ILM's Top 77 ALBUMS of 2011

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spoiler alert: azealia banks did not win this poll

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 16:02 (fourteen years ago)

fix

pandemic, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:03 (fourteen years ago)

we all know who's going to win this, but pumped anyway!

prolego, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:04 (fourteen years ago)

#1 is probably bon iver lets just get it out of the way now

ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:04 (fourteen years ago)

:(

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:05 (fourteen years ago)

Can we not have Bon Iver in this?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:05 (fourteen years ago)

idk what's going to win! is it lulu

ban opinions (reddening), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:06 (fourteen years ago)

DO we know who's going to win this? Because I have no idea.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:07 (fourteen years ago)

i'm just mentally preparing myself for destroyer :(

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

Let's leave speculation aside for now. I'm more interested in the countdown. Although I have a sneaking suspicion I know who les winner could be.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

pj harvey anyone?

alex in mainhattan, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:09 (fourteen years ago)

who?

prolego, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:09 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/6ud1O.jpg

77. When Saints Go Machine — Konkylie (258 points, 10 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 418

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J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 16:11 (fourteen years ago)

Hooray, just got here in time! One idea I had: the tracks poll is always fun because people can listen along in real time but obviously if you haven't heard an album before it's not as easy to check it out in the space of 10 minutes. So maybe for each album that charts, someone who voted for or otherwise digs the album could link to (not embed) a representative track on Youtube or Soundcloud?

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:11 (fourteen years ago)

Glad this made it! Surprised as the low placing though :(

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:11 (fourteen years ago)

what is this

ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:12 (fourteen years ago)

i gave this one a listen at ned's behest last year. it was okay as i remember, but i never went back to it.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:12 (fourteen years ago)

Here's the track "Chestnut" from the album (my favorite one): http://soundcloud.com/when-saints-go-machine/chestnut

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:13 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, what is this? I saw the name mentioned in the singles poll. Somehow I'm reluctant to check it out...

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:14 (fourteen years ago)

I wonder if anything I voted for will place?
Also seandalai that is a good idea.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:14 (fourteen years ago)

i really liked this at first but then it was kind of diminishing returns. this might still have been near the bottom of my ballot tho, can't remember

donna rouge, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:14 (fourteen years ago)

Haha, my number 1. Would have been so sad if it hadn't placed, although I'm kind of disappointed it didn't place any higher than this. It's a beautiful, perfect record for me. I remember coming home after little sleep, hungover about 11am and putting it on and just listening to it in the dark from beginning to end. I maintain that's the optimal situation to hear it in. A few more thoughts about this written for the Quietus

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:14 (fourteen years ago)

well at least we get to discuss 76 nice records before the gushing over an album of faux-emotional warbling and caterwauling.

skip, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:15 (fourteen years ago)

This is an excellent start - I missed it last year but have been playing it over the last week and it's fantastic.

Matt DC, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:15 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEvnsKdP2m0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfefYDZvDKk

The whole thing's great, and it's best heard as a piece, but here are two highlights

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:16 (fourteen years ago)

I liked Konkylie a lot! Didn't go back to it as much as I thought I would at first, but it's a lovely and interesting record.

The kind of thing I'm glad to see sneak in at 77 even if it isn't Top 25 of the year for me or anything.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:16 (fourteen years ago)

NO EMBEDDING! xp

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:16 (fourteen years ago)

a couple solid tracks on this one. I like the industrial+balearic/chillwave elements even if it doesn't hold up for me over the whole album.

skip, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:17 (fourteen years ago)

can we not throw a million youtubes in here or make sure that they're links not embeds? thx.

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:17 (fourteen years ago)

agh can we just post links to youtubes not embeds please? i fear for my browser otherwise

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:17 (fourteen years ago)

oh sorry JF - don't know how to unimbed

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:17 (fourteen years ago)

aw dang it's the actual album covers not ms paint versions :(

nathey, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:17 (fourteen years ago)

unembbed?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:17 (fourteen years ago)

prediction katy b and pj harvey are the top 2

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:18 (fourteen years ago)

This sort of sounds to me like a more sincere version of Autre Ne Veut crossed with Anthony.

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:18 (fourteen years ago)

Although, lol I forgot about the lyrical namechecking of Linden trees.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:18 (fourteen years ago)

oh sorry JF - don't know how to unimbed

either the short version of the youtube link or use the bbcode

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:18 (fourteen years ago)

To NOT embed youtube links, click on the "Share" button below the video and copy the short url it provides. Short urls do not auto-embed on ILX.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:18 (fourteen years ago)

k, got it - no more vids.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:19 (fourteen years ago)

The "Kelly" video above may be the best of the year, despite all the skin crawling creepiness.

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:19 (fourteen years ago)

oh beyonce will be top 3. maybe even the winner

Beyonce
Katy B
PJ Harvey

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:19 (fourteen years ago)

The Kelly video is basically Black Swan with all the fat trimmed off, right?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

Let's refrain from talking about the top 3 this early, shall we?

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

Serious Arthur Russell vibes too...

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

xpost ^^ this

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

i was just trying reassure lex that Destroyer has no chance of winning

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

Save us Johnny Fever!

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

no mention of derulo yet. probably because of cross voting between spelling his name with and without an umlaut.

nathey, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:22 (fourteen years ago)

considering it got 10 votes and a first placer, WSGM is pretty low. the following 76 had better blow my MIND!

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:22 (fourteen years ago)

First impression: I like a lot of the ingredients, and it's obvious why ILM would go for it, but I'm not really taken with any of the songs I've heard so far.

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:22 (fourteen years ago)

i fully expect braids to finish #52 to #50.

nathey, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:23 (fourteen years ago)

silence as netizens try to think of their #52 to #50 predictions

nathey, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:26 (fourteen years ago)

whenever someone mentions that band i have to retrain myself that they're not talking about the emo band from the 90s.

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:26 (fourteen years ago)

I can't even remember what I voted for. I don't think I really got into many albums last year.

That said, it would be nice for some artists that were absent from the singles vote: Gucci Mane, Peaking Lights, Tim Hecker, Laurel Halo, Metronomy, Braids, Oneohtrix Point Never, Maria Minerva, maybe Art Department...

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:28 (fourteen years ago)

or the r&b duo who did the 'bohemian rhapsody' cover in the '90s xp

donna rouge, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:28 (fourteen years ago)

...and LMFAO of course! ;)

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:30 (fourteen years ago)

j0rdan is the rollout finishing thursday like the tracks poll or friday?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

i'm cool with whatever

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 16:33 (fourteen years ago)

thu worked well i think - as someone said on the trax thread, by the time you get to the top 10 there likely won't be any surprises by the order left, so no point holding it back

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:34 (fourteen years ago)

i think its more to do with those leaving work on a friday not seeing results til monday

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

i gave this one a listen at ned's behest last year. it was okay as i remember, but i never went back to it.

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend)

yeah this^. checked out the thread on this band after someone mentioned them somewhere recently and was surprised to see i had posted positively in it but had completely forgotten them in the intervening months

rob, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

but im happy going with whatevers best for j0rdan

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

I would have voted Konkylie higher were I to redo my ballot. It's really a fantastic album, full of a little bit of everything for everyone (conventional synth pop numbers like "Kelly", slightly skewed synth pop numbers like "Church and Law", wobbly mood pieces like "The Same Scissors", compositional music nerd freakouts like "Konkylie" and "Add Ends").

Weirdly, the singer sounds just like Antony but for whatever reason I do not want to pull out his esophagus and strangle him with it. I suspect it's because he's getting better support from his backing music.

Haven't seen the video for "Kelly" but "Add Ends" is great:

http://youtu.be/eQby5ZsopR8

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/OhVu2.jpg

76. Robag Wruhme — Thora Vukk (262 points, 8 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 392

Spotify

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 16:38 (fourteen years ago)

I have no idea what this is

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:38 (fourteen years ago)

me neither...

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

nor me

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

to me konkylie's one of these records with so many little musical "bits" that only reveal themselves after a few listens - the only thing I can compare it to is Boards Of Canada's Geogaddi in that respect.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

I had come up w/ a list of possible #1 placers:

PJ Harvey
Beyonce
Katy B
Destroyer
Tim Hecker

(I've changed my mind about TH, and now will be v impressed if he makes top 10...)

Xp ha! Never heard of #76: is this poll going to be awesome?

non, je ned raggette rien (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

ah that robag wruhme record was lovely! not on my ballot but happy to see it place. useful when hungover

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

Weirdly, the singer sounds just like Antony but for whatever reason I do not want to pull out his esophagus and strangle him with it.

This. I've never enjoyed Anthony's singing, but I'm actually drawn to this.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

ok this is...kind of folktronica?

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

I have some Robag Wrhume from about 2004/5 and it was really good - sort of IDM house. What's his latest stuff like?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

you just put me off checking it out seandalai

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

i listened to this once and have no memory of it other than that it was nice. he had a good mix out this year too

donna rouge, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

What the vukk?

John Gaw Meme (_Rudipherous_), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

it's kind of pastoral techno, very immersive, kind of border communityesque

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

Yessssss, was hoping that would place. Really beautiful example of what we used to call microhouse back in the day - lush strings, disembodied child voices, I've played it all year without getting tired of it.

Matt DC, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

I tried hard to get into Konkylie, but I always got bored after the first two tracks (which I love!). also, closer was nice, as far as I remember.

V79, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

was going to post that I just listened to the first half of Konkylie on Spotify, and the first two tracks do seem to stand above the rest

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

This sounds like something I would love were I listening to it outside of the context of a countdown of the 77 best albums of the year; as it stands, it's just sort of pleasant? It seems to be put together well and has a good sense of build and release, but the restraint is not what I want to listen to right now (nb this is all based on the first track, the whole album might erupt into a techstep facemelter later on for all I know)

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:45 (fourteen years ago)

it's kind of pastoral techno, very immersive, kind of border communityesque

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:43 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

sold

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:46 (fourteen years ago)

There's a lot going on it it, but it's not really a dancefloor album, I've mostly listened to it as a late night thing while reading, in the way I would with Pantha Du Prince or someone.

Matt DC, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:46 (fourteen years ago)

There are some lovely, very crystalline sounding tracks on that album, maybe along the same lines as Pantha Du Prince? Didn't vote for it in the end though cos those bridging pieces in between the main tracks were a bit of a drag.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:47 (fourteen years ago)

good comparison with pantha du prince, even more atmospheric. I'm sure he could gussy it up for the dance floor though.

skip, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:47 (fourteen years ago)

Oh he's one half of Wighnomy Brothers who are masters of gussying it up for the dance floor.

Matt DC, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:48 (fourteen years ago)

Ha, I think on the sandbox when talking about big hip-hop tracks this year, I made a comment about 2011 being the year that music stopped being real and started being polite; these first two albums seem to hold up that thesis pretty well.

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:49 (fourteen years ago)

76. Robag Wruhme — Thora Vukk (262 points, 8 votes)

really enjoying this

Rotary Boy of the Month (WmC), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:50 (fourteen years ago)

xpost don't know if 2011 is the year that happened man.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:50 (fourteen years ago)

it's the year that everyone spent in their bedrooms on the internet

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:50 (fourteen years ago)

I'm going to have to check this out now, also because of the comparison with Pantha du Prince!

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

xp I've been doing that for years, glad the world caught up...

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

Depends on whether you're listening to polite music or not. I don't think I really like this stuff that much. PDP is ok, but kinda shiny and dull at the same time imo.

Hoping for something loud at this end of the countdown.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

xposts like every year since 1999

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

I meant to listen to this, am a fan of his other work and even checked out Wuppdeckmischmampflow, but seem to have less and less enthusiasm for 'what we used to call microhouse back in the day'...

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

I made a comment about 2011 being the year that music stopped being real and started being polite; these first two albums seem to hold up that thesis pretty well.

everyone be getting OLD

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:52 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/AoUNt.jpg

75. Liturgy — Aesthethica (264 points, nine votes)

P4K: 41
P&J: 88

Spotify

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

hahaha

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

politeness just got the shit kicked out of it!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

Guessing this counts as "something loud".

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

Speaking of nice and loud. Hey, I still haven't listened to Liturgy.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

lol I fucked up that quote, it's GETTING real isn't it

Real World fanboy badge revoked

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

hey! there we go!
i didn't vote for it, but it's loud and fairly impolite.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

Metal, I'm assuming?

Matt DC, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

the cover could be a witch house album

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:55 (fourteen years ago)

I like that cover design a lot.

tumblring dice (crüt), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:56 (fourteen years ago)

crossover/hipster black metal is better than none at all

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:56 (fourteen years ago)

I am cracking up though that the first minute of this loud, impolite album is a soft note played over and over though

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:56 (fourteen years ago)

needs more triangles in the artist name

nathey, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:56 (fourteen years ago)

Matt DC - Liturgy are a black metal band who've caused controversy because they dress like hipsters and try to unravel the usual black metal tropes of being Norwegian and dressing like a Vril-Ya. I still haven't heard it, but it's supposed to be good.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

Metal, I'm assuming?

― Matt DC,

transcendental black metal

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

wiki

Liturgy are a self-described "transcedent black metal" band from Brooklyn, New York. Originally the solo project of Hunter Hunt-Hendrix, the band expanded to a four piece in 2008, after the release of the 12" Immortal Life, which was followed in 2009 with their debut album Renihilation. The group call their style "transcendental black metal",[1][2] which is described in a declaration written by Hunt-Hendrix.[3] Hunter cites Swans, Glenn Branca, Alexander Scriabin, Iannis Xenakis and Lightning Bolt as influences.[4]

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

the cover could be a witch house album

haha witch house was the first thing i thought of

happy 4 the metal crü

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

Save us J0rdan Fever!

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

"Hunter Hunt Hendrix" sounds like a Gossip Girl character/actor but his name isn't his fault.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

http://youtu.be/qciRxrlTFGc

^ Liturgy - Generation

(I didn't vote for this btw, but that was the best track imo)

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

here is a jaunty excerpt of Hunter Hunt-Hendrix's Trancendental Black Metal theory

PROLEGOMENON

One could propose a new meaning for black metal along with a new array of techniques to activate that meaning. The meaning of Transcendental Black Metal is Affirmation, and its new technique is the Burst Beat.
The will to power has two stages. The first may be called Fortification; the establishment of a paradigm or set of rules and the ensuing exploration of potential that lies within those constraints. The second stage may be termed Sacrifice; an auto-destruction, a self-overcoming whereby the initial rules, having been fully digested and satisfied, are thereby mutilated. They are transformed into the basis for something new and unprecedented.
Transcendental Black Metal is black metal in the mode of Sacrifice. It is a clearing aside of contingent features and a fresh exploration of the essence of black metal. As such it is solar, hypertrophic, courageous, finite and penultimate. Its tone is Affirmation and its key technique is the Burst Beat.
The black metal that was born in Scandinavia in the mode of Fortification can be termed Hyperborean Black Metal. Hyperborean Black Metal is lunar, atrophic, depraved, infinite and pure. The symbol of its birth is the Death of Dead. Its tone is Nihilism and its key technique is the Blast Beat.
Today USBM stands in the shadow of Hyperborean Black Metal. The time has come for a decisive break with the European tradition and the establishment of a truly American black metal. And we should say “American” rather than “US”: the US is a declining empire; America is an eternal ideal representing human dignity, hybridization and creative evolution.
The act of renihilation is the betrayal of Hyperborean Black Metal and an affirmation of Transcendental Black Metal. And it is at the same time the constitution of an apocalyptic humanism to be termed Aesthetics. As such, the question of Transcendental Black Metal is only the tip of an iceberg at the base of which is hidden a new relationship between art, politics, ethics and religion.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:00 (fourteen years ago)

Played Konkylie a couple of times after a friend raved about it, liked it quite a lot.

Voted for Thora Vukk. Heavily played throughout the year, never tired of it, good holiday memories attached.

mike t-diva, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:00 (fourteen years ago)

the only 'metal' album i heard last year prior to the ILM Metal Poll. It's p good.

pandemic, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:00 (fourteen years ago)

xxxp:
It comes with a manifesto on Transcendental Black Metal.

Transcendental Black Metal is a Renihilation, a “No” to the entire array of Negations, which turns to an affirmation of the continuity of all things

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:00 (fourteen years ago)

prolego-memnon?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:00 (fourteen years ago)

I have like zero interest in black metal, apparently. I don't even dislike this, it just is making zero impression on me.

Like, there is no way this album should aurally scan as "beige, forgettable" to me but there you go.

I think the issue I have with a lot of how black metal is constructed/presented is that it's a LOT of effort put into playing what is ultimately a relatively simple song/melody; like on this first track, everything is played on like 32nd notes but it's all subdivision of a really really really simple tune that's not particularly interesting or impressive, so my end reaction is "eh, why bother with all that?"

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:01 (fourteen years ago)

It's like Dr Bronner meets the Maharishi School of Management.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:01 (fourteen years ago)

"eh, why bother with all that?"
mood music? i dunno, why bother with anything?

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:02 (fourteen years ago)

lol and then they follow up with a big chanty thing, which erupts into another simple tune chopped up into 32nd notes. It's like the musical equivalent of the moment when Scooby-Doo is running in place away from a monster, legs all awhirl and dust and smoke getting kicked up but he's not going anywhere, stretched out over a five minute period.

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:03 (fourteen years ago)

(structurally this is reminding me of some of the Baltic pieces we did in our last choral concert, only more static)

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

Decent black metal can be pretty complex, musically speaking - lots of time signature changes etc...

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

that literal scooby-doo sound effect looped over five minutes would be more "up my alley" than this Liturgy album, but I like this okay too.

tumblring dice (crüt), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

why bother with anything?

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

depressed now

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

can someone point me in the direction of some Morton Feldmanesque black metal?

tumblring dice (crüt), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

I like the intro of Tragic Laurel, it sounds like Philip Glass

tumblring dice (crüt), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:06 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/sa2WL.jpg

74. The Joy Formidable — The Big Roar (266 points, seven votes, one first place vote)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 58

Spotify

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 17:07 (fourteen years ago)

the song that placed in tracks was way too landfillesque for me - any chance I'll like the album?

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:08 (fourteen years ago)

This Robag Wruhme album is really nice. Is the name an anagram for something or just German?

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:08 (fourteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/48/Slayer-GodHatesUsAll-WhiteSleeve.jpg/220px-Slayer-GodHatesUsAll-WhiteSleeve.jpg

naughty naughty very naughty

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:08 (fourteen years ago)

lol so to completely contradict what I just said re: Liturgy, the thing I dug the most about the song that placed on the track countdown was the shoegazy outro; interested to hear if that sensibility runs through other songs on the album

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:08 (fourteen years ago)

seandalai: I've only heard the Joy Formidable album once, but my guess is that if you didn't like "Whirring," you won't like the album.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:09 (fourteen years ago)

My biggest problem with that Liturgy (and most black metal) is the quality of sound. If I'm in a metal mood then I want to listen to it LOUD, but this stuff is best set at like 2 on the volume knob, otherwise its completely blown out.

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

I didn't vote for Joy Formidable, but it has its moments. It's a crying shame that only Yuck and JF contend in the British hard-rock (non-punk/metal) stakes these days. But where Yuck are hazy and nostalgic, I hear JF as being big and powerful (love that guitar sound). I don't know which nineties rock band I'd be tempted to compare them with - part of me wants to say early Manics without the lyrics. Anyway, the album's got maybe 4 good songs, the rest is a bit forgettable. I still love A Heavy Abacus, particularly that Glastonbury performance.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

I should give The Joy Formidable another chance. Didn't love the track we covered at Jukebox but it seems to be one of the consensus picks of indie rock this year.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

I haven't heard any of these... The Joy Formidable tracks on the poll were alright I suppose. I also remembered that they were on Conan one night last year.

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

I really like the Joy Formidable's huge walls of screeching guitars but the songs themselves I can take or leave. Surprised that album wasn't higher, I thought they had a committed following on here.

Matt DC, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

Is it weird that the first song at least is coming across to me like a harder-edge School of Seven Bells?

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

love the last track on the joy formidable album a lot

http://youtu.be/84yRe--OJ00

pandemic, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:12 (fourteen years ago)

Joy Formidable remind me of that era between Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie when the Pumpkins were still figuring out just how big of an arena band they wanted to become.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:12 (fourteen years ago)

JF and liturgy both on my ballot :D

donna rouge, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:13 (fourteen years ago)

love that liturgy album.

I think the issue I have with a lot of how black metal is constructed/presented is that it's a LOT of effort put into playing what is ultimately a relatively simple song/melody; like on this first track, everything is played on like 32nd notes but it's all subdivision of a really really really simple tune that's not particularly interesting or impressive, so my end reaction is "eh, why bother with all that?"

what's wrong with a simple melody/progression? it's all about execution, and the major chords + huge wash of sound guitars + the rubato-but-still-in-tempo drumming approach really works for me.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

another album that's good in small doses.

skip, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

is "generation" the long instrumental one that's kind of more math-rock than metal? that's my favorite one. love this album.
xpost about liturgy but i love the joy formidable album too. really good guitars.

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

I have a feeling JF will go supernova on their next album - what's to stop them?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

though i wish the joy formidable album didn't have the one song where the dude sings. it's really boring and i don't know why they bothered.

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:16 (fourteen years ago)

Re: The Joy Formidable
The four songs reprised from the 2009's A Balloon Called Moaning EP were sharper in their "original" version. The album production veers too far into stadium-rock for its own good.

Still TJF captures an early 90's sound like few bands since. Think Tanya Donelly of Belly fronting gazy lads like Swervedriver. Pure nostalgia treat for me.

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:16 (fourteen years ago)

I saw Joy Formidable live in 2010. They weren't for me, and what I've heard by them since has confirmed this several times over.

mike t-diva, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:16 (fourteen years ago)

they need to replace all that guitar work with keane style pianos

nathey, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:16 (fourteen years ago)

The four songs reprised from the 2009's A Balloon Called Moaning EP were sharper in their "original" version.

maybe it's because i heard the album before the ep but i don't agree with this at all, would much rather hear the album versions which are humongous. "whirring" esp. on the ep just seems like a rough draft to me.

donna rouge, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:17 (fourteen years ago)

Joy Formidable still suffers from a bit of a marketing problem, I think -- terrible band name, overzealous inane tweeting (imo), not mysterious enough --> can add up to "blah" for some people. Still, I like their sound and I think Ritzy has a lovely voice well suited for this type of music.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:18 (fourteen years ago)

is "generation" the long instrumental one that's kind of more math-rock than metal? that's my favorite one. love this album.
xpost about liturgy but i love the joy formidable album too. really good guitars.

― congratulations (n/a), Monday, January 30, 2012 12:15 PM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm even the non-metal ppl should listen to "generation" because you'll either love it or be driven insane by it.

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:18 (fourteen years ago)

is "generation" the long instrumental one that's kind of more math-rock than metal? that's my favorite one

yeah it's definitely the high point, even though it's a one-off and not really "what they do". so good.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:18 (fourteen years ago)

btw i know i can't complain since i ignored all the nominations stuff, but i'm pretty sure none of my favorite albums from this year were even nominated (except for liturgy).

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:19 (fourteen years ago)

imo the drummer is the star on that Liturgy record

☂⋒ﬡᙓ-૪ᗩᖇᖙᔕ - ᙡ ᖺ ᗝ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:21 (fourteen years ago)

is "generation" the long instrumental one that's kind of more math-rock than metal? that's my favorite one. love this album.
xpost about liturgy but i love the joy formidable album too. really good guitars.

― congratulations (n/a), Monday, January 30, 2012 12:15 PM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm even the non-metal ppl should listen to "generation" because you'll either love it or be driven insane by it.

― call all destroyer, Monday, January 30, 2012 5:18 PM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Happen to be listening to this now and it's not bad at all...the rest of the album (so far) is interesting enough but exhausting for my ears.

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:21 (fourteen years ago)

Is the name an anagram for something or just German?

― jaymc, Monday, January 30, 2012

Robag's real name is Gabor

Cashmere Combabe, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:21 (fourteen years ago)

what's wrong with a simple melody/progression? it's all about execution, and the major chords + huge wash of sound guitars + the rubato-but-still-in-tempo drumming approach really works for me.

That's great! The thing is, you glossed over the more important "not particularly interesting or impressive" qualifier to focus somewhat unfairly on the "really simple tune" part. I'm not convinced by the presentation more than anything else.

btw listening to "Generation" right now and already from the get-go this is way more my type of thing

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:22 (fourteen years ago)

Not really that taken with robag as a producer, though he can be a great DJ. LP passed me by

Cashmere Combabe, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:22 (fourteen years ago)

granted i dont listen to a lot of metal, but the speed at which he hits the snare drum in that first song just blows my mind

☂⋒ﬡᙓ-૪ᗩᖇᖙᔕ - ᙡ ᖺ ᗝ Ḱ ᓰ ᒪ ᒪ (diamonddave85), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:22 (fourteen years ago)

also: Ritzy = Oh so cuet.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:23 (fourteen years ago)

Sorry, Liturgy is reminding me of Monty Python's "Death of Mary Queen of Scots" sketch.

BANG WALLOP RATTLE SCREECH
"ah think she's deid"
"no i'm not"
BANG WALLOP RATTLE SCREECH

mike t-diva, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:23 (fourteen years ago)

...but, um, not without merit...

mike t-diva, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:23 (fourteen years ago)

Listened to about 75% of the tracks poll, not going to do that with LPs will just comment on anything I've actually heard

Cashmere Combabe, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:24 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/dRes5.jpg

73. Jay-Z & Kanye West — Watch the Throne (266 points, 10 votes)

P4K: 21
P&J: 3

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J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 17:25 (fourteen years ago)

IT'S PROVOCATIVE!

pandemic, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:26 (fourteen years ago)

:D

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:26 (fourteen years ago)

Lololololol

Matt DC, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:26 (fourteen years ago)

Surprised that didn't place higher.

Moodles, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

I still haven't heard WTT. I didn't like the Diddy record or MBDTF very much, so I'm kind of sceptical about this one... Do you guyses reckon I should give it a go?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

yes

Moodles, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

also still haven't heard this

donna rouge, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

Listening to the Liturgy album again and enjoying it a lot more this time round. Aside from the more experimental sounding tracks (which are great!), one good thing about it is the (relatively) short song length instead of all that epic-build fannydangle that dogs a lot of black metal.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

When I finally got around to hearing WTT, I was surprised at how much I enjoyed it. Really wasn't expecting much from it.

Moodles, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

xxpost okay - think i have it knocking around so I'll try it.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

what a terrible album cover!

skip, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

wow, really surprised WTT isn't higher. Thought it'd be like top 20

I chipped a tooth on the buttbone (askance johnson), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

I still haven't heard WTT. I didn't like the Diddy record or MBDTF very much, so I'm kind of sceptical about this one... Do you guyses reckon I should give it a go?

At least listen to "No Church In The Wild", "Ni**as In Paris" and "New Day".

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

there's some pretty good stuff on 'watch the throne' and it sounds huge and expensive and all that good stuff, but a lot of the time the rapping just isn't all that great

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 17:29 (fourteen years ago)

never change ilm

prolego, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:29 (fourteen years ago)

"gotta have it" and the singles are classics, and yeah "new day" & "no church in the wild" are dope

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 17:29 (fourteen years ago)

there's some pretty good stuff on 'watch the throne' and it sounds huge and expensive and all that good stuff, but a lot of the time the rapping just isn't all that great

in fairness, this is almost always because of Kanye

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:30 (fourteen years ago)

yes, that is true

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 17:31 (fourteen years ago)

wow, way lower I would ever expect it to place

V79, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:31 (fourteen years ago)

lulz #73

i do love "niggas in paris" (erm minus kanye) but i didn't think it was a remarkable album otherwise - occasionally good beats, bit of a slog overall, kanye is mostly supremely annoying

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

basically I feel like ppl punished this album because My Beautiful Dark Twisted Terrible Horrible No Good Very Bad Fantasy was overpraised

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:33 (fourteen years ago)

there's some pretty good stuff on 'watch the throne' and it sounds huge and expensive and all that good stuff, but a lot of the time the rapping just isn't all that great

― J0rdan S., Monday, January 30, 2012 11:29 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

pretty much agree with this although i often enjoy kanye's terrible raps just because o_O/hilarity

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:33 (fourteen years ago)

well at least we get to discuss 76 nice records before the gushing over an album of faux-emotional warbling and caterwauling.

― skip, Monday, January 30, 2012 4:15 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Depending on your taste this could apply to every potential winner except Katy B.

Meme Rogers (DL), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:34 (fourteen years ago)

I still haven't heard WTT. I didn't like the Diddy record or MBDTF very much, so I'm kind of sceptical about this one... Do you guyses reckon I should give it a go?

― I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, January 30, 2012 12:27 PM (19 seconds ago)

well they're all hip-hop, if you didn't like one, you surely won't like the others

re: WTT, appropriate placing for that very mediocre album

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:34 (fourteen years ago)

it sounds huge and expensive and all that good stuff

idk it sounds expensive as in it sounds like it cost a lot of money - it doesn't sound expensive in the GREAT way, ie opulent and fabulous - cf this, which is the most opulent hip-hop beat i've heard in some time

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:34 (fourteen years ago)

there are also points where Kanye does go all the way through o_O and back into "okay I can fuck with that" territory but I'll be fucked if I can name any of them off the top of my head

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:35 (fourteen years ago)

idk there's def some beats on WTT that sound expensive AND great

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 17:36 (fourteen years ago)

Liturgy was #17 in metal poll.
I don't know if there's any more 'metal' to come but if you want to check where it placed in the metal poll click here on the poll results/stats on needle Which Glenn does and is awesome.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:36 (fourteen years ago)

i unabashedly love kanye just as a personality/celebrity/entity

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:36 (fourteen years ago)

as an addition to P&J/P4k placings.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:37 (fourteen years ago)

jesus i really like the first song on this joy formidable album, guitars are just huge

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:38 (fourteen years ago)

i was listening to the college dropout earlier today and just thinking, goddamn how can anyone give a shit about my beautiful dark stupid fantasy

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:39 (fourteen years ago)

yeah it's weird how people can like two things that are different

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:40 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/jHDCT.jpg

72. Barbara Panther — Barbara Panther (270 points, seven votes, two first place votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: DNP

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J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 17:40 (fourteen years ago)

Barbara Panther

ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:41 (fourteen years ago)

YAY my #2

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:41 (fourteen years ago)

hooray, my first place vote!! <3 tho tbh, since submitting my ballot i think i've fallen for tune-yards more, but really happy to see this make the top 77.

ban opinions (reddening), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:42 (fourteen years ago)

I've only listened to the one song from the tracks poll, but I love this kind of thing. Much more realistic interpretation of the New York early-80s L.E.S. scene than things like the Rapture or LCD Soundsystem. Been wanting to hear something that melts up that no-wave/hiphop/disco crossover for a while now.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:43 (fourteen years ago)

love the opening lines of "voodoo" so much, particularly her intonation of "wa wa wa wa WITCH!"

ban opinions (reddening), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

This is such a great album. Only heard it in December and ended up putting it in my top 10.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

Likewise. Wish I'd spent more of the year with it.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

i mentioned it in the tracks thread, but i really dig the sonic contradictions within "dizzy," A LOT

ban opinions (reddening), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:46 (fourteen years ago)

WTT is way better than MBDLMFAOF and it still didn't earn my vote. I am fine with this placement.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:46 (fourteen years ago)

Great cover on the B. Panther.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:47 (fourteen years ago)

it is kinda weird that even despite a lot of ILX not feeling MBDTF it still placed at #7 last year (and even that was amusingly low), wheres WTT...#73 is nowhere for an album/artists of that profile

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:48 (fourteen years ago)

I can dig Barbara Panther

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:48 (fourteen years ago)

Looks like that horrible Yeasayer cover xxp

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:49 (fourteen years ago)

xxp: that is not weird at all, that is a fantastic example of "backlash" as I stated before

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:49 (fourteen years ago)

LCD NewsomSystem

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

enjoying this babs panther album

I chipped a tooth on the buttbone (askance johnson), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:53 (fourteen years ago)

yeah this is good

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:53 (fourteen years ago)

She isn't nearly as raspy as Joanna Newsom.

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:54 (fourteen years ago)

Close enough to turn me off.

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/tu9XH.jpg

71. Toro y Moi - Underneath the Pine (271 points, nine votes)

P4K: 48
P&J: 146

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J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 17:56 (fourteen years ago)

that is the worst fucking album cover I have ever seen

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:58 (fourteen years ago)

in one ear, out the other

donna rouge, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:58 (fourteen years ago)

That is one horrible album cover. (xpost)

Matt DC, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:58 (fourteen years ago)

i like Underneath the Pine but i don't really have anything to say about it. it just kind of exists

ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

(circumventing the moist-stache entirely)

donna rouge, Monday, 30 January 2012 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, not sure if I even want to listen to that toro y moi album because the cover makes me want to barf

I chipped a tooth on the buttbone (askance johnson), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

This is one of the joys of listening to music in a digital age, guys. I love the Toro y Moi album (it was in my top 5) and didn't even remember that the cover looked like that.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:01 (fourteen years ago)

i feel like toro y moi always place somewhere in the low end or middle of ilx polls and bore me in exactly the same way every time

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:01 (fourteen years ago)

I love that cover! Another one I enjoyed but didn't vote for.

Toro Y Moi - Elise (live version)
http://youtu.be/n7rmUQk6SME

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:01 (fourteen years ago)

Standout track on the Toro y Moi is "Still Sound":
http://youtu.be/0Gqh4e1S6j0

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:02 (fourteen years ago)

i always feel like a freak when people go on about that cover being to gross/terrible because i actually find it kind of arresting.

ryan, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:02 (fourteen years ago)

a cover only buffandmaxsmom could love

ban opinions (reddening), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:03 (fourteen years ago)

lol

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:04 (fourteen years ago)

it is terrible/gross but i assume that's the point.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:07 (fourteen years ago)

alright this next one is gonna be the last one for like an hour or so while i get ready for work and head over, will pick up from there

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 18:07 (fourteen years ago)

doesn't make it a bad cover imho. i hate looking at it - but that could also make it good?!
xpost

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:08 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, I'm sure they meant the cover to be awful and foul, but that still doesn't mean I have to like it

I chipped a tooth on the buttbone (askance johnson), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:09 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/r5VB1.jpg

(tie) 69. Wild Flag — Wild Flag (273 points, 10 votes)

P4K: 49
P&J: 4

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J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 18:10 (fourteen years ago)

btw the wild flag cover is 1000x worse than the toro y moi one

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 18:10 (fourteen years ago)

ha otm

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:11 (fourteen years ago)

outstanding record, don't get the cover but i sort of like it for some reason.

omar little, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:11 (fourteen years ago)

Wait, I thought we*weren't doing the MS Paint versions of the album covers?

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:12 (fourteen years ago)

kind of feel like i don't love the wild flag album as much as i should but i should also spend more time with it, i think it's one of the albums i lost when my old hard drive crashed and i didn't redownload it

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:12 (fourteen years ago)

it's like a bloodstain making out with snuffaluffagus

omar little, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:13 (fourteen years ago)

I voted for the Wild Flag album -- it's not a masterpiece or anything, but it's really fun.

I chipped a tooth on the buttbone (askance johnson), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:14 (fourteen years ago)

^^cosign

ban opinions (reddening), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:20 (fourteen years ago)

Thought Toro Y Moi would be so much chillwave, but its actually excellent funky dreamy pop and totally doesn't deserve that tag. Elise is a grrrreat track.

I like that cover too.

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:23 (fourteen years ago)

haha i've literally just talking to my housemate (an illustrator) about how the art of the album cover has been lost

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:25 (fourteen years ago)

Thought Toro Y Moi would be so much chillwave

That was his deal at the very beginning, but he dropped it rather quickly.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:28 (fourteen years ago)

That Wild Flag album cover reminds me of Abacab by Genesis...

Glad to see Robag Wruhme place - one of the last things I checked out from the nominations list, absolutely loved it.

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:30 (fourteen years ago)

love the Toro Y Moi album ("How I Know" is a great song), also I love the cover - the most beautiful one I've seen all year and gonna stan for it 4eva.
hopefully Chaz finally will recover from the "chillwave" tag he's getting slapped upon, it's just unfair for him to be written off just like that by lazy journalism

V79, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:30 (fourteen years ago)

Actually played the Toro Y Moi quite a bit when it came out but completely forgot about it come the end of the year. It's perfectly pleasant.

Number None, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:31 (fourteen years ago)

Causers Of This was actually a better album IMO, I still regret I didn't give it #1 back in 2010 poll, as it would push it to the 77th place (afair)

V79, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

Toro was low on my ballot. "Still Sound" and "New Beat" are total jams

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

btw nothing has come up on this countdown which IMO is better than When Saints Go Machine

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:43 (fourteen years ago)

(I probably ranked WTT higher on my ballot but, as I said, I would bump WTT up several spots were I to redo it)

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:44 (fourteen years ago)

(er WSGM I mean, acronyms are the devil)

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:44 (fourteen years ago)

Nothing I voted for has come up yet but I've particularly enjoyed first listens to the Barbara Panther and Robag Wruhme albums, both of which might have had a shot at slipping in at the bottom of my ballot if I'd heard them earlier.

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

Didn't vote for it but glad Toro y Moi made it

non, je ned raggette rien (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:00 (fourteen years ago)

Loved the first Toro Y Moi album, I spent quite a bit of time with this one, but decided I'm not that into it in the end. 'How I Know' and 'New Beat' were cool tracks, but in general I thought the Freaking Out EP was better, kind of a return to form.

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:03 (fourteen years ago)

yup i voted for the EP; like the LP but not really enough to put it on my ballot

johnny crunch, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

alright y'all i'm back

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

the next album was one of NPR's faves of the year

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 19:16 (fourteen years ago)

oh wait nevermind that's the album after this one

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/bu7xL.jpg

(tie) 69. Low — C'Mon (273 points, 10 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 72

Spotify

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 19:22 (fourteen years ago)

They should put out a dance remix album and call it "C'mown!!!". I can think of at least one ILXor who'd buy that.

Anyway, I decided many years ago that I'm not really into Low, but I'll give this album a shot.

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:24 (fourteen years ago)

Starting to feel like there's a big difference in the music represented on this album poll...

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:26 (fourteen years ago)

Maybe I'm just growing out of my Low fandom after all thse years, but that album didn't do a whole lot for me.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:26 (fourteen years ago)

kind of remember liking some dance remix of Low...spring heel jack maybe?

rob, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:27 (fourteen years ago)

I didn't like it as much as Drums, but still some great tracks 'Try To Sleep' in particular.

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:28 (fourteen years ago)

xp yeah the Bombscare EP which is approx. 12 inches from my shoulder as I type

preferred the Retribution Gospel Choir album to this I think but Low still bring it live (or did last summer when I saw em)

Saltines of Pink - 'Whites Me Tumblr?' (DJ Mencap), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:29 (fourteen years ago)

I actually have some free time this week plus I voted in the albums poll so yeah, stoked for the madness and suchlike

Saltines of Pink - 'Whites Me Tumblr?' (DJ Mencap), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:31 (fourteen years ago)

glad Liturgy got some ILM shine, also Wild Flag but thought they'd be higher, maybe even top 30?

Saltines of Pink - 'Whites Me Tumblr?' (DJ Mencap), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:32 (fourteen years ago)

oh yeah, "c'mon" is the other album i loved that was nominated. "nothing but heart" is the keeper for me.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:33 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/wokGw.jpg

68. ILX Presents Lulu (276 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: DNP
P&J: DNP

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 19:34 (fourteen years ago)

lol

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:36 (fourteen years ago)

woooo

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:36 (fourteen years ago)

yaaaaay

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:38 (fourteen years ago)

which person who appeared on the album gave it their #1?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:38 (fourteen years ago)

lol J0rdan did you check the Low Spotify ling

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:40 (fourteen years ago)

linK wtf at my typing today

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:40 (fourteen years ago)

lol no, what did i do

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 19:40 (fourteen years ago)

I think it was Emil.y's number one pick.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

afaik every spotify link should be to a different kidz bop album, someone correct me if i'm wrong tho

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

haha xxp

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:42 (fourteen years ago)

spotify sent me to david bowie - low

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:42 (fourteen years ago)

oh, ha

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 19:42 (fourteen years ago)

i just assumed it was because I was outside usa and your link wasnt available here

but no
http://open.spotify.com/album/3cWU7pThOf8iew2epGbitE

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:43 (fourteen years ago)

Oh dear, that Spotify link is my fault - so much for automatic Spotify search...

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

The ilx album was my #13, I believe. Glad it placed in the poll, should have been higher. Some genius tracks on that album, well done guys.

Didn't really get around to listening to the Low album last year, what I heard sounded good but nowhere near their best stuff.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

very little so far that i'm familiar with

kanye/jay-z: good, but not a favorite
barbara panther: GREAT - should have voted for it but didn't :(
wild flag: one of the worst, flattest and most disappointing albums i heard this year, don't get the appeal at all

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:47 (fourteen years ago)

OK, here's a Collaborative Spotify playlist

mike t-diva, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:47 (fourteen years ago)

the lyrics on the new Low were pretty weak - too in-your-face and obvious. Occasionally it works ("esPESHally me") but more often it doesn't ("I'm nothing but heart" 40 times in a row). Some beautiful moments though, and one of my favorite live shows of the year.

skip, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/si8w5.jpg

67. Veronica Falls - Veronica Falls (282 points, 11 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 105

Spotfiy

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 19:49 (fourteen years ago)

did johnny go to 61 on day 1?

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 19:49 (fourteen years ago)

I like "Witches" from the Low album more than I've liked any Low song since the 90s.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:49 (fourteen years ago)

xp yes

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:49 (fourteen years ago)

i thin.k w.e wil.l se. a happ.y emil.y

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:50 (fourteen years ago)

YAY! I was thinking that it wouldn't place as the lowest stuff got so many votes.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:51 (fourteen years ago)

"Bad Feeling" is a jam

skip, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:51 (fourteen years ago)

this section of the countdown has been quite varied and great to see

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:51 (fourteen years ago)

(What is all this stuff?)

MikoMcha, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:52 (fourteen years ago)

first day is always my favourite of the eoy polls

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

veronica falls!! "misery" is my favorite, but really the whole thing is really solid. yaaay!

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

I voted for this!

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:55 (fourteen years ago)

This and ILXulu are probably going to be my only choices to place. Of course, I don't actually remember what else I voted for, so…

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:55 (fourteen years ago)

I'm happy to see Veronica Falls. Would never have heard of it or voted for it without emil.y and outloud, so thanks!

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:56 (fourteen years ago)

xp
i am glad that the low album made it. i am not too familiar with them but of what i heard c'mon was the most accessible and most enchanting album. i have seen them live twice and i guess they are maybe my favourite live band for the time being. there is this certain spiritual, charming, warm atmosphere at a low concert which i have never really felt at other concerts (lambchop came close once when they toured nixon). the album seems very easy to get into and for that i thought it was somehow a little on the light side at the beginning. but in the end it was the album i listened most to in 2011 and i never got tired of their seemingly simple harmonies and tunes. there is something holy about it.

alex in mainhattan, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:56 (fourteen years ago)

xp Yeah I was thinking this is kind of the first victory of the Outloud era

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:56 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, me too. I remember what I voted for though, and I can confirm that it will probably not make it if it hasn't yet. Still, Veronica Falls is extremely palatable and has that perfect balance of sweet and sour.

Totally an outloud victory!! And an Emil.y victory because I wouldn't have listened to this if not for her.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:57 (fourteen years ago)

I'd credit outloud with "Nyan Cat Theme" as well. xp

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:57 (fourteen years ago)

This probably isn't unique to Low, but did everyone who voted for "C'mon" see them live and get blown away?

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:57 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah Nyan counts too I guess.

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:58 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/LiGx1.jpg

66. Big K.R.I.T. - Return of 4Eva (288 points, 10 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 67

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 19:58 (fourteen years ago)

oh hey Veronica Falls is kind of awesome

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:59 (fourteen years ago)

xp

my fave song from low's c'mon was nightingale:

http://youtu.be/7bj4bcRh53c

alex in mainhattan, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:00 (fourteen years ago)

surprised to see the Veronica Falls album make the list. I thought this fit really well with a lot of the 90's stuff I used to be obsessed with, but then I played some tracks in an indiepop room on Turntable or wherever and people were not happy with me. my guess was that those people didn't really like noisy guitars.

fffv, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:02 (fourteen years ago)

then you need to come in outloud.fm

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:02 (fourteen years ago)

Veronica Falls is pastichey, but it's such a pitch-perfect modern take on '60s death records, for me.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:03 (fourteen years ago)

This Veronica Falls album is thoroughly enjoyable.

I chipped a tooth on the buttbone (askance johnson), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:03 (fourteen years ago)

yeah what were you doing on turntable

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

I posted a track from it in the Chicago thread once but no one ever responded ;_;

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

i think i really don't "get" ilx taste anymore

junior dada (thomp), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:05 (fourteen years ago)

someone tell me where tim hecker is going to place so i can triangulate

junior dada (thomp), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:05 (fourteen years ago)

Tim Hecker will be @ #17

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:06 (fourteen years ago)

?

Nothing posted so far is really "out there" (except maybe Liturgy, but ILX has always had a metal underbelly). xps

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:06 (fourteen years ago)

yeah what were you doing on turntable

as I remember it, Outloud required me to have access to the actual files, which meant I was rarely in a place where I could use it. if this is inaccurate, please feel free to correct me elsewhere.

fffv, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:07 (fourteen years ago)

You can post tracks from Soundcloud now too.

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:07 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/ndvxN.jpg

65. The Psychic Paramount - II (290 points, 9 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 132

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 20:07 (fourteen years ago)

yesssssssssssssssssssss

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:08 (fourteen years ago)

one of my favorite albums of the year

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:08 (fourteen years ago)

I guess I should've voted in this so that I could complain that the Big K.R.I.T. is TOO LOW

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:09 (fourteen years ago)

oh cool

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:09 (fourteen years ago)

quality cover!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:09 (fourteen years ago)

Surprised KRIT was so low. I'd have thought that was one of the consensus raps albums of the year.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:09 (fourteen years ago)

PP II is a great album, for which I voted

I chipped a tooth on the buttbone (askance johnson), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:10 (fourteen years ago)

one of my favorite albums of the year

what's a good track to check out

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:10 (fourteen years ago)

Wow! surprised to see Psychic Paramount make it. Happy, but sincerely surprised.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:10 (fourteen years ago)

btw i somehow missed the voting for this so whenever i say i like an album just imagine that it's a couple of places higher on the list

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:10 (fourteen years ago)

Yay! to The Psychic Paramount.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:10 (fourteen years ago)

Have been meaning to check this out for ages, but it's not on Spotify...can anyone point to a track or two on Soundcloud/Youtube?

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

i totally missed the voting too :(
will not allow that to curb my opinions here, however.

xpost

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

xp wasn't a great year for rap albums really

ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

Woohoo, another one I voted for! This album really respects the sound of the inside of my head.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

as I remember it, Outloud required me to have access to the actual files, which meant I was rarely in a place where I could use it. if this is inaccurate, please feel free to correct me elsewhere.

― fffv, Monday, January 30, 2012 8:07 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

You can post tracks from Soundcloud now too.

― two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, January 30, 2012 8:07 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

You can, or you can also hang out and talk nonsense while letting other people pick some fine tunes for you to listen to.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

ha i don't really remember which tracks are which because they have really indistinct titles ... try this: http://youtu.be/4s1ppHxvzIg

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

Probably should have voted for that, but found it really exhausting to listen to all that much.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

hopefully that didn't embed

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

I didn't listen to Psychic Paramount enough to vote for it. Will give it more of a go now, I think.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

as I remember it, Outloud required me to have access to the actual files, which meant I was rarely in a place where I could use it. if this is inaccurate, please feel free to correct me elsewhere.

― fffv, Monday, January 30, 2012 8:07 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

You can post tracks from Soundcloud now too.

― two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, January 30, 2012 8:07 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

You can, or you can also hang out and talk nonsense while letting other people pick some fine tunes for you to listen to.

― emil.y, Monday, January 30, 2012 8:12 PM (16 seconds ago)

or you can listen to the stuff jeff plays

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:13 (fourteen years ago)

That Psychic Paramount record is fantastic!

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:13 (fourteen years ago)

gah i really need to listen to that record

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:14 (fourteen years ago)

i cut the psychic paramount from my ballot at the very end so glad it still placed

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:14 (fourteen years ago)

I posted a track from it in the Chicago thread once but no one ever responded ;_;

Sorry, don't remember it!

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:14 (fourteen years ago)

all this outloud talk and yet none of you folks are ever on there when i go on (except J3ff T who i suspect is on there 24/7)

when are the parties at??

ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:14 (fourteen years ago)

So have all the PP II voters chimed in already?

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:14 (fourteen years ago)

what's the name of the music style of the psychic paramount? post-rock-without-the-calm-part-before-the-crescendo?

alex in mainhattan, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:14 (fourteen years ago)

noise?

ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:15 (fourteen years ago)

psychedelic noise?

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:15 (fourteen years ago)

Usually a few (or more) people in there during evening hours my time (US Eastern).

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:15 (fourteen years ago)

midnight uk time -3am seems to be the busiest time in outloud. the house cru used to do before midnight but dunno where they all went the past few months.
bump the outloud thread and people will join though

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:15 (fourteen years ago)

ok thanks i think i must be showing up too late at night

ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:16 (fourteen years ago)

Hey, I voted for this too. What the hell?

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:16 (fourteen years ago)

they feel kinda math rock-y to me but with psychedelic overtones

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:17 (fourteen years ago)

outloud certainly changed jeff's taste in music

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:17 (fourteen years ago)

second time i've used the phrase "math rock" on this thread, apparently i'm really pining for the return of math rock

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:17 (fourteen years ago)

okay Psychic Paramount is fantastic

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:17 (fourteen years ago)

emil.y even turned him twee

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:18 (fourteen years ago)

DJP <--- hates metal, luvs math

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:18 (fourteen years ago)

Alright! we got DJP on board.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:18 (fourteen years ago)

So have all the PP II voters chimed in already?

― EZ Snappin, Monday, January 30, 2012 12:14 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

I voted for this one, it has a great sound and a continuous rolling swagger. A bit exhausting as a full listen though, I've mostly been playing individual tracks on my radio show and they work really well.

sleeve, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:18 (fourteen years ago)

listened to two psychic paramount tracks and i'm into it. kinda like a dronier, dancier tortoise, but harder & better than that sounds? actually i like it in some of the same ways i like liturgy.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:18 (fourteen years ago)

DJP loves Iron Maiden

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:18 (fourteen years ago)

C'mon is the first Low album I've really *loved* since Things We Lost In The Fire.

I'd assumed that Veronica Falls album was bullshit tweepop but maybe I should give it a shot.

Matt DC, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:19 (fourteen years ago)

Wait, people are talking about me on here. I'm confused! Why is this happening? And yeah, I used to have a pretty serious outloud addiction,but I'm trying to curb it.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:20 (fourteen years ago)

Heh, for some reason I assumed Veronica Falls was like some The Head and The Heart type folk that was made by dudes that were making Vagrant style emo four years ago.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:20 (fourteen years ago)

n/a, would I like Psychic Paramount?

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:21 (fourteen years ago)

the various designations of "metal" are seriously the most vexing thing to me

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:21 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/oixad.jpg

64. Wolves in the Throne Room - Celestial Lineage (290 points, nine votes, one first place vote)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 132

Spotify

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 20:21 (fourteen years ago)

"Veronica Falls" sounds like Hollywood sadcore to me.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:21 (fourteen years ago)

I just call(PP) mind blowing, loud psychedlic noise. I believe they were labelled post-rock in their formative years.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:22 (fourteen years ago)

See I like PP II as a full album because it maintains the heavy swirl and general noisy loud feeling for a sustained period. One track is great but it's more effort for me to get into- and then out of- that mood than it is to just kind of let it go for 40 min or so (or however long the album is, not sure exactly, am at work computer atm) I can see how people wouldn't have the patience for it, but that's part of what I like.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:22 (fourteen years ago)

Hollywood sadcore goes for the dreamy slow vibe, doesn't it? That's nothing like what V. Falls do.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:22 (fourteen years ago)

Metal cru representin'

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:23 (fourteen years ago)

nice timing djp (yay)

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:23 (fourteen years ago)

jaymc i don't think you would, it has some post-rock elements but it's probably too loud/abrasive ... but who knows?

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:23 (fourteen years ago)

ive been loving the WITTR lately (after i voted unfortunately). <3 the dead can danceisms in the first track

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:23 (fourteen years ago)

also the 'knife sharpening' sample in track 2 is pretty badass

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:24 (fourteen years ago)

i think i forgot to listen to the new WITR, is it significantly different from their other stuff?

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:24 (fourteen years ago)

the psychic paramount used to be Laddio Bolocko, who were one of my favourite bands. TPP doesnt disappoint at all.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:24 (fourteen years ago)

ooh i liked their last record but i tuned out metal completely this year so havent heard this one. sweet album title though

ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:24 (fourteen years ago)

Psychic Paramount are psych but they feel quite jazzrock in a high velocity Last Exit sort of way. huge xps

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:24 (fourteen years ago)

Jaymc I'm not sure if you would like PP or not -- it's kinda aimless compared to what I think you usually like. But iirc I first heard PP when n/a recommended it to you, me, and Dan M last year around this time!

I didn't vote for WITTR but I like them alright.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:25 (fourteen years ago)

and the WITTR is the best album they've made I think. Love all their albums though. Fuck the tr00 kvlt black metallers who don't like them

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:25 (fourteen years ago)

Outloud is one of those things I wish I had the time to do - just don't see how I'd fit it in though, in practise :(

What kind of music is veronica falls? Soz if this has been gone over, am on bberry and only skimmed

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:25 (fourteen years ago)

I definitely like what Wolves in the Throne Room are doing musically more than Liturgy

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:26 (fourteen years ago)

ha ha because it's more goth

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:27 (fourteen years ago)

VF, to me, sounds like some sunny Cali late 60s stuff filtered through C86 sonics and presented with a little more gloom than either.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:27 (fourteen years ago)

ha ha because it's more goth

... embarrassingly, that is so OTM

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:28 (fourteen years ago)

"Bad Feeling" is a great VF track to get a taste imo.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:28 (fourteen years ago)

Hollywood sadcore goes for the dreamy slow vibe, doesn't it? That's nothing like what V. Falls do.

I've never heard the band. I was just riffing on the name.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:28 (fourteen years ago)

Metal, taking back the wolves. Suck it, indie rock!

You'd fit in fine, Lex, considering the variety of stuff that gets played – but on the other hand, you might not like a lot of the stuff that gets played.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:29 (fourteen years ago)

Re Pyschic Paramount: "aimless" and "abrasive" certainly aren't my thing, but "post-rock" and "jazzrock" are. I guess I'll have to listen.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:29 (fourteen years ago)

I wonder if any of the 14 metal albums I voted for will place. Probably not.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:29 (fourteen years ago)

xp - You would have to at least pretend to be tolerant of the stuff that gets played.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:30 (fourteen years ago)

Haha maybe just as well I can't do it then

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:31 (fourteen years ago)

outloud is mostly kerr and j3ff t 24/7 with some occasional dance crew, take that how you will

try again, fascist (Matt P), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:31 (fourteen years ago)

I should give it a go at some pt though - always interesting to try out music social media things that actually catch on (so many don't)

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:32 (fourteen years ago)

ive not been in for a few days

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:32 (fourteen years ago)

FALSEHOOD AND LIES.

You don't have to pretend to be tolerant, you just have to not be overwhelmingly negative like KJB :P.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:33 (fourteen years ago)

Well, we do have KJB in there regularly and he hates almost everything! But yeah, most people are pretty respectful of what others play. It's nice to be nice. You're more than welcome to join in, lex, as is everyone else - it's an open place.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:33 (fourteen years ago)

xpost hahaha

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:33 (fourteen years ago)

Reminder: KJB prefers live recordings over studio work.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:34 (fourteen years ago)

I think KJB's taste overlaps with mine significantly!

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:34 (fourteen years ago)

you love bucks fizz?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:35 (fourteen years ago)

Big fan of the Clean, iirc.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:35 (fourteen years ago)

ke$ha?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:36 (fourteen years ago)

My only experience with Outloud was dropping in a handful of times while my wife was out of town, but I heard in there what ended up being my #2 track.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:36 (fourteen years ago)

I think Lil Kim

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:36 (fourteen years ago)

Save us J0rdan Fever!

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:36 (fourteen years ago)

J0rdan and I aren't related, btw. That's a coincidence.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/c1OjA.jpg

63. Austra - Feel it Break (290 points, ten votes, one first place vote)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 85

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J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

If Cosmic Dead places, I think that that will be proof positive of the effectiveness of the outloud hivemind this year.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

This album is almost expressly made to push all my buttons, but failed to do so every time I gave it a listen. :(

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:39 (fourteen years ago)

This is one that I couldn't get with when it was released in the summer, and I resolved to give it a try in the winter, but when the winter came I just defaulted to actual Fever Ray instead. Not bad at all though

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:40 (fourteen years ago)

i played this a lot for about a month, still think it's p good

donna rouge, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:40 (fourteen years ago)

HOORAY for Austra! I love Katie Stelmanis' voice so much, and I feel like this album is appealing to a wider audience than her solo stuff (even though I like the solo stuff better tbh).

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:43 (fourteen years ago)

Don't get the Austra love, I really really tried but it never clicked for me.

Would love to see Cosmic Dead place here!

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:43 (fourteen years ago)

I don't really dig the cold production so much as her warm voice.

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:44 (fourteen years ago)

the austra album is great! didn't know there was solo stuff out there, i'll have to dig around.

omar little, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:44 (fourteen years ago)

here you go http://grooveshark.com/#!/album/Join+Us/1457509

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:45 (fourteen years ago)

la lechera u r a treat!

omar little, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:46 (fourteen years ago)

there is a youtube of her singing "harder now" but i will resist posting it here. it's amazing!!

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:46 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/6fIT2.jpg

62. Drake – Take Care (292 points, 8 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: 8
P&J: 8

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J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 20:48 (fourteen years ago)

allow me to get my lex on, UGH

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:49 (fourteen years ago)

I don't understand what anyone sees in Drake at all, so boring and lifeless and whining. Just, so awful.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:49 (fourteen years ago)

don't know why he's so glum having a chalice of mead in a hobbit bar

omar little, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

And a golden chicken drumstick.

emil.y, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:51 (fourteen years ago)

i understand ppl's qualms with drake the person... it was prob my favorite album of the year sonically speaking, and dude is a good writer, getting better as a rapper

just the best big, pure pop album of 2011

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 20:52 (fourteen years ago)

so contemptuous of drake and anyone who thinks that album is either emotionally moving or beautiful-sounding

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:52 (fourteen years ago)

lol xp

it was prob my favorite album of the year sonically speaking

this makes so little sense to me. ALBUM SOUNDS NOTHINGY.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:52 (fourteen years ago)

I don't understand why people let their dislike of Drake as a person or a rapper affect their opinion of his music.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:52 (fourteen years ago)

ya that ones a real mystery

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

i'm not here to hate so i will just wait until something i like pops up again...that run was good while it lasted!

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

Drake is THE WORST

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

this is like people who find tree of life "beautiful". do they gaze enraptured at windows screensavers and stock photography too?

do people who listen to drake vibe out to lift muzak?

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

I don't understand why people let their dislike of Drake as a person or a rapper affect their opinion of his music.

his rapping is on the music! i wouldn't dislike HIM if he didn't make the shitty music.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:54 (fourteen years ago)

See, despite my misgivings I actually listened to Take Care in whole and am still pissed I wasted that much of my life. Its not his persona that bothers me, its how limp and lifeless the album was. A couple nice beats, but completely destroyed by his pissing and moaning.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:54 (fourteen years ago)

Thora Vukk was in my top 10 list. Glad it made it. I have only heard 3 of the other ones so far. I suck at it but maybe I'll post a first impression on each one when the countdown for today is over.

Moka, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:55 (fourteen years ago)

I dunno, the timbre of his voice is kind of dorky, but the rapping doesn't get in the way of the excellent production.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:55 (fourteen years ago)

xp What's not to understand? The artist and the art are inextricably intertwined in a lot of ways. It would be nice to say that you could look at the work objectively without bringing in outside influences, but that's cutting off an entire aspect of the work.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:55 (fourteen years ago)

limp and lifeless

otm. just INERT. this is not good sound design - the sonics don't go anywhere or do anything except be ~vaguely~ ~melancholy~

the album's most ear-catching beat is a jamie xx beat - and jamie xx himself was the most horribly overrated british electronic producer of 2011

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:56 (fourteen years ago)

Drake is a musical canker sore

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:56 (fourteen years ago)

drake just reminds me of listening to 22 year olds complaining about feeling old

La Lechera, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:56 (fourteen years ago)

I feel like its a banner day when lex otms me, I feel like we so rarely agree.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:57 (fourteen years ago)

Good to see Veronica Falls place. Got a good feeling I missed it off my rushed ballot.

DavidM, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:57 (fourteen years ago)

even on the drake remixes i like, like the jojo one that showed up in the tracks poll, or the angel haze ones, even then the production isn't the attraction - it works as a background foil to a compelling persona or narrative, when it works, not as a thing that's remarkable in its own right

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:58 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.qkme.me/72mv.jpg

omar little, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:58 (fourteen years ago)

incidentally all these weeks later i'm still getting angry tweets from drake fans over my review - who'd have ever thought drake fans would be whiny lil bitches? taking after their hero ;_;

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:59 (fourteen years ago)

clearly none of you have ever viewed the aftermath of a party through a haze of smoke

Number None, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:59 (fourteen years ago)

The only nice thing I'll say about Take Care is that the cover art is great.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:00 (fourteen years ago)

I don't even love Take Care -- the previous album made more of an impression -- but I guess I always want to defend him because I like the production and mood of his records, and the complaints about his persona or his lyrical POV are irrelevant to how I listen to music.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:00 (fourteen years ago)

I think he sounds like a nasally fart

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:00 (fourteen years ago)

The mood is too one-note though and sustaining it over the length of 75 minutes or w/e is just pure torture.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:01 (fourteen years ago)

I have never heard Drake. But I instinctively know I would probably hate him as much as Lex.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:01 (fourteen years ago)

The mood is too one-note though and sustaining it over the length of 75 minutes or w/e is just pure torture.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, January 30, 2012 1:01 PM Bookmark

OTM

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:02 (fourteen years ago)

do people who listen to drake vibe out to lift muzak?

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, January 30, 2012 3:53 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

actually kinda

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 21:02 (fourteen years ago)

I think he sounds like a nasally fart

― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, January 30, 2012 9:00 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

The mood is too one-note though and sustaining it over the length of 75 minutes or w/e is just pure torture.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, January 30, 2012 9:01 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm x 2

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:03 (fourteen years ago)

oh J0RDAN

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:03 (fourteen years ago)

wow take care and WTT outside of the top 50 is pretty impressive ilm

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:03 (fourteen years ago)

What the hell is lift ... oh, lol, Britishes.

And sure, why not.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:04 (fourteen years ago)

I was kind of grooving on the beat of the first track, and then he started rapping and it was literally the same phobic physical reaction I have when a mosquito buzzes in my ear, only in this case the mosquito was sadly bragging about how awesome he was

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:04 (fourteen years ago)

irl lol

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:05 (fourteen years ago)

take care, more like take that shit somewhere else

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:05 (fourteen years ago)

i've done my fair share of drake defending this year, so i'll let all this pass

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 21:05 (fourteen years ago)

I heard Michael McDonald in an elevator a few weeks ago, I could have vibed to that for awhile longer than the ride took tbh.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:05 (fourteen years ago)

alright last one today

i forgot to compile the full list in text, my bad

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 21:05 (fourteen years ago)

never forget: "shout out to the asian girls, let the lights dim sum" ;_; ;_;

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:06 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/MAJzB.jpg

61. Lykke Li – Wounded Rhymes (294 points, 10 votes)

P4K: 43
P&J: 38

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J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 21:06 (fourteen years ago)

also i stopped using em dashes halfway thru cuz i switched to my work computer which uses windows

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 21:06 (fourteen years ago)

file lykke li w/ low in ppl i had no idea put out albums this year

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 21:06 (fourteen years ago)

I always want to like Lykke Li more than I actually do

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:06 (fourteen years ago)

i dont think i knew this album existed (oh lol xps)

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:07 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, this album was pretty boring.

skip, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:07 (fourteen years ago)

i discovered recently that one of my favourite songs on the cousin fik album (which i doubt will place) samples lykke li - it sounds immense as a sample and may have to cause me to revise my opinion of her (previously thought she was just a twee menace)

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:07 (fourteen years ago)

the lykke li album is.....fine

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:08 (fourteen years ago)

Btw, Lex, your stock "stock photography" put-down of TTOL (this is at least the third time you've used that analogy, iirc?) only makes sense if the film were just a series of context-less images. It's not.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:08 (fourteen years ago)

lol this first song sounds sort of like Santigold doing 60s rock

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:08 (fourteen years ago)

I liked this Lykke Li album a lot when it first came out, but cooled on it significantly as the year went on.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:08 (fourteen years ago)

Btw, Lex, your stock "stock photography" put-down of TTOL (this is at least the third time you've used that analogy, iirc?) only makes sense if the film were just a series of context-less images. It's not.

leaving aside the fact that the "plot", such as it is, is incredibly thin and uncompelling, it was more of an aesthetic judgment - it's the clichéd nature and weird, polished, slick shine of the film's visuals

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:09 (fourteen years ago)

Lykke Li is more of a singles artist than an album artist for me.

I dig the Dave Sitek remix of "I Follow Rivers":
http://youtu.be/pWaJ35iKUO8

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:09 (fourteen years ago)

incredibly thin and uncompelling

Yeah, we disagree, then.

jaymc, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:10 (fourteen years ago)

this is the amazing lykke li sampling track btw

cousin fik - collow you (colombiana mix)

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:11 (fourteen years ago)

i think the only album that placed today that ive heard all the way through is drake's ://

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:11 (fourteen years ago)

*follow

agh

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:11 (fourteen years ago)

I really love the Lykke Li album. Thought it was a huge improvement on the debut even though there wasn't anything as brilliant as A Little Bit on there.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:14 (fourteen years ago)

^^ I agree with that assessment completely.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:14 (fourteen years ago)

woooo WITTR! i have much more time for them than liturgy myself. this album in particular is evidence #1 for "black metal can do more than you think" from this year.

blurgh (jjjusten), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:15 (fourteen years ago)

well at least among the albums that have any possible chance of placing obv.

blurgh (jjjusten), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:15 (fourteen years ago)

Sadness Is a Blessing is my favorite Lykke Li track yet, so I agree that the album was an improvement on her debut but disagree that there's not a track on there as good as Little Bit.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:18 (fourteen years ago)

(previously thought she was just a twee menace)

lol

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:22 (fourteen years ago)

ok, someone pls explain to me what makes WITTR exceptional? it sounds solid but i just don't hear what sets them apart.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:23 (fourteen years ago)

Man I wish that Psychic Paramount sounded better cos the songs are great.

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:23 (fourteen years ago)

i think the only album that placed today that ive heard all the way through is drake's ://

For me, its ILXtallica...

two lights crew (seandalai), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:24 (fourteen years ago)

re: what sets WITTR apart:

random excursions into almost ambient/4AD sounding stuff with fem vocals, field recordings, anti-civ philosophy as reflected in the song titles and artwork (the back cover photo is maybe my favorite single thing about the record).

sleeve, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:24 (fourteen years ago)

So has Markers got Lulu into the top 60 then?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:25 (fourteen years ago)

WITTR has songs!

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:26 (fourteen years ago)

Tree of Life is great and real and not like Drake. Drake is more like a mumblecore picture.

abcfsk, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:26 (fourteen years ago)

That Psychic Paramount record is fucking great, I feel a dunce for not putting it in my list. Gah.

I was a massive 'Drums & Guns' lover, but the new Low sounded a bit insubstantial to me.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:27 (fourteen years ago)

Frankly hilarious that Jay-Z, Kanye and Drake all failed to hit the top 60.

I'm fine with the whole windswept Spectorish vibe that Lykke Li album is going for, and the songs are pretty good, just wish she didn't sing like she had a bad head cold.

Matt DC, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:45 (fourteen years ago)

I expected Watch The Throne to place at a low number, so I'm not sure where all the shock comes from... It's an inconsistent record with really awesome high points and a few of my favorite songs of the decade so far, but overall its placement here seems accurate.

billstevejim, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:48 (fourteen years ago)

I've never heard the band. I was just riffing on the name.

― jaymc, Monday, January 30, 2012 8:28 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^lol OK so I guess I just got that 'Veronica Falls' is a pun name?

I voted WITTR pretty high so that's neat, Psychic Paramount somewhere in the top 20 also

Katie Stelmanis seems like a p interesting character w/ good ideas etc but I never clicked w/ the Austra album

I didn't feel especially ill disposed towards Take Care when I played it except that it JUST KEPT GOING - like if I'd been listening right through without access to a clock of some sort I'd've guessed that it was a good two hours long

Saltines of Pink - 'Whites Me Tumblr?' (DJ Mencap), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:49 (fourteen years ago)

My votes thus far:

Robag Wruhme - Thora Vukk
Likely consensus pick for the best chillroom microhouse of the year, with a far broader range than recent favorite Pantha du Prince.

Barbara Panther - Barbara Panther
Veering on the bridge railing vocals chanting strident ESL lyrics over Matthew Herbert productions. A political Bjork with more vocal tricks. I'm a simple man with simple needs.

Austra - Feel It Break
Suffers from brittle production, synth presets and the recent flood of similar femme-fronted gothy electronica (Esben and the Witch, Julia Holter, Sleep ∞ Over, Zola Jesus) but Katie Stelmanis is the best songwriter of the lot, and after a couple listens I was already singing along "Who-ooo signed, the consent form?"

Kinda dissappointed in the placement of the Austra, as it means 80% of my ballot picks, including my 2 favorite albums (Emika & Gazelle Twin) are almost certainly out of contention.

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:53 (fourteen years ago)

I voted for Emika, don't give up yet

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 30 January 2012 21:59 (fourteen years ago)

Feel like the Lykke Li album and the Cults album are going for a similar vibe, but i like how Lykke Li approaches it better. Feels newer and less self-consciously retro.

Moodles, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:00 (fourteen years ago)

emika is great

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, 30 January 2012 22:06 (fourteen years ago)

i love the emika and gazelle twin albums, more than austra, but they were both juuuust outside my ballot. i'd be happy to see them place though

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 22:07 (fourteen years ago)

if i'd heard gazelle twin a bit earlier that might have made my ballot tbh

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 30 January 2012 22:08 (fourteen years ago)

likewise re: gazelle twin, been playing that a ton lately. still haven't heard emika

donna rouge, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:11 (fourteen years ago)

Barbara Panther - Barbara Panther
Veering on the bridge railing vocals chanting strident ESL lyrics over Matthew Herbert productions. A political Bjork with more vocal tricks. I'm a simple man with simple needs.

I get the Björk comparisons, but people who think that's her only "thing" should check out this Acid Washed tune featuring Panther, which is fun and sexy and not really Björkish at all. I hope on her future records she'll do more aggressive tracks like the first on the album; my only disappointment with it was that there perhaps too much prettiness on it after that kicker of an opener.

Tuomas, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:15 (fourteen years ago)

Also, I think her ESL lyrics are kinda endearingly poignant, like on "Voodoo":

Every night I pray like a bitch
That one day the poor will eat the rich
And I don't care if that makes me a WAH WAH WAH witch!

Tuomas, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:19 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, the awkward lyrics and delivery are definitely a point in BP's favor

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Monday, 30 January 2012 22:20 (fourteen years ago)

Shout out to my outloud cru homefries! Psychic Paramount is my only vote to place: I expected it to tbh. I tried to build a cosmic Dead coalition but I just don't think it was big enough, but PP album is even better!

Lots of stuff here I've been meaning to check out: Low, Austra, Veronica Falls...

non, je ned raggette rien (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 30 January 2012 22:24 (fourteen years ago)

drake is way too low

flopson, Monday, 30 January 2012 23:13 (fourteen years ago)

voted for thora vukk, such a subtle and rewarding listen, but i also have been digging the barbara panther and psychic paramount records in the past few weeks.

i remember liking austra ok but mainly because some friends wanted to go see them play and i forced myself to check it out. the production leaves kind of a lot to be desired tho, and that voice would def get on my nerves if i had to listen to it more

psychgawsple, Monday, 30 January 2012 23:15 (fourteen years ago)

ok, someone pls explain to me what makes WITTR exceptional? it sounds solid but i just don't hear what sets them apart.

― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, January 30, 2012 4:23 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

imo they just nail their sound way more frequently than most bm bands--they know what they're good at and they are very well-produced.

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 January 2012 23:55 (fourteen years ago)

anything about the new WITTR that might appeal to ppl who feel that their previous albums are a bit boring?

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Monday, 30 January 2012 23:58 (fourteen years ago)

no not really

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 January 2012 23:59 (fourteen years ago)

Songs!

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 00:01 (fourteen years ago)

they always had songs!

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 00:02 (fourteen years ago)

Better songs!

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 00:02 (fourteen years ago)

It sounds better the ones before it iirc - the drums seemed to have a lot more wallop - but it's basically the same sort of deal.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 00:03 (fourteen years ago)

hing about the new WITTR that might appeal to ppl who feel that their previous albums are a bit boring?

― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Monday, January 30, 2012 3:58 PM (24 minutes ago)

what sold me on this one (I wasn't as big a fan of Black Cascade) was that the band is now just the two brothers, they produced the rec as well I think. also, field recordings.

sleeve, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 00:24 (fourteen years ago)

just the two brothers, they produced the rec as well I think.

$1000/year on cab fare too

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:16 (fourteen years ago)

well done

sleeve, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:19 (fourteen years ago)

sorry guys but this barbara panther album is terrible

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:42 (fourteen years ago)

based on what i heard when we did this in the trax thread i don't really get the love

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:44 (fourteen years ago)

sorta how i feel about all of these so far :( xp

try again, fascist (Matt P), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:45 (fourteen years ago)

its like all the worst & most annoying parts of bjork w/ none of the beauty or drama or charm

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:46 (fourteen years ago)

i'll admit that the track that made it on the tracks poll is the least bad

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:46 (fourteen years ago)

i think jay is just as banal as kanye on WTT tbh

i still hate otis but i do like a few songs on WTT. both rappers are ehh at this point, but its def a record that got 'too big to fail'

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:49 (fourteen years ago)

ok the chorus on "Dizzy" is pretty awesome

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:51 (fourteen years ago)

See? Already you've stepped back on the "terrible" proclamation.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:51 (fourteen years ago)

yeah this thing jordan is trying to sell like jay suddenly remembered how to rap after 7 years is so ??? to me, i just don't hear it at all

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:52 (fourteen years ago)

xpost but then it goes back to the verses and its terrible again

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:53 (fourteen years ago)

wait a few more seconds I bet the chorus will come back

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:55 (fourteen years ago)

i'm on the next song now and it too is terrible

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:56 (fourteen years ago)

haha

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:01 (fourteen years ago)

I can imagine a look of delight on his face, followed by a sourpuss, and then a return of delight...

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:02 (fourteen years ago)

i was the #1 vote for The Joy Formidable! crazy that they placed lower here than on P&J though, i guess we shore don't like them as much as morbz thought.

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:25 (fourteen years ago)

i listened to that whole album after hearing that song on the tracks poll-- super in to it. what else should i hear by them?

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:38 (fourteen years ago)

A Balloon Called Moaning was their 8-song miniLP from 2009 (4 songs reappeared on last year's album, all with (to my dismay) bigger production).

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:00 (fourteen years ago)

otm

mookieproof, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:01 (fourteen years ago)

ok the chorus on "Dizzy" is pretty awesome...

xpost but then it goes back to the verses and its terrible again

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if it helps, i would like to downgrade my previous GREAT to good, or really good, or something in that vicinity

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:07 (fourteen years ago)

also, listened to austra and veronica falls, found them okayish

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:14 (fourteen years ago)

JF have some good songs that are on neither album, my favorite being "My Beerdrunk Soul Is Sadder Than a Hundred Dead Christmas Trees"

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:17 (fourteen years ago)

austra just makes me want to listen to that jj album from 2009 and the young galaxy album from 2011

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:18 (fourteen years ago)

those are both so much better albums than the austra one tho

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:34 (fourteen years ago)

Is there anything here I'd probably like that I haven't heard? I've only heard Toro y Moi and the three rap albums.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:38 (fourteen years ago)

even though i have always loved, and of course voted for, thora vukk it keeps growing on me more and more. "ende" is such a beautiful ending track; i'd be p surprised if this (and the title track) didn't convert those not into robag's production prowess on previous EPs. so much warmth

psychgawsple, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:39 (fourteen years ago)

"My Beerdrunk Soul Is Sadder Than a Hundred Dead Christmas Trees"

Yes! People really need to track down the bonus disc that came with certain versions of the album (not in the States though, I don't think), its called It's Just A World Apart. It has that song shipz is talking about plus "Chwyrlio" a version of "Whirring" in Welsh.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:40 (fourteen years ago)

rev you should def check out when saints go machine

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:41 (fourteen years ago)

i put young galaxy way too low on my ballot-- did anyone else vote for it?

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:42 (fourteen years ago)

I cooled a lot on that Young Galaxy album.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:42 (fourteen years ago)

I love the sounds made by that YG album, but none of the songs actually keep me coming back.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:43 (fourteen years ago)

i can feel that

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:44 (fourteen years ago)

i, too, loved the production on the YG record but couldn't get over the arts & crafts-y vocals

psychgawsple, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:46 (fourteen years ago)

I cooled a lot on that Young Galaxy album.

i did too although i put it on p recently and liked it again. it sounds like winter vacation i think

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:47 (fourteen years ago)

Maybe I should pull it out again too, haven't heard it in probably 4 or 5 months.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:47 (fourteen years ago)

there are still a bunch of not v good songs but stuff like 'peripheral visionaries' marries the indie sing-along vocals w/the icy beach vibe really well

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:53 (fourteen years ago)

Love that track.

Tim F, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:53 (fourteen years ago)

v happy to see the low album here. "'especially me" is my favourite low song since the 'curtain' LP

i haven't fallen for the veronica falls album like some have. it sounds like something i should love, and i don't mind it, but yeah. probably the 5th best album released on slumberland this year.

fitzroy institution (electricsound), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:02 (fourteen years ago)

probably the 5th best album released on slumberland this year.

out of curiosity what are your top 4?

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:06 (fourteen years ago)

1. art museums - dancing with a hole in my heart 7"
2 - 5. ???

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:06 (fourteen years ago)

lol lamp

girls names, crystal stilts, big troubles, brilliant colors

fitzroy institution (electricsound), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:07 (fourteen years ago)

had art museums put out a full length this year it would have totes been my #1

fitzroy institution (electricsound), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:08 (fourteen years ago)

last year obv

fitzroy institution (electricsound), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:08 (fourteen years ago)

haha that art museums 7" totally belongs on grady's list of awesome songs not nominated for ilm eoy poll

i think that and the devon williams 7" are the only things on slumberland i bought this year

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:11 (fourteen years ago)

rev you should def check out when saints go machine

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Tried listening to a couple songs. I really don't like that dude's voice. The music was nice and all but not compelling enough to make up for the singer.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:26 (fourteen years ago)

missed the countdown as usual, today stuff:

as far as post-Silent Shout stuff goes, I couldn't get very excited about Austra/Emika/Barbara Panther/Planningtorock. Did vote for Gazelle Twin, love that one.

I voted for WTT, admittedly because the highs were pretty towering for me this year. only thing i voted for that wasn't really solid all the way through.

Toro Y Moi: That cover is amazing, especially for a dude who looks like the ultimate safe boring hipster. he puts on a great live show too.

Joy Formidable: this is okay, but I still like Ostrich the best, and considering it's the rawest track on their debut e.p. (and didn't get re-released on the Big Roar) I don't think I have much of a future with these guys. Like Crystal Antlers - loved em till they cleaned up

Cosmo Vitelli, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:57 (fourteen years ago)

I really like the When Saints Go Machine album, "Church & Law" is the standout track for me. For such an unusual album its resonance feel very precise - Black Celebration X I Am A Bird Now X Silent Shout x Comicopera.

Tim F, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 05:13 (fourteen years ago)

Toro Y Moi: That cover is amazing

OTM, surprises me that so many seem to hate it. one of the strongest, most beautiful, distinctive and memorable pieces of album art i saw last year.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 05:30 (fourteen years ago)

sure

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 05:30 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

dave cool, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 05:36 (fourteen years ago)

come on guys, i voted for that album and have no problem admitting the cover is terrible

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 05:38 (fourteen years ago)

i bet someone worked really hard to make it http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

dave cool, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 05:41 (fourteen years ago)

contenderizer otm

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 05:41 (fourteen years ago)

ill take that bet (xp)

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 05:42 (fourteen years ago)

i've never heard the album but love the image. could maybe do w/out the white box and title text (?), but the photo and band logo are grate.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 05:44 (fourteen years ago)

its a painting iirc?

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 05:46 (fourteen years ago)

now that would be impressive, but

the photo-- a self-portrait taken by the one-time graphic design student in a hotel bathroom

^ from the intro to a p4k "take cover" interview w chaz bundick

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 05:56 (fourteen years ago)

the toro y moi cover freaks me out a little. is that a flower coming out of his mouth or seafood extender?

charlie h, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 07:20 (fourteen years ago)

anyway, happy to see a bunch of my faves placing. yay for psychic paramount, liturgy, austra, robag wruhme and lykke li. also, well done ilm for preventing drake and kanye/jay-z from placing higher.

charlie h, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 07:25 (fourteen years ago)

so contemptuous of drake and anyone who thinks that album is either emotionally moving or beautiful-sounding

lol it has sure emotionally moved a lot of yall to FURIOUS ANGER

wild 'n othing (fennel cartwright), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 07:40 (fourteen years ago)

lol pwn

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 07:42 (fourteen years ago)

77. When Saints Go Machine — Konkylie

What an awful name for a band. Would never consider listening to them if not for their placement in the poll. Turns out I've listened to a few of this songs throughout the year without knowing who they were. It's ok for hipster party music. Sounds to me like the Delays and I'd much rather listen to them.

76. Robag Wruhme — Thora Vukk

I nommed and voted for this. Ot’s always a treat to hear a producer who is proficient and well known around the techno community turning away from the dancefloor to release music that borders outside of their usual field of expertise. Thora Vukk is Wruhme’s exploration of his music’s more melancholic, contemplative side, while keeping the sense of tension and attention to detail that he has perfected as a techno producer. The result is warm, gorgeous album that is fascinating, at least on an aesthetic level. Nothing new but very pleasant to the ears.

75. Liturgy — Aesthethica

I'm sorry... I tried but Metal music wears me off after a couple of tracks. Didn't care enough to listen through half of it. Either way I'll admit that if I listened to metal the sort of structures I heard in some of the songs would probably be my kind of thing so not completely hating on this one.

74. The Joy Formidable — The Big Roar

So I've heard the songs and watched the videos and they definitely nail the alt.rock look. Somehow though I find it perhaps too carefully constructed and planned and lacking in attitude as if in reality they'd rather be a folk band or something. I also have trouble remembering the songs after a while.

73. Jay-Z & Kanye West — Watch the Throne

Was expecting this to place much higher. It's not a bad album but I'm not particulary excited about it either. I was probably too burnt out on both of them and their personas this year. I don't really have anything to say on this one.

72. Barbara Panther — Barbara Panther

This sounds so much better on paper: Rwandan refugee doing electro produced by Matthew Herbert. Turns out it's a bit boring safe for a couple of songs.

71. Toro y Moi - Underneath the Pine

I could love this but it feels like that sort of seasonal music that only gets to you on a certain mood and weather and then you never listen to it after two years when you once again think it's the best thing ever before shelving it back. I actually think the artwork is the best one in the countdown so far, next to Thora Vukk.

69. Wild Flag — Wild Flag

I kind of like what I heard on first listen but I should probably give it more time. Awful artwork.

69. Low — C'Mon

Had no idea Low had released something this year. Same thing as Toro y Moi. I know I could appreciate this in the right setting but not really feeling it atm.

68. ILX Presents Lulu

I would have actually cashed money if the real album was half as good as this one.

67. Veronica Falls - Veronica Falls

This is cool. Never heard of them before but I'm loving this. Simple and to the point. There's some interesting twists in short spans, apt for ADD people.

Ok I'm off to sleep. I'll keep listening to the rest tomorrow.

Moka, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 07:48 (fourteen years ago)

continuing on the Toro Y Moi cover, it's initially repulsive duh but it's a pretty bold interpretation of sexual fears, especially for a guy who was linked to a genre that never even gently rocked any boats. 2011 saw thousands of tasteful and "pretty" covers, then bam! glistening tentacle pube mouth right in your face. love love love it.

Cosmo Vitelli, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 08:03 (fourteen years ago)

i forgot the young galaxy album existed. ugh that's still to come i guess :(

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 08:26 (fourteen years ago)

Veronica Falls appear, on the basis of the first few songs, to inhabit a world in which there are two rhythms - blankly strummed eighth notes, and the opening to 'Be My Baby'. So generic, so boring.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 08:49 (fourteen years ago)

OTM BOMB

Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 09:20 (fourteen years ago)

i like veronica falls
on record, as well as live.
maybe they need more laser noises

nathey, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 09:22 (fourteen years ago)

Veronica Falls appear, on the basis of the first few songs, to inhabit a world in which there are two rhythms - blankly strummed eighth notes, and the opening to 'Be My Baby'. So generic, so boring.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 08:49 (42 minutes ago) Permalink

Funny, I was listening to a bit of this this morning and remarking on how interesting their approach to rhythm was (at least in the song I heard). Something about the way the snare and guitar work together... Adding these guys to the list of Yuck-style Alt-'90s revival bands. I wouldn't blink if someone were to tell me Veronica Falls are from a long-lost Volume compilation from early-94. It happens I nearly joined a band who now sound very similar to these guys. Gonna have to investigate further.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 09:35 (fourteen years ago)

I'd say that Veronica Falls are more 80s than 90s, that sound harks back to the days when Bobby Gillespie still played the drums.

As for Yuck and the Joy Formidtable and their critical success - UK indie landfill finally cracks the US??

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:34 (fourteen years ago)

Landfill was the big post-Libertines Top 40 stuff like the Kooks, View, Fratellis, etc - stuff the US never warmed to. But Yuck & Joy Formidable fit right in to P4k world.

Meme Rogers (DL), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:39 (fourteen years ago)

As for Yuck and the Joy Formidtable and their critical success - UK indie landfill finally cracks the US??

If anything these bands are taking 90% of their cues from US alt-rock and have nothing to do with indie landfill stuff xpost

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:42 (fourteen years ago)

Doglatin I think you're kinda overblowing the significance of these 90s revivalist bands, I doubt Yuck exactly have a stellar career ahead of them.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:44 (fourteen years ago)

Where did I say they did?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:45 (fourteen years ago)

I dunno, it's all very Evening Sessions-esque, it's like landfill with the britpop influenced bits taken out. I like 'A Heavy Abacus' off that JF album, it's got a nice yearning quality to it, but the prospect of listening to the whole thing is about as enticing as digging through the crates of marked-down CDs in a provincial HMV circa 2003.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:47 (fourteen years ago)

Really, I'm quite on the fence about Yuck - "Get Away"'s a good single, and the album's okayish. W/R/T popularity, they were positioned at about 6:45pm on a medium-sized stage at Primavera festival earlier this year - a very very early start for that festival - but when I got there to check em out it was so packed I could barely see the stage and had to climb up a hillside just to get a peak. Seems the organisers had underestimated how popular they would get between booking and album release. I wouldn't underestimate the power of nostalgia to sell units.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:51 (fourteen years ago)

I took "indie landfill" to mean the same as DL said upthread - all those mid-2000s Brit-garage bands in pointy shoes and tight trousers who (to these ears) sounded exactly the same as each other. But I guess this is getting semantic. Yuck/Joy Formidable are like the NWOAlt-Rock or something. I can't tell if it's positive or negative or just inbetween. Probably just in between - if it's not hurting anyone and people like it, fair enough. Just not up for hundreds of Dinosaur Jr-ripoff bands suddenly blowing up off the back of a fad.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 10:56 (fourteen years ago)

how come it's always the placement of indie rock bands in an ILM poll that causes the most handwringing?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:22 (fourteen years ago)

I was thinking earlier that the difference in overall attitude/approach on this poll compared to the tracks poll is pretty big - almost like two different boards.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:24 (fourteen years ago)

It is every year, though, from what I can remember. And bear in mind we're in the lower reaches still - a lot of the big hitters in tracks who have released album will appear later.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:29 (fourteen years ago)

*albumS. I need to proof-read my posts more.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:29 (fourteen years ago)

was there a nyan cat album?

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:32 (fourteen years ago)

Oh I was referring more to the overall mood of the thread. Everyone seemed more energised and enthusiastic on tracks, but people seem more considerate and open minded over here. Maybe that'll all change as we reach the upper regions of the countdown.

Is it alright to speculate over the chances of Diamond Mine placing? I know KC has a small but strong contingent lurking around ILX, but will it be enough to push him into the 77?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:34 (fourteen years ago)

Well I voted for Veronica Falls, Drake, and Joy F. The K.R.I.T album just missed my ballot. So out of the stuff I hadn't heard found the When Saints... hella boring. Lykke and Low were okay. Really dug Psychic Paramount though.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:36 (fourteen years ago)

was there a nyan cat album?

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Am now imagining a "riddim" style compilation made up of different people toasting over Nyan Cat.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:36 (fourteen years ago)

Album lists attract a slightly different crowd - there are people posting prolifically here who didn't post on the tracks thread at all, and I'm willing to guess there are people who only voted in the albums list (and to a lesser extent vice-versa). Also you see different types of music appearing - this list so far is a lot indier, with more consensus picks appearing.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:37 (fourteen years ago)

true, true

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:39 (fourteen years ago)

What's (kind of) interesting is that it's more or less the same group of voters in albums and tracks. I don't have exact numbers but I'd say well over 100 people voted in both.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 11:42 (fourteen years ago)

My tracks ballot was mostly odd dance and some poppier stuff and my album picks are mostly weird noise. Neither of which will have much of an impact on these polls. But I do still read lots of album review, and that's my main way of finding new things, whereas with the tracks its mostly stuff that has been filtered through ILX or blogs or whatever.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 12:19 (fourteen years ago)

Voted for 25 in the other and 4 in this - no overlap, doubt most of the ones in the track ballot will ever release an album

Cashmere Combabe, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 12:34 (fourteen years ago)

I can't remember the exact figures but I think the albums poll had about a dozen more voters.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 12:40 (fourteen years ago)

One contributing factor to why the albums poll varies from the tracks poll is because a good number of people feel that they should avoid voting for tracks off of albums they think have multiple standouts. How many times did something either place low in the tracks poll or come up in conversation as a missing entry where several people said "oh I voted for that album instead"?

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 12:42 (fourteen years ago)

And thank god for that. One of the reasons why, say, the Pitchfork tracks list is so boring is that it's largely people just voting for their favourite tracks off their favourite albums, and that crowds out so much great music that appears on patchy albums, or never appears on an album at all.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:27 (fourteen years ago)

Hmm looking at it I voted 6 albums where I also voted for a track off said album. Not that bad out of 25 I guess.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:32 (fourteen years ago)

I don't know if it's because I know their history before having heard the album, but Liturgy don't so much sound like a black metal band as what Oneida or Liars would sound like if they were spoofing it. The intro to True Will sounds like an Animal Collective b-side, the production is also very indie - it doesn't have that galloping "sheets of glass being dropped in a church" effect, sounds more like it was recorded in a loft. And the guy's voice is just lost - BM singing tends to be more structured whereas this just sounds like someone whooping in some vague unison with the backing. It's not that I don't like it, but this has much more in common with the NY noise/hardcore continuum than it's being given credit for.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:33 (fourteen years ago)

The tracks that most miss out for me are those on albums which are mostly not-great but have a few standouts (ie you can't pick just one to vote for but the album's not good enough to vote for either). MJB springs to mind for last year

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:35 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah but if any of those MJB tracks had been out-and-out amazing you'd have voted for them anyway?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:38 (fourteen years ago)

Okay, so it seems Liturgy are Black Metal to Fucked Up's hardcore punk - in this case it isn't BM at all, it's math rock/post rock with screechy vocals whereas Fucked Up do pop-rock with punk vocals.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:44 (fourteen years ago)

Xp not nec! There were at least 100 out-and-out amazing tracks I didn't have room to vote for

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:14 (fourteen years ago)

fwiw i really like the drum sound on the liturgy record, and the WITTR record makes me think "why do drums usually sound so terrible on metal records?"

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:25 (fourteen years ago)

so in a roundabout way dog latin is saying Liturgy is hipster metal made by indie kids and not proper metal at all?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:25 (fourteen years ago)

I wonder if Mastodon will place if we're talking about awesome drummers.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:26 (fourteen years ago)

I guess this is all a symptom of the net and the way it's bolstered listeners into having "eclectic" tastes. The more websites like Pitchfork are expected to diversify from their original indie-rock template, the more a market opens up for music from disparate styles that somehow fits into this template.

I feel kind of precious for listening to Liturgy and saying "but that's not Black Metal!", but I'd say I'm justified in the same way the Lex will complain about The Weeknd and Frank Ocean - by fitting into this eclectic schema, these acts lose a lot of their edge. Liturgy's all very well, but why listen to these guys when there's probably a grillion more worthy metal albums out there not getting the same kind of attention? Well that's obvious - Liturgy are approachable, they speak frankly and openly in interviews, they're not from inaccessible Scandinavian outback, they don't wear fright make-up and chainmail and they don't go around burning churches and eating each other's brains - all factors which make the genre inaccessible to the casual fan. But if you take these away, what are you left with? A BBFC-approved version of the original style with all the cigarettes airbrushed out. No offence to people who come to metal via Liturgy, however I can imagine the majority of newcomers approach Liturgy as exactly that - a "safe" gateway into a style that bypasses all those difficult hurdles that people have trouble with when listening to albums like Filosofem or Battles In The North. But by avoiding these obstacles, you're not so much jumping in the deep end as wading around in the surf, which isn't really any fun at all.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:26 (fourteen years ago)

i like to imagine he looks like HEALTH's drummer

nathey, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:28 (fourteen years ago)

I don't have much of a problem with anything that dog latin has to say (though I can certainly see arguments against it) except for the assertion that wading around in the surf is no fun. Wading around in surf is totally fun. Seriously. Get to a beach, try it, then tell me you had no fun. You'd be lying.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:31 (fourteen years ago)

Save us, Johnny Fever!

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:33 (fourteen years ago)

Landfill was the big post-Libertines Top 40 stuff like the Kooks, View, Fratellis, etc

This is largely true. However, I will note that the Fratellis' "Chelsea Dagger" is the theme song for the Chicago Blackhawks hockey team. Like, whenever they score a goal, the stadium blares the song and everyone sings along. Kind of funny b/c most people here don't even know who the band is.

jaymc, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:36 (fourteen years ago)

ah, emil.y I guess that's where the rule is dis-proven because I'm completely guilty of "paddling" when it comes to genres like r'n'b, which unlike metal I didn't really have a lot of exposure to in my former years. As a dilettante who's nevertheless willing to hear more, I'm still naturally drawn to the more Pitchfork-y end of the genre (Badu, Monae, Ocean et al). I still find some of the more outré r'n'b tropes hard to grasp onto, maybe even off-putting. And while I'm aware that many will dismiss the above artists as perhaps lacking in something or other, I still find them a useful access point.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:37 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, its so weird that that song is pretty much universally known around Chicago as "that Blackhawks song", sort of like Gary Glitter's "Rock and Roll Part 2" has basically been "the Bulls intro song" since the Jordan era.

(xpost re jaymc's post)

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:38 (fourteen years ago)

I was actually being an annoying literalist, tbh.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:39 (fourteen years ago)

the Fratellis' "Chelsea Dagger" is the theme song for the Chicago Blackhawks hockey team

Hockey + barroom Britpop are basically made for each other. Wasn't Song 2 a big hockey tune?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:39 (fourteen years ago)

The tune from "Chelsea Dagger", incidentally, was written by me when I got my first guitar. Ten years later and it's a big hit. Drat.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:41 (fourteen years ago)

dog latin is rich

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:41 (fourteen years ago)

Erykah Badu was embraced by R&B fans well before Pitchfork was.

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:42 (fourteen years ago)

But I suppose the issue with eclecticism is that it can end up going one of two ways - constant collaging and changing and mixing leading to fresh sounds and new forms, or ending up with a homogenised landscape where everything is mixed up but nothing is on the outskirts pushing in a new direction.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:42 (fourteen years ago)

er that wasn't right

Erykah Badu was embraced by R&B fans well before she was embraced by Pitchfork.

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:43 (fourteen years ago)

Badu maybe not so much DJP, true.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:43 (fourteen years ago)

I was wondering what you were on about there.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:43 (fourteen years ago)

just talking shit, ignore me. when's the countdown gonna return?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:45 (fourteen years ago)

I first heard of the Liturgy album from Doran, a couple of months before it came out. I was p eager about it, and when I saw that some blog had offered a preview track--"Returner"--I snatched it up. I think that turned out to be the second track, ie one of the tracks that ppl on this thread did NOT at all like. But I was very taken with it. I was not familiar with black metal as a genre at all, but even I coiuld tell there was something different about it: I kept feeling like it should have its own genre, like "blue metal" or "sky metal": to these ears at least, that song was all soar and swoop.

The Quietus wrote:

they forge a unique sound that uses the form of black metal not to reflect on the cruelty and isolation of existence but to harness the elemental violence of nature

which to me was otmfm.

Unfortunately, when I finally listened to the album, I found it tedius. Turns out "Returner" was all I needed for them, so I voted for that song high on my tracks ballot, and left Aesthethica off my albums ballot...

I've only heard two Joy Formidable: "The Last Drop" which was nominated in the all-time shoegazer list last year--where I voted for it--and "Whirring". Whirring is okay, but I'm just happy that it turned out that the JFs were the WElsh version of the Silversun Pickups (a far far better band than Yuck)

Drugs A. Money, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:46 (fourteen years ago)

D'oh, I actually didn't mean you then, I meant DJP's garbled post where he seemed to be asserting that R&B fans now love Pitchfork. Which they might do, I guess, I dunno.

xpost

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:46 (fourteen years ago)

loads of xps later

that shd read 'two Joy Formidable SONGS' btw. smh @ myself

Drugs A. Money, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:47 (fourteen years ago)

D.A.M. - I don't listen to BM that much any more at all. I think what I'm saying is people shouldn't just check out Liturgy, give it a quick listen and then stop at that. It's really not that remarkable and the aesthetic angle they're going for has more in common with Mogwai or Liars or Lightning Bolt than any metal I can think of. I really despise myself for saying these things as there's nothing worse than a "True Metal" boor, but hey that's my feeling on the subject.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:54 (fourteen years ago)

Also, only listening to the first track on that Liturgy album is not really the way to go. If you want to sample only one song I'd say either "Returner", "Generation", or "Veins of God" would be the way to go. The first track doesn't really do their approach justice, imho.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:57 (fourteen years ago)

not to reflect on the cruelty and isolation of existence but to harness the elemental violence of nature
see to me, these are sort of the same thing, so i was disappointed when i really didn't hear it. maybe i didn't give it a chance? i like black metal but liturgy just didn't speak to me. it's also possible i was in the wrong mood the one time i gave it a chance...

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:59 (fourteen years ago)

I'll try again if you guys think it's worth it. Sometimes I just feel like I'm biting at the "violent nature" catnip though.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:01 (fourteen years ago)

Well I definitely think Liturgy is distinctly (and purposefully!) far removed from what other black metal bands have been doing. I think its actually easier for someone with little black metal experience to get into Liturgy, but I'm having trouble with spelling out exactly why. For me, I hated Liturgy at first, but once I kind of realigned my expectations and approached it differently from standard black metal, I was able to really appreciate it on its own terms.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:07 (fourteen years ago)

i can totally see why someone who cares about black metal would get annoyed with liturgy and the attention that they've gotten, but i do think they're doing something remarkable. not necessarily better than straight-up black metal but different enough. they might be coming from a different perspective and appropriating black metal tropes, but i don't think it's being done in a cynical way, and they execute it really well.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:11 (fourteen years ago)

Jordan very much otm wrt to that post, they are doing something remarkable and I think a good sign that it works is how many "tr00 kvlt" fans are pissed off by it.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:15 (fourteen years ago)

not to reflect on the cruelty and isolation of existence but to harness the elemental violence of nature
see to me, these are sort of the same thing, so i was disappointed when i really didn't hear it. maybe i didn't give it a chance? i like black metal but liturgy just didn't speak to me. it's also possible i was in the wrong mood the one time i gave it a chance...

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:59 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah, this is what I got - to me BM has to project images and ideas - it's gotta be more than just playing fast and howling. Those first couple of Emperor albums, as an example, have the power to transport me. It's like watching an epic fantasy movie or getting immersed in a good video game. It's supposed to be imaginative, mood-setting, and I don't get that from Liturgy. I also don't understand the distinction in the quote, nor how a number of metal (and hardcore, especially hardcore) bands don't do this kind of thing already. It makes me wonder if Liturgy have actually got the idea of BM completely wrong, making it out to be nothing but cruel, negative ruminations on death when really it's a lot more complex than that.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:15 (fourteen years ago)

how come you never see intense no wave fans moaning about Liturgy shitting up Glen Branca's wall-o-guitar stylings with stupid banshee metal screeching

that's what I want to know

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:16 (fourteen years ago)

Jordan very much otm wrt to that post, they are doing something remarkable and I think a good sign that it works is how many "tr00 kvlt" fans are pissed off by it.

― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:15 (14 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I'm honestly not being facetious here, but what exactly is remarkable about this? To me it sounds exactly like what Liars would make if they decided to "go metal" - I don't see that as remarkable from a metal POV or an indie POV?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:18 (fourteen years ago)

however I can imagine the majority of newcomers approach Liturgy as exactly that - a "safe" gateway into a style that bypasses all those difficult hurdles that people have trouble with when listening to albums like Filosofem or Battles In The North.

Those albums are 15+ years old now. Of course newcomers are going to check out modern bands. Thankfully we haven't hit Classic Extreme Metal era yet like with Rock, where people only check out metal from 30/40 years ago.
Also its rather telling that dog latin brings up older bands as he hasn't listened to metal in about a decade at least so cant name any modern day touchstones.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:21 (fourteen years ago)

and ANYTHING is better than nu-metal or metalcore which have been the biggest commercial sub-genres for 15 years and also the worst thing to hit metal since the shitty glam era bands.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:23 (fourteen years ago)

sure, but i don't see what any of that's got to do with it, Kerr.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:25 (fourteen years ago)

i totally get epic fantasy movie from this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Pt4K7KvJcI

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:25 (fourteen years ago)

To me it sounds exactly like what Liars would make if they decided to "go metal" -

liars or mogwai would never be able to pull off what's happening rhythmically here.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:26 (fourteen years ago)

Imho, Liturgy's approach is remarkable only because they are bringing an entirely new approach to black metal, which has traditionaly been a very rigid genre. I'm not the guy to effectively break down the differences, but when you've listened to a lot of black metal you can get a feel for how different their approach really is. One way I've really noticed is the drumming, which is shift off the rest of the band in a way that you rarely encounter in black metal.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:27 (fourteen years ago)

charlie you need to listen to more metal this year! (and check out good stuff you missed since you stopped paying attention.)

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:27 (fourteen years ago)

i am arguing about metal on the internet!

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:27 (fourteen years ago)

the drummer left Liturgy btw

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:28 (fourteen years ago)

People started to get all upset about Nachtmystium for a while there, and then Liturgy came along and now no one cares how super goth dance "No Funeral" sounds. Do they? (I personally love that song, but I am a Nachtmystium stan/apologist) I guess they will either stick with this sound or ditch it for their next album, thereby illustrating how they were just dressing up as a metal band, etc.

I don't really care either way tbh. I am also arguing about metal on the internet.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:28 (fourteen years ago)

there's more chat about metal on this thread than on the metal poll thread. Where were you guys? Vote next year!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:28 (fourteen years ago)

the drummer left Liturgy btw

i know. :(

do they have a new drummer?

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:29 (fourteen years ago)

People started to get all upset about Nachtmystium for a while there

Ironic considering Nachtmystium was who coined the term Nigel Metal for hipsters getting into black metal.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:29 (fourteen years ago)

the drummer left Liturgy btw

I know, and I'm really bummed about this and curious to see how that affects their next record.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:30 (fourteen years ago)

ha you don't want that, liturgy was the only metal album i listened to this year, unless you count dub trio.

xp

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:30 (fourteen years ago)

I guess we're talking about metal only because there's no Lana Del Rey album to argue about. Next year you will be getting nostalgic..

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:31 (fourteen years ago)

I admit I'm not so familiar with the newer acts, but I am aware that there's a lot more out there than just Liturgy. If Liturgy were blowing my mind I wouldn't have room to complain about them, but as such they're an indiefication of metal who go so far as to write "manifestos" in order to justify their own existence. These manifestos go so far as to disassociate the band with perceived BM tropes, implicitly disparaging those other bands: "We play black metal, but without all the goat-slaughtering and stuff so it's okay" - y'know, as if every BM band before them was hell-bent on sacrificial occultism.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:32 (fourteen years ago)

Fwiw, and keeping in mind I have not yet read HHH's text in full, I don't think they are trying to disparage the old acts as much as emphasize "positivity" in black metal instead of "negativity".

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:33 (fourteen years ago)

we scream about hope v. they scream about despair

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:33 (fourteen years ago)

i don't really know much about black metal but liturgy sound a lot "cleaner" than most modern black metal bands i've heard - they sound really precise and trebley and focused and repetition-based while most modern black metal sounds murkier and wandering. i think liturgy has taken out a lot of the goth/folk elements from the traditional black metal sound. this isn't a value judgement, i just think there's an obvious difference to how they sound instead of just a difference in how they look/present themselves

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:34 (fourteen years ago)

what makes liturgy "indie metal" aside from how they look?

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:35 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah n/a pretty much otm. I also hear a little bit of what Liturgy does in Krallice, to some extent.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:35 (fourteen years ago)

Thing with Liturgy is, if say some ilxors wanted to check out some metal as a way in im not sure I'd say Liturgy. Even if they wanted a way in to BM, I'd pick wittr before Liturgy as a new band/album. Obv you have a good choice of classic 90s era too.
I don't know who i would recommend for other sub-genres. Mastodon are more rock than metal these days. I'd recommend them to peoople who ,miss Qotsa.

If you like clean vox and proggy keyboards Id say go for the new Hammers Of Misfortune (which won metal poll) My #1 was the Corrupted album but I'd never inflict them on the uninitiated (see wiki link for why if you're curious)

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:38 (fourteen years ago)

what makes liturgy "indie metal" aside from how they look?

just playing along, but interest in minimalism?

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:38 (fourteen years ago)

the manifesto is a good point. i think i said it upthread, but i will say it again. that shit reads like a dr bronner's bottle crossed with maharishi school of management jargon. why exactly is it necessary to write a manifesto? i get screaming about hope but i should be able to tell that you are screaming about hope. otherwise, why not let the listener determine/interpret for him or herself?

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:38 (fourteen years ago)

n/a is OTM, which is why I don't have a problem with a black metal band in hipster clothes, but the music also SCREAMS Williamsburg-scene rock. Those Animal Collective-style segues, the Hella-style rhythm patterns, the whole Liars-ness of it. Also think the singing is pointless, almost pisstakey in it's delivery.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:38 (fourteen years ago)

I prefer Krallice to Liturgy too, but I do really like Liturgy (i obv voted for it)

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:39 (fourteen years ago)

you don't have to read it?

xp

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:40 (fourteen years ago)

i know, but i guess i think it's obnoxious that they felt compelled to write it and tell people what their music is "about." can't we figure it out on our own? i think we can.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:41 (fourteen years ago)

Oh yeah, I want to make clear that I'm not fully standing behind the manifesto or the whole "positive" vs "negative" approach, just mentioning other ways that people might be able to make an entrance to the music. Basically, I dig what they are doing, manifesto or no, but like ASR, I prefer Krallice.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:42 (fourteen years ago)

i think maybe you guys are underestimating how many modern metal bands dabble in minimalism and other forms of experimentation

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:42 (fourteen years ago)

xp to Jordan a lot of classic BM is minimal though- e.g. Darkthrone. It's been a strand for a long time.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:42 (fourteen years ago)

or what n/a said

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:42 (fourteen years ago)

Those Animal Collective-style segues, the Hella-style rhythm patterns, the whole Liars-ness of it.

lol this says like 100 x more about your sphere of reference than it does Liturgy's

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:44 (fourteen years ago)

I bought the manifesto for $4 btw. I haven't read it, I just wanted it as a curio really. If people are still talking about it in a decade or so I can say 'oh i have that'. I probably still wont read it though.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:44 (fourteen years ago)

I know it's a completely different thing but listening to Liturgy just made me want to listen to Naked City instead

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:46 (fourteen years ago)

i think Liturgy do a very good job of marketing themselves to specific listeners (i.e. me). i mean, the first record I bought from them was the Immortal Life 12" based solely on the huge TRANSCENDENTAL BLACK METAL printed on the back of the sleeve. coming from noise and drone, i definitely saw the transcendental potential of extreme music like black metal, but I never really saw anyone embracing it as openly

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:48 (fourteen years ago)

also i love the manifesto: more bands should do faux-spiritual self-mythologizing

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:49 (fourteen years ago)

oh no no no no no NO

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:49 (fourteen years ago)

and that is coming from someone who spent five years listening to Insane Clown Posse

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:50 (fourteen years ago)

Also, lets not forget this album was released on Thrill Jockey and not Candlelight or Peaceville. That automatically shifts the target audience in a not insignificant way.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:50 (fourteen years ago)

The manifesto just seems like an underestimation of the listener/super condescending drivel, and I would no sooner like to read his manifesto than read a pamphlet written by a painter that explains his/her painting to me. I can see having it as a curio though. It's definitely a ridiculous gesture on their part. I can ignore it, or at least try to forget that it exists.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:52 (fourteen years ago)

i recommend this interview with the dude from liturgy, he doesn't sound like a dick and plays some good tunes: http://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/39826

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:52 (fourteen years ago)

to me, the manifesto is just play: they're having fun with symbols and mythology. i don't understand the condescending reading of it that most people seem to have

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:53 (fourteen years ago)

btw n/a, i like vorvolakas like 500x more than (what i remember about) liturgy, no exaggeration

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:53 (fourteen years ago)

pamphlet written by a painter that explains his/her painting to me.

you mean like an "artist statement"?

(i hate these btw, although they're usually better than the art that requires a statement. i don't think liturgy's music requires an explanation at all, although it certainly got them a lot of attention.)

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:54 (fourteen years ago)

Those Animal Collective-style segues, the Hella-style rhythm patterns, the whole Liars-ness of it.

lol this says like 100 x more about your sphere of reference than it does Liturgy's

― bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:44 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Mmm... Considering who they are and where they're from and who they hang out with, I don't think that's true at all. Again, I don't have a problem with people appropriating metal; but I'm less up for these guys since they make themselves out to be more than a post-rock band with screaming. Calling themselves a metal band is misleading - this is no more metal to my ears than JJ or Dirty Projectors are R'n'B, and it's disappointing to think that people might check out Liturgy and just stop there thinking that that is what BM is all about.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:54 (fourteen years ago)

xp - yeah i guess so
i have no interest in reading those things

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:55 (fourteen years ago)

I wish I'd have heard vorvolakas in time for my singles ballot.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:55 (fourteen years ago)

who they hang out with

that's a pretty big assumption though? judging from that interview i posted, their influences are basically black metal, old chant/church music, and meshuggah.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:56 (fourteen years ago)

also if they are engaging in play with the manifesto, that's disrespectful of the violent power of nature, which requires no explanation and speaks for itself all the time. they cannot win with the manifesto!

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:56 (fourteen years ago)

i find it kinda funny that on a site that's pretty open minded when it comes to music criticism wouldn't enjoy an artist thinking critically about his art

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:57 (fourteen years ago)

I don't think this site is open-minded about music criticism at all!

It is relatively open-minded about music, though.

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:58 (fourteen years ago)

who they hang out with

that's a pretty big assumption though? judging from that interview i posted, their influences are basically black metal, old chant/church music, and meshuggah.

― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:56 (13 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

by this, I mean they share a lot of musicians with the rest of the Williamsburg scene - e.g. the drummer plays in Dan Deacon's band AFAIK

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:58 (fourteen years ago)

jordan needs to start posting new results so we can stop talking about this

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 15:59 (fourteen years ago)

so where can i go from liturgy, and wittr into trv kvlt black metal? i like blast beats, atmospherics, and white noise sonic assaults

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:01 (fourteen years ago)

isn't Dan Deacon from Baltimore?

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:01 (fourteen years ago)

xp Darkthrone are a good bet. Best drummer in the business IMO.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:02 (fourteen years ago)

dd is from baltimore

nathey, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:03 (fourteen years ago)

60. Lana Del Rey ft. Tyler the Creator – Plays Burzum (293 points, 10 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 1

Spotify

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:04 (fourteen years ago)

it's disappointing to think that people might check out Liturgy and just stop there thinking that that is what BM is all about.

that would be disappointing if it was happening to any meaningful extent yes

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:05 (fourteen years ago)

Save us J0rdan Fever!

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:05 (fourteen years ago)

xp
The Benoit & Sergio remix was robbed.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:05 (fourteen years ago)

lol n/a that would shut down ILM

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:06 (fourteen years ago)

yes, please let's post some new albums. i think i'm starting to protract my argument far beyond where it was meant to go. Liturgy are okay really, just not what I'm looking for.

DD85 - I can only advise on older BM up to about 2004, after that I stopped being so current with it. There are some great rolling threads on ILX and/or the poll which ASR conducted (been dipping in and out of this uncovering a wealth of interesting things). For full on BM blast, you can't go two wrong with Ulver's third album "Nattens Madrigal". I'm a huge Emperor fan, and would recommend their "Best Of" which is called Scattered Ashes. For more experimental stuff, later Ulver albums like the Blood Inside are pretty prog-tastic, as is Arcturus's Sham Mirrors (a personal fave). I have a soft-spot for the Japanese Black/Thrash band Sigh, who are kind of hilarious and terrifying at the same time.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

oh xposts.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:08 (fourteen years ago)

the drummer left Liturgy btw

i know. :(

do they have a new drummer?

― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:29 AM (28 minutes ago)

they're touring in feb (w/ sleigh bells and diplo lol), curious to see if they'll go back to using a drum machine. I feel for those guys, greg fox is not easily replaced.

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:09 (fourteen years ago)

Not sure which will be harder to overcome tbh, losing Greg Fox or touring with Sleigh Bells and Diplo.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:13 (fourteen years ago)

diplo on the drum machine as liturgy's drummer

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:13 (fourteen years ago)

thanks for the recs! xp neil s, dog latin

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:13 (fourteen years ago)

I can't wait for Liturgy to cut an album w the Weeknd!

Drugs A. Money, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:14 (fourteen years ago)

Sleigh Bells >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>^infinity Liturgy

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:14 (fourteen years ago)

"(Bloodied) Crown on the (Darkened) Ground"

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:14 (fourteen years ago)

DJP offtm.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:14 (fourteen years ago)

At this point, fuck everyone who voted for that Liturgy album.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:15 (fourteen years ago)

for the vast majority of popular sphere musicians out there (and I include metal in the "popular sphere"), 2 minute songs > 9 minute songs

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:16 (fourteen years ago)

get me out of this popular sphere

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:17 (fourteen years ago)

Man I was all sorts of mentally otming DJP yesterday, today its like I can't offtm him fast enough. Also, Matt DC needs coffee or something.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:18 (fourteen years ago)

i liked it when the argument was between friday and nyan cat

nathey, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:18 (fourteen years ago)

ah for the halcyon days of nyan cat's silky rhetoric

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:19 (fourteen years ago)

10 minute long dance instrumentals win over either, though

http://youtu.be/O3tiOuKez4Q

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:19 (fourteen years ago)

Nyan Cat's manifesto was worth reading, iirc.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

Good to see all this metal discussion. I have a weird relationship with black metal. Over the past couple decades I've followed the likes of Bathory, Emperor, Meads of Asphodel, Sigh, and especially Enslaved. But it hasn't been my favorite genre lately. I like what Nachtmystium have done recently, and Absu. The Liturgy is pretty good, but I don't think it really surpasses any of the others above. I don't have any problem with Hunter-Hendrix's manifesto. There's a long tradition of artists doing this. I don't think Breton's Surrealist Manifesto took anything away from his art. Artists should be able to defend and articulate their work.

This poll was heavily promoted throughout the metal poll, so expect some more metal!

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:21 (fourteen years ago)

diamonddave/dog latin check out Previous Metal Poll EOY Results Thread

I thought all this liturgy talk would get j0rdan out posting #60 since he really hates metal.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:21 (fourteen years ago)

there's a link to alltime metal albums poll there too which takes you to the needle database and you can look at the 'by-genre' results.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:22 (fourteen years ago)

gonna get this started at the top of the hour

kinda busy at work today, sorry

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:22 (fourteen years ago)

Nyan Cat & transcendental black metal- THE TRUTH:
http://www.last.fm/tag/transcendental+black+metal

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:23 (fourteen years ago)

Nyan Cat's manifesto was worth reading, iirc.

my favourite part was where it said 'nyan'.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:23 (fourteen years ago)

I had come up w/ a list of possible #1 placers:

PJ Harvey
Beyonce
Katy B
Destroyer
Tim Hecker

(many x-posts)

You don' think Eye Contact has any chance to win this?

monster_xero, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:24 (fourteen years ago)

Nyan Cat transcends genres: http://www.last.fm/tag/brutal+black+metal

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:26 (fourteen years ago)

This poll was heavily promoted throughout the metal poll, so expect some more metal!

― Fastnbulbous,

seandalai did a sterling job promoting it but I know how hard it is to get metal punters to vote. A lot of the liturgy voters seem to be posters who did not take part in metal poll. So i wouldn't be surprised if they didn't bother voting.
I do think 1 album is a cert and possibly the 2nd. Anything else would shock me.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:26 (fourteen years ago)

Its possible I guess; maybe more of a chance than Ravedeath 1972 xxp

Drugs A. Money, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:27 (fourteen years ago)

Britney used to be tagged as black metal. So black metal radio played Britney but Britney/pop radio played black metal.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:27 (fourteen years ago)

So next year will there be a Two Lights album in the poll?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:29 (fourteen years ago)

I reckon that Tim Hecker will appear in round about the same place as Emeralds and OPN did last year or maybe just a bit higher.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:29 (fourteen years ago)

btw i didn't vote in this poll or the tracks one, but apparently like talking about albums way more than singles.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:30 (fourteen years ago)

i didn't realize people liked tim hecker so much on here

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:30 (fourteen years ago)

I hope Hecker makes it. Didn't get into my ballot but have since listened a bit more and it deserves to be in this list.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

have no idea what might be wrong with combining black metal with whatever, even if that whatever is "williamsburg-scene rock". i like cross pollination and hate the purity police almost as much as i hate knee-jerk indie bashing. it seems ridiculous to disparage this band by saying that they sound like what the liars or oneida would sound like if they tried to play black metal, cuz those bands don't play black metal, and if they did, i'm sure it'd be both interesting and distinct from what liturgy are up to. the manifesto is funny. it reminds me of deathspell omega's metaphysical ramblings. deep thoughts of this sort are par for the genre.

if the music doesn't appeal, then that's that. if it does, then all this other crap becomes secondary.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

You don' think Eye Contact has any chance to win this?

― monster_xero

Yeah I think that stands a good chance. Pretty sure the top 3 will be PJ Harvey, Beyonce and them. Wouldn't be surprised if the DJ Quik places in top 5 too.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

Meh Kerr I think #3 and esp #4 albums in the metal poll have huge crossover appeal and should do well ~many xps later~

Drugs A. Money, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:33 (fourteen years ago)

(Finally! This thread is hard to post on!)

Drugs A. Money, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:34 (fourteen years ago)

some of these predictions seem pretty out there to me unless i missed some huge chunks of discussion on here earlier in the year (quite probable)

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:34 (fourteen years ago)

eye contact stands no chance of winning this poll

jabba hands, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

femme fatale

nathey, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not too into the album results this year partly because I already know which two of the albums I voted for will place, and I'm 99% sure the rest will not (especially if none of them placed on the first day). And I did a lot of skimming of the albums nominations, enough that I don't expect to make any discoveries from the poll results.

John Gaw Meme (_Rudipherous_), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

On the other hand, I am anxiously waiting for today's results to actually be posted, because it's still some sort of entertainment while I'm waking up.

John Gaw Meme (_Rudipherous_), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:37 (fourteen years ago)

I still wouldn't be surprised if Katy B won. top 5 for certain.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:38 (fourteen years ago)

lol no way is Femme Fatale winning, it will be lucky to be top 10

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

If PJ wins it would be the first ever 'rock' winner of an ILM EOY poll.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

everyone's a winner

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

pretty sure rock stuff has won albums polls before, its the tracks poll it hasn't

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

i know femme fatale won't win :) just throwing support
in a dream world it would be britney at #3 behind saade volume 1 and saade volume 2

nathey, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

PJ Harvey won't win I don't think, but maybe we should save this discussion for Thursday.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

pretty sure rock stuff has won albums polls before, its the tracks poll it hasn't

― ciderpress,

I cant think of one. And people have been saying for years that a rock album hasn't won. We need a thread with all the EOY results on it.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

there was a poll thread of all the EOY results, i can't find it now though

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

I think PJ is likely to win on points - got a feeling it's the kind of album people either love or quite like, so it's likely to get a high amount of votes in some capacity rather than a few rabid fans.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

I was excited about Barbara Panther at first. Great name, interesting story. Her affected Bjork-isms wore me down by track 5 though. Best in small doses. When Saints Go Machine is cool. Bits remind me of Antony, Wild Beasts, Long Fin Killie.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:46 (fourteen years ago)

most of US ILX didn't seem to care about PJH though

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:46 (fourteen years ago)

Only thing that might stop PJ is will enough americans have heard it/liked it enough but it's ILM so it shouldn't really be a problem.
I can see Beyonce beating it though.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:47 (fourteen years ago)

The ILX List of Lists

nathey, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:47 (fourteen years ago)

hah xp with lex

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:47 (fourteen years ago)

nice one nathey. thanks!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:48 (fourteen years ago)

the last PJ Harvey record I liked came out in 1993.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:48 (fourteen years ago)

I had no idea PJH wasn't popular in the States. Before LES I'd frequently forget she was English - always stored her in the American/Alternative category in my mind.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:49 (fourteen years ago)

2003 appears to be geirs top albums not ilm's. LOL

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:50 (fourteen years ago)

PJH has made a lot of good music since 1993, although Rid of Me is probably always going to be my favorite.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

first one today

http://i.imgur.com/1b84y.jpg

60. James Ferraro — Far Side Virtual (295 points, 11 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 316

Spotify

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:52 (fourteen years ago)

okay 2002 winner is massively lol

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

I have no idea who James Ferraro is but points off for putting a fucking iPad on the album cover

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

This was #1 in the Wire's EOY under "controversial" circumstances

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

Still haven't heard the Ferraro. The Wire's number one album of 2011 btw.

ha xp

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

you should hear the music. lol @ people voting for this.

xp to dan

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

It's ok but not an album I want to hear a second time.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

... okay seriously?

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:55 (fourteen years ago)

2003 appears to be geirs top albums not ilm's. LOL

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker

I love this write up he did for his number ten.

Virtually every genre has sort of the crossover album that mixes the genre with elements from lots of other genre in a really ambitious concept album, and creates a classic. "Speakerbox/The Love Below" is basically to hip-hop was "London Calling" was to punk, "Mellon Collie" was to grunge, "Leftism" was to electronica and "Physical Grafitti" was to heavy rock. A truly ambitious album that is sooo much more than just a hip-hop album. Which is probably why it is the first ever hip-hop album to appear in my year-end Top 10 ;)

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:55 (fourteen years ago)

still haven't heard ferraro. Is it like James Blake?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:56 (fourteen years ago)

I mean, if you're going to go for pastichey throwback music, at least go for the epic Hughesian sweep of M83; no one needed a dude to pastiche the incidental music from "Mannequin"

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:56 (fourteen years ago)

2002 - THE STREETS - Original Pirate Material
2003 - no poll
2004 - Kanye West College Dropout
2005 - MIA - Arular
2006 - Knife - Silent Shout
2007 - LCD Soundsystem - Sound Of Silver
2008 - Portishead - Third
2009 - Fever Ray - Fever Ray
2010 - BIG BOI — Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

damn i didn't beat the rollout. sorry j0rdan

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

I predict that Ferraro cover will comfortably out-ugly everything else that will be posted on this list.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

It's an electronic album that sounds like it was made almost entirely from preloaded Microsoft Windows 98 sound effects. Fair play to him for trying it, but good god it's a terrible concept.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

2007 and 2008 count as rock, I'd say?

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

the whole thing is a joke about shitty sounds and a 'commentary on our disposable digital culture' or something, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7u-xHPNIco

xp

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

i guess if you don't consider Sound of Silver a rock record..

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

Wow, really surprised how much I like all the previous winners.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

it's 7 amazing albums and The Streets

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

i dont

xps

i only like the portishead out of the winners

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:00 (fourteen years ago)

none of those albums I'd classify as rock tbh

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:00 (fourteen years ago)

Hmm. Anyway, is anyone here to defend the Ferraro album?

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:01 (fourteen years ago)

I just listened to that youtube. So, no.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:01 (fourteen years ago)

please post another album so I can stop listening to this fucking horrible James Ferraro album, which comes across like the Lambda Lambda Lambda band from Revenge of the Nerds releasing a sellout album

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:02 (fourteen years ago)

hadn't heard of 'No Poll'
checkin it on youtube.... it's awful :(

nathey, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:03 (fourteen years ago)

It's an electronic album that sounds like it was made almost entirely from preloaded Microsoft Windows 98 sound effects. Fair play to him for trying it, but good god it's a terrible concept.

― Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:58 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Oh I've made this album. Veronica Falls, the Fratellis and now this. Shit, so ahead of the curve in dog latin towers..

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:03 (fourteen years ago)

That Ferraro album sounds cool in theory, but it's pretty boring, IMO.

jaymc, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:03 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/mKZ37.jpg

59. Perfume — JPN (298 points, 10 votes, two first place votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 461

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

My first vote to place...

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

argh

post something I can play in Spotify

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

yay perfume!

nathey, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

is this J-Pop?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

that james ferraro track is nowhere near as bad as i thought it'd be - well, i kinda like the piano. but the beat is woefully thin and most of the sounds bring to mind that episode of friends with ross's toy keyboard

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

That James Ferraro totally sounds like KPM library music, Richard Myhill in particular.

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

Perfume sounds like a twee-90s indie band.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

i voted perfume

Mordy, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:06 (fourteen years ago)

xp This is J-Pop btw. My favourite tracks:

Spice: http://youtu.be/1R-fu2jHvrw
natural ni koishite: http://youtu.be/1R-fu2jHvrw

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:06 (fourteen years ago)

i think triangle was a better album than JPN, both very good x

nathey, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:06 (fourteen years ago)

That Ferraro album sounds cool in theory, but it's pretty boring, IMO.

otm
i listened to it 2 times and really have never had the urge to listen to it again, which is strange since 'internet/digital trash' is one of my favorite aesthetics as of late

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:07 (fourteen years ago)

okay even this super-cloying saccharine overdose that is the Perfume album condensed to snippets over 2 minutes is a million times more enjoyable than that James Ferraro album

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:07 (fourteen years ago)

more outloud stuff

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:07 (fourteen years ago)

that Ferraro really is awful. it sounds like a demo album, and a weak one at that.

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:07 (fourteen years ago)

I thought Ferraro would be somewhere between the retro digital sounds of Ford and Lopatin and the academic avant-pop of William Brittelle, but it wasn't as fun as either.

jaymc, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:07 (fourteen years ago)

I didn't vote for Ferraro but enjoyed it the couple of times I played it. I found some beautiful moments in amongst the kitchiness of it, baffles me why it evokes such negative feelings. Must be a linux thing.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:08 (fourteen years ago)

The highs on JPN are higher imo, not sure which I prefer overall though.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:08 (fourteen years ago)

The Outloud room has been brilliant for discovering stuff this year. That is all.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:09 (fourteen years ago)

Perfume sounds like a twee-90s indie band.

There was a mid90s band from Leicester called Perfume, more like a romantic-Bunnymen than twee. I very much doubt their album has ever placed in any list of albums ever.

Les Tressle (useless chamber), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:09 (fourteen years ago)

I'm going to take some credit for forcefeeding this to unsuspecting Outlouders.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:09 (fourteen years ago)

http://youtu.be/yL4aYES4WTQ

lol just stumbled across this

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

can anyone who voted for that james ferraro album explain why they love it so much?

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

listening to wolves in the throne room....first song

this sounds like Dead Can Dance so far

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

YES! Wasn't sure Perfume would place but it did get its own thread on Sandbox with lots of new fans so I was hopeful.

Nakata (producer) is on a scary roll here, every moment filled with melody and crackling sounds you just want to eat up.

Great videos as well
Nee: http://youtu.be/W63nzvIoFJU
VOICE: http://youtu.be/18grnTXq7mc

abcfsk, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

I didn't vote for Ferraro but enjoyed it the couple of times I played it. I found some beautiful moments in amongst the kitchiness of it, baffles me why it evokes such negative feelings.

please post links to beautiful moments, cuz all i've got are negative feelings

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

I don't think i voted for Perfume in the end. It's a solid 7/10 album with some very lovely moments but it just seems like a bit of a throwback to a 90s J-Pop sound that's a little dated for me.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:12 (fourteen years ago)

QUIT SCREECHING AT ME MONSTER MAN! YOU ARE A MEANIE!

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:12 (fourteen years ago)

(that was to wolves in the throne room, not sharivari)

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:12 (fourteen years ago)

Perfume sounds more like the future than a throwback, to me.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:13 (fourteen years ago)

metal is more just Angry Goth nowadaze huh?

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/bFCqs.jpg

58. Grouper — Alien Observer/Dream Loss (304 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: DNP
P&J: DNP

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

didn't vote for it, but I thought the James Ferraro album was interesting. It was much more varied and enjoyable to listen to than one track would suggest, and it doesn't really sound like anything I have ever heard before

Dan S, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

that james ferraro album felt kind of thin and cheap to me

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

did not know there was a grouper record this year

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

oh i didn't know there was a new grouper album. had a lot of time for that "dragging a bloodied stag up an icy hill" record or whatever it's called.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:16 (fourteen years ago)

Haven't heard this, great cover though.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:16 (fourteen years ago)

sold these records for 50 bux a pop back when everyone was like OMG LTD PRESSING

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:16 (fourteen years ago)

don't get perfume, either. sounds utterly generic, but it's not really my genre, so what do i know. ILX taste is increasingly mysterious to me.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:17 (fourteen years ago)

i totally didn't realise grouper had a new album out, i would've probably listened to it. i only have one of hers (i think because it placed in an ilm poll!) - i can't say i'm captivated by it or anything, and it pretty much all sounds the same, but it's really nice music for a certain kind of mood. is this more of the same? i imagine she's an artist who specialises in more-of-the-same (in a good way)

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:17 (fourteen years ago)

definitely more of the same

Dan S, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:18 (fourteen years ago)

More of the same, but really beautiful.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:19 (fourteen years ago)

wow completely forgot that big boi album won last year, such a very sadly ILX choice

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:20 (fourteen years ago)

First listen, but something about the busy metropolitan feel of the Ferraro record reminds me a bit of Different Trains. Maybe it's placement of the voices too. I quite like it I think, but I can quite understand the hate too.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:21 (fourteen years ago)

I don't think Perfume's appeal is one that strikes immediately - on first listen it's just a cute electropop group, on 10th listen it's still a cute electropop group but whoa I've just listened to this 10 times in a row what's going on? It's obviously in-genre but the production in particular has a staying power that others can probably deconstruct better than I.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:22 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/FJ6YW.jpg

57. The War on Drugs — Slave Ambient (322 points, nine votes, one first place vote)

P4K: 39
P&J: 49

Spotify

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:23 (fourteen years ago)

had trouble getting excited about this when the Kurt Vile album sounded so similar (and was much better).

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:23 (fourteen years ago)

wow completely forgot that big boi album won last year, such a very sadly ILX choice

lol, yeah...Big Boi didn't scrape the top of every other music poll on the whole internet. Just ILX.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:23 (fourteen years ago)

Don't think I know who this is.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:24 (fourteen years ago)

too low!!!

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:24 (fourteen years ago)

Listened to those Grouper albums A LOT this year, but I think she overstretched herself a bit. Nice, but not essential.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:24 (fourteen years ago)

the album cover alone should give it a spot in the top 20

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:25 (fourteen years ago)

Sadly this record starts great and goes downhill from there.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:25 (fourteen years ago)

what is the war on drugs

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:25 (fourteen years ago)

I have that Kurt Vile album, the only thing I do have by him, and other than Society Is My Friend, I don't think I understand the appeal. He ranked pretty high on Pazz & Jop, but it's a fairly standard rock LP from what I can hear.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:26 (fourteen years ago)

Cool to see Perfume and The War On Drugs make it. Good job people!

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:26 (fourteen years ago)

i am beginning to think that a lot of my more obscure votes (angel haze, nikkiya, sunny sweeney) won't make it :(

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:26 (fourteen years ago)

american folk rock meets shoegaze/kosmiche xxp lex

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

Philly band doing a modern take on Tom Petty, kinda. I voted for it, but only on the strength of about half the songs if I'm being honest. xps to lex

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

War On Drugs >>>>> Kurt Vile, it's all the droney spacey stuff that pushed the War On Drugs above it for me. Had expected that album to be higher actually, it was top 10 for me.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

Oh man, love love love The War On Drugs record. I was actually disappointed in the Kurt Vile album this year because it was too acoustic meandering for me. It was good, but not what I'd hoped. I found more of what I was looking for with War On Drugs.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

i second the TOO LOW.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

Also, Matt DC otm.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

Okay War on Drugs, listening to the track 'Black Water Falls' on utube. Like it a lot.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:29 (fourteen years ago)

Sounds Dylan-y to me.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:29 (fourteen years ago)

tried to listen to war on drugs, seemed like something i might like but was pretty bored by it

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:30 (fourteen years ago)

that james ferraro album felt kind of thin and cheap to me

this is the whole point iirc

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

Thought I'd like the War On Drugs based on the reviews I saw, but it was a bit meat-and-potatoes and could have done with rocking-the-fuck-out a bit more. Should have learnt my lesson from buying Wilco records when I was told they'd gone "weird".

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:34 (fourteen years ago)

now i'm beginning to think that had i nominated some albums (lapalux, jonwayne, ELOS, balam acab, shlohmo), they might have actually had a shot.

i'm assuming rustie was nominated?

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:35 (fourteen years ago)

Yes, Rustie was.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:35 (fourteen years ago)

Yes, my prediction #23.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:36 (fourteen years ago)

This thread has officially declared war onme. BRING IT ON!

Srsly WoD reminded me of weaksauce Verve; what are the cool droney/spacey tracks?

Drugs A. Money, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:37 (fourteen years ago)

hurrah for Grouper

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:37 (fourteen years ago)

this is the essential war on drugs song imo hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMToQg0vSds

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:38 (fourteen years ago)

Srsly WoD reminded me of weaksauce Verve; what are the cool droney/spacey tracks?

most of the droney spacey stuff happens in between the tracks, 'the animator' is a good transition track, but really works best in the context of the album flow

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:40 (fourteen years ago)

every WoD track reminds me of another band (and i don't mean that as a knock against them). that one is their Arcade Fire track.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:40 (fourteen years ago)

(i meant the youtube link)

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:40 (fourteen years ago)

Ooh, whee, I missed this kicking off again. Voted for Ferraro and Perfume. Totally don't get the Ferraro hate - it's an interesting bit of textural electronica with good noises. Was completely o_O when it won the Wire poll, mind you. It's good, but it's not that good.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:40 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/3u1tq.jpg

55. Mastodon — [/i]The Hunter[/i] (328 points, 10 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 47

Spotify

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:42 (fourteen years ago)

also war on drugs was probably my favorite live band to see this year (2x!! shoudlve seen them that third time)
seeing 1/3 of the crowd leave during the amazing 10 minute harmonica/feedback/sax drone jam was pretty funny

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:43 (fourteen years ago)

Mastodon drums are huge, guitars are thin.

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

Nice to see the Mastodon place! Such a great album and a really wise move for them to slide away from the epic prog thing for awhile.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

(thx dd85 btw)

Drugs A. Money, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

far side virtual is a v gaudy outlier, an extreme mutation of certain threads in modern music mb, & of ferraro's archaeology of information age detritus. occupies a ridiculous position in the musical landscape of 2011, which makes it fun to back in the name of tastelessness & irony (rock out w/ "celebrity chef Gordon Ramsay"). i really love listening to it tho; despite employing all these trashy cheap sounds it's a p massive record & insanely rich considering how well it sticks together. it's not chip tunes; this stuff unfolds in a p epic even glorious fashion in this uncanny environment which is less familiar than it pretends to be. ive never known a record evoke so many peculiar & barely remembered things - everyone comes up w/ different references ive never heard of, which is significant - but those similarities are a pose & it doesn't actually function like Microsoft Musical Instruments demo songs, but instead pulls this weird set of things together in a way that seems so intuitive it feels like it was always grouped that way, but really this is some super sly taxonomy&world-building, built around garish, often v slight sounds. it has a clownish, circuslike quality to it & is wicked psychedelic imo

ogmor, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

I thought Mastodon might place. Good album, I realised many years ago they weren't going to make another Remission. They for me fill the heavy rock void left by Qotsa while Josh took a break.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:48 (fourteen years ago)

the war on drugs are really, really awesome. very unique sound... i generally prefer stuff that is more song oriented but that album is just really cool.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:49 (fourteen years ago)

Nice write-up Ogmor! I agree with you on the psychedelic aspect of it. For all the cheap and nasty sounds, they're layered in a curious and sometimes surprisingly lush and lovely way.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

I had a harder time connecting with the new Mastodon than with their previous albums. Definitely agree that the guitars were too thin or maybe just too low in the mix.

Still voted for it though...

Moodles, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

Do metalheads have a word for people who don't listen to any metal except Mastodon? If so, I'm one of those people - my Soundgarden/QOTSA loving younger self would have approved.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:52 (fourteen years ago)

i think i liked the idea of the mastodon album (return to shorter, unconnected songs) than the concept - maybe it was too long? there's some good stuff on there though.

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:52 (fourteen years ago)

First listen, but something about the busy metropolitan feel of the Ferraro record reminds me a bit of Different Trains. Maybe it's placement of the voices too. I quite like it I think, but I can quite understand the hate too.

― Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:21 AM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah, but different trains is not interesting in the long run because it has a "busy metropolitan feel" (something you could say about thousands of albums/pieces of music). it's interesting because it's complex, rigorous, challenging, distinctive and hypnotically beautiful - in the minds of many listeners. don't see any equivalent value in the ferraro album.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:53 (fourteen years ago)

the band i discovered on the metal poll that sounded like QOTSA (at least to me) were Red Fang. Loved that record.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:54 (fourteen years ago)

On previous albums, it seemed like every song was one awesome riff after another. This one didn't quite do that for me.

Moodles, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

whoops, i skipped 56 like an idiot, sorry

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/NBOaz.jpg

56. Danny Brown — XXX (323 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: 19
P&J: 28

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

can anyone who voted for that james ferraro album explain why they love it so much?

― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012

I voted for Ferraro. Why? Its cheery without being twee and has a bright sound. I certainly prefer it to the Ford & Lapotin or oneohtrix whatever records. I'd call it bright rather than thin

Cashmere Combabe, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:56 (fourteen years ago)

keep meaning to listen to the danny brown album because i like his huzzah verse a lot, keep forgetting to actually listen

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:56 (fourteen years ago)

ogmor's defense of FSV is at least interesting and substantive. in my view it's an overelaborate description of clothes that aren't there, but i can at least understand that other people get something out of the experience.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

Danny Brown. Cool. Must admit I find I have to listen to that pretty selectively ie I won't play it more than once through in a row which is something I tend to do with albums I like. It's pretty wearing. Good though.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:58 (fourteen years ago)

What is Danny Brown? Feel like I'm typing that a lot today.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

rap

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

so mastodon is actually ahead of danny brown?

my tastes in hip-hop in 2011 were just...not what got hype at all. almost every time i listened to a hyped hip-hop mixtape or album i was disappointed, apart from meek mill. but then i totally fell for albums/mixtapes by cousin fik, angel haze, young bleed which literally zero other people cared about.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

could have done with rocking-the-fuck-out a bit more

Yeah, I had that feeling for many years after stuff like Jesus Lizard, Bitch Magnet, Rodan, etc. faded away from indie. Then I realized all I needed to do was listen to actual rock music.

The Mastodon album is actually longer than the epic prog odyssey of Crack The Skye, but it doesn't seem like it. I actually like Crack the Skye more, but The Hunter accomplishes exactly what it set out to do.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

danny brown's been growing on me

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:00 (fourteen years ago)

i can't even remember why i didn't like danny brown. i didn't think it was that bad, it's just that neither his voice nor his words resonated with me and the beats weren't fun.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:00 (fourteen years ago)

seandalai - re d brown here is the unrepresentative metronomy sampling closer
http://youtu.be/UmqU0dqZzAQ

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:01 (fourteen years ago)

Danny Brown is not meant to be fun I don't think.

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:02 (fourteen years ago)

young bleed is awesome lex, I voted for it and would hope that it would place.
xp

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:02 (fourteen years ago)

His delivery is a little un-nerving and weird, but he has loads of skill and he uses production that fits his tendencies.

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:03 (fourteen years ago)

also voted for Young Bleed. In with a chance

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:03 (fourteen years ago)

Voted Holla At Uh Dog in the songs poll, should have placed.

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:03 (fourteen years ago)

danny brown is really fun

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:04 (fourteen years ago)

young bleed is awesome lex, I voted for it and would hope that it would place.

i really wish the goon crew had gathered round "holla at uh dog" more re: the tracks poll, i think it could've blown a lot of non-goons' minds

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:04 (fourteen years ago)

thanks pandemic - I feel I like the idea of the track but I'm not taken by DB himself.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:05 (fourteen years ago)

yay war on drugs
boo mastodon

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:05 (fourteen years ago)

Here is a fun Danny Brown song from last year that wasn't on the album
http://youtu.be/9UFtpSebfdg

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:05 (fourteen years ago)

i forgot the big boi album won this last year. i'm sure i was mad about that but can't remember now.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:06 (fourteen years ago)

i was undecided btw 'holla at uh dog' and 'stamp on it' so ended up going for the album. My fault!
xp

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:07 (fourteen years ago)

Nasty Danny Brown anyone?

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:07 (fourteen years ago)

The Dylan/Petty type vocals are interesting in War On Drugs. I passed on their live show though, as I feared it would be boring. Anyone seen them live?

Stop listening to Mastodon on twee Smurfwick computer speakers and the guitars sound just fine ;)

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:08 (fourteen years ago)

i'm like so over 2011 now btw, can we just like live in the present i mean.

judith, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:08 (fourteen years ago)

Voted for Ferraro and Perfume. Totally don't get the Ferraro hate - it's an interesting bit of textural electronica with good noises. Was completely o_O when it won the Wire poll, mind you. It's good, but it's not that good.

― emil.y, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:40 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I voted for Ferraro. Why? Its cheery without being twee and has a bright sound. I certainly prefer it to the Ford & Lapotin or oneohtrix whatever records. I'd call it bright rather than thin

― Cashmere Combabe, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:56 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

these seem like such indifferent defenses. i get that it's texturally interesting, bright and cheery. i get that it's kind of psychedelic and provides some stimulating irony/not-irony dissonance. i get the sly, andy warhol blankness. but i just don't get how that kind of low stakes conceptual gamesmanship makes it one of the best albums of the year to more than a couple people. its rewards seem so ordinary and its risks so minimal. then again, i don't get perfume, either, so...

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:09 (fourteen years ago)

i'm sure there are some threads round here you can do that in, why not have a look elsewhere?

xp

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:10 (fourteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure that I was the one who voted it #1 (can't recall for sure). It's the only album I keep going back to this year. It's funny, raw, and messed up. His voice has great personality and the beats are great (I know that's contentious).

Regional Tug (irrational), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:11 (fourteen years ago)

but then i totally fell for albums/mixtapes by cousin fik, angel haze, young bleed which literally zero other people cared about.

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:59 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

angel haze was p high on my ballot

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:11 (fourteen years ago)

Prefer the muscle of the Mastodon album to the shenanigans of other two metal records so far. Is there more to come?

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:11 (fourteen years ago)

"danny brown is really fun"

Yeah its just that his albums are hard to get through, which doesn't really scream "fun" to me. Its his production choices that give his work an oppressive edge. He is a fun rapper though yes.

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:11 (fourteen years ago)

Stop listening to Mastodon on twee Smurfwick computer speakers and the guitars sound just fine ;)

― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 6:08 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

YOU DONT KNOW MY SETUP, SON

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:12 (fourteen years ago)

alright, so danny brown was 56, mastodon was 55, now moving on to 54...

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:13 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/ZDGw0.jpg

54. Kendrick Lamar — [/i]Section.80[/i] (337 points, 10 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: 45
P&J: 44

Spotify

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:13 (fourteen years ago)

ah i was bound to fuck up the formatting at some point

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:14 (fourteen years ago)

back to danny brown... it's not fun, and it's a hard album to listen to i think, the production is pretty brutal in places, but the dude flat out raps his ass off, and his voice is up there w/ boosie's imo

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:14 (fourteen years ago)

I love Angel Haze, but her mixtapes haven't consistant for me. Her rapping over 6 foot 7 and Did it on em are crazy, and there's a bunch of great tracks on them but there's a bunch of throw away songs too. Just outside my ballot.

Regional Tug (irrational), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:14 (fourteen years ago)

YOU DONT KNOW MY SETUP, SON

Hopefully better than this:
http://www.fastnbulbous.com/smurfwicks.jpg

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:15 (fourteen years ago)

yay Mastodon

YAY KENDRICK LAMAR (TOO LOW)

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:16 (fourteen years ago)

i liked kendrick lamar's album better than danny brown but it still wasn't anywhere near my ballot - who voted for these two? [instead of etc etc]

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:16 (fourteen years ago)

thought that was a decent showing for kendrick but we're actually behind pfork and p&j

kendrick was in my top 10

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:17 (fourteen years ago)

I voted Danny Brown and Kendrick, two of the best young talents rapping wise and both have very distinct voices. They both choose production that works very well for what they do.

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:18 (fourteen years ago)

Voted for Danny Brown but chose Schoolboy Q over Kendrick

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:18 (fourteen years ago)

Kendrick was my 3 and Danny 6

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:18 (fourteen years ago)

did not like that Kendrick album at all tbh, holding out hope that the Schoolboy Q album is actually better

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:18 (fourteen years ago)

kendrick is cool... philosophizing that's not embarrassing

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:19 (fourteen years ago)

can't take some of the vocalists on Section.80 (that dude at the start of Ronald Reagan Era, gawd...)

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:19 (fourteen years ago)

I voted Kendrick AND Schoolboy Q

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:19 (fourteen years ago)

grouper was my #1! glad to see it show up.

omar little, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:19 (fourteen years ago)

Dig Kendrick just fine. Does this mean Setbacks has a chance of showing up? Wait Setbacks was 2011 right? Love that record.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:19 (fourteen years ago)

oh i liked the schoolboy q album a lot - if i'd heard it earlier that might well have made my ballot

idk i was just more excited about other hip-hop than the ones that got hype i guess.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:20 (fourteen years ago)

these seem like such indifferent defenses. i get that it's texturally interesting, bright and cheery. i get that it's kind of psychedelic and provides some stimulating irony/not-irony dissonance. i get the sly, andy warhol blankness. but i just don't get how that kind of low stakes conceptual gamesmanship makes it one of the best albums of the year to more than a couple people. its rewards seem so ordinary

You are right, they are kind of indifferent defences! I only voted for 4 albums so it didn't take a lot to get in there. I like it just fine as it is, and don't have a problem with it's slightness (also I like library records)

Cashmere Combabe, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:21 (fourteen years ago)

Setbacks was always going to beat Section.80 IMO

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:21 (fourteen years ago)

lex what cousin fik mixtape are you referring to upthread

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:21 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah its just that his albums are hard to get through, which doesn't really scream "fun" to me. Its his production choices that give his work an oppressive edge. He is a fun rapper though yes.

― Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 6:11 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

back to danny brown... it's not fun, and it's a hard album to listen to i think, the production is pretty brutal in places, but the dude flat out raps his ass off, and his voice is up there w/ boosie's imo

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, January 31, 2012 6:14 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^5

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:22 (fourteen years ago)

Cousin Fik was a "fun" listen for sure.

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:22 (fourteen years ago)

hacksaw ben thuggin

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:22 (fourteen years ago)

Cousin Fik -Hacksaw Been Thuggin! It's fun

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:23 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/CItqF.jpg

53. Laura Marling — A Creature I Don’t Know (342 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 89

Spotify

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:24 (fourteen years ago)

the laura marling single floored me but idk, i can't listen to her voice over the course of an entire album, unfortunately

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:24 (fourteen years ago)

eh, this is not my thing

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:24 (fourteen years ago)

it might cause you to walk around singing 'i am a vampire' to yourself mind you, or that may just be me
xxxp

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:25 (fourteen years ago)

I AM A VAMPIRE I AM A VAMPIRE I AM A VAMPIIIRIIEIRIER

I LOST MY FANGS

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:25 (fourteen years ago)

Loved Droop-E's "scary" voice

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:25 (fourteen years ago)

I mean we already have KT Tunstall, do we really need this too

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:26 (fourteen years ago)

Voted for "The Beast" in tracks, didn't feel the rest of the album lived up to the promise.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:26 (fourteen years ago)

I liked the Laura Marling a lot for a couple of weeks, but seem to have forgotten about it since.

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:26 (fourteen years ago)

I mean we already have KT Tunstall, do we really need this too

― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:26 PM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

not fair!

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:27 (fourteen years ago)

okay lol that Cousin Fik song is basically a hip-hop version of "The Days Of Swine And Roses"

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:27 (fourteen years ago)

I like the Kendrick album enough, but it bores me pretty quick. I can't remember if it made my ballot. I'm pretty sure the schoolboy q album should be higher on my list.

Regional Tug (irrational), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:27 (fourteen years ago)

I mean we already have KT Tunstall, do we really need this too

― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP),

we really dont need KT Tunstall

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:27 (fourteen years ago)

marling! my first vote

"the beast" might be the most incredible song she's written - the intensity of how it builds, the power she has at her disposal http://youtu.be/rtCKteAm6jw

"the muse" was another favourite - really illustrates how she's pushing herself forward musically too http://youtu.be/87YKNZyAy50

didn't think the single was actually a standout, and overall i don't think the album was as strong as her last one, but its highs were certainly worth it

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:27 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, not fair. xps

That said, she may have already peaked with her second album. This is more like the first one, which is boring.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:28 (fourteen years ago)

btw did the goons agree on anything this year? it seems not going by this thread.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:28 (fourteen years ago)

i love laura marling's lyrics - throughout the album there's this incredible tension re: who in the narrative holds the power - this section from "the muse" really encapsulates it

you know what I need
why won't you give it me
must I fall down at your feet
and plead
don't you be scared of me
I'm nothing but the beast
and I'll call on you when I need
to feast

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:29 (fourteen years ago)

Anyone who has written Marling off as Mumford-aligned landfill folk should definitely check out "The Beast".

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:30 (fourteen years ago)

back to cousin fik for a sec - "i am a vampire" is the best thing is it not! dropped on halloween iirc too. as i'm fairly sure it won't place, some other highlights

water in the bo
follow you (colombiana mix)
ghost of hyphy
ruthless

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:31 (fourteen years ago)

sounds like a Nightwish lyric
xp

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:31 (fourteen years ago)

the laura marling single floored me but idk, i can't listen to her voice over the course of an entire album, unfortunately

what is it about her voice you don't like? it doesn't strike me as a particularly grating voice...she's a very understated vocal presence

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:32 (fourteen years ago)

There's a few we agree on, I'm sure they will place here soon. xxxxxxps

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:32 (fourteen years ago)

If Laura Boring places and not King Creosote, I may have to reconsider our relationship, ilm

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

so does anyone wanna explain why it's unfair to compare Laura Marling to KT Tunstall or we have we moved on to the "sulk and hate on DJP" portion of the thread

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

That said, she may have already peaked with her second album. This is more like the first one, which is boring.

hmm i don't think so - well firstly i don't think the debut is boring, but "quality of whole album" and "progression as an artist" are different things, and i think a creature i don't know shows enough of the latter to keep me interested in what she does next without necessarily beating its predecessor in terms of the former

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:34 (fourteen years ago)

I've never heard KT Tunstall approach anything even remotely resembling nuance. She's very IN YO FACE all the time. Laura Marling is a lot more varied in her approach to recording/writing.

Unless you were just making a general comment about female singers who play guitar, which I'd like to think you weren't.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:35 (fourteen years ago)

laura marling is much more interesting and cathartic a lyricist than kt tunstall, and much less polite a performer

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:36 (fourteen years ago)

kt is straight-up adult contemporary and marling is a pretty expansive talent who makes darker, more compelling music?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:36 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/blwLa.jpg

52. Aerosmith The Mountain Goats — All Eternals Deck (342 points, 12 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 65

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J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:36 (fourteen years ago)

as well as those cuts off this marling album, i recommend "alpha shallows" and "what he wrote" off the last one

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:37 (fourteen years ago)

i've always got time for a mountain goats record

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:37 (fourteen years ago)

good mtn goats alb, they've had a nice run going after i lost interest for a bit

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:37 (fourteen years ago)

shit, i think i meant to vote for this one but forgot. i'll have to check my ballot when i get home.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:37 (fourteen years ago)

sourdoire valley song really kicked my ass

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:38 (fourteen years ago)

kendrick was in my top 20 somewhere i think but i can't recall if marling was on it. would've voted "the beast" in tracks poll if i'd voted there, for sure

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:40 (fourteen years ago)

Love the mountain goats but still haven't picked this up. Assume it's quality.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

It's quality. I liked the last one a bit more, but this is a really good album.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:42 (fourteen years ago)

Hahahaha. Think I voted for the MG album before this, but didn't even hear this one. Perfectly willing to believe it's good, though.

Also, those Laura Marling lyrics are terrible.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:43 (fourteen years ago)

Laura Marling's voice is more open and her resonance is slightly deeper, but there are strong similarities between the two of them.

KT Tunstall follows the "start soft/tenderish and build in intensity" pattern on her big songs and Laura Marling doesn't seem to ever growl.

"Black Horse and Cherry Tree" did not sound wholly out of place played amidst the tracks on this album; the biggest difference was in production glossiness, with thickness of arrangement coming in second.

laura marling is much more interesting and cathartic a lyricist than kt tunstall, and much less polite a performer

The second half of this is completely wrong based on this album? This is the epitome of polite singing/performing!

kt is straight-up adult contemporary and marling is a pretty expansive talent who makes darker, more compelling music?

It would be more accurate to say KT Tunstall would get played on commercial adult-contemporary and Laura Marling would get played on NPR; the first three tracks on this album have sparse Jewel-with-strings arrangements that might knock them off the playlist but there's nothing going on in performance or lyrics that makes it as unmarketable/unknowable-to-the-masses as you are claiming.

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:43 (fourteen years ago)

btw I am totally abstaining from talking about the Mountain Goats album aside from saying "Age Of Kings" is fucking badass, love those strings to death

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:44 (fourteen years ago)

i didn't say anything about marling's marketability

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:44 (fourteen years ago)

What I'm saying is Laura Marling is also straight-up adult contemporary, it's just that you like her!

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:45 (fourteen years ago)

I don't know about "High Hawk Season". There's some dude trying to class it up in the background.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:46 (fourteen years ago)

back up yall

Perfume on the list! hell yeah JPN was my #1.

I love Nakata's production but what really gets me about that record are the vocals. On this record more than the previous 3, the girls voices are less manipulated overall (besides the Nakata freakouts in Nee and Glitter) and allowed more individuality.

After listening to it so much I've gotten better at distinguishing their voices. The harmonies are so rich here, especially on Spice where the 2 part harmonies segue into 3 and back to 1 again. I love that shit.

Plus Perfume are the most attractive group on this list by far.

Dick Townwolves (Captain Ahab), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:46 (fourteen years ago)

well, not "some dude", but you know.

xpost

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/1PkG5.jpg

51. Demdike Stare — Tryptych (347 points, 16 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 74

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

I like that Demdike Stare, glad to see it make it even though it didn't fit on my ballot.

Regional Tug (irrational), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:50 (fourteen years ago)

not heard it but liked the one in last years poll

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:50 (fourteen years ago)

I keep meaning to get stuff by these guys

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:50 (fourteen years ago)

Kind of meh about Laura Marling, this is the kind of thing I should lap up but leaves me cold. I'd much rather one of the two June Tabor albums which was nominated came up.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

I like that Demdike Stare, glad to see it make it even though it didn't fit on my ballot.

― Regional Tug (irrational), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 6:50 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^ This. Great band.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

Glad this placed, I managed to fit it in at the bottom of my ballot. They're great at atmospheric horror-movie vibes and they manage to keep those vibes fresh over three CDs and I think that's a ballot-worthy achievement.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:55 (fourteen years ago)

they have a good name - it rolls off the tongue. found this out from their bio:


Demdike (aka Elizabeth Southern) was the ringleader of the Pendle Witches. Accused of three murders, she died in prison in 1622 before coming to trial.

▲▲▲▲††††††▲▲▲▲

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:55 (fourteen years ago)

RIP

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:56 (fourteen years ago)

Isn't Tryptych just a rerelease of their last three albums? I only really got into one of their tracks - Haxan Dub, which is amazing.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:56 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/ljupi.jpg

50. Hatchback — Zeus and Apollo (350 points, nine votes, two first place votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: DNP

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J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:57 (fourteen years ago)

that was a great album

judith, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:57 (fourteen years ago)

like that was actually a great album

judith, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:58 (fourteen years ago)

xp Tryptych contains the three LPs from 2010 but also adds a lot of new material.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:58 (fourteen years ago)

i love laura marling and am glad to see her place and disappointed to see djp hating. not as good as the second or first album, imo, but still a strong release -- i think she's really benefited from incorporating more Americana + southern gothic type influences into her music

Mordy, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:58 (fourteen years ago)

Hatchback album is very good but I didn't vote for it.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:58 (fourteen years ago)

i didn't vote in this because i could probably think of like six albums that i really even listened to properly last year but this was maybe my number one

judith, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:59 (fourteen years ago)

well you could have just voted for Hatchback then...

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:59 (fourteen years ago)

Hatchback is the new mondeo pop?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:59 (fourteen years ago)

Yeay! at Ferraro, Grouper, Demdike. Although 'Alien Observer' stands out of the two Grouper 'A I A' albums. I love Ferraro, his conceptual goofballiness, how damn distinctive he is no matter what pallette he's operating with. I kind of fell out of love with Oneonhtrix/Lopatin this year and fell more for JF.

XP

Hatchback = nice

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:01 (fourteen years ago)

I didn't consider voting Demdike bcs of the reissue element. Gah.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:01 (fourteen years ago)

I am not familiar with Hatchback.

Regional Tug (irrational), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:02 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/bkiPl.jpg

49. Moon Duo — Mazes (350 points, 12 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 419

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:03 (fourteen years ago)

Happy to see Moon Duo! It was a late cut from my ballot, so thanks people.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

<333 demdike but i didn't vote for tryptych bcz yeah reissue part

almost read 'hatchback' as 'horseback' (who i did vote for)

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

yeah idk i have like opinions about tracks but its like my god its such an effort to listen to an album. i usually just get into a couple of tracks straight away and move on to something else before i've properly listened to the whole album. the hatchback is weird in that its kindof an ambient album but it is seriously riveting all the way through. like i just get hypnotised by it and go fully zen.

judith, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

I didn't really fall for Moon Duo until hearing it on teh vinyl. Mastering + production job = stunning...I think James Plotkin was involved. Great record.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:05 (fourteen years ago)

like i feel the cosmos vibrate, my chakras are opening can you feel my healing winds etc

judith, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:05 (fourteen years ago)

hatchback = balearic stuff right? i have a few tracks by them but didn't hear that album

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:05 (fourteen years ago)

Moon Duo! Nice! One of my favorite things yet to come out of the Wooden Shjips axis.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:05 (fourteen years ago)

her voice and the spooky atmosphere esp. in the beginning of that laura marling song "the beast" reminds me so much of michelle shocked's first record "the texas campfire tapes" that it hurts. is she michelle's daughter?

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:05 (fourteen years ago)

the Demdike album felt like more of a 2010 thing to me, so didn't really think about voting for it. Not sure it would have made my ballot anyway.

xps basically what everyone else said

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:05 (fourteen years ago)

Hatchback is one of the dudes from Windsurf (lol)

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:06 (fourteen years ago)

Love the moon duo and glad it placed as i cut it from my ballot too.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:06 (fourteen years ago)

Whoop, another one of mine in Moon Duo. I've probably said this a million times now, but I couldn't get past the Doors influence of Wooden Shjips, but MD I really dig.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:07 (fourteen years ago)

Never really got into Moon Duo apart from their Christmas tunes (posts v much in character), prefer Wooden Shjips who sound a bit more muscular to me.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:07 (fourteen years ago)

the title track from that moon duo album is probably the most fun song ive heard all year

≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:08 (fourteen years ago)

Hey this Moon Duo is pretty neat judging by 'When You Cut'

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:08 (fourteen years ago)

i like wooden shjips but prefer moon duo.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

anyone have specific track recommendations by hatchback or moon duo?

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

"Zeus and Apollo" is maybe the most immediate track on the Hatchback album, still all about the Krauty blissed-out beach vibezzz though.
http://youtu.be/f2RkfFDCrWc

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

lex youve been really quiet here compared to the tracks poll. Have you heard anything yet you hadnt hesrd but like?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:10 (fourteen years ago)

the title track from that moon duo album is probably the most fun song ive heard all year

― ≧^◡^≦ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 7:08 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Listening now. :)

pandemic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

i didn't vote but Hatchback was one of my favorite albums this year.

just...gorgeous

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

Moon Duo can do no wrong.

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:12 (fourteen years ago)

moon duo is great. especially this monster of a song. keyboard "riffs" rule!

http://youtu.be/RqcBjZmUbSU

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:13 (fourteen years ago)

I loved the Moon Duo album but considered it too old for a 2011 list.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:13 (fourteen years ago)

Krauty blissed-out beach vibezzz

How to sell me on a record in five words or less. I need to check out this Hatchback.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:13 (fourteen years ago)

I loved the Moon Duo album but considered it too old for a 2011 list.

It came out in 2011 though!

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:14 (fourteen years ago)

hatchback was my #1, was hoping it would place higher. very well-executed new agey ambient balearica, miles better than anything else the guy has done (save for maybe "white diamond"?). "orinoco waltz" is my favorite track fwiw

also love far side virtual. not going to try to explain WHY, cause it was sort of an obvious, immediate connection for me, and if you don't get it off the bat you are a lost cause imo

psychgawsple, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:14 (fourteen years ago)

lex youve been really quiet here compared to the tracks poll. Have you heard anything yet you hadnt hesrd but like?

not really. it's harder to check out new albums (especially as my hard drive died at the weekend and took my entire music collection with it). other than marling and wruhme, i wasn't enthusiastic about any i'd already heard. i checked out a few tracks of the ones i haven't heard but nothing's grabbed me, though hatchback might be the likeliest yet. (well i assume i'll like grouper but i also assume i know what it sounds like and can hear it at my leisure)

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

yeah "white diamond" is the old hatchback song i liked

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

w.r.t. the title track, i love how they perfectly mix the poppy boppy vibe with the soaring wanky psych guitar solos

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

I might be wrong but it I am sure I was listening to it in summer 2010. I might be losing my marbles.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:16 (fourteen years ago)

Pleasantly surprised that moon duo placed - I liked it well enough.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:17 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/Tj5oC.jpg

48. Tom Waits — Bad As Me (352 points, 14 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 5

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J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

xp

Maybe you are thinking of Escape?

My initial reaction to the new one was "too poppy" and "too repetitive" but those riffs drove their way into my brain in a good way.

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

I might be wrong but it I am sure I was listening to it in summer 2010. I might be losing my marbles.

The Escape EP was from 2010, but Mazes came out in March of 2011.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:19 (fourteen years ago)

Didn't vote for the Waits, but its a good record. I picked a good time to check back in on him.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:20 (fourteen years ago)

Didn't really like the Moon Duo album the one time i heard it, but forget the nature of my gripes.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

Ah Bad As Me, which I voted for and gave a positive write up when it came out, but now...? I dunno, I've gone right off it. Too many dull ballads and hoary rockers. I'd say there are maybe four decent tracks here but I skip so much off this thing. Do like Let's Get Lost and Hell Broke Luce.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

Was kind of like Wet Hair iirc? xp re Moon Duo

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

lex i'd be pretty surprised if you didn't like the Hatchback album. really should've placed higher, imo.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

demdike stare and moon duo = my first votes to make the countdown. yay!

i've cooled on the former a bit since late 2010/early 2011, as their assembled body of work tilts a little too steeply towards spooky aural wallpaper for my taste, but the high points (in my estimation, the denser and more beat-driven tracks like "forest of evil dawn" and "repository of light") are spectacular.

moon duo are easily my favorite thing to come out of the wooden shjips axis, and mazes is leaps and bounds beyond anything they've done prior. could listen to the title track forever. so effortlessly cool and catchy. motorik beach pop!

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

oh tom waits, nice. didn't quite make my ballot but i was really pleasantly surprised by it - it sounds like he really enjoyed making it, it has this fantastically unforced feel to it - just tom being tom and doing what he's best at. these were my favourites

talking at the same time
hell broke luce
last leaf

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:24 (fourteen years ago)

tried to listen to laura marling's "the beast" but couldn't make it through

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:24 (fourteen years ago)

Demdike Stare is fantastic, but I didn't vote for it because I kind of thought of it more as a comp/reissue.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:24 (fourteen years ago)

only played the TW album once so far but Hell Broke Luce completely owns

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:25 (fourteen years ago)

basically a really nice balance between drunken rollicking explosions and chants / sentimental balladeering / casting a caustic observer's eye over the financial crisis

xps

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:25 (fourteen years ago)

Lex, I agree it's def Tom's chillin out having fun being human album - think that's what made me like it in the first place, but I do miss his more character-based/theatrical side.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:26 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/wl1sI.jpg

47. Clams Casino — Instrumentals (354 points, 12 votes)

P4K: 17
P&J: 61

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:26 (fourteen years ago)

cannot stand Last Leaf! Chicago and Face to the Highway are both great (among the other quality tracks mentioned)

XPOST

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:27 (fourteen years ago)

oh god i just can't be bothered with clams casino until and unless rappers rap over it

so bored of 2am lonely laptop music in any case

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:28 (fourteen years ago)

Man. So many albums I literally haven't even heard of. I'm excited.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:28 (fourteen years ago)

ooo ooo ooo ooo ~melancholy~ ooo oooo ooooooooooooooooooooooozzzzzzzzzzzzzz

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:28 (fourteen years ago)

Clams is sweet. Shame 'I'm God' wasn't on the mixtape though, that's amazing.

XP

LOLex

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:29 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.residentadvisor.net/images/reviews/2010/dialcd22.jpg

cover connexion

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:30 (fourteen years ago)

clams is cool... he has a few classic beats but the actual rap songs are good enough that i don't see the point of the instrumentals

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:30 (fourteen years ago)

what does this sound like?

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:31 (fourteen years ago)

i am CONCERNED yall. we're 20 albums in and my favourites are by TOM WAITS and LAURA MARLING. and my favourite new music i've heard this week is by LEONARD COHEN. what is happening to me!!!

otoh i am downloading this hatchback album based on the awesome title track. wish i'd known about it last year, i felt like i wanted music like this a lot. psychgawsple did you like the almunia album?

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:31 (fourteen years ago)

i mean karl...

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:32 (fourteen years ago)

or er both of you

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:32 (fourteen years ago)

i like but don't love clams, prefer his music with rappers too.

so bored of 2am lonely laptop music in any case

so reductive

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:32 (fourteen years ago)

Ha, that John Roberts album is songreat and none of you bastards voted for it last year at all. Clams Casino was like the Balam Acab record for me, pretty but kind of dull.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:33 (fourteen years ago)

lex, also check out White Elephant's Sir John (plus Mark E Remix) and Torn Sail's Birds.

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:34 (fourteen years ago)

I like that Clams album a lot. Surprised it's this low, to be honest.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:34 (fourteen years ago)

Lex you being a tom waits fan is so crazy to me! In a good/unpredictable way

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:34 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, i voted for the Almunia album. i think my ballot was unweighted, though. i couldn't pick 25 albums to fill it out.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:34 (fourteen years ago)

lex, also check out White Elephant's Sir John (plus Mark E Remix) and Torn Sail's Birds.

love both of these - they were on a great compilation called future balearica that i had. past tense. gone in my hard drive death ;_;

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:35 (fourteen years ago)

lex i bet all your faves are much higher in poll if tracks results are anything to go by.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:35 (fourteen years ago)

Thought the Almunia album was ok (the title track is a jam) but it was only like my 5th favourite beach vibez album of the year after Hatchback, Gatto Fritto, Out of City and probably something else I'm forgetting.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:36 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/Ri9hd.jpg

46. Azari & III — Azari & III (358 points, 12 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 737

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:36 (fourteen years ago)

Demdike Stare is fantastic, but I didn't vote for it because I kind of thought of it more as a comp/reissue.

― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 11:24 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah, but i figure that if an album got okayed by the nomination process and the sounds contained are among my favorites on the choose-from list, then that's reason enough to throw it some points. a big part of my goal is to bring attention to music that i think deserves it, and i don't want technical considerations to limit me in that regard.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:37 (fourteen years ago)

I was stunned by how much I loved that Azari & III record.

contenderizer - that's fair, I just didn't even see it on the nom list tbh

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:38 (fourteen years ago)

yeahhhhh azari & iii!

actually i'm not sure this quite made my ballot either but it's a super great album - undecided was my favourite of the previously unreleased tracks

they've come such a long way, can't believe they'll be supporting madonna on her next tour. they should be fucking producing for her

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:38 (fourteen years ago)

a & iii put on a fantastic live show too - "into the night" as final slow dance <3 <3 <3

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:39 (fourteen years ago)

Really happy that Laura Marling placed, I suppose the difference between her and KT Tunstall is largely the darkness (ie she is 1x massive goth) - I think of her as closer to Will Oldham than any of the Mumfords set.

Also Laura is a better songwriter by fucking miles.

Hatchback is just precision loveliness.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:40 (fourteen years ago)

A few hours late with this since I've been cooking/hosting dinner, but the Ferraro is a fun album - breezy/blank but quite psychedelic and non-intuitive in how things are assembled. One of my dearest friends has been raving about Ferraro for a few years now, so I view Ferraro via my friend's more artworld kinda axis (Cory Doctorow/Paper Rad/etc). High concept, sure, but not any more low-stakes gamesmanship than, I dunno, Brian "Windows 95 sound" Eno's ambient stuff. Reminds me a bit of 50s generic happy modern machine music & other optimistic chintz - cheers me up a lot more than the other ambient-y stuff I was listening to this year (Roll the Dice/Blanck Mass/Hauscka/etc).

ogmor probably put this better tbh.

etc, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:40 (fourteen years ago)

i was pretty shocked that azari & III finished in the 700s in P&J

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:40 (fourteen years ago)

despite absolutely loving the pre-album singles i still haven't gotten to that azari & III album

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

does anyone have like a list or mix of good clams casino songs with rappers?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

This is the point I realise that Yob wont place :( I knew Corrupted wouldn't. The top of metal poll doesn't always translate over to doing well in big poll.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not even sure the metal poll winner will place now.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

I think "Manic"/"Undecided" were great but not sure how well the Azari & III hangs together as an album - better than the new H&LA, but not a patch on, say, the H&LA debut.

etc, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:42 (fourteen years ago)

does anyone have like a list or mix of good clams casino songs with rappers?

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:41 PM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lil b - i'm god
squadda b - fakest year ever
lil b - motivation
asap rocky - palace
lil b - cold war

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:42 (fourteen years ago)

I voted for both Danny and Kendrick (the latter of whom was my #4), so stuff it, lex!

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:43 (fourteen years ago)

I'm running a bit behind here, but just chiming in to say I really enjoy that Laura Marling album. It's got kind of a '70s singer-songwriter vibe to my ears: sprawling song structures, wide dynamics (too few albums recorded with headroom like that these days), confessional lyrics. Not sure exactly who it reminds me of. I also dig her voice a lot. My fave track is probably "Salinas" but there are many good ones. They're best heard in the context of the album though. I should probably go back and check our her previous work.

o. nate, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:43 (fourteen years ago)

ASAP Rocky 'Wassup' probably ended up my favourite Clams production jobbie of the year.

XP

Lil B 'Motivation' killer also, yeah. Can't see a Lil B record scraping in here, iirc 'Angel's Exodus' was hovering around the bottom end of my ballot.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

Checkin and diggin the Moon Duo album

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah the Laura Marling was a great discovery for me, I really like the vibe.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

couldn't get into the Azari & III album at all, nothing was as good as the singles which i was already sick of

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:45 (fourteen years ago)

Checkin and diggin the Moon Duo album

― Number None, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:44 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

me too! this is good

what label put this out?

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:46 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/glodu.jpg

45. The Weeknd — House of Balloons (360 points, 10 votes, two first place votes)

P4K: 10
P&J: 13

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:46 (fourteen years ago)

uh oh

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:47 (fourteen years ago)

Uh - ohs

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:47 (fourteen years ago)

Sacred Bones (xpost re: Moon Duo)

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:47 (fourteen years ago)

Haha xp!

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:47 (fourteen years ago)

Azari album is cool, but didn't vote for it.

xp lawl

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:47 (fourteen years ago)

i guess 45 is pleasingly low for this worthless shit

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

TWO first place votes?

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

the first weeknd album is still pretty cool imo, i think it was at the very bottom of my ballot

everything after that has been totally unneccesary tho

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, 45 is way below basically like any other list that has rated this

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

BOOM!

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

A DIGRESSION: ok listening to this hatchback now, this is ~vibez~

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:49 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, 45 is way below basically like any other list that has rated this

ilx is like the one place i'm confident will have some non-superstar r&b actually above the weeknd and frank ocean

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:49 (fourteen years ago)

does anyone have like a list or mix of good clams casino songs with rappers?

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:41 PM (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lil b - i'm god
squadda b - fakest year ever
lil b - motivation
asap rocky - palace
lil b - cold war

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:42 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ty!!

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:50 (fourteen years ago)

azari and iii sounding pretty good. can't get a handle on hatchback, but maybe i need to save it for a more contemplative moment. liked the weeknd album, but not enough to vote for it.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:51 (fourteen years ago)

A DIGRESSION: ok listening to this hatchback now, this is ~vibez~

OTM. Very much regretting not voting for Hatchback now...

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:52 (fourteen years ago)

i kinda like that weeknd album. what's there to hate? i like gifts. especially if they contain music worth to listen to.

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:52 (fourteen years ago)

I would add Lil B's "What You Doin" to the Clams list

Number None, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

Everyone on ILM seemed to love the Hatchback record; I thought it was a bit nothingy, and nowhere near as good as his previous one, Colors of the Sun. I should give it another go.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

ilx is like the one place i'm confident will have some non-superstar r&b actually above the weeknd and frank ocean

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend)

Really hope that Raphael Saadiq is one of the albums that places higher.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:54 (fourteen years ago)

they should package this hatchback album with a bottle of campari

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:54 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not even sure the metal poll winner will place now.

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 11:41 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

gave it a ton of points, but yeah, sadface. think i may have wasted my #1 vote too (a "metal" album that did ok in 2010), but at least it was sincere [/linus]

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:55 (fourteen years ago)

i love Colors of the Sun, too. you can't really listen to Z&A while sitting at the computer waiting for something to happen imo.

xposts

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:55 (fourteen years ago)

i love Colors of the Sun, too. you can't really listen to Z&A while sitting at the computer waiting for something to happen imo.

i can vouch for this

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:56 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i hoped the album you mention might place too but i dont think so now. Even though it came out in N America in 2011 its still a 2010 album to most people.
Pity, I was looking forward to lots of "I didn't know they had an album out this year" "oh its a different band of the same name?"

xp

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:57 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/tkzXV.jpg

44. Fucked Up — David Comes To Life (360 points, 13 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: 33
P&J: 11

Spotify

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:58 (fourteen years ago)

some really amazing guitars on this one but I can't get over the vocals - which for people who like it are probably the key to the record.

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:00 (fourteen years ago)

My first place vote, absolutely love this album but I think this was pretty well hashed out in the singles results thread.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:01 (fourteen years ago)

let's have another 50-post digression about hardcore vocals now!

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:01 (fourteen years ago)

sorry, I missed that!

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:02 (fourteen years ago)

paging DJP, paging DJP

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:03 (fourteen years ago)

Loved this album, though it did drag after a few listens. Can't remember how high it was on my ballot.

Regional Tug (irrational), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:03 (fourteen years ago)

sorry, I missed that!

― skip, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:02 PM (40 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah sry that wasnt meant to snark you just to relive fond memories of a week ago

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

really great record

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

have been following this discussion pretty well, i never knew how many haters there are on ilm.

marc iv, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

was really enthused about this when it dropped, can listen to some tracks in isolation, but that's about it

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

it's a fabulous record, i'd like to see it place higher. concerns about the length and sameiness are well-founded but it just sounds so good i don't really care.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:05 (fourteen years ago)

how can someone listen to a band who gives itself such a moronic name? after i had listened to their album i knew why, apparently the only memorable thing about them is their name.

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:06 (fourteen years ago)

Giving this a listen now. I expect to like it unless the vox are as bad as made out. but if its not death metal cookie monster grunting then the vox are prob fine

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:07 (fourteen years ago)

ok nothing wrong whatsoever with these vox

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:07 (fourteen years ago)

funny thing about that fucked up record is that while i wasn't really feeling it at the time (standard complaints about the vocals) and still can't sit through the whole thing at once, i almost always dig the individual tracks when they come up on shuffle - especially if, as on "queen of hearts", they've got someone else singing for a bit. if i'd done a tracks ballot, that song would have scored high.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:08 (fourteen years ago)

so many ilxors had never heard hardcore vox before?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:08 (fourteen years ago)

i like fucked up but the whole thing of people marveling about OMG A SHOUTY HARDCORE BAND GOT A BONER FOR THE SOFT BULLETIN gets a bit much

also no one who listens to black metal gets to complain abt hardcore vox

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:09 (fourteen years ago)

As opposed to a great name like tUnE-yArDs or Hatchback? I mean, come on with that argument.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:09 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/gHe8j.jpg

43. Real Estate — Days (361 points, 11 votes, two first place votes)

P4K: 9
P&J: 32

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J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:10 (fourteen years ago)

not sure if i voted that 1 in this poll, but it was #1 on my p&j ballot

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:10 (fourteen years ago)

It's good stuff, just way too long and relentless for me to have ever heard the entire thing in one listening. Queen Of Hearts was one of my favourite tunes of the year, the rest does pretty much the same thing in different ways.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:10 (fourteen years ago)

what in the world does the soft bulletin have to do with that fucked up record?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

seriously these vox are no different to all the hardcore vox i listened to in the 90s. What is so off-putting other than the fact you maybe dont dig hardcore? Contenderizer im surprised at you re the vox.

I really like this so far

xp

oh cool Real Estate!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

Love love that Real Estate album too! We're on a great run here.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

Days is such a great little jangle rock record.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

xxxpost Sorry, that was about Fucked Up, not Real Estate who I don't think I really understand yet.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

this is p4k indie right?

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

also no one who listens to black metal gets to complain abt hardcore vox

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown),

who was that aimed at?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

Nothing really sticks out on Days (the cover is appropriate) but what a great vibe. I found myself listening to it three or four times in a row at work.

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

Hmm...have to say I dug the previous album but this was a big let-down ("It's Real") aside.

two lights crew (seandalai), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

if it is Lex, p4k is improving.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

yeah it doesn't 'feel' like a #1 album of the year, but i returned to it a ton, and it's so, so good at what it does that i just played it more than anything last year

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

This is Feelies worship indie.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

like that real estate record, it feels slight but i think jangle pop is kinda slight by nature

also no one who listens to black metal gets to complain abt hardcore vox

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown),

who was that aimed at?

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:11 PM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

no one in particular, just cutting it off before it starts

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

Not a bad band to worship.

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:13 (fourteen years ago)

my gf totally stole days and stashed it in her car so i haven't gotten to listen to it nearly enough

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:13 (fourteen years ago)

I knew I liked her.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:13 (fourteen years ago)

:)

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:13 (fourteen years ago)

i like this record, didn't make my ballot but the first few tracks are especially nice, and i love the hypnotic groove the last track settles into at the end

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:14 (fourteen years ago)

well i like the fucked up record so far so you cant say it about me.
but BM vox are different to hardcore and clearly some prefer one to the other (or hate both)

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:15 (fourteen years ago)

Man, "Green Aisles" totally stands out for me, but the vibe on the whole record is fantastic.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:15 (fourteen years ago)

I hope they explore the sound of that last cut a bit further. Really nice evolutionary step.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:15 (fourteen years ago)

but I really dont get the hatred for this guys voice at all.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:16 (fourteen years ago)

The Real Estate is another one I voted for. Very monochromatic, but for this type of music that's a compliment. Sort of early REM meets Unrest meets Heavenly. Nails that wistful-happy-sad vibe perfectly.

o. nate, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:16 (fourteen years ago)

this is dreadful. i'm trying "it's real" and it's just so aimless and feeble...sounds like it should be soundtracking a tv advert for a washing powder called nostalgia. oh look the video is basically a fucking instagram tint stretched out and they look like complete douches.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:16 (fourteen years ago)

Im hoping Woods might place now. That would be great. Always disappointed they didn't make it in previous years.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:17 (fourteen years ago)

If Lex doesn't like it it's bound to be good.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:17 (fourteen years ago)

haha lex you're always saying things like 'feeble'. You prefer strong and muscular music?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:17 (fourteen years ago)

Listening to "It's Real." Sounds more swedish than jangle to me -- I imagine that if I listened to this 10 times I'd find it really dug into me, the way those Club 8 records do, but I'd have to listen to it 10 times to find out. "Slight" is about right.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:18 (fourteen years ago)

so many ilxors had never heard hardcore vox before?

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:08 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i like fucked up but the whole thing of people marveling about OMG A SHOUTY HARDCORE BAND GOT A BONER FOR THE SOFT BULLETIN gets a bit much

also no one who listens to black metal gets to complain abt hardcore vox

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:09 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

have heard tons of hardcore vocals over the years (love john brannon, for instance), but 9 times out of ten, "hoarsely bellowing angryman" is not a sound i enjoy. at least not in recorded music - can def be cathartic live. i'm more a punk than a HC fan, and when i do like HC, i like it in small doses & with the tuff-guy shit dialed down.

dying crow style BM vocals are much easier for me to digest, probably because they seem more weird than belligerent - the he-man testosterone frenzy isn't such a factor.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:19 (fourteen years ago)

Sort of early REM meets Unrest meets Heavenly.

Lacks the urgency of early REM and Unrest, lacks the amiable amateurishness of Unrest and Heavenly

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:19 (fourteen years ago)

Marling was my #1, btw. I don't prefer this LP to her previous one, but I do think it is more of a piece, and I like the darker route she's heading down lyrically. She's probably the most interesting young singer/songwriter around atm.

Also voted for the Tom Waits and Fucked Up.

There was one track on the Grouper album I was quite taken with, but the album didn't find a place on my ballot in the end. Couldn't really get into it.

DavidM, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:20 (fourteen years ago)

haha lex you're always saying things like 'feeble'. You prefer strong and muscular music?

i like slight records when they're very still, like phaedra or mirel wagner

slight jangly guitar pop is my idea of hell though to be fair

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:20 (fourteen years ago)

like that real estate record, it feels slight but i think jangle pop is kinda slight by nature
no way. lots of music i love, i mean LOVE, could be classified as jangle pop: the feelies, the smiths, the whole sarah catalogue etc. but it does not feel slight by any means. it may feel bright or light but not slight. not sure about that real estate yet, the vibe is great but i am not sure about the quality of the songs.

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:21 (fourteen years ago)

Jesus you guys, how do you like your milquetoast in the morning?

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:21 (fourteen years ago)

it's nice sometimes not to have a songwriter telegraph 60 seconds in advance exactly when a song is going to end.

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:22 (fourteen years ago)

this fucked up album is really good. Why didn't I hear it earlier.
It just missed out in metal poll top 125 I think.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:25 (fourteen years ago)

a fucked up album cannot be good, it can only be fucked up. which it is by the way. q.e.d.

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:27 (fourteen years ago)

it's just so aimless

so wrong.

My number 1. Based solely on the fact that it was by far the most-listened to album of 2011 for me. First few times it felt like 'nice vibes' and great for driving on late summer days etc....but somewhere around the fifth or sixth time "Municpality" and the final track started clicking and I began to like every individual track. I think it's too straightforward to be considered some sort of paragon of P4k indie. Tellingly my mother asked if it was "easy listening". Lovely stuff.

encarta it (Gukbe), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:27 (fourteen years ago)

Jesus you guys, how do you like your milquetoast in the morning?

Guilty as charged, though for me it's more of an evening background music album. If I focus on it too much, it can become slightly annoying.

o. nate, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:28 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/nzVwd.jpg

42. Radiohead — King of Limbs (362 points, 13 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 33

Spotify

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:28 (fourteen years ago)

sadly, my #1 being a less hyped indie record than Days means it's probably out of the running

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:29 (fourteen years ago)

a fucked up album cannot be good, it can only be fucked up. which it is by the way. q.e.d.

rmde

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:29 (fourteen years ago)

oh right there was a radiohead record this year

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:29 (fourteen years ago)

found King of Limbs dull. then again it took two years for me to come around to In Rainbows so...ya never know.

encarta it (Gukbe), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:29 (fourteen years ago)

very sad that new Radiohead/Yorke albums are no longer exciting.

skip, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:30 (fourteen years ago)

i listened to the second half of this way more than the first half

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:30 (fourteen years ago)

Shit of Limbs more like.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:30 (fourteen years ago)

especially "Codex" which was really pretty

ciderpress, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:30 (fourteen years ago)

i loved that real estate record but i dont think i voted for it

same for war on drugs-- honestly assumed most ILM ppl would hate it!

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:31 (fourteen years ago)

Hey do you guys like the band Radiohead?

billstevejim, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:31 (fourteen years ago)

42 counts as low enough to count as a victory right?

i didn't know there was an actual radiohead album out, they always seem to be in the background getting in the music press for marketing their music in some unexpectedly quirky guerrilla fashion and i always try to pay as little attention as i can

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:33 (fourteen years ago)

I quite liked Little By Little and Give Up The Ghost, but they're more like quite decent b-sides than anything else.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:33 (fourteen years ago)

Save us Johnny Fever!

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:33 (fourteen years ago)

#42 is accurate. It was good enough to place.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:34 (fourteen years ago)

last one for the day real quick

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:34 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/ynGFR.jpg

41. Andy Stott — Passed Me By/We Stay Together (363 points, 13 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 157

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:34 (fourteen years ago)

Fuck yeah

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:35 (fourteen years ago)

my relation to radiohead is strange. when i heard "creep" it made an impression. everything else until amnesiac totally passed me by. amnesiac ruled my world in 2001. the next one, name forgotten, was still good though a little on the too mcuh on the stadium rock side of things. everything after i didn't care anymore. i have the feeling their big time is over. and i don't regret it.

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:36 (fourteen years ago)

I've enjoyed TKoL whenever I've played it, and I put it on the lower half of my ballot after one such listening session...but tbh the only song I remember anything about now is Little by Little.

ban opinions (reddening), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:36 (fourteen years ago)

i tried to get into andy stott last year but couldn't, neither made much of an impression, rather like actress previously. i don't think i "get" music this abstract

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:36 (fourteen years ago)

TOO LOOOOOW

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:37 (fourteen years ago)

sorry about my terrible english...

and what does rmde mean, jon?

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:37 (fourteen years ago)

I can get behind the Andy Stott, even if its a just an album length exploration of sidechain compression.

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

this one is such a grower, took me about 3 months of listening to it a couple times a week and then it just completely flipped my wig

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

White Denim's album is worth checking out if you kind of want Radiohead to get off their electronic horse and get onto something else.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

can someone post a list of all the albums so far thx

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:40 (fourteen years ago)

Andy Stott's pretty good, yep.

emil.y, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:40 (fourteen years ago)

The best Radiohead song from this year was "The Daily Mail", imho.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:40 (fourteen years ago)

I only got the Andy Stott very recently.. A good companion to this is Perc's 'Wicker & Steel' album, which didn't get nominated but has more of a pummelling techno style.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:41 (fourteen years ago)

42 counts as low enough to count as a victory right?

i didn't know there was an actual radiohead album out, they always seem to be in the background getting in the music press for marketing their music in some unexpectedly quirky guerrilla fashion and i always try to pay as little attention as i can

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend)

Sometimes it seems like you're happier when artists you hate place low than when artists you actually do like place high or at all. Also if you do try to pay little attention why do you bother to posting when Radiohead do appear in these lists? I think everyone on here knows just how much how you hate them by now. I'm not a fan of this album by the way, just wondered why you have to comment everytime they appear?

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:41 (fourteen years ago)

xp to Radiohead: The moment in "Codex" where the horns come in is really startling and happy-making. There's something very "movie score" about this song and it's working for me.

"Little by Little" -- love this opening, the notes are very carefully strewn around in a late-Pavement kind of way (but it may just be the guitar tone that's making me think of Pavement here.) Love the way the drums are insistent but very quiet.

I'm also a guy who never listens to Radiohead, but this may just be a stupid mistake on my part.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:43 (fourteen years ago)

never heard of andy stott before but this track "dark details" sounds interesting (except the technically slowed down vocals)

http://youtu.be/bHweamNAkjY

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:43 (fourteen years ago)

never really heard about sidechain compression before, looking it up...

so is that how stott creates that vacuum on the bass drum hit that makes my entire room throb?

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:44 (fourteen years ago)

my problem with real estate (since i'm contractually obligated to have a problem with 6 out of every 7 albums listed) is that "fake blues" is so incredibly fucking great. maybe it's unfair to damn a band for being overshadowed by a single favorite song, but so be it. "fake blues" got me interested in real estate and matt mondanile/ducktails a couple years back, but it also hung heavy over their debut album, calling attention to the fact that, absent a few more tunes of that caliber, the pleasant vibes just aren't enough. days doesn't even have one song that hits me as hard.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:44 (fourteen years ago)

this threads going to be all about how you all hate Radiohead until J0rdan posts the next album tomorrow isn't it?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:45 (fourteen years ago)

certain albums are going to receive 15 "fuck this shit" posts immediately after they show up because that's what people here do. usually these are the ones i like, which is frustrating.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:45 (fourteen years ago)

billstevejim sums up my I Love Music experience succinctly.

polyphonic, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:47 (fourteen years ago)

defend the albums if you like them! i wouldn't mind if my favourites got "fuck this shit" reactions, it'd just make me ride harder for them

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:47 (fourteen years ago)

..and that cycle rarely ends well ime
i have vowed to truly stfu until i have something that is worth saying

La Lechera, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:48 (fourteen years ago)

it can be enlightening to find out what people w/different listening experiences to me dislike in things i find flawless, anyway

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:48 (fourteen years ago)

never really heard about sidechain compression before, looking it up...

so is that how stott creates that vacuum on the bass drum hit that makes my entire room throb?

yes

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:49 (fourteen years ago)

thread has maybe felt tetchier than usual? i guess the albums poll brings in a wider constituency than the tracks one

rob, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

I think I'm enjoying "Dark Details' (A. Stott) but it's actually sort of hard to concentrate on it -- is that normal? Also kinda hate the cover.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

less tetchier than previous years (so far anyway)

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:51 (fourteen years ago)

I really liked the Moon Duo tracks from last year I heard on Spotify - like with Veronica Falls they wouldn't have sounded out of place at the first ATP and would have been considered somewhat old-hat then, but Moon Duo are really good at what they do. They know their way around a good noisy spacerock riff - bet they're amazing live, will check out the album.

I wish I liked the Azari & III album more than I do, Reckless is amazing (like top five single of the last few years for me) but not much else of the album is in the same league. They have these two amazing diva frontmen who aren't given enough room to shine.

I'm glad The Weeknd album is getting the level of debate here it deserves (ie none). King of Limbs certainly has its moments but there are too many songs that sound simultaneously overworked AND half-finished (Little By Little ffs).

The Fucked Up album is amazing and fun in short blasts but exhausting in its entirety, I think. And the story is impossible to follow.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:51 (fourteen years ago)

diamonddave: sidechain compression (aka ducking) has been used for decades (probably back to the early 70s) to keep kick drums clear in mixes. French house exaggerates it as an aesthetic element in its own right, and there's a lot of dubstep that plays with the sound (my favorite example being Blue Daisy's Space Ex). Andy Stott is the minimal version, where there's so little else going on the entire focus is the ducking sound.

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:51 (fourteen years ago)

Andy Stott sounds pretty dark and creepy.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:52 (fourteen years ago)

xp
yeah, maybe it just feels that way to me b/c the tracks one is fresh in my mind

rob, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:52 (fourteen years ago)

RE: Stott - I loved night jewel when it came out (and some of the claro intelecto stuff) but haven't got that much into anything else by him, should give this a play at some point, don't really understand album format for this kind of thing though

Cashmere Combabe, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:52 (fourteen years ago)

it's weird looking at the early eoy threads that were linked to early and seeing how dead they were. Though I remember the threads from the time and they just didn't interest me. Didn't even vote til 2005 maybe?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:52 (fourteen years ago)

Teebs "Ardour" is also a good way to understand sidechain compression

rob, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

There should be little to no debate about this album by "The Weekend", it's one of the glorious music Statements of the year (2011.)

omar little, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

if tuneyards is top 10 then i guess thread might be tetchy then but the p4k loved stuff seems to be low this year so haters are happy with that 'victory'

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:55 (fourteen years ago)

xp thanks for the info on sidechain, interesting to find out the technical details on one of my favorite parts of the album

here's one of my fav from the two if anyone's interested in hearing more: hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl3gdkC2Xrk

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:55 (fourteen years ago)

lol I was in a meeting and missed several cues

i love laura marling and am glad to see her place and disappointed to see djp hating

This may be upsetting to many ppl here but I don't actually hate KT Tunstall so that comparison, while somewhat negative, was really more of a troll than anything else. Laura Marling seems to be perfectly fine but I'm probably not going on her mailing list.

re: Fucked Up, duh of course that album was going to place after the massive boner displayed for it on the tracks thread. Still kind of cracking up that when I listened to it, there was virtually no difference between the song that placed on the tracks poll and the song that followed it, down to the tempo and the key.

I have no opinion on anything else that placed.

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:57 (fourteen years ago)

btw even though it's not my thing I will be psyched if tune-yards goes top ten just on strength of technical achievement

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:58 (fourteen years ago)

(my favorite example being Blue Daisy's Space Ex)

blue daisy album was awesome! reminded me a lot of massive attack's mezzanine.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:58 (fourteen years ago)

this is a p cool list although the only album i voted for was zeus and apollo

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:59 (fourteen years ago)

lex: Blue Daisy just missed my ballot. Gobs of atmosphere, but the singles had the tunes.

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:59 (fourteen years ago)

I tried to listen to a couple of Azari & III singles, but IMO the vocalist's nervous/thin/indierockish vocal style feels totally out of the place with the house music beats. Are all of their tunes like this? Isn't anyone doing classic, gospelly house vocals anymore?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:01 (fourteen years ago)

good sirs i am of the opinion that the andy stott album is a terrible depressing mess i want no part of but i whole-hardheartedly endorse your right to relish it with great passion

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:02 (fourteen years ago)

Tuomas, try this: http://open.spotify.com/track/22QlnkZkann673OZ3W7rBp

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:03 (fourteen years ago)

hey more of my votes! Moon Duo, Demdike Stare, Grouper... nice.

sleeve, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:09 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah just dropping by now, very pleased to see Demdike Stare and Grouper place!

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:11 (fourteen years ago)

60. James Ferraro — Far Side Virtual (295 points, 11 votes)

didnt vote for this but its an interesting record. i thought it was a p empty pose the whole digital detritus concept but the songs are better than i initially gave them credit for. i dont really get the pysch thing tho, this the sound of emptiness, of the blank spaces btw thought

58. Grouper — Alien Observer/Dream Loss (304 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)
57. The War on Drugs — Slave Ambient (322 points, nine votes, one first place vote)

this is total pseud music and everyone voting for these should be ashamed.

56. Danny Brown — XXX (323 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)
54. Kendrick Lamar — Section.80 (337 points, 10 votes, one first place vote)

i like both of these a fair bit although i prefer lamar's.

50. Hatchback — Zeus and Apollo (350 points, nine votes, two first place votes)

fantastic record, think i had it #3 or #4 on my ballot. requires some deep listening imo

41. Andy Stott — Passed Me By/We Stay Together (363 points, 13 votes)

this and demdlike and to an extent moon duo are sorta right on the edge of music that i really like w/o managing to generate much interest or excitement in me. this record in particular just seemed... not good, in a way that isnt even interesting to dissect

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:12 (fourteen years ago)

Dan, that was kinda cool, but lacking in house beats.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:13 (fourteen years ago)

I am glad both Stott's releases were banded together. Hopefully Cass McCombs ace double will chart in a decent position as well. I have really got into C M in the last year. I am getting into him backwards (f'narr f'narr) in that I have only just got into Catacombs.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:15 (fourteen years ago)

I find it amusing that everybody hates the odd Radiohead album I like. I am cool with them making sexy makeout jams.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:16 (fourteen years ago)

that andy stott might be a depressing mess but somehow it sounds like i would have liked burial - into whom i never got - to sound. btw i like my dose of sadcore.

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:16 (fourteen years ago)

I don't hate KoL but I don't really remember it at all

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:17 (fourteen years ago)

best thing about the not-bad stott album was the cover art imo. might have to give it another shot, though. grouper's twofer was pretty much the best double release of the year, though.

omar little, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:18 (fourteen years ago)

gr80 otm re Stott

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:18 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not following dance music that much these days, but it kinda feels that ever since the "indie electro" boom of the 00s, the vocal lineage of gospel -> soul -> disco -> house has been broken, and classic dance vocals have been replaced by thin, rock-influenced, abrasive and/or whiny singing styles. Where are the Robin S.'s of today?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:19 (fourteen years ago)

(several x-posts)

Tuomas, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:19 (fourteen years ago)

Teebs "Ardour" is also a good way to understand sidechain compression

^^^at first i had a hard time listening to it because of the extreme sidechain comp ratios, but i guess i'm so inured to it now that it doesn't bother me. it's definitely a key musical technique of that record.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:23 (fourteen years ago)

I don't hear indie at all on Azari and iii.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:23 (fourteen years ago)

i enjoy king of limbs when i listen to it and then i forget it exists. in rainbows was way better.

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:23 (fourteen years ago)

Where are the Robin S.'s of today?

http://thenewgay.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/robyn-opt1.jpg

Getting plenty of ilx love on the tracks list.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:24 (fourteen years ago)

i find veronica falls incredibly grating, but i can't really articulate why

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:25 (fourteen years ago)

That's a different Robin/Robyn, people tend to mix them up because of the similar names, and because both had a hit single called "Show Me Love".

Tuomas, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:26 (fourteen years ago)

Where are the Robin S.'s of today?

still in deep house, funky house etc? monique bingham, marissa guzman, natalie may, ruby lee ryder, terri walker. and katy b obv.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:26 (fourteen years ago)

I don't hear indie at all on Azari and iii.

― I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:23 PM Bookmark

^^^

tuomas, what the hell are you on about?

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:27 (fourteen years ago)

Haha I know Tuomas, I was trying an unsuccessful zing based on that celebrities hanging out thread.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:27 (fourteen years ago)

but yeah azari & iii have pretty classic male diva singers so i have no idea where the "rockishness" thing comes from

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:29 (fourteen years ago)

can someone try to explain the hatchback love to me? i know nothing about the album except the title track but that is a boring ambient, easy listening piece going into no man's land. inoffensive, harmless, superfluous. is that how the album is?

http://youtu.be/f2RkfFDCrWc

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:30 (fourteen years ago)

listening to fucked up now. i do like this. it's like if leatherface made american idiot.

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:33 (fourteen years ago)

I don't hear indie at all on Azari and iii.

― I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:23 PM Bookmark

^^^

tuomas, what the hell are you on about?

Well, I only listened to a couple of tunes that I found on Youtube, but the vocals on this tune, for example, feel much more in line with shouty indie-electro and electroclash (and 80s synth pop that inspired them) than with house music. That's why I asked if all of their tunes are like that, because I like the beats, but not the vocal style.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:33 (fourteen years ago)

But I'm listening to this one now, and the vocals are much more pleasant on it, so I guess I just came across the wrong examples?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:35 (fourteen years ago)

Tuomas can you point me in the direction of these shouty indie-electro and electroclash vocalists who sound kinda like Darryl Pandy??? xpost

tumblring dice (crüt), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:36 (fourteen years ago)

oh wait that's just the vocals pitch-shifted down an octave

tumblring dice (crüt), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:37 (fourteen years ago)

Tuomas can you point me in the direction of these shouty indie-electro and electroclash vocalists who sound kinda like Darryl Pandy??

I don't get this? I was trying to say that they don't sound like Darryl Pandy, and that I kinda miss that style. Even these more divaish Azari & III tunes are not melismatic enough, as nice as they sound.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:40 (fourteen years ago)

Andy Stott is great commuting music, especially in the dark evenings.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:51 (fourteen years ago)

it's like if leatherface made american idiot.

hahaha that brings back some memories. Leatherface reformed a few years back for some gigs didn't they?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:55 (fourteen years ago)

I mean, the problem I've had lately with the dance music in these polls is that it's either cool and mannered, or harsh and aggressive, and while this kind of stuff can be great, those ends of the spectrum are not what I most enjoy about club music. Where are all the magnificently melancholic or upliftingly joyous tunes?

(x-post)

Tuomas, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:55 (fourteen years ago)

XP

In fact, I'd say that listening to the Colin Stetson, Julia Holter, and Andy Stott records almost in rotation on commutes home in the autumn winter helped me to love each of them more. They're an oddly compimentary trio.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:56 (fourteen years ago)

Also isn't there another Leatherface out there now? I have to remember its not frankie stubbs getting good reviews

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:58 (fourteen years ago)

did y'all hear that blue daisy remix of jamie woon? pretty epic: http://soundcloud.com/bluedaisy/jamie-woon-nightair-blue-daisy

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 21:59 (fourteen years ago)

Leatherface never split and are still making great records. Don't compare them to Fucked Up though, they're leagues and miles better than them.

Found the Azari album really grew on me - also found only the 2 big singles were working for me at the start, but repeat listens led to me liking it all a whole lot. Fantastic production!

Was also mega surprised by how much i enjoyed the Real Estate. They're basically Mccarthy without the politics, and i fucking love Mccarthy.

Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:02 (fourteen years ago)

Mush by Leatherface rules

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:09 (fourteen years ago)

it does. Im getting all nostalgic listening to it now on spotify

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:10 (fourteen years ago)

guys this is the 2011 thread

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:12 (fourteen years ago)

"Manic" is like their fifth single and is p much them switching things up a bit with these manipulated vocals after doing straight-up male diva on all the singles before that, which are all on the album.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:13 (fourteen years ago)

Mush really is one of the best British records in any genre. It's SO GOOD.

Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:24 (fourteen years ago)

listen to the wind
drink a lot of gin

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:32 (fourteen years ago)

listen to the wind
drink a lot of gin
video gaaaames

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:36 (fourteen years ago)

damn, you beat me to it :)

future debts collector (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:38 (fourteen years ago)

Would love to hear the Andy Stott played loud on a decent stereo, I think my shitty set-up (not to mention my neighbours) have been a barrier to getting the most out of it. You can sense the weight of the music even on headphones though, almost like a suffocating sensation at times.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 00:22 (fourteen years ago)

Didn't vote for it anyhow though, and still have 0/25 so far

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 00:24 (fourteen years ago)

Given up hoping that the Roman Flugel album will appear, definitely one of my favourite techno albums from this year and really strong from start to finish. Anyone who enjoyed the Robag Wruhme record should check it out, probably a better listen overall imo.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 00:27 (fourteen years ago)

yep, i voted for the Roman Fluegel. if i had done a weighted ballot it would've been number one.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 01:15 (fourteen years ago)

king of limbs is going to be the radiohead album that people who are paying attention rep for in 5-10 years in spite of the fact that it got slagged of now, sorta like sonic youth's 'goo' or pj harvey's 'is this desire.'

try again, fascist (Matt P), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 01:40 (fourteen years ago)

yes yes *gives reassuring pat on the head*

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 01:46 (fourteen years ago)

Its not an awful album by any means, just not exciting enough to really be worth talking about - and I usually ride for Radiohead.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 01:50 (fourteen years ago)

kevin arent you like sixteen?

try again, fascist (Matt P), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 01:54 (fourteen years ago)

forgive me, i mean, in college

try again, fascist (Matt P), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 01:56 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i'm really smart for 16 tho

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 01:57 (fourteen years ago)

smart aleck more like

try again, fascist (Matt P), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 01:59 (fourteen years ago)

Is This Desire didn't get slagged off when it came out. It was #1 in p&j, wasn't it?

Dan S, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 02:04 (fourteen years ago)

#7

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 02:17 (fourteen years ago)

ur thinking of to bring you my love. 'king of limbs' blew me away last year and im cool, i promise!

try again, fascist (Matt P), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 02:25 (fourteen years ago)

yes you're right I'm thinking of to bring you my love, my favorite pj harvey album

I definitely went through the arc of curiosity -> fascination -> immunity with her

Dan S, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 02:31 (fourteen years ago)

I don't think it breaks new ground and I'm not sure it will be remembered, but the perfect balance and serenity of that Real Estate album strikes me as a kind of genius

Dan S, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 02:38 (fourteen years ago)

Lol "King of Limbs" is the first RH album I've liked in years

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 02:43 (fourteen years ago)

I feel like Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea gets ignored sometimes, but it was #2 in the 00 Pazz Jop. I still love that one. This last one not so much.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 03:29 (fourteen years ago)

yes that was another very good one, i think and iirc it was given a very bad review by p4k

Dan S, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 03:41 (fourteen years ago)

I feel like Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea gets ignored sometimes, but it was #2 in the 00 Pazz Jop. I still love that one. This last one not so much.

― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, January 31, 2012 7:29 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my favorite PJH album this side of rid of me and the 4-trk demos, doesn't get half enough credit around these parts

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 03:55 (fourteen years ago)

Stories is indeed a great record. I prefer it to To Bring You... and Is This Desire? by quite a margin.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 03:57 (fourteen years ago)

i thought stories was her biggest critical and commercial success pre-LES? mercury prize and so on. also her worst solo album by some distance. i mean obv PJH has always had good reviews but SFTCSFTS got a lot of "finally this scary weirdo has made a happy classic rock album" type reactions.

for me, it's

is this desire? > let england shake > to bring you my love > dance hall at louse point > white chalk > dry > uh huh her > 4-track demos > rid of me > stories from the city, stories from the sea > a woman a man walked by

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 09:03 (fourteen years ago)

mor eon topic, i'm listening to the hatchback album as my first-thing-in-the-morning soundtrack while catching up on the news and the internet and it's PERFECT, i love how low-key it is in its psychedelia - every so often a tiny detail emerges from the general mood and catches my ear

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 09:06 (fourteen years ago)

is this desire? > let england shake > to bring you my love > dance hall at louse point > white chalk > dry > uh huh her > 4-track demos > rid of me > stories from the city, stories from the sea > a woman a man walked by

I guess theoretically it's possible that AWAMWB is the worst (I haven't heard Uh Huh Her and never properly got into White Chalk so I'm not sure) but I love it so long that seeing it at the end of that list makes me sad.

Rid of Me way too low on that list though.

The Hathback is great, yes. It was near or even in my top 10 IIRC.

Tim F, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 10:00 (fourteen years ago)

Hatchback

Tim F, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 10:00 (fourteen years ago)

Lol "King of Limbs" is the first RH album I've liked in years

Yeah, me too. Actually, I never thought I'd enjoy another Radiohead album again.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 10:12 (fourteen years ago)

i didn't really get into anything on AWAMWB - even though i think SFTC's overall aesthetic is boring, its high points are pretty high.

UHH is definitely worth hearing - it's better when it's understated rather than in-your-face which might be a reason it gets overlooked, but songs like "the darker days of me & him", "the slow drug", "it's you"...all magnificent.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 10:14 (fourteen years ago)

not heard this hatchback record before
absolutely wonderful stuff

nathey, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 10:20 (fourteen years ago)

I liked the Hatchback album (definitely more than the Windsurf one I listened to) but didn't vote for it - like so many records this year (incl. Toro Y Moi) it was a case of hearing it once, thinking it was pretty good then never feeling the urge to go back to it.

Also Lex, sorry to read about your HD failure upthread!

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 10:34 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah I meant to say I'm sorry about your hard drive - that sucks. Did you have any sort of backup?

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 10:40 (fourteen years ago)

no because it WAS the backup! except it became the main music drive anyway.

i salvaged what was on my ipod which is a good start, and have decided to start from scratch rather than pay silly money for data recovery (tried the cheap option but obviously i am so cursed that cheap, easy fixes re: technology never apply to me). it is a bit liberating except when i remember all the random shit i spent ages tracking down online :( albums are easily recoverable, old mixes and obscure '90s remixes less so :(

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 10:57 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah :-( this has happened to me before, perhaps the worst part is that it's actually very easy to forget the existence of the old mixes and obscure '90s remixes entirely, and then one day they pop into your head and it's like you suddenly realise you can never go back home to that moment when you had that obscure remix and it was so important to you.

Tim F, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:02 (fourteen years ago)

i think there's something important in the fact that the VERY FIRST SONG that sprung to mind when this happened, the trigger for the first wave of panic "shit what if i don't own this any more", was the polow da don remix of fantasia's "when i see u"

(it was on my ipod - obv! can't go anywhere without it in my pocket - so it's ok.)

(you may see me disconsolately bumping threads in the coming months asking for "help" with this matter)

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:10 (fourteen years ago)

listening to fucked up now. i do like this. it's like if leatherface made american idiot.

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:33 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol. Did not know that there was a band named leatherface so thought this post was referring to leatherface from Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I was v intrigued by the idea and after listening to some Fucked Up tracks was totally on board with this comparison!

pandemic, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:28 (fourteen years ago)

I'm so terrified that my hard drive is gonna crash someday... xp

Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:38 (fourteen years ago)

Hatchback was in my top ten as well. I thought the ILX massive would place it higher on this list tbh. Glad to see some people listening to it for the first time now, it's such a classic album.

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:43 (fourteen years ago)

can someone post a list of all the albums so far thx

― tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

77. When Saints Go Machine — Konkylie (258 points, 10 votes, one first place vote)
76. Robag Wruhme — Thora Vukk (262 points, 8 votes)
75. Liturgy — Aesthethica (264 points, nine votes)
74. The Joy Formidable — The Big Roar (266 points, seven votes, one first place vote)
73. Jay-Z & Kanye West — Watch the Throne (266 points, 10 votes)
72. Barbara Panther — Barbara Panther (270 points, seven votes, two first place votes)
71. Toro y Moi - Underneath the Pine (271 points, nine votes)
(tie) 69. Wild Flag — Wild Flag (273 points, 10 votes)
(tie) 69. Low — C'Mon (273 points, 10 votes)
68. ILX Presents Lulu (276 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)
67. Veronica Falls - Veronica Falls (282 points, 11 votes)
66. Big K.R.I.T. - Return of 4Eva (288 points, 10 votes)
65. The Psychic Paramount - II (290 points, 9 votes)
64. Wolves in the Throne Room - Celestial Lineage (290 points, nine votes, one first place vote)
63. Austra - Feel it Break (290 points, ten votes, one first place vote)
62. Drake – Take Care (292 points, 8 votes, one first place vote)
61. Lykke Li – Wounded Rhymes (294 points, 10 votes)
60. James Ferraro — Far Side Virtual (295 points, 11 votes)
59. Perfume — JPN (298 points, 10 votes, two first place votes)
58. Grouper — Alien Observer/Dream Loss (304 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)
57. The War on Drugs — Slave Ambient (322 points, nine votes, one first place vote)
56. Danny Brown — XXX (323 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)
55. Mastodon — The Hunter (328 points, 10 votes)
54. Kendrick Lamar — Section.80 (337 points, 10 votes, one first place vote)
53. Laura Marling — A Creature I Don’t Know (342 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)
52. The Mountain Goats — All Eternals Deck (342 points, 12 votes)
51. Demdike Stare — Tryptych (347 points, 16 votes, one first place vote)
50. Hatchback — Zeus and Apollo (350 points, nine votes, two first place votes)
49. Moon Duo — Mazes (350 points, 12 votes)
48. Tom Waits — Bad As Me (352 points, 14 votes)
47. Clams Casino — Instrumentals (354 points, 12 votes)
46. Azari & III — Azari & III (358 points, 12 votes)
45. The Weeknd — House of Balloons (360 points, 10 votes, two first place votes)
44. Fucked Up — David Comes To Life (360 points, 13 votes, one first place vote)
43. Real Estate — Days (361 points, 11 votes, two first place votes)
42. Radiohead — King of Limbs (362 points, 13 votes)
41. Andy Stott — Passed Me By/We Stay Together (363 points, 13 votes)

pandemic, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:47 (fourteen years ago)

While I knew that some people here were into Hatchback, I don't have the impression that it broke out of the usual suspects for beach vibez or that it got much attention outside ILM. So I think #50 is a decent showing.

two lights crew (seandalai), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:51 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, maybe because of my own enthusiasm for it, having learned about the album through here, I was under the impression it was hueg here. You are right.

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:53 (fourteen years ago)

fwiw (SPOILERS) Zeus and Apollo is the highest-placing album that got 0 votes in Pazz and Jop, so it's definitely outperforming its broader reception on ILM.

two lights crew (seandalai), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:57 (fourteen years ago)

A great list so far. Lots of things that I've either never heard of or haven't bothered to check out yet. I'm at a total loss as to what will and won't place now. Really hoping Jon Hopkins & King Creosote get some love from ILM.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:59 (fourteen years ago)

^^ I threw it quite some love DL, got to learn and love it through you!!

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 12:00 (fourteen years ago)

voted for:


62. Drake – Take Care (292 points, 8 votes, one first place vote)
54. Kendrick Lamar — Section.80 (337 points, 10 votes, one first place vote)
53. Laura Marling — A Creature I Don’t Know (342 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)

kendrick was my #1 actually. it's not a perfect album: it's way too long and the production is mostly tame but rapping-wise i think kendrick is really creative and wanted to give him a boost in this poll. i think ppl like danny brown for the same reasons but he hasn't really clicked with me yet.

drake's persona is mostly annoying but i listened to 'take care' loads. if the ppl voting for youtube cover versions of his songs on the tracks poll can't even admit they like the production then idk..liking music must be exhausting for you.

was a really weak year for rap albums in general.

the emancipation of me-me (tpp), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 12:13 (fourteen years ago)

Voted for:

59. Perfume — JPN (298 points, 10 votes, two first place votes)
51. Demdike Stare — Tryptych (347 points, 16 votes, one first place vote)
47. Clams Casino — Instrumentals (354 points, 12 votes)

Perfume was in my top 10 and I'm delighted it placed...Demdike Stare and Clams Casino are two of the three or so albums on my ballot that I'm not absolutely sold on, but I did listen to and enjoy them all through the year and I think they're solid releases.

two lights crew (seandalai), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 12:24 (fourteen years ago)

I voted for these:

1st place: 77. When Saints Go Machine — Konkylie (258 points, 10 votes, one first place vote)
12th place: 48. Tom Waits — Bad As Me (352 points, 14 votes)
24th place: 44. Fucked Up — David Comes To Life (360 points, 13 votes, one first place vote)

WSGM are a weird band - really imagerous stuff that makes me want to write stuff like "cyborg monks singing twilight industrial ballads" or something. I like how the first half is exceedingly mellow and that no drums really kick in until halfway through the second song. It gives later tracks like Kelly and Terminal One a lot more impact. Think checking this band out song by song dilutes them a little bit and they end up sounding like another Knife-like act. I've said it a lot of times - it's worth listening to as a piece.

Tom Waits album is pretty good, or at leas it has its moments. There's very little character acting here - it's almost like the album he'd have made if he'd never gone down the Swordfishtrombones route. Fans of Alice, Bastards, the Black Rider won't really enjoy this, but of Waits' "ragged-rocker" era, this is his most fun.

Fucked Up - I know very little about this band outside of this release. I'll maybe have to go back to it as so far it's given me the gift of Queen Of Hearts, which was a top three track for me, but outside of that I've only scraped its surface.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 12:37 (fourteen years ago)

77. When Saints Go Machine — Konkylie (258 points, 10 votes, one first place vote)
72. Barbara Panther — Barbara Panther (270 points, seven votes, two first place votes)
67. Veronica Falls - Veronica Falls (282 points, 11 votes)
61. Lykke Li – Wounded Rhymes (294 points, 10 votes)
49. Moon Duo — Mazes (350 points, 12 votes)

Three of these five (WSGM, Lykke Li and Barbara Panther) were in my own best-of list that I made in December, so I'm pleased to see them make the top 77 here. In fact, I'm already happy to have five things I voted for appear here out of the 37 that have placed so far.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 14:33 (fourteen years ago)

I've only voted for Psychic Paramount, but I was looking through my ballot and I expect seven more albums to place

Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 15:15 (fourteen years ago)

I wasn't sure about this poll initially but there is a cornucopia here to check out: thanks ILM!

Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 15:17 (fourteen years ago)

Still on zero here. Fairly certain that 4 will make it and 20 won't. Only one I'm not sure of is Martyn. Not someone that follows the bobbins threads, so have no idea if people were into that or not.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 16:03 (fourteen years ago)

let's argue about true metal vocals again until the countdown starts up.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 16:12 (fourteen years ago)

I voted for the Martyn album but I'm not sure I can see it placing.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 16:16 (fourteen years ago)

shitehawks

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 16:19 (fourteen years ago)

I voted for Martyn somewhere around no.20 maybe

didn't notice it getting much traction round these parts but if anyone was talking about Hatchback I missed that too so it might just be me

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 16:29 (fourteen years ago)

I voted for:

Toro y Moi
Real Estate
Radiohead

jaymc, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

I had assumed that Real Estate were landfill indie (and some may certainly argue that they are), but my brother (who doesn't normally go in for landfill-type stuff) tipped me off to them, and I was pleasantly surprised. I feel like they hit some of the same wistful/autumnal tones as the Sea and Cake (I hear this most in the guitar part in "It's Real") and even Dungen.

jaymc, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 16:37 (fourteen years ago)

Grouper, Demdike, Andy Stott
hoping some of the more upbeat music I liked makes it

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 16:38 (fourteen years ago)

I'd like to hear or make a mix full of Andy Stott/Demdike type music - I guess Two Lone Swordsmen went some way in being the progenitors of this kind of murky haunted dub-tech with tracks like "Sticky", and it's a sound I've always enjoyed in certain circumstances.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

I am now listening to the John Talabot album in an effort to better keep up with dance stuff in 2012.

jaymc, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

I much preferred "Lamento" off of that EP he did with Glasser than the original. Also, just quickly - is the Invisible Conga track supposed to sound like it's been slowed down to 90BPM?

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

I loved Moon Duo!!

La Lechera, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 16:45 (fourteen years ago)

i discovered Hatchback from max's gawker end-of-year recap post! would have def been on my ballot if i'd heard it earlier

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 16:47 (fourteen years ago)

76. Robag Wruhme — Thora Vukk (262 points, 8 votes)
- what are the kids shouting on this? great record, very personal sound and mood, not fashionable. dude has got serious skills like luomo or isolee.

69. Low — C'Mon (273 points, 10 votes)
- played the shit out of this over xmas, will def bring it out next christmas too.

41. Andy Stott — Passed Me By/We Stay Together (363 points, 13 votes)
- love andy :D so glad to see him making lists like this

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 16:49 (fourteen years ago)

"Fallout" off of the Moon Duo album was a regular jam throughout 2011 for me. The riff is almost exactly the same as this little bridge in Paul McCartney's "Admiral Halsey / Uncle Albert" - don't know why I make the connection.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 16:49 (fourteen years ago)

The only two Low songs I've ever really loved are Lazerbeam and Just Like Christmas. I can't really bear the guy's voice for some reason, but I really like the girl's.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 16:52 (fourteen years ago)

There's not much to say about the Hatchback record (or the Martyn record for that matter), they're just really good.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

I didn't like the Low album much. Mind you I've only listened once, but that was with my wife who is a big Low fan and she didn't like it either.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 16:56 (fourteen years ago)

I mean it's not bad, it's just a bit mediocre.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 16:56 (fourteen years ago)

I preferred Wooden Shjips to Moon Duo in '11. Loved Escape, though...

Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:02 (fourteen years ago)

i wouldn't say mediocre, the songs are very, um, simple? it's not a problem for me cuz i'm so into the way the record sounds and its mood and something super simple with a cool vibe and great sound seemed to be exactly what i was after.

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:07 (fourteen years ago)

Hatchback's record is just beautiful, "Orinoco Waltz" in particular--it sounds amazing on my turntable.

I do like the Andy Stott records, but I fin dit interesting that he's made an entire career arc out of basically reworking this track:

http://youtu.be/5XdnmWb8IGU

Clarke B., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

the real estate album, along with girls, is my favourite indie rock album of the year and some of my favourite indie rock in years. i really like how both are so clean, straightforward, have wonderful lead guitar parts and perfect production. i appreciate that the vocals aren't erratic or spazzy and that while it's not without depth it feels more like its higher purpose is pleasure in pure sound

flopson, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:18 (fourteen years ago)

xp
felt like a few things I was into last year were pretty Aphex-y. BNJMN was more SAWI than II, but I liked that too

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:19 (fourteen years ago)

I agree with you, Rob! BMJMN had strong, strong "classic IDM" vibes. Parts of the Kuedo record (which I love) remind me of old-school Autechre. I've been digging on a lot of Kassem Mosse's stuff, too. That classic IDM thing is in the air a little bit... Although I like the way the current crop of people taking from that sound seem to be skimming off the best parts and leaving some of the more irritating parts behind.

Clarke B., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:22 (fourteen years ago)

jesus clarke you could have done a lot better than that. C-

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:22 (fourteen years ago)

nobody nominated the perc record? a travesty!

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:24 (fourteen years ago)

alright guys

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:24 (fourteen years ago)

is lex around?

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:25 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/hKe4w.jpg

40. Dawn Richard — The Prelude to a Tell Tale Heart (372 points, 11 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 902

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:25 (fourteen years ago)

If you post it, he will come.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:25 (fourteen years ago)

I dunno, that Aphex track just sounds SO similar to some of the tracks on the two Stott EPs. It was an immediate "WHOA, where have I heard this kind of grinding, grit-in-the-rotors lurch of a beat before?" when I got them. I'm sure there are tons of tracks that someone a lot more steeped in the scene could point out as more obvious predecessors, but the similarities are pretty undeniable to me...

Clarke B., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:26 (fourteen years ago)

anything like http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/13/LRRaven.jpg/220px-LRRaven.jpg?

Mordy, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:26 (fourteen years ago)

I agree with you, Rob! BMJMN had strong, strong "classic IDM" vibes. Parts of the Kuedo record (which I love) remind me of old-school Autechre. I've been digging on a lot of Kassem Mosse's stuff, too. That classic IDM thing is in the air a little bit... Although I like the way the current crop of people taking from that sound seem to be skimming off the best parts and leaving some of the more irritating parts behind.

― Clarke B., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:22 (15 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^ This, although I must say I've heard some cruddy stuff too. Hi Samiyam and Patten.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

dawn :D

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

A lot of Prince in Dawn Richard's full album download.

(I was on the verge of posting Save us J0rdan S!)

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:29 (fourteen years ago)

Here's the ones that are on my overall list (three have made my ballot so far)

77 Liturgy - 285
71 Toro Y Moi - 318
69 Wilf Flag - 94
69 Low - 264
65 Psychic Paramount - 145
64 WITTR - 284
63 Austra - 97
62 Drake - 486
61 Lykke Li - 166
60 Ferraro - 91
58 Grouper - 143
57 War On Drugs - 168
56 Danny Brown - 495
55 Mastodon - 9
53 Marling - 81
51 Demdike Stare - 384
50 Hatchback - 349
49 Moon Duo - 53
48 Waits - 10
45 Weeknd - 69
44 Fucked Up - 45
43 Real Estate - 154
42 Radiohead - 18
41 Stott - 268

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:30 (fourteen years ago)

Another one to check out. The sleeve gives me no idea what the contents are like.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:30 (fourteen years ago)

dawn richard!!!!! one of my higher votes. this is the free mixtape r&b that everyone should've been listening to in 2011 instead of the weeknd. proves diddy's assertion that dawn and kalenna were just as important to the dirty money project as he was, and just as talented in their own right.

highlights -

superman - opening banger, I'M ON MY SUPERMAN SHIT / WHIPPIN UP TOWN, BLOWIN UP SHIT - i play this as a pre-going out song all the time
vibrate - so voluptuous and generous, beats like luxury cushions, this is prob the album's most prince/terius-like moment
bulletproof - betas grinding like tectonic plates - if she opened the mixtape by saying she was a superman, she closes it by wearing her emotions like armour

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:33 (fourteen years ago)

yeah "vibrate" is crazy good

"runway" is also dope

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:36 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/IVm4W.jpg

39. Girls — Father, Son, Holy Ghost (374 points, 11 votes)

P4K: 5
P&J: 25

Spotify

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:36 (fourteen years ago)

listened to "bulletproof" so much last year

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:37 (fourteen years ago)

"runway" is also dope

THAT'S MY HAIR NO HORSES UP THERE

<3 <3

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:37 (fourteen years ago)

Girls are the band that got in last years poll and everyone was outraged , right?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:38 (fourteen years ago)

loved that Girls record. My #5. 'Vomit' is great. Liked their first record a little but this is a big improvement imo

pandemic, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:38 (fourteen years ago)

girls record is fantastic, was my #5 i think

ciderpress, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:39 (fourteen years ago)

i barely listened to it at all until the past month or 2 when it hit me pretty big

ciderpress, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:39 (fourteen years ago)

I think people went nuts over a Girls track showing up in the tracks poll rather than the album poll. Also, I still think this band is completely boring.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:41 (fourteen years ago)

there are some really great tracks on that Girls album, as well as some cringeworthy moments. Their little Black Sabbath homage was embarrassing live.

skip, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:42 (fourteen years ago)

I think their name is so lame that I haven't been able to bring myself to listen to them.

Clarke B., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:42 (fourteen years ago)

i just really like the sound, it's like something straight out of 1977

ciderpress, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

i would say 1986 judging by these 2 tracks ive heard on spotify just now

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

Seems like this Girls record got a fraction of the hype of the first one, and yet it did nearly as well on EOY polls.

jaymc, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

some of the personality that came through on their last record seemed leeched out on this one to me

Dan S, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:46 (fourteen years ago)

and i dont get why people would love it so, yet i dont get why people would hate so much either. Its inoffensive and polite. If theres a new Friends this decade i could imagine them doing the theme song.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:46 (fourteen years ago)

This is not for me

save us j0rdan fever!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:47 (fourteen years ago)

i would say 1986 judging by these 2 tracks ive heard on spotify just now

Listening to "Vomit" and it sounds just like Pink Floyd to me.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:47 (fourteen years ago)

The guitars on that Girls album sound fantastic but good grief the vocals are dreadful and the songwriting is earnest to the point of being excruciating. They are the ultimate 'god help us if there's a war' band.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:47 (fourteen years ago)

can never enjoy this band, h8 the singer

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:47 (fourteen years ago)

'hey' is my personal choice cut from dawn, the end of the bridge is one of my favorite music moments of the year: OOOOH HEY BABY OHHHH HEY!

prolego, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:47 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, Girls was my #279. Which believe it or not means I liked it plenty. But god damn if there wasn't a ton of good music last year.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:48 (fourteen years ago)

Hurls more like.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:48 (fourteen years ago)

just gonna ignore that last one and carry on talking about dawn

hey is another favourite - so melodically generous

i love how the mixtape is as equally interested in sounds, emotions and SWAGGER. her debut album proper is easily one of my most anticipated for 2012

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:48 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/YnjJZ.jpg

38. Junior Boys — It’s All True (375 points, 15 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 631

Spotify

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:48 (fourteen years ago)

Also is there a version of that Dawn Richard album that doesn't sound like a third-generation cassette copy yet? The songs were fantastic (Runway especially) but I was finding it way too muffled to really get into. Well, except the one with the a cappella autotune, that was terrible.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:48 (fourteen years ago)

is this that same girls band that did that laura song and he sings like a child? and he grew up in isolation from all music except 2 songs or something?

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:49 (fourteen years ago)

fastnbulbous you ranked 500 albums? 0_o

the emancipation of me-me (tpp), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:49 (fourteen years ago)

cuz i heard a bit of this new one and it sounded like a different band?

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:49 (fourteen years ago)

yeah same one

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:49 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, Girls was my #279

Are you joking? I thought only freaks like Chuck Eddy were capable of ranking to this extreme.

jaymc, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:49 (fourteen years ago)

Vomit and Honey Bunny are great tracks but the rest of that Girls album is quite plodding and boring, especially the track Magic which sounds like some britpop band like Dodgy or someone.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:49 (fourteen years ago)

wikipedia says:

Dawn has announced that her major solo debut project will be a broken up trilogy of albums entitled "GoldenHeart, "BlackHeart", and "RedemptionHeart". "GoldenHeart", the first of the trilogy is expected to be released in 2012.

i really really hope that's true

nb kalenna, the other dirty money girl, has also kicked off her solo career, and this first track has got be HYPED for it - a few months earlier and maybe i'd have had time to rep it enough for it to place in the trax poll http://soundcloud.com/k-diddybop/kalenna-gotowork

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

Also 'A Prelude To A Tell Tale Heart' is a terrible fucking title.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

I'll agree w/the consensus that the last two Jr. Boys albums are no patch on the first two, but there are still plenty of nice moments on them.

jaymc, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

i still like what junior boys are doing, though this doesn't really touch their first 2 records

ciderpress, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

will never get the love for junior boys

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

ha in between the junior boys single placing in trax and today, i managed to forget again that they released an album last year. siiiiigh they're just not exciting any more ;_;

Also 'A Prelude To A Tell Tale Heart' is a terrible fucking title.

the album was originally gonna be called a tell tale heart, hence "a prelude to..." for the mixtape

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

will have to dl that Dawn Richard. Nikkiya was "the free mixtape r&b" i listened to in 2011 ;)

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:52 (fourteen years ago)

A Tell Tale Heart is also a pretty terrible title.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:52 (fourteen years ago)

Nikkiya was "the free mixtape r&b" i listened to in 2011 ;)

still got my fingers crossed that this will place but not as hopeful any more :(

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:53 (fourteen years ago)

I'm getting déjà vu. Junior Boys again? They bore me to tears, sorry.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

you ranked 500 albums?
Um, have you've visited his website?

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

ok vomit is quite good actually. But none of the other tracks are as good as it

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:56 (fourteen years ago)

Love this Junior Boys album, love them all for different reasons. Forgot to vote for it.

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

xp
at least it wasn't called "Four Beasts in One - The Homo-Cameleopard"

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

i wonder if the feeling i get when people get all giddy about real estate and girls is the same feeling rap dorks get when people like drake or lex gets about the weeknd. i guess not because i just find them generic and boring, not deplorable, but it seems to be the same kinda thing where most of the people who like them don't really listen to a lot of indie rock/guitar music. it's like indie rock for rap dorks.

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

plz get fastnbulbous spam out of here plz, we have enough of that around ilm

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:58 (fourteen years ago)

it's like indie rock for rap dorks.

― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, February 1, 2012 12:57 PM (21 seconds ago) Bookmark

speaking as a rap dork that loved both the real estate and girls album, i can just about guarantee you that maybe 1% of rap dorks are checking for real estate and/or girls albums

people who only listen to indie rock are really into those two bands

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

actually, there are some good mixtape titles in the Poe bibliography. "Thou Art the Man" is making me lol

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/eIbbo.jpg

37. Death Grips — Ex-Military (382 points, 13 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 165

Spotify

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

it took me like all year to realize i liked it's all true

it's not nearly as immediately catchy/poppy as last exit, which id still rank as my fav of theirs

ppl seem to really love so this is goodbye but it's v meh to me

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, 532 albums. It's what I do. Think of it as an ongoing playlist. When I started listening to a lot of music, it's just a handy way to keep track of stuff and revisit my favorites more often, or reconsider others rather than forget about them. They started as lists on whatever word processing program I used for Apple IIs in 1983 on the 5" floppies, and went to web in '95.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:01 (fourteen years ago)

it's like indie rock for rap dorks.

curious what the real indie insiders are stanning over?

Mordy, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:01 (fourteen years ago)

I like Real Estate (And Woods) but not anything i've heard by Girls.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:01 (fourteen years ago)

i'm phrasing my point re: real estate and girls poorly. maybe i just mean they seem like "entry level" indie rock or something. ignore all the stuff about rap dorks. i think i actually like real estate but don't get why someone would be really excited about them.

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:02 (fourteen years ago)

The idea of listening to Death Grips far exceeds the actual act of listening to Death Grips. Like Fucked Up, I find that one track a day is enough to fulfil my Death Grips RDA. Still, they've done a fab job of achieving what dälek never could.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:04 (fourteen years ago)

N/a this was my feeling re: liturgy and metal.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:06 (fourteen years ago)

I love listening to the Death Grips mix all the way through! really well sequenced.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:06 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah Death Grips is cool. "West End Boys"

pandemic, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:07 (fourteen years ago)

I'm with dl here - it's clearly a great album but I haven't listened to it much since the initial buzz.

two lights crew (seandalai), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:07 (fourteen years ago)

DEATH GRIPS yeah, my third vote to have placed, after demdike and moon duo. super fun for walking around real fast with headphones on while making karate chop motions with your hands. (it's okay because no one is looking.)

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:08 (fourteen years ago)

What's a good showcase track for dg? I love the album but I don't feel like I've really explored it properly. Always wanna play it to people but never know which track is best represented.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:08 (fourteen years ago)

Death Grips would've been my #1 if I had voted.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:09 (fourteen years ago)

i don't like girls, but "vomit" is p great as it turns out. except for the part at the end with the backing vocals, that sucks. if they'd just repeated the dino jr. guitar solo, i'd have been way happier. it doesn't matter though because i don't like girls.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:09 (fourteen years ago)

What's a good showcase track for dg?

guillotine and takyon are both ace

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:10 (fourteen years ago)

I think if they don't like the first 2 tracks they're not going like the rest of it.

pandemic, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:10 (fourteen years ago)

curious what the real indie insiders are stanning over?

Depends what you mean. Indie rock, indie pop, DIY? Certainly not bloody Girls, anyway. Though a fair amount of trü indie people like Real Estate, I guess (not me).

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:13 (fourteen years ago)

I just listened to some Girls songs. I wish they had more tension, more meat; it feels like they lack a center, like there's no "there" there. I mean, that song "Honey Bunny"? I almost literally cannot process how someone thinks it's aesthetically okay to just put a little surf-rock lick in there like that. It feels so wrong on some deep level that I cannot articulate. And a song "Die" with, you guessed it, "angry guitars"! I think these guys just think of the whole idea of Music way differently than I do, like it's some neat little macaroni sculpture you'd make in third grade and bring home to your folks.

Clarke B., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:14 (fourteen years ago)

curious what the real indie insiders are stanning over?

Anything on Woodsist or not not fun

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:15 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not particularly "excited" by Real Estate, but I found myself returning to the album often enough that I ended up with a great affection for it.

jaymc, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:15 (fourteen years ago)

all this debate about girls and like 3 people talking about dawn richard ;_;

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:16 (fourteen years ago)

i prefer the real estate album that was on Woodsist to this years

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:16 (fourteen years ago)

death grips remind me of like dälek or something

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:17 (fourteen years ago)

I'm really enjoying this Andy Stott. Reminds me of Actress a bit?

polyphonic, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:17 (fourteen years ago)

lolol @ the idea of real estate being "for rap dorks"...p much all the rap dorks i know stan for Real Estate, though some of the older heads are all like "damn this this shit is weak i ride for O.G. shit like Let's Active and Aztec Camera"

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:18 (fourteen years ago)

Death Grips is the closest I've heard to the late, lamented (by me) New Kingdom.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:19 (fourteen years ago)

hadn't heard the dawn richards mixtape but just listened to 'vibrate' which was gr8

the emancipation of me-me (tpp), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:19 (fourteen years ago)

TAKYONNNNNNNN

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:19 (fourteen years ago)

'ex-military' was like my 6th or something?

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:19 (fourteen years ago)

a few friends who don't listen to rap tried to put me onto death grips and i ignored them accordingly. will give it a listen now ILM has spoken though.

the emancipation of me-me (tpp), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:20 (fourteen years ago)

i like "takyon" much much better than "guillotine" which i couldn't get through

a bit tooooo much like being trapped in a dank basement venue for me to maybe incorporate into my everyday listening but admirable i guess. good beats, unsure about being shouted at

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:21 (fourteen years ago)

YUH

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:21 (fourteen years ago)

he has a beard like rick ross who also shouts at me in an unenjoyable way

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:22 (fourteen years ago)

and yet i can't get enough of WAKA shouting at me

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:22 (fourteen years ago)

rick ross don't shout! baby, he make magic!

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:23 (fourteen years ago)

i voted for both death grips and dawn richard so p happy to see those place. the dawn richard mixtape has an even dumber name cuz i think its supposed to have a hashtag? idk. i dont know how much appeal this will have to ilm posters but its v v modern sounding to me w/o being 'futuristic' stuff like 'broken record' works really well in a number of contexts for e.g. or the way 'runway' is like part yuppie club fodder and part bratrap eyeroll

the death grips tape is just really badass

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:24 (fourteen years ago)

it was not so long ago that you were complaining about "fatass rick ross" ruining mariah m@tt!

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:24 (fourteen years ago)

I thought it was Nick Cannon who ruined Mariah

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:25 (fourteen years ago)

lamp you should hear the kalenna song

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:25 (fourteen years ago)

that mariah remix my the dream is pretty nice, except having big fatass rick ross on a track sort of diminishes it's "wonderful space ballad drifting thru space"-ness IMO.

― Yo, I just copped dat brand new Manity Kane cd. (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, February 13, 2009 9:19 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no one has ruined mariah yet though :)

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:26 (fourteen years ago)

i bought the real estate record for my bf cuz its the exact kind of music he really likes and its really nice, idk, the guitars do sound really good and its appropriately sweet w/o being cloying. 'it's real' is a total jam

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:26 (fourteen years ago)

that mariah remix my the dream is pretty nice, except having big fatass rick ross on a track sort of diminishes it's "wonderful space ballad drifting thru space"-ness IMO.

― Yo, I just copped dat brand new Manity Kane cd. (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, February 13, 2009 9:19 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no one has ruined mariah yet though :)

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, February 1, 2012 12:26 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha i know! i don't like love him or anything i just think it's funny how much you hate him, plus i do think he's gotten better...

though that said, i pretty much HATE guest rap verses in R&B I think that's the #1 that sucks about R&B

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:28 (fourteen years ago)

I think Death Grips is more of a live act than an album act, sort of like Lightning Bolt. I posted this in the DG thread already:

http://youtu.be/YG71wkBZNbA

polyphonic, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:28 (fourteen years ago)

last one before i run to work.. will pick up in like 45 mins or so

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:29 (fourteen years ago)

p much all the rap dorks i know stan for Real Estate, though some of the older heads are all like "damn this this shit is weak i ride for O.G. shit like Let's Active and Aztec Camera"

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, February 1, 2012 6:18 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just wanna, how you say, 'flag' this post

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:29 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/ooCqR.jpg

36. Holy Ghost! — Holy Ghost! (384 points, 13 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 148

Spotify

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:29 (fourteen years ago)

do it DJ Mencap, just do it

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:29 (fourteen years ago)

"Broken Record" is great, though the audio quality is weirdly lo-fi as mentioned upthread

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:30 (fourteen years ago)

all this debate about girls and like 3 people talking about dawn richard ;_;

lol wah. in order to demonstrate to myself that i don't like girls, i just listened to "honey bunny". holy fuck that sucks. nadir of the happy happy beach party funtime shit indie garage ppl went nuts for when they got tired of "weird punk" c. 2008. modern lovers via lemonheads via something even more horrid.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:30 (fourteen years ago)

dudes i already redacted the "rap dorks" thing. i shouldn't talk about music. i won't post anything else today.

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:32 (fourteen years ago)

it's cool mang sorry

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

trying to imagine an ILM where everyone who made slightly regrettable generalizations about music fandoms stopped posting

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

dudes i already redacted the "rap dorks" thing. i shouldn't talk about music. i won't post anything else today.

it's okay though cuz real estate are really fucking boring (swidt)

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:34 (fourteen years ago)

music sucks

ciderpress, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:35 (fourteen years ago)

real estate is pretty swell but i don't get excited over them. i can see why some folks would, though.

omar little, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:37 (fourteen years ago)

Save us J0rdan S.

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:40 (fourteen years ago)

Holy Ghost! is decent but I dunno, I don't think the quality holds up over the length of a full album.

two lights crew (seandalai), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

omg! about that mariah/Rick Ross post! Didn't M@tt post another thing right after that about being high on mushrooms & not being to enjoy it bcz some linebacker was relaying his sexual conquests right next to your ear? Or something like that? Those posts were awesome!

Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

n/a, 'member when Dalek rocked our cawlidge? I think I could get into this Death Grips stuff, although I don't necessarily hear the Dalek connection that much. Dalek was more immersive, wash-y, sloppier and thicker; Death Grips operates on a final-scene-of-Clockwork-Orange level of alertness, like a transmission from a scary land where there's no drugs and kids kill woodland creatures for fun instead.

Clarke B., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:43 (fourteen years ago)

Re Real Estate: I like pretty much everything that's come out of the Mondanile/Woodsist axis but Days is just so boring, like they've turned the chillometer up to 11 and given up on motion entirely.

two lights crew (seandalai), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:44 (fourteen years ago)

Back in the good old days you could just rely on your A&R man to push you around in a grocery cart.

Clarke B., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:46 (fourteen years ago)

n/a, 'member when Dalek rocked our cawlidge?

i think the id "opened"!

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:46 (fourteen years ago)

Love that Holy Ghost album although the second half is definitely stronger. I don't know how you can be familiar with their recent history and remain unmoved by Jam For Jerry.

They're like the perfect bridge between the DFA scuzzy New York crew and the Permanent Vacation dancing on beaches guys.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

I loved Dälek. Maybe I should listen to that Death Grips record, then.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:47 (fourteen years ago)

i can see the death grips/dalek thing on a superficial level but agree with clarke that they're pretty different, death grips is way more aggro and in your face than dalek ever was

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

Hmm, I couldn't get into Dalek back when "From Filthy Tongue of Gods" came out, but this is hitting the spot for me now.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

xxxpost

it kinda sucks overall, like you can't just do a nice trippy remix it's always gotta have a rapper on it.

it's like you just ate mushrooms and wanted to watch planet earth on DVD but instead you have to sit there and listen to an offensive lineman from the jaguars tell you how he got a blowjob from some chick in a convenience store bathroom

― Yo, I just copped dat brand new Manity Kane cd. (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, February 13, 2009 3:24 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

:)

i don't know wtf my login name was about back then :\

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:49 (fourteen years ago)

This is the Death Grips track that immediately grabbed me:

http://youtu.be/DaE8cMt_8iU

And n/a, I think the Id did open! All the girls were pining for Chang, I remember that.

Clarke B., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

Because he's DREAMY.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

They're like the perfect bridge between the DFA scuzzy New York crew and the Permanent Vacation dancing on beaches guys.

On this description they should be 100% pure seandalai-bait and I've been following them since "Hold On"...I think the main reason I'm a bit down on the album is that it doesn't quite live up to my expectations. Before today I hadn't felt like revisiting it in months.

two lights crew (seandalai), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:54 (fourteen years ago)

Holy Ghost has a great album in them but it's not this one. they remind me more of Chromeo than of DFA - smarmy and cloying, except Chromeo is very tongue in cheek about it. These guys are (or at least the vocal delivery is) way too straightforward. This is FUN! music that doesn't sound like they had fun making.

skip, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:54 (fourteen years ago)

it's maybe weird that i ride so hard for death grips when i was bitching just yesterday about the "angryman" vocals killing fcukedup for me, but i dunny, the mr. death grips approach strikes me as funny, fresh and appealingly weird. pink eyes not so much.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:55 (fourteen years ago)

Hmm, I couldn't get into Dalek back when "From Filthy Tongue of Gods" came out, but this is hitting the spot for me now.

― polyphonic, Wednesday, February 1, 2012 10:48 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and filthy tongues is so great, so forgotten, still love you forever

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:57 (fourteen years ago)

Haha thx m@tt for the vintage LOLs...

Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 18:58 (fourteen years ago)

Good to see Dawn Richard, I'm another lover of 'Hey'.

Never got with Death Grips, too 'aggro' is about right.

Really hate every Girls song I've heard, voice, production, everything. Yeuckh.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

hey u guys has anyone been doing an albums spotify list? ty.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

YUH

http://open.spotify.com/user/miketd/playlist/1eFRt0eXdigDDJ1aWMqPuP

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:16 (fourteen years ago)

― Yo, I just copped dat brand new Manity Kane cd. (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, February 13, 2009 3:24 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

:)

i don't know wtf my login name was about back then :\

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, February 1, 2012 6:49 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

funny thing is that username comes back round into relevance here b/c of course dawn richard first rose to prominence as a member of danity kane, and indeed she was the one who provided their bizarrely outré name (iirc they were named after a fictional animé character of dawn's own invention)

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

xp thanknig u

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

the holy ghost album is pretty cool, "some children" and "jam for jerry" are total classics

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

this is not a criticism necc but holy crap i am listening to takyon by death grips and now i cant get the fact that it sounds like an aggro hip hop group fronted by Chuck Mosely out of my goddamn head

a warlike pro-SB mod (jjjusten), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

sorry about this being so disjointed today, let's get rolling again

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:22 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/kjAH5.jpg

35. Julia Holter — Tragedy (386 points, 14 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 1734

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:22 (fourteen years ago)

i like death grips, but the one time i tried to play it for a friend it felt oddly embarassing

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

i got the julia holter album after seeing it on several EOY lists and falling in love w/the idea of it - i was very disappointed that i couldn't get into it, it seemed very slight/too abstract - possibly i didn't give it enough of a chance but nothing hooked me in :(

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

Never got with Death Grips, too 'aggro' is about right.

It's almost this for me as well, verging on caricature the same way, say, early Swans does: yeah, yeah, I'm a slave, we're all meat, he's a bad boss, she despises her fuckhole, got it. For whatever reason, it's harder for me to connect with that sort of primal rage than it used to be--or maybe it's more that I've really distanced myself from such forceful and un-nuanced expressions of it.

Clarke B., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:24 (fourteen years ago)

Yaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy wow SO surprised at it placing so high! <3

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:26 (fourteen years ago)

i got the julia holter album after seeing it on several EOY lists and falling in love w/the idea of it - i was very disappointed that i couldn't get into it, it seemed very slight/too abstract - possibly i didn't give it enough of a chance but nothing hooked me in :(

you might like her live recordings better, theyre a little more raw and gestural, the performance can give s.thing to hold on to

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:27 (fourteen years ago)

I love this album, though it's not very immediate in its appeal. The most charming track is Goddess Eyes, a human-vocoder duet with a whiff of "O Superman".

two lights crew (seandalai), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:27 (fourteen years ago)

Listening to "Goddess Eyes" now. I like this a bunch.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:28 (fourteen years ago)

yaaaay Julia Holter -- something else I voted for. It's dreamy and kinda remote, but I can definitely hear a real human in there. I probably will forget about it/use it for alarm clock music in a couple of years (hello Colleen!) but it sounded nice in 2011.

La Lechera, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:28 (fourteen years ago)

I probably will forget about it/use it for alarm clock music in a couple of years (hello Colleen!)

heh i use colleen for hangover music these days

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:29 (fourteen years ago)

cool, voted for julia holter. it's great!

omar little, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:30 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/DacWw.jpg

34. Cut Copy — Zonoscope (392 points, 12 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: 28
P&J: 109

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J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:30 (fourteen years ago)

I love that Holter record, so gutted I couldn't get hold of it on vinyl. Lots of people seem to lump it in with a bunch of the washed-out kind of electronica stuff but it's so deftly written, with nods to operatic narrative and early music, and gaaaah it's bloody great.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:30 (fourteen years ago)

ok i am officially intrigued by the julia holter stuff

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:31 (fourteen years ago)

Remind me who Cut Copy are again? I think I always confused them with Crystal Castles for some reason.

two lights crew (seandalai), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:32 (fourteen years ago)

It's almost this for me as well, verging on caricature the same way, say, early Swans does: yeah, yeah, I'm a slave, we're all meat, he's a bad boss, she despises her fuckhole, got it. For whatever reason, it's harder for me to connect with that sort of primal rage than it used to be--or maybe it's more that I've really distanced myself from such forceful and un-nuanced expressions of it.

― Clarke B., Wednesday, February 1, 2012 11:24 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i may be doing it wrong, but i don't take death grips anywhere near as "seriously" as swans/gira always seem to demand. it's fun and funny cartoon apocalypse music for jumping around to.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:32 (fourteen years ago)

Still never figured out whether i liked that Julia Holter record as a whole or not, but it's certainly very interesting.

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:33 (fourteen years ago)

Remind me who Cut Copy are again? I think I always confused them with Crystal Castles for some reason.

lol i confuse them with futureheads

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:33 (fourteen years ago)

with nods to operatic narrative and early music, and gaaaah it's bloody great

i can see this ('tragedy finale') but idk culturally or w/e shes p squarely part of 'the washed-out kind of electronica stuff'

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:33 (fourteen years ago)

Zonoscope grew on me a lot through the year. It's obviously not in the same league as In Ghost Colours but it's still a really great album.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:33 (fourteen years ago)

"Goddess Eyes" is brilliant, like a reincarnated "O Superman." Rest of the album doesn't quite measure up.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:34 (fourteen years ago)

aldo, a whole lot of the DG record is actually demented party music, not hateful in any way unlike the examples cited (except towards cops, on "Klink")

Simon H., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:34 (fourteen years ago)

[i]i may be doing it wrong, but i don't take death grips anywhere near as "seriously" as swans/gira always seem to demand. it's fun and funny cartoon apocalypse music for jumping around to.<.i>

I dunno, it's a similar vibe for me... Then again, I think some of that early Swans stuff is hilarious!

Clarke B., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:35 (fourteen years ago)

Remind me who Cut Copy are again? I think I always confused them with Crystal Castles for some reason.

A bit like Empire Of The Sun without the delusions of grandeur. Guitary / synthy Australian band. Quite nice.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:36 (fourteen years ago)

Huh, I never even hear about stuff like J. Holter.

jaymc, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:36 (fourteen years ago)

that Julia Holter lp is definitely best heard as a whole piece. I love the way the more ambient/musique concrete parts set off the moments when it comes into greater focus

apparently the second pressing of the lp has sold out

Dan S, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:36 (fourteen years ago)

there are two good songs on the cut copy album -- the first two iirc -- and then it falls off a cliff more or less

sucks cuz 'in ghost colours' is one of the best albums

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:36 (fourteen years ago)

Agree on Cut Copy, the album doesn't grab me like their previous ones, but "Need You Now" is the jam. My #364.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:37 (fourteen years ago)

all y'all playing the art of pretend forgetfulness game w/ cut copy need to gtfo

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:37 (fourteen years ago)

julia holter!!! didn't think that was gonna place at all. she was a late entry into my top ten list but i really adore it - the way she uses silence in between the more song-oriented parts is really effective i think

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:38 (fourteen years ago)

cut copy are like the nadia petrova of music, kind of stolid and consistent but the idea of them inspiring passionate fandom is the most perplexing thing

then again i did once watch a petrova match once where some demented fan was yelling GO NADIA after every point she won so it can happen i guess

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:39 (fourteen years ago)

Listening to "Goddess Eyes" now. I like this a bunch.

me too! o wow, thank you for mentioning this seandalai. so great. easily the best song i've yet encountered as a result of this poll. hope the rest of the album is comparable.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:40 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/XMRbx.jpg

33. John Maus — We Muse Become The Pitiless Censors of Ourselves (398 points, 14 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 130

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J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

I completely forgot about Dawn Richard and Julia Holter. Definite runner-ups for my top 10.

Moka, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

TOO LOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

I love this ridiculous record.

Clarke B., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

I love that Holter record, so gutted I couldn't get hold of it on vinyl.

― emil.y, Wednesday, February 1, 2012 11:30 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yr not kidding: "2 For Sale from $118.15" D:

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:42 (fourteen years ago)

John Maus is a hero

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:43 (fourteen years ago)

absolutely hate that john maus record and forever condemn anyone who endorses it. and love is real remains a favorite, so it's not like idgi. just a horrible misstep.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:43 (fourteen years ago)

that john maus title is a bit jenny holzer

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

cut copy are like the nadia petrova of music, kind of stolid and consistent but the idea of them inspiring passionate fandom is the most perplexing thing

lol @ consistent

uberweiss, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

Didn't vote for this but thought it a lock for the top 10. Now I'm really intrigued as to what's coming up.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

That will be me then, who you condemn forever... "Horrible misstep" gtfo

xxxp

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

Oh yay, excellent John Maus record, whatever to the haters!

Re. Cut Copy: I preferred Zonoscope to In Ghost Colours, but it's not as good as Bright Like Neon Love. Fun live too! Had completely forgotten this album came out this year.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

joh maus is terrible obv

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:45 (fourteen years ago)

hello this is john maus, please listen to my new album on spotify

markers, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:45 (fourteen years ago)

john maus sucks
cut copy sucks
everything sucks

uberweiss, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:46 (fourteen years ago)

Cool, voted for this. Not heard any of his earlier stuff yet though.

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:46 (fourteen years ago)

I can understand people not liking Maus, but I really don't understand all the "he's the worst" stuff.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:46 (fourteen years ago)

hope the rest of the album is comparable.

fwiw the rest of the album doesn't really sound like this but don't let that put you off - the scope of it is kind of nuts, there's some found-sound/collage pieces, long drifting ambient passages, slow-churning mechanical stuff, free jazz-y kind of stuff, etc

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:47 (fourteen years ago)

<3 MAUS. Though, uh, there's a spelling mistake in that album title up there.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:47 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/9oi4K.jpg

32. Panda Bear — Tomboy (402 points, 13 votes)

P4K: 32
P&J: 69

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J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:47 (fourteen years ago)

john maus sucks
cut copy sucks
everything sucks
video games

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:47 (fourteen years ago)

xxp We, Muse, become the etc etc

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

i don't really get the maus hate either, i listened to that track that placed and it wasn't the kind of thing i nec want to hear more of but it wasn't offensive in any way

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

It's so weird. I rather like that Panda Bear album, but it feels like it came out years ago

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

that john maus title is a bit jenny holzer

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend)

it's from Badiou (so i gather)

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

panda bear really does fucking suck though

that "would you buy music by a convicted murderer" thread - if they were convicted of murdering panda bear i would be morally obliged to buy theior products

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:49 (fourteen years ago)

the maus hate is tied up in whatever nonsense he gave in that pfork interview right?

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:49 (fourteen years ago)

Maus was my #1, by the way. I'm not sure if it's the best album of the year, but it's the album I'll go the most bonkers nuts about defending. Lex, 'Hey Moon' is not the most representative track, though it is a highlight of the album. I doubt you'll dig it, to be honest, but I think it is wonderful.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:49 (fourteen years ago)

i like 'person pitch' well enough and dude has some utter classics b/w his solo work & animal collective, but i didn't really like 'tomboy' at all

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:49 (fourteen years ago)

Maus rubs people up the wrong way with all the critical/ pomo theory and performance art stuff presumably? I can happily ignore all that.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:49 (fourteen years ago)

or what Jordan said

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:50 (fourteen years ago)

I loved Person Pitch and liked the Panda Bear album before that, but didn't even listen to this one as his performance at Primavera was so horribly disappointing I couldn't really be arsed.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:50 (fourteen years ago)

love that john maus LP, highly recommend checking out the 'streetlight' fan vid cut to the climactic scene from 'ms. 45.'

omar little, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:52 (fourteen years ago)

Julia Holter was my #1, John Maus my #2. Holter I keep liking more and more. I can appreciate Maus is a pretty instant like/hate. I kind of dismissed '..Censors..' as too much like the later tracks on the last Ariel Pink at first, then it kind of grew its own identity more and more and I can barely hear that in it now.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:52 (fourteen years ago)

Voted for Tomboy. Clearly it's a less inviting listen than Person Pitch and it doesn't cover a whole lot of musical territory, but it hits a groove I really enjoy and stays there.

two lights crew (seandalai), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:52 (fourteen years ago)

yr not kidding: "2 For Sale from $118.15" D:

haha i should sell my copy i could use the money

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:52 (fourteen years ago)

i didn't listen to it a ton but something about that panda bear record feels pretty sterile. i went back to 'afterburner' a few times though.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

I'll buy it! Not for that much, though.

xpost

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

Maus rubs people up the wrong way with all the critical/ pomo theory and performance art stuff presumably?

weird thing is i hate this in critics/writers but kinda love it in artists. i'm intrigued. sadly i am more focused on rebuilding my entire music collection from scratch than checking out new stuff this week :(

it makes me shudder to see panda bear's name in the same sentence as the phrase "utter classics". bad bad bad no-good worthless artist

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:54 (fourteen years ago)

John Maus is an outstanding songwriter... The expansiveness and grandeur of something like "Cop Killer" is just, WHOA--complete, evocative, stately, creepy, but subtle (I'm talking mood here, not lyrics obviously). Listen to "Cop Killer" and then listen to something by Girls or whoever; it's like, on every leve--melodically, mood-wise, texturally, Maus shows it up, makes it sound like a finger painting by a remedial student.

Clarke B., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:55 (fourteen years ago)

the best part of seeing panda bear on the tomboy tour was watching sonic boom rip a joint on stage throughout the set

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:55 (fourteen years ago)

xp to Lex yeah I'd rather musicians spout off theoretical justification for their half-baked ideas than having... nothing.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:56 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/D0I33.jpg

31. Nguzunguzu — The Perfect Lullaby (404 points, 13 votes, 2 first place votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 646

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:56 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i like the john maus record. didn't hear anything about panda bear all year, surprised to see it place well

ciderpress, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:57 (fourteen years ago)

have not heard this one at all, what is it?

ciderpress, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:57 (fourteen years ago)

OMG i had no idea this would place or was eligible!!!!!! amazing amazing stuff

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:58 (fourteen years ago)

not a hater in general, love john maus, just do not care for we must become.... nothing on it appeals to me half as much as "rights for gays", "the silent chorus", "my whole world's coming apart", etc.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:58 (fourteen years ago)

YESSSS

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:59 (fourteen years ago)

been listening to the Nguzunguzu mixtape nonstop, it's fantastic
also available as a free download iirc

Dan S, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:00 (fourteen years ago)

:D :D :D

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:00 (fourteen years ago)

should be available here still: http://dismagazine.com/disco/mixes/14817/nguzunguzu-the-perfect-lullaby/

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:01 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, fantastic mix obv

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:01 (fourteen years ago)

if i'd thought it was eligible i'd have voted for it top 5.

it's a mix by an LA duo, asma and daniel, that weaves r&b vocals through a bunch of awesome beats from zouk to house - very tactile and emotional, the beats and the vocals really respond to each other. you can get it here http://dismagazine.com/disco/mixes/14817/nguzunguzu-the-perfect-lullaby/

nguzunguzu were also responsible for my favourite club moment of 2011 - they played night slugs and it was a night of THE BEST VIBES EVER. nicki minaj on top of wiley's "ice rink", their own remix of ciara's "deuces", diddy dirty money's "sade" segued into a bounce remix of sade's "cherish the day"

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:01 (fourteen years ago)

that moment when "wave ya hands" comes in was maybe my favorite "moment" in any piece of music i heard this year

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:01 (fourteen years ago)

^^^

top 10 for me. sooo good.

prolego, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:03 (fourteen years ago)

YES YES YES.

Voted for this but forgot it might be coming up. After a relatively good but not exciting run, this is getting me pumped.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

that moment when "wave ya hands" comes in was maybe my favorite "moment" in any piece of music i heard this year

yes!

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

OMG i had no idea this would place or was eligible!!!!!! amazing amazing stuff

thought it was obvious that this would place. this being ILX and all. expected it to place higher, tbf. didn't vote for it, but like it a lot (probably should have, in retrospect).

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:05 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/KUlSC.jpg

30. Ford & Lopatin — Channel Pressure (410 points, 14 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 239

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J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:05 (fourteen years ago)

i meant cuz it's not a "proper" "album" really, not that that really makes a difference thinking about it

xp

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:06 (fourteen years ago)

I keep seeing the name Nguzunguzu on ILM but have neglected to check it out. This looks interesting at least.

John Gaw Meme (_Rudipherous_), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:06 (fourteen years ago)

The Games thing was so much more enduring than 'Channel Pressure'. Enjoyed the instrumental version more than the vocal one.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:07 (fourteen years ago)

oh awesome, Channel Pressure was in my top 5. wasn't sure if ilx was on it this hard

ciderpress, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:07 (fourteen years ago)

that moment when "wave ya hands" comes in was maybe my favorite "moment" in any piece of music i heard this year

completely

'channel pressure' is ok but there were so many other, better records that did the same thing out this year

this is a v zeitgeist-y list so far today tho p cool

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:08 (fourteen years ago)

I made it about 4 minutes into Nguzunguzu before throwing in the towel. Not my thing at all.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:08 (fourteen years ago)

i checked channel pressure out last year but it didn't quite click w/me. fucking hard drive crash i keep going back into my itunes where they all used to be to relisten and there is nothing left ;_; ;_;

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:09 (fourteen years ago)

agree with Craigo. maybe the EP format just suited this kind of stuff better for me?

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:09 (fourteen years ago)

I keep seeing the name Nguzunguzu on ILM
Maybe you were confusing with Fügügüffü ?

La Lechera, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:10 (fourteen years ago)

Was that one of those nordic folk metal things? I meant to go back and look at them on the metal list.

John Gaw Meme (_Rudipherous_), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

Brilliant production on the Ford & Lopatin. Shame about the songs.

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

Fügügüffü will storm the album charts next year, I'm sure.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

wow it's moving so fast now!

Channel Pressure really hit me. There are some catchy as fuck songs there and the production is very "now". Who knows what it will sound like in a couple years though.

The Panda Bear record is atrocious.

skip, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

the real loveliness of the Nguzunguzu didn't really hit me until after several listens. would put it high on my list now

Dan S, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

really wasnt into the ford and lopatin or games ep :(

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

I keep seeing the name Nguzunguzu on ILM
Maybe you were confusing with Fügügüffü ?

I'll rep for the classic "Zungguzungguguzungguzeng"

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

v nordic and folky

La Lechera, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:13 (fourteen years ago)

OPN should be up next right?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:13 (fourteen years ago)

not quite

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:16 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/KhPC5.jpg

29. Britney Spears — Femme Fatale (424 points, 13 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 53

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J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:16 (fourteen years ago)

the gangsta barbara stanwyck

omar little, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:17 (fourteen years ago)

not particularly good, but should not be charting lower than gaga

uberweiss, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:20 (fourteen years ago)

heh

when this came out i wasn't high on it at all - it sounded great but i thought the songs weren't there. towards the end of the year though i found i was still listening to it a ton, especially on tube journeys (the production was loud enough to overpower the noise of the tube basically), and finding it very fun and memorable. so i think i tossed it near the bottom of my ballot. standouts: "i wanna go", "gasoline", "criminal", "seal it with a kiss", "(drop dead) beautiful", "inside out".

at no point does britney sound like a sentient human being - like even less than usual she's just been turned into a sex-and-partying automaton. this, it turns out, is fairly awesome to listen to. at one point on "drop dead) beautiful" you're kind of shocked out of the mood by a voice that sounds alive and human - what has happened to britney, you think! how has she malfunctioned?! it turns out it's the guest rapper (sabi from the bangz who is pretty awesome in and of herself)

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:20 (fourteen years ago)

not particularly good, but should not be charting lower than gaga

i don't think gaga is going to place at all tbh, none of her tracks did

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:20 (fourteen years ago)

the gangsta barbara stanwyck

has this been used as a mixtape drop?

tumblring dice (crüt), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:21 (fourteen years ago)

Maybe you were confusing with Fügügüffü

I kept confusing it with one of those shangaan electro fellows

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:21 (fourteen years ago)

Back to Nguzunguzu - that 50 second clip from Ciara's Flaws & All into I Run It is just <3

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:22 (fourteen years ago)

I didn't vote for it but there are enough ppl on ILM who love that Gaga album that it'll place I think

tumblring dice (crüt), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:22 (fourteen years ago)

i don't think gaga is going to place at all tbh, none of her tracks did

she will

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:22 (fourteen years ago)

yay nguzunguzu

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:23 (fourteen years ago)

I don't usually vote for mixes and don't really approve of free web mixes being included but that Nguzunguzu mix is FUCKING AMAZING and one of the best things I heard over the first half of last year. Such a fantastic summer mix.

The idea of Cut Copy beating Holy Ghost is just really weird, I wasn't aware anyone even liked Zonoscope that much, especially compared to the last one.

Intrigued by the Julia Holter, I've never even heard of that one.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:24 (fourteen years ago)

Okay, I like "Till The World Ends," it's a great single. But I gotta say, WTF. I heard 526 albums last year better than that.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:26 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/m9ddO.jpg

28. Araabmuzik — Electronic Dream (445 points, 14 votes)

P4K: 40
P&J: 392

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J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:26 (fourteen years ago)

The Perfect Lullaby is such a perfect distillation of an aesthetic I didn't even know I wanted in my life.

The Araabmuzik record is alright when he's doing girly trance, he should embrace his inner house really rather than doggedly pursuing incongruous hip-hop beats.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:28 (fourteen years ago)

'channel pressure' is ok but there were so many other, better records that did the same thing out this year

Gimme some names! I voted for Channel Pressure but also feel like it's not as good as it could be.

jaymc, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:29 (fourteen years ago)

It took me about three months to admit to myself that I actually really liked the Panda Bear album - OH THE SHAME - but I actually really do like it a lot... eh, what can you do...

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:30 (fourteen years ago)

i played the nguzus' dublab mix nearly as much as 'perfect lullaby' - more bangin' if you find PL too 'sedate' or something

couldn't get into that ford/lopatin, tho i loved "strawberry skies" the year before

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:30 (fourteen years ago)

my favourite thing on the araabmuzik album was "golden touch" - interpolating jam & spoon, <3 <3 <3 <3

also appreciated an actual rapper getting on that beat too - broadway ft. fabolous - 2 the money

for all that i thought as an album it was pretty but inessential

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:30 (fourteen years ago)

A few of the many not-great albums that are still better than Britney's - Bon Iver, Atari Teenage Riot, Fountains Of Wayne, Coldplay, Hercules And Love Affair, Vivian Girls, Social Distortion, Deerhoof, Kaiser Chiefs, R.E.M., Paul Simon, The Cars, Lonely Island, Blondie, Gomez, Red Hot Chili Peppers...

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:31 (fourteen years ago)

emergency room on the f&l record is soo catchy

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:32 (fourteen years ago)

idk i got addicted to that araabmuzik album as walking to work music, the sugaryness of it was like eating a couple of pop tarts for breakfast. weird, since i think it's meant to be night music

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:32 (fourteen years ago)

Was wondering if people were aware that the Nguzunguzu was nominated. Yep, technically it shouldn't be eligible but i played it more than anything else last year so i put it at number one

Number None, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:34 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, i didn't know that else i'd have voted it for sure

i did vote 'electronic dream' - kind of a gimmick maybe but it was a gimmick i liked a whole lot

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:36 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/KxHIz.jpg

27. St. Vincent — Strange Mercy (469 points, 14 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: 11
P&J: 12

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J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:39 (fourteen years ago)

Love everything about this album, even though I think Actor might be slightly better.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:43 (fourteen years ago)

very cold album, which is probably the point. I voted for it.

skip, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:47 (fourteen years ago)

The album/mood tracks are better than on Actor, but Strange Mercy could use a bit of "Actor out of Work" or "Marrow" energy to liven up the proceedings.

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:48 (fourteen years ago)

her stuff is fine but i don't get why people are super into it?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:49 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/tIOK6.jpg

26. Oneohtrix Point Never — Replica (474 points, 17 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: 6
P&J: 35

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J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:49 (fourteen years ago)

hurrah!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

how does replica compare to returnal?

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:51 (fourteen years ago)

It's good, but it's no Returnal

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:52 (fourteen years ago)

her stuff is fine but i don't get why people are super into it?

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, February 1, 2012 2:49 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

good songwriter
cool guitar sounds
deadpan singing
she is awesome

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

Replica isn't as good, in my opinion.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

good songwriter
cool guitar sounds
deadpan singing
video games

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

Didn't take to 'Replica'. Favourite Lopatin related thing this yr was the collab thing with Borden, Ferraro, Godin, Halo.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

I liked Returnal more but now I can't remember what Replica sounds like.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

Nowhere near as good as Returnal, I missed both the screaming noise and the strange ballardy balladry.

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:55 (fourteen years ago)

OPN consensus, it seems!

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:57 (fourteen years ago)

I listened to this in a laundromat once and thought it was p good at the time.

original bgm, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:57 (fourteen years ago)

intrigued by the borden/ferraro/godin/halo collabo record. what's this one like? a pleasant, new age-y wash of sound?

original bgm, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:58 (fourteen years ago)

ez snappin
played-out joke
video gamezzzz

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:59 (fourteen years ago)

Replica might not be as good as Returnal but it still was very good and worthy in its own right.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:59 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/g5HU4.jpg

25. Frank Ocean — Nostalgia, Ultra. (476 points, 12 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: 35
P&J: 16

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J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:00 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, it was its own distinct thing, but that thing just wasn't as satisfying as the other. xp re Replica

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:01 (fourteen years ago)

now that is a bad fkin album cover

try again, fascist (Matt P), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:01 (fourteen years ago)

if by bad you mean awesome!

skip, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:02 (fourteen years ago)

oh for fucks sake

try again, fascist (Matt P), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:02 (fourteen years ago)

gtfo

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:02 (fourteen years ago)

bad fkin album title too

mediocre fkin album

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:02 (fourteen years ago)

even when i think i've listened to a lot of music in a given year, i really haven't

that or too much music comes out in general

poindexter q. dorkington (obster lob), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:04 (fourteen years ago)

Forest in your backyard
And an orange fast car
VIDEO GAAAAAMEZ.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:04 (fourteen years ago)

Just floggin' the dead horse.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:04 (fourteen years ago)

Frank Ocean got more concentrated listening over 3 months than any other record I listened to this year. Don't go back to it much now but loved it hard.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:05 (fourteen years ago)

The Top 100 Fonts of All Time.torrent

try again, fascist (Matt P), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:05 (fourteen years ago)

Looks like a second division britpop bands cover.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:06 (fourteen years ago)

Frank Ocean album is p great apart from that Hotel California bullshit

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:06 (fourteen years ago)

looks like a stereo mcs 'back to mine' comp

omar little, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:07 (fourteen years ago)

if everything lex hates places outside the top 20 then thursdays countdown will be a bit dull

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:08 (fourteen years ago)

this is actually the liberating part of my whole music collection dying - so many of these albums were in my itunes, and i kept them for..."work purposes" maybe? just in case? and now i realise they need never be in there again

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:08 (fourteen years ago)

i'm possibly not even gonna be around tomorrow - will prob need to leave the house at 7pm GMT

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:08 (fourteen years ago)

Backtracking a bit, I really liked the Araabmuzik album, especially the cheesiest bits. Not sure it's a musical direction that I'd be waiting to see develop all that much, but it was good fun as trashy genre hijacking.

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:09 (fourteen years ago)

lol omar

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:10 (fourteen years ago)

Frank Ocean album is p great apart from that Hotel California bullshit

if by "p great" you mean "staggeringly brilliant", then yes. and that hotel california bullshit really is. bullshit i mean. i mean it's bullshit. anyway, great album, in my top 5, way too low here.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:12 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/icsao.jpg

24. Colin Stetson — New History Warfare Vol. 2: Judges (481 points, 13 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: 44
P&J: 42

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J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:13 (fourteen years ago)

yessssssssssssssssssssssssssss

designing ladies (crüt), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:14 (fourteen years ago)

That Colin Stetson record is great!

polyphonic, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:14 (fourteen years ago)

my #3

designing ladies (crüt), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:14 (fourteen years ago)

i know there is no chance and i am not even a huge fan of the record but i can not tell you how much i would enjoy the corrupted album dropping in here like a mean drunk at a wedding reception

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:15 (fourteen years ago)

Astonishing piece of work, glad to see it place so high.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:16 (fourteen years ago)

no chance :(

xp

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:16 (fourteen years ago)

Wowwwwwwww hell yes, so high!!

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:16 (fourteen years ago)

looks like the metal poll winner isn't going to place either.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:17 (fourteen years ago)

I hadn't heard of this Colin Stetson record, but watching a clip right now from CBC and it's stunning! Thanks voters for pointing me toward it.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:17 (fourteen years ago)

This Oneohtrix record is just my bag. Really love it.

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:17 (fourteen years ago)

i gotta run out in like 15 mins so i'm gonna drop the final three kinda quickly

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:18 (fourteen years ago)

23. E-40 — Revenue Retrievin: Overtime Shift/Graveyard Shift (484 points, 16 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 180

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J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:18 (fourteen years ago)

No cover?

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:18 (fourteen years ago)

who is colin stetson?

the volume of e-40 material once again defeated me this year

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:20 (fourteen years ago)

i like the e-40 albums but yeah it's a lot of music to digest

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:21 (fourteen years ago)

whoops

http://i.imgur.com/z2UVQ.jpg

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:21 (fourteen years ago)

just listened to st. vincent "cruel" (fun!) and and am now checking out colin stetson. sweet christ, this stuff is gorgeous. where did stetson come from? can i get this on vinyl? best and most surprising thing on this list since julia holter. thank you, ilx!

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:21 (fourteen years ago)

Colin Stetson is great but missed my ballot due to not quite enough listening to it before the vote finished. Did vote for 'Judges' in the tracks poll, though.

emil.y, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:22 (fourteen years ago)

YESSS 40watta

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:22 (fourteen years ago)

goon cru consensus in action I would assume

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:22 (fourteen years ago)

graveyard shift is really great, overtime shift is alright too

ciderpress, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:23 (fourteen years ago)

ok so i was digging this colin stetson thing and i thought it was some kinda skronky electronic deal...but this is a sax album???

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:23 (fourteen years ago)

probably the best and the worst of the 4

ciderpress, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:23 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/Y92X2.jpg

22. Lady Gaga — Born This Way (488 points, 14 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 30

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J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:23 (fourteen years ago)

^ no idea how this happened

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:24 (fourteen years ago)

don't be a drag

designing ladies (crüt), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:24 (fourteen years ago)

E-40 was my #2. knew it would place, was hoping for top 20, but 23's pretty respectable, i guess. tons of stuff to digest, yeah, but graveyard's unstoppable. and even if overtime is relatively weak, i almost never bummed when something off one of these comes up on shuffle.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:24 (fourteen years ago)

If I'd got my shit together to vote for tracks 'My Lil Grimey N***a' would've been in there.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:25 (fourteen years ago)

^ no idea how this happened

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, February 1, 2012 1:24 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you don't get why it came in out of the top 10? yeah, me neither.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:25 (fourteen years ago)

I get why; as an album it isn't that good

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:25 (fourteen years ago)

silver linings

omar little, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:25 (fourteen years ago)

"Fuck 'Em" is probably my favorite

xp

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:26 (fourteen years ago)

big xp

intrigued by the borden/ferraro/godin/halo collabo record. what's this one like? a pleasant, new age-y wash of sound?

― (⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Wednesday, February 1, 2012 8:58 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's a reasonable description, if you accept that such a thing can be very good.

two lights crew (seandalai), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:26 (fourteen years ago)

lol @ j0rdan using the single cover of "born this way" rather than the dreadful album cover

inexplicably, "electric chapel" wound up being my favourite song on a wildly uneven, bloated album. will also rep for "scheiße" and "bloody mary" quite hard. the rest, less so

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:27 (fourteen years ago)

"judas" is underrated & the sax solo on "edge of glory" is of course classic, but a massive misstep after FAME MONSTER imo

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:27 (fourteen years ago)

alright last one for today, sorry to dump this on y'all

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:28 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/7n0fu.jpg

21. Shabazz Palaces — Black Up (502 points, 17 votes)

P4K: 14
P&J: 10

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J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:28 (fourteen years ago)

Certainly happy to see Colin Stetson up here, even if it didn't grab me enough to make my ballot.

two lights crew (seandalai), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:28 (fourteen years ago)

seriously this colin stetson is blowing me away, how is he doing this?

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:28 (fourteen years ago)

thx j0rd! enjoy your afternoon.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:28 (fourteen years ago)

Colin Stetson recording is really interesting. Sax with a ton of mics (I am assuming both contact, close, and room mics) and then mixed to get that rich textural sound. Cool shit.

grandavis, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:29 (fourteen years ago)

XP

The Borden/Ferraro/Godin/Halo collab is pretty much a new age synth drone record, it's more akin to the earlier Oneohtrix stuff that was what I fell in love with in the first place. Feels like optimistic kosmiche.

Liked but didn't love Shabazz Palaces, I think it may have fallen off my ballot in the final reckoning.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:29 (fourteen years ago)

No overdubs either

grandavis, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:29 (fourteen years ago)

"The Righteous Wrath of an Honorable Man" is my fav from that Stetson record

designing ladies (crüt), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:29 (fourteen years ago)

Colin Stetson is awesome. Great sound on that too.

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:29 (fourteen years ago)

check some live videos. He looks like he's going to die quite a lot of the time

Number None, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:29 (fourteen years ago)

There's a great Q video of Stetson doing 'Judges' on YT, and another where he shows you how.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:29 (fourteen years ago)

Glad I'm not the only one stunned by Colin Stetson!

Huge thanks to everyone who got this onto the countdown.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:30 (fourteen years ago)

E-40 yesssssssss

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:30 (fourteen years ago)

Shabazz Palaces is fantastic. so far pretty much all my favorite hip hop stuff of this year has placed, with the exception of Kool G Rap

xp

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:30 (fourteen years ago)

here's the cbc clip of him playing "Judges" http://youtu.be/k9YJM2GCvk8

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:30 (fourteen years ago)

Oh, and lots of circular breathing to get the repeato riffs (all in response to how Colin Stetson made that record)

grandavis, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:30 (fourteen years ago)

check some live videos. He looks like he's going to die quite a lot of the time

― Number None, Wednesday, February 1, 2012 9:29 PM (9 seconds ago)

LOL, yeah. Though the dude is hella beefcake, if marines did circular breathing he'd be in the special corps.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:31 (fourteen years ago)

psyched to see shabazz palaces, though i knew it would do well. another of my top 10 and totally worth seeing live. beautiful design job on the LP, too.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:31 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, the Stetson is p. cool. Only heard it in December (I think Nabisco enthused about it somewhere), but I can imagine that it could've made my list if I'd spent more time with it.

jaymc, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:32 (fourteen years ago)

No overdubs either

― grandavis, Wednesday, February 1, 2012 3:29 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ok no fucking way, for serious?

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:32 (fourteen years ago)

All sounds due to mic placement and extended techniques (i.e, all live)

grandavis, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:33 (fourteen years ago)

so many things on this list are stuff that i dutifully checked out at the time and never clicked with me - shabazz palaces is very admirable i guess but i just never wanted to listen to it? i don't think any of my more obscure choices are gonna place aside from dawn richard :(

colin stetson sounds interesting though

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:33 (fourteen years ago)

watch that youtube clip - fucking incredible stuff

designing ladies (crüt), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:34 (fourteen years ago)

saw stetson play at ATP in the fall. the guy is mesmerizing

lemon pre-game, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:34 (fourteen years ago)

ok yeah i was afraid this would be gimmicky but i'm sold

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:35 (fourteen years ago)

Lex you would love the Colin Stetson album I think, it's kind of an astonishing record. I had been expecting jazz when I listened to it but it's like... imagine if Carl Craig played a 100+ year old bass sax. And I'm not shitting you, it actually sounds like Carl Craig.

Don't know much about these things but I have no idea how he managed to wring some of those sounds out of his instrument, especially so many of them at the same time. Fully deserves the hype.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:37 (fourteen years ago)

This is what I wrote on Stetson after hearing Judges:

The first time I heard Colin Stetson he was the opening act for Godspeed You! Black Emperor and it was absolutely mind-blowing. Some of us mistook him as a sound engineer and were caught completely by surprise when he started playing. One by one we fell into a silent trance as he created out of thin air the most magnificent, heartbroken beasts I’ve ever heard from a one man band. Recorded in one take with no overdubs, Judges captures the thrill of hearing him live with precision. Not only is the record technically impressive and conceptually novel but also highly compelling at a musical level. Inspired by post-rock and electronic pioneers, Stetson favors sonic aesthetics over experimentation, every deviation sounding calculated enough as to not scare the feeble away but smart enough to hook the most demanding listeners.

Moka, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:37 (fourteen years ago)

i'd be interested if it was jazz! i'm d/lding it now

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:38 (fourteen years ago)

You can tell he worked on it for a long time, it's not free jazz or just strange sounds, he tries to make it really musical and expressive, though it's still solo sax, so it has limits.

grandavis, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:38 (fourteen years ago)

He kind of sounds like the Caspar Brotzmann of the bass sax.

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:38 (fourteen years ago)

Check out this bit of Colin describing how he makes "Judges":

http://youtu.be/UejNbSrJIuA

polyphonic, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:39 (fourteen years ago)

Also a bit let down Shabazz Palaces didn't place higher. I was expecting it to place top 10. Had the idea many people in here loved it.

Moka, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:39 (fourteen years ago)

currently i'm relistening to julia holter and it's kind of enjoyably odd but i cannot get a handle on it or find an entry point into it at all

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:39 (fourteen years ago)

The Stetson isn't a scary record, the 'not experimental, more sonic aesthetic' is a good shout, sometimes on listening to it as a whole I've thought it might be slightly too tasteful.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:40 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah it's very accessible, it's no scary skronkfest.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:40 (fourteen years ago)

ok this colin stetson album is pretty great. i'm getting heavy 'world of echo' vibes.

try again, fascist (Matt P), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:41 (fourteen years ago)

I didn't really get into Shabazz Palaces either :/

Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:41 (fourteen years ago)

As to how is Colin Stetson doing it:

Lots of technique. He learnt circular breathing and applies it to the instrument, there's also mics all over his saxophone and he also uses his throat and hands to add up to the sounds.

Moka, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:41 (fourteen years ago)

He kind of sounds like the Caspar Brotzmann of the bass sax.

well, he certainly isn't peter

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:41 (fourteen years ago)

currently i'm relistening to julia holter and it's kind of enjoyably odd but i cannot get a handle on it or find an entry point into it at all

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, February 1, 2012 9:39 PM (16 seconds ago)

That's part of what I LOVE about it, I can't tie it in with anything fully, on one part it feels akin to Laurie Anderson or Meredith Monk in terms of artiness and pitch, on another side I see people calling it chillwave or comparing to Zola Jesus. None of these nail it.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:42 (fourteen years ago)

so far Colin Stetson is like if Arthur Russell and Philip Glass had a baby and he learned saxophone

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:42 (fourteen years ago)

yeah totally, + a little bit of that guy.. james blackshaw

try again, fascist (Matt P), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:43 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, the no overdubs thing is crazy--i had no idea! need to listen to that again

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:44 (fourteen years ago)

oh, "world of echoes" is a brilliant point of reference

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:44 (fourteen years ago)

That's part of what I LOVE about it, I can't tie it in with anything fully, on one part it feels akin to Laurie Anderson or Meredith Monk in terms of artiness and pitch, on another side I see people calling it chillwave or comparing to Zola Jesus. None of these nail it.

it's not that - it's that i'm not hearing anything that hooks me in and makes me want to listen again, i'm hearing a lot of pleasant sounds in a strange order but nothing compelling or moreish

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:45 (fourteen years ago)

oh god these arthur russell mentions just made me remember that all my arthur russell music died with the hard drive. all of it. gone.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:45 (fourteen years ago)

stetson does not click with me, do you love him because of his skills and physical feats as a sax player ("circus freak aspect") or because of the music he makes? it is astonishing what he gets out of the instrument but this kind of thing has been done by roland kirk and free jazzers like "i forgot his name", i think the album was called "sound" before. the tones stetson produces go in circles, it is almost like listening to someone breathing loudly. not really thrilling.

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:46 (fourteen years ago)

stetson does not click with me, do you love him because of his skills and physical feats as a sax player ("circus freak aspect") or because of the music he makes?

well for me, i honestly was digging it kinda like oh this is sorta in that vein of these new tim hecker dudes more more skronky electronics and didn't even know it was sax

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:47 (fourteen years ago)

FUCK YES SHABAZZ PALACES

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:48 (fourteen years ago)

I'll have a few albums to check out tonight if I have time. My rankings:

39 Girls - 279
38 Junior Boys - 273
37 Death Grips - 260
36 Holy Ghost! - 25
35 Holter - 137
34 Cut Copy - 364
33 Maus - 15
32 Panda Bear - 361
29 Spears - 527
28 Araabmuzik - 400
27 St. Vincent - 38
26 Oneohtrix Point Never - 160
25 Ocean - 165
22 Lady Gaga - 525
21 Shabazz Palaces - 163

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:48 (fourteen years ago)

so far Colin Stetson is like if Arthur Russell and Philip Glass had a baby and he learned saxophone

otm, but moka also otm re: "heartbroken beasts". the emotional connection point w constellation cru/godspeed and stuff like the dirty 3 is p obvious. raw sorrow, reach towards transcendence, the broken and grandiose aspects inseparable.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:48 (fourteen years ago)

That Colin Stetson video just broke my mind. Amazing.

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:48 (fourteen years ago)

roscoe mitchell's album was called "sound". that was more interesting iirc, more expressive.

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:49 (fourteen years ago)

stetson's using a tape echo, yes?

xp

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:49 (fourteen years ago)

(in which case yeah - Roland Kirk, Eddie Harris, etc.)

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:49 (fourteen years ago)

xpost Will check that out

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:50 (fourteen years ago)

and yeah, james blackshaw is another good comparison point. for me, the technique has nothing to do with my appreciation. i like the music as music, and on that level, couldn't care less how the sounds are achieved. do appreciate the skill and athleticism for their own sake, but that's just a bonus.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:51 (fourteen years ago)

Alex, I don't understand your point. I don't think anyone is saying that this is the best bass saxophone record of all time, or that he invented the techniques he uses.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:51 (fourteen years ago)

the tones stetson produces go in circles, it is almost like listening to someone breathing loudly. not really thrilling.

― alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, February 1, 2012 1:46 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

would say the same of james blackshaw, and i like him, too. not thrilling perhaps, but inviting and hypnotic. and the sounds themselves are gorgeous.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:53 (fourteen years ago)

idk, i need to relisten, but i went in expecting something like Mitchell or Kirk or Braxton and was surprised at how non-jazz, not even free jazz, it is. true, he didn't invent the technique but I think he's doing something new with it. all the drone/minimalism refs (terry riley too maybe?) make sense to me

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:54 (fourteen years ago)

the live video of judges is pretty amazing but i had to turn it off because this post kept popping into my head and i would LOL

He looks like he's going to die quite a lot of the time

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:54 (fourteen years ago)

or, contenderizer otm

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:54 (fourteen years ago)

feel like philip glass is a big part of what happened to indie in the 2000s

try again, fascist (Matt P), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:55 (fourteen years ago)

polyphonic, i am not criticising stetson for not being original, i just wanted to say that i don't dig what i heard in that live performance, that i have other sax players in mind who did this kind of thing in a more convincing way. but maybe i have to listen again as i did not listen until the end.

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:55 (fourteen years ago)

It's not really about being a sax record, it's more about the atmospherics than the role of the instrument. Constellation/Godspeed mentions upthread = otm. It's a post-rock record 1st+f'most.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:57 (fourteen years ago)

I know what Alex is saying cos that video didn't really do a lot for me either beyond ~how does he do that?~. Would imagine it to be better live where you'd feel the full force of it.

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:59 (fourteen years ago)

why do we spend so much time arguing/worrying about genre classification on this thread?

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 21:59 (fourteen years ago)

why do you keep afflicting this thread with your presence after you said you wouldn't?

try again, fascist (Matt P), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:01 (fourteen years ago)

How would you compare Colin Stetson to, say, John Butcher? is his stuff generally more melodic, more song oriented?

Dan S, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:03 (fourteen years ago)

Re: Colin Stetson
I played bari sax throughout HS, and while the growling over ostinatos is kinda old hat, Stetson has astonishing circular breathing technique. Mixing the pad noise contact mics, layrnx collar mic, bell mic and room mic is brilliant.

Circular breathing is also fairly dangerous as instrumental techniques go, as the pressure on cerebral veins. Don't know if Rahsaan Roland Kirk's stroke at age 39 was caused by circular breathing, but I wouldn't discount it.

Sanpaku, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:03 (fourteen years ago)

why do we spend so much time arguing/worrying about genre classification on this thread?

― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, February 1, 2012 9:59 PM (1 minute ago)

Because it contextualises how we approach the music we listen to and our expectations. Improperly compartmentalising something can fuck up yr appreciation of it - if you view Stetson as a free-jazz sax record you'd think it sucked balls, if you view it as a post-rock record it's the shiz.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:03 (fourteen years ago)

or you could just listen to it

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:04 (fourteen years ago)

ok i'm never going to post on this thread again starting now

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:05 (fourteen years ago)

I prefer to not think about post-rock at all.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:05 (fourteen years ago)

well i think colin stetson is really *neat* so thx to those who voted for it

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:07 (fourteen years ago)

not thrilling perhaps, but inviting and hypnotic. and the sounds themselves are gorgeous.
the longer i listen to it the more it makes sense. so there is obviously something hypnotic about it. but there is not a lot happening musically. it is a very minimal approach just going in circles with the occasional "shout". it has definitely got a very human quality to it, like listening to amplified breathing. but it seems to be the kind of stuff which is perfect prey for critics as they can project so much onto it. musically it seems rather poor though. all i have listened to is that judges video on youtub.

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:09 (fourteen years ago)

I prefer to not think about post-rock at all.

^^^

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:10 (fourteen years ago)

'43 (ft. b-legit)' off of graveyard shift is, by far, the track I played most off of anything that's placed so far. LOVE it.

1-2 combo into 'that candy paint' is killer too.

original bgm, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:11 (fourteen years ago)

I voted for "Judges" in tracks (or at least I intended to, not sure now) because it represents what I like best about the album. Don't really like the spoken word pieces.

two lights crew (seandalai), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:12 (fourteen years ago)

Looks like I missed a lot! Plenty of great albums here. Can we have a summary please?

I must be listening to a different Panda Bear than you guys, because to me it's a squillion times more interesting than Person Pitch, which was a sloppy mess of incongruous loops and out of tune harmonies; and miles better than the last two Animal Collective albums. It really sounds like he's hit that centre ground of all his influences - the Beach Boys meets Underground Resistance meets the Boredoms' later records. Last Night At The Jetty is the highlight for me - I've said it before, but it sounds like Kiss Me Baby from the Beach Boys' Today album turned inside out. I hear the title track as an attempt to subvert the early 90s techno template. Scheherazde has this eerie serpentine feel. Also very much like Benfica - which is a tribute to the footballing stadium in his Portuguese hometown.

I was rabidly excited about the St Vincent album, having discovered Actor through a previous poll ('09?) and falling head over heels in love with it. Sadly this doesn't live up to scratch - there are impressive moments and I adore Cruel (think that was my number one on the tracks poll), but there just aren't as many hooks and too many discordant bits on this record.

Julia Holter I'm happy did well - such a slight, beautiful little record. And yes, GOddess Eyes is lovely.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:13 (fourteen years ago)

and many x-posts but thanks for the clarification on borden/ferraro/godin/halo, guys. have been suffering from a bit of a oneohtrix/pleasant synth music overload since the tail end of 2011 but I still have lots of love for the style when it's done right. will be checking this one out.

original bgm, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:14 (fourteen years ago)

I'm still not sure I completely understand the point of 'meta-music' like onephtrix point never and flylo and James ferrero - it's all very clever, but is it enjoyable? I dunno. The Ford & Lopatin should' e been amazing, instead it was just quite good. Brilliant production, but not a lot to come back to.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:17 (fourteen years ago)

and many x-posts but thanks for the clarification on borden/ferraro/godin/halo, guys. have been suffering from a bit of a oneohtrix/pleasant synth music overload since the tail end of 2011 but I still have lots of love for the style when it's done right. will be checking this one out.

― (⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Wednesday, February 1, 2012 10:14 PM (3 minutes ago)

NB: the last two tracks are the strongest - make sure you play it through.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:18 (fourteen years ago)

theres a track called 'pacific twilight' off the borden et al record on youtube, i know ive posted it to ilx before but its a decent example of what the record is 'about'

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:19 (fourteen years ago)

'43 (ft. b-legit)' off of graveyard shift is, by far, the track I played most off of anything that's placed so far. LOVE it.

1-2 combo into 'that candy paint' is killer too.

― (⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Wednesday, February 1, 2012 10:11 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Dammit for real was about to post these exact same words, like word for word... word. For real. ^5 Alan

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:19 (fourteen years ago)

feel like philip glass is a big part of what happened to indie in the 2000s

Can you explain this? Apart from hearing some Glassian (though maybe more accurately Reichian) motifs on some of Sufjan's stuff, I don't know that I hear him as a broad influence. Dan Deacon?

jaymc, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:22 (fourteen years ago)

- it's all very clever, but is it enjoyable?

Goodness yes, it's beautiful.

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:23 (fourteen years ago)

Not sure it's accurate to put Ford & Lopatin in the same box as Ferraro...F+L album felt like they were honestly trying to create a pop record in the same vain as the last M83. Where they (and M83) fall down imo is in not writing good enough pop songs even if they nail the textures/drum sounds/whatever.

two lights crew (seandalai), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:25 (fourteen years ago)

I'm still not sure I completely understand the point of 'meta-music' like onephtrix point never and flylo and James ferrero

please explain how flylo is at all 'meta-music'?

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:27 (fourteen years ago)

hahaha high five to spottie ottie dope

original bgm, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:28 (fourteen years ago)

also, not a ferarro fan but the appeal of oneohtrix is really apparent to me. it's like, 'do you like spacey analog synth sounds? here, have some.'

original bgm, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:30 (fourteen years ago)

Colin Stetson was my #1, good work everyone!

i'll go to bat for Panda Bear: I really don't think this album fits comfortably into any niche; not part of the sub-animal collective scene that's rampant and hardly even related to the lo fi beach boys collage of Person Pitch. It's its own idiosyncratic soup, pretty monochromatic and totally lacking in cool beats or almost anything en vogue in 2011. hymns from a morass i guess. Kept going back to it anyway.

Cosmo Vitelli, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:31 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, 'indie' is meaningless there obv. i'm thinking of gybe and arcade fire in particular, that sort of slow 'epic' diatonic progression w variation. definitely james blackshaw but i guess he's later. i get the same feeling/mood from philip glass scores (pseudo-portentousness?). xp to jaymc

i like the colin stetson album but i'm not sure how i feel about the vox. makes me think i like the textures more than the compositions and the impulse behind them? this is tied in w/ the way i feel about philip glass i guess.

try again, fascist (Matt P), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:33 (fourteen years ago)

Hey three of my votes made it (Maus, Stetson, Shabazz). What a great day!

Thrilled to see so many flip out over Stetson; I had counted it out. That means I still expect five of my votes, and if other albums I expect to place show up too, that will p much make it the greatest top 20 ever!

Also: Kerr, I think u might owe me a Coke, bro ;)

Drugs A. Money, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:34 (fourteen years ago)

except for 'music for 18 musicians' and lots of other pieces i guess, maybe i'm holding on to bad associations from the jackson pollock biopic or whatever

try again, fascist (Matt P), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:35 (fourteen years ago)

You should do Panda Bear's PR Cosmo

Number None, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:35 (fourteen years ago)

i really love that shabazz palaces album

try again, fascist (Matt P), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:35 (fourteen years ago)

this colin stetson album is fantastic!

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:36 (fourteen years ago)

"Tomboy" by Panda Bear is out now! Critics have called it an "idiosyncratic soup", "pretty monochromatic". Buy it today!

two lights crew (seandalai), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:37 (fourteen years ago)

You should do Panda Bear's PR Cosmo

lol didn't think i was giving it a ringing endorsement

Cosmo Vitelli, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:39 (fourteen years ago)

xpost ahaha

Cosmo Vitelli, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:39 (fourteen years ago)

lots of good stuff in this poll. i was listening to the stott album and realized it was better than i'd remembered, then remembered i'd actually voted for it. i've had that revelation twice now, i guess...

omar little, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:44 (fourteen years ago)

loving that Nguzunguzu mix - guess i should read that thread huh

jabba hands, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:01 (fourteen years ago)

too soon for predictions?

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:03 (fourteen years ago)

Digging into Stetson a little more -- not surprised that there's a Tim Hecker remix of one of his tracks, or that it's great.

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:04 (fourteen years ago)

Judging by what we've had, I still have no idea what'll come up. I know the albums countdown is usually a bit more indie/rock/alternative than tracks, but the disparity's so noticeable this year it's as though it were two different boards.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:06 (fourteen years ago)

Anyone want to predict surprising inclusions/absences in the top 20?

two lights crew (seandalai), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:07 (fourteen years ago)

peaking lights better be in there

Cosmo Vitelli, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:08 (fourteen years ago)

New Order reissues fill up the top 10?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:08 (fourteen years ago)

too soon for predictions?

i've no idea at all - there are 5 on my ballot that i assume will place (all quite obvious). another 2 that could plausibly be top 20. but this entire list has been full of the unexpected and most of my own curveballs can prob be written off now :(

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:08 (fourteen years ago)

Surprising absence - Bon Iver? Really don't know how people feel about that record but seeing as Holocene wasn't even nommed in the tracks poll...

Dog Latin, I think you can kiss King Creosote goodbye

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:09 (fourteen years ago)

:'(

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:11 (fourteen years ago)

the 5 i assume are def to come - beyoncé, katy b, pj harvey, pistol annies, dj quik
the 2 that i think are somewhat likely - tropical 2, kate bush
another 2 that i expected to place but not this high - rustie, roll the dice
curveballs that i thought miiiight squeak into the 77 but have given up on - nikkiya, cher lloyd, meshell ndegéocello, frivolous, young bleed, phaedra :(

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:11 (fourteen years ago)

I can hazard a guess at the top 2/3 but that's it really.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:11 (fourteen years ago)

i'd like to see frivolous do well, but I don't think enough people have heard it. Rustie'll probably be in the next five or so. PJ and Katy B are locks for the top 5.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:13 (fourteen years ago)

kate bush is a no-doubter

omar little, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:13 (fourteen years ago)

the finds of the poll for me so far have been stetson, austra, and hatchback. even if those are all the honest-to-god "discoveries" i'd be pretty happy.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:13 (fourteen years ago)

Guessing the top ten will be:

beyonce
destroyer
pj harvey
dj quik
katy b
m83
pistol annies
tropical 2
kate bush
tune yards

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:14 (fourteen years ago)

judging by the trax poll i'd guess we can also anticipate destroyer, ema, m83, gang gang dance, tune-yards, cass mccombs (whose album i've now heard after "county line" placed and i really like it!)

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:14 (fourteen years ago)

peaking lights better be in there

^^^oh yeah, i almost forgot.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:16 (fourteen years ago)

Did Nicolas Jaar place yet?

Number None, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:16 (fourteen years ago)

No he didn't.

Tim Hecker is the only one of my votes that I'm quite sure of (nothing else has made it so far, boo hiss)

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:17 (fourteen years ago)

Planningtorock and Iceage might be outside bets. Would love to see Julianna Barwick, but am braced for heartbraek.

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:18 (fourteen years ago)

did ilx precovers lulu show up already? because thats prob a lock

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:20 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, that was on here already

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:21 (fourteen years ago)

iirc i voted Julianna Barwick pretty high, and Phaedra was my #4

Cosmo Vitelli, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:25 (fourteen years ago)

there are two good songs on the cut copy album -- the first two iirc -- and then it falls off a cliff more or less

sucks cuz 'in ghost colours' is one of the best albums

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, February 1, 2012 1:36 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so wrong

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:29 (fourteen years ago)

loutallica is a lock for top 5

⚓ (gr8080), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:31 (fourteen years ago)

i don't think goon cru consensus is really what drove e-40 at this pt, he's certainly crossed over to the regular ilx crowd

idg why contenderizer thinks overtime shift is 'relatively weak' tho

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:33 (fourteen years ago)

i'd say there's been a low goon cru impact on this list so far, not sure what's going to make it other than grandfathered in teflon artists like Quik & E-40

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:34 (fourteen years ago)

anyway back to cut copy, 'hanging onto every heartbeat' and 'pyramids and pharoahes' are both >>>>> the first two tracks

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:38 (fourteen years ago)

77. When Saints Go Machine — Konkylie (258 points, 10 votes, one first place vote)
76. Robag Wruhme — Thora Vukk (262 points, 8 votes)
75. Liturgy — Aesthethica (264 points, nine votes)
74. The Joy Formidable — The Big Roar (266 points, seven votes, one first place vote)
73. Jay-Z & Kanye West — Watch the Throne (266 points, 10 votes)
72. Barbara Panther — Barbara Panther (270 points, seven votes, two first place votes)
71. Toro y Moi - Underneath the Pine (271 points, nine votes)

(tie) 69. Wild Flag — Wild Flag (273 points, 10 votes)
(tie) 69. Low — C'Mon (273 points, 10 votes)
68. ILX Presents Lulu (276 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)
67. Veronica Falls - Veronica Falls (282 points, 11 votes)
66. Big K.R.I.T. - Return of 4Eva (288 points, 10 votes)
65. The Psychic Paramount - II (290 points, 9 votes)
64. Wolves in the Throne Room - Celestial Lineage (290 points, nine votes, one first place vote)
63. Austra - Feel it Break (290 points, ten votes, one first place vote)
62. Drake – Take Care (292 points, 8 votes, one first place vote)
61. Lykke Li – Wounded Rhymes (294 points, 10 votes)

60. James Ferraro — Far Side Virtual (295 points, 11 votes)
59. Perfume — JPN (298 points, 10 votes, two first place votes)
58. Grouper — Alien Observer/Dream Loss (304 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)
57. The War on Drugs — Slave Ambient (322 points, nine votes, one first place vote)
56. Danny Brown — XXX (323 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)
55. Mastodon — The Hunter (328 points, 10 votes)
54. Kendrick Lamar — Section.80 (337 points, 10 votes, one first place vote)
53. Laura Marling — A Creature I Don’t Know (342 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)
52. The Mountain Goats — All Eternals Deck (342 points, 12 votes)
51. Demdike Stare — Tryptych (347 points, 16 votes, one first place vote)

50. Hatchback — Zeus and Apollo (350 points, nine votes, two first place votes)
49. Moon Duo — Mazes (350 points, 12 votes)
48. Tom Waits — Bad As Me (352 points, 14 votes)
47. Clams Casino — Instrumentals (354 points, 12 votes)
46. Azari & III — Azari & III (358 points, 12 votes)
45. The Weeknd — House of Balloons (360 points, 10 votes, two first place votes)
44. Fucked Up — David Comes To Life (360 points, 13 votes, one first place vote)
43. Real Estate — Days (361 points, 11 votes, two first place votes)
42. Radiohead — King of Limbs (362 points, 13 votes)
41. Andy Stott — Passed Me By/We Stay Together (363 points, 13 votes)

40. Dawn Richard — The Prelude to a Tell Tale Heart (372 points, 11 votes)
39. Girls — Father, Son, Holy Ghost (374 points, 11 votes)
38. Junior Boys — It’s All True (375 points, 15 votes)
37. Death Grips — Ex-Military (382 points, 13 votes)
36. Holy Ghost! — Holy Ghost! (384 points, 13 votes, one first place vote)
35. Julia Holter — Tragedy (386 points, 14 votes, one first place vote)
34. Cut Copy — Zonoscope (392 points, 12 votes, one first place vote)
33. John Maus — We Must Become The Pitiless Censors of Ourselves (398 points, 14 votes, one first place vote)
32. Panda Bear — Tomboy (402 points, 13 votes)
31. Nguzunguzu — The Perfect Lullaby (404 points, 13 votes, 2 first place votes)

30. Ford & Lopatin — Channel Pressure (410 points, 14 votes)
29. Britney Spears — Femme Fatale (424 points, 13 votes, one first place vote)
28. Araabmuzik — Electronic Dream (445 points, 14 votes)
27. St. Vincent — Strange Mercy (469 points, 14 votes, one first place vote)
26. Oneohtrix Point Never — Replica (474 points, 17 votes, one first place vote)
25. Frank Ocean — Nostalgia, Ultra. (476 points, 12 votes, one first place vote)
24. Colin Stetson — New History Warfare Vol. 2: Judges (481 points, 13 votes, one first place vote)
23. E-40 — Revenue Retrievin: Overtime Shift/Graveyard Shift (484 points, 16 votes)
22. Lady Gaga — Born This Way (488 points, 14 votes, one first place vote)
21. Shabazz Palaces — Black Up (502 points, 17 votes)

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:40 (fourteen years ago)

thanks lamp

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:41 (fourteen years ago)

thx bro

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:43 (fourteen years ago)

Very pleased that Dawn Richard made the list, my number 2 choice. Top 40 feels a respectable outcome for a low-fi mixtape. Lamp OTM upthread, i feel there's something very modern (though not in a flashy or self-conscious manner) and unique about its stripped back rhythmic attack.

If Tropical 2 cracks top 20 I will be ridiculously pleased and smug.

Tim F, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:44 (fourteen years ago)

i'd say there's been a low goon cru impact on this list so far

yeah esp compared to last year. this also seems like the strongest outer zones influenced eoy list ilm has ever had?

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:45 (fourteen years ago)

i'd say there's been a low goon cru impact on this list so far

just piggybacking on lex's comment from tracks thread how lol it is that you take the time to chinstroke abt this but not to vote

⚓ (gr8080), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:48 (fourteen years ago)

dunno if there's less goon cru stuff per se

2010: gucci mane, curren$y, big krit, tyler the creator, rick ross, earl sweatshirt, e-40, waka flocka flame, diddy dirty money, yelawolf, kanye west, big boi (12)
2011: jay-z & kanye west, big krit, drake, danny brown, kendrick lamar, clams casino, death grips, araabmuzik, e-40, shabazz palaces (and at least dj quik to come) (11)

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:50 (fourteen years ago)

not already mentioned as possible top 20: Kurt Vile, Wild Beasts, Raphael Saadiq, Marsha Ambrosius (actually have no idea how popular she was here this year)

Cosmo Vitelli, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:51 (fourteen years ago)

my point wasnt that there was less rap but that the rap/tone of the list seemed much less interested in what the goon cru was championing last year. i think not having their own top w/e preceding this poll hurt w/ that

like death grips, clams casino, araabmuzik and kinda danny brown are the sort of indie rap stuff that i associate much more closely w/cassette label blogs and avant/weirdo posters than goon cru. did most goons even like these acts last year? and jay and kayne and drake are way more pop than goon i guess...

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:54 (fourteen years ago)

didn't even know araabmuzik was considered hip hop personally

Full Frontal Newtity (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:57 (fourteen years ago)

i don't even know what the other rap posters even loved this year - it seems they spent much more time talking about stuff they didn't like but was being hyped. didn't feel there was much rallying around anything or enthusiasm à la WAKA, apart from like dj quik and e-40

my fav hip-hop came from unexpected directions in 2011, quik apart i don't think i'd heard of any of the rappers who made my favourite rap albums at the start of the year

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 23:58 (fourteen years ago)

Danny Brown has good standing amongst the goons.

Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:01 (fourteen years ago)

just piggybacking on lex's comment from tracks thread how lol it is that you take the time to chinstroke abt this but not to vote

― ⚓ (gr8080), Wednesday, February 1, 2012 5:48 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i didnt know the poll was happening, as i explained already

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:04 (fourteen years ago)

i ignored it because i thought i didn't care, but it turns out that i do. i care.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:06 (fourteen years ago)

dunno if there's less goon cru stuff per se

2010: gucci mane, curren$y, big krit, tyler the creator, rick ross, earl sweatshirt, e-40, waka flocka flame, diddy dirty money, yelawolf, kanye west, big boi (12)
2011: jay-z & kanye west, big krit, drake, danny brown, kendrick lamar, clams casino, death grips, araabmuzik, e-40, shabazz palaces (and at least dj quik to come) (11)

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, February 1, 2012 5:50 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah lamp is OTM & even the ones this year (quik. krit. e-40) that goon cru do like are ones that we had already championed in years past

part of it at least from my perspective is that for the most part my 'champion-ing' moved off-board & onto my blog & paid writing. I am a bit disappointed no one jumped onto boldy james, which i even made a thread for on the sandbox & thought would appeal as much to younger goons like brainwasher as old heads like m@tt

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:06 (fourteen years ago)

deej no offence but dont you say that every year you forget?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:07 (fourteen years ago)

i ignored it because i thought i didn't care, but it turns out that i do. i care.

― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Wednesday, February 1, 2012 6:06 PM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

never said i didnt care! was unaware

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:07 (fourteen years ago)

deej no offence but dont you say that every year you forget?

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, February 1, 2012 6:07 PM (9 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i dont remember why i didnt vote in years past when i didnt; i'm sure sometimes i didn't notice, sometimes i didnt have time, sometimes i didnt want to. i still think i can post itt sorry guys

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:08 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, that Cut Copy album still isn't very good though

Number None, Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:09 (fourteen years ago)

\oO/ completely disagree

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:10 (fourteen years ago)

i think they do much better pop songwriting than most of the groups championed around here. i heard that wu lyf shit yall listen to in the lana del rey thread smh

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:11 (fourteen years ago)

"Better than Wu Lyf" is pretty fucked up in terms of faint praise

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:12 (fourteen years ago)

As an outsider my possibly way-off-base sense of goon crew heavy hitters last year was basically Meek Mill, Don Trip & Starlito, maybe Schoolboy Q, maybe 2 Chainz, and Kendrick to the extent that he counts?

It didn't seem like there was much consensus past Meek though?

But I don't read the thread closely enough to say for sure.

Tim F, Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:13 (fourteen years ago)

judging by the trax poll i'd guess we can also anticipate destroyer, ema, m83, gang gang dance, tune-yards, cass mccombs (whose album i've now heard after "county line" placed and i really like it!)

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, February 1, 2012 6:14 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

glad you liked the album! did you listen to just wit's end or humor risk too?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:14 (fourteen years ago)

i don't even know what the other rap posters even loved this year

i only follow the thread intermittently but my sense was stuff like meek mill, the step brothers tape, killer mike maybe freddie gibbs in addition to the stuff everyone else liked.

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:15 (fourteen years ago)

glad you liked the album! did you listen to just wit's end or humor risk too?

just wit's end so far - "knock upon the door" was probably the one i liked best after "county line". he uses space really well.

i should've voted for meek mill but i didn't think the tape was quite consistent enough to make my ballot.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:18 (fourteen years ago)

"Alisa" is my fave track on cut copy. killer chorus imo.

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:18 (fourteen years ago)

\oO/ completely disagree

― #YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40)

Yeah i know, you were one of the few enthusiastic people on its thread. That's why i'm surprised it placed as high as it did

Number None, Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:19 (fourteen years ago)

i thought more than a few ppl were into king louie but apparently not

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:27 (fourteen years ago)

I like him quite a bit. Not sure what you'd expect to place in an albums poll though

Number None, Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:31 (fourteen years ago)

deej what did you think of young bleed & cousin fik? thought you were into the former

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:32 (fourteen years ago)

I was into King Louie! But I don't know it's status amongst the goon crew generally.

Tim F, Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:34 (fourteen years ago)

really thought max b would have a bigger year

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:35 (fourteen years ago)

Bloody HELL, this Nguzunguzu mix! Love!

mike t-diva, Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:36 (fourteen years ago)

deej what did you think of young bleed & cousin fik? thought you were into the former

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, February 1, 2012 6:32 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i liked both! & grady might be joking but i agree w/ that too

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:38 (fourteen years ago)

I was into King Louie! But I don't know it's status amongst the goon crew generally.

― Tim F, Wednesday, February 1, 2012 6:34 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i've started to wonder -- not so much here but w/ popularity more generally -- if my timing on the piece was a little weird, b/c a lot of early adapters like to be a part of the story, but right after i raised awareness he almost stopped releasing new stuff, so people were waiting to hear new shit before cosigning & then nothing new came out

i dunno trying to figure out the 'logic' of artists going viral is probably a mugs game

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:39 (fourteen years ago)

whatever happened to "Dope & Shrimp" anyway?

Number None, Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:41 (fourteen years ago)

cutesy youtubes are how rappers 'cross over' to ilm types iirc

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:42 (fourteen years ago)

lol

xp dope & shrimp is dropping this month

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:42 (fourteen years ago)

grady might be joking but i agree w/ that too

wasnt joking! iirc there was lots of goon debate on dude tho

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:43 (fourteen years ago)

anyway i think mainly if there had been a goon poll like last year then the results would be more goon friendly, but o well

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:51 (fourteen years ago)

& fwiw im not complaining about the results, just describing them as not particularly goon-ish

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:52 (fourteen years ago)

nothing to stop there being an ilm rap poll. If metal crew can do it why not others

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:56 (fourteen years ago)

wouldn't be a bad idea at all.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:59 (fourteen years ago)

anyway i think mainly if there had been a goon poll like last year then the results would be more goon friendly, but o well

― #YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Wednesday, February 1, 2012 2:51 PM (7 minutes ago)

i agree

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:00 (fourteen years ago)

Top 20 predictions:

PJ Harvey
Katy B
Beyonce
Destroyer
Tim Hecker
Uncle Acid
Gang Gang Dance
Pistol Annies
Peaking Lights
Kate Bush
Tuneyards
Tropical 2
Rustie
DJ Quik
YOB
Bill Callahan
Julianna Barwick
EMA
Yuck
...maaaaaybe Corrupted

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:02 (fourteen years ago)

loutallica

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:02 (fourteen years ago)

nothing to stop there being an ilm rap poll. If metal crew can do it why not others

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, February 1, 2012 7:56 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there will NEVER be any rap poll w/ even half of the turnout of the metal polls though

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:03 (fourteen years ago)

what the heck is Uncle Acid?

Number None, Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:05 (fourteen years ago)

Uncle Acid had better place if King Creosote isn't

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:06 (fourteen years ago)

Uncle Acid & The Deadbeats - a really impressive rock album released in mysterious circumstances, has garnered a pretty big following in a fairly short amount of time.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:07 (fourteen years ago)

psychedelic rock . think john lennon hears 13th floor elevators and black sabbath and decides he's gonna have a bit of that. Hard to imagine it being top 20 though.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:10 (fourteen years ago)

I see. Nicolas Jaar will be in there somewhere anyway. Everyone hated James Blake in the end right?

Number None, Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:11 (fourteen years ago)

there will NEVER be any rap poll w/ even half of the turnout of the metal polls though

― lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Wednesday, February 1, 2012 3:03 PM (17 seconds ago)

lol not if you keep it invite-only there wont

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:11 (fourteen years ago)

don't say "you" to me like i approved of that dumb idea! but seriously the ALL TIME hip hop poll got literally less than half the ballots of the 2011 metal poll.

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:15 (fourteen years ago)

the all time hip hop poll was just too much for me tbrr

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:16 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i know that's not a totally fair comparison because some people get intimidated by that kind of thing, but i'm just saying. goons don't vote like metalheads.

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:17 (fourteen years ago)

too busy fighting the power iirc

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:19 (fourteen years ago)

well there also just arent that many ppl who regularly contribute to rolling rap are there? other than deej most of the rap thread regs voted in the traxx poll at least but my impression is that its a more... exclusionary culture than rolling metal

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:20 (fourteen years ago)

anyway im glad you all agreed w/ my point that last years rolling rap all-stars best of twenty-ten list helped goonify the big ilm eoy list

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:22 (fourteen years ago)

On the other hand most of metal crüe don't seem to vote in the ILM poll - if they did they would basically dominate the whole thing.

two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:26 (fourteen years ago)

there was a secret goon poll, results were published secretely & deej wasn't invited--sorry y'all

flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:51 (fourteen years ago)

shhhhhhh

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, 2 February 2012 01:52 (fourteen years ago)

what the heck is Uncle Acid?
― Number None, Wednesday, February 1, 2012 8:05 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark

I thought that said "where" instead of "what" and I was all like "hell yeah."

billstevejim, Thursday, 2 February 2012 02:06 (fourteen years ago)

there was a secret goon poll, results were published secretely & deej wasn't invited--sorry y'all

― flopson, Wednesday, February 1, 2012 7:51 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so its yall's fault that clams casino and araabmuzik instrumental albums beat 99% of hip hop on this year's ilx list

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2012 02:14 (fourteen years ago)

ok i can get on board with this Uncle Acid album

Number None, Thursday, 2 February 2012 02:36 (fourteen years ago)

i personally felt it was a weak year for rap full lengths and sort of an awkward transitional year for rap music in general. while 2010 saw a lot of big debuts & breakouts (waka, lil b, odd fut), most of 2011 felt like a slog as those artists released a high rate of output with little or none of it at the level of quality of their breakout material. tragically, my favourite new rap artist of 2010 (nht boyz) barely released anything all year. many new artists within the more traditional goon aesthetic were met with a mixed reaction (trouble/alley boy, brick squad monopoly, future), while the most unifying new artists (kendrick lamar and schoolboy q) are coming from the opposite aesthetic

flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 02:59 (fourteen years ago)

You R&B and Hip Hop "heads" should check out that album by "The Weekend", which takes both genres to dazzling new heights!

http://www.flashcreed.com/catalog/view/theme/flashcreed/image_flashcreed/stars/stars_4.png

omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:03 (fourteen years ago)

next time i have to defend not giving a shit about kendrick lamar i will just cite flopson's "opposite of goon aesthetic" description

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:05 (fourteen years ago)

some goon purist

flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:06 (fourteen years ago)

studyin at the gooniversity

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:06 (fourteen years ago)

forgot to rope riff-raff & tko capone into my goon narrative

flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:10 (fourteen years ago)

▲TKÕ C∆PΘÑΣ▲✈

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:12 (fourteen years ago)

I have little hope for anything else I voted for, including Uncle Acid, but here's to me being wrong!!

La Lechera, Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:17 (fourteen years ago)

Uncle Acid & The Deadbeats - a really impressive rock album released in mysterious circumstances, has garnered a pretty big following in a fairly short amount of time.

― Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Wednesday, February 1, 2012 5:07 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

still hoping this will show. did my part. but nah, long shot at best.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:24 (fourteen years ago)

i agree that 2011 was largely a rebuilding year for solid goon raps. i found plenty of great full-lengths but found the overall narrative lacking,

with the exception of maybach music, which converted me by bringing back that 'actual rap' to the rap charts again

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:25 (fourteen years ago)

am i crazy to still be holding out hope for covert coup? love the shit out of that shit.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:25 (fourteen years ago)

rich forever is already better than any of the maybach 2011 output tho xp

flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:26 (fourteen years ago)

i agree that covert coup was a very good record considering curren$y's slide into same-iness it still stood apart xp

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:26 (fourteen years ago)

rich forever is already better than any of the maybach 2011 output tho xp

― flopson, Wednesday, February 1, 2012 9:26 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

agreed but have any singles from that charted yet? I meant more in terms of loving 'tupacs back' 'ima boss' 'aston martin music' (carryover from the prev year but nonetheless) 'that way' & other big singles

except for lotus flower bomb. that sucked

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:27 (fourteen years ago)

I will be v surprised a & disappointed if Uncle Acid doesn't show; I remember predicting to Kerr that it would make top 10 but I'm scaling that back. I'm not ready to call it a day yet though, esp since so many voters have represented...

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:42 (fourteen years ago)

also: I totally need to check out that Schoolboy Q album. any relevant discussion on ILM?

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 03:46 (fourteen years ago)

Both the Schoolboy Q albums are v. good.

Tim F, Thursday, 2 February 2012 04:00 (fourteen years ago)

my top 20 predictions:

2562 - fever and spear
adele - 21
beastie boys - hot sauce committee part 2
blut aus nord - 777: Pun(s)
bon iver - s/t
don trip & carlito - stepbros.
driphouse - s/t
fleet foxes - hometown blues
gang gang dance - dont know what this is called
innergaze - shadow disco
lou reed & metallica - hulu
michael pisaro - poison, shadow and farewell
moritz von oswald trio - horizontal structures
SBTRKT - add it up
skrillex - collected ambient works
something from the bathetic records catalog
something on planet mu
terius nash - 1997
xander harris - memories of youth, dreams of old age
yuck - how it feels to be something on

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Thursday, 2 February 2012 04:03 (fourteen years ago)

"1997" was the exact point where i went from a chuckle to a lol

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, 2 February 2012 04:04 (fourteen years ago)

lol michael pisaro
for real though his asleep, street, pipes, tones was my favorite record of 2011!

Dan S, Thursday, 2 February 2012 04:07 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, the stuff he put out on gravity wave this year is uniformly great

original bgm, Thursday, 2 February 2012 04:16 (fourteen years ago)

pulling for ulcerate, destroyers of all. don't let me down ilm

original bgm, Thursday, 2 February 2012 04:19 (fourteen years ago)

stoked that sbtrkt has zero ilx stans apparently

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 04:52 (fourteen years ago)

so i have a pattern going, i went 0/17 first day, 2/20 second day and 4/20 third day. so i should still have eight more that show up

Bee OK, Thursday, 2 February 2012 05:08 (fourteen years ago)

i'm moving over the next few days so i probably won't know the Top 20 until sometime next week

:-(

Bee OK, Thursday, 2 February 2012 05:09 (fourteen years ago)

i think you mean 6

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Thursday, 2 February 2012 05:09 (fourteen years ago)

If Tropical 2 cracks top 20 I will be ridiculously pleased and smug.

I've got your back on this one. I'm sure this is going to make it.

Willie Rosario Dawson (_Rudipherous_), Thursday, 2 February 2012 05:13 (fourteen years ago)

Was hoping that Future Islands would feature somewhere as it was my #2, but no way will it make top 20.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 2 February 2012 08:35 (fourteen years ago)

i voted future islands

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 08:42 (fourteen years ago)

woohoo
great to see araabmuzik and britney place, two excellent records

nathey, Thursday, 2 February 2012 09:45 (fourteen years ago)

i can't believe 'dreamchasers' hasn't placed. :'(

the emancipation of me-me (tpp), Thursday, 2 February 2012 09:53 (fourteen years ago)

Just chiming in on Colin Stetson. I never enjoy music if it's simply presented to me like a sport, i.e. technical skill over music and feel. But this is some evocative stuff and fairly accessible. I even like the spoken word stuff.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 10:55 (fourteen years ago)

I'd have liked to have seen Bangs & Works 2 place, but it won't happen.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 10:55 (fourteen years ago)

I'd have liked to have seen Bangs & Works 2 place, but it won't happen.

― Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 10:55 (52 minutes ago)

Yeah, I'm regretful about not including it. The Soul Jazz 'Invasion Of The Mysteron Killer Sounds' comps were pretty good too.

Yeah Yeah Bohney (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 2 February 2012 11:53 (fourteen years ago)

those (?? were there more than just one) were spectacular - set a sort of precedent for my listening throughout the year.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 11:56 (fourteen years ago)

Two on vinyl. Totally caned 'Streetsweeper' (Steely & Clevie) and 'Yoga Riddim' (Team Shadetek) through the summer.

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Invasion-Of-The-Mysteron-Killer-Sounds-Vol1/release/2971428

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 2 February 2012 12:01 (fourteen years ago)

Shamefully I am only just now hearing the Nguzunguzu. It is incredible! So happy right now.

Oh and I suppose I should 'fess up that I was the voter who had Frank Ocean as their #1. What can I say? It was the album I listened to most last year and it's high points ('songs for women', 'novacane', 'swim good') were among my favourite tracks of 2011. I also voted for the Girls record so I guess I don't like either 'real' indie OR 'real rnb' ;)

Don't you got some Jodeci?

pandemic, Thursday, 2 February 2012 12:08 (fourteen years ago)

They're highly unlikely to place now but I'm a little surprised and disappointed that Elzhi, Meek Mill, Young Bleed, and Los Campesinos! have all been shut out of the Top 77. On the other hand at least 20 records I've never heard of have made the list which gives me lots to listen to! :)

pandemic, Thursday, 2 February 2012 12:11 (fourteen years ago)

lol all these "rnb for people who dont like real rnb" and "indie for those who dont like real indie" arguments on this thread are exactly like dog latins "black metal for those who dont like tr00 black metal" posts upthread. Which is sadly like most metal boards on the internet.
I totally expect it from indie fans, its always existed in rock music, but rnb too????

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 12:12 (fourteen years ago)

I do like how Girls are too corny even for indie fuxx though.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 February 2012 12:33 (fourteen years ago)

where's the real messageboard?

nathey, Thursday, 2 February 2012 12:39 (fourteen years ago)

yeah but are they too corny for corny indie fuxx?
xp

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 12:44 (fourteen years ago)

lol all these "rnb for people who dont like real rnb" and "indie for those who dont like real indie" arguments on this thread are exactly like dog latins "black metal for those who dont like tr00 black metal" posts upthread. Which is sadly like most metal boards on the internet.
I totally expect it from indie fans, its always existed in rock music, but rnb too????

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 12:12 (40 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think my posts on this subject started getting lost in translation. There's nothing I hate more than the sort of snobbery and pedantry that Tr00 metal types bandy around ad nauseam. It was more an observation that because of the influence of Pitchfork (who are grounded in US-centric indie rock but go to some lengths to be perceived as eclectic), there's now a big central market territory for music that will make that crossover. So with Frank Ocean you have this guy who calls himself a singer-songwriter (not r'n'b, oh no no), who sings over Coldplay and Eagles songs and is associated with a controversial undie-rap crew: These are all points of reference which Pitchforky audiences can easily identify, regardless of whether his album is much better or worse than any other r'n'b artist. The problem here is that R'n'B fans are most likely sick of hearing "Oh I like R'n'B too - do you know Frank Ocean?" because it displays a limited palette and only a meek step outside the listener's initial comfort zone. So what's wrong with that? What's wrong with dipping one's toe in the water to see if you like it? Well nothing really, but it's also a bit of a cop-out. If you're going to check out a new style of music it could be argued that you have to accept the style warts'n'all. I think what initially attracted me to a lot of music I like is the sheer shock-of-the-new, the uncertainty, the mental acrobatics I had to perform to fit this new aesthetic into my worldview. Like, I didn't really enjoy Pantera or Metallica's Black album when I was played those as a teenager, but when I first heard, I dunno, Bal Sagoth it was like "This is hilarious and crazy and weird, and WTF???!".

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 13:31 (fourteen years ago)

Did anyone else dig the Kuedo record? I haven't seen much talk of it, but I thought it was beautiful--still lisetning to it a lot, actually.

Clarke B., Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:12 (fourteen years ago)

It was okay, but it didn't excite me as much as the hype made out I would.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:15 (fourteen years ago)

It seems like the middle stretch of this poll has gotten a bit samey. Too many hipster fetishist bands trying to recreate the same early-'80s post-punk-meets-disco moment. However, one nice thing is that my two best discoveries were both free downloads: Ngunguzungu and Death Grips.

o. nate, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:42 (fourteen years ago)

undie-rap

Ha.

skip, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:47 (fourteen years ago)

attn site mods: my flag post for dog latin was entirely in earnest please dont delete it

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:49 (fourteen years ago)

"Too many hipster fetishist bands trying to recreate the same early-'80s post-punk-meets-disco moment."

which ones are these?

Crackle Box, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:59 (fourteen years ago)

passive-aggressive much, Lamp?

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:07 (fourteen years ago)

I guess, without being too specific, the charge of hipster fetishism could apply in varying degrees to Holy Ghost!, Ford & Lopatin, Cut Copy, Hatchback, Junior Boys - even stuff like James Ferraro and Oneohtrix Point Never which seems like an arch throwback at times. Obv, not all are going for the specific sound I mentioned, but the fetishism puts me off.

o. nate, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:10 (fourteen years ago)

dog latin, I believe that is what is known in Internet speak as a 'LOL'

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:13 (fourteen years ago)

xpost I see o.nate's getting at, especially with regards to Junior Boys and Cut Copy, but I'd say the whole eighties-retro thing has now been absorbed so fully that it's become as much a part of today's musical landscape. It's increasingly difficult to tell where retro-fetishism ends and new ideas begin. Something like the Ford and Lopatin LP is unabashedly retro in its aesthetic, but the music couldn't have come from the eighties at all.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:17 (fourteen years ago)

2012 NEW ANSWERS

DO NOT CALL (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:18 (fourteen years ago)

Tell me when it hits 2112 and I'll rush back in.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:21 (fourteen years ago)

junior boys sounds like nothing from the 80s to me. i hear more steely dan etc in them than 80s synth music

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:22 (fourteen years ago)

ok i see what you're getting at there

ahh, so cool to see colin stetson getting some love on here! would love a thread of avant garde pop music

(but would never start one because "you can't call this stuff avant garde pop music, can you?" is where i bet the thread will go, blahhh)

Crackle Box, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:23 (fourteen years ago)

Save us...somebody!

two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:23 (fourteen years ago)

"you can't call this stuff avant garde pop music, can you?" should be the name of the thread

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:23 (fourteen years ago)

Tell me when it hits 2112 and I'll rush back in.

― EZ Snappin, Thursday, February 2, 2012 4:21 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh dear, oh dear.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:26 (fourteen years ago)

it was 2/1/12 yesterday!

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:28 (fourteen years ago)

Oh shit, was that why all the Rush was being played? I was 1/2/12 (they call me MC Blowfish) for us Brits.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:29 (fourteen years ago)

*IT was. I wasn't.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:29 (fourteen years ago)

next year we should all guess what the results of the poll will be
and the results of that poll, make the results of the poll

nathey, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

ez plays rush all the time though

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

every day is Rushgiving in my house.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

LoL @ 2nd of January 2012 being British National Rush Day

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

It's increasingly difficult to tell where retro-fetishism ends and new ideas begin

That's a fair point - unfortunately, in my case, when I'm checking something out and the first thing I hear is the same ubiquitous sequenced '80s synth sound I'm much less likely to put in the time to listen further to hear what else is going on.

o. nate, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

ilm loves the 80s

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:32 (fourteen years ago)

Oh so we've stopped handwringing about which bits of a genre you're allowed to like and we've got to the "indie friendly electrodribble" bit, then?

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

i'm just gonna hide in my corner now and keep listening to idm

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

Anyway, please ignore my griping. I'm just biding time until the top 20 rollout begins.

o. nate, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:38 (fourteen years ago)

It's increasingly difficult to tell where retro-fetishism ends and new ideas begin

no it's not

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

If J0rdan doesn't show up soon, maybe we can just have a show of hands for the other places.

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

Bon Iver anyone?

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

my hand is up

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

One vote for Bon Iver.

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

It's increasingly difficult to tell where retro-fetishism ends and new ideas begin

it's increasingly difficult for me to care about how many new ideas something has

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

matt dc i havent said that once this year if youre aiming that at me

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not aiming at you, just pointing out the cyclical nature of these things.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

has it ever happened that the #1 P4k album just hasn't appeared in the countdown?

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

no because i always vote for it on 12 socks

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:45 (fourteen years ago)

*shakes 12 fist*

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:47 (fourteen years ago)

alright

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/UlSPb.jpg

20. Bon Iver — Bon Iver (512 points, 15 votes)

P4K: 1
P&J: 9

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J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

prescient.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:52 (fourteen years ago)

Bon Iver

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:52 (fourteen years ago)

timing

nathey, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

is

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

everything

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

sockpuppets

nathey, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

I think I might like this bon iver album if I actually listened to it. Maybe I will do so now?

I chipped a tooth on the buttbone (askance johnson), Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

i love this record and i'm not ashamed to say it

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:54 (fourteen years ago)

my biggest problem with bon iver is that its not boring enough.

like as soon as he finds a nice mellow vibe he fucks it all up by doing something complicated and technical.

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:55 (fourteen years ago)

i want to send him every red house painters cd

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:55 (fourteen years ago)

I think I might like this bon iver album if I actually listened to it. Maybe I will do so now?

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

Next.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:57 (fourteen years ago)

i like bon iver. it's like the pretty impressionist landscape of music.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:01 (fourteen years ago)

i can see grady's point, but i totally love that album. it's really warm.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/7cPF9.jpg

19. Peaking Lights — 936 (514 points, 17 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 106

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J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

yeah! peaking lights!
amazing album

nathey, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

hurrah!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

i've been surprised how low this has come on other polls, so good to see it place high here

nathey, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

what is this

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

Still need to hear that Peaking Lights, I think it sounds right up my alley.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

I was actually surprised at how well Peaking Lights did in other polls. Don't really see what the fuss is about

Number None, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:06 (fourteen years ago)

yay! my #5! Was hoping for top 10, but still glad to see it place

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:07 (fourteen years ago)

Wish I could have liked that album, lord knows I tried, but the tunes themselves were really annoying. Sorry guys :(

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:07 (fourteen years ago)

Love that Peaking Lights record.

also, fyi, bon iver is very annoying.

I chipped a tooth on the buttbone (askance johnson), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:09 (fourteen years ago)

what is a peaking lights?

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:10 (fourteen years ago)

it sounds kind of like stereolab made it someone's basement? idk.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

they put the dub into double act

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/sep/20/new-band-peaking-lights

Crackle Box, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

they were written up on altered zones--does that help?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

trippy dub headmusic, it's awesome!

http://youtu.be/MH-9_ddFKk8

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

i'm listening to "amazing & wonderful" by peaking lights and while i like the surf guitary thing that underpins it, i think i might have more time for it if it hadn't been recorded from inside a drainpipe

i see a damu remix of it on their soundcloud though! damu is excellent and i'm sad that his album didn't place. not that it made my ballot. "ridin" deserved to be on the trax poll though

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:12 (fourteen years ago)

count me in the IDGI or "what's the fuss" crowd when it comes to Peaking Lights. Prob need to give them another go, but it reminded me of generic chillwave stuff IIRC?

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:12 (fourteen years ago)

so help me god i'm never going to listen to another band described as lo-fi again

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:12 (fourteen years ago)

ha it is very drainpipe-y!

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:13 (fourteen years ago)

Lex - that Damu album is excellent apart from the bits where the guy starts rapping really lamely. Other than that it's a decent contender to Glass Swords.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:13 (fourteen years ago)

tbf, they're far better than 90% of what was ever written about on Altered Zones.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:13 (fourteen years ago)

damning with faint praise

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

i really think there's a young marble giants influence
even if the two genres are radically different

nathey, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

yikes

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

(I voted for this, though...so I'm not damning anything!)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

this woman is a horrible singer btw

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

this damu remix is great actually http://soundcloud.com/peakinglights/amazing-wonderful-damu-remix

damu's own best moment that i perhaps should have repped for harder http://soundcloud.com/freekschroder/damu-ridin

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

obviously the reverb and haze is what lends the album its awesome psychedelic pop-art mystique.

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

generic chillwave stuff

smooth rong imo

more than anything I get a 'early 90s dubby Too Pure Records band' vibe from it - Laika, Moonshake and what have you

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:16 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/M3l4V.jpg

18. Nicolas Jaar — Space is Only Noise (517 points, 19 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: 20
P&J: 66

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J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:17 (fourteen years ago)

so help me god i'm never going to listen to another band described as lo-fi again

Seconded!

Clarke B., Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:18 (fourteen years ago)

they don't sound like em exactly but if they'd been around 18, 20 years ago they'd get talked about in the same breath xp to self

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:18 (fourteen years ago)

all my top picks are showing up in this recent clump now

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:18 (fourteen years ago)

Ah cool, glad this made it in. Although would've been weird if it hadn't.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:18 (fourteen years ago)

early 90s dubby Too Pure Records band' vibe from it - Laika, Moonshake and what have you

^ yeah, this

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:18 (fourteen years ago)

totally

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:19 (fourteen years ago)

I only voted Space Is Only Noise at number 16, even though Jaar seemed like he was going to take over the world at the beginning of the year. This is an interesting record in that it's a house album that's about as far removed from house as it gets - it's more of a jazz record really...

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:20 (fourteen years ago)

Elements of kosmische and dub, Peaking Lights is a very nice album. I just wish the recording quality was as good as most of those 70s German space rock albums. I guess they had access to some sweet studios back then.

Bon Iver is pleasant, though I'm mystified by claims of greatness.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:22 (fourteen years ago)

Struggled to get a hold on that Jaar LP to be honest. I listened to it the other day and some of it sounded great though. Feels like too much hard work to me though.

AnotherDeadHero, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:22 (fourteen years ago)

"too much hard work" is a good description of both of the last two albums.

skip, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:25 (fourteen years ago)

i love peaking lights in the same way i love forest swords.

(also i only realized they lived two blocks away from me when they moved away)

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:25 (fourteen years ago)

i think nicolas jaar is a genius and i am in awe of the self-contained worlds he creates and i love a few tracks on his album but tbh if i was doing a nico jaar POX i would only include maybe one track off it - i think he's done way better stuff that's not on it

indeed here it is

jaar pox

wouh
a time for us
love you gotta lose again
marks
the bees - winter rose (nicolas jaar remix)
ellen allien - flashy flashy (nicolas jaar remix)
russian dolls
el bandido
space is only noise if you can see
no regular play - owe me (nicolas jaar remix)

― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, January 11, 2012 11:48 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:26 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/ISJru.jpg

17. M83 — Hurry Up We’re Dreaming (519 points, 21 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: 3
P&J: 19

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J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

(i did not vote for it - i wouldn't say it was a disappointment as such, it does what it does very well, but i don't think its slightness is the best representation of his talents - far too many stretches where not enough happens on the album)

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

oh it's fucking better than m83 though

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:28 (fourteen years ago)

I liked this, but it did not need to be a double album.

monster_xero, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:30 (fourteen years ago)

at least m83 didn't place top ten like a few were predicting. i've tried and have little time for this stuff. it's like looking at one of those horrible posterised prints you see in printshops and Arena-type shops.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:30 (fourteen years ago)

Voted for Jaar and Bon Iver. I've come to relish how unfashionable liking Bon Iver is on ILX.

To paraphrase Fastnbulbous, Peaking Lights is pleasant, though I'm mystified by claims of greatness.

M83 is as absurdly overweight as any double album in recent years.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:31 (fourteen years ago)

i couldn't really get a hold on that jaar

amazed peaking lights placed this high - i liked the album (didn't vote for it here) but wasn't aware it got that much critical attention?

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:31 (fourteen years ago)

Loved 'Midnight City', but a little goes a long way with this mob.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:31 (fourteen years ago)

i just dont get nicholas jaar

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

Thank's for the Jaar primer lex. I've been meaning to dig deeper. I've heard some pretty knowledgeable people utter big statements about the kid.

AnotherDeadHero, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

Could never get into matey3, down with this sort of thing.

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:33 (fourteen years ago)

i had to listen to this m83 album a good 8-10 times before realizing i didn't like. i guess that means something

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:33 (fourteen years ago)

i talked to nico jaar yesterday, coincidentally, about some fairly exciting things that i should probably decide who to pitch to

he has covered leonard cohen's "avalanche" on his next release!!!

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:33 (fourteen years ago)

The M83 is spotty as hell, but some really great songs bring up the average.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:33 (fourteen years ago)

also re: m83 i think its kinda artless to take a successful album (saturdays=youth) and simply turn it into a double album

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:35 (fourteen years ago)

A few of those tracks on m83 are good for ipod shuffle. Just don't listen to them that often.

skip, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:35 (fourteen years ago)

I've been a fan of M83 but could not get into the album. Too much at once. What are yalls favorite tracks?

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:37 (fourteen years ago)

M83 is ok but I happened to randomly listen to 'Dead Cities, Red Seas & Lost Ghosts' the other day and it really was immense.

AnotherDeadHero, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:38 (fourteen years ago)

it took me a long time to get into Peaking Lights tbh; I was expecting something more along the lines of the last Pocahaunted album (which I also loved) but this sounds almost like what I would expect a Kranky album to sound like. When I started listening to Belong's Common Era (and got some decent headphones) is when it really started to click...

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:39 (fourteen years ago)

also lost a lot of respect for m83 after this interview http://pitchfork.com/features/interviews/8680-m83/

When I go out to see a show now, I want to be blown away, even if I don't like the music. If you watch a band like Depeche Mode, their connection with the audience is just magical. You're not going to see that if you go see Emeralds; I wish Emeralds could be as big as them, but it's a different league. And I don't like people spitting on bigger bands just because they have success or because it's not trendy to listen to the Killers. They have 15,000 people at their shows every night, and they're living the dream.

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:40 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/30Lj4.jpg

16. Boy Better Know — Tropical 2 (548 points, 15 votes, 4 first place votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 879

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J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:41 (fourteen years ago)

What are yalls favorite tracks?

Midnight City
Claudia Lewis
OK Pal
Reunion
New Map

xp: okay lol, that quote makes me like dude more because no one is more overrated than Emeralds

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:42 (fourteen years ago)

The problem here is that R'n'B fans are most likely sick of hearing "Oh I like R'n'B too - do you know Frank Ocean?" because it displays a limited palette and only a meek step outside the listener's initial comfort zone. So what's wrong with that? What's wrong with dipping one's toe in the water to see if you like it? Well nothing really, but it's also a bit of a cop-out. If you're going to check out a new style of music it could be argued that you have to accept the style warts'n'all. I think what initially attracted me to a lot of music I like is the sheer shock-of-the-new, the uncertainty, the mental acrobatics I had to perform to fit this new aesthetic into my worldview. Like, I didn't really enjoy Pantera or Metallica's Black album when I was played those as a teenager, but when I first heard, I dunno, Bal Sagoth it was like "This is hilarious and crazy and weird, and WTF???!".

- dog latin

water under the bridge and all, but i just can't get on board w/ this. accepting an unfamiliar genre "warts'n'all" isn't morally or intellectually superior to just glomming onto things because they happen to impinge on your existing interests in ways you enjoy. i like the frank ocean album as pop music, in the same way that i like ghost and lady gaga, without making any accompanying claims about "getting into R&B" or w/e. it sounds good when it goes in my ears. and yeah, there's no big stretch required, no shock of the new. i don't have to adjust my aesthetic tolerances to get it, but so what? not everything has to cause some kind of transformational rupture.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:42 (fourteen years ago)

I totally need to listen to this

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:43 (fourteen years ago)

such an incredible listening experience

was either my #1 or #2 i dont' recall

uberweiss, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

don't

uberweiss, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

i quite enjoy emeralds but thats not exactly what i find objectionable with the quote, mostly that he seems to equate the size of the crowd with the success of the art xxp

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

xposts for days
maybe Peaking Lights aren't "great" but sometimes it's nice to find an album that really nails a sound you like (dubby, echo heavy, tape-compressed, stoned jams). I always wanted to like chillwave (?) stuff like Sun Araw more than I did and PL worked for me by being more groove-based and grounded.

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

yay tropical 2, my third vote to show up

i don't wanna post any youtubes because the best track is royal-t's "cool down" but its huge glorious impact is how it just drops into the middle of the mix BLAM

i wish i'd gotten more time in the summer with this but the UK's indian summer helped a lot

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

One warning on Tropical 2: I'd say that the first track is basically just a warm-up. It doesn't get that interesting until the second track, at which point it gets very very interesting. And if the second track does nothing for you, there might not be much point going on.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

and people were mocking the wild flag album cover

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:46 (fourteen years ago)

i quite enjoy emeralds but thats not exactly what i find objectionable with the quote, mostly that he seems to equate the size of the crowd with the success of the art

Those seem to me to be two very distinct thoughts:

thought A: I like bands that connect with their audience (DM vs Emeralds)
thought B: It's too bad that some people equate being popular with being bad (Killers)

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:46 (fourteen years ago)

I'm just imagining if I had tried listening to the whole album starting with the first track. If I were just skimming it, I might easily have said that this was not for me. Fortunately, I heard a few individual cuts which whet my appetite.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:47 (fourteen years ago)

Voted for Nicolas Jaar and Peaking Lights...

Comparing Peaking Lights to Forest Swords feels otm for me...PL is very much of a tropical-swamp-dub genre with Sun Araw and half the NNF roster, I just thought they did it much better than anyone else this year. For me it's a very warm album.

The Jaar album initially felt like a letdown after singles like Wouh, but I surprised myself by coming back to it over and over again and discovering new layers each time.

M83 initially felt like a letdown and it still does. Can't hack it at all, and I adore Saturdays=Youth.

Tropical 2 is great, though I didn't vote for it.

two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:47 (fourteen years ago)

19. Peaking Lights — 936 (514 points, 17 votes)

loved previous peaking lights releases, and liked this one well enough (not well enough to vote for), but for me, something crucial got lost in the transition from scrapy/scratchy, vaguely punkish psych-noise to planed-out too pure spa music. i go back to imaginary falcons and space primitive all the time, but the shine wore off 936 real fast.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:47 (fourteen years ago)

yeah I just realized that Peaking Lights had other albums tbh; I shd check those out

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:49 (fourteen years ago)

I don't equate being popular with being bad, I do associate being the Killers with being bad.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:49 (fourteen years ago)

"Somebody Told Me" is a jam, it's kind of a shame about the rest of their songs tho

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

Contenderizer - yes, agree there are no rules as to how one should approach new music. What I was writing was more an observation comparing territorial attitudes and crossovers, although I try not to give into the kind of purism denoted in the post, it's undeniable that this goes on. It boils down to quality I guess, and I guess it's like a connoisseur of wine or cheese despairing when people latch onto poor quality but more accessible brands. People will always like Kraft dairy slices even if they're aware that much better cheeses exist. Anyway, I don't really wanna let this debate run on, so...

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

xxp my thoughts exactly

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/9AMS5.jpg

15. Rustie — Glass Swords (557 points, 18 votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 113

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J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:52 (fourteen years ago)

From what you are all describing, Peaking Lights sounds like the best thing ever. I'll give it another go.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:52 (fourteen years ago)

xps - Yeah I really need to check out the previous Peaking Lights releases. Also their remix of "I Surrender" was my favourite thing to come of of the Ford and Lopatin project this year.

two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:53 (fourteen years ago)

Peaking Lights and Rustie seems to have taken the place of OPN/Emeralds. Hmmm. Hecker still has a shot at #1

also: no Uncle Acid :(

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:54 (fourteen years ago)

glass swords as a whole still hasn't 'hit me' as it were, but there are some real jams on that esp. 'after light'

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

another of my votes! rustie album was so banging. such a good wake-up call in the morning - i was covering the party conferences when it came out and it made me rave in some very inappropriate places - and of course ctually raving to it in a club was the BEST

surph - AND U KNOW I WANNA RIIIDE OUUUUUUT
hover traps

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:55 (fourteen years ago)

that rustie album is too much

jabba hands, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:56 (fourteen years ago)

I think I might like this bon iver album if I actually listened to it. Maybe I will do so now?

― I chipped a tooth on the buttbone (askance johnson), Thursday, February 2, 2012 8:54 AM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tried this with bon iver and fleet foxes when they came out, as a sort of self-challenging experiment (like listening to bal-sagoth in 1993). found that they were both pleasant enough while they lasted, bon iver moreso, but that they inspired no strong feelings of any sort and i couldn't remember anything about them once they were over. that was enough for me.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:56 (fourteen years ago)

Oh boy, finally something I voted for.

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

Peaking Lights and Rustie seems to have taken the place of OPN/Emeralds

not sure what you mean

Number None, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

i am required to like the killers because their drummer is my 1000% terrifying level doppelganger. like i want them to become beatles famous so i can make money standing around and doing very little.

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:58 (fourteen years ago)

Isn't that what you do at the store now?

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:58 (fourteen years ago)

I reckon that Tim Hecker will appear in round about the same place as Emeralds and OPN did last year or maybe just a bit higher.

― Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Tuesday, January 31, 2012 11:29 AM (2 days ago)

OPN/Emeralds placed in the 15-20 range last year iirc...

(xp)

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:58 (fourteen years ago)

xp
you should start giving controversial interviews as that guy to make it happen

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

oh right

Number None, Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

Glass Swords sounded so triumphant without being smug at all, very Daft Punk in that way I thought.

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2012 17:59 (fourteen years ago)

he seems to be getting bloated these days on his rock and roll lifestyle so i guess i need to start retaining more water in my face

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:03 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/PQMuc.jpg

14. Kurt Vile — Smoke Ring For My Halo (572 points, 16 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: 16
P&J: 20

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J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:03 (fourteen years ago)

that's the last one for like 20 mins or so, i'm gonna go run out and pick up some food

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:03 (fourteen years ago)

my #2 soooooo goooooood. made me pick up the acoustic guitar again <3

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:03 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i like this one a lot

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:04 (fourteen years ago)

Don't know what Tropical 2 is.. The Rustie album's great fun but I found it didn't last too long in terms of replay value. Think this'll be one to keep handy for DJ sets more than home listening.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:04 (fourteen years ago)

runner ups ended up being my favorite song on this one. love the noise just slightly bubbling up from the background shhhhyyeeaaahhh

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:05 (fourteen years ago)

dl, there's a very good chance you would love Tropical 2

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:08 (fourteen years ago)

The Ineffable Beauty of Tropical 2 is the ILx thread, DL. V.v.happy to see this place!

etc, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:13 (fourteen years ago)

nice placing for smoke ring

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:15 (fourteen years ago)

Apart from Society Is My Friend, I found Kurt Vile really rather bland and neutral. Maybe it's better heard in the context of his other work?

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:16 (fourteen years ago)

cool to see smoke ring beat bon iver

"runner ups" on that is so dope

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:20 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/zD6M1.jpg

13. Julianna Barwick — The Magic Place (583 points, 19 votes, two first place votes)

P4K: 24
P&J: 86

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J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:20 (fourteen years ago)

Hallelujah, my number one iirc.

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:22 (fourteen years ago)

fuck yeah

omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:22 (fourteen years ago)

whoa

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:23 (fourteen years ago)

i have never heard of her! tell me about this music

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:24 (fourteen years ago)

Great album! Not quite my favourite Barwick material, but close.

two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:24 (fourteen years ago)

lex, maybe try "Prizewinning": http://youtu.be/jW-nKlgrK7I

two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:26 (fourteen years ago)

lex it's kinda like...ambient music made entirely from her voice looped and processed

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:26 (fourteen years ago)

It boils down to quality I guess, and I guess it's like a connoisseur of wine or cheese despairing when people latch onto poor quality but more accessible brands. People will always like Kraft dairy slices even if they're aware that much better cheeses exist.

― Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, February 2, 2012 9:51 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i know you don't wanna have this debate, but the connoisseur's view you're articulating is common on ILX, and it always bugs me - no slam intended. it's come up repeatedly ITT, with regard to liturgy, girls and real estate (false indie lol), colin stetson, frank ocean, and others.

craigo boingo made an excellent point upthread, during the discussion of that colin stetson album: it probably does seems shitty if you insist on viewing it as wannabe jazz, but it's nonetheless a great post-rock album. would say the same of frank ocean: R&B heads might view it as a watered-down version of something superior in its pure form, but when viewed from outside that context, it's a phenomenally successful and satisfying hybrid of R&B, pop, rock and indie elements. imo.

perspective is what makes the difference, and that has more to do with how we categorize music (and ourselves as listeners) than it does with inherent quality. like, i'm sure that girls fans get something real and substantial out of that album, and it's probably not just because they don't know from "real indie" and are therefore easily duped by processed slices.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:26 (fourteen years ago)

R<Lex, it's really immense looped vocal pieces, that have this very spectral, early morning choral feel.

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:28 (fourteen years ago)

fwiw, my all-time JB song - the one that initially blew me away a few years back - is Cloudbank from Florine.

two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:29 (fourteen years ago)

holy shit! completely counted that out! awesome!

(this was one of the last things cut from my ballot)

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:29 (fourteen years ago)

Haven't heard that Barwick record, sounds pretty interesting though, so will check it out.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:30 (fourteen years ago)

wow, i was sure JB wasn't gonna turn up! gorgeous album.

jabba hands, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:30 (fourteen years ago)

Never heard of Barwick. I like the way it sounds, but I feel I would have to go to some kind of special college and study intensely for many months in order to understand how to listen to this correctly.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:30 (fourteen years ago)

xp re ongoing true/false debate: it seems pretty obvious to me that genre hybridisation is orthogonal to "watering-down". Music that crosses genres A and B may be more accessible to a fan of B than something that is "true A" without losing any of its complexity and quality.

two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:31 (fourteen years ago)

From that description of Barwick I'm imagining somewhere between Imogen Heap and AGF.

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:31 (fourteen years ago)

oh wow i am kind of feeling "prizewinning" a lot

i wonder how you guys would feel about fatima al qadiri/ayshay? she's who i thought of when i read "lex it's kinda like...ambient music made entirely from her voice looped and processed" -

on ayshay's warn-u ep she reinterpreted some traditional islamic chants/anthems in that manner

http://youtu.be/AJobaxZqy18
http://youtu.be/4AvDiYDMRz8

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:32 (fourteen years ago)

xp i think if you like the way it sounds you're listening to it correctly already. nothing academic about it really

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:32 (fourteen years ago)

Love love love the Barwick album, great to see it place so high. Is Tim Hecker going to be top ten?!

toby, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:32 (fourteen years ago)

Barwick's collaboration with Ikue Mori on FRKWYS is also well worth checking out, really really good stuff.

two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, she's just jamming on loops basically, nothing amazingly clever, but such a fantastic sound. xxp

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

fatima al qadiri? seandalai you are a fan of hers, right?

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

I like the way it sounds, but I feel I would have to go to some kind of special college and study intensely for many months in order to understand how to listen to this correctly.

see, this is how i felt about julia holter - i'm finding barwick quite immediate though, the ebbs and flows of the sound make "sense" to me

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

but I feel I would have to go to some kind of special college and study intensely for many months in order to understand how to listen to this correctly.

Early morning on a weekend in a quiet house works for me.

toby, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

the drums on prizewinning are kinda jarring to me though

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:33 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah I love the Fatima Al Qadiri EP, haven't got round to spending much time with the Ayshay material yet though.

two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:34 (fourteen years ago)

on "prizewinning" it's like the two vocal lines are singing in rounds - one descending as the other ascends

oh man the percussion has just come in!!!! i am SOLD

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:34 (fourteen years ago)

i'm behind but i think this nicolas jaar record is the weirdest thing i've heard from the countdown? like i have no idea what this music is for.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:36 (fourteen years ago)

it's for me

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:36 (fourteen years ago)

it's you, it's you, it's all for you

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:36 (fourteen years ago)

Contender/Sean: taking this cheese analogy a bit further, if someone were to scoff at me whenever I put some Lego cheese slices in my burger, I'd be like 'fuck offs cunto!'. On the other hand if I was in the super market and saw
Babybels all wrapped up in rustic
Packaging and then people started telling me how amazing these things were, I'd prob want a bit of clarity on that.
fancy packaging

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:37 (fourteen years ago)

Vow is another great track on the Magic Place:

http://youtu.be/6JkSVvMn5Sc

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:37 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/eLOVp.jpg

12. EMA — Past Life Martyred Saints (590 points, 18 votes, two first place votes)

P4K: 13
P&J: 15

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J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:38 (fourteen years ago)

Not sure this is going anywhere, but I don't buy your implication that crossover or even hipster representatives of a genre are automatically Babybel. They may be that, but they might also be really cool variants that haven't been tried before.

two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:40 (fourteen years ago)

lex, maybe try "Prizewinning": http://youtu.be/jW-nKlgrK7I

currently listening to this, as i'd never heard JB before. reminds me in different ways of things i like quite a bit (o paon/woelv, grouper and the knife, for instance) but i'm finding it more lovely than compelling, at least on the first pass. suppose i need to hear the whole album...

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:40 (fourteen years ago)

The Kurt Vile album reminds me a lot of latter-day Dylan's backing band with a little more electric guitar drone. There are so many clean, open chords as well as a lot of crunchy dissonances and great resolutions. "Puppet to the Man" is probably my favorite - the vocals are in that space between speaking and singing and sit in the middle of this sea of parallel-sounding lines that aren't actually moving in parallel. At the core it's still a droney vibe record, which can understandably turn people off, but I appreciated the songs and the subtle instrumental touches.

skip, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:40 (fourteen years ago)

"more lovely than compelling" is a succinct summation of my feelings tbh xp

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

woelv, grouper

Ok, gotta hear this now

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

As someone who finds lovely stuff compelling I'm getting increasingly excitable.

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:41 (fourteen years ago)

it's really immense looped vocal pieces, that have this very spectral, early morning choral feel.

that is a great description. it's sort of like grand church music if churches were all outdoors

also, I just listened to the Nguzunguzu remix of that Ayshay EP and O_O

xp, the drums coming in on Prizewinning is the BEST

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:42 (fourteen years ago)

i like the frank ocean album as pop music, in the same way that i like ghost and lady gaga, without making any accompanying claims about "getting into R&B" or w/e. it sounds good when it goes in my ears.

Feeling this post.

jaymc, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:42 (fourteen years ago)

nicholas jaar is for the children

(and seems way less 'weird' than a lot of music on this poll)

xp

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:42 (fourteen years ago)

The "more lovely than compelling" crew might prefer the FRKWYS release (e.g. http://youtu.be/43dvViC_IHA to pick a random track)...going back to one of my more overused adjectives of the past year, it's a lot "knottier" than The Magic Place.

two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:43 (fourteen years ago)

I don't buy your implication that crossover or even hipster representatives of a genre are automatically Babybel. They may be that, but they might also be really cool variants that haven't been tried before.

― two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, February 2, 2012 10:40 AM (15 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

exactly, and the loud insistence of troo heads that crossover/hipster shit = babybel is inevitable and usually meaningless

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:44 (fourteen years ago)

yeah to be serious, parts of the jaar album almost feel like an IDM record 10-15 years out of time. the vocals are weird and kind of obscure this but that's the vibe i get from it

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:45 (fourteen years ago)

Hm. I didn't expect to be so not-central. 6/25 have placed thus far, but only Nguzunguzu out of my top 10 and EMA out of my top 15.

(Not that I deserve having my votes place or anything, just that I tend to find myself in the bland centre of overlapping ILX tastes.)

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:45 (fourteen years ago)

Maybe only two others I'd expect to place now that we're up this far.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:45 (fourteen years ago)

I'm p bummed about Blood Lust tbh

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:46 (fourteen years ago)

I hated that EMA record; the "California" song/video combo irritates me in such an acute and specific way. I've got no time for this hip poet shit anymore. Oooh, she opened the song with "fuck"! She made her fingers into guns! It's like the lamest parts certain strains of '90s alterna-garbage.

Clarke B., Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

i like the frank ocean album as pop music, in the same way that i like ghost and lady gaga, without making any accompanying claims about "getting into R&B" or w/e. it sounds good when it goes in my ears.

the crux is that a lot of people seemed totally more willing to put frank ocean in their ears than a lot of r&b singers who didn't have the same DIY-tumblr-promotion-strategy or indieblog/indiecrit backing. that's all. i don't intend to get into this argument on this thread again though

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

Drugs B. Wrongey?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:48 (fourteen years ago)

ok lol

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:49 (fourteen years ago)

not sure what to listen to off this nicholas jaar thing, so i just called up "colomb". gorgeous and spooky. love the organ tone, handclaps, ghostly vocal. wow. something almost grotesquely intimate about it. any other recommendations?

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:49 (fourteen years ago)

Wow, three in a row from my ballet.

monster_xero, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:49 (fourteen years ago)

xp "keep me there" is my favorite track i think

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:50 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not giving up. I will just fool myself into thinking WOW ITS #1 after #2 is posted

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:50 (fourteen years ago)

contenderizer:

jaar pox

wouh
a time for us
love you gotta lose again
marks
the bees - winter rose (nicolas jaar remix)
ellen allien - flashy flashy (nicolas jaar remix)
russian dolls
el bandido
space is only noise if you can see
no regular play - owe me (nicolas jaar remix)

― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, January 11, 2012 11:48 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:50 (fourteen years ago)

some dope albums placing this morning, would have voted for peaking lights, tropical 2 and rustie. lex's diagnosis re: the jaar album otm, way too sparse and not dancey enough. he still released a lot of my favourite music of the year

re: peaking lights i think contenderizer arguing their previous material is better is way off the money. 936 is really incredible and a huge step above their previous work. despite being still maybe somewhat lo-fi by some people's standards it's not murky at all and feels really well mastered. i still don't think people like call all destroyer would be into it, but it shouldn't be dismissed as lo-fi. despite their really minimal set-up the amount of space the music occupies and the dynamics existing within it is really magical. all the warbly, drifting beams of sound feel so lovingly crafted, and the uncrowded arrangement puts the focus on them. it's a really psychedelic bliss out kind of album. the mood is really sumptuous and romantic and joyful, but also cut with a little bit miserable and bleak

flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:50 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/ep6mx.jpg

11. Tim Hecker — Ravedeath, 1972 (597 points, 21 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: 30
P&J: 36

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J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

!!!

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:51 (fourteen years ago)

great record

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:52 (fourteen years ago)

Whoa... Barwick placing so high is fantastic!

xp Hecker hurray!

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:53 (fourteen years ago)

There's a lot of ambient/experimental music this year Innit? Like the fact most of it is more interesting than some cunt on a laptop.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:54 (fourteen years ago)

the crux is that a lot of people seemed totally more willing to put frank ocean in their ears than a lot of r&b singers who didn't have the same DIY-tumblr-promotion-strategy or indieblog/indiecrit backing. that's all. i don't intend to get into this argument on this thread again though

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, February 2, 2012 10:48 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's cool lex, you don't haveta argue if you don't wanna. me, i think it's obvious why frank ocean appeals to indie and rock types, and it's not just critical backing. he's drawing on rock and indie in ways that make sense when viewed from a rock/indie perspective. i.e., his aesthetic and choices work extremely well in that context. that's a good thing, imo, though i can see why people with different interests might not be able to relate.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:54 (fourteen years ago)

good record

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:54 (fourteen years ago)

Yeay, my #10. Superb record, 'The Piano Drop' is such a massive opener.

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:55 (fourteen years ago)

<3 that Hecker cover

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:55 (fourteen years ago)

list does feel a lil more avant garde than usual

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:55 (fourteen years ago)

hurrah

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:56 (fourteen years ago)

just put 'no drums' on a mix and added (duh) tons of drums

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:57 (fourteen years ago)

re: peaking lights i think contenderizer arguing their previous material is better is way off the money.

oh, hey, i'm not saying that the early stuff is better. lots of folks seem to sincerely love 936, so it's obviously working. i just dug the noise set off the hooks in the older, more legitimately lofi stuff. personal preference, nothing to do with quality.

plus i often have a had time adapting to changes in a beloved artist's sound in real time. usually takes me a year or two to get with the program.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:58 (fourteen years ago)

thx for the jaar list, lex

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 18:58 (fourteen years ago)

i never listen to it but whenever i do listen to jaar, i think, hmm, this is very clever & creative

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:03 (fourteen years ago)

12. EMA — Past Life Martyred Saints (590 points, 18 votes, two first place votes)

love this record, especially the first half (side, lol). clarke b sneering at "hip poet shit" offtfm. sure, that's in there, but she does a wonderful job of communicating history and emotional perspective, both in her language and in her music. she wrings a hell of a lot of depth and specificity out of materials that initially seem quite abstract and distanced. my favorite storytelling album of the year (though again, that's mostly limited to side 1).

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:03 (fourteen years ago)

No one cares but

20. Bon Iver: voted for!
19: Peaking Lights: never heard of
18: Nicolas Jaar: listened to once months ago
17: M83: voted for!
16: Boy Better Know: never heard of (vaguely recall seeing the ILM thread, but never clicked on it)
15: Rustie: never heard of
14: Kurt Vile: heard of, never actually listened
13: Julianna Barwick: have heard some of her stuff, don't recall if it was this album or another
12: EMA: listened to once recently
11: Tim Hecker: like Harmony in Ultraviolet but haven't heard anything else by him

jaymc, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

i never listen to it but whenever i do listen to jaar, i think, hmm, this is very clever & creative

― #YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Thursday, February 2, 2012 2:03 PM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"the eighth most interesting house producer in the world"

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

Oh, yay, Hecker. I was starting to think it wouldn't make it.

'Prizewinning' is lovely, sonically, if a little new age? Will have to listen to more of the album to get more of a feel if it does anything else (I know, it's ambient, I'm missing the point, but... I'd like it if she tried a few other things along with it).

And HOLY SHIT LEX, that Ayshay track is gorgeous. I love it I love it.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:05 (fourteen years ago)

there's also a big list of jaar singles in the OP of his ilm thread

Nicolas Jaar: I was a Teenage Villalobos

flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:05 (fourteen years ago)

that whole ayshay release on tri-angle is beautiful

Dan S, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:06 (fourteen years ago)

einh

flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:06 (fourteen years ago)

jaymc, you just might like rustie?

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:07 (fourteen years ago)

fwiw the rustie thread was Rustie - Glass Swords

xps finally an emil.y/lex mindmeld! i fully recommend the warn-u ep, which is all based around that same concept. i also love her genre-specific xperience ep (as fatima al qadiri) - not the same at all though, more her takes on hip-hop, electro-tropicalia, dubstep, juke etc

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:07 (fourteen years ago)

"surph" off that rustie is really great

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:07 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/vrTEY.jpg

10. tUnE-yArDs — w h o k i l l (666 points, 20 votes, two first place votes)

P4K: 7
P&J: 1

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J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:08 (fourteen years ago)

xp
the videos from Genre-Specific are pretty amazing/creepy/haunting

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

666

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

the devil's music

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

love this record, especially the first half (side, lol). clarke b sneering at "hip poet shit" offtfm. sure, that's in there, but she does a wonderful job of communicating history and emotional perspective, both in her language and in her music. she wrings a hell of a lot of depth and specificity out of materials that initially seem quite abstract and distanced. my favorite storytelling album of the year (though again, that's mostly limited to side 1).

I just have a really low threshold of tolerance for such intense emotional expression in songwriter-driven music, I think. It chafes...

I like the Ayshay EP on Tri-Angle, and to tie it to an earlier ranked record, the Nguzunguzu "master mix" that takes up the entirety of side B is sick!

Clarke B., Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:10 (fourteen years ago)

Glad Hecker made it. Seeing him play an organ concert next Monday, looking forward to it a lot. His other album last year (Dropped Pianos, the demos for this) is also great.

toby, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:10 (fourteen years ago)

jaymc, you just might like rustie?

OK, I'm a minute into "Surph," and this is indeed pretty awesome.

jaymc, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:10 (fourteen years ago)

fyi: fatima al qadiri ILM edition, (+ ayshay)

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:10 (fourteen years ago)

i think you might also like peaking lights btw\
xpost to jaymc

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

i fully recommend the warn-u ep, which is all based around that same concept. i also love her genre-specific xperience ep (as fatima al qadiri) - not the same at all though, more her takes on hip-hop, electro-tropicalia, dubstep, juke etc

Cool! I'd seen the name Fatima Al Qadiri around, but not looked at the thread properly. Will definitely check it out. Right now I'm gonna go listen to 'Warn-U' again.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:11 (fourteen years ago)

ha.

i really like the whole rustie record but 'after light' is the cut.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:13 (fourteen years ago)

i think you might also like peaking lights btw\

I actually just listened to the album on Grooveshark (the reference to Stereolab piqued my interest). It was v. pleasant but didn't excite me all that much. Possibly a grower, though.

jaymc, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:13 (fourteen years ago)

fwiw, 936 was definitely a warmer weather album for me, particularly loved it while driving from Chicago to Oregon in August

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:14 (fourteen years ago)

the videos from Genre-Specific are pretty amazing/creepy/haunting

the vatican vibes one is pretty witty too - catholicism as video game! with rules and levels and obscure references to eg epiclesis!

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

i just listened to when saints go machine for the first time and it was not what i expected. for some reason i thought it was noisier, and it sounds like straight-up synth pop.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

why do ppl take the time to type out tUnE-yArDs correctly but write w h o k i l l in lowercase even though its obv uppercase on the cover?

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:15 (fourteen years ago)

n o i d e a .

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:16 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/Nkw0p.jpg

9. Uncle Acid and the Deadbeats — Blood Lust (696 points, 19 votes, two first place votes

P4K: DNP
P&J: 408

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:17 (fourteen years ago)

really getting into nicolas jaar. unlike most here, i think i prefer the more abstract sound of SION to the more dance-oriented stuff.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

woop woop! Didn't vote for this but so happy it made it!

two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

just heard some of this for the first time last night. pretty cool

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

Kinda disappointed Genre-Specific Xperience didn't place. It felt like it was gathering steam around here around the time of voting and I expected it to make the countdown.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:18 (fourteen years ago)

I voted for FAQ in tracks fwiw.

two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:19 (fourteen years ago)

yaaaaay the metal threads pet album

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:19 (fourteen years ago)

DRUGS B RIGHTY

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:20 (fourteen years ago)

Cool that Unk Acid made the top ten.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:20 (fourteen years ago)

wtf is uncle acid & the deadbeats?!?!

Kinda disappointed Genre-Specific Xperience didn't place. It felt like it was gathering steam around here around the time of voting and I expected it to make the countdown.

ehhh, i voted for it but EPs are always gonna have a tough time stacked up against full length albums :(

xps ah. metal. right.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:20 (fourteen years ago)

Regarding Tune-Yards, flopson put it so much better than I could ever hope to:

listening to tuneyards i feel like i'm in a room at a party when someone youtube dj's obnoxious dubstep or a guy with acoustic guitar getting too into it. like you politey try to ignore it but inside you're reeling at their painful lack of self-awareness, embarrassed for them.

― flopson, Monday, January 23, 2012 10:35 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thinking about tuneyards i almost convinced myself that i like music thats more poised/restrained but then i realized, like, i love "mother" and early boredoms and other cathartic or ott singing so that must not be it. compared to john lennon tuneyards shounds like she's singing with loud headphones on, like you can acknowledge that its ecstatic but you also don't feel that you should be privy to it, like walking in on someone masturbating vigorously

― flopson, Monday, January 23, 2012 10:44 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Clarke B., Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

Woulda been higher if the reverend hadnt cut it off.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

lex its not really metal, its psychedelic poppy heavy rock

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:21 (fourteen years ago)

ASR you should be grinning right now. I hope you are.

two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:22 (fourteen years ago)

WELL DONE GUYS. Just missed my ballot, but I'm very happy it's here.

(And yep, it's not metal, but it is rock)

emil.y, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:22 (fourteen years ago)

those flopson posts were great

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:22 (fourteen years ago)

holding out slim hope for subrosa and corrupted!

omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:22 (fourteen years ago)

not as much as George, he predicted top 10 at the start!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:22 (fourteen years ago)

I've never dipped into Tuneyards that much, kind of sounds like the kind of thing Ponytail did well occasionally.

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

ehhh, i voted for it but EPs are always gonna have a tough time stacked up against full length albums :(

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, February 2, 2012 11:20 AM Bookmark

I voted for hella EPs including my #1. :(

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

Oh shit, this list's gone bonkers

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

also voted for the al-Qadiri EP

Uncle Acid fans: any particular track to start with?

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

aw thanks, guy xp's

flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

Eh, it's metal enough to be metal for people who don't spend any of their time listening to metal. That would be like arguing that Robyn isn't pop and Britney is. xps

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:23 (fourteen years ago)

Awesome! My #3!

Lex there's a thread I just made for this and other psych/pop-art metal albums...

Drugs A. Money, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:24 (fourteen years ago)

Sweet. Us rockers can stop whining now, the crossover album of choice made it. Lots of other great stuff that would appeal to those on the metal fence like SubRosa, Blood Ceremony, The Devil's Blood, Elder and Graveyard, but just glad to see one make it.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:24 (fourteen years ago)

I hoped by starting Uncle Acid & The Deadbeats - Blood Lust (One of the best rock albums this year) I'd get ilxors into the band but never dreamed it would go top 10. just WOW.

It really is an album that anyone who likes poppy rock could get into. Nothing to put anyone off at all. Might even be melodic enough for geir!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:25 (fourteen years ago)

Didn't particularly like this album, but it's good seeing the list get nutso.

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:25 (fourteen years ago)

rob start with the youtubes on that thread?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:25 (fourteen years ago)

Great to see Uncle Acid place!

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:25 (fourteen years ago)

Another victory for outloud room btw

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:26 (fourteen years ago)

top ten!!

La Lechera, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:26 (fourteen years ago)

i would have voted for it if i'd heard it in time, dug into it on the metal results thread.

omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:26 (fourteen years ago)

BTW if there's anything on the list that needs it to be understood, that Tim Hecker needs to be listened to REALLY FLIPPING LOUD

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:27 (fourteen years ago)

I feel like half the stuff that I don't recognize is Outloud fare.

jaymc, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:27 (fourteen years ago)

or http://youtu.be/zfNHX5k9N-A
and
http://youtu.be/jWyj03OSvek

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:28 (fourteen years ago)

nice psychedelic video for the first one

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:28 (fourteen years ago)

9. Uncle Acid and the Deadbeats — Blood Lust (696 points, 19 votes, two first place votes

FUCK YES! DAM was saying it was gonna place, but i figured that for wishful thinking. biggest (and happiest) surprise of the countdown. the run from "i'm here to kill you" through "13 candles" to "ritual knife" is probably my favorite quarter-hour of music released this year.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:29 (fourteen years ago)

cool, just listened to I'll Cut You Down. Not totally sold yet--this isn't really my thing these days--but it's well done and I would definitely be into anything these people art-directed

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:29 (fourteen years ago)

hmm, kinda think I need to hear this at better than youtube quality. is there much bass on the record?

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:30 (fourteen years ago)

I think some of you might like drugs a moneys thread Poptimists get into ...METAL?!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:31 (fourteen years ago)

like you can acknowledge that its ecstatic but you also don't feel that you should be privy to it, like walking in on someone masturbating vigorously

― flopson, Monday, January 23, 2012 10:44 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this metaphor repulses me so much i can't even begin to

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:31 (fourteen years ago)

was it in front of a baby?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:32 (fourteen years ago)

i just got here. is there a single spotify playlist being made for as much of this poll is available there?

Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:34 (fourteen years ago)

I found that Uncle Acid record kinda dull, didn't find it particularly distinctive at all. Really looking forward to hearing Julianna Barwick though.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:35 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/tNtBb.jpg

8. Pistol Annies — Hell on Heels (762 points, 19 votes, two first place votes)

P4K: DNP
P&J: 23

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J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:36 (fourteen years ago)

without really knowing what's coming i think i'm glad we got 8-10 out of the way here

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:37 (fourteen years ago)

haha nice timing
Metalheads Respond to Pistol Annies

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:37 (fourteen years ago)

forks: http://open.spotify.com/user/miketd/playlist/1eFRt0eXdigDDJ1aWMqPuP

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:37 (fourteen years ago)

heh we've just been discussing this on Metalheads Respond to Pistol Annies

my #4. superb album

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:38 (fourteen years ago)

Been away, just dropping in to say UNCLE FUCKING ACID! Well done to the rock Crüe, particularly Kerr who persuaded me to change my ballot after it had been handed in.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:38 (fourteen years ago)

Cool, Uncle Acid placed... I don't really care about the rest.

billstevejim, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:39 (fourteen years ago)

hopefully a non limited no bullshit this time vinyl repress will come of the uncle acid.
Uncle Acid is from Cambridge btw. So it's strange seeing a brit heavy rock band in the top 10.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

discovering stuff like Uncle Acid & the Deadbeats is what makes lurking at this place worthwhile. My #2.

silverfish, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

xp yeah i would love that album on vinyl

billstevejim, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

uncle acid vinyl is going for $400+ these days. its bullshit

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:43 (fourteen years ago)

happy today to have been introduced to nicolas jaar, julianna barwick and that tim hecker album. thanks to all and especially to j0rdan.

and yeah, i'm also hoping for a less limited repress of that uncle acid album. top five for me.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:43 (fourteen years ago)

! xp

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

Lex, that Vatican Vibes video is great. The music really reminds me of Plaid - did you ever get on board with them?

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

how nuts is this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Uncle-Acid-deadbeats-Blood-lust-lp-vinyl-Rise-above-records-mint-/220945871690?pt=UK_Records&hash=item337166734a

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

pistol annies: the year's most resonant recession album. tales of small-town women who are variously unhappily married, financially insolvent, addicted to pills or "bad women" in one way or another, and who respond to their non-ideal emotional, social and financial situations with, by turns, brittle optimism, defiance and utter, numbed despair.

concise (almost every song clocks in at under 3.5 minutes, but each one packs a hell of a lot into its narrative), witty, very sharp. "trailer for rent / no down payment / comes with some holes and dents where i got tired of his shit / call if you're interested."

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:45 (fourteen years ago)

the diehard version sells for a lot more as its ltd to 50

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:45 (fourteen years ago)

and it all sold out before i could get one :(

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:46 (fourteen years ago)

There's enough vinyl fetishists that would pay that, so can't blame them. The CD is only around $16, free shipping.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:46 (fourteen years ago)

and uncle acid isnt really known outside of doom circles so imagine how much it would go for if they actually got p4k acclaim and got popular.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:47 (fourteen years ago)

i think The Quietus list was the only one that had them on it. but no doubt, like with the Ghost (Sweden not Japan) album, it might get a US release in 2012so make the EOY lists in december.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:48 (fourteen years ago)

metal vinyl just goes nuts on ebay sometimes.

omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:49 (fourteen years ago)

not just metal.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:49 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/kJcGX.jpg

7. DJ Quik — The Book of David (846 points, 26 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: 29
P&J: 92

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J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:49 (fourteen years ago)

but yeah underground metal fans prefer vinyl.
xp

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:50 (fourteen years ago)

i thought DJ Quik would be higher going by its popularity in outloud

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:50 (fourteen years ago)

RAP

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:50 (fourteen years ago)

The only hip-hop album I voted for, iirc.

jaymc, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:51 (fourteen years ago)

thanks CAD

Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:52 (fourteen years ago)

Yessir for DJ Quik. Tremendous album.

Ghetto Rendezvous the ice coldest track of the year, genuinely shocking to me
http://youtu.be/aqlLDyA28yU

pandemic, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

I didn't vote Quik, but it didn't need my help after all. YAY!

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

"ghetto rendezvous" is for real the coldest rap track in recent memory

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

hopefully quik keeps putting out an album a year

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

metal vinyl just goes nuts on ebay sometimes.

― omar little, Thursday, February 2, 2012 11:49 AM (48 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not just metal.

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, February 2, 2012 11:49 AM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, but often metal. i've occasionally sold stuff on e-bay, and bidders do seem to lose their shit over "collectible" metal. plus the doods that buy it (and they're always doods) are often crazy obsessive and super-informed about billion weird little details, like comic book collectors.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:54 (fourteen years ago)

xp until i die, yes

Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:54 (fourteen years ago)

its always dudes regardless of whether its metal or not!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:54 (fourteen years ago)

Killer Dope lives up to it's title and then some http://youtu.be/84hIeyQgMf0

pandemic, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:54 (fourteen years ago)

hurrah dj quik

i have to go now i am so late oh god

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:55 (fourteen years ago)

its always dudes regardless of whether its metal or not!

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, February 2, 2012 11:54 AM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, mostly, but i've sold a fair amount of poppy garage stuff to women

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:57 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/QmvxS.jpg

6. Gang Gang Dance — Eye Contact (860 points, 29 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: 29
P&J: 92

Spotify

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:01 (fourteen years ago)

Oh good!

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:01 (fourteen years ago)

Ha, apparently I'd never seen the cover of that GGD album before. Voted for it though!

I chipped a tooth on the buttbone (askance johnson), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:02 (fourteen years ago)

29 votes. We're in consensus territory!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:02 (fourteen years ago)

Top 5 =

PJH
Katy B
Destroyer
Beyonce
and...?

I'm blanking on the fifth.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:02 (fourteen years ago)

Way to go Uncle Acid voters! Absolutely stunned to see that in the top ten!

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:02 (fourteen years ago)

uncle acid sounds really good!

skip, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

Kate Bush still to come.

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

I'm losing my confidence in that.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:04 (fourteen years ago)

Right, Kate Bush!

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:05 (fourteen years ago)

But then, how could she not have made the list at all? I guess you are right.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:05 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, I think it's too high a placing, but I'm sure she'll make it.

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:05 (fourteen years ago)

Top 5 =

PJH
Katy B
Destroyer
Beyonce
and...?

I'm blanking on the fifth.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, February 2, 2012 12:02 PM Bookmark

I've been under the assumption those four would top 5 this whole poll but been unable to come up with the fifth. I was hoping it would be DJ Quik.

xp Oh yeah, Kate Bush.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:05 (fourteen years ago)

Kind of surprised at lack of Wild Beasts though.

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:06 (fourteen years ago)

I found Eye Contact to be a considerable step down from St. Dymphna, but there are still a couple of undeniable jams on it.

jaymc, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:06 (fourteen years ago)

don't count out slick pulla

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:06 (fourteen years ago)

Between Beyonce and PJ for #1? Not that I'd have predicted any of this so far so I wouldn't put money even on that.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:06 (fourteen years ago)

King Creosote and Jon Hopkins

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:07 (fourteen years ago)

Beyonce ftw

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:07 (fourteen years ago)

i said at the very beginning it was beyonce , pj harvey and katy b for the top 3 and im staying with it.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:07 (fourteen years ago)

It's far from being the best Kate Bush album but I reckon a lot of people would have put it somewhere a bit outside their top ten. Wouldn't be surprised if it got more actual votes than most of the others, even if they weren't very high.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:08 (fourteen years ago)

The only thing that surprises me about that potential top 5 is Katy B -- did not realize she was so popular. I should probably listen to the album -- I really like "Katy on a Mission," and the tracks that showed up on the tracks poll were pretty good, too.

jaymc, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:08 (fourteen years ago)

would love it if the King Creosote and Jon Hopkins album made it, but I doubt it. So beautiful and moving.

I chipped a tooth on the buttbone (askance johnson), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:08 (fourteen years ago)

I got the Hatchback album and it is really gorgeous. I would have absolutely voted for that.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/M7W10.jpg

5. Kate Bush — 50 Words For Snow (880 points, 29 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: 36
P&J: 37

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J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

Kind of surprised at lack of Wild Beasts though.

― Phibes Kartel (NickB)

They've sadly missed out with all 3 of their albums on these lists.

Really think it's going to be PJ Harvey at number 1 with Beyonce close behind.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

I'm gonna hazard that Katy could win

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:12 (fourteen years ago)

xp re hatchback
yeah, I need to find the right time to listen to that^. whoever said it wasn't good bored at yr computer music was right

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:13 (fourteen years ago)

GGD album is solid - not top 10 for me, but I did vote for it.

two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:13 (fourteen years ago)

Again, I like the Kate Bush album well enough (voted for "Wild Man" in tracks) but it didn't make my ballot.

two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:14 (fourteen years ago)

i could see any of beyonce,pj and katy b winning.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:14 (fourteen years ago)

This is a pleasantly esoteric top ten so far.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:15 (fourteen years ago)

Eleanoora Rosenholm will be #1, obviously. Come on guys, where have you been this year?

emil.y, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:15 (fourteen years ago)

I'm digging this Colin Stetson album quite a lot you guys. Looking forward to discovering the lower echelons of the poll once this is over.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:15 (fourteen years ago)

i think even more than metal vinyl is bands like tool, pearl jam, mars volta...that shit goes haywire.

omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:16 (fourteen years ago)

kate bush, awesome.

omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:16 (fourteen years ago)

Katy B has the pop and dance factors nailed, plus she's got underground/indie cred - could be aligning factors

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:16 (fourteen years ago)

I'm really happy about Gang Gang Dance and DJ Quik both hitting the top ten, and the Pistol Annies is pretty good too. No idea there was such a following for the latter here, although I never read the rolling country thread.

Still prefer Crazy Ex-Girlfriend for Miranda action though.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:17 (fourteen years ago)

xp to omar there's gotta be a subset of 30-ish guys who have a little money and think it's so rad to have that stuff on vinyl

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:17 (fourteen years ago)

Destroyer will be #4

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:18 (fourteen years ago)

dang, Katy B is only 22 huh

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:18 (fourteen years ago)

if it isn't then poll has become really unpredictable

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:18 (fourteen years ago)

I predict Beyonce for #1.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:19 (fourteen years ago)

a fitting placement for our next album

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:19 (fourteen years ago)

THAT'S A HINT

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:19 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/m5tmy.jpg

4. Beyonce — 4 (1,089 points, 32 votes, three first place votes)

P4K: 27
P&J: 26

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J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:19 (fourteen years ago)

xp to omar there's gotta be a subset of 30-ish guys who have a little money and think it's so rad to have that stuff on vinyl

― call all destroyer, Thursday, February 2, 2012 8:17 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also in the case of the first two they had fuck all LPs pressed in the 90s despite being hueg

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:19 (fourteen years ago)

Woah. Surprised.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:20 (fourteen years ago)

i originally upthread thought katy b would win until i remembered beyonce had an album out that everyone on ilm seemed to love. but with uncle acid in the top 10 there might be enough pj voters after all.

ok wow

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:20 (fourteen years ago)

Big points jump there.

pandemic, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:21 (fourteen years ago)

beyonce's gotta shave those pits imo

omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:21 (fourteen years ago)

wow, stats for the next 3 are going to be crazy

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:21 (fourteen years ago)

if destroyer isnt up next the lex would be shitting himself if he was here

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:22 (fourteen years ago)

You know, the two things that totally knocked me out in the tracks poll was the Blawan track and Beyonce's 'Countdown'. There's been this trend in r'n'b/pop lately to incorporate loads of big trance rushes and breakdowns and it's never done anything for me, but this is how you make a fucking pop song. I was spellbound by her Glastonbury performance when I watched it on telly earlier this year, and now I have 4 and am very much looking forward to checking it out properly.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:22 (fourteen years ago)

Prediction: Destroyer won't place

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:23 (fourteen years ago)

Interesting! I was expecting Beyoncé to be top two.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:23 (fourteen years ago)

destroyer will def place

omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:23 (fourteen years ago)

destroyer at #1

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:23 (fourteen years ago)

that's a really crappy album cover on the beyonce.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:23 (fourteen years ago)

without being arsed to go to the respective threads now I got the impression that a lot more US posters dug the PJ album than the Katy B album, which seems like it should be a p big factor

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:24 (fourteen years ago)

Glad to see 4 @ 4.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:24 (fourteen years ago)

this whole thread is like an object lesson "how to not make an album cover," beyonce really one of the lesser offenders

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:24 (fourteen years ago)

Is Beyonce at 4 in both polls? It's a pretty fucking patchy album with so many unbelievably stupid bits - 'I Miss You', "tears falling down to my ears", that godawful ballad at the end when she's basically going "ME ME ME ME ME" for four minutes, fucking SWAGU. But then the rest of it is straight up amazing - Love On Top, End Of Time, Countdown, Schoolin' Life, Rather Die Young, Lay Up Under Me, all top drawer. If a bit more thought had gone into sequencing and track selection it could well have been my #1.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:24 (fourteen years ago)

what's her best album, MAtt?

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:25 (fourteen years ago)

4

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:25 (fourteen years ago)

my favorite covers are probably the more boomkatty ones like grouper or julianna barwick and also the revenue retrievin twofer

omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:25 (fourteen years ago)

4, actually.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:26 (fourteen years ago)

see the KC & JH album's got a good cover (I have a signed copy on my wall, I know, I know) that's why it didn't place.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:27 (fourteen years ago)

basically if you put "Crazy In Love", "Ring The Alarm" and "Get Me Bodied" on 4 you would have my platonic ideal of a Beyonce album

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:27 (fourteen years ago)

16 for Tropical 2!

Tim F, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:27 (fourteen years ago)

hopefully quik keeps putting out an album a year

― J0rdan S., Thursday, February 2, 2012 2:53 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"keeps"? last couple were 2 years apart and before that he was averaging an album every 3-4 years

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:28 (fourteen years ago)

Going back to Kate Bush, I only really love the first three tracks of 50 Words For Snow, but all of the rest have at least one awesome thing going on in them (but not enough for me to vote for it).

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:28 (fourteen years ago)

aaaaand no. 3

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:29 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/vZalJ.jpg

3. Katy B — On a Mission (1,288 points, 37 votes, one first place vote)

P4K: 34
P&J: 52

Spotify

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:29 (fourteen years ago)

lex is now shitting himself!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:29 (fourteen years ago)

I am basically just googling for pictures of clowns to post if Destroyer wins this.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:30 (fourteen years ago)

OK so now it's a head-to-head between my #1 and some bullshit.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:30 (fourteen years ago)

if Destroyer wins I'll even listen to it. If it doesn't I shouldn't bother, right?

C'mon PJ!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:30 (fourteen years ago)

not sure i'd call pjh bullshit
xp

pandemic, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:31 (fourteen years ago)

i think it'll be PJ

omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:31 (fourteen years ago)

b/c of britishes

omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:31 (fourteen years ago)

Rooting hard for Destroyer

skip, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:31 (fourteen years ago)

plus honourary britishes

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:31 (fourteen years ago)

LOUTALLICA

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:32 (fourteen years ago)

Come on Peej! Or, erm, what am I saying? COME ON ELEANOORA ROSENHOLM!

emil.y, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:32 (fourteen years ago)

xp Ha, no, PJ is my #1, Destroyer is the bullshit

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:32 (fourteen years ago)

hah omar britishes think it wont be pj because of yanks

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:32 (fourteen years ago)

both are d0pe

flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:32 (fourteen years ago)

LOUTALLICA

― ⚓ (gr8080)

markers, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:32 (fourteen years ago)

its USA vs Britain

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:32 (fourteen years ago)

LOUTALLICA

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:32 (fourteen years ago)

in Olympic year

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:33 (fourteen years ago)

Only ILM could make an album about the horrors of war across several continents and an entire century into 'lol britishes',

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:33 (fourteen years ago)

Alex Salmond thinks it should be Mogwai

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:33 (fourteen years ago)

Only lol britishes could make an album about the horrors of war across several continents and an entire century

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:34 (fourteen years ago)

I was the only first place voter for Kate Bush? Dang

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:34 (fourteen years ago)

i am seriously pissed at Lulu not placing at all, wtf happened

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:34 (fourteen years ago)

if tuneyards can win p&j then destroyer can win ILM ...i hope.

≧^◡^≦ moon dayo (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:34 (fourteen years ago)

:D :D some dude :D :D

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:34 (fourteen years ago)

"the only things the Americans charged in WW1 was interest on the loans" - Dads Army quote.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:35 (fourteen years ago)

I like Destroyer but c'mon, this should be Peejjjjjayyyy

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:35 (fourteen years ago)

xp markers doesn't vote in these

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:35 (fourteen years ago)

Only lol britishes could make an album about the horrors of war across several continents and an entire century

― lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, February 2, 2012 3:34 PM (48 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hahaha

flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:35 (fourteen years ago)

We need a worthy winner too after last years debacle lol

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:35 (fourteen years ago)

the top two were separated by only 44 points and one vote, tho the winner had five more first place votes

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:36 (fourteen years ago)

Because Americans don't know any history?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:36 (fourteen years ago)

The Katy B. is an exceptional pop album less for the highlights, but because it never drags. Great straight through listen.

Sanpaku, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:36 (fourteen years ago)

so PJH wins then
xxxp

pandemic, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:36 (fourteen years ago)

its pj at #1

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:36 (fourteen years ago)

destroyer

flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:36 (fourteen years ago)

bet u five bucks

flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:36 (fourteen years ago)

P! J!

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:37 (fourteen years ago)

who won last year?

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:37 (fourteen years ago)

big boi

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:37 (fourteen years ago)

COME ON, SUBROSA

omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:37 (fourteen years ago)

destroyer couldn't get that many #1s

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:37 (fourteen years ago)

@Rob, Big Boi lol

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:37 (fourteen years ago)

Eleanoora Rosenholm!

Okay, I'll stop now.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:37 (fourteen years ago)

iirc the destroyer thread had a few 'album of the year' bumps

^◡^ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:37 (fourteen years ago)

Big Boi album feels like soooo long ago.

pandemic, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:37 (fourteen years ago)

Adele vs Fleet Foxes you guys

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

oh right

J0rdan save the queen!

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

just fyi i'll be posting the next two at the same time, with the winner on top

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

*F5's furiously*

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

lol

flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/ZHVtf.jpg

1. Destroyer — Kaputt (1,355 points, 36 votes, 12 first place votes)

P4K: 2
P&J: 7

Spotify

http://i.imgur.com/y6vCZ.jpg

2. PJ Harvey — Let England Shake (1,311 points, 37 votes, seven first place votes)

P4K: 4
P&J: 2

Spotify

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:39 (fourteen years ago)

so i picked up a shift last night at my bar on "college tuesday"...put this on and got surprising reactions. Lots of "who's this?" and to top it off Song for America actually had people dancing and sexy girl dancing. Although there were a few odd looks during the whole animals...deaths embrace thing. Meanwhile I was doing lots of pelvic thrusts behind the bar. Im sure this is exactly what Bejar was going for.

― Beardie you disappoint me (chrisv2010), Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:14 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:39 (fourteen years ago)

daaaaaaamn

omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:39 (fourteen years ago)

w00t!!

^◡^ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:39 (fourteen years ago)

lol.

marc iv, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:39 (fourteen years ago)

AHHH OMGGGG WAHT

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:39 (fourteen years ago)

Whoa 12 First place Votes!

pandemic, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:39 (fourteen years ago)

gnnnnnhhhhhh!

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:39 (fourteen years ago)

lex just shot himself

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:39 (fourteen years ago)

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

emil.y, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:39 (fourteen years ago)

apt album titles

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:39 (fourteen years ago)

first "rock" winner!

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:39 (fourteen years ago)

my bad on the lol hueg images btw, i thought imgur was resizing some of them to 300 x 300 but i guess not

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:40 (fourteen years ago)

there's your "rock" album winning the ILM poll, ASR.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:40 (fourteen years ago)

destroyer was #2 on p4k? damn

^◡^ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:40 (fourteen years ago)

Balls to that.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:40 (fourteen years ago)

good work j0rdan and fever

omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:40 (fourteen years ago)

there's your "rock" album winning the ILM poll, ASR.

― Johnny Fever, donderdag 2 februari 2012 21:40 (1 second ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah THANKS A LOT KERR

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:40 (fourteen years ago)

don't forget seandalai, y'all, without whom none of this would be possible.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:40 (fourteen years ago)

Thanks J0rdan, Johnny and seandalai

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:41 (fourteen years ago)

i guess i need to go listen to this album to see what the fuss is about

cheers to j0rdan and seandalai for a great poll!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:41 (fourteen years ago)

You sure saved me, JF, Seandalai and Jordan, hats off <3

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:41 (fourteen years ago)

thank you all!

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:41 (fourteen years ago)

the finish that 2011 deserved

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:41 (fourteen years ago)

Thanks all you guys, it's been fun. Even if PJ Harvey was robbed.

emil.y, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:41 (fourteen years ago)

and yeah thanks fellas <3

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:41 (fourteen years ago)

Well, it's definitely an ILM-y top 77, if nothing else.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:42 (fourteen years ago)

Huge Thanks J0rdan, Seandalai and voters one and all for giving me so much stuff to check. And emil.y for repeatedly posting "Eleanoora Rosenholm!" which led me to youtubing her, cool stuff.

pandemic, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:42 (fourteen years ago)

This is the equivalent of the FA cup with lots of exciting, quirky results and then fucking Man U win it to sour it all.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:42 (fourteen years ago)

Gutted about King Creosote not placing tbh

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:42 (fourteen years ago)

ILM this album better be a good album for beating PJ and making me listen to it

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:42 (fourteen years ago)

LOL Billy Dods

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:43 (fourteen years ago)

everyone go listen to uncle acid

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:43 (fourteen years ago)

"I did most of the vocals while fixing myself a sandwich."

-Dan Bejar

flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:43 (fourteen years ago)

Eleanoora Rosenholm was on my ballot, thanks solely to hearing her several times in outloud. Wish she would've cracked the top 77, but oh wells.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:43 (fourteen years ago)

I poopoo on your Lulu

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:43 (fourteen years ago)

if seandalai is going to post that same stats rundown thing, tyia

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:43 (fourteen years ago)

Notwithstanding it'x been a blast. Great work chaps.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:43 (fourteen years ago)

I demand a refund

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:44 (fourteen years ago)

Has anything ever received 12 first place votes in one of these polls?

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:44 (fourteen years ago)

For all my handwringing on the tracks thread about being out of step with ILM, I believe this is the first time my #1 album was also ILM's #1.

jaymc, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:44 (fourteen years ago)

i have and like some new pornographers records but i really have zero idea what destroyer sounds like or if i should bother

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:45 (fourteen years ago)

everyone go listen to uncle acid

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, February 2, 2012 10:43 AM (1 minute ago)

i am tbh.

its cool but fuk u if you think this is amazing as Destroyer

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:45 (fourteen years ago)

WHAT THE FUCK ILM?!!?!!

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:45 (fourteen years ago)

i have and like some new pornographers records but i really have zero idea what destroyer sounds like or if i should bother

― lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, February 2, 2012 10:45 AM (11 seconds ago)

Kauputt has basically ZERO relevance to new pornographers fyi

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:45 (fourteen years ago)

Eleanoora Rosenholm was on my ballot, thanks solely to hearing her several times in outloud. Wish she would've cracked the top 77, but oh wells.

I take credit for that since Sandy isnt here

xp

I like the 1st couple of New Pornographers albums but have no idea what Destroyer sounds like either

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:46 (fourteen years ago)

It's smooth 80s pastiche, basically the polar opposite of everything New Pr0ns stands for. xps

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:46 (fourteen years ago)

This is the equivalent of the FA cup with lots of exciting, quirky results and then fucking Man U win it to sour it all.

― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, February 2, 2012 8:42 PM (44 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbomb

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:46 (fourteen years ago)

i have and like some new pornographers records but i really have zero idea what destroyer sounds like or if i should bother

I think the new pornographers are pretty lame but the destroyer album is super amazing

iatee, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:46 (fourteen years ago)

Never heard a note of Destroyer in my life, so can't comment on their win (but trust the opinions of the naysayers in general).

For all that, the countdown was p. exciting, esp. the 30-11 stretch.

Thanks, J0rdan & seandadata!!!

Jeff W, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:46 (fourteen years ago)

congratulations, we trolled ourselves!

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:46 (fourteen years ago)

Anyone surprised by this result probably hasn't read the Kaputt thread in which numerous posters refer to the album as their favorite of the year.

jaymc, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:46 (fourteen years ago)

Gobsmacked that King Creosote didn't even place.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:47 (fourteen years ago)

Never heard a note of Destroyer in my life, so can't comment on their win (but trust the opinions of the naysayers in general).

― Jeff W, Thursday, February 2, 2012 3:46 PM (5 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

solitary posts that effortlessly summarize the spirit of ilm

flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:47 (fourteen years ago)

Kaputt-crew won this

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:47 (fourteen years ago)

lol DJP

rob, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:47 (fourteen years ago)

Bit busy atm but...

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two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:47 (fourteen years ago)

I think the new pornographers are pretty lame but the destroyer album is super amazing

The only New Pornographers songs I really like are the Bejar ones ("Jackie Dressed in Cobras," "Myriad Harbour," etc.)

jaymc, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:47 (fourteen years ago)

yeah I didn't read the Destroyer thread, mostly because I assumed that a band called Destroyer was some black metal band I didn't care about

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:48 (fourteen years ago)

Anyone surprised by this result probably hasn't read the Kaputt thread in which numerous posters refer to the album as their favorite of the year.

― jaymc, Thursday, February 2, 2012 10:46 AM (58 seconds ago)

Kaputt-crew won this

― Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, February 2, 2012 10:47 AM (1 second ago)

OTM

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:48 (fourteen years ago)

If I had to pick one Destroyer album (at gunpoint), it would be this one. If I had to pick one album from 2011, this wouldn't even cross my mind.

That said, I wouldn't leave a party that had it on in the background.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:48 (fourteen years ago)

I bet King Creosote is number 78 just to spite me.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:48 (fourteen years ago)

favorite album of the last 2 or 3 years

also Rustie is some bullshit

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:48 (fourteen years ago)

poll got DESTROYED amirite!

flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:48 (fourteen years ago)

good job crew

^◡^ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:49 (fourteen years ago)

hella crews.

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:49 (fourteen years ago)

SO many of my favorite albums taunting me from just outside the top 77 (Patrick Stump, Meek Mill, Lulu, Lloyd)

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:49 (fourteen years ago)

if markers had voted lulu woulda made the 77

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

lloyd got ROBBED

flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

so thanks markers for not voting for that shite band who used to be great!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

While I really don't think Destroyer is album of the year material, I'm glad it finished ahead of that spotty as hell PJ Harvey album. I still don't understand how people can consider that such a masterpiece. Its about half a great album, while the other half is meh to terrible.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

young galaxy, so close!

omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:50 (fourteen years ago)

lloyd got TWO votes in all of pazz & jop so i didn't really have high hopes for it here

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:51 (fourteen years ago)

hah I had 9 out of 15 albums place

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:51 (fourteen years ago)

Love seeing all these lurkers in the stats list. For instance this chap Whiney G. Weingarten, fun name, sounds like a cool guy!

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:51 (fourteen years ago)

aww Ghost at #90! So close!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:51 (fourteen years ago)

three votes for "sorry for party rocking"........

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:52 (fourteen years ago)

104 King Creosote & Jon Hopkins - Diamond Mine

Biggest travesty, right there

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:52 (fourteen years ago)

Hello Drugs A. Money, you are my neighbor!

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:52 (fourteen years ago)

Corrupted at #102!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:52 (fourteen years ago)

wow 5 was closer to the countdown than I thought it would be

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

i think people just forgot about lloyd. i remember reading some people saying it was their fav r&b of the year in the interim between beyonce & drake

flopson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

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― two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, February 2, 2012 10:47 AM (4 minutes ago)

how can ilx poster just sayin have only 2 in the top 77 but be the hive mind champion??? or am i reading this wrong?

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

100% hit rate?

emil.y, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:54 (fourteen years ago)

ilm metal #1 was only #136!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:54 (fourteen years ago)

J3ff is my closest neighbor. Must be Turisas.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:54 (fourteen years ago)

how can ilx poster just sayin have only 2 in the top 77 but be the hive mind champion??? or am i reading this wrong?

That poster only voted for 2 albums. Both of them placed.

jaymc, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:54 (fourteen years ago)

yessssssss, Destroyer was my #1. Sorry to all tha haterz.

Moodles, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:54 (fourteen years ago)

how can ilx poster just sayin have only 2 in the top 77 but be the hive mind champion??? or am i reading this wrong?

probably just voted for Destroyer and PJ Harvey, lol

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:55 (fourteen years ago)

ok who was the other Eleanoora Rosenholm - Hyväile Minua Pimeä Tähti voter apart from myself & emil.y?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:55 (fourteen years ago)

nice!!

Thanks for putting this on, JF and jordan!

skip, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:55 (fourteen years ago)

Eleanoora Rosenholm #1 for enthusiasm :D

emil.y, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:56 (fourteen years ago)

Thanks for running the poll. Unpredictable from start to finish.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:56 (fourteen years ago)

That poster only voted for 2 albums. Both of them placed.

― jaymc, Thursday, February 2, 2012 10:54 AM (1 minute ago)

ah. thank you mr. spreadsheet

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:56 (fourteen years ago)

Only 5 people even voted for KC&JH, very odd indeed.

Thanks jordan and JF for this - such a great rundown. I still maintain it's been one of the best years for music in personal living memory, and so much good stuff out there of course it can't all place. Loads of curveballs and oddities placing instead of obvious choices (Goblin is right down the bottom there).

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:56 (fourteen years ago)

Eleanoora Rosenholm #1 for enthusiasm :D

― emil.y, donderdag 2 februari 2012 21:56 (12 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Will check this out!

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:56 (fourteen years ago)

So who's starting the stats'n'ballots thread? Do we leave that to the poll-runners?

emil.y, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:57 (fourteen years ago)

77. When Saints Go Machine — Konkylie (258 points, 10 votes, one first place vote)
76. Robag Wruhme — Thora Vukk (262 points, 8 votes)
75. Liturgy — Aesthethica (264 points, nine votes)
74. The Joy Formidable — The Big Roar (266 points, seven votes, one first place vote)
73. Jay-Z & Kanye West — Watch the Throne (266 points, 10 votes)
72. Barbara Panther — Barbara Panther (270 points, seven votes, two first place votes)
71. Toro y Moi - Underneath the Pine (271 points, nine votes)

(tie) 69. Wild Flag — Wild Flag (273 points, 10 votes)
(tie) 69. Low — C'Mon (273 points, 10 votes)
68. ILX Presents Lulu (276 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)
67. Veronica Falls - Veronica Falls (282 points, 11 votes)
66. Big K.R.I.T. - Return of 4Eva (288 points, 10 votes)
65. The Psychic Paramount - II (290 points, 9 votes)
64. Wolves in the Throne Room - Celestial Lineage (290 points, nine votes, one first place vote)
63. Austra - Feel it Break (290 points, ten votes, one first place vote)
62. Drake – Take Care (292 points, 8 votes, one first place vote)
61. Lykke Li – Wounded Rhymes (294 points, 10 votes)

60. James Ferraro — Far Side Virtual (295 points, 11 votes)
59. Perfume — JPN (298 points, 10 votes, two first place votes)
58. Grouper — Alien Observer/Dream Loss (304 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)
57. The War on Drugs — Slave Ambient (322 points, nine votes, one first place vote)
56. Danny Brown — XXX (323 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)
55. Mastodon — The Hunter (328 points, 10 votes)
54. Kendrick Lamar — Section.80 (337 points, 10 votes, one first place vote)
53. Laura Marling — A Creature I Don’t Know (342 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)
52. The Mountain Goats — All Eternals Deck (342 points, 12 votes)
51. Demdike Stare — Tryptych (347 points, 16 votes, one first place vote)

50. Hatchback — Zeus and Apollo (350 points, nine votes, two first place votes)
49. Moon Duo — Mazes (350 points, 12 votes)
48. Tom Waits — Bad As Me (352 points, 14 votes)
47. Clams Casino — Instrumentals (354 points, 12 votes)
46. Azari & III — Azari & III (358 points, 12 votes)
45. The Weeknd — House of Balloons (360 points, 10 votes, two first place votes)
44. Fucked Up — David Comes To Life (360 points, 13 votes, one first place vote)
43. Real Estate — Days (361 points, 11 votes, two first place votes)
42. Radiohead — King of Limbs (362 points, 13 votes)
41. Andy Stott — Passed Me By/We Stay Together (363 points, 13 votes)

40. Dawn Richard — The Prelude to a Tell Tale Heart (372 points, 11 votes)
39. Girls — Father, Son, Holy Ghost (374 points, 11 votes)
38. Junior Boys — It’s All True (375 points, 15 votes)
37. Death Grips — Ex-Military (382 points, 13 votes)
36. Holy Ghost! — Holy Ghost! (384 points, 13 votes, one first place vote)
35. Julia Holter — Tragedy (386 points, 14 votes, one first place vote)
34. Cut Copy — Zonoscope (392 points, 12 votes, one first place vote)
33. John Maus — We Must Become The Pitiless Censors of Ourselves (398 points, 14 votes, one first place vote)
32. Panda Bear — Tomboy (402 points, 13 votes)
31. Nguzunguzu — The Perfect Lullaby (404 points, 13 votes, 2 first place votes)

30. Ford & Lopatin — Channel Pressure (410 points, 14 votes)
29. Britney Spears — Femme Fatale (424 points, 13 votes, one first place vote)
28. Araabmuzik — Electronic Dream (445 points, 14 votes)
27. St. Vincent — Strange Mercy (469 points, 14 votes, one first place vote)
26. Oneohtrix Point Never — Replica (474 points, 17 votes, one first place vote)
25. Frank Ocean — Nostalgia, Ultra. (476 points, 12 votes, one first place vote)
24. Colin Stetson — New History Warfare Vol. 2: Judges (481 points, 13 votes, one first place vote)
23. E-40 — Revenue Retrievin: Overtime Shift/Graveyard Shift (484 points, 16 votes)
22. Lady Gaga — Born This Way (488 points, 14 votes, one first place vote)
21. Shabazz Palaces — Black Up (502 points, 17 votes)
20. Bon Iver — Bon Iver (512 points, 15 votes)
19. Peaking Lights — 936 (514 points, 17 votes)
18. Nicolas Jaar — Space is Only Noise (517 points, 19 votes, one first place vote)
17. M83 — Hurry Up We’re Dreaming (519 points, 21 votes, one first place vote)
16. Boy Better Know — Tropical 2 (548 points, 15 votes, 4 first place votes)
15. Rustie — Glass Swords (557 points, 18 votes)
14. Kurt Vile — Smoke Ring For My Halo (572 points, 16 votes, one first place vote)
13. Julianna Barwick — The Magic Place (583 points, 19 votes, two first place votes)
12. EMA — Past Life Martyred Saints (590 points, 18 votes, two first place votes)
11. Tim Hecker — Ravedeath, 1972 (597 points, 21 votes, one first place vote)
10. tUnE-yArDs — w h o k i l l (666 points, 20 votes, two first place votes)
9. Uncle Acid and the Deadbeats — Blood Lust (696 points, 19 votes, two first place votes
8. Pistol Annies — Hell on Heels (762 points, 19 votes, two first place votes)
7. DJ Quik — The Book of David (846 points, 26 votes, one first place vote)
6. Gang Gang Dance — Eye Contact (860 points, 29 votes, one first place vote)
5. Kate Bush — 50 Words For Snow (880 points, 29 votes, one first place vote)
4. Beyonce — 4 (1,089 points, 32 votes, three first place votes)
3. Katy B — On a Mission (1,288 points, 37 votes, one first place vote)
2. PJ Harvey — Let England Shake (1,311 points, 37 votes, seven first place votes)
1. Destroyer — Kaputt (1,355 points, 36 votes, 12 first place votes)

pandemic, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:57 (fourteen years ago)

xps I voted for ER too, Kerr.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:57 (fourteen years ago)

A big thank you to all involved and those that did all all the number crunching. I really fucking loved all of this \\0//

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:57 (fourteen years ago)

Someone start the stats thread stat

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:57 (fourteen years ago)

Destroyer = Man Utd is a really crap analogy

Number None, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:58 (fourteen years ago)

This Destroyer album... it sounds like someone doing a pastiche of OMD or Electronic or something, which is exactly what it is. ILM, seriously I thought we were over this kind of thing. Must've been the US vote on this one, I'm assuming?

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:58 (fourteen years ago)

Yes, thanks a lot guys!

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:58 (fourteen years ago)

Damn! I had forgotten about the Eleanoora Rosenholm album. I'd have voted for that.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:58 (fourteen years ago)

aw man i'm the only one who voted for trail of dead

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:58 (fourteen years ago)

tbh I only remembered ToD released a new album when I saw it on the nominations list. Would have considered voting it worst album art of the year, though.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 20:59 (fourteen years ago)

Kauputt has basically ZERO relevance to new pornographers fyi

OTM. It has zero relevance to anything in 2011. Everyone who voted for this terrible record should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

Matt DC, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:00 (fourteen years ago)

not impressed with this Destroyer so far. It's a bit tasteful and polite. Nothing to hate about it but its hardly genius like grady thinks.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:00 (fourteen years ago)

Only one sad little vote for my #1, mine.

La Lechera, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:00 (fourteen years ago)

the destroyer record goes a lot deeper than the initial sonic comparisons fyi

^◡^ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:00 (fourteen years ago)

just want 2 b "relevant"

Number None, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:01 (fourteen years ago)

What was it, LL?

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:01 (fourteen years ago)

yeah the album cover is pretty audacious

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:01 (fourteen years ago)

i kinda like the 'bad fantasy novel' aesthetic though tbh

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:01 (fourteen years ago)

It was Kieran Hebden, Steve Reid & Mats Gustafsson - Live at the South Bank and I think a lot more people would like it if they had heard it, esp considering what actually placed. OH WELL.

La Lechera, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:02 (fourteen years ago)

If someone with a voice that didn't make me nuts had made Kaputt, I'd have liked it a lot more.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:02 (fourteen years ago)

It has zero relevance to anything in 2011.

What difference does this make?

jaymc, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:02 (fourteen years ago)

his voice doesnt bother me at all. I think it may have been a better idea to play this just before bedtime.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:03 (fourteen years ago)

It was apparently VERY relevant to 12 people from ILM (and others who didn't actually make it their #1 votes).

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:03 (fourteen years ago)

I like Bejar's voice for the same reason I like Bowie's or Morrissey's.

jaymc, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:03 (fourteen years ago)

it was released in 2011 and a lot of people listened to it in 2011 and enjoyed it in 2011. that's pretty relevant imo

ciderpress, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:03 (fourteen years ago)

i like destroyer good record good victory for the New World lol britishes

#YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:04 (fourteen years ago)

Half Man Half Biscuit got four more points than Tyler <3

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:05 (fourteen years ago)

thx guys, now I can buy this Destroyer album w/ a clear conscience.

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:05 (fourteen years ago)

destroyer was my #1 as well. Took me a while to get into it, but it is an album worth investing some time in.

also I love his voice and lyrics, on this and on previous albums.

silverfish, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:05 (fourteen years ago)

4 tracks in and every song on this Kaputt album sounds the same - same tempo, same droney faux-English voice... Thought the Gayngs album from last year did a much better take on this kind of thing.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:06 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, even if I didn't vote for it, I'm not gonna shit on the winner of this poll (that holds true for ANY album). Unless it would've been Hammers of Misfortune lol.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:06 (fourteen years ago)

lol

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:07 (fourteen years ago)

three votes for "sorry for party rocking"........

― lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude)

If it's any consolation, IIRC I was one of these votes and Soul Punk was my #1 in the desperate hope it would sneak into the list. Glad my votes for Tropical 2/Uncle Acid counted, at least.

etc, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:07 (fourteen years ago)

maybe listen to 'bay of pigs' first.. i feel like it's a mission statement for the album more or less

^◡^ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:08 (fourteen years ago)

love it when people listen to an album that has 1,355 points, 36 votes, 12 first place votes for like five minutes and dismiss it offhandedly

probably would have been my #1 vote too if i remembered to vote

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:08 (fourteen years ago)

Florence + the Machine @ #242. Good job ILX.

Sanpaku, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:08 (fourteen years ago)

It was Kieran Hebden, Steve Reid & Mats Gustafsson - Live at the South Bank and I think a lot more people would like it if they had heard it, esp considering what actually placed. OH WELL.

― La Lechera, donderdag 2 februari 2012 22:02 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes! I did track it down after you stanned for it, but it came too late for me to vote for it. I probably would've squeezed it in now

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:08 (fourteen years ago)

ok etc i will extend the olive branch, it's all good

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:08 (fourteen years ago)

I never vote in these cuz my tastes tend to be outlandish, so it's weird that #1 and #2 are albums I actually think were two of the best of the year

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:09 (fourteen years ago)

the destroyer album only had 1,355 points but each and every one of them went on to start its own poll

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:09 (fourteen years ago)

so weird how an artist would have a similar sound on all his songs

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:09 (fourteen years ago)

ps I haven't liked a pj harvey album since dry

I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:10 (fourteen years ago)

.....the world is just bones the world is black stones....

^◡^ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:10 (fourteen years ago)

I despise Florence for making that racist video and am not planning to ever buy another one of her releases, but I really, genuinely loved Ceremonials and I feel like Florence baggage gets in the way of people engaging with that album.

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:10 (fourteen years ago)

the destroyer album only had 1,355 points but each and every one of them went on to start its own poll

― lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, February 2, 2012 3:09 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

only 3 million people understood this reference but every one of them structured a shitty joke around it

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:10 (fourteen years ago)

oh look who my top neighbour is again. What a surprise.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:11 (fourteen years ago)

if markers had voted lulu woulda made the 77

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker

\(^o^)/

markers, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:11 (fourteen years ago)

3 million people
joke beat to death
video gaaaaaames

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:11 (fourteen years ago)

Which video is racist? (Maybe that's been covered, but I think the last Florence video I watched was for Dog Days three years ago.)

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:11 (fourteen years ago)

I'm definitely not in synch with most of the top results here. I listened to that Destroyer album a dozen times. I dismissed it carefully and deliberately!

20 Bon Iver - 526
19 Peaking Lights - 28
17 M83 - 174
15 Rustie - 151
14 Vile - 375
12 EMA - 173
11 Hecker - 156
10 tUnE-yArDs - 313
9 Uncle Acid - 7
6 Gang Gang Dance - 58
5 Kate Bush - 206
4 Beyonce - 432
3 Katy B - 429
2 PJ Harvey - 152
1 Destroyer - 479

234 TVOTR - 1
235 Graveyard - 2
118 White Denim - 3
389 Elder - 4
405 Been Obscene - 5
423 At Devil Dirt - 6
340 Vaccines - 8
103 Opeth - 11
417 Sungrazer - 12

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:11 (fourteen years ago)

markers saved the poll

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:12 (fourteen years ago)

www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=90870

two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:12 (fourteen years ago)

love it when people listen to an album that has 1,355 points, 36 votes, 12 first place votes for like five minutes and dismiss it offhandedly

i thought that was the point of this thread? it's kinda fun to listen to everything that you ignored all year in a rush and make snap judgements.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:12 (fourteen years ago)

uh 2011 Albums Poll: Stats and Ballots Hoedown of Truth

two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:12 (fourteen years ago)

heh I just found the Destroyer album in the middle of a four-foot tall pile of promo CDs I am slowly putting onto eBay

I *could* listen to it again I guess

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:13 (fourteen years ago)

geez n/a you're getting mighty defensive about the level of respect ppl are affording the ilm year end poll results!

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:13 (fourteen years ago)

I don't know you can call Destroyer not relevant when it scoops up bits and pieces from pretty much every non-pop subgroup of indie music. So nothing sounds quite like it, but that's because no one is doing all that at once and making it sound cohesive. It's also a great antidote to the loudness war.

skip, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:13 (fourteen years ago)

Prediction: Destroyer won't place

― Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, February 2, 2012 3:23 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:13 (fourteen years ago)

Cher Lloyd got 7 votes lmao

billstevejim, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:14 (fourteen years ago)

subgroup of current indie music

skip, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:14 (fourteen years ago)

Which video is racist? (Maybe that's been covered, but I think the last Florence video I watched was for Dog Days three years ago.)

http://youtu.be/HGH-4jQZRcc

here is "No Light, No Light" in all its racisty, gothy glory

it's a great song, too ;_; fuck you, Florence

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:14 (fourteen years ago)

Shit, Lex is my top neighbour, did not see that coming. I'd have to see his list, I'll be pleasantly surprised if he voted for Art Brut and Wild Beasts too. Realistically it's becuase he voted for Cher Lloyd, Nikkiya, PJ Harvey and Kate Bush too.

A bit gutted Raphael Saadiq didn't make it. It was my number one.

Thanks to you guys for putting this list together.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:14 (fourteen years ago)

great live show on the kaputt tour too!

^◡^ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:15 (fourteen years ago)

man i'm really out of touch these days. i've only listened to maybe 10 of these. and there were releases by longtime faves that i totally ignored.

Ford & Lopatin — Channel Pressure << this totally ruled my year tho.

cool poll, always love these, thanks j0rd for putting it together.

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:16 (fourteen years ago)

i'm being a dick, sorry guys, i really won't post on this thread anymore starting right now

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:17 (fourteen years ago)

i'm giving this destroyer a shot on youtube. not so hot i'm afraid. but i never liked the new pornographers much either.

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:18 (fourteen years ago)

my friend whistled a katy b song to me over the phone, sorry but it just doesn't do much for me

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:19 (fourteen years ago)

oh so starting now you meant?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:22 (fourteen years ago)

I only liked 'Savage Night At The Opera' off the Destroyer, but I did like it a lot, mainly 'cause it sounded like Broken Social Scene when they were great.

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:24 (fourteen years ago)

lol xxp

^◡^ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:24 (fourteen years ago)

are you telling me i should like this more or get new headphones or what

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:26 (fourteen years ago)

SO many of my favorite albums taunting me from just outside the top 77

same. wolf & lamb vs soul clap, love love vs hate love, lloyd, meek mill

i wish i'd voted meek mill as my #1. oh well.

the emancipation of me-me (tpp), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:27 (fourteen years ago)

don't bother asking, he is definitely not posting on this thread anymore, he said so.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:27 (fourteen years ago)

I nearly voted for that Soul Clap / W+L mix but it got knocked off by Uncle Acid

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:28 (fourteen years ago)

good choice

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:30 (fourteen years ago)

Destroyer was the #20 best reviewed on sites tracked by Metacritic
http://www.metacritic.com/feature/best-albums-of-2011

My #16, Wild Beasts, was also #16 on Metacritic. Surprised it was only #85 here.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:33 (fourteen years ago)

if markers had voted lulu woulda made the 77

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker

\(^o^)/

― markers

i didn't vote either and lulu would've been my no. 1

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:37 (fourteen years ago)

dammit brad

how can you help the LULU cause and hurt it in such quick succession

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:41 (fourteen years ago)

p happy with this years list. i got two more albums in the top 77 this year and v v pleased to see the excellent tim hecker album place so highly

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:42 (fourteen years ago)

what's her best album, MAtt?

― Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, February 2, 2012 3:25 PM (1 hour ago)

Beyonce albums poll

embarrassing results imo, but if you're interested

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:44 (fourteen years ago)

Embarrassingly correct, you mean!

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:45 (fourteen years ago)

pretty much agree with matt dc's assessment of 4, good album that's just way overrated around here and doesn't come close imo to b'day

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:45 (fourteen years ago)

except Matt then went on to say 4 was her best album so

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:46 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not sure I've listened to B'Day since 2006, but "Deja Vu" might be better than any track on 4.

jaymc, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:47 (fourteen years ago)

haha of all the tracks to rep for man

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:49 (fourteen years ago)

I love "Deja Vu" but a good 75% of 44 steamrolls it

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:52 (fourteen years ago)

I'm happy that Destroyer won, my number 3 or 4 I think.

I'm surprised that I like all of the top 8 albums. Haven't heard 9 and can't remember what I thought of 10.

Tim F, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:54 (fourteen years ago)

Re "Deja Vu":

This song is like being locked in a dumbwaiter with a hyperactive gibbon wielding an airhorn.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, July 16, 2006 9:54 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

jaymc, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:54 (fourteen years ago)

that's quite a strong compliment imo.

two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:55 (fourteen years ago)

i just can't believe people remember "Mildly Psychologically Disturbed In Love" even exists when they're not listening to the album it's on

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:57 (fourteen years ago)

Anyway, back to the most important thing. A ROCK ALBUM FINALLY WON OUR POLL! lol it rocks about as hard as a single gym sock in a dryer full of towels. But, technically, it's the work of a WHITE MALE WHO PLAYS MULTIPLE INSTRUMENTS PROFICIENTLY AND HAS A BEARD.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:59 (fourteen years ago)

except Matt then went on to say 4 was her best album so

― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, February 2, 2012 4:46 PM (12 minutes ago)

for a dude who likes to chastise others on their reading comprehension you must have missed the 'imo' in my post!

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:59 (fourteen years ago)

its not a rock record, its a lifestyle record, man.

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:00 (fourteen years ago)

destroyer would have been my #1 or #2 if i'd voted. kinda funny watching people's reactions to that one. pleasantly shocked at quik's placing at #7 without help from either me or deej!

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:01 (fourteen years ago)

4 is great. So is B'Day. I still haven't decided which is better - they have totally different aesthetics and aims.

Great poll. Honestly, the most I can ask out of an ILM poll is that much of it be stuff I didn't know existed, and this succeeded.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:03 (fourteen years ago)

johnny i was going to say, it doesn't sound much like a rock record.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:06 (fourteen years ago)

the fact that it might not really be a rock record fits in with the REAL RnB/Black Metal/Indie arguments quite nicely hahaha

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:07 (fourteen years ago)

as for lifestyle, it must be a damn boring tasteful life.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:08 (fourteen years ago)

TRVE LIFESTYLE

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:20 (fourteen years ago)

lol

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:21 (fourteen years ago)

lol, that florence IS kinda casually racist
and the song ain't bad! Two surprises!

Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:22 (fourteen years ago)

kev, if you me and deej had voted it likely woulda been at like #4

Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:22 (fourteen years ago)

i'd just like to note that one of the million awesome things abt destroyer getting #1 AND twelve 1st place votes is that it leaked THIRTEEN MONTHS AGO.

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:23 (fourteen years ago)

It should go without saying, but the "problem" with critical championing of "indie-" versions of genres (R&B, metal) etc. over and above other music from those genres is not the music per se or the fact that it's being celebrated; rather, it's that so often the form and the intent of the celebration is the revalidation of the same values, over and over and over, as if the (let's call it) p4k mindset exists in a hall of mirrors wherein all it can see is refracted images of itself splayed endlessly along an infinitely receding horizon of vassal-genres.

Tim F, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:23 (fourteen years ago)

yup that's what i think about when i listen to the weeknd and smoke mad weed

sleepingbag, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:26 (fourteen years ago)

tim did you check out drugs a. moneys thread? Poptimists get into ...METAL?!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:27 (fourteen years ago)

6. Gang Gang Dance — Eye Contact (it's ok, not a patch on previous LP tho'. About the same as God's Money now I've gone back and checked out their older stuff. Really dig them overall but very surprised at the collective praise for a MUCH less convincing/exciting/diluted album to my ears)
5. Kate Bush — 50 Words For Snow (christ, I can't get into this, like really into (it's KATE BUSH!!)... I hope it deserves this place, surely AERIAL didn't place this high last time round??)
4. Beyonce — 4 (ilm)
3. Katy B — On a Mission (really, REALLY fun. Slept on this till last month, but sooo lightweight & *almost* anonymous for a good 3rd or more of the running time... #3 is an overration. Deserves to be noticed though.)
2. PJ Harvey — Let England Shake (listened a couple of times, probably as much decent as every album since the first 3 been... but never enough to surpass them to me)
1. Destroyer — Kaputt (unlikely to be my thing, ignore)

fndgo, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:29 (fourteen years ago)

i'd just like to note that one of the million awesome things abt destroyer getting #1 AND twelve 1st place votes is that it leaked THIRTEEN MONTHS AGO.

― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, February 2, 2012 5:23 PM (5 minutes ago)

otm! i voted for "bay of pigs" in the 2009 poll

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:29 (fourteen years ago)

anyone got a handy list of previous years results? was looking back at 2010 yesterday and faintly surprised to only see Warpaint at #70 (finally gave that the attention I'd meant to a whole year ago and fallen in love to bits wit it quite unexpectedly....)

fndgo, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:31 (fourteen years ago)

tim did you check out drugs a. moneys thread? Poptimists get into ...METAL?!

I've read it but can't watch youtubes at work.

I'm not someone who objects to people viewing genres with one set of values through the prism of others. It's more about how crushingly monolithic that process gets within critical discourse and how aware people are of what they're doing. I definitely think it's a massive bridge too far to think that everyone into the Weeknd or Liturgy is enjoying them for their "indie values".

Tim F, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:34 (fourteen years ago)

xp to a few posts up

Tim, doesn't that argument rely on p4k playing a normative role? Why should the opinions of p4k people get to define what kind of (say) R&B is visible? I know they're influential and ILM sometimes seems oddly obsessed with p4k, but as long as there is healthy R&B criticism it's not like non-indie/crossover artists can get completely written out of the discourse.

two lights crew (seandalai), Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:39 (fourteen years ago)

Hey, Infinite Sense Of Value
Hey, Infinite Sense Of Value
Hey, Mystic Prince Of The Purlieu at night!
I heard your record, it's alright...

― Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Thursday, February 2, 2012 11:06 AM (1 hour ago)

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:40 (fourteen years ago)

glad everyone enjoyed the poll, we'll see you next year

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:43 (fourteen years ago)

also seandalai is really the true hero of these polls, y'all

anyway i think destroyer is awesome

J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:43 (fourteen years ago)

i didn't vote either, and would have had LULU in my top 10

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:44 (fourteen years ago)

thank u sir

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:49 (fourteen years ago)

Tim, doesn't that argument rely on p4k playing a normative role? Why should the opinions of p4k people get to define what kind of (say) R&B is visible? I know they're influential and ILM sometimes seems oddly obsessed with p4k, but as long as there is healthy R&B criticism it's not like non-indie/crossover artists can get completely written out of the discourse.

Nothing ever gets completely written out of the discourse. But I think indie criticism does play a normative role for a lot of people, and I query whether and to what extent "healthy R&B criticism" even exists as a widespread thing to be honest. R&B is one of those genres that doesn't really have an organic music press, its coverage is dispersed across pop, rock, and rap-focused critical communities, and gets treated slightly differently by each.

Anyway this is not something I'm particularly worked up about, I was just trying to address the emerging misnomer ITT that the discussion is about whether or not musicians should be allowed to mix these things up (obv they should!).

Tim F, Thursday, 2 February 2012 22:54 (fourteen years ago)

I love New Pornographers and some of Bejar's songs are among my favorites, so I listened to Kaputt as soon as I could, and it read to me as a boring if impressive soft-rock genre exercise with no songs. Which of these songs should I listen to 10x in a row to get the point of this record?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:54 (fourteen years ago)

listen to the album track 1 through track 9 ten times in a row to get the point of the record imo

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:56 (fourteen years ago)

glad everyone enjoyed the poll, we'll see you next year

all right dawg, stay cool

jaymc, Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:58 (fourteen years ago)

"chinatown" and "blue eyes" aren't song-y enough for ppl?

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Friday, 3 February 2012 00:14 (fourteen years ago)

I'm cool with Destroyer winning, it's a good record. But once again, I like 3-4 a lot more than 1-2.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Friday, 3 February 2012 00:19 (fourteen years ago)

In any event,

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lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Friday, 3 February 2012 00:21 (fourteen years ago)

I was pulling for you, Canada, at least once we got past Katy B.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Friday, 3 February 2012 00:23 (fourteen years ago)

*high 5* to the other Alela Diane voter.

DavidM, Friday, 3 February 2012 00:31 (fourteen years ago)

so proud yo xp

flopson, Friday, 3 February 2012 00:31 (fourteen years ago)

20. Bon Iver — Bon Iver
17. M83 — Hurry Up We’re Dreaming
10. tUnE-yArDs — w h o k i l l
8. Pistol Annies — Hell on Heels
6. Gang Gang Dance — Eye Contact
5. Kate Bush — 50 Words For Snow
3. Katy B — On a Mission
2. PJ Harvey — Let England Shake

never listened to these, will never listen to these.

14. Kurt Vile — Smoke Ring For My Halo
12. EMA — Past Life Martyred Saints
7. DJ Quik — The Book of David
4. Beyonce — 4
1. Destroyer — Kaputt

like parts of these for assorted reasons but dont have strong feelings

16. Boy Better Know — Tropical 2
9. Uncle Acid and the Deadbeats — Blood Lust

will give these a shot

18. Nicolas Jaar — Space is Only Noise
13. Julianna Barwick — The Magic Place

enjoyed both - i think theyre overpraised but meritorious

19. Peaking Lights — 936 (514 points, 17 votes)
11. Tim Hecker — Ravedeath, 1972

voted for both of these. i feel like i have a lot of 'thoughts' about 936 in particular, kinda weirded out by how over the course of the year 'hey sparrow' has gone from having one mislabeled youtbue version of postcollegiate beardos on a rope bridge to having a legit video gorgeously shot that does the whole aping wes anderson aping french new wave thing. (its still a rad video tho gr8080 if yr readddding this) but also the perverse and wonderful remix album of '936' has kinda supplanted it in my memory so its dancier and droning and dense but maybe not

similarly i wish that hecker had gotten a mention for 'dropped pianos' because i ended up listening to that a lot more than 'ravedeath' like while im biking to work or walking around and stuff

15. Rustie — Glass Swords (557 points, 18 votes)

i actively dislike this record, like a lot, i feel like its the worst parts of ninja tune and thirtysomething (the tv show but 'updated for 2k12') and precocious high school music nerds all mixed into a messy sounding soup

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Friday, 3 February 2012 01:21 (fourteen years ago)

want to hear your 'thoughts' on 936, dude

also pretty into the remix 12"

flopson, Friday, 3 February 2012 01:24 (fourteen years ago)

just putting the full list here again so i can look at it

77. When Saints Go Machine — Konkylie (258 points, 10 votes, one first place vote)
76. Robag Wruhme — Thora Vukk (262 points, 8 votes)
75. Liturgy — Aesthethica (264 points, nine votes)
74. The Joy Formidable — The Big Roar (266 points, seven votes, one first place vote)
73. Jay-Z & Kanye West — Watch the Throne (266 points, 10 votes)
72. Barbara Panther — Barbara Panther (270 points, seven votes, two first place votes)
71. Toro y Moi - Underneath the Pine (271 points, nine votes)

(tie) 69. Wild Flag — Wild Flag (273 points, 10 votes)
(tie) 69. Low — C'Mon (273 points, 10 votes)
68. ILX Presents Lulu (276 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)
67. Veronica Falls - Veronica Falls (282 points, 11 votes)
66. Big K.R.I.T. - Return of 4Eva (288 points, 10 votes)
65. The Psychic Paramount - II (290 points, 9 votes)
64. Wolves in the Throne Room - Celestial Lineage (290 points, nine votes, one first place vote)
63. Austra - Feel it Break (290 points, ten votes, one first place vote)
62. Drake – Take Care (292 points, 8 votes, one first place vote)
61. Lykke Li – Wounded Rhymes (294 points, 10 votes)

60. James Ferraro — Far Side Virtual (295 points, 11 votes)
59. Perfume — JPN (298 points, 10 votes, two first place votes)
58. Grouper — Alien Observer/Dream Loss (304 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)
57. The War on Drugs — Slave Ambient (322 points, nine votes, one first place vote)
56. Danny Brown — XXX (323 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)
55. Mastodon — The Hunter (328 points, 10 votes)
54. Kendrick Lamar — Section.80 (337 points, 10 votes, one first place vote)
53. Laura Marling — A Creature I Don’t Know (342 points, 11 votes, one first place vote)
52. The Mountain Goats — All Eternals Deck (342 points, 12 votes)
51. Demdike Stare — Tryptych (347 points, 16 votes, one first place vote)

50. Hatchback — Zeus and Apollo (350 points, nine votes, two first place votes)
49. Moon Duo — Mazes (350 points, 12 votes)
48. Tom Waits — Bad As Me (352 points, 14 votes)
47. Clams Casino — Instrumentals (354 points, 12 votes)
46. Azari & III — Azari & III (358 points, 12 votes)
45. The Weeknd — House of Balloons (360 points, 10 votes, two first place votes)
44. Fucked Up — David Comes To Life (360 points, 13 votes, one first place vote)
43. Real Estate — Days (361 points, 11 votes, two first place votes)
42. Radiohead — King of Limbs (362 points, 13 votes)
41. Andy Stott — Passed Me By/We Stay Together (363 points, 13 votes)

40. Dawn Richard — The Prelude to a Tell Tale Heart (372 points, 11 votes)
39. Girls — Father, Son, Holy Ghost (374 points, 11 votes)
38. Junior Boys — It’s All True (375 points, 15 votes)
37. Death Grips — Ex-Military (382 points, 13 votes)
36. Holy Ghost! — Holy Ghost! (384 points, 13 votes, one first place vote)
35. Julia Holter — Tragedy (386 points, 14 votes, one first place vote)
34. Cut Copy — Zonoscope (392 points, 12 votes, one first place vote)
33. John Maus — We Must Become The Pitiless Censors of Ourselves (398 points, 14 votes, one first place vote)
32. Panda Bear — Tomboy (402 points, 13 votes)
31. Nguzunguzu — The Perfect Lullaby (404 points, 13 votes, 2 first place votes)

30. Ford & Lopatin — Channel Pressure (410 points, 14 votes)
29. Britney Spears — Femme Fatale (424 points, 13 votes, one first place vote)
28. Araabmuzik — Electronic Dream (445 points, 14 votes)
27. St. Vincent — Strange Mercy (469 points, 14 votes, one first place vote)
26. Oneohtrix Point Never — Replica (474 points, 17 votes, one first place vote)
25. Frank Ocean — Nostalgia, Ultra. (476 points, 12 votes, one first place vote)
24. Colin Stetson — New History Warfare Vol. 2: Judges (481 points, 13 votes, one first place vote)
23. E-40 — Revenue Retrievin: Overtime Shift/Graveyard Shift (484 points, 16 votes)
22. Lady Gaga — Born This Way (488 points, 14 votes, one first place vote)
21. Shabazz Palaces — Black Up (502 points, 17 votes)
20. Bon Iver — Bon Iver (512 points, 15 votes)
19. Peaking Lights — 936 (514 points, 17 votes)
18. Nicolas Jaar — Space is Only Noise (517 points, 19 votes, one first place vote)
17. M83 — Hurry Up We’re Dreaming (519 points, 21 votes, one first place vote)
16. Boy Better Know — Tropical 2 (548 points, 15 votes, 4 first place votes)
15. Rustie — Glass Swords (557 points, 18 votes)
14. Kurt Vile — Smoke Ring For My Halo (572 points, 16 votes, one first place vote)
13. Julianna Barwick — The Magic Place (583 points, 19 votes, two first place votes)
12. EMA — Past Life Martyred Saints (590 points, 18 votes, two first place votes)
11. Tim Hecker — Ravedeath, 1972 (597 points, 21 votes, one first place vote)
10. tUnE-yArDs — w h o k i l l (666 points, 20 votes, two first place votes)
9. Uncle Acid and the Deadbeats — Blood Lust (696 points, 19 votes, two first place votes
8. Pistol Annies — Hell on Heels (762 points, 19 votes, two first place votes)
7. DJ Quik — The Book of David (846 points, 26 votes, one first place vote)
6. Gang Gang Dance — Eye Contact (860 points, 29 votes, one first place vote)
5. Kate Bush — 50 Words For Snow (880 points, 29 votes, one first place vote)
4. Beyonce — 4 (1,089 points, 32 votes, three first place votes)
3. Katy B — On a Mission (1,288 points, 37 votes, one first place vote)
2. PJ Harvey — Let England Shake (1,311 points, 37 votes, seven first place votes)
1. Destroyer — Kaputt (1,355 points, 36 votes, 12 first place votes)

max, Friday, 3 February 2012 01:33 (fourteen years ago)

i actively dislike this record, like a lot, i feel like its the worst parts of ninja tune and thirtysomething (the tv show but 'updated for 2k12') and precocious high school music nerds all mixed into a messy sounding soup

― the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Thursday, February 2, 2012 3:21 PM (7 minutes ago)

dont get the thirtysomething ref but otm nonetheless

'hey sparrow' has gone from having one mislabeled youtbue version of postcollegiate beardos on a rope bridge to having a legit video gorgeously shot that does the whole aping wes anderson aping french new wave thing. (its still a rad video tho gr8080 if yr readddding this)

will check it out

had never listened to peaking lights or tim hecker before today, have now listened to each one twice.

1st track on peaking lights is my favorite but its all p dope.

tim hecker is totally awesome-- were dudes talking about this in an ambient/avant garde thread last year?

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 3 February 2012 01:34 (fourteen years ago)

favorite discovery from this list so far is definitely james ferarro

max, Friday, 3 February 2012 01:35 (fourteen years ago)

max otm

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 3 February 2012 01:36 (fourteen years ago)

will never understand what anyone gets out of Katy B

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 3 February 2012 01:36 (fourteen years ago)

want to hear your 'thoughts' on 936, dude

haha well its mostly that i think its really successful example of the sort of record lots of people have been making where it takes a bunch of sounds and themes and preoccupations that have been percolating in the underground and makes a conscious decision to incorporate these into a more rigorous/approachable song-based structure. like theres still a lot of murk and dissonance but like 'tiger eyes' is so much more propulsive and catchy than its other nnf ancestors yknow?

i mean if you listen to their earlier cassettes its really ambient, textural, dissonant. i really like that stuff but its interesting to see how much more effective the tracks on '936' are at communicating this mood of uncertainty and yearning compared to the earlier, more formless 'tracks'. i mean its not news that a band moves towards the msntrm as it 'matures' but it also kinda is?

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Friday, 3 February 2012 01:50 (fourteen years ago)

it's weird - i <3 the first two tracks on that Ferarro album but after that it's unlistenable for me.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 3 February 2012 01:51 (fourteen years ago)

dont get the thirtysomething ref but otm nonetheless

haha idk i just get this like smugly discerning cashmere turtleneck wearing vibe from the whole thing, the way he tries to pull it all together 'tastefully'

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Friday, 3 February 2012 01:55 (fourteen years ago)

should be noted that Rustie was the first cutty recommendation i did not enjoy

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 3 February 2012 01:59 (fourteen years ago)

It should go without saying, but the "problem" with critical championing of "indie-" versions of genres (R&B, metal) etc. over and above other music from those genres is not the music per se or the fact that it's being celebrated; rather, it's that so often the form and the intent of the celebration is the revalidation of the same values, over and over and over, as if the (let's call it) p4k mindset exists in a hall of mirrors wherein all it can see is refracted images of itself splayed endlessly along an infinitely receding horizon of vassal-genres.

― Tim F, Thursday, February 2, 2012 2:23 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, indie and rock audiences primarily like indie and rock music and tend to view other types of music through that lens. this is not a "problem". everybody's got a point of view, and everybody's point of view is limited in some way or another.

the tendency of indie & rock critics to dominate the discourse might be a problem, but it's better fought by presenting alternative voices than by sniping endlessly (tediously) at whatever indie & rock critics happen to enjoy.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 02:01 (fourteen years ago)

should be noted that Rustie was the first cutty recommendation i did not enjoy

haha the cutty rec makes me feel like i should give it another chance

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Friday, 3 February 2012 02:07 (fourteen years ago)

i think it's the best not not fun release ever--well i haven't heard all of them, but at the very least the best in the series of bleak, monotone female-fronted mellow psych projects (us girls, pocahaunted, zola jeez, la vamp, my estrogeneration comp etc.)

despite being a somewhat marginal sound (although more broad indie acts like vivian/dum dum girls definitely overlap aesthetically) i really felt like i was rooting for these groups because i consider the style to be one of the few that feel very uniquely contemporary. but it's also one that has, until now, never produced a masterpiece, at least in full length form.

like theres still a lot of murk and dissonance but like 'tiger eyes' is so much more propulsive and catchy than its other nnf ancestors yknow?

i know! i think there's an important caveat here though. there's a smallness to this microgenre that is at the centre of what's really unique about it, both in terms of production and performance: it's like the opposite of blaring horn arrangements and loud, confident singing, more about an "uncertainty and yearning" and hesitance--that i'm glad that the breakthrough album preserved. i think the reason it's such a relief is because it had been tempting to conclude that those were its weaknesses

flopson, Friday, 3 February 2012 02:16 (fourteen years ago)

xp 2 lamp re: peaking lights

flopson, Friday, 3 February 2012 02:16 (fourteen years ago)

I was just trying to address the emerging misnomer ITT that the discussion is about whether or not musicians should be allowed to mix these things up (obv they should!).

― Tim F, Thursday, February 2, 2012 2:54 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i wasn't raging against a "never cross the streams!" strawman. i was critiquing the tendency of some critics and fans to grouse when supposedly watered-down versions of genres like R&B break through into rock & indie consciousness. this sort of grousing typically and conveniently ignores the fact that the perceived watered-down-ness of an artist like frank ocean is entirely a product of perspective.

such criticisms often seem built around the assumption that such music can only be "properly" evaluated from a within an R&B-focused context. the thinking seems to be that if dedicated R&B fans and critics don't rally around it too, validating the acclaim it's received outside the genre, then there must something wrong with both the music and with the tendency of indie/rock ppl to celebrate it. we see the same thing in metalhead complaints about the popular acclaim accorded nigel hipster interlopers like the sword and liturgy.

this sort of response is understandable, but tiresome, and it ignores the fact that music can be appreciated in ways that don't necessarily square with the aesthetics of its ostensible genre.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 02:20 (fourteen years ago)

anyway, i voted for only three of the top ten finishers (tune yards, uncle acid and PJH). should have voted for DJ quik, but slept. destroyer gets no love. have heard it couple times, but don't get the acclaim. it's not horrible, just not my thing. like bon iver and girls. okay, well, girls is horrible. destroyer's at least better than that.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 02:24 (fourteen years ago)

framing the argument as "watered-down" R&B vs. real R&B is kind of strawmannish fyi

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 02:27 (fourteen years ago)

contenderizer shiftin the goalposts imo

flopson, Friday, 3 February 2012 02:28 (fourteen years ago)

framing the argument as "watered-down" R&B vs. real R&B is kind of strawmannish fyi

it might be if i were just making that dichotomy up, but i'm trying to respond honestly to what's been said ITT.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 02:32 (fourteen years ago)

i really felt like i was rooting for these groups because i consider the style to be one of the few that feel very uniquely contemporary

yes, totally! although i think its... telling that the approach a lot of these labels/artists have taken has been p widely appropriated throughout 'indie'.

yr post is really good but i wanted to add that i think the increased interest in dance and more purely 'electronic' styles was a way for these groups to reconcile the production/performance ideal w/a more song-based approach

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Friday, 3 February 2012 02:33 (fourteen years ago)

nobody else actually phrased it in such a loaded, simplistic way, though, and after Tim put it in much more nuanced and precise way you just dragged the whole conversation back into the most reductive and misleading terms possible (xpost)

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 02:35 (fourteen years ago)

^^

flopson, Friday, 3 February 2012 02:36 (fourteen years ago)

xposts!

contenderizer's argument is kind of the flipside of mine upthread - put them together and you arrive at the situation where *nobody* gets to dominate and dictate to others what the value of a piece of music is. Which seems right to me.

Re the Not Not Fun axis: one release that got completely slept on (came out in December iirc, didn't help its cause) is the Sapphire Slows EP. 936 might still be my favourite NNF release of 2011 but True Breath is my #2.

The other big avant-accessible label this year was Spectrum Spools, but I guess they didn't have a release that everyone got passionate about and maybe they're just less visible than NNF. I did give a bunch of points to the Fabric album, which helped it break into the top 300.

two lights crew (seandalai), Friday, 3 February 2012 02:37 (fourteen years ago)

I completely agree with what Tim said upthread btw.

two lights crew (seandalai), Friday, 3 February 2012 02:38 (fourteen years ago)

i checked out the sapphire slows at your recommendaysh iirc. it was cool, more shimmering and logic system than the earthy & dubby peaking lights vibe. definitely cool

flopson, Friday, 3 February 2012 02:40 (fourteen years ago)

w/each successive release i ended up liking spectrum spools less, there was such a monotony of vision to the whole thing that it cheapened even the releases i really liked - container, forma - it hilighted how fadish and current the whole synth haze stuff has been? i mean i really like the no ufos rerelease but its not really making the same gesture '936' is

i thought the jonas reinhardt release on nnf was superb but suffered from the same lack of distinction

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Friday, 3 February 2012 02:41 (fourteen years ago)

agree about 2011 synth boom & bust

flopson, Friday, 3 February 2012 02:45 (fourteen years ago)

contenderizer's argument is kind of the flipside of mine upthread - put them together and you arrive at the situation where *nobody* gets to dominate and dictate to others what the value of a piece of music is. Which seems right to me.

I agree with this, and further I also think an important part of this process is that people actually fess up to their listening strategies, and say (where necessary) "I'm listening to this through X ears".

I tend to apply dance music biases to a lot of non-dance music, but I like to think that when I do so I will admit as much, and try to position it as "an approach" that captures only a small part of the experience of the music.

Where this process gets pernicious is the cases where it's unacknowleged, where people cross-apply biases and then deny that this is what they're doing because they sincerely believe that the biases they're applying should be the truth of every genre (as if they're even "the truth" of one!).

Tim F, Friday, 3 February 2012 02:46 (fourteen years ago)

Ha, I think I've heard the Jonas Reinhardt but not sure now. It's hard to keep up!

I agree that Spectrum Spools didn't manage to break out in the way NNF did. Both labels have an identifiable aesthetic that risks repetitiveness - with some NNF releases like the Xander Harris I had a definite feeling it was adding nothing new - but yeah, NNF has better curation, or they've been around longer, or it's a more flexible aesthetic, dunno really but they seem to be better at what they do.

two lights crew (seandalai), Friday, 3 February 2012 02:49 (fourteen years ago)

weyes blood/jonas r would have been my nnf picks for the year. don't mind peaking lights but got a little tired of it quite quickly

pun crock (electricsound), Friday, 3 February 2012 02:49 (fourteen years ago)

the only reason i still dont listen to peaking lights all the time is cause my roommate got sick of it

flopson, Friday, 3 February 2012 02:53 (fourteen years ago)

i like that peaking lights record but i always forget i'm listening to it about halfway through. think i'd dig a remixed version though

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Friday, 3 February 2012 03:16 (fourteen years ago)

Btw, I take no shortage of pride in the fact that the top 5 placing rap albums were all from the west coast.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Friday, 3 February 2012 03:54 (fourteen years ago)

Where this process gets pernicious is the cases where it's unacknowleged, where people cross-apply biases and then deny that this is what they're doing because they sincerely believe that the biases they're applying should be the truth of every genre (as if they're even "the truth" of one!).

― Tim F, Thursday, February 2, 2012 6:46 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, this is OTM. when critics who don't ordinarily fw a genre pick some random crossover attempt to champion as the best it can offer - or worse yet, as "transcending" the genre - it's annoying as hell.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:01 (fourteen years ago)

EVERYONE WHO VOTED FOR DESTROYER

KILL YOUR WORTHLESS SELVES

AND NEVER LOOK ME IN THE EYE AGAIN

STUPID CUNTS NEED TO GET SOME TASTE

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:15 (fourteen years ago)

NO EXCUSES NO EXCEPTIONS

EVERYONE WHO WAS PREVIOUSLY AN ALLY OF MINE BUT WHO EXPRESSED APPRECIATION FOR THAT PIECE OF SHIT, I AM DISAPPOINTED IN YOU

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:16 (fourteen years ago)

lol

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:18 (fourteen years ago)

hi lex

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:20 (fourteen years ago)

YOU LIKE DESTROYER

THEREFORE YOUR OPINIONS ARE NULL AND VOID

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:21 (fourteen years ago)

#1 album

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:24 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/1b6qp.png

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:27 (fourteen years ago)

YOUR RED FINGER IS NULL AND VOID

FUCKING DESTROYER

YOU BORING BORING INDIE CUNTS

GET THAT SHIT OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM BY NEXT YEAR

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:29 (fourteen years ago)

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN LIVE WITH YOURSELVES

I PITY YOU

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:30 (fourteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/cLzjy.jpg

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:31 (fourteen years ago)

http://knightnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/3-13-11jorts.jpg

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:32 (fourteen years ago)

Lex I want to apologize for not listening to LES til after my ballot was cast. If I had listened to it beforehand I wouldve voted it #1 and it would've placed higher than Destroyer.

Drugs A. Money, Friday, 3 February 2012 04:32 (fourteen years ago)

THE MORAL VICTORY CONFIRMED

I CAN SLEEP NOW

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:34 (fourteen years ago)

have a good night dude

Drugs A. Money, Friday, 3 February 2012 04:34 (fourteen years ago)

yeah uh maybe this could be a general take it down a notch moment yall

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:35 (fourteen years ago)

and, like this insubstantial pageant faded, leave not a track behind (xp)

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:36 (fourteen years ago)

yeah uh maybe this could be a general take it down a notch moment yall

― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, February 2, 2012 11:35 PM (1 minute ago)

lex is just drunk and messin around man, no one's feelings are hurt or anything

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:37 (fourteen years ago)

Lex, i will be your ally.
fellow Canadian be damned - i think he sings stupidly.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:38 (fourteen years ago)

this list hurt my feelings

very disappointed in u guyz

DO NOT CALL (The Brainwasher), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:39 (fourteen years ago)

oh loool i meant that jorts img for the kevin smith thread

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:41 (fourteen years ago)

thx for the hint k3v i get so confused sometimes

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:41 (fourteen years ago)

LOLOLOLOL Lamp!

Drugs A. Money, Friday, 3 February 2012 04:42 (fourteen years ago)

I am very happy I decided to check this thread tonight!

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 3 February 2012 04:43 (fourteen years ago)

lmao ally

max, Friday, 3 February 2012 04:43 (fourteen years ago)

I agree with this, and further I also think an important part of this process is that people actually fess up to their listening strategies, and say (where necessary) "I'm listening to this through X ears".

I was thinking along these lines as I browsed the thread earlier in the evening, wondering why so many records in the list didn't strike me, and I think one of the main things that prevents me from being taken in by something is the sense that it's aesthetically unsure of itself, or middling, or half-assed, or somehow meek in its presentation. I think this is actually *always* something that's bothered me about certain strains of indie, and although it feels somewhat fascistic to articulate, I think I gravitate to music that sounds sure of itself and confident in its aesthetic choices.

I would rather hear the single-minded and masterful articulation of an aesthetic that doesn't quite make sense to me than someone dabbling in a field I ostensibly like but in a sort of unsure, gently exploratory manner. That's something that immediately turned me off to Nicolas Jaar, and I find it interesting/funny that Lex so vehemently criticizes Destroyer for being "meek" upthread yet is a big fan of Nicolas Jaar, who to me so *clearly* comes off the same way in his music--tentative, noncommital, afraid to lean into it. Music like this tries my patience, and at my worst almost offends me in that it asks me to come along with it even though it doesn't know where it's going. "Wait, we're miles into these dark woods and you have no idea where the fuck we are and never did?!"

I almost said something like "I miss music being more balls-out virtuosic", but that's not quite right. I mean, I do think basic technical fluency (and I'm talking songwriting-wise as well as instrument-wise) is something that sooooo many hyped musicians today just totally lack; in fact, as much as I enjoyed the Destroyer record, one of the main things that makes all those Steely Dan and Roxy Music comparisons ring false is that those older bands could really freaking PLAY, but not in an ostentatiously virtuosic manner so much as with a fluency that was so effortless it was nearly invisible.

This spreads to electronic music, too, in a way that I need to focus harder to be able to articulate. But when I think of my favorite producers, there's a sense of self-assuredness to their tracks, a feeling of authority and a sense that they know what the hell they're doing with their hardware/software--in a way that allows them to trascend it, sort of. I don't want to hear someone tinkering, and the Jaar is too close to that for me to be able to feel it. Granted, I should give it more of an effort given how many people whose taste I admire that like it, but that sense of pensiveness put me off immediately.

Clarke B., Friday, 3 February 2012 04:44 (fourteen years ago)

how long did you spend looking for a picture of bejar with maracas before you gave up and went w/ the tambourine photo

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 3 February 2012 05:10 (fourteen years ago)

daniel-bejar-destroyer-performing-with-maraca-and-beer

omar little, Friday, 3 February 2012 05:13 (fourteen years ago)

also, I just listened to the Nguzunguzu remix of that Ayshay EP and O_O

just listened and YES!

original bgm, Friday, 3 February 2012 05:14 (fourteen years ago)

That looks like a piece of fruit to me.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 3 February 2012 05:19 (fourteen years ago)

one of those is the impostor Dan Bejar

Moodles, Friday, 3 February 2012 05:20 (fourteen years ago)

I was thinking along these lines as I browsed the thread earlier in the evening, wondering why so many records in the list didn't strike me, and I think one of the main things that prevents me from being taken in by something is the sense that it's aesthetically unsure of itself, or middling, or half-assed, or somehow meek in its presentation. I think this is actually *always* something that's bothered me about certain strains of indie...

― Clarke B., Thursday, February 2, 2012 8:44 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's an interesting point, especially as relates to contemporary indie culture, which often seems organized around a fundamental thread of meekness & uncertainty. you're absolutely right that there's certain strain of indie that prizes qualities like prettiness, softness, nostalgic regret, wounded sensitivity, self-doubt, defensive irony, poignant failure and the holiness of human frailty. it's music for the painfully self-aware. i'll go a little further, to suggest that this is not a trivial thing, merely one thread among many. imo, it's one of the core qualities that defines what we've come in the 21st century to call indie as a genre.

we can perhaps reduce it to "i was not made for these times", both the phrase and the song: an insistence that the world is too much, too harsh, that the only possible response is to turn away and inward. this sensibility unifies much of the music that contemporary indie congeals around: the beach boys, simon & garfunkel, nick drake, arthur russell, the pastels, sebadoh, belle & sebastian, cat power, godspeed you! black emperor, etc.

like, to appreciate it properly, you have to be willing to accept confusion, questioning and passive uncertainty as virtues of a sort - or at least as the foundations of a valid aesthetic. given that american indie is arguably a culture of white privilege, this sentimentalizing of powerless passivity raises some interesting questions, but that's probably grist for another thread...

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 05:43 (fourteen years ago)

I believe those to be pretty big generalizations and I don't know what value there is in dwelling on them.

timellison, Friday, 3 February 2012 05:54 (fourteen years ago)

oh yeah, generalizing like crazy. but i've been indie since forever, and these are the things i think abt.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 06:01 (fourteen years ago)

add the smifs and built to spill to the list above. and neil young. and the more sensitive sides of bowie and the VU. and

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 06:04 (fourteen years ago)

that's an interesting point, especially as relates to contemporary indie culture, which often seems organized around a fundamental thread of meekness & uncertainty. you're absolutely right that there's certain strain of indie that prizes qualities like prettiness, softness, nostalgic regret, wounded sensitivity, self-doubt, defensive irony, poignant failure and the holiness of human frailty. it's music for the painfully self-aware. i'll go a little further, to suggest that this is not a trivial thing, merely one thread among many. imo, it's one of the core qualities that defines what we've come in the 21st century to call indie as a genre.

we can perhaps reduce it to "i was not made for these times", both the phrase and the song: an insistence that the world is too much, too harsh, that the only possible response is to turn away and inward. this sensibility unifies much of the music that contemporary indie congeals around: the beach boys, simon & garfunkel, nick drake, arthur russell, the pastels, sebadoh, belle & sebastian, cat power, godspeed you! black emperor, etc.

like, to appreciate it properly, you have to be willing to accept confusion, questioning and passive uncertainty as virtues of a sort - or at least as the foundations of a valid aesthetic. given that american indie is arguably a culture of white privilege, this sentimentalizing of powerless passivity raises some interesting questions, but that's probably grist for another thread...

― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Friday, February 3, 2012 12:43 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I really like the way you articulated this. I mean, I can be painfully self-aware, and I sometimes feel "I wasn't made for these times", and I don't even feel it's necessarily bad to engage with those sorts of feelings in artistic endeavors. But sometimes I can't help but feeling as if certain strains of indie (and, to tie in another realm, contemporary fiction for sure) straight-up fetishize things like "the holiness (good word for how this comes across) of human frailty" and "wounded sensitivity"--and that's where I get lost. The "ears through which I'm listening" (as Tim put it) want to transcend this "all-too-human"-ness, to immerse myself in something greater, or for God's sake at least something more abstract and ineffable than my species' sad little problems. Music can do *so* much more than that, but I feel like so much of the indie you describe is content to just stop there and wallow. I mean, there's a video of a guy on YouTube playing "The Trooper" by Iron Maiden (amazingly fluently) on a harp. Is anybody really ever going to be inspired to do that with a tUnE-yArDs song or a Girls song or even a Destroyer song?

Clarke B., Friday, 3 February 2012 06:05 (fourteen years ago)

Funny, I'm just listening to The Age of Adz for the first time right now and however someone might fit that into some kind of paradigm of indie personality, it is in no way "aesthetically unsure of itself, or middling, or half-assed." Imo, that's also true in a big way of Have One on Me, which is the indie record I've liked most from the last couple of years.

timellison, Friday, 3 February 2012 06:07 (fourteen years ago)

I'm not happy with how general my statements are; they feel right to me and they ring true, but I need to dig more and substantiate them better. I'm just curious to see if others at least feel the way I do on a broad level...

Clarke B., Friday, 3 February 2012 06:09 (fourteen years ago)

to tie in another realm, contemporary fiction for sure

OTM, and that's why i went out of my way to describe indie as a culture and not just as a musical genre. it's evident in literature (the mcsweenyizing of contemporary fiction), film (the graduate and its discontents), even in interior design (put a bird on it).

i will, however, defend the straight-up fucking badassness of tune yards. on a technical level, what she's doing is as impressive as hell, and her POV is much stronger and more personal than ppl sometimes give her credit for.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 06:13 (fourteen years ago)

you're absolutely right that there's certain strain of indie that prizes qualities like prettiness, softness, nostalgic regret, wounded sensitivity, self-doubt, defensive irony, poignant failure and the holiness of human frailty. it's music for the painfully self-aware. i'll go a little further, to suggest that this is not a trivial thing, merely one thread among many. imo, it's one of the core qualities that defines what we've come in the 21st century to call indie as a genre.

so its both a 'certain strain' and a 'core quality' that defines the entire genre? and im not really convinced by this list of qualities, grouped together this way, that it really even describes music for the 'painfully self-aware', nor that they would be the primary (only?) audience for such music. and the list of artists you identify w/this sensibility seem to... not have that much to do w/these qualities, on the whole.

i mean i guess its an interesting way of describing what you see/what you get out of this music but i dont think it works v well as a more objective description of contemp american indie, really

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Friday, 3 February 2012 06:14 (fourteen years ago)

Funny, I'm just listening to The Age of Adz for the first time right now and however someone might fit that into some kind of paradigm of indie personality, it is in no way "aesthetically unsure of itself, or middling, or half-assed." Imo, that's also true in a big way of Have One on Me, which is the indie record I've liked most from the last couple of years.

― timellison, Thursday, February 2, 2012 10:07 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well yeah, indie is a very big tent at this point. joanna newsom and sufjan stevens are important artists because they exemplify the qualities i'm talking about almost perfectly, and they do so without sacrificing strength of character and clarity of artistic vision. i'm not trying to say that indie's fetishizing of weakness is a bad thing, though it does often strike me as cloying. at its best (arthur russell, for instance), this kind of uncertainty can be almost overwhelmingly beautiful, and it speaks to an important and too often denigrated part of the human condition.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 06:23 (fourteen years ago)

contenderizer:

jaar pox

wouh
a time for us
love you gotta lose again
marks
the bees - winter rose (nicolas jaar remix)
ellen allien - flashy flashy (nicolas jaar remix)
russian dolls
el bandido
space is only noise if you can see
no regular play - owe me (nicolas jaar remix)

― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend)

Oh this list is amazing Lex. The album didn't really made an impression on me and there's still some of his stuff that doesn't really vibe with me (too lethargic for my taste sometimes) but when he hits the spot he's really good and your POX is a great example of him at his prime.

I'd add to the list the yet unreleased 'With Just One Glance You' and A1 of his Darkside side-project.

Moka, Friday, 3 February 2012 06:25 (fourteen years ago)

Can I double-emphasise the absolute importance of "Her String", Jaar's track as part of Clown N Sunset Collective.

Tim F, Friday, 3 February 2012 06:27 (fourteen years ago)

so its both a 'certain strain' and a 'core quality' that defines the entire genre? and im not really convinced by this list of qualities, grouped together this way, that it really even describes music for the 'painfully self-aware', nor that they would be the primary (only?) audience for such music. and the list of artists you identify w/this sensibility seem to... not have that much to do w/these qualities, on the whole.

well, it's all pretty subjective, obviously. i'm speaking of the semblance of meaning in culture from where i stand, and i hardly imagine that everyone will share my perspective.

anyway, yeah, i'd say that this "certain strain" is a "core quality". i tried to clarify by saying that the latter point (mine) extends the former (clarke's), but maybe that part got lost in the mail.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 06:28 (fourteen years ago)

Also I was listening to the Ayshay music loud in the afternoon and my neighbor gave me the weirdest look when I bumped into her in the elevator. She must have thought I was into black magic and shit.

Moka, Friday, 3 February 2012 06:28 (fourteen years ago)

Lamp, I don't know if I'd call it so much music *for* the painfully self-aware as music *by* the painfully self-aware, as in the sense that I get when listening to lots of indie in this realm is that they're unsure of themselves--but my original post was attempting to speak more to the music itself than to the emotional framework and lyrical thrust. This is going to come across as blatantly Carduccian, but so many indie bands just cannot convincingly play together in any sort of energizing, galvanizing way. It's a distortion of the original and once-liberating idea that you don't have to be a virtuoso to pick up an instrument and play--sure you don't, but having a sense of the way music works helps. The best punk bands weren't good *because* they were technically non-proficient, they were good in spite of it--because they were musically inclined and could churn up a convincing and energizing racket. There's a lot of music out there that just feels like it doesn't work somehow on some very fundamental level.

Clarke B., Friday, 3 February 2012 06:29 (fourteen years ago)

joanna newsom and sufjan stevens are important artists because they exemplify the qualities i'm talking about almost perfectly, and they do so without sacrificing strength of character and clarity of artistic vision.

Although I don't really like either of these artists, it's not for the reasons I tried to articulate above, and I grant that each of them do have fairly developed and confident and clear aesthetic visions--the fact of which I admire, if not the way it plays out in their music. (I find Newsom too ornate, plus I recoil at her voice; Sufjan is similarly too baroque for me, and his aesthetic I just cannot feel or identify with.)

Clarke B., Friday, 3 February 2012 06:32 (fourteen years ago)

could you cite some examples of "unconvincing indie"

omar little, Friday, 3 February 2012 06:33 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, i'm not really in love with either, though i do respect their ambition, focus and mastery of craft. had prolonged moments with both illinoise and milk-eyed mender, but lost interest quickly.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 06:35 (fourteen years ago)

Can I double-emphasise the absolute importance of "Her String", Jaar's track as part of Clown N Sunset Collective.

― Tim F

Ah yes this is also amazing.

Moka, Friday, 3 February 2012 06:46 (fourteen years ago)

well, it's all pretty subjective, obviously. i'm speaking of the semblance of meaning in culture from where i stand, and i hardly imagine that everyone will share my perspective.

i guess my 'problem' is that even as a subjective interpretation of indie's dominant aesthetic is contradictory and flawed. i mean i think even the idea of the music/the artists/the audience being 'painfully self-aware' is p fraught as a way of connecting all these qualities together? also the reading of these qualities as 'weak' bothers me

This is going to come across as blatantly Carduccian, but so many indie bands just cannot convincingly play together in any sort of energizing, galvanizing way.

enh

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Friday, 3 February 2012 06:46 (fourteen years ago)

Jaar is one of those 50/50 artists for me in which I hate half of what he does and love the other half. I have high hopes that he'll win me completely over in a couple of years.

Moka, Friday, 3 February 2012 06:47 (fourteen years ago)

simon reynolds beat happening

Like many of our indie bands, Beat Happening use incompetence as a springboard to glory ... [T]he way they've been recorded captures the sounds of the music being made - the creak of the strings and plectrum, the rustle of percussion. Voices are creased, sometimes they fail. My friend CHris says this sort of thing is important because when you can hear the group struggling with instruments they've yet to master, when you can hear the concentration, you know they care. Fluency means less feeling, because it's the result of rehearsal.

flopson, Friday, 3 February 2012 07:01 (fourteen years ago)

That paragraph is all sorts of ridiculous...

"The way they've been recorded captures the sounds of the music being made - the creak of the strings and plectrum, the rustle of percussion." As if technically competent music doesn't feature things like, well, the sounds that instruments make when played?

"Fluency means less feeling, because it's the result of rehearsal." That's like saying literature better conveys feeling when it's written in a language that the writer is barely competent in and is not pre-meditated at all.

I dunno, I'm sure listening to really amateurish music once provided some thrills because there was so little out there like it; it must have felt bracing and exciting, like some sort of act of voyeurism to listen to it. The idea that someone had the audacity to lay something so raw and amateurish to tape and release it undoubtedly carried a lot of potency before it ossified into an aesthetic of its own and spawned a million crappy bedroom recordings...

Clarke B., Friday, 3 February 2012 07:19 (fourteen years ago)

I've often read about you being unhappy with a lot of current music...

I think if you listen to any great album—whether it be a singer/songwriter from the ’60s, Leonard Cohen, "Metal Box" by PiL, the work of Ian Curtis, or even Meatloaf for God's sake, without any nostalgia, look at them actually as their work, look at the quality of the writing, the intensity of the production, the freeness of investigating sonic atmospheres... I just can't hear that nowadays. Perhaps I'm not hearing the right bands, but that means there's something drastically wrong with the media not supporting people with interesting ideas. I think there are great songs that have been written [in the past] that wouldn't get through [now].

cock chirea, Friday, 3 February 2012 07:26 (fourteen years ago)

that's a geoff barrow quote, btw

cock chirea, Friday, 3 February 2012 07:27 (fourteen years ago)

maybe u just don't get the vibe of the paragraph xp

i think there was and is a lot more to it than novelty or thrilling obscurity, including the exact thing described in the last sentence

flopson, Friday, 3 February 2012 07:31 (fourteen years ago)

i mean i think even the idea of the music/the artists/the audience being 'painfully self-aware' is p fraught as a way of connecting all these qualities together?

well, to the extent that i'm defining an important thread in contemporary indie as the endpoint of a line drawn from "i was not made for this world" - through the likes of nick drake, bowie's "quicksand" and the smiths - up to sebadoh, built to spill, cat power, elliott smith, NMH, belle & sebastian, and sufjan stevens, it seems appropriate to speak of the difficulty of doubtful self-awareness. the difficulty of smart, youthful, and often oversensitive self-awareness, not to put too find a point on it. i think that aspects of this core sensibility stretch out to encompass lots of other artists who aren't so easily or completely defined by it, even the sorts of non-indie artists that indies are often attracted to. there's also the cinema (wes anderson) and literature (catcher in the rye) that runs parallel to this, as mentioned above.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 07:32 (fourteen years ago)

"find" = "fine"

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 07:44 (fourteen years ago)

just got around to the results after being out most of the day. not too thrilled with the #1 but this is still a better and more interesting albums list than most EOY lists i saw. thanks to all who organized!

Prince Rebus (donna rouge), Friday, 3 February 2012 07:48 (fourteen years ago)

^yeah that seems right. I was v happy with the whole thing until, well...but even so, great great list!

Today is Cocaine's Birthday! (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 3 February 2012 07:51 (fourteen years ago)

you know what was a fantastic 2011 album? quilt s/t mexican summer

flopson, Friday, 3 February 2012 07:54 (fourteen years ago)

I've still never heard a note of Destroyer, maybe it's finally time for me to give him a listen.

I love the fact that "Ravedeath, 1972" has done well in so many year-end polls. I didn't expect it to finish so high on ILM though ... how did that happen? I started a Tim Hecker thread seven years ago and it still only has about 100 posts on it. There were a lot more avant garde/experimental albums on the poll than in past years, so I guess that (partly) explains it.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 3 February 2012 08:44 (fourteen years ago)

Eleanoora Rosenholm was on my ballot, thanks solely to hearing her several times in outloud. Wish she would've cracked the top 77, but oh wells.

For what it's worth, Eleanoora Rosenholm is the name of the band, not the lead singer. IIRC "Eleanoora Rosenholm" is a fictional 1920 mass murderer who appears in their lyrics, or something like that.

Tuomas, Friday, 3 February 2012 08:54 (fourteen years ago)

I am kind of suspicious of these poll results

corportate/Illuminati controlled (crüt), Friday, 3 February 2012 09:14 (fourteen years ago)

I like how "shook" is being illustrated with a picture of a dorky guy drinking beer alone is his bedroom. Very apt.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 February 2012 09:16 (fourteen years ago)

finally caught up with this thread. so glad Destroyer won, as I haven't loved and played a new album so much for years.

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 3 February 2012 09:37 (fourteen years ago)

whereas I've listened to the PJ album one and a half times.

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 3 February 2012 09:40 (fourteen years ago)

I should point out that Sound of Silver won the ILM poll in 2007 and that's clearly a rock record.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 February 2012 09:50 (fourteen years ago)

incompetence as a springboard to glory

STUPIDITY THAT NEEDS TO STFU

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 3 February 2012 09:56 (fourteen years ago)

Anyway, back to the most important thing. A ROCK ALBUM FINALLY WON OUR POLL! lol it rocks about as hard as a single gym sock in a dryer full of towels. But, technically, it's the work of a WHITE MALE WHO PLAYS MULTIPLE INSTRUMENTS PROFICIENTLY AND HAS A BEARD.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, February 2, 2012 9:59 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I should point out that Sound of Silver won the ILM poll in 2007 and that's clearly a rock record.

― Matt DC, Friday, February 3, 2012 9:50 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Rock music - the work of a WHITE MALE WHO PLAYS MULTIPLE INSTRUMENTS PROFICIENTLY AND HAS A BEARD?

Les Tressle (useless chamber), Friday, 3 February 2012 10:00 (fourteen years ago)

Anyway the rest of the top 10 is pretty great - I should probably give Uncle Acid another go. So stoked that Katy B finished so high.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 February 2012 10:01 (fourteen years ago)

I suppose the one advantage of Destroyer winning is that both the 'ARGH YOU CLOTH-EARED CUNTS' crew and the the 'waaah why aren't more people respecting this widely-acclaimed indie dude?' crew get the opportunity to be simultaneously butthurt.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 February 2012 10:04 (fourteen years ago)

The top six range from 'okayish' to 'pretty good' for me - I think I had GGD and Kate Bush low down in my ballot because both had some really great moments. I feel I should revisit 4, I remember liking bits of it on first listen but it didn't leave much of an impression. Also Destroyer's Rubies>>>Kaputt.

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 3 February 2012 10:43 (fourteen years ago)

Own on CD: Robag Wruhme, Laura Marling, Tom Waits, Azari & III, Radiohead, Cut Copy (bit of a dud purchase though), Panda Bear, Oneohtrix Point Never, Nicolas Jaar, tune-yards, Katy B, PJ Harvey.

Heard in full, like: When Saints Go Machine, War On Drugs, Nguzungzu, Lady Gaga (well, bits of it at least), Rustie, Beyonce, Destroyer.

Heard in full, neutral: Lykke Li, The Weeknd, Ford & Lopatin, Bon Iver, M83.

Heard in full, dislike: Low, Frank Ocean.

Heard in part, like: ILX presents Lulu, Drake, Junior Boys.

Heard in part, neutral: Barbara Panther, Toro y Moi, Austra, James Ferraro, John Maus, Britney Spears, St Vincent.

Heard in part, dislike: Liturgy, Joy Formidable, Jay-Z/Kanye, Kurt Vile, EMA, Tim Hecker, Gang Gang Dance.

Never heard: 33.

mike t-diva, Friday, 3 February 2012 10:53 (fourteen years ago)

I get pissed at the reductiveness of "indie" here, I'd like to see the term entirely discarded, "DIY pop" / "DIY rock" so much better sums up what indiepop and indie rock are/shd be about, and makes mislabelling look stoopid.

People interpreting 'visible straining' as some kind of authenticity? That's bullshit! This is amateur pop music, if anything that should be interpreted as 'you can do this too, and you should'. It's a political aesthetic, and it's liberating.

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Friday, 3 February 2012 11:37 (fourteen years ago)

Eleanoora Rosenholm = a great record, I only heard it after Christmas when emil.y got it on teh vinyls, if I'd heard it before I think it'd have been in my 25.

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Friday, 3 February 2012 11:37 (fourteen years ago)

I'd like to see the term entirely discarded, "DIY pop" / "DIY rock" so much better sums up what indiepop and indie rock are/shd be about

yeah, it's certainly not like ppl get defensive about what does or doesn't qualify as 'DIY' so it should be plain sailing

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Friday, 3 February 2012 11:43 (fourteen years ago)

Notforprofitpop

Cragenham Craig (Craigo Boingo), Friday, 3 February 2012 11:45 (fourteen years ago)

Putting up shelves is marginally more exciting than most of the music so I feel DIY is being done a disservice.

I think when you've released as many records as someone like Destroyer has you can't sensibly be called an amateur any more, even if you still sound amateurish. At some point it stops being democratic and just starts being plain lacking in talent.

Matt DC, Friday, 3 February 2012 11:48 (fourteen years ago)

The Lex took it well I see

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 3 February 2012 12:09 (fourteen years ago)

had another listen to Destroyer and i dont get how its so loved but there's nothing to hate really. I assume the hate comes from the hype and its placings in other EOY polls?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 3 February 2012 12:10 (fourteen years ago)

i would like to publicly state, now that i am sober, that i rescind NOTHING of what i said re: destroyer. so many posters have disappointed me on this matter.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 3 February 2012 12:12 (fourteen years ago)

Something that struck me about the conversation upthread with Contenderizer is how indie is being framed in terms of frailty, self awareness, uncertainty etc... because other than a handful of key examples (The Smiths, Belle & Sebastian), these tropes seem to be peculiar to indie's post-1998 US strand, whereas it's not necessarily a default in the UK. In fact one of the traditional complaints about UK indie is how bolshy and self assured many of these bands are compared to the quality of their actual output. It makes sense that it's Belle & Sebastian who are the go-to British band to soundtrack US indie filmmakers' movies.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Friday, 3 February 2012 12:16 (fourteen years ago)

Just as well the SB option was removed in time for this poll otherwise it may have been carnage.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Friday, 3 February 2012 12:16 (fourteen years ago)

because other than a handful of key examples (The Smiths, Belle & Sebastian), these tropes seem to be peculiar to indie's post-1998 US strand, whereas it's not necessarily a default in the UK

It certainly was once upon a time in the C86 tweepop era.

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Friday, 3 February 2012 12:22 (fourteen years ago)

that's a point - i'm not so familiar with 80s indie. once you get to the nineties, you can't really call the Mondays, Oasis, the Libertines or whoever "self-aware" or "frail".

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Friday, 3 February 2012 12:24 (fourteen years ago)

I mean, sure there are probably dozens of examples of fey indie bands from the UK, but it's not the default aesthetic, whereas according to posts made upthread, it's come to define a certain stream of modern US thinking.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Friday, 3 February 2012 12:28 (fourteen years ago)

It certainly was once upon a time in the C86 tweepop era.

Yeah my impression of the '80s is that it was completely the other way around - the US indie scene of that era seemed to be a lot more noisy/rocking in comparison, more macho even.

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 3 February 2012 12:30 (fourteen years ago)

A lot of what I'd been trying to say upthread about the indiefication of other genres and the dominance of these was expressed much better in Tim F's last few posts.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Friday, 3 February 2012 12:42 (fourteen years ago)

I'd say that's broadly true, Gavin, but I'm not trying to stan for the whole SST aesthetic either. I suppose, if anything, I'm valorizing a sort of pre-indie sensibility. As far as Craig's comments above re: DIY, I can again see how that's a liberating thing, how it operates politically, but the problem with politicizing art objects is that you're in danger of sacrificing your ability being able to approach them in a more unadornedly aesthetic light. DIY allows worthwhile voices to be heard that may not have reached an audience before, but when the feeble-ness and "hearing the stitching" (home sewing/etsy pun fully intended) aspect becomes fetishized, becomes the whole point, that's where I get lost. Again, going back to Tim's initial comment that sparked me thinking about this, we should be able to admit when we're "hearing with X ears" that are getting off on the politically liberating aspect of the music, and not stretch/distort it to say that "rehearsal makes for dead art" as that SR/Beat Happening quote seemed to. In fact, as much as I love SR's writing, my main criticism throughout all of his career is that I sometimes get the sense that he gets off more on the political thrust of music than on what he's actually hearing.

Clarke B., Friday, 3 February 2012 12:47 (fourteen years ago)

No problem with lo-fi or a lack of technical ability if it's justified. What I really don't like it's when it's being obviously affected. It's the musical equivalent of distressed interior design I guess.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Friday, 3 February 2012 13:00 (fourteen years ago)

Matt DC, C's point was that Destroyer wouldn't count under the DIY terminology. Obviously.

yeah, indie and rock audiences primarily like indie and rock music and tend to view other types of music through that lens. this is not a "problem". everybody's got a point of view, and everybody's point of view is limited in some way or another.

the tendency of indie & rock critics to dominate the discourse might be a problem, but it's better fought by presenting alternative voices than by sniping endlessly (tediously) at whatever indie & rock critics happen to enjoy.

― his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Friday, February 3, 2012 2:01 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think this is pretty OTM, to be honest.

For what it's worth, Eleanoora Rosenholm is the name of the band, not the lead singer. IIRC "Eleanoora Rosenholm" is a fictional 1920 mass murderer who appears in their lyrics, or something like that.

― Tuomas, Friday, February 3, 2012 8:54 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is very much OTM. I just couldn't be arsed to explain it at the time, hehehe.

emil.y, Friday, 3 February 2012 13:04 (fourteen years ago)

I'd say that's broadly true, Gavin, but I'm not trying to stan for the whole SST aesthetic either. I suppose, if anything, I'm valorizing a sort of pre-indie sensibility.

I definitely agree with you to an extent (I also think dog latin and Tim F are making good points about the indiefication of critical discourse) - I mean I like lots of ramshackle, amateurish indie music (GbV are one of my favourite bands) but as an aesthetic in 2012 I find it kind of limited. Whereas stuff like Beat Happening or Orange Juice or whoever actually sounds liberated/liberating - and exploratory in a fascinating way - most current indiepop just sounds like people sticking too closely to a fairly narrow formula. Not that sticking to a formula is inherently bad but there's not much that grabs me music in terms of sonics or tunes (for a genre with a 'pop' suffix, a lot of it seems pretty low on hooks) and I can't help but think that the low level of proficiency/skill involved is a large part of the problem for me. That whole 'Here's three chords, now form a band' thing, I never thought that meant everyone had to use the same three chords, or that they couldn't eventually learn a fourth.

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 3 February 2012 13:06 (fourteen years ago)

Lex please have a listen to the uncle acid album and let me know what you think. Even if you hate it, i'll take a moral victory if you say it's still better than Destroyer!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 3 February 2012 13:11 (fourteen years ago)

btw the uncle acid album is pure DIY. 1st album came out on a run of 20 cdrs. 2nd album was CDR of about a 100 then it got some internet message board buzz and blew up in the metal underground.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 3 February 2012 13:12 (fourteen years ago)

We're skirting narrowly close to the "what is indie" discussion again, but I do think it's interesting to think about it in terms of an overall set of values than tangible tickboxes like "white guys with guitars" or whatever.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Friday, 3 February 2012 13:16 (fourteen years ago)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/384786_10150478627933889_21461308888_8704352_52706294_n.jpg

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Friday, 3 February 2012 13:38 (fourteen years ago)

top 20 rap albums for huge middlebrow lulz
1. Jay-Z and Kanye West, Watch the Throne
2. Drake, Take Care
3. The Roots, Undun
4. Danny Brown, XXX
5. Kendrick Lamar, Section.80
6. Das Racist, Relax
7. Clams Casino, Instrumental Mixtape
8. Big KRIT, Return of 4Eva
9. Beastie Boys, Hot Sauce Committee Part 2
10. DJ Quik, The Book of David
11. A$AP Rocky, LiveLoveA$AP
12. Tyler, the Creator, Goblin
13. Common, The Dreamer/The Believer
14. Saigon, The Greatest Story Never Told
15. Death Grips, Exmilitary
16. J. Cole, Cole World: The Sideline Story
17. Main Attrakionz, 808s & Dark Grapes II
18. E-40, Revenue Retrievin': Graveyard Shift/Overtime Shift
19. Lil B, I'm Gay (I'm Happy)
20. Action Bronson, Dr. Lecter

― somebody sh1pley the brinks truck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:28 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

top 20 rap albums for moderate middlebrow lulz
1. DJ Quik — The Book of David
2. Shabazz Palaces — Black Up
3. E-40 — Revenue Retrievin: Overtime Shift/Graveyard Shift
4. Araabmuzik — Electronic Dream
5. Death Grips — Ex-Military
6. Clams Casino — Instrumentals
7. Kendrick Lamar — Section.80
8. Danny Brown — XXX
9. Drake – Take Care
10. Big K.R.I.T. - Return of 4Eva
11. Jay-Z & Kanye West — Watch the Throne
12. Meek Mill - Dreamchasers
13. Schoolboy Q - Setbacks
14. French Montana - Coke Boys 2
15. Killer Mike - Pl3dge
16. Action Bronson - Dr. Lecter
17. Tyler, The Creator - Goblin
18. Waka Flocka Flame - DuFlocka Rant
19. Young Bleed - Preserved
20. Angel Haze - Altered Ego

(Shabazz was also 3rd highest rap album in Pazz & Jop but Whiney missed it in his post)

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 14:15 (fourteen years ago)

gotta say i'm proud of ILM for leaving Das Racist way out the 300s, though

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 14:16 (fourteen years ago)

yessss a minor victory for angel haze and young bleed

wish cousin fik would've got more support though erm it appears to have missed my own ballot so i can't talk

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 3 February 2012 14:24 (fourteen years ago)

Anyway, back to the most important thing. A ROCK ALBUM FINALLY WON OUR POLL! lol it rocks about as hard as a single gym sock in a dryer full of towels. But, technically, it's the work of a WHITE MALE WHO PLAYS MULTIPLE INSTRUMENTS PROFICIENTLY AND HAS A BEARD.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, February 2, 2012 9:59 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I should point out that Sound of Silver won the ILM poll in 2007 and that's clearly a rock record.

― Matt DC, Friday, February 3, 2012 9:50 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Rock music - the work of a WHITE MALE WHO PLAYS MULTIPLE INSTRUMENTS PROFICIENTLY AND HAS A BEARD?

― Les Tressle (useless chamber), Friday, February 3, 2012 5:00 AM (4 hours ago)

If it wasn't obvious, I was completely sarcastic about this.

Also, thanks for the clarification on the Eleanoora Rosenholm Tuomas and emil.y—not a lot of background is generally provided with an mp3 download, lol.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 February 2012 15:00 (fourteen years ago)

WHITE MALE WHO PLAYS MULTIPLE INSTRUMENTS PROFICIENTLY AND HAS A BEARD

what's the target of your pisstaking here JF? Kerr? Bejar? I dont quite get it...

Today is Cocaine's Birthday! (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:10 (fourteen years ago)

Fleet Foxes

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:11 (fourteen years ago)

not sure if this when saints go machine album is truly great or if i'd just love anything featuring an arthur russell impersonator, but regardless, THANKS ILX.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:12 (fourteen years ago)

adam levine

xp

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:13 (fourteen years ago)

i dont play any instruments nor do i have a beard fwiw

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:13 (fourteen years ago)

Kerr? Bejar?

Both, perhaps.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:14 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, When Saints Go Machine is better than any of the others I heard for the first time from higher in the list.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:18 (fourteen years ago)

fyi the WSGM album IS truly great

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

ha, not my point; I meant the whole "rock #1" thing is your concern Kerr but you've never defined rock as BEARDED MAN MAKES COCAINE-FLAVORED REAGAN SCHMINDIE, and were p much rooting for PJ all along.

Today is Cocaine's Birthday! (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:23 (fourteen years ago)

BEARDED MAN MAKES COCAINE-FLAVORED REAGAN SCHMINDIE would be another category that also includes LCD Soundsystem

some dude, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:24 (fourteen years ago)

lol

tbh, I really didn't have a point. I was just taking a shot at Kerr who seems upset a rock album has never topped an ILM end-of-year poll and I was taking a shot at Destroyer for not being very rock while still embracing all of its trappings.

I don't know if a rock album (by Kerr's definition) will EVER win one of our polls, but Destroyer, LCDSS and, arguably, Portishead are all considered to generally fall under the rock umbrella in the rest of the world.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:29 (fourteen years ago)

there is really only one song on the Portishead album I would associate with rock tbh ("Small"); everything else is riding this weird edge of "trip-hop built off of bonkers source material"

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:31 (fourteen years ago)

lcd and portishead had some rock influences but imo theyre not rock bands. destroyer dont rock but i guess theyre a rock band even if that album isnt really rock , but it's certainly more than the other 2.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:33 (fourteen years ago)

LCD IMO is way more of a rock band than Portishead

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:34 (fourteen years ago)

and ive never said ive wanted a rock band to win for the sake of it! i dont just listen to rock. I just meant that a certain type of ilm friendly album was always #1 and it was never a 'rock' album. I certainly never wanted Destroyer to win.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

i did however have Portishead as my #1 the year it won

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

destroyer has made rock albums in the past, but Kaputt would not be considered a rock album by most people

silverfish, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:35 (fourteen years ago)

pj was the last thing i cut off my ballot, but the points total in the end meant it made no difference.
I prefer White Chalk to it and the 1st 3 will always be my faves.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:37 (fourteen years ago)

silverfish more like silversock

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:37 (fourteen years ago)

Silverfish otm. I think kaputt meets the ilm friendly aesthetic. Its a very 80s album with keyboards

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:37 (fourteen years ago)

destroyer has made rock albums in the past, but Kaputt would not be considered a rock album by most people

― silverfish, Friday, February 3, 2012 11:35 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh c'mon it would totally be considered a rock album by most people, just not most hair-splitting "tune yards is NOT underground" ILM types

pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

Kaputt's a rock album but not a ROCK album.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:40 (fourteen years ago)

if kaputt isn't a rock record then i'm not really sure what rock is anymore

ciderpress, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

what is rock?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:42 (fourteen years ago)

kaputt is a rock album but it doesn't rock

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

no you didnt Kerr; you had Torche as your #1 that year (2008); you did however root for the winner... (multiple xposts)

Today is Cocaine's Birthday! (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

It's a SUCK album ;-) xpost

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

it must have been my #2 then

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

george.xls btw

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:45 (fourteen years ago)

most rock doesn't rock anymore, especially on ILM lists. but i mean if something is closer to "rock" than "pop" or "dance" or whatever then c'mon most people would defer to that (unless they consider "indie" a wholly separate genre from "rock" or "indie rock," which again is some ILM hairsplitting ish)

pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:45 (fourteen years ago)

if indie was different to rock(ie indie bands had synths instead of guitars) then ilm might like it a bit more

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:47 (fourteen years ago)

it's only rock if I get the urge to air guitar while listening to it

silverfish, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:48 (fourteen years ago)

yeah I think it was your #2

Today is Cocaine's Birthday! (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:48 (fourteen years ago)

indie bands had synths instead of guitars

http://data.whicdn.com/images/9495192/dare_to_dream__by_this_is_the_life2905-d3fn4ea_large.jpg?1304662856

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:56 (fourteen years ago)

plenty of ilxors dream of a new New Order

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

isn't chillwave just indie bands w/synths instead of guitars?

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

love this post

Also I was listening to the Ayshay music loud in the afternoon and my neighbor gave me the weirdest look when I bumped into her in the elevator. She must have thought I was into black magic and shit.

― Moka, Friday, February 3, 2012 6:28 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:00 (fourteen years ago)

good natured irl lol
george.xls btw

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, February 3, 2012 10:45 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark

La Lechera, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:02 (fourteen years ago)

isn't chillwave just indie bands w/synths instead of guitars?

Not to UKers for whom Oasis is an indie band.

jaymc, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

Steps were also an indie band

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:16 (fourteen years ago)

Not to UKers for whom Oasis is an indie band.

― jaymc, Friday, February 3, 2012 9:15 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, this draws the line between UK and american "indie" very clearly. in all my talk about the genre's values and aesthetics upthread, i really should have mentioned radiohead. their OK computer through amnesiac arc had a huge impact on the development of american indie, imo.

adolf jingle balls (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:39 (fourteen years ago)

what is rock?

If soul is the ring around your bathtub, rock is the skidmarks in your tighty-whities.

If I were to take my heavy rock list and remove the ones strongly associated with subgenres like stoner, doom, psych, occult, prog, hardcore, etc., I would end up with this:

Graveyard - Hisingen Blues
Cherry Choke – A Night In The Arms Of Venus...
Highway Child - Highway Child
Radio Moscow - The Great Escape of Leslie Magnafuzz
Rival Sons - Pressure & Time
Melvins - Sugar Daddy Live
The Heavy Eyes
Lonely Kamel - Dust Devil
The Flying Eyes - Done So Wrong
Sandrider - Sandrider
Across Tundras - Sage
Jeff The Brotherhood - We Are The Champions
Shooting Guns - Born To Deal In Magic: 1952-1976
Suplecs - Mad Oak Redoux
Boris - Heavy Rocks
Gideon Smith & The Dixie Damned - 30 Weight
Borracho - Splitting Sky
Gordon Fights - Gordon Fights
The Grand Astoria - Omnipresence
Thalamus - Subterfuge
Red Fang - Murder The Mountains
Gentleman's Pistols – At Her Majesty's Pleasure
Dixie Witch - Let It Roll
Black Spiders - Sons Of The North
Totimoshi - Avenger
Jeremy Irons & The Ratgang Malibus - Bloom
The Quill - Full Circle
Motörhead - The Wörld Is Yours
The Company Corvette - End Of The Summers
Three Seasons - Life's Road
Grifter - Grifter
Kamchatka - Bury Your Roots
Firebird - Double Diamond

Possibly I'd add White Denim - D, as it pretty much transcends indie/psych/garage rock. ILM's failure to recognize its awesomeness is one of its many great failings lately.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:42 (fourteen years ago)

I like that White Denim album fwiw.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:43 (fourteen years ago)

the flying eyes, i know those guys! i didn't realize anyone outside baltimore was familiar with them.

pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

yeah I shd probably check out White Denim

Today is Cocaine's Birthday! (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

If some dude and fnb can agree on some band, I NEED to check them out. :D

Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:44 (fourteen years ago)

but seriously it is silly as fuck when people say "oh that band isn't [large umbrella genre] because they're really [subgenre that is totally and unambiguously within that umbrella]"

pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

Listening to Flying Eyes right now (on youtube sadly). Not too bad! Guy sings a little bit like Ian Astbury at his most druggy/American.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:47 (fourteen years ago)

If some dude and fnb can agree on some band, I NEED to check them out. :D

OMG, this!

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:48 (fourteen years ago)

tbf the last time i saw flying eyes was like 4 years ago when they were either fresh out of high school or still in HS, but they were good then, have been meaning to check out their recent stuff

pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

I love the cover of that Flying Eyes record.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

Only their first album is on Spotify, but I'm kind of liking it.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

but seriously it is silly as fuck when people say "oh that band isn't [large umbrella genre] because they're really [subgenre that is totally and unambiguously within that umbrella]"

I wouldn't do that. I have a heavy rock list that includes all those subgenres. It was just an interesting exercise to exclude the others to see what I ended up with. Flying Eyes flirt with garage rock and stoner, going between slowly lurching rhythms and guitar freakouts. They seem like they'd be a great live show.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:05 (fourteen years ago)

Just chiming in to say White Denim are indeed fantastic.

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:06 (fourteen years ago)

Although Peaking Lights do nothing for me, despite descriptions sounding exactly like my thing. Was very excited about the dub influence, but that bass sounds like someone boring holes into a piece of mdf, and there's no funk or spaceyness that I can hear. Too bad...

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:10 (fourteen years ago)

I don't mean to divert away from the poll discussion, so I reposted here: Smiths to reform without Morrissey

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:13 (fourteen years ago)

Wait, that's not right!

Rolling Stoner/Psych/Doom/Sludge/Retro/Drone/Space Thread 2012

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:13 (fourteen years ago)

hahahaha

pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:14 (fourteen years ago)

Wasn't even intentional, kind of a classic decade-old discussion though! I'll continue on other thread but will say that I would not have known about Flying Eyes were it not for their Bandcamp page. Be good if they offered an inexpensive download too.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:22 (fourteen years ago)

kind of surprised at the lack of pains of being pure at heart, thought that was received relatively well. i'd have voted for it

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Saturday, 4 February 2012 07:11 (fourteen years ago)

don't really like the direction they took with it.

regal xenophobe (electricsound), Saturday, 4 February 2012 07:20 (fourteen years ago)

really can't believe you guys just accept these results as real

corportate/Illuminati controlled (crüt), Saturday, 4 February 2012 08:14 (fourteen years ago)

whats wrong with them

ciderpress, Saturday, 4 February 2012 08:19 (fourteen years ago)

foulplay?

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2012 08:45 (fourteen years ago)

http://pawsru.org/m/src/m54461_We-get-it-Youre-butt-hurt.jpg

Jamie_ATP, Saturday, 4 February 2012 10:27 (fourteen years ago)

What is real? How do you define real?

sleepingbag, Saturday, 4 February 2012 10:30 (fourteen years ago)

- Morpheus

sleepingbag, Saturday, 4 February 2012 10:30 (fourteen years ago)

Pains Of Being Pure At Heart: fantastic opening track followed by diminishing returns

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Saturday, 4 February 2012 11:03 (fourteen years ago)

Someone On the ballots thread made a good point about Mara Carlyle not turning up. Thought this would have been quite popular among certain ilxors. No love round these parts?

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Saturday, 4 February 2012 11:14 (fourteen years ago)

I have never heard of Mara Carlyle. Who is she?

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2012 11:21 (fourteen years ago)

destroyer was my #1 as well. Took me a while to get into it, but it is an album worth investing some time in.

also I love his voice and lyrics, on this and on previous albums.

― silverfish, Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:05 (2 days ago) Bookmark

I know this makes me a terrible person for saying this, and I'm willing to be cast out into the great wilderness of butthurt for saying so, but could we not let this obvious sock sinisterly robotic lurker vote in this next time round plz?

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2012 11:45 (fourteen years ago)

Sorry, that sounded a bit cranky, but it's a pain in the arse to spend days following this thing and then see the top two positions possibly decided by a one-dimensional poster who has seemingly never posted outside this thread.

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2012 12:41 (fourteen years ago)

No accusation intended at J0rdan or seandalai btw.

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2012 12:42 (fourteen years ago)

I'm assuming that their number one vote for Destroyer was basically cover for their number two vote mentioned in their first ever post:

discovering stuff like Uncle Acid & the Deadbeats is what makes lurking at this place worthwhile. My #2.

― silverfish, Thursday, 2 February 2012 19:41 (2 days ago) Bookmark

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2012 12:50 (fourteen years ago)

Okay, way out of line, I'm going for a lie-down.

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2012 12:54 (fourteen years ago)

wtf

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:07 (fourteen years ago)

Is there a set number of posts one has to make to be 'allowed' to vote in EOY polls or smthg?

pandemic, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:11 (fourteen years ago)

why are crut and nick b calling shenanigans?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:27 (fourteen years ago)

have i missed something?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:27 (fourteen years ago)

i'm not anti-lurker, i'm just anti-sock

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:29 (fourteen years ago)

well why would it be a sock? and cant a mod tell if its a sock anyway? by comparing ip addys? I cant see Destroyer fans signing up just to vote (or fans of any band)
plus even if you took out his/her ballot wouldn't destroyer still have won by 4 points?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:31 (fourteen years ago)

would depend on what else they voted for i guess

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:34 (fourteen years ago)

you should be used to lurkers posting in polls by now. At least they signed up to post.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:35 (fourteen years ago)

okay i am anti-lurker too then

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:36 (fourteen years ago)

SHENANIGANS

APPEAL

STRIP KAPUTTTTT OF ITS ILL-GOTTEN TITLE

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:38 (fourteen years ago)

lex otm

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:40 (fourteen years ago)

johnny f now knows what the alltime metal poll felt like

lol

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:41 (fourteen years ago)

what happens if lurkers who have never posted voted for pj harvey/katy b/beyonce?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:42 (fourteen years ago)

they will be embraced as long-lost brothers and sisters

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:44 (fourteen years ago)

otm

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:49 (fourteen years ago)

there will never not be a good time to post this
http://images4.cpcache.com/product_zoom/424353334v8_460x460_Front_Color-NavyWhite_padToSquare-true.jpg

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:50 (fourteen years ago)

Call Whiney 51-51

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:50 (fourteen years ago)

Silverfish's first ever post:

The 11th P&J Singles Poll!

Today is Cocaine's Birthday! (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:22 (fourteen years ago)

That mightve been the wrong silverfish actually...

Today is Cocaine's Birthday! (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:27 (fourteen years ago)

I respect your deep passion for maintaining the purity of ILX polls

dave cool, Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:30 (fourteen years ago)

honestly all the fuss over someones first post/vote just goes to prove why people lurk rather than post just so they dont have to take abuse. Be more friendly and welcoming everyone!

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:30 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i know, but c'mon really now

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:40 (fourteen years ago)

Destroyer is living up to his name

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:42 (fourteen years ago)

just because the guy/girls #1 was Destroyer it must be a sock? You're embarrassing yourselves! What if they also voted for beyonce or katy b? or something else you guys like.
xp

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:43 (fourteen years ago)

take away the 40 points for his #1 and Destroyer still wins

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:44 (fourteen years ago)

i thought this whole poll had run smoothly too

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:45 (fourteen years ago)

50 points no?

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:47 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, Nick, I don't like that Destroyer beat PJ, but my reaction is not to suddenly become a paranoid wreck. And that's my default reaction to almost everything.

emil.y, Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:47 (fourteen years ago)

Why all the fuss about this one poster whose ballot you don't even know. I don't know if you noticed but 35 other people voted for it.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:47 (fourteen years ago)

tbh i don't really have an opinion either way on destroyer and i don't even like the pj harvey record much either, but silverfish just seems completely fishy and bogus to me

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:49 (fourteen years ago)

oh i think their ballots should be retroactively disqualified too

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:50 (fourteen years ago)

it would be quite sad if posters were bullied into not voting for certain kind of albums like what happened with anco the other year.
I dont recall any reactions to other ILM EOY polls that were like this.
It's bizzare to me as Destroyer just sound middle of the road nothing to love or hate about them. It's as inoffensive or tasteful as fever ray or something.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:52 (fourteen years ago)

Iirc I think we picked up silverfish in the sandbox. He seems to be into of Montreal more than anything...

Today is Cocaine's Birthday! (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:53 (fourteen years ago)

its not like burzum or tyler the creator won where i can see why people might object.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:54 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/1605-sound-of-butthurt.png

Jamie_ATP, Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:55 (fourteen years ago)

if this was like the metal poll where we publish all ballots/stats on needle, you lot would be looking over every ballot wouldn't you? Would publishing all ballots stop this nonsense or make it worse?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:56 (fourteen years ago)

I think people growing up a bit would probably help more.

Jamie_ATP, Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:57 (fourteen years ago)

wouldn't make a difference either way afaict xp

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:58 (fourteen years ago)

i think some people would be unhappy about their ballots being published - enough that it might stop them voting for fear of them getting abuse.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:05 (fourteen years ago)

but on metal poll noones ever taken abuse for voting. Not even the nightwish voters lol

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:05 (fourteen years ago)

http://sandbox.ilxor.com/sandbox/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?showall=true&boardid=141&threadid=1646&bookmarkedmessageid=40291

^silverfish's 1st post in the sandbox

flog this poster for moderation (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:07 (fourteen years ago)

wtf is wrong with some of you ppl

call all destroyer, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:08 (fourteen years ago)

otm

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:10 (fourteen years ago)

I think silverfish should be welcomed to ILM not chased away. Clearly isn't a sock. And I'm glad he/she liked uncle acid & the deadbeats.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:12 (fourteen years ago)

Huh I was wondering the feasibility of revealing which 12 posters voted Kaputt as #1, but if NickB keeps banging the drum, they might all show up soon anyways

flog this poster for moderation (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:14 (fourteen years ago)

wtf is wrong with some of you ppl

i know right, this is what i was asking earlier!

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:17 (fourteen years ago)

Lol

flog this poster for moderation (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:18 (fourteen years ago)

NickB isn't on the level btw Lex

flog this poster for moderation (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:19 (fourteen years ago)

wtf is wrong with some of you ppl

― call all destroyer, zaterdag 4 februari 2012 16:08 (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:22 (fourteen years ago)

(Sorry if you've already gathered that yourself) xp

flog this poster for moderation (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:22 (fourteen years ago)

The funny thing about this conversation is that Lex was preparing himself for a Destroyer win 9 posts into the thread, so it was obviously a distinct possibility from the start. I don't see how folks would assume that it is fake or fixed or something.

Moodles, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:29 (fourteen years ago)

I personally love the album, but I get that people would feel indifferently towards it. I don't get the outright anger though. It is much to mellow and unassuming to be the object of so much ire.

Moodles, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:31 (fourteen years ago)

this is amazing

dave cool, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:31 (fourteen years ago)

Fwiw it's possible to see 12 #1 votes and go "no fucking way!"--alluva sudden Kaputt is the Mulholland Drive of music?--but apparently there's a huge thread that I've barely skimmed that sets the stage for exactly this happening...

flog this poster for moderation (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:34 (fourteen years ago)

lol @ the mulholland drive of music

call all destroyer, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:34 (fourteen years ago)

The Kaputt thread mostly avoided having lots of folks drift in just to complain about how much they hated it. It stayed mostly positive and was otherwise ignored by people who weren't interested.

Moodles, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:36 (fourteen years ago)

Lol yeah I imagine

flog this poster for moderation (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:37 (fourteen years ago)

hadn't seen that sandbox post, thanks for the link Drugs

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:41 (fourteen years ago)

glad people are waking up to the facts... of this being a fake poll

corportate/Illuminati controlled (crüt), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:45 (fourteen years ago)

My ballot:

1 Destroyer - Kaputt
2 Bill Callahan - Apocalypse
3 Opeth - Heritage
4 Egyptrixx - Bible Eyes
5 Jay-Z & Kanye West - Watch The Throne
6 Radiohead - King of Limbs
7 tUnE-yArDs - w h o k i l l
8 Tyler The Creator - Goblin
9 Mastodon - The Hunter
10 The Weeknd - House of Baloons
11 St Vincent - Strange Mercy
12 Gang Gang Dance - Eye Contact
13 The Advisory Circle - As the Crow Flies

Battles - Gloss Drop
Eleanor Friedberger - Last Summer
Fleet Foxes - Helplessness Blues
High Llamas - Talahomi Way
Justice - Audio Video Disco
Kode9 & The Spaceape - Black Sun
Ladytron - Gravity The Seducer
Maria Minerva - Cabaret Cixous
Real Estate - Days
Surkin - USA
Urge Overkill - Rock 'n' Roll Submarine
Wild Flag - Wild Flag

Moodles, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:45 (fourteen years ago)

advisory circle B)

dave cool, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:46 (fourteen years ago)

You like the Advisory Circle record too, Mr Cool? Don't think I saw your ballot, but it's a good record. I was saying that it'd probably have been higher on my ballot had I not been so much of a Ghost Box completist for so long - I'm getting hauntology fatigue.

Anyway, not meaning to be pissy or rude or anything, but there's a specific thread for ballots etc: 2011 Albums Poll: Stats and Ballots Hoedown of Truth

emil.y, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:48 (fourteen years ago)

Other stuff that won that I've been enjoying a lot lately:

61. Lykke Li – Wounded Rhymes (294 points, 10 votes)
48. Tom Waits — Bad As Me (352 points, 14 votes)
34. Cut Copy — Zonoscope (392 points, 12 votes, one first place vote)
31. Nguzunguzu — The Perfect Lullaby (404 points, 13 votes, 2 first place votes)
17. M83 — Hurry Up We’re Dreaming (519 points, 21 votes, one first place vote)
15. Rustie — Glass Swords (557 points, 18 votes)
14. Kurt Vile — Smoke Ring For My Halo (572 points, 16 votes, one first place vote)

Probably would have voted for Lykke Li, Rustie, and Kurt Vile if I had a re-do. Probably would have dropped Battles, I'm getting kind of sick of that one.

Moodles, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:50 (fourteen years ago)

xpost

Been a big fan of the Ghost Box stuff for a while. There's a new Belbury Poly coming out soon that I'm really looking forward to.

Moodles, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:51 (fourteen years ago)

Stuff I'm checking out primarily because of the poll results:

75. Liturgy — Aesthethica (264 points, nine votes)
72. Barbara Panther — Barbara Panther (270 points, seven votes, two first place votes) - really liking this!!
67. Veronica Falls - Veronica Falls (282 points, 11 votes)
63. Austra - Feel it Break (290 points, ten votes, one first place vote) - my wife had been liking this one, but I somehow managed to miss it.
36. Holy Ghost! — Holy Ghost! (384 points, 13 votes, one first place vote)
33. John Maus — We Must Become The Pitiless Censors of Ourselves (398 points, 14 votes, one first place vote)
30. Ford & Lopatin — Channel Pressure (410 points, 14 votes)
28. Araabmuzik — Electronic Dream (445 points, 14 votes)
26. Oneohtrix Point Never — Replica (474 points, 17 votes, one first place vote)
24. Colin Stetson — New History Warfare Vol. 2: Judges (481 points, 13 votes, one first place vote)
23. E-40 — Revenue Retrievin: Overtime Shift/Graveyard Shift (484 points, 16 votes)
19. Peaking Lights — 936 (514 points, 17 votes)
16. Boy Better Know — Tropical 2 (548 points, 15 votes, 4 first place votes)
13. Julianna Barwick — The Magic Place (583 points, 19 votes, two first place votes)

Moodles, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:58 (fourteen years ago)

so much bitterness in this thread, I love it

skip, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:36 (fourteen years ago)

I love the advisory circle. It was in my top 100, but seems like if I tabulated the list again it may be higher after successive plays. I discovered it late in the year

dave cool, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

sorry for making some of you angry

silverfish, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:41 (fourteen years ago)

I've been lurking here for a couple of years now. I used to have the account "peter in montreal" but I grew tired of that name. I've got probably something like 100 posts over 4 years.

silverfish, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

I just like voting in polls, it's fun

silverfish, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

shame on you

Moodles, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:48 (fourteen years ago)

:(

silverfish, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:49 (fourteen years ago)

aw, I'm just kidding. I feel for you. I'm kind of in the same boat: don't post a huge amount, don't really want to spend lots of time justifying my voting, just want to be able to enjoy it and enjoy this (mostly) great thread.

Moodles, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:51 (fourteen years ago)

the whole sock accusation thing is absurd

Moodles, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:52 (fourteen years ago)

no worries, silverfish. you should hang out in the outloud room sometime. just don't play Destroyer. not kidding.

(ok yeah i'm kidding)

flog this poster for moderation (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

silverfish - apologies, i obviously made a huge mistake

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2012 17:00 (fourteen years ago)

gob_bluth.gif

jaymc, Saturday, 4 February 2012 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

glad thats sorted then

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 17:53 (fourteen years ago)

Here's my ballot:

1.Destroyer - Kaputt
1.Destroyer - Kaputt
1.Destroyer - Kaputt
1.Destroyer - Kaputt
1.Destroyer - Kaputt
1.Destroyer - Kaputt
1.Destroyer - Kaputt
1.Destroyer - Kaputt
1.Destroyer - Kaputt
1.Destroyer - Kaputt
1.Destroyer - Kaputt
1.Destroyer - Kaputt
1.Destroyer - Kaputt
1.Destroyer - Kaputt
1.Destroyer - Kaputt
1.Destroyer - Kaputt
1.Destroyer - Kaputt
1.Destroyer - Kaputt
1.Destroyer - Kaputt
1.Destroyer - Kaputt
1.Destroyer - Kaputt
1.Destroyer - Kaputt
1.Destroyer - Kaputt
1.Destroyer - Kaputt
25. Beyonce - 4

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Saturday, 4 February 2012 17:56 (fourteen years ago)

i heard you were john justens sock

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

no, Sara R-C is jjjusten's sock

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Saturday, 4 February 2012 18:00 (fourteen years ago)

incompetence as a springboard to glory

STUPIDITY THAT NEEDS TO STFU

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, February 3, 2012 4:56 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is fucking rich coming from the board's biggest champion of Ashanti, Cassie and the Kim Kardashian single

pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Saturday, 4 February 2012 18:18 (fourteen years ago)

Glad I wasn't here for the above nonsense...all I'll say is that 90% of voters (including 11 of the 12 Destroyer #1s) are ILM regulars whose username I immediately recognise. Allegations of our beautiful poll being overrun by benighted lurkers don't hold up, as far as I can tell.

two lights crew (seandalai), Saturday, 4 February 2012 18:19 (fourteen years ago)

so that means that 10 year old jjjusten didn't really have no friends after all and that his invisible friend 'Bad Dan' didn't repeatedly wet jjj's bed?
xp

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 18:19 (fourteen years ago)

If I've parsed those negatives correctly, I believe the answer you're looking for is "sausage"

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Saturday, 4 February 2012 18:30 (fourteen years ago)

Glad I wasn't here for the above nonsense

Yeah, sorry about all that. Another day, another person makes a ginormous bell-end of themselves on the internet.

*hangs head in shame*

Phibes Kartel (NickB), Saturday, 4 February 2012 18:58 (fourteen years ago)

ha, at least it wasn't me this time!

La Lechera, Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

i forgot to vote for destroyer i think, at least in the albums poll. wish i had, it would have been top 5 for sure!

omar little, Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

it's just...so good.

omar little, Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:53 (fourteen years ago)

Alex in NYC will be psyched that Destroyer won. Wait - it's not this one?

http://pics.livejournal.com/csberry/pic/000256z7

Bummer.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:56 (fourteen years ago)

noone would vote for that shite band, not even on ilm

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:57 (fourteen years ago)

u kidding me Kerr?

flog this poster for moderation (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:58 (fourteen years ago)

the misfits from tv's 'jem' tap dancing on a pile of bricks.

omar little, Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:59 (fourteen years ago)

well not in the UK, we had our own boy bands

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:00 (fourteen years ago)

xp now that's an album I'd vote for!

flog this poster for moderation (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:00 (fourteen years ago)

with lunch box merch

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:00 (fourteen years ago)

and tartan scarves

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:00 (fourteen years ago)

The biggest hit Kiss had in the UK until the Bill & Ted film was this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0loERrRJ-yg

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:03 (fourteen years ago)

and the osmonds - crazy horses rocked harder than that

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:03 (fourteen years ago)

the only thing that this rocks more than is Kaputt

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:06 (fourteen years ago)

xxp: Mara Carlyle
She was Plaid's vocal muse, much as Allison Goldfrapp was Orbital's. I love the EP where she covers Hey by the Pixies and 1 Thing by Amerie, simultaneously. The album is unavailable in the States, but findable. I didn't care for it because it leaned pretty far in well-tracked singer-songwriter with guitar territory. Goldfrapp's post 90's work, for all its ups and downs, at least offers novelty with every release.

Sanpaku, Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:07 (fourteen years ago)

noone would vote for that shite band, not even on ilm

BEG TO DIFFER

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:13 (fourteen years ago)

the whole sock accusation thing is absurd fucking retarded absurd

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:14 (fourteen years ago)

Also I was listening to the Ayshay music loud in the afternoon and my neighbor gave me the weirdest look when I bumped into her in the elevator. She must have thought I was into black magic and shit.

― Moka, Friday, February 3, 2012 6:28 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Had you started acting in super-gay-crazy bitch-made devil-racist beast-mode or accidentally painted an upside-down 7 on the wall with a cross before erasing it? I know my neighbour thinks I'm into black magic when I do all sorts of mystical negro type shit. Or play Electric Wizard really loud.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:19 (fourteen years ago)

Great thread by the way but was ultimately disappointed by the lack of Mexicans in really long winkle pickers.

(And people who think Destroyer is rock music need to crack open some Buds and crank up Cold Chisel.)

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:21 (fourteen years ago)

Ha ha I love destroyer now even more, what a ridic reaction to a poll

dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:33 (fourteen years ago)

contenderizer , I know there's posters on this board who love Kiss.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:33 (fourteen years ago)

M@tt the reaction to the results is all the more funnier when johnny fever said in outloud that the poll rollout thread went well with not much bullshit(that was after the lex's drunken rant which was still less than everyone expected). Then 2 days later shit hits the fan.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:36 (fourteen years ago)

it was almost as bad as the alltime metal poll

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

I know my neighbour thinks I'm into black magic when I do all sorts of mystical negro type shit.

uh

call all destroyer, Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:43 (fourteen years ago)

what a sham.

David Dees Weekly Top 40 (crüt), Saturday, 4 February 2012 21:05 (fourteen years ago)

my analysis of the top 2 boils down to

british artist thinks long & hard about war, makes great album
canadian artist eats sandwich, makes greater album

flopson, Saturday, 4 February 2012 21:08 (fourteen years ago)

kmt the only thing more disgustingly savage than liking destroyer is actively preferring destroyer to pj harvey

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Saturday, 4 February 2012 21:14 (fourteen years ago)

actually not sure which one i actually prefer tbh, peej is a lot more astounding but destroyer goes down more easily

flopson, Saturday, 4 February 2012 21:16 (fourteen years ago)

i think there's only one song on LES that's really tough to listen to ("england") - in the PJH discography it's probably one of the easiest listens (easiest ≠ simple, obv). it's probably the only PJH album i'd even consider playing near my parents.

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Saturday, 4 February 2012 21:24 (fourteen years ago)

"certain posters" itt thread causing me to regret voting for PJH, tho i do sincerely love both her and LES

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 February 2012 21:34 (fourteen years ago)

Destroyer was way better than the PJ Harvey and all of this is making me want to retroactively submit my lurkerballot

1) The Weeknd - 80 pts
2) Destroyer - 60 pts
3) Frank Ocean - 100 pts
4) All Other Inauthentic RnB - 200 pts
5) Drake rapping on top of Panda Bear tracks - 69 pts

sleepingbag, Saturday, 4 February 2012 21:51 (fourteen years ago)

lulz

dr dre throwing dubstep balloons (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 4 February 2012 21:52 (fourteen years ago)

Call All Destroyer: Ah, you're obviously not familiar with one of ILX's finest moments.

I believe the sentiment around these parts is - never forget.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Saturday, 4 February 2012 22:01 (fourteen years ago)

who was luriqua again?

Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 4 February 2012 22:21 (fourteen years ago)

Some kind of genius.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Saturday, 4 February 2012 22:25 (fourteen years ago)

A student from Wisconsin who loved to get blasted on PCP every weekend iirc?

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Saturday, 4 February 2012 23:51 (fourteen years ago)

Never ban luriqua

dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 5 February 2012 00:45 (fourteen years ago)

Call All Destroyer: Ah, you're obviously not familiar with one of ILX's finest moments.

I believe the sentiment around these parts is - never forget.

― Conan The Asshander (Doran), Saturday, February 4, 2012 5:01 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol ok i am familiar with that post but not intimately so

call all destroyer, Sunday, 5 February 2012 02:37 (fourteen years ago)

i basically study that post like indiana jones did the legend of the ark of the covenant

dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 5 February 2012 03:41 (fourteen years ago)

i once recorded myself reciting that post and posted it on 77 or 1p3 or somewhere i don't remember

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Sunday, 5 February 2012 04:12 (fourteen years ago)

Just realized Apocalypse didn't make the list. It isnt my fave Bill Callahan/Smog album but it seemed to get more critical attention than his last few so kinda surprised it didn't turn up.

congratulations (n/a), Sunday, 5 February 2012 04:12 (fourteen years ago)

i once recorded myself reciting that post and posted it on 77 or 1p3 or somewhere i don't remember

― lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Saturday, February 4, 2012 11:12 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

shit where is this thread I can't find it now, all time classic

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Sunday, 5 February 2012 04:47 (fourteen years ago)

haha damn i wanna hear that rev!

dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 5 February 2012 05:01 (fourteen years ago)

seriously...sarge?

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Sunday, 5 February 2012 05:02 (fourteen years ago)

iirc when that thread got bumped all the recordings had expired? it was tragic.

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Sunday, 5 February 2012 05:04 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=80027

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Sunday, 5 February 2012 05:07 (fourteen years ago)

fuuuck theyre not up anymore

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Sunday, 5 February 2012 05:12 (fourteen years ago)

if anyone's on what.cd i made a collage of everything (except the ILX Lulus and the Dawn Richard tape):

http://what.cd/collages.php?id=11985

http://i.imgur.com/Vlfo1.png
http://i.imgur.com/bjzD1.png
http://i.imgur.com/uxjiL.png
http://i.imgur.com/sTJlJ.png

⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 5 February 2012 10:08 (fourteen years ago)

Nice work gr80!

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 5 February 2012 10:33 (fourteen years ago)

I just hope it won't lead to a massive influx of what.cd users, because srsly, 90% of the people on there are complete tools. They will demand a FLAC version of ILX.

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 5 February 2012 10:35 (fourteen years ago)

i lossless x

regal xenophobe (electricsound), Sunday, 5 February 2012 10:36 (fourteen years ago)

What's what.cd?

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Sunday, 5 February 2012 10:52 (fourteen years ago)

A torrent site

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 5 February 2012 10:55 (fourteen years ago)

oops i had the mountain goats tape on instead of the album-- fixed it

⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 5 February 2012 10:57 (fourteen years ago)

lbi, its an invite only torrent site, big difference :(

Jibe, Sunday, 5 February 2012 12:47 (fourteen years ago)

True. I'll see if I have some invites later to share with youse.

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 5 February 2012 12:48 (fourteen years ago)

that'd be greatly appreciated ^^

Jibe, Sunday, 5 February 2012 14:58 (fourteen years ago)

Cough

"bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:01 (fourteen years ago)

what invite what.cd

⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:13 (fourteen years ago)

4 reals tho i have one, 1st person to prove they didnt vote for katy b, webmail me.

⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:17 (fourteen years ago)

lol of all the things to take a stand against

lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:25 (fourteen years ago)

i'm with grady on that one tbh

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:28 (fourteen years ago)

Oh gr8080 just as I was invited to what.cd last week. You crazy for this one.

Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:29 (fourteen years ago)

woulda voted for katy b, sorry

"bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:38 (fourteen years ago)

actually no, i wouldn't have but she woulda been like #36 or something

"bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:38 (fourteen years ago)

lol a destroyer fan doesn't get katy b

endless lols

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 6 February 2012 00:00 (fourteen years ago)

why would they ever understand fun i guess

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 6 February 2012 00:00 (fourteen years ago)

I didn't vote for anyone, invite me to what.

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 6 February 2012 00:01 (fourteen years ago)

i dont get destroyer or katy b.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 6 February 2012 00:03 (fourteen years ago)

invite you to what? xp

flopson, Monday, 6 February 2012 00:07 (fourteen years ago)

the invite has been claimed.

⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 6 February 2012 00:12 (fourteen years ago)

and katy b isnt fun

⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 6 February 2012 00:12 (fourteen years ago)

hey gr80 whats your what login

flopson, Monday, 6 February 2012 00:31 (fourteen years ago)

hint: i made the 77 collage

⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 6 February 2012 01:16 (fourteen years ago)

really loving the colin stetson. thanks ilx!

Z S, Monday, 6 February 2012 04:33 (fourteen years ago)

i mean, i'm barely into it, even, but i'm just astounded. also, the best cover i've seen all year.

Z S, Monday, 6 February 2012 04:34 (fourteen years ago)

not just the cool horses, but also extending their herded gallop across the frame on the left. awesome.

Z S, Monday, 6 February 2012 04:35 (fourteen years ago)

last post, sorry, but thanks for making the collage on what, gr8080!

Z S, Monday, 6 February 2012 04:37 (fourteen years ago)

you're welcome!

also, yeah that colin stetson cover is gorgeous. very Z S, imo.

⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 6 February 2012 06:46 (fourteen years ago)

grady, im irish, i voted for that destroyer album

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Monday, 6 February 2012 06:57 (fourteen years ago)

english ppl be acting ridiculous here btw

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Monday, 6 February 2012 06:58 (fourteen years ago)

michael b has no love for katy b

⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 6 February 2012 07:11 (fourteen years ago)

i dont actually, her tunes are a bit slight haha

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Monday, 6 February 2012 07:14 (fourteen years ago)

michael b otm

⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 6 February 2012 07:19 (fourteen years ago)

ok grades im drunk rite now and listening to the katy b album but 4 mins in it aint no kaputt CMON LEX HAVE AT YE!!!!

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Monday, 6 February 2012 07:21 (fourteen years ago)

ugh shoutouts...great

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Monday, 6 February 2012 07:23 (fourteen years ago)

hold on a sec this is kinda good haha

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Monday, 6 February 2012 07:32 (fourteen years ago)

XD

Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Monday, 6 February 2012 07:46 (fourteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

So I listened to this James Ferraro thing on my way into work today and... well it's this thread Internet nostalgia made into an album, innit? I totally get why a lot of people think it's nobblers, but I think the Encarta 94 nostalgia trip works on me. Our first family PC, playing demos of Sim City, Beneath A Steel Sky and Magic Carpet, making "funny" Powerpoint presentations from clipart etc. Obv this isn't really a record I'd want to listen to every day, but it's keenly observed (everything from the LO text-to-speech voices to the fast fades at the ends of tracks). It all builds into this Pentium-Inside near-retro-futuristic vision as heard through the medium of Cool Edit as opposed to VHS cassettes. Some of it reminds me of Sufjan Stevens' 'Michigan' album for some reason.

The Invisible Superstars (dog latin), Monday, 20 February 2012 10:17 (thirteen years ago)

It's also interesting to see, particularly with this album, the exponential rate at which nostalgia seems to be turning over. Assuming retro is an unavoidable aesthetic that is just going to happen at this stage, the rapidity at which artists seem to be rushing through these tropes is kind of staggering - from post-punk revivalism, through chillwave's mid-late '80s TV obsession and now Ferraro's Netscape-aesthetic - it's like retro music is rushing to get to that theoretical point where it literally catches up with the present. Unlike many revivals so far, I'm old enough now to distinctly remember the early days of the internet, but at the time I was so impressed with the fact I could download Pearl Jam tabs and muck around with voice recordings in a sound editor, that the imperfections of these systems weren't apparent to me. It requires temporal/technological distancing to make these talking avatars and bandwith-draining web ephemera seem old-fashioned and naif. I think Ferraro makes that point explicit by putting an iPad on the cover - it's just a reminder that tomorrow, today's cutting-edge ideas will be considered extremely naff within only a few years.

The Invisible Superstars (dog latin), Monday, 20 February 2012 10:33 (thirteen years ago)

hm. interesting points.

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 February 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

one year passes...

gawd WHEN is there gonna be a new psychic paramount album??!?

j., Wednesday, 1 January 2014 20:45 (twelve years ago)

Pearl Ensemble is the next best thing j.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 20:56 (twelve years ago)

Ensemble Pearl

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 21:00 (twelve years ago)

def need to check that out soon

lisa...Grampsy??? (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 2 January 2014 06:30 (twelve years ago)

they need to get one (1) hot rhythm section before 'next best thing' makes any sense at all, PP on the other hand cook like a motherfucker

j., Friday, 3 January 2014 02:03 (twelve years ago)

I didn't mean that they were sound-alikes, they are two different bands after all. There isn't anything as delicate as Wray on PP's last record. I just meant it is a psyche/drone album that possesseth a similar undefinable quality, they don't to do anything more.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 3 January 2014 03:50 (twelve years ago)

i was thinking more of their possibly also obliterating the difference between the sky and the ground until everything rushes on ahead in a metronomic cacophony, but ah well, delicacy

j., Friday, 3 January 2014 04:01 (twelve years ago)

I meant to say They don't 'need' to do anything more. Fuck me 'metronomic cacophony' ? I would get some ointment for that.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Saturday, 4 January 2014 01:34 (twelve years ago)

something to sniff at least

j., Saturday, 4 January 2014 01:59 (twelve years ago)


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