FOSTER THE PEOPLE

http://i.imgur.com/7WOj5.gif

that one song is kind of like the diet mountain dew of songs

Helena Beat > Pumped Up Kicks >>>>>>>> the rest of the album.

They're not really hateable though, so I don't understand the reasoning behind this thread. Save it for someone who's worth the trouble.

that one song is kind of like the diet mountain dew of songs

― call all destroyer, Monday, July 25, 2011 3:54 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

it's like the Candlebox version of Animal Collective/PeterBjorn&John

haha i was about to say that this like the ugly reality of high school kids blown away by peter bjorn and john finally rearing its ugly head, but apparently this guy is like almost 30.

actually, in that regard these guys are maybe a lot like the orgy of lite-indie music.

I don't know, I don't mind "Pumped Up Kicks" when it comes on but I can't find myself going out of my way to actively seek it out. Unfortunately my wife seems to love it at the moment and I'm afraid I'll move into sheet hatred sooner rather than later if she keeps playing it.

haha i was about to say that this like the ugly reality of high school kids blown away by peter bjorn and john finally rearing its ugly head, but apparently this guy is like almost 30.

― apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, July 25, 2011 12:00 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i mean, yeah, this is essentially Owl City levels of major label spitting back glossy, neautered version of something that worked in the underground. Kind of weird that AnCo reverb/harmonies are finally seeing some influence on the actual pop charts.

i didn't mind it until i realized that it is like 90% chorus (and it's a v. simple chorus)

M: And there’s bits of Combat Rock shining through on “Pumped Up Kicks”

oh go fuck yourself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABzh6hTYpb8

tbh i had no idea this shit had like multiple youtube clips with 2, 3, 4 million views each.

I liked their song but now I am sick of their song, don't really care about 'what they represent'

if they make whiney's blood boil they can't be entirely useless in this world

tbf whiney only facepalm.gif'd which i think is a totally fair non-overreaction to this mush

Everytime I see them compared to other bands (often negatively), I wonder why everyone is dancing around the fact they're a total bite on MGMT. I hear PB&J, Animal Collective, Vampire Weekend, etc...but there's a pretty straight and direct line from MGMT to Foster the People.

umm yeah i like both of the singles. haven't heard the album yet though.

the band name is fucking awful though... so is the album cover.

i like both of the singles

Stop there. Enjoy them. Don't tarnish your opinion of them by hearing what else they've recorded.

I don't like this song but i'm sure I would have when I was 19

Let's just agree that they'e better than Owl City.

does every song have that "young folks"/fujiya and miyagi breakbeat/liebezeit-for-dummies rhythm?

I think it's less that theyre watered down versions of things we already know and more that they are too similar in style bcuz frankly those mgmt singles are just as unlistenable to me now, but at least they had novelty going for them at one point. This ostensibly new song is like a song you heard so much you got tired of it, without having heard it that much at all

Tbh, I'm sort of surprised Whiney isn't more supportive of a song that encourages hipster-on-hipster violence.

More that they are JUST too similar - like I get why its a hit it just lacks any novelty

i don't get why it's a hit at all. it lacks even annoying-whistling-you-can't-get-out-of-your-head.

That hook is catchy enough, I've only heard it a couple times but could prob sing it + it has meaningfulcore hazy wistful vibes. Its charting but isn't top ten or anything iirc?

it's been number one on billboard alternative for like 5 weeks doggg

Actually when I do try to sing it sometimes it turns into that part of the drew carey theme where it says "all the little kids growing up on the skids...are going CLEVELAND ROCKS"

cool band or w/e

Billboard alternative huh? And where does that place it on the pop charts

Only can speak from empirical personal evidence, but four of my wife's friends have emailed me asking for more info about this particular song, so it seems pretty huge among 27-32 year old women.

xpost

some real lol talk from mr. "[insert rapper here] is actually as famous as michael jackson because they have a lot of YouTube hits"

Actually when I do try to sing it sometimes it turns into that part of the drew carey theme where it says "all the little kids growing up on the skids...are going CLEVELAND ROCKS" ―Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40)

irl lol

http://www.weirdandgilly.com/wp-content/uploads/ian-hunter_1457202c.jpg

ugh look at this

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ed/PumpedUpKicks.jpg

this is exactly the type of band that IRL people recommend to me/request when i'm djing months and months before they ever get their own ILM thread

it's at no. 38 on the hot 100 fyi

xpost: ugh whiney my eyes

cf: Miike Snow

regardless i play this on occasion /no shame in my game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2xhEerUrfI

ban gr8080's turntables

Pumped Up Kicks was around this time last year, so it's really old news tbh. Sorry you could've hated it for longer and were deprived of the opportunity, Whiney.

Anyway I brought up the charts just bcuz I was agreeing w strongo that although I think its catchy enough its not top ten pop charts catchy, just more generic indiesploitation

this is exactly the type of band that IRL people recommend to me/request when i'm djing months and months before they ever get their own ILM thread

haha i was totally thinking this is the sort of thing i only hear bcuz of ilm

the one dude is p handsome tho

haha this is precisely the sort of band people (esp in my family) irl ask me about when the "so how's work going?" convo comes up

Unfortunately my wife seems to love it at the moment and I'm afraid I'll move into sheet hatred sooner rather than later if she keeps playing it.

"sheet hatred" makes it sound like there will be bedroom recriminations for her transgressions

this is exactly the type of band that IRL people recommend to me/request when i'm djing months and months before they ever get their own ILM thread

Where do people hear about bands like this? The first time I ever saw the name "Foster the People" was like last week. Only listening to "Pumped-Up Kicks" now b/c of this thread.

Stereogum called it the song of the summer while it was #1 on the alterna charts iirc.

"Where do people hear about bands like this?"

radio, youtube, word of mouth...where else?

there are many avenues to hear about this sort of thing, cf. all those emo bands kerrang covers who can sell out large clubs or even venues bigger than that while making no dent in the "cool" side of the online musical discussion world

yep

Huh, I didn't realize that it was getting radio airplay; I haven't heard it. (With YouTube, you generally have to seek it out, though, no?)

someone links it usually

kcrw has been all over this band for a while.

for the record, the first mention on ILM was by Moka

followed by a handfull of posts on year-end threads and then roxy mentioning them on this (awesome) thread: mix cds from my musicology class

My question wasn't rhetorical: I know that there must be lots of places where people hear about music outside of the channels ILXors usually travel. I'm just curious what they are.

Like where, e.g., are jon/via/chi's wife's friends hearing about this band?

...the radio? Upon which popular tunes can be heard?

normals listen to music?!

foster kamer the people

dude, jaymc

there is a local station that is wholly devoted to 90s alt music and its 21st century descendents. so you'll get collective soul and passion pit and stp and this. i assume this is not an uncommon format around the country.

Foster the people is such a horrible band name

Such a perfectly middlebrow alt rock name

worse than cage the elephant

I guess X the Y names are a thing now

calling new band verb the noun

Foster The People
Cage The Elephant
Portual The Band
Bands The Terrible

what is that one...HORSE THE BAND or something? blind rage.

http://i.imgur.com/VAgcV.jpg

^^^a jam imo

X the X bands infinitely more preferable to X the Y bands

foster the people made infinitely worse by the fact dudes last name is foster imo

*strokes beard thoughtfully*

Mumford the Sons

Now about this Fox the Fox band:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MteEdKHaTg

animals, the collective

strokes the strokes

custos the thread

foster! the people

jaymc - XRT has been all over "Pumped Up Kicks" over the past couple of months. When two of my wife's friends wanted to know more about it, they specifically cited "that song about kicks on XRT".

foster the people you love with love
show them the way that you feel

Ned had you never heard precious little diamond?????????

there is a local station that is wholly devoted to 90s alt music and its 21st century descendents. so you'll get collective soul and passion pit and stp and this. i assume this is not an uncommon format around the country.

Yeah, possibly the Chicago alt-rock station was playing Foster the People before they went off the air a couple weeks ago -- although their new stuff was mostly restricted to stuff on Billboard Rock Songs rather than Billboard Alternative Songs. Tbh, I can image the local AAA station playing something like this, since they played PB&J back in '07, and I even heard "My Girls" on there once or twice.

Haha, xpost.

xxpost -- Was it even a hit here? It's new to me! And I certainly regret never having seen that TV performance before.

I guess I don't listen to the radio enough -- mostly just while running errands on weekends.

i can thank this thread for:

1) informing me that Q101 is over
2) giving me an opportunity to introduce Ned to one of the most slept-on singles of the 80's

These guys are destined for a slot at ravinia

xpost -- there is always something new to find out. For which I am grateful.

Ned fox the fox are fairly obscure, first I heard them was actually as a loop on michael mayers "amanda"

! i had...no idea.

i haven't listened to this band, but the band name "Foster the People" really irritates me in some way i can't fully explain, like way more than your average terrible band name

i think "pumped up kicks" is a great single

altho they should probably give up hope of this getting radio play in norway

A "great" single??

yes, "great"

foster the hoople

wow, helena beat really, really makes the mgmt refs explicit

i think "pumped up kicks" is a great single

― J0rdan S., Monday, July 25, 2011 1:48 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOiVaE-pKqM

idk, it's a nice little indie pop song. i liked "young folks" & "electric feel" & "round and round"

it's kinda refreshing to hear it on pop radio, not that that matters to most ppl

who are you

whiney i take exception to denigrating you can call me al like this

Arggh, what the hell is it that samples the little spoken part in 'Precious Little Diamond'?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJUJ075WH7U

^ to answer my own question, it was this

To answer your own question, read thread

Lol

whiney i take exception to denigrating you can call me al like this

took this is a veiled allusion to the terrible music tastes of al 'paramour fan' sh1pley

had no idea this band was big, been around la with their stupid ass name forever

xpost

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_J3oiQJ_ccrk/TDXGk2Ks7lI/AAAAAAAAAtc/kSP92nqhcP4/S1600-R/BLOG-HEADER.gif

I sorta like Pumped Up Kicks because it is like a mumbling stadium-chillwave* take on Angel Corpus Christi's "Me and my Beretta" without me actually having to listen to Angel Corpus Christi and find out that her one good song isn't good any more now I'm not 15

(* sorry Lamp. also sorry ACC, I hope you do not google your way here or I will feel really mean)

these guys got plugged as "best new music" for "Pumped Up Kids" in the Guardian music section last year and somehow my other half who gives approx 0 shits about seeking out new music started playing it for a while soon after that, so kinda surprised that this thread is happening now, Whiney not keeping up with the musical tips of British newsy-wewsypapers

Whiney not keeping up with the musical tips of British newsy-wewsypapers

you know, no one else started the thread!

To answer your own question, read thread

oh shi...

xp, that is true but pointing that out wouldn't have given me a chance to leap on the newsy-wewsies meme several weeks after the cool kids got bored of it (sadface)

anyhow I had no idea that they'd got another song so I am also not keeping up

This blew up in my "circles" about six months ago and they played down the road from me so a friend convinced me to go see them. They were definitely dancier than I had expected from "Pumped Up Kicks". I suppose post-MGMT is correct. But also just kinda post-DFA generally, which seems like a more widespread thing that's been building for years. The other notable things were that they all looked 12 and had more instruments on stage than seemed strictly necessary and kept swapping.

There also seems to be a trend for really sunny (like literally sunny) video clips for all this stuff (see also like every Local Natives video clip). Like you might expect for the third single of a late era Chemical Bros album.

This seems like closer to absolute ground zero of this aesthetic musically, and was massive here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoQwwcf2ERU

Dare we ask Lex's opinion of all this.

There was a video clip for a band that I originally thought were Sleigh Bells until I actually heard (the very different) Sleigh Bells where there's a group of preppy looking dudes sorta jogging along a beach maybe and throwing their hands in stage moves from side to side, what was that?

Or was that every indie video clip of the last two years?

the drums?

Probably don't even need the word 'indie' at this point...

I think it was! though I seem to have simply made up the stage moves bit.

The differences are paper-thin, I'm aware, but that Little Red song was driving me mad less than a minute in. I didn't even make it the whole way through. Meanwhile, I think Foster the People are okay...so whatever.

"pumped up kicks" is definitely the better song, yes.

whiney u realize the reason you are upset about j0rdan & kids liking it is because you are a steward of hipster culture & this is like you walking in on your teenage son getting a blowjob

just sounds like pitch-perfect mgmt to me

Ok they can't take credit for it but I think they're good if only for being the soundtrack to this dogboarding video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXv2MYqoaF4

Ha! That was pretty fun.

you know, no one else started the thread!

― ennui morricone (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, July 25, 2011 3:31 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

well, the song's been mentioned on a ton of threads in the last year. and it hit #1 on the billboard alternative chart like 6 weeks ago.

also was elected stereogum's 'song of the summer' a while back lol

song really is terrible, though, i thought it was vaguely ok when i only knew the chorus, then i realized how horribly annoying the vocals on the verses are. says a lot that Moka was ilx's earliest adopter to this song.

lol

I Shazam'd "Helena Beat" which is really good, and also had no idea they were like **#1** which I have no problem with (although I find it incredibly surprising). "Pumped Up Kicks" sounds a bit Peter Bjorn by the numbers but it's ok too. I wonder if casual listeners think they're the same group.

you guys are seriously barking up the wrong tree if you think i'm gonna be latepass butthurt about Foster The Elephant or whatever these assholes are called

cage the elephant might be the worst band in the world

they are up there

foster, the creator

I just don't understand why they get your feathers up while The Horrors and shit are out there.

The Horrors are a sweet band iirc

says a lot that Moka was ilx's earliest adopter to this song.

Was this a slam?

Not saying The Horrors are completely awful, but they're a much easier target for unjustified griping. I mean, look...

http://new.assets.thequietus.com/images/articles/5907/the_horrors_1300787347_crop_550x400.jpg

What the fuck is the deal with that one dude's hair? They look like a 70s cartoon band.

they're produced into a noisy soup by Portishead's Geoff Barrow, which is way more appealing to me than a indie rock boy band trying to sound like Chairlift for 15 year olds

but yeah, their look is inexcusable

dude on the right reminds me of
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2029/2447915628_3a47138f8a.jpg

kinda like the next guy's judge dredd hair

indie rock boy band trying to sound like Chairlift for 15 year olds

This whole thread is a fucking madlib, right?

you never run out of bands to reference when the subject is people that sing like muppets

I hate that I've had to turn into a defender of a band that I really only like a couple songs by, but they're being unnecessarily trampled on here. I feel gross, but you guys should feel filthy.

2 filthy 2 clean my act up

shit, it's "2 dirty 2 clean my act up"

rip

g2g bbl

says a lot that Moka was ilx's earliest adopter to this song.

Was this a slam?

― Johnny Fever

Yep. I'm the corny indie blogger / feisty spanish girl on ilm iirc.

The shame.

tbf you predicted this thread a year ago:

Moka wrote this on thread We're more than a third of the way through 2010 and we still don't have a thread for our favorite singles/songs/tracks of the year? on board I Love Music on Jul 12, 2010

Foster The People - pumped up kicks

http://bit.ly/akFkng

So yep... it's sort of 'young folks' revamped and most of ilm might hate it but I'm extremely addicted to this song atm.

Oh yes that's right, I forgot where I had first mentioned it... ILM being ILM it was an obvious prediction to make tho.

I'm no longer extremely addicted to that song btw and I'll admit they're pretty much indefensible, but I also don't get the amount of hate they're getting over here... they seem pretty harmless to me to even deserve the attention of the haters. They're neither the next best thing nor the worst offenders in their respective genre(s).

there's really no bigger offense than being middle of the road

Nah this band is the side of the road where animals shit and roll around in it all day.

the shittle of the road, if you will

SOTRWASARAIIAD doesn't roll off the tongue quite like MOR, unfortunately

i think for me what it is is that this song has all these characteristics of songs that are better and ultimately feels like a pastiche of this kind of nebulous 00s indie dance thing tim was talking about but isnt really a good song, in the end, so i feel like its signifying a lot to ppl who are just sorta becoming familiar w/ this kind of aesthetic world or just have generally positive / respectful associations w/ it

idk maybe im doing too much mindreading

i think for me what it is is that this song has all these characteristics of songs that are better and ultimately feels like a pastiche of this kind of nebulous 00s indie dance thing tim was talking about but isnt really a good song, in the end, so i feel like its signifying a lot to ppl who are just sorta becoming familiar w/ this kind of aesthetic world or just have generally positive / respectful associations w/ it
--Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40)

So yeah, Candlebox

i remember seeing candlebox on headbanger's ball until their label realized they were from seattle and started pushing them as 'alternative' -- it's not like they were even really imitating nirvana or anything, they were just kind of a shitty hard rock band

so but these guys sound like animal collective apparently? i haven't really heard any ac but i thought they were supposed to be 'weird,' not just lethargic surf rock or whatever foster the people's doing

oh god, these guys sound nothing like animal collective

animal collective, not even in their poppiest moments, have ever made a song that could get played on top 40 radio

yeah i dont really hear any ac here except maaaaaaaaaybe the vox

this is just pleasant npr indie with a light glaze of effects. very light. almost inaudible.

these guys sound like mgmt, peter bjorn & john, toro y moi etc -- animal collective are not indie pop

someone who liked those three bands (or also foster the people) could also dig animal collective (and prob would!) but that would be like, the weirdest music this strawman person would be into

you like all those bands, don't you

candlebox for all their sins at least had riffs. or a riff.

I do. But I'm also into stuff that's more mainstream and more far-out. I know, right? One person, a broad spectrum. Crazy. xp

toro y moi just covered cherelle's 'saturday love' iirc it was the first time id heard him. really terrible stuff

I do. But I'm also into stuff that's more mainstream and more far-out. I know, right? One person, a broad spectrum. Crazy. xp

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, July 26, 2011 2:00 AM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i assumed he was talking to j0rdan lol

candlebox's guitar tone was kind of cool and shiny

xpost yeah was talking to jordan

you like all those bands, don't you

― yelling "free dom passy" til you know i'm aspie (some dude), Monday, July 25, 2011 9:59 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

i mean sure, i like those bands. if i was in a car w/ someone & they put on a mix of stuff like that i wouldn't ask them to turn it off, and i jam an mgmt or animal collective single every once in a while. but i'm not out here spinning these full lengths.

ok fair enough, i just thought it was funny that you were characterizing that taste set as a total theoretical strawman

oh lol -- "i only know this cuz MY FRIEND is really into these bands"

they dont sound like AnCo, but their specific brand of harmonies and reverb are definitely coming in their wake

sorry that i have to do this, J0rdan

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/37/106612636_61318e0925.jpg
oh god, these guys sound nothing like animal collective

i don't even get the reference

oh god, these guys sound nothing like animal collective

― J0rdan S., Monday, July 25, 2011 9:56 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

he is calling you a hipster puppy

nose in the air

ha, i was joking like i'd never heard of hipster puppies

why is the 40 so important that it had to be bold

so many crossed wires in this thread

oh god, pink bedazzled collars look nothing a hipster puppy

AnCo just seems like a redundant comparison point when there are other bands FtP sound like more who are both more commercially successful and also actually more critically feted in the wider world of non-critic young people.

the comparison does allow a better scattershot at pissing people off though.

And isn't that the whole objective here?

pink bedazzled collars = juicy couture puppy

"critically feted by non-critics" is tortured but you know what I mean.

Generally speaking I'd say Foster are part of a lineage of soft-hands US indie-pop, and surely that's a big part of what people would be hating them for. AnCo are hated for having paint on their hands but it's not obvious whether the underlying hands are soft or wrinkled.

Foster the People are about as indie as Information Society were new wave. Translation: none indie nor new wave. They're a pop outfit and don't try to hide it at all. We, the "smart" people, are projecting.

once i saw whiney rushing to an animal collective concert... perhaps one day i will meet his son rushing to a foster the people concert

AnCo just seems like a redundant comparison point when there are other bands FtP sound like more who are both more commercially successful and also actually more critically feted in the wider world of non-critic young people.

― Tim F, Monday, July 25, 2011 10:40 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

afaik AnCo's influence is deeper and more ingrained in modern indie in the same way that bands like Tangerine Dream or Silver Apples or Terry Riley were in the 60s and 70s. People are using their textures and feels (no pun intended) to make more poppy and commercial music. their influence--as evidenced by Foster The People, isn't as cut and dry as "X sounds like Y."

Foster the People are about as indie as Information Society were new wave. Translation: none indie nor new wave. They're a pop outfit and don't try to hide it at all. We, the "smart" people, are projecting.

Next you'll be telling me that Green Day weren't punk!!!!!!!!!!!

green day were new wave

People are using their textures and feels (no pun intended) to make more poppy and commercial music.

I think you're WAAAAAYYYYY overestimating how many people, even those people who make music of their own, give half a shit about Animal Collective.

i'm pretty sure Foster The People like Animal Collective

and I'm ONLY talking about people who make music. I'm not talking about "the kids" or the listeners

Are you basing this one "Pumped Up Kicks" alone, or have you listened to the record or read an interview or anything of that sort? Plenty of people on ILM alone don't like Animal Collective and some of them make their own music. It's happening out there too.

Do you see the world as like a bunch of Venn diagrams to untangle or do you just not know how to read words?

I think you're WAAAAAYYYYY overestimating how many people, even those people who make music of their own, give half a shit about Animal Collective.

atp the influence/admiration doesnt even have to be firsthand, in some ways anco or at least the constellation of aesthetic values they handily represent here is probably bigger than just lifting vocal effects off 'here comes the indian' or w/e

like as much as it pains me to agree w/ whiney abt anything... i think hes basically right

my man, lamp

you're never gonna live that down

Like it really is reminding me of when like every shitty sub-Revelation hardcore band in 2002-2005 would be stealing from Kid A and Sigur Ros even though they ultimately sounded like cheesy Alternative Press garbitch

toro y moi just covered cherelle's 'saturday love' iirc it was the first time id heard him. really terrible stuff

I haven't heard the "Saturday Love" cover, but Underneath the Pine is tres classique!!

Even counting indirect influence, I still don't believe Animal Collective is as pervasive in popular music as you guys seem to believe. They're a tiny band who sell a few records and have, yes, influenced some circles directly and/or indirectly. Put them and their sound next to a Vampire Weekend or an Arcade Fire or even a MGMT and you'll see that they influence bupkus.

Do you see the world as like a bunch of Venn diagrams to untangle or do you just not know how to read words?

I like Venns, but fuck if I know what point you're trying to drive home here.

or even a MGMT

uh who do you think influenced MGMT's sound?

MGMT went to WESLEYAN in the mid 00s -- they were definitely getting stoned all the time while listening to animal collective

Yeah but in terms of anything in the actual music the link seems really tenuous in respect of anything AC did before Strawberry Jam, which beat Oracular Spectacular by, what, a couple of months?

Unless we're talking about general stoner vibes, in which case we may as well blame AC for the need to raise the debt ceiling too.

OC seems much more influenced and informed by DFA to my ears.

agree w tim lcd soundsystem are a bigger deal here than anco

they were listening to flaming lips or whoever sang like muppets first

the muppets iirc

I can't believe I have to actually type this out, but bands that chart on Billboard: MGMT, Chairlift, Kid Cudi, Foster The People, the last Flaming Lips record, Neon Trees, Yeasayer, Passion Pit, Dirty Projectors, Grizzly Bear

in the indie world: Toro Y Moi, Washed Out, Salem, Ariel Pink, Neon Indian, Gang Gang Dance Emeralds, High Places, El Guincho, the entire Paw Tracks roster, the entire genre of chillwave, the entire genre of witch house, the entire aesthetic of Altered Zones

not saying it's some contest between them and Bon Iver, I'm just saying it's out there and prevalent, and with Foster The People, it's maybe one it's most high profile tendrils

would include the last Linkin Park record in there too, actually

Even counting indirect influence, I still don't believe Animal Collective is as pervasive in popular music as you guys seem to believe. They're a tiny band who sell a few records and have, yes, influenced some circles directly and/or indirectly. Put them and their sound next to a Vampire Weekend or an Arcade Fire or even a MGMT and you'll see that they influence bupkus.

idk i listen to a p large amount of new indie and assorted microgenre releases and i hear anco much more than i hear the arcade fire or vampire weekend (and whiney already pointed out the mgmt thing). part of this to me encompasses not just specific musical comparisons but encompasses a lot of the extramusical attitudes/aesthetic that anco embody. imo anco are just sorta an easy stand-in for a confluence (nexus?) of ideas abt music/its relationship to technology/nature/the past that came out of turn-of-the-century nyc thats probably ~the~ most influential movement in indie music atm but thats probably to big/stupid an argument for this thread...

haha kid cudi

Lamp fucking gets it

yeah i dunno if there's THAT much difference popularity-wise between a band like animal collective who can headline festivals and debut at #13 on the billboard 200 and bands that do the same thing but also get airplay on radio formats barely anyone listens to anymore

ideas abt music/its relationship to technology/nature/the past

IDK, I think FtP are basically at the center of a convergence of three trends:

1) the above;

2) the early 00s "disco punk" aesthetic (indie always takes forever to "get over" its aesthetic crushes); and

3) VW preppiness.

and of the three, (1) is the weakest in their case.

Not denying that AnCo are massively influential but Foster doesn't seem like the best example of that.

thats probably to big/stupid an argument for this thread...

― ❄~ (Lamp), Monday, July 25, 2011 11:18 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

don't worry, it's a foster the people thread

i can see where lamp is coming from even though i dont listen to most of that shit but i think you're underrating the dancier end of stuff post MGMT / DFA / LCD / Cut Copy / Empire of the Sun etc that isnt really included in the anco thing afaik? idk i dont listen to anco lol

don't worry, it's a foster the people thread

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:23 AM (56 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

its a chance for me to get involved arguing abt something i know little about basically

i never thought i'd be saying this for any number of reasons but people denying animal collective's reach among (largely talentless, faceless) people making indie music right now are just...smdh

man "helena beat" is sooooo mgmt, holy

that said it's better than every song off that last mgmt album, so congratulation to foster the people

guys I'm actually keenly interested in the idea of discussing "influence" (or hearing discussions of it), feel like even though I was sorta with mark so on this "influence is a bullshit idea" thing for a while it's always worth revisiting ideas to see if maybe your ideas toward them have changed but I wanna say: discussing influence without being pretty specific about which songs & which sounds in them can be heard in other people's songs & how...is kinda the only way to go imo

like on Rubber Soul the Beatles use a harpsichord and within a year you've got motherfuckers getting down on some harpsichord. Or Ike Turner plays through a busted amp and people later make toys to make exactly the noise Ike Turner's busted amp made. etc. please go hard when discussing influence

thanks

on the more specific subject of the band that inspired the thread, they are terrible.

What deej and aerosmith said.

2) the early 00s "disco punk" aesthetic (indie always takes forever to "get over" its aesthetic crushes); and

well anco are tied into this via dfa/black dice too the hazy synth nostalgia-end of anco developed concurrent w/ that stuff in nyc a decade or so ago which is sorta the point im tryna make but this is probably too read yr blogs/when i was a high school hipster...

Tim quit playing naive, I know you know this stuff backwards and forwards.

Anyway, I'm gonna go watch Princess and The Frog, peace out

but people denying animal collective's reach among (largely talentless, faceless) people making indie music right now are just...smdh

Some people in this thread are entrenched enough in writing about music every day to believe this is true and some people in this thread are purposely removed from the type of bands the other people are writing about to perhaps discount how influential one of them might be on the other ones. Still, we're arguing about whether or not Foster the People sound like Animal Collective and that's probably the stupidest argument I've been baited into on ILM in at least a couple years.

Yes but, again, that link is super tenuous in terms of what is actually influencing foster.

Influence isn't just a game of six degrees of Kevin bacon.

i wonder how much of the success of "Pumped Up Kicks" is that the lyrics appeal to Sublime fans who like hearing chill rock bros talk about guns all gangsta style

That's replying to lamp.

haha al earlier today when this thread kicked off i read an interview with ftp dude where he claimed his earliest songwriting influences were nirvana and...sublime. you are on a deeper rock wavelength than the rest of us.

lol nice

wait I'm really tired and I kinda said the opposite of what I meant here:

discussing influence without being pretty specific about which songs & which sounds in them can be heard in other people's songs & how...is kinda the only way to go imo

what I mean is, in discussing influence, poetic comparisons about vibe or w/e aren't useful imo. citing specific sounds in named contexts is. but like if I say that peste noire goes for a darkthrone atmosphere, even if in shorthand that might be true, it's not a defensible claim without some technical specifics. if I say peste noire cranks up the reverb on the guitar and sneaks enough hardcore-ish riffs that you might think them and darkthrone were stablemates, ok maybe. still wrong because come on we're talking about darkthrone here but you get my point, which is that I am too tired to be posting to this thread.

lol @ sublime

Yes but, again, that link is super tenuous in terms of what is actually influencing foster.

i dont think anco are really influencing this dumm band i was just interested in making a case for the importance of anco in ~the zeitgeist~

ive rewritten this a bunch of times because its not as coherent or as well-argued as it should be but im attached to the idea that both the chillwave-y warped vhs synthwash anco influence and 'the early 00s "disco punk" aesthetic'/indie dance influence share both a common ancestry (post-noize early 00s nyc) and an 'emotional grammar' (nostalgia, loss) that tie them loosely together.

haha now im trying to think of some really good specific technical example of what im taking about, the shared interest in like old synths, the primacy of texture ugh i should just give this up

lamp I enjoy ur contributions to this discush

lamp is more right than wrong here and should not discount his own input

Well lamp I agree with your broader point but earlier I read you as saying that anco were so engrained in everything that a band like FtP would have to be specifically as well as contextually influenced by them.

In terms of specific things I'm willing to bet Foster dude reps hard for Beck's Mutations.

Question: is the hazy nostalgia of AnCo particularly distinguishable from Flaming Lips / Merc Rev in any sense other than generational?

The above on the basis that they only seemed to get major play among the broader indie community when they made a Merc Rev cover record.

earlier I read you as saying that anco were so engrained in everything that a band like FtP would have to be specifically as well as contextually influenced by them

yeah i never intended to argue for a direct influence tbqh i havent heard enough foster the people to make too many claims about their influences! i started out itt backing up whiney's argument that 'anco' (as a stand-in for a specific constellation of musical/aesthetic values)'s influence is pervasive enough that you can easily hear some third-hand 'here comes the indian' in the little foster the people that ive listened to. again i doubt this dude is banging to early paw tracks releases or w/e but its there to my ears...

I can't believe I have to actually type this out, but bands that chart on Billboard: MGMT, Chairlift, Kid Cudi, Foster The People, the last Flaming Lips record, Neon Trees, Yeasayer, Passion Pit, Dirty Projectors, Grizzly Bear

in the indie world: Toro Y Moi, Washed Out, Salem, Ariel Pink, Neon Indian, Gang Gang Dance Emeralds, High Places, El Guincho, the entire Paw Tracks roster, the entire genre of chillwave, the entire genre of witch house, the entire aesthetic of Altered Zones

Is this a list of things influenced by Animal Collective?

Apparently.

add ilm to that list

hey guys guess what song i had in my head all day

thanks a lot, stupid fucking thread >:-[

http://i.imgur.com/JrgKG.gif

I was always under the impression that one fo the main points of influence for MGMT were Of Montreal.

Foster the Bear.

this music is trying to imply it has a lifestyle, but it totally doesnt

man i hate when music doesn't have an accompanying lifestyle

i know

foster the snowman

Tim quit playing naive, I know you know this stuff backwards and forwards.

Anyway, I'm gonna go watch Princess and The Frog, peace out

― ennui morricone (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, July 25, 2011 11:35 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Princess and the Frog is a dope movie, imo

late to the party as usual but "pumped up kicks" is the most interesting thing I've heard on the radio in years

no wonder no one invited you to the party

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2ye6R9gxQVc/SUbPa-iB58I/AAAAAAAABQU/-mzA3VJ4SDc/s400/feder-regen-party_crash-flow.jpg

late to the party as usual but "pumped up kicks" is the most interesting thing I've heard on the radio in years

― chief content officer (m coleman), Tuesday, August 2, 2011 4:35 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark

good song, but no

This song makes me have some hope that songs will come back to be like they were in the 70's, 80's, 90's! I don't know why but if you listen closly it sounds like classical music(My opinion)
shortandy2011 2 days ago 80

smfh i should just stop reading youtube comments

ugh their smug / smarmy / aren't-we-cute vibe in the video

they look like male models, even their stubble is "perfect", not scruffy

you can practically see the stylists just out of frame in their ostensibly verite life-on-the-road/life-in-the-studio bullshit video

but damn that drummer is smashable

I would hatefuck them and then destroy the evidence in a fiery shame-blaze of hater-dom

lol

Wow.. you fucking people.. There's nothing remotely offensive about either of their 2 singles. They're catchy and well produced. I had no idea that they generated any type of slightly negative reaction until this thread. I'm basing this 100% on 2 songs with no desire to watch their videos or view their promo pictures or album covers.

Xp that Owl city thing is probably the worst song of the last 5 years or so.. try She & him or like Cage the elephant or some shit... infinitely more offensive imo

I can hear PB&J but a little MGMT, too. They're kind of innocuous.

There's nothing remotely offensive about either of their 2 singles.

well...the vocals, for one thing

you don't find the calculated ripoff of PeterBjorn&John kinda obnoxious?

cuz to me the jump from a song called "Young Folks" with a whistling-hook to song called "Blah Blah Kids" with a whistling-hook strikes me as kind of a super obvious, on the nose bite of somebody else's hit

and hey all's fair in pop music, but . . .

the gratuitous attempt to seem all aw shucks innocent and kiddly-widdly in their visual presentation sits very awkwardly with the label they're on and the scale on which they are being consumed

thus freeing me up to call bullshit on a no stakes message board thread yo

the drummer's still mad hot

the stakes couldn't be higher itt tbh

"Blah Blah Kids"

To pedantic, but it IS "Pumped Up Kicks" after all, but your point re: ripping off PB&J stands.

"blah blah kids" is a ke$ha/mgmt mashup iirc

not made yet mind you, but it exists in a spiritual realm of possibility

I feel like most of the hatred here simply generated from radio airplay.. if they were just another 5.3 on pitchfork without the heavy airplay no one would care

that video made me hate them, wouldn't care either way if they were critically fawned upon or not

they're just too serene and smug

they have the entitlement that being really handsome gives to people who lack the interesting mental disorders that could redeem them from banality and add some depth

(darby crash was conventionally attractive too, but at least he had the good sense to hate himself)

they are the Labrador retrievers of corporate indie, glowing with health and optimism

boy i sure do hate the radio.

^ ban this dude imo

Xp I will make sure I never watch their videos.

and labrador retrievers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oERIXjkR0JI

ouch

I don't hate the radio or Labrador retrievers, just sayin

;]

I can hear PB&J but a little MGMT, too. They're kind of innocuous.

― publier les (suggest) bans de (Michael White), Wednesday, August 3, 2011 12:35 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

AHHHHHHH god i never thought of "PB&J" oh fuck that

the whole lolwave nostalgia-meets-Mountain Dew/Fader-asperations fashion thing about mentioning Reebok Pumps in the chorus should make anyone sick to their fucking stomach

ALL THE LITTLE KIDS WITH THEIR SHIRTS THAT CHANGE COLOR IN THE SUN AND BRACELETS THAT YOU SLAP ON LOLOLOL WE FAMOUS YET?

the whole lolwave nostalgia-meets-Mountain Dew/Fader-asperations fashion thing about mentioning Reebok Pumps in the chorus should make anyone sick to their fucking stomach

― james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, August 3, 2011 4:22 PM (59 seconds ago) Bookmark

well this is prob reading too much into it

also the song is about murdering those kinds of ppl anyway, so you should feel some sorta connection

When are we going to get corewave?

Wow.. you fucking people.. There's nothing remotely offensive about either of their 2 singles. They're catchy and well produced. I had no idea that they generated any type of slightly negative reaction until this thread. I'm basing this 100% on 2 songs with no desire to watch their videos or view their promo pictures or album covers.

Xp that Owl city thing is probably the worst song of the last 5 years or so.. try She & him or like Cage the elephant or some shit... infinitely more offensive imo

― billstevejim, Wednesday, August 3, 2011 1:33 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

i love the completely turnaround this takes at the xpost -- gee you guys are overreacting this is so harmless but hey owl city is the devil

haha

Yeah isn't "Pumped Up Kicks" basically the Whiney Theme Song?

PUK has a good chorus

i mentioned this dude up thread, but i feel like Miike Snow gets mentioned in the same breath as foster the people in my IRL interactions with commoner non-music-nerd plebeians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVWeqAPQUXc

do we have to hear about every bearded fuck who heard bon iver last year?

i am constantly disappointed at genesis p-orridge's failure to erect even the most milquetoast of dicks

what does bon iver have to do w/ any of this

i had never heard of miike snow till i saw his name once in rolling stone -- i remember hearing one song & thinking it was good, but dude has bloodshy & avant doing his shit, so that's not a total surprise

if we can get to bon iver, we can fix all this trust me

i'm just bullshittin, i got foster the people confused with some other chimney sweep vampire weekend brit group with a similar name

boy i sure do hate chimneysweeps

bon iver is the shit

he plays in boston tonight (friday)

i am not going

Ned fox the fox are fairly obscure, first I heard them was actually as a loop on michael mayers "amanda"

― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Monday, July 25, 2011 12:40 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

! i had...no idea.

― apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, July 25, 2011 12:41 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

well i'll be damned

miike snow (a band, with multiple ppl) IS bloodshy and avant, lol. and i mean that literally unless i am mistaken.

well i'll be damned

oh that just blew my mind

i had the fox the fox song on my itunes, heh

it's so good!!!

It's one of those songs where you can drop it in a set and if people are already dancing and having fun, they get that "i feel like i should know this but i don't" look but by the third chorus half of them are singing along

i grabbed the whole album (from 'saltyka' if that helps) and it's all really good!

http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2011/08/24/139847516/songs-of-the-summer-pumped-up-kicks

I debated starting a thread about U.S. corporate indie bands __________ the __________ for these guys and Young the Giant.

I still think the big hit is ok and harmless, but getting Helena Beat stuck in my head has become somewhat torturous.

"i love the completely turnaround this takes at the xpost --gee you guys are overreacting this is so harmless but hey owl city is the devil"

I stand by what I said.

I'm just glad that this generation finally has its innocuous pop hit w/ barely-intelligible 'dark'/'disturbing' lyrics

('barely-intelligible' — referring both to the marble-mouthed singer and whatever ideas he might be trying to communicate)

The idea seems pretty straightforward rlly.

Instead of writing about victims and some tragedy, I wanted to get into the killer's mind, like Truman Capote did in In Cold Blood. I love to write about characters. That's my style. I really like to get inside the heads of other people and try to walk in their shoes.

Tim F. — maybe I shoulda said 'point' rather than 'ideas' — like, I get that this is 'about' some dude who killed some ppl but it's so vacuous I'm just like, ok who cares?

"... and I don't even know what" <— actual line from first verse

my wife had no idea the song had anything to do w/ guns or killing until i pointed out to her

Mine either.

stupid wives.

well we were watching the video on VH1 where the chorus is censored

I don't even have that excuse for my wife, the radio station she hears it on here isn't censoring it. But tbh, much of her music listening is when she's at work and she's really not a lyrics person unless a song really grabs her.

should I bother investigating these guys

to my knowledge I've never heard them, is it at all worth it or should I go back to bouncing up and down over the new Cage the Elephant album

No, don't bother. I've heard the whole album and its really boring. Fwiw, I do like this song well enough.

lol i can't tell if you're joking about Cage The Elephant

hahaha, well allow me to direct you here: stuff people will not believe is good but i swear it is part 4: The new Cage the Elephant record

I am kind of shocked that I like it, especially after thinking the Youtube vids on that thread were just okay, but hearing the whole album made a very strong argument for appreciating things in their context

I actually liked one or two songs on their last one, iirc.

ha between that and the AWOLNATION thread it might be the right time for a rolling nu-mainstream radio rock thread

I finally listened to some of their songs and I am relieved I do not like Foster the People.

Weezer played a cover of Foster The People's 'Pumped Up Kicks' on their North American tour earlier this week - scroll down and click below to see fan footage of the performance.

Rivers Cuomo's band included the track in their set at the Pacific Amphitheatre as part of the Orange County Fair on Thursday (August 4), alongside their regular cover of Radiohead's 'Paranoid Android'.

Elsewhere, the four-piece played a set leaning on earlier material such as 'Buddy Holly' and 'Hash Pipe' with a smattering of more recent tracks, such as 2009's '(If You're Wondering If I Want You To) I Want You To'.

Speaking to Spin.com about the nod, Foster The People bassist Cubbie Fink said it was "kind of mind-blowing" to be covered by Weezer.

Frontman Mark Foster added:

"Nine years ago, I met Rivers Cuomo at a party, and I had my acoustic guitar with me. He taught me how to play 'Say It Ain't So.' So nine years later, to watch him play one of my songs - it was wild. I can't wait to meet him and remind him of that story."

Weezer have further North American dates lined up across the next three months, including festivals slots at Calgary's X-Fest and Chicago RiotFest.

Meanwhile, Foster The People are due to return to the UK to play at Reading And Leeds Festivals and Belfast's Vital Festival later this month.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0D0M84oSk0

say it aint so is a fun song to play

omg weezer stfu

foster the people you love with love
show them the way that you feel

― buzza

weezer's been doing challopy covers for years now

they are very much the worst

"let's cover another top 40 hit so that someone blogs about it." "good idea rivers cuomo."

jesus their bassist's name is CUBBIE?

I'm as serious as cancer when I say there should be some kind of apartheid for those who don't like Weezer

i don't even know how to parse that

Like or listen to? Because I like Weezer fine, but mostly when I'm not listening to them.

My favorite thing about their Radiohead cover is that the drummer pulls off the sci-fi guitar solo. It's not, but I'd like to think of it as a little joke.

weezer's been doing challopy covers for years now

they are very much the worst

OTM. Which is why I'm glad that the only recent show of theirs I've seen was the Memories Tour where they stuck to their own songs.

It was really called the Memories tour? Like "memories of when you thought this band was good."

Pretty much, they played two nights in a row in each city, playing the blue album one night and Pinkerton the next (plus a "hits" set). But it was also around the time when the "Memories" single was out.

I despise Weezer so much now I don't even think I could be in for a nostalgia trip. I feel like mid-90s vanilla "alternative" culture has aged so poorly.

See, I still think Weezer is a decent singles band, even if their albums nowadays pretty much suck.

i hope we're talking about only the past 6 or 7 years of weezer, in which case i'm agreeing with every word of this.

But tbh, much of her music listening is when she's at work and she's really not a lyrics person unless a song really grabs her.

Sounds like ... me!

There's nothing wrong with that! I'm just often surprised when I reference something about lyrics in a popular song and she says, "oh, I never even noticed he/she said that".

Yeah, I sometimes have that conversation with my fiancee, too, just in reverse.

WEEZER COMPLETE DISCOGRAPHY POLL

Weezer 2.0 singles poll

weezer was a band id never even heard of until college. i dont know how i totally missed them in the 90s aside from general ignorance of 90s alt rock

yeah i mean they were pretty successful in the 90s but not exactly Nirvana or Green Day big, it was that cult following during the hiatus that kind of made them as recognized as they are today

deej i would guess that a general ignorance of 90s alt rock would be a good reason you would miss a band like weezer

although remember how the "buddy holly" video was a sample video on like, every PC that had windows 95???

if you were watching mtv on the reg in 1994 weezer were pretty hard to miss. if you were watching mtv on the reg in 1995 weezer were very easy to miss.

i mean i know pop-alt radio rock & was v. aware of like beck circa 'where its at' or 'pepper' but butthole surfers but somehow they totally passed me by

ahh yeah i didnt have cable

lol but butthole -- BY butthole

i wonder if they got less radio play or something?

i was watching The Box on the reg in 1994 and "Undone" was on around the clock

they got played a lot on alt/modern stations iirc but not much on "all of the hits" stations

they had "butthole" in their name

that explains it i suppose xp

i recall seeing the video for "el scorcho" exactly one. i didn't even know what the other singles from pinkerton were until the advent of wikipedia.

commemorative dn

lol

i recall seeing the video for "el scorcho" exactly one

Yeah MTV jumped off Weezer pretty quickly when it appeared Pinkerton was going to be a flop.

goodbye flop, son.

if you were watching mtv on the reg in 1994 weezer were pretty hard to miss. if you were watching mtv on the reg in 1995 weezer were very easy to miss.

"Say It Ain't So" was released as a single in summer 1995. I feel like they were a "thing" from 1994-96.

Yeah, they were in pretty heavy rotation through the release of Pinkerton, then everyone stopped caring.

hey guys guess what song i had in my head all day

― ( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:29 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark

boy that hook is insane-o catchy

the 5 years between pinkerton and the green album really 'made' weezer imo. alt teens in studded belts were dying to have their earpussies invaded by new 'zer by the time 2001 rolled around

you do it to me every time...

if we're gonna go back in time for analogous shit, i think pumped up kicks is more like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2UUvG-XuQs

to the extent that it "sounds current," is pretty stupid, and has crossed over to aaa oldsters everywhere

Geggy Tah's song never really was that big, though, Kurstin has definitely reached that audience as much and ten times over now as a producer

hipster puppy in that video

haha apparently kurstin actually worked on the foster the people album!

lol i should've known! that dude really had the last laugh on everyone still going 'lol geggy tah' 15 years later.

xp "Say It Ain't So" was more of a radio hit.. it wasn't really on MTV that much, especially compared to "Buddy Holly" which received very heavy airplay from Nov 94 til like March 95 iirc.

And I recall kids at my school going slightly apeshit over "El Scorcho" for about a month.

I wish I could ban this thread from SNA because every time I see it I think 'foster the peehole'

holy shit that geggy tah song was a blast from the past. not a huge hit, but it definitely got airplay. i never heard anything from pinkerton until years later when it was starting to acquire its rep. i remember spin giving it love in their year end issue (was it charles aaron who always did the 'year in review' essay?), but until right before the comeback (or i guess that reunion tour they did like a year before 'hash pipe'?) weezer were just another altradio band that disappeared after the followup to their hit album flopped (this might be an idea for a poll, big 90s altrock flops, though i'm not sure if you'd want to limit it to weezer/candlebox/etc one and done types or include adore/midnite vultures/etc.

that sounds like a personal problem, dude (xpost)

fucking hate foster the people fwiw.

weezer were just another altradio band that disappeared after the followup to their hit album flopped (this might be an idea for a poll, big 90s altrock flops, though i'm not sure if you'd want to limit it to weezer/candlebox/etc one and done types or include adore/midnite vultures/etc.

― balls, Monday, September 5, 2011 2:13 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark

yeah there were a lot of mid 90s bands that were HUGE for one album and then either flopped or just quietly petered out (Bush, Live, Third Eye Blind, etc.) but i'm not sure how to put that in poll form either

third eye blind qualifies? i thought their second album had a hit

and their first album had 5, which puts them under the "quietly petered out" qualifier

even the '90s survivors' like red hot chili peppers and green day suffered. maybe it was weariness w/ alt in general, but it seems like the only examples that built on or sustained success came early to mid decade - nirvana, pearl jam, rem, smashing pumpkins, stone temple pilots, oasis. when candlebox flopped second time out it was predictable, but when the same happened to live it seemed like a miracle. in another universe green day and offspring switch reactions to their big followups underperforming and dexter holland's our bono on broadway.

mind you i'd bet that candlebox flop outsells whatever this foster the people album tops out at.

90s one-album-wonders would be a better poll IMO.. in most cases, these were followed by at least one radio hit, so not technically sophomore slumps, but nothing that matched the load-blowing singles-heavy breakthrough LPs

fairweather johnson had 'hits'. these labels had incredible amounts of money invested in these acts, esp the ones that looked like baby u2s and paying whatever it took to get it on/keep it on radio was nothing, but once it was apparent it wasn't going to work, once it was apparent 'never let me go' wasn't as big as 'semicharmed life' or the new album dropped out of the top twenty after two weeks they cut bait quickly. can you even imagine something like the rem contract, based on the assumption that rem or any band that had already had a few big hit albums could keep having big hit albums, happening now? i do wonder if the end of the alt-era mirrors the end of the 70s easy riders raging bulls era in hollywood in that the studios/labels grew gradually less mystified and more in control and the 'artists' grew less inspired more bloated. puff daddy and britney spears as lucas and spielberg here.

so mad that the bevis & butthead version of that geggy tah video isnt on youtube

that really is disappointing

I finally heard "Pumped Up Kicks" on our local pop station

what the FUCK, ppl

like seriously, this is full-on bullshit garbage that you would pretend to like if it was your friend's band's demo, not something you should ever hear on mainstream radio

or even alternative radio, unless it's the station's "can you believe someone recorded this shit?" hour

People are lazy.

yeah I've been hearing it on pop radio too; I'm resolving to stop listening to pop radio as a result

the vocal's a war crime, tuneless warbling through distortion—this is the best you can do, American pop fans?

Let's just agree that they'e better than Owl City.

I cannot believe I am about to say this, considering that Owl City is basically the devil, but at least "Fireflies" is memorable even if your overwhelming reaction to said memory is "gah yuck anything but this... except Foster The People"

I am going to refer to them as Fester the Peehole from now on in a puerile attempt to make them interesting

^^^^^ u r a treat

I'm not gonna lie, I like the Gigamesh remix that Grady posted.

'Pumped Up Kicks' and 'Helena Beat' have apparently broken big on pop stations or an ad of sorts? A few of the younger people I have on facebook have been posting youtubes and lyrics of them in the past weeks and these are persons I know that never really listen to anything that isn't on the charts or outside their zone of comfort.

The last time some of these friends listened to anything remotely 'indie' it was probably MGMT's 3 'hits' and that was almost 4 years after they were released. I can see some kind of connection between FTP and MGMT tbh, they both appeal to the lowest common denominator.

man, if I'd read this thread instead of skimming it and seen the MGMT references I would have known how thoroughly I would hate this and have been better prepared for first contact

dan i specifically warned you about these people on a different thread

why didn't you warn my car radio not to play that shit at me

i dont have the BMW app for iphone!

i've heard "Pumped Up Kicks" on the local pop station between Katy and Ke$ha, yeah

these people over here ... these are people who do not wish to be fostered

http://static.grindtv.com/images/1/00/14/06/00/140600.jpg

foster the people i barely know er the people

i've heard "Pumped Up Kicks" on the local pop station between Katy and Ke$ha, yeah

― some dude, Wednesday, September 7, 2011 6:12 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

I would watch this pornographic film

http://cache.dealbreaker.com/uploads/2011/05/drudge-siren.gifALL THE LITTLE KIDS WITH THE FUCKED UP DICKShttp://cache.dealbreaker.com/uploads/2011/05/drudge-siren.gif

that one song is kind of like the diet mountain dew of songs

― call all destroyer, Monday, July 25, 2011 11:54 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark

i think this is the diet mountain dew of songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u89_AiQu9BQ

"Helena Beat" is almost as bad as "Fireflies."

DJP OTM ITT

surely pumped up dicks???

I wonder if these guys have a bizarre live show a la Arcade Fire, where they can come across flat and lifeless but burn down a stage

I'm guessing no

argh "flat and lifeless ON RECORD"

Lifelessly burning down a stage, my dream for years.

"You wanted something, you got something, the flattest act in the world, not Kiss..."

hahaha

"lifelessly burning down a stage" is a capsule synopsis for The XX's "Islands" video, so maybe that type of thing would totally be my bag

from "Helena Beat" comments:

Im a straight male, but god i would bang everyone in this band.

BarcaFan03 13 hours ago 13

http://media.photobucket.com/image/smh%20shaking%20my%20head/thenflchick/Gifs/SMH.gif

oops

http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo245/thenflchick/Gifs/SMH.gif

something about this band makes me think that they're the real life version of kyle's band from party down and "pumped up kicks" is an offensive-in-a-different-way version of "my struggle"

lol i think i'm going adopt that fantasy

These guys are resolutely not terrible. It's like their ambition.

I heard "Pumped Up Kicks" twice yesterday: from somebody's car as it pulled into CVS and driving home through the rain. I can't imagine listening to this on my iPod -- great chorus, limp verses -- but now that it's #3 on the Billboard singles chart we're going to hear this thing for the rest of our lives, like "Crazy," "You Get What You Give," and "Unbelievable."

we're going to hear this thing for the rest of our lives, like "Crazy," "You Get What You Give," and "Unbelievable."

Christ Almighty Al why don't you tell some kids there's no Santa just for good measure on this

something about this band makes me think that they're the real life version of kyle's band from party down and "pumped up kicks" is an offensive-in-a-different-way version of "my struggle"

― witchho (zachlyon), Thursday, September 8, 2011 5:18 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

from "Helena Beat" comments:

Im a straight male, but god i would bang everyone in this band.

BarcaFan03 13 hours ago 13

― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, September 8, 2011 1:05 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

see, that's what I said upthread yo, they suck but they are v smashable

the drummer is a fox

bassist is hot in a fratty SoCal way (also his name is Cubbie Fink? wtf is that), drummer is hipstery cute when he isn't smiling, but lead guy is bleh and has that dumb voice

The drummer is Williamsburg Incarnate, but man.

more Bushwick nowadays

http://twitter.com/#!/hipsterrunoff/status/114839738141249536

Im a straight male, but god i would bang everyone in this band.

does not compute

faster, the sweet hole

i made a spotify playlist w/songs mentioned on this thread that no one would ever want to listen to.

foster the lols - pumped up lols
http://open.spotify.com/user/christhamrin/playlist/1CTQsHDLGIGIajWgO9siZE

there is some horrifying stuff on that playlist

I think my favorite song on there is the Passion Pit song

lol. perfect playlist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXO-jKksQkM

this song is stupid but my 5 year old loves it so I give it a pass

oh my god this fuckin guy's dancing and 'stage moves' on snl right now

oh this is too much

they really should get him something to hold. a baby, a smoothie, anything

every single member of the band miming whistling to the the pre-recorded whistle hook is hilarious

they should've glued his hands to the mic

dude sure loves that sample of himself

a smoothie would be an inspired choice

maracas dude looked like he was gonna stage a mutiny on meth mouth singer dude

Dude looks like he's been awake for eight days.

Um, Kenny G surprise cameo? I don't think I could imagine bigger #hipsterbait than that.

I'm in love with the drummer :(

Wow guys, thanks for making me feel like I was half-asleep on the couch with a 103 degree fever while the end credits to some 1980s comedy about the awesomeness of business rolled and some shitty, generic tune about reaching for the top played. Also, thanks SNL for making me hate this band's music instead of just their name.

this song is stupid but my 5 year old loves it so I give it a pass

― akm, Friday, October 7, 2011 3:04 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Ditto! I heard my 7-year-old singing it (he probably picked it up from my wife's car radio). I had to warn him against singing it in school, because they don't like songs about shooting people there.

Which is the drummer? The dark haired one?

The blond Greenpoint type.

okay I get it

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqq6m13r1t1qlzndso1_500.jpg

^^^ yes

whiney u realize the reason you are upset about j0rdan & kids liking it is because you are a steward of hipster culture & this is like you walking in on your teenage son getting a blowjob
― night of the living based gods (flopson), Monday, July 25, 2011 4:02 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark

i just realize that this sort of neo 80s vibe stuff (at least visually speaking, but also there's the phil collins/kenny g lite rock revisionism to go w/ it) is exactly what to my hipper students codes as cool. and since i'm almost old enough to be their dads the comment above kind of makes sense.

btw my hipper students would not qualify as hip here i think.

fwiw this song struck me as inoffensively bland but the one guy who kept changing instruments needs a xanax for sure.

The chorus is a killer but the verses -- especially the distortion used to sing them -- are a wet towel.

HI DERE WHICH ONE YOU WANT

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsnn7seDDf1qcqn5eo1_500.gif

wait why aren't the ropes tied around their necks

The second song they did on SNL just sounded like it was composed of all the bits of songs a good producer would tell you to throw out.

oh my god this fuckin guy's dancing and 'stage moves' on snl right now

My beloved drummer was most guilty. It's as if standing behind a keyboard makes it impossible for one to just, you know, keep still.

These bros totally looked like they were made to take rock-star move lessons. Like, their A&R guy was all "you're almost there, you just need to learn the moves."

o man this band is very uncool (via hulu)

My beloved drummer was most guilty.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lssc07qDRk1qkvp19.gif

foster the people is stone temple pilots, mgmt is alice in chains, whois nirvana; srs question

Blake Shelton.

gdamn it alfred this is a srs question

why do they have to be so hot, argh

speaking as a non-gay they seem kinda generic

that very normative, bland frozen-yogurt-in-human-form quality gives off an imagined "str8 n hunky n clueless" vibe that is catnip for a certain kind of gay dude

^^^^ pretty much. But tbh it's not like they're hunter parrish level or anything.

well who is

Didn't have an opinion about this band, but now after watching them dance they are solid dudes, backed hard.

that very normative, bland frozen-yogurt-in-human-form quality gives off an imagined "str8 n hunky n clueless" vibe that is catnip for a certain kind of gay dude

― the tune is space, Sunday, October 9, 2011 11:41 AM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ah so

foster the people is stone temple pilots, mgmt is alice in chains, whois nirvana; srs question

― ice cr?m, Sunday, October 9, 2011 5:19 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

thought we concluded upthread that the answer was a nco?

that very normative, bland frozen-yogurt-in-human-form quality gives off an imagined "str8 n hunky n clueless" vibe that is catnip for a certain kind of gay dude

He pleads drunkenness when allowing you to grope him as the party winds down.

oh of course yeah xp

it's possible that despite the generation gap, flaming lips are the nirvana of little boy voice good vibes corporate indie

they might be the flipper of it

Maybe the Flaming Lips are the Neil Young/Crazy Horse.

AnCo really would be the Sonic Youth I think.

I don't know if there really is a Nirvana equiv per se.

Spacemen 3 as Black Flag?

"Pumped Up Kicks" is already 3 spots higher on the Hot 100 than "Teen Spirit" ever got, and is arguably as unlikely a runaway pop hit, so as sacrilegious as it is, for the purposes of this shaky analogy FTP themselves are kind of the Nirvana here imo

The SNL performance sealed the deal, this "Pumped Up Kicks" song is swell.

The second song just felt like Maroon 5, though. Are we sure these guys are indie?

only way the SNL performance flattered the song was by removing the stupid vocal effect from the verses

The appearance made me love the chorus. Dude sounds like a toad on those verses.

"Pumped Up Kicks" is already 3 spots higher on the Hot 100 than "Teen Spirit" ever got, and is arguably as unlikely a runaway pop hit, so as sacrilegious as it is, for the purposes of this shaky analogy FTP themselves are kind of the Nirvana here imo

― shiroimarkershoes (some dude), Sunday, October 9, 2011 10:50 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i just kneeeew someone would say that eventually

listening to the actual studio track for the first time since the performance, and yeah the verse vocal is annoying. They should just stick this chorus in the middle of "Young Folks"

it would actually be really hilarious if someone did that

and you guys, they're the knack. Fluke new wave hits get to be the knack.

"foster the people are the new nirvana - ROCK IS BACK!" - a1 sh1pley

Yeah, this dude is hot.

if you wanna play the grunge equals smarty-pop game, though, you gotta throw Phoenix and Vampire Weekend in there too

such bands helped set the stage for this game-changing chorus

Also The Drums.

I don't think they're a thing here

well they look and kinda sound even like The Drums but that band got dropped from their major label after album 1

really it's "young folks" which was one of the first runaway indie pop hits anyway

no fucking way - are the drums getting played on commercial radio?

the ting tings

was shocked to see young folks never even made the hot 100!

my fault for even touching a nirvana analogy convo -- single worst topic in music discussion ever imo

i think it literally hit 101

i never heard "young folks" on the radio once, felt like a strictly 'tv and movie licensing' thing in terms of US mainstream exposure

ppl should be remember that in 2011 the #1 rock song in the country frequently peaks at 70 something on the hot 100

aesthetically their whole image and their sound outside of "pumped up kicks" is pretty far from peter bjorn and john (and much closer to the phx, vampire weekend, mgmt universe) but the "pumped up kicks" chorus is such a rip of the "young folks" hook that you have to cite it as ground zero

wait is there a great distance between peter bjorn and john and mgmt now?

phoenix = meat puppets here

my fault for even touching a nirvana analogy convo -- single worst topic in music discussion ever imo

― shiroimarkershoes (some dude), Sunday, October 9, 2011 11:21 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well i never

not sure mgmt fans are old enough to remember peter bjorn and john tbh

i thought mgmt killed all their fans with that last album

xpost that sounds like it's right but FYI pretty much everyone I know in their 30s just loved Oracular Spectacular. And even the crowd for FTP when I saw them was pretty late 20sish.

"Young Folks" - F, D minor, C, A minor
"Pumped Up Kicks" - F minor, Ab, Eb, Bb

Each chord for two bars. Definite similarity and they start on the same pitch.

Or, sorry, one bar for each chord - both songs.

Music for photo assistants.

Utterly dreadful.

is it too late to call for jihad on this band

what did they do now?

never too late

The drummer stays with me.

The rest? Eliminate as you see fit.

what they did = someone mentioned them on the contemporary adult indie thread and I thought "that's right, I forgot they must die"

hi dere

http://b.vimeocdn.com/ps/157/402/1574025_300.jpg

psst puppy, try savaging the one holding the leash first, then you'll be able to get to the others

man I thought record companies still paid bands to get tans

foster the people you love with love

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1prhCWO_518

will a mod please fix my post or delete it, just make the decision after watching for a few secs tho

foster the peehole

lol @ this c&c music factory-lite shit tho

no way that song is getting popular as the song that started this thread, altho i can easily see it pulling thru on ppl's auteur dreams of foster the peehole

i don't think anyone ever said they'd ever have another song as big as "pumped up kicks"

i wasnt arguing!

that new one's kind of a jam? h8 "pumped up kicks" tho

I have been really, really depressed lately because the "Pumped Up Kicks" bassline keeps popping into my head uninvited

but yeah that new one isn't that bad. still not my thing, but there's something there. kinda cut copy-ish.

I almost think there's something admirable about "Pumped Up Kicks" in the way these dudes were probably like, "how awesome would it be to make a number one song about a kid shooting up his classmates".

Except they stalled at #3, but still. Like there's a small part of me that is impressed by how little people pay attention to the lyrics.

I wouldn't say "stalled." It parked itself in the top five for weeks, which means it maintained sales and airplay.

Okay, fair point.

wtf is up in that video? I can see the treatment: "The boys hang out in luxurious castle in their bare feet, playing with red food coloring. Explosions."

fwiw it was the #1 rock song in the country for a few weeks (and will probably be the 2nd biggest of the year) and it's practically unheard of for an alt-rock song got as high as #3 on the Hot 100 anyway

also they wrote it when they were unsigned and hadn't released a record so they probably had no idea it could ever be #1 on any chart

new video clip is irritating but damn blondie looks hot in it.

Tim knows where it's at. Blondie Drummer smearing lipstick on cadaverous cheeks is almost as hot as Bowie doing same in "Boys Keep Swinging" video.

feeling that new song

http://bit.ly/yt2faa

jesus ugh

Zac Efron is like that guy in high school you fucking hated because you wanted to be him so bad

CenkIsAdorable 2 minutes ago

he doesn't have a terrible voice

for a cyborg, but still

i would watch the hell out of a taylor swift/ zac efron reality show.

Still not sure why, but my P&J ballot was never counted towards the final results. "Pumped Up Kicks" did not finish tied for 10th with "Yonkers"; 10th place belonged to Foster the People all alone. I feel it's extremely important to get this on record--for the sake of the children, and for the future of rock and roll.

^^^ important post

seeing as both "Pumped Up Kicks" and "Yonkers" are crimes against humanity, all you've done is earned yourself a spot on the wall when the inevitable cultural revolution comes

taylor doing her best phoebe buffay in that clip

so apparently this guy is a touring DJ and I'm opening for him this Saturday

how did that go?

anyway, heard "pumped up kicks" tonight

ubiquitous in 2011, now it's never on

that one song is kind of like the diet mountain dew of songs

― call all destroyer,

more like the Subway of songs

don't they have a new record out? that's gonna disappear

http://www.stereogum.com/1670848/the-week-in-pop-the-mis-mgmt-of-foster-the-people/franchises/the-week-in-pop/

I dont hate Best Friend tbh

ts: foster the people vs portugal. the man

were one to draw a line where i became seriously old, one could do worse than right here

I heard "Don't Stop" the other day at Taco Bell.

apparently really big in south america

i still like 'helena beat' whenever i hear it in the wild

That's the closest they came to MGMT imo

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-foster-the-people-mural-supermodel-remove-20140711-story.html

by RANDY LEWIS
LA Times

Foster the People's 'Supermodel' mural in downtown L.A. must be removed by July 14

Foster the People’s massive downtown Los Angeles mural, unveiled in January ahead of the release of the band’s latest album, “Supermodel,” will be coming down sooner than expected because of conflicts with city officials over its approval.

“Our Supermodel mural must come down by July 14th,” the band’s Mark Foster said in a statement issued Friday. “This news has come as a surprise and disappointment to me and everyone else that collaborated on making this project happen. This mural was our contribution to the city of Los Angeles - our kiss of color to the city we love. The permits that we were told were approved, have retroactively been denied due to a number of issues involving the building and the city.”

The 125-by-150-foot painting occupies the wall of a building at 539 S. Los Angeles St. and provided the backdrop for a free show that Foster the People played on Jan. 23 in preparation for the March 18 release of the “Supermodel” album.

At that time, Foster said: “Living down here the last four years, I've gotten to be part of a cultural renaissance. I feel like Los Angeles has given us a lot, and we wanted to give something back. There's a lot of people who live down here, who walk past or ride the bus to work past that wall every day. They have no idea who we are, but they're going to be able to see a piece of art that's making their neighborhood more beautiful, even if they never listen to the band."

Foster’s new statement didn’t detail what led to the denial of permits, but the city’s regulations on murals require that they cannot be advertisements, and there’s been discussion in the community since it went up over whether the mural constitutes an ad for the “Supermodel” album or is a legitimate piece of art.

“Never did I think I would be involved in creating an art piece of this scale and magnitude,” Foster said in his statement. “We feel truly honored to have been able to share it with you over the last year. Art brings to life things that can seemingly be dead, and can put a fresh perspective on things that are living. It's so important we keep creating.”

He also noted that the group will document the painting over of the mural and invited people to the site on Monday from 8 a.m. to 7 p.m. to share their thoughts “about art, your history with Los Angeles, music, community, and anything else that you might have on your heart.”

A Foster the People fan has launched a Change.org petition to save the mural that had collected more than 2,400 signatures as of Friday afternoon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMQb_FcydxM

this band....just....can they not?

omg i had no idea this band was led by this type of raving assclown, awesome

Living down here the last four years, I've gotten to be part of a cultural renaissance.

better run from my gums, faster than my bullshit

lol

I'm late to this but I saw this thread and it reminded me of something...

That single of theirs was a bit of an earworm for me when it came out plus it was a little atypical from what I hear in the pop realm so it stuck out and I kinda liked it.

I liked it even more when I heard about the subject matter. School shootings are tragic but maybe if we talk about them a little more and a little differently we c an come up with some ways to try and curb them from happening down the road. And maybe since we apparently cannot discuss these things right after a shooting, maybe a song that referenced them could be the start of a conversation.

I know that's all a bit unlikely, but still, it was a thought.

Then I saw their stupid video. Instead of possibly hiring some up-and-coming videographer who could take the song's lyrics and make for a powerful visual statement akin to Pearl Jam's "Jeremy," the band just threw together some images of the band winking at girls in the crowd of shows and random-looking offstage hanging out.

It was a wasted opportunity for the band to make a real statement about something kinda important and I really haven't forgiven them for that.

You should not forgive them. Their lead singer does a terrible shruggy shoulders dance that is the worst.

The moral: don't go to videos for important statements

That's what the youtube comment section is for

I doubt they could get a conversation started about gun violence, if they can't even get a (wider, outside of this message board duh) conversation started about themselves these days.

meh Pumped Up Kicks is less Jeremy and more Come Out and Play imo

i always forget that the dudes last name is actually Foster, so lol/terrible

It's a pun on his surname. How wonderful.

i hate that i know this, but it was originally "Foster & The People" and when a show was promoted w/ a typo they decided they liked that name better. still annoying though.

Ctrl+f fester the
oh good someone did this for me

I actually like both of the new singles -- "Coming of Age" and "Best Friend." Kinda just get stuck in your head and don't leave.

the horrible shrug dance begins at 37 seconds

Hey-eyy, come out and age

"our kiss of color"

Looks like gangrene

Prediction still holds true 4 years in!

Moka wrote this on thread We're more than a third of the way through 2010 and we still don't have a thread for our favorite singles/songs/tracks of the year? on board I Love Music on Jul 12, 2010

Foster The People - pumped up kicks

http://bit.ly/akFkng

So yep... it's sort of 'young folks' revamped and most of ilm might hate it but I'm extremely addicted to this song atm.

Meaning I predicted this hate thread by a full year.

at first glance i was like hey as far as murals/street art goes, that's not a terrible one but once i got a closer look, yikes

http://i.imgur.com/KtyMBGu.jpg

I liked it even more when I heard about the subject matter. School shootings are tragic but maybe if we talk about them a little more and a little differently we c an come up with some ways to try and curb them from happening down the road. And maybe since we apparently cannot discuss these things right after a shooting, maybe a song that referenced them could be the start of a conversation.

yeah this def worked

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-foster-the-people-mural-saved-mayor-garcetti-supermodel-20140714-story.html

By RANDY LEWIS
LA Times

Foster the People’s “Supermodel” mural in downtown Los Angeles, which had been scheduled to be painted over, has been given a full reprieve by Mayor Eric Garcetti and will remain, according to the band’s publicist.

An online petition to save the mural, signed by nearly 12,000 people, and coverage of the story in The Times were cited in Garcetti’s decision to intervene.

“We just received a call from the mayor’s office,” Foster the People tweeted late Sunday. “@EricGarcetti saw your petition and decided against repainting the wall. The Mural Stays!”

The 125-by-150-foot mural went up in January on the side of a building at 539 S. Los Angeles St. in January, part of a free performance the band gave ahead of the March release of its latest album, “Supermodel.”

Foster the People leader Mark Foster said the mural, replicating the cover of the album, was created as his way of giving something back to the city of Los Angeles, and the downtown area where Foster lives.

But some argued that it constituted an advertisement for the band and the album, and regulations on murals in the city stipulate that they cannot be ads.

Resident Hanna Ross started the petition to preserve the mural at Change.org, and it quickly gathered thousands of signatures. “The mayor’s office cited the petition and your coverage as big influences on the decision,” the band’s spokesman told Pop & Hiss on Monday.

The band and fans turned what was to be the daylong filming of the painting over of the mural on Monday into a celebration of its preservation. The artwork was created by Dutch artist Young & Sick and painted on the building over the course of nearly two weeks in December and January by artist Daniel Lahoda, street artist Leba and graffiti art groups L.A. Freewall and Vyal.

Additional coverage is coming soon on the Times' Culture Monster blog and in Calendar.

K, thanks for the mural!

-LA

if people already dont give a shit about the album, what's the exponential on how lame is this mural going to be in like, a year's time

I agree w LimbsKing on this tbh

Def state of the art fake-indie for the radio

I didn't care much about the first album but I like this one. I don't like set aside time to listen to it but there are moments where I remember it exists and like giving it a listen.

New one is an instant strip club classic

https://open.spotify.com/track/4BdGO1CaObRD4La9l5Zanz?si=CdK0BYHd

And so is "doin it for the money" obv

I have finally found a version of "Pumped-Up Kicks" that I like:

https://youtu.be/HRVWaK-izbo

Just think: had "Pumped Up Kicks" been released last year it might've gone #1 on streams alone a la Twenty-Obe Pilots.

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