainly more like soul by other means than dubstep with songs.

DL, Thursday, 24 February 2011 11:51 (fourteen years ago)

that subeena/woon track is so good, on a par with "night air" for me

lex pretend, Thursday, 24 February 2011 12:00 (fourteen years ago)

Dunno, it's got some nice noises on it but there's not really a song there - it's the least interesting thing either Subeena or Jamie Woon have been involved with.

Matt DC, Thursday, 24 February 2011 12:21 (fourteen years ago)

Really digging Lady Luck!

We make bouquets that fade immediately. (Turangalila), Thursday, 24 February 2011 18:24 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, the studio version of Lady Luck is sublime.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 24 February 2011 18:25 (fourteen years ago)

Out 11 April. Here's the tracklist:

1. Night Air
2. Street
3. Lady Luck
4. Shoulda
5. Middle
6. Spirits
7. Echoes
8. Spiral
9. Tmrw
10. Secondbreath
11. Gravity
12. Waterfront

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 00:27 (fourteen years ago)

Cover's nice too

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_ePwDySjVdyo/TXV5si9XMvI/AAAAAAAAAhM/wN2zQDQIP_w/mirrorwriting.jpg

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 00:36 (fourteen years ago)

Dunno, it's got some nice noises on it but there's not really a song there - it's the least interesting thing either Subeena or Jamie Woon have been involved with.

― Matt DC, Thursday, February 24, 2011 12:21 PM (1 week ago)

kindof feel like this is just objectively wrong hmm

plax (ico), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 00:42 (fourteen years ago)

this guy still makes me feel a little guilty for liking him. I think it's the voice - it's like he's two steps away from turning into Jamie Cullum.

Roz, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 08:10 (fourteen years ago)

That's what I like about him though - this very conventional voice put to unconventional ends, both lyrically and sonically.

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 10:07 (fourteen years ago)

hes kindof done the ebtg in that his new sound is like a remix someone did once.

plax (ico), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 10:57 (fourteen years ago)

Good comparison - a whole new sound extrapolated from the Burial mix of Wayfaring Stranger.

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 10:59 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, both have that mary poppins travel bag thing where what looked like one tune on the outside actually contained a whole house of stuff.

Tim F, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 11:04 (fourteen years ago)

I used to have fantasies about that when I heard a great remix - wow, imagine if this artist sounded like that all the time. It so rarely happens.

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 11:11 (fourteen years ago)

after a week of not really bothering to listen to it i have decided that ladyluck is like a massive nosedive in quality from night air and my expectations have kindof nosedived along w/ it.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 01:00 (fourteen years ago)

the phaggy melodrama and noir atmosphere have disappeared, sounds a *bit* like some nu british soul bs that turns up on jools holland.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 01:01 (fourteen years ago)

I haven't heard it yet but 'nu british soul bs' made me think of James Blake. This is better than the James Blake, right?

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 03:06 (fourteen years ago)

yeah he actually sings

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 16 March 2011 03:06 (fourteen years ago)

kind of agree w/plax re "lady luck" which i haven't gone back to very much. def better than james blake though.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 08:45 (fourteen years ago)

Can't speak for the whole album but the other leaked tunes are more "Night Air" than "Lady Luck" (which I like, though maybe because it reminds me of an Idol performance in some ways, so I can sorta see why haters gon hate).

Tim F, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 10:19 (fourteen years ago)

i do like "lady luck", it's just...okay

lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 10:21 (fourteen years ago)

obv not the stone cold stunner that "night air" was.

Tim F, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 10:24 (fourteen years ago)

mmm yeah it's the difference between hearing a song and being blwon away and having to listen to it 5 times a day for a month, and hearing a song and enjoying it and then forgetting it exists until someone bumps this thread

lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 10:28 (fourteen years ago)

^^

plax (ico), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 12:47 (fourteen years ago)

like i cant help but feel like im only giving ladyluck the time of day bc of the goodwill generated by night air

plax (ico), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 12:48 (fourteen years ago)

seeing this dude live in 45 min. or so

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

Tell him we said hi

StanM, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

so jamie's show was pretty good. he's got KILLER pipes when he lets them show but his touring band's not doing him many favors. the songs that worked best stripped back all rock/pop arrangements for a dubby sound w/ lots of bass and room for his voice to float around in. played "night air" and maybe 6 other tunes from the album.

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 21:10 (fourteen years ago)

Think it just leaked.

I'm either going to be elated or crazy disappointed. I'm probably expecting too much from this record anyway, but it's the first thing I've been honestly excited about hearing this year.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 02:46 (fourteen years ago)

got this today-- it's great three tracks in!

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 14:06 (fourteen years ago)

okay & that's before track 4 "Shoulda" pretty much took a sledgehammer to everything else in his catalog. AMAZINGGGG

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 14:15 (fourteen years ago)

Johnny i can't see you being disappointed, this album rules

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:47 (fourteen years ago)

Oh yeah, I've listened to it a couple times through since last night and I think it's fantastic.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 17:07 (fourteen years ago)

Think it just leaked.

i can't find any evidence of this

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 17:24 (fourteen years ago)

link i found was on uploadbox via filestube (can't believe those are things)

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 17:25 (fourteen years ago)

It's in m4a at 128, so hardly idea. But it will do for a few weeks.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 17:26 (fourteen years ago)

idea=ideal

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 17:26 (fourteen years ago)

link i found was on uploadbox via filestube (can't believe those are things)

haha i downloaded that and i think it was fake? the album wasn't in it anyway

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 17:31 (fourteen years ago)

"uploaded 2011-02-15"

StanM, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 17:31 (fourteen years ago)

There's a 5-track sampler on Spotify though: http://open.spotify.com/album/5YgMGbzIfjwwHw7R4g3iZz

StanM, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

If that isn't it, I apologize - I don't have Spotify myself, just found that link

StanM, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 17:34 (fourteen years ago)

ah, good to know, it's still downloading here. over 700 people fooled so far!

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 17:34 (fourteen years ago)

lex you should be able to get a promo of this, right? i mean i did sooo

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 17:34 (fourteen years ago)

fucking webmail! can never get it to work so i'll just say thanks johnny here

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 17:35 (fourteen years ago)

"should"

some PRs are more into sending promos than others

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 17:35 (fourteen years ago)

People really download those things? I tend to assume they're boxes full of viruses and if you get an album with it it's a bonus.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 17:36 (fourteen years ago)

they are usually albums matt

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 17:37 (fourteen years ago)

filestube is usually pretty solid

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 17:38 (fourteen years ago)

It's out there now.

Night Air and Lady Luck are pretty accurate tasters for the album, imho. Immaculately produced, not totally blown away though. Need more listens. Reminded me more of James Blake than I had expected on first listen (i.e. ultimately innocent soul stylings but with somewhat dangerous production).

StanM, Saturday, 26 March 2011 23:14 (fourteen years ago)

lol

'somewhat dangerous production'

jimitheexploder, Saturday, 26 March 2011 23:37 (fourteen years ago)

i just got the Blake album & played Woon a week ago or so, i think the Blake album has both higher highs & lower lows, if that makes sense

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Saturday, 26 March 2011 23:39 (fourteen years ago)

Don't get the comparison at all tbh. There's not a single song on the James Blake album that doesn't make me want to punch a baby, whereas the Woon album is close to flawless.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 27 March 2011 01:11 (fourteen years ago)

punching babies not cool; you should settle for punching blake's baby face

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Sunday, 27 March 2011 02:46 (fourteen years ago)

If I had a baby and it had Blake's face I'd punch it, that wouldn't be natural.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_4AxzvhCPY

There is no way he has got a baby face.

Student Face more like.

I wouldn't compare the two mind, I mean if you throw Woon and Blake together you may as well throw in Katy B. It just doesn't work yeah they all have a bass thing going on beu they all come at it diffrently. Katy B big girl next door pop anthems, Woon electronic indie/soul song writer material, Blake looped-out electronic freakery. Woon and Blake use a simular pallet, Blake sings but doesn't try to make songs, woon has been attempting to make songs for ages as some London free indie mic spot monkey untill he found the bass scene. Nowt wrong with any aproach really but they all have a difference no point comparing them to me at least. They do diffrent things.

jimitheexploder, Sunday, 27 March 2011 02:56 (fourteen years ago)

Loving this album.

Melissa W, Sunday, 27 March 2011 09:32 (fourteen years ago)

Where are we finding this? Usual sources not turning anything up...

Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill The Radio Star (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 27 March 2011 19:05 (fourteen years ago)

mailed u

wavy g. wavegarten (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 March 2011 19:07 (fourteen years ago)

me2

they reminisce over dayo (D-40), Sunday, 27 March 2011 19:47 (fourteen years ago)

do u guys not have google toolbars?

flopson, Sunday, 27 March 2011 19:50 (fourteen years ago)

if you google mirorrwriting (with the typo) you shld find it...

just sayin, Sunday, 27 March 2011 19:51 (fourteen years ago)

oh. i didn't know it was a typo. perhaps that is why. I was searching "mirrorwriting" and "jamie woon"

Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill The Radio Star (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 27 March 2011 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

mirrorwritting too

StanM, Sunday, 27 March 2011 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

ha i obv had no idea about the misspell

wavy g. wavegarten (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 27 March 2011 20:00 (fourteen years ago)

idgi re: google toolbars

they reminisce over dayo (D-40), Sunday, 27 March 2011 20:30 (fourteen years ago)

I really like this album and the track that's standing out to me the most is the one that has the line 'you can try on anything for free'. I've been playing it while i clean and unpack so I haven't really followed song titles yet.

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 27 March 2011 21:14 (fourteen years ago)

Oooh I like this album.

We make bouquets that fade immediately. (Turangalila), Sunday, 27 March 2011 21:17 (fourteen years ago)

oh this is EXTREMELY impressive!

jed_, Sunday, 27 March 2011 21:58 (fourteen years ago)

(so far, track 6)

jed_, Sunday, 27 March 2011 21:58 (fourteen years ago)

The leak is only 128k right?

Number None, Sunday, 27 March 2011 21:59 (fourteen years ago)

my hangover's giving this the thumbs up so far

'middle' in partic is different gravy

r|t|c, Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:03 (fourteen years ago)

do u guys like ladyluck tho?

plax (ico), Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:05 (fourteen years ago)

I do.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:08 (fourteen years ago)

plax, i likr it but it sounds totally amazing as part of the album

jed_, Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:09 (fourteen years ago)

likr like

jed_, Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:09 (fourteen years ago)

hmm

plax (ico), Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:10 (fourteen years ago)

oh you

jed_, Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:11 (fourteen years ago)

jesus the vocal on gravity is just beautiful. i find this genuinely exciting.

jed_, Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:17 (fourteen years ago)

Really, until further notice, this is my favorite album of the year.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:20 (fourteen years ago)

The leak is only 128k right?

Number None, Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:22 (fourteen years ago)

not a dud on it. really accomplished song writing. great vocals & production. wow!

jed_, Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:23 (fourteen years ago)

Really, until further notice, this is my favorite album of the year.

Like, I get as excited listening to this as I did by Portishead's Third and that remained my favorite album for all of 2008.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:27 (fourteen years ago)

i really enjoyed this when i listened to it. hangovers help, yes

lex pretend, Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:29 (fourteen years ago)

I'm intrigued and all but the one thing nobody's said much on the thread is...exactly who is this guy? Meaning did "Night Air" come out of nowhere or had he already been building a rep?

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:31 (fourteen years ago)

he was a guardian reader folk singer i think, his version of wayfaring stranger got a big hyped burial remix around the time of the first burial album and then this collab

plax (ico), Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:33 (fourteen years ago)

From what I gather, he'd been toiling in obscurity for a couple years before Burial agreed to work with him on "Night Air" and then he went FULL AWESOME and now can't be stopped.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:33 (fourteen years ago)

i'd heard of him a while before that, just as a random soul singer about town doing vox on uk urban underground tunes (like fatima, ahu etc) - this actually remains one of his finest tracks imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dw1PTtu2dE

lex pretend, Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:34 (fourteen years ago)

idk if i'd call it toiling in obscurity, as with katy b i think he always meant to build up to this - what both of them did for a few years prior to their breakthrough was more like build up a portfolio

lex pretend, Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:35 (fourteen years ago)

Your ear is closer to the ground in that sector than a lot of us, though. I had no idea who he was until about six months ago.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:37 (fourteen years ago)

i actually had read about him in the guardian but w/e

plax (ico), Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:39 (fourteen years ago)

dude just has an awesome, distinct voice & some solid songwriting chops

sometimes i get kind of worried the song is gonna veer into barely-there territory but he'll save it w/ a little melodic flourish

they reminisce over dayo (D-40), Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:53 (fourteen years ago)

i've been aware of him since 'wayfaring stranger' a few years ago (although i assumed it was part of an album, not just a single). at the time i figured he was the next jamie cullum or whatever, who was lucky or had enough $ to get a burial remix.

adult music person (Jordan), Sunday, 27 March 2011 23:07 (fourteen years ago)

immaculate album but i must reiterate i strongly feel 'middle' is the track that resolves the whole

gonna give it a day and hope no one else dares in the meantime in case i clown myself with the proclamation i was just about to make

r|t|c, Sunday, 27 March 2011 23:23 (fourteen years ago)

is Middle the last track? I sort my library by date added so i generally listen to albums 'backwards' since the last track is the most recently imported. I always hear Middle first. Don't love it but it don't mind it either.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 28 March 2011 00:34 (fourteen years ago)

No, middle is the fifth track - scroll up in this thread about two weeks for the tracklist (just above tge cover artwork)

StanM, Monday, 28 March 2011 00:44 (fourteen years ago)

tge -> the

StanM, Monday, 28 March 2011 00:44 (fourteen years ago)

when's the official release date for this?

who is john nult? (dayo), Monday, 28 March 2011 01:36 (fourteen years ago)

April 11th I think.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 28 March 2011 01:38 (fourteen years ago)

dude was supposed to play toronto w/ mt. kimbie on friday but dropped out at the last minute. i'm not sure about why he couldn't make it, but it's a shame because i was really looking forward to hearing what he's like live.

borntohula, Monday, 28 March 2011 04:13 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, Montreal was supposed to be last night but he bailed. Between that and the cancelled Kingdom/Girl Unit/Bok Bok gig Friday I am less than pleased.

Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill The Radio Star (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 28 March 2011 04:25 (fourteen years ago)

ok so this is much better than I expected it to be - still not convinced by "lady luck" but anyone who's heard the early acoustic versions of "spiral" and "gravity" knows that these versions are so much improved with the electronic flourishes. amazing sound.

(srsly, "Gravity" = sexxx)

Roz, Monday, 28 March 2011 06:59 (fourteen years ago)

It's growing on me and I apologise to James Blake and Jamie Woon for comparing them with each other (even though I still get the same feeling from their albums).

StanM, Monday, 28 March 2011 07:17 (fourteen years ago)

i've still never knowingly heard any james blake (i'm sure lex understands this - my reluctance basically stems from the fact that blake shares the same name as one of our least favourite american tennis players).

Roz, Monday, 28 March 2011 07:57 (fourteen years ago)

it opened the door for the "as overrated as his tennis namesake" line for me! and the observation that james blake (producer)'s rise to prominence coincided exactly with james blake (tennis player) falling out of the top 100...

lex pretend, Monday, 28 March 2011 09:31 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not sure if I like this... the beats and textures I love but something about it sounding like Phil Collins at his most new-agey is off-putting for me.

Moka, Monday, 28 March 2011 10:18 (fourteen years ago)

^^It's all about the beats/texture for me - one of the reasons i wasn't so looking forward to this initially was due to hearing his earlier stuff, some of which which were sub-Buckley at best. The production totally redeems the corniness imo.

Roz, Monday, 28 March 2011 11:05 (fourteen years ago)

the cancelled Kingdom/Girl Unit/Bok Bok gig Friday

coulda told you this was coming due to Austin cancellations a couple weeks ago :/

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Monday, 28 March 2011 13:44 (fourteen years ago)

Oh, I mean. I knew it got cancelled a couple of weeks ago. I just meant that once Night Slugs got visa-issue cancelled, Woon was my backup plan for the weekend.

Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill The Radio Star (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 28 March 2011 15:49 (fourteen years ago)

ahhh gotcha

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Monday, 28 March 2011 15:50 (fourteen years ago)

"Middle" is fantastic.

We make bouquets that fade immediately. (Turangalila), Monday, 28 March 2011 16:22 (fourteen years ago)

"lady luck" is much better in album context

lex pretend, Monday, 28 March 2011 19:19 (fourteen years ago)

Yes

We make bouquets that fade immediately. (Turangalila), Monday, 28 March 2011 19:35 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZfDbEQAfOY

Old version of 'Spirits', which is kind of awesome. Curious if the live show leans more towards this kind of thing or if the backing tracks just get played over the soundsystem.

Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill The Radio Star (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 28 March 2011 20:29 (fourteen years ago)

he has a full live band, if that helps?

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Monday, 28 March 2011 20:43 (fourteen years ago)

something about it sounding like Phil Collins at his most new-agey

finally someone is selling this thing

plax (ico), Monday, 28 March 2011 21:40 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not sure I'm feeling this. It definitely has its moments, 'Night Air' obviously, 'Middle' and 'Spirits' but as a whole it feels kinda tepid and gloopy. The production is nice enough (although the "tasteful dubstep wobble" can fuck off now, especially when paired with acoustic guitar) but I'm not sure the songwriting is really consistent throughout.

Biggest problem is his voice though - he sings almost everything in the same way. Which is forgiveable in technically limited voices but Jamie can sing. Maybe "being able to sing" isn't enough if you don't really have much conception of phrasing or dynamics, but I'd like him to reach for something more than "pleasant" most of the time. No tension or drama. It's not even that he's 'tasteful', I listened to Maxwell immediately afterwards and it sounded elemental, and that's not JUST because Maxwell is a superior singer technically, he knows how to phrase and deliver a lyric for emotional impact, and Jamie Woon on this evidence doesn't.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 09:21 (fourteen years ago)

comparing him with maxwell is stacking the deck a bit

they reminisce over dayo (D-40), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 12:08 (fourteen years ago)

not that i might not end up agreeing overall

they reminisce over dayo (D-40), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 12:09 (fourteen years ago)

comparing him with maxwell is stacking the deck a bit

Yeah I think I've acknowledged that in saying that Maxwell is obviously a much better vocalist technically (and most vocalists would suffer in comparison) but my issue isn't with the quality of Jamie's voice but the use he puts it to - like I said phrasing and dynamics.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 12:20 (fourteen years ago)

haha i think my point remains

they reminisce over dayo (D-40), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 12:21 (fourteen years ago)

Okay he'd suffer in comparison to a Ne-Yo or someone as well. I'm not saying "the problem is that he's not as good as Maxwell", I'm saying "on this evidence the problem is that his voice has limited emotional range".

Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 12:24 (fourteen years ago)

That's what I like about Woon's singing - he avoids hollerholler emoting and goes for a beguilingly streamlined take. This simple legibility is part of the reason why he rings through the slightly muffled and distorted backing so well.

Jedmond, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 12:48 (fourteen years ago)

ne-yo and maxwell are hardly hollerers!

lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 12:49 (fourteen years ago)

True, that was carried over from a discussion I was just having in real life.

Jedmond, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 12:53 (fourteen years ago)

Maxwell doesn't holler, he's fusspot instead - not that I don't love him.

Jedmond, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 12:56 (fourteen years ago)

It's not about hollering, it's about phrasing. It really feels like Jamie Woon phrases most of what he sings in basically the same way, and as a result he feels weirdly slippery and insubstantial as a vocal presence.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 15:45 (fourteen years ago)

yeah he reminds me of a lot of trip-hop vocalists in that respect

lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 15:51 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i agree that his phrasing is a huge part of his appeal. i keep getting hung up on how he says 'lady luck,'it's just so great.

borntohula, Saturday, 2 April 2011 15:56 (fourteen years ago)

Enjoying this somewhat, but not feeling the love everyone else seems to be. Am disappointed. Wanted an album of 'Night Air's and 'Wayfaring Strsnger's.

You're fucking fired and you know jack shit about horses (James Morrison), Monday, 4 April 2011 00:18 (fourteen years ago)

i like this album after a few spins but yeah, "night air" by far the best thing on here

hey ilxor, thanks for contributing, glad you stopped by (ilxor), Monday, 4 April 2011 15:02 (fourteen years ago)

There's an album called Channel Pressure by Joel Ford and Daniel Lopatin coming out that is going to knock all this fey, blue eyed R&B, blubstep into a cocked hat.

Chap With Wings... Five Rounds Rapid (Doran), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 10:18 (fourteen years ago)

This album made complete sense to me when I read about how much he loved Lewis Taylor. There's something very 90s about it.

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 10:26 (fourteen years ago)

ha i just listened to that. i prefer jamie woon!

xp re: ford & lopatin

lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 10:27 (fourteen years ago)

ford & lopatin, based on one listen, is kind of...like if junior boys dude sang over icy knifelike synths? i enjoyed it but for some reason it didn't grab me and make me pay attention like those did

lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 10:28 (fourteen years ago)

That description makes me want to hear it!

I've not felt the urge to go back to this at all. Wish he'd aspire to something other than a kind of lukewarm niceness and the production choices exacerbate that rather than compensating for it.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 11:34 (fourteen years ago)

i can't get into this even a little bit...but i found night air sort of annoying and histrionic also.

Packie Bonner (Local Garda), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 11:41 (fourteen years ago)

Have you heard Games/Ford & Lopatin's "Strawberry Skies" Lex? It has Laurel Halo on vocals, and I think you'll prefer her to whoever sings on this album.

Jedmond, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 11:55 (fourteen years ago)

i discovered "strawberry skies" in the ILM EOY poll - i love it!

lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 11:59 (fourteen years ago)

Glad to hear, the anthemic surge 2 minutes in is fantastic. Considering that track's far more worked out song structure I have a sneaky suspicion Halo did more than just sing - we need a Halo, Ford & Lopatin album stat.

Jedmond, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 12:09 (fourteen years ago)

the hud mo mix of lady luck sounds like idm timberlake

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 12:43 (fourteen years ago)

Haven't heard Mirrorwriting yet, but I know I'm looking forward to Ford & Lopatin (aka Games) a LOT. Doran and others, did you hear the album by VHS Head from last year?

Evil Eau (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 13:33 (fourteen years ago)

The guy I most associate Jamie Woon with is Ben Westbeech though - they both even look kinda similar.

Evil Eau (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 13:35 (fourteen years ago)

i fucking love the hudson mohawke remix of "lady luck" - i'm not even a huge hudmo fan but his LAYER CRASHING WAVES OF EVERYTHING OVER EVERYTHING tactic works so well here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0JBXfSbvZM

lex pretend, Monday, 18 April 2011 19:51 (fourteen years ago)

I like me the sound of that.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 April 2011 19:52 (fourteen years ago)

the album itself gets the mood spot on but the stickable songwriting stuff less so

lex pretend, Monday, 18 April 2011 19:52 (fourteen years ago)

"middle" is my shit

johnny crunch, Monday, 18 April 2011 19:56 (fourteen years ago)

yeah "middle" is definitely the best song on the alb i hadn't heard before

lex pretend, Monday, 18 April 2011 20:03 (fourteen years ago)

i went back to the hudmo lp recently after enjoying so many of his remixes. it's still hilariously unlistenable, except for a few amazing tracks ("fuse" is still a perfect track). i bet his next record is going to be killer.

adult music person (Jordan), Monday, 18 April 2011 20:19 (fourteen years ago)

i think i love Gravity, Waterfront and Street just as much as Night Air. I'm still extremely keen on this record!

jed_, Monday, 18 April 2011 21:33 (fourteen years ago)

this record is absolutely gorgeous

ciderpress, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 01:28 (fourteen years ago)

this album is terrible. i loved night air, but the rest sounded like jason mraz (never actually heard this guy, but just assuming) or some other fratboy singer songwriter w/electronic backings. or like jamiroquai or early robin thicke.

jaxon, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 01:39 (fourteen years ago)

^ This is what I thought even way back when everyone was digging Night Air...but this week I gave the album a chance and now I'm listening to it over and over again. He's working in a Radio 1-friendly vein that I am predisposed to dislike but the lush production and I guess the subtle songwriting manages to transcend easy "James Blunt heard the kids like dubstep" snark.

Lidl Monsters (seandalai), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 01:57 (fourteen years ago)

Lady Luck and Gravity are my jams fwiw.

Lidl Monsters (seandalai), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 01:57 (fourteen years ago)

cant understand not liking 'night air'

geeks, dweebs, nerds & lames (D-40), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 04:30 (fourteen years ago)

Got to admit I found this a big disappointment...not that it's a terrible album more the fact that it's influences(namely the 1st Lewis Taylor album) are so admirable and this has none of it's lysergic blurring of the edges...he sounds more like a some bland r&b singer(the kind that sings over some shit jungle DJ in a club in Slough)...it needed to have a much more out there production and it kind of reeks of record company interference to make it more acceptable to a dubstep?? audience...having said that the final couple of tracks are more interesting than the rest of the album...Shame

sonnyboy, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 04:59 (fourteen years ago)

i think that 'reeks of record company interference to make it more acceptable to a dubstep?? audience' sounds like total bull imo fwiw ymmv

geeks, dweebs, nerds & lames (D-40), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 05:30 (fourteen years ago)

I'd never tell someone they should like an album when they don't want to (well, maybe I would say that as a joke), but some of the complaints in here are really unjustified and flimsy.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 05:32 (fourteen years ago)

Perhaps but it sounds so ordinary...really wanted it to be better

sonnyboy, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 05:36 (fourteen years ago)

this album is terrible. i loved night air, but the rest sounded like jason mraz (never actually heard this guy, but just assuming) or some other fratboy singer songwriter w/electronic backings. or like jamiroquai or early robin thicke.

Come on, he may be many things but fratboy, really? If anything he comes over as irritatingly nice and eager to please.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 08:58 (fourteen years ago)

he sounds more like a some bland r&b singer

such an alarm bell whenever people wheel this criticism out

lex pretend, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 09:10 (fourteen years ago)

He pretty much does fit most definitions of blandness as I understand them.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 09:14 (fourteen years ago)

Like I know full well that "bland" is the laziest possible criticism you can level at something but sometimes it's actually true.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 09:20 (fourteen years ago)

it's putting "bland" and "r&b" in such close proximity to each other that's the warning sign, can't even count how many times i've seen those automatically linked together. when was the last time you saw anyone dismissed as "just a bland rock singer" or "just a bland blues singer" or whatever?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 09:24 (fourteen years ago)

people who write the phrase "bland r&b singer" probably hated craig david too

lex pretend, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 09:24 (fourteen years ago)

People talk about a certain type of post-Oasis rock band being bland all the time, it's usually linked with "stodgy".

Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 09:26 (fourteen years ago)

I think Sonnyboy's overall criticism is wrongheaded (although I've never been to a shit jungle night in Slough) but I don't think he's "automatically" linking R&B and blandness at all.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 09:28 (fourteen years ago)

when was the last time you saw anyone dismissed as "just a bland rock singer" or "just a bland blues singer" or whatever?

quite a lot really...

Evil Eau (dog latin), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 10:12 (fourteen years ago)

"bland pop singer" About 5,150 results (0.28 seconds)
"bland r&b singer" -bobby About 1,630 results (0.19 seconds)
"bland folk singer" About 96 results (0.27 seconds)
"bland rock singer" 8 results (0.12 seconds)
"bland blues singer -bobby" Google says 5 results but they're all false positives.

Lidl Monsters (seandalai), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:45 (fourteen years ago)

"bland rock band" About 7,110 results

Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:55 (fourteen years ago)

"bland r&b" About 4,910 results (0.14 seconds)

dayo, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 12:00 (fourteen years ago)

"bland pop" About 41,900 results (0.28 seconds)

dayo, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 12:01 (fourteen years ago)

"bland pop group"/"pop group" = 0.00098
"bland pop singer"/"pop singer" = 0.00066
"bland r&b singer"/"r&b singer" = 0.00059
"bland folk singer"/"folk singer" = 0.00003
"bland rock singer"/"rock singer" = 0.000001
"bland rock group"/"rock group" = 0.00007
"bland rock band"/"rock band" = 0.0001 (the denominator here is going to be skewed somewhat by the existence of Rock Band as a much-discussed thing)

Lidl Monsters (seandalai), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 12:09 (fourteen years ago)

"bland pop" About 41,900 results (0.28 seconds)
"bland pop *" About 2,540,000 results (0.43 seconds)

Google u r crazy.

Lidl Monsters (seandalai), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 12:10 (fourteen years ago)

"Bland indie" About 7,680 results (0.07 seconds)

I think it's safe to say this is not a criticism that's uniquely and disproportionately imed at R&B.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 12:13 (fourteen years ago)

IIRC the great bland wars on ILM were w/r/t Kate Bush's Aerial.

Tim F, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 12:30 (fourteen years ago)

"bland r&b *"About 19,200 results (0.15 seconds)

"bland rock *" About 53,700 results (0.16 seconds)

dayo, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 12:35 (fourteen years ago)

of course standard caveats that a. there is probably more written about rock on the internet than r&B and b. lex probably pays much more attention to r&b criticism which leads to c. a disproportionate perception of "bland R&B" by the lex

dayo, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 12:36 (fourteen years ago)

jesus i'm sorry i brought this up at all JUST FORGET ABOUT IT OKAY

lex pretend, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 12:41 (fourteen years ago)

Sorry for causing a kerfuffle...the long and short of it is I wanted to like this album...didn't very much... He has a voice he can make wobble...thanks...goodnight...

sonnyboy, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 13:20 (fourteen years ago)

Sorry just wanted to clarify that IN NO WAY do i link r&b with bland...The reason i was so dismissive was that best r&b can be so fucking trannsformative...Off The Wall period MJ...Instant Vintage Saadiq...Alicia Keys on "You don't know my name"...I know not cutting edge but just so great...

sonnyboy, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 22:29 (fourteen years ago)

A point that may be too obvious to mention: within every genre there is music that can be described as "bland", music that studiously avoids taking risks, music that retreads what we've heard a hundred times before. The mini-debate above is really about whether some genres tend to be described as "bland" more frequently than other genres, which might show something about stereotypes associated with, say, r&b or pop. I tried to take the Google approach a bit further but I gave up as I don't think Google is fit for this use (see "Google u r crazy").

Though it's given me an idea for an experiment I might run...

Lidl Monsters (seandalai), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 23:01 (fourteen years ago)

Sorry for causing a kerfuffle...the long and short of it is I wanted to like this album...didn't very much

This. I think he's got the ability to do an amazing album, but this just disappointed.

You're fucking fired and you know jack shit about horses (James Morrison), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 02:00 (fourteen years ago)

i still quite like this, but im not passionate enough about it to mount a stirring defense really

geeks, dweebs, nerds & lames (D-40), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 02:55 (fourteen years ago)

It's probably still my favorite album of the year so far.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 03:02 (fourteen years ago)

really liked 'night air', really liked the fragile, veiled menace in his voice. haven't heard anything on the album that approaches that yet, I'll have to give it a few more gos.

br8080 (dayo), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 04:29 (fourteen years ago)

I really couldn't get into this, I can't pin point why either. It just doesn't stir any feelings what so ever in either direction good or bad. Its like it doesn't exist lol. Night Air is the best on it at the moment and I still like the Ramadanman remix a load better. Maybe its a creeper...

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 07:53 (fourteen years ago)

Lady Luck live video in a radio session + some other tracks in audio: http://www.stubru.be/media/herbeleefjamiewoonindelivingroom

StanM, Sunday, 8 May 2011 13:56 (fourteen years ago)

three months pass...

Someone please remind me to try speeding up "Night Air" so that it sounds like an old italo record.

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Friday, 26 August 2011 08:56 (fourteen years ago)

I heard a terrific straight house mix of Lady Luck last month, but it doesn't appear to be any of the ones that are knocking around on the internet.

Matt DC, Friday, 26 August 2011 10:19 (fourteen years ago)

i really like the hudmo remix of "lady luck"

lex pretend, Friday, 26 August 2011 10:25 (fourteen years ago)

oh i said that a few months ago lol

lex pretend, Friday, 26 August 2011 10:26 (fourteen years ago)

I've had no inclination to go back to the album since I first heard it hungover to death on the slowest busiest train from Brighton to London at about 6.30am with no sleep. Somehow these associations linger. I really love Night Air - I love the little "Thriller"-style bassline that comes in right towards the end.

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Friday, 26 August 2011 10:33 (fourteen years ago)

btw he's playing live in Katowice right now and it's transmitted by Polish Radio 3. press "Słuchaj" in the upper right corner: http://www.polskieradio.pl/9/29/Artykul/425639,Koncert-Jamiego-Woona-w-Trojce

V79, Sunday, 28 August 2011 18:12 (fourteen years ago)

three years pass...

So did this cat just fall off the face of the earth or ??

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:27 (eleven years ago)

I think he's been doing some production work but haven't heard a peep from him solo-wise.

uxorious gazumping (monotony), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 00:40 (eleven years ago)

that's strange... only this evening, i decided to dig out 'night air' for the first time since it came out and wondered the same as JF

Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 01:41 (eleven years ago)

I liked the song he did with Banks, but that's all I've heard him do since his own lp.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 01:46 (eleven years ago)

He was on the Disclosure album!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxD8HS5shIU

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:11 (eleven years ago)

yeah that's actually my personal fav from the disclosure album tbh

uxorious gazumping (monotony), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:43 (eleven years ago)

Here's where I admit I never spent a ton of time with that Disclosure lp.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 20:50 (eleven years ago)

So did this cat just fall off the face of the earth or ??

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 21:27 Bookmark

The Lewis Taylor influence is v obvious across the span of the album.

― I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 12:38 Bookmark

r|t|c, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:03 (eleven years ago)

extending that analogy would make banks aaliyah tho so uh

r|t|c, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:09 (eleven years ago)

eight months pass...

https://soundcloud.com/woon/sharpness

New single prod. by Robin Hannibal from Quadron, it's so lovely and smooth, love it

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 6 August 2015 17:51 (ten years ago)

YES

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 August 2015 17:53 (ten years ago)

very nice!

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Thursday, 6 August 2015 18:00 (ten years ago)

tip-toed stevie wonder thing suits him

ogmor, Thursday, 6 August 2015 18:03 (ten years ago)

ah i feared he'd gone forever. great news!

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Thursday, 6 August 2015 18:08 (ten years ago)

LOVE IT!

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Thursday, 6 August 2015 18:10 (ten years ago)

kind of a Bobby Caldwell vibe

lil urbane (Jordan), Thursday, 6 August 2015 18:12 (ten years ago)

two months pass...

incredible performance imo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J0CjQjjy24

J0rdan S., Saturday, 17 October 2015 06:47 (ten years ago)

Indeed. That's what i call a groove. This guy has more soul in his voice than stevie wonder.

it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 17 October 2015 17:30 (ten years ago)

<3 Jamie so much but that's....quite a statement!

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Sunday, 18 October 2015 16:13 (ten years ago)

LOVE that fast pause just before the 2 minute mark.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Sunday, 18 October 2015 16:17 (ten years ago)

New album is up on Spotify, haven't had the chance to check it out yet.

thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Saturday, 31 October 2015 21:03 (ten years ago)

it's good!

niels, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 08:01 (ten years ago)

This guy has more soul in his voice than stevie wonder.

ok lol.

been listening to this a lot though, it's nice. really like the live band sound, particularly because the arrangements are really meticulous and it sounds like they're emulating more of an electronic approach.

expertly crafted referential display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 16:14 (ten years ago)

two years pass...

Mirrorwriting still holds up better than most things from 2011, as I'm discovering tonight.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 7 January 2018 06:56 (eight years ago)

four years pass...

Mirrorwriting still holds up better than most things from 2011, as I'm discovering tonight.

this is still true in 2022.

great headphone album.

mark e, Sunday, 20 November 2022 20:18 (three years ago)

seven months pass...

Heard this on Martyn's Dekmantel mix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alvp8RWcj3M
https://iliantape.bandcamp.com/album/itlp16-music

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 15:15 (two years ago)

like that a lot

revisiting this performance of "sharpness" & it's still awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J0CjQjjy24

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 July 2023 16:14 (two years ago)

two years pass...

New album is great, especially the lovely ‘The Heart’s Mountains’.

Dan Worsley, Saturday, 11 October 2025 15:46 (three months ago)


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