fall out boy - folie à deux poll

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Folie à Deux (English: "A Madness Shared by Two") is the fifth studio album by American rock band Fall Out Boy.

Poll Results

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7. "(Coffee's for Closers)" 4:35 2
8. "What a Catch, Donnie" 4:51 2
12. "20 Dollar Nose Bleed" 4:17 1
10. "Tiffany Blews" 3:44 1
9. "27" 3:12 1
1. "Disloyal Order of Water Buffaloes" 4:17 1
6. "The (Shipped) Gold Standard" 3:19 1
13. "West Coast Smoker" 2:46 1
5. "Headfirst Slide into Cooperstown on a Bad Bet" 3:54 0
4. "America's Suitehearts" 3:34 0
3. "She's My Winona" 3:51 0
11. "w.a.m.s." 4:38 0
2. "I Don't Care" 3:34 0


johnny crunch, Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:40 (thirteen years ago)

i kind of have no idea which one to vote for

and yet i also know it's "(coffee's for closers)"

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:41 (thirteen years ago)

anyway best pop-rock record of however many years

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:42 (thirteen years ago)

the high pts are v high, few clunkers but yeah

coffees for closers vs headfirst slide vs what a catch

johnny crunch, Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:44 (thirteen years ago)

holy shit crunch, i was searching for a folie a deux poll today cuz i thought i had made one a while back

J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:45 (thirteen years ago)

man i have been jamming this album this week, what a weird coincidence

ANYWAY

1. the (shipped) gold standard
2. what a catch donnie
3. disloyal order of water buffaloes
4. headirst slide into cooperstown on a bad bet
5. w.a.m.s.

J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:47 (thirteen years ago)

the back half of this album is kinda cool

"w.a.m.s." has that slick production and stump doing that weird blues thing at the end, "20 dollar nosebleed" is a cool horns & piano pop song, and there's the one that's kinda hair metal-y?

this album really rules... trying to think of any rock band in the past 5 or 6 years that has put out two consecutive albums as good as 'infinity on high' and this one -- i could think of a few that might come close

J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:49 (thirteen years ago)

huh yeah id thought i remembered one before too but idk

yeah i still play these songs A LOT

also, it's just weird but like the ~concept~ of folie a deux has been in my mind for a few months ever since i've seen this http://youtu.be/Euy6vE5VsMQ - i just think it's cool these guys (prob solely pat stump?) knew it was a thing or w/e

johnny crunch, Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:52 (thirteen years ago)

this album really rules... trying to think of any rock band in the past 5 or 6 years that has put out two consecutive albums as good as 'infinity on high' and this one -- i could think of a few that might come close

― J0rdan S., Friday, February 3, 2012 9:49 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gaslight anthem?

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:56 (thirteen years ago)

enh

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:00 (thirteen years ago)

"20 dollar nosebleed" is a cool horns & piano pop song

which sort of launches from the style of panic at the disco's pretty. odd / brendan urie guests on that particular track. kind of a neat synergistic fbr moment

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:02 (thirteen years ago)

gaslight anthem?

― tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Friday, February 3, 2012 9:56 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

my list would be like... titus andronicus, against me, los campesinos...

J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:04 (thirteen years ago)

i sorta miss all the metaness of 'infinity on high' but there's a lot of lyrical passages on this album that i find genuinely affecting, which is kinda weird seeing as they were written by freakin pete wentz

also identify with lots of the self-mocking here... like "you can only blame your problems on the world for so long / before it all becomes the same old song" is often hard to listen to

J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:10 (thirteen years ago)

something abt the lyric 'that time my dad called me a horseshoe crab' or w/e it is is a huge block for me in that song

johnny crunch, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:13 (thirteen years ago)

i've learned that ppl my age get really weirded out when they learn that you're super into recent fall out boy records

J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:15 (thirteen years ago)

it's "caught me a horeshoe crab"

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:15 (thirteen years ago)

yeah "my dad caught me a horseshoe crab / and i asked if throwing it in the sea would bring our luck back"

J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:16 (thirteen years ago)

also wentz really comes into his own as a lyric writer on this record. i love all the lyrics of "disloyal order"

Little girl, you got me staring odd
Or was that just a telescopic camera nod

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:16 (thirteen years ago)

hah that i thought it was 'called me a horseshoe crab' all these yrs, im an idiot

johnny crunch, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:19 (thirteen years ago)

paranoid pete wentz unable to disassociate his relationships from celebrity > pete wentz who hates his girlfriend, definitely, much as i love take this to your grave

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:19 (thirteen years ago)

never the same person when i go to sleep
as when i wake up
as when i wake up

god this record

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:21 (thirteen years ago)

i have a thing for "tiffany blews"

the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 4 February 2012 06:45 (thirteen years ago)

"Coffee's for Closers" is really good (although I wish it were actually about Glengarry Glen Ross!). Is the whole album that good? I enjoyed From Under the Cork Tree but haven't kept up with anything since. "This Ain't a Scene..." kind of turned me off.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 4 February 2012 07:41 (thirteen years ago)

"Headfirst Slide..." is my favourite but I love basically everything on this album.

Tim F, Saturday, 4 February 2012 08:36 (thirteen years ago)

anyway best pop-rock record of however many years

― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, February 4, 2012 2:42 AM

^^

Have to rep for "West Coast Smoker"'s thwomping bassline, mix of choral flourishes, hardcore snarl, and Debbie Harry's rasp - "Oh hell yes / I'm a nervous wreck / The drugs just make me reset"; it's probably that or "The (Shipped) Gold Standard" for me. Love "I Don't Care"'s repurposing that line from Nirvana's "Drain You" into a T-Rex style glam stomp.

Why did this album fail commercially / on the radio - bad choice of singles, moment passing, or ...? My editor & I repped really hard for this, but it seemed nobody heard it compared to Cork Tree/Infinity On High.

etc, Saturday, 4 February 2012 10:07 (thirteen years ago)

lyrical passages on this album that i find genuinely affecting, which is kinda weird seeing as they were written by freakin pete wentz

i find them almost more affecting because they were written by freakin pete wentz? the dude's a part-time punchline and he has this finely finely honed ability to capture these moments of being trapped in the tangle of your emotions and your reason and your behaviour and your justifications, and the consciousness of absurdity saves it from being just self-pity.

Why did this album fail commercially / on the radio - bad choice of singles, moment passing, or ...?

there is something dense and close about this album which makes it almost off-putting? 'cork tree' is so light and airy by comparison. but mostly i think it was moment-passing stuff: something else has taken that spot, of being popularly disrespected* and highly beloved.

* you can't even say 'critically underloved' bcz there are people like Maura Johnston etc who've consistently repped, but there is a general alt-rock consensus that this stuff isn't worthy of respect, and that reputation has lasted while the massive crowd of kids who loved it despite have dwindled or moved on.

marcus junius ubiquitus (c sharp major), Saturday, 4 February 2012 12:15 (thirteen years ago)

I get the feeling that e.g. the last MCR album did better than Folie? No evidence to back this up though. I'd just assumed the large generational cohort behind the popularity of their prior two albums would have seen them comfortably coast decent numbers for Folie (cf this Nitsuh column), but no dice.

(ps: DJP to thread! I remember you enjoying Patrick Stump's solo work - did you dip back into FoB?)

etc, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:36 (thirteen years ago)

Hm, I still think "Coffee's for Closers" is the best thing on here but there's some good stuff. Not sure what to make of the production or some of the stylistic fusions.

Also, this doesn't seem to suggest that this was exactly a commercial failure, at least in the US, although it marked a drop from the sales of the previous albums:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folie_à_Deux_(album)#Weekly_charts

Cork Tree went 2x platinum, Infinity went 1x platinum, and this went gold.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:19 (thirteen years ago)

(Re drop in sales, I'm guessing other people agreed with me about this:

Not sure what to make of the production or some of the stylistic fusions.)

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)

it was a total failure commercially, yeah. if you look at the chart performance of the singles, i feel like there's a really clear arc of them doing well on rock radio, then pop radio too, then rock radio kind of abandoning them as 'too pop' and pop radio moving shortly after, so they went from crossover stars to not particularly welcome on either side of the gap in record time.

but yes, amazing album, still listen to it all the time. will have to think about my vote.

pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:26 (thirteen years ago)

"20 dollar nosebleed" is a cool horns & piano pop song

which sort of launches from the style of panic at the disco's pretty. odd / brendan urie guests on that particular track. kind of a neat synergistic fbr moment

― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Friday, February 3, 2012 10:02 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

btw this is bull, it's in the exact same style as the (also great) last song on Infinity, fuck PATD anyway

pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:28 (thirteen years ago)

dude pretty. odd is awesome but okay

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

i mean yeah that last song on infinity had horns and shit, i just feel "20 dollar nose bleed" way more inhabits a beatles-esque pop thing, a mode that panic were also working in at the time

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

i just don't want to give PATD credit for anything, h8 them always

although maybe not as much lately as Gym Class Heroes and Cobra Starship. why is Stump like the only Decaydance alumnus that couldn't score a big pop hit last year?

some dude, Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:44 (thirteen years ago)

the cobra starship and gym class heroes records that were practically half-written by stump (viva la cobra and the quilt respectively) are both great, incidentally. and the other half of the quilt is written by terius.

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

ok we should stay on the topic of FOB, i like you and don't enjoy seeing you suffer the shame of outing yourself as a Travie McCoy stan

some dude, Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:47 (thirteen years ago)

dude as soon as both bands disentangled from patrick stump production they became irredeemably terrible

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:49 (thirteen years ago)

dom used to rep hard for this yeah? rip dom. anyway this (and the band) are prob one of my top 10 albums/acts of the 00s

dayo, Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:54 (thirteen years ago)

dom started the 'infinity on high' thread IIRC

J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 February 2012 19:56 (thirteen years ago)

i'm begging you, stop before you say the first Tyga album was 'slept on' (xpost)

some dude, Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:12 (thirteen years ago)

j0rdan, if you still haven't gotten around to From Under the Cork Tree I will :/ at you.

I mean, Folie a Deux is great and so is Infinity On High (probably better than Cork Tree, esp. at the pop fusion stuff they do here), but it's a three-album-run of greatness. Not two.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

and this will be a tough call.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i realized yesterday that i still need to do that

J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:21 (thirteen years ago)

:/

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:29 (thirteen years ago)

'the ribbon on my wrist says do not open before christmas'

'we only good 'cause you can have almost famous friends / besides, we've got such good fashion sense'

& other histrionic gems.

it's wentz before he toned it down.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:30 (thirteen years ago)

cork tree is cool but it's my least favorite of their albums

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:37 (thirteen years ago)

also it's totally a four album run

can't think of a pop punk album more tightly constructed than take this to your grave

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

I actually haven't heard take this to your grave

Feel free to :/

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:40 (thirteen years ago)

:/

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:41 (thirteen years ago)

i still have this on my itunes :S

'what a catch' almost w/o hesitation but now im thinking mb i should relisten to it

Lamp, Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

Is 'evening out with your girlfriend' worth a spin?

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:42 (thirteen years ago)

someday i'll appreciate in value
get off my ass and call you

but for the meantime i'll sport my brand new fashion
of waking up with pants on at 4:00 in the afternoon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khb1bmJmhVQ

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:43 (thirteen years ago)

Is 'evening out with your girlfriend' worth a spin?

never listened :/

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

just realized that the 'nobody puts baby in a corner' line is "i keep my jealous close / cause" and not "i keep my jealousy cross-court"

also, total thread derail.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:44 (thirteen years ago)

lol @ pete wentz pretending he can sing in that video

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:46 (thirteen years ago)

also, total thread derail.

totally, but i also think it's interesting how the same band that made folie a deux, three albums prior, just really wanted to make a record as good as the get up kids' four minute mile

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

everybody otm about pete wentz's lyrics

'i will never end up like him / behind my back, i already am'

also:

"preach electric to the microphone stand" is a pretty good lyric imo.

― dayo, Wednesday, September 1, 2010 6:13 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark

dayo, Saturday, 4 February 2012 20:58 (thirteen years ago)

w.a.m.s is a deep album cut

dayo, Saturday, 4 February 2012 21:28 (thirteen years ago)

After a couple more listens, you guys are right: this album is actually great. Much more ambitious and sophisticated than Cork Tree. Great vocal performance.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 5 February 2012 00:55 (thirteen years ago)

amazing perfect classic songs, could vote for any of these:
1. "Disloyal Order of Water Buffaloes" 4:17
6. "The (Shipped) Gold Standard" 3:19
7. "(Coffee's for Closers)" 4:35

also great but on a slightly lower tier:
4. "America's Suitehearts" 3:34
10. "Tiffany Blews" 3:44
12. "20 Dollar Nose Bleed" 4:17

good but I have to be in the mood for them:
5. "Headfirst Slide into Cooperstown on a Bad Bet" 3:54
9. "27" 3:12
11. "w.a.m.s." 4:38
13. "West Coast Smoker" 2:46

don't especially like but still wouldn't skip past if not in a hurry:
2. "I Don't Care" 3:34
3. "She's My Winona" 3:51
8. "What a Catch, Donnie" 4:51

some dude, Sunday, 5 February 2012 01:18 (thirteen years ago)

i was all rmde at the guest appearances at the time but in retrospect it's so perfect for this to be the only album in history to feature both Elvis Costello and Lil Wayne

some dude, Sunday, 5 February 2012 01:20 (thirteen years ago)

god "Coffee's For Closers" is ridiculous, i feel like not many songs keep up that kind of relentless pace of hook after hook for over 4 minutes

some dude, Sunday, 5 February 2012 01:34 (thirteen years ago)

Totally. This must be OTM, btw, since I never heard any of these songs until today!:

if you look at the chart performance of the singles, i feel like there's a really clear arc of them doing well on rock radio, then pop radio too, then rock radio kind of abandoning them as 'too pop' and pop radio moving shortly after, so they went from crossover stars to not particularly welcome on either side of the gap in record time.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 5 February 2012 01:50 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah. That's really accurate. It sort of baffles me that pop radio had space for something like 'Arms Race' or 'Mmrs'

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 5 February 2012 02:29 (thirteen years ago)

And shortly before that, the hey day of pop-punk - Good Charlotte, sum41, etc.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 5 February 2012 02:29 (thirteen years ago)

this is the best FOB they ever did, sort of crushes me that it wasn't the massive massive MASSIVE moneymachine chart hit it deserved to be. love everything on it except for "W.A.M.S" and "west coast smoker". the five-song run from "the (shipped) gold standard" through "tiffany blews" kills me every time. have a hard time picking between "i don't care", "(coffee's for closers)", "27" and "20 dollar nose bleed". but $20 just for the hell of it.

"This Ain't a Scene..." kind of turned me off.

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, February 3, 2012 11:41 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so insane.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 5 February 2012 03:03 (thirteen years ago)

"FOB they" = "thing FOB", or something

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 5 February 2012 03:04 (thirteen years ago)

I'm downloading Infinity now.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 5 February 2012 03:13 (thirteen years ago)

infinity and folie are weird in that they both offer up an astonishing pop-crossover attempt right off the bat ("this ain't a scene" and "i don't care") but then tread water for a while and really come into their own only about halfway through (with "thnks fr the mmrs" and "the (shipped) gold standard"). is it that they think the fans expect the more generic stuff and frontload with it for that reason, or that they know they're badass enough to hold their best shit for the home stretch?

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 5 February 2012 03:54 (thirteen years ago)

kind of think you're alone in regarding the lead singles as some of the best things on the albums, and i definitely don't understand your view of the running orders in general (although FAD does get really great at the halfway mark)

some dude, Sunday, 5 February 2012 04:22 (thirteen years ago)

"America's Suitehearts" probably could've been big since it's the closest they ever came to rewriting "Sugar, We're Going Down" but god that terrible video

some dude, Sunday, 5 February 2012 04:25 (thirteen years ago)

kind of think you're alone in regarding the lead singles as some of the best things on the albums...

― some dude, Saturday, February 4, 2012 8:22 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well, me and whoever picks lead singles

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 5 February 2012 04:52 (thirteen years ago)

you can't even say 'critically underloved' bcz there are people like Maura Johnston etc who've consistently repped

Who apart from Maura/Al (& that ex-Idolator/current-Village Voice kind've crew), critic-wise, repped for this? FoB/MCR/etc seemed like such a huge critical blind spot for the Pitchfork umbrella*, and it's a shame that they're likely to undergo some sort of Hall & Oates**-style period of neglect before getting their dues.

* twentysomethings disdaining "teenage" music, etc
** good reference point for Patrick Stump, actuallly

etc, Monday, 6 February 2012 09:24 (thirteen years ago)

I repped for it but got onto the album too late to pitch to pitchfork; and I'm guessing scott p would have been conscious about running a late review and what that would have been perceived to mean, if I had pitched anyway.

Tim F, Monday, 6 February 2012 09:34 (thirteen years ago)

yeah i mean i was one of the 6 voters the album got in Pazz & Jop in '08, which is more votes than a lot of albums got but by no means a major groundswell, and of course you have to play the 'what if' game with an album that dropped in mid-December

some dude, Monday, 6 February 2012 12:08 (thirteen years ago)

also one of the other voters (not Tim) writes for Pitchfork! but i really think they never would've run a review no matter who pitched it when, that's how they roll for better or worse

some dude, Monday, 6 February 2012 12:10 (thirteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 10 February 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

man, "she's my wynona" sticks in my head like nobody's business

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 10 February 2012 00:08 (thirteen years ago)

Would it be fair to say that this was FOB's Hysteria (in artistic, not commercial, terms)?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 10 February 2012 02:30 (thirteen years ago)

voted 'What A Catch' because the hook in that chorus, and Stump's vox...the whole thing still slays me.

and I get such a huge kick out of the arc of those 4 albums. Cork and Infinity kind of blend together for me, and then Grave and Folie are the nice raw/polished bookends. Love me some FOB.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 February 2012 02:37 (thirteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

wtf is this turnout

johnny crunch, Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:07 (thirteen years ago)

:,(

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:09 (thirteen years ago)

I forgot to vote, I think

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:09 (thirteen years ago)

saddest poll ever

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:27 (thirteen years ago)

I can't remember if I voted now! I thought I did. (However, I've been playing this almost constantly since I downloaded it. So the thread was definitely not a waste.)

Did two other people vote for "Coffee's for Closers"?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 11 February 2012 02:46 (thirteen years ago)

i voted 'coffees 4 closers'

couldve easily voted 'headfirst slide' & cant blieve it got 0 votes

johnny crunch, Saturday, 11 February 2012 02:54 (thirteen years ago)

yah put me down for headfirst slide

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Saturday, 11 February 2012 02:55 (thirteen years ago)

i also thought i voted for "coffee's for closers"

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:32 (thirteen years ago)

but maybe i forgot to vote because i don't know anymore

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:32 (thirteen years ago)

yeah me too -- idk ilx polls can get wonky imo or else i just almost always forget to vote

J0rdan S., Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:34 (thirteen years ago)

i've been listening to 'cork tree' this week... cool record, def like it less than the two that followed tho. it's funny to hear them so pop punk, like some drum sounds that could be on a blink record, and then there's these two MASSIVE singles. "nobody puts baby in the corner" is my favorite song even tho it has some o__O lyrics all over the place... esp the outro

J0rdan S., Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:35 (thirteen years ago)

or i guess it's a bridge

J0rdan S., Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:35 (thirteen years ago)

I really like Infinity the more I listen to it...everything sounds so big & meaty

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:42 (thirteen years ago)

thx tthread for making me listen to and enjoy this rec, jerks

bear, bear, bear, Sunday, 19 February 2012 14:14 (thirteen years ago)

anyway it's p sweet who knew not me

bear, bear, bear, Sunday, 19 February 2012 14:15 (thirteen years ago)

cheerz

illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 19 February 2012 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

your welcome

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Sunday, 19 February 2012 22:16 (thirteen years ago)

six months pass...

best album

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 September 2012 19:36 (thirteen years ago)

yup

J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 September 2012 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

yep

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 15 September 2012 20:17 (thirteen years ago)

uh huh

i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Saturday, 15 September 2012 20:47 (thirteen years ago)

^^^

Tim F, Sunday, 16 September 2012 04:16 (thirteen years ago)

Yet another album I never would have listened to without ILM.

MikoMcha, Sunday, 16 September 2012 12:45 (thirteen years ago)

I still kind of have mixed feelings about it though.

MikoMcha, Sunday, 16 September 2012 12:46 (thirteen years ago)

blows my mind that there's a rock song w/ Lil Wayne on it that's actually pretty great

nutrition aziz (some dude), Sunday, 16 September 2012 12:47 (thirteen years ago)

Jay-Z intro to Infinity On High is another awesome/bizarre moment...

MikoMcha, Sunday, 16 September 2012 12:50 (thirteen years ago)

that Jay cameo being so awkward and half-assed is the reason why the Wayne cameo surprised me

nutrition aziz (some dude), Sunday, 16 September 2012 12:57 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/CJbCk.jpg

barthes simpson, Sunday, 16 September 2012 13:00 (thirteen years ago)

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mabj98z9oL1qmh3mto1_500.jpg

nutrition aziz (some dude), Sunday, 16 September 2012 13:03 (thirteen years ago)

Well yeah, the Wayne cameo is obviously far superior.

I only realized this morning that Pharrell produced Folie à Deux.

MikoMcha, Sunday, 16 September 2012 13:04 (thirteen years ago)

he only did "w.a.m.s."

nutrition aziz (some dude), Sunday, 16 September 2012 13:27 (thirteen years ago)

Pretty great Debbie Harry AND Lil Wayne cameos on this (compared to, I guess, Liza Minnelli turning up on Black Parade?)

etc, Sunday, 16 September 2012 13:30 (thirteen years ago)

he only did "w.a.m.s."

Ah, OK. You're right. I was reading an old review of the record this morning that seemed to imply he did the whole thing.

MikoMcha, Sunday, 16 September 2012 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

seven months pass...

it was an extreme pleasure to discover the two "new" tracks on the believers never die comp, which i had never listened to before, are as good as anything on folie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw3rOMVQp1o

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 April 2013 14:26 (twelve years ago)

three months pass...

guys

markers, Saturday, 3 August 2013 18:24 (twelve years ago)

time doesn't care about anyone or anything

markers, Saturday, 3 August 2013 18:24 (twelve years ago)

I WILL NEVER BELIEVE IN ANYTHING AGAIN

markers, Saturday, 3 August 2013 18:25 (twelve years ago)

otm

the pen is mightier than the penisword (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 August 2013 21:26 (twelve years ago)

this is the best album ever

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 4 August 2013 18:19 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

2013 is my Fall Out Boy discovery year. Finally got to this one. B-b-b-b-b-benzedrine! Oh hell yes!

how's life, Saturday, 14 September 2013 00:52 (twelve years ago)

welcome!

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 September 2013 01:45 (twelve years ago)

four months pass...

ooo baby you're a classic

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 1 February 2014 18:59 (eleven years ago)

blows my mind that there's a rock song w/ Lil Wayne on it that's actually pretty great

otm

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 1 February 2014 19:00 (eleven years ago)

ilm stanning for this album is truly one of its shining moments

een, Saturday, 1 February 2014 19:11 (eleven years ago)

being acknowledged by Wentz on twitter and immediately being like YO PETE FOLIE A DEUX WAS A CLASSIC was one of my shining moments of the last few months

scott c-word (some dude), Saturday, 1 February 2014 19:24 (eleven years ago)

i'm not
a crybaby
i'm
THE
crybaby

i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 1 February 2014 19:31 (eleven years ago)

"nobody puts baby in the corner" is my favorite song even tho it has some o__O lyrics all over the place... esp the outro

― J0rdan S., Friday, February 10, 2012 9:35 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha i can never keep the titles on cork tree straight; is this the one that goes SO WEAR ME LIKE A LOCKET AROUND YOUR THROAT / I'LL WEIGH YOU DOWN I'LL WATCH YOU CHOKE / YOU LOOK SO GOOD IN BLUE / YOU LOOK SOOOOO GOOD IN BLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUE cuz yeah

i prefer cork to infinity (i don't blame you / for being you / but you can't blame me / for HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATING it) but folie is another thing entirely. singing along to this band is The Most Fun, Ever

i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 1 February 2014 19:56 (eleven years ago)

yes, yes it is

le goon (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 1 February 2014 20:51 (eleven years ago)

being acknowledged by Wentz on twitter and immediately being like YO PETE FOLIE A DEUX WAS A CLASSIC was one of my shining moments of the last few months

― scott c-word (some dude), Saturday, February 1, 2014 1:24 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

damn, doing the lord's work

een, Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:14 (eleven years ago)

i almost wrote wentz an email after he posted that sad (well, self-pitying, but it is fall out boy) thing abt folie's reception and the subsequent tour and his solo album and etc.. wish i had. pete! folie a deux! i liked it!

i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:21 (eleven years ago)

i mean lol patrick stump. fuck pete wentz i guess.

i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:21 (eleven years ago)

Folie A Deux/Soul Punk is probably my favorite pair of back-to-back albums any one person has made in the last decade, it's really heartbreaking to hear the personal toll the reaction to those albums took on Patrick. at least the FOB comeback was kind of a happy conclusion to that period, but it still galls me that the world not only ignored those albums but actively made him miserable about them.

scott c-word (some dude), Saturday, 1 February 2014 21:31 (eleven years ago)

terrific album

Ramona, Sunday, 2 February 2014 05:03 (eleven years ago)

two months pass...

oh baby, when they made me, they broke the mold
girls used to follow me around when i got cold

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:27 (eleven years ago)

destined to bump this thread every two months

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:27 (eleven years ago)

I will never believe in anything agaaaAAAAAAaaaaaAAAAAAiiinn

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:29 (eleven years ago)

3 2 1 we go live

take a piece of mr. baxter's hand (how's life), Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:33 (eleven years ago)

10 whole votes, huh.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:34 (eleven years ago)

my body is an orphanage
we take everyone in

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:36 (eleven years ago)

are we gonna have some kind of Monumentour fap or multi-show ilx road trip?

some dude, Thursday, 10 April 2014 23:50 (eleven years ago)

omg

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 11 April 2014 02:47 (eleven years ago)

one month passes...

as soon as we hit the hospital i know we're gonna leave this town
and get new passports and get, get, get, get, get out now

etc, Monday, 12 May 2014 10:30 (eleven years ago)

wish i didn't i didn't i didn't i didn't i didn't i didn't i didn't i don't
just want to be a footnote
in someone else's happiness

difficult listening hour, Monday, 12 May 2014 16:06 (eleven years ago)

five months pass...

little girl, you got me staring odd
or was that just a telescopic camera nod

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 7 November 2014 21:49 (eleven years ago)

the fact that disloyal order of water buffaloes didn't win this is blasphemous, even if coffee for closers is also pretty fuckin great

ichabron crames (slothroprhymes), Friday, 7 November 2014 21:50 (eleven years ago)

so I know nothing about FOB, but I did d/l this album because ILM, and I had Winamp on shuffle and this bombass awesome rock ballad type song comes on and I'm like what the fuck is this, and it was "What a Catch, Donnie". so different than what I had expected.

shoot skag listen to sotl (rip van wanko), Friday, 7 November 2014 21:54 (eleven years ago)

it's a jam! that's my favorite song on the album

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 8 November 2014 03:46 (eleven years ago)

Wrong album, but since this is the top FOB thead at the moment - I just heard "Snitches and Talkers..." for he first time today. Good song - new fave, actually - but I was struck by the use of the phrase "why put a new address on the same old loneliness" - doesn't that come from a Songs: Ohia track? I thought at first there was some older common origin they both knicked it from, but some quick googling turned up a thread on a MEC forum where Molina had this to say. Made me a bit sad:

These lyrics were stolen from me. I heard it first on the stereo at the Brown Elephant Charity shop in Chicago. I almost dropped the Elton John records I was buying. It really has hurt my feelings that this band has stolen these lyrics. I am owed.

Simon H., Saturday, 8 November 2014 06:08 (eleven years ago)

Err, wrong track, it's at the end of "Get Busy Living..."

Simon H., Saturday, 8 November 2014 06:13 (eleven years ago)

pete also borrowed a bunch of lyrics from the cold cave dude on infinity on high

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 November 2014 06:21 (eleven years ago)

really tender detail about the elton john records there. dang

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 November 2014 06:21 (eleven years ago)

one year passes...

head like a steel trap
wish i didn't
i didn't
i didn't
i didn't
i didn't
i didn't
i didn't
i don't

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Saturday, 12 December 2015 22:33 (ten years ago)

...just want to be a footNOTE in someone else's happinesssss

def the best FOB song

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Saturday, 12 December 2015 22:35 (ten years ago)

one year passes...

the only thing suicidal here is the door

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 December 2017 14:55 (eight years ago)

eight months pass...

turns out this record is pretty great. think “headfirst slide” is my pick.

k3vin k., Tuesday, 4 September 2018 04:40 (seven years ago)

Correct choice. I feel like that is perhaps the song on their discography that both captures everything that is archetypally good about this band while also capturing that one of those things is how they're always reaching towards some other archetype (I recognise this is a somewhat paradoxical statement).

Tim F, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 04:50 (seven years ago)

the build up of "headfirst slide" is one of the best moments on the album

was listening to this again for a few days last week. would still vote "the (shipped) gold standard" & i still love "what a catch, donnie" ... i just really like the big broad sentimental lyrics on this album ("you can only blame your problems on the world for so long / before it all becomes the same old song" and "i've got troubled thoughts and a self-esteem to match"). also other emo vocalists singing back their hooks is oddly affecting to me now.

the one i was loving recently that i never considered a favorite was "she's my winona" ... "the only thing suicidal here is the door" is an all time great wentz lyric & the guitars are really cool throughout

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 4 September 2018 06:05 (seven years ago)

think mine is "winona" too... the band's annotation for the sharp line "we didn't come to compete / this is a demonstration":

"the idea that you are no longer competing. that you believe in yourself so much that its just a demonstration of your will. like a little zen michael jordan."

lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 12:33 (seven years ago)

have an esp soft spot for "america's suitehearts" for the way he says "why why why" like it's some sort of scat and elongates "cla-a-a-a-a-assic cars", and "27" the arc of the chorus

lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 12:36 (seven years ago)

("too" as in also recent appreciation)

lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 12:39 (seven years ago)

two months pass...

We def aren’t hurt about it and weren’t booed off stage ever for it- I wanna set that straight. I think there are ebbs and flows of every creative career... fad is one of my favorite albums of ours. I have the original painting of it I walk by every day ❤️

— pw (@petewentz) November 17, 2018

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 24 November 2018 01:49 (seven years ago)

“(coffee’s for closers)” and “disloyal order” are always the peaks for me but this is an album of peaks. “tiffany blews” is an incredible song for instance

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 24 November 2018 01:50 (seven years ago)

aw

what is good FOB if you're one of the 10 people on earth who thinks 'young and menace' is p much the best thing he's heard from them

imago, Saturday, 24 November 2018 01:52 (seven years ago)

i'm not
a crybaby
i'm
THE
crybaby

― i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Saturday, February 1, 2014 12:31 PM (four years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

legendary

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 24 November 2018 01:52 (seven years ago)

lj you may like this album? the instrumentation is very traditionally rock but the songs are all weird and extremely catchy

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 24 November 2018 01:53 (seven years ago)

will listen tomorrow ty

imago, Saturday, 24 November 2018 01:54 (seven years ago)

it’s such a good album in the classic sense ie you can listen all the way through & the songs all flow together well etc

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 November 2018 02:43 (seven years ago)

yeah i remember first time i heard it the level of compression made it hard to get into, but the flow p quickly justified that sound for me as an overarching humid atmosphere

lowercase (eric), Saturday, 24 November 2018 02:51 (seven years ago)

was listening to this recently... still really holds up

J0rdan S., Saturday, 24 November 2018 04:58 (seven years ago)

still crazy to me "she's my winona" got 0 votes

J0rdan S., Saturday, 24 November 2018 04:59 (seven years ago)

the high hopes song that is on the radio 24/7 now sounds like it could be on this album imo

johnny crunch, Saturday, 24 November 2018 05:23 (seven years ago)

ten months pass...

you could have knocked
me out
with a
f
e
a
t
h
e
r

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 10:02 (six years ago)

come together
come apart
only get lonely when you read the charts

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 10:12 (six years ago)

never the same person when i go to sleep
as when i wake up
as when i wake up

― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Friday, February 3, 2012 8:21 PM (seven years ago) bookmarkflaglink

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 12:11 (six years ago)

follow this disorganized religion of my head
and we'll never get through customs, let's just take off again instead

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 12:19 (six years ago)

seven months pass...

hi y'all this is the best album ever made

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 4 May 2020 19:35 (five years ago)

AGREE

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 4 May 2020 19:53 (five years ago)

ten months pass...

as soon as we hit the hospital
i know we’re gonna leave this town (we’re never gonna leave this town)
and get new passports and get
get
get
get out, get
get
get
get out nowwwwww

difficult listening hour, Friday, 5 March 2021 22:43 (four years ago)

YES OTM

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 March 2021 00:52 (four years ago)

damn gonna need to put this on soon

J0rdan S., Saturday, 6 March 2021 01:24 (four years ago)

weird coincidence, I put FOB on shuffle for the first time in many months at almost the exact time of this revive

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Saturday, 6 March 2021 01:34 (four years ago)

one year passes...

but DON'T let the DOCtor
don't let the DOCtor iiiiiin

uberweiss, Sunday, 20 March 2022 02:28 (three years ago)

butterfly BANdage but don’t WORRRRYYYYY

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 20 March 2022 03:13 (three years ago)

when he walks into the room
the walls lean in to listen

surfed
out
brain
waves
flick back and forth
like old
head
lights
sniffing model glue again

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 March 2022 13:12 (three years ago)

i'm a loose bolt (loose bolt)
of a complete machiiiiiine
what a match: i'm half-doomed and you're semi-
swee-eee-eee-eeeeeeeeet

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 20 March 2022 20:26 (three years ago)

DETOX

JUST TO RETOX

DETOX

JUST TO RETOX

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 20 March 2022 22:00 (three years ago)

nine months pass...

say my name and his in the same breath
i dare you to say they taste the same
let the leaves fall off in the summer
and let december glow in flames

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 13 January 2023 15:21 (two years ago)

there should be way more songs in the world that sound like "headfirst slide"

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 13 January 2023 15:32 (two years ago)

alas, only one

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 13 January 2023 15:32 (two years ago)

it’s still incredible every time i listen to it

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 13 January 2023 15:36 (two years ago)

so boyyyyyycotttt loooooove

sault bae (voodoo chili), Friday, 13 January 2023 15:45 (two years ago)

if home is where the heart is then we’re all just fucked

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 13 January 2023 16:12 (two years ago)

soon as we hit the HOSpiTAL i know we’re gonna leave this town

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 13 January 2023 18:41 (two years ago)

Tell that boy I'll leave you alone, now
Like a stove I'll turn my love down
Supra and the prophet are both in the business of souls

^^love this part

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 13 January 2023 18:43 (two years ago)

one month passes...

YOUR PUPILS! (big)
BIG! (roll)
THEY'RE ROLLING LIKE DICE!

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 26 February 2023 23:16 (two years ago)

one year passes...

FELL OUTTA BED
BUTTERFLY BANDAGE BUT DONT WORRYYYYY

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 January 2025 02:37 (eleven months ago)

HEY EDITOR
I'M UNDENIABLE
HEY DOCTOR
I'M CERTIFIABLE

ivy., Saturday, 18 January 2025 17:54 (eleven months ago)

how is this album still so perfect and awesome HOW

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 January 2025 21:27 (eleven months ago)

eleven months pass...

all the rookies leave your badge and your gun on the desk when you leave the roooooooooom

ivy., Wednesday, 31 December 2025 21:09 (one week ago)


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