pick only ten. favorite BOC songs. go ahead. you can do it.
i'd have to think about it. they have several albums that i enjoy listening to from start to finish and i don't think i've ever thought about what my FAVORITE songs to hear are. they had tons of cool tunes.
someone just brought in almost every BOC album today to my store. so i'm listening to them all. "Transmaniacon MC" would probably be on my list. but its hard cuz i like pretty much every song on this album (s/t) a bunch. maybe i could pick two songs from the first 5 albums.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXqLZRwp1II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6VwMPqlIrs
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2012 17:53 (thirteen years ago)
someone just brought in almost every BOC album today to my store.
very awesome. i still need to get the latter half of their discography.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:03 (thirteen years ago)
I'd have to think about this pretty hard
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:05 (thirteen years ago)
"Screaming perditious hell fire and brimstone guitar slashing feedback stentority rooted in the sixth dimension afterworld of heavy metal, of which Blue Oyster Cult now hold the champion's belt." - Arthur Levy, Zoo World
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:06 (thirteen years ago)
"Call it killer, call it heavy, but it is the best non-pretty American group in a long while, in the same (urban) league with The Doors and the Velvet Underground." - Lester Bangs, Creem
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:08 (thirteen years ago)
oh WAIT THAT WASN'T LESTER! SORRY. that was Jon Tiven, Yale Daily News
metoo, give me a couple few hours...
― BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:08 (thirteen years ago)
this is lester:
"Tyranny And Mutation will blow you over like no record in recent memory. ...They have all the equipment necessary to become the best band in America." - Lester Bangs, Creem
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:10 (thirteen years ago)
"The Blue Oyster Cult centers on Buck Dharma. He may very well be the best hard-rock guitarist in America." - Robert Christgau, Newsday
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:11 (thirteen years ago)
"If any group has the potential to match the recorded work of Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath - and much more importantly to possibly transcend the whole heavy metal field - Blue Oyster Cult should be it." - Mike Saunders, Phonograph Records Magazine
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:15 (thirteen years ago)
you need rock crit quotes on a BOC thread. its only right and natural. dunno why mike thought it was important for BOC to transcend heavy metal though...
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:16 (thirteen years ago)
Keep em coming Scott Seward. I would love copies of those reviews if you have em on pdf or some such...
Isn't it xgau who starts some review saying, "warning: critics band!" (And then later sex something like "sometime last year I began to wonder if a cross between Uriah Heap and the Velvet Underground was my idea of a good time")
― broom air, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:29 (thirteen years ago)
OK, how about (in no particular order) :
Joan Crawford(Don't Fear) The ReaperETII Love The NightTransmanaicon MC7 Screaming Diz-BustersSubhumanFlaming TelepathsAstronomyThen Came The Last Days Of May
but narrowing it down to 10 is a killer, how about POXXX?
― 0O0O0O0O0 (Matt #2), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:33 (thirteen years ago)
so far my list would probably have to include "Transmaniacon MC", "Cities On Flame With Rock And Roll" and "Hot Rails To Hell". which is a pretty normal way to start, i guess. i can be normal. first side of T&M is kinda all great.
actually those quotes just come from the sticker on the cover of Tyranny & Mutation! but i'm sure some of those are searchable online.
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:33 (thirteen years ago)
that's a good list, matt. i'm sure i will like all the lists anyone does! ten is hard. but that's what makes it fun.
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:34 (thirteen years ago)
all the xgau fit to print:
Blue Oyster Cult [Columbia, 1972]Warning: critics' band, managed by Sandy Pearlman with occasional lyrics by R. Meltzer. Reassurance: the most musical hard rock album since Who's Next. (Well, that's less than six months, and this is not a great time for hard rock albums.) The style is technocratic psychedelic, a distanced, decisively post-Altamont reworking of the hallucinogenic guitar patterns of yore, with lots of heavy trappings. Not that they don't have a lyrical side. In "Then Came the Last Days of May," for instance, four young men ride out to seek their fortune in the dope biz and one makes his by wasting the other three. B+Tyranny and Mutation [Columbia, 1973]Says S. Pearlman: "We want to be disgusting, not trans-repulsive." Says R. Meltzer: "This is really hard rock comedy." Musically, Long Island's only underground band impales the entire heavy ethos on a finely-honed guitar neck, often at high speed, which is the punch line. And the lyrics aren't inaudible, just unbelievable--a parody-surreal refraction of the abysmal "poetry" of heavy, with its evil women and gods of hellfire. Which is not to suggest that it doesn't become what it takes off from. But is that bad or good? B+
Secret Treaties [Columbia, 1974]Sometime over the past year, while I wasn't playing their records, I began to wonder whether a cross between the Velvet Underground and Uriah Heep was my idea of a good time. The driving, effortless wit and density of Buck Dharma's guitar flourish in this cold climate, but Eric Bloom couldn't project emotion if they let him, and I'm square enough to find his pseudo-pseudospade cynicism less than funny. Subject of "Dominance and Submission": New Year's 1964 in Times Square. B
On Your Feet or on Your Knees [Columbia, 1975]This live double, proof that they've earned the right to issue cheapo product, is a fitting testament. The packaging makes their ominoso joke more explicit than it's ever been, and if the music is humdrum more often than searing, maybe that means these closet intellectuals have finally achieved the transubstantiation of their most baroque fantasies. C+
Agents of Fortune [Columbia, 1976]Just when I figured they were doomed to repeat themselves until the breakup, they come up with the Fleetwood Mac of heavy metal, not as fast as Tyranny and Mutation but longer on momentum, with MOR tongue-in-cheek replacing the black-leather posturing and future games. I wonder how long it took them to do the la-la-las on "Debbie Denise" without cracking up. B+
Spectres [Columbia, 1977]Although Sandy Pearlman used to say the Cult's audience couldn't tolerate any suggestion that the band's laser-and-leathers fooforaw was funny, their parodic side has become progressively more overt. What do today's Cultists think of "Godzilla" ("Oh no there goes Tokyo") or the beerhall intro to "Golden Age of Leather"? I bet some of 'em like laughing at laser-and-leathers, and good. I also bet some of 'em are so zonked they wouldn't get it if John Belushi emceed, and to, er, hell with them. B
Mirrors [Columbia, 1979]The Cult's identity has been deteriorating for years, but this is a quantum leap into anonymity--songs for slick (what happened to dense?) hard rock band by five different musicians and their numerous collaborators. Only "In Thee," a farewell to Patti Smith by Allen Lanier that deserves to become a standard on the order of "Alison," is more than marginally interesting. C
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:47 (thirteen years ago)
Yes, the XGau I know. I always thought he had the BOC trajectory inverted: it seemed much more tongue in cheek at first, and then they really did start to make "a career of evil," if you see what I mean.
All those other reviews you quoted above were news to me. Would love to see more.
Whoever mentioned (in the other thread) that a remaster of On Your Feet Or On Your Knees would be richly appreciated is dead on. I hadn't given that a listen in decades but picked it up at my local used record shop. Wow what a record.
Here's my top ten:
Career of EvilHarvester of EyesME 262This Ain't the Summer of LoveDominance and SubmissionHot Rails to HellTransmaniacon MCFlaming TelepathsAstronomy7 Screaming Dizbusters
― broom air, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)
5 July 1975 was my first ever concert of any kind.
I was 18 and in the U.S. Army. I remember the line all the way around the block outside of the Paramount NW. I had 100 hits of LSD on my person... eating, selling and dropping some on the ground. I was as high as a kite... but in tune with every single note that was played by BOC. The Paramount was the perfect venue for BOC... you could hear a pin drop from the top row. I remember Albert's little shorts... Buck's white suit. It was a scene straight out of the inside of the OYFOOYK album cover. It was the most amazing thing that I had ever seen.... and nothing has ever come close since. Eric shooting a 6 foot long bolt of lightning out of his finger at the end of Flaming Telepaths. I remember watching spec5 Hough inhale a whole freshly lit joint down his throat as the flashpots went off at the start of born to be wild. I remember being amazed at AB's drum solo and Buck's solo that went on for seemingly hours. By far.... the night I would go back and relive if I had the chance. And for 20 years after that night... I preached what I had seen... until I found BOC on the internet. After the show the trip back to Ft. Lewis involves a broken down Honda 500 (550?) stuffed in the trunk of a 66 Chevelle with 6 U.S. servicemen packed inside.
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)
a lot of the best reviews are on rocksbackpages. anyone know how to hack that site?
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:10 (thirteen years ago)
i milk my teenage boc stories too much, i know. (my best buddy was eric bloom's nephew, & i'd always conspire to be at his house when eric visited.) anyway, we were listening to agents of fortune and eric was explaining how reaper was getting a lot of airplay. my friend bobby's father said, eric, i've been telling you this all along -- you just have to go "la la la" and you'll finally start selling some records.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)
he was right too. la la's win every time.
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:17 (thirteen years ago)
has anyone ever named a band Harvester Of Eyes? and if not why not? or The Cagey Cretins. that would be another good one. or The Flaming Telepaths for that matter.
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:18 (thirteen years ago)
this maybe is too hard. if i add "Career of Evil" and "Harvester of Eyes" to my list i've only got five left to choose!
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:20 (thirteen years ago)
^ want your childhood
I Love The NightHot Rails To HellDominance & SubmissionDebby DeniseGoin' Through The MotionsIn TheeCareer Of EvilTrue ConfessionsShe's As Beautiful As A FootOD'd On Life Itself
― henry s, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:21 (thirteen years ago)
Hey! I think I have all 5 members accounted for as lead singers.
― henry s, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:22 (thirteen years ago)
Nice work on the vocalists Henry. I always wondered if Hot Rails to Hell would be even better if Professor Bloom sang it.
BOC were also my first concert, though it was at the beginning of their decline: Revolution by Night tour, Saginaw Civic Center, with Dokken and Aldo Nova opening!
Also there was a bass solo...
― broom air, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:31 (thirteen years ago)
Saginaw, cool! I caught them at Cobo Arena on the Mirrors tour (Rainbow opened), then the next year at the Joe with the Dio version of Black Sabbath.
― henry s, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:41 (thirteen years ago)
Right on! I recall many a smashed bottle of Black Velvet on the floor.
― broom air, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:48 (thirteen years ago)
"Nico and John Cale had this Teutonic attitude about their music which I very much like. I think Lou Reed in his Berlin is projecting the situation of a spy film, the spy standing in the fog smoking a cigarette. I have also been told of the program "Hogan's Heroes", though I have not seen it. We think that no matter what happens Americans cannot relate it. It's still American popcorn chewing gum. It's part of history. I think the Blue Oyster Cult is funny."
-Ralf Hutter of Kraftwerk, in an interview with Lester Bangs in the September 1975 issue of Creem
― henry s, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:50 (thirteen years ago)
This thread inspired me to play Fire of Unknown Origins. My seven-month old was bouncing right along with "Burnin' For You".
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:52 (thirteen years ago)
eric telling us about listing to buck's demo for godzilla: "all i could hear was cash registers."
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 14 April 2012 20:00 (thirteen years ago)
"listening"
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 14 April 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)
Fascinating quote from Hutter.
― broom air, Saturday, 14 April 2012 20:05 (thirteen years ago)
they really knew how to open an album. listening to The Revolution By Night right now and "Take Me Away" is such a good intro. (and kinda the opposite of the next track "Eyes On Fire" which i don't think is anyone's fave.)
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2012 20:16 (thirteen years ago)
still one of the best things for utter buck-ness on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAi1mIHb2FU
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2012 20:24 (thirteen years ago)
and this still best for utter bass-ness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZRiV0qaJkQ
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2012 20:27 (thirteen years ago)
ETI: I love how no one in the band is wearing a shirt with sleeves. A great version too -- definitely tops the studio version.
― broom air, Saturday, 14 April 2012 20:53 (thirteen years ago)
one of my favorite parts of the BOC live show was the "Godzilla" intro: Eric Bloom setting the scene, "so, you're all alone, there at home, chilling out, smoking a ...joint [wild applause], when you start hearing some strange kind of noise"...{bass drum thump]..."it's getting louder!"...[THUMP THUMP THUMP}..."could it be?...oh my God, it IS!"...enter Spinal Tap-esque Godzilla head with illuminated eyes, breathing smoke machine fog...
― henry s, Saturday, 14 April 2012 20:53 (thirteen years ago)
OMG bass solo. "without whom all this would not have been necessary"
― broom air, Saturday, 14 April 2012 20:55 (thirteen years ago)
That ETI clip may have been the only time in BOC history that all members of the original line-up sported facial hair (stubble notwithstanding).
― henry s, Saturday, 14 April 2012 20:58 (thirteen years ago)
a woman in my store right now used to work with albert bouchard at a school for at-risk kids in harlem. they put on an opera that the kids wrote. see, you learn all kinds of things when you play BOC in your store.
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 April 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)
good god where the hell is your store?
― broom air, Saturday, 14 April 2012 21:47 (thirteen years ago)
For me the only way to do this is one song per album...
Transmaniacon MC7 Screaming Diz-BustersSubhumanETII Love The NightMirrorsDeadlineVeteran of the Psychic WarsShooting Shark[skips Imaginos and CLub Ninja]Harvest Moon[scowls at running out of room cuz there's still "Pocket" from the last album]
― tales from endoscopic oceans (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 14 April 2012 23:08 (thirteen years ago)
go ahead. you can do it.
ugh, i'm not so sure about that...
― Stormy Davis, Saturday, 14 April 2012 23:37 (thirteen years ago)
"Before The Kiss, A Redcap""The Red And The Black""Dominance And Submission""Career of Evil""E.T.I. (Extra Terrestial Intelligence)""Godzilla""Don't Fear The Reaper""Golden Age of Leather""Joan Crawford""Veteran of The Psychic Wars"
― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Sunday, 15 April 2012 00:49 (thirteen years ago)
could do ten more in a flash
ok, i just starting writing down the first songs that entered my head as absolutely all-time faves, and stopped when I reached ten. didn't rank them, just listed whatever entered my mind in order-
E.T.I.OD'd on Life ItselfBurnin For YouBlack BladeDominance and SubmissionM.E. 262Career of EvilGolden Age of LeatherStairway to the StarsTransmaniacon MC
― Stormy Davis, Sunday, 15 April 2012 00:59 (thirteen years ago)
the older i get the more i really just think christgau sucks so much. i find his tone and whole persona just incredibly irritating beyond belief. i used to sort of "admire" him because it feels like you're supposed to, but his whole smug non-committal half-zing backhanded compliment thing is annoying as fuck.
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 15 April 2012 02:15 (thirteen years ago)
^word is bond
― tales from endoscopic oceans (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 15 April 2012 02:27 (thirteen years ago)
In no order:
E.T.I.Veteran of the Psychic Wars ("Extraterrestrial Live" version)Dominance and SubmissionAstronomyStairway To The Stars7 Screaming DizbustersSubhumanMirrorsI Love The NightTransmaniacon MC
Damn, 10 is too few! Damn, can't believe I had no room for "Reaper!" And damn, I picked the wrong day to quit smoking!
― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 15 April 2012 02:36 (thirteen years ago)
(and fuck that cowbell sketch)
― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 15 April 2012 02:38 (thirteen years ago)
metal mike, meltzer, AND christgau all seem to agree that BOC were great partly because they were better/smarter/more clever/more self-aware than your average metal band:
"Says R. Meltzer: "This is really hard rock comedy." Musically, Long Island's only underground band impales the entire heavy ethos on a finely-honed guitar neck, often at high speed, which is the punch line."
plus, xgau's whole: they're really funny and clever and if you don't get that cuz you're so zonked out well forget you.
which, i'll be honest, bugs me. obviously if BOC were JUST funny/clever/smarter they wouldn't be what they are. or they would be a different band altogether. they didn't sell so many records because of their witty lyics. and having buck in your band automatically makes you a better band no matter who you are. so, xgau did get that right.
read something online somewhere today where someone said that BOC are both underrated and overrated and i see a germ of truth there. the thinking man's/critic's metal tag gets too much play. even by me! (duh the guy quoting all the quotes) when list after list you just can't help notice how GREAT and utterly COOL the songs are. on a completely gut level. no critiking required. and they managed that neat trick of being progressive (without being boring or self-indulgent and, no, 4 hour BOC solos are NOT self-indulgent they are required listening) AND heavy AND completely catchy and later way poppy and they did it really well. yet, so did a lot of other people. think that's where i diverge with xgau line of thinking. thin lizzy were smart. stooges were smart. mc5 were smart. alice cooper band was smart. friggin' sabbath were SMART. no end to smart heavy stuff. so, i - though i'm younger than these crit dudes - never saw a need for an antidote to hard rock thuggishness. plus, i like tons of "dumb" stuff too.
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 April 2012 02:38 (thirteen years ago)
o yeah, Christgau sucks big time. there isn't any sense ever that he actually enjoys music. It's just his "job" to listen to every album that comes across his desk. what a horrible life.
this is the best
― Stormy Davis, Sunday, 15 April 2012 02:47 (thirteen years ago)
<3 Byron
― Stormy Davis, Sunday, 15 April 2012 02:49 (thirteen years ago)
haha! Byron! i spent a nice evening with byron a couple weeks back down at the feeding tube. he's fun to talk to. byron is just as crazy as xgau if you ask me. though i would probably agree with byron way more about music. i've totally consciously or unconsciously ripped both of them off a ton so there is that. been reading both of them since i was a mere boy.
and he totally ENJOYS music, stormy. you can't say he doesn't. i just don't get a lot of his loves and he hates probably most of what i like. i don't hold that against him though.
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 April 2012 02:53 (thirteen years ago)
I've read that Bangs piece many times, and I can't help thinking he made up all the Kraftwerk quotes himself.
― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 15 April 2012 02:54 (thirteen years ago)
i actually had drunken conversations with both byron AND christgau in the last month. both very pleasant evenings and conversations really. they both have really big brains.
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 April 2012 02:56 (thirteen years ago)
oh but that's what i wanted to add: creem's whole THE STOOGES ARE THE BEST BAND IN THE WORLD thing and all that from back then. i didn't have to fight those wars. i didn't have to champion BOC as an antidote to anything. so its a totally different worldview/experience that those guys had. i have never felt threatened by uh i dunno Bread or James Taylor or whatever rock band those hepcat crits thought was phoney or whatever st the time.
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 April 2012 02:59 (thirteen years ago)
yeah I was being over the top in criticizing Xgau; i mean, i own the 70s and 80s guides and i've read them both pretty much from start to finish. and i do think he is a great writer. but almost NEVER agree with him on anything. and he is such a killjoy. and i do wonder if his talent would be better applied doing .... something else. of course he must enjoy on some level all of the records that he ranks highly. but i really do think there is some quote out there somewhere where he talks about the reviewing as his job, and sort of states that he can't afford to get too invested in 'music' qua particular artists, albums, etc
― Stormy Davis, Sunday, 15 April 2012 03:13 (thirteen years ago)
The Guides show how over time he's gotten into some acts he initially dismissed, like Sonic Youth, who have gotten at least one A+, and he sez "I love 'em to piecees." And he's long-time friends with some musicians, but the thing is, Stormy, it's not fair to the readers if you're too invested in particular artists. Like Chuck quoted Byron (in an interview, so no secret), as saying of Sonic Youth and the Swans, "Those people are my friends," and he'd never say anything to offend them. This as a reply to Chuck expressing some of what he thought were these bands weak points, and implying that however true such comments were, he, Coley, was in no position to agree. Got so bad, Mykel Board even put out those parody records, as Swanic Youth and Swan Jovi, although they were advertised in Forced Exposure, Coley saw the humor of the whole thing. But being friends or even just sort of pen pals, I've seen how musicians can look for, even assumme an advantage in that. Good that Bangs gave Lanier a hard time in Creem, recounting drunken arguments, when he thought they were turning into the kind of arena hacks they'd started out turning into glorious parodies. Speaking of arena rock, I wasn't a professional writer then, but my friends who were (also photographers) got so fucking sick of that shit in the early 70s--it wasn't like being in high school and having these occasional weekend adventures, if you were in NYC especially, like Xgau, who also went to clubs a lot (and had been writing about shows, band profiles, etc, in between reviews, for six or seven years before BOC made it downstate), you too might have an aversion to seeing the same moves, on stage and in the audience, every night. One reason punk had to happen, for crits and others. But BOC were great when they were any good at all (he's really wrong about On Your Feet) Music is about the power of association, and it can be really hard to get past the social associations--certain sounds can remind you of certain assholes, and you stop listening before you follow the sound to the artist's intended effect--or even if you do follow it--so xgau knew perfectly well what they were doing, but the assholes from last night's show, and tonight's, and tomorrow night, kept giving him static, Plus, he's never approved much metal, only Motorhead and Slayer come to mind. His loss, of course.
― dow, Sunday, 15 April 2012 04:04 (thirteen years ago)
Sorry to get into that "you" shit, just bad rhetoric, I've had kneejerk responses too of course.
― dow, Sunday, 15 April 2012 04:10 (thirteen years ago)
no strong opinion on christgau. read his consumer guides for years as a matter of course and never got much out of them. they mostly seemed mechanical, and i never got a bead on where he was coming from.
coley was a god to me in my late teens & early 20s, his FE salad days, and the dog story is funny, but i just can't get on board with that attitude. i love the bands and records he bashes xgau for liking, but i've never thought anyone was a better or worse critic on the basis of their fucking taste. i don't give a shit about that. i just want to read good writing that expresses interesting thinking. that somebody prefers some nameless bette midler record i'll never hear to clear spot? i don't give a shit about that.
― BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Sunday, 15 April 2012 05:50 (thirteen years ago)
anyway...
i cut "don't fear the reaper" and "burning for you" from my POX. i cut them because they loom so large over the band's pop career that it seems redundant to actually mention them. they were the first BOC songs i ever loved, and i love them still, so trust me, they're in here:
1) The Red and the Black - Tyranny and Mutation2) Black Blade - Cultosaurus Erectus3) Before the Kiss, a Redcap - Blue Oyster Cult4) Career of Evil - Secret Treaties5) The Subhuman (live) - On Your Feet or On Your Knees6) Screams/She's as Beautiful as a Foot - Blue Oyster Cult*7) Dominance and Submission - Secret Treaties8) Astronomy (live) - Some Enchanted Evening9) Godzilla (live) - Some Enchanted Evening10) Unknown Tongue - Cultosaurus Erectus
* cheating, yeah, but i can't separate 'em
― BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Sunday, 15 April 2012 06:03 (thirteen years ago)
i love the bands and records he bashes xgau for liking, but...
uh, make that, "i love the bands and records he bashes xgau for disliking, but..."
xp
― BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Sunday, 15 April 2012 07:18 (thirteen years ago)
I get annoyed by Xgau bashing. He's a great writer. The point of the best writing is not that you're expected to agree.
― broom air, Sunday, 15 April 2012 15:19 (thirteen years ago)
can't find my s/t LP, but just unearthed the 2001 reissue, with four bonus Soft White Underbelly tracks. Don't know if s/t was re-mastered too much, or not enough, but listening on good headphones, immediately reminded of the reason I didn't use headphones much back in the day: instruments crowd the vocals. Also, the guitar solos aren't doing much, it's more about the groovy exotic textures, like in "Screams," and the fluidity of transitions, transformations, like passing through the snaaake--still, a bit subtle for '72 boys (time of Quaaludes, cheap booze, dirtweed; nobody I know could afford decent coke, except those shady trust fund kids)Were tney really going for a mass audience for this, or crit-bait? If so, guess it was publicity for the tours, which they quickly became known for. But I still like most of the songs, and some of the performances (yeah, "Before The Kiss, A Redcap," for inst) Really smitten anew by "Redeemed": sounds like a sinister Band song, as if Robertson had gotten lured deeper into "Jupiter's Hollow." After all this conjectural consideration by the masterminds, the Soft White Underbelly tracks jump right out. Much faster, more nimble, no prob w Dharma solos here, or Lanier's keys, Al's drumming, damn--reminds me, what are Brain Surgeons NYC up to these days? I like 'em. Also, anybody heard Dharma's solo album? Or more Soft White Underbell? Here's the ones here:"Donovan's Monkey," "What Is Quicksand?" "A Fact About Sneakers," and "Betty Lou's Got A New Pair of Shoes."
― dow, Sunday, 15 April 2012 20:14 (thirteen years ago)
the first BOC album was remastered in 2001, but still sounds muddy as hell. agree that the guitar solos aren't really jaw-dropping, but i think they generally serve the tunes and moods quite well, for ex the surging melodic ascent at the center of "transmaniacon MC". i'm also somewhat surprised by the critical acclaim heaped on the debut at the time, as it seems a bit uneven and formative in retrospect. the songs i love best are "transmaniacon", "before the kiss", "screams"/"she's a s beautiful", "cities on flame" and "workshop of the telescopes" (terribly underrated imo). the others are interesting, but not quite there. maybe i'm slighting "stairway to the stars", i dunno...
never got the hang of the SFG/SWU stuff. faster and more nimble, yeah, like tyranny and mutation minus the heavy metal, but too SF-style jammy and structurally loose for my taste. "arthur comics" is the one SFG track i keep coming back to.
― BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Sunday, 15 April 2012 21:07 (thirteen years ago)
These four tracks are very concise, though chock full of goodness. Yeah, "She's As Beautiful As A Foot," music *and* words, Meltzer done good.
― dow, Sunday, 15 April 2012 21:13 (thirteen years ago)
Last I heard Joe Bouchard was in a band with Dennis Dunaway. (Playing guitar.) I hope there's a lost Allen Lanier album out there somewhere, perhaps a treasure trove of troubled torch songs, in the vein of "Dance The Night Away". (One of the bonus tracks on the remastered Agents of Fortune.
― henry s, Sunday, 15 April 2012 21:24 (thirteen years ago)
"Gil Blanco County" is a beautiful one from the Stalk-Forrest Group album. Sounds a little like Notorious Byrd Brothers.
― timellison, Sunday, 15 April 2012 21:30 (thirteen years ago)
You don't say! Intriguing, esp. considering the twisted rootsiness of "Redeemed," and the twangy, slippery garage(revving up for the arena) boogie feel at times in these BOC/SWU tracks. Also maybe a foretaste of the sinister Byrdsy serenity now of "Don't Fear The Reaper."
― dow, Sunday, 15 April 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)
i cut "don't fear the reaper" and "burning for you" from my POX. i cut them because they loom so large over the band's pop career that it seems redundant to actually mention them.
yeah me too. but i feel bad not voting for any songs w/meltzer lyrics - "stairway to the stars" instead of "godzilla" would be my do-over
― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Sunday, 15 April 2012 22:37 (thirteen years ago)
don't understand why xgau would even come up on this thread, it's not like he wrote any lyrics for BOC. "in thee" not exactly running up the votes here
― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Sunday, 15 April 2012 22:40 (thirteen years ago)
then again, this is DEEP: "history shows again and again how nature points up the folly of men Godzilla!"
― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Sunday, 15 April 2012 22:45 (thirteen years ago)
http://makemyday.free.fr/68/68poster42.jpg
― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Sunday, 15 April 2012 22:49 (thirteen years ago)
― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Sunday, April 15, 2012 3:45 PM (20 minutes ago)
OTM
― does Red Stripe work like poppers? (Abbbottt), Sunday, 15 April 2012 23:06 (thirteen years ago)
This is impossible, this is not a real top ten, these are ten.
MommyBlack BladeFlaming Telepaths7 Screaming Diz-BustersDeadlineShe's As Beautiful As A FootVeinsWings Wetted DownDominance and SubmissionA Fact ABout Sneakers
― does Red Stripe work like poppers? (Abbbottt), Sunday, 15 April 2012 23:13 (thirteen years ago)
Mommy probably does not belong in there but I have put it on every mix tape ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN5pkn5L62E
I hate dem dames!
Flaming Telepaths7 Screaming Diz-BustersDeadlineWings Wetted Down
yeah, flirted with all these BOC. my PanotherX (w "reaper", "burning" & the studio versions of the live songs i mentioned earlier still sidelined but implied):
Transmaniacon MCWorkshop of the TelescopesWings Wetted Down7 Screaming Diz BustersHarvester of EyesFlaming TelepathsThis Ain't the Summer of LoveDeadlineFire of Unknown OriginKick Out the Jams (live) - championed upthread by m@tt, i've listened to it probably 30 times since, so great and, yeah, better than the MC5's originalArthur Comics
― BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Sunday, 15 April 2012 23:44 (thirteen years ago)
err, 11, and i'm still cutting so much stuff i'd want on my own personal "best of" mix
― BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Sunday, 15 April 2012 23:45 (thirteen years ago)
err, championed in the BOC albums thread
― BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Sunday, 15 April 2012 23:46 (thirteen years ago)
buck's guitar on "arthur comics" is as beautiful as a foot
― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Monday, 16 April 2012 00:06 (thirteen years ago)
many xposts, dow, as far as I know Brain Surgeons NYC split up when Albert and his wife/bandmate split up inamicably a few years ago. Denial Of Death is a great album if you don't have it.
I think the Bouchard Bros. are doing a new band now... Blue Coupe?
― tales from endoscopic oceans (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 April 2012 16:12 (thirteen years ago)
Damn, too bad about Brain Surgeons NYC. Wonder if Deborah Frost is still preforming, writing about music? They weren't perfect, but certainly could go on a roll. Songs like "1864" and "Lonestar" even got 'em on my Nashville Scene ballot (re xpost "twisted rootsiness" of some BOC upthread)http://www.albertbouchard.net/files/images/bhoslogo.jpg
― dow, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:23 (thirteen years ago)
And didn't Al Bouchard review for Downbeat?
― dow, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:24 (thirteen years ago)
Cites on FlameThen Came the Last Days of MayThe Red and the BlackHot Rails to HellSeven Screaming DizbustersDominance and SubmissonThis Aint the Summer of LoveETI (live off of Some Enchanted Evening)AstronomyGodzilla
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:40 (thirteen years ago)
"even got 'em on my Nashville Scene ballot (re xpost "twisted rootsiness" of some BOC upthread)"
i always thought of "Godzilla" as chopped & screwed Lynyrd Skynyrd.
― scott seward, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:46 (thirteen years ago)
Finally signed up for Spotify, now attempting to queue up M@tt's BOC playlist...
― tales from endoscopic oceans (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)
OK what's up with the belching sound effects and how do i make it stop. Is this punishment for users of the free option?
― tales from endoscopic oceans (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:23 (thirteen years ago)
I prefer rdio.com's freebie--no ads, no burps.
― dow, Monday, 16 April 2012 18:32 (thirteen years ago)
LOLOLOL it was the website I had open in another tab of a meat pie restaurant!
(it was consistently coming in on beat during Hot Rails To Hell!)
― tales from endoscopic oceans (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:36 (thirteen years ago)
save that lucky accident! for the djs post your mixes here thread
― dow, Monday, 16 April 2012 18:38 (thirteen years ago)
― tales from endoscopic oceans (Jon Lewis), Monday, April 16, 2012 1:02 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i'm very happy with my playlist but i had to make a conscious effort not to include every song from Tryanny & Secret Treaties so a few good ones get left out....but you kinda have to or it's more just a complete discography not a mix
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)
also: Imaginos isn't on spotify so that album is not represented (though i understand i'm probably not missing much)
Cello on Joan Crawford <3 <3 <3
― tales from endoscopic oceans (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)
m@tt have you done one of these for Rush?
nah i've only done 2 big playlists, an old school rap one and BOC, both were just sort of spur of the moment things when i got into spotify, shit i was into listening to, but yeah would be fun to listen to a bunch of rush for a week and do one
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)
This is great bc I really wanted to put all my BOC on the ipod for work today but was too exhausted last night.
― tales from endoscopic oceans (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:30 (thirteen years ago)
i'm actually listening to it now..."i love the night" is a thing of strange beauty
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 April 2012 19:34 (thirteen years ago)
Best BOC song: Veterans of the Psychic Wars
― Poliopolice, Monday, 16 April 2012 19:41 (thirteen years ago)
^ used to think this. find it a bit tiresome now. not saying that it's bad, just that its pop rewards are slight.
― BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 20:09 (thirteen years ago)
Wow, I just heard the most awful dance-pop cover of "Burnin' For You". Going by wiki it might have been the Shiny Toy Guns cover, but I'm not familiar with them enough to know if it was or not. It was a trainwreck.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 May 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)
A much happier wreck: the use of BOC's original over the car crash scene in Let Me In.
― Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 May 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)
Huh, maybe I will have to watch that sometime.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 May 2012 19:09 (thirteen years ago)
It's good! The ways in which it differs from the Swedish one are really interesting.
― Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 May 2012 19:15 (thirteen years ago)
A very watered down cover version of Burning for You was used in a lame commercial a few years ago.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Monday, 7 May 2012 19:31 (thirteen years ago)
According to wiki that is the Shiny Toy Guns version, but I don't recall that commercial to know if it was the same crappy version or not.
Hmm, I'll look out for it then. I had thought I didn't need to see the Americanized version since I really liked the original.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 May 2012 19:33 (thirteen years ago)
did u guys see this. http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=1083it is pretty rockin'
― tylerw, Monday, 7 May 2012 19:35 (thirteen years ago)
Ooo sweet!
― Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 May 2012 19:53 (thirteen years ago)
During the surf music wave of the 90s, Drag Strip did a great instrumental cover of Don't Fear The Reaper. Including the guitar solo!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3valJGHCR6Q
― Vini Reilly Invasion (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 02:42 (thirteen years ago)
FRANKIE CAMARO siting on ILX!!!
I know that guy and have seen him play a ton when I lived in Bloomington. He's a killer guitar player and cool dude.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 04:23 (thirteen years ago)
thanks for the pointer to that providence show, tyler. setting me up right.
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 05:20 (thirteen years ago)
god, this is great
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 05:27 (thirteen years ago)
Dance On Stilts from Curse of the Hidden Mirror is a fucking killer tune just f everybody's i
― cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 08:13 (thirteen years ago)
Thanks for posting that boot above, that's awesome.
Check my display name for a hint at what i think is at the moment my favorite BOC tune
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 13:52 (thirteen years ago)
xpost 'Dance on Stilts' is one of the keepers from Curse... for sure.
― Hierophantiasis (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 15:02 (thirteen years ago)
yeah i'm really enjoying that bootleg. not perfect sound, but a very nice you are there ambiance. you can almost smell the pot smoke.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)
Subject: BOC announcement -- anniversary and remastersLegacy Recordings, the catalog division of Sony Music Entertainment, will celebrate the 40th anniversary of Blue Öyster Cult--unleashed in 1972, the eponymous debut album from America's heaviest psychedelic metal band presaged punk, thrash and hardcore--with the release of Blue Öyster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection, a monumental career-spanning BÖC library comprised of 16 CDs (the full official canon plus two discs of rarities) and the mythic Some OTHER Enchanted Evening DVD (a blistering concert video from 1978). The highly-collectible boxed set will be available Tuesday, October 30.
Blue Öyster Cult (led by founding members Eric Bloom and Donald "Buck Dharma" Roeser) will perform an historic New York City/Times Square show--featuring special guests and other surprises--at the Best Buy Theater (44th & Broadway, Manhattan) on Sunday, October 28 (doors at 7pm). Tickets go on sale, Friday, August 17. Reserved seating is available for the show.
A limited number (100) of individual deluxe VIP packages for the Times Square Show will also be offered. Designed to provide the ultimate BÖC experience, each deluxe VIP package includes Blue Öyster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection (in advance of street date!) in addition to a guaranteed seat in the first five rows of the Best Buy Theater for the BÖC Times Square concert; a pre-show meet & greet with the band; an autographed limited edition Blue Öyster Cult event poster and an exclusive commemorative laminate.
Blue Öyster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection brings together the group's 14 official Columbia Records albums--including newly-mastered editions of On Your Feet or on Your Knees, Fire of Unknown Origin, The Revölution by Night, Mirrors, Cultösaurus Erectus, Extraterrestrial Live, Club Ninja and Imaginos--alongside two newly-curated bonus discs: Rarities and Radios Appear: The Best of the Broadcasts (a special collection of classic live performances).
In addition, the Blue Öyster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection box set comes with a special download code good for four live concert broadcasts as well as as a forty page booklet chock full of photos and liner notes from celebrated music writer and guitarist Lenny Kaye.
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Blue Öyster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection includes:1. Blue Öyster Cult (1972 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks)2. Tyranny and Mutation (1973 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks)3. Secret Treaties (1974 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks) 4. On Your Feet or on Your Knees (1975 - live) - 2012 Remaster5. Agents of Fortune (1976 - studio - with 2001 CD bonus tracks)6. Spectres (1977 - studio - with 2007 CD bonus tracks)7. Some Enchanted Evening CD (1978 - live - with 2007 CD bonus tracks)8. Some OTHER Enchanted Evening DVD (1978 - live)9. Mirrors (1979 - studio) - 2012 Remaster10. Cultösaurus Erectus (1980 - studio) - 2012 Remaster11. Fire of Unknown Origin (1981 - studio) - 2012 Remaster12. Extraterrestrial Live (1982 - live) - 2012 Remaster13. The Revölution By Night (1983 - studio) - 2012 Remaster14. Club Ninja (1985 - studio) - 2012 Remaster15. Imaginos (1988 - studio) - 2012 Remaster
16. Rarities17. Radios Appear: The Best of the Broadcasts
Originally formed in Long Island as Soft White Underbelly in 1967, Blue Öyster Cult combined adventurous lyrical themes with an aggressive instrumental sound. With passion and intelligence on display in equal measure, Blue Öyster Cult became the thinking fan’s rock band and a sign of life in a sea of dull, anemic soft-pop. Anthems like “Godzilla,” “Harvester of Eyes” and “Don’t Fear the Reaper” stretched the boundaries of rock topics while lead guitarist Donald “Buck Dharma” Roeser became a hero to legions of budding axe-wielders. The band’s mystique extended to their album artwork, resulting in some of the most distinctive and iconic LP covers of the rock era. Blue Öyster Cult - The Columbia Albums Collection gathers the essential pieces of the Blue Öyster Cult story into one mind-boggling totality.
Logon to www.blueoystercult.com for information about presale tickets for the Oct. 28th show at the Best Buy Theatre.
― broom air, Thursday, 23 August 2012 23:54 (thirteen years ago)
psyched for the new remasters (CULTO!) and rarities discs, though the box is way out of my price range.
― contenderizer, Friday, 24 August 2012 00:00 (thirteen years ago)
I know. Any guesses if they'll be available individually? It might almost be worth it for On Your Feet Or On Your Knees and Lenny Kaye's (!) booklet.
― broom air, Friday, 24 August 2012 00:03 (thirteen years ago)
I don't expect any of the remasters to be separately released. None of the prior "complete records" boxes have had any remasters sold as single albums. Cuts into box sales if you can pick and choose.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 24 August 2012 00:04 (thirteen years ago)
i'm assuming some of these will be the previous issued remasters from a few years ago?
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2012 00:09 (thirteen years ago)
the list above shows which remastering batch they're from
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 24 August 2012 00:10 (thirteen years ago)
ok
also sad there's nothing new in the vaults from these 2
10. Cultösaurus Erectus (1980 - studio) - 2012 Remaster11. Fire of Unknown Origin (1981 - studio) - 2012 Remaster
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2012 00:10 (thirteen years ago)
could be on the rarities disc.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 24 August 2012 00:12 (thirteen years ago)
I assume they're not padding those out because they're not being sold as single discs like the prior remasters had been.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 24 August 2012 00:13 (thirteen years ago)
yeah hope there's more from those eras on the rarities....would love some fire outtakes
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2012 00:15 (thirteen years ago)
^^^
― contenderizer, Friday, 24 August 2012 00:20 (thirteen years ago)
Non box question: has anyone seen Blue Coupe play ? It's Dennis Dunaway from the Alice Cooper band (the "Coupe") and the Bouchard brothers from BOC (the "Blue"). I've heard good things.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 24 August 2012 00:22 (thirteen years ago)
damn! that could be cool.
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2012 00:23 (thirteen years ago)
This is a band having fun:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKiJzZ5YKZs
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 24 August 2012 00:27 (thirteen years ago)
i mean that's not a whole lot sillier than eric bloom circa 2012......that said the real thing still have buck dharma and there are still moments with him where you're just real amazed to be in the same casino
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2012 00:34 (thirteen years ago)
true.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 24 August 2012 00:36 (thirteen years ago)
pretty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gVmETShDrc&feature=channel&list=UL
― scott seward, Friday, 24 August 2012 01:46 (thirteen years ago)
wow
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2012 01:49 (thirteen years ago)
Wow indeed.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 24 August 2012 01:55 (thirteen years ago)
that led me on a youtube link journey that made me discover that bonnie tyler has a total eclipse of the cult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lairGgAh_MI&feature=related
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2012 01:57 (thirteen years ago)
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj242/donaldparsley/boceyes.jpg
― contenderizer, Friday, 24 August 2012 02:14 (thirteen years ago)
XD
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2012 02:30 (thirteen years ago)
they did reaper too!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUdZt18W18o&feature=BFa&list=UL7gVmETShDrc
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2012 02:32 (thirteen years ago)
Got my tickets for the Oct 28th times square show. Hope it doesn't get 'special guest'ed to death-- I really just wanna see a fired up regular BOC show.
Box set is out of my price range but I'll buy it anyway. Remastered Knees, Cultosaurus, Fire all at once? I mean, christ.
I think it's gonna run in the 130 buck range.
― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Friday, 24 August 2012 02:35 (thirteen years ago)
^^^the box set that is, not the concert...
― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Friday, 24 August 2012 02:36 (thirteen years ago)
lolol WRONG LINK
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2012 02:37 (thirteen years ago)
ok this is fucking weird.
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2012 02:38 (thirteen years ago)
this is a marching band playing burning for you, not hear n aid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke1DwXupckk&feature=related
and this is the high school choir that i'm WATCHING RIGHT NOW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUdZt18W18o
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2012 02:39 (thirteen years ago)
Wow, winterguard and a pagan ribbon batallion. Go 9th ward marching band!
― drawings by teen cultists (Crabbits), Friday, 24 August 2012 03:09 (thirteen years ago)
lol, i have an album of that (9th ward marching band). quintron put it together. has covers of "burnin for you", "crazy train", "slow ride", bunch of other jams. pretty fun.
― contenderizer, Friday, 24 August 2012 03:45 (thirteen years ago)