Simpin Ain't Easy: The Official Thread For Drake's Sophomore Album, TAKE CARE

Against my better judgement I'm actually kind of... anticipating... the new Drake album. I mean, look at the cover:

http://www.ddotomen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Drake-Take-Care.jpg

also, the tracklist look kind of intersting:

1. Shot For Me (produced by 40)
2. Headlines (produced by Boi-1da & 40)
3. The Ride featuring The Weeknd (produced by 40)
4. Marvin's Room (produced by 40)
5. Club Paradise (produced by 40)
6. Her Regrets (Interlude) featuring The Weeknd (produced by The-Dream & 40)
7. Her Regrets featuring The Weeknd (produced by The-Dream & 40)
8. All Kinds featuring Justin Timberlake (produced by Timbaland)
9. The Real Her featuring Lil' Wayne (produced by Streetrunner)
10. Good Ones(produced by Lex Luger)
11. Sing For Me (Interlude)(produced by Jamie XX)
12. Free Spirit featuring Rick Ross(produced by 40)
13. Lord Knows (produced by Just Blaze)
14. Doing It Wrong featuring Stevie Wonder (produced by 40 & Quincy Jones)
15. Never Enough featuring The Weeknd (produced by 40)
16. To My City (produced by 9th Wonder)
17. Take Care featuring Nas, J.Cole, Eightball & MJG (produced by Hit-Boy & Chase N. Cashe)
18. Yours Sincerely featuring Stevie Wonder (produced by 40 & Stevie Wonder)

plus I liked a coupe of tracks on his first album.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhlNG5qJy8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwyjxsOYnys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjqP-qEIcjA

http://www.stoneyroads.com/images/cms/1/mixtapes/119jamiexxess.jpg

Ball & G seem a little out of place on that tracklist

nah they totally fit, Drake sips lean and catches bodies now

"Headlines" is like the height of 'this idiot can make any old bullshit a hit at this point'

eh i think headlines is fine for what it is. at least he doesnt have any major clunkers on it

i def like the overall vibe of it more than "Over" which might be my least favorite hip hop hit of the past few years

Is Whiney posting the dead Angelfire img on purpose now for some sort of "hilarious" zing?

"headlines" doesn't have clunkers like a lot of his songs but it has a total absence of anything remotely good, which most of his songs at least have a little hint of

i want to orchestrate a fake leak of this album that's a 79-minute loop of "we threw a party yeah we through a party, bitches came over yeah we threw a party"

lol

lol otm

i guess i just vibed w/ the ch-ch-ch-ch part of the beat that sounded good in a radio mix i heard

as i think i've said in other threads, i'm mentally preparing to have this album in my top 10 of the year

smh

three weeknd cameos gets the gasface tho

yeah but two of the Weeknd songs are produced by The-Dream...... so i'm very conflicted.

I'd consider that more two and a half, really. But I think the Drake-guesting Weeknd track was the only one I went back to on the last mix, so maybe they won't be awful? But, tbh, at this point I can't see myself listening to this whole thing until I get bored and its on Spotify.

hope that jamie xx joint has some rapping & it isn't just an instrumental interlude

17. Take Care featuring Nas, J.Cole, Eightball & MJG (produced by Hit-Boy & Chase N. Cashe)

this sounds fucking retarded tho

agl

i have definitely done some succumbing to marvin's room

18. Yours Sincerely featuring Stevie Wonder (produced by 40 & Stevie Wonder)

i wish this was Sincerely Yours (produced by Air France)

when drake gives things titles like "yours sincerely" and "october's very own" he just seems even more twee than he already is

only one boi-1da beat is also a point in this album's favor

mostly 40 means almost a full hour of morose submarine music

sign me up

ugh son

kelsey grammar...down periscope

this fake tracklist is cracking me up

Take Care Tracklist

1. Frolicking (Intro)
2. Jimmy Back feat. Meek Millz & Rick Ross
3. I Wanna Save You….(From You) feat. Trey Songz
4. My Eyebrows Say Yes, My Heart Says No feat. Swizz Beatz & Bruno Mars
5. Bar Mitzvah Money feat. Asher Roth
6. Peacock Feathers feat. Kanye West, T.I. & Lady Gaga
7. If I Were A Man feat. Nicki Minaj & Solange
8. Aub’s Interlude
9. Mr Fancy Pants feat. T-Pain
10. Heart Throbbing feat. Lil Wayne
11. Fuckin U Til I Cry feat. Justin Bieber
12. Signed, Sealed….Heartbroken feat. Trey Songz
13. Gallop To Me feat. Chris Brown & Rihanna
14. Let Me Fluff feat. The Eurythmics & DJ Khaled
15. Young Angel’s Outro

lmao, can't get over this thread title

what is wrong with you guys

wah wah

http://twitter.com/#!/Drake/statuses/118863263726452736

"headlines" doesn't have clunkers like a lot of his songs but it has a total absence of anything remotely good, which most of his songs at least have a little hint of

― some dude, Saturday, September 24, 2011 7:08 PM Bookmark

otm, totally unmemorable in any way

i think this is just a well written verse (except for the napkin part obv)

[Verse 1:]
I might be too strung out on compliments
Overdosed on confidence
Started not to give a fuck and stopped fearing the consequence
Drinking every night because we drink to my accomplishments
Faded way too long I'm floating in and out of consciousness
And they sayin' I'm back, I'd agree with that
I just take my time with all this shit, I still believe in that
I had someone tell me I fell off, ohh I needed that
And they wanna see me pick back up, well where'd I leave it at
I know I exaggerated things, now I got it like that
Tuck my napkin in my shirt, cause I'm just mobbin' like that
You know good and well that you don't want a problem like that
You gone make someone around me catch a body like that
No don't do it, please don't do it, cause one of us goes in
And we all go through it
Drizzy got the money, so Drizzy gone pay it
Those my brothers, I ain't even gotta say it
That's just something they know

j0rdan you're slipping man, i'm worried about you

we should stage an intervention

http://www.inflexwetrust.com/2011/10/13/ifwt-exclusive-drake-make-me-proud/

weird song

maybe just boring? :(

liked nickis verse though :) (dunno about the lyrics)

no i actually like it a lot, it just feels a bit stitched together towards the end

i'm feeling the rhythm sure but i guess i'm looking for something catchy in drake (my mistake?) and this hook doesn't really stick (probably because it's monotonous but maybe that's actually just how drake rolls come to think of it).

rubbish

"i'm so i'm so i'm so" is not a fucking chorus

Whats the point? If I’m guardin
Double D up hoes, Dolly Parton

^ good

I wonder why the moon looks nice, girl
Maybe it’s just right for the night

^ bad

so bad and boring, briefly comes alive for nicki's verse but that's about all

super patronising too, like is he her dad or something??

I feel like this thread should be retitled "Throw on Your Best Cardigan and Celebrate Fall 2011 with Drake"

Celebrate Commiserate

take 2

Exact features still “to be declared”.

1. Over My Dead Body
2. Shot For Me
3. Headlines
4. Crew Love
5. Take Care
6. Marvin’s Room / Buried Alive Interlude
7. Under Ground Kings
8. We’ll Be Fine
9. Make Me Proud (Feat. Nicki Minaj)
10. Lord Knows
11. Cameras / Good Ones Go Interlude
12. Doing It Wrong
13. The Real Her
14. HYFR (Hell Ya Fu**in Right)
15. Look What You’ve Done
16. Practice
17. The Ride

i hope "Under Ground Kings" is just a typo by whichever idiot sent out this press release

I hope it is an epic poem about the difficulties of serving the Ground Kings of Niffelheim

I hope it is Drake's new line of coffee shops.

hyfr mngo

damn why isn't "Free Spirit" on the album :(

or "Frolicking (Intro)" :(

6. Peacock Feathers feat. Kanye West, T.I. & Lady Gaga
7. If I Were A Man feat. Nicki Minaj & Solange
9. Mr Fancy Pants feat. T-Pain
10. Heart Throbbing feat. Lil Wayne

i swear this is 100% top notch humor

gallop to me

this 'motto' joint w/ lil wayne is p dope dudes

yeah i wasn't even gonna bother bringing it up but drake kinda rips that

leaky leaky

http://img.wonkette.com/assets/resources/2007/01/siren.gif

I wish this sucked I h8 drake so much

it doesnt suck?

ugh my timeline is all dudes jizzing over this bullshit

"shout out to asian girls / let the lights dim sum"

c'mon dawg

the production on "over my dead" is beautiful

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either "shot for me" has an uncredited weeknd guest spot or holy hell drake is trying to sound like the weeknd

ugh my timeline is all dudes jizzing over this bullshit

― MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Sunday, November 6, 2011 11:23 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i havent actually heard it yet i was just basing off this twitter reaction

haha some people are apparently in entirely difft twitter circles than me:

TheKidSeanMac Dj Sean MacNificent
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there's collaborating with the weeknd and then there's just putting two weeknd songs on your album

"take care" is borderline piano house

not rlly 'borderline' its just a house track lol

these beats sound p dope i wish someone good at rapping was on them

'underground kings' beat is ill. whats the just blaze one

the one w/ ross

it sounds exactly like just blaze

really digging kendrick on the "marvin's room" outro

drake breaking into the "duffel bag boy" hook for half a bar dovetails nicely with 2 chainz' ascendance

just really did some work on this

it's funny watching these production credits play out on wikipedia in real time

10. "Lord Knows" (featuring Rick Ross) Just Blaze(leave this alone) credits are correct

the next 2 weeks is gonna be all drake all the time. i chose a poor time to start reading twitter again regularly

murdercedes benz or that bubble double r
head lights flickin lookin like a fallen star

^really like this from the officer

the next 2 weeks is gonna be all drake all the time. i chose a poor time to start reading twitter again regularly

― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Monday, November 7, 2011 1:13 AM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark

yeah p much

the hook on "cameras" kinda has a early/mid 90s feel to it that i really dig

the swv sample on "shot for me" is dope

that will be the extent of my comments on this album right now

oh c'mon you started the thread!

Why does "The Weeknd" pronounce "crew" like that?

Is it a Canadian thing?

i need footnotes to tell me when drake is singing and when the weeknd is singing

andre's verse is hilarious -- makes reference to boise st's football field and rhymes "sad as hell" with "listening to adele"

"my nuts hang like ain't no curfew" is a hilarious line from wayne

...

oooh the "lord knows" beat is nasty.

"I know that showing emotion don't ever mean I'm a pussy"

lol

imagining Rick Ross in a sauna with jews

every beat on this album that uses piano is O___O good

oh damn this flip of "back that azz up" at the end is really novel

hahahaha except until he starts actually singing "back that azz up", that is

hahah what the fuuuuck is this song

Weird song.

it was REALLY cool for the first minute where you think it's just a sample of the beat, but yeah

last minute was kinda cool too

But the middle part was shameful.

i hope mannie actually gets paid for that, knowing cash money i'd doubt it tho

This Rihanna track is gonna be huge no?

rappers need to stop letting ross come in and beast on their albums hto

This Rihanna track is gonna be huge no?

― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, November 7, 2011 1:48 AM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest

man i hope so -- it would be really cool if there was a song on the radio that showcased other elements of dance music outside of thumping dr luke/max martin house

between this album, coldplay and her own, rihanna's gonna be on all three of the biggest releases of the fourth quarter

wiki is saying that "cameras" is a luger beat

lol @ dim sum line

this could be a bit shorter but it's a pretty fantastic album

Wouldn't have guessed, cool. The bass kick on that is beast. xp

i counted one grocery bag from drake on this, on the opening verse no less. he really couldn't help himself, huh?

Only one? wow

"Camera" = http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/yes/grand/yes_5656.gif

yeah, lol

cant stop staring at that gif

"underground kings" is kind of like if "the show goes on" wasn't the worst beat ever

cant stop staring at that gif

― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, November 7, 2011 2:02 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

THIS

kinda interesting that the wrong tracklist at the top was also right in some places

i don't know enough about anime to understand ross' "whippin yay like anime" line

Crew Love beat is really good, production is awesome throughout. I didn't want to like this, but I does.

I do wish Drake's voice was recessed in the mix a little bit, its so abrasive, would probably fit the mood better too.

http://nebbys.tumblr.com/

twitter is telling me this is the tumblr of the subject of 'best i ever had' #gossip

drake otm

I do wish Drake's voice was recessed in the mix a little bit, its so abrasive, would probably fit the mood better too.

― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, November 7, 2011 2:15 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

i think drake's voice is kind of unfixable... i mean i've made peace with it but if all these beats were on the rick ross album it would be the greatest thing ever

man this actually leaked kind of early. cant they usually hold this stuff down until like the weekend before it drops?

honestly it might actually help sales if word gets out that it's really good

"i think drake's voice is kind of unfixable... i mean i've made peace with it but if all these beats were on the rick ross album it would be the greatest thing ever"

Not that he needs to "fix his voice" really, and yeah at some point to enjoy drake you have make peace with it. I just think mixing it a little differently could help, but I would say the same if this was any other singer/rapper as well.

yeah i meant "the problem of drake's voice", not the voice itself

I actually find the new incarnation of Waynes recorded voice much more annoying.

yeah def

wayne's contributions to this album are so useless

"dreams money can buy" and "free spirit" should've definitely made the album though

yeah you could knock two of the weaker tracks from this and add those 2 + "club paradise" and have a much better album but oh well

you all downloaded this the minute it leaked like actual fans smh

Take Care =
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaXslpx3MWY

lex otm

yeah i was gonna say, al can you listen to this just to shit on it? what the hell at all this drake fans

mostly 40 means almost a full hour of morose submarine music

― some dude, Saturday, September 24, 2011 9:36 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark

^^called it

except that it's over an hour

this is basically like Drake rapping over the DJ Sprinkles album

how are y'all hearing this record? it doesn't come out until nov. 15th?

ysi?

production on everything i've heard is great, i might actually buy a drake album

this is basically like Drake rapping over the DJ Sprinkles album

this makes me curious but I guess I'd better just sticking with the DJ Sprinkles record?

I'm feeling the weird hard crashy stabs vs. "empty" / beatless choruses of "Crew Love"

I feel like this thread should be retitled "Throw on Your Best Cardigan and Celebrate Fall 2011 with Drake"

― The Reverend, Sunday, 23 October 2011 23:30 (2 weeks ago) Bookmark

lol

how are y'all hearing this record? it doesn't come out until nov. 15th?

― the tune is space, Monday, November 7, 2011 11:10 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

what year was this post constructed in? v odd

that is rev's best zing in a long minute

the second half of this album is amazing -- the "look what you've done" beat almost reminds me of "it's whatever" (which knowing drake might be intentional) & "cameras" is kinda crazy good, that chorus has some new jack swing stuff going on or something

i can't even

smh @ you

album has some nice beats no doubt

sorry bruh, i mean the very least you could say about drake is that he has good taste! he did a remix/cover of "friendly skies" on his mixtape! amd that good taste really manifests itself on this album.

i mean that would be just about the faintest praise, but it's also true

tons of reprehensible artists have good taste. alex (mtl) keeps talking about how that disgusting los campesinos dude likes cool r&b. i'm sure he does! he should still never open his mouth or go near a recording studio.

also, drake likes the weeknd, so not THAT good taste

also funny how when "run the world (girls)" dropped everyone shrieked OMG BEYONCÉ'S RIPPED OFF MAJOR LAZER but no one is doing the same thing for "take care" on this album which doesn't even have the good grace to do it to a particularly great beat

is it ripping off when Jamie XX was involved?

well it's the exact same situation - was it ripping off when diplo was involved in "run the world"?

tons of reprehensible artists have good taste. alex (mtl) keeps talking about how that disgusting los campesinos dude likes cool r&b. i'm sure he does! he should still never open his mouth or go near a recording studio.

right but my point is that his good taste has manifested itself positively in his music -- it's not merely just the idea of listening to good music. btw you could say the same thing about gareth campesinos if you were super into indie and wanted to talk about how xiu xiu or whatever has influenced their music.

also funny how when "run the world (girls)" dropped everyone shrieked OMG BEYONCÉ'S RIPPED OFF MAJOR LAZER but no one is doing the same thing for "take care" on this album which doesn't even have the good grace to do it to a particularly great beat

well for one, as number none points out, jamie xx was involved. secondly "pon de floor" is a pretty massive, well known track that had made a name for itself prior to beyonce using it, so i think it was a much worse idea & more difficult thing for her to pull off. also "run the world" just doesn't work as a song and makes no sense in the context of 4, where as the opposite is true for "take care"

i'll give you a point on the weeknd comment tho

I don't know who the people crying rip off in the case of Beyonce were anyway. It's not like we know the process, whether Diplo/Jamie offered up the beats themselves or were asked if they could use them. Regardless, i'm pretty sure you could find some enraged "We're New Here" fans right now if you tried

e.g.

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i'm resting in the uncomfortable position where i still find Drake to be a really douchey person who happens to have a sense for aesthetics & has made probably the best record he will make

you gotta give it up for the line about how michael jordan is still wearing his hoop earring, though

i'm pretty comfortable with that

xp

This is better than WTT

now there's a high bar

is it better than tha carter iv

(i still haven't bothered to listen to that. one day.)

woof the weeknd still bothers me on this. he sounds corny

every time he drops an http://kkkorner.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/nbomb5.jpg?w=350&h=259 its jarring, not at white-people-dropping-it level, but more like he-doesnt-sound-like-hes-used-to-saying-it level

haha who did that autoreplace??

i mess w/ 'underground kings' that song bangs in the right way

this is unquestionably a much better record than TML. sorta makes that look like crap in comparison

yeah it does sound awkward all right. Also i thought he was white for quite a while

what year was this post constructed in? v odd

― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Monday, 7 November 2011 19:17 (2 hours ago)

was kinda being sarcastic there, but it's true that I can't find any mediafire, megaupload or other spots for this leak- like everything keeps getting shut down I guess? for a major album that has leaked it's proving oddly hard for me to find (insert *u old* disses here)

this is like rap record dinner party music tho

xxps

maybe that dinner party vibe is partially about the canadian-ness- i.e. "toronto the good", it's hardly sin city up there

webmailed u tune is space

thx bro!

its jarring, not at white-people-dropping-it level, but more like he-doesnt-sound-like-hes-used-to-saying-it level

it is definitely jarring, but is that just down to the fact that it's being sung (and sometimes held out at the end of a line)?

i dunno other R&B singers have been dropping it for awhile. maybe they just made it seem more conversational while he's plumbing it for significance or something

lovin this so far I have to say, ouch at the acapella bit at the end of "headlines" but otherwise yeah

esp. dig the synth in "Buried Alive"

okay the beat for "We'll Be Fine" sounds like it was made out of the same pattern/file as the beat on "She Will"- the bassline is diff. but the skeleton of the rhythm itself sounds way similar

kinda think this is up there w/ LVM & LTTP as the best produced rap or r&b albums of the past few years. the fact that it's a drake album means i won't ever love it as much as those (obv) but from a pure "holy shit all this just sounds AWESOME" perspective, it's up there

the debate i'm kinda interested in is how many people will think this is better than 'late registration'

not better than late registration (which is still maybe my secret favourite Kanye albums, notwithstanding the bloat) but this is really quite nice and way better than anything i expected from fuckin' drake.

yeah it's not better than LR i agree, but you could draw a lot of similarities there so i'm wondering how this is going to be received vis a vis LR

whoah that stevie wonder cameo on harmonica, wowzers

Yeah that was cool and unexpected.

the Andre verse is killer too

This will come as no surprise, but I really fucking like this.

And this is miles better than Thank Me Later. I'm really impressed by how Drake's really developed his own sound and nailed this one very specific aesthetic, thanks of course to 40, too. Those two are like Guru and Premo /ridiculouscomparison

it always seemed to me like regardless of whatever else you say about him, drake pretty much staked out his own particular aesthetic since way back on so far gone?

yeah if anything i would say i love this album not bcuz he nails his specific aesthetic (which was just kinda predictable post 808s boilerplate) but bcuz it really uses that aesthetic to go places that he never really hinted at going

Right right, but he keeps diving deeper and deeper into it, fleshing it out in a lot of ways, I mean.

i guess -- i would say its an outward growth not an inward growth

prolly doesn't matter either way tho

Outward how? I don't think we're disagreeing in terms of ideas, here.

quick srs q: can Canadian television star Aubrey Graham rap now?

ummm, sort of but it's kinda irrelevant

do ya'll have 16 tracks of 17

Also, great Jon B sample on "Cameras."

The Minaj collab is okay; I prefer his bit on J. Cole's "In the Morning."

3 songs in only like the first joint, but I already knew "Headlines" sux

"headlines" sucks so, so bad, it bears repeating

"Headlines" > "Over," solely by virtue of having few clunkers and a really great beat.

a great beat, really?

the production on this weeknd track is cool, but the hook is really, really stupid.

The Minaj collab is okay; I prefer his bit on J. Cole's "In the Morning."

― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, November 7, 2011 9:36 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah i don't think any leak has that purported final track

yeah the "headlines" beat is rudimentary as fuck

whoops i didn't mean to paste alfred's post there

was drizzy even on "crew love"?

yeah the shitty thing about those weeknd tracks is they sound like straight weeknd tracks

Rudimentary, yeah, but I'm a sucker for synths and 808s like that.

my copy has got a little blip at around 3:50 on the first track

The rip going around now is pretty lousy, that's why, dayo.

title track is good as everyone has said. would def. be happy if this was a single.

my copy has got a little blip at around 3:50 on the first track

― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Monday, November 7, 2011 9:44 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

yeah mine too

12. Signed, Sealed….Heartbroken feat. Trey Songz

12. Signed, Sealed….Heartbroken feat. Trey Songz

12. Signed, Sealed….Heartbroken feat. Trey Songz

12. Signed, Sealed….Heartbroken feat. Trey Songz

12. Signed, Sealed….Heartbroken feat. Trey Songz

ive decided i dont like drake because he's not authentic and i prefer my rappers authentic. thoughts?

nope

the problem with "crew love" isn't that it's basically a weeknd track so much as it's just 3 mins of "THEY LOVIN THE CREEEWWW THEY LOVIN THE CREEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWW" rly tho?

lol xp

yeah i dont like that song at all

"headlines" sucks so, so bad, it bears repeating

― some dude, Monday, November 7, 2011 9:39 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

ive decided i dont like drake because he's not authentic and i prefer my rappers authentic. thoughts?

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the problem with "crew love" isn't that it's basically a weeknd track so much as it's just 3 mins of "THEY LOVIN THE CREEEWWW THEY LOVIN THE CREEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWW" rly tho?

so the problem is that it's basically a weeknd track?

what the fuck is this spoken word shit

ive decided i dont like drake because he's not authentic and i prefer my rappers authentic. thoughts?

― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Monday, November 7, 2011 7:47 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

LAWL. Authenticity doesn't exist.

I could do without "Crew Love." That's the only one that feels like a Weeknd ft. Drake track to me.

I'm okay with treating this as just a pop album, like as if I were listening to a rihanna album or something idk

well it is a pop album, so that's okay

Yeah, when has Drake been anything other than a pop rapper?

what happened to your DARK AND DISTURBING LOOK INTO DRAKE'S TWISTED MIND angle j0rdan?

so the problem is that it's basically a weeknd track?

― J0rdan S., Monday, November 7, 2011 6:49 PM Bookmark

i haven't heard a weeknd track this dumb and repetitive before but lets not get into this

oh man please never play 'thursday,' rev

hmmm, it's been sitting on my hard drive, but it's horrible tagged, which makes me 30 thousand 100 million times less likely to listen to anything.

what happened to your DARK AND DISTURBING LOOK INTO DRAKE'S TWISTED MIND angle j0rdan?

― some dude, Monday, November 7, 2011 9:53 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

there's still def an element of that (and it's not like that part of him was not pop! i mean, "marvin's room" & "i'm on one" are huge hits) but he left a lot of those tracks ("trust issues", "club paradise") off the album. and the album would actually be better w/ those songs on it

yeah 'thursday' is straight ass

hah I think I just got the official mixtape from his site and mine was tagged alright. but if you didnt like crew love then youll hate thursday

it seriously bums me out whenever 'headlines' comes in on the car, which is like every 5 minutes

this kendrick bit is cool

i like "headlines" a lot but it's kind of lowkey for a single and i wouldn't call it amazing or anything

"Look What You've Done" is kinda great. About his momma?

tuck a napkin in your shirt cause you swallow garbage like that

"Look What You've Done" is kinda great. About his momma?

― "I know its hard to hear but I'm a Realest." (rennavate), Monday, November 7, 2011 9:59 PM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark

the recording of his mom or grandma at the end is kind of moving : X

not feeling "underground kings" as much as other people have

my connection between "look what you've done" & "it's whatever" gets stronger now that it's come out that chase n chache supposedly sampled a youtube video of static rehearsing a song on the piano

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5F5xP6cwRg&feature=youtu.be&t=1m3s

Wow, that's really really cool.

lol at ross' "only fat nigga in the sauna with jews" line

that's his second best line ever about old white ppl after "keep white in the office, call it jerry heller"

yeeaaahh, that jon b sample on "cameras" is really dope. drake's hook on this is another really dopey one tho

haha xp

most of the second half of this album has been kind of competent and boring

wait till you get to "practice"

not a game, we're talking about "practice"

hahaha

i love that that moment is so transcendent that even a dude like ship has it in the memory bank

so quotable

there's a radio dj here that uses it as a drop all the time

you guys make this record sound really dull (like a drake record) and yet you keep talking about it. so is it... not dull as balls? idgi

listen for yourself

if you dont like drake, then you wont like this, simple as.

Doubt it will convert anyone.

that's not true!

i mean it's really engrossing from a production standpoint imo, like even ppl like deej & rev seem to be saying "i get it" even if they're not totally digging the album

most all of the second half of this album has been kind of competent and boring

You think this is that different from what he's done previously? xp

if you dont like drake, then you wont like this, simple as.

― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, November 7, 2011 7:45 PM Bookmark

yeah, kinda wish i'd been told this. people were making it sound like even a non-fan would enjoy it.

You think this is that different from what he's done previously? xp

― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, November 7, 2011 10:52 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

i think it's MUCH more accomplished than TML, yes

Accomplished yeah, but its still the same ingredients, just tastes a little better.

i mean it's a drake album, sure. it sounds like a drake album. i think you could say that for like, every rapper ever. i mean was anyone ever like "wow this doesn't sound like an [x rapper] record at all!" i'm not sure. it's just like a better drake record than i ever thought drake was capable of making.

this thread seriously is Bizarro-ILX

(except for Al)

why do you say that

(isn't it obvious)--the rampant Drake praise.

it's all well qualified tho......

i haven't heard a weeknd track this dumb and repetitive before

― cannibal adderley (The Reverend), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:54 (1 hour ago) Bookmark

i would actually prefer a weeknd ft. drake song to a lot of stuff on this album, & in general feel relief whenever someone else is on, but this is otm

pretty mad at how that beat got wasted like that tbh

it makes me sad to see everyone expending their energy and time and enthusiasm on this guy when YOU DON'T EVEN LIKE HIM THAT MUCH

talking of moody and introspective soul music with great production, meshell ndegéocello just released an album. i think her thread has about 5 new posts since it dropped ;_;

i'm v excited about her album but the only way to listen to it right now is streaming off a website which is a dealbreaker for me

^

"I started fucking in ink"

GROSS

sigh, i am listening to this.

the first track is dreadful. so incredibly boring and his voice just leands like leaden slabs of sleaze on your ears. and the dim sum line >:(

distant tinkling piano and not much else => much-vaunted "great production" still to come then?

haha "man all of your flows bore me: paint drying" really? #albumsthatreviewthemselves

and a tax whinge to cap it off smh

"shot for me". a complete nothing of a song. at least you don't notice the insufferably condescending lyrics until he starts rapping. how did this dude get a nice guy rep again? he's such a cunt.

he says "sorry" 80 times a song is why

i actually want to count how many times he's apologized in his records and write about that but that would involve a lot of listening i just don't want to do

glad that lex is bringing an un-jaundiced eye to the table

"headlines". i already know i hate this. god he's voice is so inert and nasal! how can anyone stand it! and trap drums + smoove strings ≠ production to blow your mind, smh at comparing this to LTTP or LvM

they're not really trap drums, they're tinny tick tock drums

"crew love". is there even a song in this anywhere? or are him and weeknd dude just going to moan aimlessly and feel sorry for themselves for the whole thing? oh over halfway through and we get a rap about college that pretty much says nothing about anything apart from "i thought the college dropout was a good album". i did too drake!

haha it's funny that RIHANNA of all people actually sounds ALIVE AND EMOTIONAL when she pops up in the middle of this

i thought this beat was overrated to start with and drake isn't helping matters. his "sensitivity" consists pretty much entirely of telling girls how empty their lives are right?

that little breakdown will make n00bs go nuts but it really is kind of pathetic in comparison to, y'know, actually exciting breakdowns that aren't COMPLETELY CATATONIC.

"marvin's room". gonna skip this. can we make jojo redo this whole album please?

still disappointed the whole album wasn't songs w/ the same titles as meryl streep movies

"underground kings". is this is meant to be the banger? um...lol.

why does he keep repeating shit? it makes him sound like he keeps forgetting the words. and another total fail of a chorus there. quoting birdman and referencing UGK (kmt at his nerve) just highlights the total lack of energy.

"we'll be fine". DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE TAKE AALIYAH'S NAME IN VAIN AGAIN

She said, “you’re such a dog”, I said, “you’re such a bone.”

.............

seriously though where is this amazing production? it's all the same dreary synths that i guess are meant to signify ~emotional bleakness~ and it's all completely monochrome - LTTP and LvM comparisons way way offbase, the thing with those albums is that while they had gorgeous textures you could vibe out to all over them they also had a sense of motion, constant tangents and surprises and inventiveness running through them. this has...drums that are a bit too loud.

the fact that it's a drake album means i won't ever love it as much as those (obv)

but you can't get away from the fact that it's a drake album! his voice and persona are so foregrounded and there isn't a whole lot else. "lord knows" is the first beat i'm feeling, that actually raises itself up from a prone position of self-pity - i mean it's not an amazing beat but a decent rapper could really make something of it y'know. that is not drake, who appears to think we should feel sorry for him because he hates himself for being interested in strippers.

"cameras".

this sounds like ass. drums are too loud and his voice is uncomfortably high in the mix, it feels like he's right in your ear and it is GROSS. as are the lyrics. seriously this dude is justifying fucking around by saying the the other girl only looks good on camera and he's meant to be a paradigm shift in hip-hop attitudes? such bullshit.

GOD STOP SAYING "ARE YOU ME ARE YOU ME" OVER AND FUCKING OVER AGAIN LIKE IT'S A HOOK YOU INADEQUATE PIECE OF SHIT

"doing it wrong". this is the first track that sounds vaguely okay - still completely nothingy but his higher register is easier to take (more anonymous ie doesn't sound like him) and the chorus hints at a pretty melody. please come back when it's finished!

haha harmonica at the end, i like that actually.

"the real her". another song predicated on being proud of a girl for something that's nothing to do with him. he's the kind of boy that gets told "you're not my father" every time he gets dumped.

"if something isn't right then who will i complain to" god he even admits that all he does is moan.

the drums sound shit again. there's so little going on in the arrangement but no one's turned the drums down concomitantly - they need to be as soft as the spacey synths, but as it is they're sharp and jarring.

for all that most of his songs are centred around either A Girl who he places on a pedestal or His Own Navel, he's remarkably bad at characterisation - i don't feel like there's been a single interesting detail about anyone he's described. it's just totally empty of personality.

"look what you've done" could be a decent narrative if he wasn't droning it like a call centre worker reading from a script

I'M SO BORED

like does he put any effort into his vocals? at all?

"hell ya fuckin right" is probably the best so far, i like the beat and wayne is largely okay on it, even if the chorus is another complete damp squib. love that epic synth noise though.

THANK GOD ONLY ONE MORE TO GO.

"practice".

oh ugh this is his skeaziest yet. "all those other men were practice for me" like he's a dirty old man talking to a sex trafficking victim in a filthy brothel. DNW

in short: this is the worst album i have heard this year and drake needs to die.

i'm not gettin at you lex but, cf the watch the throne thing, are you listening to this out of curiosity or to exorcise some bile or what?

that's an either/or?

you can't react with bile if you listen out of curiosity?

actually though i listened to it For Work.

it's good that lex didn't have any opinions about this album before he started listening to it

i didn't though? i had opinions about the singles, and about drake. i listened to the album in order to have opinions about it specifically.

you're really gonna claim you listened to this with fresh ears?

are people not allowed to opine on artists they already have opinions about...

i already loved ciara, should i not have talked about or reviewed basic instinct?

actually though i listened to it For Work.

― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 14:02 (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

ha, that's all i was wondering; you'd just seemed v ambivalent about the idea of curiosity listening wrt records that you know you're gonna hate, i can see how professionalism is something diff.

no i get the curiosity thing, i was just SMHing about everyone leaping at it the minute it leaked as though they couldn't wait, as though they had nothing better to check out first, in a way that they wouldn't for many other artists

whether you hate or love drake, ou can't deny this isn't a big cultural event

i don't really like the idea that the "biggest" albums should automatically be at the front of the queue when it comes to what we choose to listen to, or that the "conversation" is more important than the music

i trust everyone will be on the meshell ndegéocello album as soon as it's out next week? or because she's not a platinum-selling artist does that make you want to bother less?

yep, it makes me want to bother less. in fact, I don't think I'm gonna listen to it at all now.

shut up you 2 that was a hilarious lex liveblog

i will not apologize for eagerly anticipating and listening to the drake album

I think it's a bit odd to castigate people for listening to the Drake album right when it leaks or whatever. I listen to all kinds of music all day every day, as I'm sure most people on here do. It's not gonna effect my ability to listen to other stuff if if choose to download Take Care when it leaks. Right now, for example, i'm listening to the Cousin Fik tape which Lex recommended on the gun sounds thread. It's really good!

"that was a hilarious lex liveblog"

otm

She said, “you’re such a dog”, I said, “you’re such a bone.”

.............

― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Tuesday, November 8, 2011 12:52 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i just have to come back to that because I CAN'T EVEN. WHAT.

He boned her, you see.

hexmurda hex hawking
Nigga, I DO NOT hate @drake. I actually have a lot of respect for his mgmt. I just think he makes music for niggas who collect dandelions.

loool

GUILTY AS CHARGED *reveals extensive dandelion collection*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GumYKJSl354

One thing I think is off-putting about the Weekend's presence here is that Abel's character is way skeezier and creepier than Drake ever is. Drake's conflicted, but he seems to ultimately have this empathetic streak to him that the Weeknd only ever shows obliquely.

"I'm really scared for my generation, you know. The thing that scares me most is Tumblr." — Drake

the rest of that quote is actually p interesting and maybe even v otm

full quote:

I'm really scared for my generation, you know. The thing that scares me most is Tumblr. I hate what Tumblr has become. Because it like, it reminds me of those clique-y girls in high school that used to make fun of everyone and define what was cool, but in five years, when you all graduate, that shit doesn't matter. No one gives a fuck about that shit. Instead of kids going out and making their own moments, they're just taking these images and living vicariously through other people's moments. It just kills me. Then you'll meet them and they're just the biggest turkey in the world. They don't actually embody any of those things. They just emulate. It's scary man, simulation life that we're living. It scares me.

So, on "Look What You've Done": first verse about his mom, second his uncle?

does it hype him up and make him catch a body like that?

xp

fyi drake shows up in gis for "biggest turkey in the world".

i don't really like the idea that the "biggest" albums should automatically be at the front of the queue when it comes to what we choose to listen to, or that the "conversation" is more important than the music

i trust everyone will be on the meshell ndegéocello album as soon as it's out next week? or because she's not a platinum-selling artist does that make you want to bother less?

― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 14:25 (7 hours ago) Permalink

Look how far we've all come.

full quote:

I'm really scared for my generation, you know. The thing that scares me most is Tumblr. I hate what Tumblr has become. Because it like, it reminds me of those clique-y girls in high school that used to make fun of everyone and define what was cool, but in five years, when you all graduate, that shit doesn't matter. No one gives a fuck about that shit. Instead of kids going out and making their own moments, they're just taking these images and living vicariously through other people's moments. It just kills me. Then you'll meet them and they're just the biggest turkey in the world. They don't actually embody any of those things. They just emulate. It's scary man, simulation life that we're living. It scares me.

― markers, Tuesday, November 8, 2011 3:53 PM (1 hour ago)

yeah sarge this was super deep *farts*

xpost that said I'm keen to hear the Me'Shell!

for all that most of his songs are centred around either A Girl who he places on a pedestal or His Own Navel, he's remarkably bad at characterisation - i don't feel like there's been a single interesting detail about anyone he's described. it's just totally empty of personality.

― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Tuesday, November 8, 2011 5:17 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This is otm.

Otherwise, big lols at lex's spleen.

Look how far we've all come.

― Tim F, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 17:19 (31 minutes ago) Bookmark

ha otm. if anything this is bizarro ilx because of deej & lex's posts, not j0rdan's

stop posting itt immediately & go post in the heavy d thread

New mixtape: Simpulacrum Life

yeah sarge this was super deep *farts*

― MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Tuesday, November 8, 2011 5:23 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

i didn't say it was deep

it reminds me of those clique-y girls in high school

hmm

I love this album. Sorry for all the mean things I said over the last three years, Drake.

finally, some sense itt

Ladies and gentlemen, the gangsta Salem has arrived

yeah another dude who thought MBDTF and WTT were hot likes this album i'm getting hype xp

I have never not thought that Tim! What do you think? Drake is automatically more worthy of attention than Meshell?

Whiney did you seriously like WTT and Stupid Fantasy??!!

I'm on a bus jamming LTTP atm and my mind is still being blown by it a year on - every word every sound - I'm sure you'll all think that because it's not a ~cultural event~ like Fucking Drake we shouldn't be talking about it though

I love MBDTF and like the beats on WTT but hate the " rapping"

Also how is the guy with the Kim Kardash lyric as his display name the one it's implied is out of touch w/pop culture

Xp kmt

lex idk how it is over there but i can't act like everyone on my timeline isn't talking about this, shit last night less than 24 hours after it leaked it was all people were talking about on the basketball court

^

That's kind of how it was over here! Make no mistake every time all the critics on my timeline get excited about a thing - make no mistake I HATE THAT THING and think they have incredibly poor taste

idg whats so unexpected about my posts on this thread i'm pretty much *shrugs* abt it & wont listen that much, p much fits in w/ how i reacted to my big dumb beautiful fantasy, its one of those things that's so major it'll impact hip-hop whether u want it to or not so its kind of a must-hear

i think of "must-hear" as "something that is really excellent"

stop talking like industry people

all these arguments are the ones made by PRs every day that i have to studiously ignore in order to find and hear the music i actually think is deserving of coverage

yeah god forbid you know the popular albums in the genre you cover

ugh -- do we hate Drake that much that we're actually defying him to entertain us. as much as I've clowned Drake, shouldn't we listen to the album first before we clown it? or at least listen without fingers in our ears?

that would be a good argument if Drake wasn't about to sell some ridiculous number of copies. no one is asking you to respect the album but knowing it -- esp for someone like you, for whom this album is, like, dead center in the middle of two genres you cover -- is kind of essential for your job

imo

xp to lex

Look how far we've all come.

― Tim F, Tuesday, November 8, 2011 10:19 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

OTM this thread is a beauty to behold

you've all listened to all of eminem's output in recent years?

does drake selling lots of records make him more worthy of your attention than meshell? that's all i'm asking. as someone who has listened to both.

xpost actually yes I have, lex

i think y'all should be interrogating what the zeitgeist is and how it's being formed and who is forming it, is what i'm saying, not blindly and slavishly following it

xpost unless you're including The Re-Up in that, but yea, even the mediocre Encore and shitty Relapse albums...

xp my sympathies

THE TRAUMA OF LISTENING TO ALBUMS I DIDN'T LIKE

"I'm a professional political reporter. I have to try EXTRA HARD to ignore Herman Cain so I can focus on the candidates deserving REAL coverage."

i mean if "it's popular! it sells lots of copies!" is your primary metric for what albums you prioritise hearing, well, i do feel very sorry for you

is lex going through some sort of pre-mid-life crisis here or what

eminem isn't getting play on the radio stations i listen to; drake is. drake is squarely w/in hip-hop & R&B in a way Em hasn't been since his 3rd album

i say this as someone who, i'm fairly sure, has heard more "major" albums in the last few years than any of you except maybe whiney

i mean if "it's popular! it sells lots of copies!" is your primary metric for what albums you prioritise hearing, well, i do feel very sorry for you

― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Tuesday, November 8, 2011 6:39 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

who said anything about 'primary metric'

ahahahahah "the radio stations i listen to"

i say this as someone who, i'm fairly sure, has heard more "major" albums in the last few years than any of you except maybe whiney

― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Tuesday, November 8, 2011 6:40 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

so you admit your position is totally incoherent

IF THAT'S YOUR POSITION.....WELL IT WASN'T LAST NIGHT

is that a Drake lyric

IF THAT'S YOUR POSITION.....WELL IT WASN'T LAST NIGHT

― Neanderthal, Tuesday, November 8, 2011 6:41 PM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lmao

is that a Drake lyric

― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, November 8, 2011 6:43 PM (49 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

its meshell

so you admit your position is totally incoherent

no, i prioritise what i find interesting, which often happens to be major albums, but not nec because they're major albums

look the thing is the number of copies drake sells is irrelevant here. it's a red herring. if that was the case you'd just be listening to the top billboard albums and there are a ton of those you'll never bother with. it's because you want to be part of the ~critical conversation~ so you follow what other critics are talking to. fucking herd mentality!

how on earth are meshell and drake being set up against each other itt. i def prefer the former but cmon dude. u sound like a rockist talking about how if only the pop charts could understand REAL ART

guys while you are listening to Drake, Me'Shell is playing "Leviticus: Faggot" to EMPTY ARENAS! THIS IS ON YOU

u sound like a rockist talking about how if only the pop charts could understand REAL ART

yep. word for word

it's like all of a sudden Lex is grandpa simpson

they both make moody "soul" records. one has done a fantastic record but critics are not talking about her so you're not either. the other has made a dreadfuk record in line with his dreadful career but OMG IMPORTANT SELLS RECORDS ROCK CRITICS LOVE HIM LET'S TALK ABOUT DRAKE AND NOT MESHELL

also i refuse to be cast as the anti-pop one when i am the only one here who wil rep for kim kardashian's single

I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me, and it'll happen to you, too...

xp

hey lex i haven't listened to drake :)

when meshell's album isn't just streaming on npr.org i'll talk about it. you're really taking this line of argument up with the wrong people tbh

m@tt! :)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3218/2958166658_13f97e7e81.jpg

as i've said though commercial popularity is a red herring here. if it's not i trust you've all listened to the coldplay, kelly clarkson, adele and tom waits albums? (hang on, tom waits has a top 10 album in your country wtf?)

i wasn't crazy abt the tom waits single but heard the whole album at a friend's house and i really ended up liking it, kinda cool almost 50s sounding recording, kinda odd but it works

i haven't listened to kelly clarkson because the genres i care about dont include her. this is pretty elementary, lex!

maybe if her album had a rick ross feature or just blaze beats

or me'shell ndegeocello

i mean, i'm sure at some pt i'll check out coldplay or the waits record. but i have no sense of professional obligation to know what those sound like. whereas, for the genres i do cover, i do.

not sure what's so hard to understand about this

i think boxing yourself into certain popular genres (and off from certain other popular ones) is kind of weird. i mean you like katy perry don't you? why then would you not care about kelly clarkson, who is kind of like if katy perry could sing and wasn't completely intolerable?

hang on what you like rick ross that much?

KMFT he is A BAD RAPPER and no amount of stockholm syndrome filling-the-void "popularity" will change that

its so crazy that i posted in the Heavy D RIP thread but not the dimebag darrell one!! what a hypocrit

i think boxing yourself into certain popular genres (and off from certain other popular ones) is kind of weird. i mean you like katy perry don't you? why then would you not care about kelly clarkson, who is kind of like if katy perry could sing and wasn't completely intolerable?

― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Tuesday, November 8, 2011 6:57 PM (58 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i like 2 katy perry singles. i didnt check her album either

we're going thru the wormhole here

i for one listened had an opinion on drake bcuz he was popular, listened to his first album once because he was popular and powerful and i thought as a critic i should have an opinion on it, i listened to this album and want to talk about it a lot because i think it's great, and i could care less about what it's going to sell. i don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to converse with your critics and friends and thus deciding to listen to an album that lots of ppl are talking about.

& yes i really don't think meshell and drake need to be pitted together on ilm of all places, sheesh

lex you are being weird right now imo

...like a basketball player

okay well i trust i'll see you all on the meshell thread in a few days

maybe on the mary j one in a few weeks

when you make listening to the artists you like seem like a chore you're not doing them any favors

okay well i trust i'll see you all on the meshell thread in a few days

― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Tuesday, November 8, 2011 8:01 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

maybe on the mary j one in a few weeks

― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Tuesday, November 8, 2011 8:02 PM (56 seconds ago) Bookmark

you probably will!

what is with this zero-sum-gain thinking? it's not like me'shell's music is going to evaporate cuz the attention on the board is going to this album, which is probably the biggest release of the year

when you make listening to the artists you like seem like a chore you're not doing them any favors

you didn't think of listening to drake as a chore? i bloody did

a chore you began lamenting before hitting 'play'

lex how wld u feel abt another critic or even just poster coming into a thread abt mariah carey or idk any other pop star u think has value & criticizing ppl liking or even just listening to it as "fuckin herd mentality!" ? u are being ridiculous imo

i haven't listened to kelly clarkson because the genres i care about dont include her. this is pretty elementary, lex!

― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Tuesday, November 8, 2011 7:54 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

maybe if her album had a rick ross feature or just blaze beats

― AFAP Raggett (D-40), Tuesday, November 8, 2011 7:55 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

darkchild, ester dean and james fauntleroy worked on it fwiw, but those songs don't sound very R&B or anything

lex keep fighting the good fight, drake is garbage, y'all are turning into dandelion enthusiasts

hey j0rdan i liked yr pusha t review btw

this m'shell is pretty good! though i guess i'm surprised you like it lex! it seems to have a certain sorta boring respectiblility that i don't associate w/you

if kelly clarkson had a 2 chainz feature

thank you m@tt

lex how wld u feel abt another critic or even just poster coming into a thread abt mariah carey or idk any other pop star u think has value & criticizing ppl liking or even just listening to it as "fuckin herd mentality!" ? u are being ridiculous imo

most of the posters itt were not drake fans and only listened to it because it was this week's critical conversation

m@tt remember i love sade

if any artist leaves me NO motivation to listen to their album just to 'keep up' it's Drake -- he'll have like 20 songs in heavy rotation over the next year, a quarter of which will be from this album. i really don't feel like i'm missing out on anything.

xxxpost j0rdan's been posting about how he's been thinking this might be good for months!

you should prob give it a spin, it's pretty great

xpost yeah def get the sade thing

it's just sometimes lex i feel like you shit on certain things because they have kind of an "NPR" appeal you know?

maybe when it's on spotify i'll put it on but the idea of hunting for a leak and making a point to put it on my ipod and spend an hour with it at work is like NO

i won't argue w/ that

(i hope you were making a reference to the nicki minaj line there)

what is NPR? i only know it as that place that ann powers writes for, often excellently

yessss

this m'shell album is good! liking it more as it goes on

what is NPR? i only know it as that place that ann powers writes for, often excellently

― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Tuesday, November 8, 2011 7:23 PM (10 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

national public radio..sorry..i guess here it is shorthand for a certain kinda boring adult middlebrow appeal? like i bet there's a BBC radio station that would be equivalent in tone (bbb6 maybe?)

radio 2! and haha yeah 6music as well even if it likes to think of itself as hipper.

all i'm trying to do is interrogate what records get default critical attention and why. really hate it when every critic on my timeline is talking about the same mediocre major label release, all of them seem beholden to the same blog leak or press release. they all seem to be followers, not leaders

fight the power bro

I think lex just gets mad when critics pay attention to something that didn't get the lex seal

fwiw the only thing i've written publicly about drake was pretty much primarily critical so al's complaint doesnt really register for me either

which complaint?

that we listened to the album so we're all drake stans collecting dandelions

well yeah obv not everyone itt is a fan but j0rdan and whiney are pretty disappointing tbh

fwiw if i was asked to publish a review somewhere that didn't have to be positive at all i'd download it right this second

lex keep fighting the good fight, drake is garbage, y'all are turning into dandelion enthusiasts

i knew there was a reason i clicked on this thread

time for the Blue Slide Park thread

lol

http://pitchfork.com/news/44569-drake-hates-tumblr-likes-leaks/

kind of... perceptive?

http://hugsfromdrake.tumblr.com/

so, not much talk about the rapping on this rap record. is it any good?

Certainly better than the shit trashbag flow of his previous abortions. Dude isn't Kane or anything but def gets the Rick Rock Honorary most improved trophy

*Rick Ross

I counted one hashbag on the whole record

three songs in, nodding my head to the production for the most part - i've always much preferred drake's r&b side to his rapping - atmospherically this alright. drake's rapping has certainly improved from his nadir but improving from actively bad to inoffensively ignorable isn't a game-changing achievement or anything.

still, not despising this like i thought i would

after four songs still no grocery bags i've noticed but then he's not really rapping all that much

from sales of this album he should finally be able to afford that surgery to move his eyes closer to the center of his face

"underground kings" is pretty underwhelming, people are feeling this? in this environment it'll be the hardest thing msot people hear on the radio but it's solidly soft-serve as far as rap bangers go. what 'city' is he 'doing it for' again? lol

did kendrick just say "nymphet"? i could use more nabokov references in my rap generally

nikki had to go and ruin the best flow of the record with a grocery bag

wow i'm fucking with "lord knows"

well the back half or so of this is kinda just there, huh

so this album was kind of a pleasant surprise in some respects - you just wait for drake to make you want to turn it off but the best thing that can probably be said about this is that it's extremely listenable (not sure how that'll apply to repeat listens). sarge otm when he said that drake made the best album he had in him - which is still just a 6/10 or so but much better than i was expecting - he admirably suppressed his most hateable tendencies and rode his strengths, which mostly is his atmosphere - even if it comes off a bit samey

sarge should be shot for comparing the production to LTTP, though, straight up

Ironically I wasn't motivated to listen to this any time soon but lex's visceral hatred is weirdly compelling?

OTOH I tend to trust k3vin on these things and there are a lot of 6/10 records out there.

"IF THAT'S YOUR POSITION.....WELL IT WASN'T LAST NIGHT"

"guys while you are listening to Drake, Me'Shell is playing "Leviticus: Faggot" to EMPTY ARENAS! THIS IS ON YOU"

"time for the Blue Slide Park thread"

"from sales of this album he should finally be able to afford that surgery to move his eyes closer to the center of his face"

Neanderthal killing it itt.

Good summary KK.

otm

"lord knows" is definitely the cut off of this - i honestly can't tell if i actually dig drake's rapping on that or if that beat obscures the tone of his voice so much that the competence he brings to the table is enough

i'm no rawse fan either but he brings it too

well the back half or so of this is kinda just there, huh

rly tho

Huh, this was kind of dull on first listen, and I *liked* TML!

there's a small sample of esg's swangin and bangin on HYFR (gotta do what i gotta do)

record is fucking amazing

in what regard

in it's capacity to turn lex into a rockist

so good it brought cutty out of exile

I haven't felt any desire to listen to this album since the first go-around

drake's rapping is definitely a problem, I don't really mind it per se but he only has one gear in the gearbox. he sounds like justin bieber on that talkshow, so one-note.

like at least diddy would change up the flow depending on who was ghostwriting for him. drake is just blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah

actively keeping myself from binging on this

actively keeping myself from binging on this

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, November 9, 2011 5:27 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

My review is due tomorrow, so I don't have that luxury.

do you have a real copy or are you reviewing the crappy leak we all got?

btw i'm passively keeping myself from binging on this

I have the actual album. No bonus tracks, but I do have "The Ride."

this'll prob be the only actual album i buy this year

"The Ride" is out there now

binging looks so weird... bingeing imo

i agree

this'll prob be the only actual album i buy this year

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, November 9, 2011 6:42 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

waht

as long as you're not supporting an artist who could use it. lol?

i have no use for physical copies of music but i want to make sure i have a quality version of this album

binging looks so weird... bingeing imo

― ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Wednesday, November 9, 2011 7:50 PM (7 minutes ago)

i like the former better, leaveing the e in there looks british

yeh but it invites a hard g so it makes it sound like you're dinging drake

woah ppl are really liking this album

http://www.metacritic.com/music/thank-me-later/critic-reviews

not super shocking, rock critics have bad taste always will

my friend chris played Take Care for me last night bc it has Rihanna in it and i really liked it

rihanna's the best part about that song

comes nowhere near "what's my name" however

no it does not

i have no use for physical copies of music but i want to make sure i have a quality version of this album

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, November 9, 2011 6:58 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

?? whats wrong with the one from the internet?

shut the fuck up, deej

shut the fuck up, deej

I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers

i have no use for physical copies of music but i want to make sure i have a quality version of this album

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, November 9, 2011 6:58 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

?? whats wrong with the one from the internet?

it's a bad rip

my copy is 192 -- usually i don't go thru the trouble of getting the best possible versions of every album i listen to, but i like this one a lot and i think the production is great and would like to hear it at the highest bit rate that i can!

why whiney mad

this will get a 9.5+ from p4k t/f

why whiney mad

because deej is like actively trying to convince someone to not buy music. fuck that

i know the money should be going to LEN Bonus Boys or whatever crap, but stfu

eh it's just drake

i think deej is trying to convince j0rdan to buy a CD, any CD, other than drake this year

which sucks mainly because he'll be contributing to the AMAZING FIRST WEEK NUMBERS that the media will use to further cement how very important drake supposedly is

I mean, Drake is pretty inoffensive, no?

every vote counts!!

he's offensive in his constant pathetic attempts to not offend anybody, apologize to anyone he might have offended, and desperately pander to any kind of rap fan that isn't already down with his innovative underwater crybaby sound

damn cutty just damn

i know the money should be going to LEN Bonus Boys or whatever crap, but stfu

― Youth Ya Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, November 9, 2011 7:24 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this would be an awesome group to exist fuiud

& as someone who has paid for music this year, al otm, if hes going to buy one cd making it drake is smh

if someone wants to send me a 320 copy of the drake album i pledge not to buy it

this being 1998 i'm sure it will be very difficult to find online once it actually comes out

underwater crybaby rap is pretty perfect

INTRODUCING

FROM THE MAN WHO BROUGHT YOU THE GROCERY BAG

innovative underwater crybaby sound

ok if cutty likes it and it sounds like this then i guess i will d/l this shit

Lamp liking this would be too perfect

but only if you decide it is cloud rap

btw :-/ https://twitter.com/#!/AlanTheChemist/status/134309168164253696

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RT'd by someone w/ this avatar obv

if its even like ok i will now go buy a copy just to annoy u

still more objectionable coming from j0rdan

jordan go buy the dj quik album you fool. don't worry drake will leak in 320, even in flac.

if j0rdan would figure out filezilla & ftp access hed have the stupid thing already

not that id know anything about that

yeah i do need to figure out filezilla

anyway i'm only half serious about buying drake for the quality, altho that's part of it -- but i do want to make a "casting my vote" purchase, and i still like having physical copies of albums that i really, really like, esp pop albums esp ones that may have cool packaging & stuff

yeah if you don't cast your vote the record industry might get the idea that you want to hear something other than young money someday

LOL the mythical P4k FTP.

I kind of want this on vinyl. I wonder if its even coming out on vinyl.

yeah if you don't cast your vote the record industry might get the idea that you want to hear something other than young money someday

― some dude, Wednesday, November 9, 2011 9:14 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

well it doesn't matter OBVIOUSLY, it's one copy of one album. but i like buying into big first week numbers of albums that i care about. i went out and bought 'love king' even tho i didn't love it. i bought 'tha carter III' even tho i already had it and knew it wasn't amazing. kanye vs 50 is the second most important election of my life since i've been able to vote.

why didnt you buy 'carter iv'?

"i've bought several middling albums in the past, and i'd like to continue to do so"

because i cared about lil wayne in 2008

carter iv only had 2 drake songs on it (xpost)

j0rd did you buy LTTP

YES

i think that was the last album i bought

to counterbalance drake buying itt i just went and bought 3.5 mil copies of Lost Boyz "Legal drug money", nothing to see here, crisis averted

i'll buy the triple c's album

I bought LTTP too because that was a nicely produced album

I'm really hearing the great production on this album though

I'm not. lol

u crazy dawg

I put on LTTP the other day and it still sounded as fresh as it did almost a year ago.

last new CD i can remember buying was electrik red lol

elektrik red... where are they now

i own that, too -- no fucking idea how i found a physical copy of that in mid-missouri

i bought all 35 extant copies of dark warlocks 'A9A' on my credit card just now, thanks ilx

i feel like d/ling this album cuz i can use cooledit to replace Drake's voice with percussive goat bleating

kind of disappointed that xhuxk hasn't shown up yet to ask if the title track is a big star cover

other than the song with ross none of the productions are really jump-out-at-you good, as a whole they make for an inviting and listenable atmosphere but comparing it to LTTP is ludicrous

xp lol

hahahahahaha shipley

other than the song with ross none of the productions are really jump-out-at-you good, as a whole they make for an inviting and listenable atmosphere but comparing it to LTTP is ludicrous

― MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Wednesday, November 9, 2011 9:30 PM (4 seconds ago)

like in terms of both actual quality and their function as part of the record

I think I like the interludes better than the actual tracks

very futuresexylivepounds

think I'm gonna agree with k3v here the tracks fit together very well into an interlocking grid of blah

I hope ugk charged drake a lot for that sample

like maybe 5 million i dunno

"i've bought several middling albums in the past, and i'd like to continue to do so"

― MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Wednesday, November 9, 2011 8:21 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol

i bought graduation, but that was more about humiliating 50 than boosting kanye. i hope the next drake (or kanye) album is in a sales war with something better i can buy instead.

fully support some dude buying the new biebz album

i'm buying the scott weiland christmas album to show my disapproval for the bieber christmas album

drake vs New Radicals reunion album

can someone please give me an alternative transcription of "fell in love with the pen/started fucking the ink"

it might be a double entendre (pen = penitentiary, ink = inc., but i'm not necessarily sure what he'd be saying)

http://pigroll.com/img/fuck_your_ink.jpg

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If you look at the cover quickly, that parrot looks like drake is holding a gold plated turkey drumstick

nah, don't see it

lol i do

The placement and shape of the golden owl makes it look like he's holding a chicken drumstick.

― raunch you raw (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, September 24, 2011 8:42 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^ what I thought it was before I zoomed in

― if, Saturday, September 24, 2011 9:22 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the bird statuette looks like a golden chicken drumstick at first glance imo

― flopper? i hardly know'er (flopson), Sunday, September 25, 2011 2:05 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

drake looks like he is holding a gold-plated turkey leg, about to eat it

― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, September 26, 2011 2:34 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

― raunch you raw (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, September 26, 2011 11:48 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

The only thing that would make that Drake cover better would be if he actually was holding a golden turkey leg (and yes, I'm fifthing or sixthing that that's what it looked like to me at first)

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, September 26, 2011 11:51 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark

and there we go

is drake holding his dick in that picture, it looks like a gold plated weiner

jk it looks like a drumstick

'good one'

Take Care (of my Gold Penis)

'good one'

― and a butt (Lamp), Wednesday, November 9, 2011 10:13 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

something never said about a song in a chillwave thread for 100

"jordan go buy the dj quik album you fool. don't worry drake will leak in 320, even in flac."

OTFM

Really embarrassed that ILX has devolved into sub-4chan "YOU BUY MUSIC ROFLWTFBBQ" arguments

Jordan, you have a job iirc, buy the albums you like and don't listen to the Internet

i'm pretty sure you have been central in a discussion on ilx about my music buying habits before

maybe not -- in any event OTM

all eyes rolled at j0rdan buying a drake cd should now be directed at j0rdan liking a drake cd

now that whineys here i wanna non-display name related discussion of the merits and shortcomings of cloud rap

I'm in between bands at a Torche
/Part Chimp double bill and the last thing I wanna think about is cloud rap

whiney are you writing about this for SPIN? plz say yes

I just asked

i love the whinester taking on big albums

what album is better this one or quik's?

that's a good question - they're very different rap albums in many ways

Uh...

Resisting fanboy posting.

i'm just baiting these two goofs & jordan smartly dodged it

tbf whiney's mag only gave quik 7/10

has whiney been to drake's listening party?

I'm stuck imagining a parallel universe where Drake vocoder-mumbles Quik one-liners while Quik apologises for everything all the time but in his perky voice.

That would be the best album ever, eh Tim?

It's not exactly number one on my dream collabos list

Hahahaa nooo doubt.

speaking of LTTP i totally get now why some people's favorite track on that is "shades".....

I think mine's still "Looking for Love"

jt's drake piss-take on "shades" renders drake himself entirely redundant

listening now, LTTP still blows me the fuck away

LTTP is great besides fucking Diddy.

Diddy is frequently the best part!

SMOKE WEED LISTEN TO SADE

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markers otm

yeah ren ur doin it rong

i hope everyone who thinks i'm an idiot for loving this album at least recognizes what the RONGest post itt is

there's no way to separate LTTP from diddy, anyway. it would be like saying that a clint eastwood directed movie also starring clint eastwood was great, except for clint eastwood's acting. well, he also directed the movie, so it's a pretty tough distinction to make.

ren should have to go get us all some cheesecake just for saying that

otm I like strawberry marble cheesecake

j0rd iyo what's the best produced track on this

chocolate lime cheesecake for me please

oh man there is a market every sunday 2 minutes from my house and the cheesecake stall there a) sells some of the most delicious cheesecake i have ever eaten b) is manned by such a hott boy, who, i assume, also bakes the cheesecakes

well i'm gonna throw out the just blaze track bcuz while it's incredibly dope it's kind of in it's own category. like i'd rather talk about that beat in comparison to shit off the blueprint or something than other beats on this album.

otherwise my favorite two beats are the opening track, "doing it wrong" or "look what you've done"

er, three beats

diddy making a cornball song like "coming home" genuinely emotionally affecting might be one of his greatest accomplishments as a performer

otm

redeeming alex da kid takes some sort of unknowable amount of vision

there's no way to separate LTTP from diddy, anyway. it would be like saying that a clint eastwood directed movie also starring clint eastwood was great, except for clint eastwood's acting. well, he also directed the movie, so it's a pretty tough distinction to make.

― J0rdan S., Thursday, November 10, 2011 7:01 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark

Actually this would be kinda OTM for "Gran Torino"?

nah, the kid actors were the worst part of 'gran torino'

fair point.

Ok, I'll get y'all some cheesecake.

I'm sorry, though, I like LTTP a lot, but Diddy is not and will never be "genuinely emotionally affecting" as a performer, to me. He's way too stiff and unnatural.

― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:08 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark

lex's post about the self-absorption of the lyrics/total lack detail about other people is probably the best criticism that will be written about this album & besides the (admittedly improved but still often) awful rapping is it's greatest fault. it's a really repulsive quality, like people who interrupt you when you're talking to them & clearly weren't even listening to what you were saying and then just talk about themselves endlessly. wouldn't be such a problem if the whole thing weren't seemingly geared towards inspiring sympathy? idk, i guess this is a kanye thing. i find drake at his best while either singing or when he's most blasé & detached; i think a big reason he's improved as a rapper is he's ditched (for the most part) attempts at humour or overly emotional delivery. i kind of like his flatter, colder, more angular style; his attempts at dynamic or like, increasing intensity throughout a verse, are usually pretty bad, but there aren't too many of them. the production is obviously the highlight & is best at it's most moody submarine music/noodly sad synths, but it's all really really good. pretty great album on the whole

fav songs are

over my dead body
we'll be fine
good ones go (interlude)
the real her

i know this has been discussed a lot lately on rap threads but: is rick ross the best rapper in the world right now? can't think of anyone who's had as many standout verses or whose features/album i look forward to more atm

Also, is Andre's verse kind of awkward here? Sounds like it would be better read than rapped...

when rawse DIDN'T start rapping in the reema major video i was so relieved

rawse = space filler to me tbh

it's a good qn though but surely nicki/yela/tip, anyway. can see meek mill getting there in time.

your take on ross is so 2+ years ago lex gwtp

i wouldnt go that far but there is an emptiness to Ross that keeps him from ever being 'best rapper' imo