Acts that are not on Spotify

Because creating a list together may be useful
Bob Dylan got in there recently, but there are still some big (and some slightly lesser) names lacking.

The Beatles
All solo Beatles apart from Ringo
Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
Metallica
AC/DC
Frank Zappa
King Crimson
Slade
Tool
Badfinger (apart from the two lesser known Warner albums)
Flower Kings

More?

was gonna say fuckin' flyin a-heads but whoa there they are

Adding Red Hot Chili Peppers. Their 80s albums are in there, but nothing more recent.

I was sure Caetano Veloso and Jorge Ben were absent but now they're there! Anyway:

War
Popol Vuh
Ash Ra Tempel
Perfume
Joanna Newsom
Boredoms
Curtis Mayfield

Everything on 100% Silk, Planet Mu, RVNG, Numero, Sublime Frequencies, Soul Jazz...

kinks, pre-RCA years, which is pretty lol. at least that's how it was last time i checked.

the entire drag city catalog

I think that part of the Kinks catalog is out-of-print period.

Zoviet France

La Monte Young

The Hafler Trio

H.N.A.S.

and so so many more, I continue to laugh bitterly at the starry eyed dreamers who think "everything" is available as a stream.

kinks pre-RCA is '71-Back, and very much in print via Sanctuary/Universal.

Last U.S. CD releases were 1990 and they're not available as downloads on iTunes or Amazon.

I think Sanctuary is administering the Pye/Reprise Kinks rights in the States now. The first three albums were reissued here in the early 2000s via a partnership with BMG. Now they are hooked up with Universal, but perhaps they feel anyne who cares will pick up their imports, which are fairly well distributed here.

You'd think that Universal would want a group as big as the Kinks on iTunes. I wonder if there are other issues.

Oasis, Example, Wretch 32, most Julia Holter.

Roy Harper, except for his debut album.

adele
peter gabriel
momus (creation label era)

Adele has "19" in there, but only the first two singles from "21".

As for The Kinks, "Something Else" is still lacking, but they seem to have most anything else.

Only three Hootie and the Blowfish songs. (Don't ask.)

Peter Gabriel

sorry piscesx, missed your post!

There's some Popol Vuh on there, though one of the playable albums has TAKEDOWN AS PER LABEL REQUEST in the title.

Coil

Also Cosey Fanni Tutti has been pretty vocal about her dislike of Spotify. C&C and TG are in the process of being taken down altogether, I understand.

As for The Kinks, "Something Else" is still lacking, but they seem to have most anything else.

― Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Saturday, March 31, 2012 10:07 AM (43 minutes ago)

Maybe in Norway!

Black Sabbath's studio albums with John Michael "Ozzy" Osbourne.

they are here in the uk

Red Hot Chili Peppers were added yesterday if you like that kind of thing.

No Rammstein sadly.

I see that the new Peter Gabriel live album is available. Hopefully the rest of his work will follow soon.

Seger

Sugar (and only the Warners Husker stuff.)

None of Def Leppard's popular albums are on there.

i'm not on spotify

only the Warners Husker stuff

No longer true!

That was fast.

Alright, who on this board is from SST?

Sugar's stuff is on there, or at least it was about five days ago. I listened to Copper Blue.

gimme some good news about Seger, guys

It looks like Bureau B, which did a lot of the Sky Krautrock reissues, pulled the rights in the US.

Sandie Shaw. oddly.

King Crimson! Also, more Pink Floyd than a current live album, ffs!

Mainly, there's a Jex Thoth song called "The Banishment" and its melody is almost exactly like the melody line of "Epitaph" but I couldn't cross-compare - at least not in spotify.

A bunch of Peter Gabriel there now

Yellow Magic Orchestra

I just looked and there were only a few odds and sods from Gabriel, certainly no albums.

Kinks seem to be on, plentifully (including Something Else)

King Crimson!

Fripp has determinedly set his face against spotify, the diary on his website has plenty of back-and-forth on this topic.

One album that is on there is "From Good to Great", a tutorial CD by Robt Fripp

No Something Else in US :(

Royal Trux

I just looked and there were only a few odds and sods from Gabriel, certainly no albums

That's weird--I can see all of them (in Australia, anyway)

Boards of Canada
Throbbing Gristle
Severed Heads

all pretty much absent

Only Gabriel that's on Spotify US is that live/orchestra thing from recently.

Greg Kihn.

Royal Trux
No Drag City at all.

Right, no Bob Seger. So I went out and bought the CDs because Spotify makes me want to own everything.

If you aren't buying Seger on LP (and 45, actually) you are missing some of his best stuff!

"Mary Lou Mary Lou she took my diamond ring..."

I had the Seger 45s as a kid. I loved "Against the Wind" and "Still the Same". How they would sound today, I don't know.

Did you have "2+2=?" "Heavy Music" and "East Side Story" though?

No.

More eighties bands. I wanted to hear "Real Life" for example.

yeah still no Gabriel proper in the UK.

Pain in the ass. I just watched that "Classic Albums" thing on So and wanted to listen to it. Ugh, not on spotify. I actually had to go dig around my hard drive for mp3s! Felt like the stone ages.

That's totally how I feel when stuff isn't on there. I've often wondered if the Spotify's of the world will move from a flat fee pricing structure to one based more on usage -- ie, where my wife would pay a lower fee for her account but I pay more because I listen more. That would still work out for me -- I mean, $120/yr. is chump change compared to what I used to pay for records.

Along the same lines, I wonder if higher demand artists will end up basically end up getting a higher royalty per listen than others as these models develop.

I wonder if higher demand artists will end up basically end up getting a higher royalty per listen

I might be wrong but I think that's basically what's happening now. Or at least on a per-record-label basis. Not sure about per-artist.

I think that's the case already, isn't it? That major labels are getting higher payouts? I suppose it's justified in theory by the fact that Spotify gets more plays per labor hour (just with uploading and whatever else they need to do) compared with smaller labels.

xp

But it must still not be more than they get w CD sales -- otherwise, Gabriel/Pink Floyd/etc. would already be doing it, right?

I might be wrong but I think that's basically what's happening now. Or at least on a per-record-label basis. Not sure about per-artist.

the problem is that Spotify won't be able to sustain their business model if they have to start actually paying artists

xp i feel you Johnny; that's exactly what stoked my interest. really great doc that.

There are only 3 Shalamar tracks up:(

Shalamar is the bomb. I am thinking of getting premium soon, but would fork over even more if I could have better selection plus less re-recorded crap.

I upgraded to whatever the ad-free status is a while back and haven't regretted it. Thinking of stepping up to the one that allows mobile device streaming because I just got an iphone. Road trips will no longer involve burning a lot of mp3 cds!

Shakey, they have like almost everything already so I don't get "not going to be able to sustain it."

Loads of Shalamar in the UK...

Frank Zappa

Really wishing he had ANYTHING on there right now.

selecter's 'celebrate the bullet' is not on spotify to my annoyance right now

I was wondering if the Zappa catalog coming out on Universal would mean it would end up on Spotify too.

^^ Exactly what I'm hoping.

Would be nice, but I suspect that the Zappa family will never let that happen

So there's no way to upload music onto spotify's server?

No but you can link it to your hard drive and mix your personal collection with Spotify's...in your own home / office. I think the titles still show up in published playlists, just as "not available".

can you also link songs from your hard drive on the mobile version, on any of the plans (free/premium/superpluspremiumlultrawhatever)?

where's the fun in that if no one else can listen to it?

Well, your online friends can see your home cooked favorites on a playlist, or you can have a party / guests etc. and mix your own music in.

Ergonomically, it IS frustrating, though.

Mad God, if you have songs on your phone you probably could, but I have a Blackberry so I dunno.

can you also link songs from your hard drive on the mobile version, on any of the plans (free/premium/superpluspremiumlultrawhatever)?

Spotify integration means I only use iTunes to add files and burn CDs. It's almost never used as a player any more. Ugh, horrible bloaty thing.

same here

I think the titles still show up in published playlists, just as "not available".

Might depend on the settings of the person who's looking at it. There's a check box for "show unplayable tracks."

To that end, the thing about Spotify that is frustrating is less "artists" that aren't on Spotify, but *tracks*. For instance, I was putting together a monster Can list for a road trip -- and while all their albums were on there, all the long epics from those records ("Yoo Doo Right," "Bel Air," "Chain Reaction," "Cutaway," "Pinch") weren't.

That makes no sense at all. It seems the only thing more complicated than airplane ticket pricing is music licensing.

Lots of jazz records are ruined on Spotify the same way.
But it is weird how selective that is.

yeah I don't get how that happens. Maybe one particular musician who appears on the tracks will not grant rights and that causes individual tracks to be stripped out?

Just realized there's no Cap'n Jazz on spotify... On the bright side all the Polvo albums are up!

yeah I don't get how that happens. Maybe one particular musician who appears on the tracks will not grant rights and that causes individual tracks to be stripped out?

I think it just comes down to lengths, Spotify just doesn't like long tracks for whatever reason. I was listening to some early Allman Brothers and the albums were on there, but the long epic jams weren't.

I don't think that's it.

nah that can't be it!

Being away from my record collection for the past 2 months I've only had Spotify to keep me warm at night. The lack of Coil is killing me.

mid-period (post green, pre buckingham) fleetwood mac

nah that can't be it!

I'm not arguing that it definitely is, but I really am struggling to figure out why 7 tracks out of 8 on the same album work, but the 8th won't. They are share the same songwriting credits, so that theory of a sole holdout doesn't wash either. The only reason I brought up the song lengths thing is because whenever I come across an album missing only one or two tracks, its consistently when the songs in question are more than 10 minutes in length.

The first five or six De La Soul albums are not on there.

wait, so, even if you pay for a subscription the long tracks aren't on there? i figured it was just something for free accounts. mog has all the long tracks.

It can't be song length... the re-issue of Dopesmoker is up there and its a 60+ minute track;

I haven't tested this theory but is it the tracks that are only available on itunes if you buy the full album? Seems like it could be a default setting from some distributors that no-one's changed.

The first five or six De La Soul albums are not on there.

Only "Me, Myself & I"... THANKS SPOTIFY.

I have a vague recollection that the no-long-tracks issue was specific to (or most common with) Universal-related albums?

https://getsatisfaction.com/spotify/topics/long_songs_are_missing

longest track i can think of on a commercial CD from recent(ish) times is Goldie's Mother from Saturnz Return which clocks in at 71 minutes and 53 seconds.
it's present and correct on Spotify uk.

They might be trying to negotiate for higher per-stream payments for long tracks? Would make sense.

Cannot find proper version of Freda Payne's "Band of Gold"

Holland, Dozier, and Holland still own the Invictus catalog. Looks like the last thing to come out were some artist comp CDs in 1996.

What about the Chairmen of the Board comp in the early 2000's?

Yeah, [urlhttp://www.amazon.com/Best-Chairmen-Board-Ten/dp/B0000641A8/ref=sr_1_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1342895778&sr=1-3&keywords=chairmen+of+the+board]this one? Maybe they licensed it out for that EMI "Ten Best Series."

Yeah, this one? Maybe they licensed it out for that EMI "Ten Best Series."

OK. That comp is not on Spotify either, although "Give Me Just A Little More Time" is because it was on some soundtrack.

(Of course nobody said that comp was on Spotify)

Yeah, it's not on iTunes either.

Cannot find me no muslamic ray guns on Spotify.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIPD8qHhtVU

Placebo!

Not that ILM cares, but the Eagles.

Some days you're just in the mood for "These Shoes", I get it.

"Those Shoes". Whatever.

Album that is not on Spotify: Heat Treatment, by Graham Parker. Listening to Stick To Me instead

Art Bears (anything from Chris Cutler's label, really)

Metallica now on Spotify, Lars Ulrich making the announcement with a Napster co-founder at his side

The principle behind that being...?

Annoyingly, only 1 Died Pretty album is on there.

McCartney and Wings = BACK! it happened at the start of December supposedly, only just noticed.

manilla road was there for while, and now... nada.

What's become of Geir? Hasn't posted for months unless I'm mistaken.

McCartney and Wings = BACK! it happened at the start of December supposedly, only just noticed.

What's become of Geir? Hasn't posted for months unless I'm mistaken.

I went and created a music forum on Facebook (in Norwegian) including many of the features I like about this place.
Just don't find the time to post here as often, but I haven't abandoned ILX completely.

Read now that Led Zeppelin will be on Spotify shortly as well. Elton John has largely disappeared, but probably just albums disappearing because of some reissue program, I guess.

Regarding Paul McCartney/Wings, it seems the middle part of his solo career is still absent. Everything from "At The Speed Of Sound" through "Tug Of War" missing. I believe they have yet to be reissued on CD as well though, so I guess just a matter of time.

Besides those, "Red Rose Speedway" is absent as well.

g'day Geir.

The Oasis thing seems strange to me, as obviously their albums are only absent in the US.

On the other hand, Material Issue are unavailable in Europe.

no OM apparently unless i ain't looking hard enough. that kinda sucks.

nope I think I've looked for them too and no dice. "Ea" exists but its very hard to find them as you might imagine.

Southern Lord and Profound Lore Records dont appear to be on Spotify outside of the USA.
OM's latest is on Drag City who are not on Spotify at all.

Richard Thompson

Pretty much everything he's done up to 'Electric' is available in the UK, must be one of those territitorial things. On a less crucial note, no Hootie and the Blowfish.

I'm seeing lots of Richard Thompson stuff and I'm in the US.

weird, now he is suddenly on it, i swear there wasn't even his name on spotify this morning. or maybe i misspelled his name...

Hall & Oates. Weirdly there are over a dozen cheap fake compilations of the stuff they were doing separately in the late 60s, but none of the real deal.

That's odd - I can see loads of thir stuff, including 70s albums. Try searching for "Daryl Hall & John Oates" instead of "Hall & Oates".... weirdly, this made a difference on the iPad app.

Ok looks to me like Dary Hall & John Oates has all those fakey compilations, a couple of their 70s albums, and one best of with the 80s singles - but if you look under just Daryl Hall, all their 80s stuff is there. Stupid Spotify.

Search under just "Daryl Hall" and a lot of their 80s stuff comes up

Poor Oates.

Oddly enough this is not the case in MOG, where everything is properly under Hall & Oates.

Before i deleted my account, they didn't have any Ben & Bruno

xp PROPERLY would put it under Daryl Hall & John Oates. Hall & Oates is informal shorthand.

Hey, Spotify. If I happen to make a playlist which contains artists you don't feature, you're not going to hurt my feelings if you just leave that slot blank.

In fact, I would prefer it. I don't know who this is singing "I'm Losing You" from a John Lennon tribute album, but perhaps there is a reason why I didn't have that version in my playlist.

"What Is Life" and possibly 1 or 2 other George songs were recently removed.

Those same 3 or 4 Lennon songs are still streaming however.

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/996849_607005909312392_1701614936_n.jpg

The first one I'm playing is Momentary Lapse because fuiud it's got some of Gilmour's most awesome solos.

pplains, are you saying the original track was later replaced by a cover version or something?

Here are a dozen albums from 2013 that I'd like to hear but haven't gotten around to, since I listen to pretty much everything via Spotify these days and they're not on there:

Bitchin' Bajas, Bitchitronics (Drag City)
Blondes, Swisher (RVNG)
Boards of Canada, Tomorrow's Harvest (Warp)
Bill Callahan, Dream River (Drag City)
Cassie, RockaByeBaby (Bad Boy)
Chance the Rapper, Acid Rap (mixtape)
El-P/Killer Mike, Run the Jewels (Fool's Gold)
The Field, Cupid's Head (Kompakt)
David Grubbs, The Plain Where the Palace Stood (Drag City)
Marc Ribot's Ceramic Dog, Your Turn (Northern Spy)
Thundercat, Apocalypse (Brainfeeder)

(I guess not *quite* a dozen, but almost.)

RockaByeBaby is showing up for me, I don't know if this is a UK/US thing

Hmmm, yeah, the only 2013 release for Cassie that I'm seeing is the "Summer of Love" single.

Run the Jewels was a free mixtape, probably some sample clearance issues keeps it off Spotty.

not sure if any Drag City stuff is on Spotify

Cassie's is also a mixtape, check Datpiff

ditto Chance- Acid Rap

wonder why The Beatles are dragging their heels?

Oh, I know I *can* get some of this stuff elsewhere. But Spotify has become so convenient for me as a one-stop shop, and there's a million things I'd like to hear that *are* on there, that I end up just not bothering with the stuff that's not.

yea none of the drag city stuff is on spotify. i did find most of smog/bill callahan's stuff on grooveshark, which you don't need to sign up for. it's a clunky site but i appreciated being able to stream the older smog albums.

Spotify is the act of pretend forgetfulness

2 Beatles songs have been on Spotify for a while, "Misery" and "Besame Mucho."

Hm. Never come across anything actually performed by the Beatles. Usually it is just tributes and covers.

But yeah, those two are there. I hear music divine.

I love Drag City, they are good folks who've released tons of great records over the years, but I can't say I understand the way they seem to be dragging their feet with the digital thing. I mean, fine, you don't really believe Spotify is a good way to get your artists paid fair enough, but I kinda can't believe they are still holding out against mp3 downloads with their vinyl.

Spotify's rates are really shitty.

Like, it isnt even worth it. With the vinyl they probably at least break even for most of their acts.

It's better than receiving $0.00 from mp3 pirates.

If Spotify is still at the half penny per stream payment rate, the equivalent of a million selling, ten-track album at ten average plays per album would mean $500,000 in income with zero overhead.

I mean, I realize that's only 50 cents per album, but maybe the rates will go up if Spotify is able to generate more revenue. Or maybe they won't - maybe that's just a new model.

• The Necks

If you're more likely to buy music if you pirate music (which seems to be the case, right?) and its also true that if you listen to Spotify then you're less likely to buy music (is that true? I'm sure I read somewhere it was) then maybe Drag City have made the call that its better for the bottom line to stay away.

i still find pirating music to be kind of a pain in the ass and in most cases not worth it, especially as a music-discovery tool. you have to do a google search, find some blog that still has working links to the mp3s, then go to some ad-ridden torrent or bullshit MEGAUPLOAD site, download your files, etc. so since drag city doesn't have a relatively easy way to discover its music, the less likely i'm going to take time to explore their artists (and then later go buy their albums). easier discovery of music, for me, means more new music i'm going to listen to (obviously), and the more new music i hear, the more i'm going to buy music.

like i'm not going to spend time pirating some minor bonnie prince billy record to see if i should buy it. it just seems tedious. more likely, i'm just not going hear it until there is an easier way to spend enough time with the album to help me decide it i should buy it.

Run the Jewels was a free mixtape, probably some sample clearance issues keeps it off Spottty.

Run The Jewels is also in record shops on CD fwiw

ah, probably a free download for a spell and then released physically?

man i swear i think run the jewels was on there at one point cuz it kept recommending it to me

Just noticed that the Boards of Canada catalog is now on US Spotify

Cool thx.

Blimey they're finally adding Zeppelin - one album per day by the looks of things.

aphrodite's child

more Zep info, article is really mostly abt Spotify though

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/12/business/media/spotify-said-to-secure-exclusive-deal-with-led-zeppelin.html?hp&_r=0

When credible rivals to Spotify start appearing we're going to see labels taking their stuff off en-masse as they start signing exclusive deals.

Do you really think so? Labels didn't ever exclusivey sell their physical products with just one chain, did they? I mean outside of a limited edition or something. Maybe some material will be exclusively with a streaming service for a period of time but not in perpetuity. The labels make more money spreading it all around.

The Necks
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Friday, October 11, 2013 12:09 AM (2 months ago)

tier newest one is up and i highly recommend it-- might be my AOY

Entire Zep catalog on there now

Most of the Peter Gabriel albums are on in the US now, I just noticed.

woah that is excellent news

early sabbath also finally

sweet! I updated my 70s Hard 'n' Heavy playlist from last year's big 70s countdown

yeah it ruined this year's ilm poll for me cuz there's not alot there that isn't gonna get blown away by anything on vol. 4.

Most of the Peter Gabriel albums are on in the US now, I just noticed.

early sabbaths always been available in uk. Wonder why it took so long for usa. Bigger market they actually sell cds in?

Funkadelic's WB records aren't on Spotify but are on MOG for some reason.

elliott smith added.

all the more recent Prince albums but based on sampling 'em doesn't seem like I'm missing out on much

why is Lovesexy just one long track?

that's how prince released it, it's the same way on cd

the copy I got has 'em separated. Which is good since I like five songs and that'd be a pain

Yeah I found a cue sheet online on some prince board and split mine into tracks with it. Only time I've ever done anything like that.

The Necks
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Friday, October 11, 2013 12:09 AM (2 months ago)

tier newest one is up and i highly recommend it-- might be my AOY

― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Thursday, 12 December 2013 6:35 AM (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hmmm ... I'm in Australia, and I can only find one Necks track (on a comp) on Spotify. :-(

The Coil selection is meagre (relative to their output!), but I guess there are legal complexities there.

Also, no Comsat Angels.

Weirdly, there's stuff on Spotify mobile I can get with no trouble, but it ain't there when I'm on the PC

And yeah,the Necks in Aus are unavailable

t rex

gah n/m, there's t rex t. rex, t.rex

Looks like the whole(?) Numero catalogue is up now!

I noticed last night that The Kinks' 60s catalog is now on there.

Yeah that was a nice surprise

Though actually the nice surprise for me wasn't the 60s stuff - most of which I own - but the ability to explore all the post-Lola stuff without spending money

yeah, it just took a lot longer for the earlier stuff to show up

was everything post-lola there until now? i thought there was just a handful of kinks before now - that the 60s classics showed up with more of the 70s & 80s as well. but anyway, yeah, glad the kinks are more explorable in general.

There was a point previously when a lot of the old Kinks releases were on there, then much of it was taken off. Glad they're back.

oh hey did the RVNG catalogue just show up?

nice!!

Owen Ashworth's catalog (Casiotone for the Painfully Alone, Advance Base) has been missing from Spotify for about a year, but this morning I saw he wrote a feature for Tidal promoting his record, so I guess it's on there. Must be an anti-Spotify thing a la Taylor Swift?

Wish Drag City would break and go streaming, at some point the revenue curve has gotta bend as more and more people go streaming only and artists on the label go increasingly off the radar and out of the cultural conversation. I would even pay $5/month for an all-DC streaming service, which is $60 more a year they're getting from me now just bc I don't want to hassle with files.

Missing the Felt catalogue, Comsat Angels, and big chunks of Momus, hope to see 'em show up someday.

"missing big chunks of Momus" is a display name waiting to happen

Whoever nabs DC streaming rights will get my money.

all the felt albums used to be on there...

i really don't see the problem with labels refusing to stream their entire catalog for free...

or virtually free or whatever

Owen Ashworth's catalog (Casiotone for the Painfully Alone, Advance Base) has been missing from Spotify for about a year, but this morning I saw he wrote a feature for Tidal promoting his record, so I guess it's on there. Must be an anti-Spotify thing a la Taylor Swift?

he's been pretty public about his hatred of Spotify et al, tweeted about it etc.

in a truly unnoticed blow for tidal all the flatbush zombies tracks are gone

George Harrison just got added it would seem

yeah my longheld 'it's a shame george harrison isn't on spotify, he's totally someone whose catalog i'd like to check out' stance kinda wilted when i came face to face w/ what george harrison's solo catalog actually consists of

Yellow Magic Orchestra

"Daddy's Gonna Pay for Your Crashed Car"—the only song off Zooropa that was for some reason not available on Spotify—is finally available.

i think pretty much everything by Radiohead will be up there as of tomorrow when the new one goes up. In Rainbows went up this week which had never been up there before iirc.

Just realized that Beatles Anthology is on now. Don't think that was part of their big Beatles roll out.

Pretty much every Les Savy Fav album is up including some weird live albums but not the "Rome (Written Upside Down)" EP.

King Crimson
Slade
Tool

these are the holdouts from the list at the top of the thread. what's it going to take to get some Slade on there?

Most of the Peter Gabriel albums are on in the US now, I just noticed.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, January 22, 2014 5:06 PM (three years ago)

Now you see him, now you don't.

Yeah, now that prince is on Gabriel is one of the folks whose absence i note most

sublime frequencies catalog would be a true blessing o course

Just realized that Beatles Anthology is on now. Don't think that was part of their big Beatles roll out.

Still no YMO, but there's pretty much everything by Ryuichi Sakamoto. Wonder what the issue is.

aluminum tunes by stereolab, not on iTunes either

That might be because it was released on Drag City

hmm maybe, but that's just the US version and would've been licensed from Duophonic/Warp presumably? So that doesn't really explain it, because Refried Ectoplasm & Dots & Loops were released by Drag City as well.

Still no YMO, but there's pretty much everything by Ryuichi Sakamoto. Wonder what the issue is.

Just give me Hamilton Bohannon's "Disco Stomp", dammit.

Went looking for stuff on the DIW label (Japanese jazz imprint with a fuckton of amazing stuff in their catalog) and for some reason only David Murray's albums for them are on US Spotify. None of their Art Ensemble of Chicago records or anything else.

Original studio versions of Isley Brothers hits such as "Who's That Lady?" have gone missing.

Still no Slade, hopefully reissue of 'Slade Alive' may get them on board.

Still so sad about YMO. No Hosono, either.

Pere Ubu's late '80s/early '90s major label albums!

deckchairs overboard is on now :)

Still no old De La Soul ;_;

I doubt there will be. De La can't legally reissue those records due to all the samples.

I doubt there will be. De La can't legally reissue those records due to all the samples.

wonder if thats why they released them all for free via their website a few years back.

i wonder when the last of the uncleared samples on 3 Feet High & Rising will fall out of copyright. what was the most recent bit of music sampled on that anyway?

deckchairs overboard is on now :)

― gr8080, dinsdag 26 september 2017 13:09 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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Owen Pallett's later albums, but not his Final Fantasy stuff.
Troutmask Replica is not on there, but lots of other Captain Beefheart is

wonder if thats why they released them all for free via their website a few years back.

It was, and why they used the publicity from that to crowdfund a new record with no pre-existing samples.

Aalyiah's "One in a Million" and her S/T still not on there.

http://www.complex.com/music/2016/12/aaliyahs-music-isnt-online-and-her-uncle-barry-hankerson-is-the-reason-why

De La can't legally reissue those records due to all the samples.

Started to think the samples issue was a red herring given the availability of countless other sample-heavy hip hop albums from the same era.

Aw yeah, just noticed that what appears to be the original mix of Snooze 4 Love sneaked in recently via a compilation album! Previously they had only had some remixes (e.g. Dixon's), which is fine, but I prefer the original

the Angelica album is not on spotify. liberation's wasted on them

Felix Da Housecat's Kittenz And Thee Glitz and Devin Dazzle And The Neon Fever albums are finally up (listed as 2017 releases but aren't deluxe or different in any way from the originals).

Still no Smog/Bill Callahan other than a handful of tracks.

all the early X albums aren't on streaming

Started to think the samples issue was a red herring given the availability of countless other sample-heavy hip hop albums from the same era.

what was cleared vs. what was not cleared is totally random, number of samples has nothing to do with it

Beatles samples on Paul's Boutique for ex. = cleared

all the early X albums aren't on streaming

All of their albums are on Spotify, at least in Canada

yeah here, More Fun in the New World is the earliest one available on both Spotify & Tidal (assuming this is true for Google Music, Amazon and Apple)

acts

re: Smog
I dont think any Drag City records are on Spotify

http://appleinsider.com/articles/17/08/21/longtime-label-holdout-drag-city-puts-catalog-on-apple-music

Yellow Magic Orchestra are up on the UK site now.

oh shi

tttttt

Up in USA too! Yay!

Fleetwood Mac's pre-Buckingham/Nicks catalog seems to have been added at some point. Which ones are worth checking out?

From the Bob Welch/Danny Kirwan era, I'd definitely recommend Future Games (there's good stuff on Bare Trees as well).

Mystery To Me as well.

THEN PLAY ON

Any remaining holdouts?

Spacemen 3

Peter Gabriel. Still the biggest name holdout?

King Crimson

Most of Drag City still?

King Crimson do at least have some recent live recordings. Slade only have three hits, and there's still next to nothing from Joanna Newsom and Garth Brooks.

Oh, and most Jay-Z is still absent.

Newsom is on Drag City...

I assume that at least part of the reason RTX have jumped to Fat Possum (after a lifetime on DC) is they want their stuff to be available on Spotify etc., and FP is doing “digital reissues” of the old albums.

Most of the releases on Tzadik. As far as I can tell, the only one on there is "Mayim Rabim" by Ayelet Rose Gottlieb and some stuff that's been available through other labels as well (e.g. Pharaoh's Daughter's "Out of the Reeds")
John Zorn in general, though at least that great Sonny Clark Memorial Quartet record is on there.

Diamanda Galas' back catalogue has disappeared somewhat recently -- now there's just the two 2017 records.
Devil Doll's never been available, but I guess they(/he) always made a point of limiting the availability of their records.

On the positive side: there's a ton of Magma on Spotify now. (Seventh Records editions, which I gather are the "proper" ones now, not the Charly releases)

There are various older acts who have received lavish career-spanning CD retrospectives from the like of Ace Records (UK), but who are represented on Spotify only via a few random compilation tracks (Reparata and the Delrons and The Goodees are a few examples).

Keiji Haino is basically absent.

aaliyah

Glad to announce that all my musical work out on Drag City is now available on all platforms, which includes Spotify! https://t.co/hYZJAQx3bW

— Lætitia Sadier (@SadierLae) April 1, 2018

Can't see anything else on Drag City yet.

I'm seeing some Six Organs of Admittance and Ty Segall stuff that wasn't there before.

Appears some stuff is available, but no Smog, Bonnie 'Prince' Billy etc

smog: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2ajVJyxI4sHmTMtTA3ENko?si=kzDgr4UmSdOh3yTFwaV5yQ

silver jews: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4ePunOqQbOYoQwd1298g3Z?si=8rFkVI3yRSSdmPUrD_TCzw

bill callahan: https://open.spotify.com/artist/7gqsi6aBSkRMJoL9psKqMr?si=-1TIruU_R9aXURnzyFfgGg

palace brothers: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6Jg1WSoV27sDj7N2WRFPqo?si=vDwFLnf1RCuhaMNL4_kzlw

gastr del sol: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6Xuaooorz7j46y1UrWxXMd?si=MHxq6h70QNaf_Puips4P6w

Weird, didn't show up for me on the desktop client but did through the web browser.

Poking into a little corner of stuff I'm interested in -- I find almost no Henry Cow (just a Peel Session), no Art Bears, very little Bob Drake, no Hail/Susanne Lewis, etc. A good amount of Fred Frith, but mostly albums from the 2000s. Is it possible that the ReR/Cuneiform scene is not generally represented on Spotify?

Btw - French Frith Kaiser Thompson's "Life, Love, Larf & Loaf" (one of my favorite albums!) is actually on here -- but credited to "By various artists," so hard to find unless you search one of the song titles...

Most of them seem to be on Apple Music.

iProg

Henry Cow would be a nice addition. They're a band I'd like to be more familiar with.

I am perpetually annoyed that I cannot put Wiley & Ms. D - "Heatwave" in my pop funtimes playlist.

Roger Miller's catalogue is very spotty. Mostly comps. Maybe it all got divvied up to different labels at some point?

Peter Gabriel albums arriving next week. https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/05/peter-gabriel-spotify/

o wau

I haven't been this excited since "Midnight Blue" on Lou Gramm's Ready or Not album, which was forever grayed out, became streamable. I'm not even kidding.

praise geir

if i touch the little microphone and say "fuck off", will the app stop asking me to use voice control?

Bikini Kill (except select tracks on the Punk Singer soundtrack)

Mickey by Toni Basil is not on Spotify for some reason.

it is in the uk.

might have something to do with her lawsuit:

Basil claims that a company called Razor & Tie Direct has been illegally licensing her song and image without her consent for decades, due to numerous rights transfers that she also allegedly did not authorize.

A thread revive reminded me to check, and there's a lot more High Llamas on Spotify now than the last time I looked.

How come Lamb Lies Down is the only Genesis album not on the service?

Hole’s Live Through This is still missing while all the rest is available. Annoying.

Almost like an empty cavity that is surrounded by other ample materials.

xp Weird, Live Through This is on US spotify

PM Dawn

How come Lamb Lies Down is the only Genesis album not on the service?

Yeah this is odd, 'Acts that have one album missing from Spotify even though the rest of their back catalogue is on there' is definitely a thing, some others I've noticed:

Van Morrison - Tupelo Honey
Saves the Day - Stay What You Are
Modest Mouse - The Moon and Antarctica

Just noticed My Life in the Bush of Ghosts is finally on there. Hooray!

bet it's not the proper version

Live Through This is also on Euro spotify

bet it's not the proper version

noticed, based on p4k's recent sunday review, that Clube De Esquina isn't available in full on Spotify. side 4 is chopped off, most prominently

Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is, oddly, on Tidal for some reason

Lamb Lies down on Broadway is on Canadian spotify

Noticed that some different Throwing Muses albums have been added and others may be removed.

Lamb Lies Down is on UK Spotify, too.

It's on US Spotify now too. Maybe they're following our thread.

Anita Baker

Chairmen of the Board

Anita Baker is on Dutch Spotify - nothing post-Rhythm Of Love though

Five Anita Baker albums and a Best Of on UK Spotify. Also loads and loads of Chairmen Of The Board.

Must be a US-only omission?

I see her listed as an artist with only one song from 2012 listed.

But there are at least two dozen playlists listed that include her better-known stuff, even though they don't appear in her profile. It's weird.

The only version of Give Me Just a Little More Time available in the US seems to be a re-recording, iirc. I was so bummed out when I couldn't find the original single!

Here's Giving You the Best that I've Got

Nomeansno. Just the Biafra record, a compilation and the In The Fishtank session.
I've played that compilation album way too much this year, since I don't have a CD player anymore.

Chairmen of the Board

None of the Invictus catalogue is on Spotify except for one Laura Lee album. No Freda Payne, Honey Cone, etc.

The Zwan album doesn't seem to be on there, at least in U.S. (just an unrelated act called "Zwan," with two 2017 releases)

Zwan CD went out of print fast and it's never been available in digital retailers iirc. Corgan is attempting to write it out of history.

Interesting (and too bad, it's a good one...)

"Voodoo Ray" doesn't seem to be on Spotify or Google music.

(in the U.S.)

David Keenan's Wheeler 18

Voodoo Ray is only on a couple of compilations available on UK Spotify but this sort of thing changes all the time and none of Gerald's albums before Essence appear.

Pantha Du Prince - This Bliss

The S.O.S. Band. Their two last albums without Mary Davis are there, and “Take Your Time (Do It Right)” is available as part of a soundtrack album, but there’s nothing from their Jam & Lewis heyday.

However, on Spotify’s own playlist for them, all the big songs are there, but they’re greyed out for me. What’s the deal with that? Are they accessible in some countries but not in others? (I’m in the Netherlands myself). And if so, why? I want to listen to their “beatbox ballads” (as they’re apparently called)!

SOS Band and also Imagination have gone through some fairly recent withdrawal of much of their material that was there before. Extremely annoying.

Iirc that Pantha Du Prince album got deleted due to an uncleared sample in Saturn Strobe

Bright Phoebus by Lal & Mike Waterson was on Spotify but removed a few moths ago

Imagination is there for me, and has always been afaik.

xps to nashwan

my heart jumped when I read that re: Imagination but yup they're still there for me too

I noticed a while back that some of Alexander O'Neal's stuff had gone from UK SPotify (Hearsay is back but the s/t album isn't), his stuff is owned by the same label as S.O.S. band (Tabu).

Kind of a weird one here, but the original recording of Joe Walsh's "All Night Long" from the Urban Cowboy soundtrack isn't on Spotify (or, iirc, iTunes). Live versions with the Eagles and on his own from 2016 are up tho.

It's hard finding a few of those Urban Cowboy songs.

weird, i thought i posted in this thread a couple of days ago.

i can't find a single album by the incredibly prolific jazz saxophonist steve lacy, who put out albums on dozens of record labels. there is a steve lacy in spotify but it's not the same guy, and none of the "real" steve lacy's albums are misfiled under him. i find this bizarre!

I've def listened to his monk album on Spotify before, maybe a temporary/regional rights thing

https://open.spotify.com/artist/1BEsuwAkTQMG50TeHB5qny?si=jv9tufMlSR-qF7thQ3PmTw

there it is! i dunno - now when i search for him i see a list of alternative artists with that name and he's right there. i must have overlooked it somehow. really weird though, i thought i had scoured those search results.

thanks!

I noticed yesterday there's a lot more Laurie Anderson on US Spotify than there has been in the past, but I dunno how long it's been there.

It bums me out when young producers have or use the same name as jazz musicians, and then eclipse them in terms of profile (Steve Lacy, Bob Moses, Richard Davis, etc).

(young Steve Lacy is cool though)

It bums me out when young producers have or use the same name as jazz musicians, and then eclipse them in terms of profile (Steve Lacy, Bob Moses, Richard Davis, etc).

Funny; I was looking up Irish blues-rock guitarist Rory Gallagher the other day and now there's some house/techno artist with that name who's put out about a half dozen singles and EPs with super generic cover art.

Belinda Carlisle has only four regular LPs up: Her two most recent (the Yoga one and the French one); Runaway Horses; and Heaven On Earth. You can probably shrug off the '90s albums, but it's weird that her solo debut--which was a pretty big record--is MIA on the service.

why, is everything else IRS released on Spotify?

The Go-Gos' albums are! (not the reunion one tho)

that is weird then, as you’d guesspect her first solo was on the same contract

maybe she thinks it sucks & asked for it to go OOP?

Sad that so much Homestead and other indie I listened to in the 80s isn't on there (Happy Flowers, Breaking Circus). A few years back, I lost most of my LPs and cassettes through flood and mold and don't feel like replacing everything.

I heard the Homestead guy trashed a bunch of the master tapes(?) Like when Sebadoh III was reissued, they had to use a 2nd-generation source for the master (which is f’in tragic — for that of all albums). I wonder if that has anything to do w/it.

Why is The Predator missing "We Had to Tear this Motherfucker Up"?

xp One of my favorite ‘80s “indie” bands, Das Damen, is represented by the three SST releases in the middle of their catalog; but their debut is absent (it was on Ecstatic Peace, but I think SST reissued it), as is their great final LP (on Twin/Tone) and the 1991 Sub Pop EP that closed out their career.

None of Death of Samantha’s albums (all on Homestead) appear. Only a 2013 LP of re-recordings

Thankfully, Dinosaur Jr.’s debut (a Homestead release) is there.

Can’t find Skunk (just other bands called Skunk). Is Twin/Tone not represented at all?

No Live Skull (a Homestead/Caroline band). Looks like anyone wanting to get into this slice of the ‘80s rock scene needs to pick up the copious cheap vinyl, like I did 20 yrs. ago!

The Pere Ubu discography on Spotify is very, well, “spotty” (for a fairly major band with lots of albums

Yeah, Live Skull! I used to like them! A big chunk of my youth is missing. :( Kind of sad, makes it harder for the younger folks to check out these bands.

that is weird then, as you’d guesspect her first solo was on the same contract

maybe she thinks it sucks & asked for it to go OOP?

Yeh, I dunno? I actually went looking and found loads of other well-known IRS stuff on the site (Concrete Blonde, Wall of Voodoo, REM, Fine Young Cannibals etc.). And theoretically there shouldn't be a rights issue, as the album was produced under IRS's distro deal w/MCA, who Carlisle moved over to for Heaven On Earth. You can get "Mad About You" and some of the other singles from the album via the two (almost identical btw) Belinda hits comps available on the site.

I don't know about the others, but Concrete Blonde has released all their albums again themselves. I don't know if the rights reverted from IRS and Capitol or not (and does IRS even still functionally exist?). Maybe the Belinda debut is hung up in some limbo somewhere because no one knows where the money goes.

(almost identical btw) Belinda hits comps

this is an idiotic thing to still happen on streaming services

The s/t Live Skull and expanded Cloud One were definitely on Spotify at one point..

does IRS even still functionally exist?

Nope. They initially folded in the mid-'90s under EMI's stewardship, who then revived the label in the early '10s, first as an outlet for Blogger-Indie stuff, and then as a Alt-Country (!) concern that also went quickly under. AFAICT, everything IRS is under the Universal Music umbrella now, due to them owning A&M (who controlled the '85-back catalogue) and EMI ('86-up). FWIW, I noticed on the AMG--not the best source, yes--they credit Belinda as being on EMI International. So you're probably right about nobody know where the money goes within the company.

In other news, I noticed the first two Dramarama LPs (which Rhino reissued w/extras in the '90s) aren't up.

Just saw that "The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore" by the Walker Bros. is blocked on US Spotify.

Victoria Williams has a few albums out there, but her best, Swing The Statue, isn't.

Paul McCartney's "Spies Like Us" is not on Spotify.

I suppose it's been mentioned already but Dre's The Chronic is still not available.

apple billionaire iirc

yeah but 2001 is on Spotify !
And Murder was the Case is not available while the rest of Snoop's output is...

presumably sample rights issues then? I've been wanting easy streaming access to Murder was the Case for years now...

if you don't mind not paying: whole album, playlist

yeah, i may need to pay for youtube eventually as listening to ads is against my religion... dunno if that's monetized?

anyways, been too long; this sounds great

listening to ads is against my religion

youtube ads are maddening if you're using the app, but if you haven't been using browser adblockers since 2003, catch up!

Good player to get around all the missing stuff, as it pulls from youtube and other sources - mac/pc/linux desktop only though - https://github.com/nukeop/nuclear/releases/tag/v0.4.4

don't know if this is the right thread for this, but at least some of those "deleted" myspace songs (many of which were not on spotify, or really anywhere else) were lying around and are now on archive.org:

https://archive.org/details/myspace_dragon_hoard_2010

(unfortunately, the songs I'm specifically looking for I'm about 0 for 20 on, but there is undoubtedly a lot here)

Yeah The Chronic and Murder are on youtube but it's not very convenient (and the sound quality is not great, I suppose).
That's soooo annoying...

Regarding Aaliyah, that's weird because I'm pretty sure all her albums were available on Spotify for a while...

I've been checking since around 2013 and have only seen one

I'm eternally bummed that there is nothing from Invictus / Hot Wax on Spotify, mp3 or other streaming services (besides YouTube), but that's been an eternal problem. You have to get them via expensive imports in US. Maybe some day....

xpost
Well, Aaliyah was definitely available because... I had it in my Spotify library !

(I mean the album, of course)

David C Lowery
‏@davidclowery
15h15 hours ago

12/x If you have China travel plans. Don't go listening to any of the Tibetan Freedom Concert performances on Spotify.... Oh wait those performances aren't available on Spotify. Odd.

how on earth is it "odd" that recordings were specifically copyrighted for a 1997 charity release are not available in a form that will not return revenue? especially when the charity's website has been hacked or squatted for human growth hormone and testosterone booster SEO, suggesting it no longer exists?

Despite carrying loads of U2, the Million-Dollar Hotel soundtrack is not on the service.

King Crimson studio albums coming to Spotify in June iirc.

Shelter by Lone Justice has been on Spotify for as long as I can remember, but it's not there today. ;_;

xpost
Well, Aaliyah was definitely available because... I had it in my Spotify library !

― AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, April 4, 2019 11:27 AM (six days ago)

when was this ? i've been on spotify since 2012 and i don't ever recall seeing it there to the point where i have added the mp3s to previous phones so i had it available

I don't think any of Aaliyah's albums have been in the digital realm besides Age Ain't... because of who holds the rights.

Well, I guess around the time I started using it (2013)...
Actually, I still have the album "Aaliyah" in my library (or at least, some kind of "shadow" of the album : its cover, title and many of the track although some appear "not available") !

aaliyah records came and swiftly went from spotify a few times in some countries but iirc it was a case of someone claiming they had the rights then it being proved that they didn't

Downtown Science

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6avHw4F4js

I heard the De La Soul albums are coming soon

Ceramic Hobs (just one song in a comp)
The Ghostwriters (Charles Cohen & Jeff Cain)

A few Split Enz albums are missing (including True Colours).

Can’t find “There’s Some Whores In This House”!

Went looking for ‘Eurovision’ by Telex and there’s not much by them available.

Virginia Astley is almost entirely absent from Spotify. For shame.

that’s a p gross and entitled thing to say. she doesn’t owe anybody free access to her work.

I didn't mean shame on her, just that it's a shame Gardens... isn't on there. Anyway, it's the whole premise of this thread isn't it?

comsat angels are absent from u.s. spotify aside from two weird comps

John Zorn in general

yep! discovered this when i was in the mood for naked city recently. painkiller *is* on spotify though (i guess bc their records were on earache)

oh and i see i should've searched for the comsat angels itt too

I didn't mean shame on her, just that it's a shame Gardens... isn't on there. Anyway, it's the whole premise of this thread isn't it?

Astley presumably controls 90% of her catalogue though

then again this appears to be there in the US?

Being called gross and entitled is my favourite way to start a Saturday.

Yeah sic, that was pretty Afro, lol

*aggro! (LOL)

FP my phone for racism

Jim Carroll Band: "People Who Died" is on some various artists comps, and that is it.

Somehow, 2pac’s « California love » (single version) which was available until a few weeks ago has now disappeared.

About 30% of albums nominated for the current ambient poll are not on Spotify. Records by Fripp & Eno, Zoviet France, Andrew Chalk, Hiroshi Yoshimura, La Monte Young & Marian Zazeela, Organum, Thomas Köner, Klaus Weise and Tetsu Inoue, for example. Not necessarily surprising...

AMM.
They have 4 Keith Rowe recordings, but funnily the profile photo is not him but a reggae singer with the same name.

Slade are finally on it.

First Belinda Carlisle album was added recent-ish.

I'm not a Tool fan but apparently they were one of the "last holdouts": https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/30/20746735/tool-music-spotify-apple-music-digital-streaming

The dams are breaking

lots of classic electronic from pre-2000 is missing from spotify for whatever reason

nearly all music ever made is missing from Spotify for whatever reason

Joanna Newsom is still keeping out. And De La Soul, the latter apparently against their own wish (samples trouble). Jay-Z will largely stay on Tidal as long as Tidal exists (which might not be long). Split Enz are only available in Oz and Telex just disappeared. Captain Beefheart is in there, but nøt his most famøus album.

Those names (perhaps save for Ee La Soul) are a good bit more marginal though.

Besides Slade and Tool, King Crimson aøso recently got there. Apparently nøt Fripp aolo though.

Samples not really the reason for the De La Delay (why would it affect p much every track in your catalogue).

Zoviet France

La Monte Young

The Hafler Trio

H.N.A.S.

and so so many more, I continue to laugh bitterly at the starry eyed dreamers who think "everything" is available as a stream.

― Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Friday, March 30, 2012 7:53 PM (seven years ago)

these are all still not-on-Spotify, afaik

Certain Split Enz albums are up in America.

Samples not really the reason for the De La Delay (why would it affect p much every track in your catalogue).

Tommy Boy's streaming deal was 90% to Tommy Boy, 10% to De La. De La objected to this publicly and urged people to listen to the two non-Tommy Boy albums that are on Spotify (no idea why Geir thinks they aren't on it); Tommy Boy appear to have said "fuck it, you can't have anything then."

De La also released their old albums for free

I can also see more recent De La Soul albums there.

nearly all music ever made is missing from Spotify for whatever reason

can't be posted enough

De La also released their old albums for free

not really. they downloaded their own albums from a Russian pirate site and put them in a zip file, once.

I can't think of any seminal act whose work is more criminally unknown/unavailable

Possibly stretching the term 'seminal' here, but Dave Clark's handling of the Dave Clark Five catalogue by keeping it off the market has been astonishingly dumb. Although I see now that a hits album and a few LPs finally went up on Spotify this year.

surprised not to find 70s east mids comedy folk group Roaring Jelly on there in some form but no great loss except unsatisfied nostalgia

put them in a zip file, once

like, they didn't even notice there were no ID3 tags

xxxpost well yeah but I doubt Tommy Boy was happy about that

I doubt Tommy Boy gaf

Laurie Anderson's Big Science was unavailable for a long time but last month I noticed it's up.

huggybear

Hugo Largo

a lot of groups missing albums-- only the first two Budgie records are there

also missing:

Van Morrison- Tupelo Honey
almost all Lucio Battisti
Gil Scott-Heron- Winter in America
almost all Henry Cow

Dr Phibes & The House of Wax Equations

this is what I'm missing :
Angry Samoans
Poison Idea
Spaceman 3

Nina Nastasia & Jim White - You Follow Me has disappeared sadly. It was there a few weeks back.

sometimes it's worth checking Deezer, that service has some things the others don't

Gil Scott-Heron & Brian Jackson's Bridges album is missing, so the good version of We Almost Lost Detroit is not available. :(

wtf, Brian Jackson plays TONTO on that album!?

oops, apparently Scott-Heron and Jackson's involvement with TONTO is well known: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_(Gil_Scott-Heron_and_Brian_Jackson_album)

Aside from the expanded Modern Sounds In Country And Western Music, none of Ray Charles' ABC recordings are up.

Basehead. The fuck

Looking up Gang of Four, the only album from early days that's up in toto is Hard. All of the classic tracks on "This Is Gang of Four" playlist are sourced from various artists comps/playlists.

Is this a regional thing? I've got Entertainment!, Solid Gold and Songs of the Free as well as Hard.

Possibly? I'm in the US and just double checked on my desktop with the same result: Hard; Mall; Content; What Happens Next; Live...In The Moment; and Happy Now are the only albums listed alongside the sole comp, which appears to be archive live album released a couple years ago.

They used to be available in the US, but got yanked probably around a year ago.

Not sure why Hard remains, as I'd assume it falls under the same deal with WB in the US.

Hard is copywrited directly to the band on the version that's up rn.

Air Miami’s Me. Me. Me. and Fuck You, Tiger — both co-releases with 4AD — aren’t on Spotify or the other streaming services, though the band’s other (Teenbeat) stuff is.

Those Teenbeat/4AD releases must be restricted somehow; even though Unrest’s 4AD stuff is present & accounted for(?)

I noticed the Morphine albums on Geffen showed up a few days ago. Rejoice!

Lil' Louis. From his heyday, only "French Kiss" and a few scattered tracks/remixes are on my (Dutch) Spotify. No From The Mind of Lil' Louis or Journey with the Lonely unfortunately.

Not much from Hamilton Bohannon, sadly.

Only 2 Boredoms releases :(

there are various 4ad things missing, not sure why. Like the first Throwing Muses album.

oh wait, that's missing from apple music, dunno about spotify

The early Gang of Four albums are back up!

...in America!

Only 2 Boredoms releases :(

Yeah - looks like Spotify and YouTube Music both have Wow2 and Super Roots 10, whereas Tidal has Wow2 and Super Ae. (Tidal has the edge here.)

Weirdly, the second Judee Sill album is up but not the first.

hmm. It's up on my Spotify.

Oh ok, must be a regional thing (I'm in Europe).

As I indicated in another thread, the Tabu records stuff that used to be on there a few years ago (I have a bunch of old playlists with that stuff) is no longer on there. Don't know how long this has been the case, as I have a lot of the mp3's, but I miss putting that stuff on my playlists!

https://www.discogs.com/label/4196-Tabu-Records

That’s weird, it seems to be the other way around here on my (Dutch) Spotify.

I posted this upthread a year ago:

The S.O.S. Band. Their two last albums without Mary Davis are there, and “Take Your Time (Do It Right)” is available as part of a soundtrack album, but there’s nothing from their Jam & Lewis heyday.

However, on Spotify’s own playlist for them, all the big songs are there, but they’re greyed out for me. What’s the deal with that? Are they accessible in some countries but not in others? (I’m in the Netherlands myself). And if so, why? I want to listen to their “beatbox ballads” (as they’re apparently called)!

― breastcrawl, zondag 10 februari 2019 12:49 bookmarkflaglink

But I checked earlier today because of your post on the S.O.S. Band thread and all their Tabu albums are back up here. (So are the Alexander O’Neal and Cherelle albums, but I’m not sure they ever disappeared. I played some O’Neal last year)

Yeah, I did some digging on Spotify forums, and some other folks were complaining that the Tabu catalogue is no longer available, at least on Spotify in US. Shame, a lot of that is classic to me, and essential to a lot of the playlists I make. I have a lot of mp3's, but I like to have streaming versions for mixes.

As long tail streaming content comes and goes, I always imagine crafty rights-holders wearing tinted glasses and loud shirts cussing into landline phones as they try to eke more pennies from their properties.

Towa Tei's three 90s albums recently appeared :)

Would like to see Miharu Koshi on there some day.

Complete discography of The Clean, including live albums/EPs, seems to be there now.

The Cramps catalogue is missing Bad Music For Bad People and the Gravest Hits EP (Psychedelic Jungle is just the album, which is odd because Songs The Lord Taught Us retains it's bonus tracks).

Nevermind, Off The Bone (which I hadn't heard of before) is up, and has the EP and all the stray stuff from BMFBP.

Slicing Up Eyeballs published their Top 100 Tracks From 1987 today, 98 of which they have included on a companion playlist. One of the missing cuts is "Kiss & Tell" by Bryan Ferry, which for awhile was only up in a single edit from a hits comp that's still up but with that track blocked.

Is there some issue with his '87-'94 albums (which are all off the service)?

I can get it four times over on UK Spotify: the full length from Bete Noire & Platinum Collection, and an edit from two other Best Ofs. All three 87-94 albums are also available.

nothing personal, but it's absolutely screaming tittybonkers that if any given three albums are not available for a fraction of a cent on one particular internet subscription service, people's reaction in 2020 is ever "is there some issue?" rather than "those aren't there"

just the shaping of expectations, that if anybody thinks of a record for any reason, the unquestioned default assumption is that it should be on that service in every territory in the world, at all times

I think it's fair to ask the question given that: (A) all the Roxy/Ferry stuff is controlled by the same party, who generally reissue the catalogue en bloc; (B) all of those albums bar the three in question are up on the service; (C) one of those missing albums is one of the artist's most popular; and (D) the hit single from said album was (up until recently) available on a comp on the service. It feels like there's more to this than 'those aren't there', particularly as mike t-diva points out that they are available on the UK site.

No Cookie Crew! Not in the US, at least.

also posted this on the proper spotify topic, but aaliyah's second and third albums aren't on there. that's absolutely criminal.

periodic reminder:

https://www.complex.com/music/2016/12/aaliyahs-music-isnt-online-and-her-uncle-barry-hankerson-is-the-reason-why

jesus what a clusterfuck.

once or twice a month I really wanna listen to you made me realize by the my bloody valentines without going to youtube for it and I wish they'd just let me give them their moneys through the spotify

You realise that’s not how spotify works

No I don't realize that

All the original Brinsley Schwarz lps left the US service recent-ish(?). Couple of comps and a bunch of archival live albums still there. The band's "This Is:" playlist is about half blacked-out tracks now.

That article about Aaliyah, Barry Hankerson, and Blackground is fascinating. I didn’t know any of that stuff (except, unfortunately, the R. Kelly details). Also didn’t realize her last two albums are oop and hard to come by... need to check if I still have the third one, unfortunately I don’t think so.

i mean, it's on youtube but. . . man, would a reissue be nice.

I looked earlier and couldn’t even find it there. Link?

jams for days and days. . .

Thx!

DJ quik & kurupt's "blaqkout"

once or twice a month I really wanna listen to you made me realize by the my bloody valentines without going to youtube for it and I wish they'd just let me give them their moneys through the spotify

if only there were some widely available, portable, physical medium that would enable you to listen to this song in high res audio

if only it was the 21st century

I just noticed INXS, Underneath The Colours, and The Swing aren't on US spotify. I think they used to be? And I wonder why it's just those three*.

(*Elegantly Wasted is also missing, but eh.)

I don't think Elegantly Wasted has ever been up, and the title track is blacked out on whatever comp it's on.

BlaQKout is there for me.

Wonder why the Another View version of “Ride Into The Sun” is greyed out.

Jim Carroll Band: "People Who Died" is on some various artists comps, and that is it.

― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, May 28, 2019 12:16 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Not sure when this happened, but the Catholic Boy album is up and copyrighted to Fat Possum (instead of original label Atlantic).

Fat Possum put it out on vinyl last year.

All the original Brinsley Schwarz lps left the US service recent-ish(?). Couple of comps and a bunch of archival live albums still there. The band's "This Is:" playlist is about half blacked-out tracks now.

I got Nervous On The Road as an "Album Pick" today, but only five of the ten songs are playable and the album isn't listed in the discography.

Ada Rook has discovered the cheat code to being "on Spotify" while trying to convince ppl not to use it: a little blurb tacked onto every track directing them to Bandcamp

i like that idea. bandcamp charges nothing to store as much as you want. i wish that more lofi and "home musician" types would switch to bandcamp. but then if that happened, they'd probably start charging, so nvm.

Samantha Gilles - Let Me Feel It is one of my favorite songs from the 80s and I’ve been waiting over 5 years for it to show up on spotify.

It's on YouTube Music!

None of Curve's Anxious Records albums

Seems like a lot of Ray Charles stuff is missing. Only 24 albums there, many of them comps. Ray had like 60 studio and live albums.

someone probly said this heat

i dont reckon bean church is on spotify too :((

Just noticed ZZ Top's Deguello has been taken down.

I wish the Swedish twee-ish band Granada were on north american spotify

Ain't Love Grand by X has been taken down.

And on a related tip, I don't think The Blasters Slash recordings have ever been up aside from the 20 tracks on the old Blasters Collection from '90.

Nothing Painted Blue's early stuff is missing

Global Communication: 76:14 is there, Remotion and Pentamerous Metamorphosis ain't.

Those missing Bryan Ferry albums are up/back up!

Alex Jones is back on!

SOS Band and also Imagination have gone through some fairly recent withdrawal of much of their material that was there before. Extremely annoying.

― nashwan, zondag 10 februari 2019 13:30

Imagination is there for me, and has always been afaik.

― breastcrawl, zondag 10 februari 2019 14:37

my heart jumped when I read that re: Imagination but yup they're still there for me too

― ⅋ (crüt), zondag 10 februari 2019 14:53

Imagination's Body Talk album has now disappeared from my (Dutch) Spotify. It was there until very recently :-(

I just noticed INXS, Underneath The Colours, and The Swing aren't on US spotify. I think they used to be? And I wonder why it's just those three

Listen Like Thieves has also been removed.

I frequently rue the dearth of Rudimentary Peni on Spotify.

The first Moby Grape album is mostly greyed-out for whatever reason.

joanna newsom - absent on spotify, i'm not crying about it, but typical when you want to play someone a song...

yeah I think she was one of the few artists exempted when the Drag City catalog finally became available on Spotify

The Steve Albini thread led me to look up the album he did with Page and Plant, and it turns out none of their albums as Page and Plant are on spotify

Frustrating that the first Savath & Savalas album isn't on there. His other stuff is

Remove KLF from thread

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— 📻 Colin Paterson 📺 (@ColinGPaterson) January 1, 2021

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— 📻 Colin Paterson 📺 (@ColinGPaterson) January 1, 2021🕸]🐦

I see a comp up called Solid State Logik

yeah, that’s the one

Eddy Grant is on Spotify but "Electric Avenue" is not -- why?

Is the rest of the 2008 Deluxe Edition of the album available in your territory, just not that song?

https://open.spotify.com/album/31PZoM7xs7wuWL9wLZ6KTw

^that entire album is greyed out for me (here in the US)

four songs from this comp are greyed out, including "Electric Avenue"

searching for the track just brings up the same track name used by other artists (I assume some are covers?)

(also can't find the Grant track on YouTube Music or Tidal, fwiw)

gonna go out on a wild limb of speculation and imagine that Spotify used to have the album but its license has expired or been withdrawn

three minutes ago, the radio was playing Dynamite by BTS. Now it is playing an advertisement for car insurance -- why?

All four greyed-out songs were originally released on Grant's own ICE label, and the CD version of that comp credits both ICE and what appears to be a compilation-only licensing company of Grant's, so maybe he specifically withdrew the license from Mercury.

It's on UK Spotify but only on a Best of Jamaica comp and spelled as Electric Avennue

that’s not the real Eddy Grant tho

Several Grace Jones albums on Spotify, but not Slave to the Rhythm, frustrating.

Ah i did wonder, what with the spelling xp

yeah, you got my hopes up there for a sec!

I don't think The Blasters Slash recordings have ever been up aside from the 20 tracks on the old Blasters Collection from '90

I wonder if there is some issue with Spotify and Slash Records, as the first Knitters album and the Germs' GI/MIA aren't up (the only Germs' stuff up are dodgy-looking posthumous releases and a few studio cuts on V/A comps).

why would there have to be an issue?

Slash has worked with a few different other labels for production and/distribution, with some stuff ending up on the shelf with different licencees than they started out with (X owning their first two albums, early Violent Femmes stuff now with Concord Music Group).

Fear's The Record, most recent reissue on Slash in 2018, P and C to Slash on Spotify

The Blasters, on Slash in 1981 but m/d by WB with Warner cat#s from 1982, last reissue in 2010 on an indie reissue label but m/d by Rhino with (P) to Warner. P and C to Slash on Spotify but "marketed by Rhino"?!

Slash has a distro deal with Rhino. The Blasters albums on the label were collected with unreleased tracks in a two-disc collection from Rhino, and iirc individual album reissues were briefly available from Wounded Bird.

I could see the Germs' stuff (which Rhino once handled) possibly reverting to the band and/or their handlers. Rhino eventually handled the first two X albums but never reissued the Knitters album (the CD was from Slash/London), so maybe that went back to the band too.

What I'm saying is there's a lot of Slash stuff on the service that's administered by parties friendly with Spotify (Rhino, Warner Bros.), but since the case isn't as clear on those titles I named, perhaps there was something to it.

In related news, I see X's Ain't Love Grand is back up and credited to the band's own label, so they got the rights back on that one.

yeah but Fear seems to be owned totally by Slash - the 2018 LP reissue even has the 1981 cat # on it.

the "?!" = what sort of marketing spend and manhours is AT&T putting into advertising that this old Blasters album is available on Spotify

Rhino send a press release announcing they're moving all their digital releases to be HBO Max exclusives, 15 minutes before AT&T firing everyone who works for Rhino

SYNERGY

FWIW, the Spotify version of that Blasters album is half greyed out for some unknown reason.

Wendy Carlos

MBV; entirely removed. Is that a new thing?

Yeah, I noticed that also, everything My Bloody Valentine has once again disappeared from Spotify. I think Kevin Shields is the one to blame in this case.

https://www.savingcountrymusic.com/dwight-yoakam-guitars-cadillacs-tracks-removed-amid-lawsuit/

Dwight Yoakam has a section 203 case against Warner (re: getting copyrights back after 35 years), which makes me think X and their people are reacquiring/have reacquired that Knitters album, as they've very active using section 230 to get their albums back, and it now meets the criteria.

"they've been very active"

MBV have been off UK Spotify for quite a while. Loveless and Isn't Anything both still on US Spotify.

Euro Spotify only shows two remix tracks, all other My Bloody Valentine is gone.

I think Kevin Shields is the one to blame in this case.

there is no blame

Not MBV just in general but I've never quite understood how some studio albums have a number of tracks greyed out whilst others on the album aren't. Are tracks licensed individually then?

Like it makes sense that it happens on compilations albums by various artists but always puzzled me why it sometimes happens on studio albums by one artist

Probably different publishing agreements for songs with different writers?

Spotify can link up the same recording across multiple albums, so sometimes when you see a mix of available and grayed-out tracks on an album, it's because THAT album isn't available in your region at all, but the non-grayed songs also appear on some other album (or compilation) that IS available, so Spotify is still allowed to play them.

(But yes, song-by-song licensing issues do happen, too.)

looks like no acts are on Spotify at the moment, at least for me. trying to listen to the ILM top 77 tracks playlist and it will only play like 10 seconds of a track then it just stops.

so i wanted to hear the david axelrod remix of unkle's "rabbit in your headlights" and not only is it not on spotify, i can't find it available anywhere to hear online. the single is cheap on discogs, but what the hell?

so i wanted to hear the david axelrod remix of unkle's "rabbit in your headlights" and not only is it not on spotify,

well, until now, i had no idea such a thing existed (its not obvious from discogs listings ..).
i have the underdog version, but still.
thanks for ruining my evening.

but what the hell?

the majority of recorded music is not available to hear online

MBV's Tremolo and Glider also on US Spotify (along w/Isn't Anything and Loveless)

well, until now, i had no idea such a thing existed (its not obvious from discogs listings ..).
i have the underdog version, but still.
thanks for ruining my evening.

― mark e, Wednesday, February 17, 2021 12:25 PM

sorry. if it makes you feel any better, the remix is not that drastically different from what i remember. axelrod just added some string arrangements. it's worth hearing at least a time or two if you like the original. i just hadn't heard it in years and thought, "hey what about that!?" only to find that yeah: what about that? guess i won't know for now.

Perfect from Now On & Keep It like a Secret is up! (in Sweden anyway)

Here's the Axelrod remix - https://www.fromsmash.com/T80I-LPdIc-bt

hero.

blimey - that's rather wonderful, thank you mares, very much appreciated.

wow, just seen that most of Henry Cow has appeared on Spotify since the last time I was looking for it. Definitely only had like 3 or 4 tracks up when i was using Spotify to fuel my radio show like 3 years ago. A Peel session and I think a track each from a couple of compilations.
NOw all the Studio stuff and Concerts at least.

Been thinking about Gorky's Zygotic Mynci recently and how it's a shame their earlier albums like Bwyd Time are pretty hard to find these days. Their last album Sleep/Holiday (which isn't that great, admittedly) isn't on Spotify either

lots of K-pop artists have disappeared:

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-56237626

the one I can never figure out - and this isn't limited to spotify - but why is Genesis's The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway not on some streaming services when all their other albums are. and it's not like this is some era that's not on, the albums on either side of it are available.

it's available on qobuz which is based in europe so i don't know if that makes a difference.

lots of K-pop artists have disappeared

well yeah, nothing new there

yeah, what's this thread even for?

No Ash Ra Tempel except a live album from 2000

Tag Team's label collapsed in the late '90s, so their entire catalog is unavailable on Spotify except for their one hit. I can imagine why but I wouldn't mind learning more about the reasons for that decision.

— Todd in the Shadows (@ShadowTodd) March 8, 2021

was surprised to see this during the all-star game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDAg3VkZPg8

https://www.savingcountrymusic.com/loretta-lynns-jack-white-produced-van-lear-rose-pulled/

Van Lear Rose album pulled from streaming.

^the fact it's OOP (Amazon Mktplce has 1 new copy offered for $902) and not available for download seems more notable than disappearing from streaming

There's a used copy at every Half-Price Books in the country, no reason to get FulePhished on Amazon.

And there's a ton on eBay for <$6 before shipping.

Guess I was misled about its value when I glanced @ Amazon

It is interesting that it has been scrubbed from a digital markets on top of being physically OOP.

I remember Lynn's son/road manager complaining in her American Masters ep that--despite it being her biggest-selling album--they didn't make alot of money off it, although it ultimately got her more and better live bookings.

The fucking DENTISTS. Seriously, Spotify? Yes, a few records are on there. But far from all.

Ulla's album from last year is now greyed out on UK Spotify :(

you can buy it for less than the price of a month's Spotify!

putting your releases on Spotify for a few months here and there might be a more practical use of the service than having everything up regularly

yeah I was gonna say it finally got reissued, see boomkat https://boomkat.com/products/tumbling-towards-a-wall

“finally” lol, well I was really waiting for it anyway

still no catalogue anita baker on us spotify.

the first pj harvey album has disappeared

Christ the soundtrack for Natural Born Killers is a right mess; literally half of it (Patti Smith, Cohen, Jane’s, Cowboy Junkies... ) is missing. Some kind of weird rights issue with the tracks that have dialogue over them perhaps.

The first Verve album has disappeared from streaming services this year.

How is it possible that Ray Charles' Hit the Road Jack is not available on US Spotify?? You'd think it would be the kind of song that's available on a dozen compilations.

a lot of Ray Charles is missing

I always run into the artist whose entire discography is available on Spotify, expect for the album I'm looking for. Marshall Crenshaw's debut for instance.

a lot of Ray Charles is missing

Ah yeah, I should have done a Ctrl-F on the thread before posting. I'm curious whether it's something in common with other ABC label artists or something specific to Ray Charles. I like to imagine there are some high-level negotiations going on, with the estate playing hardball, but the truth is no doubt more mundane.

I also have very little understanding of the rules of when things fall out of copyright. Is it related to when the artist died, or just the date of the recording?

All of Daniel Lopatin's Oneohtrix Point Never stuff is up, but not his Chuck Person ECCOjams.

Is it related to when the artist died, or just the date of the recording?

It's complicated and depends on many factors, including when the work was published, who owns the copyright (individual or corporate entity), etc.

I'm curious whether it's something in common with other ABC label artists or something specific to Ray Charles

It's specific to Ray Charles. When he signed with ABC, his deal gave him-among other things-ownership of his masters. What he was still alive, his people worked out a deal with Rhino for reissue campaign that stalled out after a wave or two of titles (a similar thing happened around the same time with Rhino and Curtis Mayfield & the Curtom catalogue). The Ray Charles Foundation is now working with Concord Records, but all they've put up on Spotify from that era is a single of "Georgia On My Mind" and a Modern Sounds In Country & Western twofer.

That's great detail - thank you.