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OptionVotes
I Can See for Miles 27
I Can't Reach You 16
Armenia City in the Sky 13
Our Love Was 6
Mary Anne with the Shaky Hand 6
Tattoo 5
Odorono 1
Relax 1
Medac 1
Heinz Baked Beans 1
Rael (1 and 2) 1
Silas Stingy 0
Sunrise 0


dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:08 (thirteen years ago)

This is my favorite Who album by a long shot

harmonies 'n' novelties

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:09 (thirteen years ago)

would love to see SIlas Stingy or Relax walk this but it won't happen
money money moneybags

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:09 (thirteen years ago)

I like the Patra Haden albumn where she does a capella covers of these songs, too.

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:10 (thirteen years ago)

Petra?

So we have five months to chose?

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:17 (thirteen years ago)

well tbh the album is five months long

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:18 (thirteen years ago)

First pick is "Our Love Was" but I will wait a few months to see if I still feel the same

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:19 (thirteen years ago)

always liked the US title of the song -- "Our Love Was, Is"

but this is "I Can't Reach You" for me

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:23 (thirteen years ago)

"Mary Anne with the Shaky Hand"

timellison, Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:23 (thirteen years ago)

one of my favorite albums ever!

Tattoo might be the greatest thing Townshend (or anybody) ever wrote

gospodin simmel, Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:25 (thirteen years ago)

"I Can't Reach You"--probably the first song I'd turn to if I had to explain the Who's brilliance from '65 to '67 to someone.

clemenza, Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:27 (thirteen years ago)

But if "I Can See for Miles" or "Tattoo" were to win, that'd be fine.

clemenza, Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:29 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, I Can't Reach You/I Can See for Miles/Tattoo for top 3

gospodin simmel, Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:31 (thirteen years ago)

Greatest thing the Who ever did was their cover of "Man with the Money." It's the male bonding of "I'm a Boy" taken even farther and remembering the brother in jail.

timellison, Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:34 (thirteen years ago)

Hard to choose. best who album by far. Kind of leaning towards Rael

lost dion/tomita collab (blank), Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:41 (thirteen years ago)

always loved "sunrise" even tho it's kinda barely what you think of when you think of the who.

tylerw, Saturday, 18 February 2012 03:02 (thirteen years ago)

yes! "sometimes I wonder if this will go on my life through".

lost dion/tomita collab (blank), Saturday, 18 February 2012 03:04 (thirteen years ago)

best who album, totally out of the classic rock canon except for "i can see for miles" so it still seems fresh when you first listen to it

buzza, Saturday, 18 February 2012 03:30 (thirteen years ago)

More than any other Who record, this has the songs that people react to with, "That's the Who?!"

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:25 (thirteen years ago)

I heard this after absorbing Who's Next and their 12/17/82 Toronto show (I taped the radio broadcast, and wore out said tape when I was 10). It was so strikingly (and hilariously -- they were the funniest band of their era) different to what I knew them to be, but was unmistakably the Who. I remember thinking, "I think we'll be seeing a lot more of each other over the next 20 years or so."

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:33 (thirteen years ago)

Mono mix of "Our Love Was," with Daltrey singing co-lead with Townshend, and a pedal steel (!) solo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxOEcvtQaEM

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:34 (thirteen years ago)

outtake "Jaguar," on which Moon sings lead. Moon and Townshend got in a huge fight about whether or not this would go on the record. Townshend won, hence "Sunrise."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwD3OvMTq8A

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:36 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrBi4q_9Ji4&feature=related

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:46 (thirteen years ago)

Armenia

ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Saturday, 18 February 2012 05:49 (thirteen years ago)

'Odorono'... while The Beatles were singing about Lucy in the sky, The Stones were asking where the joint was, and The Kinks were singing about Waterloo sunsets, The Who were writing songs about chicks with stinky armpits.

Turrican, Saturday, 18 February 2012 06:03 (thirteen years ago)

For those who need closure (at 2:30)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLBF4CEBFAF6064AE2&feature=player_detailpage&v=NtnKAKgN7f8#t=150s

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 06:12 (thirteen years ago)

Voted "Relax" for the same reason I'd vote "Blue Jay Way" on MMT. These days I'm a sucker for droney British keyboard psych.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 18 February 2012 06:57 (thirteen years ago)

I heard this after absorbing Who's Next and their 12/17/82 Toronto show

I'm trying to figure out if I was at that show or not. I've still got the ticket stub for May 6, 1980 at Maple Leaf Gardens. I'm positive I saw them once more, but I thought it was earlier, which doesn't seem to be the case checking around online. So that may have been the other time.

clemenza, Saturday, 18 February 2012 14:57 (thirteen years ago)

IIRC, back in the ancient times of AOR, none of these tracks ever got played on the radio at all except "I Can See For Miles." Whereas practically every track on Who's Next got played all the time and "Won't Get Fooled Again" would always top the annual listeners poll on WNEW-FM in NYC.

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:08 (thirteen years ago)

Hm, I guess it was only number 6 in 1987 The 1987 WNEW-FM Top 1027 Songs of All Time Listener's Poll

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

I've never heard anything from Who Sell Out other than "I Can See for Miles" on the radio, not even once. But I don't think I've ever heard a non-hit from any of the early albums on the radio, so it may not be any different from everything pre-Tommy in that regard. Album tracks are reserved for Who's Next, Tommy, and Quadrophenia.

clemenza, Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:23 (thirteen years ago)

Yes, exactly. But also Who Are You, no?

Continuing on this radio theme I came across something about Scott Muni just now with a funny story about a John Entwistle interview. Also some other stuff including a great quote from Rosko.

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)

Meant to post the link, which is here: http://www.areuonsomething.com/features_muni.html

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

If you can ever find this, it's got all (or at least most) of the original radio spots on Who Sell Out:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51pEb54b5pL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

clemenza, Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:29 (thirteen years ago)

Never saw that website before. Seems old school and a little cheesy, will probably hurt the eyes of most posters here. Sorry, ILX!

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)

On a totally non-Sell Out note, Keith Moon's solo record is pretty damn silly and entertaining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HlMIhR6ckQ

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:45 (thirteen years ago)

Never actually got around to hearing the Petra Haden version. Let me see what I can find on the intranetz.

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:51 (thirteen years ago)

i've been listening to this lately, and getting to like parts of it, but a lot of it seems so thin. in comparison to 'miles', which is MASSIVE.

j., Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNFoNBz9Dbs

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:54 (thirteen years ago)

There was one track on a magazine sampler, and I ordered the CD on the back of that (only five times, maybe, that's happened)

A few places she mispronounces lyrics, as she did this purely by having the album on two tracks of a multitrack, and vocalising on all the others. (She''d not heard it before)

As you say upthread, I'd not heard any of the tracks anyplace apart from 'c4miles', until I found the double-lp version with 'quick one' for inexpensive...

The mono, eh? Will have to track it down. I know 'quick one' came out on CD in mono at first, then they found the stereo master tape and reissued it without fanfare or changing the packaging at all.

Mark G, Saturday, 18 February 2012 15:59 (thirteen years ago)

I remember the first time I heard the album "Sunrise" really sounding spookily beautiful.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)

"Sunrise" was a bit of a setlist surprise to me when I saw them in 1982.

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

http://open.spotify.com/album/5jSo2xyFarf1dPsn1mwnw6
Would also like to hear some of those albums she and her siblings did with her dad of old country tunes and such. Speaking of whom, did you end up going to see Ravi Coltrane with the Jensen sisters, clemenza? I saw him once with Charlie Haden's Quartet West (although he called it "Quartet East" that night) and it was pretty cool.

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:08 (thirteen years ago)

No, unfortunately--a lot of marking that weekend, and the one friend who might've gone with me wasn't interested.

I've been listening to that pirate-radio compilation I posted above. Very disorienting for anyone who knows Sell Out well. Hearing the "It's smooth sailing with the highly successful sound" spot, you automatically transition to "Me and my brother were talkin' to each other" in your mind; here, the spot leads into the Sorrows' "Take a Heart."

clemenza, Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqqoekGwtwk

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:23 (thirteen years ago)

I've heard a lot of live Who, but can't recall them ever doing many songs from Sell Out which is a damn shame. That free-form feedback delay freak-out in the middle of Relax is a wonder to hear.

leavethecapital, Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, that was cool. I've heard they do "Tatoo" sometimes

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

Other than "I Can See For Miles," which they almost never played live until the 80s, the only songs from Sell Out that made it into their shows were "Tattoo" (through 1974, and a handful of times on the 1982 tour); "Relax" (on their 1968 tours, and last played as part of an end-of-show improvisation in 1976); and "Mary Anne With The Shaky Hands" (played a few times on the 1989 tour).

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

I guess I misremembered the show I saw (Birmingham AL, Nov 1982) -- they played "Tattoo" but not "Sunrise," according to thewholive.net

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:49 (thirteen years ago)

I was gonna say, I'd never heard of them ever doing "Sunrise" live. I think Pete's done it once or twice in his solo shows, though.

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

The final "Relax"...sort of...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Y15J_D9zw

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:59 (thirteen years ago)

The more i think about it the more I want to change my vote to one song, then another, then another. This is basically an entire album of hidden gems + one radio hit. Even that silly first song is amazing.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)

It's kind of a shame they went all serious messianic rock after this. In an alternate universe the Who skipped Tommy and became like a more psychedelic and operatic Kinks.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:09 (thirteen years ago)

I was gonna say, when I first started listening to them, in line with the orthodoxy of the time that I subscribed to at the time, I embraced the youthful energy of the early hits and kept the Wagnerian bombast of the latter albums at arm's length. When I first heard this album it was kind of a third thing- almost fragile pop songs alternating with the seeming written-to-order advertising or story-explication numbers- it was almost like Sondheim. It took me a while to get used to it, but it grew to be a perennial favorite.

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 17:17 (thirteen years ago)

I think I like Tommy more than this album...like they own the "rock as musical" more fully there, & I think the hooks are consistently stronger there, for two albums w/o a lot of obvious singles. but I like this album a bunch too, prob gonna vote "Mary Anne"

Euler, Saturday, 18 February 2012 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

no one voting for 'armenia city'? that song is so huge

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Saturday, 18 February 2012 18:39 (thirteen years ago)

One difference between Tommy and the Sell Out era Who is during Sell Out Townshend wrote three minute pop mini-operas whereas later he needed four LP sides to accomplish the same thing. Despite that,I think The Who did bombast better than even the Zep.

Armenia is great.

leavethecapital, Saturday, 18 February 2012 18:45 (thirteen years ago)

Mmm, I don't hear any three minute pop mini-operas on this album unless you're counting "Odorono." "Rael" is almost six minutes.

timellison, Saturday, 18 February 2012 18:59 (thirteen years ago)

Used the term opera pretty loosely there. A better way to put it might be short stories vs novels. Either way, I prefer the conciseness of Sell Out to the sprawl of Tommy.

You reminded me there's not enough love for Rael on this thread.

leavethecapital, Saturday, 18 February 2012 19:14 (thirteen years ago)

Doesn't Rael reappear in another guise on Tommy?

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 February 2012 20:48 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, "Sparks"

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Saturday, 18 February 2012 20:52 (thirteen years ago)

Doesn't Rael appear in another guise on The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway?

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Saturday, 18 February 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

srsly tho why did they both name a songy character Rael

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Saturday, 18 February 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

The "Love love love long" bit in "Our Love Was (Is)" is pretty operatic. Likewise, I could see some clown in a cape prowling around a stage to "Silas Stingy".

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:32 (thirteen years ago)

I Can't Reach You, narrowly over Armenia

kornrulez6969, Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:41 (thirteen years ago)

should poll the reissue bonus tracks
melancholia v glow girl

i think you'd be cool to meet. i bet we'd have a lot to talk about (buzza), Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:45 (thirteen years ago)

listening again, "Sunrise" is pretty gorgeous, also want to vote for "I Can't Reach You"

lotta Pete on this album, kinda weird, guess that's one of the "talking points" of this album?

still gonna vote "Mary Anne" though I think

Euler, Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:47 (thirteen years ago)

I sometimes think of this album in tandem with Kinks "Arthur," as both seem to build up rather eclectically to a (possible) best-ever single right around the middle and then sort-of drop off, though not in any horrible way.

I think that sentimentally I'm attached to Tatoo, and the whole album is pretty great, but have to concede that I Can See For Miles is as perfect a rock single as you could want. Probably will get undervoted due to relative overexposure.

dlp9001, Saturday, 18 February 2012 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

srsly tho why did they both name a songy character Rael

iirc, Peter Gabriel was a massive Who fan, and named his character Rael as an homage. Also, Townshend's Rael is a place, not a person ("the womb of my religion/to me, the center of the earth").

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 22:53 (thirteen years ago)

should poll the reissue bonus tracks
melancholia v glow girl

The funny thing is, the Who are generally seen as not being nearly as prolific as their contemporaries, but there's at least another double album from this period lurking among the outtakes and non-LP singles/b-sides.

"Melancholia," though, is a bit of an outlier; it was recorded after Sell Out was released.

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 18 February 2012 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

Like Tommy fine but the theme is kinda heavy which seems to weigh down or lessen some of the individual songs whereas here the theme is merely a kind of a framing story, allowing for these interesting little character studies or in places just being ignored altogether.

Halfway through first listen to the PH a capella cover album, the cumulative effect is pretty amazing.

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 February 2012 00:19 (thirteen years ago)

Rejected James Redd screenname:
Sotorono

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 February 2012 00:53 (thirteen years ago)

cranked Armenia on the way home from the supermarket

i think you'd be cool to meet. i bet we'd have a lot to talk about (buzza), Sunday, 19 February 2012 01:34 (thirteen years ago)

...there's at least another double album from this period lurking among the outtakes and non-LP singles/b-sides.

― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, February 18, 2012 5:57 PM

There's a pretty remarkable 40 non-LP A- and B-sides (bolded) in their U.K singles discography:

--1964
Zoot Suit / I'm the Face (as The High Numbers)
--1965
I Can't Explain / Bald Headed Woman
Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere / Daddy Rolling Stone (UK single) / Anytime You Want Me (US single)

My Generation / Shout and Shimmy
--1966
Substitute / Circles (Instant Party)
A Legal Matter / Circles (Instant Party)
The Kids Are Alright / The Ox
I'm a Boy / In the City
La-La-La-Lies / The Good's Gone
Happy Jack / I've Been Away
Ready Steady Who EP: Disguises / Circles (Alternate Version) / Batman / Bucket T / Barbara Ann
--1967
Pictures of Lily / Doctor, Doctor
The Last Time / Under My Thumb

I Can See for Miles / Someone's Coming
--1968
Dogs / Call Me Lightning
Magic Bus / Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde

--1969
Pinball Wizard / Dogs Part 2
I'm Free / Tommy, Can You Hear Me?
--1970
The Seeker / Here For More
Summertime Blues (Live) / Heaven and Hell
See Me, Feel Me / Overture from Tommy
--1971
Won't Get Fooled Again / I Don't Even Know Myself
Let's See Action / When I Was a Boy

Behind Blue Eyes / Going Mobile
Baba O'Riley / My Wife
--1972
Join Together / Baby Don't You Do It (Live)
The Relay / Wasp Man

--1973
5.15 / Water
Love, Reign o'er Me / Water

A lot of these have been rereleased on the remastered CDs from the '90s, but there's still 7 or 8 that you can only get on some of the old rarities collections, including Entwistle's incredible "When I Was a Boy":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u64J7lTs_MU

That should have been an album cut.

And why haven't they put out a remastered version of Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy? A lot of it might be redundant if you own everything else, but it's a perfect comp, and I don't own a remastered version of "Substitute" for fuck's sake (the version on the 30 Years box is the Live at Leeds version).

Hideous Lump, Sunday, 19 February 2012 03:44 (thirteen years ago)

The Last Time/Under My Thumb?

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 February 2012 03:49 (thirteen years ago)

Yup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWf3O8EG75E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIjO2x2Js9g&feature=related

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 19 February 2012 03:52 (thirteen years ago)

"Special Announcement: The Who consider Mick Jagger & Keith Richard have been treated as scapegoats for the drug problem and as a protest against the savage sentences imposed on them at Chichester yesterday. The WHO are issuing today the first of a series of Jagger/Richard songs to keep their work before the public until they are again free to record themselves."

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 19 February 2012 03:54 (thirteen years ago)

no one voting for 'armenia city'? that song is so huge

― Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Saturday, 18 February 2012 18:39 (Yesterday)

it got my vote!

sleeve, Sunday, 19 February 2012 03:55 (thirteen years ago)

And why haven't they put out a remastered version of Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy? A lot of it might be redundant if you own everything else, but it's a perfect comp, and I don't own a remastered version of "Substitute" for fuck's sake (the version on the 30 Years box is the Live at Leeds version).

There's a remastered "Substitute" on the 2004 Then & Now compilation, which also has the better-than-expected 2004 tracks "Real Good Looking Boy" and "Old Red Wine."

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 19 February 2012 03:56 (thirteen years ago)

I was always hoping to stumble across Then & Now in a used bin.

Hideous Lump, Sunday, 19 February 2012 04:42 (thirteen years ago)

which also has the better-than-expected 2004 tracks "Real Good Looking Boy" and "Old Red Wine."

Yes. The 2000s Who is better than people realize. Mike Post Theme from Endless Wire is an alltime classic, the best Who or Who-related song since the early 70s.

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 19 February 2012 04:46 (thirteen years ago)

I've got a cool legit German Polydor disc that has 25 of those stray tracks on it.

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 19 February 2012 04:50 (thirteen years ago)

"Special Announcement: The Who consider Mick Jagger & Keith Richard have been treated as scapegoats for the drug problem and as a protest against the savage sentences imposed on them at Chichester yesterday."

Can't remember where I read it, but Jagger concluded this was nothing more than an attempt to steal their "stronger" material. Those limey rock stars.

I voted for I Can't Reach You, a song that has a lot of personal meaning for me. Love this whole thing (and the bonus tracks) to bits, tho

Trip Maker, Sunday, 19 February 2012 05:22 (thirteen years ago)

I've got a cool legit German Polydor disc that has 25 of those stray tracks on it.

If that's Rarities, Vol. 1 & 2, I've got it; I even had the double vinyl back in the early '80s. I listened the hell out of those records, and the two Missing collections from a few years later.

Hideous Lump, Sunday, 19 February 2012 05:55 (thirteen years ago)

Can't remember where I read it, but Jagger concluded this was nothing more than an attempt to steal their "stronger" material. Those limey rock stars.

According to Dave Marsh in Before I Get Old, Jagger's response was, "Peter, you're a gentleman." Perfect.

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 19 February 2012 06:19 (thirteen years ago)

My vote went to "I Can See For Miles." Granted, a predictable choice (I came close to voting for "Heinz Baked Beans" -- none of the Who's peers dared put anything as defiantly comedic on a record). But it perfectly encapsulates one the Who's engagingly myriad contradictions: it was a perfect encapsulation of their live sound, but was rarely played live. And it's as soaring as it is biting. Also, Daltrey never sneered better.

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 19 February 2012 07:35 (thirteen years ago)

If that's Rarities, Vol. 1 & 2, I've got it; I even had the double vinyl back in the early '80s. I listened the hell out of those records, and the two Missing collections from a few years later.

That's it. Found it for $5 at a Half-Price Books a couple years ago. Had never heard of it before, but it's easily one of the best official Who comps ever.

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 19 February 2012 07:41 (thirteen years ago)

Felt lucky and privileged to see them play both Tattoo and I Can See For Miles at the LA stop on the 1982 tour.

Voted I Can't Reach You. Always wanted to record a Spacemen 3-styles take on Armenia

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Sunday, 19 February 2012 08:20 (thirteen years ago)

If we included extras I'd go for Melancholia, possibly my favourite Who song. That leaves an impossible choice. I Can See for Miles is extraordinary sonic bombast, I Can't Reach You pop genius, Sunrise just beautiful. Even the ads have wit, charm and style.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Sunday, 19 February 2012 11:34 (thirteen years ago)

Has to be "Miles". "Tattoo" is my next favourite.

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 February 2012 13:31 (thirteen years ago)

Jagger's response was, "Peter, you're a gentleman." Perfect.
Oh maybe it was keef.

Trip Maker, Sunday, 19 February 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)

A lot of these have been rereleased on the remastered CDs from the '90s, but there's still 7 or 8 that you can only get on some of the old rarities collections, including Entwistle's incredible "When I Was a Boy":

Just listened to this on the new Japanese remaster of Who's Missing. What a tremendous song. If Townshend wasn't so insistent that every Who album be A MAJOR STATEMENT, they could've put out a killer 1972 record with the Lifehouse leftovers and b-sides like this.

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 23 February 2012 04:56 (thirteen years ago)

really tempted to vote for 'i can see for miles' because it's the only who anthem that never sounds even a little bit tired or overplayed to me even after a hundred listens, whereas i'd be completely happy to hop into that alternate universe posited upthread where the who turn into the non-twee kinks and 'baba o'riley' and 'won't get fooled again' and 'who are you' never get to exist. but i'll probably vote for 'mary anne' because it has the best title of any who song.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 06:02 (thirteen years ago)

xpost there is an album called "The Ox", it contains all the Entwistle songs up to that point.

Mark G, Thursday, 23 February 2012 06:56 (thirteen years ago)

whereas i'd be completely happy to hop into that alternate universe posited upthread where the who turn into the non-twee kinks and 'baba o'riley' and 'won't get fooled again' and 'who are you' never get to exist.

^i dont wanna live in this alternate universe

You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Thursday, 23 February 2012 14:34 (thirteen years ago)

Going through the "Quadrophenia" deluxe edition notes, it seemed there was an idea to have the 'story' songs alongside some 'pop music' stuff, but they couldn't work out how to knit them together without them appearing disjointed.

Mark G, Thursday, 23 February 2012 14:37 (thirteen years ago)

This is one of those v minor nuisances one should never even voice, but it's bothered me since the day I bought the CD that the spine says
THE WH0 SELL OUT
with a zero in their name like it's a copy of Mechanical Animals.

dream words & nightmare paragraphs from a red factory in a dead town (Abbbottt), Thursday, 23 February 2012 15:14 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah, I noticed that.

Mark G, Thursday, 23 February 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

I Can't Reach You. It always stuns me - I just stop and listen intently whenever I hear it. So, so lovely. But I admit I could have easily voted for I Can See For Miles or Armenia City In The Sky.

Foster The Hoople (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Friday, 24 February 2012 01:38 (thirteen years ago)

I must confess, I haven't listened to this album for quite some time, but looking at the tracklisting now I could pick out a few tracks that would definitely go on a personal Who best-of. I did go for 'Odorono', but it could have been several tracks. I do prefer the version of 'Tattoo' on Live At Leeds though.

Turrican, Friday, 24 February 2012 01:42 (thirteen years ago)

four months pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

armenia

da croupier, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:11 (thirteen years ago)

tattoo

Iago Galdston, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:32 (thirteen years ago)

I Can't Reach You

fatmamakick, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:38 (thirteen years ago)

armenia

some dude, Friday, 6 July 2012 00:40 (thirteen years ago)

tatto

gospodin simmel, Friday, 6 July 2012 07:23 (thirteen years ago)

fuck, tattoo

gospodin simmel, Friday, 6 July 2012 07:24 (thirteen years ago)

And yet, there's one song that'll probably win by miles..

Mark G, Friday, 6 July 2012 08:27 (thirteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 7 July 2012 00:01 (thirteen years ago)

Actually somewhat shocked that "Sunrise" didn't get any votes.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 7 July 2012 00:03 (thirteen years ago)

must have been a lot of lurkers, huh? don't remember ICSFM getting lots of shout outs in the thread...

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 7 July 2012 00:08 (thirteen years ago)

One of the rare albums I always listen to as an album, never in tracks. The sheer sound of this album, and of Piper at the Gates of Dawn, are the peak of a certain kind of big but crisp psychedelic production aesthetic that I can't describe without lapsing into metaphors from old soft drink commercials.

Vic Perry, Saturday, 7 July 2012 01:27 (thirteen years ago)

don't remember ICSFM getting lots of shout outs in the thread

obvious truths don't need shoutouts

j., Saturday, 7 July 2012 04:23 (thirteen years ago)

alright then!

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 7 July 2012 04:52 (thirteen years ago)

"Relax" is full of good life advice.

chupacabra seeds (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 03:51 (thirteen years ago)

And yet, there's one song that'll probably win by miles..

― Mark G, Friday, 6 July 2012 08:27 (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That'll be five pounds, thanks.

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 09:02 (thirteen years ago)

Heinz Baked Beans 1

nutter...

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 09:03 (thirteen years ago)

Nothing for Sunrise. Wish I'd voted for it now

Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

Yeah that song is really hauntingly beautiful.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:13 (thirteen years ago)

damn no sunrise? i forgot to vote in this, but probably would've voted for that.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)

Someone voted Odorono!

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Truck Bombing Begins at Home (Mount Cleaners), Thursday, 12 July 2012 06:06 (thirteen years ago)

Why shouldn't they, it's great!

SomeTwat from Tring (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 July 2012 10:04 (thirteen years ago)

Yes.

My Elusive Memes (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 12 July 2012 11:09 (thirteen years ago)

four months pass...

Have been hearing "Mary Anne with the Shaky Hand" for 25-30 years and never realized the middle part was supposed to be flamenco.

timellison, Saturday, 8 December 2012 23:32 (twelve years ago)

one year passes...

I've been playing this off YouTube for my art classes the past couple of days. (I know the "Monday-Tuesday" intro will make them laugh and put them into a receptive frame of mind right away.) The album's not new to me or anything--got a copy out of my parents' basement pile 45 years ago. But, like a lot of albums, it basically narrowed down in my mind over the years to my two or three favourite songs ("I Can't Reach You," "I Can See for Miles"). I haven't really listened to it in a long time.

So good. I don't think there's ever been an album I consider perfect, one where I unreservedly love every song. This one comes close--almost as close as Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere. I could do without "Silas Stingy" and "Sunrise," which I notice got no votes here. Completely endorse Christgau's retroactive A+. If there'd been Pazz & Jop in '67, it would have got my vote--wonder how it would have fared against Sgt. Pepper and Are You Experienced.

clemenza, Friday, 14 February 2014 16:22 (eleven years ago)

Agree about Silas Stingy,but Sunrise is gorgeous

Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, 14 February 2014 21:35 (eleven years ago)

yes, perfect album and yes, Sunrise is gorgeous

g simmel, Saturday, 15 February 2014 03:30 (eleven years ago)

It was one of the happy setlist surprises when I saw them in 1982.

WilliamC, Saturday, 15 February 2014 03:32 (eleven years ago)

Ha, I remember being surprised that they did "Tattoo" on that tour.

timellison, Saturday, 15 February 2014 05:03 (eleven years ago)

I just looked up that gig (Birmingham, AL, Nov 82) and apparently they didn't play "Sunrise" -- but I swear I have a clear memory of them doing that song! They did do "Tattoo" though. (Faulty) memory is a funny thing.

WilliamC, Saturday, 15 February 2014 05:12 (eleven years ago)

seven months pass...

I expect I'll regret you
But the skin graft man won't get you

The "5" Astronomer Royales (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 15:20 (ten years ago)

four years pass...

Christ, this album is perfect.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 14 December 2018 00:23 (six years ago)

I voted for 'Odorono' back in the day, but I'd switch it to 'I Can't Reach You' nowadays - just a beautiful song.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 14 December 2018 00:27 (six years ago)

Also 'Silas Stingy' and 'Sunrise' are great - I'd take either over any track on The Who By Numbers that isn't 'Success Story' ...

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 14 December 2018 00:33 (six years ago)

Big fans of "The Who Sell Out" should check out the live at the Fillmore East 1968 collection. The set list at that point was from this LP. 'Relax' is a definite highlight of the set.

earlnash, Friday, 14 December 2018 00:57 (six years ago)

one year passes...

Miles is kind of a weak song really but it’s such a mind blowing track

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 23 November 2020 15:15 (four years ago)

Very surprised to see the love for tattoo here, i always thought that and silas stingy were the obvious duds on this otherwise-perfect album

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 23 November 2020 15:26 (four years ago)

Me and my brother were talking to each other, and we 100% agree on "Silas Stingy" but think "Tattoo" is perfect.

clemenza, Monday, 23 November 2020 15:35 (four years ago)

ha, mostly i just cant get over "i expect i'll regret you but the skin graft man wont get you", an all-time groaner of a rhyme

but tbf if id voted i might have honestly gone odorono so i might be nuts

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 23 November 2020 15:48 (four years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MDbELRzjhU

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 23 November 2020 15:49 (four years ago)

What? "Tattoo" is great and the skin graft line is great too!

Naughty Boys Hoo! (Tom D.), Monday, 23 November 2020 15:54 (four years ago)

lol come on now, wtf is the skin graft man up to ffs? is he sneaking around stealing peoples skin?? also i just hate being made to picture skin grafts when im trying to enjoy rock music

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 23 November 2020 16:00 (four years ago)

Armenia robbed. Love it so much, wish they played it live (or at least on an official release).

Ape Hole Road (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 23 November 2020 16:55 (four years ago)

For someone regarded (at one time, anyway) as one of the Great Rock Lyricists, Townshend uses a lot of dubious rhymes, silly imagery and forced concepts.

I've always liked the grotesquerie of Silas Stingy; it's like a Dickens story animated by Terry Gilliam.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 23 November 2020 17:15 (four years ago)

That's Entwistle, though.

Mark G, Monday, 23 November 2020 17:45 (four years ago)

I know, the first paragraph was responding to the conversation about Tattoo, the second about Silas Stingy.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 23 November 2020 17:55 (four years ago)

I assumed you knew, just clarified for the boys and girls.

Mark G, Monday, 23 November 2020 17:57 (four years ago)

lol come on now, wtf is the skin graft man up to ffs

Talking of clairfication. He's covering up the tattoo obviously, the point being that the narrator is going to wear his tattoo proudly all his life. In which case, I don't see the problem with the lyric.

Naughty Boys Hoo! (Tom D.), Monday, 23 November 2020 18:02 (four years ago)

Not covering up so much as removing and then grafting skin where the tattoo used to be.

Naughty Boys Hoo! (Tom D.), Monday, 23 November 2020 18:04 (four years ago)

yeah i get what hes saying is "i wont go to the skin graft man", but "the skin graft man wont get you" is such an unfortunate phrasing to my ears, that makes it sound like the skin graft man wants to take the tattoo, like the tattoo is in peril due to this man who wants skin. just a weird weird line imo.

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 23 November 2020 18:13 (four years ago)

it’s a bit of a mouthful, is my issue with “the skin graft man won’t get you”, too many consonants in a row

brimstead, Monday, 23 November 2020 21:04 (four years ago)

The Who, like all them Brit Invasion bands, wanted to be amusing as they were a silly pop band. And they were all very good at it until about 1970, when rock became serious art. The lack of concern for posterity is what separates 60s rock from 70s. Sun's not yellow, it's chicken, etc.

Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Monday, 23 November 2020 22:34 (four years ago)

I used to think of "I Can See For Miles" as a pretty good song that I wasn't particularly into, but for some reason one day when there was an early, heavy snowfall and I had to drive all the way across town on summer tires to pick up my winter ones and it was an absolutely terrifying slow crawl through one icy intersection after another, I found myself singing "I Can See For Miles" over and over again as I drove, as a meaningless but reassuring mantra. No idea why that song of all songs popped into my head, but now I feel more affection for it.

Lily Dale, Monday, 23 November 2020 22:51 (four years ago)

The Who, like all them Brit Invasion bands, wanted to be amusing as they were a silly pop band. And they were all very good at it until about 1970, when rock became serious art. The lack of concern for posterity is what separates 60s rock from 70s. Sun's not yellow, it's chicken, etc.


“Squeeze Box,” “My Wife,” “Waspman,” “Bell Boy,” “Now I’m A Farmer,” “Postcard,” and “Success Story” are all 1970 and later. And even the non-silly tunes (“Who Are You,” say) are flecked with humor. Hell, the song “Teenage Wasteland” from the sci-fi opera about music so intense that it makes people disappear has the line, “Hey you! Don’t step on the turnips!” No half-lidded ‘luded-out slothful po-faced heaviness from these guys; that was Floyd’s and Zep’s territory.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 23 November 2020 23:43 (four years ago)

Sheep from Animals and The Crunge from Houses of the Holy are just two of several funny 70s songs by Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 23 November 2020 23:50 (four years ago)

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3hv0cXJBTg

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 26 February 2021 16:44 (four years ago)

Tracklist here https://shop.thewho.com/products/the-who-sell-out-super-deluxe-box-set

Out of the 112 tracks, the only ones I've never heard in any form/didn't know existed are the Sunn Amps spot, "Facts of Life" (an Entwistle tune), and "Inside Outside USA."

Disc 4 is a convenient clearinghouse for their '68 studio recordings, but disc 3 -- studio sessions with chatter and such -- is what I'm really looking forward to.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 26 February 2021 16:53 (four years ago)

one month passes...

New documentary on Sell Out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvXU3y-7gF0

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 23 April 2021 15:20 (four years ago)

"I'm an Ear Sitting in the Sky" <= is that for real?

Josefa, Saturday, 24 April 2021 00:48 (four years ago)

Sorry, Pete, I'm not buying that one. I didn't think this was very good.

Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Saturday, 24 April 2021 10:24 (four years ago)

Awesome little documentary !

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 24 April 2021 12:23 (four years ago)

The footage of Townshend and the band explaining the concept of the album to John Peel and then playing him an acetate (I assume) of "Odorono" wsa definitely something I'd never seen before!

Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Saturday, 24 April 2021 12:57 (four years ago)

"I'm an Ear Sitting in the Sky" <= is that for real?

― Josefa, Friday, April 23, 2021 8:48 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Yep. Pete first mentioned in a 1979 interview that Speedy Keen called him right after Sell Out's release to say, "No, no, it's 'I'm An Ear'!" But in the new documentary, Pete says Keen called Pete "years later."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 April 2021 14:40 (four years ago)

The odd thing about the documentary is that they spend more time on songs that weren't on the record -- "Jaguar," the Coke ads -- than on songs that were, like "I Can't Reach You," which itself goes unmentioned.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 April 2021 14:43 (four years ago)

Maybe serious Who fans knew this already but it was news to me that Speedy Kean is singing co-lead on "Armenia" - for ages I wondered why that particular vocal sounded so weird.

Josefa, Saturday, 24 April 2021 14:54 (four years ago)

I'm mildly tempted to poll 'I Can See for Miles' vs 'Helter Skelter' aka the heaviest songs evah.

pomenitul, Saturday, 24 April 2021 14:55 (four years ago)

Keen isn't singing co-lead; that other vocal track is Daltrey sped up. The engineer in the documentary was wrong.

xp

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 April 2021 14:58 (four years ago)

Really, wow. Wikipedia is wrong on that too.

Josefa, Saturday, 24 April 2021 15:01 (four years ago)

"Anyone Who's Anyone" by Sloan is an interesting pastiche of this song, similarly sung at the top of the singer's range.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 24 April 2021 15:03 (four years ago)

Wikipedia's also wrong about "Jaguar" -- that's Keith singing lead (with Pete taking lead on "the radio's blasting..." etc.).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 April 2021 15:08 (four years ago)

I note that this is the third Classic Albums episode about The Who.

piscesx, Saturday, 24 April 2021 16:04 (four years ago)

And there's also the 2012 Quadrophenia documentary, by far the best of all the Who album documentaries (sadly, no longer on YouTube, and never issued in a physical format).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 April 2021 16:15 (four years ago)

Bradley’s Barn?!

Bewlay Brothers & Sister Rrose (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 24 April 2021 16:44 (four years ago)

Yep. “Our Love Was,” “Relax,” “Someone’s Coming,” and “Mary Anne With The Shaky Hand” were all completed at Bradley’s Barn on August 17, 1967, during a day off from their tour with Herman’s Hermits. These had all been started in London about a month earlier. While on tour in the US, Kit Lambert would book them into studios on days off to try to get the record finished. They also recorded in NYC, where Al Kooper played organ on “Relax” and “Rael”; and at Gold Star in LA where they took advantage of that studio’s echo chamber for the harmony vocals on “I Can See For Miles.”

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 April 2021 19:39 (four years ago)

Damn--went to watch that tonight and it was gone.

clemenza, Wednesday, 28 April 2021 02:15 (four years ago)

If you can't find it drop me a pm ;)

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 28 April 2021 13:58 (four years ago)

Thanks to CJV for getting this to me, enjoyed it. Only quibble is that my favourite song, "I Can't Reach You," doesn't get mentioned (unless I missed it).

I liked Daltrey at the mixing board listening to demos and fragments. His expression is somewhere between bemusement and intrigue. Reminded me of Dylan in the Scorsese documentary, when he says something about not knowing where those '65/66 songs came from: "I can do other things now, but I can't do that."

clemenza, Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:03 (four years ago)

"I Can't Reach You," doesn't get mentioned (unless I missed it).

Nope, no mention of it...but lots of talk about songs that didn't get released until 20+ years later.

My favorite moment in the documentary -- and one of my favorite moments in all Who films, documentaries, etc. -- is Daltrey singing along with "Tattoo."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:09 (four years ago)

Yes, my fave moment as well. And he sounds excellent!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 29 April 2021 15:55 (four years ago)

His voice has held up extraordinarily well. He went through some problems with a pre-cancerous growth on his vocal cords around '06-'09 (his performances from those years are decidedly hit-or-miss), but after surgery he sounded great. I'd argue that he sounds stronger on 2019's WHO than on any record (live or studio) since Who Are You.

A recent reissue of WHO includes a bonus disc of a 2020 acoustic show, and the version of "Tattoo" on it is stunning.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 April 2021 17:35 (four years ago)

Best thing on the CD release is Melancholia,

Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, 30 April 2021 17:33 (four years ago)

Take 1? Demo?

A Stop at Quilloughby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 April 2021 17:42 (four years ago)

dunno, I think the demo is on Scoop

Dr X O'Skeleton, Saturday, 1 May 2021 17:47 (four years ago)

In addition to the master take, there’s an early run-through of “Melancholia” on the box, with Pete doing a guide vocal. And yep, Pete’s solo demo is on Scoop; in that album’s liner notes, he says he doubts the Who ever heard the song, forgetting that they’d recorded it.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 1 May 2021 19:18 (four years ago)

eight months pass...

did someone ever re-upload that documentary to youtube or anywhere else?

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 January 2022 15:46 (three years ago)

Capitaine Jay Vee was nice enough to Dropbox it to me. It was good--I don't think I saved the file, but maybe you can contact him?

clemenza, Thursday, 13 January 2022 16:00 (three years ago)

Christ there’s a right old satisfying *thump* to the mono version of I Can’t Reach You. Hard to hear if it’s actually the bass or the drum or both.

piscesx, Thursday, 13 January 2022 18:50 (three years ago)

three years pass...

philadelphiamusic has sealed copies of the super deluxe edition on clearance. ($34 plus $6.50 in shipping and sales tax)

birdistheword, Sunday, 27 July 2025 20:09 (three weeks ago)


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