Last broadcast today, 01:00 on BBC 1Xtra.SYNOPSISQ is back from Ibiza and plays out his set from Toddla T's room at Space. Plus some brand new exclusives from the Boy Better Know compilation Tropical 2.
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 11:47 (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
OMG royal-t, dj q and preditah have tracks on there
and it's out on sunday
a tremendous sense of destiny and personal vindication accompanies my clicking of the play button here, not gonna lie to yall
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 11:53 (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
OMG that gif.
Agreed, this sounds exciting and (for you) vindicating.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 21:15 (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
haha you know you've probably gone too far when you feel gently ribbed by someone agreeing with you.
the clips sound pretty great, although as with all sequels it'd be foolish to expect much more than a banging celebratory tribute to the first rather than anything approaching its still-unearthly occult power. such a slam dunk of a postscript tho, 5 years on!
everyone seems to be darkly hinting at a super special guest producer on it as well, i'm trying to work out who's big enough of a deal. #thankyoubasedtodd?
― r|t|c, Thursday, 11 August 2011 09:11 (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i don't even listen to tropical 1 that much tbh, maybe once a year? but that one time is like a seance. in my inevitable rambling descent into marcelloblivion i should like to do a 33⅓ book on it someday probably.
― r|t|c, Thursday, 11 August 2011 09:20 (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Haha that "for you" isn't meant to be as damning as I realise in retrospect it comes across.
― Tim F, Thursday, 11 August 2011 11:33 (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
http://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/tropical-2/id456852136?affId=1503186
― r|t|c, Sunday, 14 August 2011 10:58 (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
2 weeks pass...
Tropical 2 is great! Everything is excellent and DJ Q esp. fits right in. But my favourite is still JME, still sounds like music beamed in from another galaxy entirely.
― Tim F, Monday, 29 August 2011 11:54 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
oh good, i was meaning to bump this thread but i didn't wanna harp on. yes i think it's wonderful! (and far better than i was expecting).
i'm particularly taken with the way it follows on from 'holiday' in characteristic sunny, determined fashion (preditah and dj q as seamless skepta and plastician stand-ins) and then how the royal-t and todd tracks seem to correspond to some kind of emancipatory release; 'cool down' this exhilarating, exultant blast of pure air and bright outside daylight streaming in through an unexpected yet somehow always destined fissure, 'the stranger' (obsessed with why this is called this!) a carefree frolic through eden warm and benevolent. and then... then the fall, turning its back on redemption, spiralling and plunging deeply back down to unfathomable abyssal depths so disquieting in their ultimate sense of benumbed ambivalent comfort and poisoned sweetness, cheap and familiar as the titular closing common commercial sigils of tropicana and easyjet.
i applaud these young men for enhancing further the scope of their strange work.
― r|t|c, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:04 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Yes, LOVE "Cool Down", not at all the contribution I was expecting from Royal-T!
― Tim F, Monday, 29 August 2011 20:48 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
This. Fucking. Album.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 11:23 (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Album of the year maybe.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 21:36 (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Tim F, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:10 (fourteen years ago)
I don't get why it's not listed from the Boy Better Know audio page. Unless I'm missing it.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 22:13 (fourteen years ago)
rtc is so right about the flow of this mix, the way it plunges from the exhilarating heights of "cool down" and "the stranger" to the mysterious depths of "sandy beach" and "easy jet", although really diverse the whole release still sounds so singular andcohesive in concept.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:17 (fourteen years ago)
I was all set to listen to Terius's shoddy knockoff album but fuck that now.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:28 (fourteen years ago)
I'm sayin', bro!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjqbDGvYuoU
― Tim F, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:31 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8nCWTdrZEk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZnAKwrGYu4&feature=related
― Tim F, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:44 (fourteen years ago)
yeah this one is great, hasn't left my car stereo in weeks. how about those preditah tracks? 'new york' is like if someone ground up the voices from 'getting me down' in a blender and painted their guts all over the wall, wonky stans (do they still exist?) ought to be swooning. though maybe someone can explain why the mixing is so... i mean i appreciate starting it with 'holiday' but what's the point if the next track is basically vomited onto your lap?
― lucas pine, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:55 (fourteen years ago)
idk i couldn't say any of the transitions have struck me as "jarring" in the finer sense of the word - queasy, rushed (rushy!), ungainly sometimes perhaps but never anything that's dispelled the flow; in fact they've only intensified the tracks, in strange and curious ways.
generally speaking, such is the offworld microclimate they create that i tend to hear the tropicals almost as long single pieces rather than mixes per se - it seems unsatisfactory even to pick single tracks out.
― r|t|c, Thursday, 1 September 2011 01:03 (fourteen years ago)
although actually a key element of the jarringness you talk about is how it's indicative of the tropicals' grime dna rather than simply just being about a relatively smooth ukg homage. i do think of these as grime albums.
― r|t|c, Thursday, 1 September 2011 01:06 (fourteen years ago)
awesome towards the end of 'skippy swing' where 'cool down' is slowly coming in and the vocal sample sounds like "don't! - don't!" with the ominous synth rising... instant sense of danger, but slowly getting drawn in and seduced by it until - "cmon!" that 4/4 suddenly bursts out and totally sweeps you away
― r|t|c, Thursday, 1 September 2011 01:35 (fourteen years ago)
last three posts OTM.
― Tim F, Thursday, 1 September 2011 02:54 (fourteen years ago)
Haven't had a chance to dig into this yet but really really happy Todd Edwards is part of this!
― etc, Thursday, 1 September 2011 08:30 (fourteen years ago)
Loving this - listened to it after dark last night and it gave me that sort of giddy feeling of anticipation you get when you're getting ready and having your first beer before going out dancing. Love love love the Royal T track.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:29 (fourteen years ago)
― Tim F
^^ this
― rusty_allen, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:57 (fourteen years ago)
― etc, Thursday, 1 September 2011 09:30 (9 hours ago) Bookmark
havent had a chance to listen yet but basedtodd has an interview and mix on dj q's show this week just fyi
― r|t|c, Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:50 (fourteen years ago)
cosign
xp
― Pizzataco Five (admrl), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:53 (fourteen years ago)
but then, you know, I would
Also, I would like Tim Finney to list his albums of the year so far!
― Pizzataco Five (admrl), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:55 (fourteen years ago)
One of things I absolutely love about "cool down" is the inevitability of its staged levels of euphoria: cut up vocals into dirty bassline into chiming xylophone into swirling harmonies.
― Tim F, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:27 (fourteen years ago)
Adam I really don't have many! Mostly been listening to tracks and radio sets this year. Destroyer, Beyonce, Dawn Richard, PJ Harvey, E-40, mixes by Dave Nada, Ame.... And then of course unofficial mixes by DJ E1D, Ill Blu, Funkystepz, Andy J and S-T, Royal-T, Dillon Francis, Matthew Kyle... Perhaps you can tell me what I've been missing!
― Tim F, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:38 (fourteen years ago)
No, I'm clueless, really. This is good. PJ Harvey is good. I like Shabazz Palaces. Active Child. Robag. Locussolus. blahblahblah
― Pizzataco Five (admrl), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:40 (fourteen years ago)
Planningtorock would be in there for me.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:43 (fourteen years ago)
I haven't heard that!
― Pizzataco Five (admrl), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:46 (fourteen years ago)
dirty beaches, too! (not likely to be tim f.'s thing, i'm guessing).
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:48 (fourteen years ago)
love this shit
― swagliacci (The Reverend), Friday, 2 September 2011 02:53 (fourteen years ago)
omg at this
― mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Friday, 2 September 2011 02:56 (fourteen years ago)
listening to this i feel like there is a large escalator in my body and the people travelling up it wear intensely reflective shades, oh yeah
― mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Friday, 2 September 2011 02:58 (fourteen years ago)
dying
― swagliacci (The Reverend), Friday, 2 September 2011 03:03 (fourteen years ago)
god it just EXPLODES with the royal-t track doesn't it
i keep singing "show me love" on top of it
― lex pretend, Friday, 2 September 2011 08:15 (fourteen years ago)
haha yes! i thought the same thing
― just sayin, Friday, 2 September 2011 08:33 (fourteen years ago)
It just dawned on me that DJ Q's "Keep it Cool" samples the Lee Foss track of the same name. Either that or they both used the same sample source.
Great, great album.
― matt damon & the jb's (the anephric project), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:03 (fourteen years ago)
Seems that the sample source for both tracks is "Baby" by Brandy. However, I swear that DJ Q took it from the Lee Foss track specifically.
― matt damon & the jb's (the anephric project), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:11 (fourteen years ago)
I don't know who these people are or what this is, but it sounds pretty nice to me (based on the youtube tracks anyway) on first listen. "The Stranger," especially.
― _Rudipherous_, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:27 (fourteen years ago)
brandy samples are seemingly everywhere right now (or at least, the tracks that sample her stand out from all the other producers lazily c/ping r&b samples into their tracks) - this, lee foss, blawan's "getting me down"...
― lex pretend, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:29 (fourteen years ago)
Don't know why I like this so much.
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 4 September 2011 16:40 (fourteen years ago)
... because it's amazing?
― Tim F, Sunday, 4 September 2011 21:00 (fourteen years ago)
Is the commercially available version as quiet as the (possibly dodgy) leak I've been listening to? It's by far the quietest dance music on my ipod at the moment.
― Matt DC, Monday, 5 September 2011 10:51 (fourteen years ago)
i dont think its particularly quiet, and its only like £4.50 on itunes so its worth paying for
― just sayin, Monday, 5 September 2011 10:57 (fourteen years ago)
it is a bit quiet yeah (particularly the first track) but only really in the sense that i can't make my ears bleed with it like usual.
― r|t|c, Monday, 5 September 2011 11:32 (fourteen years ago)
(mine's a rare purchase btw but i strongly doubt the leak would be any different)
― r|t|c, Monday, 5 September 2011 11:34 (fourteen years ago)
obv coming from a totally different position but i can kinda sympathise with what rudipherous is saying - meaningless is probably the wrong word but the tropicals do seem so isolated from narratives or trends or whatever, for me at least i find them such an unusually blank canvas to dwell on. you really can fill them with whatever you want almost.
this unrepresentativeness is consequently also why i shy away from album of the year talk here; they seem more like the sort of thing you'd have lurking at number 3 in a year and then come back with them topping the decade
― r|t|c, Monday, 5 September 2011 11:43 (fourteen years ago)
Is it that unrepresentative? It doesn't feel like that to me - certainly in the wider narrative of what else is going on at the moment, particularly with all the 90s references, Todd-biting etc. It's a grimier version of that obviously but tbh I tend to avoid Boy Better Know much of the time but that's mostly because I can't abide JME and Skepta's clunky MCing.
― Matt DC, Monday, 5 September 2011 11:55 (fourteen years ago)
Sorry that last sentence is a bit garbled, I mean to say I don't know how it fits in with whatever else BBK are doing at the moment.
― Matt DC, Monday, 5 September 2011 11:56 (fourteen years ago)
But I hate lots of amazing stuff! One thing I like about it is the way the balance between parts (and I guess I partly just mean balance between treble and bass and that sort of thing) seems very precise and distinctive. I'm not enough of an audiophile to begin to break it down though.
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 5 September 2011 14:39 (fourteen years ago)
Maybe this is my way of describing the quietness others are hearing.
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 5 September 2011 14:48 (fourteen years ago)
am kind of wondering whether i'm hearing the same thing as everyone else: i love love love this but i hear no quietness at all, and also "ineffable beauty" isn't the first phrase i'd think of to describe it
― lex pretend, Monday, 5 September 2011 14:50 (fourteen years ago)
My copy (the leak) is pretty quiet compared to everything else I've got. I'd buy it to compare but I don't see where to buy a digital copy in the states.
― matt damon & the jb's (the anephric project), Monday, 5 September 2011 16:02 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, my leaked copy is pretty quiet. I'd buy it, but again, not available in the US.
― swagliacci (The Reverend), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:05 (fourteen years ago)
the copy i found is actually a purchased itunes copy
it's naturally quiet
― mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:11 (fourteen years ago)
also "ineffable beauty" isn't the first phrase i'd think of to describe it
I find tunes like "Easy Jet" really beautiful and eerie, alien ballet music almost.
I guess it's really only the JME tracks that are totally like that, but they seem to cast a spell that sweeps up the other tunes as well.
― Tim F, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:19 (fourteen years ago)
is this thread about doc daneeka?
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:26 (fourteen years ago)
http://midnight-shadows.org/images/smilies/folded.gif
― Tim F, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:38 (fourteen years ago)
blawan actually
he's the new burial i heard
― r|t|c, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:41 (fourteen years ago)
hey tim i don't suppose you were planning to pitchfork this? normally couldnt give a fig but i think it might be cool this once
― r|t|c, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:42 (fourteen years ago)
pitched but not heard back yet.
― Tim F, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:43 (fourteen years ago)
blawan's "getting me down" is actually really good
― lex pretend, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:48 (fourteen years ago)
haven't felt anything else i've heard by him though
― lex pretend, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:49 (fourteen years ago)
first of all, i was real disappointed when i learned, from fucking mary ann hobbs of all people, that blawan is not pronounced to rhyme with "oh, do go on", but instead to rhyme with "IT'S BLOWING UP", which is the sort of pun i expect from the freestylers or something
that said i think he's more the new ramadanman maybe?
not sure who the new burial is going to be, maybe arkist & kidkut?
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Tuesday, 6 September 2011 01:12 (fourteen years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/IxhWx.gif
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 13:14 (fourteen years ago)
Love it, but no idea what it means in this context.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 13:16 (fourteen years ago)
le mempris
― zvookster, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 13:19 (fourteen years ago)
le my reaction to v's post is all
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 13:22 (fourteen years ago)
rtc's gif is freaking me out a bit, with the whole only-the-stirring-hand-moves aspect.Loads of good stuff on this mix though. Love the Todd tune plus New York by Preditah amongst other things.Do I deserve to be shot if I say that I've never actually heard the 1st Tropical mix? Need to sort this out.
― Mr Andy M, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 16:50 (fourteen years ago)
vahid's just shit tea stirring, never mind him.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 20:56 (fourteen years ago)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_leaf_paradox
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 21:15 (fourteen years ago)
Is it that unrepresentative? It doesn't feel like that to me - certainly in the wider narrative of what else is going on at the moment, particularly with all the 90s references, Todd-biting etc. It's a grimier version of that obviously but tbh I tend to avoid Boy Better Know much of the time but that's mostly because I can't abide JME and Skepta's clunky MCing.― Matt DC, Monday, 5 September 2011 12:55 (Yesterday) Bookmark
― Matt DC, Monday, 5 September 2011 12:55 (Yesterday) Bookmark
tim not to kneecap any pending rvw but what's your stance on this? i maintain its isolation but find myself unable or unwilling to break it down in any helpful factual clarity without spouting off about my skin being swept by a secret air or whatever whatever.
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 21:37 (fourteen years ago)
A bit of both really.
The core tropical sound was bred in isolation and sounds like it, but it makes a better fit in 2011 than in 2006 - in large part due to the rehabilitation of instrumental grime and (related but separately) what dj q is doing. It feels more like a missing piece of a puzzle now.
What has changed are our (my?) ears more than anything else. I loved the first tropical, but (in part because I had to wait until it physically turned up over here) it felt like a snapshot of a moment that had already past or perhaps never was. The sequel feels more like an event that could happen.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 22:20 (fourteen years ago)
What is tropical a sub-category of here? House? Grime?! Is this really considered grime? I see that it's connected, but it doesn't sound like what I've heard of grime. (Unsurprisingly, I haven't heard a ton of it.) Sorry to interrupt more expert discussion, but I honestly don't even know what the best genre label for this is. To me, most of it sounds like house. Actually the reason I clicked on this initially is that I thought it might have something to do with Brazil, haha.
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 22:30 (fourteen years ago)
The JME tracks are definitely instrumental grime. DJ Q's tracks are kind of fitful syncopated post-bassline (itself a fast variant of house). Todd Edwards is house. The Royal-T tune is house obv but he mostly makes instrumental grime. The Preditah tunes are kind of in the centre of those vectors.
All of which is very reflective of the kind of amalgam sound which DJ Q in particular is pushing.
Back in the day there was always this thread of hyper-melodic twinkly-sparkly grime that I guess is the genetic source material for the JME tunes in particular - lots of productions from Jammer, Low Deep, Rapid, Target/Danny Weed fit that mould.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 22:42 (fourteen years ago)
can someone who knows what's up give a thumbnail history of todd edwards' involvement in this? (that interview's not available to me.)
― goole, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 00:47 (fourteen years ago)
'cool down' sounds to me like an instrumental "update" (so to speak) of 'show me love'/'push the feeling on'. and it's as great as that definition might get...
― rusty_allen, Thursday, 8 September 2011 13:51 (fourteen years ago)
What else is similar to this mix?
― _Rudipherous_, Thursday, 8 September 2011 15:43 (fourteen years ago)
poop
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 8 September 2011 16:46 (fourteen years ago)
I will give that a try.
― _Rudipherous_, Thursday, 8 September 2011 19:06 (fourteen years ago)
how about some atmospheric, intelligent deep funky?
http://oi51.tinypic.com/351erde.jpg
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 10 September 2011 03:33 (fourteen years ago)
That sounds pretty good but srsly what's the point of all the trolling vahid? It's not like the stuff you want to talk about is roundly ignored on the dance partisans thread.
― Tim F, Saturday, 10 September 2011 03:48 (fourteen years ago)
i'm sorry, i can't help it
last time, i promise
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 10 September 2011 03:49 (fourteen years ago)
It's not like the stuff you want to talk about is roundly ignored on the dance partisans thread.
btw, for the record: 50% of the posts on that thread are jimitheexploder promoting sonic router. the other 50% are basically me, jimi and EDB. you've posted on it once and rob's posted on it never.
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Sunday, 11 September 2011 16:33 (fourteen years ago)
it's a barely disguised plea for attention
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Sunday, 11 September 2011 16:34 (fourteen years ago)
Yes well I mostly don't like that stuff as much as I like what I like.
NB. I posted about 40 times and r|t|c about 10 times on last year's dance partisans thread. Now we tend to use the Ill Blu thread to talk about dance partisans-y shit that's actually banging.
― Tim F, Sunday, 11 September 2011 20:37 (fourteen years ago)
tim's on his hardman stump today. I approve.
― dayo, Sunday, 11 September 2011 20:44 (fourteen years ago)
so what you're saying is that i should be trolling the ill blu thread?
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Sunday, 11 September 2011 20:48 (fourteen years ago)
i'm just surprised on the r&b remix thread you're roundly avoiding and refusing to name mersh house like axwell after years of trying to get people to talk about it...
i feel like i might like this record, though there's no hurry to hear it, i will do though at some stage, stealthily, i might never post here about it either.
― LocalGarda, Sunday, 11 September 2011 20:52 (fourteen years ago)
that sounded more anti-ilm than i intended it to...
― LocalGarda, Sunday, 11 September 2011 20:53 (fourteen years ago)
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― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Sunday, September 11, 2011 8:48 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark
the natural community for atmospheric, deep intelligent funky is probably the uk funky forum on funkysouls, but otherwise sure.
― Tim F, Sunday, 11 September 2011 21:00 (fourteen years ago)
wait, what thread is this?
― The Reverend, Sunday, 11 September 2011 21:07 (fourteen years ago)
R&B/Rap tracks where the dance remix is superior
― LocalGarda, Sunday, 11 September 2011 21:09 (fourteen years ago)
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 10 September 2011 04:33 (2 days ago) Bookmark
http://i.imgur.com/ARBHl.gif
― r|t|c, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:26 (fourteen years ago)
lol i actually had to scan the thread a few times before it occurred to me i was "rob"
yeah i did post a few times on partisans before i realised it was always gonna be a fundamentally un-sympatico zone and it wasnt worth the time working out the differences
in any case it's impossible to fathom the atmospheric, intelligent deep trolling that runs up on the one thread in known existence trying to discuss this record in order to whine about poor underappreciated lambs like julio bashmore not getting their internet props
― r|t|c, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:37 (fourteen years ago)
Haha I tried to find a gif for intelligent trolling for this thread the other day and I could come up with is:
http://derbyimages.woot.com/2708679/8df485ea-d179-45ae-bed7-f26062188fed.jpg
― Tim F, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:39 (fourteen years ago)
http://images.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/9936903.jpg
― r|t|c, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:55 (fourteen years ago)
I didn't know this thread would turn out to be so full of controversy.
― Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 00:41 (fourteen years ago)
im so confused abt where the battle lines are any more
― D-40, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 04:42 (fourteen years ago)
i wd like some regular guy raps about being a drug kingpen over intelligent beats w/ acid ibiza bloodfart textures and diva choruses is that so much to ask??? lots of feminine pressure but with an IDM twist
― D-40, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 04:44 (fourteen years ago)
lol king'pen'
There are no battle lines.
The music Vahid is talking about has zero to do with the music in this thread (even in some kind of music critic fake antagonistic sense) except for the occasional use of the word "Tropical".
― Tim F, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 05:20 (fourteen years ago)
Still playing catch up with this, been out the loop. Can't get enough Royal T and Preditah at the moment, they're so good.
― jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 12:51 (fourteen years ago)
http://soundcloud.com/dafilms-1/c4-off-track
^ predz' og grime version. LOVE IT.
― r|t|c, Friday, 16 September 2011 13:21 (fourteen years ago)
That's fantastic.
― Tim F, Friday, 16 September 2011 21:13 (fourteen years ago)
i'mnotperfectthoughsometimesi'm OFF TRAAAAACK butthenigetbackon i'mnotperfectthoughsometimesi'm OFF TRAAAAACK butthenigetbackoni'mnotperfectthoughsometimesi'm OFF TRAAAAACK butthenigetbackoni'mnotperfectthoughsometimesi'm OFF TRAAAAACK butthenigetbackoni'mnotperfectthoughsometimesi'm OFF TRAAAAACK butthenigetbackoni'mnotperfectthoughsometimesi'm OFF TRAAAAACK butthenigetbackon
rly tho
amazing track
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 13:00 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKFvSbwiP0g
here's some roll deep x predz for a laff
riddim is - appropriately enough looking at scratchy in his dotage - called 'gargoyle'
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 13:04 (fourteen years ago)
haha wait is manga wearing a cassie shirt there...?
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 13:07 (fourteen years ago)
just in case some ppl in this thread dont check pitchfork - http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/15888-tropical-2/
― just sayin, Friday, 7 October 2011 15:05 (fourteen years ago)
I read Tim's review, and what I find interesting is that I get very little sense of darkness or creepiness in this music. I want to give this another listen with the review in mind. Of course, most of the review just goes right past me with it's reference to the larger dance music context. (Also had not realized UK funky was so new!)
― Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Friday, 7 October 2011 16:25 (fourteen years ago)
darkness and creepiness from that review? i think that's a misunderstanding of the mix of rough and smooth being "estranging and disquieting." (or "the ineffable beauty")
― zvookster, Friday, 7 October 2011 16:34 (fourteen years ago)
What Preditah-- and everyone else here-- recognizes is how mixing in the smooth with the rough simply makes the latter more estranging and disquieting.
I don't agree with this, as a general rule, or even here specifically.
This is very subjective, but I think, if I had to, I'd interpret the most jittery, chopped up, disquieting part of "New York" as a reflection of the external (urban) world*, and the smoother parts as internal. And all, or maybe almost all, of what sounds uncanny on Tropical 2 I identify with longing, so it doesn't end up feeling particularly alien. Though in the last sentence of the review, Tim brings that alien-ness home to us as individuals. I still feel too much sense of recognition to want to describe what's here as alien.
*And pretty sure I'd hear it that way minus the title.
Agree with this:
Best of all are the interstitial moments between tracks when one contorted, molten shape deliquesces into another, beats interlocking in strange patterns of the residual and emergent while melting hiccup vocals form impromptu harmonies.
Listening to "Skippy Swing" now and thinking, geez, maybe yes to darkness after all. Still not really eerie, because I recognize all of it as a reflection of familiar feeling.
― Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Friday, 7 October 2011 17:05 (fourteen years ago)
(Once again, I almost want to say excuse my presence on a dance thread, but I'm pretty sure the only new (and not just new-to-me) music I've really clicked with this year has been "dance music.")
― Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Friday, 7 October 2011 17:07 (fourteen years ago)
Maybe I just have a particularly and troubled weird inner life.
― Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Friday, 7 October 2011 17:10 (fourteen years ago)
Also, to talk about one minor detail, I love the "goin' down" vocal repeat near the beginning of "The Stranger," although it's not anything particuarly out of the ordinary.
― Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Friday, 7 October 2011 17:12 (fourteen years ago)
I think in some ways this music seems so intuitively eerie to me (esp. the JME tracks, ad obv. not "Cool Down" or "The Stranger") that it may not have occurred to me to unpack that as much as I should - but I definitely don't mean darkness. Apart from the Super Mario Bros reference, an example of comparable eeriness (in feel/tone, not sonics so much) would be stuff like Jungle Wonz. Or Foul Play circa "Being With You".
For the sake of comparison here's "Being With You":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVZmtuiUQg0
The part you disagree with here - the idea of the smooth and the comforting simply underscoring the exotic or the estranging - is perhaps the key point to me! Though the caveat is that all of this sense of eerieness/mysteriousness/estrangement is not any barrier to intimate enjoyment of the music, rather it's the thing that keeps me coming back because for all that I totally clicked with this music immediately I still feel like there is more to discover and uncover there. It's like at the early infatuation stage of a relationship where the bits of the other person you don't understand seem really fascinating and compelling, all thrown into relief by the great sex and the fact that you find them really attractive etc.
― Tim F, Friday, 7 October 2011 21:22 (fourteen years ago)
The Ineffable Beauty of DJ Beez's Bassline Dubz With A Buzz
loth as i am to prostrate myself but did anyone get round to sampling these more rudimentary familial pleasures
first 14 tracks in particular i had in mind
― r|t|c, Friday, 7 October 2011 21:46 (fourteen years ago)
stupid question i guess - can i get this on cd or vinyl. or wav.
― ah, how quaint (Matt P), Saturday, 19 November 2011 00:30 (fourteen years ago)
is it seriously itunes only or am i just a google feeb.
― ah, how quaint (Matt P), Saturday, 19 November 2011 00:43 (fourteen years ago)
guess it's mp3 only. shame! i mean, this thing is amazing.
― ah, how quaint (Matt P), Saturday, 19 November 2011 01:07 (fourteen years ago)
Boy Better Know's set here is pretty massivehttp://rinse.fm/2012/01/rinse-boxing-day-fabric-room-1-sets/
― Number None, Friday, 13 January 2012 13:27 (fourteen years ago)
can anybody hook me up with tropical 1? can't find it anywhere
― The Reverend, Monday, 16 January 2012 01:50 (fourteen years ago)
i have this http://grimepedia.co.uk/wiki/Boy_Better_Know_(Edition_4)_-_Tropical
― moullet, Monday, 16 January 2012 14:29 (fourteen years ago)
Can't find it for download anywhere.
There's a new DJ Q cd out. Anyone know if it's Tropicalish/generally worth getting?
― oppet, Monday, 16 January 2012 17:26 (fourteen years ago)
that's what i'm after, moullet. can you hook a brother up?
― The Reverend, Monday, 16 January 2012 17:35 (fourteen years ago)
i don't have time tonight but if no one's done it by tomorrow lemme know rev
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Monday, 16 January 2012 17:35 (fourteen years ago)
ive got it, but only 128kbps?
― just sayin, Monday, 16 January 2012 18:29 (fourteen years ago)
yeah i've been looking for it too :/
― uberweiss, Monday, 16 January 2012 18:35 (fourteen years ago)
lex, do you have it in better quality than that?
― The Reverend, Monday, 16 January 2012 18:42 (fourteen years ago)
y
uh anyone who wants it, webmail me your email address or something? i am not planning on posting any links here
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:04 (fourteen years ago)
i have it 192 kbps. its in your email the reverend. (:
― moullet, Monday, 16 January 2012 19:50 (fourteen years ago)
yay! thank you
― The Reverend, Monday, 16 January 2012 21:50 (fourteen years ago)
ooh, full "The Stranger"
http://soundcloud.com/todd-edwards/the-stranger
― The Reverend, Friday, 9 March 2012 05:04 (fourteen years ago)
would love a full "cool down"
― bass, Friday, 9 March 2012 08:44 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, the "Cool Down"/"Off Track"/"The Stranger" segment is the best run of the album imo
― The Reverend, Friday, 9 March 2012 08:58 (fourteen years ago)
Oh wait, apparently such a thing exists, too.
http://soundcloud.com/royaltmusic/rinse-presents-royal-t-12-1
― The Reverend, Friday, 9 March 2012 09:00 (fourteen years ago)
full 'cool down' is here
tho tbh it's such a key moment in this i don't think i'm that interested in listening to it as a standalone
― dbs, Friday, 9 March 2012 09:11 (fourteen years ago)
I love that Cool Down finaly came out, to many of these tracks where kinda lost since they only came out on itunes or whatever they deserve to be on wax somewhere. Royal T has an album on the way for Rinse too, can't wait for that.
― jimitheexploder, Friday, 9 March 2012 09:24 (fourteen years ago)
:o
― The Reverend, Friday, 9 March 2012 09:39 (fourteen years ago)
same (though i will anyway)
― lex pretend, Friday, 9 March 2012 09:40 (fourteen years ago)
^^^ yeah that entire sentiment
Main value of having this standalone is being able to drop it at parties, I think.
― Tim F, Friday, 9 March 2012 09:47 (fourteen years ago)
something immensely satisfying about hearing the stranger at that speed
― ogmor, Friday, 9 March 2012 10:47 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah the percussion is actually more slamming slightly slowed down. And that intro is tremendous.
― Tim F, Friday, 9 March 2012 10:51 (fourteen years ago)
"Inside The Ride" is really good too
― Number None, Friday, 9 March 2012 11:32 (fourteen years ago)
Todd's new EP is so fucking good
― The Reverend, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:41 (fourteen years ago)
I like how the ghostly background keyboard sounds on parts of "Skippy Swing" (just the beginning? I forget) sound like something that would be leaking from the flip side of a cheap Arabic music cassette.
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 04:26 (fourteen years ago)
Right before the rewinding tape sound on the song, actually.
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 05:40 (fourteen years ago)
backspin sound
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 21:36 (fourteen years ago)
http://butterzisthelabel.tumblr.com/post/40639688277
http://soundcloud.com/preditah/la-playa
wonder if "the sunset project" isnt a tropical 3 dealio in the works http://i.imgur.com/S6udB.gif
― r|t|c, Thursday, 7 March 2013 13:42 (thirteen years ago)
massively late on this but i dont think anyone posted it b4? could do without c4 hosting tbh (couldnt he have got bbk to do it?) but still fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzHCYHDjGho
Logan Sama Tropical Mix
Preditah - Off TrackC4 - Loosen Up (JME Tropical Mix)Terror Danjah - Fruit PunchDisclosure - Stimulation (Preditah Remix)Flava D - Comfort MeDJ Q - Tropical OhC4 - BeachRoyal T - Cool DownPreditah - Old SchoolTC4 - BetaFlava D - Take Me UpPreditah - Bass Down LowJME - Cocopina DJ Q - Skippy SwingSolo 45 ft JME - HigherFlava D & Royal T - On My Mind (Version One)Maxsta ft C4 - Wrong
― Benny B, Sunday, 13 September 2015 09:51 (ten years ago)
nice!
― the late great, Sunday, 13 September 2015 23:27 (ten years ago)
Preditah - Bass Down Low
good track
― the late great, Monday, 14 September 2015 00:02 (ten years ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPVc1q6W8AAmA8d.jpg
So who's flying me to Southhampton?
― The Reverend, Sunday, 20 September 2015 10:16 (ten years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nldlfuT6zz4
homage so flawless it took me a month to realise it was even him, or even a new track
― r|t|c, Sunday, 3 July 2016 10:48 (nine years ago)
awesome towards the end of 'skippy swing' where 'cool down' is slowly coming in and the vocal sample sounds like "don't! - don't!" with the ominous synth rising... instant sense of danger, but slowly getting drawn in and seduced by it until - "cmon!" that 4/4 suddenly bursts out and totally sweeps you away― r|t|c, Thursday, 1 September 2011 01:35 (ten years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― r|t|c, Thursday, 1 September 2011 01:35 (ten years ago) bookmarkflaglink
The greatest moment ever.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 02:36 (three years ago)
FYI this is still the best album of all time
― Tim F, Friday, 5 June 2026 06:07 (four days ago)
This revive made my walk to work 1000% better this morning
― 99 gram lychee (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 June 2026 08:02 (four days ago)