Least convincing / most lol-worthy aspect of The Weeknd's quick rise to Internet fame

all of the above option please.

missing vowel.

lock thread.

lock thread.

― Nult AGL (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:51 AM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

glad ilxor's weighed in on this now that theres a pfork review to react to

oh i've seen the ilx thread trust me, just didn't care to waste time weighing in & getting involved

xpost
http://www.truthandbeautybombs.com/bb/images/smiles/burnsauce.gif

good thing you used your time so wisely on this thread instead

yeah can't believe i took 45 seconds to make a poll. no one EVER wastes time on ilx, what was i thinking??

"Glass Table Girls" is pretty clearly about doing coke Una Stubbs

oh god is that in the review? wow

would vote for temporarily fashionable influx of PBR&B* in general

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* © Eric Harvey, 2011

yeah can't believe i took 45 seconds to make a poll. no one EVER wastes time on ilx, what was i thinking??

― ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:59 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

you introduced the concept that one thread about this topic is a waste of time, i'm just following through on your premise dogg

4th thread on this? gtfo

the ddrake co-sign obv

hahaha

!!!

missing vowel

When we were kicking around potential names for our band, one of the rejects was "The Vwls"

You made the right choice

"missing vowel" should have been quoted not boldfaced. Someday i'll stop confusing the b and q formatting codes...

watched a couple of the youtube links on the other thread and seriously do not get why anybody gives a fuck

^ new board description?

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

PBR'n'B!

idk what pbr is, we've been going with tumblr&b

different worlds, mayne

Pabst Blue Ribbon - afaik skanky brand of beer drunk by Williamsburg hipsters, usually ironically.

Am I right about this?

why are those people so gross

as far as cheap beer goes pb&r is really on the high end of the spectrum

but yeah it has a reputation as a 'hipster beer'

i don't think we have a "hipster beer" in the UK. so either we win, as a nation, or i win for not being aware of it

but then i mostly drink wine or spirits unless i'm hungover

the PBR thing is funny. i thought the whole point of embracing something like PBR was to not give a shit (or show that you don't give a shit) (or both) about fancy foods, having the correct taste, etc. and then this one beer out of maybe 30 common cheap beers becomes the "cool" cheap beer. it's like congratulations, you are shipping the same quantity of tribalist plumage as your peers but are also stuck with shitty beer.

that's pretty much hipsterdom summed up in one paragraph tracer!

like, i never ever get that "omg everyone around me looks the same, talks the same, behaves the same" feeling as much as i do when i'm in shoreditch or dalston

well i think i lot of hipsterdom is actually about giving quite a lot of a shit, and i like that aspect of it! even if people do look the same (my mom was commenting about that yesterday, in london fields. she noticed that most people who were walking together dressed extremely similarly, and the younger they were the more true that seemed to be). it's the brand fetishization of certain willfully crap durables and consumables that kind of boggles me.

UK hipster beer = Red Stripe

yeah I don't think there has ever been a UK equivalent to PBR

which, and I don't say this very often, is a credit to Britain imo

xp nah not convinced

lol red stripe = expensive as fuck over here

Coming from out of London, I'm not so frequently subjected to hipster culture as others, but I did notice this when I was in Farringdon last week. Literally everyone had the same stephawk haircut, same skinny jeans, same baseball jackets, same high-top trainers. Truly weird. I don't have a problem with fashion trends per se, as this is what they are, but it's bizarre that these ostensibly forward-thinking trend-conscious people are so willing to copy each other note-for-note.

definitely not red stripe, only place where that's the definite beer of choice is among jamaicans

maybe it had some exotic rasta cachet in like 1987 but it just seems like one of many just-about-acceptable drink-it-cos-it's-there options to me

You can get Stripe everywhere now, and obviously it's going to have the Rasta-cred thing that hipsters will latch onto. Plus it's as close to a low-qual beer without tasting like pissy Fosters or Carling.

Leffe was the one I was thinking of at first - it's much more expensive, though

http://www.thefancarpet.com/uploaded_assets/images/gallery/668/Back_to_the_Future_Part_II_7838_Medium.jpg

Which thread do we do the awkward shuffling/raucous lolling on when a commercial R&B diva inevitably comes out massively in favour of The Weeknd?

if we've survived kelis cosigning la roux and the beyoncé/sleigh bells rumours, we can survive anything

also insert drake-already-has joke here

Also we don't have "hipster beers" we have "music venue beers", which used to mean Red Stripe and increasingly means either Carling or Tuborg - ie weak piss.

Coming from out of London, I'm not so frequently subjected to hipster culture as others, but I did notice this when I was in Farringdon last week. Literally everyone had the same stephawk haircut, same skinny jeans, same baseball jackets, same high-top trainers. Truly weird. I don't have a problem with fashion trends per se, as this is what they are, but it's bizarre that these ostensibly forward-thinking trend-conscious people are so willing to copy each other note-for-note.

You know this has been true of pretty much every fashion trend man has ever created, right?

btw Beyonce cosigning Sleigh Bells makes up for her being into Grizzly Bear IMO

Tuborg will make you throw up before you get drunk.

everyone here drinks pabst because it is the cheapest beer you can buy is it also the cheapest in the us?

hipster beer = ale tho, right?

sometimes it's tied for price with old milwaukee but you see both around v often

I thought tecate was the new hipster beer

anyway hipsters could have picked a worse beer to latch onto. I suppose PBR is the most widespread cheap beer that doesn't have frathouse connotations. true hipsters go for miller high life.

Coming from out of London, I'm not so frequently subjected to hipster culture as others, but I did notice this when I was in Farringdon last week. Literally everyone had the same stephawk haircut, same skinny jeans, same baseball jackets, same high-top trainers. Truly weird. I don't have a problem with fashion trends per se, as this is what they are, but it's bizarre that these ostensibly forward-thinking trend-conscious people are so willing to copy each other note-for-note.

You know this has been true of pretty much every fashion trend man has ever created, right?

― whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Monday, April 4, 2011 12:24 PM (12 minutes ago)

Yeah but it doesn't make as much sense for the trends that arise due to the idea of being against conformity. Makes sense to call those cases out.

It is impossible by definition to have a trend that is against conformity.

what is the 'tipping point' at which enough ppl latch onto something that it becomes a 'trend' and thus 'conformist'??

like, how many hipsters, or what % of hipsters, have to order PBR at a show in order for it to be a 'thing'?

I still drink a lot of pissy cheap beer (primarily the ones available at Trader Joe's). But that's mainly cause I'm poor these days and not because its somehow a cool thing like back when me and my hip scenester krew would drink Olympia and PBR and Hamm's. When I have the money I like a nice IPA in a bottle... or hard cider, I've recently gotten way into those.

Then again, when you have like 5 people together and everybody only has like 3 bucks on them and you all want to get drunk, your only options are cases of canned shit pretty much -- so you seek out the ones that are better than the rest. Ie. PBR >>>>>> Keystone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Milwaukee's "Best."

I think it has less to do with trying to be actively contrarian with regards to "proper taste" and more that the correlation between "being a hipster" and "having a minimum wage job" seems pretty high. This is also probably why malt liquor 40s are popular basically across the board with high school/college kids.

Sorry to further derail this thread into beer chat, though...

It is impossible by definition to have a trend that is against conformity.

― whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Monday, April 4, 2011 12:49 PM (9 minutes ago)

Yeah! Exactly.

Xpost Tbf, beer chat is more enjoyable and informative than perpetuating the Weekndgate debate.Kronenbourg is my default get-it-anywhere lager of choice.

no one answered my question but i suspect this has a lot more to do with pbr's price niche than hivemind. maybe there is more cheap beer variety in the usa but here there's barely anything with the same value until you take a big step into malt liquor & strong beers. not denying that pabst hipster id is a thing, there are hipter bars that serve pabst here, but unless u expect young ppl to care abt drinking more expensive beer at parties there isnt a huge selection of noncomformist alternatives

When I have the money I like a nice IPA in a bottle

YES <333

everyone here drinks pabst because it is the cheapest beer you can buy is it also the cheapest in the us?

― flopson, Monday, April 4, 2011 12:29 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark

not cheapest but down there for sure

pbr thing isn't really complicated:

1) hipsters need a cheap beer
2) mainstream/fratty brands, lite beers, and brands that cost a dollar or two more are out
3) pbr is is a little better than schlitz, old mil, etc.
4) as an added bonus it's a brand with a strong tradition that can be "reclaimed"

ime miller high life was equivalent in terms of test, value, and cache, esp after they redesigned the bottle. the brand that hipsters really missed on is regular coors, which costs about the same and tests much much better.

I'm no expert on this, but the stereotypical London hipster always used to do silly things like strap a pair of sandals to his face or wear a baby dummy or something equally ricockulous and attention-seeking but nevertheless displayed a degree of wanting to stand out from his peers. This maelstrom of fashion insanity seems to have settled down and settled into a uniform style.

xpost I used to be a big High Life stan but these days it gives me headaches like ice-brewed beers do. Don't know whats up with that, but I always preferred the 'champagne of beers' myself. That and Hamm's Golden Draft, which basically tastes like MGD but is like 3 or 4 dollars cheaper.

think cad has figured this one out. hipster tribalism & related hipster as pejorative explanations are rarely satisfying

i think most would agree its p unique for balance of not totally gross & very cheap

all metalheads & crust punks i know drink pbr exclusively

i think most would agree its p unique for balance of not totally gross & very cheap

weeknd?

I seriously thought PBR became a hipster beer because of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snhiofL2Rh4

it probably contributed!

ha I remember in college the actual hipster types would drink Miller High Life

Life would be so much nicer if everyone drank gin and tonics.

xp yeah most ppl i know would drink whichever one was on special at the store.

nowadays i support GANSETT as the beer of all new england hipsters.

lol I ended up with a 12-pack of that after the Superbowl, it was surprisingly tasty

red stripes not so expensive in the US!

(although nostalgia makes me pine for Meister Brau)

not here at least. it is kind of a hipster beer i guess! so is tecate.

gansett's not bad! i get it at shows and stuff. the seasonals they're doing now are actually quite good.

red stripe is probably more expensive than it's worth but it's necessary in hot weather. i actually had some modelo especial cans recently and they were surprisingly good--that would be a nice choice for hipsters.

i had some narragansett this weekend. you cant get it in nyc really but its all over ne it seems like.

yeah i think modelo is as a hipster beer now. red stripe you can get for like 6.99 a six-pack here which seems about right for the quality. i drink a lot of it. i think yeungling and rolling rock count as hipster beers too.

xxp: the guy who brought it was all "this is 2nd half beer" and proceeded to drink practically the entire Victory variety pack I had bought

I will admit that hot weather makes a lot of those super light beers make a hell of a lot more sense; going to Puerto Rico taught me to really, really appreciate Coors Light.

it does not explain why Miamians drink Heineken.

Heineken is all right but Amstel is much, much better.

what the hell is wrong with you internet people

xxp: the guy who brought it was all "this is 2nd half beer" and proceeded to drink practically the entire Victory variety pack I had bought

aww that's not classy!

i had some narragansett this weekend. you cant get it in nyc really but its all over ne it seems like.

skimmed this as "i had some narransraggett this weekend"

Life would be so much nicer if everyone drank gin and tonics.

― Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, April 4, 2011 5:22 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^ http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=505 xp

ah shit

i dunno fellas, i've had some music-venues gin and tonics that i wouldn't wish on you

gin-based drinks in general are the hallmark of civilization

especially the Last Word

music venue gin and tonics are generally http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathtub_gin quality imo

Is Colt 45 just an LA Hipster thing?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/96113350@N00/5216784077/

ack!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/96113350@N00/5216784077/

i mainly know Colt 45 from like Chuck D et al's argument about its high alcohol content and aggressive marketing to the black community, so when i saw so-called "enlightened" white NYC hipsters so quick to throw money at them, I was pretty smh

I drink Heineken in Miami because the fat can stays cold longer.

http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/countygrind/2011/03/colt_45_blast_snoop_dogg.php

oh... oh no

i mainly know colt 45 from being 13 years old

There was the Drake cosign,

is this drake the writer?

Colt 45 is big w/ my friends in Portland.

xpost I believe it was the type of dragon, known as "The Drake"

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Drake

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

everybody's looking forward to the weeknd, weeknd

Don't really feel on-board with the "they all dress/drink the same!" aspect of the skewering of hipsters (of the williamsburg or shoreditch varieties) ITT. Fashion trends are like music styles: when you're not into it you become blind to nuances and apt to assume generalisations are 100% correct.

otm..."they think they're different but they're all the same" is like the 1+1 fucking equals TWO!!! of hipster discussion

and in fact i am often surprised by how many diff types of hipster there are...less than noticing total uniformity anyway. there are all sorts of older trends, mod, metaller, etc etc etc threaded through the whole hipster thing.

that plus the fact that people, even ones i've never met, tend to be different from each other due to having minds/beliefs etc.

and in fact i am often surprised by how many diff types of hipster there are!

Yes. Even in gay-hipster world - which for obv reasons should be even more intensely uniform - you get guys in wifebeaters + flannel shirts with fop-tops and five day growth hanging out with shiny-point-shoes bryl-creamed little princes hanging out with tanned tennis-ready preppy types and these are all clearly within the venn diagram "gay hipster" but on any other sensible reading ought to have nothing to do with one another.

Don't know why I added an exclamation mark to yr quote ronan.

ime miller high life was equivalent in terms of test, value, and cache, esp after they redesigned the bottle. the brand that hipsters really missed on is regular coors, which costs about the same and tests much much better.

― call all destroyer, Monday, April 4, 2011 5:09 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

coors co. supports extreme right wing politics & i remember flyers the black student org put out on my campus about how u shouldnt buy coors, k*l*ans, blue moon, etc because the guy who runs the company throws millions of dollars at destroying affirmative action

lmao @ googleproofing of k*l*ans

craft beers in general are huge 'hipster beers' in chicago. you cant throw a rock right now w/out hitting some bearded dude in flannel who will make pronouncements abt what kinds of craft beers are worth your time & how he's making his own beer etc etc etc in this city. i think these dudes just wish they lived in portland

i mean PBR is still a thing but thats like, for 20 yr olds. by the time u have a job & have started working at groupon, which is singlehandedly employing chicago's hipsters and by extension keeping revolution, half acre and metropolitan brewing in business, they prefer to sip beers like a fine wine

im not immune although i cant really afford to be

isn't liking nice ales just like...a pretty normal thing to do for any middle class person or upwards?

it's not just hipster, is kinda like liking football or something surely?

^^never been to the u.s.

the states had no craft beer culture until up into the 80s & even then it was pretty heavily niche-ified. it wasnt til the past 5-10 years that this shit really started growing

i think it had something to do w/ prohibition, like in the 20s all the craft brewers went out of business & only the huge co's could afford to keep going by putting barley production towards ... i dont know what, i feel like i heard some drunk beardo tell me this at a party so its kinda spotty

nah not everyone is into microbrewery or whatever here but it doesn't feel exclusively hipster either. don't old men in the us like microbrewed ales?

x-post ah i see...that kinda answers my question.

ireland is quite weird like this, literally zero craft beer culture, i only started drinking ale when i moved to london. my irish friends hate it.

i think its funny max was the one who brought up rolling rock, my parents arent big beer drinkers but on the occasion my mom wants one with her burger or whatever in the summer she buys rolling rock, so i associate that beer w/ all parental ephemera from my childhood, like 'graceland' & fleetwood mac

Craft beer (and during summer craft cider) is huge over here and it's definitely an inner-urban middle-class thing, but if it codes "hipster" it does so in a way very different to the Weeknd.

Most people into craft beer here would be going to see local live music, if they're into hipster R&B it'd be Sharon Jones but not the Weeknd. They'd be all about "adult lovemaking" but against the specific sonic trappings.

Whereas the audience for the Weeknd wouldn't invest their hipster energy into the alcohol they drink - probably will drink Coopers Pale, which is a fairly "safe" cheap but respectable beer. More likely to be into pills and dope and spend their discretionary income on that.

Maybe Australia is different in this regard but mostly when I read about overseas hipster trends I recognise them around me as well so i doubt it.

Maybe how deej describes holds true outside the NW, but here microbrews are really a common thing to drink, more centered out yuppies than anything. I've had people who were totally square talk shit about me drinking PBR or High Life and it's just like... I'll drink Mac & Jack or some other micro when I have a few extra bucks, but fuck you, I'm poor.

what's craft beer? microbrews? the guys that make their own stuff on the weekends?

more centered on*

i think what tim describes might be more true where Al is, but yeah in chicago right now i think there's a huge overlap between pabst drinking weeknd listeners & craft-drinking sharon jones listeners -- craft beer is all anybody seems to talk abt any more. part of it is we have all these extremely successful breweries right now that opened up in the last couple years

Yeah, I think that stage happened around here like 20 years ago and now it's just taken for granted as part of the landscape.

Wait, is this discussion really going on on two threads at once? Dear god.

some hipsters drink whatevers cheap and available, which is often pbr (i think of these as the young music/art types?)
some hipsters drink craft beers/microbrews (i think of these as like indie/npr types?)
some hipsters drink prohibition-era cocktails with specially-crafted ice cubes (hipster yuppies? rich party-going fashion types?)

one thing i dont see many hipsters drink is wine

coors co. supports extreme right wing politics & i remember flyers the black student org put out on my campus about how u shouldnt buy coors, k*l*ans, blue moon, etc because the guy who runs the company throws millions of dollars at destroying affirmative action

― timbo slice (D-40), Monday, April 4, 2011 7:49 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i did this on the truth bombs thread but every big beer co. supports right wing politics as does almost every big company in general; consign yrself to drinking shitty microbrews i guess. also when pete coors ran for senate he supported civil unions which by itself put him a few levels below straight-up hatemonger.

xpost possibly because being a wine connoisseur takes a shitload more time/money/attention-to-detail.

confused about how not buying the big beer brands consigns me to 'shitty microbrews'

Wine makes me sick and I don't even kinda like the taste of it.

yeah wtf xp

yeah im just sort of surprised, there are a lot of nyc hipsters with tons of money and an affection for "artisan"/"handmade"/"terroir" type-stuff that wine basically invented, youd think theyd be all over it. though here in new york it may just be that you cant make wine out of long island grapes in an old bushwick warehouse?

xxp

it seems to me that the recent explosion in craft brew stuff sorta took that space anyway

which maybe that was your point

My taste in alcohol is pretty butch tbh. If I had my way, I'd drink nothing but ale and scotch.

wine is a man's drink rev dont get it twisted

unless yr drinking like spritzers or bubbly or w/e

Haha, actually now that I think of it, bubbly is pretty much the only wine I can handle.

feel like wine education is still pretty inaccessible.

also wine comes in inconvenient formats and is hard to drink in hectic bars and stuff.

sry i called microbrews "shitty" that was disingenuous of me.

think the lack of wine is cos like.....does anyone get loaded up on wine when going out doing drugs or whatev? like you might drink wine at 7am on an all nighter for want of something else, or at dinner beforehand, but if it's long sessions then always gonna be beer or spirits, at least that's how it appeared IN MY DAY

Yes. Even in gay-hipster world - which for obv reasons should be even more intensely uniform - you get guys in wifebeaters + flannel shirts with fop-tops and five day growth hanging out with shiny-point-shoes bryl-creamed little princes hanging out with tanned tennis-ready preppy types and these are all clearly within the venn diagram "gay hipster" but on any other sensible reading ought to have nothing to do with one another.

― Tim F, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 00:49 (36 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah it's like, how can you possibly generalise tracks that simultaneously feature grime whine, baltimore breaks, egregious r&b samples, chillwave synths and cowbell. there must be all manner of fascinating nuances at play.

LOL yes but I'm not saying there isn't some kind of underlying sensibility where all these things co-exist, or that the differences make any one of these aesthetic choices (let alone all of them) desirable. I just think the "they all sound the same" line is wrong.

But you know "it all sounds the same" is the one criticism I would not make of avant-frankenstep. The opposite is maybe the bigger problem.

think the lack of wine is cos like.....does anyone get loaded up on wine when going out doing drugs or whatev?

yes

10m xposts - i've always equated PBR here with Red Stripe in UK, mainly because that's everyone drank at gigs when I was a student.

There's a subset of professional/hipster cross types (e.g. lawyers I know who are into post-dubstep) who drink connoisseur wine but you need to have $$$. Actually these people would be well into the weeknd.

There's also a subset of students who drink goon (cheap wine from a box) but although these people aren't necessarily poor they're usually not hipsters.

I made the mistake of fucking around with box wine saturday night. :(

xpost possibly because being a wine connoisseur takes a shitload more time/money/attention-to-detail.

― Tim F, Tuesday, April 5, 2011 1:27 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark

idk up to a point... it takes more attention to detail because unlike 'appreciating craft beers' wine connoisseurship is an actual thing

er...think craft beers is a thing...have you ever been to a craft beer shop? pretty sure there is a lot of knowledge there, the people that work in them are mega serious about it.

i know they are

re: pbr

4) as an added bonus it's a brand with a strong tradition that can be "reclaimed"

This is definitely a big part of it in my opinion, its not any good but it has a tradition - feel like there's more regional ones also - Iron City?

Rainier fits that niche around here, but Rainier is ghastly.

and yuengling, as mentioned upthread

rheingold tried to make a hipster comeback along these lines (somebody bought the brand, which had become defunct) but i don't think it really took

Yes but Yuengling is way more drinkable than pbr or iron city!

Sorry to derail, but I'm increasingly under the impression more people would give this act the time of day if it wasn't called The Weeknd.

My half-hearted reservations stem from two things:

1. There are already three bands called Weekend or The Weekend in my record collection
2. The swearing

PBR is not available to hipsters in Toronto. Traditionally, they drink Labatt 50, though IPAs are coming back into style.

Yes but Yuengling is way more drinkable than pbr or iron city!

agreed

http://parallax-view.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/weekend.jpg

It breaks my heart that there are a load of people with valuable perspectives on alcohol that are avoiding this thread because they think it's just a load of critics shouting at one another.

so what I've learned from this thread is that ppl like drinking more than the weeknd

drinking is the weekend

The red wine-drinking hipster is totally a thing by the way.

a hipster's just a drunk friend you haven't met

if you want to use the word "hipster" as basically a synonym for "snob", I think u will quickly discover that there is a nearly infinite variety of hipsters

mustard hipster

I just wanted to point out that the intersection between "hipster" and "classical musician" is packed full of wine drinkers, especially amongst the women. Also mad gin and whiskey drinks.

well you'd need to be a bit mad to make a drink with gin and whiskey..

haha

think the lack of wine is cos like.....does anyone get loaded up on wine when going out doing drugs or whatev?

yes

― lex pretend, Tuesday, April 5, 2011 2:11 AM (6 hours ago)

waht

Mixin' up a little Bombay Sapphire and Johnny Walker Black.

I have no idea who Weeknd are, but I love this thread. I noticed in Oklahoma all hipsters drink PBR or craft beers. And recently in Austin I was surprised at how many people were drinking PBR. I mostly drink wine or whiskey or Scotch.

i still suspect that craft beers are a bigger thing amongst ppl who also happen to drain PBR cans in the states & maybe its a midwest thing

what does gbx's gf drink??

i have all the time in the world for craft beers

wtf is a craft beer

I have no idea but I'd definitely be into one

i went to trader joe's yesterday and got a sixer of name tag (pretty sure this is worse than PBR) and some cheap white wine that looked decent

am i a hipster / should i listen to the weeknd while i drink this shit

right now i'm massively into asahi. love how dry it is + they have in on tap in loads of places in london now

best derailed thread ever!

my dad got me a brewing kit for xmas. i haven't broken it out but i should during this snow week, cause it's as good a time as any.

was just thinking, what a top quality derail, so glad the end of the thread isn't about artist y is shit cos fan x etc.

could bump the other thread but I feel like this is a better place for this HIGH PRAISE from a press release:

"2015 has been a breakout year for THE WEEKND, he is just the third artist to have two songs in the Top 10 of the Hot 100 simultaneously in 2015, and the first male. Only Taylor Swift and Meghan Trainor have previously held that honor this year."

also, I'm not sure about the exact dates so the stat may well be right, but wouldn't the first male be fetty wap

it's refreshing to see someone described as the "first male artist to" do anything.

i will always rep for "the morning"

What baffles me about hipsterdom is how thoughtless it can be. Up here in Canada you never used to be able to get PBR (thank god). The kind of people who would've started the PBR thing in the US drank shitty regional beers - the stuff your drunken uncle would drink - in order to signify "I don't give a shit about your elitist tastes" or whatever. In the west it was Pilsner, or back when you could get it, O'Keefe's Extra Old Stock. In Ontario, Labatt 50. But what are the kids drinking now, coast to coast? Somebody else's drunken uncle's beer. Weird.

uh why isn't "hair" an option

can't believe "free mixtape" didn't get any votes, that's always the reason I hear anything

iirc he didn't have weird hair back then?

(btw, lol at this thread's long detour into beer talk)

Some foreigner's drunken uncle's beer.

That's specially imported to give an air of being nothing special.

haha, i missed this stealth beer thread. now i want to get to the bottom of what UK people think "craft beer" is.

for a musician/artist is the weeknd's hair really that weird?

i think cad had this down pretty good

pbr thing isn't really complicated:

1) hipsters need a cheap beer
2) mainstream/fratty brands, lite beers, and brands that cost a dollar or two more are out
3) pbr is is a little better than schlitz, old mil, etc.
4) as an added bonus it's a brand with a strong tradition that can be "reclaimed"

ime miller high life was equivalent in terms of test, value, and cache, esp after they redesigned the bottle. the brand that hipsters really missed on is regular coors, which costs about the same and tests much much better.

― call all destroyer, Monday, April 4, 2011 1:09 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

high life has this chimerical quality of going from great to nauseating with the drop of a few degrees

in what universe is pbr better than schlitz??

also here is as good a place as any to say fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck the term "pbr&b" ban music journalists forever

^^^^^^^^^^^

high life has this chimerical quality of going from great to nauseating with the drop of a few degrees

― goole, Wednesday, August 5, 2015 12:03 PM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the fuck am i saying, the *rise* of a few degrees.

i had a chart in my head i was trying to describe. wrong axis.

High Life definitely better than PBR or Coors imo. At this point Budweiser is probably the most slept on beer in that class tbh.

In Boston, Narragansett has largely replaced PBR as Cheap Beer of Choice, at least the last time I was at the Middle East and Church. Surprisingly, as close to Boston as Manchester, NH (one hour north on I-93) still has PBR as their cheapest option and yet doesn't stock Narragansett.

yeahh pbr&b has gotta be the worst microgenre neologism ever

and i agree that his hair is terrible

Seattle reverted to type and Rainier (ghastly bullshit) became the cheap beer of choice again, although I feel like Hamm's has been replacing it lately.

nah I love his hair

theres a lot about him thats never benen convincing, much like drake, but who needs gravitas when you have dudes mopeing about having to have sex with tens of models every night over dark synths while cursing unnecessarily to show how much attitude they have beyond the sensitively damaged persona?

I missed out on the fact that Max Martin produced his chart topping single. That guy gets around.

I love several tracks from House of Balloons, but his collective output to date, especially what they play on the radio has been very underwhelming and uninspiring

New album is largely horrible, like a Pick up Artist who wants you to think he's deep.

i'm honestly amazed i haven't read a thinkpiece linking him to PUA/MRA etc culture (and, in a different way, drake)

His hair can be divided into roughly four sectors, each with its own distinct personality (front left: flopped-over moose antler; back left: tiny octopus).

apparently guy-man will only produce tracks for the weeknd at 93bpm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKDU5pXhf5o

The Weeknd has earned it.

somewhat-but-not-entirely surprised to see that the music from his latest album cycle, despite being quite successful, appears not to have elicited any comment on here yet

i still have to roll my eyes a little at the compulsory nostalgic touchstones in all his big '''pop''' hits but "blinding lights" might also feature some of the best production max martin has been involved in for years

I'm impressed by the ambition and I guess audacity of cancelling $100 million in ticket sales for a four-time rescheduled arena tour in a gamble that all those fans and more will again shell out for a future stadium tour.

he's come a long way from the days of free mixtapes

"blinding lights" now #1 all time song on spotify

it's a nasty top 10 anyway and fine to have sheeran displaced from the spot but I can't fathom the missed opportunity of those placeholder mercedes commercial lyrics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-streamed_songs_on_Spotify

So new song with Madonna and Playboy Carti is ok. Probably one of the best Madonna singles in years. Weeknd still sticking to copying styles. Sounds influenced by 00’s Timbaland/Neptunes.

jesus christ! his show is SO BAD! the protagonist pop star has not one thing to do with the way any contemporary artist as such operates; and most importantly. this is very clearly "what noted pop scholar Abel believes about popular music of the of the past 40 years "(utterly on the nose observations re: Prince and Donna Summer) "and the way he would make a boring pop automaton into something REAL and EDGY, via drugs and cults and dirty fucking." and in creating the music boring, wounded automaton Jocelyn makes before Tedros gets involved with her, noted pop scholar Abel fails to make music that doesn't sound exactly like the templates he has popularized for a decade. I am a pretty big fan of his, and I so I do wish that this pitch was rejected…my god, that last scene…

I liked the interview with the journalist scene. that was the only thing really.

hey hipsters remember them what was that about

Oh joy:

Some of the harassment was specific to Temori’s sexual orientation, the lawsuit claims, with one HBO employee allegedly slapping Temori’s butt, blowing kisses, and “commenting about personal and sexual matters.” When Temori began to push back against some of the treatment he was experiencing, Martinez and the lawsuit allege that HBO executives made Temori believe he was being offered a better career opportunity with a role as a script coordinator on The Idol in August 2021. On set, the lawsuit alleges Temori faced similar discriminatory and harassing behavior from The Weeknd and some The Idol producers. But by October, he was terminated. “Higher executives at HBO in the department he was working were pushing this position on him — that they were doing him a favor,” Martinez says. “What he discovered is it was more likely an opportunity for HBO to rid itself of him because it put him in a space where it was easier to terminate or eliminate his position.”