Thraed of Skrillex

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AyJyoiH5-k

i'm sure he must have been discussed in some threads before but he seems like a big deal so he gets his own thread

http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/12380878241/1/tumblr_lu6rp9Tfog1qicsus

for reference:

Deadmau5 - Someone explain this guy's huge popularity (general C/D, RFI thread i guess)

frat rap

terrible

did y'all see that ridiculous NYT article on Kaskade yesterday? so stupid.

wow "Cinema" is really bad

the kids were lined up for this dude outside the Warfield a little while ago

i have exactly 2 friends who like skrillex. one is 22 and shes a mainstreamer club kid (dont ask)

the other is a guy i went to h.s. with and he's my age. i dont know what his excuse is lol. 'cinema' is his fav track

i really like the first minute or so of 'cinema', fun-ass cheesy shit

actually the point it turns to shit is exactly 1:20

i realize this is what makes me old

it's a pretty brilliant equation, super cheesy pop hooks + exxxtreeeme brostep breakdowns, at least if you like getting paid in 2k11.

Also for reference: is it brostep?

Imagining myself playing Aphex to some young cousins who are Skrillex fans and they're all rolling their eyes "this is so tame"

Still my favourite Skrillex:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cXDgFwE13g

I've decided that a lot of the appeal of this music is that it's like the "Come To Daddy" you can nod your head to.

otm!

“I’ve been deep into electronic music my entire life. The first records I ever owned were ‘Fat of Land’ by the Prodigy and ‘Come To Daddy’ by Aphex Twin,” raves Sonny Moore, better known as emerging electronic visionary SKRILLEX.

Haha what a shock.

lol yeah that basically says it all

anyway im going to see a 17+ skrillex show tonight at the congress, a 4000 capacity venue. shit is gonna be 3p1c

indie rock is embarrassing itself hating this guy

It doesn't sound any worse (or better) to me than lots of electronic music and dance pop stuff that gets praised on ILM (e.g., that incredibly awful Nayer/Pitbull song). Possible advantage of never really getting electronic dance music: being unphased by new developments (perversions, corruptions, whatever).

well, i dont like dubstep period, so my hate is p consistent. i probably like this more than acclaimed dubstep

both songs here are decent for like a minute, but the spazzy stuff is just boring.

there was definitely a lot of lesser industrial/ebm similar to this.

dubstep has yet to appeal to me

xp

this all seems like lame variations on silly industrial-goth shit that I found ridiculous back in the 80s

Thraed of Skrillex sounds like a Iain M Banks novel

see that stuff is actually superfresh to me now xp

i spent a lot of time going out & occasionally DJing etc. for the bulk of my 20s, in a variety of scenes, and so I know lots of the 'classic dj tracks' -- it became kind of boring at a certain pt because you start to critique the DJs & no longer get lost in that "i have no idea what any of these songs are' mindset ... i've been going occasionally to this goth club called 'neo' in chi that is superfun because i don't know, like, any of the tracks -- its all 80s industrial type ish. and they play, like, nine inch nails at the end of the night. its not so much that i love the music -- i'm not out buying this stuff or shazam-ing it -- i just like that there's a dance scene i haven't bled for knowledge, and i'm kind of enjoying keeping it that way

anyway, its def a retro scene at some level because they arent putting on any dubstep tracks.

goth club called 'neo'

roflz

i took j0rdan there when he first got here haha.

There's something potentially quite potent about the Brostep genre but i'm not convinced that Skrillex has anything like the talent or the vision to get the best out of it. He feels like the Korn to a Slipknot yet to come.

goth scene runs pretty deep in the Bay Area and I have had plenty of friends into it over the years. shit, once I lived with a woman who insisted she was conceived in a coffin... but it's just so silly. I'm sure DJP has a different perspective on it lol

xp

Identify with deej's post the above.

I still have vivid memories of watching 'The Living End' at 17 and really enjoying all the pop-industrial used in the background (Nitzer Ebb or something I guess) and having no idea what it was. I've always wanted to stumble on a club playing stuff like that and get lost in it.

He feels like the Korn to a Slipknot yet to come.

lol

but yeah I see this pretty clear line from like Wax Trax >>> NIN >>> Aphex Twin >>> dupstep (I guess?) >>> this stuff and it's not really a lineage that interests me.

I guess I still like some Ministry records. That 1000 Homo DJs EP is good.

lol yeah I played the shit out of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c9U5GHJZFE

seems like these songs have a set-up and a punchline which most old industrial didn't have. some of it was tongue in cheek, but it was like that straight through.

never really did the aphex twin or ministry thing or w/e so I've come to the conclusion that I don't really mind brostep - it's no more better or worse than say PATD! which is actually pretty good.

bring on the scary sprites!

i'm not convinced that Skrillex has anything like the talent or the vision to get the best out of it. He feels like the Korn to a Slipknot yet to come.

Skrillex is producing the new Korn album. It's also a dubstep album (really)

this stuff also isn't just aphex twin, it's also video game midis

i have a (semi-guilty) love for spazzy, headbanging brostep breakdowns. most of the electronic music that i love is the opposite of this, and i don't seek it out, but it's hilarious and effective. also it becomes amazing if les twins are involved (though i can't see them dancing to a skrillex track; their taste in beats is impeccable, really):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G2JV_1RQoE

xp

this all seems like lame variations on silly industrial-goth shit that I found ridiculous back in the 80s

lol this actually makes me think I might like this

KORN have made a DUBSTEP album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouCnSf2ffzY

you can actually hear a pretty direct connection btween the weird rhythmic approach of dubstep & stuff like this (this is a track i heard last time at neo -- contra what i just said, i did actually shazam this one)

dayo otm

Skrillex-brand brostep = video game music + pop-punk melodies + nu-metal breakdowns + "wobbles" + surface familiarity with drill-n-bass era aphex & fat of the land + some superficial elements of drum + bass

ha deej, an old roommate of mine has a parody goth-industrial band that plays neo (he lives in chi).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK8YSsjIaDs

goth club called 'neo'

roflz

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i took j0rdan there when he first got here haha.

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yes, me and deej went dancing at this club in my first night in the chi. the cool thing is that everyone there is super into dancing since it's not a "cool" place to be in the first place.

man every skrillex song is really cool until the skronky "dubstep"-y parts

Due to the style of their music lacking a definite genre, they coined the term 'Industrial Jungle Pussy Punk' to describe their music, but later, they denounced the term

right

Between this and that Hipster House thread, I want to crawl further into a hole with a bunch of snooty Jazz records, and forget I ever had interest in anything youth oriented.

the next Skrillex: http://www.celldweller.com/2011/

This dude is seriously next in line.

http://youtu.be/6f7N9gYXfZo

whoops:

http://www.youtube.com/celldweller#p/a/u/2/6f7N9gYXfZo

Just got out of skrillix so incred

one upthread sounds like girl unit

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/312620_581021671183_43201281_32126784_1224318942_n.jpg
welcome skrillex

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/392046_581021721083_43201281_32126785_1505365520_n.jpg
he had a crazy light show

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/377577_581021890743_43201281_32126791_1680947541_n.jpg

there were hell of high school kids there

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/392884_581021765993_43201281_32126787_1795426994_n.jpg

whatever he was wearing made the image of a robot/skeleton/alien creature behind him replicate his movements it was dope

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/384955_581021751023_43201281_32126786_586144237_n.jpg

YAAAA

i would totally pay $25 to see him again tomorrow if it wasnt sold out & if my ears werent ringing like cray

2 sold out shows at a 4000 capacity venue, $25/ticket

guys this shit was so FUN. it also made me feel hella old / wish id dropped a bean before going

I don't get where any and all mention of dubstep comes in. To me this sounds entirely like ca. 2006 blog house, albeit with hints of Ruskoesque midtone wobble. I mean, is it that you can't latch on to "electro" as a label anymore because it longer has cache, so they just semi-arbitrarily chose some "relevant" category it kinda might be able to fit into?

Is Distance the Deftones of dubstep? Clue me in, gang!

Went to the Korn show at Roseland last week (kinda had to, I work for their label); the DJs weren't great. The first act was some horrorcore rap trio w/vaguely dubstep-ish beats, just kinda reminded me of shit on WordSound Records circa last millennium. But some of the later stuff was OK, especially if you just leaned against the back wall and let it vibrate your chest cavity like a massage chair. I will say that I am liking the new Korn album more than I have ever liked any of their previous work.

The drug phrase "to drop a bean" immediately brings to mind the masturbation phrase "to flick a bean".

cool story bro

btw all the non-dubstep dropped was rap music -- opening acts (both of which were interestingly enough african american artists -- the group Two Fresh who did like a trip-hop thing & the straight up dubstep 12th Planet, who got tons of crowd love) each dropped Waka Flocka songs into their sets ('grove st party' and 'hard in the paint' respectively). this was pretty much the only non-dubstep music that didnt get, like, a 'dubstep remix'

the other thing that struck me as forehead smacking obvious about the crossover success of dubstep is that it lets people who've grown up dancing to hip-hop dance exactly the same way -- grinding on each other front-to-ass, at basically the same tempo as hip-hop

skrillex himself dropped 'hypnotize' & let it play for at least a full verse, possibly two (cant recall) and fatman scoop's "be faithful". also "welcome to jamrock". but he didnt overdo that stuff which was good. and he did incorporate a lot of different rhythmic templates -- reggae, house, dubstep, etc. at one pt even did a remix of kris kross' 'jump' where it was basically a perfect imitation of the rhythm, but using those cold metallic textures he uses so everything sounded like pistons covering 'jump.' the only way i recognized the rhythm was because he kept one snatch of the vocal sample in there from the original

also the cheesy singalong parts are basically the same thing as when you're at a corny sports bar and someone drops 'living on a prayer'

at basically the same tempo as hip-hop

nb this might not actually be true, iirc most dubstep is around 70bpm (or 140 bpm played at halftime) which is actually a bit slower than most hip-hop ? although rap has a pretty wide variance & i'm not even sure how fast most current stuff is

i realize someone's probably already said as much re: hip-hop tempos but i think seeing this show connected it more closely to the 'dancing' part for me

A lot of southern rap from the past few years is in the 70-ish range. "Hard in da Paint" is 71 bpm, for instance.

deej, are you still saying "cool story, bro"? That shit's on shirts at the mall.

this ain't no middle of the mall shit

I'm still unable to process the popularity of the Skrcjzhgx remix of Cinema. The Benny Benassi version is really good.

this ain't no middle of the mall shit

― tpp, Monday, November 14, 2011 8:58 AM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark

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Hahaha

Also great ian m. Banks joke upthread

i still don't understand the appeal of this dude. it sounds like vomit.

did deej misspell "thread" on purpose

yeah i'm surprised this isn't a "defend the indefensible" thread

i TOTALLY understand the appeal of this guy, but that's exactly why i have to smh at him fucking up what could be p decent music

j0rdan otm

thraedophile

Also he looks like a crazy homeless person. But not in a cool way. In a 'he'll stalk yr younger sister and try to rape her' way.

he looks like a Korn member's son

I think the difference between Skillrex and Come To Daddy is that Come To Daddy is a) a joke, b) a one-off, c) has a sense of rhythm. Heard my first Skillrex tune the other day and was kind of amazed how plodding it was, it was kinda "hey, remember rhythm? It used to be this thing..."

lol @ dude's sample sources

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JrkJJam-qI

yuh like i said crut

I think the difference between Skillrex and Come To Daddy is that Come To Daddy is a) a joke, b) a one-off, c) has a sense of rhythm. Heard my first Skillrex tune the other day and was kind of amazed how plodding it was, it was kinda "hey, remember rhythm? It used to be this thing..."

― Matt DC, Monday, 14 November 2011 15:47 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

Um... what?

lol yeah Come To Daddy intentionally throws rhythmic curveballs all over the place whereas Skrillex sticks pretty strictly to rhythmic conventions

I kind of unintentionally became Cap'n Save-A-Bro on this thread: is it brostep?

I don't understand how Aphex is more "rhythmic" or "jokey" compared to Skrillex. Obviously Aphex is a hero, has been since I first heard CTD at 16 y/o, but y'know, his music still adheres to 4/4 structures, recycling drum'n'bass loops, throwing in comedy samples and fucking with metal tropes.

It's because Aphex has a finely-tuned sense of rhythm that he's able to get away with throwing rhythmic curveballs all over the place - cf the useless toss thrown out around that time by less competent drill and bass producers.

The Skillrex I've heard just adheres to this 4/4 plod with zero momentum in the beats themselves. Dude has no sense of groove, basically.

I'm obviously not holding Come To Daddy up as any kind of paragon of groove or whatever just having a meanspirited pop at Skillrex here.

the point is, if Scooter can do a good imitation of what you do, you probably will not stick around for long

He's an ex-emo brostep producer - it's not really meant to be "groovy" (although I'm at pains to think of many groovy Aphex tracks either). If anything - and yeah I'm trying to contextualise rather than defend Skrillex here - he's got an incredible grasp of melodic arrangement, not to mention considerable production chops. Not sure what software/hardware he's using but just trying to get a powerful big-room multi-tiered sound like that without muddying up the mix is no mean feat. I don't really get what makes Skrillex any worse a producer than say Rustie who seems to garner a huge amount of props in credible circle. As I said in the OG brostep thread, part of me suspects that it's Skrillex's teenage appeal that marks him out in more "mature/mid-brow" music circles, when really the appeal is that it's meant to be nu-metal/rock pumped up to 11 with all the angsty 'tude taken out and an emphasis on fun times.

sorry that was xxposts

many of Aphex Twin's more straight-up techno tracks are very groovy.

this guy's shit has always just sounded like slowed-down dnb of the dj fresh school*, big riffs that are distorted and gnarled but still pretty bouncy, which has always been popular with a subset of american kids, but i guess the tempo and the fact that there's so much synth-y stuff on the radio already is what's helped him really cross over.

*except, yeah, somehow even less rhythmically interesting.

also cosign everyone who's said they get the appeal, want to like it, but ehhhhhh.

i'm depressed the Living End got brought up for a skrillah thread

come to daddy is a terrible record people wanting to rearrange their desk and hide it in a desk drawer because they didn't like that skrillrex shone a light on it and said 'I made one of those too'

he's got an incredible grasp of melodic arrangement

lol wut

I don't really get what makes Skrillex any worse a producer than say Rustie who seems to garner a huge amount of props in credible circle. As I said in the OG brostep thread, part of me suspects that it's Skrillex's teenage appeal that marks him out in more "mature/mid-brow" music circles, when really the appeal is that it's meant to be nu-metal/rock pumped up to 11 with all the angsty 'tude taken out and an emphasis on fun times.

i think rustie's a bit overblown myself but he's still got a handle on syncopation in beats vs skrillex's beat-you-over-the-head four on the floor WITH WHOMP style. people hating just because "the kids are into it" is always an option but just not the case in here (other than that so many of the kids love him he's constantly brough up such that we can bring up the valid reasons he's so terrible).

this shit is pretty awful

yeah I don't feel like Aphex has dated really well so I shudder to think about what this'll sound like in 2020. hell at least Squarepusher went all out trying to antagonize his audience, this shit is pop as hell

i don't really know anything about skrillex, but has this been mentioned yet?
“I had 40 musicians in a Capitol studio on a job that took me two weeks, 24/7, from before sunrise to well into the night. I worked very hard on what I hoped would be my best work. I did it for this guy by the name of Skrillex, who I’ve never heard of.”
-Van Dyke Parks, last month

o_O

it's next year's Loutallica, I'm tellin' ya.

except Lou Reed and Metallica were both fucking legends at points in their careers

kind of hearing Pendulum in this stuff

deej, are you still saying "cool story, bro"? That shit's on shirts at the mall.

― kashi west: late vegetarian (rustic italian flatbread), Monday, November 14, 2011 8:55 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

actually, it was on the shirt of a kid from the concert

also cosign everyone who's said they get the appeal, want to like it, but ehhhhhh.

― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Monday, November 14, 2011 1:44 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the live show experience was v. impressive & shouldn't be discounted. he has a good sense for building up tension and shifting moods at the right time / good sense of controlling the crowd.

i also think what people are saying about the rhythm on his tracks as cutting him a lot less credit than he deserves. as a live performer, his stuff does a lot of shifting between different rhythmic styles, which isn't typically my thing but IMO he does a much better job of it than diplo (having seen both of them DJ) (I recognize a lot of us dont like diplo either but i'm trying to compare djs of vaguely similar success levels) & the way he's stuck to consistent textures means that he can switch up rhythmic templates pretty easily w/out it seeming all that disorienting. he'll switch from a straight four on the floor, to a reggae feel, to a dubstep lurching feel, and manages to keep it all feel rather than like the all-over-the-place frankendance of the mid 00s, like all part of one movement / consistent style

i dont like the lurching rhythmic parts still, but i dont like that in 'respected' dubstep either so

blah i should have edited that

i think rustie's a bit overblown myself but he's still got a handle on syncopation in beats vs skrillex's beat-you-over-the-head four on the floor WITH WHOMP style. people hating just because "the kids are into it" is always an option but just not the case in here (other than that so many of the kids love him he's constantly brough up such that we can bring up the valid reasons he's so terrible).

― fauxmarc, Monday, November 14, 2011 2:20 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

fwiw this argument could go on down thru the ages w/ pedantic line-drawing, i'm sure lots of chicago house purists found problems w/ how the uk artists chose to interpret rave music -- im not saying your wrong, i didnt run out & buy a skrillex cd after seeing him live (although I would have paid to see him live again the next night) but its not like you can sidestep this stuff

i mentioned it in one of the other threads but i think the key to understanding skrillex, at least for me, was finding out that he was in a mallcore screamo band before going solo as skrillex. once i viewed his music through the lens of teenage angst rock of the early 2000s, it finally made sense to me. the song 'scary monsters and nice sprites makes it most apparent imo': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSeNSzJ2-Jw

the singing style at the beginning of the song and again at the final bridge are ripped straight out of the screamo playbook. listen to the drum beat syncopation throughout the song (and especially during the wobble breakdowns): those aren't twostep beats or anything out of the electronic music styles (save for maybe some dnb), those are mall metal breakdown beats! just imagine those beats being played with a double-bass drum and the wobble bass being a chuggachugga guitar riff and you have a straight up screamo breakdown.

so i can totally understand why teenagers love this shit because it's teen rock n' roll, and seems like a logical progression from the screamo/warped tour scene. i also think he can be considered in the same ilk as those crabcore bands that we were lolling at a few years ago except maybe a bit more, dare i say, 'sophisticated'

that being said, i totally dig brostep in the same way i like paramore and can get nostalgic hearing bad screamo: it reminds me of some of the terrible music i listened to as a teen and having fun and going to shows etc

the environment of the shows is way, way more rave-y than screamo-y, though. there are tons of E'd out bros, glowsticks/bodypaint, etc

yea, im kinda pissed i didn't hear about the two shows in chicago this weekend until they were sold out, i totally wouldve gone

but the ravey environment makes sense to me, at least, cuz at the same time i was listening to these questionable rock bands, i was listening to aphex twin and watching movies like Groove and Go and wishing i could go to a rave

i think rustie's a bit overblown myself but he's still got a handle on syncopation in beats vs skrillex's beat-you-over-the-head four on the floor WITH WHOMP style. people hating just because "the kids are into it" is always an option but just not the case in here (other than that so many of the kids love him he's constantly brough up such that we can bring up the valid reasons he's so terrible).

― fauxmarc, Monday, November 14, 2011 2:20 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

fwiw this argument could go on down thru the ages w/ pedantic line-drawing, i'm sure lots of chicago house purists found problems w/ how the uk artists chose to interpret rave music -- im not saying your wrong, i didnt run out & buy a skrillex cd after seeing him live (although I would have paid to see him live again the next night) but its not like you can sidestep this stuff

― Creedance House Mafia (D-40), Monday, November 14, 2011 3:32 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

addendum: i totally do the same thing w/ Drake in the hip-hop threads. middle class navel gazing is the sound of now for hip-hop & i dont enjoy it & i've come up w/ perfectly reasonable reasons why, but at some level, i think we just have to admit the ground has shifted

When I listen to the Scary Monsters EP what I hear is Pendulum/Noisia dnb mixed with post Justice bloghouse with a tiny little bit of Venetian Snares style hyperactive programming chops. It appeals to the same part of me that liked Rage Against The Machine and At The Drive In when I was 16-19. There's probably also a distant relationship with Dj Distance's Korn-step in 2007-2010.

I was never really into screamo/mall punk, I'm guessing that I was too old by the time it rolled around. So what I'm saying is basically, entire thread OTM so far.

There is one other element in there, a healthy serving of Kaskade style progressive house.

I don't think Skrillex would have ever gotten the attention he has without the ability to appeal to very mainstream dance tastes at the beginning of his career, his early remixes aren't particularly dubstep sounding if I remember correctly. For everyone hating on this, just think of what a thoroughly bizarre mix of musical styles this is. This music couldn't have existed even 5 years ago, much less have received a positive welcome from the kids.

Shouldn't forward thinking music be considered completely crass and tasteless by 20-30 somethings?

fwiw this argument could go on down thru the ages w/ pedantic line-drawing, i'm sure lots of chicago house purists found problems w/ how the uk artists chose to interpret rave music -- im not saying your wrong, i didnt run out & buy a skrillex cd after seeing him live (although I would have paid to see him live again the next night) but its not like you can sidestep this stuff

― Creedance House Mafia (D-40), Monday, November 14, 2011 3:32 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

addendum: i totally do the same thing w/ Drake in the hip-hop threads. middle class navel gazing is the sound of now for hip-hop & i dont enjoy it & i've come up w/ perfectly reasonable reasons why, but at some level, i think we just have to admit the ground has shifted

― Creedance House Mafia (D-40), lunes 14 de noviembre de 2011 20:06

sounds like a suggestion to mostly just view skrillex in a live rave context instead of any critical beat-oriented nerding, which i'm fine with as i obvi don't think he can stand up to the latter. but if the ground has shifted, it's shifted from what - the tiesto/keoki/etc type rave scenes of back when? i mean those sucked too - if that was the starting point the ground may have shifted but still within a continuum of suckage.

re: the screamo angle - yeah it gets brought up frequently and i still don't buy it as an excuse of context needed to "get" skrillex, as mentioned his band was deep in the mallcore end of the pool, he was derivative to begin with - so he took his bad style and applied it elsewhere. it's still ehhhhhh.

Tell you what, to compare this to another DJ who does vocal dubstep tracks and is considered to be an impressive live act: I like this way more than James Blake.

The day that dubstep appeals solely to IDM nerds and indie people is the day its dead entirely. And I say that as someone who listened to a lot of IDM (obviously).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91bqgMkxmv0

Not arguing that James Blake doesn't have a really rowdy live act, just can't stand the sound of his voice.

You aint the only one that wish he'd stfu more often.

This music couldn't have existed even 5 years ago, much less have received a positive welcome from the kids.

Shouldn't forward thinking music be considered completely crass and tasteless by 20-30 somethings?

This is OTM. Yeah, it could have existed a few years ago but not really had the appeal. As such, Skrillex is a sort of apex point where all these disparate styles (all loved particularly by teenagers) seem to converge to make this ultimate teenage music.

Does Skrillex have a defining tune? Most big dance guys build their rep on a signature anthem but though I've read about him as a live/DJing phenomenon I've not come across an equivalent to Da Funk or Chemical Beats. Not saying he doesn't have one - purely my ignorance.

Signature anthem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSeNSzJ2-Jw&feature=player_embedded

^^^ thats his big one. the track that started this thread was one he played at the party's peak. 'i am skrillex' is big as well

I wonder if that cupstacker knows about the sample.

in the original post? its an official remix. imo the original is kind of weak tbh

the original is superior to the remix in every way i know.

Where did I read that quote about how the basslines sounded like "an angry robot having sex with a motorcycle"?

I dunno, but I wouldn't trust anyone who said that they didn't want to hear music that sounds like that.

Cheers. That one's more obviously dubstep than I expected. If someone told me it was a more critically respected UK producer I wouldn't be surprised. Cinema is more like the corny, cross-genre sound I imagined.

Oh, that'll be because it's a remix of Benny Benassi.

The funny thing for me about all of this is when I talked to a local DJ who plays some really intense grinding tracks and mixes it with a bunch of pop, he hates Skrillex so much.

Not even good enough for a brostep DJ.

Skrillex must be the lowest common denominator in a whole bunch of things. There's that Japanese ex-metal guy too, Borgore (or Boregore?), and you can tell he's heavily influenced by death metal. He has an EP/mini album called "Borgore Ruined Dubstep".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpejnx3ZBvE

http://www.deejay.de/images/xl/7/9/45579.jpg

Shouldn't forward thinking music be considered completely crass and tasteless by 20-30 somethings?

― pattern loader, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 01:23 (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

NO. JUST NO.

20-30 somethings have been traditionally cool with forward thinking music for the past 60 years if its dope. Only when it is shit and teenager-y like Skrillex or hair metal idk have 20-30 somethings found it to be crass and tasteless. (Also, this isn't even innovative music - we are fucking discussing afx twin more in this thread than we are the rapey looking hipster.)

i totally didn't get that skrillex was being referred to as "forward-thinking"

xpost When punk came along the music press was inundated with letters from jaded hard rock fans moaning about a lack of Deep Purple and Quo. When grunge kicked off, all I remember hearing from the older crowd on TV/radio was how "it just sounds like a guy whimpering in a corner until someone whacks him round the head with a frying pan for the chorus". And I'm sure rave music pissed off a fair few 20-30 somethings ("it's not even proper music - just bosh bosh bosh and kid's TV samples"

X-post : Well, I did make a list of the people he was ripping off.

Yeah, jazz hipster's were not down with early rock and roll either.

those are completely fair assessments of grunge & rave music

My point, if I have one, is that if you compress layers upon layers of trash culture one onto the other sometimes what you get isn't just pure shit.

Sometimes you get White Zombie or Pitchshifter though. Not really sure where this all going.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0E0ynyIUsg

Shouldn't forward thinking music be considered completely crass and tasteless by 20-30 somethings?

I remember a variant on this discussion at Mixmag in the late 90s re: happy hardcore, like, "This sounds fucking horrible and crass but I guess people thought that about rave 10 years ago so maybe this is actually great because the kids love it?" But no, it really was just horrible and crass. Sometimes the stuff that certain kids like and older critics don't isn't secretly avant-garde and radical after all. Not saying that Skrillex is as bad as happy hardcore but there's no blanket rule here and "I don't get it so I guess it must be great on some level" critical cringe isn't always helpful.

theres a middle ground too tho werent zep and black sabbath shitted on by critics at the time

Loved More Human Than Human when I was about 15, but nothing else Rob Zombie's ever done.

Pitchshifter, Senser and all those acts who tried to mix hard rock/metal and electronica failed terribly as they never managed to achieve the best of either element. Skrillex is interesting because it's the first purely electronic dance music (discounting industrial/EBM) that appeals directly to a traditionally rock-oriented market, and in doing so has managed that task considerably well.

"More Human Than Human" is on my short-list of entrance music should I ever need any (see also Deneice Williams' "Let's Hear It For The Boy").

im gonna say that his live show was a whole lot better than plenty of live shows ive been to by more 'respected' bands & that ppl def undersell a great live artist at their own peril esp in the post paying-for-cds world

I heard enough bizarre distorted noise when I was deejaying lowest common denominator electrohouse and dubstep to be pretty well immune to the affect, but the thing that I've found interesting about Skrillex is that he managed to shoehorn all that side chain compression/bitcrushed FM synth/ video game noise into fairly well written songs. I'm curious if he's going to try to be a songwriter or a musician who makes dance tracks, because its hard to do both. Particularly when you're the figurehead of the "new rave scene" in America.

Not looking forward to "proper songs" tbh. Pendulum were harmless enough until they added that horrible emo-lite singer to the mix. Skrillex is just left of mallcore for me not to mind his schtick too much.

it's the first purely electronic dance music (discounting industrial/EBM) that appeals directly to a traditionally rock-oriented market

You're joking, right?

Wouldn't that be Gary Numan? Or something roughly around the same time period?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBGNlTPgQII

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0WNbm1jz6A

gary numan doesn't really strike me as dance music tbh

True enough.

The Prodigy would be the first really big crossover of an electronic act into rock?

you're forgetting about the UK, dude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyoDbX1EkPQ

Well if we're talking about the difference between American and European markets, you just add something like 15 years onto the timeline for America.

Kraftwerk, Numan and New Order all started as rock bands and slowly went electronic, I was trying to think of someone who took the opposite route.

Moby.

Fatboy Slim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD8dZGffkzQ

Prodigy/Chems/Fatboy Slim circa 1997 the obvious precedent - John the Baptists to Skrillex's Jesus if you will. Though they would obviously be horrified by that.

He's a firestarter, twisted firestarter.

Kraftwerk, Numan and New Order all started as rock bands and slowly went electronic, I was trying to think of someone who took the opposite route.

― pattern loader, Tuesday, November 15, 2011 5:19 AM Bookmark

Skrillex was in a rock band tho.

Primal Scream kind of go back and forth

From First To Last, the Housemartins of their time

Xpost: So Skrillex would be rock->dubstep/proghouse->rock influenced crossover.

Prodigy/Chems/Fatboy Slim circa 1997 the obvious precedent - John the Baptists to Skrillex's Jesus if you will. Though they would obviously be horrified by that.

― Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Tuesday, November 15, 2011 8:37 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Horrified by the comparison to Skrillex or the Christian stuff.

?

Prodigy/Chems/Fatboy Slim circa 1997 the obvious precedent - John the Baptists to Skrillex's Jesus if you will. Though they would obviously be horrified by that.

― Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Tuesday, November 15, 2011

they've no reason to be horrified - they made enough terrible music between themselves

I'm fairly certain that if offered some kind of Skrillex collab the Prodigy members would be very enthusiastic. Anyone who wrote Smack My Bitch Up would.

http://theprodigyfanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/keith-flint.jpg

vs

http://s3.amazonaws.com/hottopic_shockhound_production/attachments/4498/skrillex.jpg

Undercut vs. inverse mohawk not even a fight really.

Well the inverse mohawk is a lot more practical if you're balding.

Strikes me that it doesn't have to be a choice of either of those two haircuts cos why not have both?

http://exclaim.ca/images/strapping_young_lad.jpg

well played

Kraftwerk - not exactly dance music, not exactly appealing directly to Rock (capital R) fans
Numan - same
New Order - again, it's not electronic music and it's more pop than rock
Moby - no. I mean, he made a rock album and he made electronic albums, but I don't think the two worlds converged. I don't think you got a lot of metalheads getting into Play.
Fatboy Slim, Chems etc - they had crossover appeal and some rock fans got into dance through them, but I don't think they were aiming squarely at a rock crowd.

Closest is the Prodigy, Fat Of The Land onwards, but still they got Gizz Butt to shove guitars all over their music and still came from a dance milieu. I should clarify I was talking about purely electronic dance music aimed at the hard rock market.

Skrillex's fanbase came to him via Deadmau5 as much as they did via screamo.

Numan in his Tubeway Army days definitely had a lot of crossover appeal to say, glam
I agree that Fatboy is probably the closest real "mainstream" thing we've had lately, especially as he tended to have a lot of "I can't believe he is intentionally ruining this" moments

Moby - no. I mean, he made a rock album and he made electronic albums, but I don't think the two worlds converged. I don't think you got a lot of metalheads getting into Play.

i don't know about metalheads (and don't know if it has to be metalheads to apply) but moby was big in the alternative rock crowd starting with revolver but well on into a lot of tracks from play, the local radio station wfhs would put him alongside smashing pumpkins, afghan whigs, better than ezra etc with no problem. all of that being the first music i was actively into in my head i'm fully accustomed to still thinking of moby as a "band" myself.

Blue Monday is electronic music, dog latin.

of course the US's historical relationship with dance music is quite different to the UK's which will change things. The people in the UK I know who follow him are all ex-nu-metallers (or their generic equivalent), but the US has always had that Go/Candy Rave thing which Skrillex is also very much a child of.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zsqQtsSZmd4/TbppJXDd_JI/AAAAAAAAAA8/vjldRUQdjZE/s1600/450px-Plur%2521.jpg

I think I parsed the previous post wrong when I mentioned Moby - I was talking about him as an artist who started making dance music and moved towards rock.

I put my ear closer to that Nice Sprites thing again the other day. Matt isn't wrong about his rhythms being a bit uninspired - most of the tracks stick to very simple half-step or 4/4 rhythms. I hadn't really noticed this before, because the rest of the music does have a number of twists and turns, "bits" coming in and out of the mix etc. I guess the beat anchors everything, and yeah compared to Aphex it's nowhere close. But I guess it's not meant to be IDM, it's big dumb rave music for emos so does it need to be complicated? I guess it would be a vast improvement if the beats were more exciting.

how popular is Skrillex in the UK? Metal Hammer are covering him (probably due to Korn connection, but it backs up what dog latin says about nu-metallers liking him)

There's a certain subsect of UK society who may as well and will forever be US emo-punk-metallers with tattoos, ear tubes and all that. Kerrang, being the most popular music publication in the UK (IIRC) means these guys proliferate throughout Britain and so there'll always be a huge market for angsty, driving, fratty rock over here. Then there's the dubstep connection - and of course a lot of dubstep kids are into Skrillex. It kind fo creates a mush of a subculture where hardcore kids hang out with rudeboys, with quite a big crossover. I can see Skrillex playing some pretty big shows over here.

kerrang covers (or used to) cypress hill and the prodigy so it wouldnt surprise me in the least if they covered skrillex.

i hope that korn album is a total flop. i dread to think of dubstep metal becoming the next big thing

ach, frankly I couldn't care less if it is or it isn't. The next big thing is bound to be schoot whatever it is so if it's dubstep metal it'll be about as effective in pissing me off as much as anything else. The Korn/Skrillex thing sounds kind of great for the first 30 seconds until Jonathan Davis starts doing his tortured millionaire thing, and then you realise it's just a patchwork where korn get their bit and skrillex gets his. Skrillex seems to have a bit of an ear for strong melodies - I genuinely wonder what the van dyke parks collab will sound like. It seems so incongruous, but kind of makes sense at the same time.

The Korn album's actually pretty good.

http://i.imgur.com/kuyYO.jpg

lol

which ilxor is going to post on there "its needs a donk"?

please let that not be real

yeah if that's not shopped in some way then Skrillex fans are even worse than I imagined

I just checked. There are now 1,426 comments

most of the recent comments are positive though

this one is great too, found it linked on a messageboard by rdj himself http://www.skrillex.com/forums/751ae8-is-skrillex-about-to-release-an-ep-on-aphex-twins-record-label/

good to the last drop

lol

Great piece from Nitsuh on My Chemical Romance, Skrillex and the origins of that world that people over a certain age will never truly get:

http://pitchfork.com/features/why-we-fight/8754-my-chemical-romance/

fully went into that thinking "i bet it's the now oldhat excuse of excusing skrillex based on his derivate mall screamo roots" and was not disappointed

it's a puzzle of a conundrum of a maze of excuses, if you will

you guys really made it this far into the thraed without skrillex.gif?

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvepu1KTat1qexyuco1_400.gif

It's been on other threads. :)

http://i42.tinypic.com/2zois0w.jpg

that is the best

I was hoping you'd show up with that tbh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puZJA2qKBsw

lol

dying @ that

http://i.imgur.com/Mf2Zf.jpg

damn i didn't think anything could make me like skrillzex but that'll do it

Love that Kramer clip

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxphnzkJNP1qav850o1_500.jpg

looks like an anonymous industry ad for dj gear

"behringer makes you go whoosh" etc

he looks like a michael bay transformer

lol at the skrillex windowlicker pic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlPoS9BVAAs

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/401972_346452385378891_300205486670248_1269543_253039391_n.jpg

late to this, and the "serious thoughts" portion of this thread seems to have run its course for the moment, but this music is a hell of a lot of fun, and i'm having a hard time seeing why it might be so bad and hated. thought i'm probably too old to really gi and will never be a serious fan, when i'm in the proper frame of mind, i like the joyfully anthemic melodies, the choppy adhd comedy and the ridiculous heavy metal bass drops equally.

diamonddave85 on "scary monsters and nice sprites":

...those are mall metal breakdown beats! just imagine those beats being played with a double-bass drum and the wobble bass being a chuggachugga guitar riff and you have a straight up screamo breakdown.

otm. first thing i thought when i heard the big bass in "cinema" was "o shit, that's a metal guitar part!" a lot of this does seem filtered through a nu metal/screamo sensibility, but it's way more generous and inviting than most of that stuff. skrillex's best move, imo, is that he jettisons the angsty, narcissistic ear punishment that so much teen rebel noise trades in, whether rock or electronic, while managing to retain the supercharged, jumparound intensity.

there's a lot of grousing upthread by people who fw this part but not that one. when it comes to tracks like "cinema" and "rock n roll", i like each element on its own but love the way they support one another. suspense gathers behind the sunny melodies when you know that mosh bass is about to wobble down and wreck the room, and the poptones are all the more lovely when they glisten back up out of a heap of broken speakers.

can's see why anybody who ever dug the prodigy, the chemical brothers or primal scream would have trouble clearing a bit of aesthetic space for skrillex.

Because we're old now

Prodigy maybe, but I don't see anything Skrillex is doing to be on par with the Chems or Primal Scream, both of whom have done way more than just Dig or XTRMNTR. I mean all the "big beat" Chems stuff amounts to like 6-7 tracks

he might be more talented than Crystal Method, lol

he's more talented than crystal method

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-M90iCenK4&feature=related

Crystal Method owns wtf

today must be opposite day!

Who is "river"

i'm just a semi-lurker, chill

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/01/27/arts/27SKRILLEX1_SPAN/JPSKRILLEX1-articleLarge.jpg

funk doesn't work

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/417367_340151512673501_100000359659538_1139016_1532823759_n.jpg

He's gonna think about skrillex every time he takes a crap.

btw neo's a great club, been open since something like '79.

Listening to this for the first time. Weirdly like Owl City's goth brother.

Or like, a Skrillex seal of approval on that blowjob. Some poor woman doesn't know what's lurking for her under those basketball shorts.

@Skrillex Skrillex
I wish I was aloud to use the n word sometimes (in a non racist way of course)
26 Apr via Twitter for BlackBerry®

that is amazing.

I retract any half-hearted defense of him I've ever made.

Maybe he has worked with or collaborated with individuals who are able to drop this word and he's just sitting there being sad

then again, maybe those people were members of korn

maybe he means he wants to employ the "ESTE ES NIGGAAAAA" sample right before a drop

fun to watch the bloatification of skrillex

@Skrillex Skrillex
I wish I was aloud to use the n word sometimes (in a non racist way of course)
26 Apr via Twitter for BlackBerry®

Wow. He is ten times the moron I assumed he was.

yeah, regret trying to say nice things about him itt

fuck a skillix

Crystal Method owns wtf
― river, Monday, January 23, 2012

@Skrillex Skrillex
I wish I was aloud to use the n word sometimes (in a non racist way of course)
26 Apr via Twitter for BlackBerry®

^This statement sums up the warped grasp of racism that my generation (and younger) has.

Who cares about history or other people's feelings? I as a white person need to say the "N" word badly.

*roll eyes*

http://sht.tl/nBoS

John Justen and Fluffy Bear Will Drink It

http://www.rollingstone.com/random-notes-2012/saved-by-the-bell-0675041

damn mr belding got fat

the n-word tweet is from april but did it just make news this week?

I dunno. I just saw it this week.

i looked up the original tweet when you c+p'd it here and could have sworn it only had like 10 retweets-- it has over 300 now.

Yeah, I think it kind of snuck under the radar at the time.

@Skrillex Skrillex
I wish I was aloud to use the n word sometimes (in a non racist way of course)
26 Apr via Twitter for BlackBerry®

maybe if you do a track with NIGGA?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDIjcw0qELg

crut already made that joke xp

so he did!

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/deadmau5-pranks-skrillex-by-wearing-his-cellphone

"YO BRO IMMA GET U REAL GOOD LOL HURR HURR HURR"

"LAWL O MAN, BRO GOT ME SO GOOD HURR HURR LOL"

has he had an operation or does he actively choose to have his hair cut like a wanker?

that haircut is in style for better or worse. also see the guitarist for Krallice: http://i.imgur.com/JNpHe.jpg

i saw a dude with that haircut standing around smoking a cigarette last week and felt genuinely for a tiny moment, 'what is skrillex doing here'.

and i don't even know a fucking thing about him except for that picture of him freaking out.

I thought the N word tweet was from a parody account @Skrilllex (with three L's)

or maybe his real account used to be called that. I saw it get RT'd the first time around but thought it was fake.

http://girlsthatlooklikeskrillex.tumblr.com/

man i saw a girl on the train yesterday who could've conned her way to fame by claiming she was skrillex

i prefer:

http://lesbianswholooklikejustinbieber.tumblr.com/

Is he famous for his looks or because he was the one who consolidated that annoying wooble wooble dubstep sound? All this music sounds like a preset now. I had no idea he was that famous, thought he was recluded to blog fame.

hint: he is not famous for his looks

he was nominated for a grammy last week

invented sick drops iirc

hint: he is not famous for his looks

― illuminati girl (J0rdan S.)

I know it's an awful look but it helps to relate to his audience. The music has little to none personality so you have to trust the way he looks to know it must be your thing if you're into the industrial-goth-angst crowd. If he dressed like a guido the only thing that would change would be his audience, the music would remain mostly the same.

hey moka people love his music

his music is ok, it's his hair that's fucking horrible

his "look" isn't really distinctive tho, moka

his hair is ridiculous and he wears big glasses but the only reason ppl use him as a touchstone for those things is bcuz he's famous for his music

Yes I suppose they do, but that's not what I'm arguing... it's, why him? there's thousands of dubstep artists right now that sound pretty much the same. It's hard to differentiate them by sound so I'm thinking this guy is branding himself better than the others. The look and personality you portray are more important than music itself. He's a pop icon now, no? Anyone following the popscene more than 10 minutes can tell it's more about style than content.

Although to be perfectly honest I haven't been following the scene so maybe he was in fact a pioneer of sorts and the others are copycats of him.

moka this shit isnt that hard

I've only noticed how much of a preset it is since on hypem's popular tracks there's always at least 3 or 4 remixes that use this sound.

If you login today per example there's some guys called Nero, Flux Pavillion, Skrillex and Datsik on the top 20 and maybe I'm becoming old but if you played them to me without knowing who they are I'd think they're all the same guy.

Those are all Aphex Twin side projects iirc

those other guys are popular for their music too and no one knows what they look like

I mean, Skrillex's distinctive look helps with his branding and all that, but he became famous, first and formost, for his music. I knew his music for like a year before I ever saw a picture of him.

although I did have rather bemused reaction upon finding out: is it brostep?

You are right, I'm overthinking it. I was just honestly surprised to see he won 3 grammys and all the hype surrounding him when I had no idea he was that popular outside the blogosphere. You rarely see electronic artists get this famous in the US. He just sounded very cheesy and generic to me, but that never stopped Coldplay from becoming world-famous.

You rarely see electronic artists get this famous in the US.

Did you enjoy your three-year nap?

http://i.imgur.com/NNuUZ.jpg

C'mon Tiesto became famous in the US like a decade after Europe. Even Latinamerica got Tiesto before the states.

Turned on the radio lately? Not a lot of singer-songwriter solo guitarist types on pop radio.

yeah, tiesto is a bad example for the reasons moka said. however,

http://afromonk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Deadmau5.jpg

deadmau5 just reinforces what I said before. The way the artist looks helps his fame more than the way he sounds. At least in usa.

Moka, you are just digging yourself a deeper hole here.

The halloween theory... There's a corelation here: If you can dress as them in Halloween and people get who you are, your chances of becoming famous increases. That's one of the reasons why artists like say Moby, Deadmau5 and Skrillex are more succesful than their peers.

That is absolutely ridiculous.

Populism is absolutely ridiculous.

How many pop icons with an unassuming image can you think of?

as opposed as

The halloween theory...

Think about it, it's pretty cool. Before propelling yourself into pop stardom you have to think "would people dress like my alter ego in halloween?".

Would Skrillex be less famous if his alias were Sonny Moore and he looked like this?:

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_loc8raubVG1qf0dk7.jpg

That is not a good Hallowen costume.

moka i think you just cracked the da vinci code of popular music

those halloweens past when EVERYONE was dressed like Moby

u have to have the look, and the sound, and the moxie

think abt it

burial would be skrillex in america now if he looked like an emo tween instead of a 'bloke'

thats completely false btw just continuing the lols

blokestep vs halloweenstep

it's, why him? there's thousands of dubstep artists right now that sound pretty much the same

but most of them aren't as good at writing the big cheesy pop hooks that go inbetween the 'sick drops'

scrillex got famous because his music is used for all the youtubed noscope vids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b92tVQld5J8&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyTFx2QxIwU&feature=related

Moka is perfectly correct and what he is saying is obvious about pop music, in fact it is so obvious that I feel like everyone is saying "duh" to themselves then trolling him on here for fun? Though, yes, you have to also have compelling or slightly memorable music as well.

moka is female fyi

Sorry!

Apologies, Moka.

Nah don't worry. And yes they're trolling me but I'm also not very good at expressing myself. It's pop music 101.

It's a little bit image, but I would guess that a fair number of people passing on Skrillex music have no idea what the dude looks like. I mean, the "lol american electronic music" comparison is The Crystal Method and definitely no one remembers what those dudes look like.

Other acts of that stature who have done well in the US? Well, arguably, the reason this dude has done so well this time around is due to the fact pop music is definitely well into this type of sound -- notable pop artists have remixes in this style, and electro-ridden crap is huge with popular music either having acid squelches in their songs or remixes, dudes like LMFAO making a pop success of it, or people who sound like eurovision stars gaining prominence in the US pop charts.

So you have a bass music undercurrent that Skrillex isn't completely divorced from, the idea of "dubstep" (whether it relates to the original version or not) being a genre with some traction, especially among post-breakbeat and crap dnb US people, and pop music being into electro sounds culminating in popular acclaim for this dude who pretty much typifies the young person coming up with pretty shallow stuff.

idk, I'm cynical

moka i am not trolling when i say this thread may be of some use:

is it brostep?

imo there's something intrinsic to skrillex's music that is appealing to lots of people that has very little to do w/ his image

yeah def is very zeitgeisty

Moka: a generation of kids grew up playing video games and listening to mall-punk/nu-metal/screamo, then went off to college and discovered club drugs. Skrillex is playing to that (apparently massive) crowd.

Video games : check, Nu-metal: check, club drugs: I plead the fifth.

But yeah, that's pretty much where I was at when I started listening to dubstep in 2005.

That being said I flat out can't dance to brostep anymore and I am just tired of all this bullshit.

Kids will be kids, there's nothing to "get" about Skrillex' music. crut otm .

I read a story once about Russell Simmons meeting some promising young ingenue in his office. He closed the door and laid out a small pack of cards on the table. On each card was a silhouette. Simmons asked the up-and-comer who each silhouette was, and for each card it was obvious: Kid n Play. Public Enemy. Biggie. Etc. Simmons literally had the theory that people have to recognize you from your silhouette or you'll never be a superstar.

How has Skrillex got so massive so quickly? I mean, do people usually win Grammies after a handful of singles?

I mean there's popular-among-American-fratboys massive and Grammies massive and this seems a pretty rapid ascendancy to the latter.

I dunno, but safesearch:moderate GIS for skrillex audience will get you a drawing of Skrillex boning a My Little Pony. This much is true.

Safesearch off GIS shows that, and the pic before it is some guy sodomising Skrillex while holding a mobile phone and saying "this is really gay, I'd better tweet about it"

Actually both images are on a Reddit thread, as is this:
http://s1.static.gotsmile.net/images/2011/12/22/funny-skrillex-bee_132455836669.gif

I read a story once about Russell Simmons meeting some promising young ingenue in his office. He closed the door and laid out a small pack of cards on the table. On each card was a silhouette. Simmons asked the up-and-comer who each silhouette was, and for each card it was obvious: Kid n Play. Public Enemy. Biggie. Etc. Simmons literally had the theory that people have to recognize you from your silhouette or you'll never be a superstar.

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:50 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Weird, I pretty much typed this up but with Groening talking about cartooning and how to make recognizable characters, which he says exactly that, but then decided maybe it wasn't a close enough example.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/164/teddyskrillex.jpg

lol sry hueg

haw

but most of them aren't as good at writing the big cheesy pop hooks that go inbetween the 'sick drops'

― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Wednesday, February 15, 2012 8:42 PM Bookmark

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

i think someone just needs to enlighten moka on the difference b/w correlation and causation

http://mrknobbymusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/pretty-sonny-moore-230x300.jpg

i saw a girl who looked like skrillex today.

Did anyone... ?

https://vimeo.com/36820781

C'mon Tiesto became famous in the US like a decade after Europe. Even Latinamerica got Tiesto before the states.

...but tiesto is european in the first place, it's not uncommon for the us to get latepassed on anything that's not initially out of the us. he was still ridic big here regardless of where he was big first

i saw a girl who looked like skrillex today.
― zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:48 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

high places' mary pearson's in town
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qtzcfa8wipk/TrbtoDe9mjI/AAAAAAAAAtk/hIJWggl0CLs/s1600/High+Places.jpg

on the left: people who are not n/a

a friend of mine just gave herself a skrillex 'do. she's had thick black glasses for a while now too.

would give job at mindgarden

lol! mindvalley

i fucked that up by confusing it with a soulstrut meme

mindhead

the more I think about his hair the more terrible I think it is

he kinda reminds me of Bib Fortuna

lol otm

why him? there's thousands of dubstep artists right now that sound pretty much the same. It's hard to differentiate them by sound so I'm thinking this guy is branding himself better than the others. The look and personality you portray are more important than music itself. He's a pop icon now, no? Anyone following the popscene more than 10 minutes can tell it's more about style than content.

― Moka, Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:21 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is from a while back and has been addressed, but much as i respect Moka, i don't like this sort of dismissal of pop. it seems way too broad and presumptive to mean anything. even when i don't like popular music, i figure that there's some musical reason for its popularity. image and moment and all those other factors have a huge impact, obviously, but skrillex sounds pretty distinctive to me, both in the melodies and the breakdowns. i can see why people would like his music in particular and not just "that sound". 3 grammys was ridic tho.

Skrillex Uses Satanic and Homosexual Influence to Win Grammys

From http://christwire.org/2012/02/skrillex-uses-satanic-and-homosexual-influence-to-win-grammys/

Skrillex, a Gothic icon and Lesbian fashionista whose name is Latin for “Homosexual Satan Wasp”, is the biggest act in Dubstep today — a music genre founded on consuming massive amounts of drugs and having raucous pre-marital sex with numerous partners — and his winnings at the 2012 Grammys prove that his satanic presence will be felt for years to come. As long as Skrillex wins Grammys and is accepted by mainstream media, he will claim souls for Satan and molest our children through his perverse philosophy of futuristic devil machine music.

Skrillex is the inventor of “dubstep” whose sole purpose is to provide a “drop” — common youth terminology for procuring and snorting drugs. In addition, the rhythm patterns he employs in his “music” are known to cause seizures to certain people, which provides ample opportunity for other concert-goers to rape said afflicted person(s).

Skrillex, a known emosexual, was born Sonny Moore. He rose to fame with the satanic Rock ‘n roll band “From First To Last” (a band name that celebrates falling from God’s grace) and soon parlayed that success into something much more blasphemous; something that incorporates elements of Warhol-era rampant homosexuality and perversion, electronic “music” and lesbian-influenced haircuts. It is rumored that 1 in 3 women are raped at a Skrillex concert and forced to abort their children soon after.

Over 100% of homosexual gays listen to, or have listened to Skrillex in their life — mostly while participating in door-to-door recruitment for sex orgies or attempting to molest children in one of the patented “Rape Vans” used by the gay homo community.

In addition, Skrillex has launched a grotesque fashion trend, where upon weak-minded woman destroy their hallowed vessels of child birthing by SHAVING the side of their head — the same thing responsible for the downfall of Samson is being ENCOURAGED by this gnome-ish pervert. Skrillex will stop at nothing to get every teen in America hooked on dubstep and “ecstasy” (a potent street drug responsible for terrorism).

(Skrillex, shown here drinking “ecstasy”, in particular the potent “X3″ version)

As a proud parent of four, healthy, able-bodied children, I urge all fellow parents to think thrice before allowing their own children to attend a dubstep show. These shows are full of unemployed “Occupiers” who seek to rape and maim your children and family life. Skrillex fans are MORE likely to rob a gas station and set a retirement home on fire than 1000% of Christians.

Please join with me in boycotting dubstep and this evil, satanic harbinger of deceit.

Homosexual Satan Wasp!

That's not parody, is it?

It's parody, but 'Homosexual Satan Wasp' is an A+++ screen name.

Okay good. After that horrible US house debate on contraception, I'm willing to believe anything about the religious right.

It wld be am excellent dn, yes.

Taken.

christwire is such a good idea for a site

Sign you've arrived:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Y2nqq9mcL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

oh wow, can't wait to hear how you do an lfo wobble on piano

Will wait for the pan-pipes tribute album.

DJs: piano-dropping moments

http://mstatic.mit.edu/nom150/items/214-piano_drop_mit_museum.jpg

Shakira is crazy about Skrillex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5COUHz6v44&feature=youtu.be

she is!

http://i.imgur.com/tzhRH.gif

http://i.imgur.com/55YZl.gif

http://stereogum.com/979892/in-defense-of-skrillex/top-stories/lead-story/

i thought that was a good piece & more or less described my concert experience as well

hes a live show more than a recording artist, imo

yeah, good piece

http://i.imgur.com/6GjFN.gif

This is a good piece IMO:
http://www.avclub.com/articles/everybody-hates-skrillexexcept-for-his-fans-in-the,71901/

The more successful you are IRL, the more hate you attract URL.

This this gonna be like the other A/V Club music essasys where it's like one really good point about something everyone is already talking about but somehow expanded into 12 paragraphs

yeah I'm kind of sick of the "why do so many people hate this guy, isn't it like how parents of teens hated Elvis?" argument

one really good point about something everyone is already talking about but somehow expanded into 12 paragraphs

Isn't this how music journalism works in general?

is skrillex really that hated? seems like he went from underground famous to accepted/appreciated in a very short time frame

maybe not hated but he's def still a punchline in a way few other artists are

People I know who hate Skrillex haaaaaaaaaaaate Skrillex.

Yeah, but so many people who hate Skrillex are douchey dubstep "purists," but nevertheless, your point stands, rev.

i kinda dislike dubstep in general but i really do get the feeling that if you're not seeing this stuff live or with bigass speakers, it's kinda shit, plus there's the whole douchy-16-year-old element

Every time I see bros in a jeep bumping something with wub wub bass, I assume I am hearing Skrillex. i could be wrong.

Yeah, but so many people who hate Skrillex are douchey dubstep "purists," but nevertheless, your point stands, rev.

― heiswagger (rennavate), Thursday, April 5, 2012 11:25 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A lot of people who aren't dubstep purists have a hate-on for Skrillz too tho!

http://www.mixmag.net/words/features/richie-hawtin-interviews-skrillex

i'm pretty lots of people i know that hate skrillex and dubstep have like heard one skrillex song and heard no actual other dubstep at all. it's just a thing to say

http://i.imgur.com/uhvnQ.jpg

hahahaha

is that Corey Feldman?

No, it's more useful.

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/skrillex/mynameisskrillex.html

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/skrillex/firstoftheyearequinox.html

― Tuomas, Friday, April 20, 2012 1:40 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hahaha

What in the

Skrillex ‏
@Skrillex

I wish I was aloud to use the n word sometimes (in a non racist way of course)

yeah, that o_O moment was discussed upthread.

Got it, thought it was just posted (saw the Apr 26 date, missed the 2011 part!)

I had to unretweet that so I could retweet it again.

why is there a firestorm over this today

it was in that Jezebel hipster racism article

ah

aloud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z1RRslsFxA

I totally want a Skrillex button for all of my board games, I'd be grinning just like the guy in the video

that video + shrooms = i would literally die.

I was hoping that video was why this thread got revived.

http://www.forbes.com/profile/skrillex/

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/554831_10150922448643889_1362338399_n.jpg

hahaha

saw him for the 2nd time tonite. imo if you've never seen skrillex live u dont really have the full scope of what it is he does

http://s18.postimage.org/6huhhhaw9/423196_319620308101997_981731436_n.jpg

saw him for the 2nd time tonite. imo if you've never seen skrillex live u dont really have the full scope of what it is he does

I believe you and I want to see him live but I have to lol at this

tbh that is exactly what someone told me about Phish, years ago

haha

http://i.imgur.com/D2XiY.png

tbh that is exactly what someone told me about Phish, years ago

― mh, Sunday, June 17, 2012 11:06 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i dont like phish but i dont like most of the wack bands ppl around here like either

i do like dance music & hes great at spinning it.

littledoweknow of the full scope of what it is he does

if you've never seen skrillex live u dont really have the full scope of what it is he does

I used to be the #1 hater of positions like this i.e. if I have to see you live to like your records then your records suck but time has mellowed me on this q. Still, it's fair to judge recorded output on its own merits whether you've seen the act live or not I think

I thought he doesn't "spin" anything but just does live recreations of his songs, including ramp up/slow breakdowns, creating song-length ups and downs rather than maintaining energy for multiple songs? idk, that is just what I got from earlier live reviews

I'm cool with that, and I'm sure it is a good live show, but that is pretty much completely different from most live dance acts

also it's different for skrillex because his recorded material is like 2% of the reason why he's risen to fame

Is that really for-real true? Like, are you saying that a v. high % of the people who've made him famous are people who've seen him live - does he tour constantly and widely? I don't doubt that his live act is a big part of how he came up (that's true of acts reaching back a long ways) but "the recorded output barely matters at all" is a pretty intense thing to say imo

youtube is probably a factor

ha yeah ok I'm a fuckin' mummy, it's v. hard for me to imagine seeing a guy whose music I didn't otherwise care about on YouTube and goin' "oh fuck, I love this now, having seen it on YouTube"

think he meant the way he looks/headbangs in popular .gifs accounts for the other 98%

why can't this guy rise to the top the way the rest of us did it i.e. by sleeping with the right people

brostep product differentiation

I finally checked out some more of the recordings and I had underestimated the plunderphonic aspect. If Girl Talk is brazen about borrowing, and doesn't do much of any transformation of his material, a lot of this guy's stuff is playing with that space between original production and sampling. The word most people would use is 'remix' except they're all mostly unauthorized remixes. What this means is that most of his strongest, most effective tracks are commercially unreleasable; he only plays them live.

I'm going on excerpts from youtubes; I'm interested in finding myself a good mp3 of a straight through live set.

Fwiw I dont listen to his music as songs at home, I think theyre kind of like video game music or something. Kind of entertaining in a soundtrack way but not rlly interesting

He uses the common denominator of dubstep-- the drop but also the grinding robot intercourse textures-- to play with a wide variety of rhythmic components, shifting from dub reggae to juke to hip hop to regular house, balancing emotional moments with textured grinding moments that are like the common ground of acid and guitar crunch. The hip hop influence has definitely been understated, the entire stadium was doing more rap arm chopping than raver hands

Plunderphonics thing is a good point too

Like, it takes that mid nineties ALL GENRE frankendance but instead of being vibeless cacophony he gives it coherence under the dubstep banner. The live show is what its all about... Hes not mixing records but hes definitely a dj

I meant mid 00s not mid 90s

The hip hop influence has definitely been understated, the entire stadium was doing more rap arm chopping than raver hands

I almost came back to make this point: the song arrangement and, from what I've heard, concert presence are much more reminiscent of the energy and build-up of that spectrum. I don't think there are going to be any cross-song 15 minute build-ups at a skrillex show. More drops, more head bobbing, more chopping hands for sure.

I just saw Skrillex live at Bumbershoot. I went to Bumbershoot for the comedy, but this show was happening at the end, so I figured why not?

Have you guys ever watched a movie that surprised you on how good it was, walking right out of the theater?
That's what this show was: a pretty stunning production all 'round with some positively memorable scenes.
However, you start to immediately think of a couple of flaws walking to the subway station or bus stop or after hours bar or car or sonething.
Then you get home, and you realize even more things that were pretty lame about what you just saw as you go to bed.
Then more flaws hatch out day by day. About a month later, you want to kick in your own teeth for wasting your time on having seen such a thing. Then you kinda mentally deny you experienced it i.e. you're not even sure you saw anything at all, but you totally remember you went.

This is the mental pattern I'm already detecting with this Skrillex show. :-/

At least the "EW SKRILLEX KOOTIES" people only hatch out the negativity in short bursts.

That said, Skrillex should stick to goth-mane whips, and stay off the mic. Wow. Least inspiring crowd-hyper ever. That Skrillhouse pic is totally accurate re his voice.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/408335_518080031540509_2018097304_n.jpg

seems fair

need each other because they suck

not gonna investigate further than page 1 of google right now but there appears to be a substantial amount of Daft Punk slash out there

not that I'm surprised or anything

― thomas smangalter (J0rdan S.)

Oh Avril:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/hawaii_bombay/ONTD/ONTD%205/AvrilLavigneAbbeyDawnAvrilLavigneArrivalsEZ3sDhwzKu0x.jpg

waht is

oh it loaded now

looks way more MLP than Skrillex tbh

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/396403_10152162315440122_1446226173_n.jpg

https://twitter.com/edwarddbacal/status/258052671364276226/photo/1 I don't know why, exactly, but I thought it was hilarious seeing this scrawled across a bathroom stall door.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A5TJiZKCIAAOIAu.jpg

SKRILLEX IS WATCHING YOU SHIT.

"brb dropping some bass"

sick plop brah

http://static.flickr.com/66/228881206_d28a586bc0.jpg

irl lol

(on the kob)

http://i.imgur.com/70YmC.jpg

Where's the drop? There's the drop.

http://www.nme.com/news/ellie-goulding/66877?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=elliegoulding

i knew this would eventually come in handy

http://i.imgur.com/OnMmX.jpg

daaaaaamn cold as ice you two

Meanwhile, it was recently confirmed that Skrillex will record all of the music for new Disney film Wreck-It Ralph

:/

http://soundisstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Skrillex-and-Ellie-Goulding.jpg

"bangarang" is amazing, fuiud

I finally succumbed to Bangarang a couple of months ago. Just ramping the tempo up helps. Like if he was prepared to commit fully to this direction and forget about all the other lopey shit I would be 100% on board with that.

yeah bangarang is good. the synth in that is just so good.

I mean we should all be concerned about crossing the rubicon that blurs brostep and frankenhouse that probably happened ages ago, and couldn't be worse than actual brostep anyway.

i am obligated to counter-rmde any time mdc r-s his de at anything half-tempo

even if it's brostep, lol

But you admit that the non-half tempo stuff is better!

(Here at least which is a fairly easy win admittedly)

lol i'm still kinda drunk and not at my most articulate, so i'll tell you why you're stupid in the morning

Although in fairness Bangarang's virtues vs the rest of Skrillex arise more from the fact he doesn't drop a gigantic robotic shit in the middle of it.

#old

if this contretemps is secretly about mala in cuba then mdc otm, sit down rev

thing is if you take away the giant robotic shit in the middle arent you just left with daft punk for entrylev spazzes

lol no it's way bigger than mala in cuba, rest assured

if i did dn's then "it's way bigger than mala in cuba" would be it right now

this thread has reminded me to get round to listen to ZEDD's album, which tbh i have already to rep for but let's see how far i'm gonna have to stretch

*decided

thing is if you take away the giant robotic shit in the middle arent you just left with daft punk for entrylev spazzes

That's sort of a less kind way of putting "blurring brostep and frankenhouse" but actual frankenhouse tends to stand or fall on how catchy it is and 'Bangarang' is really catchy.

yeah i probably should have added i was fine with dpfels

skrillex's fame&fortune is built on those robot turds, you can't try and embrace him while thumbing yr nose at them

http://www.skrillexquest.com

@ 1:45

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWdOjXJzmZU

http://i4.ytimg.com/u/_TVqp_SyG6j5hG-xVRy95A/small_banner.jpg?v=50b8d349

the zedd remix of that song is what Ty$ sampled for 'my cabana,' and skrillex wouldnt clear it :(

you should personally appeal to yung gr0up0n on ty$'s behalf

i actually think "the summit" is an amazing track

I like that Skrillex has Chris Cunningham-lite videos to go along with his Aphex Twin-lite music.

ha

I think that's only really quite true of the "Equinox" video tho

is that the "call 911 now!!" song?

minaj 'spaceships' is the only real fake aphex/cunningham this year

is that the "call 911 now!!" song?

― mh, Wednesday, December 12, 2012 6:59 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes

‎"Hey Dad, do you know who Skrillex is?"

Yes.

"Do you know why he can never go fishing?"

No, why?

"Because he always drops the BASS!"

Really so much better than the official vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEJHrmliVQw

that is one of the best things I have ever seen

that was probably my best-spent two minutes of 2012

I just watched that three more times because Christmas Eve wasn't half the experience that video is.

not to hate but the original 30 second noscope vids from a long time ago were way more jarring and effective

link?

no idea sry man

you just have to trust my post

that was pretty hilarious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_8xfmxea2M

adorable

That Farming Simulator video is hilarious, but mainly because Farming Simulator is hilarious.

so dude sounds like burial now? this is cool but i'm not sure something tasteful like this is what i want from him after all

WTF DUDE WARE'S THE FUCKIN DROP?????

what i like about "leaving" (and i do like it, blatant burial jack or not) is that sonny can't do dark or ominous if he tried, so there's this dayglo happy rave optimism to it which is a nice twist to this sound

It's much catchier than Burial, and I sometimes wish Burial was a bit catchier.

Lol he's even gone for a 'Sad Roads At Night' stock photo.

man i was just starting to get into skrillex

It's like the opposite of when Dylan went electric...

man i was just starting to get into skrillex

― flopson, Thursday, January 3, 2013 1:53 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't think anyone should be worrying that "leaving" is indicative of the general direction he's going into. it's more a diversion than anything i'd imagine

i didn't realize that people listened to skrillex's recorded music

i just like bangarang a lot is all & was hoping for more of the same

^^^

"Bangarang" is awesome cause it works in the same jam-packed maximalist way as Basement Jaxx.

"bangarang" is def pretty cool

i mean, for what it is

hmm I guess I will listen to bangarang, but track above is really generic sounding to my ears, like burial, pearson sound or faltydl with preset drums and strings. it should play in the cool teen store at the mall, whatever that is

/baddayatwork

and haha

ZOMBY ® ‏@ZombyMusic
Now dont ever mention burial and skrillex in same sentence again
16m

Has Skrillex collaborated with Unicorn Kid yet? Should happen.

it should play in the cool teen store at the mall, whatever that is

this is a compliment right?

most people don't like youth, lex

actually, mall music is something I have enjoyed -- but not really meant as a compliment. generic-ness being the key ingredient to make any music suitable for the mall

sad 4 them

i don't think this track sounds like burial, there's something a bit new agey and ambient and '90s about it rather than ~night bus~ dark, but it is as boring as most burial

it should play in the cool teen store at the mall, whatever that is

/baddayatwork

― Dominique, Thursday, January 3, 2013 2:51 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i read this as "it's catchier and has a bigger pop appeal than burial" which isn't good or bad

I don't really think that track is "catchy". it's maybe "lighter" than a burial or faltydl track. imo if it wasn't made by skrillex, it would never show up on ilx

"leaving" off this is pretty sweet

It's less of a copy of burial than faltydl (initially) already was, and way less of a copy than that one track on the Royal-T album. On and then like old Pariah tracks and etc. etc. etc. If copying Burial is a crime then Skrillex is gonna be on death row a long time.

ha

there's something a bit new agey and ambient and '90s about it

Yeah, definitely picked it up here too. Rather like it.

he can kick back and skrillax for a while

there's something a bit new agey and ambient and '90s about it

One of the other tracks has a kind of watery Robert Miles vibe to it as well.

amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABsHmEKS0No&

Am I a disgusting savage for liking the skrillex/a$ap rocky collabo?

it's a pretty decent song but like "fuckin problems" is just asap grafted onto an already existing track... i guess there's virtue in that to some ppl but idk

I don't like it for ASAP per se. But it makes me imagine many other Skrillex rap tunes.

uhhh why's his essential mix kinda on point

https://soundcloud.com/mixdeluxepro/2013-06-16-skrillex-essential

o rly?

https://twitter.com/RBMA/status/370241665485012992

lol

:D D D

album in a week, apparently

I like this album.

1. "All Is Fair In Love And Brostep" with Ragga Twins
2. "Recess" with Kill The Noise, Fatman Scoop & Michael Angelakos
3. "Stranger" with KillaGraham from Milo and Otis and Sam Dew
4. "Try It Out (Neon Mix)" with Alvin Risk
5. "Coast Is Clear" with Chance The Rapper & The Social Experiment
6. "Dirty Vibe" with Diplo, G-Dragon from Big Bang & CL from 2NE1
7. "Ragga Bomb" with Ragga Twins
8. "Doompy Poomp"
9. "Fuck That"
10. "Ease My Mind" with Niki & The Dove
11. "Fire Away" with Kid Harpoon

This is apparently a real tracklisting and not a joke.

lol at ragga twins

The tracklisting reminded me a bit of this actually.

haaaa. I realized at some point the reason I love "Bangarang" is cause it sounds like if Basement Jaxx made brostep.

hope track 9 is a Sagat cover

the g dragon track is not working like i want it to

It is for me

This reminds me of Basement Jaxx. Like, a lot. It's not a masterpiece, but it's good?

I called it first:

"Bangarang" is awesome cause it works in the same jam-packed maximalist way as Basement Jaxx.

― hemioblock (The Reverend), Thursday, January 3, 2013 1:47 PM Bookmark

Yup, it's very otm.

First track is dogshit, second is actually kind of fun. Fatman Scoop really is the perfect collaborator (okay except maybe Scooter).

is this streaming anywhere besides that dumb app?

So glad that the Fatman Scoop track does include both him shouting for a drop, and a drop

is this streaming anywhere besides that dumb app?

― chive on you crazy diamond (diamonddave85), Friday, March 14, 2014 2:25 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

itunes

First track is apparantly just edited stuff from his dj-tools. And yeah, I skip it. Second track also has Passion Pit on it. Which is a pretty smart guest, in that he is also a maximalist.

Album's pretty good IMO.

excellent interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-Plwqrv4vI

I enjoy Skrillex

Uhh, this rules

https://youtu.be/B9k1ma-WoAQ

Mosquitoes don't like Skrillex:

Dieng et al, 2019. The electronic song “Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites” reduces host attack and mating success in the dengue vector Aedes aegypti. Acta tropica, 194, pp.93-99.

So, new album. Should I ?

at the very least check out "tears" ft. joker & sleepnet

missy track is excellent

no physical options yet !?
and yeah, the joker track shakes walls.
also, loving the ukg album closer.
apparently, this is the first album of two this year ?

I caved in. Ratata and Tears are great!

Afaik there’s a second album coming either tomorrow or next week

i was so late to the 'skrillex is good' train

I think he got good when he started producing for other people. I hated when he was making brostep.

he's an amazing house producer imo

his dubstep flavors are also wild as shit and hold up well i think

I was mainly speaking when he started, he got good fast he learned and started absorbing a lot of tricks from other producers. He’s highly professional imho.

Also it helped that he was very young when he started.

best thing here is "too bizarre (juked)"

this four-hour b2b set with Fred again.. and Four Tet (shot from behind the decks) is incredibly fun

earlier i saw a clip on twitter of four tet dropping a beast at a random time in his set,
and fred again just laughing his socks off while was keiran grinning from ear to ear.
i am loving seeing the three of them having an absolute blast together.

i saw someone snark about fred again being a rich twat on twitter but don't know what that's about

if you're in this company i'm not shocked if you're a little rich and twattish sort of comes with the territory afaict

speaking of fred again, does anyone fuck with his new album? i bought a few tracks but can't say i've cottoned on to them, a little too subdued and saccharine for my needs.

FA has some serious heritage :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Again

no idea re his own stuff.
yet.

i liked fred's 2020 album a good bit more than his recent album, but my fav thing he's ever done is the 'gang' ep he made with headie one

sorry by his 2020 album i mean 'actual life (april 14-december 17, 2020)' which released in 2021

I dont like fred again creatively at all, it feels very MOR

like you know that feeling where you're surrounded by ppl getting something and its not hitting you emotionally at all, but it seems to hit everyone else ? thats how I feel listening to him. like skrillex, even when I was unsure if I totally 'got it' still made me 'feel things'

still the best speaker testing track ever

watch the cones wobble more than ever before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGEHijCq9U4

Fr*d Aga*n is DJ Mr. Peanut Butter

— scene-ior frogs (@JubileeDJ) January 28, 2023

second album is out now

Too much skrillex and I’m too old for it so I’ll have to find a time and mood to listen to this but from what I sampled 3AM sounded good.

I still haven’t heard them completely but I assume this is more the “pop radio” album?

yeah it is

the garagey half is the better half

So the algorithm is of course spying on me and recommended me this youtube of skrillex, diplo and bieber breaking down “where are u now” and it’s very interesting, particularly hearing Skrillex’s process:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mY5FNRh0h4

second album is very pop, albeit via the skrillex production.
i love his garage stuff.
also, pretty sure that 'dont get too close' is a take on lil dicky.
there is a song in one of the episodes where lil dicky is showing his g/f re autotune/vocals,
and its totally the same as this skrillex track.

skrillex / ty dolla sign song always worked really well for me

I don't necessarily agree with the premises and there are a lot of institutional biases baked in here, but I thought this was an interesting read for background on how you end up with a critical consensus and a skrillex-shaped hole in coverage

https://firstfloor.substack.com/p/skrillex-is-green-day-and-this-is

this four-hour b2b set with Fred again.. and Four Tet (shot from behind the decks) is incredibly fun

― more crankable (sic), Saturday, February 18, 2023 11:55 AM (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Thanks for this!

that substack article : someone has a massive chip on their shoulder, and hates fun.

for all the chaos re skrillex, he makes grooves that is fun.
my eldest lad has always been properly into the dubstep scene,
goes to nights that are all about 140 and knows stuff.
he saw a skrillex dj set a few years back and loved every minute of it.
'it was all massive drops and brostep, but damn, he has skills' is how he put it.

in other news : looks like there will be physical options for the new albums

https://store.warnermusic.com/en/search/?q=quest+for+fire&search-button=&lang=en_US&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.skrillex.com%2F

that was kind of my take as well

oh, and i realise this is not exactly the same,

but this was the lil dicky thing i was on about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF14wUr4GKE

i.e. the minimal to'ing and fro'ing between them both and the use of autotune ..

crap,
i posted a version that has a long speech in the middle that the original tv show didn't.

I think you're probably right, same 'playing around with saying stuff through auto-tune over a pretty backing track' vibe.

First time Skrillex listener. Trying Quest for Fire rn. These "songs" are awfully short. There are a lot of ideas packed into a few minutes, and the pace can feel frenetic. Would be nice to let some of these tracks breathe a bit.

skrillex is machine tooled for party kids who need something new to happen at least every four measures. tiesto has been doing shorter club tracks with charli xcx, black eyed peas, etc., on the same tip. i used to grumble about this trend because i love getting lost in a groove and because sometimes i need an extra minute or two to find what to play next, but the lack of dead time in these sub-3-minute blasts really helps when you're trying to energize a dance floor.

I've had "Butterflies" with Four Tet constantly on repeat since it dropped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PEe6TP1kCc

holy crap - just saw some recent photos of Sonny Moore and he looks way different since he's cut his hair. Looks almost like Shia LeBeouf and it's freakin me out

https://www.billboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Skrillex-2022-cr-Marilyn-Hue-billboard-1548.jpg

in the video I posted you can see he still has the same hair, it's just tied back

incidentally I bet the clip mark e mentioned is after 38:00 in this video of the three of them DJing in a bus in Times Square

Ah yeah I see that now, but perhaps it's the facial hair and coupled with him tying it back now. Also the eyes are strikingly similar too - and this was obscured by Sonny's previous use of the thick rimmed glasses. Apparently Shia has long hair too now?

https://i.imgur.com/VQGk3lg.jpg

His DJ presence is just so different now with this look than back in the day when his boyish looks with his hair down exuded this enthusiasm and giddiness. I guess I'm just expressing a personal bias against his current look, as it reminds me of someone who is way douchier, which is shitty, so I'll shuffle off now...

his boyish looks with his hair down exuded this enthusiasm

he's 35 years old, grinning, jumping up & down and dancing on top of the decks in his shorts, waving and cheering his collaborators, doing call-and-response moves with the crowd... plenty of boyish enthusiasm on display imo :)

anything over age 30 is decrepit iirc

This is an excellent album.

https://i.ibb.co/Snz4srT/george-santos2-640x480-49636597.jpg

"I said boy-ish."

never thought I would enjoy a skrillex album but... fun so far

never thought I would enjoy a skrillex album but... fun so far

― corrs unplugged, Tuesday, February 28, 2023 12:51 PM (two years ago)

How I'm feeling about this new one. 34 tracks, longest is 2:55, most are about a minute long, and many are layered with call outs to the guest before they drop a line. It's insane, wildly creative, and kinda awesome. Total surprise and kinda funny he drops this on April 1st

after the relatively low level sonics of his recent albums i am loving the chaos of this new album.
surely it's more of a mixtape surely as opposed to 34 individual tracks ?
also, are there any options to buy this as a download yet ?

Digging the new album … feel like it gets what I liked about his live shows describe ad nauseum upthread

feels more like a Dj set than anything

yup.
it's totally a DJ styled set.

love this, feels like the best skrillex record possible