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Select albums of the year 1990 - 2000
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1991 10
1994 9
1995 7
1997 7
1993 5
1990 4
1998 3
1992 2
1996 1
1999 1
2000 0


Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 21:52 (fourteen years ago)

For those who cant click @ work etc

1990 Albums

1. Pixies - Bossanova
2. N.Cave & bad seeds - The good son
3. Depeche mode - Violator
4. Ride - Nowhere
5. Jane's addiction - Ritual de lo habitual
6. A tribe called quest - People's instinctive travel of path and rhythm
7. Galaxie 500 - This is our music
8. N. Young & Crazy Horse - Ragged glory
9. Public Enemy - Fear of a black planet
10. Mazzy star - She hangs brightly
11. Dee-lite - World clique
12. Cocteau twins - Heaven or las vegas
13. Jungle brothers - Done by the forces of nature
14. Sined O'Connor - I do not want what I haven’t got
15. Chills - Submarine bells
16. Sonic youth - Goo
17. The fall - Extricate
18. Happy Mondays - Pills and thrills & bellyaches
19. Beloved - Happiness
20. Lou Reed & John Cale - Songs for drella
21. Robert Forster - Danger in the past
22. Electribe101 - Electribe memoirs
23. Was(not was) Are you okay?
24. Blue aeroplanes - Swagger
25. Sisters of mercy - Vision thing
26. Brian Eno & John Cale - Wrong way up
27. Breeders - Pod
28. Shamen - En-tact
29. Betty Boo - Boomania
30. LL Cool J - Mama said knock you out
31. The perfect disaster - Heaven scent
32. 3rd bass - The cactus/album
33. Slayer - Seasons in the abyss
34. Bass-o-matic - Set the controls for the heart of the bass
35. Living colour - Time's up
36. Tav falco's panther burns - Return of the blue panther
37. Van Morrison - Enlightement
38. Stereo mc's - Supernatural
39. A certain ratio - MCR
40. Cramps - Stay sick
41. Crime and the city solution - Paradise discotheque
42. Monster ace - Take a look around
43. X-clan.to the east - Backwards
44. Fatima mansions - Viva dead ponies
45. Thin white rope - Sack full of silver
46. The la's - The la's
47. Megadeth - Rust in peace
48. Omar - There's nothing like this
49. House of love - House of love
50. Mission - Carved in sand

1991 Albums

1. Primal Scream - Screamadellca
2. R.E.M - Out of time
3. Public Enemy - Apocalypse ‘91 the enemy strikes back
4. Pixies - Trompe la monde
5. Massive attack - Blue lines
6. My bloody Valentine - Loveless
7. The Fall - Shiftwork
8. Teenage fanclub - Bandwagonesque
9. Ice-T - Origanal Gangster.
10. Intastella and the family of people - Same
11. Nirvana - Nevermind
12. Julian Cope - Peggy suicide
13. Definition of sound - Love and life
14. Neil Young - Weld
15. KLF - The white room
16. MC Buzz "b" - Words escape me
17. 808 state - Excel
18. PM Dawn - Of the heart of the soul etc...
19. World of twist - Quality street
20. Throwing muses - Real ramona
21. Blue aeroplanes - Beat songs
22. St Etienne - Foxbase alpha
23. Spacemen 3 - Recurring
24. Mercury rev - Yerself is steam
25. Dinosaur jr - Green mind
26. Wonderstuff - Never loved elvis
27. KMD - Mr hood
28. Prince - Diamonds and pearls
29. Bongwater - The power of pussy
30. Terminator x - In the valley
31. Chapter and the verse - Great western
32. Lenny Kravitz - Mama said
33. Mock turtles - Two sides
34. Blur - Lleisure
35. Guns n' roses - Use your illusion 2
36. Kraftwerk - The mix
37. LFO - Frequencies
38. Thin white rope - The ruby sea
39. Ned's atomic dustbin - God fodder
40. Soul family sensation - New wave
41. Chapterhouse - Whirlpool
42. American music club - Everclear
43. Electronic - Same
44. Slowdive - Just for a day
45. Butthole surfers - Pioughd
46. Young disciples - Road to freedom
47. Jesus Jones - Doubt
48. Morrissey - Kill uncle
49. Springhouse - Land falls
50. Black radical mk2 - Undiluted

1992 albums

1. Stereo MC's - Connected
2. Morrissey - Your Arsenal
3. The Orb - Uf Orb
4. Rem - Automatic For The People
5. Sonic Youth - Dirty Geffin
6. The Disposable Heroes Of Hiphoprisy - Hypocrisy Is The Greatest Luxury
7. Julian Cope - Jehovahkill
8. Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds - Henry's Dream
9. Sugar - Copper Blue
10. Consolidated - Play More Music Nettwerk
11. Spiritualized - Lazer Guided Melodies Dedicated
12. Pj Harvey - Dry Too Pure
13. Arrested Development - 3 Years... Cooltempo
14. Denim - Back In Denim Boy's Own
15. Beastie Boys - Check Your Head Capitol
16. Pavement- Slanted And Enchanted Big Cat
17. The Shaman - Boss Drum One Little Indian
18. Brian Eno - Nerve Net Opal
19. Boo Radleys - Everything's Alright Forever Creation
20. Flaming Lips - Hit To Death In The Future Head Wea
21. Future Sound Of London - Accelerator Jumpin' & Pumpin
22. Carter Usm - 1992: The Love Album Chrysalis
23. Cypress Hill - Cypress Hill Columbia
24. Inner City - Praise Ten
25. Ride - Going Blank Again Creation
26. Meat Beat Manifesto - Satyricon Play It Again Sam
27. Lemonheads - It's A Shame About Ray East/West
28. Therapy? - Nurse A&M
29. Eric B & Rakim - Don't Sweat The Technique Mca
30. The Jesus And Mary Chain - Honey's Dead Wea
31. Levitation - Need For Not Rough Trade
32. Momus - Voyager Creation
33. Epmd - Business Never Personal Columbia
34. Mudhoney - Piece Of Cake Wea
35. Del Tha Funkee Homosapien - I Wish My Brother George Was Here Island
36. Gang Starr - Daily Operation Cooltempo
37. Tom Waits - Bone Machine Island
38. Fatima Mansions - Valhalla Avenue Radioactive
39. Babes In Toyland - Fontanelle South Ern
40. Rollins Band - The End Of Silence Imago
41. The Cure - Wish Flction
42. Body Count - Body Count Wea
43. Silverfish - Organ Fan Creation
44. Spectrum - Soul Kiss (Glide Divine) Silvertone
45. Sugar Bullet - Unrefined Virgin
46. Superchunk - No Pocky For Kitty City Slang
47. Various - Volume 4 Volume
48. The Tyrrel Corporation - North East Of Eden Cooltempo
49. The House Of Love - Babe Rainbow Fontana
50. Various Guerilla - Dub House Disco

1993 Albums

1. The Boo Radleys - Giant Steps
2. One Dove - Morning Dove White
3. Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works '85 - 92
4. Suede - Suede
5. Pj Harvy - Rid Of Me
6. The Auteurs - New Wave
7. Bjork - Debut
8. Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
9. Frank Black - Frank Black
10. Blur - Modern Life Is Rubbish
11. The Jerky Boys - The Jerky Boys
12. Nirvana - In Utero
13. Sabres Of Paradise - Sabersonic
14. Pet Shop Boys - Very
15. Orbital - Untitled
16. Sven Vath - Accident In Paradise
17. Suger - Beaster
18. Cypress Hill - Black Sunday
19. The Fall - The Infotainment Scan
20. Belly - Star
21. Divine Comedy - Liberation
22. Lemonheads - Come On Feel The Lemonheads
23. Saint Etienne - So Tough
24. New Order - Republic
25. U2 - Zooropa
26. James - Laid
27. The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride Ii The Pharcyde
28. Dinosaur Jr - Where You Been
29. Tindersticks - Tindersticks
30. The Goats - Tricks Of The Shade
31. Seefeel - Quique
32. Gallon Drunk -From The Heart Of Town
33. Therapy? - Nurse
34. Manic Street Preachers - Gold Against The Soul
35. Paul Weller - Wild Wood
36. The Wonder Stuff - Construction Time For The Modern Idiot
37. The Waterboys - Dream Harder
38. Bandulu - Guidance
39. Neil Young - Unplugged
40. Teenage Fanclub - Thirteen
41. Gigolo Aunts - Flippin' Out
42. Various - Judgement Night Ost
43. Ultramarine - United Kingdoms
44. Depeche Mode - Songs Of Faith And Devotion
45. The The - Dusk
46. Carter Usm - Post Historic Monsters
47. Trans-Global Underground - Dream Of 100 Nations
48. Mazzy Star - So Tonight That I Might See
49. Lloyd Cole - Bad Vibes
50. The Black Dog - Temple Of Transparent Balls

1994 Albums

1. Oasis - Definitely Maybe
2. Blur - Parklife
3. The Prodigy - Music For The Jilted Generation
4. Primal Scream - Give Out But Don't Give Up
5. Beastie Boys - Ill Communication
6. Nirvana - Unplugged In New York
7. Portishead - Dummy
8. Suede - Dog Man Star
9. Therapy? - Troublegum
10. Morrissey - Vauxhall & I
11. Massive Attack - Protection
12. Orbital - Snivilisation
13. Saint Etienne - Tiger Bay
14. Nick Cave - Let Love In
15. The Grid - Evolver
16. Manic Street Preachers - The Holy Bible
17. Pulp - His 'N' Hers
18. Nas - Illmatic
19. Neil Young And Crazy Horse - Sleeps With Angels
20. Sabres Of Paradise - Haunted Dancehall
21. The Auteurs - Now I'm A Cowboy
22. Echobelly - Everyone's Got One
23. The Jon Spencer Blues Explosion - Orange
24. Hole - Live Through This
25. Senser - The Exchange
26. Underworld - Dubnobasswithmyheadman
27. R.E.M. - Monster
28. Bandulu - Antimatters
29. Sugar - (F.U.E.L.)
30. Green Day - Dookie
31. The Black Crowes - Amorica
32. Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works Vol. Ii
33. Liz Phair - Whip-Smart
34. Soundclash Republic - The Birth Of Shiva Shanti
35. Various - Mo' Wax Headz
36. Johnny Cash - American Recordings
37. Depth Charge - Seven Deadly Venoms
38. Djs John Digweed & Sasha - Renasissance - The Mix Collection
39. Ride - Carnival Of Light
40. Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral
41. Jeff Buckley - Grace
42. Soundgarden - Superunknown
43. Full Moon Scientist - The Men In White Coats
44. Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
45. James - Wah-Wah
46. Frank Black - Teenager Of The Year
47. Plastikman - Musik
48. Shed Seven - Change Giver
49. Stereolab - Mars Audiac Quartet
50. Madder Rose - Panic On

1995 Albums

1. Pulp - Different Class
2. Oasis - (What's The Story)Morning Glory
3. Tricky - Maxinquaye
4. Radiohead - The Bends
5. Black Grape - It's Great When You're Straight... Yeah!
6. Supergrass - I Should Coco
7. Blur - The Great Escape
8. Raekwon The Chef - Only Built For Cuban Linx
9. Elastica - Elastica
10. Boo Radleys - Wake Up!
11. Chemical Brothers - Exit Planet Dust
12. The Stone Roses - Second Coming
13. Julian Cope - 20 Mothers
14. David Holmes - The Films Crap, Let's Slash The Seats
15. A Guy Called Gerald - Black Street Technology
16. Foo Fighters - Foo Fighters
17. The Charlatans - The Charlatans
18. Method Man - Tical
19. Paul Weller - Stanley Road
20. Leftfield - Leftism
21. Teenage Fanclub - Grand Prix
22. Various - Help!
23. The Verve - A Northern Soul
24. Cast - All Change
25. Pj Harvy - To Bring You My Love
26. Therapy? - Infernal Love
27. Goldie - Timeless
28. Stereolab - Refried Ectoplasm
29. The Flaming Lips - Clouds Taste Metallic
30. Urge Overkill - Exit The Dragon
31. Bjork - Post
32. Flying Saucer Attack - Further
33. The Cardigans - Life
34. Sleeper - Smart
35. Smashing Pumpkins - Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness
36. Genius - Liquid Swords
37. Gene - Olympian
38. Carl Craig - Landcruising
39. Tindersticks - Live At Bloomsbury
40. Spritualized - Pure Phase
41. Red Hot Chili Peppers - One Hot Minute
42. The Aphex Twin - I Care Because You Do
43. Royal Trux - Thank You
44. Mick Harvey - Intoxicated Man
45. The Amps - Pacer
46. Massive Attack Meets The Mad Professor - No Protection
47. Garbage - Garbage
48. Ballistic Brothers - London Hooligan Soul
49. Sonic Youth - Washing Machine
50. Whiteout - Bite It

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 21:53 (fourteen years ago)

Albums 1996

1. Manic street preachers - Everything must go
2. Orbital - In sides
3. Ash -1977
4. Suede - Coming up
5. Dodgy - Free peace sweet
6. Underworld - Second toughest in the infants
7. Julian Cope - Interpreter
8. Metalheads - Platinum breaks
9. The auteures - After murder park
10. DJ Jon Carter - Live at the social Vol 2
11. Boo radleys - C’mon kids
12. Denim - Denim on ice
13. Mazzy star - Among my swan
14. Super furry animals
15. Kula shaker - K
16. Stereolab - Emperor tomato ketchup
17. DJ shadow - Endtroducing
18. Various - Trainspotting OST
19. The aloof - Sinking
20. Shed seven - A maximum high
21. 60ft dolls - The big 3
22. Barry Adamson - Oedipus Schmoedipus
23. Space - Spiders
24. Nas - It was written
25. Sleeper - The it girl
26. Tortoise - Millions now living will never die
27. Ocean colour scene - Moseley shoals
28. Beck - Odelay
29. RL Burnside - A ass pocket of whiskey
30. The divine comedy - Casanova
31. Select Singles 1996
32. The Prodigy - Firestarter
33. Manic street cleaners - A design for life
34. Oasis - Don’t look back in anger
35. Kula shaker - Tattva
36. Underworld - Born slippy
37. Space - Female of the species
38. Mark Morrison - Return of the mack
39. Photec - The hidden camera
40. Ash - Goldfinger
41. Dodgy - Good enough
42. Supergrass - Going out
43. The fugees - Ready or not
44. Smashing pumpkins - 1979
45. Orbital - The box
46. Suede - Trash
47. Dr Octagon - Blue flowers
48. Fun lovin’ criminals - Scooby snacks
49. Chemicals & Noel - Setting sun
50. Spice Girls - Wannabe - I don’t believe it!!! :-((
51. NoWaySis - I’d like to teach the world to sing
52. Shed seven - Chasing rainbows
53. Ice T - I will stand
54. Tiger - Race
55. Black grape - England’s irie
56. Kenickie - Punka
57. Folk Implosion - Natural one
58. Charlatans - One to another
59. Gold blade - Black elvis
60. Super Furry Animals - The man don’t give a fuck
61. Intastella - The past (Somebody loves you)

Albums 1997

1. Radiohead – OK Computer
2. Spiritualized – Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space
3. Primal Scream – Vanishing Point
4. The Verve – Urban Hymns
5. Cornershop – When I Was Born For The 7th Time
6. Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds – The Boatman’s Call
7. Pavement – Brighten In The Corners
8. Prodigy – The Fat Of The Land
9. Blur – Blur
10. Etienne De Crecy – Super Discount
11. The Chemical Brothers – Dig Your Own Hole
12. Supergrass – In It For The Money
13. Stereolab – Dots And Loops
14. Oasis – Be Here Now
15. Edwin Collins I’m Not Following You
16. Roni Size Reprazent – New Forms
17. Bentley Rhythm Ace – Bentley Rhythm Ace
18. Travis – Good Feeling
19. Daft Punk – Homework
20. Teenage Fanclub – Songs From Northern Britain
21. David Holms – Let’s Get Killed
22. Wu-Tang Clan – Wu-Tang Forever
23. Super Furry Animals – Radiator
24. Death In Vegas – Dead Elvis
25. Salaryman – Salaryman
26. Various – Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas
27. Missy ‘Misdemeanour – Supa Dupa Fly
28. Eels – Beautiful Freak
29. Jimi Tenor – Intervision
30. The Charlatans – Tellin’ Stories

Albums 1998

1. Air – Moon Safari
2. Pulp – This Is Hardcore
3. Belle & Sebastian – The Boy With The Arab Strap
4. Gomez – Bring It On
5. Fatboy Slim – You’ve Come A Long Way Baby
6. Catatonia – International Velvet
7. Manic Street Preachers – This Is My Truth, Tell Me Yours
8. The Beta Band – The 3 EP’s
9. Lauryn Hill – The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill
10. Black Box Recorder – England Made Me
11. Michael Head – The Magical World Of The Strands
12. Elliot Smith – Either/Or
13. The Beastie Boys – Hello Nasty
14. Placebo – Without You I’m Nothing
15. Money Mark – Push The Button
16. Ash – Nu-Clear Sounds
17. The Delgados – Pelaton
18. Madonna – Ray Of Light
19. Fun Lovin’ Criminals – 100% Colombian
20. Jurassic 5 – Jurassic 5
21. Mercury Rev – Deserters Songs
22. Garbage – Version 2
23. Massive Attack – Mezzanine
24. Jon Spencer Blues Explosion – Acme
25. Canibus – Can-I-Bus
26. The Divine Comedy – Fin De Siecle
27. Moodymann – Mahogany Brown
28. Dario G – Sunmachine
29. Earl Brutus – Tonight You Are The Special One
30. Royal Trux – Accelerator

Albums 1999

1. Travis – The Man Who
2. The Chemical Brothers – Surrender
3. The Flaming Lips – The Soft Bulletin
4. Death In Vegas – The Contino Sessions
5. Shack – Hms Fable
6. Basement Jaxx – Remedy
7. Beck – Midnite Vultures
8. TLC – Fanmail
9. Super Furry Animals – Guerrilla
10. Belle & Sebastian – Tigermilk
11. Blur – 13
12. Leftfield – Rhythm And Stealth
13. Pavement – Twilight Terror
14. Suede – Head Music
15. Supergrass – Supergrass
16. Mogwai – Come On Die Young
17. Roots Manuva – Brand New Second Hand
18. Smog – Knock Knock
19. The Beta Band – The Beta Band
20. The Auters – How I Learned To Love The Boot Boys
21. Stereophonics – Performance And Cocktails
22. Gay Dad – Leisurenoise
23. Catatonia – Equally Blessed And Cursed
24. The Charlatans – Us And Us Only
25. Wheat – Hope And Adams
26. Add N To (X) – Avant Hard
27. Wilco - Summerteeth
28. Missy Elliot – Da Real World
29. Gomez – Liquid Skin
30. Handsome Boy Modelling School – So.. How’s Your Girl?
31. Other Mentions…
32. Campeg Velocet – Bon Chic Bon Genre
33. Mr President – Space Gate
34. Various – The Incredible Sound Of Jo Whiley
35. Mishka – Mishka
36. Shed Seven – Going For Gold – Best Of..

Albums 2000

1. Badly Drawn Boy – The Hour Of Bewilderbeast
2. Primal Scream – Xtrmntr
3. Granddaddy – The Sophtware Slump
4. Godspeed You Black Emperor
5. Coldplay – Parachutes
6. Radiohead – Kid A
7. Lambchop – Nixon
8. Eminem – The Marshall Mathers LP
9. …And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead – Madonna
10. Doves – Lost Souls
11. Queens Of The Stone Age – Rated R
12. Black Box Recorder – The Facts Of Life
13. Magnetic Fields – 69 Love Songs
14. David Holms – Bow Down To The Exit Sign
15. At The Drive In – Relationship Of Command
16. Kellies – Kaleidoscope
17. Bent – Programmed To Love
18. JJ72 – JJ72
19. Yo La Tengo – And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside Out
20. Shellac – 1000 Hurts
21. Deltron 3030 – Deltron 3030
22. The Delgados – The Great Eastern
23. Add N To [X] – Add Insult To Injury
24. Chris Morris – Blue Jam
25. Fatboy Slim – Halfway Between The Gutter And The Stars
26. Sigur Ros – Agaetis Byrjun
27. Kathryn Williams – Little Black Numbers
28. Various – Sound Of The Pirates [Mixes By Zed Bias]
29. Belle And Sebastian – Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like A Peasant
30. The RZA – Ghost Dog: The Way Of The Samurai OST

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 21:53 (fourteen years ago)

I dunno why but I think 1991 will win

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 21:55 (fourteen years ago)

hmmm 1996 list musta been fucked on the site as it lists some singles

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 21:57 (fourteen years ago)

1994 list has the most albums i know/like but 1995 has the most in the top 10, so 95 i guess

Rovi Wade (some dude), Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:03 (fourteen years ago)

1990 Albums

1. Pixies - Bossanova
2. N.Cave & bad seeds - The good son
3. Depeche mode - Violator
4. Ride - Nowhere
5. Jane's addiction - Ritual de lo habitual
6. A tribe called quest - People's instinctive travel of path and rhythm
7. Galaxie 500 - This is our music
8. N. Young & Crazy Horse - Ragged glory
9. Public Enemy - Fear of a black planet
10. Mazzy star - She hangs brightly
11. Dee-lite - World clique
12. Cocteau twins - Heaven or las vegas
13. Jungle brothers - Done by the forces of nature
14. Sined O'Connor - I do not want what I haven’t got

i will get behind this entire top 14, own them all, love them, not gonna read any further-- voting 1990

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:09 (fourteen years ago)

lists are too long, lost interest in middle of '92. so, voting '92.

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:11 (fourteen years ago)

Loveless and Bandwagonesque put 1991 over 1998 for me.

skip, Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:11 (fourteen years ago)

lol fuck ilxor already made that joke, my bad ilxor

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:12 (fourteen years ago)

like with Kerrang (and Raw Magazines) list(s) 1990 still feels like its the end of the 80s to me.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:12 (fourteen years ago)

1993 wins for the absolutely unmitigated staying power and influence of number one artist the boo radleys

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:14 (fourteen years ago)

1990 still feels like its the end of the 80s to me.

lots of distinctly '90s acts in that list, though-- ride, tribe, mazzy, deee-lite, sinead, etc. etc.

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:15 (fourteen years ago)

the whole list tho

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:16 (fourteen years ago)

you joke but Boo Radleys - Giant Steps Poll got more votes than John Coltrane - Giant Steps Poll (granted that's because ILM is awful, but still)

xpost

Rovi Wade (some dude), Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:16 (fourteen years ago)

select were all over the boo radleys back then

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:17 (fourteen years ago)

These are all good:

1991
1993
1995
1997
1998
2000

1990, 1996 and 1999 are quite poor. I'll go ahead and predict those 3 as the bottom 3 on the poll.

Moka, Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:20 (fourteen years ago)

I went with 93 because Giant Steps is still one of my favourite albums ever.

Select must have been the only magazine to really rate Denim On Ice in 96 which is great but it seems like that's the year they really lost their way featuring Ash, Kula Shaker, Dodgy and Space.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:54 (fourteen years ago)

1993 wins for the absolutely unmitigated staying power and influence of number one artist the boo radleys

I love you

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:55 (fourteen years ago)

9. Therapy? - Troublegum
18. Nas - Illmatic

fuck outta here, Select

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 3 March 2011 22:58 (fourteen years ago)

I agree 1993 gets all the props for the Boo Radleys. But the sheer might of 1994 reigns for me. Seems like 94 was a real game-changer as far as that decade went. Compare 93 to 94 and it feels like a complete reshuffle.

barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Thursday, 3 March 2011 23:02 (fourteen years ago)

more like "SELECT a random list of albums in arbitrary order"

rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 March 2011 23:03 (fourteen years ago)

why are there so many crappy "LOL @ British music: the Capperly Buxt-Twitington years" type threads now

F♯ A♯, Red♯ Blue♯ (Lamp), Thursday, 3 March 2011 23:05 (fourteen years ago)

90s revival innit

barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Thursday, 3 March 2011 23:06 (fourteen years ago)

voted 1996.

50. Spice Girls - Wannabe - I don’t believe it!!! :-((

i love it when a suggest ban comes together (cajunsunday), Thursday, 3 March 2011 23:09 (fourteen years ago)

<3 Lamp

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 3 March 2011 23:11 (fourteen years ago)

1. Travis – The Man Who

wow really?

Darin, Thursday, 3 March 2011 23:18 (fourteen years ago)

yes, really. Explains why geir loves select.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 00:01 (fourteen years ago)

1991

didnt know "shift work" was so highly rated back then, but im glad it was. an overlooked Fall album.

the Chinese firewall of the heart (Michael B), Friday, 4 March 2011 00:10 (fourteen years ago)

now its overlooked duh

the Chinese firewall of the heart (Michael B), Friday, 4 March 2011 00:10 (fourteen years ago)

It got 10/10 in NME.

fit and working again, Friday, 4 March 2011 00:50 (fourteen years ago)

so did a wolfsbane album and a nick cave live album, don't see anyone talking about them much.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 02:09 (fourteen years ago)

you mean that live seeds album? that thing's great!

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 4 March 2011 02:26 (fourteen years ago)

im sure, but it's not exactly written about everywhere

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 03:12 (fourteen years ago)

ppl too busy losing their shit over grinderman and dig lazarus dig!!! (lol) when neither is as good as live seeds ;_;

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 4 March 2011 03:14 (fourteen years ago)

i thought you loved those albums

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 March 2011 05:05 (fourteen years ago)

grinderman's alright, each album has about 1/2 great trax + 1/2 throwaway/filler

DLD!!! is like 90% garbage

fav nick cave solo albums: let love in + blues/orpheus

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 4 March 2011 05:06 (fourteen years ago)

Wow, I'd forgotten how much Select loved Julian Cope.

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 4 March 2011 08:48 (fourteen years ago)

I will make the rather lame and obvious point that despite there hatred for it .. Oasis are very much like a hip-hop group from the pointless publicity seeking feuds (Dre-Easy E , 2pac - Biggie , Ja Rule - Dre , Nas - Dre = Oasis - Blur + Oasis and every indie band since there rise to fame) .. the sampling/theft of older works to create something new with more bite( Dre = Parliament-Funkadelic , Oasis = T.rex/The Beatles/Coca Cola)

hence my vote for deffers maybe as the best select album of the year

NotaRacistAustralian, Friday, 4 March 2011 09:01 (fourteen years ago)

At first glance, '91 or '95. Will have to read more in depth and figure out a rubric.

naus, Friday, 4 March 2011 09:03 (fourteen years ago)

1991 will win because it's obviously the best list, although lololol at them putting Nevermind so low.

1997's top three is unfuckable-with though.

Matt DC, Friday, 4 March 2011 09:55 (fourteen years ago)

Also respect to them for voting Super Discount so high.

Everything from 1998 on is poor though.

Matt DC, Friday, 4 March 2011 09:55 (fourteen years ago)

The 1991 list has a lot of amazing records at the top and then loses the plot, whereas there are great albums throughout the 1995 list but it loses my vote for having What's The Story Morning Glory at #2.

Matt DC, Friday, 4 March 2011 09:59 (fourteen years ago)

Hate all these, voted SB.

ka£ka (NickB), Friday, 4 March 2011 10:15 (fourteen years ago)

lol at 'dirty geffen'

Ward Fowler, Friday, 4 March 2011 10:18 (fourteen years ago)

2. One Dove - Morning Dove White

1993 exoticness

someone_who_cares_about_hipsters (history mayne), Friday, 4 March 2011 10:19 (fourteen years ago)

speaking of which, no '36 chambers' -- but three wu joints in 1995. that's a fair reflection of how they broke out [among indie kids] in the uk.

someone_who_cares_about_hipsters (history mayne), Friday, 4 March 2011 10:22 (fourteen years ago)

Select was a terrible man for the missing out on hip-hop classics and overrating the follow-ups.

Matt DC, Friday, 4 March 2011 10:25 (fourteen years ago)

ctrl-f crazysexycool

someone_who_cares_about_hipsters (history mayne), Friday, 4 March 2011 10:26 (fourteen years ago)

Would've voted 1998 if they'd included Mansun, the twats. This is gonna take more thought. Thought which I can't spare the time for. Probably 1991 like everyone else then idk.

acoleuthic, Friday, 4 March 2011 10:37 (fourteen years ago)

So is everyone just voting for the year they started getting into music properly then? Everything before 1994 feels like "that was before" and everything after feels like "this is now" to me. But this of course coincides with my 14th birthday and going to the shop with a gift voucher and choosing 'Parklife' over 'Now 30' and feeling all growed up. Also the year I think I first picked up a copy of Select.

barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Friday, 4 March 2011 11:09 (fourteen years ago)

1998 list is fucking woeful.

Matt DC, Friday, 4 March 2011 11:13 (fourteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Velvet_(album)

i don't even remember catatonia being a big 'select band' or w/e

what were they thinking? for shame, etc.

someone_who_cares_about_hipsters (history mayne), Friday, 4 March 2011 11:17 (fourteen years ago)

The 98 list is really bad but I can forgive them anything for being the only list that year to feature Earl Brutus, should have been number one though.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 4 March 2011 11:19 (fourteen years ago)

It's really odd looking back now that the music press completely missed Belle & Sebastian's first two albums from their lists in 96. I think they started catching on with the singles the next year and by the time The Boy With The Arab Strap came out they felt they had a lot of making up to do, which even extended to the woeful Fold Your Hands in 2000. Select must have been the only ones claiming Tigermilk was actually a new album in 99 or maybe they just didn't know it was an old album?

Kitchen Person, Friday, 4 March 2011 11:26 (fourteen years ago)

It's really odd looking back now that the music press completely missed Belle & Sebastian's first two albums from their lists in 96.

there is another way of looking at this

someone_who_cares_about_hipsters (history mayne), Friday, 4 March 2011 11:27 (fourteen years ago)

Kind of easy to forget quite how huge Catatonia were now.

Matt DC, Friday, 4 March 2011 11:29 (fourteen years ago)

Select was redesigned in 98, right? I remember buying it and just thinking how shit it had become, like I'm sure Oasis appeared on the cover three months in five. They tried to do a Radiohead retrospective featuring every song they'd recorded, much like the excellent Compleat Blur articles that came out a couple of years before, and it totally sucked.

barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Friday, 4 March 2011 11:36 (fourteen years ago)

No Afghan Whigs in these lists is some hardcore idiocy.

ka£ka (NickB), Friday, 4 March 2011 11:37 (fourteen years ago)

Select was redesigned in 98, right?

i *think* the editor changed then and became petridis? maybe a mild redesign, but the big one was closer to the end.

someone_who_cares_about_hipsters (history mayne), Friday, 4 March 2011 11:44 (fourteen years ago)

Think it was John Harris from 95 onwards and then Petridis for the last couple of years. Can't remember who it was pre-94.

Matt DC, Friday, 4 March 2011 11:52 (fourteen years ago)

Why did I have to be born at a time that dictated my early adulthood be defined and soundtracked by fucking Gomez, Travis and Shack? Seriously believe the stretch from 1998-2000 was an all-time nadir for pop and rock. Britpop turned pure MOR with Travis and Coldplay; US rock and hip-hop became a stomping ground for fratty Tom Green lunkheads like Fred Durst and Marshall Mathers; Moby's coffee-table house became unevadable quotidian wallpaper for every situation; garage had some good moments but had a dickhead fanbase and too many irritating tunes for me to truly love, and other dance music was driven by superclubs and overpaid DJs playing insipid formulaic trance to pissed-up lobsters in shiny shirts.

Don't know if it was because I was at uni at the time and forced to go to a lot of bad student nights and hang around with some of the worst people in the world... But it still feels to me as though everything that had been achieved in the first part of the decade had been vacuumed and polished for the most baa-baa audience. When electroclash came out and Mixmag was getting all "LOL, electro is just a phase", I was 100% behind it.

Anyway, I really hope that in another ten years' time the kids ignore the buffoonery of the late '90s and forget about reviving any of it.

barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Friday, 4 March 2011 11:55 (fourteen years ago)

Why did I have to be born at a time that dictated my early adulthood be defined and soundtracked by fucking Gomez, Travis and Shack? Seriously believe the stretch from 1998-2000 was an all-time nadir for pop and rock. Britpop turned pure MOR with Travis and Coldplay; US rock and hip-hop became a stomping ground for fratty Tom Green lunkheads like Fred Durst and Marshall Mathers; Moby's coffee-table house became unevadable quotidian wallpaper for every situation; garage had some good moments but had a dickhead fanbase and too many irritating tunes for me to truly love, and other dance music was driven by superclubs and overpaid DJs playing insipid formulaic trance to pissed-up lobsters in shiny shirts.

you're forgetting all the boring-ass warp-wave IDM

someone_who_cares_about_hipsters (history mayne), Friday, 4 March 2011 12:03 (fourteen years ago)

Zinged

barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Friday, 4 March 2011 12:23 (fourteen years ago)

imo there's loads of great stuff on that 'POX 1998 albums' thread from the other day - most of it isn't 'a shining example of the creativity in [some scene or other]', ymmv as regards how much importance you put in that kind of thing though

deeznults (DJ Mencap), Friday, 4 March 2011 12:26 (fourteen years ago)

There's always going to be an exception to the rule, and I'm sure there were plenty of decent disparate things going on at the time, but as a snapshot of the era, the 98 list upthread makes me feel really depressed.

barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Friday, 4 March 2011 12:31 (fourteen years ago)

i enjoyed 1998 more than most years and that's what counts

someone_who_cares_about_hipsters (history mayne), Friday, 4 March 2011 12:32 (fourteen years ago)

It's not a snapshot of an era, it's a snapshot of what a past-it music magazine was repping at the time. Your rundown of 98-2000 doesn't really ring true for me either, plenty of good stuff from that time in all those genres that your caricature just ignores.

Matt DC, Friday, 4 March 2011 12:34 (fourteen years ago)

Obv what you get out of an era of music is entirely subjective, and I'm sticking to my own experiences here. Sure there was even the odd nu-metal track that I didn't hate, and Eminem was kind of refreshing for the time etc... There must have been all sorts of good things going on because I was purchasing music like crazy. All the same, for me, it was the same time I stopped reading magazines, switched off the radio and converted to the internet to find out about new music. Not just because the internet was gaining ground, but more because I just didn't want to listen to "Turn" or something off Play or be told that Gomez were the saviours of music etc.... And I will also say that from where I'm standing the general quality of mainstream music seemed to improve dramatically 2001-onwards.

barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Friday, 4 March 2011 12:45 (fourteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 10 March 2011 00:01 (fourteen years ago)

16. Kellies – Kaleidoscope

???????????????????????

teledyldonix, Thursday, 10 March 2011 06:22 (fourteen years ago)

did we ever find out what that mc hammer thing was about? "king of the black market"

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 10 March 2011 13:57 (fourteen years ago)

voted 1999 because it has 36 albums on it (the most aesthetically-pleasing number)

bernard snowy, Thursday, 10 March 2011 14:02 (fourteen years ago)

frankly, fuck anyone who reads the whole thing before arriving at a conclusion

bernard snowy, Thursday, 10 March 2011 14:03 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, I just checked which year was SAW II and fuck everything else really

The north-east's Number 2 children's party magician (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 10 March 2011 14:14 (fourteen years ago)

1993 wins because of these:

2. One Dove - Morning Dove White
7. Bjork - Debut
13. Sabres Of Paradise - Sabersonic
14. Pet Shop Boys - Very
15. Orbital - Untitled
16. Sven Vath - Accident In Paradise
18. Cypress Hill - Black Sunday
27. The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride Ii The Pharcyde
43. Ultramarine - United Kingdoms
47. Trans-Global Underground - Dream Of 100 Nations

Tuomas, Thursday, 10 March 2011 14:16 (fourteen years ago)

1996 was the best music year of the 90s, but the 1995 list here reflects better the best stuff of that year than Select's 1996 list does. By 1996 Select were already starting to become slightly anti-Britpop, and as such didn't like much of the best stuff. This although Dodgy at #5 was a positive thing. ("Homegrown" should have been in the 1994 list though)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 10 March 2011 14:54 (fourteen years ago)

It was Andrew Harrison up to 95, then some guy whose name I forget for a couple of years, then John Harris for the first redesign, then Alexis Petridis for another redesign in the last year or so.

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Thursday, 10 March 2011 14:57 (fourteen years ago)

1994 on the strengths of Definitely Maybe, Parklife, Nirvana Unplugged, Let Love In, His 'n' Hers, Illmatic, Dookie, American Recordings, Grace, and Crooked Rain.

But whatthehell are they doing in that order?

And where's Beck, Weezer, and Sonic Youth, all of which had strong albums in '94?

Lee626, Thursday, 10 March 2011 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

OTM about the order. Of course "Parklife" and "His'n'Hers" should have been ahead of "Definitely Maybe" and "Illmatic" at the very bottom. :)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 10 March 2011 19:22 (fourteen years ago)

If I remember rightly Graham Lineham used to do the film reviews in Select. It started out shite then was fab for a couple of years before turning into a britpop wankfest. In 95 class albums from the likes of GZA, Royal Trux & Spiritualized not even in the top 35. Tssk!

Oh fuck, Campeg Veloclit or whatever they were called. I had excised them from my memory. I think they had some Clockwork Orange thing going on and were stupendously deluded and terrible.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 10 March 2011 19:50 (fourteen years ago)

Weezer were never particularly popular with the UK music press (apart from Q) in the 90s.

OH RICHEY, WHY. (PaulTMA), Thursday, 10 March 2011 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

I don't know why anyone's surprised that an indie-rock-focussed mag was a bit behind the curve on hip hop and R&B. What was good about it in the early to mid 90s was it stayed just one step ahead of its readership so that it was a gateway into different genres. The dance column was how I discovered Aphex Twin, Orbital, Hardfloor, etc. Similar kind of process with Wu-Tang, where I came to 36 Chambers retrospectively after hearing Raekwon and GZA. On the other hand, a fair chunk of the readership demanded 2nd rate Britpop cackola like Cast and the Seahorses, so they had to be in there too. I can't speak for anyone else but it worked for me, being just the right age at the time. Are the NME/MM lists from these years drastically different I wonder? (Q was obviously much worse)

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Thursday, 10 March 2011 20:10 (fourteen years ago)

here you go
http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/nmeindex.html

http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/mmpage.html

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 10 March 2011 20:44 (fourteen years ago)

Unlike Q, Select didn't really claim to be generalist. Surely, they did write about dance when dance had some links with indie (which most mid 90s progressive UK techno did), but they were first and foremost an indie mag, and then maybe aimed slightly towards the more pop oriented form of indie. Thus fitting perfectly with the Britpop boom (and apparently they coined the Britpop term in 1993 already)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 10 March 2011 21:39 (fourteen years ago)

im pretty sure they claimed to be a pop magazine

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 10 March 2011 23:03 (fourteen years ago)

does anyone remember select having a monthly league table of bands?

Michael B, Thursday, 10 March 2011 23:42 (fourteen years ago)

select had a fairly comprehensive dance and clubbing section right at the front of the mag, and it wasn't all prodigy/chems as far as i can remember.

farieling thosder chout a bagh an i ballme crantuman (dog latin), Thursday, 10 March 2011 23:45 (fourteen years ago)

they did a very big article on the spice girls IIRC

farieling thosder chout a bagh an i ballme crantuman (dog latin), Thursday, 10 March 2011 23:45 (fourteen years ago)

what i'm saying is they DID feature britpop quite heavily, but they covered a fair few other things on a regular basis.

farieling thosder chout a bagh an i ballme crantuman (dog latin), Thursday, 10 March 2011 23:46 (fourteen years ago)

they covered britpop more than any other mag though. (i guess because they invented it)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 10 March 2011 23:48 (fourteen years ago)

but its anti-american stuff was tiresome.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 10 March 2011 23:48 (fourteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 11 March 2011 00:01 (fourteen years ago)

AG, yeah all the LOLYanks stuff used to piss me off -

farieling thosder chout a bagh an i ballme crantuman (dog latin), Friday, 11 March 2011 00:31 (fourteen years ago)

Well, I thought it was pretty much needed, as at least the alternative side of the scene was pretty much dominated by Americans at the time. The non-tuneful pop styles were a bit different, as they were largely divided between dance, which was often not at all American save for the occasional guest vocalist, and hip-hop which was still at the time largely an American thing.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 11 March 2011 03:20 (fourteen years ago)

But I guess the choice of BritPOP as a description of the particular indie style they backed obviously means they saw themselves as partly a pop mag, yet, only pop that was considered slightly left of center compared with, say, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Phil Collins etc.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 11 March 2011 03:22 (fourteen years ago)

youre missing the point. it was the xenephobia that pissed people off.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 11 March 2011 03:33 (fourteen years ago)

Considering the American tradition of xenophobia against virtually anything else at least from the cold war onwards, I guess I don't see xenophobia against American culture as a bad thing.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 11 March 2011 03:44 (fourteen years ago)

its a bad thing if it's accompanied with jingoistic support for crappy domestic product

nakh is your name really Nakh Chi Van or were you kidding us? (nakhchivan), Friday, 11 March 2011 03:47 (fourteen years ago)

Crappy it wasn't though.

I loved Britpop largely because it was pop (because, yes it was, largely) with traditional melodies in a traditional songwriting way, yet band-oriented, singer/songwriter oriented and considerably less MOR than the acts that used to carry the flag for traditional melodic music in the charts of the early 90s (Wet Wet Wet, Elton John, Mariah Carey, Phil Collins.... you know....)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 11 March 2011 03:49 (fourteen years ago)

I didn't mind them for championing The Autuers at a time when there was a lot plaid wearing smackheads making some very tired noises. But britpop for me is an utter bag of shit. Ironically britpop occurs at a time that in my opinion was a golden age for American music. For me britpop was merely the new grunge and just as fucking nauseating. All that grey ladrock and lets go fucking waltzing down Carnaby Street with New Labour bollocks. Sorry about the shouting it just really piques me even thinking about this shite.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 11 March 2011 06:07 (fourteen years ago)

And where's Beck, Weezer, and Sonic Youth, all of which had strong albums in '94?

― Lee626, Thursday, 10 March 2011 19:09 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Weezer was a '95 release over here

then as now it's not exactly an uncommon view that that SY album was a major letdown

no Beck is slightly surprising

deeznults (DJ Mencap), Friday, 11 March 2011 08:43 (fourteen years ago)

I didn't mind them for championing The Autuers at a time when there was a lot plaid wearing smackheads making some very tired noises. But britpop for me is an utter bag of shit. Ironically britpop occurs at a time that in my opinion was a golden age for American music. For me britpop was merely the new grunge and just as fucking nauseating. All that grey ladrock and lets go fucking waltzing down Carnaby Street with New Labour bollocks. Sorry about the shouting it just really piques me even thinking about this shite.

― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 11 March 2011 06:07 (3 hours ago)

This is the most tired and fallacious caricature of Britpop IMO. It references maybe one tongue-in-cheek Blur b-side, Noel Gallagher's Union flag guitar and Menswe@r (who were basically a pastiche anyway). So many great singles and albums, from Pulp, Supergrass, Bluetones and yes Blur and to a lesser extent Oasis, came out of that scene and yet it still gets lazily dismissed as jingoistic faux-Cockney retro music. You'd think all Blur had ever done was copy Ray Davies and lark around in red, white and blue trousers. That's like saying all Nirvana ever did was sit around decked top-to-toe in plaid while moaning about suicide.

And how was 1995 a golden age for American music? Unless you're a massive fan of Live or Stone Temple Pilots I'd say it was kind of a low point...

farieling thosder chout a bagh an i ballme crantuman (dog latin), Friday, 11 March 2011 10:19 (fourteen years ago)

No, I agree, in 1995 Select should have completely ignored Blur, Oasis, Pulp, Elastica, etc - all those charismatic, popular bands - and put Urge Overkill on the cover.

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Friday, 11 March 2011 10:24 (fourteen years ago)

A hahaha..ha

It's like any 'movement' of music, the ones left defined by it are the ones that got left behind by it.

"1977 Punk" nowadays, past the Pistols, Clash, gets bands like The Lurkers, Sham 69, UK Subs, whereas the bands that were punk for a bit moved on (Banshees, Joy Division, The Fall, etc)

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 10:28 (fourteen years ago)

.. and ended up not necessarily being described now as 'punk' or even 'ex-punk'

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 10:29 (fourteen years ago)

If only post-Britpop had been as good as post-punk.

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Friday, 11 March 2011 10:31 (fourteen years ago)

A fair few American indie bands from that era have been retrospectively canonized by the Perpetua bores though - Sebadoh/Pavement/Neutral Milk Hotel etc. At least Britain has the decency to be faintly embarassed by Britpop now.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 March 2011 10:32 (fourteen years ago)

I kind of think of the Verve, Spiritualized, Radiohead, UNKLE etc as post-Britpop - in my head that was much more Select's imperial moment than high Britpop.

Stevie T, Friday, 11 March 2011 10:42 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah I don't remember any of those bands or their records being referred to as Britpop at the time, even The Verve/The Bends.

The Verve represent British indie's swing from mod to hippy obviously.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 March 2011 10:47 (fourteen years ago)

At the time, outside of "Select" mag, little was branded as "Britpop" specifically, until the mask was a weight to cast off.

So, "Cast" = Britpop whereas Supergrass umm.. managed to .. escape the damnation without necessarily taking the buying audience with them.. (?)

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 10:55 (fourteen years ago)

there is so much shit in these lists. albums i own, or have owned, and will vaguely rep for below. as an overall aesthetic it is completely alien to my own '90s. how weird to rep for TLC in '99 but not '95.

1991 Albums

5. Massive attack - Blue lines
15. KLF - The white room
28. Prince - Diamonds and pearls

1992 albums

12. Pj Harvey - Dry Too Pure
17. The Shaman - Boss Drum One Little Indian

1993 Albums

5. Pj Harvy - Rid Of Me
7. Bjork - Debut
23. Saint Etienne - So Tough

1994 Albums

3. The Prodigy - Music For The Jilted Generation
7. Portishead - Dummy
11. Massive Attack - Protection
12. Orbital - Snivilisation
13. Saint Etienne - Tiger Bay
18. Nas - Illmatic
24. Hole - Live Through This
41. Jeff Buckley - Grace

1995 Albums

3. Tricky - Maxinquaye
8. Raekwon The Chef - Only Built For Cuban Linx
25. Pj Harvy - To Bring You My Love
27. Goldie - Timeless
31. Bjork - Post
46. Massive Attack Meets The Mad Professor - No Protection
47. Garbage - Garbage

Albums 1996

2. Orbital - In sides
16. Stereolab - Emperor tomato ketchup
17. DJ shadow - Endtroducing
24. Nas - It was written
43. The fugees - Ready or not
45. Orbital - The box
50. Spice Girls - Wannabe - I don’t believe it!!! :-((

Albums 1997

6. Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds – The Boatman’s Call
27. Missy ‘Misdemeanour – Supa Dupa Fly

Albums 1998

1. Air – Moon Safari
9. Lauryn Hill – The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill
10. Black Box Recorder – England Made Me
18. Madonna – Ray Of Light
22. Garbage – Version 2
23. Massive Attack – Mezzanine

Albums 1999

6. Basement Jaxx – Remedy
8. TLC – Fanmail
17. Roots Manuva – Brand New Second Hand
28. Missy Elliot – Da Real World

Albums 2000

8. Eminem – The Marshall Mathers LP
12. Black Box Recorder – The Facts Of Life
16. Kellies – Kaleidoscope <= who typed this up, seriously

lex pretend, Friday, 11 March 2011 10:55 (fourteen years ago)

I kind of think of the Verve, Spiritualized, Radiohead, UNKLE etc as post-Britpop - in my head that was much more Select's imperial moment than high Britpop.

― Stevie T, Friday, 11 March 2011 10:42 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

OTM, although I see it as three or four distinct waves of Britpop that came in very quick succession, this being the fourth and final wave before NME really started taking the piss with bands like Tiger and Terris.

first wave - '93 to mid '94: Modern Life Is Rubbish, DogManStar, Holy Bible etc.
second wave - late '94 to '95: Different Class, I Should Coco, Blur vs Oasis, Elastica
third wave - 1996: Placebo, Kula Shaker, Space, Bluetones, Octopus, Skunk Anansie (very strange year as far as I can recall)
fourth wave (post-Britpop) 1997-1998: OK Computer, Ladies And Gentlemen, Urban Hymns

farieling thosder chout a bagh an i ballme crantuman (dog latin), Friday, 11 March 2011 10:59 (fourteen years ago)

Rong.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 March 2011 11:04 (fourteen years ago)

I don't think the Manics or Placebo had anything to do with Britpop rather than being around at the same time and being repped for by the same publications. Skunk Anansie were around much earlier and were sort of in the same bracket as the earlier Britpop bands (see also Audioweb et al) before it became a kind of flagwaving caricature. Tiger predated OK Computer etc by a good year and Terris appeared around the time of the first Coldplay album and have nothing to do with this.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 March 2011 11:06 (fourteen years ago)

It's really:

1) early Britpop to Britpop Imperial phase (93 through 96 - Blur, Pulp, Suede, plus yer Echobellys and Sleepers and what have you)
2) crap bandwagonning bands (1996-98ish Cast, Space, Kula Shaker)

And then outsider bands who were around at the same time as all of it and became huge as everyone was tiring of Britpop (Radiohead, The Verve, the Manics etc). Although The Manics and The Verve appealed to the post-Oasis ladrock audience much more easily than they'd be comfortable admitting.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 March 2011 11:14 (fourteen years ago)

No, I agree, in 1995 Select should have completely ignored Blur, Oasis, Pulp, Elastica, etc - all those charismatic, popular bands - and put Urge Overkill on the cover.

― Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Friday, 11 March 2011 10:24 (45 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ha, I know you probably picked them at random but there's probably a decent argument that everything innately dislikeable in Britpop had an American parallel in Urge Overkill

deeznults (DJ Mencap), Friday, 11 March 2011 11:15 (fourteen years ago)

I was hesitating as to whether to include Skunk and the Manics in this list as you're right, they were Britrock and existed in their own continuum, despite being played in the same clubs and featuring in the same mags as the Britpoppers. Suede are funny, because they did get compared to Blur and were often lumped in with Britpop by association, but I never really saw them as Britpop, more a sort of Goth/Romantic thing.

farieling thosder chout a bagh an i ballme crantuman (dog latin), Friday, 11 March 2011 11:17 (fourteen years ago)

Cast were John Power of the La's and some other people, who'd got sick of waiting for Lee Mavers to actually do something and got on with things.

So, it's unfair to label them as bandwagon jumpers because
1) They started it
2) They'd have sounded no different if Britpop hadn't become a 'cultural big-thing'

They were a whole bunch of things, maybe, but in summary "The La's, without being as good"....

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 11:17 (fourteen years ago)

"Britpop" as defined in that famous 1993 Select cover was fairly quirky and arty - Luke Haines, Denim and Saint Etienne as well as Suede, Pulp and Blur. And initially the emphasis was on the pop - here was a wave of good-looking, mouthy, often clever pop stars who went to number one and did funny, tabloid-worthy things. It's just that as soon as you got past the top rank you ended up with blokey bores like Northern Uproar and the Seahorses. A shame the memory of the bad still overshadows the good - it's remembered as a laddish, jingoistic, anti-intellectual movement because of the Oasis effect when it started out as the opposite.

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Friday, 11 March 2011 11:19 (fourteen years ago)

Exactly like punk then.

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 11:20 (fourteen years ago)

Cast featured in a "Bands who sound like Oasis" feature in Select (probably one of the most transparently ironic articles ever written in the history of music writing). And it's true, they did sound like Oasis and not that much like the La(')s. Although I did quite like Sandstorm and Walk Away (proto-Keane).

farieling thosder chout a bagh an i ballme crantuman (dog latin), Friday, 11 March 2011 11:21 (fourteen years ago)

Walk Away being played as England went out of Euro 1996 is probably at least partially responsible for a decade's worth of terrible British balladeers.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 March 2011 11:23 (fourteen years ago)

Probably like most genres:

Exciting arty insurgent phase > triumphal imperial phase where flaws are overlooked and bandwagon jumpers tolerated > hubris and mediocrity > let us never speak of this again

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Friday, 11 March 2011 11:25 (fourteen years ago)

It's a bit different in dance genres:

Exciting ruff-and-ready phase > triumphant imperial phase > split between watered down mediocrity and self-conscious artiness > sounding exactly the same for the next 15 years.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 March 2011 11:28 (fourteen years ago)

Cast featured in a "Bands who sound like Oasis" feature in Select

has this been scanned? sounds lol

history mayne, Friday, 11 March 2011 11:34 (fourteen years ago)

<3 the r&b genre for being both eternally constant and ever mutating <3

lex pretend, Friday, 11 March 2011 11:36 (fourteen years ago)

But it doesn't work like that, that's like saying "indie is constant and ever mutating". There are individual trends and genres within rnb that follow Dorian's trajectory exactly. Timbaland-post-Timbaland rnb being one, filterdisco/Guettahouse adoption being another (that's had a very short imperial phase and a very long embarassing one actually).

Matt DC, Friday, 11 March 2011 11:38 (fourteen years ago)

Actually it's more like saying "house is constant and ever mutating".

Matt DC, Friday, 11 March 2011 11:39 (fourteen years ago)

this

farieling thosder chout a bagh an i ballme crantuman (dog latin), Friday, 11 March 2011 11:40 (fourteen years ago)

1990, 1996 and 1999 are quite poor. I'll go ahead and predict those 3 as the bottom 3 on the poll.

― Moka

Damn off by one.
I'm not counting 2000 at the bottom since it seemed nobody else considered it as part of the decade.

Moka, Friday, 11 March 2011 13:43 (fourteen years ago)

I remember there being a 'Noelrock' article with an illustrated extended family tree in Vox magazine in 1996. I think it was enthusiastic rather than mocking

OH RICHEY, WHY. (PaulTMA), Friday, 11 March 2011 13:59 (fourteen years ago)

*shudder* Noelrock

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Friday, 11 March 2011 14:24 (fourteen years ago)

Back then, kids, if Noel said yr band was rubbish, all the music journalists would also say you were rubbish, and start doing cartoons and articles on the comedy pages about how rubbish your band was. If Noel said you were alright, you could live another day, secure in knowing they won't break you (yet).

So, Shed 7 had their career curtailed, whereas Stereophonics are still going and didn't routinely get slagged until they did "Mr Writer", which transgressed the law nine, the one to do with hands and biting...

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:32 (fourteen years ago)

*shudder* Noelrock

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Hey I like Christmas music.

farieling thosder chout a bagh an i ballme crantuman (dog latin), Friday, 11 March 2011 14:34 (fourteen years ago)

Stereophonics were being routinely slagged way before Mr Writer and I don't think their initial critical appraisal was that great either. I doubt the vengeful lash of Noel's ranting interview technique did much harm to Blur or Radiohead for example.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:36 (fourteen years ago)

Um, he didn't actually say they were "*shit*" though, did he?

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:37 (fourteen years ago)

I mean, he would take them to task for very specific transgressions, (Blur/Radiohead I mean)

Whereas Shed 7 were basically "shit (looks the other direction)"

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:39 (fourteen years ago)

Well in fairness Shed Seven WERE shit.

I also suspect that the reason a few terrible post-Britpop bands were initially given a critical free pass was a) fear of getting the Next Big Thing wrong and b) that the band members were good fun to go out on the piss with. I'm suspecting that b) accounted for a surprisingly large amount of column inches devoted to the 60ft Dolls.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:39 (fourteen years ago)

aye.

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:50 (fourteen years ago)

I mean, "Happy Shopper" was alright, but many bands went way beyond their five mins...

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:50 (fourteen years ago)

I kind of think of the Verve, Spiritualized, Radiohead, UNKLE etc as post-Britpop - in my head that was much more Select's imperial moment than high Britpop.

Spiritualized are surely more postrock than Britpop? At least they completely left behind the song structures and empasis on tunes associated with Britpop (as did also Radiohead later on, but that was later on - "The Bends" still had a lot of Britpop's musical identity in it, even "OK Computer" to some extent)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 11 March 2011 14:52 (fourteen years ago)

Not completely, no.

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:53 (fourteen years ago)

or you know, the verve,spiritualized,radiohead, manics,unkle etc simply had fuck all to do with britpop and would have made those albums regardless

xp

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:54 (fourteen years ago)

So, Shed 7 had their career curtailed, whereas Stereophonics are still going and didn't routinely get slagged until they did "Mr Writer", which transgressed the law nine, the one to do with hands and biting...

Ray Davies also transgressed the law nine, but for some reason was still forgiven by the critics.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 11 March 2011 14:54 (fourteen years ago)

or you know, the verve,spiritualized,radiohead, manics,unkle etc simply had fuck all to do with britpop and would have made those albums regardless

The Verve were already established, but it isn't unlikely Britpop influenced them to go in a more anthemic direction on many mid-to-late 90s tracks.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 11 March 2011 14:55 (fourteen years ago)

I always thought it was really weird how Select suddenly got the knives out viciously for The Bluetones around the time of Marblehead Johnston, despite the lack of backlash elsewhere in the press. Of Latterly of course they are always grouped with all the other 'lumpen' Britpop acts, though they still seemed to be at a commercial and critical career peak when this suddenly happened. I always thought there was some kind of ulterior motive behind it.

OH RICHEY, WHY. (PaulTMA), Friday, 11 March 2011 14:55 (fourteen years ago)

Which song you mean, Geir?

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:55 (fourteen years ago)

think the verve sort of fit in with noelrock, but not those other bands. manics definitely benefitted from the general pro-crappy-british-guitar-rock environment of 1996.

history mayne, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:55 (fourteen years ago)

even in the days of britpop some american music was getting rave reviews ie afghan whigs,screaming trees, sebadoh, yes even urge overkill not to mention the fact that dance music was popular with indie kids, britpop was not the only thing that happened in the mid 90s, Geir.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:57 (fourteen years ago)

There is a distinction, I feel, between the NR bands that shared some of the influences of Oasis but used them differently by default, and those that blind-cited Oasis as their primary reference...

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:58 (fourteen years ago)

shared common references that Oasis had, oh you know what I mean...

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:58 (fourteen years ago)

Exciting arty insurgent phase > triumphal imperial phase where flaws are overlooked and bandwagon jumpers tolerated > hubris and mediocrity > let us never speak of this again

> non-existance or existance as unhip under-the-radar genre for a while > revival > backclash against revival/something else revived instead > continued eternal existance as unhip under-the-rader genre, in a few cases occasionally and briefly replaced by a revival of the revival.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 11 March 2011 14:58 (fourteen years ago)

but british indie guitar bands got even worse after britpop with all that dadrock crap like OCS and travis which led to utter shite like coldplay & keane then it still managed to get even worse with all the landfill indie of the last 5 or 6 years.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:59 (fourteen years ago)

and then Tom Jones gets involved. (xpost)

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 14:59 (fourteen years ago)

landfill indie of the last 5 or 6 years

Do you have a list of these bands?

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 15:00 (fourteen years ago)

Which song you mean, Geir?

Surely "The Drugs Don't Work" and "Sonnet" in particular seemed unlikely to have happened had it not been for a handful of anthemic Oasis ballads in the years just before.

britpop was not the only thing that happened in the mid 90s, Geir.

Surely, the mid 90s were also a golden age for progressive techno, trip-hop, drum'n'bass and big beat....

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 11 March 2011 15:00 (fourteen years ago)

I was meaning "Which Kinks song transgressed the rule nine"

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 15:01 (fourteen years ago)

I'm starting to feel like we're having this conversation on a weekly basis.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 March 2011 15:02 (fourteen years ago)

new board description

^^ this is probably said five times a day

history mayne, Friday, 11 March 2011 15:03 (fourteen years ago)

oh and i heard Noah & The Whale today for the very first time today on radio 2 in my dads car. They were awful really boringly awful, I switched stations on the way back and i heard Mumford & Sons and jack someone (kinda folky stuff) and it was really really bad so i had to change it before my dad started to like it (it really is old dads music). So looks like this kinda music is even worse than what preceded it the last decade.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 11 March 2011 15:03 (fourteen years ago)

We're all having a drinkie whenever anyone mentions Kula Shaker around here...

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 15:03 (fourteen years ago)

this conversation is like reading alt.music.alternative circa 1997 all over again ^_^

ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Friday, 11 March 2011 15:04 (fourteen years ago)

GKeeper: Our Alice likes Mumford and sons, I keep telling her "This is the sort of thing I'm supposed to like, not you. And I'm not that fussed about them anyway"

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 15:04 (fourteen years ago)

hahaha

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 11 March 2011 15:05 (fourteen years ago)

xpost Now how I remember it, Mark. Critics weren't crazy about the Stereophonics before Mr Writer which is why they wrote Mr Writer in the first place.

Pop is superior to all other genres (DL), Friday, 11 March 2011 15:05 (fourteen years ago)

my dads nearly 20 years older than you Grouty, you will probably be posting on ilm with your grandchildren when youre his age.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 11 March 2011 15:06 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, not 'crazy', and after MrW it was all "oh rlly? RIGHT!!!"

I'm still pondering which kinks song did the biting...

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 15:06 (fourteen years ago)

my dads nearly 20 years older than you Grouty,

You sure?

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 15:07 (fourteen years ago)

he's 68

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 11 March 2011 15:08 (fourteen years ago)

ok.

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 15:09 (fourteen years ago)

I was meaning "Which Kinks song transgressed the rule nine"

"Mr. Reporter". From "Face To Face", I believe.

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 11 March 2011 19:14 (fourteen years ago)

(come to think of it, it was a b-side of some single from the mid 60s)

You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Friday, 11 March 2011 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

ah right. Not very visible I guess.

I'm assuming, being as it's from "Face to face", it's a good song.

Mark G, Saturday, 12 March 2011 01:19 (fourteen years ago)


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