poll of metallica vs. velvet underground

you have five hours to vote ilm!!!

which are you voting for?

http://i.imgur.com/ryTH9.jpg

the poll that didn't have to happen

Metallica

mods need to make the final results by voter visible so when the revolution comes we know which side we're hoarding canned goods with

hahaha

YAY some dude

so excited to learn absolutely nothing about anything from this poll

good point

markers tell us why you prefer metallica

velvets - #1 favorite band in the history of bands

OG Cliff Burton Metallica lineup would prob rank some where in or near the top #5 tho

Metallouca = #870,933,064

so excited to learn absolutely nothing about anything from this poll

what if you don't really give a shit about either

you're fucked

;_;

markers tell us why you prefer metallica

― da croupier, Thursday, June 16, 2011 1:32 PM

no idea how to go about explaining it well, but i'm not challopsing at all and would seriously rather have metallica's discography than vu's if i could only listen to one or the other

come on try

you're fucked

use your words, markers

or at least an interpretive series of JPEG postings

http://magiclanternfilm.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/house-of-games.jpg
My markers good for the money

one of my college roommates was a sound engineer for the recording studio we had in the basement of our dorm; he would frequently make copies of the more hilarious/ridiculous things ppl recorded and play them for us later so we could all heartily lol

the most lolsome recordings came from this indie girl who had the "I am a precious butterfly" demeanor (I'm sure you can visualize what this means) and her tone-deaf male friend who sort of bellowed his way through everything, the funniest one being a recording of "Stephanie Says" that happened to be my first encounter with the song ever, so for years I thought they'd written it

hearing the actual recording and realizing that bellowing dude's vocals were comparable (along with the lyrics themselves) basically rendered any chance I had of taking VU seriously DOA

whereas with Metallica, all I really had to do was see a picture of them

i think i speak for markers when i say we like to rock, and metallica rocks just a teensy weensy bit harder than set the twilight reeling

i'm not trying to argue that vu aren't influential or whatever, but my desire to hear their music is so low compared to my desire to hear metallica's. there was a time in my life where the only artists i really listened to for their whole albums were metallica and staind. and i played that shit again and again and again. i didn't even know vu back then, but i'm sure even if i had i wouldn't have liked them more

i started to try to write out why i really like metallica more, but i'm not good at explaining that kind of stuff, so

i think i speak for markers when i say we like to rock, and metallica rocks just a teensy weensy bit harder than set the twilight reeling

― Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, June 16, 2011 1:46 PM

this is probably part of it, although i like enough music that doesn't rock, like joanna newsom and whatever, that this is probably only a part of it . . . (i also don't know what twilight reeling is tbh)

that album wasn't by the VU you dopes

it's like talking to starman or something, except the record inside voyager 2 was staind

sorry i forgot the convo was specifically velvets and not lou in general

it's cool, i forgot you judged everything by how hard it rocks

it's like talking to starman or something, except the record inside voyager 2 was staind

oh my god

strongo killin it today lol

why was there never a Starman 2

we're IN IT RIGHT NOW

While stowing away on a boxcar, the couple make love. Later that night, the starman tells Jenny "I gave you a baby tonight." Jenny attempts to explain to him that she is infertile, and cannot conceive a child, but the starman insists, saying, "Believe what I tell you." He explains to the stunned Jenny that the baby will be the son of her dead husband, because he is a clone of Scott. He also explains that he will know all that the starman knows and when he grows up he will become a teacher. He tells her that he will stop the gestation from going further if she wishes, but the joyful Jenny embraces him, in acceptance of this gift.

congratulations, markers and strongo

there's a less dramatic reason why sex with me wouldn't produce a baby

it's cool, i forgot you judged everything by how hard it rocks

― da croupier, Thursday, June 16, 2011 1:50 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

i kind of do! with rock music anyway. seriously though -- basically VU is just something that was exciting when i was 15 and my cool friends were hipping me to the alt canon and i have no use for in my daily life a decade and change later, whereas the Metallica songs i thought were badass as a kid i still crank when they come on the radio

Man, I was just thinking today how I've completely exited my latest Metallica phase and will probably have no desire to hear them at all for the next 10 years or so. I haven't listened to VU in a couple years either. I feel no passion for either of them. Both of these bands have fulfilled very specific needs in the past, but neither of them work for me now. I think from an objective standpoint I'd give VU a slight edge because their ballads don't suck. Also, for calling it quits in a timely manner.

This thread is a honey pot of wrong.

that's not honey

"This thread is a vagina of wrong"?

warmer

vaginas usually are

really? now i'm worried.

To get back to earlier in the derail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EgB__YratE

arrgh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EgB__YratE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EgB__YratE

the funniest one being a recording of "Stephanie Says" that happened to be my first encounter with the song ever, so for years I thought they'd written it
hearing the actual recording and realizing that bellowing dude's vocals were comparable (along with the lyrics themselves) basically rendered any chance I had of taking VU seriously DOA

Yeah, judging a band based on a bad cover of an outtake that was unreleased until a couple of decades after it was recorded seems pretty fair.

VU fans are the touchiest people on Earth

Dan, if you don't like either of the artists under discussion why are you bothering us on this thread?

VU fans are the touchiest people on Earth

that's why they're named the feelies

heroin addicts are like the LEAST touchy people on earth

unless you take away their heroin

yeah this is a serious thread, stop coming in here trying to make it into a joke!

I mean, why are you bothering to come on this thread, when so many other threads would benefit so much more from your insight?

just lol'in at the idea of judging a band based on a song that wasn't actually on any of their albums

Sure, but it's still one of their best songs.

markers had a dream and you're all shitting on it

uh, ok xp

it's not even their best "says" song

Never thought of the vocal or the lyrics as "bellowing" before. Unless this is a sly reference to the Lou Reed/Delmore Schwartz/Saul Bellow axis of evil.

Sure IS their best "says" song: Best Lou Reed "Somebody Says" Song

i kind of do! with rock music anyway. seriously though -- basically VU is just something that was exciting when i was 15 and my cool friends were hipping me to the alt canon and i have no use for in my daily life a decade and change later, whereas the Metallica songs i thought were badass as a kid i still crank when they come on the radio

― Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, June 16, 2011 1:57 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark

otm - if this poll happened when i was 17 it would've been vu with a bullet, but at this point in my life how could i possibly vote for velbutt undersnooze over the searing riffs, blistering solos and comedic vocals of the american institution known as metallica

yeah but the vu has all those things too

well maybe not searing riffs or blistering solos

4 hours to go

searing riffs, blistering solos and comedic vocals

this feels like a decent description of White Light/White Heat

maybe when y'all get to james hetfield's age you'll realize the value of lou reed, he once liked to play corny ass metallica songs too

http://www.studiocalico.com/system/shop_items/pictures/000/000/983/original/mustard_zing.jpg

Dan, if you don't like either of the artists under discussion why are you bothering us on this thread?

― James & Bobby Quantify (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, June 16, 2011 6:23 PM (17 minutes ago)

checks URL, mystery solved

tbh i was expecting a largely pro-tallica response here... smh ilm

lol why would you think that, VU won the band poll/round robin iirc

metallica fans oblivious to their enviroment, film at eleven

But metallica had the moral victory.

lol why would you think that, VU won the band poll/round robin iirc

― lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:49 PM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark

i have no idea what that is

I should have just posted my PE filk and been done with it

Sure IS their best "says" song: Best Lou Reed "Somebody Says" Song

wow, interesting. candy was robbed

dont cast me as some mindless metallica partisan dc, you dont see me posting in metal threads or anything - i just assumed everyone was 'over' vu by now. they were great and all but i cant imagine putting on Sweet Jane and going YEAH THIS IS MY FUKKIN JAM!!!! *tears shirt off in a feral rage*

i like lou reed~

xp I can and I'm just about to.

i wouldn't waste a shirt on metallica tbh

I'm madly in anger with lou

there's a lot of music I like that I can't imagine tearing my shirt off in a feral rage to that I still prefer to most metallica songs

they were great and all but i cant imagine putting on (metallica ballad) and going YEAH THIS IS MY FUKKIN JAM!!!! *tears shirt off in a feral rage*

I mean VU do have feral rage songs! sweet jane is pretty pop song VU.

hanes actually stayed afloat for most of 1991 because of the popularity of "the unforgiven"

they were great and all but i cant imagine putting on (metallica ballad) and going YEAH THIS IS MY FUKKIN JAM!!!! *tears shirt off in a feral rage*

― iatee, Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:58 PM (52 seconds ago) Bookmark

i would totally do this to fade to black man

TS "St. Anger" vs "Last Great American Whale"

i like lou reed~

I have been reading this site for a little while and when I first got here, I would constantly think "how could grown human beings actually have opinions about this music" especially when it came to pop threads or whatever, and I've gotten over that now, but really, this thread is too much

ts: bob quine vs. bob rock

yes it was a pixies reference

i think

playing "Last Great American Whale" over "Ring Ring Ring (Ha Ha Hey)" is a weird mashup

ts: bob quine vs. bob rock

i don't hate metallica, they're crossover metal kings and I'm a crossover kinda guy, but every velvets album is chock full of songs I still find odd and engaging despite having memorized them by adolescence. Someone could say "oh yeah but the FOO FIGHTERS man don't you wanna throw down to monkey wrench" but i'd still pick VU. But then I was the nerd forcing school pals to listen to VU in the first place.

TS "St. Anger" vs "Last Great American Whale"

― lemon kerrang! (jjjusten), Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:01 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hahahahaha

sweet jane was a bad example because i actually have always gotten super pumped by this live version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_hiDyKLVlw

mo freakin kills those skins man

I was actually thinking that was a bad example because I'm not a a huge VU fan but SJ really is a jam. Also one of my fav ever songs.

VU is rad. Metallica is rad. People who like VU and people who like Metallica are the greatest people on earth.

slipped on a pair of sunglasses & put 'loaded' on the stereo & im just 'rocking the fukk out' still have my shirt on tho...

i'd like to hear the cowboy junkies do "the memory remains"

I'd rip my shirt off but I'm at work

All the more reason.

Reminded that way back when I used to think that instead of "Drop out of BU!" Jonathan Richman was singing "Drop out of VU!"

sometimes when 'im waiting for the man' comes on my ipod & i start to unselfconsciously strut just loosen my back and really groove yknow maybe start to light an imaginary cigarette

i'd rip my shirt off but then i'd have to look at my body

xxxxp you mean you don't keep spare shirt (nearly typed 'shite' by accident) at work?

I'd rip my shirt off but I'm at work

― chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:06 PM (26 seconds ago)

why don't you two just rip each others shirts off

i'd get all up in dan's url

hawtt

lol "fade to black man"

i checked & i dont have any vu or metallica on my ipod but im p sure i did @ some point... 'sweet jane' is good tho because of the part where you can sing along to it, it actually rocks p hard

It does!

You made me look and it's the only song I have from either on my phone at the moment.

Next poll: Lou haircuts over the years.

back in high school or early college i was playing vu and nico at home and a nico song came on and my mom asked me if i wanted a beret

hahahaha

oh i didnt remember there was actually a song called 'rock & roll' on this album... i am shaking to this fine fine music

you still have the beret, right

this thread = lou reed between songs on "take no prisoners"

this man needs a beret

http://www.giantpanther.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Lou-Reed-V.jpg

another time i was playing black flag's damaged in my room too loud and i came out and she patted me on the shoulder and said "there, there."

tbh my mom would have made a hella good ilm troll.

The arrival of the strongo beret anecdote means that all our hard work on this thread has not been in vain for nothing.

i love your mom

Did she offer you a Pepsi whilst you were listening to Suicidal Tendencies?

lol "fade to black man"

― Mr. John Scatman (some dude), Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:10 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol

did we ever do a "Best Lou Reed on the Cover of New York Poll"?

i will say there are individual VU songs (sister ray) i'd easily take over any individual metallica track, but i'd still much rather listen to the first 4 'ca albums in a row than the first four vu

tbh my mom would have made a hella good ilm troll.

she even has the "why aren't you listening to r&b?" shtick down, iirc

Felt obligated to vote for VU, although if I'm honest with myself I'd rather hear "Whiplash" than any given VU song on most days.

honestly if metallica had just made 4 records + some "lost albums" like vu this would be way tougher

memo to bands: break up!

lol why would you think that, VU won the band poll/round robin iirc

― lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:49 PM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark

i have no idea what that is

― (.づ☀‿☀)づ ~da post-modernist struggle~ (.づ☀‿☀)づ (Princess TamTam), Thursday, June 16, 2011 6:50 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark

gah these threads are proving difficult to search for, anybody remember what I'm talking about...?

honestly if metallica had just made 4 records + some "lost albums" like vu this would be way tougher

memo to bands: break up!

― brio, Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:24 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

motherfuckers act like they forgot about yule

Wonder if Hetfield ever has nightmares that Echo Brain got the rights to the name Metallica

Three more hours for this thread to keep giving us
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yeah nobody's going to have opinions on the outcome

This thread will run and run. It'll be so hot that even in centuries to come, Internet archaeologists will have to handle it with waldoes.

http://www.cinesud-affiches.com/imgshw.php?400%C2%A7images/catalogue/C_ERA_UNA_VOLTA_IL_WEST_20.jpg

Thread will reach D. Matthews and Pomplamousse magnitude before passing them both on its way out of the solar system.

lol at waldo joke

I stand corrected - the Beatles won, Velvets were second

ILM JULY MADNESS - CHAMPIONSHIP - (IN WHICH WE ACTUALLY DECIDE WHO MADE THE BEST MUSIC OF ALL TIME AND NOBODY WILL BE ABLE TO ARGUE WITH THE RESULT BECAUSE IT'S 100% SCIENTIFIC)

still pissed that Prince came in 3rd

voting VU over metallica's fine but over the beatles is straight up douchey

Prince came in third in this contest too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHaFj7gOWh4

hahaha

if we ever have another one of those it's gotta be national cuisines

Another point in Velvet Underground's favor (for me, at least) is that Phish covered Loaded as their musical Halloween costume back in 97 or so. I was just listening to Lonesome Cowboy Bill this morning, but I totally forgot to take that into account re my VU listening habits!

would like to hear Phish cover Stanger

honestly if metallica had just made 4 records + some "lost albums" like vu this would be way tougher

if this had happened I would have voted Metallica unless VU had also broken up after the 3rd album in which case I would have just sat out the election

NOT MUCH TIME LEFT TO VOTE!!!

DON'T DISAPPOINT ME, ILM!!!

Trying to envisage what they would have been like if they'd have swapped drummers.

Lars' dad yelling at Lou would be interesting

i voted metallica becuz James Hetfield used to have a cool mustache

So did John Cale at one point iirc

Hetfield's evoked fear

^^shook one imo

there ain't so such thing as halfway stache

i punch moustaches in the face just for livin

35 minutes!

there ain't so such thing as halfway stache

markers, is this gonna be a thing, these bite sized polls? I sure hope not.

if metallica collaborates with another band on another record, there will most likely be another poll

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/06/15/fear460.jpg

I never walk around whistling Metallica songs

I whistle Metal Machine Music

the real question is who would win in an actual FITE? i dunno, they all seem like a bunch of namby-pambies to me. tho if cliff were still around, he could almost certainly cliff 'em all.

actually, forgot abt trujillo.. dude's bass pose makes him look convincingly like cage warrior or something.

does lou know crazy kinds of kung fu?

http://tinyurl.com/metallicaaaah

trujillo seems like a good dude, i almost felt bad for him in some kind of monster like what are you getting yourself into?

getting yrself into an awesome band!!!

$1,000,000 signing bonus to start iirc

lol

i don't know if my old metallica love can ever come back after that movie. those guys were legit superheroes to me in jr high.

i have trouble accepting metal dudes as real ppl, because i loved metal at an age where i thought like circus magazine interviews were real and that all those dudes were like doing black magic and shit and not just some lumps.

xpost Trujillo had already BEEN in awesome bands, afaic anybody who doesn't rate Suicidal Tendencies can go play in napalm!

i haven't even heard stuff by those bands, at least not that i was aware of, but metallics is better

METALLICA

http://tinyurl.com/trujilloahh

^ better

than the last tinyurl

fact: the first infectious grooves album >>> any post-black album 'tallica

idk what an infectious grooves album is

TEN MINUTES LEFT -- THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE TO VOTE!!!

\(^o^)/

i haven't even heard stuff by those bands, at least not that i was aware of, but metallics is better

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"hi guys, i just got to earth but i wanted to let you know that 80s miles davis slays all other jazz"

who's that

jk i've heard of him

see those dudes were both violent AND funky

hmmm markers you're not being very charming right now

LOL strongo

xpost sorry you feel that way homie

ITT we post only pics of Mike Muir looking angry until markers agrees to listen to Suicidal Tendencies

rocky george was the coolest motherfucker

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8IsQhlOJYtM/TGezKhHV1FI/AAAAAAAAA9w/zBdTtJYwicQ/s1600/Suicidal%2BTendencies%2BSuicidalMotherFucker.jpg

that hat should be in the rock n roll hall of fame

fuck yea. YOU! CAN'T! BRING! ME! DOWN!

suicidal tendencies: at they very least, they KNEW how to rock headgear

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god this fucking song is still epic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxcJW6bs5os

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hahaha FACED

nah, you 55 don't count

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

stfu system

i totally expected metallica to win this btw

they won in my heart

lol

kinda hoping for a tie tbh

kind of felt the markers project would be wound down post-'i miss you' :/

WAS THAT THE THRASHING YOU WERE LOOKIN FOR MARKERS? HUH? HUH?

DON'T ASK QUESTIONS YOU AFRAID TO GET THE ANSWER TO!

xpost you're stuck with me

where's markers?

― the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:20 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

like, is this what we've become as a board?

pretty sure we were having "is this what we've come to as a board" hand-wringing before 75 percent of the people on this thread showed up

plus come on his world is in tatters now leave him alone

looool

if metallica collaborates with another band on another record, there will most likely be another poll

― markers, Thursday, June 16, 2011 10:28 PM (20 minutes ago)

looks like somebody doesnt know about a hadcore motherfucker goes by the name of Michael Kamen

i used to have an s&m poster on my wall

well thats your fault, not mine

"Actually I was a poll vaulter"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zco0OwRzn5c#t=5m18s

The strangest things make me think of the strangest things.

(Tried to code it so it would skip to 5:20-5:50 -- no luck.)

Best thread since the pinefox finished reading Goon Squad

this poll reminds me of a drunken argument i had years ago with a girl who told me that metallica 'rocked more' than james brown.

looks like somebody doesnt know about a hadcore motherfucker goes by the name of Michael Kamen

holy lol

markers

(j/k dude sorry)

:)

metallica

^^^^^

That's a lot of votes for a 5 hour poll!