who best defines INTELLIGENT BASS?
(honorable mentions to tectonic, apple pips, etc)
― the late great, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:23 (thirteen years ago)
I like Hessle Audio the best because they seem much more interested in drums than bass.
― boxedjoy, Monday, 12 March 2012 10:36 (thirteen years ago)
Hessle Audio by quite a margin in terms of consistency I think, though Hemlock do release some great ones too.
Weird how this stuff sits in the context of other uk music.
― historyyy (prettylikealaindelon), Monday, 12 March 2012 10:55 (thirteen years ago)
I find Hessle stuff a bit too minimal tbh. Yes, lots of drums, not much int he way of basslines, and that's okay but I think I've been more excited by Hyperdub. Not sure how familiar I am with the other two.
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 11:50 (thirteen years ago)
I definitely think Hotflush has gotten better the further it's moved away from "dubstep" towards house and techno. The Back & 4th compilation is highly recommendable.
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 12:08 (thirteen years ago)
Who runs Hemlock? I tend to associate the other three with the artists that run them.
― Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 12:24 (thirteen years ago)
Write-in vote for Punch Drunk btw.
Untold is the guy behind Hemlock
― Number None, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 12:29 (thirteen years ago)
Which is funny because Untold's best track ("Anaconda") was on a Hessle Audio single.
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 12:30 (thirteen years ago)
Ah right, never really listened to that guy's stuff.
― Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 12:39 (thirteen years ago)
you should, untold is the best
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 13:13 (thirteen years ago)
i feel like hotflush hasn't come out with anything very interesting since mount kimbie. i like some sepalcure tracks i guess. hyperdub is still killing it.
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 13:17 (thirteen years ago)
my favourite untold track is by far "cool story bro"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1Ivek0hqfE
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 13:20 (thirteen years ago)
hyperdub may have done both my most and least favourite things out of all these labels
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 13:21 (thirteen years ago)
Hessle & Hyperdub are my favourites out of that lot. Hemlock have some killer stuff but don't release too much and when they do there is a risk of Breton lol. Hotflush can be hit'n'miss but when they hit they're quality. I'd put Punch Drunk & Swamp 81 up there with Hessle & Hyperdub. Keysound have been upping the game a lot over the last few years too. Non Plus+ really hit the spot when they go wierdo house/electro. Planet Mu often nail it, love the LPs and comps recently. No comment on the inteligent bass tag haha.
― jimitheexploder, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 14:04 (thirteen years ago)
I can't disagree with this at all.
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 14:10 (thirteen years ago)
I can't not disagree either
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 14:17 (thirteen years ago)
i'm guessing that lex is talking about cooly g & ikonika vs burial?
and when they do there is a risk of Breton lol
ha i am so far from having any idea what this means
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 14:20 (thirteen years ago)
You prob don't want to know its all a bit indie disco '06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYuxZ2otU8s
― jimitheexploder, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 14:24 (thirteen years ago)
ah i see
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 14:30 (thirteen years ago)
i figure untold is the best producer out of this group by a fair margin so i think i'm going to try to make an argument for hemlock
also don't forget about the SSSSS sublabel
re: breton_ (don't sleep on the underscore) at least we got "RDI (girl unit remix)" out of it
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 14:41 (thirteen years ago)
Hyperdub have done the most things I really like (albums as well as singles) but Hessle Audio seem really consistent. Not familiar with the earlier Hotflush stuff - is that Space & Time comp worth getting?
― Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 14:52 (thirteen years ago)
I like Hemlock enough just not Breton, couldn't really get into the Girl Unit remix either. Hemlock is solid as hell otherwise.
How about Numbers and Night Slugs? When they're on form... fuck. Both have lows mind... L-Vis is so bad its unreal as a producer but it doesn't seem to effect the labels output much apart from when he drops a 12" which isn't often thankfuly. Numbers, I dunno sometimes they're missing something other times they kill it.
― jimitheexploder, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 14:57 (thirteen years ago)
they're not really doing "intelligent bass" though are they?
― Number None, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 14:59 (thirteen years ago)
I don't think any of these people are...
― jimitheexploder, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:02 (thirteen years ago)
well you know what i mean. They're not as "serious" at the others i guess
― Number None, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:02 (thirteen years ago)
which is why they're better
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:04 (thirteen years ago)
I mean the distance from the colourful synth heavy Hyperdub stuff aint far away from loads of Night Slugs releases and the Night Slugs drums aint far off Hessle. So I don't think you can say Night Slugs/Numbers are much diffrent from that pack whatever you wanna label it as.
― jimitheexploder, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:04 (thirteen years ago)
NS and numbers are rarely as DRY as these labels can be
I definitely like Night Slugs better than any of these. Though they've slowed up recently
― Number None, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)
i didn't add night slugs, numbers, butterz, well rounded, ramp, pattern, 3024 etc because they seem more rooted in grime & funky than in dubstep, whereas hemlock, hessle, etc are strongly rooted in proper dubstep and drum and bass (untold was a drum and bass engineer)
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:30 (thirteen years ago)
grime, funky & ukg i should say
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:31 (thirteen years ago)
personally i think the night slugs stuff sounds much, much different from hessle & hemlock. i get your point with hyperdub, i just threw it in there because i liked the H
lex is right, the hessle & hemlock stuff *is* more dry and that's what makes it better than night slugs, etc
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:32 (thirteen years ago)
Dry is absolutely the word to describe Hessle. That Blawan track "Getting Me Down" kills everything else he's ever done because the vocal sample injects a bit of fun into it. I'd vote Night Slugs in a heartbeat over any of these, and yeah they count - I'd mix NS stuff in with Hyperdub etc...
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:44 (thirteen years ago)
ugh I hate fun, even the word you use ("injection") makes it sound nasty
oh here you go, here's yr prescribed "fun", better smile like you love r&b or we'll take yr dissensus account away
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:46 (thirteen years ago)
i hate fun as well, "getting me down" is deadly serious and all the better for it but it's not dry either
if you don't love r&b i don't know wtf went wrong with your life really
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)
like anyone on dissensus knows shit about r&b though
for every NS release that bangs (thinking of the immense bok bok "southside" release) there's some garbage like mosca or velour lurking
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)
velour is one of their best releases!!!!! i could listen to "she wore velour" forever
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)
in fact i think i might put that ep second only behind wut in their catalogue
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:52 (thirteen years ago)
well we've already established we have different tastes so ...
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)
you can only listen to that track forever cause its so deathly boring you wouldn't know the difference
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)
"Dance fans who hate fun". Uh huh, okay.
Also Mosca and Velour are responsible for some of my favourite tracks in recent years (although that recent "boring house" EP Mosca released recently is the epitome of "dry/not fun".
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)
fuck fun, i want something simultaneously steely and thought-provoking, like reinforced to night slugs' talkin' loud
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:01 (thirteen years ago)
more fun to go around for everyone else then I guess...
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:12 (thirteen years ago)
"she wore velour" is like if somebody tried to remake "discopolis" or "stars" (mr fingers) on a playstation
in a bad way
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)
oh hello perfect immortal song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FkVaoe_BSE
pardon my while i poop out some nasty cheap synth diarrhea and an awful "swung" beat all over you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CWNL06R7z0
the synth trombone at 1:35 is particularly ... musical
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:22 (thirteen years ago)
i mean, to be fair, on balance it's not *that* bad but it's just a standard 2010 "future garage" beat + some bloopy synths over a mr fingers sample
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:27 (thirteen years ago)
i like my fun like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDb-9bNRW_Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGoQ5oWaA0M
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:30 (thirteen years ago)
well when you put it that way, i agree
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:32 (thirteen years ago)
also this idea that hessle is more interested in drums than hemlock is not correct
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAWCUb8stgw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gSPK2hYH50&feature=related
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)
if i'm going to listen to something like velour i would much rather go to like dj dom or doc daneeka or hackman or CRST or whatever
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:36 (thirteen years ago)
Hyperdub have released my favorite individual tunes out of these four, but in terms of overall consistency and feeling drawn towards their overall aesthetic then it's Hessle Audio for me by a long way.
― Mr Andy M, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)
The stuff on Hotflush is generally not my cup of tea, I can see that they're good at what they do but it never really grabs me.Hemlock - there's definitely been some tunes on the label that I've enjoyed, but as a label it doesn't stand out for me, I don't check for every release there like I would with Hessle or Hyperdub. Like when I saw the name up top I had to stop and think 'hang on, which tunes actually came out on there?'.
― Mr Andy M, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:16 (thirteen years ago)
IIRC there's a fair bit of overlap between Hessle & Hemlock in terms of artists anyway?
― Mr Andy M, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:18 (thirteen years ago)
"she wore velour" isn't great b/c of the beat, it's the gorgeous gorgeous melody and the structure of the song, that amazing tune coming down from the heavens halfway through. i remember the first time i ever heard it, had no idea what it was - bok bok was djing on some london rooftop as night fell in the summer and it was the most incredibly perfect moment. a few months later when i got that promo i replied back in all caps going OMG IT'S THAT SONG IT'S THAT SONG YOU PLAYED THAT NIGHT OMG
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:41 (thirteen years ago)
so many memories of vibing to it at 8am afterparties that summer~
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:42 (thirteen years ago)
xpost to andy m YES that's why i put them front and center in the T/S action, its the subtle difference between hessle and hemlock i was trying to suss out
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)
^^ In terms of the other labels discussed above:Numbers are another favorite of mine but I do tend to feel they are on a somewhat different vibe to any of the 4 in the OP. Not quite sure I would use 'fun' to pinpoint the difference, the corny-sounding way I'd put it instead is that they're more of Friday night good-times label. Like when they did that video for Different Leksrix with all the clips from the New Dance Show in it that made so much sense to me in terms of the overall vibe of the label and the music that they're putting out.
Night Slugs I go through stages through, which are prob as much to do with me and the variability of what I want from dance music at any given time as they are with any changes in the label's output (though of course there has been a lot of variety between the different releases there).
(Apologies for post splurge, just trying to get myself a bit more involved plus generally unblock my writing a bit).
― Mr Andy M, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)
when i think of numbers i think of jackmaster which is more of a post-everything mixed bag diplo sort of experience
hemlock / hessle / hotflush (and to a less extent hyperdub) are much more rooted in "traditionalist" dubstep labels, hence my ref to tectonic
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:25 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah I feel you on that. Would never use dubstep to describe Numbers, even in a source/primary influence kind of way.
I guess I'm kind of biased on Jackmaster and the other Numbers djs after so many good experiences going along to their nights at the Sub Club over the last 2-3 years. Jack in particular can def do the thing of playing a set full of big anthems from across several hip scene, which I can see being irritating (have found the same approach annoying from other DJs myself). For me what ties his style together and imo lifts him up is the love of classic Detroit & Chicago stuff - not unique him to obv, but it seems to underpin his tune selection even in contemp stuff and in how he mixes (plus of course he's just very skilled with beat-matching and has a great ear for blends/tune combinations).
― Mr Andy M, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)
A load of the labels share artists.
Untold: Hemlock, Hessle, Numbers, Hotflush.Ramadanman: Hessle, Hemlock, Night Slugs.Randomer: Hessle, Hemlock, Numbers.Cosmin TRG: Hemlock, Hessle.Girl Unit: Hemlock, Night Slugs.Pangaea: Hessle, Hemlock, Hotflush.James Blake: Hessle, Hemlock.Martyn: Hessle, Hyperdub.Lil Silva: Night Slugs, Hotflush.Mosca: Night Slugs, Numbers.Bok Bok: Night Slugs, Dress 2 Sweat which is now part of Numbers.
You could prob go furthere I just got bored.
― jimitheexploder, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:44 (thirteen years ago)
i don't actually think that "hot songs from all scenes" thing is annoying at all, i know diplo is sort of a love/hate thing
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:02 (thirteen years ago)
'Hot songs from all scenes' is not a major bugbear of mine but I have def heard some pretty clumsy takes on it.
― Mr Andy M, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)
jackmaster is such an incredible dj - i think what sets him out is also his fondness for playing str8-up populist cheese and mixing that up with "hip" stuff from "hot scenes" like it ain't a thing
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:16 (thirteen years ago)
^ he's one of the best. I really want to hear a...
Jackmaster b2b Ben UFO b2b Oneman b2b Bok Bok b2b Brackles set.
I think something close happened on Sub FM way back but one wasn't there, Brackles maybe.
If Blunted Robots didn't kinda slow to a hault and 502 wasn't so young they'd be worth a shout here too, ace labels.
― jimitheexploder, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:23 (thirteen years ago)
i had free passes to see Oneman and Jackmaster last week but i couldn't go :(
― Number None, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:28 (thirteen years ago)
i contemplated it but went to move d instead
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)
i think what sets him out is also his fondness for playing str8-up populist cheese and mixing that up with "hip" stuff from "hot scenes" like it ain't a thing
Good point this. There was that great mix he did a while back filled with 90s crossover house hits like You Don't Know Me & Synth And Strings, was a nice reminder of how good some of those tunes still sound.Really the only problem I have with his very anthem-orientated sets is that some of those tunes I've just heard too many times already, no matter how good they are. I was slightly disappointed with his Fabric CD for this reason, it's harder to justify shelling out for a mix when you've got and regularly rinse a lot of the tunes on it already. But it's a minor in the big scheme of things, I def rate him highly.
― Mr Andy M, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:40 (thirteen years ago)
no matter how many times i've heard splack pack, UR and thomas bangalter, i've never heard them over one another, so that fabric mix was gold for me
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:28 (thirteen years ago)
i really didn't think the fabric mix showcased what's great about jackmaster, it felt like he was trying to cram way too much stuff in
plus it fucking ended with RADIOHEAD kmft kmft kmft unforgivable
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:38 (thirteen years ago)
you don't like the avant-r&b electro-soul stylings of thom yorke? maybe you could start with some hot chip or jamie lidell or the junior boys and work your way up.
― the late great, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:08 (thirteen years ago)
(clicks on thread, reads most recent comments, backs away slowly)
― Tim F, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:17 (thirteen years ago)
Jackmaster is a fine DJ but the real Numbers sets you want to look out for are from Spencer, in my opinion.
Untold has great sonic textures but I'm not entirely convinced by his grooves - the sound design is there, I just wish it would be used better consistently. Something between Untold's queasy, mutilated sounds and Ramadanman/Joe's take on rhythm would be a high point for any of these labels.
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 23:10 (thirteen years ago)
"spencer" is ridic hott
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 23:28 (thirteen years ago)
i mean jackmaster is pretty fine too but calum is just ridiculous
ben UFO interview up today on little white earbuds where he name-checks the quietus and "gender relations in post-dubstep"
INTELLIGENT BASS
srsly though i was not surprised that he gave dubstep as his inspiration for hessle, nor that he didn't mention ukg or grime but i was (pleasantly) surprised that he mentioned dj bailey from metal heads (the drum funk / amen revival dude) and inperspective records as getting him into dance music!
― the late great, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:32 (thirteen years ago)
i dug that jackmaster mix
wouldn't touch the rest of this stuff with a ten foot pole, basically came in here to pull a l8 gr8 by pointing out that i think these labels are hella overrated :)
annd back to the nina kraviz thread
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:41 (thirteen years ago)
This makes a lot of sense to me. I think my love of the first 6 or so Hessle 12s was based on the fact that they were like a dubstep equivalent of that sound.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:46 (thirteen years ago)
i would touch nina kraviz w/ a ten foot pole if you know what i mean nyuk nyuk
― the late great, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:51 (thirteen years ago)
ben ufo's aunt is mary warnock!
i was just talking on twitter about a potential jungle revival that we sense is imminent. this might be where i have to find some other dance scene to get into
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 07:45 (thirteen years ago)
Lex what have you heard about an actual potential jungle revival?
There have been abortive attempts every couple of years it seems.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 08:02 (thirteen years ago)
"actual potential" - as distinct from "fantasised potential".
― Tim F, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 08:03 (thirteen years ago)
Speaking of overrated.
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 08:04 (thirteen years ago)
very little concrete, it's just one of those things you realise you've been seeing out of the corner of your eye for a while. more people talking about it, the t.williams fact mix devolved into jungle in its last quarter...and it's probably the right "time" for it too. i'll be glad if it turns out to be abortive! this led to people tweeting even more jungle tunes at me in a bid to win me over and they were all kinda bad.
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 08:13 (thirteen years ago)
i've been thinking to myself recently "breaks are back, huh?" (a bit more generally than dnb in partic)
re dnb in partic, total freedom played this (from 2002, years in the wilderness) at the fade to mind party i went to and it got a huge reaction. obv that's connected to its whitney-ness, but it still felt like the exact right moment and this is like my favorite old track i've discovered this year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZnXyXoSMwU
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 09:17 (thirteen years ago)
ben's a great dj and that was a good interview
don't really like jackmaster's style too much
― post, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10:04 (thirteen years ago)
haven't heard anything about a jungle revival but have def heard quite a bit of double 99/r.i.p productions out
― post, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10:06 (thirteen years ago)
^^^^ yeah I'd expect a speed garage revival before anything else.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10:46 (thirteen years ago)
I would love a speed garage revival. Stuff like that Mosca single points to this happening surely?
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10:50 (thirteen years ago)
the low-profile drum'n'bass has been keeping these last few years could well mean there's a gap in the market for a jungle revival. That Mosca Bax EP is full on garage.
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10:59 (thirteen years ago)
xpost yes, and people acting like "Bax" is the second coming. Which I'm not narky about, but it's indicative, I think.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:00 (thirteen years ago)
very little concrete, it's just one of those things you realise you've been seeing out of the corner of your eye for a while. more people talking about it, the t.williams fact mix devolved into jungle in its last quarter...
My suspicion is that 90s jungle has become the UK equivalent of detroit techno - many people will pay lip service to it but it's more one of those "we trace our lineage from this" influences that will perennially seem relevant around the edges, rather than something that will be subject to full-blown revival (and certainly not populist revival).
― Tim F, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:08 (thirteen years ago)
I straight up love Danny Native aka Altered Natives unconditionally. He doesn't really fit into the labels that are the subject of this thread but he seems to roll with some of the same crowd and his stuff seems to fit into a harcore tradition (dare I say.... "continuum"?) that isn't jungle but has some of the same punishing aspect, obsession with samples and cut up drum loops. And it's just ridiculously satisfying to listen to very very loud.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:15 (thirteen years ago)
But to answer the question, Funkystepz are on Hyperdub so....
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:48 (thirteen years ago)
many people will pay lip service to it but it's more one of those "we trace our lineage from this" influences that will perennially seem relevant around the edges, rather than something that will be subject to full-blown revival (and certainly not populist revival).
i agree with this, i think we were talking about it in the dance partisans thread recently
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)
the musical vocabulary of drum and bass is pretty exhausted ... i think it would be hard to do something "new" that still scans as drum and bass.
the last big innovation in drum and bass was what, leaving out every other drum hit while keeping pretty much everything else the same? what's next?
― the late great, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)
More evidence of a speed garage revival:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuGOiohEVcU
― Tim F, Friday, 16 March 2012 20:33 (thirteen years ago)
do plan to continue this thread w/ a release-by-release breakdown and comparison of hessle and hemlock tracks
what i am finding is that hemlock seems more influenced by older d&b and techno while hessle seems more hip to contemporary trends
― the late great, Friday, 16 March 2012 22:07 (thirteen years ago)
^Have always felt Hessle stuff took some influence from German minimal type stuff, Perlon and that kind of thing. I'm far from an expert on that kind of music though so it may be a screwy comparison.
― Mr Andy M, Friday, 16 March 2012 22:21 (thirteen years ago)
I think my love of the first 6 or so Hessle 12s was based on the fact that they were like a dubstep equivalent of that sound.
Tim do you mean here that you've not liked the subsequent Hessle releases or just that you've liked them based on different reasons?Just asking 'cause to me one of Hessle's strengths is that they've never really gone through a phase where I've felt like they've fallen off. Like the latest 12 from Objekt, don't think it's ever going to be one of my personal favorites on the label but it's still solid enough.
― Mr Andy M, Friday, 16 March 2012 22:25 (thirteen years ago)
I meant more that for that period I was kinda excited about what felt at the time like a new development, and pretty much precisely the direction I'd been wanting dubstep to go in - this was before post-dubstep both coalesced into something distinct from its ancestry and turned into the multi-fangled many-tentacled thing it is today.
― Tim F, Friday, 16 March 2012 22:30 (thirteen years ago)
My favourite Hessle release probably would be (surprise surprise) "Wad" (give or take "Blimey") but that's on a different tip obv.
― Tim F, Friday, 16 March 2012 22:31 (thirteen years ago)
objekt's "cactus" is def a new personal favorite for me
― the late great, Friday, 16 March 2012 22:32 (thirteen years ago)
"Wad" is so good
― Number None, Friday, 16 March 2012 22:39 (thirteen years ago)
"Wad" is dope, but my fave = "Fuk Tha 101"
― The Reverend, Saturday, 17 March 2012 00:57 (thirteen years ago)
I think this mix was the highpoint of my love of the early Hessle (and etc.) sound:
http://www.dubstepforum.com/studio-mix-d-r-e-a-m-vol-1-dowee-t42706.html
― Tim F, Saturday, 17 March 2012 04:00 (thirteen years ago)
hek001, untold's "yukon / walk through walls" is a great photek / source direct imitation
― the late great, Saturday, 17 March 2012 04:47 (thirteen years ago)
except with
get this
A TWISTED R&B VOCAL SAMPLE
― the late great, Saturday, 17 March 2012 04:48 (thirteen years ago)
b-side is more hidden agenda i guess
― the late great, Saturday, 17 March 2012 04:51 (thirteen years ago)
with some thievery corporation overtones
― the late great, Saturday, 17 March 2012 04:53 (thirteen years ago)
If we're talking fave releases then my top 5 for Hessle would be something like -TRG - Broken Heart (Martyn remix)Pearson Sound - WadPeverelist - Dance Til The Police ComeJoe - ClaptrapJoe - Rut
― Mr Andy M, Saturday, 17 March 2012 10:37 (thirteen years ago)
OK I get you, yeah it did seem like a really fresh direction when those tunes were first coming through.
― Mr Andy M, Saturday, 17 March 2012 10:38 (thirteen years ago)
So, the Laurel Halo album is to come out on Hyperdub eh?
― Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 11:55 (thirteen years ago)
Hyperdub @HyperdubHDBCD014 Laurel Halo - 'Quarantine' Her debut album, released in May on Hyperdub.
― Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 11:58 (thirteen years ago)
how about that loefah interview in resident advisor?
― mh, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:14 (thirteen years ago)
So that Laurel Halo album is gonna be the best album of the year, right?
― Virtual Bart (EDB), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 17:45 (thirteen years ago)
Is it able to be listened to anywhere?
― mh, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 17:55 (thirteen years ago)
is it? i don't know much about her, but i remember the couple tracks i've heard feeling a little too dense and busy.
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:06 (thirteen years ago)
i liked her ep last year. haven't heard anything from her album tho.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:44 (thirteen years ago)
<3 that loefah interview and especially love his swamp81 tumblr
― the late great, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:48 (thirteen years ago)
Here's hoping!
I still haven't found any tracks off her 'Spring' EP that was supposed to be out a couple of days ago on Liberation Technologies under the name King Felix. Could maybe use a Laurel Halo thread tbh.
― Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:55 (thirteen years ago)
I didn't know there's a swamp81 tumblr! checking that out asap
― mh, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:19 (thirteen years ago)
i've enjoyed some of the boddika stuff i've heard on swamp 81
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:02 (thirteen years ago)
HEK002 a-side is called "discipline"
this immediately made me think of throbbing gristle. it doesn't really sound like throbbing gristle per se, but it does have a throbbing 23 skidoo-ish death-funk grind at the beginning and builds to a couple of screaming climaxes with all the intensity of my favorite postpunk tracks.
its like a mix of post-dubstep and PiL or something
amazing track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DodCDN6m9ZY
― the late great, Friday, 23 March 2012 20:48 (thirteen years ago)
i think it sounds like late sabres of paradise or early two lone swordsmen
― the late great, Saturday, 24 March 2012 02:42 (thirteen years ago)
good pick, and i would agree. i was enjoying it for the chilling beginning and then once it settles into a groove it's really infectious
― mh, Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:17 (thirteen years ago)
Can I just say that Fhloston Paradigm is pretty much the best name ever!
― EDB, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:55 (thirteen years ago)
Am I willing to stomach fabric for another hessle audio night with insane lineup?
― EDB, Friday, 6 April 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)
new Elgato is really good - fav hessle release
― coal, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)
anyone heard Untold's newest on Hemlock? i'm not super familiar with most of this stuff, but i really dig it
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 24 April 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)
So what's been the best stuff on these labels this year? The whole Change In A Dynamic Environment series from Untold is flat-out amazing, anything else around as good as that?
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Saturday, 10 November 2012 13:12 (twelve years ago)
LV album (for FUN)new Sigha album (for getting your face sanded off)
there have been some great Funkystepz things as well but I lose track of their titles tbh
― Joanna Motorhead (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 10 November 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago)
New Pangaea 2xEP is really great. From earlier in the year, the Objekt 12" on Hessle is a monster, and the Bandshell & Elgato 12s are excellent, too, although the latter works best on a really good system - I bought the record but it didn't click until I heard it in a club. Rinse shows are consistently great.
(I'm a Hessle Stan, think they along with like LIES, Livity Sound, Pan and maybe Sex Tags are definite "Buy on sight" labels)
I really love Laurel Halo's album on Hyperdub - probably my favourite LP this year, and the Hyper Williams and Cooly G albums are also good. The Terror Danjah EP is pretty nice, too.
Joe's 12 on Hemlock is great.
Hotflush's releases the last 1-2 years have bored me, though I do like Sigha so I'm kind of looking forward to the album.
― ey, Saturday, 10 November 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago)
thought i would check out the new pangaea 12" after reading the jukebox piece on him in wire but i find viaduct weirdly half breaksy/half hard brainy-ish techno. i loved elgatos zone and pearson sounds clutch but i wished i liked this new post-uk bass techno more than i actually do. i know some people think theres a 'more brixton than berghain' angle to it but im not really seeing it (whether it actually needs to have a uk angle is another matter - why are we so obsessed with this?) unless were talking night slugs maybe. then again the flipside of that would be some of the recent keysound releases, which while i do quite like in principle, sound like theyre trying a bit too hard to sound like a uk/london thing.
― StillAdvance, Friday, 28 June 2013 11:32 (eleven years ago)
It's a shame about the direction Untold's gone in. He used to be one of the best post-dubstep guys but now he's just another techno producer
Scuba used to be good too.
Hyperdub used to be buy on sight but I've not bought anything from them since the last Burial release
Hessle Audio are still very good but Pangaea has fallen off a bit. Last couple of releases from him haven't been up to much. Pearson Sound's last 12" on is own lable was quality
― paolo, Saturday, 29 June 2013 10:06 (eleven years ago)
i gotta admit these labels bore me a bit these days
― the late great, Saturday, 29 June 2013 17:56 (eleven years ago)
http://boomkat.com/downloads/886609-pangaea-fabriclive-73-pangaea
this is surprisingly... normal sounding.
― StillAdvance, Friday, 3 January 2014 12:26 (eleven years ago)
yeah, disappointing
― the late great, Friday, 3 January 2014 16:05 (eleven years ago)
that new hyperdub 10.3 comp where everyone on the label turns in an ambient piece ('a soundtrack to a film never made' etc etc) might have been good, but it just seems so self aware and a bit silly really. the good thing about hyperdub is/was that they sound like they COULD be on a soundtrack (and they actually were on children of men, well kode 9 at least), but actually DOING that seems to ruin the idea. i need to hear it a few more times, and there are some good/interesting pieces on here, but i think most of these producers work better with/should stick to beats. i also wish hyperdub did more EPs than albums.
― StillAdvance, Monday, 8 September 2014 11:34 (ten years ago)
where everyone on the label turns in an ambient piece
Sounds like the old Metalheadz box set comp. Self-awareness as a criticism just feels like trying to stop people breaking out of their pigeonholes tho. Everybody said the same about DnB artists moving off DnB beats. Cobblers then cobblers now :)
― nashwan, Monday, 8 September 2014 14:15 (ten years ago)
not sure anyone on hyperdub (or any of these labels) is in a pigeonhole to be honest. not like its 2006 and its still thought of as a dubstep label...
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 07:48 (ten years ago)
Yeah, just picked up 10.3 and I'm absolutely loving it. Not sure what the criticisms are talking about (ILM is not the only place I've seen opinions about it being too whatever-ish).
― austinato (Austin), Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:46 (nine years ago)
I really liked the hyperdub 10.4 set
― the late great, Thursday, 9 July 2015 21:53 (nine years ago)
Also picked up that one, but have not played it yet.
― austinato (Austin), Thursday, 9 July 2015 21:56 (nine years ago)
heh, i like this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsAhvNSyiyQ
― lil urbane (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 19:54 (nine years ago)
in lieu of a Hyperdub 15 physical release it looks like we're getting a digital release/adult swim collaboration
HyperSwim is a 19 track digital-only compilation which will be streaming in its entirety this Friday, November 22nd, on @adultswim, then will be available on all digital platforms from Saturday November 23rd. pic.twitter.com/Bp5GnXjoAw— Hyperdub (@Hyperdub) November 18, 2019
― mh, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 18:43 (five years ago)
Is VERSION part of this axis? Them, if so.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 18:47 (five years ago)
Whities >>>>
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 18:53 (five years ago)
Hyperdub has released some truly woeful music in the past five years, a roster of utter mediocrity coasting along on residual critical acclaim
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 18:55 (five years ago)
yeah whities.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 18:57 (five years ago)
although I probably only enjoy about 1/3rd of it, I dare say the rest is still good, just not for me.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:00 (five years ago)
loraine james album on hyperdub is beautiful imo
― Wee Bloabby (NickB), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:01 (five years ago)
xxxp harsh but fair
Hessle Audio still killing it though. Best UK dance music label since the glory days of dubstep for me.
― paolo, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 08:50 (five years ago)
Hessle Audio haven't released a single record in 2019.
Whities for the win.
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 17:45 (five years ago)
Overmono's "iii's Front" on Whities was maybe my favourite club record of 2018.
my (maybe) fave of 2019 is also by Overmono. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvpyQQjahL8
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 17:47 (five years ago)
Hyperdub is having a renaissance imo, they're doing what they should be doing signing the younger generation (Loraine James, DJ Haram, Nazar, Proc Fiskal)
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 18:18 (five years ago)
DJ Haram record is VG++
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 18:26 (five years ago)
Killer tune. Sick breaks. What more could you want...
They're not quite at the same level of quality as they used to be in the first ~5 years (you could probably easily argue first ~10 years even), but there's some good stuff as of late. The old guard (Kode9, Burial) aren't too interesting these days as much as I hate to say it, but I do love a lot of the new UK signees especially Haram and Proc as well as the Teklife producers.
― gregorianpants, Thursday, 21 November 2019 08:48 (five years ago)
http://www.adultswim.com/music/hyper-swim/
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 22 November 2019 18:51 (five years ago)
Burial has a synth now.
But for real, lotssss of good tracks on here so far.
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 22 November 2019 19:35 (five years ago)
I agree! It's good to see the old guard still going strong ie Ikonika, Cooly G, Scratcha and of course Burial
― paolo, Thursday, 28 November 2019 17:34 (five years ago)
Ergh :(
― paolo, Thursday, 28 November 2019 17:35 (five years ago)
I really don't get Proc Fiskal, at all. The Loraine James album is actually really good though, thanks to this thread for encouraging me to finally get around to it
― boxedjoy, Thursday, 28 November 2019 18:15 (five years ago)
proc fiskal is a funny name at least
― #FBPIRA (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 28 November 2019 18:17 (five years ago)