Best 21st Century Release on RS's 500 Greatest Albums of All-Time

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From the recently revised list:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/500-greatest-albums-of-all-time-20120531

(Not including reissues, compilations, etc.)

Poll Results

OptionVotes
361. OutKast - Stankonia 12
336. Radiohead - In Rainbows 10
393. M.I.A. - Kala 10
67. Radiohead - Kid A 10
481. D'Angelo - Voodoo 8
385. Bob Dylan - Love and Theft 7
395. LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver 7
252. Jay-Z - The Blueprint 6
493. Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot 5
199. Strokes - Is This It 4
151. Arcade Fire - Funeral 4
451. Amy Winehouse - Back to Black 2
390. White Stripes - Elephant 2
497. White Stripes - White Blood Cells 2
320. Radiohead - Amnesiac 2
244. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP 2
466. Coldplay - A Rush of Blood to the Head 1
436. Beck - Sea Change 1
474. Manu Chao - Proxima Estacion: Esperanza 1
430. Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend 1
427. Peter Wolf - Sleepless 1
204. Bob Dylan - Modern Times 1
280. U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind 1
298. Kanye West - The College Dropout 1
225. Green Day - American Idiot 1
118. Kanye West - Late Registration 0
494. MGMT - Oracular Spectacular 0
457. My Morning Jacket - Z 0
437. Lil Wayne - Tha Carter III 0
431. PJ Harvey - Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea 0
424. Bruce Springsteen - The Rising 0
371. Arctic Monkeys - Whatever You Say I Am, That's What I'm Not 0
349. Jay-Z - The Black Album 0
353. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy 0


Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Saturday, 16 June 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

1. voodoo
2. college dropout
3. is this it
4. blueprint
5. stankonia
6. vampire weekend
7. late registration
8. sound of silver
9. whatever you say i am
10. marshall mathers lp

lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 16 June 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

1. back to black
2. the blueprint
3. voodoo
4. the college dropout
5. late registration
6. stories from the city, stories from the sea
7. stankonia
8. tha carter iii
9. the marshall mathers lp
10. kala

not really a concrete order. this isn't a very inspiring list

star-spangled david banner (lex pretend), Saturday, 16 June 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

I feel like most of these don't deserve to be above #500, but whatever.

Voodoo or Elephant or maybe Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (even though I stopped listening to it years ago).

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 16 June 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

went voodoo over is this it and blueprint

Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 16 June 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

Sound Of Silver just ahead of Voodoo.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 16 June 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

i LIKE kala and i can't fathom anyone including it in a GOAT list

stories from the city remains PJH's worst album of the 21st century and indeed her career

star-spangled david banner (lex pretend), Saturday, 16 June 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

Ended up choosing Elephant over Voodoo because D'Angelo is getting plenty of love here. Elephant probably needs my help.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 16 June 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

i LIKE kala and i can't fathom anyone including it in a GOAT list

honestly i'm surprised that M.I.A. wasn't higher

lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 16 June 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

what's the most indefensible placement here?

in rainbows, right?

lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 16 June 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

Voodoo

old people are made of poop (Eric H.), Saturday, 16 June 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

what's the most indefensible placement here?

427. Peter Wolf - Sleepless

Nobody gives a shit about what Peter Wolf is doing in the 21st century.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 16 June 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

xpost meaning I voted Voodoo, not it's the most indefensible placing. That would be everything above that isn't better than Erykah Badu's entire post-Y2K output (i.e. all but two or three of those albums).

old people are made of poop (Eric H.), Saturday, 16 June 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

stankonia

he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

All the amazing records of the 21st century and I'm stuck trying to choose between Amnesiac and Kala? Sheesh.

a cheesecake made of all their eyes (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

What the fuck planet is Late Registration better than College Dropout

la musica de harry frogbs (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

The Marshall Mathers LP

la musica de harry frogbs (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

Nobody gives a shit about what Peter Wolf is doing in the 21st century.

― Johnny Fever, Saturday, June 16, 2012 2:56 PM (9 minutes ago) BookmarkNobody gives a shit about what Peter Wolf is doing in the 21st century.

i actually have no idea who peter wolf is

lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

For a second I got excited and thought that might be Patrick Wolf. No such luck.

a cheesecake made of all their eyes (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

What the fuck planet is Late Registration better than College Dropout

― la musica de harry frogbs (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, June 16, 2012 3:05 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

yeah this is stupid, but at least they had enough sense to rate 'blueprint' over 'black album'

lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

i actually have no idea who peter wolf is

He sang in the J Geils Band and had a solo hit in the 80s with "Come As You Are".

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

To say Arcade Fire made one of the 200 Greatest Albums of all Time is some fuckery I'd expect from like Tiny Mix Tapes

la musica de harry frogbs (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

He sang in the J Geils Band and had a solo hit in the 80s with "Come As You Are".

― Johnny Fever, Saturday, June 16, 2012 3:08 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

this isn't helping

lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

lol whiney

lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

this isn't helping

That's my point. No one cares what Peter Wolf is doing in the 21st century.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

lol I just looked up Sleepless and there's a song on there called "Hey Jordan".

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

That Peter Wolf album is really good. Would be in my top 10 of things on this list.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

sick of all these wolf bands

la musica de harry frogbs (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

What the fuck planet is Late Registration better than College Dropout

― la musica de harry frogbs (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, June 16, 2012 2:05 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

can only take this as a defense of the 5-star review they dropped on it

een, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link

i think i'm voting for Marshall Mathers

een, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:38 (twelve years ago) link

^yep

la musica de harry frogbs (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link

i don't do acid rap but i rap on acid

la musica de harry frogbs (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link

college dropout but i am surprised at the amount of stuff here i'm ok with

call all destroyer, Saturday, 16 June 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

Kala

to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Sunday, 17 June 2012 01:03 (twelve years ago) link

What the fuck planet is Late Registration better than College Dropout

― la musica de harry frogbs (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, June 16, 2012 3:05 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

i live there

bronytheus (some dude), Sunday, 17 June 2012 01:08 (twelve years ago) link

a lonely planet

me so fat (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 17 June 2012 01:10 (twelve years ago) link

anyway, voodoo. but i didnt really look at the list very closely.

me so fat (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 17 June 2012 01:11 (twelve years ago) link

1. blueprint
2. late registration
3. kid a
4. is this it
5. college dropout
6. voodoo
7. mmlp
8. stankonia
9. black album
10. a rush of blood to the head

bronytheus (some dude), Sunday, 17 June 2012 01:13 (twelve years ago) link

To say Arcade Fire made one of the 200 Greatest Albums of all Time is some fuckery I'd expect from like Rolling Stone

bronytheus (some dude), Sunday, 17 June 2012 01:14 (twelve years ago) link

no skrillex no credibility

me so fat (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 17 June 2012 01:16 (twelve years ago) link

Love and Theft

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 17 June 2012 01:17 (twelve years ago) link

god I might have to say Love and Theft over Kala and The Blueprint. It's a well-spent uninvolving 50 min for a Sat evening

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 June 2012 01:19 (twelve years ago) link

honestly the only two that really give me a huh? are mgmt and arctic monkeys. everything else is the expected big-name tokenism, "serious" arena rock, or old people.

me so fat (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 17 June 2012 01:19 (twelve years ago) link

if the second Vampire Weekend or Arctic Monkeys albums were on the list I'd give'em a second listen

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 June 2012 01:20 (twelve years ago) link

Stankonia

windjammer voyage (blank), Sunday, 17 June 2012 01:30 (twelve years ago) link

Love and Theft gets my vote.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 17 June 2012 01:36 (twelve years ago) link

1 - back to black
2 - marshall mathers LP
3 - blueprint
4 - kid a
5 - funeral
6 - yankee hotel foxtrot
7 - college dropout
8 - stankonia
9 - sound of silver
10 - vampire weekend

cissymanwhore (k3vin k.), Sunday, 17 June 2012 01:40 (twelve years ago) link

don't really care about any of these

recordbreaking transfer to Lucknow FC (seandalai), Sunday, 17 June 2012 01:45 (twelve years ago) link

Funeral and fuck all you haters!

Bee OK, Sunday, 17 June 2012 02:00 (twelve years ago) link

the mgmt is the only one that makes me go 'wait they revised this and mgmt is still on there?'

balls, Sunday, 17 June 2012 02:02 (twelve years ago) link

voted love and theft

balls, Sunday, 17 June 2012 02:03 (twelve years ago) link

stankonia

― he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison),

the hat's filthy lesson (sic), Sunday, 17 June 2012 02:18 (twelve years ago) link

stankonia

― he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison),

― the hat's filthy lesson (sic),

mississippi joan hart (crüt), Sunday, 17 June 2012 03:18 (twelve years ago) link

Suburbs or Neon Bible >>>>>>>> Funeral

Still not sure I'd put any of them on a list of only 500.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 17 June 2012 03:18 (twelve years ago) link

what's the most indefensible placement here?

in rainbows, right?

Why's that indefensible? It may be my favourite Radiohead (and my favourite from this list).

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 17 June 2012 03:21 (twelve years ago) link

Suburbs finally convinced me that I'm a Funeral fan rather than an Arcade Fire one, so I wholly approve of its presence here.

to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Sunday, 17 June 2012 03:24 (twelve years ago) link

lulu

buzza, Sunday, 17 June 2012 03:25 (twelve years ago) link

Also, MGMT? Coldplay? Amy Winehouse? Those don't even make sense in the way that things I hate on here but whose presence I at least understand (which is to say, Eminem) make sense.

to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Sunday, 17 June 2012 03:27 (twelve years ago) link

amy winehouse makes perfect sense to me. rolling stone-catnip

Mordy, Sunday, 17 June 2012 03:29 (twelve years ago) link

winehouse was an angel, fuck yall

cissymanwhore (k3vin k.), Sunday, 17 June 2012 03:31 (twelve years ago) link

list needs the first libertines album

windjammer voyage (blank), Sunday, 17 June 2012 03:31 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I get the Winehouse album being included. I'd be surprised if it hadn't been.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 17 June 2012 03:31 (twelve years ago) link

missing Savane

Mordy, Sunday, 17 June 2012 03:32 (twelve years ago) link

Voted Stankonia 1) for hometown pride and 2) one time i was in Sweden at a small house party with some teenagers and i put on "Ms. Jackson" and they knew all the words and sang along. It was a really cool moment!

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 17 June 2012 03:58 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2azX9p5cxg

mississippi joan hart (crüt), Sunday, 17 June 2012 04:01 (twelve years ago) link

1 - back to black
2 - marshall mathers LP
3 - blueprint
4 - kid a
5 - funeral
6 - yankee hotel foxtrot
7 - college dropout
8 - stankonia
9 - sound of silver
10 - vampire weekend

― cissymanwhore (k3vin k.), Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

listen to voodoo

lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 17 June 2012 04:20 (twelve years ago) link

mississippi joan hart (crüt)

So glad this phrase didn't go to waste!

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 17 June 2012 04:26 (twelve years ago) link

glad to see more stankonia votes

windjammer voyage (blank), Sunday, 17 June 2012 04:28 (twelve years ago) link

in retrospect i shouldn't have ranked blueprint over stankonia

lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 17 June 2012 04:29 (twelve years ago) link

xxxp yeah i have but it was in the car on a long trip i think, i don't think that was the best setting for him

cissymanwhore (k3vin k.), Sunday, 17 June 2012 04:37 (twelve years ago) link

i can't rank b2b over college dropout or stankonia but it's certainly the 3rd best album here

call all destroyer, Sunday, 17 June 2012 05:00 (twelve years ago) link

voodoo vs. love and theft

which, it's weird to consider those records at the same time

but voodoo, anyway

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Sunday, 17 June 2012 05:50 (twelve years ago) link

in retrospect i shouldn't have ranked blueprint over stankonia

― lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Sunday, June 17, 2012 4:29 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no you absolutely should have done

god i hate the arctic monkeys

star-spangled david banner (lex pretend), Sunday, 17 June 2012 09:43 (twelve years ago) link

what's the most indefensible placement here?

Struggling to get my head around '204. Bob Dylan - Modern Times' to be honest.

1. In Rainbows
2. College Dropout
3. Stories from the City
4. Blueprint
5. Kid A

Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 17 June 2012 10:12 (twelve years ago) link

what's the most indefensible placement here?

in rainbows, right?

― lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Saturday, June 16, 2012 2:51 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

definitely My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy - nobody's even mentioned it yet!

bronytheus (some dude), Sunday, 17 June 2012 10:26 (twelve years ago) link

voodoo
back to black
stankonia
blueprint
college dropout
sound of silver
vampire weekend
kid a
white blood cells
carter iii

fanute gingrich (The Reverend), Sunday, 17 June 2012 10:41 (twelve years ago) link

i'd like to throw american idiot into the "most indefensible" consideration

fanute gingrich (The Reverend), Sunday, 17 June 2012 10:43 (twelve years ago) link

427. Peter Wolf - Sleepless

LOL/ i guess boz scaggs and billy joel didn't make albums this century

(REAL NAME) (m coleman), Sunday, 17 June 2012 11:46 (twelve years ago) link

american idiot makes perfect sense on an rs list though

me so fat (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 17 June 2012 12:15 (twelve years ago) link

yeah there's at least a narrative behind 'american idiot' that makes it understandable why it would show up here

lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 17 June 2012 13:26 (twelve years ago) link

Guys...MGMT...c'mon.

to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Sunday, 17 June 2012 13:26 (twelve years ago) link

Why's that indefensible? It may be my favourite Radiohead (and my favourite from this list).

To try to explain, I think In Rainbows is where the different things that Radiohead does come together best. Increasingly, I'd sooner listen to 90s/early 00s IDM than pull out Kid A and would rather put on Four Tet or Burial than King of Limbs but on In Rainbows, I think they integrate their electronic and compositional interests into well-written songs that could not be by anyone else. The way they make quintuple metre work on "15 Step" is great. Moreover, the production is gorgeous, with the guitars sounding as clear and detailed as I always want electric guitars to sound.

Anyway, Voodoo is sounding pretty good so far.

Never understood the critical adoration for My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. The production is almost painful to listen to.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 17 June 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

Ha for a min I was with WCC and thinking "kala vs amnesiac"

Then I remembered that I was boring and ignorant and loved the fuck out of Kid A

robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 17 June 2012 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

Sund4r OTM RE In Rainbows. I proudly voted for it.

Might give Voodoo a listen what with all the props it's getting.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 17 June 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

Is the Manu Chao any good? (it's better than Voodoo lol)

robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 17 June 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

It's not bad, but I much prefer Clandestino.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 17 June 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

Sund4r OTM RE In Rainbows.

Seconded, also OTM about the production on MBDTF.

Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 17 June 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

kid a over sound of silver, l&t and late registration

Icky Thump, Arular, SB/TLB and Neon Bible would have made my short list too if they were the representations of choice here

da croupier, Sunday, 17 June 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

427. Peter Wolf - Sleepless

Nobody gives a shit about what Peter Wolf is doing in the 21st century.

jann s wenner does, and that's all that matters

da croupier, Sunday, 17 June 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

shocked tbh that goddess in the doorway or (more plausibly) a bigger bang aren't up there

balls, Sunday, 17 June 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

yeah iirc wenner only gave wolf four stars

da croupier, Sunday, 17 June 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

also no kings of leon (who rs went nuts for in their best of decode iirc), no bon iver, no shins, no bright eyes, no tvotr, no ryan adams, no yeah yeah yeahs - all very much rs wheelhouse (no complaints on most of these from me). no daft punk, luomo, avalanches, etc either but this is no surprise.

balls, Sunday, 17 June 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

best of decade rather

balls, Sunday, 17 June 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

i'm surprised no yeah yeah yeahs

Mordy, Sunday, 17 June 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

Sound of Silver over In Rainbows, Stankonia, Voodoo, Blueprint, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, and Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 17 June 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

2nd MGMT album is way better than the 1st imo

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 17 June 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

modern times is great fuck tha haters

one dis leads to another (ian), Sunday, 17 June 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

no Daft punk gtfo

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

this whole Kala being better than Arular thing isn't going to go away is it?

piscesx, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

sayin

fanute gingrich (The Reverend), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

american idiot makes perfect sense on an rs list though

― me so fat (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, June 17, 2012 5:15 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah there's at least a narrative behind 'american idiot' that makes it understandable why it would show up here

― lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Sunday, June 17, 2012 6:26 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

iirc it as "most indefensible", not "most inexplicable"

fanute gingrich (The Reverend), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

it was*

fanute gingrich (The Reverend), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

Arular is the only MIA album I listen to much.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

this whole Kala being better than Arular thing isn't going to go away is it?

― piscesx, Sunday, June 17, 2012 4:32 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

belongs in the latepassapedia even though there's no excuse

la musica de harry frogbs (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

American Idiot is a great classic-style anthemic rock album imo. "Jesus of Suburbia" is all-time. I think American Idiot at #225 is more defensible than e.g. saying Bob Dylan made 10 of the 500 greatest albums of all time or ranking the first Led Zeppelin album as their best.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 17 June 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

modern times is great fuck tha haters

^^ this.

Going with Kala, though.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Sunday, 17 June 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link

Definitely Amnesiac.

Turangalila, Monday, 18 June 2012 01:09 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

Voted In Rainbows in the absence of any Mew.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 00:53 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 28 June 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

336. Radiohead - In Rainbows 10
67. Radiohead - Kid A 10
320. Radiohead - Amnesiac 2
244. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP 2

This is some shameful shit

some dude nights (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 28 June 2012 02:50 (twelve years ago) link

That's like insisting Royal Tennenbaums is a better movie than Robocop. Get the fuck out of here with that

some dude nights (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 28 June 2012 02:51 (twelve years ago) link

I did not vote or read most of this thread, but can I just say that, as an OutKast fan who bought every album from ATLiens forward on its respective release date, Stankonia was a noticeable step down and a very uneven, half-failure of an album?

Because it was not a very good album, considering what they had done up until that point.

Austin, Thursday, 28 June 2012 03:02 (twelve years ago) link

**going back to read entire thread now**

Austin, Thursday, 28 June 2012 03:02 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i didn't hear all their 90s albums til later but Stankonia is def wak compared to those

goonrise zingdom (some dude), Thursday, 28 June 2012 03:08 (twelve years ago) link

Post-reading the whole thing. . .

As a hip hop head in rehab, I cringe that the hip hop records from the last decade (or so) are even considered alongside most of the music on this list.

Because it's gotten really, really bad in those years. And to think that some of the albums mentioned here are among the "best" the genre has to offer (not implying they aren't — many are actually rather good) should be a signpost that things are not well in the hip hop sphere.

Austin, Thursday, 28 June 2012 03:16 (twelve years ago) link

i dont have the hip hop bona fides of some of you guys but i really, strongly disagree w/you re: stankonia

call all destroyer, Thursday, 28 June 2012 03:18 (twelve years ago) link

I'm a goon and Stankonia is the best Outkast album.

some dude nights (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 28 June 2012 03:20 (twelve years ago) link

stankonia is probably not the best outkast album but you could very easily make an argument that it is. i don't think it's a REAL HEADS KNOW THE DEAL thing. it's not like people who say that the black album (or the fucking grey album) is the best jay-z album.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 28 June 2012 03:24 (twelve years ago) link

people liking 'in rainbows' this much is absolutely nuts

J0rdan S., Thursday, 28 June 2012 03:25 (twelve years ago) link

i mean aquemini would give it a run for its money but "uneven" is completely baffling, like please let me know the bad songs on stankonia because i have not heard them.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 28 June 2012 03:29 (twelve years ago) link

i missed this thread but i prob would have gone for the old fart love and theft vote.

judy rae jetson (get bent), Thursday, 28 June 2012 03:44 (twelve years ago) link

people liking 'in rainbows' this much is absolutely nuts

I was kind of torn between a few albums on the list, so I just asked myself which of them sounded most appealing to me at the moment.

Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Thursday, 28 June 2012 03:55 (twelve years ago) link

kanye only getting one total vote in this poll is o_O

J0rdan S., Thursday, 28 June 2012 03:57 (twelve years ago) link

considered voting for late registration, but had to go with...

I'm a goon and Stankonia is the best Outkast album.

― some dude nights (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:20 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i am not a good, and whiney otm

contenderizer, Thursday, 28 June 2012 04:02 (twelve years ago) link

Okay, so, I'm not among those of the "REAL" heads faction. I was just a kid who was there and was a big fan and saved up my lawn mowing earnings for weeks in advance of ATLiens and Aquemini.

The material on those two albums was not the average "street smart" hip hop fare. Lyrically, I hadn't learned that much from words in since Chuck D. And they had hints of sheer musical brilliance. ATLiens in particular was right on par with the other "big" album of 1996 (Endtroducing). The biggest revelation was that both albums were still using samples, but in such a new way that it almost seems to cheapen both ends by calling it "a sample" (the before and after, for instance).

To be over the top and dramatic, it actually fucking felt like musical revolution for me.

Stankonia was just not as perfected (and yet, still somehow more produced?), not nearly as smart ('Snappin and Trappin', 'Gangsta Shit' and letting B-Real air out his "beef" with a journalist during his cameo are just bad ideas that perpetuate all the negative stereotypes about hip hop) and it poorly catered to the "southern" demographic ('I'll Call Before I Come' and the embarrassing 'We Luv Deez Hoez' were pretty much the antithesis of why I liked OutKast in the first place).

There are some very good songs on it though. Like I said, it's a half-failure.

Austin, Thursday, 28 June 2012 04:08 (twelve years ago) link

naw

contenderizer, Thursday, 28 June 2012 04:11 (twelve years ago) link

"i am not a good"

lol @ me

contenderizer, Thursday, 28 June 2012 04:12 (twelve years ago) link

that post is borderline slander

J0rdan S., Thursday, 28 June 2012 04:13 (twelve years ago) link

the other "big" album of 1996 (Endtroducing)

http://www.fjccentral.info/images/smilies/rotfl.gif

some dude nights (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 28 June 2012 04:13 (twelve years ago) link

somebody needs to repeat not the average "street smart" hip hop fare about 200 times

contenderizer, Thursday, 28 June 2012 04:14 (twelve years ago) link

somebody needs to repeat it poorly catered to the "southern" demographic about 200 times

some dude nights (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 28 June 2012 04:15 (twelve years ago) link

my god the ILM kanye bubble burst hard

een, Thursday, 28 June 2012 04:19 (twelve years ago) link

Somebody needs to explain to me what the hell any of you are talking about.

Clearly smarter than me.

Dumb it down for a n00b.

Please?

Austin, Thursday, 28 June 2012 04:25 (twelve years ago) link

Phrases like "street smart" and "the southern demographic" are reductive and DJ Shadow is for herbs

some dude nights (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 28 June 2012 04:37 (twelve years ago) link

Okay, someone who actually wants a discussion, please explain.

Austin, Thursday, 28 June 2012 05:09 (twelve years ago) link

Lol

can you believe they put a man otm (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 28 June 2012 05:23 (twelve years ago) link

discuss away

windjammer voyage (blank), Thursday, 28 June 2012 05:23 (twelve years ago) link

The material on those two albums was not the average "street smart" hip hop fare.

go ahead

windjammer voyage (blank), Thursday, 28 June 2012 05:25 (twelve years ago) link

For comparison, Nas released his second album (It Was Written) and Jay-Z released his first album (Reasonable Doubt) in the same year as ATLiens.

For someone who was previously into De la Soul, Public Enemy and Pete Rock + CL Smooth, it was a no-brainer who the heir to that throne was.

Austin, Thursday, 28 June 2012 05:55 (twelve years ago) link

are you trying to do something or

windjammer voyage (blank), Thursday, 28 June 2012 06:02 (twelve years ago) link

Just trying to defend myself because the onslaught of smart alec responses makes me feel I need to.

Austin, Thursday, 28 June 2012 06:05 (twelve years ago) link

For comparison, Nas released his second album (It Was Written) and Jay-Z released his first album (Reasonable Doubt) in the same year as ATLiens.

posting like this like you're educating anybody comes off really badly fyi

goonrise zingdom (some dude), Thursday, 28 June 2012 10:17 (twelve years ago) link


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