Modern Rock #1 Hits of 2000

fuel

All of these songs I liked initially until they got played to death for months.

http://www.vh1.com/shared/promoimages/bands/b/blink_182/all_the_small_things/320x240.jpg

already voted for blink last time so going with Kryptonite over Hemorrhage

so easy to transpose these execrable titles! Such as: "All The Small Things (In My Hands)"

i....don't think i can vote

i always thought the line in "All the Small Things" was "a little bit nil" instead of the equally stupid "my little windmill"

i never knew the "real name" of that fuel song was hemorrhage

its interesting how the 98 chart had like actual "alternative" bands and then 99 --> radio was just like "fuck it"

id' like to credit it to Napster/YOUR HARD DRIVE, but i think it's just a coincidence that alt-rock was dyin

I relistened to the Green Day to remind myself that it was as dumb as I thought. Voted for Blink 182.

spin did their best to suggest nu-metal was alternative until woodstock 99 made that untenable

nah, spin's nu-metal coverage was pretty open about it's begrudgingness

back 2 my point doe, like the inevitable LimbsKing polls of 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012 are just gonna be Green Day, Chili Peppers, Offspring and Foo Fighters trading places and doing different versions of their formula

i didn't mean to suggest it wasn't begrudgingly doing this

save System of a Down, obv

a) I had completely forgotten about this Fuel song
b) lol @ Ryan Tedder and Jesse McCartney stealing half the imagery from this song for "Bleeding Love"

Superman 6: Last Resort Kryptonite

I had completely blocked this Green Day song from my mind, too

I am boggling that I am seriously considering voting for Papa Roach

as much as i hate elements of american idiot, the bright side is that they turned billie's guitar back up after this album

merican idiot is gr8

Since I voted for Blink 182 last time, I think this might be the end of the line for me. (I don't know--maybe something will turn up.) The early 2000s for me were all about Missy Elliot.

yeah yeah we know

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i didnt know Minority was a #1. i remember seeing them playing it on letterman that year and thinking 'man these guys are washed up' lol

they were def going down the mellow pearl jam path until they apparently saw a U2 show and realized there was another option

voted Last Resotr

I don't give a fuck if I cut my arm bleeding

I sometimes feel sorry for people who were born five years later than me.

I often feel sorry for ILXers born five years earlier than me.

lol, Blink's going to win two in a row

I really, really like "Adam's Song." It's sad in the most maudlin way possible, but the "please tell Mom this is not her fault" line gets me every time.

^yeah. that being said, it will be hilarious when ATST wins second poll in a row

not gonna xpost, since Eric refused to acknowledge that it's not just same band but same song

(tho I don't think it's a point lost on anyone)

not to into "Minority" but Warning era Green Day >>> any Green Day since

you should just write pre-2000 Green Day >>>>> any Green Day since

"Otherside" was the only thing from Californication that I kinda liked, so that. That Fuel song got played. the. fuck. out. on the radio back in the early '00s.

actually never mind, I'm voting for "All the Small Things." Even though it was on the 1999 poll too.

Hm, I haven't heard Warning but I really like American Idiot and 21st Century Breakdown. I heard "Longview" the other day. All it did for me was make me feel old.

I think modern rock radio made a major resurgence in 2004 with American Idiot and Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge. (People 10 years younger than me get no pity.)

From about 2000 through 2008, most modern rock sucked. After that, some good bands started creeping back onto the top of playlists (Black Keys, Phoenix, Silversun Pickups).

Three Cheers is a classic to me, but imo the only time Green Day have been true to their fast fun roots in the last 10 years was on the album they released as the Foxboro Hottubs

I actually enjoyed Silversun Pickups when they came out but there's no way I'd rank them over the best emo of the mid-2000s or the White Stripes' hits from that time.

xpost Well yeah, they're not staying true to their pop-punk roots, which is why I like them.

Enjoy the Black Keys though.

Oh yeah... forgot to mention the Stripes. My favorite band of the nu-metal hangover era.

if we wanna talk about the whole decade there's a thread about one of my lorax-loved lists: al ship's top 50 rock singles of the 00s -- which is your favorite?

woah this is dire

Good list!

the only songs that i don't like are the rhcps and green day but it's definitely not the nineties no more

Blink 182, "All the Small Things" - Nope.
Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Otherside" - I don't remember this.
3 Doors Down, "Kryptonite" - LOL
Papa Roach, "Last Resort" - It's fun to sing along to.
Red Hot Chili Peppers, "Californication" - HATE
Green Day, "Minority" - Meh.
Fuel, "Hemorrhage (In My Hands)" - Don't know this.

I might have to abstain.

E I guarantee you know that Fuel song

Oh I remember Otherside now. Might actually be more annoying than Californication.

cut my life into pizzas / i'm voting for papa roach

brb youtubing the fuel song . . .

I actually enjoyed Silversun Pickups when they came out but there's no way I'd rank them over the best emo of the mid-2000s or the White Stripes' hits from that time.

man "Lazy Eye" is better than anything the White Stripes have ever done imo. total banger.

I was an announcer at a modern rock station on the weekends during this time and remember all of these songs not very fondly at all. It's what made me go, you know? fuckit for the next dozen years and just listen to 80s punk bands all the time.

Franz Ferdinand and Spoon may have been worthwhile bands to get into, but I'm sorry, Fuel ruined it for you guys.

DJP - lol oh God yeah that's awful

Franz Ferdinand are not a worthwhile anything

I like a couple FF songs a lot. :/

there's a remix of "Outsiders" that I like

you don't remember, but iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii do

YOU NEVER EVEN TRIIIIIIIIIEEEEED

idk what to vote for

don't vote for 3 doors down

ok i just did

thank u for making up my mind 4 me

This must be where I got off the bus because I have no idea what any of these songs are. I mean, there is little question that most if not all of these would be familiar to me if I played them. But this is the first poll where I just can't associate music to a single one of the song titles.

dude!

all of these songs sans the green day one are croosh

Fuel fans are called "Fuelies" and, in 2010, the band underwent a total lineup change:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/873547880bb3b480cec646bb8111f2d7.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_%28band%29

hahahaha

holy shit

say it ain't so

i only know b182, cali, and fuel but mostly from being in stores at the wrong times

xpost na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na

xpost looks like the singer is still in the band

yeah i noticed that after i posted

Yogi Lonich is a bit flaky and can't decide whether he's coming or going

otm

the fuel song is the only one i can't summon up in my head from the title but i'm sure i know it

voted papa roach because why the fuck not, there's no right choice here

my main beef with the Fuel song is that everytime I hear it I think of this

http://brightcove04.o.brightcove.com/62009797001/62009797001_70694997001_00000000000001446639-640x480-72dpi-RGB.jpg?pubId=62009797001

I voicetracked my modern rock segments, which meant that I only had to listen to the last ten seconds of each song or so.

I tell you, just hearing those chords ring off into the distance made me hate them anymore.

I always backsold the Fuel song as "Hemorrhage –––– In My Hands?" like the centipedes in my vagina woman.

at the time my favorite rock single that year was "Judith" which peaked at #5 on the chart according to wiki

perfect circle i'm guessing

yeah, 2000, would've been prob

yeah

you don't remember, but I do

u never even tried

Will I get shouted at for saying Otherside is a pretty good song?

its definitely the best of the 3 #1s from that record

Another poll I can't even vote in. Don't even like the Blink song, though it's by far the least offensive thing here.

From the non-offensive album, Enema of the State.

man I love those first two APC albums so much

RE: Fuel

Yeah, it looks like Scallions managed to wrest control from Bell and Abercrombie. But a lineup change with no intersecting member is still pretty special.

Modern rock hits that didn't it #1 that year:

Adam's Song Blink 182
With Arms Wide Open Creed
Ex-Girlfriend No Doubt
Man Overboard Blink 182
Original Prankster Offspring
Loser 3 Doors Down
Right Now SR71
Change Deftones
Pardon Me Incubus
Miserable LIT
Take A Picture Filter
Sour Girl Stone Temple Pilots
Wonderful EverClear
Never Let You Go 3rd Eye Blind
Rollin' Limp Bizkit
Judith Perfect Circle
Beautiful Day U2
Everything You Want Vertical Horizon
Bad Touch Bloodhound Gang

Based on these polls, I have requested a copy of Enema of the State at my local library. I'm pretty worried about having to go pick it up.

Loser 3 Doors Down

forces of evil in a bozo nightmare

"with arms wide open" is not one of my favorite creed songs

Everything You Want Vertical Horizon

an actual Hot 100 #1 hit

just youtubed this "otherside" rhcp song. wow. not even a spark of memory. how did something this boring become a hit?

i wanna edit the verizon wikipedia page and say that the company was named after vertical horizon

otherwise is pretty singalongable

http://i.imgur.com/HwzjT.jpg

i seem to remember the album art for Human Clay had longitude and latitude numbers hidden in it and my friend and i were trying to decipher some secret hidden meaning of the record based on it

it leads to a geocache filled w/ unreleased creed jams

Take A Picture Filter

hate

But a lineup change with no intersecting member is still pretty special.

Can't be bothered to read the wiki, but the scenario I'm imagining is an armed hijacking of the van mid-tour somewhere

Change Deftones

"minority" pretty forgettable

"last resort" sounds like a Lonely Island song

post otm, it's the song on this list a care the least about

xpost, rather

How about Modern Rock songs from this era that hit #1 on the Hot 100 but not on this chart?

- Vertical Horizon, "Everything You Want" (#5 on Modern Rock)
- Matchbox Twenty, "Bent" (#16 on Modern Rock)
- Creed, "With Arms Wide Open" (#2 on Modern Rock)

and even rap songs!

- Eminem, "Lose Yourself" (#14 on Modern Rock)
- Outkast, "Hey Ya!" (#16 on Modern Rock)

cut my life in2 pieces!!

i can't help you fix yourself, but at least i can say i tried!

Modern rock hits that didn't it #1 that year: Sour Girl Stone Temple Pilots

That was my #1 for 2000. I don't think I've ever come across anyone who thinks it's as great as I do.

I bought that album because of that song, which put me off STP for good, basically.

It was my first capitulation to STP. Like "hey, maybe these guys really aren't that bad."

big empty was on my first mixtape next to miss world and what else i don't know although there's a strong chance "mmmmm mmmmm mmmmm mmmmm" was involved

almost had a nervous breakdown once in the bathroom of an Outback Steakhouse while "Sour Girl" was playing on the PA.

sounds like the beginning of a Zoetrope short story

"Sour Girl" always sounded ELO-ish to me (the harmonies).

I admire "Beautiful Day" for somehow succeeding as a song despite there being almost nothing to it, as far as I can tell -- there's just this four-note sequence, it's a great four-note sequence, they play it, it sounds good when they play it, etc. Would have voted for it easy against the other contenders in this poll.

this list is so, so garbage

i'm voting for kryptonite

you bastard

oh wait i actually looked at the list, wow i'm not even sure i can bear carrying on into later years

i lived off of fuel's shimmer for a while but could not get into .... "Hemorrhage (In My Hands)"

This is an easy one for me - I voted for the Blink song last time and thus it has to be Fuel, despite the guy's haircut. It's like the last gasp of 1996 to me, though certainly much brighter and more punchily produced than most of the stuff from back then.

The rest is pretty sad. "Kryptonite" is catchy enough, but the lyric is pretty forced - and both this and their "Loser" were soured by hearing Serious Dudes practicing them on their acoustic guitars in dorm stairwells, at great length. "Otherside" is a snooze, "Californication" only comes to life for the "first-born unicorn" part (the video is some awful LOLs, not quite as jaw-dropping as the similarly-themed Creed one). "Last Resort" is almost unlistenable, and "Minority" is a sad empty shell of a band going through the motions. (I quite like "Warning" though!)

From the "big hits, not #1" category -

Adam's Song Blink 182 - "Remember the time that I spilled the cup / of apple juice / In the hall?"
With Arms Wide Open Creed - never again, please, never again
Ex-Girlfriend No Doubt - never got into these Return of Saturn singles, I know other people love them though.
Man Overboard Blink 182 - I like this one! Good use of their overlapping vocals, probably their only good "arena" type song.
Original Prankster Offspring - Possibly the biggest waste of time of any song on any of these lists, as i've argued enthusiastically here: WORST Single By Green Day or the Offspring
Right Now SR71 - Pretty good! I wish crappy 3rd-gen pop-punk had beat out nu-metal for dominance, these guys are all pretty annoying but you can at least tap your feet to the tunes. I get this mixed up with the first Sum-41 single "Makes No Difference," which is much better than this
Change Deftones - don't remember this
Pardon Me Incubus - really dopey, though maybe useful in freshman year as a filter for people who would claim to like "alternative" music (an increasingly poisoned term for me by this point), but if they liked this it was all over.
Miserable LIT - I think I liked this at the time but it's way too sluggish, especially put beside "own worst enemy" and "zip-loc"
Take A Picture Filter - I stan for this one - - once again, too long but it kinda hit me at that time, maybe cause I'd had my first romantic experience, on a vacation, unsure if I'd see the person again so the whole idea of a picture holding a memory together, while obviously not an original theme in pop music, came at the right place at the right time. I also love how the Oedipal rage of "Jurassitol" manages to sneak into this seemingly gentle, contemplative soft rock song. HEEYYYYYYYYYYYY DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR SON NOOOOWWWWW
Sour Girl Stone Temple Pilots - really did not like this, still threw it on an STP mix CD I made a few years ago just for the hell of it. It's pretty solidly done I guess. I preferred "No Way Out," the "hard" single off this, which bombed horribly IIRC.
Wonderful EverClear - really bad, I felt the drop-off between So Much For The Afterglow and this album the way most people felt the drop-off after Sparkle & Fade
Never Let You Go 3rd Eye Blind - I should listen to this again, I know ILX really likes it, at the time it struck me as way simpler and less involving than all their previous hits.
Rollin' Limp Bizkit - not their finest hour but I will not change the channel on this, i admit.
Judith Perfect Circle - I can't remember how this goes but i KNOW i hated it
Beautiful Day U2 - guilty pleasure once in a while, i think eephus sums it up well. At the time I was just hoping one of the airplanes in the video would run over the band.
Everything You Want Vertical Horizon - not offensive in any specific way but utterly not defensible, basically sums up the sound of an entire era of shitty rock radio piped through the college dining hall speakers, it's like the soundtrack of chicken tenders that have been sitting out too long. "You're A God" sucked too, though it seems to have been mercifully forgotten
Bad Touch Bloodhound Gang - great, would have possibly voted for this if it made #1
Matchbox Twenty, "Bent" - i liked this more than i was willing to let on at the time. As has been noted, this band seems to have been cut adrift by rock radio, and their "rockier" singles never really had much traction on pop radio, so it feels like a lot of their songs which I used to hear constantly have basically vanished - I mean "Push" has (mercifully) dropped off the planet, and "Real World" and "Long Day" (which were much better!) with it...

oh man "Judith" was the shit, fuiud

xpost to self wow, sorry, those lists are unreadable for starters and then once i run past one line per song it's just a mess

listening to judith now, wow this is absolutely not what i remember this sounding like - - - I mean, this just sounds like a Tool song and in my mind APC were this ballad-y crap side project.

oh YEAH this is the spear of longinus one! I liked this! I think I never knew this WAS A Perfect Circle!

I think I was thinking of "3 Libras."

Looking at the lists on here, I feel like in 2000 I somehow zoned out, was possibly in a coma for the year?

hahaha okay Dr Casino, you should really listen to "The Hollow", "Weak and Powerless", "Blue", "Pet" and "The Outsider" before calling all of APC crappy balladry

man, these threads get so many posts

this is the first year i can distinctly remember hearing all these all the time/seeing them on MTV - i was 10/11. have fond memories of all of them but probably only would still admit to liking the blink or maybe "kryptonite"

maybe "kryptonite"

o_O

to be fair casino just DID admit that his idea of a perfect circle as a crappy ballad band was wrong

man i'm gonna get real sad when everyone hates on the 2001 poll. i think that year was definitely the pinnacle/nadir of the era, and it was the year i listened to HFS for hours and hours every day.

Billie Joe Armstrong commented that this was the point in which their song writing became slightly more politically based. The lyrics "I pledge allegiance to the under world, one nation under dog..." were taken from the American Pledge of Allegiance but "twisted upside down a bit."

dreadful.

"3 Libras" is a great song... just thought I'd throw that out there, too. "Judith" has aged well after being played to death at the time.

did I say upthread that the first two APC albums are fucking great? because if so I will still say it again and again

Looking at the lists on here, I feel like in 2000 I somehow zoned out, was possibly in a coma for the year?

What's weird is how well I recognize so many of these despite how much I tuned out of pop culture in this time (actually more in 98-99). Clearly I was less tuned out than I thought. 2001 was when I was smoking enough pot that it seemed like a great idea to try to fully embrace this stuff.

it's like the soundtrack of chicken tenders that have been sitting out too long

Kudos to Doc Casino for this, should be thread subtitle for the next few if not all of these polls

Ha, "Never Let You Go" only went #1 in Canada! Had no idea!

(And yeah, that Hot 100 thing makes sense: I was wondering about the absence of Creed and Matchbox 20.)

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Change Deftones

Doctor Casino should listen to this, too

i have decided that there is no reason i cant just vote for blink 182 again given the rest of this list

merican idiot is gr8

wtf

"wake me up when september ends" is one of the worst songs of all time

^^^^^^^^^

i refer once again to the "quality of green day songs directly linked to bpm" rule

actually, I just listened to that blink song, and while I don't really care about it, I can't deny that if it had come out the year DOOKIE came out I'd probably remember it with similar fondness.

yeah but American Idiot has McCartney-esque melodies, guys

xp, the rule is ironclad & hilariously otm

Still like "Change".

I was an announcer at a modern rock station on the weekends during this time and remember all of these songs not very fondly at all. It's what made me go, you know? fuckit for the next dozen years and just listen to 80s punk bands all the time.

― pplains, Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:20 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

i was 15 at the time and came to the same conclusion

im googling band photos of 3 doors down now and its very rewarding

3 Doors Down now does music for Army commercials they play before movie previews.

I thought that was Kid Rock?

no it was Godsmack

It's weird to hear a lot of these 99/00 songs in (semi-)high fidelity on Spotify. I never owned the CDs so it was either over the radio or 128 kbps horrible Napster mp3s. The pop punk stuff sounds a lot better.

"All the Small Things" in particular is improved when the guitars don't sound like digital swooshing.

filter's "take a picture" is a great song, i stan for that too

BTW, to what extent do we think "Hemorrhage (In My Hands)" is intended to be treated as a tribute to "Love Lies Bleeding" by Elton John, and how much is it just stealing a good line and doing something completely different with it and hoping nobody notices?

they were stealing a terrible title that's for sure

the only other Fuel song I remember seemed to lift its lyrics directly from Collective Soul's "Heavy"

always forget that "change" was sort of a hit which is weird because i feel like it basically doesn't have a chorus (and that's why it rules)

or maybe less "doesn't have a chorus" and more that the structure of it is kind of fundamentally weird

also the first two apc albums have aged better than all of the tool material

big surprise i know

these lists are making me realize just how wrong that whole 'Nirvana saved us from Hair Metal' narrative was...

I mean in hindsight, really turns out that the post-Nirvana Alternative Boom and its rapid decline through Pop Punk/Post-Grunge/NuMetal was much more unlistenable and embarrassing than 80s Pop Metal ever was, and Pop Metal - especially at its most mainstream - produced much more likeable hits than Post-Nu-Grunge-terna-pop did

"Every Rose Has Its Thorn" is really bad tho

Leppard/GnR/Crue/Jovi/etc vs Blink/Matchbox/Staind/PapaR/Creed/Bizkit

like, not a huge fan of the former but imo it's not even a contest

(going more by pre/post-Nirvana rock radio formats/eras than pure genre distinctions)

Yeah, although to be fair the first list would need to have more Ratt and Great White. I mean, at its best, alt-rock was a really wild forest of a radio format, and there were a lot of great, weird-around-the-edges records that I got exposed to that I never would have otherwise. Even in the worst years for the #1s there was a lot of fun stuff making up the radio landscape - - but I'm sure I've given this exact spiel in like eight threads now....

Speaking now about 2000 only, when I'd agree that the shine was pretty much off the whole project, there's still some decent fun radio rock type stuff in circulation. Just remembered American Hi-Fi "Flavor of the Weak" (#5 on Modern Rock) - that's a good one! And, jeez, "Teenage Dirtbag"!

well, ratt had Way Cool Jr. and that one that strippers always dance to.

These are straw-strippers, btw. Haven't been to a titty bar in like, 10 years.

Additional "decent" to "good" rock radio songs in 2000:

Foo Fighters - Breakout
The Dandy Warhols -Bohemian Like You
311 - Flowing (lol i know but this was their catchy fun one!)
Pushmonkey - Handslide
RATM - Testify & Sleep Now In The Fire (album came out 99)
Pearl Jam - Nothing As It Seems
Smashing Pumpkins - Everlasting Gaze (actually this was pretty irritating but I stuck by it)
VAST - Free

...okay, so none of those are exactly standout classics. But there was slightly more to tune in for than Papa Roach.

"Nothing As It Seems" was not decent

yeah that single killed my interest in PJ for the next six years

That album killed my interest in PJ more or less permanently, but I was lured in by that single! Somewhere I have a wordy defense written in 2001 or 2002, I should try and find that...

there are awesome songs on that record.

"insignificance" iirc

brad otm, there are good songs on Binaural, just not the singles

these lists are making me realize just how wrong that whole 'Nirvana saved us from Hair Metal' narrative was...

I dunno, I think there's a reasonable case that they saved us for a three or four year span!

hm, I think anything good around that time had already existed for a while (late 80s/early 90s alt/indie/college rock could be great), but any bands that actually owed their existence or sound to Grunge, or to the great 90s punk crossover, were pretty much universally awful. and the more quality acts on the margins that maybe enjoyed a hit were more likely coming from some other indie scene and likely would have had a small following anyways. just trying to think of anything good Nirvana or PJ did for music. their sonic influence was among some of the worst ever

the Nirvana meme is wrong because there was plenty of great pop and R&B and hip-hop on the charts, none of which had fuck-all to do with hair metal.

so what exactly did they save us from?

Jesus Jones

yeah, hip hop, R&B, rave, etc were the real stories of the 90s imo

god guys do we have to talk about the validity of the nirvana narrative even on a thread about the year 2000?

well of course: we thought in 2000 that our computers would explode and leave us with our old Firehouse tapes.

xp well I see these lists and I guess I blame the paradigm/format that unleashed all this stuff on us on the Nirvana narrative

Way tempted to do a Change vs. Judith poll

Judging by these polls, I think the Modern Rock #1 shit parade started in '97

LimbsKing, may I suggest a short breather after the 2000 poll, maybe punctuated by something like a "worst Modern Rock #1 to get 0 votes in any of these polls" type poll?

I don't know if ILX Blink 182 love is funny or endearing in a "he ain't heavy, he's my brother" sort of way

Same goes with Green Day. They had some good songs on Dookie and a couple from another early album but that's about it

I actually really like the parent album for the Green Day single here, but that's one of the weaker songs on it. Fuel wins this one, then, by default.

The Dandy Warhols - Bohemian Like You

still love this song. every time i hear it (which is basically like never) i am made happy.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

DESTROY THEM ALL.

I actually really like the parent album for the Green Day single here, but that's one of the weaker songs on it. Fuel wins this one, then, by default.

― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, June 2, 2012 1:42 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

100% otm

It felt a little sad to vote for Fuel.

Wow Otherside is so much better than that overwrought Shimmer rewrite

(hey everybody I just got out of work and here's some opinions 4 u!!!)

I listened to "Otherside" in the past week because of this poll and I can't even remember how it goes.

(I'm not really expressing great passion about "Hemorrhage", to be clear.)

how long how long must I slide

separate my thiiiiiighs
for so long
i do believe it's haaaaaair
duh duh duh udh duh duh duh frazzle

<3 that snog

:D

I like Blood Sugar Sex Magik if it makes things any better?

Maybe I just have a block with processing the RHCP as gothy mopers?

It's kind of funny that everyone who voted for Fuel seemed to do it as a 'by default' sort of deal. Maybe I should have just abstained.

I actually looked up an interview with Blink 182 to see if they pronounce "things" like that when they talk.

(They do.)

it's cool sund4r. The whole Californication album has always seemed to me like RHCP's attempt to write a whole album's worth of songs like Soul to Squeeze, which is my favorite song of theirs. I don't think they get as horrifically bland as everyone here is implying until By the Way

I also think ILX underrates the singles from One Hot Minute and am tempted to check if that album is on Spotify.

californication's a good record. but i've always hated funk RHCP.

I actually feel a little bad that all I've done here is post dismissive opinions without thinking critically about anything. Ten years ago, I hated it when people in their 30s did that about stuff I liked. So it's more interesting to hear about why people like these songs. I think I'd love to hear a defence of "Kryptonite".

lol not touching that one. i will say this:

3 Doors Down now does music for Army commercials they play before movie previews.

― LimbsKing, Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:06 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i do actually think 3DD's recent context as spokesband for the Army works really well for "Not My Time"

Wow Otherside is so much better than that overwrought Shimmer rewrite

― thillrer (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, June 3, 2012 1:24 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

calling something a rewrite because it's the same band is lame, they don't really sound alike at all.

I also think ILX underrates the singles from One Hot Minute and am tempted to check if that album is on Spotify.

"Aeroplane" is my favorite of their "fast" ones.

yeah "Aeroplane" is secretly one of their best post-BSSM singles. "Warped" isn't bad too. it's just "My Friends" (and probably the rest of the album) that gives that era of the band such a stench.

calling something a rewrite because it's the same band is lame, they don't really sound alike at all.

that prechorus "too far away" is almost a direct quote from the chorus in Shimmer("too far away/for me to hold"); not the same melody, but def the same accents...which is not the same thing as a 're-write', but is some pretty bald recyclage. Of course it could also be intentionally self-referential (the immediately preceding lyrics are "don't you remember anything I said when I said") Still: lame.

That said, re-listening to this song now, it is a bit better than I remember, though I still like "Otherside" more.

Also I listened to "Parallel Universe", the only song from the first four on Californication that I didn't remember, and it was dope. That album might've aged better than I even thought.

"Aeroplane" is the worst fucking song, come on now

looking at the one hot minute tracklisting i seem to have excised most of it from my memory. 'aeroplane' is alright, 'my friends' is p dire, i vaguely remember 'walkabout' being terrible, and hey 'pea' is um some kind of charming. the rest, i've got nothing.

that prechorus "too far away" is almost a direct quote from the chorus in Shimmer("too far away/for me to hold");

To be fair, 1) he's saying "Don't fall away" and 2) the refrain's lyric is lifted straight from Bernie Taupin, so if you want to go after them for laziness, there's a pretty strong angle right there.

lol my mistake.

"Aeroplane" is the worst fucking song, come on now

you're the worst fucking song, come on now

alfred likes pleasure spiked with pain

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

lol

Daddy needs his medicine.

Green Day got their wish.

lol

at least theres no godsmack.

poor green day, i've never heard that 3 doors down song but my prediction is that it's worse than 'minority'.

so we have ten lurking papa roach fans who have, ten years on, finally made an impact on ilm.

shockingly, the 3DD song is NOT worse than "Minority" (they really should have tied tho)

I wish I knew what the story was behind using the line "I saw the world float to the dark side of the moon" twice.

Cannibalizing the mid-70s was apparently a "thing" around this time

Also: I tend to link Enema of the State in my head with some really awful times during my freshman year in college. I don't think I've ever forgiven Blink-182. (Though I confess to liking "Adam's Song")

please tell blink that it's not their fault

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