A World of Constant Strangers: The Neil Young Results Thread

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil76.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

Finally ready to go...Thanks again for the great response. There were 66 ballots in all, and 259 songs/covers drew votes. Four of us submitted a list of favourite album covers, so I’ll quickly do those first. Three were mentioned more than once: On the Beach (4 votes), Time Fades Away (4 votes), and After the Gold Rush (2 votes).

http://phildellio.tripod.com/beach.jpg http://phildellio.tripod.com/fades.jpg http://phildellio.tripod.com/gold.jpg

Arc, Comes a Time, Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere, Hawks & Doves, Journey Through the Past, Lucky Thirteen, Ragged Glory, Mirror Ball, Tonight’s the Night, Trans, Weld, and Zuma were all mentioned once.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

omg is "SCENERY" #1????

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

Hyped

Get wolves (DL), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

First poll I've voted in for a while...keen!

recordbreaking transfer to Lucknow FC (seandalai), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

Predict "Old King" to win btw.

recordbreaking transfer to Lucknow FC (seandalai), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

I'll count down from #75 to #51 today, with about three or four minutes between posts. There's been so much Neil talk on the voting and other Neil threads, hopefully people will still have stuff to say.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil75.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

I voted for it.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

aw, decent song, but i'm guessing this means my favorite bluenotes track won't make the cut, as I can't imagine two bluenotes tracks making the cut

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

Most of the images I picked connect fairly obviously to the song; with some, like the one above, I just liked the picture.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

Meant to say that I voted for two other album covers, but those are my three favourite for sure. They get the music inside so right.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil74.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

ha, i remember reading about ordinary people way back in the 90s before i heard it -- can't remember where now, but it was this ridiculous, over the top praise, like "neil young has written the greatest song of the 1980s"! and then it was impossible to find. think i finally heard it on the "archives be damned" bootleg thing.
i'm actually excited about the prospect of a bluenotes live archives release.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

Voted for Ordinary People. Lyrically the sum of the parts exceeds the whole but I like its torrential relentlessness. Would have had more impact in the 80s, given the arc of his career, Reagan, Iacocca, etc.

Get wolves (DL), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

"Don't Cry" may feature his best OTT feedback.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

"Neil knows NOTHING about 'Ordinary People'!"--David Briggs

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

am so bummed that i forgot to vote for American Stars N Bars as my fav album cover

some dude, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

Three things that made my head spin a bit: keeping track of 1) "Hey Hey, My My"/"My My, Hey Hey" votes, 2)"Drive Back"/"Drive By" votes, and 3) "Don't Cry No Tears"/"Don't Cry" votes.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

don't cry is explosive. one of the scarier songs he's ever done.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

"Hey Hey, My My"/"My My, Hey Hey" were counted as one song, right?

some dude, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

The 12:36 black and white 1988 "Ordinary People" on Youtube is pretty great.

boxall, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

No. People were very specific--sometimes voting for both--and to me, they're so different that wouldn't make sense. (Unlike the two "Tonight's the Night"s.)

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil73.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

A+ photo.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

ah. wish i'd taken the time to think about which i was voting for and make a note, then -- it's all the same song to me, just like lots of other songs on my ballot have good acoustic and electric versions. (xpost)

some dude, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

"Don't Cry" is a really cool song. Didn't vote for it, but it was close. Like his vocals a lot on that song.

grandavis, Monday, 9 July 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

xp When I voted it looked like the consensus was to group them together, later on clemenza clarified he was splitting them but I didn't bother rethinking my ballot.

recordbreaking transfer to Lucknow FC (seandalai), Monday, 9 July 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, the live takes of "Ordinary People" from the late 80s were great, but by the time it made Chrome Dreams II I felt like it had passed him by a bit. Didn't vote for it, or for "Don't Cry" though both were on my shortlist.

"Cocaine Eyes" was #26 on my ballot. Worth the price of Eldorado on Japanese import CD right there.

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

I hadn't heard "Cocaine Eyes" till this poll. Maybe it'll grow on me, but one time through I didn't care for it that much.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

That and "Heavy Love" usually run neck-and-neck for me, but I ended up putting "Cocaine Eyes" a few places higher.

In Shakey, Neil said he got the inspiration for the Eldorado EP after watching The Kids Are Alright on cable. "I wanna do something like that!"

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 9 July 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

That's Halston in the photo, right? He looks like Phil Hartman there.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

Still waiting for Neil's Nash diss track...

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 9 July 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil72.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

I wanted to do every image in purple words on a grey background, but it wasn't meant to be.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

idle Neil thought - is there any other rock n roll artist who has both written and elicited so many "response" songs? (Circle Game, Sweet Home Alabama, Hey Hey My My is kinda a response to the Pistols, This Note's For You is a response to Clapton's ads etc)

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 July 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

like Ordinary People but agree didn't much like the chrome dreams version

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

chubby checker xpost

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

Sample and Hold was my #1! Such a great song.

recordbreaking transfer to Lucknow FC (seandalai), Monday, 9 July 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

yaaaaaaaaaay, i voted for Sample And Hold. so good.

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

I would like to confess that I am the owner of the "Sample and Hold" 12" with the "Dance Remixes" of it and "Mr. Soul" and yet it still didn't make my ballot.

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

Did I goof on "Ordinary People"--was it on another album prior to Chrome Dreams II?

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

xp ooh, I have never heard these "Dance Remixes", worth checking out (even if only as curios)?

recordbreaking transfer to Lucknow FC (seandalai), Monday, 9 July 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

nope, it was unreleased but heavily bootlegged until CDII

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

I wish there'd been a dance remix of "Words (Between the Lines of Age)."

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil71.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

ah, here's the first one i voted for! this song is ridiculously beautiful.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

In the mid-90s I saw a band do a trip-hoppy version of "Pocahontas". It was different.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

I'd say if you really love the song and the Trans stuff in general then yes, absolutely worth checking out the Sample and Hold remixes. The single mix is different than the LP version too... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH1Ivbe4wFU

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

I love the version of "Transformer Man" from unplugged but the original never did much for me.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

Yes! "Transformer Man" was one of my last minute cuts; so glad it placed!

cwkiii, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

Gee, I wish Ordinary People finished higher. Such a great song.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

If you're primarily a dreamer-of-pictures and run-in-the-night type (like me), please don't hit the panic button.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

Another Trans track I voted for (and saved from >75 obscurity)!

recordbreaking transfer to Lucknow FC (seandalai), Monday, 9 July 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

anyone who thinks a bunch of synthed-out tracks and blue notes numbers tare going to score higher than Ordinary People, Transformer Man and Sample And Hold has probably already eaten the panic button

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

I am so happy this poll exists because I only really know the Canadian radio/campfire jams but never heard anything like Sample and Hold, for instance. This is so great! Thanks, Clemenza.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 9 July 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil70.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

"Words" was a late cut. Glad to see it.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

Glad you were able to get a ballot in today, FFM--this poll was woefully short of Canadians and females. (Breaking news: obsessive list-making favored by males.)

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

and by non-Canadians?

recordbreaking transfer to Lucknow FC (seandalai), Monday, 9 July 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

I love the version of "Transformer Man" from unplugged but the original never did much for me.

― EZ Snappin, Monday, July 9, 2012 1:15 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

ha i voted for it purely off the Unplugged version, have never heard Trans

some dude, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

^ "Words" a late cut for me as well, I love the last couple minutes of that song.

boxall, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

never been crazy about "words", i always expect it to be better than it is.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

xp Hah! Well the Neil Young I do know, I love - and thankfully years of Q107 and summers in the Kawarthas with my parents' friends ensured that I had a decent 20 song ballot. Also now that I am youtubing I am discovering that there's more I knew, but didn't know the titles of. Thanks for slipping my songs into the mix! I felt like such a shit when I realized yesterday was the deadline.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 9 July 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

I'm with tylerw re: Words. One of my most skipped songs ever.

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

A rambling mess, but I've always loved it as an indecipherable mood piece (though not quite enough for my ballot). Can't remember who, but someone made a point of giving it zero points!

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

I love ILX!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 9 July 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil69.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

Never make it to those last two minutes of "Words", find it as a letdown for some reason as well and always skip it. I like his solos on it alright, but hate the chorus/vocals for some reason.

grandavis, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

Oof. Words is so clearly the best thing on Harvest to me, a little horrified to see it so low.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

Words was a late cut for me too, yay for it placing! I don't think Neil does many songs with such eccentric time signatures, so that was way cool to hear

in fact I think Words was one of my '0 pts' teary-eyed votes

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 9 July 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

old laughing lady is wonderful in all its incarnations -- really got excited about the og studio version thanks to the archives. such a weird arrangement, kind of makes me think of nick drake ("river man" in partic). and then those insane backgrund voices. nothing else really like it in neil's catalog.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

I never really cared for "The Old Laughing Lady" until I found a couple of excellent covers of it. Made me rehear the song...though I don't think I've gone back and listened to the original since finding them.

Okay, I misinterpreted LLB--I thought you were saying that those were your three least favourite Neil songs.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil68.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

Sad song--my favourite from Time Fades Away, along with another that didn't place.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

these are some pretty fucking random results!

voted for Transformer Man, love both the Trans and especially the Unplugged versions

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 July 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

I've been jamming Love In Mind over & over today. I'd never noticed it's only 1:40 'til I realised how often I had to keep skipping back.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

They are random, and maybe for most people the most interesting stretch. Past today, things fall into place.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

Love In Mind was another late cut. So glad others liked it enough to get it to place.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

I adore "Love In Mind" -- featured it on a (long ago) mix tape for the wife. Placed it at #30 (out of 50).

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

aawwww, my #2 - #68 (?!?)
absolutely adore
maybe people consider it slight 'cuz it's so short?

making plans for nyquil (outdoor_miner), Monday, 9 July 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

xp ha, i put love in mind on a mixtape for my wife many years - and she hated it.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

yet you still married her

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

It reminds me, of all things, of the Guess Who's "Sour Suite."

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

The lyrics grate on me some (the "Churches long preach sex is wrong" verse specifically).

boxall, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

xp He played Words at Glastonbury. I was like, really Neil? You're blowing a chunk of a headlining set on this?

Get wolves (DL), Monday, 9 July 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

Neil already broke up two marriages on the voting thread.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil67.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

Neil helped make my marriage happen.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

"Love In Mind" and "The Old Laughing Lady" were very late cuts for me. Woulda made it into my top 50 for sure.

grandavis, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

xp to clem: lol no those were the songs that I just couldn't manage to find room on my ballot for

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 9 July 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

Was just gonna say that Neil has probably helped/saved as many marriages as come close to ruining them. He has range.

grandavis, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

Anyone know who that is?

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

Who am I to talk? I took my now-missus to see Neil in 2001 and she had to leave to sit down midway through.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

believe it or not, my wife is fairly indifferent to neil young. somehow we've made it work.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link

Hey, my wife loved "Love In Mind" and is (probably) coming to her first NY gig with me in October!

I remember watching the Oscars broadcast when NY played his "Philadelphia" and Springsteen played his and having that AWFUL feeling in the pit of my stomach that Springsteen would win despite Neil writing a 110% more devastating and emotionally charged theme song. Not that Bruce's is bad (it's actually really good), but Neil's is bona fide tear inducing.

Had it at #27.

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link

Pic looks like a young Ken Griffey Sr to me, but I don't think it is...

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

The movie is manipulative as hell at this point, but when that song plays over the fake home movie footage at the end of the movie ... waterworks.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

hmm can't believe i forgot to vote for philly. maybe his best piano ballad?

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

my wife is a big fan of neil's contemporaries and yet can't stand neil's voice, one of the few folks who are verboten from living room play when she's home. if i'm dying to hear his stuff, I have to settle for the first Crazy Horse album.

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

Love in Mind, Transformer Man, Cocaine Eyes all on my ballot.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 July 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

I remember that broadcast too, and they definitely gave the award to the wrong song.

The picture is of Glenn Burke. I just finished Dan Epstein's book on baseball in the '70s, and there's a bit in there on Burke--more here, if anyone's interested.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

"Love In Mind" and "Words" are the only songs so far that definitely wouldn't have a shot at my personal top 75, though "Cocaine Eyes" I think I've only heard on youtube like twice so I can't speak to that one either way.

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

if I ever end a relationship in a way disastrous for myself I will blast "Don't Cry."

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 July 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil66.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

My favourite why-do-I-keep-fuckin'-up? scene ever.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

The first one I voted for! Only threw it 5 points but I love what a glorious mess it often became live.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

"Fuckin' Up" was one of my last cuts, along with "Piece of Crap." I'd love to see them both on here!

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

Love "Fuckin' Up"! Love that image too!

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 9 July 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i cut fuckin up too, but it is a monster, so worthy of its title.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

The version from Weld gets me doing a shitkicker stomp.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

Totally voted for "Fucking Up," and had I ranked my ballot I would have ranked it high.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

ha yeah my first to make it as well

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 9 July 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

What is that screencap from?

boxall, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

I think if we had decided to count different versions, I would have voted one of those shambolic live takes of it, but the studio cut just sounds tame in comparison to me now.

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

lol @ "Fuckin' Up" image

I restricted myself to one Ragged Glory tune and while that one is great, ultimately it wasn't what I chose

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 July 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

my top fifteen is on cue to make the bottom third of this poll.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 July 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

(clemenza - remember to put the names & points on the thread somewhere so the thread still makes sense if the images die. I assume people from the future will still hold a candle for Neil)

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

It's from Fargo, boxall, the scene where Macy flips out in the parking lot.

I stored all the images on my own homepage index, so they should be good for as long as Tripod and/or I stay in business.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil65.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

Seems low. "Classic rock" radio fatigue?

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 9 July 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

glad to see this so low.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 July 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

I think I've heard "Philadelphia" once. Anyone wanna sell me on it?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 July 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

Stuff I never knew: they were making George Wallace comic books in the early '60s.

http://boingboing.net/images/georgewallace002.jpg

I'm probably more tired of "Southern Man" than anything else on Gold Rush--fine on the album (it breaks up side one effectively), but I usually switch off when it comes on the radio.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

xpost It's beautiful?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

xp it's pretty? beautiful, heartfelt lyrics that i can only imagine neil young pulling off? the pet shop boys do it?

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

sold!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

There's a number of blistering live takes on "Southern Man" that are great, and I love the treatment that Neil puts on his voice for that last verse, but it still missed my ballot -- didn't even make the shortlist. It is just too heavy handed for me, along with "Alabama."

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

I think "Southern Man" is a hamfisted snooze.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

"Cocaine Eyes" I only discovered about 18 months ago. I'm a sucker for the late eighties Niko Bolas sound.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

Alfred, I'm surprised you didn't stan for Philadelphia -- it's such a fantastic weepy ballad. Just listen to it and put Tom Hanks out of your mind.

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

i'm a big fan of the insane southern mans on the crazy horse 1976 tour -- the band seems barely able to figure out the tempo changes, neil is skronking up a storm, and the whole thing just lurches.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

"Southern Man" is exactly what kept me away from Young for years. I've held my nose so long that I think I'm ready for another shot.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

tom hanks never left my mind

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

I was a little too young, but I think "Southern Man" probably benefited from the immediacy of the moment.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

I think "Southern Man" is a hamfisted snooze.

Have you heard "Alabama"?

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

seriously "Southern Man" is so much better than "Southern Man II"

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

I agree. I really think "Ohio" is the only one of his Big Statements on the United States Wrongdoing songs that still holds up, but then again, I live here, have walked on that hill at Kent State, etc. so I'm massively biased.

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

the studio southern man is pretty interesting -- that scratchy vocal effect on the "crosses" verse, the oompah piano, the ultra minimalist guitar solo. as 70s guitar jamz go, it's kind of weird.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

^^ the pi-anner is the best part

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

I hope Neil Young will remember

Brad C., Monday, 9 July 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

actually, "hamfisted snooze" sums up my thoughts on SM p neatly (though it's kind of like all of Kansas' career in pre=prog embryo tbh).

iirc I left off all of the first side of Gold Rush except for one song; the second side was an awesome surprise after first hearing it, and I still prefer it

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

"Southern Man" is Walking Tall, an effective cartoon you can appreciate the agit-prop craft of if you're not too turned off by the message. "Alabama" is Walking Tall Part II with Bo Svenson replacing Joe Don Baker.

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, that is a perfect metaphor, actually. Nice.

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

"Alabama" placed 76th; because it's played so less frequently on the hard-rock station here, I prefer it right now (but realize Neil's going over ground he already covered). Suddenly, I want to defend both songs...

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil64.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

^^ a good song I always forget about

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

They're both pretty lame. "Crime int he City" is really cool, though. The bass on that is buried but nuts.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

maybe the only successful song with non-trad Neil instrumental flourishes in his catalog.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

WOAH! Guess I was wrong about "Ordinary People" being the preferred Blue Notes jam. Voted for this, totally didn't expect it to place.

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

too low! (even tho I coudnt afford it many points)

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

"Crime in the City" is one of the very few instances where I prefer the non-Crazy Horse version to the Crazy Horse version. And I looove the Crazy Horse version.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

voted for that crime in the city. love the freedom version, love the weld version, but the best version is the 20-minute live version.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

Great song, yet another that I just couldn't find room for. Agreed that the epic live take is the best too.

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

yeah I think I specified on my ballot that I was voting for one of the bootleg versions, and all my boots have come courtesy of doomandgloom

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

I immediately gravitated to the two ballads I love on Freedom, so except for the hit and "On Broadway," the truth is that I don't remember much else.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

is it too late to add "Wish I never put the hose down...wish I never got POLLED" to the thread title?

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link

I voted both Southern Man and Alabama highly - they rock imo. The intro riff on Alabama especially. I don't get the hate, but then I ain't from round these parts.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

1. A++ for the images, clemenza

2. Hey, I made a difference: voted for 75, 74 and 73 (and three others so far)

3. Countdown's going by real fast. I think I'll come back tomorrow and do the comments thing then.

Jeff W, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

yeah the images are great, very neil

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks. I initially read that as "Hey, I made a difference: voted in 75, 74, and 73"...I thought you were re-living the Nixon meltdown.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil63.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

That's somebody who lives just down the road from Neil's Broken Arrow ranch. I don't know, I've just never been a big fan of this song...very arty.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

My very last cut. Surpised it is this low, but I think we'll see more BS to come...

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

it's kind of hilarious he ended a bunch of shows with "A Day in The Life" when he had this in his bag

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

Meant in a good way, of course. (xpost)

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

xp it's pretty? beautiful, heartfelt lyrics that i can only imagine neil young pulling off? the pet shop boys do it?

I'd really love that to have happened. Could imagine that slotting nicely at the end of 'Behaviour'.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

i love "Broken Arrow" - def arty as hell but beautiful and the non-song parts move pretty quickly

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

It really did happen--the PSB have done an excellent cover of "Philadelphia."

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

xp! the pet shop boys do it, for real

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

I have no use for Buffalo Springfield. Try and try and try and yuck.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbamhAYwyJ4

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

woah way too low! Thought this would be more of a crowd-pleaser...

recordbreaking transfer to Lucknow FC (seandalai), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

"Broken Arrow" is my first to place so far. Have always loved the cut-up nature. And its beauty.

grandavis, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

xxpost
Why didn't I know about this until now!

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

Listening to 'Philadelphia' now, never even knew it existed before today (haven't seen the film either). It's lovely.

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

broken arrow is flawed, has some nice moments, but not the masterpiece it wants to be. funny to think if it had been a big hit or something, and neil had spent the rest of his career doing five minute orchestral song suites.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

That PSB version of Phildelphia is excellent.

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

wow I thought the PSB thing was a joke!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

No one's asked, but I meant to mention that I haven't bothered posting first-place votes because so many ballots--half or more, I would guess--were unranked. I'll try to do that at the end, when I post the full list.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link

Something tells me that no matter what, Neil was always going to NOT spend the rest of his career doing anything with any consistency or regularity, hit or no hit. Into the ditch...

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link

I will say that I like "Broken Arrow" more than Stills' even longer "Bluebird"--it's been a while, but a lot more, I think.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

It's funny how Neil juvenalia is full of ornate Sgt. Pepperisms before he heads off to the garage at the ranch to mature

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil62.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

If I was going with Ornate Neil, I'd pick about half of the solo debut and "Expecting To Fly" over "Broken Arrow." It's an endearing failure, but I feel like he's done more with those ideas in other songs.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

Aaaaaaand I just realized I missed a couple of the most obvious songs. Oh, Lex.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

I'm referring to the really long "Bluebird" on the early-'70s anthology--seems the original was just over four minutes.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

"Harvest" = my #17.

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

If I was going with Ornate Neil, I'd pick about half of the solo debut and "Expecting To Fly" over "Broken Arrow." It's an endearing failure, but I feel like he's done more with those ideas in other songs.

yeah i'd agree with this (well maybe not HALF of the solo debut), though everything from the '60s on Decade is gorgeous IMO.

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

my biggest problem with CSNY and Buffalo is that Decade cherry-picked the Neil stuff so well that the other guys are at a serious disadvantage. decent countryish number followed by GENIUS GODHEAD I'VE KNOWN SINCE MIDDLE SCHOOL followed by some little hippie thing...

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

La Lechera left me her ballot so I would like to note she voted for "Harvest"

EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

Well, I think the other guys were at a serious disadvantage anyway just by virtue of not being Neil Young, but yeah, that definitely factors in.

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

Didn't realize Harvest was the biggest-selling LP of '72. I knew it'd be up there, but I would have thought Exile, Paul Simon, a Carpenters LP, Carole King's Music, something else. Like the title song a whole lot.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil61.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

From La Lechera:

"Lotta Love (Neil's version, not Nicolette's, this song is perfect)"

EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link

Nice! Thought vote splitting would keep that one from making it.

cwkiii, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

Nicolette Larson's cover did get one vote--something that sounded much better to me years and years after the fact.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

my biggest problem with CSNY and Buffalo is that Decade cherry-picked the Neil stuff so well that the other guys are at a serious disadvantage

I do think that Stills' best Springfield stuff is the equal of, and sometimes greater, than Neil's.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I still prefer Neil's version, but Nicolette's has grown on me in the last few years. When I was a kid and heard that come on the radio, I practically ran to change the dial.

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

Sad and surprised to find out that she died many years ago.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

Love the images on the last two.

I really like the cover of 'Lotta Love' (I actually think I heard it first) but I stuck with an all-Neil ballot (and voted for the original anyway).

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil60.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

Aww, cute kids, but this song has never done much for me. I do think of it every time I mess up my kids' hair though...

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

You're going to hear me gush and gush on Tuesday and Wednesday, but another one I've always been indifferent to--I like Richie Furay's "A Child's Claim to Fame" so much more.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

Third one from my ballot! (others were Expecting to Fly and Words)

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i kind of re-evaluated the first album stuff around the time the remasters and archives came out and at the time thought i had underrated it...now i'm coming around to my first view is that that era is not my favorite of his.

was really bummed to have to cut "burned" by BS off archives from my list.

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 9 July 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

Oh man I hope Burned makes it. That's probably my favorite BS song.

Also love "Sell Out" from around that time. Really fun, great groove.

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i cut burned, too, but it's one of my fave neil BS songs. kind of a perfect little 60s pop number.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

and I Am A Child has never been a big fave. Nice, but not great.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

Had "Lotta Love" and "Harvest", both rhytmically really pleasing for me for some reason, of all things to be into in those songs.

grandavis, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

I remember a Neil interview when he was asked about some of his lyrics and he said (I'm paraphrasing, but he specifically referenced this line), "I don't know what my stuff means. 'What is the color when black is burned'? What is that? Like dark grey or something?"

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 9 July 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

"It's hard to know the meaning of this song..."

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

that's awesome

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil59.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

Hah, great picture!

grandavis, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

Thumbs up for the pic, not so much for the song (one of my least favorites on TTN).

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

decent countryish number followed by GENIUS GODHEAD I'VE KNOWN SINCE MIDDLE SCHOOL followed by some little hippie thing...

Ha ha. OTM.

Get wolves (DL), Monday, 9 July 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

Separated by a matter of weeks: Tonight's the Night came out on June 20, 1975, the "Thrilla in Manila" was October, 1, '75.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link

A hip drag queen and
A side-walkin' street wheeler,
Comin' down the avenue.
They're all your friends,
You'll come to love 'em
There's a load of 'em
Waitin' for you.

didn't vote for this, but i love it. kind of like neil's version of walk on the wild side? glory hallelujah!

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link

Like I said on the other thread, just perfect in the context of the album, hard for me to detach it otherwise.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

My first song to place. Chose it partly as a stand-in for TTN as a whole, but it's definitely one of my favorites. Livens up the second side of the record.

boxall, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

yeah it's that awesome sleazoid tonight's the night vibe -- although it was recorded on the TFA tour.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

"lookout joe" is definitely one of the lessers on that album for me

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

Back in high school, we thought Tonight's the Night was extremely lively--but a weird kind of lively, yes.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

love lookout joe!

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 9 July 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

"Havin' a ball ... rollin' to the bottom!" Love that verse.

boxall, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil58.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, another awesome pic!

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

Such an unusual song on Comes a Time...spooky; one of the best.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

another great one that didn't make my ballot, glad it got some love. the distant, scary distorted guitar that lurks in the background is a cool touch.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

xp I actually didn't vote for a single Tonight's the Night track. Love the album but none of the songs really worked in isolation when I was putting my ballot together. Guess I should have chosen a stand-in but I couldn't settle on one.

Get wolves (DL), Monday, 9 July 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

cut Lookout Joe but thought hard about it

voted Don't cry super high, love the rolling bass riff & Neils screams

Euler, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

Back-to-back Lookouts is fun, btw.

The vocal harmonies really make this one for me, but it missed my final ballot.

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

Love the album but none of the songs really worked in isolation when I was putting my ballot together
yeah i voted for less TtN tracks than i would've thought for the same reason. it's kinda one big song!

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

I think that's valid. I once made a list of my ten favourite Rolling Stones songs for something I was doing, and I called the entirety of Exile a "phantom 11th pick." (xxxpost)

Yeah, it's weird how the two look-out songs ended up side-by-side.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link

lookout mama

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

I voted for this one as well. The weird solo on the bridge. "I know things are going to change but I can't say bad or good" is a line that pops into my head sometimes.

boxall, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

anybody else vote specifically for, or at least had in mind, the MTV Unplugged version of "Look Out For My Love"?

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

Isn't it acoustic to begin with? Maybe it's very muted electric guitar, I don't know.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil57.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

Re: TTN - I think I only wound up with one song from it on my ballot, but if I were ranking NY albums, it would be top 5, easy.

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

Isn't it acoustic to begin with? Maybe it's very muted electric guitar, I don't know.

The instrumentation is less eccentric in the MTV version, goes on a little longer, etc. Love both versions but they're distinct in my mind, probably cuz I heard the MTV one first.

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

anybody else vote specifically for, or at least had in mind, the MTV Unplugged version of "Look Out For My Love"?

― da croupier, Monday, July 9, 2012 3:23 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

yup -- Unplugged was kind of my introduction to NY and i voted for more than half the songs on it, often with those versions in mind

some dude, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

Kind of surprised to see "Unknown Legend" on here at all - good tune, but I don't think I even thought twice about it.

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

"Unknown Legend" is such a lovely little song. 2nd of mine to place.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

Don't know who that is, but she reminds me of Theresa Russell circa Straight Time.

I don't have Harvest Moon--please don't ostracize me--but I played this a couple of times and really, really liked it.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

Way too low for "Unknown Legend"!

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 9 July 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

Harvest Moon > Harvest

EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

Corny but sweet.

Get wolves (DL), Monday, 9 July 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

I like Unknown Legend but the way Demme wedged it into Rachel Getting Married was a turn-off

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

haha, yeah, that was an odd choice.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

Of all the Neil songs he coulda snuck in there too

grandavis, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

really don't like unknown legend. ilx loves the corn.

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

Thought it was fine in the movie, but it made me spend more time with the original and I totally fell in love with it all over again.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 9 July 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

Demme's got great musical tastes but shit like that or a Soft Boys reunion track showing up in The Truth About Charlie is just fucking distracting, the downside of auteurism

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

I saw Rachel Getting Married and have no recollection of Neil whatsoever.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil56.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

tv on the radio dude chooses to sing the opening track of Harvest Moon as his marriage vow xpost

"downtown" is great but picking a whitten song was too slippery slope for me

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

Photo goes out to Finefinemusic!

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link

I saw Rachel Getting Married and have no recollection of Neil whatsoever.

The TV on the Radio dude sang it at the wedding.

(xpost)

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 9 July 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't pick anything from HM -- my least favorite of the comeback records.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 July 2012 19:38 (twelve years ago) link

Neil co-wrote "Downtown"--I did check that to make sure it was eligible.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:38 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, didn't vote for downtown because i think of it more as whitten, but so great. what a cool riff -- should be played on classic rock radio all the time.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:38 (twelve years ago) link

i think neil has said his contrib to "downtown" was the "sure enough they'll be sellin stuff" line.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:39 (twelve years ago) link

(Although I guess it would have been eligible anyway, according to my murky guidelines...)

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:39 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i mean it's on TTN, totally valid

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link

"Downtown" was way high on my ballot. After "Borrowed Tune" it's like, hey look, a herd of elephants running towards us!

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 9 July 2012 19:41 (twelve years ago) link

It's as bright and power-poppy as almost anything Neil's ever done, for me (though again, just missed my ballot).

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, love the way it crashes in. once i found out it was a 1970 Crazy Horse live recording, I was like pleaaaaaase put out the full show! Only had to wait about 15 years.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

For a long time I heard the line "Snake eyes, french fries" as "Steak house french fries." Great song.

boxall, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil55.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

This one, I love. So weird that Neil handed over the lead vocal to Richie Furay.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

I've never heard this album. Is it any good?

Get wolves (DL), Monday, 9 July 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

think i prefer Furay singing this one? maybe. i like CSNY doing this one too.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

for me "Look Out For My Love" has to be the original album version; and yeah, it's that weird sustained electric guitar that does it....I love the Neil Young who is aggressive and acoustic at once (aggressively acoustic? acoustic aggression?)

theStalePrince, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

Voted for this but mainly for the Massey Hall version.

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

xp yeah he does that occasionally -- the distant overdubbed distorto guitar on an otherwise mellow song. "pardon my heart" kinda has it too.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

The album is not very good, no, mostly an odds and ends thing, but this song is fantastic. I MUCH prefer the solo acoustic versions and also voted for it with that in mind. He opened with it when I saw him on the solo acoustic tour back in 1999 and it was just perfect.

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

I've had the same two-record anthology of theirs since the mid-'70s. I bought Last Time Around years later, but never played it like I used to play the anthology. But it's got some great songs: besides "On the Way Home," there's "Four Days Gone," "Special Care," "Questions," "Uno Mundo" (all Stills'), and Furay's "Kind Woman."

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

My vote was very much for the Massey Hall version, I can't really stand the BS version, that version of "on the way home" is probably my most favorite single thing from the archives

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 9 July 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

Odds and ends, yes--it was assembled after they'd broken up.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil54.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

Love these pictures clemenza.

Get wolves (DL), Monday, 9 July 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks. Be thankful I didn't post 75 Nixon-related images--not that you couldn't make a case for doing so.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, images are great.
"birds" is one of my fave neil young breakup anthems. the harmonies on the chorus are incredible.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, love the way it crashes in. once i found out it was a 1970 Crazy Horse live recording, I was like pleaaaaaase put out the full show! Only had to wait about 15 years.

― tylerw, Monday, July 9, 2012 3:43 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was confuseder than fuck when I first heard it unedited on the Fillmore East disc. But that's a brilliant show, even though they had to share the bill with that sorry-ass non-playing motherfucker Steve Miller.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 9 July 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

When I was gathering stuff for that covers piece, it was a real eye-opener as to how many people had covered "Birds."

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

Birds is in at 33 on my list. Fantastic song. I spent a REALLY long time trying to find the alternate band version that appeared on a single flipside back in the day (on Only Love Can Break... IIRC) and never found it. I DID get a copy of the 45 on eBay, but it had the regular album version.

Now that Archives Vol 1 is out, I don't have to look for it any more, thankfully.

Don't think I've ever heard a cover of Birds! Who has done it?

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

xp Neil had Nixon and Wallace covered. Factor in War Song and you've got McGovern too. He had the 72 election nailed.

Kathryn Williams does a beautiful version of Birds - she does great covers of I Started a Joke, Candy Says, Hallelujah and Thirteen on the same album.

Get wolves (DL), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link

bette midler does birds -- it's great! [i think i heard it via clemenza actually]

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

Linda Ronstadt did a cover of "Birds", too.

cwkiii, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t82DqhAsos

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

And seriously, what kind of motherfucker writes 53 songs that are better than fucking "Birds"?

cwkiii, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

I found seven at the time:

Aubriton Meek, Jr. (Be the Rain, 2006)
Bette Midler (Live at Last, 1977)
Claudine Longet (Let’s Spend the Night Together, 1972)
Field Mice (undated)
Jann Arden (Borrowed Tunes: A Tribute to Neil Young, 1994)
Paul Weller (Studio 150, 2004)
Suede (undated)

I guess that's not all that many, but I'd always thought of it as one of Gold Rush's least known songs.

As with so many '70s artists, I think of Nixon as (sorry for the cliche) Neil's great white whale.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

How did I miss Ronstadt? I'll have to track that down.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil53.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

Clemenza - that is, no joke, one of my favourite photos of Toronto. I wish A&A (and Sam for that matter!) were still there - I don't think I ever saw it - but my husband and I are A&As with a love of vintage Toronto photographs/maps/etc. He's got that one saved for some eventual photo printing.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

The Doom Trilogy!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

xpost It's on her 3rd album (the self-titled).

cwkiii, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

oh man motion pictures. if i had ranked my songs, that might've been #1. super classic song to play on guitar while sitting around enjoying honey slides with your friends.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

Some people listed this as "Motion Pictures (For Carrie)." But I checked the album, and the "For Carrie" seems to be a dedication-only on the paper sleeve--it's just "Motion Pictures" on the cover and on the record itself.

I worked just across the street at Sunrise for years--used to bank at that CIBC (which lasted till the late '80s; the photo's from '70 or so).

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

"Years ago," rather--it was all of two years.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

Huh - yeah, just looked on Wikipedia and it seems like A&A was there til the mid90s! I remember when Future Shop came in but for the life of me can't remember A&A. But, I was pretty young. Pity. At least I got to log a few years in the gigantic Sam's!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

my #1! would've barely cracked the list without me, it seems, so good thing I got the ballot in.

the way his voice gets creaky on that descending "start all over again" just fucking slays me, every single time. couldn't say why.

theStalePrince, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

I've got Kingsmen albums from their 99-cent atrium, and I think I once held a fluorescent-skull White Light/White Heat in my hands there...don't get me started on record stores. (xpost)

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks for posting that "Birds" covers list... I actually own that Weller version and totally forgot about it!

Re: "Motion Pictures" -- didn't make my list, but if this finished this high, can we basically expect the entire On The Beach album to chart now? I can see "Vampire Blues" missing the cut though, I guess.

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

Where's the Suede version from, clemenza?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

when they finally issued OTB on CD, they added "(for Carrie)" to the song title, no? it's on the CD track listing in my itunes...

theStalePrince, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

need to spend more time with the second side of ATGR.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

Somehow I bumped "Motion Pictures" lower on my ballot, but really 16-34 were all kinda interchangeable, I just had to list them all in some kind of order. On the right day though this is all time great for me. Super song to play on guitar, the chord sequence could just go on forever and be all right with me.

grandavis, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link

Cannot imagine "Vampire Blues" placing higher than this, would be really surprised.

grandavis, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe they did append the parenthetical later on--it's not there on the album, though, just the sleeve. The Suede cover is just something I found on Soulseek.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

xp oh I just looked up this Suede cover of Birds but are you confusing it with their song To The Birds?

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

I'll have to check that, I've got it on my hard drive.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil52.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

No, it's an NY cover - I just found it on youtube. To The Birds is something else.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

dammn

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

xp oh but if you listened to it, there's a good chance I'm wrong! I don't know that Neil song but used to have a LOT of Suede so I wanted to see if I'd heard it through them. We won't talk about beloved record stores of yore. But as I just got a record player you can give me suggestions as to where I can dig now. ;)

I really do love these pictures - great stuff!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

Nice song, grew tired of it over time.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

Ah cool IK! I will have to look it up. I just googled and every hit seemed to be TTB.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

Whenever I hear "Long May You Run," I think of "Eat a Peach - Love, Neil"

Ha! Gotta love that guy.

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

We've entered the section of the results full of songs I did not vote for. Though I think I almost voted "Long May You Run."

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

beach boys verse in long may you run is perfect. the beach boys should cover it, for god's sake!

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

I admire Eric H's restraint in holding back his own opinions during his horror-film poll. I can't do that--though if I say I don't like something (or that I'm tired of it), it's not meant to antagonize anyone who voted for it.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, the BB verse comes out of nowhere just perfectly--like Joe DiMaggio in "Mrs. Robinson."

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

LMYR just missed my ballot

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link

I'll do one more for today. #50-26 will be tomorrow, the rest on Wednesday.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

neil is good at evoking the beach -- not in the typical sunny fashion, but more the bleary, misty hungover mornings (as so righteously depicted on the On The Beach album cover). as someone who grew up in southern california, i appreciate this.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil51.jpg

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

Regret not voting for "Birds", though it too was a late cut, but "Long May You Run" was always a pleasant but minor song for me.

grandavis, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

OK. I'm not sure what to do when Will To Love places higher than Lookout Joe.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

Another one I'm sort of surprised to see here. I do love this recording, if not the actual song all that much.

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

Threw me way back when, but it came up on another Neil thread, and when I went back for another listen it sounded strange and good.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:33 (twelve years ago) link

I might just be remembering it wrong, but can't you just make out a campfire crackling on the recording?

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

Will To Love is amazing, one of my favorites. Such a cool recording. He's never played it live, right?
Yeah, there's a campfire in the background. Love all the odd instrumental overdubs.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

"Will to Love" is one of those that I've found both a masterpiece and a bore....in the end I think I'd love it unreservedly if it were half as long.

theStalePrince, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

OK. I'm not sure what to do when Will To Love places higher than Lookout Joe.

smoke pot by a fireplace, obv

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

Christgau's dismissal (which I wouldn't have read till two or three years after the record came out, but I think it implanted itself in my brain): "The second (side) is a journey through the past that perhaps should have stayed in the outtake can. On one tune, Neil turns into a salmon while masturbating in front of the fireplace..."

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

ha i almost wrote "jerk off in front of a fireplace" for that reason but i like the song too much

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

You know, I really wish the guy would put out a "Decade II."

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, there's a campfire in the background.

I had a used vinyl copy of ASnB, and thought whoever owned it before me must've really liked "Will To Love"; it had so many more cracks and pops than the other songs.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

So far:

75. “Ordinary People” (7 votes/68 points)
74. “Don’t Cry” (7/71)
73. “Cocaine Eyes” (8/71)
72. “Sample and Hold” (8/77)
71. “Transformer Man” (7/78)
70. “Words (Between the Lines of Age)” (9/78)
69. “The Old Laughing Lady” (8/84)
68. “Love in Mind” (11/89)
67. “Philadelphia” (9/93)
66. “Fuckin’ Up” (12/93)
65. “Southern Man” (10/95)
64. “Crime in the City (Sixty to Zero Part I)” (10/96)
63. “Broken Arrow” (11/96)
62. “Harvest” (11/97)
61. “Lotta Love” (13/97)
60. “I Am a Child” (12/99)
59. “Lookout Joe” (11/104)
58. “Look Out for My Love” (12/104)
57. “Unknown Legend” (11/108)
56. “Come on Baby Let’s Go Downtown” (11/110)
55. “On the Way Home” (9/115)
54. “Birds” (12/117)
53. “Motion Pictures” (13/126)
52. “Long May You Run” (13/129)
51. “Will to Love” (13/132)

Fresh air, food, etc.

clemenza, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

i like all of these songs! neil young rules!

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

so most of my ballot made the bottom third then, I see

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link

Just getting around to looking at this -- awesome pix, nice selection of stuff (including lots of things I felt bad about leaving off, like "Sample and Hold," "Philadelphia," "Fuckin Up").

In defense of "Southern Man," I would just like to say that I had every intention of leaving it off my ballot -- for most of the thematic reasons noted above -- until I actually listened to the thing again and remembered what a jam it is. It could be called "Fryin' Pan" or "Cowboy Stan" and it still would've made my ballot.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link

"Fryin' Pan" prolly would have been awesome, a la "T-Bone" from RE AC TOR!

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

So far just 6 i voted for, but an equal number i strongly considered but didn't vote for.

Lee626, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

okay well, a quarter of my ballot has posted so far:

Transformer Man
Crime in the City (Sixty to Zero Part I)
Lookout Joe
Long May You Run
Look Out for My Love

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

Only four of mine have placed so far (Downtown, Cocaine Eyes, Don't Cry, Crime). I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume that neither "Arc" nor anything from Dead Man will place.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:56 (twelve years ago) link

here are the ones that i voted for so far

The Old Laughing Lady
Birds
Motion Pictures
Crime In The City
Transformer Man
Cocaine Eyes
Will To Love

worried that "surfer joe and moe the sleaze" is not going to place!!!!

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

Three songs for me: "Come On Baby Let's Go Downtown," "Philadelphia" and "I Am a Child." Tho I suspect my love of Live Rust will end up skewing results more toward the obvious.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

I'm drawing a complete blank on Suede, nobody seems to know where that's come from. They did a couple of excellent covers for charity records in the early 90s (Shipbuilding and Brass In Pocket) but I've got no idea if this was similar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As1cNwlby-8

But my research did lead me to this marvellous footage of Neil busking in Glasgow in 1976, which I'd seen once years ago but had never been able to find again. It's kind of grim, but I think very charming. Full backstory here, featuring a stoned, then fireraising, and finally contrite, entourage.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

only 4 from my top 40 but a bunch would have made my top 75, plus there's two rarities i should know better and some album tracks i've heard a million times but never considered as spotlight tracks. awesome poll so far!

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

Enjoying the rollout! I think 6 of my 30 have shown up so far. Good image choices.

Neil Jung (WmC), Monday, 9 July 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume that neither "Arc" nor anything from Dead Man will place.

I voted for a Dead Man track

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 July 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

I did as well, and I think they might be grouped together for tallying purposes too?

boxall, Monday, 9 July 2012 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

want to make a jpg of Game-era Freddie Mercury for a whaaaa? fake top 10 placing for "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" but I'll describe it instead to keep myself from being That Guy later on.

da croupier, Monday, 9 July 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

A Dead Man track was my final cut -- ALMOST snuck in at #30.

Neil Jung (WmC), Monday, 9 July 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

"Motion Pictures" crept up on me as one of his greats; if you've ever felt "I'm deep inside myself, but I'll get out somehow" then you've felt one deep core of Neil's animus.

Euler, Monday, 9 July 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

the two Trans tracks to place so far are great (voted for "Sample & Hold" but love both) & I reckon that's all that'll place; but Sonic Youth's take on "Computer Love" is tres epic & what helped me "get" Sonic Youth.

Euler, Monday, 9 July 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

I did as well, and I think they might be grouped together for tallying purposes too?

"organ solo" ftw

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 July 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

Only three songs for me ("Ordinary People", "Unknown Legend", and "Fuckin' Up").

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 9 July 2012 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

"Will to Love" was tied with 2 other songs for my #1. Such an amazing song. the part where he sings "I'm like a singer on the stage - With the golden lights - and liquid rage" and the other instruments briefly fade in and then out, swinging, gives me chills every time.

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Monday, 9 July 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

Placed six so far, a bunch that made my first cut but not my last one. Really pleased with the list so far.

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

funny, "Organ Solo" was my pick too.

boxall, Monday, 9 July 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

3/30 for me (Sample and Hold, Transformer Man, Broken Arrow). I assume everyone's hit rate will improve as the results continue.

recordbreaking transfer to Lucknow FC (seandalai), Monday, 9 July 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

Seconding Sonic Youth's take on "Computer Age" as well as Neil's fairly rockin' take of it on the Live In Berlin video.

hutlock, Monday, 9 July 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

did someone already post this? crazy horse version of "computer age" from 87
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfzZYLQM_lI

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

6/40 thus far (Don't Cry, Love In Mind, OTWH, Fuckin' Up, Will To Love, Lookout Joe) Kind of worried about the epics from Ragged Glory not placing--they were my most pleasant rediscoveries.

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 9 July 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link

Ok I hiked for 7.5 hours and pried like two dozen gnats out of my eyes but I'm finally reading this! Nice work so far!
Some thoughts:
1) lotta love was my #2 and I'm so glad it placed! So beautiful.
2) is it possible to include the song in text as well as the image? I can figure it out from comments/wait for rundown but I'm in the woods and on my phone and surely I'm not the only NY fan in this situation.
3) I'm genuinely glad NY love songs have encouraged more love in the universe. That's what they're there for. If I had to guess, my husband tolerates Neil Young because he likes me, fwiw. He's def not a fan (of Neil -- of me, yes)
4) Cortez is obvs winner, no?!?!?

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 9 July 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link

Powderfinger?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 July 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago) link

Also I LOVE "downtown" but didn't vote for it because I had already voted for so many songs from that album. I love the "aw huh huh huh they don't tell no lies" part so much.

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 9 July 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago) link

thought motion pictures and long may you run would be top 25 at least

iatee, Monday, 9 July 2012 22:47 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i did kinda think that the second side of OTB was a lock for top 25

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

everytime someone itt refers to "Downtown" i have to remind myself that they're not speaking glowingly of the mediocre Mirror Ball single

some dude, Monday, 9 July 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

and its glowing slap bass part

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 July 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i did kinda think that the second side of OTB was a lock for top 25

lol 2nd side is the side I skip

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 July 2012 22:54 (twelve years ago) link

get outta town. think [you should] get outta town.

tylerw, Monday, 9 July 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

happy I'm the ocean hasn't placed yet, rooting for top 25

iatee, Monday, 9 July 2012 22:56 (twelve years ago) link

Just to add to the list of "Birds" covers upthread: The Meters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1_o79K2KTE

Chris L, Monday, 9 July 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link

everytime someone itt refers to "Downtown" i have to remind myself that they're not speaking glowingly of the mediocre Mirror Ball single

AND A NOTE FROM PAGE!

actually never occurred to me until now that neil has two songs about going downtown. did he forget?

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 00:06 (twelve years ago) link

"Downtown" was also followed a year later by what may really be his most insipid single of the '90s, "This Town"

some dude, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 00:49 (twelve years ago) link

lol 2nd side is the side I skip

There are no words. I am baffled.

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 00:59 (twelve years ago) link

I had an old second hand vinyl copy of On The Beach - side 1 was fine, but side 2 was unplayable. I grabbed a CD version when it came out, but as a result I'm way more familiar with side 1 than side 2. Side 1 is great too - I'll be upset if Walk On, See The Sky About To Rain, and Revolution Blues don't all place.

funk79, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 01:12 (twelve years ago) link

damn, i used my itunes & last.fm to compile my ballot but forgot to look under buffalo springfield which is why expecting to fly didn't make my ballot, probably in my top 10 or 12

buzza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 01:19 (twelve years ago) link

Poll/thread/screencaps totally deliver! Only two of mine have placed so far, Fuckin' Up and Will To Love. The rest of my ballot is gonna be top 25 or already toast.

exclusive to this pledge group - pleasure (weatheringdaleson), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 04:52 (twelve years ago) link

looks like only one of mine has placed so far ("motion pictures"). expecting a whole bunch of my other choices to come flooding in though -- my ballot didn't show too much imagination in the end.

charlie h, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 05:08 (twelve years ago) link

4 of 30 in so far: The Old Laughing Lady, Birds, On the Way Home, and Long May You Run.

that's not my post, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 06:28 (twelve years ago) link

Two so far: Ordinary People and Will to Love.

I love these countdowns for the way they force me to focus on one artist I know well but not top-to-bottom. I don't care that much about what places where - I just like the discovery process.

Get wolves (DL), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 09:00 (twelve years ago) link

Same with me. I didn't think anything could get me listening to rough guitar rock again, but doing this has been an absolute joy.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 09:04 (twelve years ago) link

I'm glad I'm not the only one who voted for "Don't Cry". Though I fear I'm the only one who put "Opera Star" as high as I did!

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 09:06 (twelve years ago) link

8/30 so far.

I think this is the week I finally get 'round to buying Trans.

Jeff W, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 10:18 (twelve years ago) link

5/40: Fuckin Up, Crime in the City, Lookout Joe, Harvest, Birds

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 12:23 (twelve years ago) link

I'm at 3/40, and three more I almost voted for. Several I never would have voted for, which is what makes this exciting.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 12:30 (twelve years ago) link

Though I fear I'm the only one who put "Opera Star" as high as I did!

I voted for "Opera Star"!

cwkiii, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 12:53 (twelve years ago) link

4/30: Ordinary People, Lookout Joe, Look Out For My Love, Come On Baby, Let's Go Downtown

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 13:18 (twelve years ago) link

I'm waiting for a call to pick up my car, so I'm going to start a little earlier today--#50-26.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 13:48 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil50.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 13:49 (twelve years ago) link

The very essence of '70s mellow, Kris K.--to paraphrase Woody Allen, he achieved total mellowosity.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

I just realized with horror that nothing from TTN made my ballot.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 13:55 (twelve years ago) link

That might have been true of a very small number of voters...I'd have to check.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 13:56 (twelve years ago) link

I had this one, good way to start the day. Think it was my only TTN song, but would have to check.

grandavis, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link

To answer something posted since yesterday, any Dead Man votes were counted separately--voters were very specific about which track. But there were only two or three.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link

[Mod edit to remove technical weirdness]

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link

Oops.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link

I need some moderator help--when I try to re-post with the proper tags, it won't let me. Maybe delete the untagged post? Sorry.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:00 (twelve years ago) link

Game delayed on account of fuckin' up.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

Cool, I voted for Mellow My Mind and Harvest Moon!

recordbreaking transfer to Lucknow FC (seandalai), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:02 (twelve years ago) link

Was holding off on commenting until it was "official", but I woulda though HM would be much higher than this. Then you remember all of the other great songs still to come. Maybe the craziest rollout of any of these polls, should be really interesting.

grandavis, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

Harvest Moon kinda annoyed me when I saw it on MTV at the time. It was this rather lame sweet folky ballad, so chances are I wouldn't've wanted it anyway, but the look was so obviously of-the-moment (iirc it even had a Smells Like Teen Spirit janitor) that it seemed more like old man jumping on bandwagon than a king returning to his throne. A typical Neil perverse move might've provoked more respect.

Obviously now all that couldn't matter less.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:09 (twelve years ago) link

Yes--right now, #49 is only a rumour, wrapped in some gossip, inside an untagged URL.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil49.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

There we go.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:21 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks!...I'm indulging myself one family picture: that's my mom and dad in 1956. Not sure where they are.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:22 (twelve years ago) link

La Lechera and I both voted for "Mellow My Mind". It's awesome. La Lechera also voted for "Harvest Moon", which I agree is awesome but it was a very late cut for me.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

Pretty sure I didn't vote for anything off of "Tonight's the Night." Good record but overrated. May have voted for two off of "Harvest Moon," but neither of the singles.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:29 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil48.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

I love LA.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

I heard "Harest Moon" in a store last week maybe--I was a bit tipsy, but it sounded way more pretty and touching than it ever had before

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:31 (twelve years ago) link

I wish I'd been there...if you blow the photo up 10,000 times, I think you can spot Rodney Bingenheimer.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:31 (twelve years ago) link

Hey, L.A.! My first vote of the day to show

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

Harvest Moon kinda annoyed me when I saw it on MTV at the time. It was this rather lame sweet folky ballad, so chances are I wouldn't've wanted it anyway, but the look was so obviously of-the-moment (iirc it even had a Smells Like Teen Spirit janitor) that it seemed more like old man jumping on bandwagon than a king returning to his throne. A typical Neil perverse move might've provoked more respect.

Obviously now all that couldn't matter less.

― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:09 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark

as a grunge kid watching MTV at the time and just becoming familiar with NY this is a hilarious notion to me -- the "Harvest Moon" video seemed like this anachronistic thing that belonged on a country video countdown, and i wouldn't have dreamed of the guy sweeping a broom as a musical instrument being a nod to "Teen Spirit." of course, within a year he was onstage with Pearl Jam at the VMAs and i was like ok i guess this guy is cool.

some dude, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:34 (twelve years ago) link

I'm trying to remember my first exposure to Neil Young. Obv a lot of it had to do with the big orange book, but I seem to remember it was that I was reading about Dino Jr./J Mascis, without having heard them much if at all, and the constant comparison to Neil's guitar style is what made me steal my stepdad's cassette copy of Everybody Knows. Even then, I was still perplexed, and Harvest (which I hated) didn't help. Things didnt fall into place for me until I bought a copy of Rust, which blew me away immediately...

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:39 (twelve years ago) link

What is "the big orange book"? Is this some secret Neil document I don't know about?

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil47.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

"The Loner" took a while to get going--almost no votes initially, then they started to come in midway. Putting aside Buffalo Springfield for a second, I view it like Scorsese's Who's That Knocking at My Door?: an early indication that this guy was unique and major.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

I'd also include it with Husker Du's "Diane" and "Riders on the Storm" as one of the spookiest serial-killer songs, even though Neil only hints that that might be what it's about.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

The Loner is great. I kind of wish I had voted for it.

big orange book = this. It's how I got into non-mainstream music for lack of a better term. one of those things that defined my adolescence

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

surprised that the last two placed so high -- like 'em, didn't think they were favorites. probably prefer the "live rust" loner to the s/t. those twin guitar lines are sweet.

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

That's funny--being older, for me it's the big red book and the big white book.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil46.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

I also had nothing from TTN, but thought I'd be the only one. Of his canonical albums, it's the one I came to last and it has never quite sunk its hooks into me -- probably just need to listen to it more.

xpost: ah, "See the Sky." Love it. Bumped a few Big Classics to sneak it onto the bottom of my ballot.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:57 (twelve years ago) link

Nothing to say about this one myself, other than surprise that it finished so high.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 14:58 (twelve years ago) link

yeah today's list has all been "songs off great albums i never would have thought of voting for"

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

actually can't even say great albums for s/t and harvest moon

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

I think "The Loner" has outlasted its album, though--still gets played on the radio, at least up here.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil45.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

yaaaaay faith restored, though i thought this'd be higher!

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

read somewhere that rick rubin once had to pull off the road when this song came on to cry, where's their collabo

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago) link

Another surprise to me, although Gold Rush is so brilliant, it was maybe inevitable that what I consider its weakest song would draw support.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

love how this song has such an affirmative/positive title, but the lyrics are anything but

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

"See The Sky" has one of my favorite electric piano lines in all rock.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

I thought about voting for "Loner" for sure, and "LA" is amazing; I think a lot of the prettier melodies on Time Fades Away probably could go toe to toe with stuff on Gold Rush; it's just that that particular live album is like the worst possible context for them--"Love in Mind" and "The Bridge" almost sound like interludes (same with "Sweet Joni" now that I think about it; he seemed to have a real almost fragmentary, or even haiku-like, approach to the ballad at that time) and "L.A." which is probably as good as "Don't Let It Bring You Down" comes off as way more sketchy and abrasive (which actually enhances its gripe-litany lyrics)

"I Believe in You" is my first top ten track to place. Incredible

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

If I could've brought myself to rank my ballot, "I Believe in You" would've been my #1 I think.

boxall, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

Rick Rubin otm

boxall, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

Wow--just not hearing what the rest of you hear.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

"A blissful feeling came over me, and I had to actually pull over my car onto the side of the road because I couldn't drive while experiencing this. Just from the effect the music had on me--it was somehow related to the sensation of dying. It felt like my heart stopped. It wasn't a bad feeling. I don't know if it was going out of my body, but I didn't feel myself leaving my body. I don't how to explain it other than a real feeling of bliss. It was really a great magical feeling. I don't know why I'm somehow relating it to death, but it had some kind of death overtone in it. It was a really positive feeling."

boxall, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

weird, this song dropped out of my itunes library at some point so i forgot about it but totally would have it top 20

buzza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

a gift:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k--EF7cZmw

she butchers the best hook though imo

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

Rick Rubin? (xxpost) That's like Greil Marcus pulling over to the side of the road when he heard "Papa Was a Rollin' Stone" for the first time.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

Songs Famous People Claim To Have Needed To Pull Their Car To The Side Of The Road After Hearing

cwkiii, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil44.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know why but of all the harmonies on ATGR, it's the chorus of "I Believe in You" I find the most affecting - I think it might be the really simple piano line.

boxall, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

Old photo--don't go looking for that gas station.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, did not expect "Sedan Delivery" at this point.

cwkiii, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:15 (twelve years ago) link

sedan delivery, so great. i sort of imagine neil having written this song after someone described the concept of punk rock to him. i doubt neil really listened to a great deal punk rock, but he understood.
also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5akaznulK8

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

I voted for "Sedan Delivery" - was thinking especially of the version off Live Rust.

boxall, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link

yeah I was hoping for higher. This song just missed my top 10 iirc

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link

Used to love it. In 1979, I tried to convince my punk-loving friend Peter that it sounded exactly like punk rock. I had no idea what I was talking about.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link

The words of "I Believe In You" are so direct and moving, especially when compared to something like "Tell Me Why" off the same album. Not that I don't love TMW, but I seem to recall a quote from NY to the effect that he stopped playing it live, cos he didn't know what the lyrics were supposed

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

I voted for "Sedan Delivery" and La Lechera voted for "See The Sky Is About To Rain". Happy to say neither of us voted for "I Believe In You". Too treacly for my taste.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

Pretty sure I didn't vote for anything off of "Tonight's the Night." Good record but overrated.

Agreed. My first Neil Young record -- and I was disappointed. Still, I voted for two cuts off of it.

Harvest Moon kinda annoyed me when I saw it on MTV at the time. It was this rather lame sweet folky ballad, so chances are I wouldn't've wanted it anyway, but the look was so obviously of-the-moment (iirc it even had a Smells Like Teen Spirit janitor) that it seemed more like old man jumping on bandwagon than a king returning to his throne. A typical Neil perverse move might've provoked more respect.

I voted for it entirely because of this solo performance Neil did on SNL:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbj6fl_neil-young-harvest-moon-live-snl-ne_music

"See The Sky" has one of my favorite electric piano lines in all rock.

Likewise, the Massey (or is it Fillmore?) take referenced in the other thread convinced me to put this one here. Neil solo live seems to up the intimacy level for me.

I didn't vote for "The Loner" -- but the Live Rust take is killer.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil43.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, the electric version comes later, at which point I'll post what they would have gotten combined.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

while i restrained myself from loading my ballot with Rust, it's the one album where I won't be like "christ, did you guys vote for EVERYTHING on it?" cuz I probably could've too.

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:25 (twelve years ago) link

I'd rather listen to "My My, Hey Hey" these days--the electric is overplayed on the local station, and I always like the guy who screams out "wooooo!" at Johnny Rotten's name.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, never would have voted for "I Believe In You." Always makes me think of "Killing Me Softly." "Sedan Delivery" ... I love nuts Neil, but I wanted to save room for other stuff.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

Sedan and On the Beach were tied with the most songs on my ballot

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

not Sedan, Rust Never Sleeps

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

Like "Rockin'," love the acoustic and electric versions equally. Also love the notion of bookending an album with acoustic and live versions of the same song.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

I wish the Stooges had done that with "Down in the Street."

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil42.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

First Zuma song to place, I think...great opener.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

more of my votes appearing in the lower echelons here - LA ("City in the smog! City in the smog! Don't you wish that you could be here too" = lol), "I Believe in You", "Harvest Moon", "Don't Cry No Tears"

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

From La Lechera: "Don't Cry No Tears"  - true love ain't too hard to see

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

Yes! "Don't Cry No Tears" --> "Danger Bird" = one of the best one-two punches in his catalog.

cwkiii, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

wish the Stooges had done that with "Down in the Street."

goggling at this. how would that work?

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

This was easily one of the first songs on my ballot. Great riff, and I find the lyrics or the way Neil sings them really unnerving, almost scary.

boxall, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, the guitar sound on Zuma. the best guitar sound ever. love the super early version of this that showed up on the archives, too.

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

Kidding about the Stooges. (Is goggling like googling?)

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

"There's nothing I can say / To make him go away" - seriously makes me shudder whenever I'm thinking about a failed relationship.

boxall, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

goggling is like this -> o_0

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

Forgot about the rough sketch on Archives--was amazed hearing that for the first time. What's it called again, Tyler?

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

"I Wonder"

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

Can't remember if I picked "Don't Cry No Tears," but I know I almost did! It's like the perfect bar-band no rehearsal cover song choice.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil41.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

Oh man.

cwkiii, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

Love this song so, so much.

cwkiii, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

I'm beginning to think either virtually all of my songs will place, or only half of them. So far, only three or four have shown up.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

I've mentioned seeing that Toronto show in 1978. Something I didn't realize: not only would the Rust Never Sleeps songs that he played be new to me, so would anything from Comes a Time. The show was Oct. 1, Comes a Time was released Oct. 2.

Was hoping to find a clip of "I Wonder," but no luck.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, doesn't seem to be on youtube! lame-o.
it is crazy that the Rust tour was essentially in support of Comes A Time... surprise!

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

Try this--again, amazing:

http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/I+Wonder/2zgZGQ?src=5

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

ha, there it is, yeah, so nice. awesome that 10 years later he was like, hmm, yeah *that* song.

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

"Comes a Time" is a great song. I just heard that album for the first time within the last week. That song is my favorite; there's something about the way that chorus ends

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

Love imagining "Don't Cry No Tears" being played by guys who look like this:

http://www.ucheritagemuseum.com/images/content/the%20shadows%20james%20murphy,%20nicky%20hall%201960s%20new%20albany.jpg

(Not the Squires.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil40.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

love comes a time (though i may not have voted for it). amazing that 10+ years into his career, neil wrote a song like that, which is like the archetypal neil young song. don't think any of his peers were capable of that.

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

Checking in late. Love See the Sky - placed it very high. Just after filing my ballot at the weekend I walked into a book shop to get out of the rain and they were playing the Massey Hall album and this track had just started. It was such weird, beautiful timing.

Also love Comes a Time - a friend wanted it at his wedding but his wife vetoed it. Boo.

Re: first becoming aware of NY, another friend said his first encounter was seeing Computer Age on a British TV show and assuming he was "Depeche Mode's grandad or something".

Get wolves (DL), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

"Out On The Weekend" is such a great opener. Neil did a great job sequencing those 70s albums.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

love the bell-like pedal steel from ben keith on this track.

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

"Think I'll pack it in and buy a pick-up/Take it down to L.A."--love that line.

Had something similar happen on the weekend. The record kiosk at the flea market I always go to had Harvest on. (Almost solicited a list from the clerk.) "Alabama" was playing when I got there, but the power went wonky and the CD re-started from the beginning.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

I know I hinted at this yesterday with "Birds", but is anyone else having a really hard time grasping the fact that we are still so low in this countdown and are being actively bombarded with all time classic shit that would be in pretty much any other artist's top 3? Who knows, maybe I just love this dude way too much...

cwkiii, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

Glad to say we had two Bens and one Bruce vote in this poll. Also one of the Pet Shop Boys.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

The Beatles, Rolling Stones, and Led Zeppelin polls were similar. (xpost)

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

"Bell-like" is a great description for that sound, it's gorgeous. Didn't vote for anything from Harvest but would've picked this or Are You Ready for the Country.

boxall, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil39.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

Very high on my own ballot, thought it would be higher overall. Such a brilliant song.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:06 (twelve years ago) link

Is Neil Young the only act of his vintage who would surprise no one by dropping a total masterpiece next week? (Besides Dylan, that is?)

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

Both La Lechera and I tipped points toward "Barstool Blues". I can't think of a higher compliment than that it puts me in the mood to listen to it whenever it comes on. Not a lot of songs work that way for me.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

For me, Neil might release a masterpiece next week, Dylan can't--not unless he goes back to singing like he did in 1966 (or at least in 1974). But I know hardly anyone agrees, and a separate thread anyway.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

nah I agree with you, Dylan's voice is shot.

otoh I consider his Xmas album a masterpiece sooooo

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

Dylan's voice is shot, but he's released a couple of classic shot-voice records already.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil38.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

I'm seeing a movie tonight with a friend--think I may look back on that as a big mistake one day, missing the Trout/Harper All-Star Game.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

Ah, here's one I voted for. Let the deluge begin!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

Barstool Blues. Another doozy. Norah Jones weighed in on it in Rolling Stone.

3.
"Barstool Blues" | Neil Young, 1975
I remember being with friends at the beach, all singing this at the top of our lungs. We put it on repeat. I don't think I ever had so much fun.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

Is that CNE Stadium? (the image)

xxxpost

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

for the turnstiles is unbelievable, such a great lyric that probably took neil an hour to write.

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

No, just some random minor-league park.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

"For The Turnstiles" is the first of my top 10 to make it. Such a killer.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

for the turnstiles - RIP Ben Keith

cool list!

i wonder if "hitchhiker" from le noise isn't going to make it? :(

that was on my list but lots of heavyweights have to be coming up.

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil37.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

"Barstool" was my #3. Surprised to see it kinda low; thought it'd be a lock for the top 10.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

I've never heard Mirror Ball.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

I love this so much. My no.2 in the end (and nearly displaced by another Mirror Ball cut).

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

I like "I'm the Ocean" fine, but one day you'll all agree with me that "Scenery" is Mirror Ball's masterpiece. (Presently, zero people agree with me.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

I'm a firm believer that Mirror Ball has no masterpieces.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

I have a lot of fond memories of listening to my vinyl copy of On the Beach over and over while reading Inherent Vice by Thomas Pynchon, def has that same sort of sad end of the 60s, stoned out vibe

OK like I'm the Ocean is a good song and all but goddamn I cannot believe it just placed higher than a bunch of Zuma and On the Beach big-timers

some dude? did you only vote for one song?

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

Mirror Ball was the first Neil Young album I ever owned and, yes, it was 100% due to the Pearl Jam thing. But immediately after I raided my dad's vinyl to hear the Neil he had and it was all over from there. Anyway, I'll always have a soft spot for that one.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

"I'm The Ocean" is the most moving song he did in the 90s, imo. he's written a ton of epics, but none of them rage that long, seem like the band might plow over Neil if he doesn't keep up

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

I thought I'm The Ocean would crack the top ten. Or at least be the highest-charting song from his last 20 years.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

i gotta feeling this still might be the highest-charting song from his last 20 years (clemenza, keep yo mouth shut either way - no spoilers!)

it's funny that he was dropping lines like "People my age, they don't do the things I do" in 1995 and now there's almost another 20 years on the odometer

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

I like "Downtown," too--enough hippie nostalgia to appall hippie-haters everywhere.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

xxxpost

ragged glory was 1990 dawg

even though 90 isn't like a "real 90s" year

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

OK like I'm the Ocean is a good song and all but goddamn I cannot believe it just placed higher than a bunch of Zuma and On the Beach big-timers

otm

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil36.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

You have to look closely for the little Danger Bird.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

at least i'm the ocean didn't place above this

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

Voted for Barstool & Turnstiles--Turnstiles was my #4. That song, Uncle Tupelo's cover of CCR's Effigy, and the Fall's Disneys Dream Debased were the closing trifecta on every mix CD I made for a long while

Didn't clem say #37 was the highest charting position for post-Rust in the voting thread?

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

listening to "Revolution Blues" now....I think the Laurel Canyon killing part overshadows the lyrics that come just before

I got the revolution blues,
I see bloody fountains,
And ten million dune buggies
comin' down the mountain

^in bold maybe my single favorite image in the history of american songwriting, outside of "the sadness of a falling star lights up a purple sky" by hank williams

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

Well. I don't particularly care for Danger Bird, but I thought everybody else would.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

OK like I'm the Ocean is a good song and all but goddamn I cannot believe it just placed higher than a bunch of Zuma and On the Beach big-timers

oh no there's only going to be 30+ songs from the 70s higher boo hoo

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

I tried listening to "I'm the Ocean," and I almost made it all the way through, but Jack Irons is so monochromatically ham-fisted that I gave up. His playing actually made me angry.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

From La Lechera: "Danger Bird"  - this song is perfect in every way

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

xpost as opposed to the technicolor spryness of Ralph Molina?

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

I tried listening to "I'm the Ocean," and I almost made it all the way through, but Jack Irons is so monochromatically ham-fisted that I gave up. His playing actually made me angry

the track is supposed to sound like an ocean!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

Ralph is so much better than Irons, the unswinginging-ous drummer ever. At least Molina is sometimes accidentally spry!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

^in bold maybe my single favorite image in the history of american songwriting, outside of "the sadness of a falling star lights up a purple sky" by hank williams

agreed. When David Crosby said playing on the song frightened him or some shit I don't know if he's lying or he's sad sack of shit. The song isn't frightening at all; it's unsettling, in part because it's got these perfect images that don't cohere.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

I guess Song X probably isn't going to make it now, but it's a real belter too

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

Jack Irons is so monochromatically ham-fisted that I gave up. His playing actually made me angry

the track is supposed to sound like an ocean!

I'm imagining an ocean of ham, with crispy bacon fat froth on the waves of prosciutto.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

Ralph is so much better than Irons, the unswinginging-ous drummer ever. At least Molina is sometimes accidentally spry!

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, July 10, 2012 12:40 PM (59 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, this. Irons sounds like he has a post-it in front of him that says REMEMBER TO HIT THE CRASH CYMBAL ON "1" EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

I'd never heard I'm the Ocean before the voting thread but damn it's great - one of his best verbose, repetitive songs. "People my age/They don't do the things I do."

I have a lot of fond memories of listening to my vinyl copy of On the Beach over and over while reading Inherent Vice by Thomas Pynchon

Sentences like this make me feel a sudden need to send my family away for a long weekend.

Get wolves (DL), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

I just thought Crosby regarded the Manson impersonation as bad karma

Anyways Barstool Blues and Danger Bird showing up causes me to despair for my favorite song off Zuma's chances of showing up

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

I guess we're not indicating #1 votes? Not a complaint, just an observation.

Anyway, yeah, "Danger Bird" was my number one. Such a perfect fucking tune.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

<i>OK like I'm the Ocean is a good song and all but goddamn I cannot believe it just placed higher than a bunch of Zuma and On the Beach big-timers

oh no there's only going to be 30+ songs from the 70s higher boo hoo

― da croupier, Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:37 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink</i>

for me, if i would have bothered to rank my list, like barstool blues and for the turnstiles and etc would all have been top 10

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

Mmmmmmmmm....ocean of ham.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

imagine Lou Reed giving "Danger Bird" the "Foot of Pride" treatment.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

I'll indicate #1s at the end--as I said upthread, the majority of ballots were unranked.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil35.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

neil was probably the first of his friends to write songs about how painfully old he is and the first of his friends to be crowing about how he'll be young and crazy forever

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

The ultimate boomer?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

Ha ha. Quite.

Get wolves (DL), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

"oh my god how i miss amusement parks and candy corn"

ten years later

"eat a peach, fat-asses! i'm a-go hang out with devo!"

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

I'll indicate #1s at the end--as I said upthread, the majority of ballots were unranked.

Oh, I missed that one, sorry. Like I said, not complaining, you are doing an A+++ job thus far.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks. There were also people who numbered their lists but didn't allocate points--I'm not really sure if their #1 is in fact #1.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

Thrasher is another top 10. So so awesome

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil34.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

it's gonna be weird when neil drops Time Fades Away II - same songs, different performances!

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

OK like I'm the Ocean is a good song and all but goddamn I cannot believe it just placed higher than a bunch of Zuma and On the Beach big-timers

some dude? did you only vote for one song?

― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, July 10, 2012 12:27 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark

i had 35 songs on my ballot and "I'm The Ocean" was at #25 with the minimum number of points fyi

Jack Irons is awesome on Pearl Jam albums but i don't feel like he's really at his best on Mirror Ball

some dude, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

"Thrasher" is textbook example of good lyric writing.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

Time Fades Away is sensational, my no.3

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

"Time Fades Away" is the second of my top 10 to place. Great song, great performance.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

Possibly my all-time favorite vocal of his.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

You know, I bet if you took the best songs from Broken Arrow and the best from Mirror Ball with a little bit of Dead Man you could make a pretty great 95-96 patchwork

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

Take a look at a bit of this video if you get a chance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0df4vyeFhEo

It's footage shot in my hometown (Georgetown, Ontario) during the mid-'70s. Somebody put a series of them up a couple of years ago--that's where the image comes from. They're just so perfect in capturing how Time Fades Away and "Ambulance Blues" affected me at the time. Difficult to explain.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

Alfred otm re Thrasher's lyrics

voted for Time Fades Away as well

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil33.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

"Winterlong" really came out of nowhere on the second half of ballots to arrive. (The Pixies' cover got a vote too.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

I like Winterlong but have never understood effusive praise for it, like when Frank Black says it's the best song the Pixies ever did

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

I'm basically with you--exciting when it showed up on Decade, but it's lost something over the years for me.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

"Winterlong" is very good but I never thought it would finish this high.

cwkiii, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

Eric Weisbard said it sounded like peak Big Star but I don't hear it.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, I missed a lot. Meetings suck. Very surprised at some of these results, but cool nonetheless. Think "I'm The Ocean" is some kinda age thing. I had not time for that record when it came out, I had other fish to fry, and it still doesn't really compute with me, but if I had been younger and more in thrall of the moment I might have seen it differently, who knows. I have never made it to the end of the song.

Also consider "Winterlong" cool but not a heavyweight, can't see it this high either.

grandavis, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

that "come back now, come back now" is pretty alex chilton

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

I'm far from a Big Star expert, but I don't really hear them in "Winterlong."

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

I do love the "come back now, come back now whoaoa" part for sure.

grandavis, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

"Barstool Blues" or "Lookin' For a Girl" are closer.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

i can kinda hear the big star comparison in "Winterlong"s solo. beautiful tune (esp. on the fillmore disc w/ whitten). always seemed like a girl group should've covered winterlong, you know, with the be my baby bit there towards the end.

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

"Love," Alfred, "Love."

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i'd never think of comparing "winterlong" and big star myself, but it's a yearning, mega-melodic 70s song with some lurch and crunchy guitar, not an offensive stretch

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil32.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

my #1

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

No one indicated "Trans version," so all votes went to Buffalo Springfield.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, hello

buzza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

I was oblivious to the fairly obvious "Satisfaction" rip until I read Shakey.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

original's the best, imo. neil's said he wanted to mix the stones with dylan and he never did it better than here. if the fifth best song on a 70s album shows up in front of this, i'm gonna be a butt, sorry in advance.

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

Did I goof, buzza? Hope not.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

always seemed like a girl group should've covered winterlong, you know, with the be my baby bit there towards the end.

oh wow. LIke Emmylou-Dolly-Linda?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

No, just quoting the opening of the song

buzza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

woah that ontario footage + amublance blues on spotify is taking me to a weird place

fwiw i like "i'm the ocean" and had it on my ballot

mr. soul is great....the Archives Mono version is rough sounding but SO MUCH better

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

xp no, like the ronettes. though emmylou-dolly-linda would be nice too.

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

this doesn't come up a lot as something a lot of people saw on tv that blew their minds, but i'm envious of anyone who was first introduced to neil by this tv appearance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEqLh4-Ouck

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

Sideburns HOF.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

"is it strange i should change? i don't know, why don't you ask her." might be my favorite last line of a song ever

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

it just doesn't get more idgaf than that

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil31.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

megaclassic guitar riffage!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

"Walk On" was my number 3. Love it to pieces.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

some get stoned/
some get strange

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

"some get strange" = how perfect is this line?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

Apologies if you voted for it, but this one I don't get at all. As I've mentioned many times, I'm not as big on On the Beach as most people, "Ambulance Blues" excepted. But as an album, rather than song by song, I get the appeal--I used to play it constantly myself. But "Walk On" doesn't even work for me in the context of the album. It just seems like this half-speed nothing of a song.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

feel like when walk on came out all of of neil's friends must've been like "oh man, does he mean me?! he totally means me!" and then sunk into a deep depression.

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

Cool clip. Who was that Hollywood Palace host? I don't recognize him.

Neil Jung (WmC), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

"Walk on" has a bit of the power pop feel to it as well, though that and "Barstool Blues" placed on my ballot in the mid-twenties and "Winterlong was top 10.

I always heard "Walk On" was Neil's answer to "Sweet Home Alabama"

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

"Winterlong" probably is the best song the Pixies did; but imo that doesn't put it in Neil's top 50..... ;-)

theStalePrince, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

i think sweet home alabama came out after walk on.

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

haha i was gonna make that joke but i actually love the pixies

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

From what I've read, he was responding to some press criticism of a recent tour.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil30.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

^ my #1

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

La Lechera and I both voted for "When You Dance I Can Really Love". There are days when it's my favorite Neil song.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

with you 100% on "Walk On," Clemenza; if "Vampire Blues" shows up I'm really gonna lose my shit.

theStalePrince, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

haha even the biggest on the beach stan couldn't put vampire blues on a top 40 neil songs list

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

Band of Outsiders!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

"When You Dance I Can Really Love" was one of my two #1s.

cwkiii, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

"When You Dance," "Downtown," and "Barstool Blues" are his greatest jangle of the decade for me.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

love the Pixies too--hmmm, maybe "Head On" is better than "Winterlong"?

theStalePrince, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

"When You Dance"--great great song, but it never quite lives up to its own guitar sound for me....

theStalePrince, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

The Band of Outsiders jukebox scene is so good.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

Walk On comes in surprisingly low. I thought that was top ten fer sure

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

xpost Both Pixies Neil Young covers are awesome, and tbh probably introduced me to early Young at the time.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

I probably have it, but refresh my memory--what's the other one?

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

Hah, don't understand not liking "Walk On". What a gem of a song, so many things going on in such a short amount of time.

grandavis, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

Like many of Neil's songs, the band does not know the song at all on the album version, but one of my favorite things about that particular recording is Jack Nitzsche on piano, just listening to him sorta figuring it out as he goes, slowly gaining confidence and then exploding.

cwkiii, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link

("When You Dance I Can Really Love", that is)

cwkiii, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link

"Walk On" helped me through some heady shit back in the day. I can't separate the strength I took from it to judge it in any sort of subjective way.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

The secret weapon on "When You Dance..." is Jack Nitzsche. xpost

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil29.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

I feel like most of the song, the one-chord banging on the piano is Jack going "fuck you, Neil" over and over again, and I can't tell if those runs at the end are inspiration or exasperation.

cwkiii, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, to turn and see her smile.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_JZLns6OGE

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't vote for "Vampire Blues" but I will rep for it, just a simple, menacing, slightly weird-sounding blues, and because of it you can put on side 2 of OTB for non-Neil people without scaring them off. By the time the closing trio of songs hit, they're powerless to object.

boxall, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks--just checked, and I do have it.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

"Sugar Mountain"! Not only my introduction to Neil Young, but one of my earliest memories is watching this song on my dad's copy of Rust Never Sleeps on RCS Selectavision Videodisc. So happy to see it here!

cwkiii, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

love "sugar mountain," but has any singer beat Neil's "omg i'm 20!!!" in the unearned youth mourning department? Mark Kozelek started at "24", does Conor Oberst have some "dear god I'm old enough to vote" ballad?

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

on the real, "sugar mountain" is my least favorite of the canonical neil songs

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

When "Sugar Mountain" turned up on Decade, I was positive I'd heard it before, so it must have gotten some radio airplay around here.

has any singer beat Neil's "omg i'm 20!!!" in the unearned youth mourning department?

Sinead O'Connor comes close on "Emperor's New Clothes."

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

actually sinead suggests that at 21 she's too young to know what she wants, not too old to have fun

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

Britney doing "Not a Girl, Not Yet a Woman" or whatever?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not good with voices on a phone, so--after one friend got tired of me asking "Who's calling?"--we worked out a thing where he says "Sugar Mountain, Sugar Mountain" right away and I know it's him.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil28.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

i think sugar mountain was the b-side to cinnamon girl? am i making that up?

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, I am surprised at all the love for "Maid."

boxall, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

I would so love to have been a sensitive singer-songwriter in the early '70s. Go see a film, fall in love with the actress, make a couple of calls, marry her.

B-side to "The Loner" originally--and worth some money, according to my record guide.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

repeated as b-side to "cinnamon Girl" too.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

http://ring.cdandlp.com/rareandmintrecords/photo_grande/114973135.png

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

btw for whatever reason i realized i never heard Prairie Wind, or at least not all of it

listening now

"I'll never forgot what Chris Rock said" wtf

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

xp too bad there's not actually an insane crazy horse rave-up of sugar mountain.

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, I'd love to have that picture sleeve. The guide has "The Loner" 7-inch (Reprise 0785) as '68, the "Cinnamon Girl" 7-inch (Reprise 0911) as '70--and he used it again on the flip of "Heart of Gold"!

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

I have that single (w/the weird mono mix topside)! But not the picture sleeve.

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil27.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

Haven't been there, but that's downtown Winnipeg circa 1955.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

that can't be '55, that truck is a '63 at earliest.

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

Really? Pretty sure I searched "Winnipeg 1950s"...the internet, caught in a lie.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

TOO LOW! such a great, raw vocal...

theStalePrince, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

Winnipeg: Home of the Time-Travelling Truck

cwkiii, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah amazing song. I have a live solo version (tagged 1973 in London, I must have got it from Tyler's blog?) that's especially powerful, complete with heartfelt dedication to Danny Whitten.

boxall, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

Not solo, just very stripped-down, I think I meant.

boxall, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

I'm joking around, but I am amazed/impressed by some people's ability to call the year on a car instantaneously. My dad was like that.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

Years ago, my band played the basement of some stripclub/dive-bar in Winnipeg, in November. It was snowing lightly and pretty desolate. Some guy requested the Doors, and when we didn't accommodate offered to take the stage and play it for us. That night there was a man passed out in the hall that blocked our hotel room door.

The next day we met a local for breakfast, and she took us by Neil Young's high school. I wonder if I still have the picture ... ?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

With me it's like, "Wheels, doors...yep, that's a car all right." Please post if you can find the picture!

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

One more for today, the rest tomorrow. I'll probably start sometime around 10:00.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil26.jpg

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

"Old Man" and "Sugar Mountain" should've been a double a-side

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

My favourite old-man film.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

Wow. "old Man" makes 5 of my top 10 showing up today. Seems a bit low, but I figure it has Harvest fatigue.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

Years ago, my band played the basement of some stripclub/dive-bar in Winnipeg, in November. It was snowing lightly and pretty desolate. Some guy requested the Doors, and when we didn't accommodate offered to take the stage and play it for us. That night there was a man passed out in the hall that blocked our hotel room door.

The next day we met a local for breakfast, and she took us by Neil Young's high school. I wonder if I still have the picture ... ?

Weird, a band I used to sit in with had a bunch of slightly-scary Winnipeg touring stories. Apparently it was a regular tour stop for them.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

Where we're at:

75. “Ordinary People” (7 votes/68 points)
74. “Don’t Cry” (7/71)
73. “Cocaine Eyes” (8/71)
72. “Sample and Hold” (8/77)
71. “Transformer Man” (7/78)
70. “Words (Between the Lines of Age)” (9/78)
69. “The Old Laughing Lady” (8/84)
68. “Love in Mind” (11/89)
67. “Philadelphia” (9/93)
66. “Fuckin’ Up” (12/93)
65. “Southern Man” (10/95)
64. “Crime in the City (Sixty to Zero Part I)” (10/96)
63. “Broken Arrow” (11/96)
62. “Harvest” (11/97)
61. “Lotta Love” (13/97)
60. “I Am a Child” (12/99)
59. “Lookout Joe” (11/104)
58. “Look Out for My Love” (12/104)
57. “Unknown Legend” (11/108)
56. “Come on Baby Let’s Go Downtown” (11/110)
55. “On the Way Home” (9/115)
54. “Birds” (12/117)
53. “Motion Pictures” (13/126)
52. “Long May You Run” (13/129)
51. “Will to Love” (13/132)
50. “Mellow My Mind” (15/132)
49. “Harvest Moon” (15/135)
48. “L.A.” (14/137)
47. “The Loner” (16/143)
46. “See the Sky About to Rain” (16/148)
45. “I Believe in You” (17/149)
44. “Sedan Delivery” (18/156)
43. “My My, Hey Hey (Out of the Blue)” (16/162)
42. “Don’t Cry No Tears” (19/162)
41. “Comes a Time” (18/164)
40. “Out on the Weekend” (17/167)
39. “Barstool Blues” (19/168)
38. “For the Turnstiles” (20/169)
37. “I’m the Ocean” (22/188)
36. “Danger Bird” (18/189)
35. “Thrasher” (20/189)
34. “Time Fades Away” (18/190)
33. “Winterlong” (19/194)
32. “Mr. Soul” (19/195)
31. “Walk On” (15/196)
30. “When You Dance I Can Really Love” (17/197)
29. “Sugar Mountain” (20/197)
28. “A Man Needs a Maid” (20/198)
27. “Don’t Be Denied” (21/220)
26. “Old Man” (24/237)

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

20/40 for me thus far

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

With me it's like, "Wheels, doors...yep, that's a car all right." Please post if you can find the picture!

http://www.adclassix.com/images/63chevpickups.jpg

My cousin used to have a '64. He lived in deep south Austin, and used to joke that when he had it (early '80s), it was considered a new truck around those parts.

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

Another 8/30 in today's batch. Expecting 8 more tomorrow max (and a few surprises by the looks of it).

Jeff W, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

I believe you, C. Grissom--I meant for Josh to post his Winnipeg picture. I think Neil's probably one of those people who knows yearly car models thoroughly.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

9/30 - the Archive-heavy bottom section of my ballot is a goner.

Get wolves (DL), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

believe you, C. Grissom

I believe IN you

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

Hmm, 18 of 40 for me. Certainly some favorites are not going to crack the top 25 for me. Granted, I like some odd Neil songs, but still, hoping a few of the strange ones show up and more obvious ones don't. Gonna be a cool top 25 I think.

grandavis, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

"oh my god how i miss amusement parks and candy corn"

ten years later

"eat a peach, fat-asses! i'm a-go hang out with devo!"

― da croupier, Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:50 AM (1 hour ago)

Highly underrated post, needs more luv.

Neil Jung (WmC), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

I've only landed 6 of 20 so far, I'll consider myself lucky if I get to 50%.

boxall, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

12/30 for me. I'm guessing another 11 or so will show up by the end. Lots of classics on my ballot.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

I've only had 6 of 40 so far. Obviously I'll have a number show up tomorrow, but I imagine my ballot would be towards the bottom, percentage-wise, in terms of placing songs on the list.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

Playing catchup:

"Thrasher" -- I love this song, and also the whole '70s mini-genre of "I'm done with all that stuff" that a lot of '60s dudes did. Lots of Blood on the Tracks is like that, Lennon's "God," "Solsbury Hill," etc.

"Winterlong" -- Love this, like I said on the voting thread. The Ronettes comment is otm, it's basically Neil's Phil Spector song. (The Ramones stole the verse melody for "Bye Bye Baby," but probably not on purpose.)

"Walk On" -- My #2. I love it on its own, as this sort of weathered-but-sprightly affirmation, and some great axiomatic lines ("sooner or later, it all gets real"). But I also love it in context, as the opener on an album that feels like a walk away from things. It's kind of a mission statement for the record.

"Old Man" -- Here's where I get to be grumpy. Never liked this, it's one of the few songs where I understand complaints about his whiny voice. I know the song is aiming for empathy, but it reads as solipsism to me.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, and I voted for "Sugar Mountain," too, it's sweet and nails that end-of-the-'60s thing without being too maudlin.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

11/32 so far

The worst thing about this poll is that it made me realize that I heard all the Buffalo Springfield stuff before I heard any solo Neil -- i.e., I am very old.

Brad C., Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

Old man, take a look at this poll.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

I think Neil's probably one of those people who knows yearly car models thoroughly.

Yeah, he'd appreciate any vehicle discussion.

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

I saw the Buffalo Springfield reunion show at Bonnaroo last year, it was fine but the volume was too low. It was sort of poignant to be in a field full of 20-somethings shouting "TURN IT UP" at the 60-somethings on stage.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

"Don't Be Denied" was my #1. I know (from Shakey) that song was written on the day of Whitten's death.

h8 "Old Man". Hope "Heart of Gold" places tho.

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

I had "Don't Be Denied" next to "Hitchhiker" on my ballot. The latter is like Part II: The Drug Years.

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

12/30 so far.

I can think of 20 obvious songs that are sure to place. Which leaves a few good mystery songs.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

h8 Old Man too. My most cringey moment ever was being treated by a drunken colleague to an acapella version, complete with air guitar and teary eulogy to his dad, with colleagues in the bar at my first-ever work Christmas night out. I'd wager I was the only other person there who knew the song.

The guy in question is now a mid-ranking partner with the same firm and boasts a ftse100 company as his big client.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

wow, that sounds awkward.
i voted for old man, tho, i like when the drums come in and ben keith's pedal steel. let's hear it for ben keith. piano on it is nice too, kind of buried, but blends nicely w/ neil's guitar.

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link

Ben Keith is welcome whenever he pops up on a Neil song.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

yeah he's a perfect fit for neil in the 70s. kind of wish there was some unreleased solo pedal steel album from 1974 in the archives.

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

I believe I'm 11 out of 40 so far

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

Shakey is good on the circumstances around "Old Man," but the lyric has always kind of ruined that one for me.

Brad C., Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

I'm 10/40, but my ballot was heavy on the canon, so I expect the percentage will go up in the last third.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.thecoolgroove.com/ben.html

Just learned that Ben Keith recorded a solo album in 1984 and apparently has unreleased solo material from 1997.

cwkiii, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

And a Christmas album.

cwkiii, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

I'm 10/40, but my ballot was heavy on the canon, so I expect the percentage will go up in the last third.

ditto, though i'm wondering if any post-rust could crack the top 25 at this point. i remember clemenza spoiling early on nothing was past 30 or so, and i could see the ragged glory hits all canceling each other out, but "rockin' in the free world" has yet to show up.

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX2zTw7Krs0

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

Up to 12/30 now (I think) and about another 10 should make it...will be kind of bummed if "Natural Beauty" and "Journey Through the Past" don't place though.

recordbreaking transfer to Lucknow FC (seandalai), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

I thought "Razor Love" would be a shoe-in, guess not?

boxall, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

'Danger Bird' and 'Out on the Weekend' were both in my top 10, great to see them here.

I heard Decade long before On The Beach so it was weird hearing 'Walk On' as a taste of what I'd heard was such a downer of an album.

I can really hear the 'Winterlong'/Big Star comparisons, it's in the guitar sound.

Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

compositionally it bears a lot of resemblances to Big Star as well, imho - the chiming, ascending guitar line, complimented by the descending "come back now, come back now, whoah" vocal melody at the end of the phrase - Chilton totally used that trick.

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

I heard Decade long before On The Beach so it was weird hearing 'Walk On' as a taste of what I'd heard was such a downer of an album.

yeah i doubt it really was an "a&r wants a single" situation but that's how it feels on OTB after knowing it far longer from decade

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:38 (twelve years ago) link

i know you guys are all really interested my prairie wind liveblog

but this album is pretty damn slight

it's all a dream is nice

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link

i'll revisit Prairie Wind before Silver & Gold and Are You Passionate but I'm not in a rush

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

yeah prairie wind has a nice sound, but there's something lacking in the songwriting.

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

Haven't seen Hawks & Doves mentioned...how is it generally regarded among Neilophiles?

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

has its fans, but i don't think there's a consensus fave track (if there is I know it's not the one i voted for)

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

i voted for little wing, almost voted for lost in space.

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

I like Hawks & Doves quite a bit, - picked it as one of my fave album covers and voted for "Little Wing." "Union Man" is pretty great too. "The gentleman said ... bumper stickers should be issued!"

boxall, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

i've had the theory that had neil taken the first side of hawks n doves and the best tracks from reactor, he'd have a rust-like masterpiece. maybe?

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

I've been listening to H&D a lot the last few days. "This Old Homestead" is a weird lyric set to "For The Turnstiles"-OTB chords.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

*The

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

that first side is such a hodgepodge, though. said it on the voting thread but I think the album's sort of American Stars'n'Bars II - one side country, one side a '70s grab-bag, just without a "Like A Hurricane." I voted for the title track, as I've got a soft spot for psycho patriot Neil.

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

I only heard H&D once or twice 20 years ago before listening to it again the other day. The slight songs are kinda fun, but otm re: best of H&D + best of Re Ac Tor = More Rust.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

that sorta ploy would probably strike neil as too obvious, but it'd work!

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

I think around 5/30.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

I'm at, I should say.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

I always knew Neil from classic rock stations and thought he was alright but the first time I was like "whoah this guy is rad" was in college, when a friend of mine was giving a slide show. he had recently returned from a p legit mountaineering trip to Nepal and played "walk on" as sort of an outro over a series of pictures and it was so different from old man and other MOR ny stuff that it twigged something for me. I was already a huge fan of the built to spill cover of Cortez but had never really put two and two together.

thank you based neil

also kinda tempted to go to cheapo and buy all of the ny vinyl they have, I'm missing so much

catbus otm (gbx), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

and not that anyone cares but my current attending physician (basically my boss) has turned out to be a massive neil fan. we were on the way to d0rothy d4y (for u MNans) and he str8 blasted cinnamon girl the whole time, it was a ~moment~

catbus otm (gbx), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

hutlock must be on diaper duty today.

Has anyone started a Spotify list yet? If so, how are we dealing with TFA songs -- are there any bad covers or live versions elsewhere?

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

crazy low ranking for danger bird! a man needs a maid beating it out by 11 spots, wtf

cool list so far though. makes me want to really dig into the post-rust stuff that i'm less familiar with.

the sun, a great connoisseur of eggs (buh), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago) link

i made a spotify playlist of my ballot and had to say goodbye to anything from TFA, Trans or LOW

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

bummed lucky thirteen wasn't on there either

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

is lucky 13 out of print or something? that's too bad it's not even avail. on spotify. great comp, really made a case for the 80s neil when i was a kid.

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link

My experience with Young and album rock radio matches gbx's. I had no idea of the depth of his fantastic, weird catalog from hearing "Old Man" and "Southern Man" over and over (har). I had to read the SPIN Alternative Guide's essay and dream of the money to find an album that was the aural equivalent of watching on screen a cow entering the water and leaving.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i never got around to getting lucky 13, only song from the era that feels strikingly absent is "Prisoners"

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

I found Lucky Thirteen used for cheap a couple years ago, it definitely made me more open to the idea of exploring his 80s.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

The two Old Ways inclusions did not convince though.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

Dunno why it's been hard for Neil to cut straight country records; Comes A Time is closer to a folk-country amalgam, I guess (with a little mellotron thrown in). Like Jagger he can't quite do it without smirking, although I'll take "Dead Flowers" over "Where is the Highway Tonight."

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

xp yeah those are still pretty dire. the stuff on a treasure is the best place for that era. lucky 13 really is decade II though, just, you know, a different kind of decade.

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

I voted for this song, with this version specifically in mind, I gather it was supposed to be on Old Ways.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65wWCXProCI

boxall, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

I can't exactly endorse the video, ha. What a screenshot.

boxall, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

Not important, but I wanted to follow up on one thing--I do think "Sugar Mountain" and "Emperor's New Clothes" are comparable:

"Ain't it funny how you feel/When you're findin' out it's real?/Oh, to live on Sugar Mountain..."

"How could I possibly know what I want when I was only twenty-one?"

Neil's past 20 and looking back at 19, O'Connor's looking back at 21, and in both cases, there's the implication that they're much older and wiser/world-wearier now. Which is kind of funny, and a small part of what I love in both songs.

clemenza, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/752606

so i thought maybe i should have heard the turn of phrase "a cow entering the water and leaving" before so i googled it and that's what happened

catbus otm (gbx), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link

dunno why Weisbard didn't plan for the possibility of anal drowning.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link

When was the last time you saw a cow? What about more than one cow?
by AnonymousGirl on April 23rd, 2012 | 4 people like this

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link

9/30 so far.
Voted Captain Kennedy off of Hawks & Doves.
And I guess no one else voted Coupe De Ville :(

exclusive to this pledge group - pleasure (weatheringdaleson), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link

Since I don't think it's going to place top-25, here's a 1977 live electric version of "Little Wing" with the Ducks. I like the album version better but this is a nice complement https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZAVO4VR-ME

boxall, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 22:18 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i love that version (though the whispery H&D version is unbeatable). i hope neil deigns to release a Ducks show sometime, a pretty cool band. they also do a neat electric reading of "sail away".

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

yeah prairie wind has a nice sound, but there's something lacking in the songwriting.

But it's got Goin' Home, one of his great guitar epics. IMHO, just as good as Like A Hurricane.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 23:28 (twelve years ago) link

"Goin' Home" is on Are You Passionate?, the only leftover from the original version of the lp "Toast".

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 23:34 (twelve years ago) link

Spotify playlist: http://open.spotify.com/user/124420673/playlist/7tIBGOFg0EDXgAz10slAJZ

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 00:59 (twelve years ago) link

has any boots/live/tracklist info of toast stuff come out? like goin home so much more than anything else on AYP that I'm dying to hear more

da croupier, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 01:07 (twelve years ago) link

there are two songs he was playing with crazy horse in 2001 that I've heard: Gateway Of Love and Standing In The Light Of Love -- i assumed that these were slated for Toast. Not lost masterpieces iirc, but pretty solid.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 02:08 (twelve years ago) link

In Shakey, a post-Broken Arrow session involving Neil/Crazy Horse & Rick Rubin is mentioned in passing. I guess nothing really came of it, otherwise it'd get talked about more as some "Holy Grail" lost recordings.

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 04:07 (twelve years ago) link

"Goin' Home" is on Are You Passionate?

Oh yeah, yer right. I meant the epic guitar workout The Painter.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 04:11 (twelve years ago) link

am I the only who feels that Neil Young is really...tasteless?

he sings terribly (I know every 70's singer/songwriter needs to have a "unique" voice but he's an extreme case even in that company), he doesn't know what his lyrics are about, most of the time he looks awful, he loves schmaltzy arrangements, he writes sappy melodies and he does a lot of guitar soloing.

he's stil a genius but a damn weird one. I would never introduce him to a non-music obsessive and say "this is one of the greats" the way I would with Bob Dylan, Randy Newman, Leonard Cohen or even Lou Reed. am I completely wrong here?

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 05:40 (twelve years ago) link

*the only one

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 05:40 (twelve years ago) link

I think you'll have a hard time on this particular thread getting anyone to agree with you. Elsewhere, he's not universally loved.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 05:51 (twelve years ago) link

great singers Bob Dylan, Randy Newman, Leonard Cohen & Lou Reed

buzza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 05:58 (twelve years ago) link

lou reed is definitely not tasteless, in any way.

Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 08:28 (twelve years ago) link

from that list of "greats", i would put Neil Young second to only Bob Dylan. and if it came down to who i enjoy listening to the most, Neil would be at the very front.

charlie h, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 08:41 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, solo Reed is a walking monument of tastelessness (I had VU on mind but didn't specify)

Newman and Reed are not great singers but they don't have as "challenging" voices as Young.

Somedays I would argue Dylan and Cohen actually are great singers (with Dylan being perhaps only slightly less "challenging" than Young)

the aesthetic of those guys seems much less controversial. putting Dylan/VU/Newman on at a party will feel natural while things easily get awkward with Young.

anyway, I'm just digging myself deeper into a hole I'm not even sure I belong to. haven't listened to Young in ages so it's quite posible I don't agree with any of my "points" anymore.

sorry for this, just ignore me and enjoy the countdown. great work clemenza!

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 11:26 (twelve years ago) link

Young's actually the only one of the artists you mentioned who inspires near-universal affection. I know more than a few people who detest Dylan but adore several Young songs.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 11:30 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that's true, any party of just old white dudes will be jamming to Randy

Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 11:33 (twelve years ago) link

Neil is also the only Guitar God on that list, which makes him interesting in other ways. Apart from Hendrix, the only visionary songwriter who's also a visionary improv musician?

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 11:49 (twelve years ago) link

Neil's weird alright, but he's no more an unconventional singer than all the acts you mentioned, each of whom is a ... singular voice.

I was trying to pinpoint how I would describe Young's talent. I don't know that I would call him a genius, per se, or even clever, or a good craftsman, unlike many songwriters people consider great, or genius. He's more of a force of nature, which puts him in a different category.

He is a visionary guitarist, though.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 11:50 (twelve years ago) link

When I first read someone calling Neil tasteless, I thought someone was bringing up his indigenous peoples fetish

da croupier, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 13:00 (twelve years ago) link

By "tasteless" I thought he meant Neil Young's disinclination to self-edit. His catalogue is full of loose threads, first drafts and impulsive gestures, which may read to some as sloppy or self-indulgent, but to me the gold and the dreck all flow from the same place. The joy of even his greatest songs is that they don't sound overly worked on. A friend of mine says that what he likes best about NY is that he's unusually wise and insightful but never makes a big deal out of it - it's just like "Oh, here's something that occurred to me and maybe you'll find it useful too." You really hear that when he sings about politics - it's all first-thought-best-thought, for better or worse. It doesn't make much sense to compare that approach to patient craftsmen like Randy Newman or Leonard Cohen because it's something else entirely.

Get wolves (DL), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 13:33 (twelve years ago) link

and Young's the only one of the lot to score a #1 hit that most people can hum.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 13:35 (twelve years ago) link

As referred to upthread: Missed yesterday, but the list has been great. "Winterlong" was my #1, sad to see it so low -- I sort of suspected it had an outside chance at #1, add as that sounds. I'm sure that is colored by my love for it.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 13:39 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I had a moment last night where I thought "hmm, 20 of my 30 votes haven't placed yet. that means that 20 of the top 25 tomorrow will come from my ballot! i am the hivemind!" until i realized that it might be possible that other people don't like the same songs that i do.

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 13:51 (twelve years ago) link

He's more of a force of nature, which puts him in a different category

That's a really good way of putting it! I'd say Dylan is one too. They're rare creatures though, I can't think of many others at all with that kind of relentlessness and drive. Maybe Prince.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

I think when it comes to music, some people reach a level of genius for periods of time--a few years, a couple, three minutes. I'd call Dylan a genius in '65 and '66, and you can stretch that a year in two in either direction if you want. Peter Townshend was a genius from '65 to '67, etc. For me, what Neil did in 1969 and 1970 reached the level of genius, and then he was possessed of a very peculiar kind of genius from '73 to '75 (or to '79, if you'd prefer). The rest of his career, he's written and recorded a bunch of amazing songs, with lots of bumps along the way.

I wouldn't be looking for many surprises today. Someone yesterday said he figured out 20 sure things--if you think about what hasn't shown up so far, I'd push that even higher.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:06 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil25.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

My pick for his funniest song ever (the punchline, anyway); I'm sure more people would go with "Welfare Mothers."

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:09 (twelve years ago) link

Wow,.low.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

I thought Top 25 was pretty good for "Pocahontas." Twenty-six votes from 66 people...almost 40%.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:15 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil24.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:17 (twelve years ago) link

That picture is great.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

Very tired of this one. I liked it when it came out, though not as much as "Hey Hey, My My"--some of the lyrics seemed clunky. Now it gets played to death on the classic-rock station here.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:19 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks, I love that picture. A lot of the images I found just by googling the song title.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

I never hear "Rockin'" anymore, but it was overplayed for a long, long time. The SNL performance is still transcendent.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

i've always liked "pocahontas", but mainly in a breezy, passive-smile kind of way. it never quite got under my skin like so many of his other songs have.

charlie h, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

I'll have to look up the SNL, which I think I did see at the time.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:21 (twelve years ago) link

lyrics to 'rockin in the free world' are a bit clunky but it was the first neil track i ever heard (video shown on a sunday morning music show, whats up with neil's hair in that video btw?) and a school band i was in attempted to cover it (badly i might add). so sentimental fave and all that.

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:22 (twelve years ago) link

Did not specify on my ballot, but it's the Unplugged Pocahontas for me.

exclusive to this pledge group - pleasure (weatheringdaleson), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:23 (twelve years ago) link

I always assume Rockin' In The Free World gets misinterpreted, Born In The USA style.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

It totally does.

cwkiii, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

the SNL clip:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5lwon_neil-young-keep-on-rockin-in-the-fr_music

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

Doing a sarcastic patriots' anthem looks like a pretty good career move, tbh.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:26 (twelve years ago) link

I'm sure a lot of its staying power is that people do focus on the title/catch-phrase; it's actually the song's irony I find a little heavy-handed.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:27 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil23.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

This sounds totally hokey because it is, but I really loved hearing "Rockin' in the Free World" over the end credits to Fahrenheit 9/11. It felt like a gutpunch.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

I love "Rockin' in the Free World" and haven't tired of it yet (which isn't to say that won't happen). I listened to the version from Seattle '89 this morning, the first time anyone other than Neil had heard the song (including his band)...and it's absolutely chilling. It starts a little clunky and you think, "Oh, this is kinda fun," and then it just keeps building and building and the guy in the car next to you is wondering if you're having a seizure or what.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

"Hey Hey, My My" is my first one today. It's such a perfect closer.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

This sounds totally hokey because it is, but I really loved hearing "Rockin' in the Free World" over the end credits to /Fahrenheit 9/11/. It felt like a gutpunch.

It was supposed to be "Won't Get Fooled Again," but Townshend wasn't a fan of Moore and wouldn't allow the song to be used.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

Okay: if I'd combined "Hey Hey" and "My My" together, they would have totalled 42 voters/422 points. Happily, that would have only placed it/them fifth. If they'd won, I might have had the same situation as Sight & Sound with the two Godfathers. Again, I think it makes much more sense to count them as separate entities.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:31 (twelve years ago) link

Pocahontus = my #4.
Hey Hey = my #11.
Rockin' = not on my list, but I agree - I could watch that SNL clip all day. Totally savage.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:34 (twelve years ago) link

Townshend wasn't a fan of Moore and wouldn't allow the song to be used

still a pretty smart guy that Pete

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:36 (twelve years ago) link

I agree with separate counting fwiw. I voted for the one without the 'Johnny Rotten/Rotten Johnny' bit.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:36 (twelve years ago) link

"Rockin" was my #4, will absolutely never tire of that song. It was the first Neil song I ever got obsessed with. Its definitely overplayed, but I'll never tire of it.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:36 (twelve years ago) link

"Hey Hey My My" -- What tipped me to voting this over "My My Hey Hey" is just the joy of that monstrous guttural riff.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks for the clip, that's great--helps me re-connect to the song. I love how everyone skulks around all hunched over. Extra points for mentioning "shuffling" years before LMFAO.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:38 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil22.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:39 (twelve years ago) link

haha anyone remember Annie Lennox's cover, used during the Spacey seduction scene in American Beauty?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

"It's only castles burning"

<3

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

a kid that'll never get to be cool as the ultimate tragedy is such a neil young sentiment

straight up now tell me will I be a fucking lump forever? (some dude), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link

Should be all killer, no filler from here on out, but this is the sort of list both Neil nuts and contrarians could easily subvert.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

I think of it as the Mena Suvari seduction scene, but yes, remember it well. I don't think I realized it was Annie Lennox the first time I saw the film.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

Strangest song on Gold Rush, the one that best captures the album cover.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

yeah it's an unsettling one

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

it and "Tell Me Why" the oddest

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

Weird that Neil wrote about "lorries"--thought that was only a British term. Maybe it was just that "trucks" didn't have enough syllables.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

Coming in late here, but wanna say that the delivery of "Marlon Brando, Pocahontas and me" following the preceding lines still gets me every time. I mean, it is like a life affirmation for me: yeah, Neil's a cool fuckin guy and life is OK with shit like this around. Not sure why, but it works.

Unrelated, for the longest time I though Rust Never Sleeps was just a live album and, as I had heard all of the songs separately before on bootlegs and stuff, never bothered checking it out. Was really surprised when I actually listened to the whole thing. Way more essential than I ever gave it credit for.

grandavis, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

SNL clip the rare occasion when Neil is in crazy mode and neither the funkiest nor the best musician on stage. A shame ego clashes made that band impossible.

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

Marlon Brando/Pocahontas

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

I almost used Ms. Littlefeather for the image, but the Marlon photos kicking around on the internet tend to be a bit more evocative.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

I was watching that night! You never knew what would happen on the Academy Awards for a few years there...

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:52 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil21.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:52 (twelve years ago) link

This is what convinced me to put "Pocahontas" on my list:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2wmDfRJn0M

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

^^^ a wonderful song that I never want to hear again (c/o John Lennon about "Yesterday")

xpost

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

I was surprised "Needle" finished so high; another overplay casualty up here.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

who was in the rockin' in the free world/snl band, anyway?

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

Don't Let it Bring You Down = my #39. The solo acoustic takes on this one are stronger and stranger to me than the band version on ATGR, I think.

Needle/Damage = kind of surprised to see it this low myself, I had it at #9. Probably the most beautiful anti-drug song I've ever heard.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

I think that was Oscar Gamble in the "Keep on Rockin'" clip.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

I think "Needle" works for me still cause it is so short. And I really love the guitar playing on it, but that is a muso thing. Cool turnarounds etc.

grandavis, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

Steve Jordan on drums and Charley Drayton on bass (X-Pensive Winos rhythm section, both producers/multi-instrumentalists now), and Frank.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link

xpost

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link

Agreed on the guitar playing on "Needle" -- really awesome stuff, and just the right length IMHO.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil20.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:02 (twelve years ago) link

That seems about right. Not on my list, but it'd be weird if it were absent from the Top 20.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

catching up, in reverse order
heart of gold - cool tune! fun to play around a campfire
needle and damage done -- good song, but don't need to hear it again. unless he does an electric arrangement w/ crazy horse
don't let it bring you down -- didn't vote for it, but classic, love that it's an acoustic song that still sounds heavy.
hey hey my my - that high note he hits in the guitar solo, holy shit, like tectonic plates shifting
rockin in the free world - the first song i ever learned to play on guitar
pocahontas - one of my all time faves, just a perfect set of lyrics, perfect melody. this song runs through my head daily.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, glad lots of songs will place higher than Heart of Gold, but cannot deny its status as a Neil bonafide, just not the version I turn to these days. I do admire the moment when the backup singers really let go on the very last chorus though. Gets me through the whole song every time. Like the drumming a lot to, cool hi-hat work.

grandavis, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

good tunes! glad to see "rockin" made the list after all - i get why people might be sick, but i still think it's the best thing he's done post-Rust.

da croupier, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

Solo on hey hey my my gets me through that song, find it to be a slog most of the time.

grandavis, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

oh of course "Rockin" was always gonna make the list

funny to see so many of the big hits cleared out in quick succession, i wonder if any will be left by the time we get to the top 10

straight up now tell me will I be a fucking lump forever? (some dude), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

Compare Heart of Gold to the other radio shit in 1972 and it kills it DEAD. STILL.

That said, I had it at 18, so I guess 20 isn't far off from that.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

oh of course "Rockin" was always gonna make the list

(very) early on in the ballot collection period, clemenza implied nothing post-rust had broke the top 30 yet, and also suggested a key later track might get slighted

da croupier, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

Like the drumming a lot to, cool hi-hat work.

agreed about the hi-hats! i doubt many people notice it, but it subtly helps to defines the feel of the verses.

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSAz1Vc4U34

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

Still alot of my picks that haven't placed yet despite being either canonical or big fan faves (or so I thought), but there's also a few I was sure would not place, so who knows?

Heart of Gold didn't make my list.

Lee626, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

I've been mishearing a lyric for 40 years: always thought it was "I've been in my mind/It's such a fine mind..."

For what it's worth, when I made that post-Rust comment, I think just over half the ballots had come in.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

I've been listening to the Bronco Bowl boot (1/14/89) and the Restless are doing a great job. Love the versions of "Don't Cry" and "Mr. Soul".

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil19.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link

thought that'd be higher

straight up now tell me will I be a fucking lump forever? (some dude), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

Actually found a great image of a guy lying in a burned-out basement, but the dimensions weren't right.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

Thought it would be higher too, but I didn't chart it.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

K.D. Lang's cover got a vote too.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

Called it! "After The Gold Rush" was #19 on my ballot.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:15 (twelve years ago) link

xxxp This pic made me laugh anyway

Jeff W, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

I forget the context, but Christgau had a great line about not understanding something or other until you'd been in an arena filled with hippie burnouts when Neil gets to the "And I felt like getting high" line.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

i think i've finally come round to "hey hey, my my". used to see it as little more than discordant slop, but now i'm totally on board as that monster riff buzzes and slices like a chainsaw. it all sounds so perfect and right.

charlie h, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

Tyler can probably answer this: does any footage survive from the would-be film?

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, much lower than I expected. As much as I love "After the Gold Rush," I always found the cheers when Neil sings "And I felt like gettin' high" on the (otherwise great) Live Rust version to be a stadium rock nadir.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

You're breakin' my heart.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link

footage from after the gold rush? i don't think it ever amde it past the stoned screenplay stage.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

Wasn't sure...I suppose it's all documented in Shakey. Having marvelled at the insanity of Journey, I sure wish they'd left something behind.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil18.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

"Tired Eyes" sounds exactly like coming down from bad drugs in bad company.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

Bruce Berry's actual van.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

sweet! this song is ... something else! wow.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:25 (twelve years ago) link

My third highest Tonight song. My highest didn't make the list.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

footage from after the gold rush? i don't think it ever amde it past the stoned screenplay stage.

Yeah, I'm almost positive it was just a (Dean Stockwell-penned) screenplay.

cwkiii, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

My ONLY TTN song - had it at #21 but I'm all good with it placing this high.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

When people describe TTN as "harrowing," this is the song I always think of.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

"Tired Eyes" is a great song but I can't remove it from the record for some reason, did not make my ballot. Was sure it would place high though (i.e., didn't need my help).

grandavis, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil17.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

Really happy to see "Albequerque" this high, love that song a lot.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

My #2 Tonight favourite. The Canadian band Treble Charger recorded an excellent cover for one of the tribute albums.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, TTN fans hitting the top 20 hard.

grandavis, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

They're more harrowing to listen to than anything. Yes, TTN sounds like a bad comedown. But I'm not sure these tunes tell me anything about bad comedowns I didn't already know.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

Tired Eyes and Albuquerque were the only two on my ballot from TTN. like a lot of other people i have trouble isolating certain songs from the rest of the album.

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

ilm is basically the ditch trilogy fanclub, i knew that well before this poll

straight up now tell me will I be a fucking lump forever? (some dude), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

just watched Ace in the Hole last night and had albuquerque running through my head. Such a good song, so downbeat, but not depressing. Kind of amazing that he pulls off singing such a weird word "al-al-al-allll - ba-kirky."

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

From La Lechera: "Albuquerque" - man, I sure do identify with the spirit of this song, minus the fried eggs and country ham (I prefer scrambled eggs and bacon)

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

But I'm not sure these tunes tell me anything about bad comedowns I didn't already know.

Not enough just to vividly capture the feeling?

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

also another great ben keith track, his playing on this is otherworldy.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

Oh shit, I forgot that I charted this one too, so I did have two TTN tracks on here. Forgive me, I'm coming down from some heavy shit this morning.

Anyway, my #36. When I finally got an acoustic guitar, this is the first song I learned to play, only to decide later that it sounded far cooler on solo electic anyway. Got rid of the acoustic about a month later.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

"tired eyes" does an incredible job of pinpointing a precarious mental state -- pleading and consoling, but in a depleted way, while the conversational thread that runs through it is kind of rambling and heedless, like it's running on second-hand steam autopilot.

charlie h, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

"Tired Eyes": weirdest song ever to make a greatest hits comp?

theStalePrince, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

I am so far behind due to busy work days but I got hung up on Out on the Weekend and almost cried at work, it's so beautiful. I wish I'd done a significant amount of youtubing song titles I didn't recognize before voting, because I have come across at least 10 songs I knew well but didn't know the titles of, ARGH.

Clemenza that sedan picture you used reminds me of Kingston road. Any idea?

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

my #1

john. a resident of chicago., Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

My #1. One possible screen name change I'd been pondering recently was Al Bakerky.

Neil Jung (WmC), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

Albuquerque, I mean...

(xpost)

john. a resident of chicago., Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

Many xposts: The Goldrush movie was never made (and the script was eventually lost). It was only developed as part of Hopper/Fonda's deal @ Universal (the ill-fated "Youth Movies" division).

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

Couldn't be Kingston Road--it's Bruce Berry's van. Not sure where he resided, other than it wasn't Toronto.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

Gold Rush and Don't Let It Bring You Down were both in my Top 10 - classic "uh oh, here come the 70s" vibes on that album.

After the Gold Rush is my excuse to post this list of links to five Radiohead covers of Neil Young - very nice version of Gold Rush going into Everything In Its Right Place.

http://www.twentyfourbit.com/2011/02/hear-radiohead-cover-5-neil-young-songs/

Only realised this morning how much NY reminds me of Lou Reed on parts of Tired Eyes.

Get wolves (DL), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil16.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

okay so basically the bottom 25 is just going to be TTN and OTB right...? Glad Rockin' in the Free World made it at least, such an amazing song.

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

Tonight's the Night (album) is suddenly killing it.

charlie h, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

Didn't chart it, but I will add that I prefer the album closing version to the album opening version.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

A good bit of OTB has already placed tho.

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

Still one "Rust" song yet to place that will, I'm pretty sure.

boxall, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

still some zuma and everybody knows tracks, too, i'm sure.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

okay so basically the bottom 25 is just going to be TTN and OTB right...?

Plus a minimum of 3 from Everybody Knows....

xpost.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

"ride my llama" of course :) xzpost

charlie h, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

Both versions counted together (only a couple of voters indicated a specific version anyway). I had a real negative reaction to what Neil did with this in the Year of the Horse movie. It was just too much, the way he stretched it out and howled and yelped. I realize how personal a song it is, and obviously he's entitled to do whatever he wants with it. Speaking as a listener, he crossed a line into overkill.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

Still surprised "After The Goldrush" didn't finish higher for some reason, but of course I like all of the songs in the top 20 anyways so no biggie. Thought it might be close to "Life On Mars" in the Bowie poll though.

grandavis, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

xp yeah, occasionally i find live versions of tonight's the night kinda garish (and tasteless, i guess!). they're entertaining in a trashy way, but sorta seem like they've crossed the line into pulp fiction, even though it's about a real dude.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

Just got here. Albuquerque placing so high is the big surprise of the day so far.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

I like how in the Rust movie the encore of TTN comes AFTER the end credits.

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

Still surprised "After The Goldrush" didn't finish higher for some reason, but of course I like all of the songs in the top 20 anyways so no biggie. Thought it might be close to "Life On Mars" in the Bowie poll though.

Me too; it was one of my two guesses for what an "obvious" #1 would be in this poll.

cwkiii, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

As everyone probably figured out, the photo is of Bruce Berry. I don't think I'd ever seen him until putting together this.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

I would have been happy with "After the Gold Rush" at #1; #12 on my own ballot.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil15.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

in general the year of the horse versions of 70s cuts feel a little too "alternative"-influenced

da croupier, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

kind of want bruce's dolphin project shirt

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

the ones in the movie at least, album's pretty tight xpost

da croupier, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

My #1. Genius.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

For the first person who can identify the still...I have nothing!

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

Perfect song.

cwkiii, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

I had it at #14. I love Saint Etienne's version, btw, but it's not even in that band's top 10.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

Surprising that there will be at least 2 songs from ATGB that place higher than the title track.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

Three of us, including me, voted for the Saint Etienne version. It was the one cover I thought had a chance.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

Shameful last-minute ballot cut.

exclusive to this pledge group - pleasure (weatheringdaleson), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

I always skip this song when I can. Too CSNY for me.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

always amazes me that OLCBYH didn't make it onto Decade...

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

I see such a stark line between "Only Love Can Break Your Heart" and non-Neil CSNY ballads.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

Surprising that there will be at least 2 songs from ATGB that place higher than the title track.

― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:56 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

After The Gold Bush is one of the best '70s porn movies before the girls started shaving

straight up now tell me will I be a fucking lump forever? (some dude), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

I always skip this song when I can. Too CSNY for me.

― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

Clemenza - ah, of course. I dunno, just gave me this "I've seen this" feeling (obviously not THAT gas station though!)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

and I do prefer the Saint Etienne version

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

Only Love was my #3. Didn't vote for the St. Etienne version, but I did used to have the cassingle...

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

i think i really appreciated the sentiment of "only love can break your heart" at one point. now it just registers as a series of well-worn proverbs. great song though.

charlie h, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

I do too, but I don't like the harmony vocals at all. Actively bug me and have since I first heard the album. There are some versions from the '76 tour I don't mind.

xposts to Clemenza.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

FFM: I'm a lifelong West-ender who gets frightened and confused whenever I venture east of Mount Pleasant.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil14.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

Last minute cut for me. For this one, I actually prefer the versions with the CSN vocals (see the live cut on Archives).

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

According to my calculations, there are 10 songs that are still guaranteed to place. That leaves 3 mystery songs. I can hardly stand the suspense.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

Is that a photo of someome making arrangements with himself?

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

My #6. Disappointing to learn upthread that Neil doesn't play this anymore because he doesn't know what it's about...C'mon, Neil, we do--just don't ask us to explain it.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

lol waht this song is good but it's a bunch of nonsense!

xp

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

Was hoping this would be top 10. I'm not sure I'd heard any of ATGR before I bought it on vinyl (maybe "Southern Man") and the weird vibe of the opener was a big part of the album casting a spell on me.

boxall, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

xp oh he still plays it, i think that was just some neil interview BS

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

Mysterious photo--the baby kills me.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

I think I have all 13 left in my head, just not sure of the order.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

Everybody has that!

exclusive to this pledge group - pleasure (weatheringdaleson), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

are you finishing this today, clem?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

I don't care about the indecipherability of "old enough / young enough." I think "Tell me lies, later come and see me" is a classic line though.

boxall, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

(xpost) Yes, for sure. I'll post some album totals right after, then people can post their own lists.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

It seems that everyone has a few songs on this poll they just don't like, don't understand what the fuss is, or think it's a minor cut. Makes it very Neil like in it's ornery contrariness.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

I always skip this song when I can. Too CSNY for me.

― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:57 AM (13 minutes ago)

I see such a stark line between "Only Love Can Break Your Heart" and non-Neil CSNY ballads.

― clemenza, Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:00 PM (9 minutes ago)

SS actually covered this on one of his '80s solo albums

Lee626, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

Favourite line among many is probably "You can free me/all in the way that you smile."

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

That was my other title for this: A World of Ornery Contrariness.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil13.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

voted for this one

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

holy god that Stills version of "Only Love..." is caca

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

Damn--forgot the quotations. I tend to obsess over such things, so I think I'll re-post in a couple of minutes.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

Great entry! This hit me like a punch when I was doing my ballot - I'd never paid it heed before, I was always about the longer ektin cuts.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

A happy surprise! I wasn't sure what people thought of this track. It doesn't seem to spur much conversation.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

I never would have figured this would finish so high.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

Had this at #29, but some days it is top 5 for me.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

(can we get a recap before the top ten please? I keep forgetting)

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

best song on the album

xp

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil13b.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

I mean the epics are good but this one is so concise and to-the-point and perfect

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

Okay, that's better. The image is from that Georgetown video I posted yesterday. Georgetown was the very epicenter of everybody-knows-this-is-nowhereness, though of course (and against my better judgement) I'm nostalgic for that time anyway now.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

didn't know this song was so popular, what with the shadow of the two ax epics--amazing, amazing guitar sound on this album, obviously....

theStalePrince, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

I'm getting myself ready to keep quiet about said ax epics.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

I was surprised it finished so high too. Didn't make my ballot, but I do love it.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

Someone stand watch over Alfred when we get to the ax epics.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil12.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

still catching up..

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil27.jpg
no mention of THE EXCELSIOR, guys?? /too much time on ilx

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

pre-emptive 3-day ban?

xxp

Neil Jung (WmC), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

now see "Helpless" would easily have made my least favorite Young songs list.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

La Lechera's #2: "Helpless"  - greatest campfire Neil, makes me think about home (wherever that is)

I think campfire Neil is a perfect description. My #4.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

1st song I learned on guitar. I'm gonna play it now.

exclusive to this pledge group - pleasure (weatheringdaleson), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

I don't hate it, but I don't get what's special about it either. I do kind of enjoy the Last Waltz version with Joni singing backup from behind the stage.

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

what is so special = 3 chords

exclusive to this pledge group - pleasure (weatheringdaleson), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not as big on The Last Waltz as most people, but Neil's version there is phenomenal. (The backstory just adds to it.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

I don't hate it, but I don't get what's special about it either.

ditto this

Neil Jung (WmC), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

large chunks of the Last Waltz are extremely irritating/frustrating

xp

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

Three chords + dream, comfort, memory.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

Last minute cut for me, just not a big fave. Shout out for the Nick Cave cover.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

And who could forget the, um, editing of the Last Waltz performance?

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

helpless is so dreamy.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

"Helpless" was my #1, i singlehandedly moved it up about 6 spots in the results

straight up now tell me will I be a fucking lump forever? (some dude), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

Another lifetime of misheard lyrics: always thought it was "dream, comfort, memory, despair," the internet's telling me "dream, comfort, memory to spare." I like my version a little better.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

I have so many mixed feelings and weird ties to the little Northern New England town where I grew up, and "Helpless" seems to be on a parallel course.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

love the original, but having joni in the wings responding to the lyrics in LW is just ridiculous

da croupier, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

i prefer the solo versions of helpless to the csny, kinda hate joni singing on the last waltz (love joni elsewhere of course)

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

i love the last waltz for being a chronicle of a fascinating moment of time with some great music, but there's pretty much no song i wouldn't prefer in a different version if i'm not watching it

da croupier, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil11.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

Very high...like it on the album, would never have guessed it would do so well here.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

YEAHHHHH voted for it, didn't think it would place this high

da croupier, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

YESSSSS my number nine number nine number nine

exclusive to this pledge group - pleasure (weatheringdaleson), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

i prefer the solo versions of helpless to the csny, kinda hate joni singing on the last waltz (love joni elsewhere of course)

― tylerw,

^^This, except no need for the parenthetical codicil.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

lol @ pic

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

I get why "Helpless" works for folks, but definitely a fatigued number for me. Definitely some favorites of mine are not gonna place at this point.

grandavis, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

I think it must be so indescribably weird for anyone who interacted with Manson circa '67 to carry that around in your head.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

Whereas "Revolution Blues" knocked me on my ass the first time I heard it and does to this day. I can just listen to the bass on that song and get taken "there" every time, love it to death.

grandavis, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

love danko and helm on revolution blues, hope there are outtakes of them playing w/ neil on any upcoming archives releases. i'd just like to hear them discussing the song, tbh.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't vote in this, but Revolution Blues is top 3 NY for me

mod night at the oasis (NickB), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

ha, never noticed that danko and helm were on "Revolution Blues," that's great

da croupier, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

yeah they're also on "see the sky about to rain"

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

That looks to be quite a sporty fur on one of the Manson girls.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

Was my #3!

grandavis, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

Didn't vote for RB but on reflection should have.

Jeff W, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

"I'm a barrel of laughs with my carbine on" = one of many classic lines in that song

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

I just realized -- 66 ballots ties the Zeppelin turnout.

Neil Jung (WmC), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

this section is so hilarious/scary

Well, it's so good to be here,
asleep on your lawn.
Remember your guard dog?
Well, I'm afraid
that he's gone.
It was such a drag
to hear him
whining all night long.
Yes, that was me with the dogs [doves?],
setting them free
near the factory
Where you built your computer love.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

man he hated zapp

da croupier, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

Ismael, many posts ago: I'll do the full list at the end, so I don't want to post anything here.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil10.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

it's funny, i voted for "ohio," think it's great, but figured it was love/hate enough not to rank this high

da croupier, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

Really weird to me that David Crosby plays on Revolution Blues as well. Have trouble imagining him "grooving" with it.

grandavis, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

La Lechera's #1: "Ohio" - I love Ohio (the place) even if it is super duper fucked up

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

Many unforgettable on-the-spot photos to choose from, including the most famous one, but this felt nice.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

many xp Clemenza - hah! I am settling into west end life (lived on Jane & Bathurst throughout my 20s) but my roots are on Scarborough Golf Club road, where my Grandparents have always lived :)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

have honestly never given a fuck about the song "Ohio", surprised people rate it so highly

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

well it's an RIP thread

da croupier, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

Nice image. After writing a lot about Ohio I bought the relevant copy of Life magazine in a vintage magazine store and framed it but that would be way too obvious here. Images generally A+ I have to say. Some could be stills from a Shakey movie.

Get wolves (DL), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah this song doesn't do anything for me. "I love Ohio (the place) even if it is super duper fucked up" kind of a weird reason for voting it #1?

boxall, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

yesss, caught up finally. What a bunch of great music. Excited about this top 10.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

and yes - the images you are picking are FANTASTIC, Clemenza - thanks for putting such thought into this! I was a lazy GISer who didn't format any pictures when I ran the Pulp poll :(

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

ohio rocks pretty hard, i like the stills young dueling guitars.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

That'd be something to have...I've got the Oswald Life, tried unsuccessfully to get hold of the "Is God Dead?" Time.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil9.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

"Ohio" is a tremendous-sounding song imo, my #2

straight up now tell me will I be a fucking lump forever? (some dude), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

tin soldiers and Shakey's coming

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

guys let me interrupt this poll to bring you this crazy horse version of let it shine, which i had never heard before. they make it into a Zuma song!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oPZZP0f3FY
[i'm guessing let it shine won't be #1]

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

Crosby's interjections in "Ohio" are A+

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

Unrelated factoid: I was at the Texas Theatre and I sat in the seat in that Oswald was arrested in the other night.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

From La Lechera: #5 "Expecting to Fly" -- baroque! Ended with a sigh.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

"Expecting to Fly"! This was my other #1 ("When You Dance I Can Really Love" was the first). The chorus melody is the saddest sound I've ever heard.

cwkiii, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

This is the one genuine surprise I'll concede (my too-high quibbles notwithstanding). Highest average, easily--it got fewer votes than songs all the way down to "Pocahontas" at #25. The equivalent from my own ballot would be "Out of My Mind," which didn't do nearly as well.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

Expecting To Fly, Unexpectedly High

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

expecting to fly -- one of the great 60s orchestral pop numbers. so beautiful. think it was mentioned on the voting thread, but the instrumental from the same session (i think), "slowly burning," which emerged on the archives, is equally lovely.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

here it is! listen up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycKnAo8llyI

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

I sat in the seat in that Oswald was arrested in the other night--wild.

I voted for "Slowly Burning."

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

Product placement: pay up, Sprite.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

Ain't pollin' for Sprite!

cwkiii, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

i actually just felt genuine disappointment with myself that i forgot to vote for "this note's for you"

straight up now tell me will I be a fucking lump forever? (some dude), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

as it stands "rapid transit" is prob the funniest song on my ballot

straight up now tell me will I be a fucking lump forever? (some dude), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil9b.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

Excuse the insanity--somehow the image got lopped off at the bottom.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

no wait n/m i DID vote for "note" (xpost)

straight up now tell me will I be a fucking lump forever? (some dude), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil8.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

haha! is that checkers?

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

wow I REALLY don't give a shit about Expecting to Fly - have a hard time with most of the Springfield stuff tbh, it always strikes me as tentative and half-formed

kinda disappointed with this run of songs tbrr

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

Looks to be early '70s, so surely Checkers was long gone.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

i actually just felt genuine disappointment with myself that i forgot to vote for "this note's for you"

I voted for it! Bummed it didn't make it :(

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

I think RN's doing the Twist, though.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

missing from pic: metal detector

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

Checkers II?

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

on the beach is so great, such a leaden song. guitar solo is incredible, the way it kinda falls off at the end.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

Please hide me from this world where "This Note's for You" is superior to Buffalo Springfield.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

i think it only recently occurred to me that t-bone and this note's for you are basically the same song.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

wow I REALLY don't give a shit about Expecting to Fly - have a hard time with most of the Springfield stuff tbh, it always strikes me as tentative and half-formed

Wow, I disagree with this completely!

Neil Jung (WmC), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

you say tentative and half-formed, i say youthful and experimental

da croupier, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

Not meant as an attack, SMC, there's just no comparison for me.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

expecting to fly is barely a buffalo springfield song, too -- no one else from the band plays on it, and i think it was originally planned as a neil young solo single.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

i love that the period where neil hadn't yet found his sound was also the period where everyone was exploring the studio

da croupier, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

Catching up, sorry:

Had On The Beach at 22
Had Expecting to Fly at 46 (so I don't think it counted, as only my first 40 were registered for the poll...)
Had Ohio at 43 (ditto -- also, as mentioned upthread, I have been to Kent State a zillion times, walked on THAT hill, etc. Gives you CHILLS, seriously)
Had Rev Blues at 10

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

my first exposure to "On The Beach" was a cover by the very underrated (and very NY-influenced) singer/songwriter Chris Lee, but i'm not a big fan of the song. perhaps a kneejerk reaction to the idea of the title track of a guy's first album released after becoming really famous featuring morose talk of radio interviews.

straight up now tell me will I be a fucking lump forever? (some dude), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

I love how unabashedly beautiful Expecting to Fly is - after Buffalo Springfield NY never really went full-tilt for gorgeous again. It's such a young man's song.

Get wolves (DL), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, "Expecting to Fly" wouldn't make my top 100, very dull half-realized track imo....and right above "Revolution Blues" makes it worse....

theStalePrince, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

I do feel that On the Beach's longtime unavailability plays a part in its present stature--if it had been Zuma you couldn't buy on CD instead, I wonder if the situation would be different.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

reading the rhapsodic descriptions of the song's production and it's "groundbreaking" construction in "Shakey" just made me wonder if I was listening to a different song

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

(re: Expecting to Fly)

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, much lower than I expected. As much as I love "After the Gold Rush," I always found the cheers when Neil sings "And I felt like gettin' high" on the (otherwise great) Live Rust version to be a stadium rock nadir.

― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, July 11, 2012 10:17 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^ no way, you're thinking of the rasta jive blackface routine during Cortez

Never cared much for ohio or expecting to fly....ohio has a good riff

I honestly could have put about all of tonights the night on, but those were the three I had

albuquerques opening line is one of those classic neil lines that really affects me and I couldn't say why:

And they say
That Santa Fe
Is less than 90 miles away

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil7.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

I dunno if I would say "This Note's For You" is better per se (I wouldn't put it in the top 10 Neil songs or anything) but it's certainly more fun to listen to than "Expecting to Fly", at least in my case

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

albuquerques opening line is one of those classic neil lines that really affects me and I couldn't say why:

And they say
That Santa Fe
Is less than 90 miles away

the legendary and mysterious land of Santa Fe... Neil should maybe look at a map sometime lol

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

but yeah I love it too, great song

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

He was fumbling around for his car keys when he wrote that.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

i'm not a big fan of the song. perhaps a kneejerk reaction to the idea of the title track of a guy's first album released after becoming really famous featuring morose talk of radio interviews.

The thing is, Neil was bitching about being famous BEFORE he was famous (See: Buffalo Springfield, "Out of My Mind")

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

Which it's disappointing that neil doesn't do tell me went cuz he doesn't know what it's about, I consider that maybe the hallmark of his great songwriting, this weird ambiguity

It's when he's real literal - this notes for you - is when he sucks

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

I think I can "sing" every last guitar note in "Cowgirl."

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

so am I right in expecting that "Cowgirl" vs. "Down by The River" is pretty much a Veronica/Betty thing?......my girl lost!

theStalePrince, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

Jughead = "Last Trip to Tulsa"?

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

Btw I felt the title tracks to everybody knows kind of slipped by with out enough praise for being a to ten guitar rock song ever, far too low
Love cowgirl, but now prefer the fillmore vers of that & down by the river slightly

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think any great ”lost” reissue thing lived up to my expectations like fillmore

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

thx for reminding me to pull out that Fillmore record more often, that one is really good

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

yeah when i want to hear cowgirl, i go to the fillmore version. neil is so amazing there that he completely forgot how to play guitar like that for about five years.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

The original is so much a part of my DNA at this point, I don't think it'd be possible for me to prefer another version, but I have Fillmore, so I'll give it another listen.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah ever since getting the Fillmore disc I never play the album versions of the guitar epics - don't even know if I remember them that well! Do they have anything quite like Nitzsche's electric piano lurking at the bottom of the mix?

boxall, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

I'm hoping Veronica is next. Can't stand either of 'em personally, although I do like the Low & Dirty 3 cover of "River".

Jeff W, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think any great ”lost” reissue thing lived up to my expectations like fillmore OTM

boxall, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

The Cowgirl solo is a thing of rare and powerful beauty.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

Which it's disappointing that neil doesn't do tell me went cuz he doesn't know what it's about, I consider that maybe the hallmark of his great songwriting, this weird ambiguity

Last performance: 2011-05-11, Massey Hall, Toronto, Ontario, Canada

cwkiii, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

One of my big surprises researching covers was finding the Byrds' version of "Cowgirl."

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

Cowgirl was at 34 for me, while DBTR was at 32. Guess I'm a little burnt on both of them, but I will absolutely take a live version of either over the studio cuts.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil6.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

the intro to studio "Cowgirl" works v v well for kicking off late-night college radio, though--live versions can't match it!

theStalePrince, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

TOO LOW!!!

Had this at, um, #6. :-)

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

The "ma, send me money now" verse coming out of nowhere one of the greatest imaginative/intuitive leaps ever, I think.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

ha, i cut CG, because i figured it'd be high anyway. but what a great song/riff.
Byrds' version of "Cowgirl" is really nice!

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

"Cinnamon Girl" was my #1. I love the song, but it was also a nickname I gave to my wife two years before we started dating. That was 20 years ago. Damn.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

Much more poetic than if you'd gone with "Motorcycle Mama."

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

Ah, some of mine are placing now. The intro to Cowgirl is all-time - so ominous yet inevitable.

On The Beach was my no.1. My first exposure was in a documentary when bbc4 ran a Neil Young night. It had this soundtrack full of incredible tunes I didn't know, which turned out to mostly be OTB cuts, so its non-availability was a huge factor for me.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

Everyone familiar with the alternate "single" mix of CG? Anyone prefer it?

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know about the mix, but I assume the single eliminates the coda? Or do AM deejays just end it earlier?

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, with whitten's vocals more prominent? it's aight.
here's another interesting alternate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyK00lIRxUo

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link

I have the single. It's...innarresting. Loses the guitar erruption at the end. Overall, not as good as the album cut.

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

"Cinnamon Girl" crossed with "Sea of Madness"...I like!

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

yeah it's kinda groovy.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil5.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

On another borad I used to be on, someone had the handle "Cinnamon Girl". Everyone assumed she was a Neil fan, but she said she chose that moniker because she likes cinnamon and had never even heard of the Neil Young song until everyone asked her about it

Lee626, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

Now this one I don't really get.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

Love the dancing "Road Eyes" in this clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XWHF27R0AA

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

Disregard all my skepticism about On the Beach when it comes to this one.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

man you guys REALLY overrate side 2 of OTB

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, man...the Road Eyes danced to "Cinnamon Girl" at that '78 show I saw. Neil wore exactly the same outfit, too.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

man you guys REALLY overrate side 2 of OTB

Who are you, Al Schmitt?

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

"Ambulance Blues" was my number two!

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

I have no idea who that is, so probably not

xp

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

impossible to overrate side 2 of on the beach imo

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

"Ambulance Blues" is my pick of the Beach blues cuts.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

My #2. Astounding song. His voice is unusually beautiful here and the whole thing makes me think of Elliott Gould in The Long Goodbye for some reason.

And there ain't nothin' like a friend
Who can tell you you're just pissin' in the wind

Get wolves (DL), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

I knew the riff long before the song itself, then when I finally found out the title I mistakenly thought it was "Cinema Girl" for awhile xxxpost

aerosmith suck because their corporate rock that sucks (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

Had Ambulance Blues at #3. Saw him do it solo acoustic in 99 from the fourth row. Just about blew my mind. SO SO SO amazing.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, man...the Road Eyes danced to "Cinnamon Girl" at that '78 show I saw. Neil wore exactly the same outfit, too.

Did Pancho wear that Canadians jersey too?

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

Al produced the Airplane, too. Yeah, Marlowe thinking about Terry Lennox--nice connection.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

I have no idea who that is, so probably not

He was the producer of side 2, who quit when Neil insisted on using his rough mixes of the songs (prepared for party) on the album.

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

"Ambulance" is perfect for first six minutes or so. The interplay between Rusty's fiddle and what Neil's doing is beautiful. Then it kind of stumbles a bit? Or wears out its welcome anyway. Last two verses are relatively weak IMHO, esp. the couplet that DL quotes! Love the 'clonk' near the end though.

Jeff W, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

hmm has Cortez not appeared yet...? Would be okay with that beating pretty much everything in the top 10 so far tbh

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

"Expecting to Fly" is the only surprise I'm surprised to see this high, besides all the "TTN" stuff. Beginning to think lots of my stuff won't make it, particularly late period stuff. I blame the ditch.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

Okay I was wrong, Ambulance Blues is lovely

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

At this point, I am feeling rather certain that my #2 did not chart. No one else loves "Love Art Blues"?!

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

Last two verses are relatively weak IMHO
i dunno, the "never knew a man who told so many lies" line is pretty powerful to me.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

The final verse is probably my single favourite topical reportage ever--that, or "Trouble Comin' Every Day." It required great restraint not to go for a third Nixon image.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil4.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

She was originally my waitress for "Country Girl"'s inevitable Top 10 finish. I moved her over to "Hurricane" instead.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

I love the fake strings on this. String generator. Same device used on P-Funk's "Flashlight," among others, I believe.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

My #23. Used to like this more before I heard Adam Sandler do it. And the Mission.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

haha wow okay I didn't know that! strings have always sounded weird to me on this

xp

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

I used to like this song more before Neil did it nine million times on tour. It's still pretty amazing tho, it's a very durable song

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

So it looks like Guitar Neil takes the top 4.

xpost--Top 3. Best version of Like A Hurricane is on Live Rust

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

I'm looking over my ballot and those that haven't yet placed either are unlikely to or seem unlikely to be top 3... not sure what i'm missing

Lee626, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

Seeing Roxy Music doing Hurricane was something else.

exclusive to this pledge group - pleasure (weatheringdaleson), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rScBRKlTdoE/TH3DKyhbPcI/AAAAAAABdsA/QVCQqvk26Cs/s1600/IMG_0129.jpg
i think this is the synth they used -- the stringman!

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

"Like A Hurricane"-Pancho on Stringman xpost

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

There are some pretty mediocre covers of "Hurricane" out there.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

i like the roxy music version, kinda tropical stormy. didn't vote for LAH, but i love it (how many times can i say that?)

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

I was thinking of the Arp Solina.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

How do you rate the Unplugged pipe organ version?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

^^^very highly

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

it's almost creepy in its etherealness

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

it's guaranteed to irritate my wife

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

[but i love it]

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

The Unplugged version was the first Neil Young song I ever consciously listened to. It began there.

Get wolves (DL), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

Not a fan personally. Like A Hurricane needs guitar

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

"Like A Hurricane" is the epic where I think the album cut is routinely bested live....

theStalePrince, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

Unplugged take is my go-to at this point.

Isn't the album cut a live recording anyway?

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

I think Neil's guitar tone on "Hurricane" is one of music's perfect sounds. (Love the Roxy cover, too.)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

it took forEVER for me to hear the original version of Like A Hurricane - it showed up on pretty much every Neil live album/bootleg, but for some reason American Stars n Bars was kind of hard to track down in the 90s.

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

don't think it's live on American Stars n Bars

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

so am I right in expecting that "Cowgirl" vs. "Down by The River" is pretty much a Veronica/Betty thing?......my girl lost!

I guess that makes me Archie, because I couldn't really make up my mind -- they were both top 5 for me.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

Isn't the album cut a live recording anyway?

Backing track cut live in studio, vocal overdubbed later.

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

Love the live versions of "Cinnamon Girl," but the handclaps on the studio version make that shit lift off the ground.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

there's a scene in Coming Home which uses Expecting To Fly and it's just about my favourite pop song/cinema sync of ALL TIME

Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

up there with Taxi Driver/Late For The Sky

Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

"Expecting To Fly" works pretty well in Fear & Loathing... too.

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

I'd forgotten about that...Is "Mr. Soul" maybe in the big party scene at the end?

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't have a #1 as such but gave most points to "Hurricane". Love both the original and the Unplugged and Weld versions. Also, possibly the only bearable use of the Stringman ever.

Jeff W, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil3.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

Man, work is really getting in the way of this countdown. "Ambulance Blues" my #4 too. Ditched like a Hurrican for other guitar epics. Decided to limit them and I really didn't dig the feel of LAH for a long time.

grandavis, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

This was a surprise to me--a welcome one, but a surprise. I was expecting it to finish at least 10-15 spots lower than "Cowgirl."

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

But I did vote for that one!

grandavis, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

for me Cowgirl makes Down By The River feel really minor, so I didn't give it any

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

The way the guitars circle each other on "Down By The River" is all time for me (my #1 by the way). Blew my 14 year-old mind and still does today.

grandavis, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

"Down By The River" almost became a new song to me with the remaster. I thought I was tired of it but really I'd never heard it.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

I voted for both, but the repeated note in "River" put it ahead of "Cowgirl" for me.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

i was predicting this image for down by the river
http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/SNL_5862ec_492467.jpg

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

"Mr. Soul" is in the party scene in Shampoo, IIRC soundtracking Beatty chasing after Goldie at said party.

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

Guitar Neil definitely holds a lot of sway with me.

grandavis, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

My #1, too. For me the ultimate Neil guitar song (tho like I said, just a few inches above "Cowgirl").

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, one of my all time favorites. the opening guitar is up there with "marquee moon" in terms of pure musical bliss.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

"This much madness/is too much sorrow"--don't know if there's a better summation of the late '60s, likely without even consciously trying.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

I can never listen to Down by the River without thinking about the time I heard it in a coffee shop in college and an irate middle-aged woman complained to the coffee-jerk about having to listen to such a violent/mysogynistic song and demanded that it be turned off

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

#2 is gonna surprise some people, I suspect!

theStalePrince, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link

That's what I meant, getting my Ashbys crossed...no big party scene in Coming Home.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link

The thing is, Neil was bitching about being famous BEFORE he was famous (See: Buffalo Springfield, "Out of My Mind")

― Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:23 PM (37 minutes ago)

Late responding, but the sheer chutzpah of this got "Out of My Mind" a high rank and lots of points on my ballot.

Neil Jung (WmC), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

Put me down for Team River. All you Team Cowgirl people can suck it!

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

Belatedly realizing that one of my top 5 never placed. I guess I'm the only one who thinks "Burned" is his best Springfield song.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

coincidentally, i've been counting down down by the river videos from 1969-2010 over here. http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

that buzzing, repeated note at the beginning of the first solo in down by the river is so transcendent and amazing

the sun, a great connoisseur of eggs (buh), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

"Burned" did well--7 votes, #79.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

As mentioned above, had this at 32, Cowgirl at 34.

xp I also ranked "Burned" as my highest Springfield cut, at #25. Sad to see it missed.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

"An ambulance can only go so fast" is the most devastating line I've ever heard.

coat news for people who love boat shoes (how's life), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

All's I'll say about those two ax epics is that possibly my not owning the remasters has smothered their appeal.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

otmfm (xpost re that line)

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

So it's just down to Cripple Creek Ferry and Last Dance. Which will win?

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

t-boooone!!!

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

"Change Your Mind" ftw

boxall, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

Both Cowgirl... and ...River narrowly missed out on my ballot, I think I prefer the former these days for the harmonies in the chorus.

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

(Someone tell Alfred the coast is not quite clear.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

i almost voted for change your mind. ALMOST.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

Hungry as hell, but I want to see this end before leaving to get lunch!

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil2.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

Alfred, the remaster of Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere was the most revelatory to these ears. Vast, vast, improvement.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

I only voted for one of these top 2, so I'm hoping that put it over the top...

xpost: It worked!

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

Now I've got Last Dance stuck in my head. Everybody, sing: No, no no. No, no, no. No, no no.

YAY! My #1 wins! I'm so happy.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, one of my all time favorites. the opening guitar is up there with "marquee moon" in terms of pure musical bliss.

― tylerw, Wednesday, July 11, 2012 2:14 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Definitely; actually, discovered both "River" and "Moon" via Spin's 4th anniversary issue's "greatest guitar moments" list.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

So Powederfinger wins over Cortez? Seriously? I don't get you people.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

'Grandpa's Interview' it is then.

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

I actually would have bet a decent amount of money on this placing first. And, after trading places back and forth with "Down by the River" for most of the voting, it looked pretty safe at about 50 ballots.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

Alfred, the remaster of Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere was the most revelatory to these ears. Vast, vast, improvement.

― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, July 11, 2012 2:23 P

Sold. "Round and Round" and the title track made by ballot.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

Oddly enough, #2 and #1 both involve bad things coming from boats.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

Soldier it is then.

exclusive to this pledge group - pleasure (weatheringdaleson), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

I actually would have bet a decent amount of money on this placing first.

Same here!

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

I don't get you people.

^^^

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

Unlike "Hurricane," "Cortez" generally inspires excellent covers.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

I don't mind "Cortez" as a jam, but the lyrics really kill it for me.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

Where the lyrics to "Powderfinger" I think are some of his best ever.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

I think La Lechera summed it up nicely:

Cortez the Killer (predicted winner, how could it not be as it is the best song ever)
Powderfinger - look out mama there's a white boat comin up the river = every Herzog movie, which reminds me of Cortez the Killer, which makes me happy

Note: she had these at 8 & 9 on her ballot.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

wow!--I'd assumed "Cortez" the obvious #1--would've guessed "Powerderfinger" somewhere in the 15-20 range before the poll started......

theStalePrince, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

Cortez = 44 for me. Just never really loved that pace, never took to the story. It just seems so detached from all the rest of his catalog to these ears.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

Cortez has my favorite guitar solo ever.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

I threw Powderfinger and Cortez around the same number of points, so whatevs.

Cortez would be nothing without the sudden switch to first person narrative though. Interesting to read on Wiki that there was originally another verse that got lost because the console went dead!

Jeff W, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

I love "Cortez"'s lyrics, especially "I still can't remember when/or how I lost my way." Quoted that in my graduating high-school-yearbook photo.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

Didn't Neil say something like, "Eh, I never liked that verse anyway" ?

xp

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

interesting disagreements here! it's the lyrics that kill "Cortez" for me.....they're, how to say? I think they're bullshit.

Neil is often weird, awkward, cryptic, allusive, druggy; and I love him in all those modes. But "Cortez" is bullshit.

theStalePrince, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

so what I'm taking away from this is that people prefer long, rambling, wasted Neil to all his other incarnations. which I guess is not surprising... but I wanted to be surprised!

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

Yes! The lyric-shift is everything in Cortez (Paul Simon is the master at this technique btw)

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link

Danger Bird >>> Cortez

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link

The last verse is semi-redeeming, but it's hard to overcome "The people worked together/And they lifted many stones."

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

Honestly not sure why you'd say that about "Cortez"'s lyrics--weird, cryptic, allusive, and druggy is a great description, and I think "Cortez" fits into that perfectly.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

The version he played in June '03 during the Greendale was spectacular, I gotta say.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

I'll retreat; it's hard for me to start breaking down a song I've listened to ten million times line by line. The lyrics just float by, carried along by everything else.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

^ this.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

"Numbers Add up to Nothing"= alternate poll title.....

Terrific work, clemenza--enjoyed the hell out of it!

xp: hmmmm--fair question? ok: it's a kind of abstract mythmaking, it doesn't persuade me that it has anything to do with NY's own perspective or experience, but rather seems like a distillation of the usual stuff about "primitive peoples"...

theStalePrince, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

Didn't Neil say something like, "Eh, I never liked that verse anyway"?
Yeah, apparently. Not that I trust anything much he says about the merits of what he writes. (cf. previous discussions itt)

Jeff W, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

http://phildellio.tripod.com/neil1.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

Thought "Cortez" would be super high, though I had Danger Bird and Down By The River much higher, but did not expect the #1 at all.

grandavis, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

it's hard for me to start breaking down a song I've listened to ten million times line by line. The lyrics just float by, carried along by everything else.

my sense about most Young epics...? I'm surprised (in a good way) that you guys remember lines. All I can remember about "Cortez" is NY going cod reggae on DANCING UPON DA WATAH MAN

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

I take issue with the notion that "Powderfinger" is long, rambling, or wasted.

boxall, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

whoops! you were retreating while I was editing....no need to retreat! people's tastes in NY lyrics are very subjective; I mean, I have jr high school friends who love him as much as I do and we would all but come to blows over certain lines that allegedly "sucked"

theStalePrince, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't vote for it, but I'm okay with it at #1--it's a great song, and an unpredictable #1 (within reason) is not a bad thing.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

so what I'm taking away from this is that people prefer long, rambling, wasted Neil to all his other incarnations.

The rest of the top 5 maybe, but I don't think this is fair to "Powderfinger" at all.

xposts!

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

DANCING UPON DA WATAH MAN - what version is this from?

boxall, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

iirc, that faux-reggae bit is only on Live Rust (and in the film). I've never heard any other version of "Cortez" where that happens.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

Powderfinger is perfect. His best lyrics, his best riff, his best solo, his best singing. His best song.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

Not before or since have I heard epics as contained, purposeful of motion, bracing, and intelligent as "Powderfinger" and "Sedan Delivery." I can't think of anyone making music this loud, allusive, and elusive, not even from the punks.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

iirc, that faux-reggae bit is only on Live Rust

yep

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

I've often heard Neil's epics be described as a slog. I disagree for the most part, except for when it comes to "Powderfinger". he single reason why I don't rate Rust as high as most people.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

Really surprised at the no.1 - it doesn't stand out for me, and never even considered longlisting it. No idea the rest of you would.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

Had Powderfinger at #5, but I could easily have had it at #1. My whole top 10 was pretty interchangable in my mind, honestly.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

I first heard "Powderfinger" in the Cowboy Junkies' cover (which is pretty good), and was completely baffled by it. It's still mysterious to me -- the basic narrative tracks pretty clearly, but there's so much left out. It feels very detailed on the one hand but also enigmatic and allegorical.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

holy shit @ powderfinger being #1, ya'll are cool ppl

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

The line goes on to mean something else, but "think of me as one you'd never figured" is pretty definitive as a career statement.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

My top 10 (out of 30) all got 15 pts, but Powderfinger was #1.

exclusive to this pledge group - pleasure (weatheringdaleson), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

"Powderfinger" wasn't high on my list (#39 out of 40), but as Horse epics go, I'll take it above "Hurricane" in a heartbeat.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

And clemenza, brilliant job on the poll, especially with the photos.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

find it kinda hilarious/appropriate that the number 2 song features some pretty glaring mistakes

xp

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

Really surprised at the no.1 - it doesn't stand out for me, and never even considered longlisting it. No idea the rest of you would.

Listen to it again!

cwkiii, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

Huge kudos and thanks clemenza. Lots of fun.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

I've heard the song a million times, but "When the first shot hit the dock, I saw it comin'" still gets me every time.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks clemenza. Loved the images too - will shamelessly rip off if I ever do another of these.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

like of COURSE Neil's best song features dropped beats and flubbed bass notes

xp

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

I will xps

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

Many thanks to Clemenza and his brilliant images. There will always be a place for this poll in the Deep Forbidden Lake of my heart.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

When the first shot hit the dock, I saw it comin'

hmm always heard this as DOG, not dock - which seems more tragic somehow

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

Also, I don't think I would consider "Powderfinger" one of NY's "epics" -- I mean, it's under 6 minutes and doesn't have a giant-ass solo section or anything. "Cortez" is in that epic style, as are the obvious "Cowgirl" and "DBTR" but I think of "Powderfinger" as a story song more than anything else.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

Neither "Cortez" nor "Powderfinger" ever did much for me, didn't vote for either, but someone must like them and evidently Neil does since those are concert staples. OTOH am I the only vote for "You and Me"? (that was "our song" for, well, someone I really liked and me).

Thx for the great poll and great images Clemenza!

Lee626, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

And yes, awesome job all around, Clemenza!

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

Exemplary roll-out, clemenza. Bar raised.

Jeff W, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

fabulous job!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

Seriously, I didn't "get" "Powderfinger" for the LONGEST time, but it crept up on me over time and once it hit me, it revealed itself to be just the perfect song. It really is SO simple that it could sneak by if you let it.

xposts to Ismael

cwkiii, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

Powderfinger is 6 minutes that feel like 10. Great lyrics, but slog, slog, slog.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

Powderfinger would have been a fantastic Skynyrd song.

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link

That was the idea; supposedly Van Zant was up for recording it.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link

The line goes on to mean something else, but "think of me as one you'd never figured" is pretty definitive as a career statement.

That's why it's the epigraph to Shakey! :)

cwkiii, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link

Clemenza, this entire thing, from your original post to the screencaps to the post-mortems which haven't even happened yet, has been welcoming, challenging, informative and fun. Not enough superlatives. Thanks.

exclusive to this pledge group - pleasure (weatheringdaleson), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

Neil has routinely stretched that song over the 6 minute mark live - I totally consider it in the same class as Like a Hurricane, Down by the River, Cowgirl, Cortez, etc.

xp

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, high fives Clemenza, great poll.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks. I sat down this morning and checked point totals for 16 albums. These were the Top 10:

1. After the Gold Rush (1970) -- 11 songs/1,861 points
2. On the Beach (1974) -- 8/1,729
3. Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere (1969) -- 7/1,607
4. Rust Never Sleeps (1979) -- 9/1,598
5. Tonight's the Night (1975) -- 11/1,414
6. Harvest (1972) -- 9/1,390
7. Zuma (1975) -- 9/1,155
8. Time Fades Away (1973) -- 8/766
9. American Stars 'n Bars (1977) -- 7/699
10. Freedom (1989) -- 10/652

Really impressive: from Everybody through Zuma, the only song not get a vote was "There's a World."

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

ah, I'd often wondered about Skynyrd/"Powderfinger"......they might have been too funky to play it right, though!

theStalePrince, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

I had 'Powderfinger' at #20 - as with cwkiii it was one that suddenly hit me as being great relatively recently, wouldn't ever have guessed it would be #1 but it's a fine choice.

The poll overall has been great, thanks so much clemenza.

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

Fun poll, not surprised by the winner, mine was unranked but powder finger is about everything good about neil in one song

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

I should get away from this chair for a bit...Feel free to start posting your own lists; here's mine. I'll post a summary of the Top 75 later on.

1. “Only Love Can Break Your Heart” – 25
2. “Cinnamon Girl” – 23
3. “Cowgirl in the Sand” – 21
4. “Ambulance Blues” – 20
5. “Country Girl” – 20
6. “Tell Me Why” – 20
7. “Cortez the Killer” – 17
8. “Sugar Mountain” – 15
9. “Till the Morning Comes” – 15
10. “Ocean Girl” – 15
11. “Barstool Blues” – 12
12. “After the Gold Rush” – 9
13. “Bad Fog of Loneliness” – 9
14. “Cripple Creek Fairy” – 9
15. “Journey Through the Past” – 9
16. “Helpless” – 8
17. “Roll Another Number” – 7
18. “Love in Mind” – 6
19. “Over and Over” – 6
20. “The Emperor of Wyoming” – 6
21. “Albuquerque” – 6
22. “Ohio” – 6
23. “Tired Eyes” – 6
24. “Scenery” – 5
25. “A Man Needs a Maid” – 5
26. “Sea of Madness” – 5
27. “Are You Ready for Country” – 5
28. “The Loner” – 5
29. “Only Love Can Break Your Heart” (Saint Etienne) – 5
30. “Wonderin’” – 5
31. “Comes a Time” – 5
32. “Down by the River” – 5
33. “Soldier” – 5
34. “Prisoners of Rock ‘N’ Roll” – 5
35. “Slowly Burning” – 5
36. “There Goes My Babe” – 5
37. “Hangin’ On a Limb” – 5
38. “It’s My Time” – 5
39. “Out of My Mind” – 5
40. “Pocahontas” – 5

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

1. Stringman – 30 pts
2. Homegrown – 26 pts
3. Transformer Man – 23 pts
4. Too Far Gone – 19 pts
5. Rockin’ in the Free World – 17 pts
6. Long May You Run – 16 pts
7. This Note’s For You – 15 pts
8. Yonder Stands the Sinner – 14 pts
9. L.A. – 13 pts
10. Lookout Joe -12 pts
11. White Line – 11 pts
12. Crime in the City – 10 pts
13. Bite the Bullet – 9 pts
14. Roll Another Number (For the Road) – 8pts
15. Come Along and Say You Will – 7 pts
16. Dead Man soundtrack – organ solo – 6 pts
17. Oh, Lonesome Me – 5 pts
18. I Believe in You – 4 pts
19. The Loner – 3 pts
20. Lookin’ for a Love – 2 pts

Really pissed my number 1 didn't place at all. FUCK YOU GUYS

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

"Stringman"! I forgot about it!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

Great poll, great rollout -- thanks, clemenza!

Neil Jung (WmC), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

Late cut for me shakey....btw your ballot really goes against the canon!

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

hm! i actually cut powderfinger at the last minute. didn't think it'd be the winner, though!
this is great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTV6QB3btQs

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

here's my unranked ballot

Helpless
Razor Love
Down by the River
Only Love Can Break Your Heart
Cortez the Killer
Expecting to Fly
The Old Laughing Lady
Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
Birds
Time Fades Away

Don't Be Denied
See The Sky About To Rain
Motion Pictures
Ambulance Blues
Tired Eyes
Albuquerque
Don't Cry No Tears
Barstool Blues
Will To Love
Pocahontas

Sedan Delivery
Surfer Joe And Moe The Sleaze
Transformer Man
Cocaine Eyes
Country Home
Crime In The City
Give Me Strength
Harvest Moon
Pushed It Over The End
Danger Bird

Cowgirl in the Sand
Too Far Gone
Little Wing
Speakin’ Out
Revolution Blues
Mellow My Mind
Old Man
Through My Sails
Safeway Cart
No One Seems To Know

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

Here is mine, recommend everyone check out a live "Pushed It Over The End" if you can.

1. Down By The River
2. After The Gold Rush
3. Revolution Blues
4. Ambulance Blues
5. Don’t Cry No Tears
6. Walk On
7. Out On The Weekend
8. Pushed It Over The End
9. Star of Bethlehem
10. Cinnamon Girl
11. Only Love Can Break Your Heart
12. Danger Bird
13. Barstool Blues
14. Harvest
15. Harvest Moon
16. The Needle And The Damage Done
17. Round And Round
18. Pardon My Heart
19. Comes A Time
20. Sugar Mountain
21. Tell Me Why
22. Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
23. Don’t Let It Bring You Down
24. Mellow My Mind
25. Powderfinger
26. Pocahontas
27. For The Turnstiles
28. Don’t Be Denied
29. Lotta Love
30. Sedan Delivery
31. Bad Fog Of Loneliness
32. Broken Arrow
33. Cortez The Killer
34. Motion Pictures
35. A Man Needs A Maid
36. Give Me Strength
37. Old Man
38. Down To The Wire
39. War Song
40. Home On The Range

grandavis, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

Surprised only one song from Ragged Glory made it...anyway...

1. When You Dance I Can Really Love
2. Don't Cry
3. Barstool Blues
4. After the Gold Rush
5. Mr. Soul
6. Everybody Knows this is Nowhere
7. Come On Baby, Let's Go Downtown
8. Tonight's the Night part 1
9. Cinnamon Girl
10. Down By the River
11. Country Home
12. Ohio
13. Guitar Solo No. 5
14. Eldorado
15. Cortez the Killer
16. Don't Let it Bring you Down
17. Mellow My Mind
18. Over and Over
19. Cocaine Eyes
20. Arc
21. Love and Only Love
22. Pocahontas
23. Lookout Joe
24. Heavy Love
25. Time Fades Away
26. Borrowed Tune
27. Rockin' in the Free World
28. Thrasher
29. Down to the Wire
30. Big Time
31. Don't Cry No Tears
32. Thrasher
33. Lookin' for a Love
34. Last Dance
35. Love and War
36. Crime in the City (Sixty to Zero part 1)
37. Walk On
38. Sedan Delivery
39. Powderfinger
40. Hangin' on a Limb

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

I had Stringman!

1. Winterlong

2. Love Art Blues

3. Ambulance Blues

4. Pocahontas

5. Powderfinger

6. Cinnamon Girl

7. Barstool Blues

8. I’m The Ocean

9. The Needle and the Damage Done

10. Revolution Blues

11. Hey Hey My My (Into the Black)

12. Thrasher

13. On The Way Home

14. Only Love Can Break Your Heart

15. I Believe in You

16. Traces

17. Harvest

18. Heart of Gold

19. Soldier

20. Sleeps With Angels

21. Tired Eyes

22. On The Beach

23. Like a Hurricane

24. Stringman

25. Burned

26. Cocaine Eyes

27. Philadelphia

28. Time Fades Away

29. Everybody Knows This is Nowhere

30. Love In Mind

31. Cripple Creek Ferry

32. Down By The River

33. Birds

34. Cowgirl in the Sand

35. Pushed It Over the End

36. Albuquerque

37. See the Sky About to Rain

38. I’ve Been Waiting for You

39. Don’t Let It Bring You Down

40. Deep Forbidden Lake

and my next 10, which didn't count for the poll, but what the hell:

41. Love Is a Rose

42. Don’t Be Denied

43. Ohio

44. Cortez the Killer

45. My Heart

46. Expecting to Fly

47. Shots

48. Old Ways (specifically the live version from the Shocking Pinks tour with the awesome backing vocals and just Neil on guitar -- SHIT SMOKES!!!)

49. Kinda Fonda Wanda (same as above...)

50. Journey Through the Past

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

1. Welfare Mothers
2. Sedan Delivery
3. Winterlong
4. Ambulance Blues
5. Cocaine Eyes
6. When You Dance I Can Really Love
7. I’m The Ocean
8. Like an Inca
9. Lookin’ for a Love
10 Over and Over
11. Drive Back
12. Round and Round
13. Thrasher
14. Fuckin’ Up
15. Drive By
16. Don’t Cry
17. Hippie Dream
18. Love in Mind
19. Comes A Time
20. Wrecking Ball
21. Don’t Be Denied
22. Everyone Knows This is Nowhere
23. Barstool Blues
24. Powderfinger
25. Campaigner
26. Goin’ Back
27. Safeway Cart
28. No More
29. Don’t Cry No Tears
30. On The Beach

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

Late cut for me shakey....btw your ballot really goes against the canon!

well I figured this was going to be a poll that got a LOT of votes, and the canonical stuff was gonna get covered no matter what - so I went the strategic voting route and voted for stuff I thought would be underrepresented or could use additional points. just to make things innaresting

although I could totally make an argument that Stringman is genuinely his best/my favorite song - structurally, melodically and lyrically it's a real beauty

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

All unranked. Made the list:

Ambulance Blues
Don't Be Denied
Don't Cry No Tears
I Believe in You
Look Out for My Love
Lookout Joe
Powderfinger
Sedan Delivery
Tell Me Why

missed out:

Beautiful Bluebird
Change Your Mind
Down to the Wire
Flying On the Ground Is Wrong
Little Wing
One of These Days
Organ Solo (Dead Man)
Razor Love
Roger and Out
Southern Pacific
Wonderin'

boxall, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

yeahhh, so nothing from sleeps with angels made it?

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

I had two unreleased cuts on mine... who else voted for anything that isn't out officially anywhere?

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

*raises hand*

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

Come Along And Say You Will

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i had No One Seems To Know, Give Me Strength and Pushed It Over The End

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

I debated long and hard about which outtake to include from yr Sad Movies comp, tyler

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

Down by the River -- 30
Walk On -- 25
Only Love Can Break Your Heart -- 20
Burned -- 15
Cowgirl in the Sand -- 15
Ohio -- 15
Like a Hurricane -- 15
Rockin in the Free World -- 10
After the Gold Rush --10
Powderfinger -- 10
The Needle and the Damage Done -- 10
Winterlong -- 10
Cinnamon Girl -- 10
Hey Hey My My (Into the Black) -- 10
Sedan Delivery -- 10
On the Beach -- 10
Southern Man -- 10
Mr. Soul -- 5
Thrasher -- 5
Moving Pictures -- 5
Welfare Mothers -- 5
Don't Let It Bring You Down -- 5
Long May You Run --5
Heart of Gold --5
Sugar Mountain -- 5
The Loner -- 5
Helpless -- 5
Wrecking Ball -- 5
See the Sky About to Rain -- 5
Revolution Blues -- 5

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

Pushed It Over The End is actually released though, on a 12" single (!)

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

haha, yeah i guess so -- like an italian only CSNY thing?

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

My points were as follows:

25. On The Beach
21. I'm The Ocean
19. Time Fades Away
17. Song X
15. Natural Beauty
12. Will To Love
12. Silver & Gold
12. Through My Sails

11. Revolution Blues
10. Words - Between The Lines Of Age
10. Alabama
 9. Love And War

 9. Southern Man
 9. Cowgirl In The Sand
 8. Last Dance
 8. My My, Hey Hey (Out of the Blue)
 8. Crime In The City
 7. Ohio
 7. Rockin' In The Free World
 7. Love In Mind
 6. Like A Hurricane
 6. Fontainebleau
 6. Tell Me Why
 5. Goin' Back
 5. Midnight On The Bay

 5. Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
 4. Human Highway
 4. Sample & Hold
 4. Don't Let It Bring You Down
 4. Computer Age
 4. Running Dry (Requiem for the Rockets)

 4. A Man Needs A Maid
 4. New Mama
 4. Surfer Joe & Moe the Sleazebag
 4. Hawks & Doves
 4. Weight Of The World
 4. When I Hold You In My Arms
 4. Bandit
 4. Southern Pacific
 4. High-Flying Bird

Bold didn't place, though I can't remember exactly and may have made an error or two.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

Alfred I'm glad that despite our differences on the ax epics, we can agree on "Wrecking Ball."

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

haha, yeah i guess so -- like an italian only CSNY thing?

― tylerw

Yep, on a one-sided 12" in an Italian box set. I'd bet it's gonna turn up on Archives II though, or the long-rumored live CSNY 1974 set.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

1. Powderfinger 30
The Needle and the Damage Done 25
Tonight’s The Night 18
I’m The Ocean 17
Down By The River 15
Walk On 10
Tell Me Why 10
Pocahontas 10
Barstool Blues 10
Ordinary People 10
Ambulance Blues 8
Heart Of Gold 8
My My, Hey Hey (Out Of the Blue) 8
Thrasher 8
Tired Eyes 8
After The Gold Rush 8
Sugar Mountain 8
Helpless 8
Lookout Joe 8
Lookin’ For A Love 8
Look Out For My Love 8
Come On Baby Let’s Go Downtown 8
Big Time 8
Goin’ Home 8
Rockin’ In The Free World 8
Sedan Delivery 5
Cinnamon Girl 5
Don’t Be Denied 5
Too Far Gone 5
30. Trans Am 5

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks clemenza!

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

30 - Will to Love
30 - Ambulance Blues
30 - On the Beach
15 - Powderfinger
15 - Pocahontas
10 - Expecting to Fly
10 - Sugar Mountain
10 - Cortez the Killer
10 - Tired Eyes
10 - Albuquerque
10 - Old Man
10 - Heart of Gold
10 - Down by the River
10 - Tell Me Why
10 - Look Out for my love
10 - I Believe in You
5 - I Am a Child
5 - Ohio
5 - Peaceful Valley Boulevard
5 - Revolution Blues
5 - After the Gold Rush
5 - Barstool Blues
5 - Don't Cry No Tears
5 - From Hank to Hendrix
5 - Natural Beauty
5 - Words
5 - Out on the Weekend
5 - Like a Hurricane
5 - Cinnamon Girl
5 - Everybody Knows this is Nowhere

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

^ a good ballot

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

14 each for the first 10, 8 for the next 20.

Crime and the City
After the Goldrush (kd Lang)
Heart of Gold
Transformer Man
My Heart
My My, Hey Hey
Ambulance Blues
Only Love Can Break Your Heart (St Etienne)
Only Love Can Break Your Heart
Philadelphia

Out on the Weekend
Helpless
After The Goldrush
Needle and the Damage Done
Harvest Moon
Pocahontas
Sleeps With Angels
Birds
This Note's For You
Wrecking Ball (Emmylou Harris)
Unknown Legend
Walk With Me
Like a Hurricane
Will to Love
A Man Needs A Maid (with the LSO)
Harvest
It's A Dream
When I Hold You In My Arms
Mr Soul
Rockin' In The Free World

Must admit to feeling a little bit guilty about voting for St Etienne, but it's such a perfect cover version and personally is indelibly tied to the Freedom/Ragged Glory era when I first got into NY.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

all of these ballots are good

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

Cinnamon Girl - 30
Cortez The Killer - 20
Walk On - 20
Helpless - 15
For The Turnstiles - 15
Tonight's The Night - 10
Down By The River - 10
When You Dance You Can Really Love - 10
Time Fades Away - 10
Old Man - 10
Out On The Weekend - 10
LA - 10
Ohio - 10
Last Dance - 10
Dance, Dance, Dance - 10
Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere - 10
Like A Hurricane - 10
Cowgirl In The Sand - 10
After The Gold Rush - 10
Hey Hey, My My - 10
Mellow My Mind - 5
Sedan Delivery - 5
Ambulance Blues - 5
Wonderin' - 5
Don't Let It Bring You Down - 5
Barstool Blues - 5
Flying On The Ground Is Wrong - 5
Unknown Legend - 5
Fuckin' Up - 5
One Of These Days - 5

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

Helpless - 30
Ohio - 27
Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere - 24
Tell Me Why - 20
You And Me - 16
Powderfinger - 13
The Old Laughing Lady - 10
Long May You Run - 9
My My, Hey Hey - 9
Cinnamon Girl - 8
Pochahontas - 8
Southern Man - 7
Cowgirl In The Sand - 7
Like A Hurricane - 6
After The Gold Rush - 6
Peace And Love - 5
Don't Cry No Tears - 5
Unknown Legend - 5
Rapid Transit - 5
Transformer Man - 5
Rockin' In The Free World - 5
When You Dance, I Can Really Love - 5
Walk On - 5
Don't Let It Bring You Down - 5
I'm The Ocean - 5
This Note's For You - 5
Fuckin' Up - 5
The Needle And The Damage Done - 5
Look Out For My Love - 5
Words (Between The Lines Of Age) - 5
From Hank To Hendrix - 5
Revolution Blues - 5
Down My The River - 5
War Of Man - 5
Cortez The Killer - 5

straight up now tell me will I be a fucking lump forever? (some dude), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

Ambulance Blues -- 30
Tonight's the Night -- 25
Revolution Blues -- 20
Come On Baby Let's Go Downtown -- 15
Pocahontas -- 10
Sleeps with Angels -- 10
Wonderin' -- 10
I Am a Child -- 10
Comes a Time -- 10
The Needle and the Damage Done -- 10
Philadelphia -- 10
Cinnamon Girl -- 10
Like a Hurricane -- 10
See the Sky About to Rain -- 10
Sugar Mountain -- 10
When You Dance -- 10
Mansion on the Hill -- 10
Harvest Moon -- 10
Someone's Gonna Rescue You -- 10
Big Time -- 10

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

1. Albuquerque - 30 pts
2. On the Way Home - 29
3. Out of My Mind - 28
4. Down by the River - 18
5. Lookout Joe - 17
6. Expecting to Fly - 16
7. Four Strong Winds - 15
8. A Man Needs a Maid - 14
9. Cinnamon Girl - 13
10. Needle and the Damage Done - 12
11. Tonight's the Night - 11
12. Wrecking Ball - 7
13. I Am a Child - 5
14. Cortez the Killer - 5
15. I Believe in You - 5
16. Down to the Wire - 5
17. Fuckin' Up - 5
18. For the Turnstiles - 5
19. Star of Bethlehem - 5
20. The Old Laughing Lady - 5
21. Broken Arrow - 5
22. Mr. Soul - 5
23. Love in Mind - 5
24. Motor City - 5
25. L.A. - 5
26. Lotta Love - 5
27. Wonderin' - 5
28. Fallin' Off the Face of the Earth - 5
29. Burned - 5
30. Walk On - 5

Neil Jung (WmC), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

1. “Danger Bird” (30 points)
2. “Ambulance Blues” (30 points)
3. “Unknown Legend” (25 points)
4. “Rockin’ in the Free World (Electric)” (20 points)
5. “Tonight’s the Night” (20 points)
6. “Down By the River” (10 points)
7. “Expecting to Fly” (10 points)
8. “Fuckin’ Up” (10 points)
9. “Like A Hurricane” (10 points)
10. “Running Dry (Requiem for the Rockets)” (10 points)
11. “Albequerque” (10 points)
12. “Powderfinger” (10 points)
13. “Eldorado” (10 points)
14. “Helpless” (10 points)
15. “See the Sky About to Rain” (10 points)
16. “Sugar Mountain” (5 points)
17. “Razor Love” (5 points)
18. “Time Fades Away” (5 points)
19. “Old Man” (5 points)
20. “On the Beach” (5 points)
21. “Cortez the Killer” (5 points)
22. “Thrasher” (5 points)
23. “Ordinary People” (5 points)
24. “Hippie Dream” (5 points)
25. “Mr. Soul” (5 points)
26. “I’m The Ocean” (5 points)
27. “Ohio” (5 points)
28. “Mansion on the Hill” (5 points)
29. “Walk With Me” (5 points)
30. “Buffalo Springfield Again” (5 points)

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

Really impressed with the sheer array of songs picked in top 3s. Great variety.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link

top 10

30 Motion Pictures
25 Tired Eyes
25 Mellow My Mind
25 Don't Be Denied
20 Look Out For My Love
20 Revolution Blues
15 Cocaine Eyes
15 Powderfinger
15 Don't Let It Bring You Down
10 Lost In Space

next ten @ 5 points each:

Cowgirl in the Sand
Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
Down By The River
After the Gold Rush
Helpless
For The Turnstiles
Tonight's the Night
Like A Hurricane
Rocking in the Free World
I'm The Ocean

theStalePrince, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

pretty much impossible to come up with a bad neil young ballot!

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

oh I dunno, I would vote in WORST NEIL YOUNG SONG poll

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

did ANYBODY else vote "Lost In Space"? I was kinda trolling myself, but have an irrational love for the song.....also, what happened to "Borrowed Tune"? fell out of my top 20 at the last minute, but I always thought it was people's second fave on that LP....

theStalePrince, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

I'm celebrating the end of this poll by spinning Manassas...

10 POINTS EACH:

1. I Believe In You
2. Like A Hurricane
3. Time Fades Away
4. When You Dance, I Can Really Love
5. Love In Mind

8 POINTS EACH

6. Dangerbird
7. Pocahontas
8. Rockin’ In The Free World
9. Country Girl
10. Flying On The Ground Is Wrong
11. For The Turnstiles
12. Powderfinger
13. Don’t Be Denied
14. Hitchhiker
15. Fuckin’ Up
16. L.A.
17. A Man Needs A Maid (Massey Hall)
18. Heart of Gold (‘’)
19. Will To Love
20. On The Way Home
21. Cinnamon Girl
22. Down By The River
23. On The Beach
24. Cowgirl In The Sand
25. Sea of Madness
26. Love and Only Love

27. Don’t Cry No Tears
28. World on A String
29. Cortez The Killer
30. Do I Have To Come Right Out and Say It?
31. Pushed It Over The End
32. Last Dance

33. Lookout Joe
34. Don’t Cry
35. Love To Burn

7 POINTS EACH:

36. I’m The Ocean
37. Safeway Cart
38. Give Me Strength
39. I’ve Been Waiting For You
40. Goin’ Home

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

9. Country Girl

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

didn't keep my ballot, but top 3 ranked:
Pocahontas
Love In Mind
Flying On the Ground

making plans for nyquil (outdoor_miner), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

I should clarify: 'good ballot' = 'ballot quite like mine'

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

hahaha, I was going to say, hey Ismael Klata, you have a good ballot too! ;)

Will to Love did place, btw! (you had it in bold)

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

1. Expecting to Fly
2. Out on the Weekend
3. Tell Me Why
4. Albuquerque
5. Don't Let It Bring You Down
6. Birds
7. On the Beach
8. Danger Bird
9. Bad Fog of Loneliness
10. Lotta Love
11. Soldier
12. Heart of Gold
13. L.A.
14. The Loner
15. Only Love Can Break Your Heart
16. Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
17. Love in Mind
18. Ambulance Blues
19. Will to Love
20. Powderfinger
21. Tired Eyes
22. Pardon My Heart
23. Peace of Mind
24. Ohio
25. Look Out for My Love
26. Walk On
27. Cinnamon Girl
28. You and Me
29. Falling Off the Face of the Earth
30. Like a Hurricane
31. White Line
32. Don't Be Denied
33. Prime of Life
34. Drive By
35. Cortez the Killer
36. Rockin' in the Free World
37. On the Way Home
38. The Needle and the Damage Done
39. Time Fades Away
40. Borrowed Tune

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

"Bad Fog of Lonliness" in the top 10 is pretty awesome, even if I didn't vote for it myself.

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

I rarely call in here, so missed all of this completely. But I've spent the last hour or so reading through the results. Surprised, but not disappointed, by the #1.

Good to see a couple of you included Love And Only Love in your ballots. It would definitely have featured on mine - if only the version on Weld. The solo on that is one of my favourite Neil moments.

Excellent presentation, Clemenza.

Duke, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

Spotify playlist updated: http://open.spotify.com/user/124420673/playlist/7tIBGOFg0EDXgAz10slAJZ

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

Interestingly, the song that came out on top is also one of Neil's most performed songs, beaten only by Cinnamon Girl and Heart of Gold.

http://sugarmtn.org/stat.php?stat=1

agnosy, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, I'm surprised he's only played Motion Pictures once!

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

My ballot.

Like a Hurricane -- 20pts
Don’t Cry -- 18
Time Fades Away -- 18
My My, Hey Hey (Out of the Blue) -- 16
Crime In The City (Sixty To Zero Part 1) -- 16
Cocaine Eyes -- 14
The Needle And The Damage Done -- 14
Love In Mind -- 13
Blowin' In The Wind -- 13
Cortez The Killer -- 12
Helpless -- 12
The Bridge -- 12
Farmer John -- 11

Winterlong -- 11
Arc -- 10
Powderfinger -- 10
Ordinary People -- 9
Goin’ Back -- 9
Sugar Mountain -- 8
Peaceful Valley Boulevard -- 8
Long May You Run -- 7
For The Turnstiles -- 7
Ambulance Blues -- 6
LA -- 6
Lotta Love -- 5
Harvest Moon -- 5
Comes A Time -- 4
Southern Man -- 3
Ohio -- 2
Tonight’s The Night -- 1

Jeff W, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, I'm surprised he's only played Motion Pictures once!

I'm surprised he's played it at all, frankly. all of that OTB and Time Fades Away stuff seems to have dropped off his radar

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

ambulance blues is the only one that he's really returned to in the past decade or so, there's one on the beach from 2003, maybe a handful of don't be denieds.

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

favourite line from Ambulance Blues: it's easy to get buried in the past, when you try to make a good thing last.

agnosy, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

I got to know "Motion Pictures" as a live staple by local (Knoxville) heroes the V-Roys, who did a great raging version of it. (It's even on their career-capping live album.) Actually there are an awful lot of Neil songs I first heard done by other people.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

Didn't rank, but here are my picks that didn't make the cut:

I’ve Been Waiting for You
Tell Me Why
Wrecking Ball
No More
Love to Burn
Safeway Cart
Peaceful Valley Boulevard
Love is a Rose
For the Turnstiles
Country Home
Natural Beauty
Such a Woman

Granted, I made a point of trying to draw from every point in his career.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

Whoops, scratch "Tell Me Why" from that.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

for the turnstiles made it i think

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

here are the ones of mine that didn't make it (i think)

Razor Love
Surfer Joe And Moe The Sleaze
Country Home
Give Me Strength
Pushed It Over The End
Too Far Gone
Little Wing
Speakin’ Out
Through My Sails
Safeway Cart
No One Seems To Know

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

(10) 1. Mr. Soul (Buffalo Springfield version)
(10) 2. Cinnamon Girl
(10) 3. Like A Hurricane
(10) 4. Don't Be Denied
(10) 5. Rockin' In The Free World (electric Freedom version!)
(8) 6. Cowgirl In The Sand
(8) 7. A Man Needs A Maid
(8) 8. Powderfinger
(8) 9. Sugar Mountain
(8) 10. I'm The Ocean
(8) 11. Prisoners Of Rock'n'Roll
(8) 12. Revolution Blues
(8) 13. Flying On The Ground Is Wrong (Live At The Riverboat 1969)
(8) 14. Cortez The Killer
(8) 15. Campaigner
(8) 16. Pressure
(8) 17. Music Arcade
(8) 18. Over And Over
(8) 19. Be The Rain
(8) 20. Sample And Hold
(8) 21. Ohio
(8) 22. Southern Pacific
(8) 23. Fork In The Road
(8) 24. Natural Beauty
(8) 25. I Believe In You
(8) 26. Hawks & Doves
(8) 27. Goin' Home
(8) 28. Time Fades Away
(8) 29. Sixty To Zero (Crime In The City) (oneada live bootleg versions)
(8) 30. Look Out For My Love (the MTV Unplugged version!)
(8) 31. Prime Of Life
(8) 32. Hey Hey, My My - Into The Black
(8) 33. The Old Laughing Lady
(8) 34. Tired Eyes
(8) 35. Mideast Vacation
(7) 36. The Restless Consumer ("In The Beginning" version)
(7) 37. Shots
(7) 38. Down To The Wire
(7) 39. Peace Of Mind
(7) 40. Driveby

da croupier, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

My non-charting cuts (DAMN that's a lot of them!):

Love Art Blues
Traces
Soldier
Sleeps With Angels
Stringman
Burned
Time Fades Away
Cripple Creek Ferry
Pushed It Over the End
I’ve Been Waiting for You
Deep Forbidden Lake
Love Is a Rose
My Heart
Shots
Old Ways
Kinda Fonda Wanda
Journey Through the Past

hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

Flying On The Ground Is Wrong (Live At The Riverboat 1969)
otm

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

"Pressure" made croup's ballot! awesome

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

I'm probably most bummed that Hitchhiker didn't make it

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

powderfinger - 30
expecting to fly - 30
winterlong - 20
the loner - 20
unknown legend - 15
like a hurricane -10
philadelphia - 10
don’t let it bring you down -10
long may you run -10
tonight’s the night - 10
pocahontas - 10
computer age - 10
ohio - 10
cinnamon girl - 10
sedan delivery - 10
cortez the killer - 10
fuckin up - 10
don’t be denied - 5
i’m the ocean - 5
danger bird - 5
when you dance i can really love - 5
ambulance blues - 5
safeway cart - 5
mr soul - 5
harvest moon - 5
the old laughing lady - 5
albuquerque - 5
captain kennedy - 5
helpless - 5
cowgirl in the sand - 5

balls, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

I actually had a word doc started and was trying to figure out my ballot — procrastinated too long.

Fun post, though I'm surprised 'The Old Homestead' is nowhere to be found.

Austin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere
Cortez The Killer
Don't Cry No Tears
Harvest
Out On The Weekend
The Losing End (When You're On)
On The Beach
Campaigner
Don't Cry
A Man Needs A Maid
Only Love Can Break Your Heart
Thrasher
Motion Pictures
Eldorado
Time Fades Away
I'm The Ocean
I Believe In You
Unknown Legend
Razor Love
There Goes My Babe
Star of Bethlehem
Sugar Mountain
Cowgirl in the Sand
Music Is Love
Too Far Gone
Revolution Blues
Albuquerque
Ambulance Blues
Tired Eyes
Look Out For My Love
World On A String
Prime of Life
Down by the River
Comes A Time
Natural Beauty
Sample And Hold
Powderfinger
Such A Woman
Rockin' In The Free World
Country Home

Euler, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

Clemenza: you said at one point that two songs traded the top spot 'til somewhere near the end, when a third song came from nowhere. What were the songs, how did it play out?

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 22:29 (twelve years ago) link

It was "Down by the River" with the early lead, then it traded back-and-forth with "Cortez," then Powderfinger overtook them both on the 53rd or 54th ballot.

I'm just finishing the big list. Can someone remind me of the thread where you put a permalink to final results?

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks. I'm interested 'cos I never monitored the U2 poll as it ran, and it was only when I counted backwards that I found The Unforgettable Fire had led through most of the voting, and only fell away with the last four or five ballots. It'd've been a similarly unexpected no.1 I think.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link

ILM Ballot Polls: where to find the results threads

Neil Jung (WmC), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks--I'm going to put the list here and link to it there.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 22:48 (twelve years ago) link

"down by the river" is fine but i would have been bummed if it got the top spot, always preferred "cowgirl"

da croupier, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 22:48 (twelve years ago) link

1) 30 Hey Hey, My My (Into The Black)
2) 20 Like A Hurricane
3) 20 Sugar Mountain
4) 20 Harvest
5) 20 Ordinary People
6) 15 No More
7) 15 Here We Are In The Years
8) 15 On The Beach
9) 15 Sail Away
10) 10 After The Gold Rush
11) 10 Soldier
12) 10 Little Wing
13) 10 Don't Cry No Tears
14) 10 Cowgirl In The Sand
15) 05 Flying On The Ground Is Wrong
16) 05 I'm The Ocean
17) 05 Silver & Gold
18) 05 Broken Arrow
19) 05 Hippie Dream
20) 05 Don't Take Your Love Away From Me
21) 05 Someday
22) 05 Looking Forward
23) 05 Feel Your Love
24) 05 Thrasher
25) 05 Love In Mind
26) 05 Ambulance Blues
27) 05 Journey Through The Past
28) 05 Throw Your Hatred Down
29) 05 Weight Of The World
30) 05 Without Rings

As I told clemenza, on another day I could have picked a completely different set of songs, Neil has too many good ones to choose from.

agnosy, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

Final Results:

75. “Ordinary People,” Chrome Dreams II (7 votes/68 points)
74. “Don’t Cry,” Freedom (7/71)
73. “Cocaine Eyes,” Eldorado (8/71)
72. “Sample and Hold,” Trans (8/77)
71. “Transformer Man,” Trans (7/78)
70. “Words (Between the Lines of Age),” Harvest (9/78)
69. “The Old Laughing Lady,” Neil Young (8/84)
68. “Love in Mind,” Time Fades Away (11/89)
67. “Philadelphia,” Philadelphia (9/93)
66. “Fuckin’ Up,” Ragged Glory (12/93)
65. “Southern Man,” After the Gold Rush (10/95)
64. “Crime in the City (Sixty to Zero Part I),” Freedom (10/96)
63. “Broken Arrow,” Buffalo Springfield Again (11/96)
62. “Harvest,” Harvest (11/97)
61. “Lotta Love,” Comes a Time (13/97)
60. “I Am a Child,” Last Time Around (12/99)
59. “Lookout Joe,” Tonight’s the Night (11/104)
58. “Look Out for My Love,” Comes a Time (12/104)
57. “Unknown Legend,” Harvest Moon (11/108)
56. “Come on Baby Let’s Go Downtown,” Tonight’s the Night (11/110)
55. “On the Way Home,” Last Time Around (9/115)
54. “Birds,” After the Gold Rush (12/117)
53. “Motion Pictures,” On the Beach (13/126)
52. “Long May You Run,” Long May You Run (13/129)
51. “Will to Love,” American Stars ‘n Bars (13/132)
50. “Mellow My Mind,” Tonight’s the Night (15/132)
49. “Harvest Moon,” Harvest Moon (15/135)
48. “L.A.,” Time Fades Away (14/137)
47. “The Loner,” Neil Young (16/143)
46. “See the Sky About to Rain,” On the Beach (16/148)
45. “I Believe in You,” After the Gold Rush (17/149)
44. “Sedan Delivery,” Rust Never Sleeps (18/156)
43. “My My, Hey Hey (Out of the Blue),” Rust Never Sleeps (16/162)
42. “Don’t Cry No Tears,” Zuma (19/162)
41. “Comes a Time,” Comes a Time (18/164)
40. “Out on the Weekend,” Harvest (17/167)
39. “Barstool Blues,” Zuma (19/168)
38. “For the Turnstiles,” On the Beach (20/169)
37. “I’m the Ocean,” Mirror Ball (22/188)
36. “Danger Bird,” Zuma (18/189)
35. “Thrasher,” Rust Never Sleeps (20/189)
34. “Time Fades Away,” Time Fades Away (18/190)
33. “Winterlong,” Decade (19/194)
32. “Mr. Soul,” Buffalo Springfield Again (19/195)
31. “Walk On,” On the Beach (15/196)
30. “When You Dance I Can Really Love,” After the Gold Rush (17/197)
29. “Sugar Mountain,” 7-inch (20/197)
28. “A Man Needs a Maid,” Harvest (20/198)
27. “Don’t Be Denied,” Time Fades Away (21/220)
26. “Old Man,” Harvest (24/237)
25. “Pocahontas,” Rust Never Sleeps (26/245)
24. “Rockin’ in the Free World,” Freedom (28/254)
23. “Hey Hey, My My (Into the Black),” Rust Never Sleeps (26/260)
22. “Don’t Let It Bring You Down,” After the Gold Rush (28/261)
21. “The Needle and the Damage Done,” Harvest (24/267)
20. “Heart of Gold,” Harvest (28/271)
19. “After the Gold Rush,” After the Gold Rush (28/275)
18. “Tired Eyes,” Tonight’s the Night (25/278)
17. “Albuquerque,” Tonight’s the Night (26/290)
16. “Tonight’s the Night,” Tonight’s the Night (27/308)
15. “Only Love Can Break Your Heart,” After the Gold Rush (30/309)
14. “Tell Me Why,” After the Gold Rush (25/313)
13. “Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere,” Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere (31/314)
12. “Helpless,” Déjà Vu (28/315)
11. “Revolution Blues,” On the Beach (30/319)
10. “Ohio,” 7-inch (32/323)
9. “Expecting to Fly,” Buffalo Springfield Again (25/329)
8. “On the Beach,” On the Beach (27/331)
7. “Cowgirl in the Sand,” Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere (34/351)
6. “Cinnamon Girl,” Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere (34/392)
5. “Ambulance Blues,” On the Beach (33/413)
4. “Like a Hurricane,” American Stars ‘n Bars (40/435)
3. “Down by the River,” Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere (41/448)
2. “Cortez the Killer,” Zuma (44/480)
1. “Powderfinger,” Rust Never Sleeps (44/514)

And the Top 10 albums again, just so they’re in the same place (people were voting for songs, not albums--the points were added after-the-fact):

1. After the Gold Rush (1970) -- 11 songs/1,861 points
2. On the Beach (1974) -- 8/1,729
3. Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere (1969) -- 7/1,607
4. Rust Never Sleeps (1979) -- 9/1,598
5. Tonight’s the Night (1975) -- 11/1,414
6. Harvest (1972) -- 9/1,390
7. Zuma (1975) -- 9/1,155
8. Time Fades Away (1973) -- 8/766
9. American Stars ‘n Bars (1977) -- 7/699
10. Freedom (1989) -- 10/652

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago) link

so boss that powderfinger won

catbus otm (gbx), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:18 (twelve years ago) link

Highest points-per-voter among the Top 75 (intensity quotient, if you will):

1. "Expecting to Fly" (13.16)
2. "On the Way Home" (12.78)
3. "Tell Me Why" (12.52)
4. "Ambulance Blues" (12.52)
5. "On the Beach" (12.26)
6. "Powderfinger" (11.68)
7. "When You Dance I Can Really Love" (11.59)
8. "Cinnamon Girl" (11.53)
9. "Tonight's the Night" (11.41)
10. "Helpless" (11.25)

Songs from my list I most wanted to place: "Country Girl" and "Bad Fog of Loneliness" (I knew "Ocean Girl" had no chance)
High finish that puzzles me most: "Walk On"
Song from Tonight's the Night I wish had placed: "Roll Another Number (For the Road)"
Post-Rust song I was sure was going to place fairly high (and where I wasn't even close): "Over and Over"

Thanks to the action-film and horror-film polls, which got me interested in spending lots of time on the images, and also to the Paul Simon poll, where I liked the sometimes cryptic juxtapositions.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:18 (twelve years ago) link

After The Gold Rush getting the most points is pretty remarkable given that its highest song was #14

straight up now tell me will I be a fucking lump forever? (some dude), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link

who voted for Cripple Creek Ferry

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:25 (twelve years ago) link

(I voted for Oh Lonesome Me)

the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link

Post-Rust song I was sure was going to place fairly high (and where I wasn't even close): "Over and Over"

This was actually in regular rotation on MTV in 1991. Granted, said rotation was around 3am, but it was 3am every day for about two weeks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mzo51vF0OQ&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL1D1AE27FE928AA35
(I have no idea why I was up at 3am every day for two weeks in 1991)

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago) link

(ok, that was supposed to be the "Over and Over" video)

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:28 (twelve years ago) link

All 11 Gold Rush songs got votes, ranging from a low of 43 to a high of 313. I voted for "Cripple Creek Ferry," also four others. (Everybody Knows and On the Beach have four and three fewer songs than Gold Rush, and that makes a difference.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:31 (twelve years ago) link

Danger Bird >>> Cortez

Alfred otm here...Cortez is a great jam but I hate the lyrics so much. I did give Cortez 5 points though.

Thanks for an almighty poll, clemenza!

recordbreaking transfer to Lucknow FC (seandalai), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:54 (twelve years ago) link

Sample and Hold 25
Expecting to Fly 20
Revolution blues 20
Ambulance blues 20
Journey through the past 10
Only love can break your heart 10
See the sky about to rain 10
Mr. Soul 10
Broken Arrow 10
Hey hey, my my 10
Transformer man 10
Harvest Moon 10
Winterlong 10
Helpless 10
Such a woman 10
Ohio 10
Bad fog of loneliness 10
Natural beauty 10
Danger Bird 10
Down by the river 10
Country girl 10
War of man 5
Star of Bethlehem 5
Old man 5
Cortez the Killer 5
Mellow my mind 5
Cowgirl in the sand 5
Motion pictures 5
Last trip to Tulsa 5
Peaceful valley boulevard 5

recordbreaking transfer to Lucknow FC (seandalai), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 23:56 (twelve years ago) link

1. Harvest Moon
2. Don't Let It Bring You Down
3. Cinnamon Girl
4. On the Way Home
5. Lotta Love
6. You and Me
7. When You Dance I Can Really Love
8. It's My Time
9. Only Love Can Break Your Heart
10. Oh, Lonesome Me
11. Ohio
12. Old Man
13. The Needle and the Damage Done
14. Mr. Soul
15. My My, Hey Hey (Out of the Blue)
16. Hey Hey, My My (Into the Black)
17. Expecting to Fly
18. Tell Me Why
19. Cowgirl in the Sand
20. Nowadays Clancy Can't Even Sing
21. Long May You Run
22. Rockin' in the Free World
23. Whatever Happened to Saturday Night
24. I've Been Waiting for You

25. Southern Man
26. Come on Baby Let's Go Downtown
27. Will to Love
28. Hey Babe
29. Like a Hurricane
30. Down by the River

- Surprised "Clancy" and "Oh, Lonesome Me" didn't place.
- Surprised "Will to Love" and "Come on Baby Let's Go Downtown" did.
- Not surprised, but disappointed "You and Me" and "It's My Time" didn't place

Lee626, Thursday, 12 July 2012 00:02 (twelve years ago) link

I don't mind "Cortez" as a jam, but the lyrics really kill it for me.

I LOVE Cortez as a jam but yeah the lyrics are dumb

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 12 July 2012 00:21 (twelve years ago) link

songs from my ballot that didn't make it

9) The Losing End (When You're On)
14) If I Could Have Her Tonight
15) Down To The Wire
17) Burned
18) Human Highway
22) Oh, Lonesome Me
23) The Emperor of Wyoming
28) Till The Morning Comes
30) Round & Round (It Won't Be Long)

there were 4-5 songs that did make the top 75 that I would have voted for if i had not thrown my ballot together so haphazardly

buzza, Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:24 (twelve years ago) link

ok i'm gonna look like an idiot here maybe or maybe i'm regurgitating conventional wisdom but how do ppl read 'cortez'? do they read it as a straightforward song about cortez? not saying this is wrong, it very probably isn't, this is neil young, but the way i've read it the dumbness of the first 6 verses is intentional and maybe neccessary, that those first 6 verses are a daydream or digression and the song only moves into present tense and the actual protagonist is revealed in the 'and i know she's living there' verse, that the song is a variation on 'by the time i get to phoenix' sorta w/ the protagonist thinking of cortez conquering and destroying this paradise and how that mirrors how he destroyed his paradise (and it's not hard to believe, guy's a dumbass, cf. his take on the aztecs), w/ the final 'cortez, what a killer' the narrator hanging his head in shame. why do i keep fuckin up etc.

balls, Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:25 (twelve years ago) link

it could be also that 'cortez is about regret' cuz so many of my fave neil young songs (including my top two) are basically about regret.

balls, Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:27 (twelve years ago) link

it could be also that I THINK 'cortez is about regret' rather

balls, Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:28 (twelve years ago) link

neil shrugs enough about it that there isn't any wrong way to read it

da croupier, Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:33 (twelve years ago) link

i always thought cortez was neil being maybe a lil too upfront about how much he romanticizes native america and the first nations? like pocahontas rides the line, and manages it, but cortez was what neil did instead of hanging up a dreamcatcher and getting a kokopelli tattoo, i dunno

i'd like to be wrong though!

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:36 (twelve years ago) link

an innaresting reading

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:39 (twelve years ago) link

POWDERFINGER

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:41 (twelve years ago) link

actually, now that i think about it, that reggae-ified coda on Live Rust might have been the wrong way to read it

da croupier, Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:44 (twelve years ago) link

but yeah any take that involves yearning, regret, wistfulness, etc is plenty right

da croupier, Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:46 (twelve years ago) link

still wish i could find that quote from erstwhile ilxor stormy davis (grumpier than morbs, even, bless 'im) that said something like "powderfinger is the most important song ever recorded". totally had a moment where i read that, put on powderfinger, and then thought "damn."

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:47 (twelve years ago) link

the reggae-fied coda on LR is probably a singer trying to keep boredom at bay afte 2000 performances

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:53 (twelve years ago) link

haha here's where i confess i've never actually listened to live rust (which is doubly weird cuz i LOVE neil young live albums - big year of the horse stan, etc) and you dudes tossing words like 'reggae' around in the context of neil young is not exactly doing anything to change that.

balls, Thursday, 12 July 2012 01:59 (twelve years ago) link

the reggae part is akin to Neil burping midsong

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:01 (twelve years ago) link

A friend said this in an e-mail today in reference to "Cortez": "unlike that fabled Franco government, I am a Spaniard who feels this song tells my own story quite accurately."

Having said that, I think it's a dead-end trying to analyze the song too closely as words on a page. (Nothing wrong with that, and the stuff above is interesting.) I know it's more literal than mid-'60s Dylan stuff like "Desolation Row" or "Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues," but I do think it's Neil's version of that. He's got a song floating around in his head, and he's just attaching some words...against interpretation and all that.

clemenza, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:02 (twelve years ago) link

Or maybe a bunch of words setting up the one line: "I still can't remember when or how I lost my way." Coming out of the '73-75 period, that line seems very straightforward.

clemenza, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:04 (twelve years ago) link

balls, skip to 6:05 for a taste

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSj5yOK_mt4

da croupier, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:07 (twelve years ago) link

or you can start at the beginning and let the majesty unfold

da croupier, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:07 (twelve years ago) link

when I saw Bryan Ferry perform "A Song For Europe" in 2010 he mimicked a southern accent. What's weirder?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:08 (twelve years ago) link

Haven't listened to Live Rust in ages...would have been happier without that reminder! (The reggae schtick, I mean.)

clemenza, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:09 (twelve years ago) link

Mine that didn't place:

Pardon My Heart
Hangin' On A Limb
Stringman
Country Girl: Whiskey Boot Hill/Down, Down, Down/Country Girl (I Think You're Pretty)
Ride My Llama
The Bridge
After The Garden (I'm fond of this, and snuck it in at #30, but I suspect it might have been its only vote!)

funk79, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:10 (twelve years ago) link

I screened the Rust... movie during the voting process, and as the version of CTK unfurled into the reggae coda, I thought, "Hey, at least he didn't try to shove a Crazy Horse reggae album down Geffen's throat."

I know Neil has said that the real Weld experience was the long-form video/laser disc. You could make a similar argument for Rust Never Sleeps (the movie) vs. Live Rust. All that kooky atmosphere (the giant props, "Road Eyes") adds just the right amount of wtf? to the proceedings.

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:10 (twelve years ago) link

ok that's not so bad, i don't think david byrne can go 30 seconds on the name of this band w/o some similar move going on.

balls, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:12 (twelve years ago) link

^ that post is like chum for clem i think

balls, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:13 (twelve years ago) link

actually it's surprising there isn't at least one more prominent example of ras neil out there

xpost and now my own unintentional avoidance of the name of this band is given weight

da croupier, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:13 (twelve years ago) link

It was the only "After the Garden" vote, yes...Outdoor Miner: let me know if you want your ballot posted.

clemenza, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:13 (twelve years ago) link

Another thing about CTK: in the old AMG review of Zuma, the writer mentioned that the song was the lone holdover from an abandoned concept album of historical-oriented songs. That is the only place I've heard of this concept lp. Total bullshit, or is there something to it?

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:14 (twelve years ago) link

after This Note's For You the VV's critic wondered whether "Neil Sings Nelson Riddle!" was next. Why not "Neil Sings Lee 'Scratch' Perry"?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:15 (twelve years ago) link

Jah Rastafari Believe In You

da croupier, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:16 (twelve years ago) link

is le noise the closest thing to a neil young dub album we have? also: neil young + crazy horse in everybody's dubsteppin -> yes, sign me up

balls, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:22 (twelve years ago) link

the real Weld experience

this was intentional right? if so: ~knucks~

knucks anyway

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:26 (twelve years ago) link

can-knucks joke goes here

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:26 (twelve years ago) link

neil young + crazy horse in everybody's dubsteppin -> yes, sign me up

"kinda fonda wubwubwub"

da croupier, Thursday, 12 July 2012 02:27 (twelve years ago) link

I know Neil has said that the real Weld experience was the long-form video/laser disc.

I'd hate to think the real Weld experience is close-ups of audience members singing along.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 12 July 2012 03:17 (twelve years ago) link

1. Powderfinger
2. The Needle And The Damage Done
3. Cortez the Killer
4. Sugar Mountain
5. Down By The River
6. After the Gold Rush
7. Alabama
8. Pocahontas
9. Revolution Blues
10. South-ern Pac-i-fic
11. Comes A Time
12. The Loner
13. Don't Be Denied
14. Don't Let it Bring You Down
15. Tonight's the Night
16. Will To Love
17. Cowgirl In The Sand
18. Rap-id Tran-sit
19. Harvest Moon
20. Coupe De Ville
21. Safeway Cart
22. The Bridge
23. Love To Burn
24. For The Turnstiles
25. Kinda Fonda Wanda
26. My My, Hey Hey (Out Of The Blue)
27. Homegrown
28. Captain Kennedy
29. Fuckin' Up
30. Silver And Gold

Upper 10 = 15
Middle 10 = 10
Bottom 10 = 5

exclusive to this pledge group - pleasure (weatheringdaleson), Thursday, 12 July 2012 03:19 (twelve years ago) link

Placed 20 of 30. Kind of surprised "Four Strong Winds" didn't make it.

Neil Jung (WmC), Thursday, 12 July 2012 03:22 (twelve years ago) link

27 of 30 placed. Would have loved to see Flying on the Ground is Wrong make the list. That one's come on strong for me lately. Tyler had the Kendra Smith / Rainy Day cover posted earlier this year ... so good.

For 15 points each:
Tell Me Why
Down by the River
Powderfinger
Pocahontas
Helpless
Expecting to Fly
On the Way Home
Ohio
The Old Laughing Lady
Sedan Delivery
For 10 points each:
Out on the Weekend
Long May You Run
Comes a Time
Winterlong
Flying on the Ground is Wrong
Nowadays Clancy Can't Even Sing
Like a Hurricane
Rockin' in the the Free World
Cowgirl in the Sand
Hey Hey, My My
For 5 points each:
See the Sky About to Rain
Birds
Till the Morning Comes
Thrasher
Dreamin' Man
Cortez the Killer
Only Love Can Break Your Heart
Albuquerque
Walk On
After the Gold Rush

that's not my post, Thursday, 12 July 2012 04:03 (twelve years ago) link

1.) Don't Be Denied - 24
2.) Tell Me Why - 20
3.) Keep On Rockin in the Free World - 15
4.) For the Turnstiles - 14
5.) Powderfinger - 14

12 points:
Down by the River
Thrasher
Winterlong
Albuquerque

10 points:
Pardon My Heart
I Believe in You
Sedan Delivery
On the Beach
Birds
Sleeps with Angels

7 points:
Revolution Blues
Cinnamon Girl
World on a String
Hangin on a Limb
Slip Away

Time Fades Away
Like a Hurricane
Pocahontas
The Old Homestead
Barstool Blues

5 points:

Walk On
LA
Don't Let it Bring You Down
Fuckin Up
Heart of Gold
Ambulance Blues
Driveby
Crime in the City
Hitchhiker
Yonder Stands the Sinner

2 points:

Lookout Joe
Welfare Mothers
Safeway Cart

Comes a Time
Harvest

0 points ;_;

Coupe de Ville
Words Between the Lines of Age
Change Your Mind

t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 12 July 2012 04:34 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think complex readings of "Cortez" are wrong, exactly, but they also don't really obviate the problems with the noble savage imagery and all that. Even as allegory, it's pretty dicey. (And "Desolation Row" is a good analog, in that the last verse recontextualizes the song, but that's a particular trick that I think Dylan does a whole lot better.)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 12 July 2012 04:51 (twelve years ago) link

Anyway, I listened to "Powderfinger" in the car on the way home tonight, with the windows down, and it really seemed like a perfect song. It wasn't my number 1, but I'm happy it landed there. It's about so much -- war and loyalty, the confusion of being young, the drastic consequences of not knowing what you're doing. It's a Vietnam song dressed up as "Deliverance," but it's also about growing up and finding out that everything you've learned won't help, nothing will really protect you, you're on your own.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 12 July 2012 05:00 (twelve years ago) link

I was out last night so missed the finale but thanks clemenza, this was a total delight from start to finish. I had Powderfinger as my #1 and Cortez at #3.

Songs from the bottom third of my ballot that didn't make it:

Everybody's Alone
Journey Through the Past
Love and War
War Song
Bad Fog of Loneliness
Burned

Get wolves (DL), Thursday, 12 July 2012 09:16 (twelve years ago) link

My ballot (unranked):

Cowgirl In The Sand
Don't Let It Bring You Down
Ohio
Cinnamon Girl
Down By The River
Oh, Lonesome Me
Heart Of Gold
Old Man
The Needle And The Damage Done
Walk On
See The Sky About To Rain
For The Turnstiles
Tonight's The Night
Come On Baby Let's Go Downtown
Tell Me Why
Tired Eyes
Like A Hurricane
Spirit Road
No Hidden Path
The Loner
After The Goldrush
Only Love Can Break Your Heart
Till The Morning Comes
Birds
When You Dance I Can Really Love
I Believe In You
Cripple Creek Ferry
Hey Hey, My My (Into The Black)
Rockin' In The Free World
Burned

was I the only voter for No Hidden Path and Spirit Road? Guess I rate Chrome Dreams II more highly than most.

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Thursday, 12 July 2012 10:13 (twelve years ago) link

Did you see the Chrome Dreams II tour? Great show but I remember resenting No Hidden Path for gibbling up 15-20 minutes of prime setlist real estate.

Get wolves (DL), Thursday, 12 July 2012 10:15 (twelve years ago) link

i'm sorry cripple creek ferry didn't make it, always thought it would've been a perfect song for him to perform w/ the muppets (NOT a diss!)

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 12 July 2012 10:24 (twelve years ago) link

Gobbling. I don't know what gibbling is but I'm sure I'd have resented that too.

Get wolves (DL), Thursday, 12 July 2012 10:32 (twelve years ago) link

yes saw that tour, no resentment! found the 15-minute NHP pretty transcendent actually... also kind of enjoyed the fact that he was prepared to do that, it seemed a very "Neil Young" move.

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Thursday, 12 July 2012 11:12 (twelve years ago) link

"Dirty Old Man" is a good 'un.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 July 2012 11:32 (twelve years ago) link

xp Yeah, it's true. It would be weird to go to a Neil Young concert and not have a few quixotic moments. It was still a tremendous set. Looking at other setlists from the 90s and 00s, that show had more of my favourites than any other - six songs out of this poll's Top 10 in fact. This whole process has made me desperate to see him again.

Get wolves (DL), Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:54 (twelve years ago) link

I have tickets to see him in Philadelphia in November. Ridiculously excited even though I'm afraid half the set will be Americana and new unreleased stuff.

cwkiii, Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:58 (twelve years ago) link

And "Philadelphia," I'm guessing.

clemenza, Thursday, 12 July 2012 13:00 (twelve years ago) link

holy shit i just read (ok, skimmed) through most of this and while there are things i would like to respond to, here are the highlights for ease of digestion:

1) sorry i missed this, i had more interesting things to say than the tiny little craplets i wrote to EZ, but thank you for posting (and possibly reading) my craplets
2) Yeah this song doesn't do anything for me. "I love Ohio (the place) even if it is super duper fucked up" kind of a weird reason for voting it #1?

― boxall, Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:55 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

I can explain. First, I'm from Northeast Ohio. Not just from there, but have a complicated and many-tentacled relationship with the politics of the place. This poll happened to coincide with (as I have mentioned elsewhere) my sorting and scanning of a huge box of old photos. When I realized that a bunch of them were related to politics, I made a tumblr for them. Most of them are 70s, but I threw the 80s on the url in case I found more. http://campaigners70sand80s.tumblr.com/

In sum, NEOH is super duper fucked up but I love it in spite of that, which is one of my ways of loving things. I feel like Neil Young understands how poignant and painful this kind of love is. Not that "Ohio" the song exemplifies it, but I know he understands. This may or may not explain my reasoning, but my reasoning may or may not make sense and that alone is emblematic of the feelings (lol feelings) I have about NEOH.

Thank you clemenza and ilxors for the opportunity to yap about my favorite NY songs -- I'm not sure any one person would have been able to handle this conversation alone because it would have been very very boring.

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Thursday, 12 July 2012 13:27 (twelve years ago) link

This button, an overstuffed suitcase with "JAR" on the tag referred to James A Rhodes, the governor at the time of the Kent State shootings.

From wiki

During a press conference at the Kent firehouse, an emotional Governor Rhodes pounded on the desk[17] and called the student protesters un-American, referring to them as revolutionaries set on destroying higher education in Ohio. "We've seen here at the city of Kent especially, probably the most vicious form of campus oriented violence yet perpetrated by dissident groups. They make definite plans of burning, destroying, and throwing rocks at police, and at the National Guard and the Highway Patrol. This is when we're going to use every part of the law enforcement agency of Ohio to drive them out of Kent. We are going to eradicate the problem. We're not going to treat the symptoms. And these people just move from one campus to the other and terrorize the community. They're worse than the brown shirts and the communist element and also the night riders and the vigilantes", Rhodes said. "They're the worst type of people that we harbor in America. Now I want to say this. They are not going to take over [the] campus. I think that we're up against the strongest, well-trained, militant, revolutionary group that has ever assembled in America."[18] Rhodes can be heard in the recording of his speech yelling and pounding his fists on the desk.[19][20]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6ab8dtCxJ1rzge1ho1_500.jpg

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Thursday, 12 July 2012 13:34 (twelve years ago) link

love the photos (and their rudimentary captions)

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 12 July 2012 13:34 (twelve years ago) link

thanks!

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Thursday, 12 July 2012 13:35 (twelve years ago) link

'they're worse than the brown shirts' - what does this mean?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 12 July 2012 13:36 (twelve years ago) link

nazis

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Thursday, 12 July 2012 13:38 (twelve years ago) link

classy guy, huh? the pin was a reference to the frequent call for Rhodes to "pack [your] bags"

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Thursday, 12 July 2012 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

Fantastic photos, La Lechera--and yes, the man-sits-in-chair captions. Are these family photos, or did you come by them some other way?

clemenza, Thursday, 12 July 2012 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

Assuming that there's very little cross-pollination between googlers interested in Ohio politics and this thread, the former. There's more to say but I don't really want to put it here. I kind of like to keep it "here are some fun and happy political people from Ohio in the 70s" neutral.

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Thursday, 12 July 2012 13:45 (twelve years ago) link

Not to worry--even Liza Minnelli made an appearance in this thread. (Oh wait, that was my doing...)

clemenza, Thursday, 12 July 2012 13:53 (twelve years ago) link

Welcome back La Lechera! I didn't post your ballot if you want it on here for posterity.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 12 July 2012 13:53 (twelve years ago) link

Here it is if anyone cares/for posterity

1 Ohio
2 Helpless
3 Lotta Love (Neil's version, not Nicolette's)
4 Cowgirl in the Sand
5 Expecting to Fly
6 Don't Cry No Tears
7 Danger Bird
8 Cortez the Killer
9 Powderfinger
10 Albuquerque

11 Running Dry
12 Harvest Moon
13 Tired Eyes
14 Old Man
15 Heart of Gold
16 Like a Hurricane
17 Rockin in the Free World
18 Wrecking Ball
19 Harvest
20 Bad Fog of Loneliness

21 When Your Lonely Heart Breaks
22 Mellow My Mind
23 Barstool Blues
24 Slip Away
25 Revolution Blues
26 Pocahontas
27 On the Beach
28 Down by the River
29 Don't Let it Bring You Down
30 When You Dance I Can Really Love

31 Razor Love
32 A Man Needs a Maid
33 Pardon My Heart
34 See the Sky About to Rain
35 Loose Change
36 Prisoners of Rock and Roll

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Thursday, 12 July 2012 13:55 (twelve years ago) link

Emperor of Wyoming dope choice buzza

Euler, Thursday, 12 July 2012 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

That is a very cool set of photos and explanation, not that you owed me/us one - thanks. xps

boxall, Thursday, 12 July 2012 14:29 (twelve years ago) link

xposting I'd be shocked if "Americana" played much of a part of the upcoming Crazy Horse tour. But maybe the unreleased (maybe never to be released?) other album will. Per Young, " [the tour] is going to be [songs from] the past, the present and the future."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 July 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

I wouldn't mind a few songs from Americana but if he busts out the unreleased 20+ minute jam and it doesn't deliver I'm gonna be bummed!

cwkiii, Thursday, 12 July 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

Pretty obsessed with Jesus' Chariot on Americana. I wish this was the version of She'll Be Coming Round the Mountain that comes out of my daughter's toy 20 times a day.

Get wolves (DL), Thursday, 12 July 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

Here's my ballot:

Mr. Soul (Mono) - Archives Vol. 1
Everbody Knows This Is Nowhere - Everybody's Knows this Is Nowwhere
Down by the River - LIve at the Fillmore
Cowgirl in the Sand - LIve at the Filmore
On the Way Home - Live at Massey Hall
I'm the Ocean - Mirror Ball
Dreamin' Man - Harvest Moon
Rockin' the Free World - Freedom
Too Far Gone - Chrome Dreams version (unreleased)
Comes a Time - Comes a Time
Will to Love - American Stars n Bars/Chrome Dreams
Winterlong - Decade
Tonights' the Night - Tonight's the Night
Come on Baby Let's Go Downtown - Tonight's the Night
Albuquerque - Tonight's the Night
Mellow My Mind - Tonight's the NIght
Tired Eyes - Tonight's the Night
Don't Cry No Tears - Zuma
Barstool Blues - Zuma
Cortez the Killer - Zuma
Revolution Blues - On the Beach
For the Turnstiles - On the Beach
Out on the Weekend - Harvest
Heart of Gold - Harvest
Old Man - Harvest
Mansion on the Hill - Ragged Glory
My My Hey Hey - Into the Black - Rust Never Sleeps
Thrasher - Rust Never Sleeps
Pocohontas - Rust Never Sleeps
Powderfinger - Rust Never Sleeps
Sedan Delivery - Rust Never Sleeps
Pushed it Over the End - Citizen Kane Junior Blues
Hippie Dream - Landing on Water
Transformer Man - Trans
Time Fades Away - Time Fades Away
Helpless - Decade
Like a Hurricane - American Stars n Bars
I've Loved Her So Long - Archives
Shots - Re Ac Tor
World on A String - Tonights't the Night

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 July 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah "Jesus' Chariot" is the best song on that record

xpost

cwkiii, Thursday, 12 July 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

glad to see too far gone showing up on some ballots. kind of a perfect song imo. otm about the chrome dreams version being superior. the 76 live renditions are great too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ9AV7C7EX8

tylerw, Thursday, 12 July 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

I would have voted for Clementine from Americana if I knew about it. That is absolutely killer.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 12 July 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

^^My last cut.

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 July 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

really did not expect quite so much Thrasher love but i've always been into that one. In 1981 i spent tenth grade in Israel on a kibbutz and a few classmates were Canadians and Neil was our classes' go-to fave for singalongs and late night listening. I useda listen to RNS all the time for awhile there and Thrasher in particular always meant a lot on account of the fact that the lyrics, while kinda obtuse or impenetrable maybe, def seemed Zionistic considering our circumstances. i'm no Zionist these days but Neil still rules....

making plans for nyquil (outdoor_miner), Thursday, 12 July 2012 20:38 (twelve years ago) link

Who knew?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to9C_S7v0zU

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 14 July 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

I had to check, but I have that (called it an "ordeal" in the covers piece). Something I'd forgotten: Neil and Manson share a birthday (Nov. 12, eleven years apart).

clemenza, Saturday, 14 July 2012 22:48 (twelve years ago) link

I duly acquired Trans and listened to it for the first time over the weekend. Love it. I can stop saying it's NY's best album just to be contrary now (<-- jk).

Jeff W, Monday, 16 July 2012 11:18 (twelve years ago) link

I heard "Old Man" last night at a Sunflower market, and immediately regretted that I never submitted a ballot for this.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 00:06 (twelve years ago) link

Effexts this thread has on your life: watching Hell's Kitchen and the red team has a pulled pork punishment which involves them checking it hourly through the night. An alarm sounds which they cancel by pressing a "big red button at the side of the grill". So naturally I started singing that to the tune of "Don't Let It Bring You Down".

Desire is withered away from the sons of men! (aldo), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 09:41 (twelve years ago) link

instant earworm, great

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 09:48 (twelve years ago) link

Big red button at the side of the grill
With the pulled pork piled high
Madman chef on everybody’s case
Makes a grown man want to cry

Cold wind ripping through the kitchen at dawn
As the cameras start to roll
Madman chef still frothing at the mouth
Makes a grown man lose his soul

Don't let it bring you down
It's only pulled pork grilling
Find someone who's chilling
And you will come around

(No excuse for that sort of thing, I know.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

Has this been posted here yet? Acoustic Albuquerque?
Maybe I'm just in a sappy mood today (I mean obvious I totally am) but this sounds like the most poignant thing on earth atm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNu8Ti1RhKg&feature=related

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link

i was gonna put this in the "last movies you watched" thread, but it fits better here I think.

Last week I screened Dusty & Sweets McGee, Floyd Mutrux's faux-documentary on heroin addicts in '70-'71 LA, and was wondering if any Neil fans here had seen it? Even though you don't actually hear any of his music in the film (and there's a bunch of music in it), it's like Time Fades Away/Tonight's The Night: The Movie! I kept expecting to see Danny Whitten or Bruce Berry pop up in the background.

Here's the only clip I could find on youtube, which has a short monologue from the dealer character, a Texan who tools around in a '70 Boss 302 Mustang. I can't help seeing him as the guy from "Tired Eyes". (discussion in clip NSFW)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atAGpJSSsrg

Hut Stricklin at Lake Speed (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 01:29 (twelve years ago) link

How did you get hold of that (or were you streaming it)? Pretty sure I remember a big Sunset Strip billboard for Time Fades Away in Mutrux's Aloha Bobby and Rose.

clemenza, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 01:36 (twelve years ago) link

Warner Archive MOD

Hut Stricklin at Lake Speed (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 01:44 (twelve years ago) link

Great--I've got to find somewhere that'll ship reasonably to Canada. I recently bought Dealing: Or the Berkeley-to-Boston Forty-Brick Lost-Bag Blues, which is a year later and the same terrain.

clemenza, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 01:52 (twelve years ago) link

Would watch!

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 02:05 (twelve years ago) link

five years pass...

I took a few days to read this whole thread and listen to every song as I've been on a major neil young dive since discovering on the beach a couple weeks ago. had only heard harvest and some of after the gold rush before that (+ a few obvious singles). always wanted to try more but finally found a way in w/ on the beach. i love every song on there.

based on my newly found love for his music i would currently go with something like this for my top ten:

1. on the beach
2. thrasher
3. cortez the killer
4. down by the river
5. danger bird
6. motion pictures
7. will to love
8. like a hurricane
9. love in mind
10. don't cry

not really understanding how powderfinger won this thing but maybe it will grow on me.

think ive listened to every version of cortez the killer including all the live covers (lol @ satriani ... but the dave matthews one is not bad!).

he had such a rad guitar sound coming out of the gates (cowgirl, cinnamon girl, down by the river).

i think some of the songs off tonights the night might make there way up my list, really loving albuquerque atm.

neil young is good, is my main takeaway.

InfoWarriors (Spottie), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 22:40 (six years ago) link

neil young is good

the tonight's the night songs, at least for me, were real slowburners, like over the course of 5-8 years, but gradually they became indispensable.

lately i have been appreciating the SNL performance of Rockin' in the Free World

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 22:49 (six years ago) link

feel like quite a bit of his stuff is going to slowburn for me.

InfoWarriors (Spottie), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 23:04 (six years ago) link

always found Powderfinger overrated, but I will say that it's an awesome moment whenever at a Neil show the song kicks off with the lines "Look out, Mama, there's a white boat coming up the river"

niels, Thursday, 19 July 2018 06:35 (six years ago) link

neil young is good

karl otm

BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 July 2018 08:47 (six years ago) link

neil young is good

spottie otm

BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 July 2018 08:48 (six years ago) link

the snl 'rockin' in the free world' is phenomenal, one of the greatest tv musical performances ever imo

powderfinger might be my favourite neil lyric, just the right balance between poetic and specific

BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 July 2018 08:53 (six years ago) link

i saw a band cover "albuquerque" recently and it felt like a gift. i recognized it in like 3 notes and there was nothing particularly outstanding about it musically but what a pleasure to hear that song being played by people!

that SNL performance always cheers me up when i am feeling low. i feel like watching it over and over helps to reclaim that song from its truly awful fate as "escalator song" :(

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 July 2018 12:42 (six years ago) link

sounds like you're travelling in some pretty rockin' elevators tbh

BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 July 2018 12:44 (six years ago) link

no elevators -- the escalator video of DJT & M descending to make his speech where he announced his candidacy that i will not link or ever watch again if i can avoid it

ALSO at the girls rock end-of-camp showcase last weekend a wee camper DJ played "rockin in the free world" during her DJ set and i shed a tear or 5

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 July 2018 12:47 (six years ago) link

oh christ i'd forgotten about that ;_;

BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 July 2018 12:52 (six years ago) link

The “country ham” line in Albuquerque has always kind of taken me out of the moment.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 20 July 2018 20:58 (six years ago) link

what, the fried eggs are ok but not the ham?
i like that the line it rhymes with is super poignant. it elevates the ham.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 20 July 2018 21:10 (six years ago) link

definitely makes me want some fried eggs and country ham

tylerw, Friday, 20 July 2018 21:23 (six years ago) link

As all music should.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 20 July 2018 22:02 (six years ago) link

nobody can make you feel an unexpected minor chord like neil

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Friday, 20 July 2018 22:05 (six years ago) link

ha true!

InfoWarriors (Spottie), Friday, 20 July 2018 22:33 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

neil young is good

gbx, Friday, 14 September 2018 02:02 (six years ago) link

can confirm

Machine Gunk Jelly (Spottie), Thursday, 20 September 2018 20:12 (six years ago) link

http://www.sugarmtn.org/extras/198010030sticker.jpg

tylerw, Thursday, 20 September 2018 22:17 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Zuma is a good shout for #1. No Live Rust? No After the Goldrush? SMDH

Neil S, Thursday, 25 October 2018 10:54 (six years ago) link

I like/love 'em all, really. Post-Ragged Glory albums I'd rank with his best: Harvest Moon, Greendale, Psychedelic Pill.

Valentijn, Thursday, 25 October 2018 11:06 (six years ago) link

solid list for sure

the live at the fillmore east renditions of the everybody knows this is nowhere songs have taken over as the definitive versions for me in the last couple of years

la bébé du nom-nom (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 October 2018 11:34 (six years ago) link

when Keith Richards, recording his solo album, said he’d run out of material to write about, drummer Steve Jordan reminded him, “Think of Mick. Write about Mick.”

hahahaha that's amazing

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 25 October 2018 15:48 (six years ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.