Thread for coordinating the order and timing of ILM ballot polls

Somebody claim first, somebody else claim next, etc. Put your quarters on the pool table.

I claim 3rd, beach boys

78th Wang Chung

546th Boo Radleys

So, the winner of the what artist, if any, is worth doing an ILM tracks poll? poll go first?

which one is going on right now? Manic Street Preachers?

Manics is going on right now. As noted, though, the big(?) 50s tracks poll which I opened for nominations a few weeks ago will head into the voting phase at the end of the month and probably roll out in mid-July. Probably wouldn't be a big deal if it goes head-to-head with a single artist poll, but definitely not more than one.

I think the 50s poll should be outside the continuity of these artist polls.

...I'm having too goddamn many opinions lately.

semi-interested in the 50s poll (though not informed enough to vote); not at all interested in Manics poll--sorry folks :(

I'm not joking about 3rd I don't really want to do it right this instant.

also we need a fixed time per poll. week? less?

is this thread only for artists, cause I was going to do a sort of esoteric year-one which I thought would fit kind of well into this, I know someone else wanted to do a genre one (though I think larger-scoped ones don't really belong here)

xp I suppose this thread is as good as any for working out a schedule

we could just create a new board for these and ppl could take them off their SNA page if they wanted to

can we call it I Love Metal?

lol

somebody just claim 1st already

be brave

I don't believe in being brave, ba ba ba ba

Ok, I'll do Pet Shop Boys

YES!!

g1

1. pet shop boys - billy dods
2. (???? mystery)
3. beach boys - iatee
4.

I'd say one a week is a good timespan? Gives enough time for votes to come in and for the countdown. Any more than that and you're running a low turnout risk I think.

Estimating my work schedule, I'm claiming #7: Led Zeppelin

Can I suggest that the polls are mixed up so that the subsequent act is in a totally different style/genre to the one before it.

e.g. Manics - PSB - (Zepellin?) - Beach Boys - Electronic act - Twee indie nonsense - token hip hop act

I think we need to create an Excel spreadsheet matrix

I agree with mixing them up.

I thought first was going to sd's poll winner?

that requires waiting

OK, I'll do the Beatles one.

Either at 2 or 4, depends what (??? mystery) means...

means it hadn't been claimed yet, so it's yours @ #2

Rocking

XTC can wait then, I'm busy atm anyway so

actually, having read the poll-troll thread ilx clearly hates fun so fuck it

that's the spirit! :)

The Beatles and XTC one after another wd def mix things up a bit

Beatles would be nice just to have an artist actually worth doing a poll for

Beatles...zzz. I mean, it would actually be fun because there are so many good songs, but it seems so played.

In their stead, I claim Madonna. Not sure where I am on the list—don't want #4—but I'll go later.

Actually, strike that. I don't want to handle a Madonna poll.

(My first choice of words was "I don't want to do Madonna", but there's really no good way to address that.)

Beatles would be nice just to have an artist actually worth doing a poll for

Worst Beatles song ever

1. pet shop boys - billy dods
2. Beatles - Mark G
3. beach boys - iatee
4. __________
5. __________
6. __________
7. Led Zeppelin - WmC

I can move Zep up to 5 or 6 if it fits the schedule better.

all of those should be great. anyone up to doing some producers or labels?

are we waiting for the Manics poll to finish before the PSB can begin?

Zep will be fun

I was going to wait until the polling closed in the Manic's thread, 22nd iirc and then start the PSB poll. The Manics reveal can go on while the PSB votes come in.

I Love Organised Music Polls

you are all so crazy

omg the Beach Boys one is gonna be impossible. looking forward to that one

hyped for the PSBs poll. expecting high placing for My Funny Uncle

Prince would be my no.1 choice for a future poll though i think, just because i like the discovery of rarities aspect, and with led zep and steely dan everyone who's a big fan sort of knows every track

true-ish, although Steely Dan has some great unreleased songs most people don't know that i'd be youtubing all over the place trying to drum up support for

what happens if someone starts a rogue ballot poll

eh like 5 xp

for the most part the dan aren't one of those 'treasure trove of unreleased stuff' bands. they have those early demos which aren't super interesting and then the gaucho stuff which is great but that's about it.

to me the interesting part of these threads isn't so much the 'which rarity might sneak in' as much as the enthusiastic discussion and dissection of 'why' these tracks are the best.

lol jordan

for the most part the dan aren't one of those 'treasure trove of unreleased stuff' bands. they have those early demos which aren't super interesting and then the gaucho stuff which is great but that's about it.

― iatee, Saturday, June 18, 2011 4:51 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

and "This All Too Mobile Home" and "Westside Story"!!! but yeah i see your point.

what happens if someone starts a rogue ballot poll

― J0rdan S., Saturday, June 18, 2011 8:49 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

autobanned.

banished to the cape.

forced to post on wdyll in underwear.

Is this the status as of now still?

1. pet shop boys - billy dods
2. Beatles - Mark G
3. beach boys - iatee
4. __________
5. __________
6. __________
7. Led Zeppelin - WmC

Because I bailed on the Madonna idea, but Guided By Voices keeps nagging at me and I'm finally giving in. So put me down for Guided By Voices at #6.

1. pet shop boys - billy dods
2. Beatles - Mark G
3. beach boys - iatee
4. __________
5. __________
6. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever
7. Led Zeppelin - WmC

the winner of some dude's poll can be zero I guess idk

I'm not in charge, somebody be in charge

Cool -- without objection, I'm going to bump LZ to 5.

1. pet shop boys - billy dods
2. Beatles - Mark G
3. beach boys - iatee
4. __________
5. Led Zeppelin - WmC
6. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever
7. __________

Something dancey/electronic, or a label poll at 4? Madonna would be great if anybody wants to take up the challenge.

When I started thinking about remixes, etc. the nightmare became vivid.

guh...I didn't think of that. votesplitters...

Votes are for the song, write-in/on for remixes...

So when is it kicking off for the PSB's?

Are we waiting on the end of the Manics one first? Fair enough.

Suggsting: some sort of generic poll-thread title, e.g.

ILX Tracks Poll No 1 : Pet Shop Boys

I like the uniformity in titling idea. Easier to search for in the future.

Any chance we could move either the Beatles or the Beach Boys back a bit? It's getting so canonical white dudes that there'll be minimal interest in doing anything else after we've trawled through everyone in Q magazine.

Well, everyone else has backed off, timewise.

There's the Manics one up at the mo, the Pavement one just finished, the MC Tunes is taking it's time, just like his second album, so the pace is fairly leisurely.

I hesitate to suggest, but the Beach Boys' "Smile" is coming out fairly soon (the single is out already), so...

(hopefully) BIG 50s decade trax poll coming sometime in July as well. Would hate for it to face one of these head to head, so I'll figure out what week that will roll out and let whomever is coordinating these know so a gap in the flow can be predetermined.

I mean, yeah I'd love someone to do a James Brown one, but do we collectively have the required knowledge to vote? I mean, I have the "Star Time" box which is pretty nice and all encompassing as these things go, but is that enough?

There are shitloads of James Brown fans on ILM, surely?

If we want to make it a little less white then a labels poll such as Motown, Stax or Trojan or a genre poll such as disco (1975-80) or Northern Soul would fit in. I think a Wu-Tang and its members poll would be good too.

Any chance we could move either the Beatles or the Beach Boys back a bit? It's getting so canonical white dudes that there'll be minimal interest in doing anything else after we've trawled through everyone in Q magazine.
--Matt DC

yeah you can move me to 9 or something

A Motown poll would be neato keen-o.

You can put me in to run Prince if you like - having fun doing the Manics one.

I guess Neil Young and Dylan are other ones that would be good due to the huge discogs, but i do agree on the less rock white dudes quota. Think a Jacksons one would be good - so Michael, Janet, Jackson 5, any family member.

I'd love to see a Stax or Motown poll. The problem with genre polls like "disco" is that they descend into a flamewar about what does or does not belong to the genre.

hmmm should I do a P-Funk poll

I dunno if I have the spreadsheetery skills/will to do this tbh

I was toying with doing a Disco one. Keep those wide open is the best way I say, and let the voters decide whether they're happy with a track as disco. It worked fine on the showcasing poll, except that The Cure sneaked into the top 5.

Oh man, my job is Excel-based so now I imagining formatting possibilities and vlookup potential.. but I'm only good for Belle & Sebastian, Pulp or Modest Mouse, I'm not nearly enough of a completist for most other bands now that Blur's been done.

Alright, I made an excel file that should be useful, hopefully.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZQBPGXI6

Basically it's got a sheet where you dump in the songs and their ranks, and a formula that compares rank to point value which is listed on a separate sheet. Then there are suggestions and examples for making a pivot table to corral the data, or a suggestion for doing it manually.

I hope it's useful! /nerd

^^if I didn't make it clear.. I'm really hoping someone will find it useful. This is why I chose computers over English ;)

I'll do Pulp at #4 if no one else objects? Understand if too close to Pulp/Manics/Boos. Mostly I just want to play with my Excel file now.

I hope it's useful! /nerd

― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, June 22, 2011 10:11 AM (6 minutes ago)

I'll say! I was dreading doing all that ciphering manually. Thank you!

No problem. I've got this thread bookmarked so if there are any glitches, let me know!

Neeto!

I love a good excel file. Been so jealous of jaymc.xls for so long!

:-)

Ok, I thought about this long and hard, and I really want to host a Kate Bush songs poll. Put me down. I'm down.

1. pet shop boys - billy dods
2. Beatles - Mark G
3. ________________
4. Pulp - Finefinemusic
5. Led Zeppelin - WmC
6. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever
7. Kate Bush - Le Bateau Ivre
8. _________________
9. beach boys - iatee

a Pet Shop Boys Poll! My brain is already hurting.

excited about the zep/GBV/KB succession. i think i could really get behind all three of those.

Oh shit wait. What is the timing of this? Because I'm getting married aug 20 and I feel like poll #4 will be mid august; I gotta swap out for a later spot, don't need added activities!!

You must delay the marriage!

congratulations, finefinemusic!

These shouldn't take more than a week per, imo. Depends on whether you think late July will be stressful enough already.

It might be; month end at work and tying up loose ends (I'm not getting a lot of help planning this stuff, haha) but I can happily do a poll after September 20 (late honeymoon).

Thanks for the good vibes!

HEY! HEY!!! Put me down for Prince ;-)

Pet Shop Boys are go!

OK, after reading the Madonna: Classic or Dud thread, I totally want to do Madonna.

(OK, I've totally wanted to do Madonna for a while, but what I mean is, I want to run the Madonna poll. So long as I don't get SB'd off the board first.)

someone do Aphex pls - I don't think I have time, much as I'd like to.

I can't do both Madonna *and* Aphex, much as I would love to.

Don't make me choose. I still never voted in that taking sides poll.

OK, I'll do Aphex, if someone else takes Madonna.

Because although I'm probably more *familiar* with (most of) Aphex's (released) (acknowledged) work, I'm actually more *curious* about the hidden bits of Madonna's work that I don't know.

.. which would make you a better Madonna host.

Judjing by the "Alphabet Faves" thread, there's a lot of Aphex fans. Unless it's just because no-one could think of another A Artist.

Yeah, but I think the Aphex poll would be easier to run. Lots of list-making nerds who will probably number and bulletpoint things so easily I don't have to do any work. While on the other hand, trying to squeeze a spreadsheet out of, fr'instance, the Lex is gonna be like pulling hen's teeth.

1. pet shop boys - billy dods
2. Beatles - Mark G
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP
4. ______________
5. Led Zeppelin - WmC
6. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever
7. Kate Bush - Le Bateau Ivre
8. _________________
9. beach boys - iatee
10. Pulp - Finefinemusic

Jamie, are you OK with Prince after the Beatles?

KDT, do you want spot #4 or #8 for whichever choice you make?

Thanks for adding me WmC!

Any approx idea when I the KB poll will commence? September?

Pls slot Madonna in for No. 4

Please can Aphex Twin go in at No. 8 because after his last interview, we know he's just dying to be underneath Kate Bush. FnarGiggleSnort.

Ha! Can we read that somewhere?

1. pet shop boys - billy dods
2. Beatles - Mark G
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP
4. Madonna - Karen D Tregaskin
5. Led Zeppelin - WmC
6. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever
7. Kate Bush - Le Bateau Ivre
8. Aphex Twin - Karen D Tregaskin
9. beach boys - iatee
10. Pulp - Finefinemusic

Any approx idea when I the KB poll will commence? September?

Dunno really, we'll have a better idea after the first couple have come and gone. My guess would be the 2nd half of August, but that's a very rough guess.

Shit, I revived a thread for ya, LBI but turns out it's on ILE:

I dreamed of kate bush

yay, thanks WmC! That seems much less stressful for me. :)

ty Kate :-)

yep up for that

1. pet shop boys - billy dods (Now in progress, voting closes July 2nd)
2. Beatles - Mark G
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP
4. Madonna - Karen D Tregaskin
5. Led Zeppelin - WmC
6. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever
7. Kate Bush - Le Bateau Ivre
8. Aphex Twin - Karen D Tregaskin
9. beach boys - iatee
10. Pulp - Finefinemusic

My own inclination for Zep was to allow 3 days for voting and 2 days for the reveal. Billy's 10-day vote window for PSB seems too long, but is my time frame too short?

You suggested 3 days right? I think that's too short. Needs to be a week, I think.

I was originally going to go for a week, but that would mean finishing on a Thursday/Friday and I didn't want to roll out the results over the weekend, hence my extending it a few days. I agree with LBI I think 3 days is too short.

Yeah, I'm coming around on that, 3 days is too short. Agreed on the weekday reveal as well. Obv everybody will wing it as needed for each ballot.

maybe it should be up to the person in charge of the poll...people have different schedules...but 1 week max?

I'm happy w/ how organized this ended up

imo long voting period (although more than a week isn't necessary) and brief reveal period is the way to go

^ Ignore this dude and his quest to rid the world of the unnecessary

eh if we're gonna do these i do think there are better and worse ways to execute them

id like to see a sonic youth poll like this

Sign up for #11!

okay someone put me down for a "Producers" poll. I might need some help with this lol

yeah can we make sure the non-artist polls stick to this too?

1. pet shop boys - billy dods (Now in progress, voting closes July 2nd)
2. Beatles - Mark G
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP
4. Madonna - Karen D Tregaskin
5. Led Zeppelin - WmC
6. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever
7. Kate Bush - Le Bateau Ivre
8. Aphex Twin - Karen D Tregaskin
9. beach boys - iatee
10. Pulp - Finefinemusic
11. "Producers" - Shakey Mo Collier

left it in quotes 'cause it'll mean different things to different voters obv

at this pace, it'll be a late summer thing

iatee, you mean like label polls/ballots?

yeah

My work schedule peaked last night for a few weeks; if anybody in #2-4 wants more time, I can trade with them, but no problem staying at #5 either.

Can I just say somethin... Beatles poll really needs some other kind of element to it in order for it to not be hugely boring. Why not include all solo & collaborative material? like if you wanted to you could vote for "Handle With Care." that kind of thing.

Or like "Badge."

Yes, I'm Your Angel?

I'd be interested in a solo Beatles poll more than a Beatles poll, which feels like it's been done to death.

solo would be pretty interesting...

totally

I'd prefer Beatles and solo-Beatles be separate, but whatever's cool.

Has this order been changed, and if so could a mod please let me know? If not could a mod please take a look at the rogue Madonna poll?

I'm on an iPhone so I can't make a thread but could a mod please delete or lock this thread as it's out of order and is likely to spoil the real Madonna poll when we do it?

Madonna Tracks Poll

Thanks.

If no one's going to enforce this, why bother doing it?

Forget it, I wash my hands of this.

KDT, would you PLEASE let people assess the situation before you go off!?

don't let the bastards grind you down Karen! mods need to step up tho. i've done what I can (sb)

Yeah, I very nearly sb'ed, which I have never done.

ah you changed your name but you are still so very Masonic Boom. FITE!

NO FITE

I'm not fighting, I'm just amused by the 'will you give us three minutes to react' post upthread.

o so apparently this is the thread where a handful of aspie rubes unilaterally decided what polls are (beatles - exciting!) and aren't (madonna - a girl!) allowed on ilx and ASSUMED that the rest of ilx (the ones w/ jobs, lives, etc) would know/care/heed what the handful decided. what a fucking wasteland. bye ilx!

bye

Who's going to do the Madonna poll now?

30 minutes is not 3 minutes, BTW and it would be really great if you could for once just keep the "OMG Masonic Boom!" jeering out of yet another thread.

The Madonna poll is after the Prince one.

The idea of scheduling was so we're not all doing polls at the same time.

Also, that the person having put their name against an artist is sort of comitting themselves to the work involved.

I know you know this, so hey.

i for one will miss having balls

1. pet shop boys - billy dods (results coming later today)
2. Beatles - Mark G (voting in progress)
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP
4. Madonna - Karen D Tregaskin
5. Led Zeppelin - WmC
6. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever
7. Kate Bush - Le Bateau Ivre
8. Aphex Twin - Karen D Tregaskin
9. beach boys - iatee
10. Pulp - Finefinemusic
11. "Producers" - Shakey Mo Collier

lol balls, valiant effort

Why did balls turn into a dick all of a sudden?

haha all of a sudden

just kidding james, i love you

Do I do it often? I only just realized with the stolen artwork stuff that you're her! You were so low key for a while I thought Kate had flounced off permanently. :D

Mind you, I don't know who balls is either. Heh.

james balls?

was he some sort of porn spy?

Can we please stick to coordinating the order and timing of ILM ballot polls in this thread.

ILM balls polls?
okay fine ;)

for this derail we're all out of order and are likely to spoil the REAL purpose of this thread when we do it

can't wait for the prince one!

what's an aspie rube?

The exact opposite of someone wanting to throw a spontaneous Madonna poll...

i thought it was some sort of asperger's related slur :(

Oh, it is.

:)

Aspie
An aspie is one who has Asperger's Syndrome, which is believed to be part of the autism spectrum. Aspies, while being quite gifted verbally, have social, emotional, and sensory integration difficulties, among others. Aspie is an affectionate term, and is not meant as a put down.
My son is an aspie, so he's not so great at making idle chit chat at parties, or even at being in crowds, but he can get us home from anywhere. He says he just consults the map in his brain.

That's the best balls has got? Practically a compliment!

So what's the 'rube' bit about then?

1. pet shop boys - billy dods (results coming later today)
2. Beatles - Mark G (voting in progress)

Voting in progress on your Beatles poll? i didn't see that! better go find it...

Official ILX Artist Tracks Poll : The Beatles (Next up: Prince)

thanks

I feel bad for balls. Seemed legitimately unaware of this thread as well as whether it was an actual authority over people being allowed to start a ballot poll. He didn't take Karen seriously off the bat and his thread gets locked pretty quick. Sucks if he truly was innocently trying to start the ballot for fun. Just giving the guy(?) a little sympathy is all. :)

yeah, righto.

He didn't seem legitimately unaware. Since the opening posts of the locked madonna poll thread it seemed pretty clear he didn't give a fuck and that he was only doing it to mock this sort of polls (?) Also he reposted the thread twice or thrice after it got locked but they got deleted by an admin.

Wtf would anyone do that for? That's a bit sad.

With Moka on that this was totally a trolling operation.

He didn't seem legitimately unaware. Since the opening posts of the locked madonna poll thread it seemed pretty clear he didn't give a fuck and that he was only doing it to mock this sort of polls (?)

what? this did not "seem pretty clear" to me at all. balls started an 80s ballot poll years ago (tho infamously never posted the results), he's not mocking them.

like, Evan 100% otm and you are 100% offtm

he might not have known that this thread existed but FFS the whole 'i have a real life and am spontaneous and you are sexist aspie rubes' bullshit is old and tired and unpleasant - good intentions ab initio don't excuse being a dick.

wasn't Karen down for doing this after the prince poll or has the schedule changed?

― prolego, lunes 4 de julio de 2011 14:59

it's happening now

― balls, lunes 4 de julio de 2011 15:02

ya rlly, this guy can go suck himself

Ah, I've just twigged who balls is.

balls started an 80s ballot poll years ago (tho infamously never posted the results), he's not mocking them.

and this is evidence for the defense?

the whole 'i have a real life and am spontaneous and you are sexist aspie rubes' bullshit is old and tired and true

ugh sorry but one dude who wants to run a ballot poll claiming he is less of an aspie rube than other people who want to run ballot polls (and have successfully socialised with others to work out an order) = haha fuck off

xp It's rendered less true by being posted on a message board tbh

wasn't Karen down for doing this after the prince poll or has the schedule changed?
― prolego, lunes 4 de julio de 2011 14:59

it's happening now

― balls, lunes 4 de julio de 2011 15:02

― ◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝ (Moka), Tuesday, July 5, 2011 5:20 AM (3 hours ago)

I took this as "schedule? what? anyway..." but I just tend to give the benefit of the doubt to people.

But I don't know anything about the deleted threads either, so I don't have all the info.

just a bit of fun, so let's be cool

^^

can i be put down for joni mitchell at the end of the current list?

I guess that read as upset? It isn't meant to sound comeback-y or anything, just in case anyone thought so.

also, is there a Guide to Running These Polls somewhere? like the best way to tabulate votes, etc?

Does Joni Mitchell have a big enough songbook to do a successful poll? I'm not arguing, just asking.

Yay, Joni! I'd LOVE to see her work polled. And she has quite a few (7-8?) albums, doesn't she? I am sure we could pick 20 songs from that and not end up with the album 'Hits'..

Mordy: this might help!
Alright, I made an excel file that should be useful, hopefully.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZQBPGXI6

Basically it's got a sheet where you dump in the songs and their ranks, and a formula that compares rank to point value which is listed on a separate sheet. Then there are suggestions and examples for making a pivot table to corral the data, or a suggestion for doing it manually.

I hope it's useful! /nerd

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― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, June 22, 2011 3:11 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

1. pet shop boys - billy dods (results coming later today)
2. Beatles - Mark G (voting in progress)
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP
4. Madonna - Karen D Tregaskin
5. Led Zeppelin - WmC
6. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever
7. Kate Bush - Le Bateau Ivre
8. Aphex Twin - Karen D Tregaskin
9. beach boys - iatee
10. Pulp - Finefinemusic
11. "Producers" - Shakey Mo Collier
12. Joni Mitchell - Mordy

Does Joni Mitchell have a big enough songbook to do a successful poll? I'm not arguing, just asking.

Yes, absolutely.

(she has about 20 albums)

Mordy - just put the deadline in the title, make the initial post clear and short so people don't have to work hard to find out what to do, and bump it a lot.

Yeah, they've all had fairly standard intros, with a bit of advice where things can be regarded as 'different' (e.g. Remixes, different versions, 'productions' with different artist credits but same 'production' ethic, etc..)

Does Joni Mitchell have a big enough songbook to do a successful poll? I'm not arguing, just asking.

1. COYOTE
2. COYOTE
3. COYOTE
4. HELP ME
5. YOU TURN ME ON (I'M A RADIO)
6. COYOTE
7. COYOTE
8. HELP ME
9. THE SONG PINHEAD GUNPOWDER COVERED
10. COYOTE

KDT has requested that she be taken off the list as the coordinator of the Madonna and Aphex Twin polls. If anyone wants to do either of those in their current spots in the order, please step up.

Note: this thread is for coordinating the order and timing of ILM ballot polls. No meta, please.

I'd love to do the Aphex poll, but like I say, I'd probably get sacked from work if I did.

What a baby.

I don't want to do either of those artists, but if noone else does either I could fill in week 4 to keep the schedule on track.

What artist would you want to run the poll for? I'm happy to move Zep up to the spot after Prince.

I'll do U2. I've been giving them some play recently, best take advantage before I'm sick of them.

Also, Beatles-Prince-Zep is quite a run of elite-of-the-elite acts, U2 would break that up a bit in a way that Bowie or Fleetwood Mac wouldn't. (slight intended, but it's only a slight slight)

As much as I'd like to jump Zeppelin to #4, I kind of agree with you.

1. pet shop boys - billy dods (results rollout in progress)
2. Beatles - Mark G (voting in progress)
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP
4. U2 - Ismael Klata
5. Led Zeppelin - WmC
6. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever
7. Kate Bush - Le Bateau Ivre
8. beach boys - iatee
9. Pulp - Finefinemusic
10. "Producers" - Shakey Mo Collier
11. Joni Mitchell - Mordy

any objections?

Yeah, everyone voting every week is too much.

I'll be glad when Zep and GBV roll around and I can take a break from working out ballots.

FFS - that's yeah as in 'we are of one mind', not as in 'I have an objection'. I'll shut up now.

by the time my turn rolls around I assume I will have completely forgotten about this

that's definitely be part of the fun

Shakey Mo in the off chance Pulp ends up coming up pre September 17th, could we switch? That's when I get back from my honeymoon. But I still wanna play!

can we get balls back to do the madonna poll then?

no I think he quit ilx forever cause didn't get to make a poll and also cause the site is filled with socially awkward people who care too much about polls

cause he

thread for discussing the clusterfuck that is coordinator the order and timing of ILM ballot polls

coordinating. doh. force of habit, coordinator was a past job title :P

I would be happy to front a Stevie Wonder poll sometime down the line.

2. Beatles - Mark G (voting in progress)
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP
4. U2 - Ismael Klata
5. Led Zeppelin - WmC
6. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever
7. Kate Bush - Le Bateau Ivre
8. beach boys - iatee
9. Pulp - Finefinemusic
10. "Producers" - Shakey Mo Collier
11. Joni Mitchell - Mordy
12. Stevie Wonder - Eric H.

Jamie, did you want to open up Prince voting while the Beatles results are happening, or are you going to wait until after Mark G's done?

Looking at the Zep discography...it's pretty small, only 84 songs, not counting various live performances as separate entries. I'll probably count down the top 40 over two days.

U2's about 200. I'm planning to countdown in one go, and probably a top 30 max.

maybe just do a top 20 for Zep? otherwise everything will place lol

40 may be too many, yeah...maybe top 25 in one day.

Considering opening up the Stevie poll to include stuff he just wrote, as well.

Probably won't need 20 votes either - it's not like they don't have a ton of filler.

was looking forward to the madonna one most after the psbs one ffs.

Volunteer for it! Lucky 13.

ooh i don't know, seems like an awful lot of hard work...

nah it's easy
step one: volunteer to do madonna poll
step two: get really angry, don't do poll after all, go out in a huff

considering that like half of Zep's discography are classic rock radio staples i wouldn't mind the countdown being as long as possible to give different stuff a chance to show up

agree

xp i was that close to doing it iatee but thanks to your dickery no more. i hope you're pleased with yourself.

(plus i'd prob rather do carl craig but wd get about 5 ballots)

jesus christ, iatee

Thanks, iatee, for convincing me that I made the right decision in withdrawing.

Because that kind of sniping and asshattery is ~exactly~ *why* I'm not running any polls.

Not exactly unfair though, is it?

Considering the shit that went down at me *before* I even withdrew, it was pretty obvious that no matter what you clusterfuckers throw at me now, it's still gonna be less than I would have had to deal with, if I had done it.

At least now, because I'm not committed to running a poll and giving the answers, I can tell the asshats to go fuck themselves, and walk away.

Now enough with the fucking meta and ad hominem shit already. It's boring, and it's clear that all you're doing is putting off other people who might have stepped in and taken up the polls instead.

Can I just add:

I've been doing the Beatles one, and basically the haters have kept away. (I'll forgive the dude who called me 'barking' or whatever..), even though your original hater from that time said I was something close to an 'aspie' for wanting to do The Beatles.

Having said that, after getting in nearly 60 individual ballots, going "OMG" and compiling the results only to find I'd got it completely wrong and had to start again....

Anyway, to the haters, It Was Fun! Can't handle a bunch of people enjoying it? Don't come.

Right, now to unveil Ticket2Ride...

Yeah can't say i've seen much AD HOMINEM HATIN in any of them so far?

ad feminam otoh

PSB poll was pretty much sweetness and light all the way, guess they're just more civilised than other fans.

Nobody ever hates in polls! I've done a couple, I get nothing but goodwill from them. Ideally you'll get some arguing and bad blood as the results appear, to give things an edge - but it's all bickering about taste, it'd be pretty bad form to have a go at the ringmaster.

The madonna usurper was the one guy I've seen who went way out of line but he got chased away en masse, it's kind of the opposite of how it's getting represented here.

^^ i just wanted to do carl craig but it won't work will it?

sooooo.... P-Funk? I dunno if I would wanna do it, I guess it's pretty far off in the future (hypothetically). Would include Funkadelic, Parliament, Bootsy's Rubber Band, Fred Wesley and the Horny Horns, Parlet, Brides of Funkenstein, George Clinton solo, plus other assorted solo recs (Fuzzy, Bernie, Sweat Band, Jerome Brailey, Quasar). I asked this before and no one answered, but there seems to be some interest on the Prince poll...

..first zapp album..

Large, varied discography, lots of fans on ILM -- I think it would be a good one!

I tried picking a spot in the voting order that concided with my current work lull, but I underestimated how slowly these would go. Looks like Zep may hit me at my next deadline time. Anybody in the 7-8-9 slots want to switch with me? Or, Ismael, I could go next unless you're ready to roll with U2.

yeah I'll trade my way back up

1. Pet Shop Boys - Billy Dods (finished)
2. Beatles - Mark G (finished)
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP (results currently rolling out)
4. U2 - Ismael Klata
5. Beach Boys - iatee
6. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever
7. Kate Bush - Le Bateau Ivre
8. Led Zeppelin - WmC
9. Pulp - Finefinemusic
10. "Producers" - Shakey Mo Collier
11. Joni Mitchell - Mordy
12. Stevie Wonder - Eric H.

Does anyone lower down the order want to swap with me? Looks like I'm due just about the time I'll be moving.

Actually, I do. The six spot should be perfect for me.

I am willing to trade #5 for a 1st round draft pick and a 3rd round draft pick

1. Pet Shop Boys - Billy Dods (finished)
2. Beatles - Mark G (finished)
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP (results currently rolling out)
4. U2 - Ismael Klata
5. Beach Boys - iatee
6. Led Zeppelin - WmC
7. Kate Bush - Le Bateau Ivre
8. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever
9. Pulp - Finefinemusic
10. "Producers" - Shakey Mo Collier
11. Joni Mitchell - Mordy
12. Stevie Wonder - Eric H.

Does that pop everybody's cork?

xp - what if that makes "What Have I Done To Deserve This?" finish in U2's top 10?

Only one way to find out! “20” – U2 TRACKS POLL (voting closes midday, Thursday 4 August) is now up and running.

lol at my typo -- I meant to say "the Beach Boys' top 10"

I want to run a Timbaland poll, so please put me in that running order.

1. Pet Shop Boys - Billy Dods (finished)
2. Beatles - Mark G (finished)
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP (results currently rolling out)
4. U2 - Ismael Klata (NOW VOTING, deadline Thursday)
5. Beach Boys - iatee
6. Led Zeppelin - WmC
7. Kate Bush - Le Bateau Ivre
8. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever
9. Pulp - Finefinemusic
10. "Producers" - Shakey Mo Collier
11. Joni Mitchell - Mordy
12. Stevie Wonder - Eric H.
13. Timbaland - some dude

Stevie Wonder's going to be a big-ass fun-ass argument.

really? i feel like there's not much controversy about his best/not best material compared to a lot of these other artists.

ah, maybe not. Most voters are probably not going to favor the work of one era as much as I'll favor the 60s singles.

come on, someone do madonna. is guided by voices week a joke?

having just heard arthur for the first time, and weeping with joy that i have such things left to discover, i nominate the kinks for a future poll--isn't 99% of their catalogue, at least the first ten years, like all buried treasure?

is guided by voices week a joke?

eff you. I know there are some people around here that are as serious about GBV as I am. I just hope they vote.

Kinks would be a great poll and a fun time.

Oh I'll defo vote in the GBV poll, JF, rest assured!

I'm going to doctor the results of the Stevie poll so that "Summer Soft" makes the top 10, so don't worry that there won't be controversy.

some dude, Eric H - switchsies? These ballots are going along quickly and my poll looks like it'll fall before September 17th, when I won't be available! (Wedding Aug 20 - honeymoon Sept 10-17!) :( I tried to push for as late as possible but it seems we are enthusiastically quick!

premature e-tabulation

Somebody sign up to do a Madonna poll at #9!

I can switch, sure.

Thank you Eric! If anyone else wants my slot for Madonna, that's cool too. I just got too much stuff to do in the next 5 weeks!

1. Pet Shop Boys - Billy Dods (finished)
2. Beatles - Mark G (finished)
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP (results currently rolling out)
4. U2 - Ismael Klata (NOW VOTING, deadline Thursday)
5. Beach Boys - iatee
6. Led Zeppelin - WmC
7. Kate Bush - Le Bateau Ivre
8. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever
9. Stevie Wonder - Eric H.
10. "Producers" - Shakey Mo Collier
11. Joni Mitchell - Mordy
12. Pulp - Finefinemusic
13. Timbaland - some dude

thanks WmC, Eric :)

and note that 'NOW VOTING', folks

Ismael, are you using the .xls posted up-thread to gather and process votes? I still need to figure out what the best way of doing that is, for my KB poll.

Hm, I dunno - I might just do it by hand, that worked fine on the football poll. I'm setting myself a quick turnaround target too, so learning a new system may not be wise.

I see, thanks. I can see myself doing it by hand too tbh.

is guided by voices week a joke?

eff you. I know there are some people around here that are as serious about GBV as I am. I just hope they vote.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, August 1, 2011 7:21 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Let me know when this is happening! I've got your back. Dang.

I encourage people giving the .xls a try! I tried my best to set it up so you just have to drag & drop a formula in one column :)

If the Zep poll goes smoothly, I'm going to sign on for Bob Dylan.

Do these have to be artist-centric? I wouldn't mind doing a grand, overall dance music poll somewhere down the line.

That would probably bring in a lot more ballots than a Stevie Wonder poll, too.

I'd love for someone to do a "Motown" poll or some other interesting label (Warp? Sub Pop? Stax?).

has anyone claimed james brown yet? if not, i would like to throw in for the godfather.

i also talked about doing a jungle/dnb poll on the idm thread and got some positive responses, but that might be enough of a niche thing that we don't need to include it in this running order? if so, though, let me know.

Do these have to be artist-centric? I wouldn't mind doing a grand, overall dance music poll somewhere down the line.

there was that all-time heavy metal poll, and the rap poll...

I think (but y'all correct me if I'm misreading this) that huge overarching themes/genres like dance music are free to tackle outside this lineup of smaller polls. For example, Armond Ratfucker is currently doing post-WWII jazz albums outside this thread's chronology. "Dance Music" sounds like a huge enough thing that it would need a period of nominations before the voting.

There was last year's dance/electronic poll that just died.

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Motown would be a great one.

I think i'll do a Jacksons one after James Brown - Michael, Janet, Jermaine, Jackson 5, Jacksons, any track by any configuration/family member - think it could be fun.

oh yeah, that'd be a good one.

Agreed. I'd like to try to set up another dance music poll, but I'll save that for some other time and stick with Stevie now.

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I'd quite like to go in the other direction and try doing a write-in for one album. Imagine the complaints. It'd need to be a hell of an album to pull it off though.

yeah get that U2 thing over with already, iatee has more important business to attend to!

Oh yeah bold now, I like that.

mulling the jb poll. along with singles, i wonder if it might be interesting to also open it up to a.) albums and b.) tracks featuring jb samples? b.) might be pushing it.

if i do open it to albums, star time is officially excluded.

Ismael, not sure what the "one album" post refers to--?

mulling the jb poll. along with singles, i wonder if it might be interesting to also open it up to a.) albums and b.) tracks featuring jb samples? b.) might be pushing it.

why would you want to restrict a James Brown poll to just the singles? that's crazy.

including sample-based songs is def crazy

haha well i meant "tracks," not "singles" per se. and because all the other polls have been limited to tracks!

may do a sub-poll of top five jb-sampling tracks.

xps I mean instead of polling a band, polling Exile On Main Street or Tusk or something. Ballots of five. NB I am NOT volunteering for this.

I don't understand how a poll would include both best album AND best single, like why would you mix those two results together

also everyone knows James Brown's best album is "The Payback"

You could specify the ballot to be top 20 (or whatever) tracks and top 5 (or whatever) albums, and the countdown could run down one then the other, sort of 2 polls for the price of one.

yeah i will give it some thought. if it's too unwieldy i'll just go straight tracks.

No one's doing Bowie yet?

What you see is what we got. You wanna enlist?

Surprised there's no Cure poll planned.

At three weeks a poll, I think your list now takes you into next summer. I'd be happy to sign up for either Neil Young or Yo La Tengo then--can't remember if they turned up in the suggestions thread or not. (My preference would be for Neil.)

These aren't taking three weeks per!

Okay...time slows down to a crawl when you're off. If your list grows to a point that leads into next summer (20? 25?), please put me down for a big Neil Young poll (like Prince, anything he ever wrote).

a week for voting and a week for results works fine i think

I'm doing my results in a day hopefully. Maybe have a week off before getting the next one running if this is a concern?

What you see is what we got. You wanna enlist?

― time to put it in hi geir (WmC), Tuesday, August 2, 2011 8:10 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

Not really practical at the moment, but if no one's done it in a couple of months when I have the time I'd be glad to.

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We definitely have more than a couple of months' worth lined up, so I went ahead and penciled you in.

I'm doing my results in a day hopefully.

^ not my poll, but I think that is way too fast! You need to leave nice big gaps in there for discussion, which imo is a lot more interesting than the results table at the end.

he means tabulating?

Voting closes for VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD FOR ILM POST 1945 BEST JAZZ ALBUMS POLL (Voting closes August 27) in just under 4 weeks. Would whoever is doing the following weeks poll mind waiting a week so it doesn't clash? if not then i suppose we will need to work round it somehow. Don't want to step on anyones shoes.

Oh right, phew! xp

I know it's just polling for the sake of polling, but I was thinking about an SST tracks poll. Think you'd need a billion people to participate to get enough overlap though.

ideally seandalai & i would like to roll out the results mon 29th August-thursday 1st sept.

xp

macdara & i would vote in an SST poll for sure. Albums and/or tracks.

the ones we ran a few years back did really well

way too fast!

Maybe ... but we've had excellent discussion on the voting thread already, and voting's only a week so it doesn't need dragging out imo. I'm only planning a top 20 or 30 anyway, if once I've added them up it looks like I should go higher then I'll maybe reconsider.

Would definitely vote in an SST poll.

I encourage people giving the .xls a try! I tried my best to set it up so you just have to drag & drop a formula in one column :)

― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, August 2, 2011 8:40 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

Oh I will! And it's very much appreciated! :-)

Basically, having never done a poll before, I will try the .xls first. If my lack of knowledge of how to work it does me in can always resort to pencil and paper :-)

I'm already on the hook for one (GBV), but someone should really put together a Van Halen one. Honestly, I don't know why it took me so long to think of it.

I agree that a one-day reveal for U2 is too fast.

It's too short to fully enjoy the 360° roll-out

gonna jump the gun a little bit w/ the beach boys voting cause I'm not sure when I'll have access to a laptop tomorrow

/ this weekend

i wanna do a paul simon one of these how many long do i have 2 wate

omg yes paul simon poll!!!

i will do nothing for a week in advance but "research" my ballot

11-12 weeks lamp tho you could probably trade up spots if you were crafty

honestly I think the lineup of polls we have now will take 6 months to go through

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have we had a Stones poll?

yes, stones--great idea (also kinks)

Stones and Kinks would both be good ones! Feel free to claim.

I'm having a little ballot fatigue, but every time I look at the list I get excited about the Producers poll.

i can't begin to get my head around the producers poll. maybe it'll make more sense to me once we do a nominations thread. feels like such an apples and oranges thing to compare how one producer works with these artists to how another works with other artists. maybe i'll throw up my hands and just vote for all my favorite hip hop beatmakers.

I think that one would go okay without a separate nominations thread -- just an extra long voting period and a lot of campaigning -- but that'll be Shakey Mo's call. I dunno, I can see the value in a noms thread as well.

I guess it would include engineers too...who was more important to the Beatles discography, George Martin or Geoff Emerick?

I'm totally stoked for the producers poll. Will claim the Stones though someone may have to remind me by the time it comes up!

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I think that one would go okay without a separate nominations thread -- just an extra long voting period and a lot of campaigning -- but that'll be Shakey Mo's call. I dunno, I can see the value in a noms thread as well.

I guess it would include engineers too...who was more important to the Beatles discography, George Martin or Geoff Emerick?

― L.P. Hovercraft (WmC), Wednesday, August 10, 2011 9:12 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

i think there'll almost HAVE to be a nominations thread just to hash out stuff like producers vs. engineers, artists who only produced themselves, people who are chiefly remixers, producers who've worked extensively as a team or individually, etc.

Still basically TS: George Martin vs Rick Rubin tho right?

vs. Phil Spector vs. Tom Dowd vs. Teo Macero -- it's not going to be as clear-cut as Martin/Rubin, I don't think!

Glen Ballard vs RZA

Tom Wilson, George Shadow Morton, David Briggs...That'll be a tough one to rein in to a manageable number.

I'll do the Kinks!

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That's a lot of old white men in a row, 16-19 -- if somebody signs up for Madonna or P-Funk or somesuch, there might be some schedule juggling for variety's sake, yeah?

Oh yes, Roger and C. Grisso! Thanks for doing those, can't wait

I will do a Depeche Mode poll.

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Ok, so I'm going to be unable to do the Kate Bush poll before September 10. Would someone from places 10/11/12/13 be so very kind to swap with me? Pretty please?

Bring 'producers' forward if possible imo, would be a nice break to a run of classic rock.

Excellent plan, if Shakey Mo agrees.

i volunteer to do either ABBA or the fall (whichever one people would find more interesting), am fine waiting until whenever

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i'm 13 so i can step in if nobody in line before me wants too -- Timbaland poll would serve the same function of throwing something different into the mix

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i don't know how involved you or anyone else is in setting the schedules for the specific things, but should i try to have the Timbaland poll start by/after or end by/after any particular dates? it seems like the voting widow for most of these is around a week but i'd love to open it to more like 2 weeks for people to sort through such a large and diffuse discography.

Your discretion. A longer polling period might work perfectly since Armond Ratfucker wants a window without one of these artist poll reveals where he can bring out the jazz album results.

ah good idea, i'll check w/ him to see what would work best

I would really love to run a Fleetwood Mac poll at some point.

Wow, that would be involved.

Indeed, but I love them enough to do it, and I think it would be a hugely participated-in and pretty heated one given the general level of love for them on the board...

the top 50 would really just be 3 albums w/ a few singles thrown in tho

I'd be willing to give a thorough listen to the pre-Lindsey/Stevie years, but I still can't guarantee that I wouldn't just send in my Tusk ranking. (j/k mostly) OK, you called it --

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Just a reminder that my sometime-in-2012 was meant to be July or August. I'm guessing you've pushed me back to 2013 by now.

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Here, have a prime number. I'm sure you'll be able to trade into a time slot that works for you.

someone do the Cure, please! i would but can't right now.

also New Order.

I'll do the Cure, whenever there's a slot.

Would somebody like to do Radiohead or The Chemical Brothers at some point?

Some dude, I kiss you! Thanks for helping out!

OO yes, someone do The Fall! and swap with Kate Bush / move up the queue!!!

i'm generally more intrigued by the idea of polling bands with lots of albums. i think the fall would work well in this regard, along with, say, sonic youth and possibly stereolab.

while i'm curious about a poll for the cure, they're one of those bands that at this stage i have really fixed views on, so i'd probably be less likely to be informed or enlightened by contrary viewpoints as to what their best songs might be.

I'm not objecting, but Led Zep? Do they have enough tracks?

I believe I counted 84-ish. The small discography will make it interesting, for sure!

ha, I was wondering for some time if there's a need for a RH poll! doing polls sure looks like fun, I might give it a try.

I'll have to trade with someone next summer. But it'll have to be with Paul Simon or the Kinks--I've got a prime number, and I do not plan on losing that.

Considering quitting ILX, so I should bow out of doing this to be safe.

;_;

eric, no!

i think i will do ABBA, just bcz they have a less, uh, unwieldy discography and the variation in results might be more interesting (assuming people vote for non-single tracks which they SHOULD)

I would hereby like to lay claim to a Who songs poll. And I even have a title: "Hope I die before I get POLLED."

So this would be in...about a year?

When I get to Neil, I'm taking a solemn oath here and now not to call it "Heart of Polled." (The Who title really works, though.)

Not quite a year, I'd say. xp

Will somebody step in to do the Stevie Wonder poll at its current position?

"Hope I die before I get POLLED."

*slow clap*

Does that mean mine'll have to be Common PeoPOLL?

also New Order.

― Bee OK, Tuesday, August 16, 2011 8:36 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark

I would love to see a New Order + Joy Division + side projects all covered in a single poll (i.e. NO + JD + The Other Two + Electronic + Revenge + Monaco + etc). I'm worried that my spreadsheet skills aren't up to snuff or else I'd volunteer to conduct the poll ...

was thinking an XTC one would be good, but maybe not enough voters to warrant it?

no one cares about P-Funk, obviously

Some dude, I kiss you! Thanks for helping out!

― I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:54 AM (13 hours ago) Bookmark

no prob!

Anyone else here already mentally dreaming up the cleverest pun on the word "POLL" for each band on the list?

("Hope I Die Before I Get Polled" is awesome BTW !!)

Gallows Poll
This poll World
Polled Me

I'd vote in an XTC poll!

Census Polling Over Time!

(I win!)

are we not doing a Steely Dan poll then?

everyone knows all the tracks, sure, but it would be interesting to see how they placed

People are going to volunteer to do polls now based entirely on the quality of the title pun. I suddenly want to start polling Kennedy assassination theories ("Behind the Grassy Poll") and Hemingway novels ("For Whom the Bell Polls"), even though I think I've only read one of them.

You could always start a Metallica poll with that last one, though "Master of Polling", "Le Poll Messiah" and "(Anesthesia) Polling Teeth" would also be acceptable.

I too would vote in an XTC poll. Might I suggest: "Train Running Low On Soul Poll"?

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I figure the advantages to an XTC poll are that the catalog is REALLY broad and deep plus we could finally settle which is better, early punk XTC or late period pastoral XTC

I'd be up for doing a Kraftwerk one if there was enough interest, but it'd have to be tacked on to the end of the list far off into next year.

Ah, stick me down for Chemical Brothers at some point in the distant future.

Do Kraftwerk and Chemical Bros. have large enough discographies?

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if there are enough tracks for a Led Zeppelin poll, there are enough tracks for a Chemical Brothers poll

I haven't totalled them up, but I'd guess Kraftwerk has about an equal number of songs to Led Zep, particularly if you include the three pre-fame albums (which I certainly intend to do). But, yeah, if there isn't enough interest I won't do one. I just thought they were an ILM beloved band that could produce some interesting results.

I initially thought of three bands I'd like to run polls for, but Neil Young and Guided by VOices were already taken. The third was Smashing Pumpkins, but a) I'm not sure that there would be enough voters and b) it would quickly be overrun with shit-talking haters.

i would vote in a kraftwerk poll

i would work in a pollkraft

Kanye's verse was edited out of the version played on Boston pop stations, I have no doubt this was true in other markets as well

― DALEKS OF GOD (DJP), Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:41 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

this fuckin guy

if there are enough tracks for a Led Zeppelin poll, there are enough tracks for a Chemical Brothers poll

― DALEKS OF GOD (DJP), Wednesday, August 17, 2011 6:04 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark

haha THIS is the post i meant to c&p, i was going to say something in response to that other post on another thread but i forgot

jussst like over the moon @ the idea that uve got this notepad doc open where you keep other ppl's ilx posts yr brewin up a response to

whereas classic worthwhile posts like:

i would work in a pollkraft

― Monstrous TumTum (Lamp), Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:19 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

just fukken pop out unfiltered onto ilx w/ hesitation

i don't, it was just the last thing i ctrl+c'd and i must have not hit the right key when i tried to ctrl+c'd the one after that. but keep on finding really inane little things about me hilaaarious in that condescending way you do, it's totally not douchey at all.

^ couldve used some time to percolate on the notepad

its not douchey at all

(i did not actually think you keep a notepad open of ilx posts btw it was just a 'hilaaarious' vision i had after that post and had no idea you would be so sensitive about it esp considering it was mostly an excuse to self-zing myself? xp)

i keep an actual notepad of ilx quotes and when i finally see my chance to strike with the zing i get all steelyeyed and cross out your posts with one strong red line

i have a notepad but its mainly got like to do lists and things in it

i keep mine next to the copy of my high school yearbook with the faces of all the popular kids exed out

I hope you brought that yearbook to the reunion

Put me down for 27. Saint Etienne and sometime later 4AD.

Is someone doing MBV?

Alright, since no one else stepped up, I'll pull back in for Stevie.

yay Eric!

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jvc, I went ahead and gave you a number; you can trade up or down as needed.

No MBV yet, WYSIWYG.

Sometime in the future: King Crimson - WmC

The numbering on that list is bothering me slightly. We had Blur, Pavement and Manic Street Preachers polls before PSBs, MC Tunes is still rolling out, and then REM got some in days of yore. Where's their recognition?

How about this:

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Hall of Fame: Blur, Pavement, Manic Street Preachers, REM, Pet Shop Boys, Prince, U2

What is MC Tunes and what thread is it rolling out in?

Renumbering as we go is a bit of a pain in the ass, but it also give a better idea of when a poll is coming up.

Maybe leave it as it was, I'm feeling like a dick already.

Has there ever been a covers poll?

like...a poll of album covers? or every cover song ever?

cover songs!

like, every cover song ever? that seems maybe TOO broad

80% of all recorded music...go!

impossibly broad category -- trying to figure out the best cover of 'Take the A Train' alone would break the internet

best version I should say

Hey, someone should do a Duke Ellington tracks poll!
(kidding...an albums poll alone would be beyond daunting)

I woke in the night screaming "A Fall Ballot??? That's gonna be IMPOSSIBLE!!!"

Can someone start work on a spotify list for the Timbaland poll please? I'm going to need help for that one.

This may sound stupid...but how do voters know when these polls go up? Is there any way of knowing beyond just keeping an eye out for it appearing?

Can someone start work on a spotify list for the Timbaland poll please? I'm going to need help for that one.

― Ismael Klata, Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:43 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark

when i start the poll thread i'm gonna strongly encourage people campaigning for more obscure tracks and posting youtubes, i don't know anything about spotify but if people want to do something w/ that that'd be great

spotify playlists would be nice! i'd check out a timbaland one

This may sound stupid...but how do voters know when these polls go up? Is there any way of knowing beyond just keeping an eye out for it appearing?

― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:19 PM (1 hour ago)

That's been about the size of it so far. I don't know about the other pollrunners, but I don't want a really regimented schedule for these things -- nothing would suck the fun out of it quicker imo. I think they've been running about 10 days each? Timbaland is going to take a little longer, the Producers poll is probably going to take a little longer (especially if there's a nominations thread for that one). It's just a matter of keeping an eye on ILM New Answers or Site New Answers.

I have a feeling I'm going to have to constantly promote the GBV poll just to get those inclined to vote in it to actually do so.

oh I thought the practice was a week each. while there doesn't have to be strict limits, there should be an upper limit so someone doesn't hold up the queue.

I mean even w/ a week each anyone signing up now is gonna be doing theirs...nearly half a year from now?

I guess we're kind of figuring this all out as we go. I definitely held off starting the LZ voting because I'm up to my gizzard in a work project (chained to my desk today from 9 a.m. this morning until 15 minutes ago) and couldn't start start rolling out results until Tuesday. I assume everybody's going to tweak the schedule to fit Real Life rather than the other way around.

i don't think there's anything wrong with a little traffic jam, i mean at a certain point we ARE going to run out of artists that are really worth doing these kinds of polls for, probably sooner than you think. what's the rush?

sez the guy doing his now and the guy scheduled next

I think it's true that we'll run out of artists one day but I just know that some people get lazy w/ stuff and it's not unrealistic that someone might end up dragging theirs out 3+ weeks

::shrugs:: i'm speaking more from the perspective of someone who hates going "man i would've actually voted in that if the window had been a little bigger" than someone who's really dying to run a poll now now now...i mean there are a couple others i might try to do later and i don't care if i get on a waiting list for a year to do it. (xpost)

and I'd be annoyed if I were the one waiting half a year and someone was sitting on his hands. (but I'm not, so,)

3 weeks of voting would be better than 4 days and then a results thread where something wins with 10 votes and a bunch of people are going "man i wish i'd gotten around to voting" if you ask me

ime which may not be universal, got a ton of ballots the first few days from hardcore fans -> lazy lag period -> then all the last minute votes.

ton of ballots the first few days from hardcore fans -> lazy lag period -> then all the last minute votes

All email polls I've ever conducted on here have followed this path of activity pretty much.

That's been about the size of it so far. I don't know about the other pollrunners, but I don't want a really regimented schedule for these things -- nothing would suck the fun out of it quicker imo. I think they've been running about 10 days each? Timbaland is going to take a little longer, the Producers poll is probably going to take a little longer (especially if there's a nominations thread for that one). It's just a matter of keeping an eye on ILM New Answers or Site New Answers.

I hear that -- but I worry I may miss it anyway just bc of silly life things taking over (and sometimes because we outsmart ourselves with poll titles, myself included). Can we use this thread (or another) to announce that the polls have started? That way we can bookmark something and get a reminder that it's up.

I think it's true that we'll run out of artists one day

This just will not happen. Jefferson Airplane, America, Cameo, the Cowsills, Nurse with Wound, Glass Tiger, Chad & Jeremy, Morbid Angel--there's just so many bands that should be polled.

I'm on the edge of my seat for the Glass Tiger poll!

i would do a byrds one but i feel like that would have less interest than the beach boys and tbh i thought the bb one could've used at least 10 more ballots. when you start the countdown off with songs that only got 3-4 votes, i feel that there isn't enough interest to justify in a way.

The answer to that is to start higher up the countdown, but for understandable reasons this rarely happens - there's always something just outside the top 30/40/50 that you think will set things off or just want to give a bit of attention to. As long as things don't drag as a result it's not a problem - the metal 300s were a bit much in that regard.

ton of ballots the first few days from hardcore fans -> lazy lag period -> then all the last minute votes

All email polls I've ever conducted on here have followed this path of activity pretty much.

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 21 August 2011 03:22 (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

The Beatles one was pretty much standard distribution curve..

i.e. a few at first, raising to ten a day, then down again to three on the last day.

i would do a byrds one but i feel like that would have less interest than the beach boys and tbh i thought the bb one could've used at least 10 more ballots. when you start the countdown off with songs that only got 3-4 votes, i feel that there isn't enough interest to justify in a way.

I'd definitely vote in a Byrds poll, but am not sure what to do with the likes of Joni Mitchell or Stevie Wonder, being familiar with about 100 songs from each but that means I still don't know half their discography, much less obscurities not on the main albums or compilations. I'm not intimately familiar with their music the way I am with the Beatles or Led Zep or the Beach Boys, the first two where I know the entirety of their official output, the latter where know nearly all the significant tracks and many worthy obscurities.

i would do a byrds one but i feel like that would have less interest than the beach boys and tbh i thought the bb one could've used at least 10 more ballots. when you start the countdown off with songs that only got 3-4 votes, i feel that there isn't enough interest to justify in a way.

― buzza, Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:17 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

part of the reason this happened is that the bb votes were distributed in a manner that's likely to be different from your average poll. the top 9 songs each had at least 50% of people voting for them (#1 had 75% of people) and that trend only got stronger as more ballots came in. at the same time, there were about 170 total songs that received votes - tons of vote splitting at the bottom half.

when I included 3 more ballots in the numbers, not much changed - even with 10 more, I'm pretty sure the countdown would be starting off with things that got 3-4 votes.

that's to say, overall almost half of 'the average ballot' made the top ten - which left relatively few votes/points for the rest of the poll. that didn't happen to the same extent w/ U2 cause there isn't as much agreement about the very best songs. I'm not sure that would happen with the byrds. (would vote btw)

last few days for you all to send your ballot in for VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD FOR ILM POST 1945 BEST JAZZ ALBUMS POLL (Voting closes August 27)

small or huge ballots (upto 100) all welcome. Ranked ,unranked or split (ie top 10 or top 20 etc and the rest unranked)

All ballots received will greatly help make a good list.

Dammit, go on and put me down for Hüsker Dü already.

when I included 3 more ballots in the numbers, not much changed - even with 10 more, I'm pretty sure the countdown would be starting off with things that got 3-4 votes.

yeah this was kind of inevitable for a band with TWENTY-THREE studio albums that people were pulling tracks from

I reiterate that it would be awesome if people posted here when the ballots are going out -- that way you won't miss a poll bc you were on vacation and didn't read through three days of stuff or whatever...

That list should have the winning tracks appended as they finish (so anyone who disagrees can put their name down for a rerun)

I'm not convinced I want to do the Chemical Brothers after all. It's not a prospect that's exciting me at the moment. But I'm not pulling out just yet, there's still time for me to either find some enthusiasm or ditch it.

When the time comes you can just switch to Manilow instead

ps time 4 timba voting

Johnny Fever, if you stick in side projects with GBV poll then you should also stick in John Shough

I found that a week to vote, the weekend to compile and then a week reveal worked pretty well for Prince and giving it 2 weeks spreads the separate polls out a bit more

Can someone put me down for Bruce Springsteen at No. 30? That would be grrrrrreat

I reiterate that it would be awesome if people posted here when the ballots are going out -- that way you won't miss a poll bc you were on vacation and didn't read through three days of stuff or whatever...

This is a good idea, I'll try to remember to bump this when things happen.

yeah he has problems remembering to do his jazz ballot ;)

shaddap kid

>> i would do a byrds one but i feel like that would have less interest than the beach boys and tbh i thought the bb one could've used at least 10 more ballots. when you start the countdown off with songs that only got 3-4 votes, i feel that there isn't enough interest to justify in a way.

― buzza, Sunday, August 21, 2011 2:17 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

> part of the reason this happened is that the bb votes were distributed in a manner that's likely to be different from your average poll. the top 9 songs each had at least 50% of people voting for them (#1 had 75% of people) and that trend only got stronger as more ballots came in. at the same time, there were about 170 total songs that received votes - tons of vote splitting at the bottom half.

when I included 3 more ballots in the numbers, not much changed - even with 10 more, I'm pretty sure the countdown would be starting off with things that got 3-4 votes.

― iatee, Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:26 AM (3 days ago)

Yeah there's not much mileage in being a Zep obscurist - a ballot filled with the chaff from Presence and Coda is not going to impress anyone or be fun to listen to.

it's interesting how the vote breakdown sometimes tells you more about the band than the placing

would there be enough enthusiasm for a 90's r'n'b singles poll? Stuff like Too Close, Pony and Return Of The Mack need a serious poll

Would be one of the only ones I'd be interested in (out of whats left on the list anyway) ^

Yes, make that one happen.

Definitely. It would need a full nominations process though. We ought to leave gaps in the artist poll rollout for bigger genre-type polls to happen, else it all gets too much.

where's the Timbaland poll?

Maybe we're pausing while the jazz poll happens? Otherwise, Kerr will whine.

make a change from you!

anyway some dude offered to wait a week so we do the jazz poll, which was very nice of him.

btw, I didn't offer myself to run that 90's r'n'b singles poll. just an idea.

What's a good way to start listening to Timbaland? I don't know anything about this guy.

Can someone start work on a spotify list for the Timbaland poll please? I'm going to need help for that one.

― Ismael Klata, Saturday, August 20, 2011 1:43 PM (1 week ago)

I was hoping someone might come up with the goods here. I'd be very grateful!

yeah Timbaland poll will get started this week.

btw i'm totally fine having ballots e-mailed to me and tabulating them by hand, but if anyone has any fancy spreadsheet things or a voting site they want to offer for use for the Timbaland poll that would be cool, too.

Finefinemusic posted a link upthread to a handy spreadsheet she made for these polls -- Thread for coordinating the order and timing of ILM ballot polls

I don't know .xls's from elbows and it took me a while to figure out, but it was useful for Zep. Then I transferred all the numbers to a Google Docs spreadsheet so everybody could study them after the poll was done.

cool! thanks finefinemusic and wmc, this might be really useful

Glad to help! Sorry, I'm such an Excel geek it's hard for me to make things easy for beginners - I did my best! I am here if you have questions; the thread is bookmarked so I should see it.

it's been a long time, I shouldn't have left you without a dope poll to vote to:

TIMBALAND TRACKS POLL (voting deadling Saturday, September 10th midnight EST)

looking forward to the Madonna poll!

.. er i haven't missed this have i??

You didn't miss it -- the poster who initially signed up for it withdrew. Feel free to volunteer!

(the list in progress)

I'm having second thoughts about Crimson.

glad i haven't missed it. i'm still too narked by the outcome of the only ilx poll i ever made (Girls Aloud's best album) to even consider another!

(the list in progress)

Dropping Crimson, adding Miles

hah, good luck with that one

you should have done a spiritual hat jazz poll

I'm adding years to my life expectancy by ignoring that crap and sticking with the results.

it's not an ilm poll without a clusterfuck on spiritual hats

o rly

How popular does an artist or band have to be to warrant a ballot poll? I mean, I'd so be up for a Tim Hardin poll, but I don't think there's a large enough fan base to get alot of ballots (which is tragic, incidentally). So I'm thinking who's left that I'd consider:

The Byrds (probably my first choice)
Parliament/Funkadelic/George Clinton
Frank Sinatra
The Velvet Underground
Fairport Convention
The Yardbirds
The Style Council

Which of those is everyone here most into for a ballot poll?

I'd love to see Sinatra, then Funkadelic, because they're two blindfolds that I think'd be worth investigating. But I wouldn't have much to contribute I guess.

blindfolds = blindspots, ffs, autocorrect going to town these days

Needs a combo of a. big enough discography and b. big enough ILX fan contingent, imo. I think Led Zeppelin (86 songs roughly) was close to the smallest discog that would be workable -- the poll was super successful because there were so many voters.

I think P-Funk would be very successful. VU has the voters but maybe not the discog. Sinatra has the discog but probably not the voters. Byrds would do ok, Fairport and Yardbirds seem iffy, Style Council would work if you expanded it to Jam/SC/Weller.

Why is P-Funk a blindspot?

Can I request to have my poll moved down a bit on the list? I see that it's coming up and right now I don't feel like I have the time to dedicate the appropriate energy to it.

vu would be a good one. i imagine a lot of great discussion in that one

obv id do a pfunk one if seandalai does the tallying up

How far down you want to drop, Mordy?

25?

clemenza loses his prime number OH NOES

I'd love to do Fairport but it could get complicated (and huge if I included side projects and solo albums).

Sinatra probably has lots of fans amongst ILXers but few that have heard anything approaching the entire discography (which is huge - we're talking half the 20th century here). Myself I'm very sketchy on the early Harry James/Tommy Dorsey era or anything after 1973.

I guess I'll leave P-Funk and VU to others since I'm sure there's plenty willing to take those on.

BTW does the Jacksons poll include MJ and others solo or just J5/Jacksons?

I believe Jamie's plan is to include Michael, Janet, J5, everything with the Jackson name on it.

Cool! That means I can vote for LaToya!

Oh, one other I'd consider doing: Van Morrison. Definitely meets the big discography/big ILX fan contingent criteria, as well as overall significance

There are some polls coming up that involve discographies smaller than Zep, so I may be proven wrong! I pull all my opinions hot and fresh from dark places best not pondered too deeply.

Would I vote on the following:

The Byrds (probably my first choice) - probably
Parliament/Funkadelic/George Clinton - probably
Frank Sinatra - no
The Velvet Underground - yes
Fairport Convention - probably not, a Richard Thompson/Fairports poll perhaps.
The Yardbirds - no
The Style Council - probably not, but would vote in a Jam/Style Council/Weller poll

What I'd like to see someone do, and if no one else does it I may swap with my Saint Etienne poll, is a poll of favourite vocalists. Primarily because I've no idea how to call it.

how about a Radiohead poll? I'm sure they have a discography that's large enough (about 100 tracks, not including solo recordings) and they're popular on ILM. but I guess such poll would gather more trolling than others, I don't know?

a paul weller career poll would be interesting

A quick search found 93 officially released Jeff Buckley songs (including covers). Bigger official discography than Led Zeppelin! But which track would take the #1 spot?

I considered a Fairport-and-related poll too, but if I include solo Richard Thompson, it would seem right to also include solo Sandy Denny and probably Iain Matthews, alot of stuff that probably few of us have heard all of. Richard Thompson probably warrants his own poll (solo and with Linda that is), or perhaps only including the Fairport tracks that he wrote or sung on.

Yeah a Paul Weller all-inclusive poll would be fun, albeit one that wouldn't draw many US voters.

various xps:

• P-Funk is a blindspot for me, I mean. Beach Boys were the same - I tried on that poll, honest, but they're just never going to happen for me I'm afraid. The Clash used to be like that too (would be another good 'un btw)
• Van Morrison, yup. Didn't think he had the fanbase here though.
• big discographies not necessary I don't think. In fact in some ways a short one might be better. Don't overdo the rundown though!
• Radiohead don't really need the rediscovery imo, not yet

• Vocalists, great idea! I suggested a 'frontmen' (or suitably gender-neutral term) one a while back, to some scorn.

big discographies not necessary I don't think. In fact in some ways a short one might be better. Don't overdo the rundown though!

If we have a producers poll, certainly we can have vocalists! Next up: drummers

tempted to sign up to run a Radiohead poll just for a big hyped run-up to another In Rainbows joke thread

Where are all these Jeff Buckley songs released? I've accumulated a ton of his stuff at various times, but I'd assumed it was all bootl3g.

P-Funk is a big blind spot for me too, but one where I would try to do some listening/self-educating and turn in a ballot.

If we have a producers poll, certainly we can have vocalists! Next up: drummers

lol, remember those dumb bracketed deathmatch polls I did?

Where are all these Jeff Buckley songs released? I've accumulated a ton of his stuff at various times, but I'd assumed it was all bootl3g.

About five live CDs, the extended 20-song Sin-e deluxe edition, Grace of course (including "Forget Her" that was axed at the last minute) and Sketches, a few guest appearances on others' albums i.e. the Jazz Passengers and John Zorn, the Songs to No One collaboration w/Gary Lucas

extended 20-song Sin-e deluxe edition

Good lord! Wasn't this originally a four-track EP?!

yes! And I erred about it being 20 songs - it's actually 37, including three with video clips!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_Sin-é_(Legacy_Edition)

Let's try that link again:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_at_Sin-%C3%A9_%28Legacy_Edition%29

Haha wow - can't wait to see the 20th anniversary collectors' edition.

Sonic Youth is still on the table btw, and I have ZERO idea how that would pan out actually.

well the jazz poll is over, thanks for waiting some dude. Hope you have a successful poll!

I'll change my one from Chemical Brothers to Radiohead

no prob, ASR, happy to time so that nobody's toes are stepped on!

i definitely want to run a Sonic Youth poll at some point, i just don't want to be greedy and have 2 on the queue at once and it felt more exciting to get the Timbaland poll going as kind of a change of pace from what's been done so far.

Wu-Tang/affiliated?

1. Pet Shop Boys - Billy Dods (finished)
2. Beatles - Mark G (finished)
3. Prince - Jamie_ATP (finished)
4. U2 - Ismael Klata (finished)
5. Beach Boys - iatee (finished)
6. Led Zeppelin - WmC (finished)
7. Timbaland - some dude (last few hours to vote, get 'em in)
8. Guided By Voices - Johnny Fever
9. Stevie Wonder - Eric H.
10. "Producers" - Shakey Mo Collier
11. Pulp - Finefinemusic
12. Kate Bush - Le Bateau Ivre
13. James Brown - strongo
14. Jacksons - Jamie_ATP
15. David Bowie - chap
16. Paul Simon - Lamp
17. Rolling Stones - rogermexico
18. The Kinks - C. Grisso/McCain
19. Depeche Mode - crüt
20. ABBA - donna rouge
21. Fleetwood Mac - Clarke B.
22. Neil Young - clemenza
23. The Cure - nate woolls
24. The Who - Tarfumes the Escape Goat
25. Joni Mitchell - Mordy
26. Radiohead - Nasty, Brutish & Short
27. Saint Etienne - Billy Dods
28. Kraftwerk - jon via chi
29. Hüsker Dü - Pleasant Plains
30. Bruce Springsteen - Jamie_ATP
31. Miles Davis - WmC

excited about Radiohead, even months away

dammit, I thought my mentioning of RH poll would be taken into account wanting to do it myself :x

okay I'm up for a second round half a year from now

- velvet underground solo careers

V79 - you can take it over if you want

Sorry! I took both of those posts as interest in a Radiohead poll but not a commitment to conducting it. Maybe NB&S will work something out with you.

xpost

iatee, do you mean VU plus VU solo careers, or just solo stuff by VU members?

dang, another xpost

just solo stuff

xpost: that's splendid, NB&S! thank youuu. so please sign me up for that poll!

NB&S, do you want to keep spot #26 and go back to Chemical Bros.?

No, give my spot to V79. I wasn't feeling much enthusiasm for the Chemical Brothers idea.

god. is NO ONE going to do this madonna poll then? sign me up for it, it's fucking ages away after all.

(the list in progress)

Commitment! That's all it takes.

ooh that was quick. if i get 10 messages within the next week approving a carl craig thread then i may change my mind. that's not gonna happen though is it?

thread = poll obv. btw. need to free up the week beginning 5/3/12...

What is 'Carl Craig'?

just two random christian names i thought of.

Is there gonna be side projects and solo stuff in the GBV poll?

johnny fever says it will be coffeeshop friendly

I'll do a "The Fall" poll/ballot.

That should be interesting..

yay!

You say yay, I say "What, this will take until 2013 at this rate!"

7. Timbaland - some dude (if you were gonna do it, you woulda done it - results start tomorrow)

haha to be clear, i am being lenient on late ballots and am holding out for at least one more, and will more likely start on tuesday

ah ok, correction noted -- I'm glad you're getting a good response!

yeah total's gonna be around 35 voters -- how does that rank w/ the other artist poll turnouts?

Zep's final count was 66, Pavement was around 58, but I think U2 and Beach Boys were 40ish? My impression is that it takes more dedicated listening to stay current and educated with hip-hop than it does with older canonical artists whose discogs are kinda imprinted in everybody's head to start with (note: I'm probably talking shit here), so 35 seems like a really good turnout to me.

Jazz poll got 39, which is at least double what I expected

oh yeah i never even hoped to compete w/ those big rock gods but the Timbaland turnout REALLY exceeded my expectations, especially since that poll of the whole genre of hip hop only got like 30 ballots iirc

as much as i love pavement,it seems funny calling them rock gods :)

oh i missed them in that post otherwise i would've said 'gods' in scarequotes

I wonder how many different people have voted in all these. I know there's been some overlap...

Hi, Beatles count was 58.

58 Beatles fans can't be wrong.

That reminds me, Elvis Presley would be a good 'un to do.

Haven't looked over entire thread, but been thinking that the following artists would be apropos:
Autechre (lol jk)
PJ Harvey
Cocteau Twins

Ok, stick me down for Pj harvey

Cocteau Twins

The ultimate "I know what song I'm talking about in my head but have no idea what its title is" band.

Is there gonna be side projects and solo stuff in the GBV poll?

I think it's probably best keeping to just things released under the GBV moniker (that's already about a million billion songs to pick from). One caveat would be the Suitcase series, where fake band names are used for individual tracks.

so long, "Total Exposure" off the Airport 5 album

so long "pop zeus" :(

Hey, if people wanna vote for extra-GBV or post-GBV stuff and it means people are happier and more potential voters, I'd be happy to lift the non-GBV ban. I'm all about not caring too hard!

Cocteau Twins has to happen. If Leee isn't volunteering I'll hereby gladly put myself forward.

xp I actually was kinda joking, as I am even more patchy about the extra-GBV stuff than the GBV itself, but gigantic GBV Universe poll sure looks like a fun idea!

i just want to drown out all of the people who only vote for bee thousand and alien lanes

rather, i want to smother them in hugs

awww

[Sitting here listening to all of the 250 or so GBV albums I never heard before]

And that's with owning 50 or so of them and seeing them god knows how many times!

What I'm trying to say is the GBV poll will be insane and Johnny should get hazard pay or something.

Do I have to wait until GBV is in countdown before I open up Stevie for balloting?

Eric, that's a good question. I think things work best when there's only one set of results rolling out at a time, but I don't see any harm in two sets of balloting going on at once.

Mostly trying to stave off my results rollout falling around Oct. 19-23, when I'll be gone. Of course, I'm guessing I can just make sure that whenever I set up shop, that the deadline falls sometime in there, giving everyone an extra day or two.

I imagine I'll open GBV voting up whenever the Timbaland poll is nearing a close (so, like, Thursday?) and then let that run to the following weekend and then roll the results out starting Sep 26.

I think Steviepoll will be done way before that.

JFever, are you ready for the polls to open on GBV whenever some dude starts his countdown? I don't know squat about them other than "I Am a Scientist," but I might do some listening starting this evening and attempt a ballot (no promises).
xpost, that answers that

Cool. First half of October will work fine for me.

playing the timbaland poll by ear, might be done thursday, might be done friday fyi

Well, I'll just say GBV voting starts Thursday regardless. I don't think one will affect the other, really.

yeah it's all fine with me, just letting you know in case it matters

that's some really tight schedule then, I better start digging into these Suitcases right now

Eh, it's not too tight. This Thursday open thru the next next weekend (so 11 days in total).

oh, I mistook this for Thursday and the following three days. ok then, that's just fine!

11 days to listen to 2,678 songs

If you're already familiar with them (which I assume most people bothering to vote are) then picking a top 20 won't be incredibly hard.

Yeah, I don't plan on relistening to every album -- just choosing gut favorites, which I already have a mental list of anyway thanks to my years of devoted fanship and strong gut feelings.
It's just tracks, right? 20?

I'll probably do the 5 least favorite/5 albums thing WmC did for the Zep poll. Because it was a good idea!

put me down for New Order at 37

All the ballot threads have been very pleasant so far.

I can imagine 11 being a bit of a punch-up for some reason.

Cocteau Twins has to happen. If Leee isn't volunteering I'll hereby gladly put myself forward.

― Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre)

S'all you! :D

Also:

• Orbital
• Underworld
• Stereolab
• Spiritualized

Gotcha!

WmC, you may put me down for the CT poll.

I'll go into the past and do it yesterday.

Done!