MTV Buzz Bin: Volume 1 - The Zen of Buzz Clips: From a Guy Named Buzz

Gin Blossoms or Danzig probably

THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE MOTHERFUCKERS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0E0ynyIUsg&ob=av2n

SUCK IT 'BATTLES'

danzig

DANZIG

White Zombie's best song all the way

The mom of Ivan De Prume (White Zombie) once came to my house to adopt a kitten, back in the 90's. She weirded us out a little too much, and we ended up sending her away, nicely. I've never minded No Rain as much as other people seem to...

The dropoff between vol 1 and vol 2 is fucking shameful

save for zombie and creep these are pretty far from the worst things most of these bands did

still, voting for hey jealousy

zero memory of either the live or googoo dolls tracks on volume 2, everything else i either love or could get some nostalgic half enjoyment out of hearing. whereas this has 'zombie' on it.

I'd say 'Hey, Jealousy'. I was a fan of those early Gin Blossoms singles. Runners up are STP and White Zombie.

Really, though, all this stuff is my admittedly middling-quality Achilles heel. I have a 700+ song '90s Alternative Nation playlist that I utilize anytime I need pleasantly familiar aural wallpaper.

zero memory of either the live or googoo dolls tracks on volume 2

haha that is one of my favorite goo goo dolls songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya1O1AUCFcs

voted White Zombie. takes me back to high school. really like Plush and Hey Jealousy too, but I'm burnt out on the former (still enjoy the latter).

kind of surprised at the White Zombie love despite the fact that I still enjoy the song a lot. In retrospect it's much poppier than it felt at the time. 13-year-old me loved the cover art:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/60/White_Zombie_More_Human_Than_Human.jpg

My top four here would be Hey Jealousy > More Human > No Rain > Cantaloop.

I don't miss the 90s.

ban jer fairall

1. More Human
2. Creep
3. Low

'More Human...' was one of those songs that was a pleasant surprise to revisit 15 years after the fact. Pretty sure I like it more now than I did back then.

Nevertheless, voted Creep just over Hey Jealousy

love the chemical brothers font on the cover

I hate every song on here except More Human & Mother, and I voted Mother because while More Human is great it's a huge dropoff in quality from the bizarro fuck-rock schtick White Zombie'd been working for the two or three years before that. No way of selling anybody on this proposition I know but trust me Whiney if you hadn't been, like, just a kid before White Zombie broke bigger, a dollar says you'd be very much on the front lines of telling people who like the later quasi-industrial White Zombie that they are wrong

oh i forgot which one "Plush" was, i kinda liked that one back in the day too

voting for zombie cause apparently i'm the only one here who doesn't hate it

You might be! I don't hate it, but I think it's easily their worst high-profile single.

voted No Rain which is sweet

it's just like, chill out music for a good day w/ your bros

mutha

tell your children not to walk my way

I just heard Cantaloop yesterday, weirdly

dip flip, trip fantasia

"mother" = perfect riff, over which there is danzig's characteristic lowing, which is totally theatrical i.e. capable of high ridiculousness but also there's this unsettling quality to an unbroken character, and then the song also captures a kind of metal appeal by delivering something distant and dark and nightmarish in a totally visceral way

mother

aw mother

just thinkin' unordered thoughts about "mother" at midnight

best song on that first Danzig album is "Twist of Cain" though

quality comp

oh absolutely yeah

thank you thread, i am now listening to danzig

xpost

What's wrong with Us3?

best song on that first Danzig album is "Twist of Cain" though

― plastic surgery dizbusters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:23 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, but Mother is still gr8 obv.

Tough call, this is kind of right when I was starting to get my own music taste so I have feelings for quite a few of these.

I like to sing "more cumin than cumaaaaannnn" when I use cumin; voted White Xombie.

gin blossoms duh

This looks to be stuff from '93 and '94. To give you an idea of just how much other stuff MTV discarded to pare things down to just these tracks, may I propose a pair of alternate universe Buzz Bin variants...

1993:
4 Non Blondes - "What's Up?"
Beck - "Loser"
Belly - "Feed The Tree"
Bjork - "Human Behavior"
Breeders - "Cannonball"
Digable Planets - "Rebirth Of Slick (Cool Like Dat)"
Dinosaur Jr. - "Start Choppin'"
Frank Black - "Los Angeles"
Juliana Hatfield 3 - "Spin The Bottle"
Lemonheads - "Into Your Arms"
Lenny Kravitz - "Are You Gonna Go My Way?"
Matthew Sweet - "Girlfriend"
Nirvana - "Heart-Shaped Box"
Pearl Jam - "Daughter"
Porno For Pyros - "Pets"
The Proclaimers - "I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)"
Red Hot Chili Peppers - "Soul To Squeeze"
Smashing Pumpkins - "Disarm"
Spin Doctors - "Two Princes"
Tool - "Sober"
U2 - "Numb"
Ween - "Push Th' Little Daisies"

1994:
Alice In Chains - "No Excuses"
Beastie Boys - "Sabotage"
Candlebox - "Far Behind"
Collective Soul - "Shine"
Counting Crows - "Mr. Jones"
Crash Test Dummies - "Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm"
Green Day - "Basket Case"
Hole - "Violet"
Lisa Loeb - "Stay"
Live - "I Alone"
Mazzy Star - "Fade Into You"
Nine Inch Nails - "Closer"
Oasis - "Live Forever"
The Offspring - "Self Esteem"
Pavement - "Cut Your Hair"
REM - "What's The Frequency, Kenneth?"
Sheryl Crow - "All I Wanna Do"
Soundgarden - "Black Hole Sun"
Tori Amos - "God"
Urge Overkill - "Girl, You'll Be A Woman Soon"
Veruca Salt - "Seether"
Weezer - "Buddy Holly"
Whale - "Hobo Humpin' Slobo Babe"

...which will likely make you nostalgic or nauseous. Or, as is so often the case with these things, a combination of both.

those weren't actual buzz bin stuff videos. though, thats just stuff you made up

No Whiney I literally tapped into the alternate universe and brought these through from the other side do you see because that's what I am actually claiming here.

I'm saying a list that has multiplatinum band u2 on it and a whale video that never made it out of Alt Nation rotation wouldnt be in the Buzz Bin even in an alternate universe.

Pearl Jam's "Daughter" didn't even have a video. This is a list of nonsense from your iTunes

Also, I didn't check beforehand, but it appears that most of those artists qualify. And considering that the videos of most of those songs were effing ubiquitous during that time, the objection is overruled. (gavel sound)

best song on that first Danzig album is "Twist of Cain" though

Truth x 1000

Still from this list I go mother, more human and

xpost

I like that this is apparently actually making you angry. Such are the passions stoked when the conversation turns to the Alternative Nation.

Hey man nice shot in #3. But actually I like most of this in at least an inactive way.

Ha wait I just reread the list, I am a liar, I actually hate about half these songs, I think I was just caught up in a nostalgic moment there for a second

im disappointed in you jjj for liking filter

Hey man nice shot is totally acceptable and the remixes on the maxi-single (old man moment) are pretty awes, def the best fake swing industrial outside of course of empire. Also I am watching the twist of Cain video atm and Danzig is wearing martial arts gloves for no discern able reason, which is awesome.

MOTHER

if you want to find hell with me
i can show you what it's like...

also: "hey man", "low", "cantaloop", "zombie", "more human", "creep", even "everything's zen"

Why isn't Dig on there?

re: gloves: i always thought they were just punching gloves

and there is no sense in which "twist of cain" is better than "mother", except boogie, and that is a small sense

more human > mother > low > what would you say > everything zen > hey man nice shot > creep > hey jealousy > cantaloop > no rain > plush > zombie

I think "Zombie" is the clear winner for worst song on this

"what would you say" - once you get past the vocal delivery this isn't half bad.

for DAVE BRAH DAVE, that's one of his three-at-most stomachable songs

White Zombie or Danzig, not keen on anything else here. Worst of the bunch by a country mile: 'Zombie'.

john popper's illest 16 bars too

The realest shit he ever honked

you people

More Human Than Human > Mother > Creep > Hey Jealousy > Low > Everything Zen > Cantaloop > No Rain > Zombie > Plush > What Would You Say? > Hey Man Nice Shot

i'd been meaning for a while to start a white/rob zombie singles thread to talk about how classic "more human" is but i guess i don't need to

Saying this is the fourth best song on this is insane, but I fuck with "WWYS," "Too Much" and "Dont Drink the WAHTAHHH"

"Don't Drink" has a nice Peter Gabriel quality if you believe in nice Peter Gabriel qualities

if bush had just made "everything zen" and then disappeared i'd probably be like yeah bush, they were alright

Otm

I think "Hey Man" is the only song I'd actually switch off if I was driving during some Nineties Rock Block

richard patrick's brother should cover it as "HAAAAAVE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU SEEEEN THIIIIS BOYYYYY"

Danzig is wearing martial arts gloves for no discern able reason, which is awesome.

otm

Was all "hey, why isn't Creep on this list... oh wait."

This was the year that I worked in a record shop, so I got way, way, waaaaaayyyy overexposed to all of these records. Creep was the only one that didn't leave me traumatised by the experience.

But seriously, why aren't Feed The Tree and Cannonball on this album? Either of those tracks would smash Creep. (One of them literally.)

Lol this list

Even though I don't mind many of these songs, they do explain why I spent most of the 90s in raveland

also jjj OTM, only sub "Creep" for "Mother"

Oh I'd have voted "Cannonball" in a heartbeat

there's a buzz bin wiki but it only lists bands that were in the bin, not which videos were buzz clips: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzz_Bin

Hey Jealousy

This thread is giving me incredible nostalgia for that Xmas Issue of Melody Maker that had, like, Kurt Cobain snogging (or at least pretending to) Kim Deal under the mistletoe while Courtney egged them on by slapping stickers on their faces, and on the inside, photos of Thom Yorke and Tanya Donelly duetting on mascara and hair bleach and it was the most 90s thing, and I wanted to live inside it forever, oh youth, where did you go?

::puts on Breeders albums and dances about the kitchen::

lol somebody edited Foster the People into the Buzz Band list, A+ Whiney trolling there

the wiki list is counting vh1's 'you oughta know' bands

some acts are missing from that list, pretty sure "the concept" and "groovy train" were buzz clips

there's no source on that list whatesoever so yeah

my pencil box in 5th grade had "Buzz Clips Rule" written on it, so I think I would know

also this jam ain't represented.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nZRSc81-K0

Why isn't Dig on there?

― fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:48 (8 hours ago)

if bush had just made "everything zen" and then disappeared i'd probably be like yeah bush, they were alright

very OTM

Oh I'd have voted "Cannonball" in a heartbeat

― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:13 PM (1 hour ago)

it always confused me when they put pretty established bands in 'the buzz bin.' like, White Zombie had been platinum for a while before "More Human," Cranberries were multiplatinum before "Zombie"

bush released at least one other good song and it was called "swallowed"

lol no it wasn't

unless there's some other completely song called "Swallowed" that I don't know about

i heard "Swallowed" on the radio last week and it really is a raft of shit even in the context of their catalog

my pencil box in 5th grade had "Buzz Clips Rule" written on it, so I think I would know

That's hilarious and amazing.

regardless of how i feel about "swallowed" (great swampy barely-written un-song) i related to my coworker the very otm "everything zen" statement and he told me he spent st. patrick's day with friends rocking out to bush and jumping up and down, which angered the landlord. "it was the most caucasian thing in which i have taken part, i think"

'Swallowed' is probably like 'My Humps' in that it would probably work much better with the vocals extracted altogether.

it always confused me when they put pretty established bands in 'the buzz bin.' like, White Zombie had been platinum for a while before "More Human," Cranberries were multiplatinum before "Zombie"

http://mooreslore.corante.com/archives/images/Payola.jpg

I have no idea what that image is actually about btw but I love it a whole whole lot

Had White Zombie really been platinum before Astro-Creep?

"my lovely lady lumps" >>>>>>>> everything Bush recorded

La Sexorcisto went double-platinum but I don't know when that was certified

I like the first 5 Bush singles pretty well, although I hated them when they were out.

La Sexorcisto was released in '92, went gold in '93, went platinum in '94, and double platinum in '98 (Astro-Creep dropped in '95)

of course MTV was the major labels' bitch all through the 'alternative nation' era but i mean they didn't NEED to put "Zombie" in the buzz bin to justify playing it around the clock, they were already a huge band, what does 'buzz bin' even mean if it's not about new acts?

I’m starting to remember keeping myself willfully ignorant of White Zombie as a teenager because I understood them to be some kind of half-assed Ministry rip-off.

what does 'buzz bin' even mean if it's not about new acts?

helping the labels expand an existing band's demographic & keeping the most lucrative target market at the forefront of the marketing push imo

I’m starting to remember keeping myself willfully ignorant of White Zombie as a teenager because I understood them to be some kind of half-assed Ministry rip-off.

then you heard Filth Pig and realized no ripoff could possibly be worse, right

of course MTV was the major labels' bitch all through the 'alternative nation' era but i mean they didn't NEED to put "Zombie" in the buzz bin to justify playing it around the clock, they were already a huge band, what does 'buzz bin' even mean if it's not about new acts?

― some dude, Tuesday, March 20, 2012 11:50 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

xpost pitchfork didn't have to get bon iver to curate pitchfork fest paris either

i don't really understand what whiney or aero is saying

They should really have compiled all the Breakthrough Videos.

i mean i get what aero thinks is a truth bomb but is actually trite and totally beside the point of what i was saying (xpost)

They should really have compiled all the Breakthrough Videos.

― lag∞na beach: the real ∞range c∞unty (beachville), Tuesday, March 20, 2012 3:58 PM (1 minute ago)

otm

They'd run the little "clouds" bumper that said Breakthrough Video and you'd be like "Oh, I wonder what groundbreaking video I'm getting?" and after about the 50th time, it was usually just "Black or White" or something.

that was a p amazing video tho

it's possible that including Strong second-album songs from White Zombie and Cranberries helps strenghten the credibility of 'the Buzz Bin'; maybe the process works both ways--MTV gives hot new bands exposure who then lend cred to 'return the favor'*

xp to some dude

There's an awful lot of hair on these bands.

* - I'm p unhappy with how imprecise 'who then lend cred to return the favor' sounds to me, but I really have nothing atm. I get what you mean, ship, and it's probably on some 'give the kids what they want' tip, but it's possible that a bombastic U2-style antiwar anthem was enough of a gamechanger for Dolores & co. to qualify for the 'Buzz Bin'

Zombie was the second single released from the 2nd album iirc...? Or maybe not?

ok wiki says nope

gin blossoms by a country mile, fuckaz

i get what aero was saying

caveats upthread noted, still voting for White Zombie here.

gin blossoms by a country mile, fuckaz

― Poliopolice, Tuesday, March 20, 2012

danzig all the way. sorry radiohead. cracker i have on a 10" single, white zombie track is ok, hated everything else at the time and imagine i still would. Would rather listen to herbie hancock than a sample of his, sorry guys.
Cranberries even worse than filter.

actually i dunno the dave matthews (does anyone outside north america?) but it cannot be worse than Zombie (nothing is)

They should really have compiled all the Breakthrough Videos.

only breakthrough video i remember offhand is "virtual insanity"

xp: I think we need to poll that, Herman.

while More Human is great it's a huge dropoff in quality from the bizarro fuck-rock schtick White Zombie'd been working for the two or three years before that

I'm listening to La Sexorcisto right now and really couldn't disagree with this statement more

if you removed the samples you'd end up with something suspiciously similar to an Infectious Grooves album

("Soul-Crusher" is pretty good though, at least up until the vocals come in and the music gets all boring again)

lol okay the music became unboring after a while

Danzig, White Zombie a close second.

xps
i dont think a poll is needed to decide Zombie is the worst song ever. It just IS

During my freshman year of college, the guys in the dorm room next to mine blasted "Zombie" constantly. It was an inauspicious intro to higher education.

i actually like "zombie". i guess that's the heretic's stance, which makes sense. it's got terrible, cringe-inducing lyrics, but the rush i get off the chorus is so massive that i don't really care. do wish it were about brain-eating instead.

Breakthrough Video of Radiohead's "Just" was how I got into that band. (Also some of the great S Jonze videos--Buddy Holly, I think, Wax's California--were BT Videos)

Also: No Rain/Low >>>> Mother/More Human than Human. But I still voted Hey Jealousy.

I really loved "Zombie" before someone showed me the lyrics

ah here's the G Love story (also more upthread): Defend The Cringe-Worthy: G Love & Da Special Sauce

I can't really understand what she's saying, sounds like it's better to remain ignorant. I find the song tolerable...

Another head hangs lowly,
Child is slowly taken.
And the violence caused such silence,
Who are we mistaken?

But you see, it's not me, it's not my family.
In your head, in your head they are fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are crying...

In your head, in your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie,
Hey, hey, hey. What's in your head,
In your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, dou, dou, dou, dou, dou...

Another mother's breakin',
Heart is taking over.
When the vi'lence causes silence,
We must be mistaken.

It's the same old theme since nineteen-sixteen.
In your head, in your head they're still fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are dying...

In your head, in your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie,
Hey, hey, hey. What's in your head,
In your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, oh, oh,
Oh, oh, oh, oh, hey, oh, ya, ya-a...

During my freshman year of college, the guys in the dorm room next to mine blasted "Zombie" constantly. It was an inauspicious intro to higher education.

also the year John Singleton released HIGHER EDUCATION

it cannot be worse than Zombie (nothing is)

you and I do not often see eye to eye but in this matter we are brothers

welcome to Smashing Pumpkins fandom, here is your Billy Corgan skullcap

i mean i get what aero thinks is a truth bomb but is actually trite and totally beside the point of what i was saying

lol you live for beef! it's not any truthbomb anything it's just how that shit actually worked. you asked! label marketing depts discussed strategies about what audiences they wanted to build and worked cooperatively with MTV (and radio) to expand/define the markets of their acts. I know that you're probably going to read a lot of "...and that's BAD" into that, but it's actually a value-neutral description of how a band like the Cranberries winds up in the buzz bin. label submits video for consideration in Buzz Bin, has a guy specifically working the track for that purpose, Buzz Bin's a proven moneymaker. MTV has meetings, programmers say "dude at Cranberries label has been calling me all week, says this is a priority." video goes in buzz bin, feels like a good fit in an era of occasional feel-good alt-political anthems, what the hell, everybody loves U2, these guys are Irish too, meeting wraps early let's all get fucked up

welcome to Smashing Pumpkins fandom, here is your Billy Corgan skullcap

despite all my rage I'm just a rat

are you sure the "let's all get fucked up" part didn't happen BEFORE the "video goes in the buzz bin" part

lol you live for beef! it's not any truthbomb anything it's just how that shit actually worked. you asked! label marketing depts discussed strategies about what audiences they wanted to build and worked cooperatively with MTV (and radio) to expand/define the markets of their acts. I know that you're probably going to read a lot of "...and that's BAD" into that, but it's actually a value-neutral description of how a band like the Cranberries winds up in the buzz bin. label submits video for consideration in Buzz Bin, has a guy specifically working the track for that purpose, Buzz Bin's a proven moneymaker. MTV has meetings, programmers say "dude at Cranberries label has been calling me all week, says this is a priority." video goes in buzz bin, feels like a good fit in an era of occasional feel-good alt-political anthems, what the hell, everybody loves U2, these guys are Irish too, meeting wraps early let's all get fucked up

― tempestuous alaskan nites! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, March 20, 2012 2:14 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

but i mean...they had lots of ways to spotlight new videos by established artists, back in the 90s boom years MTV would do 'world premieres' for vids by big acts every hour on the hour probably more than once a week. that doesn't answer my question of why the whole 'buzz bin' idea of featuring up-and-comers would be compromised, you're just totally off on your little hobbyhorse right now.

it's not even a "the nominee for Best New Artist is on their second album" thing, it's more like "the nominee for Best New Artist is on their second platinum album"

but i mean...they had lots of ways to spotlight new videos by established artists, back in the 90s boom years MTV would do 'world premieres' for vids by big acts every hour on the hour probably more than once a week. that doesn't answer my question of why the whole 'buzz bin' idea of featuring up-and-comers would be compromised, you're just totally off on your little hobbyhorse right now.

iirc those world premieres were once a month at most & carried throughout the following two weeks - they didn't have bunches & bunches of big premieres, those were giant acts only ("Jamie's Got A Gun" was one of them, hard night here in the camp) weren't they? "The whole 'buzz bin' idea of featuring up-and-comers" is something you accept, when that's not actually the idea, the idea is developing a market & forging an identity (I want to say "corporate identity," but you're incapable of reading that without thinking I am thereby saying something bad about corporations). This isn't a "hobby horse" of any kind; it's just how the business actually works. Your questions kind of answer themselves here ("it's not even a "the nominee for Best New Artist is on their second album" thing, it's more like "the nominee for Best New Artist is on their second platinum album") but don't take it from me, talk to other people who actually know lawyers & execs who worked closely with MTV at the time. Or hold onto "what about the purity of the Buzz Bin" that's cool too

but i mean...they had lots of ways to spotlight new videos by established artists, back in the 90s boom years MTV would do 'world premieres' for vids by big acts every hour on the hour probably more than once a week. that doesn't answer my question of why the whole 'buzz bin' idea of featuring up-and-comers would be compromised, you're just totally off on your little hobbyhorse right now.

no he's not, he's right. he's just talking sense. "buzz bin" has no intrinsic meaning. MTV developed the phrase as a branding device to generate an exciting frisson of value-added *newness*, but once established, they could use it to add that quality to less than totally novel offerings. no surprise, just good business.

no contenderizer buzz bin is a beautiful dream and they ruined it

bring back the dream of buzz bin

and really, can anyone argue that "Zombie" does not fit in sonically with the rest of the CD?

Let's all just agree that nothing MTV labeled as 'alternative' or 'buzzworthy' post-'93 (to be super liberal with the date) was a particularly buzzworthy alternative to anything else they aired.

watch yer buzz bins I'm tellin' ya

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIzSZH6oqeM

"Jamie's Got A Gun"

lol

sure he's talking sense, nothing he's saying is WRONG, he's just deploying it like inside knowledge and not shit that everyone knows, which is really condescending and annoying

the whole use of the word "buzz" is pretty much universally understood to mean this is something new that people are buzzing about, and definitely in that context more "people are buzzing about this new band," not "people are buzzing about this new Janet Jackson video". it's not like i'm mad they spoiled the secret garden that was the buzz bin, just even as a tween i was like 'uh yo why are the Cranberries still in the buzz bin, their last shit went plat'

aero totally otm

xp

"something new" != "something by a new band"

all that Buzz Bin ever meant was "we are hyping this"

the extremely poorly edited wikipedia entry i linked upthread disagrees with you, but that's not the best backup admittedly

No old-skool 120 Minutes viewer who watched the slow encroachment of Alternative Nation could argue that MTV's motives wrt this stuff were anything other than cynical.

sure he's talking sense, nothing he's saying is WRONG, he's just deploying it like inside knowledge and not shit that everyone knows, which is really condescending and annoying

lol no that how you're reading it because of your thirst for beef and the tiresome baggage you bring to the subject! stop giving a shit about the name at the end of the post & just read the post, maybe

"you're only disagreeing with my stone cold truth because of who's saying it" is the #1 most condescending bullshit anyone can say fyi

i disagree w/ tons of people i like and dislike on here all the time, as we all do, without anyone yelling "beef! personal vendetta! beef!"

yeah but it seems to be true here dude! you do a bunch of weirdo reading-into stuff with the posts on this thread, whatever the core's about you do it on any thread where we're both posting about bands from the 90s. I say I hate smashing pumpkins, you have some theory about why that might be - a theory steeped in totally delusional ideas. it's deeply weird tbh

we have found some dude's "in my world of young people"

(actually I just wanted to type that because that phrase always makes me lol, please carry on)

beearf

in my buzz bin of delusional beefs

all i'm saying is that whether by design or not, 95% of all 'buzz clips' were the act's big mainstream breakthrough, which makes the other 5% stick out and seem like they don't belong, not that whether they """"belong"""" in such a dubious enterprise actually matters

i wouldn't even remember who i made fun of for being hilariously angry about smashing pumpkins in 2011/2012 if he didn't keep talking about it tbh

it cannot be worse than Zombie (nothing is)

you and I do not often see eye to eye but in this matter we are brothers

haha you and I have been agreeing on a lot of things recently!
i don't hold grudges, esp for internet stuff, so im not going to avoid otming you when you are. and everything you've said about buzz bin is otm.

however i like smashing pumpkins so you might hold that against me! ;)

all i'm saying is that whether by design or not, 95% of all 'buzz clips' were the act's big mainstream breakthrough

no, that's just how it seemed to you. all these acts were established and playing large rooms by the time their videos aired. here's one example:

In 1993–1994, almost six years after its original release, the song became a hit on radio and earned Buzz Bin rotation on MTV[3] after a music video incorporating live footage was created to promote the band's new EP, Thrall: Demonsweatlive. The concert footage was taken from the band's Halloween 1992 performance at the Irvine Meadows Amphitheater in California, with additional footage shot in the UK.[4] This version of the song was retitled "Mother '93" and included an overdubbed "live" concert audience atop the original track, extra reverb, and a minor modification to the guitar solo.[5]

Feel like all the buzz bin = buzz bands owes something to this:

http://www.oaktreevintage.com/web_photos/effects/DOD_Buzz-Box_FX33_Distortion_Pedal_web.jpg

Confusion understandable.

The real point here is that "Low" is not getting nearly enough respect here, so I'm voting for it, and also "Thunder Kiss '65" >>>>> "More Human Than Human."

(Why is there not yet a Chinese food chain called "More Hunan than Hunan?" WHY?)

there's kind of a big gap between 'playing large rooms' and 'one million people bought their album'

Lol this thread was worth it for leading me to the first graf of the history section on noted buzz band Lit's Wikipedia:

Pre-Lit (1989–1996)
The band was formed in 1989 under the name Razzle. The group released a demo tape in 1990 and an EP entitled New Vibe Revolution in 1993. Razzle dissolved in 1993 and became Stain in 1994, which had a much harder and heavier sound. They released a demo tape in 1995 and eventually signed with Malicious Vinyl in 1995. Due to another band owning the name, they changed their name to Lit in 1996.

this is a band that literally never had a good idea

dod made a grunge pedal too! they still might

xp and one pretty good song

last I checked, the dod buzz box was selling for $300 on ebay.

haha new vibe revolution by razzle

we should poll all cultural artifacts named "-zzle"

did the melvins ever get in the buzz bin?

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Some Dude, in the UK Razzle is a porn mag

king buzzle

Also the late drummer of Hanoi Rocks.

we'll note that for the poll, Algerian Goalkeeper

can we just do a poll of things with gratuitous Zs in them, because than ZUBAZ will win

Also the late drummer of Hanoi Rocks.

Aye
I fucking hate vince neil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SfE592gzSI

interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0idrwhYJZk

i totally get some dude's point - saying "buzz bins were bought by record labels and given to already popular bands" doesn't contradict that the Cranberries already received and could expect plenty of MTV airtime by "Zombie" and most of the groups given buzz bin nods didn't.

that said, i've been accused of selective memory and long-held, judgment-clouding ilx beef by aero before, too, so i can't be trusted.

tbh I prefer waygu beeg

uhhhhh beeF

my typing is horribad today

some dude and aero are both otm in a way

i mean, clearly, that Buzz Bin was 80% "new artists" made to give the thing cred and 20% "alt-leaning already-popular things" so people had some reference point for why they were seeing the Eels on TV.

yeah, that 94 ad you posted has only two real mtv 'breakthrough' vids (weezer and dino jr), a follow-up to a hit (offspring) and a 'wtf they're already huge' way more absurd than the cranberries (beasties). so yeah, by "zombie" the brand had been diluted.

i totally get some dude's point - saying "buzz bins were bought by record labels and given to already popular bands" doesn't contradict that the Cranberries already received and could expect plenty of MTV airtime by "Zombie" and most of the groups given buzz bin nods didn't.

― da croupier, Tuesday, March 20, 2012 3:03 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that said, i've been accused of selective memory and long-held, judgment-clouding ilx beef by aero before, too, so i can't be trusted.

― da croupier, Tuesday, March 20, 2012 3:04 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

<3

i'm not even sure that "feel the pain" was dino's first appearance in the buzz bin. for all i know that video where j snowboards briefly lived in the bin as well

clearly, that Buzz Bin was 80% "new artists"

I'm not even sure this is true of the options being polled

"Zombie" and to a lesser, Beavis-fueled extent "More Human Than Human" are the only songs on the comp I wouldn't pick as the band's buzz bin breakthrough, with respect to "Sex Type Thing".

actually I think I saw Cracker's "Happy Birthday To Me" a couple times after school, though "Low" definitely crossed over harder than that or "Teen Angst"

Cracker, Gin Blossoms, Danzig, the Cranberries - these were not "new" acts in any way

look at you, flaunting your hip by saying you knew the gin blossoms from way back

i was surprised later on to see that "Start Choppin'" had peaked higher on Billboard a year earlier than "Feel The Pain," since the latter seemed like a semi-big hit because of the video while i never really heard the former outside the parent album

Shakey, we're talking about songs bands broke through on MTV with, that you and your hipster buds were jamming to Dusted years before is kind of irrelevant

just fyi I have never listened to the Gin Blossoms

but had you heard of them before "Hey Jealousy"?

The grunge pedal is now made by digitech the parent company of dod and can be yours for 49.95 please do not all rush into the store at once

Uh oh does that count as deploying inside knowledge in a condescending way

will it give me the DGC sound? Because I want the DGC sound.

def heard "Stop Choppin'" more often on college radio than "Feel the Pain"

lol jj

there must be some difference between mtv and college radio, let me think real hard

The grunge pedal is only trumped by the death metal pedal which was specifically designed not to have a knob to turn the amount of distortion down from the "all of it all the time" setting

Whiney hedged his bets by putting "new artists" in quotes, not sure what criteria is being used to designate "new" tbh

I have no memory of when I first became aware of the Gin Blossoms. It's possible it was earlier (Request Video - respeck knuckles) but I don't really remember.

xp

there must be some difference between mtv and college radio, let me think real hard

― ffun. (Whiney G. Weingarten),

how's that going for you

lol oh god i very much remember seeing 'hey jealousy' on mtv late at night and being like 'whoa awesome who was that!!"

Whiney hedged his bets by putting "new artists" in quotes, not sure what criteria is being used to designate "new" tbh

I have no memory of when I first became aware of the Gin Blossoms. It's possible it was earlier (Request Video - respeck knuckles) but I don't really remember.

xp

― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, March 20, 2012 3:56 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Of course I mean, "new to MTV" stop being an Algerian Goalkeeper about this

stop being so defensive, whiney! You know these threads are often an excuse to discuss other related maters.

"new to MTV" = 120 Minutes and Headbanger's Ball don't count...?

you hipster, of course your hipster ghettos don't count

Headbanger's Ball was a hipster ghetto?

how heavy are those goalposts btw

you're out of your element, shakey. that element being mtv has known to kids who didn't get to stay up late on school nights.

as known

lol oh god i very much remember seeing 'hey jealousy' on mtv late at night and being like 'whoa awesome who was that!!"

This reminds me of when I heard and enjoyed "Hey Hey What Can I Say" on that Led Zep tribute album, Encomium and then rushed out to buy the Hootie and the Blowfish album. Um.

Shakey gtfo of this thread

hahahaha deric

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

xp IIRC Weezer was a buzz clip at least 3 times (Sweater, Buddy Holly and El Scorcho)

also in 1994 lots of kids (like me) were dumb and didnt know any dinosaur jr songs until "feel the pain"

whether it was a corporate scheme or not, it exposed people to decent music they wouldnt have heard otherwise.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

There's an odd double bill. If I never hear the Gin Blossoms again it will still be too soon.

Apparently Hey Man Nice Shot is way worse than either Zombie or WWYS

i figured g.bloss would landslide so i switched my vote to danzig at the last second.

thank you.

man...

top half of this poll really is the top half, tho, even if its out of order

Whoa dude did you just say something less-than-disparaging about a Radiohead song?

Hey Man Nice Shot at least has a good Wikipedia entry.

Sport
• Used as the theme song for 2009 National Hockey League (NHL) Playoff broadcast
• Used in Australia's National Rugby League (NRL)
• Used as the theme song for Sky Sports coverage of Rugby League's Super League between 2003 and 2004

Other
• After the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, the song was placed on the list of post-9/11 inappropriate titles distributed by Clear Channel Communications.

My band does a passable cover of HMNS

We've never played it live but if we do, I'm gonna see if I can get my lead singer to introduce it as 'nobody's favorite song'