instant party from a can: party rock anthem v. i gotta feeling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3PRmu0tr6k

http://i.imgur.com/aYBFH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/aYBFH.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/aYBFH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Dh0MP.jpg

'party rock anthem' is really charmless and half assed, 'i gotta feeling' is pretty well pieced together and it's biggest flaw, it's 'naffness' is arguably it's biggest strength, definitely one of those handful of black eyed peas that i wish were just a little bit better (usually i wish they were less ott busy - basement jaxx barely had what it takes to pull that off (and that's arguable), bep sure as fuck don't) but find myself enjoying if not actively seeking out anyway. somehow the passable songs make me despise bep even more than the outright abominations.

party rock anthem!

ie 'party rock anthem' just seems a really dull sign of where we are now, 'i gotta feeling' is how we got there.

balls otm

'I got a feeling' is so forced though! and there's some choice reverb on a bleep.

i mentally pair "Party Rock Anthem" more with "Give Me Everything," the song it replaced at #1 and resembled in many ways, except "Give" has better singing, rapping, and production and everything else than "Anthem"

i really like party rock anthem

I pair the two of these together because they've reduced partying to the idea of partying

i think the most actual pleasure i have gotten out of bep (outside of fergie's 'no brainer' in planet terror) is one night my sister and i had a nasty/stupid argument and we're riding out to some relatives in the country to do xmas, sitting in the dark in her car in silence, seething, and listening to npr and this guy is interviewing will i am, and at one point (tbf the host had kinda spurred him down this train of thought) will i am is talking about the diversity of styles he works in and says 'if you were to hear my humps and let's get it started and boom boom pow and don't phunk w/ my heart and i gotta feeling back to back you would have NO IDEA that any of those were by the same group' and my sister and i both burst out laughing at the stupidity of this statement, any enmity between us dissolved. will i am's hack formulas and deluded ego save xmas.

will i am has made pure shit so consistently that makes party rock anthem easier to everlook too

I pair the two of these together because they've reduced partying to the idea of partying

― dayo, Saturday, September 10, 2011 8:50 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

in a substantially different way than the whole long history of party songs?

these two have captured the imagination of the nation like no other

mazel tov!

PRA has better drum sounds
IGF makes me wanna suicide myself

these two aren't worth a drop of sweat off kool and the gang's balls.

I submit to you: the playlist of DJ JEFF HUNTER

http://www.djjeffhunter.com/mbtop200.htm

suck it will i am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M&ob=av3e
saturday night yall

man, how do I shot writing about music for baout.com

http://top40.about.com/od/specialoccasions/tp/partysongs.htm

hahaha

http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/top-100-party-songs.09.htm

prediction: at some point will i am unleashes a brostep 'electric slide'

i feel like there's such a self-loathing just under the surface with LMFAO -- like they're fucking scions of Motown and they're making the dumbest garbage with the laziest hooks and defiantly mornic rapping and most cynically dancefloor-ready beats possible, probably at first just to get laid and not just be bored rich kids but be famous bored rich kids, and now it worked a little too well and we all have to deal with their horrible bullshit

i mean the last time a Gordy forced their way onto the pop charts at least we got a memorable MJ hook out of the deal

I am kind of shocked at this unanimous consensus between about.com and DJ JEFF HUNTER that IGF is the greatest party song ever made

but who has been to more parties than DJ JEFF HUNTER, I ask you? who is a greater authority on what gets a party shaking?

http://www.mikesmobiledj.com/top_300_requested_party_songs.htm

perhaps MIKE'S MOBILE DJ would like to disagree...but wait! they have IGF at the top too!

damn i have party rock anthem on right now

i hope this comes on the radio when i go to taco bell

finally a dissenting opinion... from DJ WHITE HAWK

http://www.djwhitehawk.com/all-time-top-party-songs-best-party-songs.html

wow that site is beautiful

colby o'donis says list is otm.

Scooch?

Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday and Thursday

it's kinda amazing how universal these lists are. i think if you were playing, say, a wedding, in liverpool tonight then the biggest tunes would be 'sex on fire', 'use somebody', 'human' (the killers rather than the human league, unfortunately), 'party rock anthem' and 'i gotta feeling'. ''a town called malice' too. something by the stereophonics would prob be in there also. it amazes me how banal the general public's taste is, you'd think michael jackson or stevie wonder or something would get people up but they're nothing compared to 'build me up buttercup' or 'dignity' by deacon blue. totally derailed thread but all these songs remind me of each other. of these i prefer 'party rock anthem', mate of mine who djs in one of lpool's top bars says it reminds him of bizznizz 'don't miss the party line'. don't hear that myself.

pretty sure "don't stop til you get enough" still gets the party going

some dude, when was the last party you went to

parties in general, parties where people dance, or weddings where people dance (which is what i was talking about in response to 'or something')?

all of the above

if it was michael jackson it would most likely be 'thriller' or 'billie jean'. people don't seem to like being surprised.

dayo do you really want detailed answers to those 3 questions or...yeah nevermind

pra is a jam imo

if it was michael jackson it would most likely be 'thriller' or 'billie jean'. people don't seem to like being surprised.

― second only to popcorn (or something), Sunday, September 11, 2011 3:44 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

yeah people can't get with deep cuts like 'don't stop till you get enough', what is some dude even talking about

it amazes me how banal the general public's taste is

just for once I'm not gonna drop Marlon Brando scrawling "exterminate the brutes", i'm just gonna suggest that a lot of personal assumptions are crammed into this phrase and that i don't feel like you're trying to understand what a general public is, or how individuals within that category might relate to music or partying, or what the point of taste is, or why some music is more popular than other music, or how attitudes to mass culture can shade into a weak solipsism that proposes that most "other people" are stupider than we are, somehow

DJ JEFF HUNTER is clearly a wedding dj, and that list is the canon you might as well get worked up about people liking to watch stupid sitcoms or buy oversized suv's or something as try to deny that that list is the (ugly) truth

anyway i'll take PRA at this point cause i haven't had to play it 8000 times yet - bep's been the go to party-in-a-can song for how many years running already? also the beat's a hair better and those harmonies are kinda nice. i'm sure i'll get sick of it soon enough though

"instant party from a can" is a really good descriptor for these.

i hate "i gotta feeling" more but only cuz it's way more ubiquitous - don't think i've ever heard "party rock anthem" in the wild and in fact had to look it up to work out what it was. it's probably the worse song but i blame "i gotta feeling" for so much.

the general public can have really good taste fyi. pop is in a really bad place right now and i haven't quite worked out why, but i'd sooner blame a panicking and conservative music industry.

no the people are choosing the songs that do well. Sometimes the people are bit weird but it's not really a record company conspiracy.

yeah i hate to say it but with itunes having so much sway over the singles charts the will of the people is probably dictating what songs get big more than ever now

i think good taste is a discourse that's intended to separate the tasteful from the popular.

feel like there must be a long, irritable ILX thread about "why popular music is popular" but maybe not. it wd maybe be an interesting kick-about for a less chill day than a Sunday.

don't know what party anthem is but i gotta feeling really makes me wanna drop the r-bomb

" don't think i've ever heard "party rock anthem" in the wild"

heard it like 4 times in 3 different clubs when i went out this friday, i'd heard it out before here and there but suddenly this weekend it was everywhere, and making everyone go "WOOOOOHHHHHHH!!!!!!!" every time it came on. i kinda doubt it'll wind up having the staying power/ubiquetousness of IGAF though - that "guitar" bit, and buildup, and the mozoltov line, and day-of-the-week bridge, and the autotuned "woo-hoo" at the end of the tagline, are like one unstoppable hook after another. PRA's pleasantly catchy chorus just can't compete for more than a a few weeks

ps. is it me, or does jeff tweedy seem a little sour grapes in that video? i mean, why not do an ironic reading of "that's the way (i like it)" while you're at it - great, it's a brainless pop song, how clever of you to have noticed.

dayo do you really want detailed answers to those 3 questions or...yeah nevermind

― some dude, Saturday, September 10, 2011 11:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

well of course I do! I want to know how attuned you are to my world of young ppl. also need fresh material for future zings

tbc I am not maligning the public for propelling and staying these two songs at the top of the charts for week after week - I just think it's cool how in both of these songs, the artists get out of the way of the song as much as possible - what, if any, stance does will.i.am have in IGAF? I can't remember anything about PRA except those hammering cloud synths. these are like party song templates, so empty, color by numbers. to be played anywhere where there are people who could possibly put their hands up if compelled.

"Party Rock" is so much better. It's, like, totally thoughtless. "IGAF" clearly has had some thought put into it, which makes it all the more shameless. It's one thing to devise a dumb party song. It's another thing to devise a dumb party song designed for bar mitzvahs.

Tweedy in that clip is playing his part in a bigger joke. It was the book release party for the Punk Planet guy, who ran a fake, funny, gloriously profane Rahm Emanuel twitter account while he was running for mayor (the PP guy recently bundled them together into a small collection). The joke was that Tweedy should perform Black Eyed Peas at a fund raiser because "people love that shit," so Tweedy was playing the part of a guy compelled by the all-powerful Mayor Rahm to perform for the people. His spoken-word "My Humps" was funnier, because some dude in the audience corrects him when he strays from the song's narrative!

"Do it, and do it, and dpi it do it do it ... and do it, and do it ...." That's some Rebecca Black level shit, and she's just some girl off the playground.

IGAF is Guetta produced too which explains a lot

<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/28700284?title=0&byline=0&portrait=0"; width="400" height="225" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen allowFullScreen></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/28700284";>Jeff Tweedy recites "My Humps"</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/jasmined";>Jasmine Davila</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com";>Vimeo</a>.</p>

Shit, how to I paste from Vimeo?

http://vimeo.com/28700284

Eh, close enough.

"you're trying too hard but I guess america doesn't mind and you're tolerable on the forced umpteenth listen" vs. "you really should try harder but i guess america doesn't mind and you're tolerable on the forced umpteenth listen"

voting trying too hard

Also, am I wrong, or did the LMFAO song take its time getting to the top, like, over the course of a year? It worked to get there "I Got a Feeling" was just another part of the inevitable BEP new album product roll-out.

by that logic i should like "my big fat greek wedding" more than "the dark knight"

It's not logical, no, given that they are very different mediums with extremely different distribution methods.

Also, those movies are not near-equally terrible.

"I Gotta Feeling."

also It's one thing to devise a dumb party song. It's another thing to devise a dumb party song designed for bar mitzvahs. is a damn sketchy thing to say if you think about it

Hmm, let me think about it. Nope, not sketchy. The tastes of 12/13 year old boys are some LCD shit.

I mean, has the phrase "mazel tov" ever appeared in a song before?

yeah that hebrew phrase is one disgusting pander to the teen male market

The tastes of 12/13 year old boys are some LCD shit.

have you ever been in a bar?

lcd shitsystem

I like how you guys selectively lose your sense of humor. As a proud bar mitzvah myself (class of '87), and as the attendee of countless bar mitzvahs, I will say they provide a unique insight into a particular subset/mindset, and religion has nothing to do with it.

Alfred, do FL bars play stuff like LMFAO or BEP next to Weezer?

Also, by the way - and keep this between us - I didn't mean that the band literally wrote the song for bar mitzvahs. It's just shockingly well-suited for them, on numerous fronts.

hey josh pointing out an unintentionally loaded statement on ILX doesn't require the loss of humor, trust me

Alfred, do FL bars play stuff like LMFAO or BEP next to Weezer?

and Sublime, Santana, GNR, Gaga...it's amazing how humorless these people's tastes are.

also i'll take a pander full of bizarre specifics than a pander that removes them all. Kinda more impressive for a song with "mazel tov" in it to be a hit at every damn social function than for a near-instrumental called "party rock anthem" to score at clubs

that said if hamsters have to dance to something before a movie starts it might as well be "party rock anthem"

As much as I hate it, I Gotta Feeling is a modern drinking song. I imagine it has been blasted in bars during those shot glass competitions.

lol doublechecked and will admit that "party rock anthem" isn't a near instrumental. then again, "who let the dogs out" once had verses too

"who let the dogs out" is the dog in the room

wait till Rihanna goes head to head against Ke$ha in the songs-about-shots contest.

klfao

i really would like "party rock anthem" more if they shouted about Mumu at some point

lol doublechecked and will admit that "party rock anthem" isn't a near instrumental. then again, "who let the dogs out" once had verses too

― da croupier, Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:50 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

haha I thought PRA was an instrumental too until I was googling it and saw a "party rock anthem lyrics" page

wait till Rihanna goes head to head against Ke$ha in the songs-about-shots contest.

can we just bypass both and go for I GOT THAT DRINK IN MY CUUUUPPPP

Per an earlier rhetorical question, and putting on my conspiracy yarmulke, honestly I did think it, all those months ago, was pandering the first time I heard the "mazel tov." My honest initial thought was that, hey, this is the most prominent industry whore act I can think of, working in an industry disproportionately represented by Jews - how many celebrity bar/bat mitzvahs and weddings has will.i.am been to or performed at in recent years? It's silly, I know, but that's what I thought. In fact, the first few times I heard to song I did a double take. Like, did they really say "mazel tov?" It's an innocuous phrase, but I rarely hear it outside of Jewish functions.

Silly, I know.

Croup, I totally think of "Party Rock" as a KLF song!

Also, I haven't sought out the "PRA" lyrics, but do they take a shot at "Lennon and Zeppelin" as the popular standard-bearers?

PRA sounds like library music for "21st c. good time party song", and for that I sort of appreciate it. It's the great grandchild of IGF in pop music years, and also incorporates an interesting sort of "yeah" that sounds very 2011. Also that dental drill sound.

It seems like since IGF there has been a competition to cram as many party music sounds into one song as possible, and LMFAO wins because they have distilled the party rock anthem into its core parts: "yeah" "woo" "put your hands up" dental drill hatin' is bad = have a good time.

Also, am I wrong, or did the LMFAO song take its time getting to the top, like, over the course of a year? It worked to get there "I Got a Feeling" was just another part of the inevitable BEP new album product roll-out.

― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:16 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

yeah almost 6 months from original release to hitting #1. i think that's more established artist vs. up-and-comers than one being more of a 'true' grassroots popularity or anything, though.

it bears mentioning that LMFAO are signed to will.i.am's label so that fucker is making a mint off both of these songs.

will i am did party anthem

I think it's important to remember that BEP is also responsible for the equally banal party anthem "Let's Get Retarded"/"Let's Get It Started," which makes "I Gotta Feeling" that much worse. As if the group thought, hmm, you know? Let's do another one!

both these songs are great

i gotta feeling is better but party rock anthem is better than boom boom pow, i think?

not gonna read this thread but "party rock anthem" is a straight classic, "i gotta feeling" is bleating nonsense & like not even in the top 8 of BEP singles

also i have no idea what the premise of this thread is -- which song do more ppl hate? fuck if i know

the time (dirty bit) is actually bad

j0rdan vote for the song that you hate the most

oh, obv BEP

feel like pra is gonna end up as the same kind of punchline as 'satisfaction'

both of these songs are terrible but party rockers is a flash in the pan compared to i got a feeling

(which is why i got a feeling is wholly worse)

"party rock anthem" is a straight classic

http://i30.tinypic.com/30cbwo8.jpg

it's like oj passes right thru his head

PRA sounds like library music for "21st c. good time party song", and for that I sort of appreciate it. It's the great grandchild of IGF in pop music years, and also incorporates an interesting sort of "yeah" that sounds very 2011. Also that dental drill sound.

I am feeling this reasoning ^

these two songs both seem like definitions of rock-bottom lowest common denominator feelgood shit for me, but I'd rather dance to "Party Rock Anthem" - it hits hard, "I Gotta Feeling" doesn't

I am confused about how to vote in this poll though

vote for the one you hate more

if they remake 1984, "i gotta feeling" will be played daily through the telescreen.

man i know dave's an entertainer first and foremost and 1984 was the most pop roth era album but i can't imagine if they remade 1984 it would sound like 'i gotta feeling'.

:)

I Gotta Feeling seems more Brave New World than 1984 to me.

EVERY "vote for the worst" poll is confusing to like half the voters, even if you specify that in the subject line and especially if you don't

Somehow I doubt any major injustice can result.

PRA is the most unwelcome earworm I have had in a while. go away.

i can't even express how grim i find will.i.am and his cynical coca-cola ad global music

you just did actually

to all the people whose very existence feels threatened by the crass commercialism of this music, I would like to take you to a gay club some time.

haha it's specifically the black eyed peas i find really crass and commercial, lest anyone think i'm on some anti-pop thing.

if their tracks were empty they'd be less sinister. i don't know why that sort of catchphrase driven pop is more awful when will.i.am does it but it really is.

it's more than crass though, i hate the sort of mass marketed positivity that bep seem to represent so fully.

stop
(hatin is bad)

that ^^ is the part that is stuck in my head today
most of the time it's the dentist drill or the yeah

yeah i mean there's a way that will.i.am's world domination feels somehow at the same time cynical and deluded that is just totally charmless, even compared to i dunno puff daddy or dr. luke or something

i hate the song even more for the "hatin' is bad" line -- don't they say "no hate-o" at some point too?

oh right it's devilish flow no halo ugh

like normally ads rip off pop music, but with will.i.am it actually feels like his sound and feel was heavily influenced by ads.

the main thing that bums me out about LMFAO is that I expected better from the progeny of Berry Gordy, Jr.

pure distilled mind control jock jams get the last laugh here i'm afraid

i like both these songs a decent bit

p different beasts tho -- BEP is 100% sincere in "i gotta feeling," LMFAO's new singles have all been ironic-bordering-on-intentional-novelty.

EVERY "vote for the worst" poll is confusing to like half the voters, even if you specify that in the subject line and especially if you don't

lol yeah when i said "i vote for trying too hard" i actually meant I prefer it, ah well

there should be gathering-specific remixes of "i gotta feeling" - "my wife's gonna be a good wife" for a marraige, "his knife's gonna be a sharp knife" for a bris, "first night's gonna be a good night" for new years, etc

i can't even tell which song is supposedly trying too hard, i don't hear it

They're both much better than anything else on the albums they came from - and better than 90% of the songs that are directly competing for a portion of the same market. You can call them cynical, cheap, formulaic or anything else, they're still incredibly effective at delivering what they promise on the tin.

alex in nyc, good to see you again

i can't even tell which song is supposedly trying too hard, i don't hear it

the one with a ton of different hooks vs the one where people forget there's more to it than the hamster dance part

admittedly, deeper listens for drill sounds and whatnot may prove LMFAO's track has more richer listens than say the baha men

ok yeah i definitely like "I Gotta Feeling" way more, but it always felt somewhat effortless/logical about its combination of hooks. but yeah it lacks the total disregard for anything resembling effort or ambition epitomized by "NO LED IN OUR ZEPPELIN!"

do they actually say "no led in our zeppelin" on the lfmao track? cuz that's actually a step above the anonymity of what i do recall

the actual entire song does have verses, yes

do you remember the verse to "who let the dogs out?" too? cuz that would REALLY be impressive

i do, a little, although less clearly than "pra" since i haven't heard "dogs" on the radio every day all summer

isn't there a little narrative about a dog catcher?

dunno any time i've seen "dogs" attempted in karaoke the verse just becomes this bermuda triangle

Someone add a link to that video of a wedding party dancing down the aisle to "i gotta feeling"

btw when i looked up the lyrics for "dogs" just now the site had a giant ad for the new david guetta album, which brings us full circle

according to wikipedia, the guy who co-produced party rock anthem went to middle school with one of the lmfao guys AND will.i.am

must be the partyingest school ever

How anyone could fail to remember "get back you flea-infested mongrel!", i don't know. I guess Who Let The Dogs Out has the disavantage of being sung with an accent.

yeah the fact that one of the LMFAO guys is the exact same age as will.i.am kind of underlines how condescending their shit is, like you can't START a career of making this kind of shit in your mid-'30s with a straight face

i like PRA better. dental drills >>>> bar mitzvah pop. the third option is settling down and marrying a nice jewish dentist with a big drill.

to will.i.am's credit, he paid his dues by cranking out shitty unpopular BEP material for years before they had radio hits

according to imdb, redfoo co-wrote a song for The Meteor Man

not enough "kids incorporated" shout-outs on this thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb5DkLd22Ic

never forget

like you can't START a career of making this kind of shit in your mid-'30s with a straight face

― some dude, Sunday, September 11, 2011 6:00 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Stefan+Kendal+Gordy+LMFAO+Chris+Hemsworth+TJSSMuymanBl.jpg

party rock anthem >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

party song not taking itself so seriously >>>>>>>.

whatever IGF's crimes are i don't think taking itself too seriously is among them

shit is fun & goofy & although awkwardly constructed & tossed off -- thats basically its charm, imo

'i gotta feeling' is emotionally manipulative bs

whatever IGF's crimes are i don't think taking itself too seriously is among them

― some dude, Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:12 PM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark

it totally is tho -- its super-earnest

so how is "i gotta feeling tonight's gonna be a good night" emotionally manipulative as opposed to "everybody's gonna have a good time"

Do they really say "no led in our zeppelin?" I like that better than "no lennon or zeppelin." Also, the LMFAO video is cute, and the drum part doesn't remind me of OMC.

I saw Black Eyed Peas open for N.E.R.D. and they (BEP) were awesome. I keep that in mind every time my daughter or one of her friends caterwauls to the Kidz Bop version of "I Gotta Feeling."

so how is "i gotta feeling tonight's gonna be a good night" emotionally manipulative as opposed to "everybody's gonna have a good time"

― da croupier, Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:14 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

bcuz they sound like they're goofing off the whole time so its earnest moments are more ~balanced~ overall

hmm i see

the line before it is "on a rise to the top" so yeah, it's "no led in our zeppelin" although haha wtf "no lennon or zeppelin"

i saw BEP on a package tour w/ alt-rock bands in the late '90s, only thing i remember about it is that they breakdanced a lot and their bassplayer looked like andy dick

hmm i see

― da croupier, Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:16 PM (23 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i assume u are being facetious? i think its obvi that they whole vibe of the LMFAO track is a bit more finding transcendence thru self-aware goofiness while the BEP one asks that you buy its heart-on-sleeve earnestness wholesale

transcendence? really?

yeah no

but if you think one is "emotionally manipulative" and one is "transcendence thru self-aware goofiness" that's ok

I think my college booked BEP as a headliner during their "we are honestly trying to find bands that might go somewhere but will not sap our budget" time for a campus festival. I watched Blackalicious as the opener but had to take off before BEP, no idea what it would have been like.

It was later pretty funny because all the "who are these no-names that get booked, this is a waste of money, blah blah" people were the ones I'd view as most likely to love radio-pop successes BEP.

yeah no

― da croupier, Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:22 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

but if you think one is "emotionally manipulative" and one is "transcendence thru self-aware goofiness" that's ok

― da croupier, Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:23 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

great contribution to a discussion

well we've discussed that your take is subjective plenty, i figure

xpost I inexplicably heard it as "we're going to rise to the top, no lennon or zeppelin" as LMFAO supplanting Lennon and Zeppelin as "the top."

deej if you're making me wait for the last timbaland poll ballot just so you can defend fucking party rock anthem i swear to god

i mean 'transcendence' in the 'tool-of-dance-producers' sense -- like, that big part of the hook where they go 'party rockers in the houuuse toniiiight' is one of those standard dance track 'transcendent moment' tricks -- what i'm saying is that the tossed-off-ness of it, the fact that thats not the only mood the song is pushing, the goofy acid part & the funny vocal interjections, make it a lot less one note. While 'I Gotta Feeling' is just like hammering the TONIGHTS GONNA BE A GOOD GOOD NIIIGHT transcendence trick and thats ... it

deej if you're making me wait for the last timbaland poll ballot just so you can defend fucking party rock anthem i swear to god

― some dude, Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:28 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

im at work, working multiple double shifts; i can contribute to the discussion but cant really listen to music atm

(multiple double shifts over the past few days i mean)

guys, stop migrating

I remember when BEP were name checked in the same breath as the roots

ok deej if you still have to get off work, go home, listen to music and then send a ballot then just forget about it i guess

Every time I see this thread's title, I think of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_T1BOIx7tU

well we've discussed that your take is subjective plenty, i figure

― da croupier, Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:26 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i dont understand how my argument is different from any argument someone might post in this thread? of course all of our arguments are subjective?

love both

ok deej if you still have to get off work, go home, listen to music and then send a ballot then just forget about it i guess

― some dude, Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:31 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

if u dont want my contribution then ok fine? lol @ you deciding not to include me bcuz i like party rock anthem

@ croupier, like, am i not explaining where i'm coming from? i feel like u can disagree & argue on the terms i'm making here -- im not claiming that my description makes me inherently 'right' or something

i want your contribution, i think you could make a difference in the results for the better! i just think it's dumb that you can engage in another endless argument like this but you can't type some song titles into an e-mail.

fwiw i have a rough list i can send i was just hoping to listen to a few things i havent heard in awhile before turning it in

yeah that'd be fine

deej i just think you're indulging in some overreaching semantics and calling it out. I understand the idea of preferring LMFAO's relative glibness, don't worry.

i still can't believe j0rdan called it a classic

idg whats overreaching at all abt it! glib silly parts help balance emotionally obvious parts. when its all blatant emotional obvious i find it cloying -- i dont think this is semantic

"I Gotta Feeling" is what is -- i enjoy it for pretty much the same reasons other people list for hating it

http://youtu.be/MahY3MSRug0

Context: The Rose of Tralee is a shitty Irish pageant, each of the Roses is required to have a talent, the Dublin Rose's talent was "hip hop dancing", PRA was her soundtrack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MahY3MSRug0

I assume we all agree that both songs are better than "AND PARTY AND PARTY AND PARTY AND PARTY AND..."

& we danced to lmfao with the rose of tralee
her long hair black as a raven

party rock anthem will not leave my head btw -- im sure i'll be tired of it shortly

doot doot doot doot deet dee doot

stop

hatin is bad

I assume we all agree that both songs are better than "AND PARTY AND PARTY AND PARTY AND PARTY AND..."

― Tim F, Sunday, September 11, 2011 6:55 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

nah i'm with whiney, that song's not bad

PRA is more the "Like a G6" (or "Boom Boom Pow", I guess) of 2011 than the IGAF imo. The huge electro hit that actually has a really kinetic groove and is fun to dance to.

Feel like this is the proper time to invoke:

if it aint srs lyrics then there shld be srs dancing. this is how i judge music

― usic, Friday, June 13, 2008 10:57 AM Bookmark

is it really srs dancing or just wear a garish outfit and do half-assed shuffling steps

is there a difference for most people

the groove is p serious dancing if we're talking abt the actual song

every day i'm shufflin

Both of these songs fill me with a living hatred for the universe.

came around on the LMFAO song & that new Dev joint -- basically really enjoy these as basically the early 90s pop house of the early 10s -- dont think ultimately there will be much diff & most of my 'issues' w/ them feel fairly temporal & contextual

another point against PRA is that the intro makes me think watagatapitusberry is coming on

so so so so disappointed

the dental drill party sounds like every shitty dj mix I have heard in nightclubs compressed into a 30 second segment

My only "issue" with the Dev joint is that it makes me want to hear "Calabria 2007" more, or at any rate wish that it was a bit more like "Calabria 2007" and a bit less like "Destination Calabria".

IGAF is rhythmically stiff and doesn't build/release properly. PRA is way more polyrhythmic and is constructed like a proper dance track or at least a condensed version thereof. I don't feel like this is a hard concept.

And if you're going to talk about the video, as someone who has for a large chunk of my adult life been a professional choreographer (YES I'M PULLING RANK), I think the choreography and dancing in the PRA vid are pretty good (tho lol Melbourne Shuffle, yes).

I've been saying that Dev joint is a dope "Calabria 2007" ripoff.

also can anyone help me remember the name of another hipster miami electro duo from like 2006 or 2007, their record covers were always of their faces pressed next to big booties or boobs, probably featured prominently in fader blog posts. or was that LMFAO?!

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l121/cakeandice-cream/Milian2.jpg

xpost That was LMFAO too.

You're thinking of "I'm In Miami B***h" I assume.

Redfoo is a former day trader and has been featured on CNBC's Mad Money with Jim Cramer. [17]

xp - no, I don't think so. I remember they were BIG booties, maybe some cellulite showing, it was kind of explicit. or maybe I just can't find the right LMFAO album cover.

lol watching PRA vid now

it's more fun to imagine they're skanking

http://tinyurl.com/3kgv2r8 (mute the PRA vid on the left)

every day i'm shufflin

― some lady (La Lechera), Sunday, September 11, 2011 1:48 PM (32 minutes ago)

how did this thread go so long w/o mentioning this part???

not to be all capn save-a-rick-ross but i get so mad @ how blatant a rip-off of one of my favorite songs this is

i mean yeah hip-hop has a long tradition of that shit but this is just so criminal

i like the the way the Dev makes a persona driven song out of the calabria vibe personally.

lmfao weren't really a thing until '08 and it never seemed like they were big w/ the fader crowd. dayo's post makes me think of

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ac/Bangers_%26_Cash.jpg

'09 meant to say

lol this is like ancient history now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M11SvDtPBhA

thanks al, that's exactly who I was thinking of

spank rock

how did this thread go so long w/o mentioning this part???

not to be all capn save-a-rick-ross but i get so mad @ how blatant a rip-off of one of my favorite songs this is

―  (gr8080), Sunday, September 11, 2011 7:22 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

idk this struck me as just an intentional reference, like, they know their audience knows the track its referencing!

yeah i feel you it still makes me mad

lol @ me having miley cyrus "party in the usa" on while my tv has a marine playing taps at the meadowlands in the background

Actually, the younger (I think?) LMFAO guy can't really dance unless he's following choreography.

they def are the goofiest looking pop stars in a minute

i like the the way the Dev makes a persona driven song out of the calabria vibe personally.

― D-40, Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:23 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Nahhh, Natasja brought way more personality to the table than Dev does.

btw benny blanco's produced a lot of the worst big pop chart hits of the last couple years, surprised he hasn't worked with lmfao yet

I'm guess that's not necc. 100% diametric opposed to what you were trying to establish, but ¯\(°_o)/¯ xp

very good point, al

the younger dude is the guy who's just jumping all over the place when they're not following choreography right?

(tho lol Melbourne Shuffle, yes).

is this internationally recognised now?

altho he worked with 3OH3 so really what's the difference

LMFAO can't spell "transcendence.'

eh i mean personality in the thinnest sense of like, personality implied by a simple vocal style xxxxps to rev

http://cdn.theurbandaily.com/files/2008/11/2-live-crew.jpg

I guess I should fill this blind spot, huh *opens spotify*

LMFAO can't spell "transcendence.'

― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, September 11, 2011 7:35 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i know this is supposed to be a withering put-down but no one said their music was transcendent

the younger dude is the guy who's just jumping all over the place when they're not following choreography right?

― dayo, Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:35 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This is my assumption.

iirc the older guy has the puffy hair and the younger guy has the hair down to his shoulders

btw deej seriously stop posting itt and send me your timbaland ballot

i assume u are being facetious? i think its obvi that they whole vibe of the LMFAO track is a bit more finding transcendence thru self-aware goofiness while the BEP one asks that you buy its heart-on-sleeve earnestness wholesale

I don't want self-aware goofiness from party anthems but that's me.

I dunno, deej, one of the things I've always loved about "Calabria" (besides being a full-on banger and all that) is how much humor and other little quirks there are in the vocal.

deej if you're making me wait for the last timbaland poll ballot just so you can defend fucking party rock anthem i swear to god

― some dude, Sunday, 11 September 2011

this induced a sincere irl lol

haha

"Party in the USA" is a worse song than any other mentioned itt by some measure.

party rock anthem i weirdly don't mind but maybe because i'm not ever really in a context where i'd be forced to hear it incessantly

will.i.am is the goddamned devil and i don't even feel the need to make any rational arguments about why i find him so odious at this point

xpost rev don't even

alfred like i said i was talking abt that ~moment of dancefloor transcendence~ that is a part of both the BEP and LMFAO songs. the buildup part of the chorus. you can argue its effective or not but cant deny that 'moment of transcendence' is there

xp That shit is unbearable not even in a "sit on my hands and don't complain" way, son.

this is probably the perfect example of how detached i am from pop culture at the moment but i really had no idea that party rock anthem was a.) even called party rock anthem or b.) by lmfao until this thread.

i mean i knew lmfao was a chart-topping thing but i was convinced i'd never heard anything by them.

i am also pretty sure i heard the "osama bin laden is dead" party rock anthem take-off before party rock anthem itself.

now if you'll excuse me, i have to go bleach my dentures.

xp to deej: Yeah, both songs rely on the "soar", but only PRA pulls it off.

the melodic part of PRA is so painful and unpleasant

like it's just so whiny and uninspired

fuck this thread, we're rocking 2 unlimited on the jock jams thread

I had no idea one was supposed to lmfao while listening to "Party Rock Anthem" or feel while "I Gotta Feeling" are playing!

fuck this thread, we're rocking 2 unlimited on the jock jams thread

― debenture banhart (get bent), Sunday, September 11, 2011 7:49 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is the 2011 2 unlimited

lmfao: 2 limited

wtf is party rock anthem

One of the biggest songs in the country atm

is it dupstep??

Interestingly, or not, I think "I've Gotta Feeling" is more "anthemic" than "Party Rock Anthem." The BEP song sounds more ... aspirational. Like, let's go out and have a good time! The LMFAO is more immediate, celebrating the moment, like the beat is so irresistible you just can't escape it. Whereas the BEP is simply setting the stage for your night out in self-consciously "rousing" fashion.

The LMFAO, I want to say I've heard on the radio so many times already in progress that I for the longest time I figured the middle was the beginning. I'm still not sure I've heard it start to finish. The BEP, on the other hand, I know when to change the station from note one, pretty much.

I feel the need to stress once again how "I've Gotta Feeling" makes the equally insipid and formerly ubiquitous "Let's Get It Started" seem downright innocuous. I shudder to imagine what's in store that will make me feel the same of "Feeling."

tbf lamp doesn't live in the same country as us...although he still lives in one where PRA went to #1

also tbf it's really easy in 2011 to live in america and not be remotely familiar w/ the #1 song in the country (esp if you're over 22).

i mean to put the '#1 song in the country' in perspective i'd be more shocked if a coworker or whoever was unfamiliar w/ the sitcom rules of engagement than if they were unfamiliar w/ 'party rock anthem'.

yeah srsly idk id never heard of 'LMFAO' or 'party rock anthem' or 'lauren bennett' or 'shufflin' (disambiguation)' before 10 minutes ago and i doubt i ever would if i wasnt bored and reading ilm

the fax machine house lol rick ross stuff is p ok but its not louche or garish enough to be v good idk i guess the forced fun summer camp councilor vibe of 'i gotta feeling' is better

I feel the need to stress once again how "I've Gotta Feeling" makes the equally insipid and formerly ubiquitous "Let's Get It Started" seem downright innocuous. I shudder to imagine what's in store that will make me feel the same of "Feeling."

― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, September 11, 2011 7:10 PM Bookmark

It's called "The Time (Dirty Bit)".

^forgot this had been mentioned when I called "Party in the USA" worse than any song mentioned itt

j/k that shit is even worse than "The Time (Dirty Bit)"

i have a smidgen of affection for party in the usa because it's fun to find other bands/artists that fit the "AND A JAY-Z SONG COMES ON" line while singing along

for a couple of months i was singing "AND A MERZBOW SONG COMES ON" so often i started to forget what the actual line was

I love that song. I am not ashamed. Well, maybe just a little.

it's easily the best thing associated with a cyrus since the second and third seasons of doc

"Boot Scootin' Boogie" or whatever it was was kind of a jam.

lol dude that's like the country equivalent of if someone said to you "i like that snoop dogg song, hard knock life"

stop

― D-40, Sunday, September 11, 2011 7:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hatin is bad

― D-40, Sunday, September 11, 2011 7:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

i've started saying this irl

xp haha, I know. I was just playin'.

Those two songs are inextricably linked in my mind tho. Probably cause they're the only two country songs I knew when I was a kid.

Our lesbian PE teacher made us do the electric slide to both.

Is that a euphemism or

:o

i still can't believe j0rdan called it a classic

― some dude, Sunday, September 11, 2011 6:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

are we talking about the same j0rdan because I can totally believe this tbrr

every day i'm shufflin

― some lady (La Lechera), Sunday, September 11, 2011 7:48 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

"party rock anthem" sounds really perfect in the dvd ad for tyler perry's madea's big happy family

haha i figured out today that it reminds me of that music they were always playing in six flags ads a couple or so years back. (was that 2 unlimited, too?)

No venga boys

yeah there you go.

WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THE REAL STRONGO

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/ghostdad.jpg

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

I wish all these post-Guetta pop songs that remind me of Geht's Noch and it's squeaky synth squelch could integrate the same jacking percussion and rhythms, instead of the plodding stomp that's so ubiquitous now.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

party rock anthem is better

yeah it's authentically stupid while I Gotta Feeling sounds like it was grown in a lab

i'd still dance to Party Rock Anthem, "I Gotta Feeling" sounds like a song used in bars to indicate shift change

You can laugh at party rock, but only groan at I've got a feeling.

The only really really bad part of PRA is “you’re naked now!” Which I have a lot to say about when you consider how many little kids’ parties this song soundtracked.

I’m like that freaked out dog on the Krusty The Clown show when I hear this shit

I still think it’s an effective party song but that line nags at me.

I Gotta Feeling is more sanitized.

"i gotta feeling" still better sorry

“i gotta feeling” = national sales conference kickoff music

i gotta feeling, and that feeling is 'gas'

The best thing about either of these songs is Clyde Carson rapping (on ILM-approved hyphy classic "Lightweight Jammin") the line b****es catchin feelings like will.i.am. Just a super gratifying arrangement of syllables, even if he grocery-bags the punchline a second later by singsonging "Tonight's gonna be a good night."

The second best thing is "Sorry For Party Rocking." Not the actual song, just the title/concept.

I chuckle everytime I think about the synth breakdown in party rock. Just feels like something Tim Heidelberg would come up with, with zoom in/zoom + spinning of the camera from 45 to 315 degrees on a 240p phone camera filming a woman tweaking on a green screen of a raging party backdrop.

We just want to see you........ shake that
WUMWUMWUMWUMWAMDAWAMDAWAMWAM

Like it really could be a DKR song

The thing about I Gotta Feeling is the touch of mournful nostalgia underneath. Like, you're pre-loaded for wistful reminisces about that girl whose number you wish you got, or that last Four Loko that you wish you drank. In seriousness though, the song often brings a tear to my eye. An optimistic song from a time long gone, after which we've experienced some not-very-good nights indeed.

Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday (Do it)
Friday, Saturday, Saturday to Sunday (Do it)

"I Gotta Feeling" is the song you play to kick off the bar mitzvah. "Party Rock" is what you play when the sugar and pizza has kicked in and the kids are going wiiiiiiiiild.

Put another way, when "I Gotta Feeling" comes on we joke how stupid it is, but when "Party Rock" comes on we don't need to say anything, because we know it. You could even say we feel it.

Both complete shit.

So it's a tie?

Both of these songs rule

Can't get into the party without a tie.

The second best thing is "Sorry For Party Rocking." Not the actual song, just the title/concept.

the actual song is almost impressively terrible

lol ppl acting like "party rock anthem" is not also corporate team building workshop music

which one of the two do you think I heard during teambuilding meetings

(it weren't LMFAO that's for sure)

everybody just have a good time

my main problem with “party rock anthem” is they sing the chorus like they’re trying to calm everybody down instead of light everyone up. I think I prefer that shitty Macklemore “the ceiling can’t hold us” thing.

lmao

"everyone, please calm down. contrary to the rumors spreading earlier, party rock is indeed still in the house tonight and has not been postponed as incorrectly stated earlier"

It’s to calm them before the beat drops, so they can bring it back up again for the “shake that” part. It basically ensures the shaking of that.
Afaict that is

I used to run a summer camp, and the camp song/dance during the morning meeting was I Gotta Feeling. I would play it through the PA via a cable to the audio jack on my phone (I did not participate in the dance or in fact get up on stage at all except for certificate presentations at the end of the course.) The kids seemed to like it fine, I didn't hate it, actually I had never heard it before as was mostly out of the country from 2002 to 2016 and it sounded i dunno, acceptable. Then one day I got in my car and my phone connected via bluetooth at an uncomfortably high volume and with the improved quality of the audio I could hear for the first time how tinny, hollow and cheap-sounding it was.