Not guitarIST, mind you. Guitar. Electric or acoustic, hollow or solid-body. Name brand, knock-off or custom made. Maybe even one person's guitar in particular.
I don't have an answer, except that I know it's not either of the ones I own.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 24 April 2011 07:38 (fourteen years ago)
haha
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 24 April 2011 07:41 (fourteen years ago)
imo its the gibson es-335 no contest, if i listed my favorite guitarists more of them would play that than anything probably
i don't have one, but i do have epiphone's "dot" es-335 knockoff, and i love it to death even if it aint a gibson
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 24 April 2011 07:42 (fourteen years ago)
close second is, predictably if you know my tastes, the tele
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 24 April 2011 07:43 (fourteen years ago)
I've got a Squier Strat that I've had for 20+ years, and it's been thrashed and beaten and taken apart and rewired and repainted a number of times and has had every conceivable combination of pickups (right now, a humbucker and two singles). I'm partial to it, but I know it's junk.
My other, which I've only had for about 4 years, is an Epiphone Special double cutaway. I bought it because it looks nice and it was underpriced and I've never owned a Gibson/Epiphone. I appreciate it, but don't really feel comfortable playing it. I definitely prefer Fenders b/w the two brands.
Over the years, I've had a bunch of different pawn shop guitars (a Tele knock-off, a 12-string hollow body by some Japanese manufacturer, and some others) and I even bought a Silvertone once, but it felt like playing a toy.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 24 April 2011 07:54 (fourteen years ago)
haha yeah my homie has a super old silvertone and like its cool that he owns a vintage silvertone, cause its a fuckin vintage silvertone, but its like playing a cardboard box
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 24 April 2011 08:07 (fourteen years ago)
I'm especially partial to my Dot because, in the midst of some bad days, I pawned it--a little more than a year later, on a subsequent birthday, I came home to find it on my bed. My friends had tracked it down in a different city and pooled the money to buy it for me, and my gf-with-the-key snuck it into my place while I was at work, so I got to come home to a guitar I thought was gone forever.
It was kinda a big deal at the time, and I still love how I've used it to sit in with blues players, write bar rock songs & do my best to hang in jazz jams.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 24 April 2011 08:10 (fourteen years ago)
Old Black
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Sunday, 24 April 2011 08:33 (fourteen years ago)
I'm partial to it, but I know it's junk.
Sometimes they're the best guitars.Not exactly junk, but I have a Strat that I put together from licensed parts, with the master tone mod and the 5 way switch replaced by three toggle switches (one per single coil pup). My favourite guitar by a long way. Particularly odd, as for a decade I refused to play anything but twin humbuckers. Also I have three homemade guitars which are increasing just taking up space/operating as dust traps.
― grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Sunday, 24 April 2011 09:01 (fourteen years ago)
anagram OMT.
http://www.thrasherswheat.org/gifs/old-black-cu.jpghttp://www.thrasherswheat.org/gifs/old-black-back-cragg.jpg
― StanM, Sunday, 24 April 2011 09:13 (fourteen years ago)
oh, ok then - fansite http://thrasherswheat.org doesn't allow hotlinking images, so here they are again:http://i53.tinypic.com/aw9szl.jpg http://i53.tinypic.com/2lxcmbm.jpg
― StanM, Sunday, 24 April 2011 16:22 (fourteen years ago)
That one's been well-loved.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 24 April 2011 16:25 (fourteen years ago)
Trigger is another much loved guitar:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2611/3696548223_2f818afb5f.jpg
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 24 April 2011 16:27 (fourteen years ago)
brian may's red special
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Brianrs.jpg/446px-Brianrs.jpg
― mizzell, Sunday, 24 April 2011 16:37 (fourteen years ago)
the greatest guitar of all time at the present moment, for me, is the travis bean tb500. i've never played one, but the design of the body just looks absolutely perfect and i like to think they'd substantially heavy slung over my shoulder that they do slung over the shoulder of my mind.
http://i.imgur.com/QuyYa.gif
i also like es-335s alright enough to have let go all my other guitars but a shitty chinese copy that desperately needs a good set-up (or at least a nut replacement to stop the buzzing that i'm too lazy to do anything about but leave the capo on). also seems like every year i entertain '52 telecaster fantasies on craigslist, but that's just dreaming.
― del griffith, Sunday, 24 April 2011 19:32 (fourteen years ago)
That looks like whatever it is that Steve Albini plays. Aren't they aluminium?
― nate woolls, Sunday, 24 April 2011 19:41 (fourteen years ago)
Stratocaster - I think it's the most versatile guitar. In the wrong hands, they sound thin and lifeless. In the right hands, they sound celestial (Alex Chilton, Jimi Hendrix, Richard Thompson)
― Brooker T Buckingham, Sunday, 24 April 2011 19:42 (fourteen years ago)
Greatest single guitar of all time, probably Old Black (which is actually a Les Paul Goldtop painted black, with one Firebird pick-up in the bridge and a P-90 in the neck). In fact, lots of famous guitars are actually weird hybrids, from Springsteen's Tele to Van Halen's Frankenstrat. (Richard Thompson's "Strat" is also a hybrid, with a Tele pick-up in the bridge, strat middle and P-90 in the neck). But greatest model? Telecaster. Tele gets you Springsteen, Prince, Jonny Greenwood, Keith Richards, Syd Barrett, Jimmy Page (first two Zeps, plus "Stairway" solo), Graham Coxon, Steve Cropper, Robbie Robertson, PJ Harvey (eventually) , Joe Strummer, James Honeyman-Scott, Andy Summers and a bunch more iconic Tele players before you even get to the country guys.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 24 April 2011 19:50 (fourteen years ago)
Though I agree Strat may be the most versatile, for better or for worse.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 24 April 2011 19:51 (fourteen years ago)
That white Epiphone Crestwood deluxe that Fred Sonic Smith used in the MC5 and Sonic's Rendezvous and then was sold to Deniz Tek who used it in Radio Birdman.
― StanM, Sunday, 24 April 2011 20:04 (fourteen years ago)
Two quite different players did wonderful things with that same instrument = can't be a bad guitar imho. :-)
Flying V
― Master of Treacle, Sunday, 24 April 2011 20:09 (fourteen years ago)
I never knew the Crestwood's name, thanks!
http://www.hyperguitars.com/image/main/im425100049068682.jpg
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 24 April 2011 20:11 (fourteen years ago)
whoaaaaaa
having never played a jaguar in my life i love the way they look and the residual cobain cool tbh
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 24 April 2011 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
i had this really mistaken idea that squiers were like the 'high school garage band' brand, are they really worth dropping a dollar on if you want to gig from time to time?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 24 April 2011 20:20 (fourteen years ago)
yep, that's the one. aluminum neck, you betcha. tim midgett from silkworm plays a slightly different model (and a baritone bean in bottomless pit). bright, crunchy, near-infinite sustain. beauts.
― del griffith, Sunday, 24 April 2011 20:24 (fourteen years ago)
i've always thought of them as nothing but jokes that don't stay in tune, guitars that you buy to break at the end of the set basically, but a buddy of mine says these new "classic vibe" squires are fairly decent for the money and you can find one for about $150. i think they all have bolt-on necks though? which is uncool but whatever, price is right.
― del griffith, Sunday, 24 April 2011 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
if i'm not mistaken, there was a disposable-squier legend surrounding and you will know us by the trail of dead, apparently they would buy squier strats in bulk just to smash 'em up every night? courtesy of jimmy iovine
― del griffith, Sunday, 24 April 2011 20:28 (fourteen years ago)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bBDnaiOY84c/TOm9kqO665I/AAAAAAAAAko/JNqfT0AhDPs/s1600/Tito+%2526+Tarantula+-+Undead.JPG
― shamefully blowable (latebloomer), Sunday, 24 April 2011 20:29 (fourteen years ago)
Most of my favorite guitar music has been made with 335s and Jaguars.
― Spencer Chow, Monday, 25 April 2011 18:34 (fourteen years ago)
lmfao @ latebloomer
― markers, Monday, 25 April 2011 18:40 (fourteen years ago)
i like these
http://i.imgur.com/XaSXv.jpg
n.b. have never used one iirc
This thread has been done before several times iirc.
― it's time for the fish in the perculator (Steve Shasta), Monday, 25 April 2011 18:42 (fourteen years ago)
I always wanted a lucite Ampeg Dan Armstrong (a la Keef ca. Let It Bleed/Altamont or Greg Ginn)
― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Monday, November 29, 2010 6:56 PM (4 months ago)
― it's time for the fish in the perculator (Steve Shasta), Monday, 25 April 2011 18:43 (fourteen years ago)
a bandmate had one once, years ago. he hated it -- bridge problems -- went out of tune like crazy.
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 25 April 2011 19:06 (fourteen years ago)
parlor Gibsons are so fuckin awesome - simple sears catalog jobs like the LG-1, were cheap then and are (relative to other guitars of similar age) cheap now, and just give & give & give. the late Les Pauls from right before the end of the Kalamazoo run are incredible too - I've played a '78 and own one of the 79s, one of the last 1500 after they fired the factory back up one last time (the Les Paul KM, which was supposed to have been a replica of the '59, but isn't.
I think the best sounding guitars I've ever played are a '30 Gibson (iirc...old a fuck, anyway) & a '67 Martin, both rentals from a Chicago shop. The high end on the Martin had this crystalline ring to it, remarkable.
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 25 April 2011 19:18 (fourteen years ago)
. i think they all have bolt-on necks though? which is uncool but whatever, price is right.
Um, they're Fenders. They're supposed to have bolt on necks. Nothing wrong with that.
I think the greatest guitar of all time just from a design/technology/historical/philosophical point of view is the Strat.
― wk, Monday, 25 April 2011 19:31 (fourteen years ago)
for some reason i thought for the longest time the bolt-on was the domain of the squier imprint exclusively. pardon my ignorance and thank you for setting me straight wk, you are a good person.
― del griffith, Monday, 25 April 2011 19:59 (fourteen years ago)
I've always had a gibson SG fetish, considering it the quintessential gtr in the fields of acid rock or metal or w/e. Don't own one though (another owner of a cheap ES-335 copy here)
― I was bored/trolling one day (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 25 April 2011 20:13 (fourteen years ago)
Gibson SG, Melody Maker or Les Paul depending on what tone I feel like, Fender Telecaster -- they cover everything I generally need.
― Gorge, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 00:26 (fourteen years ago)
oh man i shouldnt even get started here
― The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 01:16 (fourteen years ago)
jjjusten - what's the greatest guitar that you sell?
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 01:21 (fourteen years ago)
hahaha it feels kind of like picking a favorite child or something, let me think about it.
i mean at the moment i am most enamored with a 1963 Supro Martinique, but it is obv not for everyone.
― The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 01:25 (fourteen years ago)
SGs are cool, but I could never vote for them as the greatest guitar because of the design flaws, shady history, etc. They're like the Corvair of guitars.
― wk, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 01:30 (fourteen years ago)
I've got one of those '61 reissue SGs and it's been a blast to play. The SG is a pretty versatile guitar all around, identified so strongly with garage, metal and hard rock but pretty smooth when need be and/or played clean. When I got it, the dude I got it from had made these stupid mods. He put in locking tuners, which was dumb, since it has no tremolo and they just made the neck heavier. Then he deactivated the neck pick-up (as in, totally cut the wire), in part to make room for the battery to power his lame active pick-up in the bridge. He said he hated the sound of the '57 Classic PAFs in there, which came off ridiculous to me. Why get a guitar built to '61 specs then change all the things that made it what it was?
Dunno why anyone would not want a bolt-on neck, btw. They're practical for lots of reasons, and also let you get away with bending the neck a little bit. Glue-on necks are mostly cosmetic, and also (esp. with certain Gibson models) prone to damage and breakage if your guitar falls or gets dropped. Fenders take a licking and keep on ticking. Gibson electrics, for all their iconic status as "rawk" guitars, are ultimately pretty wimpy in the construction department.
I also have a surprisingly well-made Epiphone '56 Gold Top Les Paul I got for a steal, with great sounding P-90s, but my personal fave all around is a Telecaster with a humbucker in the neck. Kind of the best of both worlds. Lean, mean, twangy and tough, all in equal measure.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 01:36 (fourteen years ago)
yeah honestly a semi-hollow tele with a neck humbucker is, in my mind, the best thing ever
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 01:44 (fourteen years ago)
I feel like demanding a set neck goes hand in hand with changing out all your hardware for stupid heavy brass, including the nut, and finding the heaviest plank of wood you can get. In other words, some misguided '70s quest for TONE and SUSTAIN that doesn't have much to do with the actual physics of how a guitar makes a sound IMO.
― wk, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 01:47 (fourteen years ago)
Fenders take a licking and keep on ticking. Gibson electrics, for all their iconic status as "rawk" guitars, are ultimately pretty wimpy in the construction department.
Opinions vary. Both companies make rugged instruments, it's just you may feel worse when the Gibson takes a beating. I've had decades old instruments which I've played constantly. They can take it.
― Gorge, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 02:05 (fourteen years ago)
re: Squire, i really wanna try those new Jazzmasters w/ the Seymour Duncan pick ups. i wonder how they measure up to the ubiquitous 90s MIJ models?
― ur reading from a season in hell but u don't know what it's abt (missingNO), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 02:54 (fourteen years ago)
No talk of acoustics?
I like these:
http://ridunkulousexperiences.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/1_cvr-loveless.jpg
― Mark, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 03:48 (fourteen years ago)
I don't play guitars but in the looks department I am in the front standing with HOOS re: the es-335, I love how big they are, if I had one I'd totally wear it strung high chest level maybe I dunno
― dayo, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 04:03 (fourteen years ago)
When you said you'd wear it chest-level, I immediately thought of Larry Carlton. I can totally imagine that makes it easier to play all that jazzbo/Steely Dan stuff.
http://jazztimes.com/images/content/articles/0007/4379/Larry_Carlton_0216_depth1.jpg
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 04:11 (fourteen years ago)
yes! but mine would be more parallel with the grown, maybe even pointing downwards.
I've never put in the time to learn how to play but I bet you if I plunked down dough to get one of those I would definitely learn. objects of quality demand to be used.
― dayo, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 04:13 (fourteen years ago)
Mark, that would be a Fender Jazzmaster. And prolly my vote, just on a taste-based pref... really dig surf rock, really dig shoegaze.
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 05:34 (fourteen years ago)
Can't speak to the greatest, but the worst are those Ovation sumbitches with the rounded plastic back. They all sound like SHIT.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 05:35 (fourteen years ago)
These things, yuck.
http://www.allacousticguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/ovation-acoustic-guitar-1770442805621601600.jpghttp://www.allacousticguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/ovation-acoustic-guitar-1770442805621601602.jpg
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 05:39 (fourteen years ago)
Can I give a nod to Hetfield's Explorer? I don't even know if I like it yknow, hanging on a wall, but as a choice for a thrasher I kind of love it
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp201/sharonjoy666/a0a9b643.jpg
Dunno that it's greatest of all time, just had to throw it in the mix :)
― VegemiteGrrl, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 05:59 (fourteen years ago)
The weight distribution on those things is so weird. It's not like playing any other kind of guitar.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 06:13 (fourteen years ago)
i played one of the ovations once and instantly had beads in my hair, it was the weirdest thing
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 15:49 (fourteen years ago)
down the street in the music shop window they've got a cool old silvertone guitar and amp. and a cool old danelectro too. i want them and i don't even play guitar.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 16:10 (fourteen years ago)
i am getting a new guit w/my tax refund what kind do i get in the $5-800 range u guys
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 16:14 (fourteen years ago)
'72 Tele Deluxe
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 16:18 (fourteen years ago)
i feel kind of bad, i don't even have a gut answer on this
― goole, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 16:19 (fourteen years ago)
i will say that i really don't like the SG tho, the balance is way off on those things
― goole, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 16:20 (fourteen years ago)
BIG HOOS, you already have an Epiphone and a Tele, so tell us: what kind of other guitars are you thinking of? You have a range covered right there.
― grandavis, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 17:15 (fourteen years ago)
Right this moment if I had a few hundred to blow, I'd get an Ibanez Jet King.http://www.seymourduncan.com/images/newsletters/winter05/ibanez.jpg
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 17:17 (fourteen years ago)
Hoos needs some p90s imo.
― The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 17:19 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.eastwoodguitars.com/GTRs/sidejack-DLX/images/gtr_Grn-sidejackDLX2.jpg
― The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 17:21 (fourteen years ago)
― goole, Tuesday, April 26, 2011 12:20 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
I heart my SG, but yeah, the balance thing is kind of awkward. Also, mine is an early-70s, which is when they were redesigned. This means that the neck at the headstock is absurdly thin and narrow. It was the reason Pete Townshend stopped using them.
― Funky Mustard (People It's Bad) (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 17:24 (fourteen years ago)
hoos why not get a dope parker fly (in yellow, or purple) & some wraparound oakleys and be kewl for once in your life
http://i.imgur.com/UHpDO.jpg
it can be your dedicated MIDI guitar
― del griffith, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 17:33 (fourteen years ago)
Steinberger of gtfo
http://www.edroman.com/guitars/steinberger/images/steinberger_guitar_235.jpg
― it's time for the fish in the perculator (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 17:35 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.humor-articles.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/satan_guitar.jpg
― don't judge a book by its jpg (Edward III), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 17:36 (fourteen years ago)
http://elitechoice.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/josh-pykes-boat-guitar_qxkaw_59.jpg
― VegemiteGrrl, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 17:41 (fourteen years ago)
I secretly wanted a Parker when they came out.
― kkvgz, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 17:42 (fourteen years ago)
I think I like Mustangs and Duo-Sonics best - the simple, flat body designs and the shorter scale necks.
― timellison, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 17:52 (fourteen years ago)
I know it was a student guitar, but this thing looks excellent:
http://cgi.ebay.com/1960-FENDER-DUO-SONIC-DESERT-SAND-100-ORIGINAL-/200599347390?pt=Guitar&hash=item2eb4a720be
― timellison, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 17:58 (fourteen years ago)
Wow, that's about as minimal as it gets.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 18:19 (fourteen years ago)
someone bought the danelectro down the street. 1959.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 19:03 (fourteen years ago)
Guess the Duo Sonic is what they based the mustang on. My workhorse guitar. It never fucks up, sounds great and is small. I was given a 335 as a gift when I was a kid and really before I started playing. House got robbed and trashed and I didn't know what it was so just went for a crappy guitar/practice amp bundle thing because I didn't have an amp. Totally ruined me when I saw what it was in the corner of an old photo.
― owenf, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 19:13 (fourteen years ago)
wau i am feeling rad just LOOKING at that jet king
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 20:16 (fourteen years ago)
haha yeah i wanted a parker for like 2 months in high school
Thing is, as awful as they look, they're great guitars; non-locking trem that stays in tune, piezo pickup you can dial in...but damn, does the headstock look fucking stupid. You look at that guitar and you think, no good music will ever be made with that.
― Funky Mustard (People It's Bad) (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 20:23 (fourteen years ago)
Gotta rep for this:http://www.electricguitarplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/rickenbacker.jpg
Hangs nicely, extremely well put-together, and sounds like nothing else on earth. Only downside is the narrow frets, so single-note leads are slightly chore-like.
― Funky Mustard (People It's Bad) (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
I like the Jet King 1 as much as I do the Jet King 2 (pictured upthread). Maybe more, actually.
http://i52.tinypic.com/28mpwu9.jpg
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 20:33 (fourteen years ago)
xp One of my friends played a Rick for forever, and I got to noodle around on it a lot too. It's a cool guitar, doesn't feel like playing anything else, but I could never get totally comfortable with it.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 20:35 (fourteen years ago)
It does take some getting used to; the strings are way high off the body.
― Funky Mustard (People It's Bad) (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 20:39 (fourteen years ago)
There's definitely a reason it's used by people like Roger McGuinn and Tom Petty and not people like Slash.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 20:41 (fourteen years ago)
i have never owned a tele fwiw!
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 20:42 (fourteen years ago)
Get one of these, you will never regret it:
http://images.guitarcenter.com/products/optionLarge/Fender/374566.jpg
― Paul McCartney and Whigs (Phil D.), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 20:44 (fourteen years ago)
I prefer the '72 Deluxe. No f-hole, and more sturdy than a standard Tele.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 20:46 (fourteen years ago)
Also, individual volume/tone controls.
Keiji Haino switched from SGs to '72 Deluxe Teles. That's an endorsement if there ever was one.
― Funky Mustard (People It's Bad) (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 20:48 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.clarktech.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/72deluxetele.jpg
I've wanted one of these for YEARS, but I always talk myself out of it (have never dropped more than $400 on a guitar).
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 20:48 (fourteen years ago)
That's where Squier comes in useful ($250 new)
― Funky Mustard (People It's Bad) (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 20:49 (fourteen years ago)
Is there a Squier version of the 72? If so, I never knew about it.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 20:52 (fourteen years ago)
They do indeed, it seems! http://www.squierguitars.com/products/search.php?partno=0327502506
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 20:53 (fourteen years ago)
Individual tone/volume controls are overrated IMO. If you're on just the bridge or neck pickup, the second set of controls is redundant. If you're in the middle, do you really fine-tune your sound that much onboard the guitar?
― Paul McCartney and Whigs (Phil D.), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 20:54 (fourteen years ago)
for the tele side of things, go G&L.
http://www.arkay.de/guitars/gl/gltribute_asat_special_sh_001.png
― The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 20:56 (fourteen years ago)
xp I think it's a lot better to have one tone and one volume for the whole guitar, because it's a lot easier/more accurate/faster to make tone/vol adjustments while playing compared to a 2xT/2xV setup.
― grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 20:57 (fourteen years ago)
― Paul McCartney and Whigs (Phil D.), Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:54 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
Sometimes, yeah. But I generally prefer them for morse-code feedback effects, and psuedo-wah switching (tone all the way down on one pickup, all the way up on another).
― Funky Mustard (People It's Bad) (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 20:58 (fourteen years ago)
oh and for the duosonic mustang lovers out there the G&L SC-2 is kind of a dream come true
http://www.upfrontguitars.com/images/D/SC-2-Full.jpg
― The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 21:00 (fourteen years ago)
HOOS, seems like the way to go for you is to shop around for the best Tele your tax return can get you. Sounds like a lot of fun to me.
― grandavis, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 21:14 (fourteen years ago)
I'd get a Mexican Tele, live with it a little, then if you don't quite like it spend the money you saved on new electronics and new pick-ups. Alternatively, a Gretsch is a good way to get that P-90 sound without getting a Gibson. Or also the Casino, which is a nice guitar.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 21:47 (fourteen years ago)
jjusten - you remember Carvin stuff from the 80s, that mail order company? i heard some good things about their guitars, you have any experience w/them?
also hear they made good amps
― coo coo khal (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 21:49 (fourteen years ago)
OTMFM
I'll take early ASATs over any Fender Telecaster you can put up
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 22:27 (fourteen years ago)
If there's one thing that I've taken away from jjjusten, it's "buy a G&L" esp. if you like teles. I cannot wait til I have the disposable income to do this.
― kkvgz, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 23:22 (fourteen years ago)
Alternatively, a Gretsch is a good way to get that P-90 sound without getting a Gibson.
Yes! I've got a Gretsch G5120 and it gets a GREAT sound.
jjusten - you remember Carvin stuff from the 80s, that mail order company?
Of all people, ex-Monkee Peter Tork is an official endorser of the Carvin brand. I've seen him live and his gear always sounds terrific.
― Paul McCartney and Whigs (Phil D.), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 23:30 (fourteen years ago)
ill have to say kisses guitar
― brodie, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 00:57 (fourteen years ago)
all of them?
― VegemiteGrrl, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 01:06 (fourteen years ago)
i will have to say no
― The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 01:09 (fourteen years ago)
han's reichel's original full-fret acoustic guitar
― ogmor, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 01:43 (fourteen years ago)
G&L SC-2 = lovely.Dunno about their other guitars though.
― owenf, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 11:37 (fourteen years ago)
My guitar: http://www.drumza.com/images/GretschGuitarsBLEMG6192CountryClubSunburst.jpg
― Mark G, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 11:40 (fourteen years ago)
Since no-one else is doing it, I'll rep for uncool guitars. My main 6 string guitars are Suhrs (a custom classic and a pro series). I have a Gibson 339 for when I need a woody humbucker neck p/up sound, and it's also got something of a cooler vibe and I like the shorter-scale for some stuff. It's a nice guitar and I love it to death, but it's nowhere near the Suhrs in terms of playability, tuning stability or versatility. I have a beaten up old Tokai lawsuit Strat for situations when I sense inverse snobbery issues will make the Suhr's a problem. I'm probably 99% as good a player on the Tokai, and I'm probably the only person noticing the 1%, but it still irks me that it's necessary.
Bass-wise, similar. My main bass is a Lakland 55-94. Yep, modern, 5 string and not made by Fender - you can't get much uncooler than that, can you? Well, actually I can - I have a Yamaha Nathan East Signature in flamed turqoise blue, horrible late 80s vibe, utterly fantastic playing and sounding bass. And of course I have a Fender Jazz for when inverse snobbery etc.
I like guitars that are versatile, easy to play and sound good. They generally don't seem to be the same ones that people think are cool. I practically learned to play on a Les Paul, sold in times student poverty and still much missed, but don't want to deal with Fender and Gibson's quality control issues any more. I'm not enough of a niche player to shell out lots of money for a Gretch or Rickenbacker that will look great but get played a few times a year.
A lot of guys in name bands are playing high end guitars recording their albums and wearing beaten up Fenders and Gibsons for publicity shots and when they tour. I gather even Lou Reed is p= playing Suhrs in the studio. It's all bit silly.
― frankiemachine, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 11:42 (fourteen years ago)
Wow typos.
― frankiemachine, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 11:43 (fourteen years ago)
Yep, modern, 5 string and not made by Fender - you can't get much uncooler than that, can you? Well, actually I can - I have a Yamaha Nathan East Signature in flamed turqoise blue, horrible late 80s vibe, utterly fantastic playing and sounding bass.
I love you for this.
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 13:11 (fourteen years ago)
imo its the gibson es-335 no contest
OTM
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 15:37 (fourteen years ago)
i've always played a mexican jazz bass, got it on sale at guitar center for like $250 cuz no one liked sunburst finish and they were trying to clear it out at the time.
it's always been a good bass...i think the mexis are decent except they skimp a little on the hardware, esp the bridge...i got the bridge replaced with a Leo Quan Badass bridge for like i dunno $80 or so and it made ALL the difference, that is such a good aftermarket addition.
― coo coo khal (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 15:47 (fourteen years ago)
also i figured out the tone i wanted could be achieved by never changing my strings except for like once a year if that. i read some old nashville and reggae dudes never changed their bass strings
James Jamerson never once changed his strings.
― Funky Mustard (People It's Bad) (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:07 (fourteen years ago)
When I played bass, I wish I could've had two basses at all times. One with consistently brand new strings, and one with never-changed strings. You get a really bright, crisp tone one way, and a warm, deep tone the other.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:09 (fourteen years ago)
yeah i guess i just prefer the more deep woody type tone, i usually roll off my tone knob to around 6
everytime i change my strings i hate how it sounds for about 3 months
― coo coo khal (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:10 (fourteen years ago)
I used to change the strings on my Ric bass all the time, but never on my Fender P-bass.
― Paul McCartney and Whigs (Phil D.), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 16:13 (fourteen years ago)
Read that Richard Thompson goes through a set of strings every 30 minutes or so.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 17:24 (fourteen years ago)
xp A Rick bass isn't a Rick bass without bright-ass strings.
― Funky Mustard (People It's Bad) (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 17:26 (fourteen years ago)
my main bass is like the uncoolest thing ever but i love it.
mainly because i bought it new in uh 87? so we are good friends.
fender p-bass lyte in lipstick red w/matching headstock and gold hardware.
― The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 17:42 (fourteen years ago)
gold hardware?
*barf*
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 17:43 (fourteen years ago)
I think I've seen those...active electronics? Two (or maybe three) pickups? The sound is crazy on those, in a good way.
― Funky Mustard (People It's Bad) (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 17:45 (fourteen years ago)
i've never been too convinced about active pickups
― coo coo khal (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 17:46 (fourteen years ago)
mine is a prototype one, so it has the first test generation of the lace sensors. so the preamp is active but the pickups are passive. i am def not down with active pickups in gereal tho.
http://www.triplerguitar.com/store/media/images/product_detail/Image3065.jpg
so this^ with a matching headstock and a big brass gold-plated bridge.
― The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 17:59 (fourteen years ago)
woah John you still have that original bass??? awesomes
― I just like… I just have to say… (Starts crying) (DJP), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:00 (fourteen years ago)
i am resistant to change
― The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:01 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.beneteauguitars.com/guitr_pics/fan_fret/fan_frnt.jpg
― Stupid Prick Gets Chased by the Police and Loses His Slut Girlfriend (thebingo), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:01 (fourteen years ago)
the great thing is that people come in to buy guitars and often ask me what i play probably expecting some $$$$$ answer and i have to tell them that my main instruments are that and a mexican squier strat that i also have some unreasonable love for. then when they say "oh so you would recommend a fender then" and i say fuck no they're terrible they just walk away confused most of the time.
― The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:06 (fourteen years ago)
hey jj did u see my question about carvins upthread been super curious about that company's old stuff lately
― coo coo khal (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:18 (fourteen years ago)
carvin is totally solid and terribly boring stuff imo. the big problem is that 99% of music stores have a complete hatefuck on for them because they only sell direct, so if you need to get something fixed they will go out of their way to make it shitty for you (the usual dumb offense of wahhhhh why didnt you buy stuff from me instead). as a dude who doesnt give a shit about that stuff, ive done some guitar rewires on carvins and the peeps inside at the factory were super helpful and nice - dont feel quite so optimistic about the amps tho, and you dont want to have to ship an amp back to cali for service.
oh also imo their PA gear is pretty low grade and crappy. like not behringer crappy but still fairly dumb blunt and awful.
― The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:27 (fourteen years ago)
ok cool, didn't know much about them, you just don't see it that often
vito bratta from white lion and craig chaquico from starship used to be carvin endorsees
actually if i get a new six string i might go for one of those vintage looking ibanez ones you showed me at the store once
― coo coo khal (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:32 (fourteen years ago)
what about ernie ball music man, always thought the name was hilarious, and a guy i used to play with had the van halen guitar, remember it sounding really nice.
― mizzell, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:33 (fourteen years ago)
i just love this, as a sentence
― goole, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:46 (fourteen years ago)
Vicki Peterson, too. That's a Carvin in "Hazy Shade Of Winter."
― Funky Mustard (People It's Bad) (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:50 (fourteen years ago)
Cool. The bassist in my old band had a green one with a white pickguard/pickups, same electronics, same gold hardware.
― Funky Mustard (People It's Bad) (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:51 (fourteen years ago)
I much prefer active pickups on a bass. If I was using a passive bass regularly I'd need to use some sort of external pre-amp. I suppose it's all about what you're used to, but I can never seem to get the definition, presence and cut-through I want with a passive bass, no matter how much tweaking I do.
― frankiemachine, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:53 (fourteen years ago)
to be clear, im making a big distinction between active pickups and an active preamp here - i am down w/active preamps in basses - and this is a distinction that people get kinda confused by, which is why im bringing it up again.
― The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 19:01 (fourteen years ago)
yeah honestly a semi-hollow tele with a neck humbucker is, in my mind, the best thing ever― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:44 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:44 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark
u guys
on the craiglist i found a semihollow 72 thinline deluxe with a p90 and a humbucker in the neck
O_O
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 28 April 2011 07:51 (fourteen years ago)
otoh g&l
or the jtk4
fuck
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 28 April 2011 07:52 (fourteen years ago)
wait wait, so it is modded for a p90 in the bridge then?
confused
― The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Thursday, 28 April 2011 07:58 (fourteen years ago)
asking this question knowing full well that i was just going to sleep and prob will not have any clarifying answers until tomorrow.
also just fyi if a hoos tries out and wants a g&l email me, will hook a hoos up
― The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Thursday, 28 April 2011 08:00 (fourteen years ago)
oh i misread the ad & mistook the soapbar for a humbucker :/
2 p90s aint a joke tho
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 28 April 2011 08:01 (fourteen years ago)
hmmm? 2 p90s are not stock in a thinline so
huh
wanna email me a link/post it? maybe i can decipher
― The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Thursday, 28 April 2011 08:04 (fourteen years ago)
wait is it maybe this: http://www.altomusic.com/shop/Fender-Squier-Tele-Custom-P90-Antique-Blonde_pid103357.am
― The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Thursday, 28 April 2011 08:05 (fourteen years ago)
also so semihollow tele w/humbucker in neck - G&L tribute bluesboy (god i hate that name) worth looking at.
― The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Thursday, 28 April 2011 08:09 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.glguitars.com/instruments/TributeSeries/guitars/ASAT_Classic_BBSH/index.asp
Yeah, re my "active pickups" comment above, by bass with active p/ups I just mean an active bass. Sorry for any misleading impression. I'm not making a distinction between active pre-amp and active pick-ups. I assume my basses have active pre-amps rather than active pickups.
― frankiemachine, Thursday, 28 April 2011 10:46 (fourteen years ago)
jjj here is the ad
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/msg/2344661939.html
i'm not so hot on the cosmetics at all buuuuuut i am diggin it otherwise
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 28 April 2011 15:52 (fourteen years ago)
hmmm
body looks pretty cheap (i mean from the photos, the sunburst is a pretty fast transition and also i dont see the flame hes talking about), and i am not crazy about that price for a partocaster. i might try to nail him down on what kind of p90s they are - if they came w/the body i would proceed w/caution, because i keep looking at it and thinking ive seen it before on a kinda no name low rent made in china thing.
i would def play it before buying, theres a lot that can go wrong when you start slapping together bits from multiple guitars. but shit if it plays well and sounds good plugged in, who cares what its "worth".
― The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Thursday, 28 April 2011 16:09 (fourteen years ago)
where is the love for mosrite?
― m0stlyClean, Friday, 29 April 2011 03:34 (fourteen years ago)
man reading through this thread makes me realize I'm not crazy for owning like 5 cameras. ya'll just own guitars instead.
― br8080 (dayo), Friday, 29 April 2011 04:06 (fourteen years ago)
It's a totally comparable metric on the collector sickness scale (cameras vs. guitars).
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 29 April 2011 04:11 (fourteen years ago)
Do photographers value cameras that are beat to hell?
― grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 29 April 2011 07:43 (fourteen years ago)
oh hell yes - jim marshall's M4
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4129/4835042419_3edfb08791.jpg
you've probably seen quite a few of the photos that were taken with this thing...
― br8080 (dayo), Friday, 29 April 2011 09:00 (fourteen years ago)
is that camera Road Worn™ ?
― ur reading from a season in hell but u don't know what it's abt (missingNO), Friday, 29 April 2011 09:07 (fourteen years ago)
fender japan have some cool new guitars. hollow body Jaguar with f-hole !
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfwn1hph9d1qa21aao1_500.jpg
― ur reading from a season in hell but u don't know what it's abt (missingNO), Friday, 29 April 2011 09:09 (fourteen years ago)
^^^ WANT
― grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 29 April 2011 09:11 (fourteen years ago)
lol do guitars come pre-worn? :/
btw jim marshall is that guy
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_PR44LkYoxMM/S6uUVi8S4nI/AAAAAAAABnA/52ay1jafP3c/s1600/artwork_images_113308_150355_jim-marshall.jpg
― br8080 (dayo), Friday, 29 April 2011 09:17 (fourteen years ago)
sort of...stupid Fender "Road Worn" gimmick
― grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 29 April 2011 09:20 (fourteen years ago)
goes well with your distressed jeans
― br8080 (dayo), Friday, 29 April 2011 09:25 (fourteen years ago)
OMG WANT JAG U AR
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 29 April 2011 15:11 (fourteen years ago)
yeah the hollowbody jag is pretty swank
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 29 April 2011 15:13 (fourteen years ago)
honestly i have also always wanted a jaguar partially just so i could pronounce it british style
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 29 April 2011 15:18 (fourteen years ago)
Bit late to the Tele talk, but I recently got a Squier Tele Custom and it's fantastic. The neck on it is a dream, and plays just as well as a friend's Fender Tele Deluxe. I'm not 100% sure about the twin humbuckers yet - I'm tempted to go for the Howe Gelb set up eventually, with a single coil on the bridge, a P-90 just above it, and a humbucker on the neck. That's real nice.I'd love a proper 72 of course. Ben Chasny plays em, as does Haino from time to time - although last two times I saw him (at ATP and a couple of weeks ago with Brotzmann) he was rocking the SG again. Split the signal between a Fender Tweed and a bass amp. Awesome sounds.
― Count Palmiro Vicarion (Stew), Friday, 29 April 2011 15:38 (fourteen years ago)
Weird, I thought the weak-ass necks of SGs had turned Haino against them forever.
― Funky Mustard (People It's Bad) (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 29 April 2011 15:40 (fourteen years ago)
I recently got a Squier Tele Custom and it's fantastic.
this is v good to know!!
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 29 April 2011 15:41 (fourteen years ago)
A pal used to have the Squier Tele Custom II with P90s, but he broke it during a gig, the big numpty. He loved the sound of it and swears by P90s now. Either way, the neck is beaut and they look great.
― Count Palmiro Vicarion (Stew), Friday, 29 April 2011 16:56 (fourteen years ago)
idk if i've ever played a p90
what do they sound like?? i mean, are they strat single-coily or
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 29 April 2011 17:00 (fourteen years ago)
They're pretty versatile. And what the hell, another excuse to post this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0l8xRRDAOQ
― Funky Mustard (People It's Bad) (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 29 April 2011 17:24 (fourteen years ago)
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/msg/2353225547.html
― del griffith, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 16:54 (fourteen years ago)
Did a HOOS ever get his new guitar?
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 28 May 2011 01:18 (fourteen years ago)
not yet! my concentrated research took a backseat to some other things, but i've decided i'm gonna def go for a squire tele custom and somewhere down the line get myself a g&l
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 28 May 2011 01:25 (fourteen years ago)
this is the greatest guitar of all time dudeshttp://www.xigre.com/articles/music/guitars/20070530-Weird_guitar_Cinque.jpg
― thrash ballads (jdchurchill), Saturday, 28 May 2011 01:28 (fourteen years ago)
http://onmilwaukee.com/images/articles/tw/twvod011509/twvod011509_fullsize_story1.jpg
― thrash ballads (jdchurchill), Saturday, 28 May 2011 01:29 (fourteen years ago)
also i would echoo what others have said regarding SGs and Les Pauls
I suspect that it's my recessive Orange County genetics, but I've vastly preferred Fender over Gibsons - most of my fave guitarists use Fenders and oddly enough, my fave songs by dedicated Gibson players are ones where they use a Fender (Zeppelin's "In The Evening" - Verve's "The Sun, The Sea" are the two examples that come to mind)
Did own a SG for a long time. Sold it off and never regretted it.
― Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Saturday, 28 May 2011 01:45 (fourteen years ago)
The first guitar I ever owned is a bog standard '75 Telecaster - used it to record most everything I've done. "Favorite guitar" doesn't seem to adequately cover it.
― Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Saturday, 28 May 2011 01:47 (fourteen years ago)
Like the pick-ups in Strats, they can do a lot of things, depending on the guitarist, the amp and the EQ.
They deliver brash rock 'n' roll, great for biting powerful rhythm. They're great for twang, too. And you can do Brit invasion very nicely. I record with a Gibson Melody Maker, which has one bridge P-90, quite a bit. They let hum and electrical noise through which isn't the liability it may sound.
― Gorge, Saturday, 28 May 2011 04:55 (fourteen years ago)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0ng3aDRkSyU/S-rYXbPt5II/AAAAAAAADGw/3x-8_a3tU_M/s400/pikasso1.jpg
― bloomps! (there it is) (Pillbox), Saturday, 28 May 2011 05:09 (fourteen years ago)
http://cdn.mos.musicradar.com/images/Product%20News/Guitar/apr09/14-more-feature/present-arms-460-100-460-70.jpg
― unmetalled world (wk), Saturday, 28 May 2011 16:30 (fourteen years ago)
came across this thing in a shop three weeks ago, noticed the tag said it was custom-built for duane denison, and decided it was pretty much the coolest guitar i'd ever seen. the one in the shop was #1, apparently duane was unsatisfied with it and ended up taking #2. 100% aluminum semi-hollow body with a bigsby on there. a beaut! in his blog, david wm sims calls the body shape a cross between ES-335s and travis beans, and considering those are like my two favorite kinds of guitars, it's really no surprise i instantly fell in love with this thing.
http://www.davidwmsims.com/WPTooBigToFail/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/electricguitar21.jpg
― del griffith, Saturday, 28 May 2011 18:35 (fourteen years ago)
that is gorgeous!
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 28 May 2011 20:25 (fourteen years ago)
www.electricalguitarcompany.com is the maker, I think. very desirable.
― Snop Snitchin, Sunday, 29 May 2011 01:47 (fourteen years ago)