Had this idea for several years and I've decided,with some help from my friends, to run another big poll. Its not an exclusively metal poll obviously but obviously metal is allowed. It's not just 'heavy' stuff either. As I will hopefully explain in a minute.
Not sure when voting will start and results be announced as I believe there's electronic poll/indie singles polls coming up and they are first (unless they wont be doing it for a while - will need to ask whoever is running them) But no harm in opening voting. We wont be jumping any queues or stepping on toes. And there's no rush.
There has already been an 80s poll so this won't simply be a rehash of that.
There will be no REM/talking Heads/Tom Petty/U2/Springsteen/Blondie/Stone Roses/Smiths type 'rock'.Yes technically they come under the banner of 'rock' but simply they do not fit what we are after. As emil.y puts it everyone will be "voting for their favourite 'things that rock' rather than 'things that are rock'. If you see the difference?" Just ask on thread if you want to know if something is allowed.
There will also be a tracks poll, which will have it's own nominations thread.
What will be allowed is the rockier end of indie/Alternative rock. You all know the stuff. think SST or Touch & Go. Big Black, Sonic Youth,Minutemen,Sonic Youth,Husker du,JAMC, Butthole Surfers,The Young Gods,Swans etc etc but not just confined to that.
Any metal is allowed. Same with Heavy rock. Yes Messrs Fever & Snappin that includes glam metal.
Punk is allowed but it shouldnt be too poppy. But we can iron all these things out on this thread.
Other things that cant be pigeonholed will be nominated and that's fine. It just has to ROCK. (more my definition than some other peoples)If you have any questions then please ask.
If i feel any nominations don't fit the remit of the poll I will not include them. If anyone has objections to what gets nominated then feel free to (nicely) mention it on the thread.
Above all please everyone be friendly and no silly arguments or flaming.
ps'London Calling' will NOT be allowed. I don't care if it was released in the USA in 1980 its a 70s album.
No doubt some of you will be confused as I'm utterly shite at explaining things so please feel free to ask about it. I'm a lot better at answering questions than explaining , honestly.
I guess I should start with a few nominations.
Rules - PLEASE bold all nominations. That way its easier for me and less likely to miss out on anything nominated.
Nirvana - BleachBad Brains - Bad BrainsSwans - Children Of GodRedd Kross - NeuroticaFlipper - Generic FlipperJesus And Mary Chain - DarklandsBig Black - AtomizerBig Black - Songs About FuckingBlack Flag - DamagedDinosaur Jr - You're Living All Over MeMeat Puppets- IIHusker Du - Metal CircusHusker Du - Zen ArcadeHusker Du - New day RisingHusker Du - Flip Your WigCandlemass - Epicus Doomicus MetallicusTrouble - Psalm 9Young Gods - L'eau RougeSaint Vitus - Born Too LateMetallica - Ride The LightningMinistry - The Land of Rape and HoneyDischarge - Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say NothingMudhoney - Superfuzz Bigmuff Melvins - OzmaSonic Youth - Sister
Thank you for reading this and I hope everyone has fun. Hopefully we can work out soon when we can start voting. (if anyone from the other big polls that are planned are reading this please webmail me).
Nominate away!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:04 (twelve years ago) link
U2 - The Joshua Tree
― omar little, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:07 (twelve years ago) link
The Telescopes - Taste
(emil.y in Telescopes nomination shocker.)
― emil.y, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:07 (twelve years ago) link
There *will* be arguments. But hey, that's part of the fun of a non-strict genre poll, right?
― emil.y, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:08 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, and I missed the first rule of thread.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:09 (twelve years ago) link
one two ilxors can't read rules then :)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:15 (twelve years ago) link
btw Sisters Of mercy type goth ok. The Cure = no (sorry dan)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:17 (twelve years ago) link
Some great albums in the OP.
Voivod - Nothingface
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
Motorhead - Ace of Spades
― musicfanatic, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:23 (twelve years ago) link
I get to pick:
Slayer - Reign in Blood
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:23 (twelve years ago) link
Sisters of Mercy - Floodland
― Hamster of Legend (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:23 (twelve years ago) link
― Hamster of Legend (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
Killing Joke - Killing Joke
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
What are the paramaters whereby Sonic Youth and Swans and Jesus and Mary Chain rock more than R.E.M. or Tom Petty or U2 or Springsteen?
― timellison, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
Or the Meat Puppets or the Minutemen.
you guys should have a verification widget
enter album title: widget processes: SAD TROMBONE.WAV YOUR ALBUM DOES NOT ROCK
:D
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
Godflesh - Streetcleaner
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:25 (twelve years ago) link
xpost I imagine the parameters are "THEIR POLL: THEIR RULES"
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:25 (twelve years ago) link
xps
mine :)
xp
aye
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:25 (twelve years ago) link
AC/DC - Back in BlackDef Leppard - PyromaniaDef Leppard - Hysteria
― musicfanatic, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:26 (twelve years ago) link
fIREHOSE - Ragin', Full On
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:27 (twelve years ago) link
Def Leppard - On Through the NightQueensryche - Operation: Mindcrime
btw nothing against those bands. i like most of them. They just dont fit in with my idea of the poll.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:28 (twelve years ago) link
― timellison, Wednesday, August 1, 2012 1:24 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I will say that this is harder to judge for albums, where there are some rockers and some non-rockers. I'd be likely to let people choose their own level of rockage, as long as you could post proof that the song does indeed rock. But it is AG's poll not mine, so he gets to choose the rules.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:28 (twelve years ago) link
I think the idea is that they are trying to do an 80s rock poll that does not include 80s college or radio rock. It is somewhat arbitrary, but I understand what they're going for.
― Hamster of Legend (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:28 (twelve years ago) link
It looks like the criteria has more to do with being fringe than being rock. There's no reason whatsoever to say that the BH Surfers rock more than R.E.M.
― timellison, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:30 (twelve years ago) link
You mean besides the documented, objective fact that REM don't rock?
― Hamster of Legend (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:31 (twelve years ago) link
the criteria has more to do with being fringe than being rock. There's no reason whatsoever to say that the BH Surfers rock more than R.E.M.
Def Leppard is acceptable so it's not about being fringe.
xpost
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:31 (twelve years ago) link
It seems to be with alt/indie stuff.
― timellison, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:32 (twelve years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, August 1, 2012 1:24 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This is actually hilarious. I wish we had one.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:32 (twelve years ago) link
Please someone make it exist!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:34 (twelve years ago) link
If anything, it seems to be more about being heavy (as opposed to wispy jangle). Of the bands you listed, only JAMC raises doubts in my mind. (After the first album, they weren't all that different from REM.)
xpost to timellison
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:34 (twelve years ago) link
So a part of the criteria is that it has to be underground? So no AC/DC even though it "rocks" in the sense you're referring to? Just trying to get my bearings straight.
― musicfanatic, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:35 (twelve years ago) link
D. Boon used a Fender Twin.
― timellison, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:36 (twelve years ago) link
Blind Idiot God - Undertow
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:36 (twelve years ago) link
AC/DC is allowed. Even though they suck.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:37 (twelve years ago) link
:)
― musicfanatic, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:38 (twelve years ago) link
Van Halen - 1984
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:38 (twelve years ago) link
Last Exit - KölnSonny Sharrock - Guitar
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:45 (twelve years ago) link
Does this count?:King Crimson - Discipline
Sure, it rocks
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:45 (twelve years ago) link
I accidentally nominated this on the tracks thread:
R.E.M. - Lifes Rich Pageant
― timellison, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago) link
Minor Threat - Minor ThreatRites Of Spring - End on EndEmbrace - Embrace
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:49 (twelve years ago) link
Tbf, I'd personally probably agree that Life's Rich Pageant rocks harder than Darklands. However, I like the idea of this poll so much that it's more fun to just play along with the criteria.
xpost to tim
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:50 (twelve years ago) link
I'm just paranoid enough to believe that AG and Viceroy devised this poll specifically with me in mind. You're gonna make me work for my nominations, aren't you.
I already know 95% of my ideal noms "do not rock"
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:52 (twelve years ago) link
*Cough birthday party cough*
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:53 (twelve years ago) link
Ha, I was just about to nominate The Birthday Party - Prayers on Fire
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:54 (twelve years ago) link
"Heavier" covers some of it. "Uglier guitar tones" covers some of it. "Rocks harder" doesn't seem to.
― timellison, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:57 (twelve years ago) link
xxpost like I said, 95%
;_;
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:58 (twelve years ago) link
Oh sorry, did I steal your moment there, VG?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 00:59 (twelve years ago) link
If I may...
Loop - Black SunLoop - The World in Your Eyes
― righteousmaelstrom, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 01:03 (twelve years ago) link
should be fun, hostility towards "overground" and pop stuff sucks. ramones rock, and they're pop as fuck. for instance:
Ramones - End of the Century
not the most rockingest shit they ever cut, obv, but still pretty damn great. tbh, the idea that J&MC's darkland "rocks" is way more offensive to me than the threat of pop. otoh, it's not my poll, so...
also:
Lazy Cowgirls - Tapping the SourceBad Brains - I Against IBlue Oyster Cult - Cultosaurus ErectusLemonheads - Hate Your Friends (for reals)Spacemen 3 - Sound of ConfusionThe Scientists - Blood Red RiverCosmic Psychos - Go the HackKilldozer - Snake BoyScratch Acid - s/t & Just Keep EatingThe Cynics - Blue Train Station
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 01:05 (twelve years ago) link
dead kennedys - fresh fruit for rotting vegetablesx - los angelesjoan jett - bad reputationrush - moving pictures x - wild giftiron maiden - number of the beastthe misfits - walk among usdio - holy divermotley crue - shout at the devilfela kuti - original suffer head / TIiron maiden - powerslavemisfits - legacy of brutalitybon jovi - slippery when wetbathory - under the sign of the black markmanowar - fighting the world
sorry if i did it wrong
― Mordy, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 01:10 (twelve years ago) link
nice try sneaking that in mordy. You think because i adore him i'd allow it? haha
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 01:13 (twelve years ago) link
lol Sund4r, it's cool
Hopefully these will make the cut?
Manowar - Sign of the HammerX - Los AngelesBlack Sabbath - Mob RulesIron Maiden - KillersIron Maiden - Number of the BeastMotley Crue - Too Fast For LoveDio - Last In LineReplacements - Let It BeScorpions - Love At First StingTwisted Sister - Stay HungryWASP - WASPJane's Addiction - Nothing's ShockingMinistry - Land of Rape and HoneySoundgarden - Louder Than Love
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 01:16 (twelve years ago) link
Christian Death - Only Theatre of Pain
― wk, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 01:21 (twelve years ago) link
Soundgarden - Ultra Mega OKScreaming Trees - Buzz Factory
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
lol this would probably just be easier if everyone submitted ballots and you strike whatever doesn't fit the criteria from said ballots when tallying points. Results would be a complete surprise.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 01:26 (twelve years ago) link
Mission of Burma - Vs.
― righteousmaelstrom, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 01:27 (twelve years ago) link
Boredoms - Soul Discharge
― wk, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 01:27 (twelve years ago) link
it's the poll equivalent of the sounddrop room; instead of deleting songs that are 'lame', here the albums are just deemed ineligible. :D
I know you said glam but I figured I'd not waste my noms on Faster Pussycat and LA Guns, lol
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 01:29 (twelve years ago) link
Fugazi - FugaziFugazi - Margin Walker
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 01:29 (twelve years ago) link
Pixies - Come On PilgrimPixies - Surfer RosaPixies - Doolittle
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 01:31 (twelve years ago) link
Sonic Youth - Confusion Is Sex
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 01:46 (twelve years ago) link
The Fall - This Nation's Saving GracePussy Galore - Sugarshit Sharp <-- an EP, does that count?Glenn Branca - The Ascension
― Killer of Shrimp (Spectrist), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 01:51 (twelve years ago) link
I almost forgot this!:King Diamond - Abigail
Ha, I was going to ask if Branca counts.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 01:52 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah if not the whole album, then at least the title track for the other poll.
ps STOKED
― Killer of Shrimp (Spectrist), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 01:56 (twelve years ago) link
I think ep's as in mini albums count (like minor threat,superfuzz bigmuff or metal circus) 3 or 4 track eps that arent very long are more for the tracks poll.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 02:01 (twelve years ago) link
and yeah the Branca is fine
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 02:02 (twelve years ago) link
I'm curious about the criteria for qualification with fIREHOSE, Pixies, the Fall, and Spacemen 3.
― timellison, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 02:26 (twelve years ago) link
(if they do indeed qualify)
maybe we will do an indiepop/college rock poll sometime after this. (that was the plan but it was meant to be a surprise if this poll went well)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 02:30 (twelve years ago) link
Noisy, or at least harsh, guitars?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 02:40 (twelve years ago) link
rites of spring - s|t
― Mordy, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 02:42 (twelve years ago) link
By the criteria of this thread I'd be surprised if Spacemen 3 count. But again, not my rules.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 02:43 (twelve years ago) link
i think the 1st album is fine, later stuff no chance
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 02:43 (twelve years ago) link
^^^ posts v much in character :)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 02:51 (twelve years ago) link
go stand on a chair and headbang
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 02:52 (twelve years ago) link
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, July 31, 2012 7:43 PM (3 minutes ago)
^ why i only nominated SOC (though "revolution" deserves a slot in singles)
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 02:57 (twelve years ago) link
Swans - FilthChrome - Blood on the MoonChrome - Third From the SunThe Fuzztones - Lysergic EmanationsGuns N' Roses - Appetite For DestructionLiving Colour - VividThe Cult - ElectricTSOL - Change Today?NoMeansNo - WrongBand of Susans - Love Agenda
― cock chirea, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:00 (twelve years ago) link
Judas Priest - British SteelCryptic Slaughter - Money TalksRaw Power - Screams From the GutterSuicidal Tendencies - InstitutionalizedMegadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buying?Exodus - Fabulous DisasterCheap Trick - One On OneSkid Row - Slave to the GrindGuns N' Roses - Appetite for DestructionMotley Crue - Shout At the DevilDeath - Scream Bloody GoreNapalm Death - ScumCarcass - Symphonies of SicknessGodflesh - StreetcleanerMercyful Fate - MelissaVenom - Welcome to HellMetallica - Master of Puppets
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:03 (twelve years ago) link
wait, pardon me...
Oh, for some reason, I thought Scum was 90s.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:08 (twelve years ago) link
Joan Jett - Bad Reputation
― cock chirea, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:09 (twelve years ago) link
Head of David should be nommed. Can't recall any of their stuff tho.
― cock chirea, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:10 (twelve years ago) link
Head Of David - DustbowlHead Of David - Head Of David
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:11 (twelve years ago) link
much better
Lyres - Lyres LyresPussy Galore - Dial 'M' for MotherfuckerNaked Raygun - Throb ThrobCelibate Rifles - The Turgid Miasma of ExistenceThee Mighty Caesars - English Punk Rock ExplosionThe Nomads - Outburst
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:12 (twelve years ago) link
Extreme Noise Terror - A Holocaust in Your Head
― cock chirea, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:12 (twelve years ago) link
i am mad about people nominating pixes and early swans and sonic youth. mostly because i like to be made about things, but also cuz the former seem too indie-pop for this poll, and the latter don't rock in any sense i understand. "death valley '69", otoh, definitely belongs in tracks.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:15 (twelve years ago) link
Sister and Daydream Nation totally rock in classic fashion; 80s Swans grinds like metal.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:16 (twelve years ago) link
NoMeansNo - WrongJoan Jett - Bad Reputation
― cock chirea
otmfm
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:16 (twelve years ago) link
"stereo sanctity" and "rain king" fucking rock. sister and daydream nation i dunno about, but it's not up to me.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:17 (twelve years ago) link
but i nominated albums with wimpy shit, so whatevs
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:18 (twelve years ago) link
Why single out "Rain King" over "Teenage Riot", "Silver Rocket", "'Cross the Breeze", "Total Trash", "Eliminator Jr",...?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:19 (twelve years ago) link
cuz it's so mean. but yeah, you're right: silver rocket, half of total trash, eliminator jr.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:20 (twelve years ago) link
Didjits - Hey Judester
eric's trip too
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:21 (twelve years ago) link
white kross, pch, hot wire my heart, point taken. it's funny, but those albums are defined in my head by their blurrier & softer aspects, but song for song, there's a lot of straight up action rock.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:22 (twelve years ago) link
confusion is sex has a good amount of legit rockers: inhuman, world looks red, making the nature scene, etc.
― cock chirea, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:24 (twelve years ago) link
There are soft/blurry tracks on Zeppelin and Sabbath albums too!
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:26 (twelve years ago) link
ZZ Top - Eliminator
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:32 (twelve years ago) link
Run-D.M.C. - King of RockBeastie Boys - Licensed to Ill
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:37 (twelve years ago) link
lol I already know what's gonna happen to those
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:38 (twelve years ago) link
yeah dont think we can allow them
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:39 (twelve years ago) link
im sure a few tracks are totally eligible for the tracks poll however!
i know, i'd just hate to see the pixies and sonic youth (though i love em both and the latter are maybe my favorite 80s rock band) wind up at the top of an explicitly anti-indie punk/hardrock/metal poll
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:39 (twelve years ago) link
oops, looks like the goalkeeper has spoken
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:40 (twelve years ago) link
:( about beastie boys and run-DMC. poop.
see, i'd LOVE to see run-DMC sweep a metal poll
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:41 (twelve years ago) link
Descendents - Milo Goes To CollegeFire Party - s/tBilly Idol - Rebel YellKix - s/tLoverboy - Get LuckyMotorhead - OrgasmatronMy Bloody Valentine - Isn't AnythingPoison - Open Up And Say...Ahhh!Replacements - Sorry Ma, Forgot To Take Out The TrashScreaming Trees - Even If & Especially WhenThree Johns - Atom Drum BopWarrant - Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking RichWipers - Youth Of AmericaWipers - Over The EdgeNeil Young & Crazy Horse - Re*Ac*Tor
― da croupier, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:43 (twelve years ago) link
It occurs to me that the criteria for eligibility seem pretty similar to those for Stairway to Hell (except that Run DMC made it into that iirc?).
xpost Ha, Kix nom!
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:45 (twelve years ago) link
That book is definitely responsible for me checking out at least 5 of those albums I nominated
― da croupier, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:48 (twelve years ago) link
Screaming Trees - Even If & Especially WhenThree Johns - Atom Drum BopWipers - Youth Of America
fuck yeah
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:48 (twelve years ago) link
its not a metal poll contenderizer. indie rock that rocks is fine. indie pop not
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:52 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i geddit. anywayz...
The Gun Club - Fire of LoveThe Cramps - Bad Music for Bad People (a comp, but definitive)
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:53 (twelve years ago) link
Slint - TweezBitch Magnet - UmberBastro - Diablo Guapo
― cock chirea, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:54 (twelve years ago) link
Drunks with Guns - Drunks with Guns (s/t on chopper)
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 03:57 (twelve years ago) link
Avengers - Avengers (s/t on civil defense)Pagans - Buried Alive
^ two more artist comps
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 04:01 (twelve years ago) link
Thin Lizzy - Thunder and LightningEnglish Dogs - Forward Into Battle
― cock chirea, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 04:03 (twelve years ago) link
Dream Syndicate - The Days of Wine and RosesThe Lords of the New Church - The Method to Our Madness
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 04:08 (twelve years ago) link
Nick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Your Funeral, My TrialNick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Firstborn Is Dead
honestly I think Firstborn might qualify more as 'rock' for the blues thing but the formula's pretty much impenetrable, lol so I'll throw both out.
Agent Orange - Living in DarknessThe Pretenders - Pretenders IIJudas Priest - Screaming For VengeanceY&T - Open Fire (live)
the last vote's just for my own amusement
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 04:11 (twelve years ago) link
Indie pop cannot rock?
― timellison, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 04:19 (twelve years ago) link
don't get too sad, tim, i think the boss rocks too but kerr won't let me nom him
― Mordy, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 04:22 (twelve years ago) link
la pop ne rock pas plus
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 04:23 (twelve years ago) link
rule out everything you've ever heard on the radio for a start
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 04:24 (twelve years ago) link
Except if it's pop metal.
― timellison, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 04:28 (twelve years ago) link
Darklands is about as heavy as Tiny Tim which gives me some confusion from the off tbh
― Shrimpface Killah (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 07:19 (twelve years ago) link
Dead Kennedys – Fresh Fruit for Rotting VegetablesGlenn Branca – The AscensionWipers – Youth of AmericaMinutemen – Double Nickels on the DimeScraping Foetus Off The Wheel – Nail Beat Happening – Beat HappeningEinsturzende Neubauten – Haus der Lüge Pixies – Surfer Rosa
Do Television Personalities fit i'd love to nominate them but maybe they're too twee? Also why has noone nominated the Pixies? Are they forbidden? If so I'm sorry.
― Moka, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 07:55 (twelve years ago) link
smdh@ jamc
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 08:09 (twelve years ago) link
Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind
― Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 08:55 (twelve years ago) link
Beat Happening – Beat Happening
lmao
― cock chirea, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 09:18 (twelve years ago) link
George Thorogood & The Destroyers - Bad to the Bone
― cock chirea, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 09:21 (twelve years ago) link
D.R.I. - Dealing With ItMetallica - ...And Justice For AllDead Milkmen - Beelzebubba
Do comps or soundtracks count?
― how's life, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 10:43 (twelve years ago) link
plugz - better luckcrass - christ - the albumthe ex - 1936 spanish revolutionminor threat - out of stepcows - daddy has a tailpil - flowers of romance
― Crackle Box, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 11:18 (twelve years ago) link
Squirrel Bait - Skag HeavenThin White Rope - MoonheadLive Skull - DustedMX-80 Sound - Out Of The TunnelBirthday Party - JunkyardHalo of Flies - GarbageburnWolfhounds - Bright & Guilty
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 11:51 (twelve years ago) link
Also why has noone nominated the Pixies? Are they forbidden? If so I'm sorry.
Johnny had already nominated three Pixies albums!
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 12:52 (twelve years ago) link
Exciter: Long Live the LoudJudas Priest: Defenders of the FaithHelios Creed: The Last LaughVoivod: Dimension HatrossVenom: PossessedCeltic Frost: To Mega TherionLoop: Fade Out (their pinnacle)This Heat: Deceit
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 1 August 2012 13:34 (twelve years ago) link
ok fine i can remove jamc
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 13:36 (twelve years ago) link
comps are ok if the artist has no full albums, but no greatest hits type things. (please point out if anything nominated is like that)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link
Ok so far we haveAC/DC - Back in BlackAgent Orange - Living in DarknessAvengers - AvengersBad Brains - Bad BrainsBad Brains - I Against IBad Brains - s/tBand of Susans - Love AgendaBastro - Diablo GuapoBathory - Under The Sign Of The Black MarkBeat Happening – Beat HappeningBig Black - AtomizerBig Black - Songs About FuckingBilly Idol - Rebel YellBirthday Party - JunkyardBitch Magnet - UmberBlack Flag - DamagedBlack Sabbath - Mob RulesBlind Idiot God - UndertowBlue Oyster Cult - Cultosaurus ErectusBon Jovi - Slippery When WetBoredoms - Soul DischargeCandlemass - Epicus Doomicus MetallicusCandlemass -NightfallCapt Beefheart - Doc at the Radar StationCapt Beefheart - Ice Cream for CrowCarcass - Symphonies of SicknessCelibate Rifles - The Turgid Miasma of ExistenceCeltic Frost - Into the PandemoniumCeltic Frost - Morbid TalesCeltic Frost - To Mega TherionCheap Trick - One On OneChristian Death - Only Theatre of PainChrome - Blood on the MoonChrome - Third From the SunCorrosion of Conformity - AnimosityCosmic Psychos - Go the Hackcows - daddy has a tailcrass - christ - the albumCryptic Slaughter - Money TalksD.R.I. - Dealing With ItDead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotten VegetablesDead Milkmen - BeelzebubbaDeath - Scream Bloody GoreDef Leppard - HysteriaDef Leppard - On Through the NightDef Leppard - PyromaniaDescendents - Milo Goes To CollegeDidjits - Hey JudesterDinosaur Jr - You're Living All Over MeDio - Holy DiverDio - Last In LineDischarge - Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say NothingDream Syndicate - The Days of Wine and RosesDrunks with Guns - Drunks with GunsEinsturzende Neubauten – Haus der LügeEmbrace - EmbraceEnglish Dogs - Forward Into BattleExciter - Long Live the LoudExodus - Fabulous DisasterExtreme Noise Terror - A Holocaust in Your HeadF/I - Space MantraFire Party - s/tfIREHOSE - Ragin', Full OnFlipper - Generic FlipperFugazi - FugaziFugazi - Margin WalkerGame Theory - Big Shot ChroniclesGeorge Thorogood & The Destroyers - Bad to the BoneGlenn Branca - The AscensionGodflesh - StreetcleanerGuns N' Roses - Appetite For DestructionGuns N' Roses - Appetite for DestructionHalo of Flies - GarbageburnHead Of David - DustbowlHead Of David - Head Of DavidHelios Creed - Superior Catholic FingerHelios Creed - The Last LaughHusker Du - Flip Your WigHusker Du - Metal CircusHusker Du - New day RisingHusker Du - Zen ArcadeIron Maiden - KillersIron Maiden - Number Of The BeastIron Maiden - Piece of MindIron Maiden - PowerslaveJane's Addiction - Nothing's ShockingJesus And Mary Chain - DarklandsJoan Jett - Bad reputationJudas Priest - British SteelJudas Priest - Defenders of the FaithJudas Priest - Screaming For VengeanceKilldozer - Snake BoyKilling Joke - Killing JokeKing Crimson - DisciplineKing Diamond - AbigailKix - s/tLast Exit - KölnLazy Cowgirls - Tapping the SourceLemonheads - Hate Your FriendsLive Skull - DustedLiving Colour - VividLoop - Black SunLoop - The World in Your EyesLoop: - Fade Out Loverboy - Get LuckyLyres - Lyres LyresManowar - Fighting The WorldManowar - Sign of the HammerMasters Of Reality- Masters Of RealityMeat Puppets- IIMegadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buying?Melvins - OzmaMercyful Fate - MelissaMetallica - ...And Justice For AllMetallica - Master of PuppetsMetallica - Ride The LightningMinistry - Land of Rape and HoneyMinistry - The Land of Rape and HoneyMinor Threat - Minor ThreatMinor Threat - out of stepMinutemen – Double Nickels on the DimeMisfits - Legacy Of BrutalityMission of Burma - Vs.Motley Crue - Shout At The DevilMotley Crue - Too Fast For LoveMotorhead - Ace of SpadesMotorhead - OrgasmatronMudhoney - Superfuzz BigmuffMX-80 Sound - Out Of The TunnelMy Bloody Valentine - Isn't AnythingNaked Raygun - Throb ThrobNapalm Death - ScumNeil Young & Crazy Horse - Re*Ac*TorNick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Firstborn Is DeadNick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Your Funeral, My TrialNirvana - BleachNoMeansNo - WrongPagans - Buried Alivepil - flowers of romancePixies - Come On PilgrimPixies - DoolittlePixies - Surfer Rosaplugz - better luckPoison - Open Up And Say...Ahhh!Pussy Galore - Dial 'M' for MotherfuckerPussy Galore - Sugarshit SharpQueensryche - Operation: MindcrimeRamones - End of the CenturyRaw Power - Screams From the GutterRedd Kross - NeuroticaRedd Kross -Third EyeReplacements - Let It BeReplacements - Sorry Ma, Forgot To Take Out The TrashRites Of Spring - End on Endrites of spring - s/tRush - Moving PicturesSaint Vitus - Born Too LateScorpions - Love At First StingScraping Foetus Off The Wheel – NailScratch Acid - s/t & Just Keep EatingScreaming Trees - Buzz FactoryScreaming Trees - Even If & Especially WhenSisters of Mercy - Floodland Skid Row - Slave to the GrindSlayer - Reign in BloodSlint - TweezSonic Youth - Confusion Is SexSonic Youth - SisterSonny Sharrock - GuitarSoundgarden - Louder Than LoveSoundgarden - Ultra Mega OKSpacemen 3 - Sound of ConfusionSquirrel Bait - Skag HeavenSuicidal Tendencies - InstitutionalizedSwans - Children Of GodSwans - FilthThe Birthday Party - Prayers on FireThe Cult - ElectricThe Cynics - Blue Train Stationthe ex - 1936 spanish revolutionThe Fall - Hex Enduction HouirThe Fall - Perverted by LanguageThe Fall - This Nation's Saving GraceThe Fuzztones - Lysergic EmanationsThe Gun Club - Fire of LoveThe Gun Club - The Las Vegas StoryThe Lords of the New Church - The Method to Our MadnessThe Misfits - Walk Among UsThe Nomads - OutburstThe Pretenders - Pretenders IIThe Scientists - Blood Red RiverThe Telescopes - TasteThee Mighty Caesars - English Punk Rock ExplosionThin Lizzy - Thunder and LightningThin White Rope - MoonheadThis Heat - DeceitThree Johns - Atom Drum BopThrowing Muses - s/tThrowing Muses - The Real RamonaTrouble - Psalm 9TSOL - Change Today?Twisted Sister - Stay HungryUt - ConvictionVan Halen - 1984Venom - PossessedVenom - Welcome to HellVoivod - Dimension HatrossVoivod - NothingfaceWarrant - Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking RichWASP - WASPWipers - Over The EdgeWipers - Youth Of AmericaWolfhounds - Bright & GuiltyX - Los AngelesX - Wild GiftY&T - Open FireYoung Gods - L'eau RougeZZ Top - Eliminator
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
How completist are we being with this? Cuz if they're going to have representation as artists, Bathory's s/t and Blood Fire Death really need to be on there, as do Venom's Black Metal and At War With Satan, plus a lot of other things from other artists I'm sure. Is the concern excessive vote-splitting?
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 1 August 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
I meant like, soundtracks.
― how's life, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
or like, flex your head or something
Not at all. Nominate it all.
Im not sure with soundtracks. I guess if its a soundtrack by the one artist and you wanna vote for it then its fine. (things may change once i see whats nominated obviously)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
Can i remind you all to nominate tracks here Pfunkboy, Viceroy & emil.y productions present: the most rockingest tracks of the 1980s poll NOMINATIONS THREAD
^ i've nominated a few comps: the avengers s/t, the cramps bad music for bad people, and the pagans buried alive. each is the artist's definitive release, and none announces itself as a comp.
the avengers album was for ages the only full-length one might hope to find by the band, and while the pagans did put out one "proper album" during their lifetime, they've always been known for the clutch of singles collected on buried alive. bad music for bad people is thee essential cramps album, and none of these bands ever really had "hits" anyway.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
I think genre polls are more forgiving where comps and/or soundtracks are concerned. Or they should be, at least.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
― Clarke B., Wednesday, August 1, 2012 8:50 AM (3 minutes ago)
yes, the concern is vote-splitting. i nominated venom's in league with satan because it's my favorite venom album. i was hoping it would be the only venom album nominated, cuz that'd give it a better shot at finishing high, but if other people prefer black metal or w/e, then i figure they'll nominate it. the goal shouldn't be complete representation of an artist's output, it should be complete representation of the shit that ILM posters love above all else.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
derp, venom's in league with satan WELCOME TO HELL, ffs
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
i do especially love that song, though
Unless others object then I guess those comps can count. Doesnt mean ALL comps are though. Will play it by ear.
Im happy for noms to be completist. Nothing worse than people complaining that their fave album ever ,that they could not be arsed to nominate , isnt included.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
Not a popular choice, but Possessed is probably my fave! I'll vote for any Venom record on the list, though. I'm new to contributing to these, so I'm still getting the strategy straight.
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 1 August 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
Hi folks! Apparently I'm helping run this thing. Anything I can do for you? Warm Towells? Tea? Coffee?
― Ring brother, ring for me! (Viceroy), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
also can I just nom:
Ministry - The Land of Rape and Honey
― Ring brother, ring for me! (Viceroy), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
it appears to be there TWICE already haha
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link
LOL nm then hah
― Ring brother, ring for me! (Viceroy), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
Slovenly: We Shoot For the MoonThe Sound: JeopardyThe Wedding Present: Bizarro
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 1 August 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
Would the Feelies qualify or do they not have ugly enough guitar tones?
― timellison, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
lol, sorry, I copy and pasted from my 'best indie albums' list and forgot to remove that one. It's definitely too twee, lo-fi, for this poll. Please remove it.
― Moka, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
― timellison, Wednesday, August 1, 2012 12:29 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This crossed my mind as well, but I decided they flop too much to rock enough for this list.
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 1 August 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
Naked City - Naked City
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
(Does that count?)
No Rickenbackers allowed?
― timellison, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
black flag - jealous againblack flag - my warblack flag - slip it inblack flag - in my headchrome - red exposurecop shoot cop - headkick facsimilecramps - songs the lord taught uscramps - psychedelic junglecramps - smell of femaledinosaur - s/teinsturzende neubauten - kollapseinsturzende neubauten - drawings of OTeinsturzende neubauten - halber menscheinsturzende neubauten - fuenf auf der nach oben offenen richterskalahalo of flies - singles going nowherekilslug - answer the calllive skull - s/tlive skull - bringing home the baitlive skull - cloud onemisfits - bewaremisfits - earth ADmonster magnet - forget about life I'm high on dopeno trend – when death won't solve your problem scientists - this heart doesn't run on blood, this heart doesn't run on lovescientists - weird lovescraping foetus off the wheel - holeskullflower - form destroyersonic youth - evolswans - s/tswans - copswans - public castration is a good idea
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
jesus christ edward III is me
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link
hi me!
bauhaus - in the flat fieldbauhaus - the sky's gone outbutthole surfers - a brown reason to livebutthole surfers - psychic... powerless... another man's sacbutthole surfers - rembrandt pussyhorsebutthole surfers - locust abortion techniciandie kreuzen - s/tdog faced hermans - humans flyflesheaters - a minute to pray a second to diegrong grong - s/tkilldozer - intellectuals are the shoeshine boys of the ruling elitelubricated goat - paddock of love
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
A certain poster not posting on ilx insists that Spacemen 3 be allowed and ive agreed.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
also do us a favour and capitalize like the others do.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
otherwise its harder to catch doubles
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
and clarke use - instead of : please
your wish is my command
Bauhaus - In The Flat FieldBauhaus - The Sky'S Gone OutBlack Flag - In My HeadBlack Flag - Jealous AgainBlack Flag - My WarBlack Flag - Slip It InButthole Surfers - A Brown Reason To LiveButthole Surfers - Locust Abortion TechnicianButthole Surfers - Psychic... Powerless... Another Man'S SacButthole Surfers - Rembrandt PussyhorseChrome - Red ExposureCop Shoot Cop - Headkick FacsimileCramps - Psychedelic JungleCramps - Smell Of FemaleCramps - Songs The Lord Taught UsDie Kreuzen - S/TDinosaur - S/TDog Faced Hermans - Humans FlyEinsturzende Neubauten - Drawings Of OtEinsturzende Neubauten - Fuenf Auf Der Nach Oben Offenen RichterskalaEinsturzende Neubauten - Halber MenschEinsturzende Neubauten - KollapsFlesheaters - A Minute To Pray A Second To DieGrong Grong - S/THalo Of Flies - Singles Going NowhereKilldozer - Intellectuals Are The Shoeshine Boys Of The Ruling EliteKilslug - Answer The CallLive Skull - Bringing Home The BaitLive Skull - Cloud OneLive Skull - S/TLubricated Goat - Paddock Of LoveMisfits - BewareMisfits - Earth AdMonster Magnet - Forget About Life I'M High On DopeNo Trend – When Death Won'T Solve Your ProblemScientists - This Heart Doesn'T Run On Blood, This Heart Doesn'T Run On LoveScientists - Weird LoveScraping Foetus Off The Wheel - HoleSkullflower - Form DestroyerSonic Youth - EvolSwans - CopSwans - Public Castration Is A Good IdeaSwans - S/T
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link
Various Artists - Repo Man SoundtrackMetallica - Kill 'Em AllMelvins - Gluey Porch TreatmentsElectro Hippies - The Only Good Punk... Is A Dead OneMission of Burma - Signals, Calls, and MarchesSaint Vitus - VFaith No More - Introduce YourselfFaith No More - The Real ThingRapeman - Two Nuns and a Pack MuleMegadeth - Killing Is My Business... and Business Is Good!Megadeth - So Far, So Good... So WhatDinosaur Jr - BugSquirrel Bait - Squirrel BaitPoison Idea - Kings of PunkNapalm Death - From Enslavement to ObliterationObituary - Slowly We RotVoid/Faith Split LP
I'm sure I'll think of some more, there must be loads of fun glam and hard rock records not on the list.
― Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link
thanks
no various artists comps!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
also I suspect "the" will be your enemy, not capitalization, when it comes to spotting duplicates
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
oops sorry xp
― Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
though that Repo Man ST was one of the first things I thought of!
like the jesus & mary chain, their first album should definitely be included. beyond that, i'd be inclined to quibble.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
are v/a comps allowed? because if so
Various Artists - Dope-Guns-'N-Fucking in the Streets Volume 1-3
xpost well shit never mind
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
AC/DC - Back in BlackAgent Orange - Living in DarknessAR kane - 69Avengers - AvengersBad Brains - Bad BrainsBad Brains - I Against IBad Brains - s/tBand of Susans - Love AgendaBastro - Diablo GuapoBathory - Under The Sign Of The Black MarkBauhaus - In The Flat FieldBauhaus - The Sky'S Gone OutBeat Happening – Beat HappeningBig Black - AtomizerBig Black - Songs About FuckingBilly Idol - Rebel YellBirthday Party - JunkyardBitch Magnet - UmberBlack Flag - DamagedBlack Flag - In My HeadBlack Flag - Jealous AgainBlack Flag - My WarBlack Flag - Slip It InBlack Sabbath - Mob RulesBlind Idiot God - UndertowBlue Oyster Cult - Cultosaurus ErectusBon Jovi - Slippery When WetBoredoms - Soul DischargeButthole Surfers - A Brown Reason To LiveButthole Surfers - Locust Abortion TechnicianButthole Surfers - Psychic... Powerless... Another Man'S SacButthole Surfers - Rembrandt PussyhorseCandlemass - Epicus Doomicus MetallicusCandlemass -NightfallCapt Beefheart - Doc at the Radar StationCapt Beefheart - Ice Cream for CrowCarcass - Symphonies of SicknessCelibate Rifles - The Turgid Miasma of ExistenceCeltic Frost - Into the PandemoniumCeltic Frost - Morbid TalesCeltic Frost - To Mega TherionCheap Trick - One On OneChristian Death - Only Theatre of PainChrome - Blood on the MoonChrome - Red ExposureChrome - Third From the SunCop Shoot Cop - Headkick FacsimileCorrosion of Conformity - AnimosityCosmic Psychos - Go the Hackcows - daddy has a tailCramps - Psychedelic JungleCramps - Smell Of FemaleCramps - Songs The Lord Taught Uscrass - christ - the albumCryptic Slaughter - Money TalksD.R.I. - Dealing With ItDead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotten VegetablesDead Milkmen - BeelzebubbaDeath - Scream Bloody GoreDef Leppard - HysteriaDef Leppard - On Through the NightDef Leppard - PyromaniaDescendents - Milo Goes To CollegeDidjits - Hey JudesterDie Kreuzen - S/TDinosaur - S/TDinosaur Jr - BugDinosaur Jr - You're Living All Over MeDio - Holy DiverDio - Last In LineDischarge - Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say NothingDog Faced Hermans - Humans FlyDream Syndicate - The Days of Wine and RosesDrunks with Guns - Drunks with GunsEinsturzende Neubauten - Drawings Of OtEinsturzende Neubauten - Fuenf Auf Der Nach Oben Offenen RichterskalaEinsturzende Neubauten - Halber MenschEinsturzende Neubauten – Haus der LügeEinsturzende Neubauten - KollapsElectro Hippies - The Only Good Punk... Is A Dead OneEmbrace - EmbraceEnglish Dogs - Forward Into BattleExciter - Long Live the LoudExodus - Fabulous DisasterExtreme Noise Terror - A Holocaust in Your HeadF/I - Space MantraFaith No More - Introduce YourselfFaith No More - The Real ThingFire Party - s/tfIREHOSE - Ragin', Full OnFlesheaters - A Minute To Pray A Second To DieFlipper - Generic FlipperFugazi - FugaziFugazi - Margin WalkerGame Theory - Big Shot ChroniclesGeorge Thorogood & The Destroyers - Bad to the BoneGlenn Branca - The AscensionGodflesh - StreetcleanerGrong Grong - S/TGuns N' Roses - Appetite For DestructionGuns N' Roses - Appetite for DestructionHalo of Flies - GarbageburnHalo Of Flies - Singles Going NowhereHead Of David - DustbowlHead Of David - Head Of DavidHelios Creed - Superior Catholic FingerHelios Creed - The Last LaughHusker Du - Flip Your WigHusker Du - Metal CircusHusker Du - New day RisingHusker Du - Zen ArcadeIron Maiden - KillersIron Maiden - Number Of The BeastIron Maiden - Piece of MindIron Maiden - PowerslaveJane's Addiction - Nothing's ShockingJesus And Mary Chain - DarklandsJoan Jett - Bad reputationJudas Priest - British SteelJudas Priest - Defenders of the FaithJudas Priest - Screaming For VengeanceKilldozer - Intellectuals Are The Shoeshine Boys Of The Ruling EliteKilldozer - Snake BoyKilling Joke - Killing JokeKilslug - Answer The CallKing Crimson - DisciplineKing Diamond - AbigailKix - s/tLast Exit - KölnLazy Cowgirls - Tapping the SourceLemonheads - Hate Your FriendsLive Skull - Bringing Home The BaitLive Skull - Cloud OneLive Skull - DustedLive Skull - S/TLiving Colour - VividLoop - Black SunLoop - The World in Your EyesLoop: - Fade Out Loverboy - Get LuckyLubricated Goat - Paddock Of LoveLyres - Lyres LyresManowar - Fighting The WorldManowar - Sign of the HammerMasters Of Reality- Masters Of RealityMeat Puppets- IIMegadeth - Killing Is My Business... and Business Is Good!Megadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buying?Megadeth - So Far, So Good... So WhatMelvins - Gluey Porch TreatmentsMelvins - OzmaMercyful Fate - MelissaMetallica - ...And Justice For AllMetallica - Kill 'Em AllMetallica - Master of PuppetsMetallica - Ride The LightningMinistry - The Land of Rape and HoneyMinor Threat - Minor ThreatMinor Threat - out of stepMinutemen – Double Nickels on the DimeMisfits - BewareMisfits - Earth AdMisfits - Legacy Of BrutalityMission of Burma - Signals, Calls, and MarchesMission of Burma - Vs.Monster Magnet - Forget About Life I'M High On DopeMotley Crue - Shout At The DevilMotley Crue - Too Fast For LoveMotorhead - Ace of SpadesMotorhead - OrgasmatronMudhoney - Superfuzz BigmuffMX-80 Sound - Out Of The TunnelMy Bloody Valentine - Isn't AnythingNaked City - Naked CityNaked Raygun - Throb ThrobNapalm Death - From Enslavement to ObliterationNapalm Death - ScumNeil Young & Crazy Horse - Re*Ac*TorNick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Firstborn Is DeadNick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Your Funeral, My TrialNirvana - BleachNo Trend – When Death Won'T Solve Your ProblemNoMeansNo - WrongObituary - Slowly We RotPagans - Buried Alivepil - flowers of romancePixies - Come On PilgrimPixies - DoolittlePixies - Surfer Rosaplugz - better luckPoison - Open Up And Say...Ahhh!Poison Idea - Kings of PunkPussy Galore - Dial 'M' for MotherfuckerPussy Galore - Sugarshit SharpQueensryche - Operation: MindcrimeRamones - End of the CenturyRapeman - Two Nuns and a Pack MuleRaw Power - Screams From the GutterRedd Kross - NeuroticaRedd Kross -Third EyeReplacements - Let It BeReplacements - Sorry Ma, Forgot To Take Out The TrashRites Of Spring - End on Endrites of spring - s/tRush - Moving PicturesSaint Vitus - Born Too LateSaint Vitus - VScientists - This Heart Doesn'T Run On Blood, This Heart Doesn'T Run On LoveScientists - Weird LoveScorpions - Love At First StingScraping Foetus Off The Wheel - HoleScraping Foetus Off The Wheel – NailScratch Acid - s/t & Just Keep EatingScreaming Trees - Buzz FactoryScreaming Trees - Even If & Especially WhenSisters of Mercy - Floodland Skid Row - Slave to the GrindSkullflower - Form DestroyerSlayer - Reign in BloodSlint - TweezSlovenly - We Shoot For the MoonSonic Youth - Confusion Is SexSonic Youth - EvolSonic Youth - SisterSonny Sharrock - GuitarSoundgarden - Louder Than LoveSoundgarden - Ultra Mega OKSpacemen 3 - A Perfect PrescriptionSpacemen 3 - Playing With FireSpacemen 3 - Sound of ConfusionSquirrel Bait - Skag HeavenSquirrel Bait - Squirrel BaitSuicidal Tendencies - InstitutionalizedSwans - Children Of GodSwans - CopSwans - FilthSwans - Public Castration Is A Good IdeaSwans - S/TThe Birthday Party - Prayers on FireThe Cult - ElectricThe Cynics - Blue Train Stationthe ex - 1936 spanish revolutionThe Fall - Hex Enduction HouirThe Fall - Perverted by LanguageThe Fall - This Nation's Saving GraceThe Fuzztones - Lysergic EmanationsThe Gun Club - Fire of LoveThe Gun Club - The Las Vegas StoryThe Jesus And Mary Chain - PsychocandyThe Lords of the New Church - The Method to Our MadnessThe Misfits - Walk Among UsThe Nomads - OutburstThe Pretenders - Pretenders IIThe Scientists - Blood Red RiverThe Sound -JeopardyThe Telescopes - TasteThe Wedding Present - BizarroThee Mighty Caesars - English Punk Rock ExplosionThin Lizzy - Thunder and LightningThin White Rope - MoonheadThis Heat - DeceitThree Johns - Atom Drum BopThrowing Muses - s/tThrowing Muses - The Real RamonaTrouble - Psalm 9TSOL - Change Today?Twisted Sister - Stay HungryUt - ConvictionVan Halen - 1984Venom - PossessedVenom - Welcome to HellVoid/Faith Split LPVoivod - Dimension HatrossVoivod - NothingfaceWarrant - Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking RichWASP - WASPWipers - Over The EdgeWipers - Youth Of AmericaWolfhounds - Bright & GuiltyX - Los AngelesX - Wild GiftY&T - Open FireYoung Gods - L'eau RougeZZ Top - Eliminator
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
shaping up pretty well tbh
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
The Del Fuegos - The Longest DayThe Del Lords - Johnny Comes Marching HomeScreaming Blue Messiahs - Gun-ShyGodfathers - Birth, School, Work, DeathHoodoo Gurus - Mars Needs GuitarsDog Faced Hermans - Every Day TimebombbIG fLAME - Rigour 1983-1986Gang of Four - Solid GoldAC Temple - Sourpuss
wasn't sure about Go4 but i decided solid gold rock hard enough and deserves to be included
― cock chirea, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
Mother Love Bone - Shine
― how's life, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link
I'll stan for V/A comps in a genre poll, especially things like Dope, Guns, etc... and Repo Man. And Heavy Metal or Decline of Western Civilation or whatever. This is a genre poll!
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link
X - More Fun In the New WorldZZ Top - El Loco
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
(really glad that first die kreuzen album got nominated)
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
I think the only Spacemen 3 I've heard might be from the first album. Did they go in an indie-pop direction afterwards?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
no
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
not really, but they get a lot more quiet & gentle within the same general framework (hypnotic psyche drones)
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
Anyway they got 3 albums in
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
not that it matters much, but their second album is called The Perfect Prescription
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
That PIL album really counts? Is there even any guitar on it?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno it
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
im relying on people pointing out these things. noone can know everything ever made!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
Lol, that PiL album is abrasive as hell...but yeah, I think it might be completely guitarless.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
does it ROCK!? as y'know industrial stuff can rock with no guitars. Abrasive is a good quality for the poll.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
It's totally abrasive. (I think there's some processed guitar noise in the background on some tracks.) And I nominated Naked City and Sonny Sharrock for a 'rock' poll so I won't be really hardcore about this. I just thought we were going for more of a heavy electric guitar aesthetic.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
I won't be really hardcore about this.
like about arguing this; obviously, it's not up to me.
(It doesn't rock in any sense in which I would use the term.)
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
BtwSonny Sharrock - Seize the Rainbow
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
the flowers of romance rocks based on drums only... banging the door is f'kn heavy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMbAgiTN2gM
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
that suicidal tendencies album is s/t, it's not called institutionalized
Dead Kennedys - Plastic Surgery DisastersDicks - Kill from the HeartDicks - These PeopleFear - The RecordMinutemen - The Punch LineMinutemen - What Makes a Man Start Fires?Saccharine Trust - Pagan IconsSS Decontrol - The Kids Will Have Their Say
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
man I forgot how good these people by the dicks is
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
duh, 2nd time i've subbed a track for an album title
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
Guys, things can definitely rock without guitars. However, I'm honestly not sure if AG is gonna let me have this next nomination...
Art Bears - The World As It Is Today
If not there are definitely a couple of tracks that can go on the singles poll.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
i often think that heaviness and rockingness are opposing forces held in complementary tension. like the extreme of rocking = thin, fast, syncopated, aggressive but relatively light-bodied shit like chuck berry and jerry lee lewis. not at all heavy. and the extreme of heaviness is crawling brutal sludge like early swans or boris, shit that has less sense of how to rock than "candle in the wind".
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
It doesnt have to be heavy per se. this is not an exclusively metal poll. heavy noisy abrasive are all good descriptions. Intense rock is good. Though noone else might get what i mean (unless they look a t my noms)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
most people seem to get it with their nominations so far though
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
i have no idea if art bears should count. Can anyone help me out here?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
It's cool that we're doing the 80s. The 80s had rock, but I don't think of it as a particularly ROCK decade. Even a lot of the glam metal I'll eventually get around to nominating is really just pop music with power chords.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
I bet you thought I wouldnt allow it!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
Naw, I knew the time would come eventually.
The thing about the 80s is (even though there's a definite rock underground) the whole decade seems coated in affected and stagey sheen with very little "real" peeking through. I realize that's painting with a broad brush, but it's my overwhelming impression of the music made in those years. Not that that's a bad thing...I love a ton of 80s music. In fact, I probably love more music from the 80s than any other decade (except for maybe the 60s).
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
i think that definitely feels true in relation to the 90s, when being "real" in an unaffected sense became a big priority in american pop culture. but i'm not sure that it really means much.
the disguise-wearing of 80s pop and rock (whether it be cartoonish mainstream stars like motley crue and cindy lauper, or equally exaggerated underground artists like the butthole surfers and jim foetus) allowed an authenticity of emotional and imaginative expression that the mask of ordinary, quotidian realness forbids.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
It doesnt have to be heavy per se. this is not an exclusively metal poll. heavy noisy abrasive are all good descriptions. Intense rock is good. Though noone else might get what i mean (unless they look at my noms)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, August 1, 2012 11:41 AM (1 hour ago)
oh yeah, i know. i wasn't trying to police your poll, just thinking out loud about rock vs heavy.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
lol Art Bears! They definitely rock. Allow it.
I mean this is pretty much mental metal without guitars:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHFwdvx2Dq4
― Moka, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
I don't really understand this poll but...
Bailter Space – TankerThe Gordons - The GordonsKilling Joke - Night TimeThat Petrol Emotion - Manic Pop ThrillBolt Thrower - In Battle There Is No Law
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
Stiff Little Fingers - Nobody's Heroes
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
can someone please link me to this indie poll that a few people have mentioned?
Need to find out when we can do the voting and results. I suppose a longer voting period may be no bad thing.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 21:43 (twelve years ago) link
the indie pop/college rock poll will almost certainly need to be done next year though , when i had the idea for the 2 polls i didnt realise so many polls were in the queue. but im sure timellison can wait.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
I think people talked about the prospect of a college rock poll, but it's yet to be organized.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
what about the 80s indie songs poll?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
AC Temple - SourpussAC/DC - Back in BlackAgent Orange - Living in DarknessAR kane - 69Art Bears - The World As It Is TodayAvengers - AvengersBad Brains - Bad BrainsBad Brains - I Against IBad Brains - s/tBailter Space – TankerBand of Susans - Love AgendaBastro - Diablo GuapoBathory - Under The Sign Of The Black MarkBauhaus - In The Flat FieldBauhaus - The Sky'S Gone OutBeat Happening – Beat HappeningBig Black - AtomizerBig Black - Songs About FuckingbIG fLAME - Rigour 1983-1986Billy Idol - Rebel YellBirthday Party - JunkyardBitch Magnet - UmberBlack Flag - DamagedBlack Flag - In My HeadBlack Flag - Jealous AgainBlack Flag - My WarBlack Flag - Slip It InBlack Sabbath - Mob RulesBlind Idiot God - UndertowBlue Oyster Cult - Cultosaurus ErectusBolt Thrower - In Battle There Is No LawBon Jovi - Slippery When WetBoredoms - Soul DischargeButthole Surfers - A Brown Reason To LiveButthole Surfers - Locust Abortion TechnicianButthole Surfers - Psychic... Powerless... Another Man'S SacButthole Surfers - Rembrandt PussyhorseCandlemass - Epicus Doomicus MetallicusCandlemass -NightfallCapt Beefheart - Doc at the Radar StationCapt Beefheart - Ice Cream for CrowCarcass - Symphonies of SicknessCelibate Rifles - The Turgid Miasma of ExistenceCeltic Frost - Into the PandemoniumCeltic Frost - Morbid TalesCeltic Frost - To Mega TherionCheap Trick - One On OneChristian Death - Only Theatre of PainChrome - Blood on the MoonChrome - Red ExposureChrome - Third From the SunCop Shoot Cop - Headkick FacsimileCorrosion of Conformity - AnimosityCosmic Psychos - Go the Hackcows - daddy has a tailCramps - Psychedelic JungleCramps - Smell Of FemaleCramps - Songs The Lord Taught Uscrass - christ - the albumCro-Mags - Best WishesCryptic Slaughter - Money TalksD.R.I. - Dealing With ItDead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotten VegetablesDead Kennedys - Plastic Surgery DisastersDead Milkmen - BeelzebubbaDeath - Scream Bloody GoreDef Leppard - HysteriaDef Leppard - On Through the NightDef Leppard - PyromaniaDescendents - Milo Goes To CollegeDicks - Kill from the HeartDicks - These PeopleDidjits - Hey JudesterDie Kreuzen - S/TDinosaur - S/TDinosaur Jr - BugDinosaur Jr - You're Living All Over MeDio - Holy DiverDio - Last In LineDischarge - Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say NothingDog Faced Hermans - Every Day TimebombDog Faced Hermans - Humans FlyDream Syndicate - The Days of Wine and RosesDrunks with Guns - Drunks with GunsEinsturzende Neubauten - Drawings Of OtEinsturzende Neubauten - Fuenf Auf Der Nach Oben Offenen RichterskalaEinsturzende Neubauten - Halber MenschEinsturzende Neubauten – Haus der LügeEinsturzende Neubauten - KollapsElectro Hippies - The Only Good Punk... Is A Dead OneEmbrace - EmbraceEnglish Dogs - Forward Into BattleExciter - Long Live the LoudExodus - Fabulous DisasterExtreme Noise Terror - A Holocaust in Your HeadF/I - Space MantraFaith No More - Introduce YourselfFaith No More - The Real ThingFear - The RecordFire Party - s/tfIREHOSE - Ragin', Full OnFlesheaters - A Minute To Pray A Second To DieFlipper - Generic FlipperFugazi - FugaziFugazi - Margin WalkerFushitsusha - Live IGame Theory - Big Shot ChroniclesGang of Four - Solid GoldGeorge Thorogood & The Destroyers - Bad to the BoneGlenn Branca - The AscensionGodfathers - Birth, School, Work, DeathGodflesh - StreetcleanerGrong Grong - S/TGuns N' Roses - Appetite For DestructionGuns N' Roses - Appetite for DestructionHalo of Flies - GarbageburnHalo Of Flies - Singles Going NowhereHead Of David - DustbowlHead Of David - Head Of DavidHelios Creed - Superior Catholic FingerHelios Creed - The Last LaughHoodoo Gurus - Mars Needs GuitarsHusker Du - Flip Your WigHusker Du - Metal CircusHusker Du - New day RisingHusker Du - Zen ArcadeIron Maiden - KillersIron Maiden - Number Of The BeastIron Maiden - Piece of MindIron Maiden - PowerslaveJane's Addiction - Nothing's ShockingJesus And Mary Chain - DarklandsJoan Jett - Bad reputationJudas Priest - British SteelJudas Priest - Defenders of the FaithJudas Priest - Screaming For VengeanceKilldozer - Intellectuals Are The Shoeshine Boys Of The Ruling EliteKilldozer - Snake BoyKilling Joke - Killing JokeKilling Joke - Night TimeKilslug - Answer The CallKing Crimson - DisciplineKing Diamond - AbigailKix - s/tLast Exit - KölnLazy Cowgirls - Tapping the SourceLemonheads - Hate Your FriendsLive Skull - Bringing Home The BaitLive Skull - Cloud OneLive Skull - DustedLive Skull - DustedLive Skull - S/TLiving Colour - VividLoop - Black SunLoop - The World in Your EyesLoop: - Fade Out Loverboy - Get LuckyLubricated Goat - Paddock Of LoveLyres - Lyres LyresManowar - Fighting The WorldManowar - Sign of the HammerMasters Of Reality- Masters Of RealityMeat Puppets - HuevosMeat Puppets - MonsterMeat Puppets- IIMegadeth - Killing Is My Business... and Business Is Good!Megadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buying?Megadeth - So Far, So Good... So WhatMelvins - Gluey Porch TreatmentsMelvins - OzmaMercyful Fate - MelissaMetallica - ...And Justice For AllMetallica - Kill 'Em AllMetallica - Master of PuppetsMetallica - Ride The LightningMinistry - Land of Rape and HoneyMinistry - The Land of Rape and HoneyMinor Threat - Minor ThreatMinor Threat - out of stepMinutemen – Double Nickels on the DimeMinutemen - The Punch LineMinutemen - What Makes a Man Start Fires?Misfits - BewareMisfits - Earth AdMisfits - Legacy Of BrutalityMission of Burma - Signals, Calls, and MarchesMission of Burma - Vs.Monster Magnet - Forget About Life I'M High On DopeMother Love Bone - ShineMotley Crue - Shout At The DevilMotley Crue - Too Fast For LoveMotorhead - Ace of SpadesMotorhead - OrgasmatronMudhoney - Superfuzz BigmuffMX-80 Sound - Out Of The TunnelMy Bloody Valentine - Isn't AnythingNaked City - Naked CityNaked Raygun - Throb ThrobNapalm Death - From Enslavement to ObliterationNapalm Death - From Enslavement To ObliterationNapalm Death - ScumNeil Young & Crazy Horse - Re*Ac*TorNick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Firstborn Is DeadNick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Your Funeral, My TrialNirvana - BleachNo Trend – When Death Won'T Solve Your ProblemNoMeansNo - WrongObituary - Slowly We RotPagans - Buried Alivepil - flowers of romancePixies - Come On PilgrimPixies - DoolittlePixies - Surfer Rosaplugz - better luckPoison - Open Up And Say...Ahhh!Poison Idea - Kings of PunkPop Group - For How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass MurderPussy Galore - Dial 'M' for MotherfuckerPussy Galore - Sugarshit SharpQueensryche - Operation: MindcrimeRamones - End of the CenturyRapeman - Two Nuns and a Pack MuleRaw Power - Screams From the GutterRedd Kross - NeuroticaRedd Kross -Third EyeReplacements - Let It BeReplacements - Sorry Ma, Forgot To Take Out The TrashRites Of Spring - End on Endrites of spring - s/tRoyal Trux - Royal TruxRush - Moving PicturesSaccharine Trust - Pagan IconsSaint Vitus - Born Too LateSaint Vitus - VScientists - This Heart Doesn'T Run On Blood, This Heart Doesn'T Run On LoveScientists - Weird LoveScorpions - Love At First StingScraping Foetus Off The Wheel - HoleScraping Foetus Off The Wheel – NailScratch Acid - s/t & Just Keep EatingScreaming Blue Messiahs - Gun-ShyScreaming Trees - Buzz FactoryScreaming Trees - Even If & Especially WhenSisters of Mercy - Floodland Skid Row - Slave to the GrindSkullflower - Form DestroyerSlayer - Reign in BloodSlint - TweezSlovenly - We Shoot For the MoonSonic Youth - Confusion Is SexSonic Youth - EvolSonic Youth - SisterSonny Sharrock - GuitarSonny Sharrock - Seize the RainbowSoundgarden - Louder Than LoveSoundgarden - Ultra Mega OKSpacemen 3 - Playing With FireSpacemen 3 - Sound of ConfusionSpacemen 3 - The Perfect PrescriptionSquirrel Bait - Skag HeavenSquirrel Bait - Squirrel BaitSS Decontrol - The Kids Will Have Their SayStiff Little Fingers - Nobody's HeroesSuicidal Tendencies - InstitutionalizedSwans - Children Of GodSwans - CopSwans - FilthSwans - Public Castration Is A Good IdeaSwans - S/TThat Petrol Emotion - Manic Pop ThrillThe Birthday Party - Prayers on FireThe Cult - ElectricThe Cynics - Blue Train StationThe Del Fuegos - The Longest DayThe Del Lords - Johnny Comes Marching Homethe ex - 1936 spanish revolutionThe Fall - Hex Enduction HouirThe Fall - Perverted by LanguageThe Fall - This Nation's Saving GraceThe Fuzztones - Lysergic EmanationsThe Gordons - The GordonsThe Gun Club - Fire of LoveThe Gun Club - The Las Vegas StoryThe Jesus And Mary Chain - PsychocandyThe Lords of the New Church - The Method to Our MadnessThe Misfits - Walk Among UsThe Nomads - OutburstThe Pretenders - Pretenders IIThe Scientists - Blood Red RiverThe Sound -JeopardyThe Telescopes - TasteThe Wedding Present - BizarroThee Mighty Caesars - English Punk Rock ExplosionThin Lizzy - Thunder and LightningThin White Rope - MoonheadThis Heat - DeceitThree Johns - Atom Drum BopThrowing Muses - s/tThrowing Muses - The Real RamonaTrouble - Psalm 9TSOL - Change Today?Twisted Sister - Stay HungryUt - ConvictionVan Halen - 1984Venom - PossessedVenom - Welcome to HellVoid/Faith Split LPVoivod - Dimension HatrossVoivod - NothingfaceWarrant - Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking RichWASP - WASPWipers - Over The EdgeWipers - Youth Of AmericaWolfhounds - Bright & GuiltyX - Los AngelesX - More Fun In the New WorldX - Wild GiftY&T - Open FireYoung Gods - L'eau RougeZZ Top - El LocoZZ Top - Eliminator
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link
looks pretty solid so far... can't wait for the 200+ more noms that will get 1 vote (maybe).
― Ring brother, ring for me! (Viceroy), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 22:19 (twelve years ago) link
Savage Republic - Tragic FiguresSkids - The Absolute GameSlovenly - Thinking of EmpireSwell Maps - ...In Jane From Occupied EuropeUt - In Gut's House
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link
well, ffs...
The Jesus and Mary Chain - Psychocandy
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago) link
ilx is apparently not big on east coast hardcore
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
what about the 80s indie songs poll?If this is a thing that is happening, I've not been made aware.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 22:46 (twelve years ago) link
I don't really understand this poll
I thought I did and am less sure now but I still like most of the music that is eligible.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 22:50 (twelve years ago) link
Volcano Suns - All Night Lotus PartySquirrel Bait - Skag HeavenCircle Jerks - Golden Shower of HitsRed Kross - Red Kross EP (aka "Annette's Got the His")
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
^ oops, skag heaven already nommed
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link
Crass - Penis EnvyCrass - Yes Sir I Will
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
Then nominate it. I thought hardcore might dominate the poll but honestly got no idea what will. But thats fun innit?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:18 (twelve years ago) link
lol, i'm not big on it either. just sort of a funny omission. figure someone here has to know and love the stuff.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
lol contenderizer, you're like the UN :)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link
I'm sure it will be. Ive not even properly researched stuff i want to nominate, just adding stuff that pops into my head.
nakh gave me a good linkhttp://www.scaruffi.com/ratings/80.html
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link
I nominated SS decontrol what more do you want
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
it will be handy for an indiepop/college rock poll tooxp
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
Brooce is on that list fyi :D
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:28 (twelve years ago) link
yes i know. hes also in the big 80s poll results ilm did. but not in this poll!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:29 (twelve years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:30 (twelve years ago) link
Paul Chain - Violet Art Of ImprovisationPaul Chain Violet Theatre - Detaching From Satan EP
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:35 (twelve years ago) link
Brooce ;_;
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:36 (twelve years ago) link
Bad Brains - S/TCro-Mags - The Age of QuarrelD.R.I. - Crossover
― Ring brother, ring for me! (Viceroy), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:39 (twelve years ago) link
The Meatmen - We're The Meatmen...and You Suck!!
― Ring brother, ring for me! (Viceroy), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
Naked Raygun - JettisonSoul Asylum - Hang Time
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
Wonder where Sean is with the thrash and the hair metal
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago) link
Sore Throat - Death to Capitalist HardcoreTerrorizer - World Downfall
― Ring brother, ring for me! (Viceroy), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
i expect lots of thrash,grind and death metal to appear in the list shortly.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 23:56 (twelve years ago) link
but in the meantime...
Girl Trouble - Hit It or Quit ItThe Fluid - Clear Black PaperDwarves - Horror Stories
― contenderizer, Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:38 (twelve years ago) link
Dwarves - Tooling for a Warm Teabag
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Thursday, 2 August 2012 01:45 (twelve years ago) link
give a bit more time I have some videotapes to return...
― Ring brother, ring for me! (Viceroy), Thursday, 2 August 2012 02:13 (twelve years ago) link
The Three O'Clock - Arrive Without Travelling
― timellison, Thursday, 2 August 2012 02:57 (twelve years ago) link
Are the Jam eligible or ineligible because of the Rickenbacker?
Never got an answer on the Feelies.
― timellison, Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:03 (twelve years ago) link
tim you are more butthurt than a tory mp in a dungeon in soho
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:03 (twelve years ago) link
any no to the feelies and no to 80s the jam
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:04 (twelve years ago) link
Cheers.
― timellison, Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:07 (twelve years ago) link
Three O'Clock were pretty rocking, though. Drummer sounded like he was playing in the Sweet or something and pretty punchy guitar on stuff like "Her Head's Revolving."
― timellison, Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:08 (twelve years ago) link
Always meant to listen to them so will get back to you on them.ps its nothing personal knocking back album noms.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:11 (twelve years ago) link
And all of that stuff will be eligible for a follow up indiepop/college rock poll
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:12 (twelve years ago) link
It's a subject I'm interested in, anyway. I just wonder if there are inconsistencies - I mean why no Jam yes Lyres?
― timellison, Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:21 (twelve years ago) link
i nominated lyres. don't mess.
― contenderizer, Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:22 (twelve years ago) link
plus they garage. is rocks by definition.
― contenderizer, Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:23 (twelve years ago) link
Or like I wonder if Sire-era Flamin Groovies would have been eligible.
― timellison, Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:24 (twelve years ago) link
Anthrax - Among The LivingBauhaus - Burning From The InsideBauhaus - In the Flat FieldBauhaus - MaskBauhaus - The Sky's Gone OutBlack Sabbath - Heaven And HellDeath - LeprosyDepeche Mode - Black CelebrationDepeche Mode - Music for the MassesExodus - Bonded By BloodKreator - Pleasure To KillMinistry - The Land Of Rape And HoneyMinistry - The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To TasteMorbid Angel - Altars Of MadnessN.W.A. - Straight Outta ComptonNine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate MachinePrimus - Suck On ThisRepulsion - HorrifiedS.O.D. - Speak English Or DieSepultura - Beneath the RemainsSkinny Puppy - Cleanse Fold And ManipulateSkinny Puppy - Mind: The Perpetual IntercourseSkinny Puppy - VIVIsectVISlayer - Hell AwaitsSlayer - South Of HeavenTestament - The LegacyTestament - The New OrderThe Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
FYI: Skid Row - Slave To The Grind was 1991
― Raoul Duke (ku4u1u), Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:45 (twelve years ago) link
dammit
plus i already tried with the beastie boys. no go, apparently. assume the same will apply to NWA.
― contenderizer, Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:55 (twelve years ago) link
though the logic by which an "albums that rock" poll includes the likes of foetus and (perhaps) skinny puppy while excluding the beastie boys and run-DMC will forever be obscure to me....
― contenderizer, Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:57 (twelve years ago) link
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Freaky StyleyFishbone - Truth and Soul
― contenderizer, Thursday, 2 August 2012 03:59 (twelve years ago) link
So how does this work, are we just suggesting albums for a poll that will come at a later date?
― Raoul Duke (ku4u1u), Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:08 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I thought I got it until Flowers of Romance was OK.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 2 August 2012 04:14 (twelve years ago) link
yeah rocky a poll is forthcoming just need to arrange when we can actually do the results due to another poll that's out there. Nominations usually last 2 weeks then we vote,so the voting will last until we can do the results. But the voting period is normally 2 weeks, but mightbe longer this time. Will need to wait and see.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 August 2012 12:46 (twelve years ago) link
Did we have a yes or no on live albums?
― emil.y, Thursday, 2 August 2012 12:52 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not sure. i guess why not
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 August 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
I voted for Y&T's Open Fire which is a live album
though if it got bounced I doubt it'd be for that reason alone, lol
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link
Can a live album not rock? Can a various artists comp not rock? SO MANY RULES.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
SO MANY TROLLS
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
I'm honestly not trolling. Trolls don't have any interest in the topic they troll. I'm interested in this. I just wonder what the justification is for disqualifying perfectly reasonable things (like v/a comps, soundtracks) on what amounts to a personal preference. Rock's not about rules.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
(Also, Beastie Boys, Run-DMC and Public Enemy are all three squarely positioned in the rock canon, but I won't go there with you over that.)
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
(I mean, if The Boss is disqualified, there's no way to convince you those three acts belong.)
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
you do it every poll i run. its part of the poll tradition now. Along with you saying we fix the results..
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
Stop, Kerr. I'm not trolling. And I've apologized for that accusation now a hundred times, and if you bring it up again it's going to start making YOU look bad.
My point is this...being more inclusive with nominations rather than exclusive makes these totally meaningless exercises more fun and less contentious. It's not like we're engaging in geoglobal politics here. It's a poll on a music forum.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
plus that's kerry on "no sleep" and "fight for your right"
KERRY
― contenderizer, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
^ trolling
I dunno, personally it's kinda fun to try to participate in a poll with pretty rigid rules. I mean my tastes are almost embarrassingly mainstream compared to the rest of you fuckers so if I can get a kick out of this, I think all you indie weirdos can too :)
Open your hearts, submit to the fascist poll
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
my rule of thumb so far has been if you can dance to it chances are Kerr will throw it to the lions
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
lol these rules aren't rigid. You get rigid rules in a decade poll or a year poll or a label or artist poll. In a genre poll, the rules should be as loosey goosey as possible, and they are here for the most part...except when they aren't, for whatever arbitrary reason.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
then forget I said anything
*shrug*
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
Sorry. Am I being an a-hole? I'll shut up.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
No it's cool. I should just pull my head in.
Just...there's plenty of polls in the sea, is all.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
anyway I would like to vote for
Lita Ford - Out For BloodGirlschool - Demolition
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
nominate you mean. Voting is later
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
Lol, apparently I don't know my iTunes library that well since I have a copy of Spacemen 3's Dreamweapon on there that I can even remember listening to.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
nominate, vote, whatever.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
Septic Death - Now That I Have the Attention, What Do I Do with It?Cryptic Slaughter - Money TalksStormtroopers of Death - Speak English or DieNeurosis - Pain of MindRepulsion - HorrifiedMacabre - Gloom
― Ring brother, ring for me! (Viceroy), Thursday, 2 August 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link
Oh I see Raoul covered a lot of those...
― Ring brother, ring for me! (Viceroy), Thursday, 2 August 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, and i nominated money talks a couple days back
― contenderizer, Thursday, 2 August 2012 22:44 (twelve years ago) link
The Gories - House Rockin'
― contenderizer, Thursday, 2 August 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
^ early politicking: VOTE FOR THE GORIES
― contenderizer, Thursday, 2 August 2012 22:52 (twelve years ago) link
it's the one that looks like this:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MCH2co0YwiI/Tl7QuJQj2fI/AAAAAAAACxc/EsC4sUE3zLY/s1600/GoriesHouse.jpg
hint
― contenderizer, Thursday, 2 August 2012 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
i think we get the hint
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 2 August 2012 23:56 (twelve years ago) link
this may be pushing it, but how about a comp. from ’93 comprised of tracks from the 80s? afaik, it’s actually the second RRR F/i comp, with a different track listing from the first, and the two complementary recs contain most if not all of F/i’s output.
if yes, then I’ll nom:
F/i - Out of Space & Out of Time
if no, then:
F/i - Why Not Now? Alan! and in any case I’ll also nom. these:
Band of Susans- Hope Against HopeBlind Idiot God - s/tCrash Course in Science - Signals from Pier 13Gore - Mean Man’s Dream
― Hellhouse, Friday, 3 August 2012 00:47 (twelve years ago) link
which should look like this:
F/i - Out of Space & Out of Time F/i - Why Not Now? Alan!Band of Susans- Hope Against HopeBlind Idiot God - s/tCrash Course in Science - Signals from Pier 13Gore - Mean Man’s Dream
― Hellhouse, Friday, 3 August 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago) link
Queensryche - Operation MindcrimeJourney - EscapeJourney - DepartureDark Angel - Darkness DescendsWhitesnake - Slip of the TongueWhitesnake - WhitesnakePantera - Power MetalSodom - Agent Orange
― Raoul Duke (ku4u1u), Friday, 3 August 2012 01:15 (twelve years ago) link
(I nominated Mindcrime early on.)
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 3 August 2012 01:43 (twelve years ago) link
Aerosmith - PumpKix - Blow My FuseMotley Crue - Dr. FeelgoodThe Pretenders - The PretendersThe Ramones - Pleasant Dreams
― some random MC rappin' mcdude (some dude), Friday, 3 August 2012 02:18 (twelve years ago) link
the pretenders? really? i dont think so
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 02:37 (twelve years ago) link
i was going to ask about their eligibility before nominating but then i saw you put the Pretenders II nomination into the master list no questions asked
― some random MC rappin' mcdude (some dude), Friday, 3 August 2012 02:40 (twelve years ago) link
well i hadnt noticed! I should check the master list to see what else sneaked by me.thanks!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 02:41 (twelve years ago) link
You've ever listened to that album, obvs.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 August 2012 02:53 (twelve years ago) link
That would probably be in my top 20.
xp *never
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 August 2012 02:54 (twelve years ago) link
I would say, AG, that in order to discount stuff, you have to at least listen to it. I have no inclination to ever listen to the Pretenders, but if I was the sole veto person, I would make it my job to hear stuff before ruling it out.
― emil.y, Friday, 3 August 2012 02:58 (twelve years ago) link
umm it was paul who said i never heard it not me
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 02:58 (twelve years ago) link
Well, okay. If you know it, then fine. But you got to pinky swear that you'll listen to everything you veto.
― emil.y, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:00 (twelve years ago) link
i mean it's his list and i respect that he's trying to police the boundaries of something he defines, so it's all good. like i said, wouldn't have even nommed Pretenders if they hadn't been nommed already.
― some random MC rappin' mcdude (some dude), Friday, 3 August 2012 03:00 (twelve years ago) link
If this doesn't count as rock, then what the hell does?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YA3hZEDPNI
I ain't mad anymore, but this whole process is going to result in short outbursts of complete genuine shock and disdain.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:03 (twelve years ago) link
name me a poll or list that doesn't!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:04 (twelve years ago) link
See, I think that would totally count as 'rocking'. Not 'good', but 'rocking', yeah. I guess nom it in the tracks poll? I think AG is a little more hands-off, if not totally so, in that one.
― emil.y, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:06 (twelve years ago) link
yeah
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:07 (twelve years ago) link
Can we keep the youtube embeds to a minimum though please in both threads. Just use the shortened links
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:09 (twelve years ago) link
Ones where the host of the poll doesn't just arbitrarily disqualify things on a whim. Usually there are facts to back it up (like year or decade of release or whether or not it was a single or who sang a song). Here, just like the metal poll, the jazz poll, etc it's left up to totally shady discretion.
But whatevs.
My polls generally don't have this kind of bickering, btw. Why? Because I don't set them up with bizarro subjective parameters.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:09 (twelve years ago) link
i would be fine w/ just nomming, say, "The Wait" or "Mystery Achievement" in the tracks poll to represent The Pretenders if not the album. i mean the tracks poll SHOULD be about highlighting hard rocking tracks whether or not the whole album or band's career rocks that hard.
― some random MC rappin' mcdude (some dude), Friday, 3 August 2012 03:10 (twelve years ago) link
No, it would be silly for you to argue with yourself or troll your own poll.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:11 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGZeuf-6cJ0
That album rocked harder than any UK 80's crap. :)
― svend, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:11 (twelve years ago) link
i mean the tracks poll SHOULD be about highlighting hard rocking tracks whether or not the whole album or band's career rocks that hard.
correct
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:12 (twelve years ago) link
johnny i kinda don't know why you're bothering, because even stepping into this thread you're pretty much agreeing to enter a house of someone else's design. we've done anything-goes '80s polls before, we know how all these records are regarded, AG is trying to do something different, either you're on board or you're not (i'm kind of on the fence but i figured i'll at least nom some stuff and attempt to vote).
― some random MC rappin' mcdude (some dude), Friday, 3 August 2012 03:12 (twelve years ago) link
Svend Pfunkboy, Viceroy & emil.y Productions presents : Nominations for an 80s Albums That Rock Poll(inc indie/Alt,punk,metal,heavy/glam etc) but with some exceptions..(ie no indiepop or U2 type)
Guys everyones entitled to nominate and vote. If its not eligible then i say so. I still hope people continue to nominate and vote and enjoy the results. This isn't meant to be an 80s poll or a Rolling Stone with a token rap pick poll.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:14 (twelve years ago) link
that last bit is copyrighted by Nakh btw
johnny i kinda don't know why you're bothering
I don't either. I guess AG just pushes my buttons with an enticing topic and then whittles it down in ways that make me, specifically, unhappy. Ours is a toxic relationship.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:16 (twelve years ago) link
Im sure there will be plenty you can vote for
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:16 (twelve years ago) link
plus paul is used to running polls so its hard for him when someone else does polls on topics he likes. Everyone has their own ways and ideas.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:17 (twelve years ago) link
Here, just like the metal poll, the jazz poll, etc it's left up to totally shady discretion.
See, I sort of agree with you that things are a bit too arbitrary here, but the metal poll and the jazz poll were two of my very favourite polls of all time (along with the '50s poll and a couple of others).
― emil.y, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:19 (twelve years ago) link
I guess we just view the nominations process for polling as oppositely as possible. I'm 110% for inclusion, even working around obstacles to get people's nominations in, and you're all about exclusion at your own discretion. I guess it's good to be the king.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:19 (twelve years ago) link
And also, as I say, seeing as AG roped me into this, I'm gonna try to keep the tracks poll a little less arbitrary than the albums one. So go there, be free and rocking!
― emil.y, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:20 (twelve years ago) link
thx :D
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:23 (twelve years ago) link
I'm 110% for inclusion, even working around obstacles to get people's nominations in
yeah limiting nominations per person is really inclusive!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:25 (twelve years ago) link
croup already nommed "precious" in the tracks poll anyway, like yesterday
― contenderizer, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:26 (twelve years ago) link
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, August 2, 2012 11:19 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
right. but i dunno, pretty much any album being knocked out of contention gets plenty of love in most other lists of '80s rock albums, so if AG wants to whittle them away to distinguish this version of the canon then w/e who cares.
― some random MC rappin' mcdude (some dude), Friday, 3 August 2012 03:28 (twelve years ago) link
Oh come on, AG, that's totally different. That's about limiting by numerical value, not by subjective value. I do have issues with limiting numerically, because I use noms as a reminder list, so I like to have everything there, but it is a completely non-comparable limit. And I'm on your side, here, I've agreed to do the poll with you, let's not get into bitching, come on.
xxpost
― emil.y, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:28 (twelve years ago) link
Also, some dude is pretty much right on in the 'who cares' stakes - this poll was started in the full knowledge that there would be controversial choices made, so you either have to go with it or not. I'm gonna disagree on some of the AG choices here, but because it's such a loose thing then, well, you got to take a chance...
― emil.y, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:30 (twelve years ago) link
emil.y- paul and i do this every poll. Dont spoil our fun!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:33 (twelve years ago) link
everything ,usually, turns out ok in the end.
You might think it's fun, AG. I don't. It riles me. Twists my guts. This is my fault, of course, because who in their right mind should care too much about stupid music forum polls? I need to go clean my kitchen or something else productive.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:37 (twelve years ago) link
i guess the question is this: is the nominations process more useful and appealing to ILM as a measure of what ILM thinks rocks, or of what AG thinks rocks?
i'd guess the former, but it's AG's show, so he makes the rules. tbh, i'm happy to have a poll that won't be completely dominated by ILM's rock-challenged usual suspects.
― contenderizer, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:39 (twelve years ago) link
It just needs to be a bit different to other polls. And it's better than banning every band who was in the 80s poll from it.
If theres way more death and thrash metal in the results than pop metal i expect mr fever to be angry ;)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:41 (twelve years ago) link
to be fair, a poll of music ILM thinks "rocks" with absolutely no editorial control would have some laughably un-rocking shit on it, so i'm ok with someone trying to steer the ship even if their judgment doesn't line up 100% with mine (and so far it lines up with mine way more than it does with Johnny's or some other people itt).
― some random MC rappin' mcdude (some dude), Friday, 3 August 2012 03:42 (twelve years ago) link
Updated List. Please check it before nominating.
AC/DC - Back in BlackAerosmith - PumpAgent Orange - Living in DarknessAnthrax - Among The LivingAR kane - 69Avengers - AvengersBad Brains - Bad BrainsBad Brains - I Against IBad Brains - s/tBand of Susans - Love AgendaBand of Susans- Hope Against HopeBastro - Diablo GuapoBathory - Under The Sign Of The Black MarkBauhaus - Burning From The InsideBauhaus - In The Flat FieldBauhaus - MaskBauhaus - The Sky'S Gone OutBeat Happening – Beat HappeningBig Black - AtomizerBig Black - Songs About FuckingBilly Idol - Rebel YellBirthday Party - JunkyardBitch Magnet - UmberBlack Flag - DamagedBlack Flag - In My HeadBlack Flag - Jealous AgainBlack Flag - My WarBlack Flag - Slip It InBlack Sabbath - Heaven And HellBlack Sabbath - Mob RulesBlind Idiot God - s/tBlind Idiot God - UndertowBlue Oyster Cult - Cultosaurus ErectusBon Jovi - Slippery When WetBoredoms - Soul DischargeButthole Surfers - A Brown Reason To LiveButthole Surfers - Locust Abortion TechnicianButthole Surfers - Psychic... Powerless... Another Man'S SacButthole Surfers - Rembrandt PussyhorseCandlemass - Epicus Doomicus MetallicusCandlemass -NightfallCapt Beefheart - Doc at the Radar StationCapt Beefheart - Ice Cream for CrowCarcass - Symphonies of SicknessCelibate Rifles - The Turgid Miasma of ExistenceCeltic Frost - Into the PandemoniumCeltic Frost - Morbid TalesCeltic Frost - To Mega TherionCheap Trick - One On OneChristian Death - Only Theatre of PainChrome - Blood on the MoonChrome - Red ExposureChrome - Third From the SunCop Shoot Cop - Headkick FacsimileCorrosion of Conformity - AnimosityCosmic Psychos - Go the Hackcows - daddy has a tailCramps - Psychedelic JungleCramps - Smell Of FemaleCramps - Songs The Lord Taught UsCrash Course in Science - Signals from Pier 13crass - christ - the albumCro-Mags - Best WishesCro-Mags - The Age of QuarrelCryptic Slaughter - Money TalksD.R.I. - CrossoverD.R.I. - Dealing With ItDark Angel - Darkness DescendsDead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotten VegetablesDead Milkmen - BeelzebubbaDeath - LeprosyDeath - Scream Bloody GoreDef Leppard - HysteriaDef Leppard - On Through the NightDef Leppard - PyromaniaDepeche Mode - Black CelebrationDepeche Mode - Music for the MassesDescendents - Milo Goes To CollegeDidjits - Hey JudesterDie Kreuzen - S/TDinosaur - S/TDinosaur Jr - BugDinosaur Jr - You're Living All Over MeDio - Holy DiverDio - Last In LineDischarge - Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say NothingDog Faced Hermans - Humans FlyDream Syndicate - The Days of Wine and RosesDrunks with Guns - Drunks with GunsDwarves - Horror StoriesDwarves - Tooling for a Warm TeabagEinsturzende Neubauten - Drawings Of OtEinsturzende Neubauten - Fuenf Auf Der Nach Oben Offenen RichterskalaEinsturzende Neubauten - Halber MenschEinsturzende Neubauten – Haus der LügeEinsturzende Neubauten - KollapsElectro Hippies - The Only Good Punk... Is A Dead OneEmbrace - EmbraceEnglish Dogs - Forward Into BattleExciter - Long Live the LoudExodus - Bonded By BloodExodus - Fabulous DisasterExtreme Noise Terror - A Holocaust in Your HeadF/i - Out of Space & Out of TimeF/I - Space MantraF/i - Why Not Now? Alan!Faith No More - Introduce YourselfFaith No More - The Real ThingFire Party - s/tfIREHOSE - Ragin', Full OnFishbone - Truth and SoulFlesheaters - A Minute To Pray A Second To DieFlipper - Generic FlipperFugazi - FugaziFugazi - Margin WalkerFushitsusha - Live IGame Theory - Big Shot ChroniclesGeorge Thorogood & The Destroyers - Bad to the BoneGirl Trouble - Hit It or Quit ItGirlschool - Demolition Glenn Branca - The AscensionGodflesh - StreetcleanerGore - Mean Man’s DreamGrong Grong - S/TGuns N' Roses - Appetite For DestructionHalo of Flies - GarbageburnHalo Of Flies - Singles Going NowhereHead Of David - DustbowlHead Of David - Head Of DavidHelios Creed - Superior Catholic FingerHelios Creed - The Last LaughHusker Du - Flip Your WigHusker Du - Metal CircusHusker Du - New day RisingHusker Du - Zen ArcadeIron Maiden - KillersIron Maiden - Number Of The BeastIron Maiden - Piece of MindIron Maiden - PowerslaveJane's Addiction - Nothing's ShockingJoan Jett - Bad reputationJourney - DepartureJourney - EscapeJudas Priest - British SteelJudas Priest - Defenders of the FaithJudas Priest - Screaming For VengeanceKilldozer - Intellectuals Are The Shoeshine Boys Of The Ruling EliteKilldozer - Snake BoyKilling Joke - Killing JokeKilslug - Answer The CallKing Crimson - DisciplineKing Diamond - AbigailKix - Blow My FuseKix - s/tKreator - Pleasure To KillLast Exit - KölnLazy Cowgirls - Tapping the SourceLemonheads - Hate Your FriendsLita Ford - Out For BloodLive Skull - Bringing Home The BaitLive Skull - Cloud OneLive Skull - DustedLive Skull - S/TLiving Colour - VividLoop - Black SunLoop - The World in Your EyesLoop: - Fade Out Loverboy - Get LuckyLubricated Goat - Paddock Of LoveLyres - Lyres LyresMacabre - GloomManowar - Fighting The WorldManowar - Sign of the HammerMasters Of Reality- Masters Of RealityMeat Puppets- IIMegadeth - Killing Is My Business... and Business Is Good!Megadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buying?Megadeth - So Far, So Good... So WhatMelvins - Gluey Porch TreatmentsMelvins - OzmaMercyful Fate - MelissaMetallica - ...And Justice For AllMetallica - Kill 'Em AllMetallica - Master of PuppetsMetallica - Ride The LightningMinistry - Land of Rape and HoneyMinistry - The Land of Rape and HoneyMinistry - The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To TasteMinor Threat - Minor ThreatMinor Threat - out of stepMinutemen – Double Nickels on the DimeMisfits - BewareMisfits - Earth AdMisfits - Legacy Of BrutalityMission of Burma - Signals, Calls, and MarchesMission of Burma - Vs.Monster Magnet - Forget About Life I'M High On DopeMorbid Angel - Altars Of MadnessMotley Crue - Dr. FeelgoodMotley Crue - Shout At The DevilMotley Crue - Too Fast For LoveMotorhead - Ace of SpadesMotorhead - OrgasmatronMudhoney - Superfuzz BigmuffMX-80 Sound - Out Of The TunnelMy Bloody Valentine - Isn't AnythingN.W.A. - Straight Outta ComptonNaked City - Naked CityNaked Raygun - JettisonNaked Raygun - Throb ThrobNapalm Death - From Enslavement To ObliterationNapalm Death - ScumNeil Young & Crazy Horse - Re*Ac*TorNeurosis - Pain of MindNick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Firstborn Is DeadNick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Your Funeral, My TrialNine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate MachineNirvana - BleachNo Trend – When Death Won'T Solve Your ProblemNoMeansNo - WrongObituary - Slowly We RotPagans - Buried AlivePantera - Power MetalPaul Chain - Violet Art Of ImprovisationPaul Chain Violet Theatre - Detaching From Satan EPpil - flowers of romancePixies - Come On PilgrimPixies - DoolittlePixies - Surfer Rosaplugz - better luckPoison - Open Up And Say...Ahhh!Poison Idea - Kings of PunkPop Group - For How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass MurderPrimus - Suck On ThisPussy Galore - Dial 'M' for MotherfuckerPussy Galore - Sugarshit SharpQueensryche - Operation: MindcrimeRamones - End of the CenturyRapeman - Two Nuns and a Pack MuleRaw Power - Screams From the GutterRed Hot Chili Peppers - Freaky StyleyRed Hot Chili Peppers - Mothers MilkRedd Kross - NeuroticaRedd Kross -Third EyeReplacements - Let It BeReplacements - Sorry Ma, Forgot To Take Out The TrashRepulsion - HorrifiedRites Of Spring - End on Endrites of spring - s/tRoyal Trux - Royal TruxRush - Moving PicturesS.O.D. - Speak English Or DieSaint Vitus - Born Too LateSaint Vitus - Saint VitusSaint Vitus - VScientists - This Heart Doesn'T Run On Blood, This Heart Doesn'T Run On LoveScientists - Weird LoveScorpions - Love At First StingScraping Foetus Off The Wheel - HoleScraping Foetus Off The Wheel – NailScratch Acid - s/t & Just Keep EatingScreaming Trees - Buzz FactoryScreaming Trees - Even If & Especially WhenSeptic Death - Now That I Have the Attention, What Do I Do with It?Sepultura - Beneath the RemainsSisters of Mercy - Floodland Skinny Puppy - Cleanse Fold And ManipulateSkinny Puppy - Mind: The Perpetual IntercourseSkinny Puppy - VIVIsectVISkullflower - Form DestroyerSlayer - Hell AwaitsSlayer - Reign in BloodSlayer - South Of HeavenSlint - TweezSlovenly - We Shoot For the MoonSodom - Agent OrangeSonic Youth - Confusion Is SexSonic Youth - EvolSonic Youth - SisterSonny Sharrock - GuitarSore Throat - Death to Capitalist HardcoreSoul Asylum - Hang TimeSoundgarden - Louder Than LoveSoundgarden - Ultra Mega OKSpacemen 3 - Playing With FireSpacemen 3 - Sound of ConfusionSpacemen 3 - The Perfect PrescriptionSquirrel Bait - Skag HeavenSquirrel Bait - Squirrel BaitStormtroopers of Death - Speak English or DieSuicidal Tendencies - InstitutionalizedSwans - Children Of GodSwans - CopSwans - FilthSwans - Public Castration Is A Good IdeaSwans - S/TTerrorizer - World DownfallTestament - The LegacyTestament - The New OrderThe Beastie Boys - Paul's BoutiqueThe Birthday Party - Prayers on FireThe Cult - ElectricThe Cynics - Blue Train Stationthe ex - 1936 spanish revolutionThe Fall - Hex Enduction HouirThe Fall - Perverted by LanguageThe Fall - This Nation's Saving GraceThe Fluid - Clear Black PaperThe Fuzztones - Lysergic EmanationsThe Gories - House Rockin'The Gun Club - Fire of LoveThe Gun Club - The Las Vegas StoryThe Jesus And Mary Chain - DarklandsThe Jesus And Mary Chain - PsychocandyThe Lords of the New Church - The Method to Our MadnessThe Meatmen - We're The Meatmen...and You Suck!!The Misfits - Walk Among UsThe Nomads - OutburstThe Ramones - Pleasant DreamsThe Scientists - Blood Red RiverThe Sound -JeopardyThe Telescopes - TasteThe Wedding Present - BizarroThee Mighty Caesars - English Punk Rock ExplosionThin Lizzy - Thunder and LightningThin White Rope - MoonheadThis Heat - DeceitThree Johns - Atom Drum BopThrowing Muses - s/tThrowing Muses - The Real RamonaTrouble - Psalm 9TSOL - Change Today?Twisted Sister - Stay HungryUt - ConvictionVan Halen - 1984Venom - PossessedVenom - Welcome to HellVoid/Faith Split LPVoivod - Dimension HatrossVoivod - NothingfaceWarrant - Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking RichWASP - WASPWhitesnake - Slip of the TongueWhitesnake - WhitesnakeWipers - Over The EdgeWipers - Youth Of AmericaWolfhounds - Bright & GuiltyX - Los AngelesX - Wild GiftY&T - Open FireYoung Gods - L'eau RougeZZ Top - Eliminator
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:45 (twelve years ago) link
Look, I'm not suggesting anyone consider Wham! or Til Tuesday a rockin' band. But I think with things like the first Pretenders album or Licensed to Ill or maybe a few other things, a strong case could be made that they should be included.
It's AG's show, though. His fifteen minutes in the ILM spotlight. The rollout will be full of his cheerleading and commentary (and slams), and again the whole process will be ME ME ME instead of MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:48 (twelve years ago) link
It's impossible to please everyone with polls. Whatever you do there's going to be complaints. Mistakes will be made, something wont be nominated that should have, someone who has a fave album but didnt bother nominating will bitch and moan about it's exclusion. The polls already been called lol rockist.
But it is what it is and will turn out just fine as long as people aren't dicks and a clusterfuck ensues.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:49 (twelve years ago) link
By ME ME ME do you mean YOU YOU YOU?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:50 (twelve years ago) link
clearly this is the one thread where we can be rockists without prejudice
― some random MC rappin' mcdude (some dude), Friday, 3 August 2012 03:51 (twelve years ago) link
Because every damn poll I've ever ran has been about highlighting music. My polls are never about just having the same old polls or just about what's in the top 20. The music in the lower reaches is equally as important as the music at the top. If some sad sacks are only interested in popular music the top 20 results then that's their loss.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:52 (twelve years ago) link
lol
Quick mini-poll:
Who can name all the write-in polls I've run? Now, who can name all the write-in polls AG has run?
I try to stay as anonymous as possible when it's time to roll out results.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:53 (twelve years ago) link
i bet everyone remembers you in the polls ive ran
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:55 (twelve years ago) link
jf i love you man but let it go
― some random MC rappin' mcdude (some dude), Friday, 3 August 2012 03:56 (twelve years ago) link
I'm trying.
[insert Godfather III reference]
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 August 2012 03:57 (twelve years ago) link
Leaving Trains - Fuck
― contenderizer, Friday, 3 August 2012 04:11 (twelve years ago) link
D.R.I. - Dealing With It
― contenderizer, Friday, 3 August 2012 04:17 (twelve years ago) link
aw shit, missed that it had been nommed, sorry (like the third time i've done that)
― contenderizer, Friday, 3 August 2012 04:18 (twelve years ago) link
I had nominated two albums by Crass that do not show up in the most recent master list:Penis Envy and Yes Sir I Will
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 3 August 2012 04:18 (twelve years ago) link
Hee hee I voted for Pretenders II...the album that was *cough* (literally) snuck past the "goalie"
JF if it really bothers you that much, don't participate. There's a lot of good polls coming down the pipeline.
Honestly I'm only participating to see if I can get any of my "popular shite" in the top 20
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 3 August 2012 04:18 (twelve years ago) link
i want him and everyone else toparticipate. please dont try and put people off!
I thought i added the crass.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 04:21 (twelve years ago) link
Are the first two Soundgarden albums any good? I love Badmotorfinger and Superunknown to pieces but somehow never checked out the earlier ones.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 3 August 2012 04:22 (twelve years ago) link
yes theyre great but quite different
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 04:23 (twelve years ago) link
(Only Christ: The Album shows up in the most recent list.)
xpost Different how?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 3 August 2012 04:23 (twelve years ago) link
Loud Love is fkn badass.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 3 August 2012 04:23 (twelve years ago) link
Screamier, Sabbathier, more metal-ish.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 3 August 2012 04:24 (twelve years ago) link
the banshee wail in Badmotorfinger x 1000
Ah, cool.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 3 August 2012 04:24 (twelve years ago) link
Til Tuesday are a totally rockin band btw
― mississippi joan hart (crüt), Friday, 3 August 2012 04:26 (twelve years ago) link
xpost PUT IT IN YOUR EARHOLES ASAP
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 3 August 2012 04:26 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think Sisters Of Mercy's Floodland rocks, apart from maybe "Lucretia My Reflection". First And Last And Always is way rockier. But I see Depeche Mode is included so maybe I don't know from rocking.
― LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 3 August 2012 04:27 (twelve years ago) link
But I see Depeche Mode is included so maybe I don't know from rocking.
HAHA! I <3 whomever slipped those two noms in.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 August 2012 04:29 (twelve years ago) link
AC/DC - Back in BlackAerosmith - PumpAgent Orange - Living in DarknessAnthrax - Among The LivingAR kane - 69Avengers - AvengersBad Brains - Bad BrainsBad Brains - I Against IBad Brains - s/tBand of Susans - Love AgendaBand of Susans- Hope Against HopeBastro - Diablo GuapoBathory - Under The Sign Of The Black MarkBauhaus - Burning From The InsideBauhaus - In The Flat FieldBauhaus - MaskBauhaus - The Sky'S Gone OutBeat Happening – Beat HappeningBig Black - AtomizerBig Black - Songs About FuckingBilly Idol - Rebel YellBirthday Party - JunkyardBitch Magnet - UmberBlack Flag - DamagedBlack Flag - In My HeadBlack Flag - Jealous AgainBlack Flag - My WarBlack Flag - Slip It InBlack Sabbath - Heaven And HellBlack Sabbath - Mob RulesBlind Idiot God - s/tBlind Idiot God - UndertowBlue Oyster Cult - Cultosaurus ErectusBon Jovi - Slippery When WetBoredoms - Soul DischargeButthole Surfers - A Brown Reason To LiveButthole Surfers - Locust Abortion TechnicianButthole Surfers - Psychic... Powerless... Another Man'S SacButthole Surfers - Rembrandt PussyhorseCandlemass - Epicus Doomicus MetallicusCandlemass -NightfallCapt Beefheart - Doc at the Radar StationCapt Beefheart - Ice Cream for CrowCarcass - Symphonies of SicknessCelibate Rifles - The Turgid Miasma of ExistenceCeltic Frost - Into the PandemoniumCeltic Frost - Morbid TalesCeltic Frost - To Mega TherionCheap Trick - One On OneChristian Death - Only Theatre of PainChrome - Blood on the MoonChrome - Red ExposureChrome - Third From the SunCop Shoot Cop - Headkick FacsimileCorrosion of Conformity - AnimosityCosmic Psychos - Go the Hackcows - daddy has a tailCramps - Psychedelic JungleCramps - Smell Of FemaleCramps - Songs The Lord Taught UsCrash Course in Science - Signals from Pier 13crass - christ - the albumCro-Mags - Best WishesCro-Mags - The Age of QuarrelCryptic Slaughter - Money TalksD.R.I. - CrossoverD.R.I. - Dealing With ItDark Angel - Darkness DescendsDead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotten VegetablesDead Milkmen - BeelzebubbaDeath - LeprosyDeath - Scream Bloody GoreDef Leppard - HysteriaDef Leppard - On Through the NightDef Leppard - PyromaniaDescendents - Milo Goes To CollegeDidjits - Hey JudesterDie Kreuzen - S/TDinosaur - S/TDinosaur Jr - BugDinosaur Jr - You're Living All Over MeDio - Holy DiverDio - Last In LineDischarge - Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say NothingDog Faced Hermans - Humans FlyDream Syndicate - The Days of Wine and RosesDrunks with Guns - Drunks with GunsDwarves - Horror StoriesDwarves - Tooling for a Warm TeabagEinsturzende Neubauten - Drawings Of OtEinsturzende Neubauten - Fuenf Auf Der Nach Oben Offenen RichterskalaEinsturzende Neubauten - Halber MenschEinsturzende Neubauten – Haus der LügeEinsturzende Neubauten - KollapsElectro Hippies - The Only Good Punk... Is A Dead OneEmbrace - EmbraceEnglish Dogs - Forward Into BattleExciter - Long Live the LoudExodus - Bonded By BloodExodus - Fabulous DisasterExtreme Noise Terror - A Holocaust in Your HeadF/i - Out of Space & Out of TimeF/I - Space MantraF/i - Why Not Now? Alan!Faith No More - Introduce YourselfFaith No More - The Real ThingFire Party - s/tfIREHOSE - Ragin', Full OnFishbone - Truth and SoulFlesheaters - A Minute To Pray A Second To DieFlipper - Generic FlipperFugazi - FugaziFugazi - Margin WalkerFushitsusha - Live IGame Theory - Big Shot ChroniclesGeorge Thorogood & The Destroyers - Bad to the BoneGirl Trouble - Hit It or Quit ItGirlschool - Demolition Glenn Branca - The AscensionGodflesh - StreetcleanerGore - Mean Man’s DreamGrong Grong - S/TGuns N' Roses - Appetite For DestructionHalo of Flies - GarbageburnHalo Of Flies - Singles Going NowhereHead Of David - DustbowlHead Of David - Head Of DavidHelios Creed - Superior Catholic FingerHelios Creed - The Last LaughHusker Du - Flip Your WigHusker Du - Metal CircusHusker Du - New day RisingHusker Du - Zen ArcadeIron Maiden - KillersIron Maiden - Number Of The BeastIron Maiden - Piece of MindIron Maiden - PowerslaveJane's Addiction - Nothing's ShockingJoan Jett - Bad reputationJourney - DepartureJourney - EscapeJudas Priest - British SteelJudas Priest - Defenders of the FaithJudas Priest - Screaming For VengeanceKilldozer - Intellectuals Are The Shoeshine Boys Of The Ruling EliteKilldozer - Snake BoyKilling Joke - Killing JokeKilslug - Answer The CallKing Crimson - DisciplineKing Diamond - AbigailKix - Blow My FuseKix - s/tKreator - Pleasure To KillLast Exit - KölnLazy Cowgirls - Tapping the SourceLemonheads - Hate Your FriendsLita Ford - Out For BloodLive Skull - Bringing Home The BaitLive Skull - Cloud OneLive Skull - DustedLive Skull - S/TLiving Colour - VividLoop - Black SunLoop - The World in Your EyesLoop: - Fade Out Loverboy - Get LuckyLubricated Goat - Paddock Of LoveLyres - Lyres LyresMacabre - GloomManowar - Fighting The WorldManowar - Sign of the HammerMasters Of Reality- Masters Of RealityMeat Puppets- IIMegadeth - Killing Is My Business... and Business Is Good!Megadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buying?Megadeth - So Far, So Good... So WhatMelvins - Gluey Porch TreatmentsMelvins - OzmaMercyful Fate - MelissaMetallica - ...And Justice For AllMetallica - Kill 'Em AllMetallica - Master of PuppetsMetallica - Ride The LightningMinistry - Land of Rape and HoneyMinistry - The Land of Rape and HoneyMinistry - The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To TasteMinor Threat - Minor ThreatMinor Threat - out of stepMinutemen – Double Nickels on the DimeMisfits - BewareMisfits - Earth AdMisfits - Legacy Of BrutalityMission of Burma - Signals, Calls, and MarchesMission of Burma - Vs.Monster Magnet - Forget About Life I'M High On DopeMorbid Angel - Altars Of MadnessMotley Crue - Dr. FeelgoodMotley Crue - Shout At The DevilMotley Crue - Too Fast For LoveMotorhead - Ace of SpadesMotorhead - OrgasmatronMudhoney - Superfuzz BigmuffMX-80 Sound - Out Of The TunnelMy Bloody Valentine - Isn't AnythingN.W.A. - Straight Outta ComptonNaked City - Naked CityNaked Raygun - JettisonNaked Raygun - Throb ThrobNapalm Death - From Enslavement To ObliterationNapalm Death - ScumNeil Young & Crazy Horse - Re*Ac*TorNeurosis - Pain of MindNick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Firstborn Is DeadNick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Your Funeral, My TrialNine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate MachineNirvana - BleachNo Trend – When Death Won'T Solve Your ProblemNoMeansNo - WrongObituary - Slowly We RotPagans - Buried AlivePantera - Power MetalPaul Chain - Violet Art Of ImprovisationPaul Chain Violet Theatre - Detaching From Satan EPpil - flowers of romancePixies - Come On PilgrimPixies - DoolittlePixies - Surfer Rosaplugz - better luckPoison - Open Up And Say...Ahhh!Poison Idea - Kings of PunkPop Group - For How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass MurderPrimus - Suck On ThisPussy Galore - Dial 'M' for MotherfuckerPussy Galore - Sugarshit SharpQueensryche - Operation: MindcrimeRamones - End of the CenturyRapeman - Two Nuns and a Pack MuleRaw Power - Screams From the GutterRed Hot Chili Peppers - Freaky StyleyRed Hot Chili Peppers - Mothers MilkRedd Kross - NeuroticaRedd Kross -Third EyeReplacements - Let It BeReplacements - Sorry Ma, Forgot To Take Out The TrashRepulsion - HorrifiedRites Of Spring - End on Endrites of spring - s/tRoyal Trux - Royal TruxRush - Moving PicturesS.O.D. - Speak English Or DieSaint Vitus - Born Too LateSaint Vitus - Saint VitusSaint Vitus - VScientists - This Heart Doesn'T Run On Blood, This Heart Doesn'T Run On LoveScientists - Weird LoveScorpions - Love At First StingScraping Foetus Off The Wheel - HoleScraping Foetus Off The Wheel – NailScratch Acid - s/t & Just Keep EatingScreaming Trees - Buzz FactoryScreaming Trees - Even If & Especially WhenSeptic Death - Now That I Have the Attention, What Do I Do with It?Sepultura - Beneath the RemainsSisters of Mercy - Floodland Skinny Puppy - Cleanse Fold And ManipulateSkinny Puppy - Mind: The Perpetual IntercourseSkinny Puppy - VIVIsectVISkullflower - Form DestroyerSlayer - Hell AwaitsSlayer - Reign in BloodSlayer - South Of HeavenSlint - TweezSlovenly - We Shoot For the MoonSodom - Agent OrangeSonic Youth - Confusion Is SexSonic Youth - EvolSonic Youth - SisterSonny Sharrock - GuitarSore Throat - Death to Capitalist HardcoreSoul Asylum - Hang TimeSoundgarden - Louder Than LoveSoundgarden - Ultra Mega OKSpacemen 3 - Playing With FireSpacemen 3 - Sound of ConfusionSpacemen 3 - The Perfect PrescriptionSquirrel Bait - Skag HeavenSquirrel Bait - Squirrel BaitStormtroopers of Death - Speak English or DieSuicidal Tendencies - InstitutionalizedSwans - Children Of GodSwans - CopSwans - FilthSwans - Public Castration Is A Good IdeaSwans - S/TTerrorizer - World DownfallTestament - The LegacyTestament - The New OrderThe Beastie Boys - Paul's BoutiqueThe Birthday Party - Prayers on FireThe Cult - ElectricThe Cynics - Blue Train Stationthe ex - 1936 spanish revolutionThe Fall - Hex Enduction HouirThe Fall - Perverted by LanguageThe Fall - This Nation's Saving GraceThe Fluid - Clear Black PaperThe Fuzztones - Lysergic EmanationsThe Gories - House Rockin'The Gun Club - Fire of LoveThe Gun Club - The Las Vegas StoryThe Jesus And Mary Chain - DarklandsThe Jesus And Mary Chain - PsychocandyThe Lords of the New Church - The Method to Our MadnessThe Meatmen - We're The Meatmen...and You Suck!!The Misfits - Walk Among UsThe Nomads - OutburstThe Ramones - Pleasant DreamsThe Scientists - Blood Red RiverThe Sound -JeopardyThe Telescopes - TasteThe Wedding Present - BizarroThee Mighty Caesars - English Punk Rock ExplosionThin Lizzy - Thunder and LightningThin White Rope - MoonheadThis Heat - DeceitThree Johns - Atom Drum BopThrowing Muses - s/tThrowing Muses - The Real RamonaTrouble - Psalm 9TSOL - Change Today?Twisted Sister - Stay HungryUt - ConvictionVan Halen - 1984Venom - PossessedVenom - Welcome to HellVoid/Faith Split LPVoivod - Dimension HatrossVoivod - NothingfaceWarrant - Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking RichWASP - WASPWhitesnake - Slip of the TongueWhitesnake - WhitesnakeWipers - Over The EdgeWipers - Youth Of AmericaWolfhounds - Bright & GuiltyX - Los AngelesX - Wild GiftY&T - Open FireYoung Gods - L'eau RougeZZ Top - Eliminator
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 04:31 (twelve years ago) link
fucks sake it was rocky
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 04:32 (twelve years ago) link
he's gonna hear a LOT of Danzig for doing that
The Cult - LoveBad Religion - SufferSisters Of Mercy - First And Last And Always
― LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 3 August 2012 04:33 (twelve years ago) link
The Jesus Lizard - PureKilling Joke - Night TimeKilling Joke - What's THIS For...!
― mississippi joan hart (crüt), Friday, 3 August 2012 04:37 (twelve years ago) link
while we're offering AG constructive criticism about how he runs his polls i would say posting the entire nominations list over and over every few hours is completely unnecessary and annoying
― some random MC rappin' mcdude (some dude), Friday, 3 August 2012 04:38 (twelve years ago) link
да
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 August 2012 04:39 (twelve years ago) link
it had mistakes in it so i fixed it up
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 04:41 (twelve years ago) link
oh hey, while yr at it, you might as well edit "The Scientists - Blood Red River" to just "Scientists - Blood Red River", so's to conform w/ the two EIII nominated
― contenderizer, Friday, 3 August 2012 04:46 (twelve years ago) link
(Crass albums still not listed.:P)
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 3 August 2012 04:47 (twelve years ago) link
xxp
lol, mistakes = depeche mode
― contenderizer, Friday, 3 August 2012 04:48 (twelve years ago) link
The Screaming Blue Messiahs - Totally ReligiousThe Screaming Blue Messiahs - GunshyLime Spiders - HeadcleanerSnatches of Pink - Dead MenDas Damen - TriskaidekaphobeDas Damen - MousetrapBryan Adams - Reckless
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 August 2012 04:51 (twelve years ago) link
nice try!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 04:51 (twelve years ago) link
<3 Lime Spiders!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 3 August 2012 04:59 (twelve years ago) link
me too! wait a minute, i'm needed in tracks...
― contenderizer, Friday, 3 August 2012 05:09 (twelve years ago) link
Adolescents - AdolescentsDeath Angel - The Ultra-ViolenceFear - The RecordIron Maiden - s/tMotorhead - Another Perfect DayPossessed - Seven ChurchesVan Halen - Women and Children FirstYoung Gods - s/tZero Boys - Vicious Circle
― Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 3 August 2012 09:45 (twelve years ago) link
fear already nommed
these are missing from earlier noms
Minutemen - The Punch LineMinutemen - What Makes a Man Start Fires?
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Friday, 3 August 2012 14:16 (twelve years ago) link
poll needs some union carbide productions
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Friday, 3 August 2012 14:40 (twelve years ago) link
Union Carbide Productions - In the Air Tonight
^ lol, no one gonna vote for it
― contenderizer, Friday, 3 August 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link
Psychedelic Furs - Talk Talk TalkMinistry - TwitchSkinny Puppy - Vivi Sect VINitzer Ebb - ShowtimeFoetus Interruptus - ThawRed Hot Chili Peppers - Uplift Mofo Party Plan
― keeping things contextual (DJP), Friday, 3 August 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
Iggy Pop - InstinctSteve Jones - Fire and GasolineDogs D'Amour - In the Dynamite Jet SaloonNew Model Army - No Rest for the WickedThe Primitives - Lazy 86-88Tin Machine - Tin MachineMassacre - Killing Time
― cock chirea, Friday, 3 August 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
Hanoi Rocks - Bangkok Shocks, Saigon Shakes, Hanoi Rocks
― cwkiii, Friday, 3 August 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
Raging Slab - Raging Slab
― cock chirea, Friday, 3 August 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
Saccharine Trust-Surviving You, Always
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 3 August 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link
The Jesus And Mary Chain - Automatic
Darklands should be excluded, this one rocks 1000% harder
― cock chirea, Friday, 3 August 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
co-sign
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 August 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
^ good call
― contenderizer, Friday, 3 August 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
and co-co-sign
i was gonna nom that
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
Live Skull - Don't Get Any on You
― Hellhouse, Friday, 3 August 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
AC/DC - Back in BlackAdolescents - AdolescentsAerosmith - PumpAgent Orange - Living in DarknessAnthrax - Among The LivingAR kane - 69Avengers - AvengersBad Brains - Bad BrainsBad Brains - I Against IBad Brains - s/tBad Religion - SufferBand of Susans - Love AgendaBand of Susans- Hope Against HopeBastro - Diablo GuapoBathory - Under The Sign Of The Black MarkBauhaus - Burning From The InsideBauhaus - In The Flat FieldBauhaus - MaskBauhaus - The Sky'S Gone OutBeat Happening – Beat HappeningBig Black - AtomizerBig Black - Songs About FuckingBilly Idol - Rebel YellBirthday Party - JunkyardBitch Magnet - UmberBlack Flag - DamagedBlack Flag - In My HeadBlack Flag - Jealous AgainBlack Flag - My WarBlack Flag - Slip It InBlack Sabbath - Heaven And HellBlack Sabbath - Mob RulesBlind Idiot God - s/tBlind Idiot God - UndertowBlue Oyster Cult - Cultosaurus ErectusBon Jovi - Slippery When WetBoredoms - Soul DischargeButthole Surfers - A Brown Reason To LiveButthole Surfers - Locust Abortion TechnicianButthole Surfers - Psychic... Powerless... Another Man'S SacButthole Surfers - Rembrandt PussyhorseCandlemass - Epicus Doomicus MetallicusCandlemass -NightfallCapt Beefheart - Doc at the Radar StationCapt Beefheart - Ice Cream for CrowCarcass - Symphonies of SicknessCelibate Rifles - The Turgid Miasma of ExistenceCeltic Frost - Into the PandemoniumCeltic Frost - Morbid TalesCeltic Frost - To Mega TherionCheap Trick - One On OneChristian Death - Only Theatre of PainChrome - Blood on the MoonChrome - Red ExposureChrome - Third From the SunCop Shoot Cop - Headkick FacsimileCorrosion of Conformity - AnimosityCosmic Psychos - Go the Hackcows - daddy has a tailCramps - Psychedelic JungleCramps - Smell Of FemaleCramps - Songs The Lord Taught UsCrash Course in Science - Signals from Pier 13crass - christ - the albumCrass - Penis EnvyCrass - Yes Sir I WillCro-Mags - Best WishesCro-Mags - The Age of QuarrelCryptic Slaughter - Money TalksD.R.I. - CrossoverD.R.I. - Dealing With ItDark Angel - Darkness DescendsDas Damen - MousetrapDas Damen - TriskaidekaphobeDead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotten VegetablesDead Milkmen - BeelzebubbaDeath - LeprosyDeath - Scream Bloody GoreDeath Angel - The Ultra-ViolenceDef Leppard - HysteriaDef Leppard - On Through the NightDef Leppard - PyromaniaDescendents - Milo Goes To CollegeDidjits - Hey JudesterDie Kreuzen - S/TDinosaur - S/TDinosaur Jr - BugDinosaur Jr - You're Living All Over MeDio - Holy DiverDio - Last In LineDischarge - Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say NothingDog Faced Hermans - Humans FlyDogs D'Amour - In the Dynamite Jet SaloonDream Syndicate - The Days of Wine and RosesDrunks with Guns - Drunks with GunsDwarves - Horror StoriesDwarves - Tooling for a Warm TeabagEinsturzende Neubauten - Drawings Of OtEinsturzende Neubauten - Fuenf Auf Der Nach Oben Offenen RichterskalaEinsturzende Neubauten - Halber MenschEinsturzende Neubauten – Haus der LügeEinsturzende Neubauten - KollapsElectro Hippies - The Only Good Punk... Is A Dead OneEmbrace - EmbraceEnglish Dogs - Forward Into BattleExciter - Long Live the LoudExodus - Bonded By BloodExodus - Fabulous DisasterExtreme Noise Terror - A Holocaust in Your HeadF/i - Out of Space & Out of TimeF/I - Space MantraF/i - Why Not Now? Alan!Faith No More - Introduce YourselfFaith No More - The Real ThingFear - The RecordFire Party - s/tfIREHOSE - Ragin', Full OnFishbone - Truth and SoulFlesheaters - A Minute To Pray A Second To DieFlipper - Generic FlipperFoetus Interruptus - ThawFugazi - FugaziFugazi - Margin WalkerFushitsusha - Live IGame Theory - Big Shot ChroniclesGeorge Thorogood & The Destroyers - Bad to the BoneGirl Trouble - Hit It or Quit ItGirlschool - Demolition Glenn Branca - The AscensionGodflesh - StreetcleanerGore - Mean Man’s DreamGrong Grong - S/TGuns N' Roses - Appetite For DestructionHalo of Flies - GarbageburnHalo Of Flies - Singles Going NowhereHanoi Rocks - Bangkok Shocks, Saigon Shakes, Hanoi Rocks Head Of David - DustbowlHead Of David - Head Of DavidHelios Creed - Superior Catholic FingerHelios Creed - The Last LaughHusker Du - Flip Your WigHusker Du - Metal CircusHusker Du - New day RisingHusker Du - Zen ArcadeIggy Pop - InstinctIron Maiden - KillersIron Maiden - Number Of The BeastIron Maiden - Piece of MindIron Maiden - PowerslaveIron Maiden - s/tJane's Addiction - Nothing's ShockingJoan Jett - Bad reputationJourney - DepartureJourney - EscapeJudas Priest - British SteelJudas Priest - Defenders of the FaithJudas Priest - Screaming For VengeanceKilldozer - Intellectuals Are The Shoeshine Boys Of The Ruling EliteKilldozer - Snake BoyKilling Joke - Killing JokeKilling Joke - Night TimeKilling Joke - What's THIS For...!Kilslug - Answer The CallKing Crimson - DisciplineKing Diamond - AbigailKix - Blow My FuseKix - s/tKreator - Pleasure To KillLast Exit - KölnLazy Cowgirls - Tapping the SourceLemonheads - Hate Your FriendsLime Spiders - HeadcleanerLita Ford - Out For BloodLive Skull - Bringing Home The BaitLive Skull - Cloud OneLive Skull - Don't Get Any on YouLive Skull - DustedLive Skull - S/TLiving Colour - VividLoop - Black SunLoop - The World in Your EyesLoop: - Fade Out Loverboy - Get LuckyLubricated Goat - Paddock Of LoveLyres - Lyres LyresMacabre - GloomManowar - Fighting The WorldManowar - Sign of the HammerMassacre - Killing TimeMasters Of Reality- Masters Of RealityMeat Puppets- IIMegadeth - Killing Is My Business... and Business Is Good!Megadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buying?Megadeth - So Far, So Good... So WhatMelvins - Gluey Porch TreatmentsMelvins - OzmaMercyful Fate - MelissaMetallica - ...And Justice For AllMetallica - Kill 'Em AllMetallica - Master of PuppetsMetallica - Ride The LightningMinistry - Land of Rape and HoneyMinistry - The Land of Rape and HoneyMinistry - The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To TasteMinistry - TwitchMinor Threat - Minor ThreatMinor Threat - out of stepMinutemen – Double Nickels on the DimeMinutemen - The Punch LineMinutemen - What Makes a Man Start Fires?Misfits - BewareMisfits - Earth AdMisfits - Legacy Of BrutalityMission of Burma - Signals, Calls, and MarchesMission of Burma - Vs.Monster Magnet - Forget About Life I'M High On DopeMorbid Angel - Altars Of MadnessMotley Crue - Dr. FeelgoodMotley Crue - Shout At The DevilMotley Crue - Too Fast For LoveMotorhead - Ace of SpadesMotorhead - Another Perfect DayMotorhead - OrgasmatronMudhoney - Superfuzz BigmuffMX-80 Sound - Out Of The TunnelMy Bloody Valentine - Isn't AnythingN.W.A. - Straight Outta ComptonNaked City - Naked CityNaked Raygun - JettisonNaked Raygun - Throb ThrobNapalm Death - From Enslavement To ObliterationNapalm Death - ScumNeil Young & Crazy Horse - Re*Ac*TorNeurosis - Pain of MindNew Model Army - No Rest for the WickedNick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Firstborn Is DeadNick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Your Funeral, My TrialNine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate MachineNirvana - BleachNitzer Ebb - ShowtimeNo Trend – When Death Won'T Solve Your ProblemNoMeansNo - WrongObituary - Slowly We RotPagans - Buried AlivePantera - Power MetalPaul Chain - Violet Art Of ImprovisationPaul Chain Violet Theatre - Detaching From Satan EPpil - flowers of romancePixies - Come On PilgrimPixies - DoolittlePixies - Surfer Rosaplugz - better luckPoison - Open Up And Say...Ahhh!Poison Idea - Kings of PunkPop Group - For How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass MurderPossessed - Seven ChurchesPrimus - Suck On ThisProng - Force FedPsychedelic Furs - Talk Talk TalkPussy Galore - Dial 'M' for MotherfuckerPussy Galore - Sugarshit SharpQueensryche - Operation: MindcrimeRaging Slab - Raging SlabRamones - End of the CenturyRapeman - Two Nuns and a Pack MuleRaw Power - Screams From the GutterRed Hot Chili Peppers - Freaky StyleyRed Hot Chili Peppers - Mothers MilkRed Hot Chili Peppers - Uplift Mofo Party PlanRedd Kross - NeuroticaRedd Kross -Third EyeReplacements - Let It BeReplacements - Sorry Ma, Forgot To Take Out The TrashRepulsion - HorrifiedRites Of Spring - End on Endrites of spring - s/tRoyal Trux - Royal TruxRush - Moving PicturesS.O.D. - Speak English Or DieSaccharine Trust-Surviving You, AlwaysSaint Vitus - Born Too LateSaint Vitus - Saint VitusSaint Vitus - VScientists - This Heart Doesn'T Run On Blood, This Heart Doesn'T Run On LoveScientists - Weird LoveScorpions - Love At First StingScraping Foetus Off The Wheel - HoleScraping Foetus Off The Wheel – NailScratch Acid - s/t & Just Keep EatingScreaming Trees - Buzz FactoryScreaming Trees - Even If & Especially WhenSeptic Death - Now That I Have the Attention, What Do I Do with It?Sepultura - Beneath the RemainsSisters Of Mercy - First And Last And AlwaysSisters of Mercy - Floodland Skinny Puppy - Cleanse Fold And ManipulateSkinny Puppy - Mind: The Perpetual IntercourseSkinny Puppy - Vivi Sect VISkinny Puppy - VIVIsectVISkullflower - Form DestroyerSlayer - Hell AwaitsSlayer - Reign in BloodSlayer - South Of HeavenSlint - TweezSlovenly - We Shoot For the MoonSnatches of Pink - Dead MenSodom - Agent OrangeSonic Youth - Confusion Is SexSonic Youth - EvolSonic Youth - SisterSonny Sharrock - GuitarSore Throat - Death to Capitalist HardcoreSoul Asylum - Hang TimeSoundgarden - Louder Than LoveSoundgarden - Ultra Mega OKSpacemen 3 - Playing With FireSpacemen 3 - Sound of ConfusionSpacemen 3 - The Perfect PrescriptionSquirrel Bait - Skag HeavenSquirrel Bait - Squirrel BaitSteve Jones - Fire and GasolineStormtroopers of Death - Speak English or DieSuicidal Tendencies - InstitutionalizedSwans - Children Of GodSwans - CopSwans - FilthSwans - Public Castration Is A Good IdeaSwans - S/TTerrorizer - World DownfallTestament - The LegacyTestament - The New OrderThe Beastie Boys - Paul's BoutiqueThe Birthday Party - Prayers on FireThe Cult - ElectricThe Cult - LoveThe Cynics - Blue Train Stationthe ex - 1936 spanish revolutionThe Fall - Hex Enduction HouirThe Fall - Perverted by LanguageThe Fall - This Nation's Saving GraceThe Fluid - Clear Black PaperThe Fuzztones - Lysergic EmanationsThe Gories - House Rockin'The Gun Club - Fire of LoveThe Gun Club - The Las Vegas StoryThe Jesus And Mary Chain - AutomaticThe Jesus And Mary Chain - DarklandsThe Jesus And Mary Chain - PsychocandyThe Jesus Lizard - PureThe Lords of the New Church - The Method to Our MadnessThe Meatmen - We're The Meatmen...and You Suck!!The Misfits - Walk Among UsThe Nomads - OutburstThe Primitives - Lazy 86-88The Ramones - Pleasant DreamsThe Scientists - Blood Red RiverThe Screaming Blue Messiahs - GunshyThe Screaming Blue Messiahs - Totally ReligiousThe Sound -JeopardyThe Telescopes - TasteThe Wedding Present - BizarroThee Mighty Caesars - English Punk Rock ExplosionThin Lizzy - Thunder and LightningThin White Rope - MoonheadThis Heat - DeceitThree Johns - Atom Drum BopThrowing Muses - s/tThrowing Muses - The Real RamonaTin Machine - Tin MachineTrouble - Psalm 9TSOL - Change Today?Twisted Sister - Stay HungryUnion Carbide Productions - In the Air TonightUt - ConvictionVan Halen - 1984Van Halen - Women and Children FirstVenom - PossessedVenom - Welcome to HellVoid/Faith Split LPVoivod - Dimension HatrossVoivod - NothingfaceWarrant - Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking RichWASP - WASPWhitesnake - Slip of the TongueWhitesnake - WhitesnakeWipers - Over The EdgeWipers - Youth Of AmericaWolfhounds - Bright & GuiltyX - Los AngelesX - Wild GiftY&T - Open FireYoung Gods - L'eau RougeYoung Gods - s/tZero Boys - Vicious CircleZZ Top - Eliminator
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 3 August 2012 22:39 (twelve years ago) link
Hey, what happened to Depeche Mode? :P Does that mean I can't nominate Love and Rockets, or is that punishable by Danzig?Speaking of Danzig, I don't see the S/T on the list. I'll take that as proof that evil Elvis doesn't 'rock'
Since NWA made the cut...
Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
― Raoul Duke (ku4u1u), Saturday, 4 August 2012 00:32 (twelve years ago) link
ok i need to check out every nom from now on. no nwa or pe, sorry guys.
Rocky thanks for nominating danzig. i'll make sure you hear plenty of it on soundrop
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 4 August 2012 00:40 (twelve years ago) link
Skid Row - Skid Row
― Raoul Duke (ku4u1u), Saturday, 4 August 2012 00:42 (twelve years ago) link
So what you're saying is, Compton's not in the house?Is gangsta rap banned? Or just P.E. / N.W.A.? I know it's not 'rock' music, but IMO it definitely 'rocks'
― Raoul Duke (ku4u1u), Saturday, 4 August 2012 00:53 (twelve years ago) link
its not included
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 4 August 2012 00:54 (twelve years ago) link
only scottish rap allowed
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 4 August 2012 02:04 (twelve years ago) link
Scratch Acid - s/t & Just Keep Eating
^^^ these need to be separated in the master list.
― mississippi joan hart (crüt), Saturday, 4 August 2012 02:22 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i nommed them together in a devious attempt to prevent vote splitting, but yeah
― contenderizer, Saturday, 4 August 2012 04:19 (twelve years ago) link
hah, noted
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 4 August 2012 12:54 (twelve years ago) link
Nick Cave + the Bad Seeds - From Her to Eternity
― Hellhouse, Saturday, 4 August 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link
Skinny Puppy's VIVIsectVI and Vivi Sect VI are the same album
― keeping things contextual (DJP), Saturday, 4 August 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
um duh yeah of course you have to check every nom, how else can the whole thing be shaped by what you believe should be included. can't autopilot this, dude.
― contender's game (some dude), Saturday, 4 August 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
― Hellhouse, Friday, August 3, 2012 4:24 PM (Yesterday)
left this out cause I wasn't sure if live albs were legal, thx for the alley oop
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Saturday, 4 August 2012 22:15 (twelve years ago) link
need a live skull albums poll to see which horse to back in this thing
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Saturday, 4 August 2012 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
xp yeah, my favorite live skull
― contenderizer, Saturday, 4 August 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
― keeping things contextual (DJP),
But which one is the right spelling?
― Royal Governor His Eminence and Imperial (Viceroy), Saturday, 4 August 2012 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Saturday, August 4, 2012 6:21 PM (5 hours ago)
they're an idiosyncratic band so I'm not sure if opinion would coalesce around a single record. it seems like most fans of the early stuff gravitate towards the live retrospective, don't get any on you. back in the day this was the best way to convert someone to live skull fandom, even folks who didn't like the early albums seemed to reevalute the band after hearing it.
some rep for dusted as this was the turning point towards a more, uh, human sound. then there are the hardcore positraction fans, who dig the full-on zedek vibe of the band's terminal stage.
my personal fave is cloud one, burned that one into my DNA back in high school, tho as mentioned above I'd direct the uninitiated towards don't get any on you.
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Sunday, 5 August 2012 04:00 (twelve years ago) link
for all your night time driving needs
http://www.youtu.be/WKBcghFkHPs
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Sunday, 5 August 2012 04:08 (twelve years ago) link
but you know that first live skull EP is pretty awesome too. one of my favorite openings ever. check out how the bass line inverts when the band comes in on the 4 instead of the 1, neat trick that still knocks me out 30 years later...
http://www.youtu.be/gR8YzP-dKbc
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Sunday, 5 August 2012 04:19 (twelve years ago) link
i think i need to check them out
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 5 August 2012 13:43 (twelve years ago) link
Redd Kross -Third Eye = wrong decade.
I'm just lurking here btw (and finding the arguments amusing, but staying out of it so I don't get mad), though I'm curious about what would happen if somebody nominated Prince, Michael Jackson, or Rick James albums. Or John Anderson and Jason & the Scorchers albums, for that matter.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 5 August 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link
though I'm curious about what would happen if somebody nominated Prince, Michael Jackson, or Rick James albums.
oh i think you know!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 5 August 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
def no JA either not heard jason and the scorchers but if they are cowpunk (ie lots of punk) then i see no problem.
But as i said earlier theres already 80s polls, rolling stone polls and this is definitely not a P&Jpoll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but chuck please nominate your fave albums that do fit criteria.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 5 August 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
It's a rock poll; those artists made rock albums. So no, I won't be nominating. But have fun!
― xhuxk, Sunday, 5 August 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
it's a specific kind of rock poll! Shame you wont join in but we will all have fun!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 5 August 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
Blame it all on my roots, but I nominated Bruceand ruined your "rocking" affair
― da croupier, Sunday, 5 August 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
Swans - Young God
― Hellhouse, Sunday, 5 August 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
I forgot needle doesnt exist anymore :(
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 5 August 2012 22:46 (twelve years ago) link
gutted all the stats for the metal polls are gone.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 5 August 2012 23:38 (twelve years ago) link
oh well we still have the main results on ilx threads
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 6 August 2012 00:02 (twelve years ago) link
DAF - Die Kleinen und die BosenRhys Chatham - Die DonnergotterVoivod - Killing Technology
― Hellhouse, Monday, 6 August 2012 00:44 (twelve years ago) link
Hellhouse have you posted on ilm under a different name before?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 6 August 2012 06:33 (twelve years ago) link
keep adding nominations as there will be up to a max of 50 votes. So make sure everything you want to vote for/choose from is there.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 6 August 2012 09:40 (twelve years ago) link
Husker Du - Candy Apple GreyWipers - Is This RealButthole Surfers - Hairway to Steven
The two Rites of Spring albums in the list (s/t and End on End) are the same thing.
― Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 6 August 2012 10:48 (twelve years ago) link
looks like VIVIsectVI
― keeping things contextual (DJP), Monday, 6 August 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
cheers gavin
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 6 August 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
Death in June - The Guilty Have No PrideDeath in June - Brown BookPsychic TV - Mouth of the NightPsychic TV - A Pagan DayManilla Road - Crystal LogicManilla Road - The DelugeMayhem - DeathcrushWitchfinder General - Death Penalty
― Royal Governor His Eminence and Imperial (Viceroy), Monday, 6 August 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
Diamond Head - Lightning to the Nations
― Royal Governor His Eminence and Imperial (Viceroy), Monday, 6 August 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
Yes - DramaYes - Big Generator
― Royal Governor His Eminence and Imperial (Viceroy), Monday, 6 August 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
Is David Bowie not rockin' enough for this poll or what? Cause he has, uh - quite a few albums from the 80s that "rock" pretty hard IMO... or is he out for reasons of obviousl poll domination? Or did people actually forget about him?
― Royal Governor His Eminence and Imperial (Viceroy), Monday, 6 August 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
oh yeah and this little classic gem that can't go unnommed:
Jon Wayne - Texas Funeral
― Royal Governor His Eminence and Imperial (Viceroy), Monday, 6 August 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
hes outxp
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 6 August 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
Tin Machine, however, is in.
― Diary of a Whiney Kid: Dog Days (some dude), Monday, 6 August 2012 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
yes
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 6 August 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
Anyone with spare time making a spotify playlist?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago) link
I could try starting one!
― Royal Governor His Eminence and Imperial (Viceroy), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 00:56 (twelve years ago) link
post the current list in just a minute I have a few more noms
Coroner - R.I.P.Coroner - Punishment for DecadenceCoroner - No More Color
― Royal Governor His Eminence and Imperial (Viceroy), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 00:58 (twelve years ago) link
do Psychic TV "rock"?
― mississippi joan hart (crüt), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 00:58 (twelve years ago) link
Does ar Kane rock
― windjammer voyage (blank), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 01:15 (twelve years ago) link
I mean, does 69 rock. Where are the drums
― windjammer voyage (blank), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 01:16 (twelve years ago) link
I mean, who thinks 69 by ar Kane is one of the rockinist albums ever
― windjammer voyage (blank), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 01:17 (twelve years ago) link
the person who nominated it presumably (never heard it)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
Well it is a super dope far out record anyway
― windjammer voyage (blank), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 01:30 (twelve years ago) link
69 is one of my favorite albums, but it rocks about as hard as yanni
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 01:45 (twelve years ago) link
algerian: listen to "spermwhale trip over" and tell me how hard they rock
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 01:48 (twelve years ago) link
Saying AR Kane rocks is like Wynton saying Bach swings.
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 7 August 2012 01:53 (twelve years ago) link
Test Dept. - Ecstacy Under Duress
Algerian-
you can remove the following:
F/i - Why Not Now? Alan!
I didn't mean to nom both this and Out of Space & Out of Time.
― Hellhouse, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 13:43 (twelve years ago) link
ok
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
thx
― Hellhouse, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:21 (twelve years ago) link
AC/DC - Back in BlackAdolescents - AdolescentsAerosmith - PumpAgent Orange - Living in DarknessAnthrax - Among The LivingAvengers - AvengersBad Brains - Bad BrainsBad Brains - I Against IBad Brains - s/tBad Religion - SufferBand of Susans - Love AgendaBand of Susans- Hope Against HopeBastro - Diablo GuapoBathory - Under The Sign Of The Black MarkBauhaus - Burning From The InsideBauhaus - In The Flat FieldBauhaus - MaskBauhaus - The Sky'S Gone OutBig Black - AtomizerBig Black - Songs About FuckingBilly Idol - Rebel YellBirthday Party - JunkyardBitch Magnet - UmberBlack Flag - DamagedBlack Flag - In My HeadBlack Flag - Jealous AgainBlack Flag - My WarBlack Flag - Slip It InBlack Sabbath - Heaven And HellBlack Sabbath - Mob RulesBlind Idiot God - s/tBlind Idiot God - UndertowBlue Oyster Cult - Cultosaurus ErectusBon Jovi - Slippery When WetBoredoms - Soul DischargeButthole Surfers - A Brown Reason To LiveButthole Surfers - Hairway to StevenButthole Surfers - Locust Abortion TechnicianButthole Surfers - Psychic... Powerless... Another Man'S SacButthole Surfers - Rembrandt PussyhorseCandlemass - Epicus Doomicus MetallicusCandlemass -NightfallCapt Beefheart - Doc at the Radar StationCapt Beefheart - Ice Cream for CrowCarcass - Symphonies of SicknessCelibate Rifles - The Turgid Miasma of ExistenceCeltic Frost - Into the PandemoniumCeltic Frost - Morbid TalesCeltic Frost - To Mega TherionCheap Trick - One On OneChristian Death - Only Theatre of PainChrome - Blood on the MoonChrome - Red ExposureChrome - Third From the SunCop Shoot Cop - Headkick FacsimileCoroner - No More ColorCoroner - Punishment for DecadenceCoroner - R.I.P.Corrosion of Conformity - AnimosityCosmic Psychos - Go the Hackcows - daddy has a tailCramps - Psychedelic JungleCramps - Smell Of FemaleCramps - Songs The Lord Taught UsCrash Course in Science - Signals from Pier 13crass - christ - the albumCrass - Penis EnvyCrass - Yes Sir I WillCro-Mags - Best WishesCro-Mags - The Age of QuarrelCryptic Slaughter - Money TalksD.R.I. - CrossoverD.R.I. - Dealing With ItDAF - Die Kleinen und die BosenDark Angel - Darkness DescendsDas Damen - MousetrapDas Damen - TriskaidekaphobeDead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotten VegetablesDead Milkmen - BeelzebubbaDeath - LeprosyDeath - Scream Bloody GoreDeath Angel - The Ultra-ViolenceDeath in June - Brown BookDeath in June - The Guilty Have No PrideDef Leppard - HysteriaDef Leppard - On Through the NightDef Leppard - PyromaniaDescendents - Milo Goes To CollegeDescendents - Milo Goes To CollegeDiamond Head - Lightning to the NationsDidjits - Hey JudesterDie Kreuzen - S/TDinosaur - S/TDinosaur Jr - BugDinosaur Jr - You're Living All Over MeDio - Holy DiverDio - Last In LineDischarge - Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say NothingDog Faced Hermans - Humans FlyDogs D'Amour - In the Dynamite Jet SaloonDream Syndicate - The Days of Wine and RosesDrunks with Guns - Drunks with GunsDwarves - Horror StoriesDwarves - Tooling for a Warm TeabagEinsturzende Neubauten - Drawings Of OtEinsturzende Neubauten - Fuenf Auf Der Nach Oben Offenen RichterskalaEinsturzende Neubauten - Halber MenschEinsturzende Neubauten – Haus der LügeEinsturzende Neubauten - KollapsElectro Hippies - The Only Good Punk... Is A Dead OneEmbrace - EmbraceEnglish Dogs - Forward Into BattleExciter - Long Live the LoudExodus - Bonded By BloodExodus - Fabulous DisasterExtreme Noise Terror - A Holocaust in Your HeadF/i - Out of Space & Out of TimeF/I - Space MantraFaith No More - Introduce YourselfFaith No More - The Real ThingFear - The RecordFire Party - s/tfIREHOSE - Ragin', Full OnFishbone - Truth and SoulFlesheaters - A Minute To Pray A Second To DieFlipper - Generic FlipperFoetus Interruptus - ThawFugazi - FugaziFugazi - Margin WalkerFushitsusha - Live IGame Theory - Big Shot ChroniclesGeorge Thorogood & The Destroyers - Bad to the BoneGirl Trouble - Hit It or Quit ItGirlschool - Demolition Glenn Branca - The AscensionGodflesh - StreetcleanerGore - Mean Man’s DreamGrong Grong - S/TGuns N' Roses - Appetite For DestructionHalo of Flies - GarbageburnHalo Of Flies - Singles Going NowhereHanoi Rocks - Bangkok Shocks, Saigon Shakes, Hanoi Rocks Head Of David - DustbowlHead Of David - Head Of DavidHelios Creed - Superior Catholic FingerHelios Creed - The Last LaughHusker Du - Candy Apple GreyHusker Du - Flip Your WigHusker Du - Metal CircusHusker Du - New day RisingHusker Du - Zen ArcadeIggy Pop - InstinctIron Maiden - KillersIron Maiden - Number Of The BeastIron Maiden - Piece of MindIron Maiden - PowerslaveIron Maiden - s/tJane's Addiction - Nothing's ShockingJoan Jett - Bad reputationJon Wayne - Texas FuneralJourney - DepartureJourney - EscapeJudas Priest - British SteelJudas Priest - Defenders of the FaithJudas Priest - Screaming For VengeanceKilldozer - Intellectuals Are The Shoeshine Boys Of The Ruling EliteKilldozer - Snake BoyKilling Joke - Killing JokeKilling Joke - Night TimeKilling Joke - What's THIS For...!Kilslug - Answer The CallKing Crimson - DisciplineKing Diamond - AbigailKix - Blow My FuseKix - s/tKreator - Pleasure To KillLast Exit - KölnLazy Cowgirls - Tapping the SourceLemonheads - Hate Your FriendsLime Spiders - HeadcleanerLita Ford - Out For BloodLive Skull - Bringing Home The BaitLive Skull - Cloud OneLive Skull - Don't Get Any on YouLive Skull - DustedLive Skull - S/TLiving Colour - VividLoop - Black SunLoop - The World in Your EyesLoop: - Fade Out Loverboy - Get LuckyLubricated Goat - Paddock Of LoveLyres - Lyres LyresMacabre - GloomManilla Road - Crystal LogicManilla Road - The DelugeManowar - Fighting The WorldManowar - Sign of the HammerMassacre - Killing TimeMasters Of Reality- Masters Of RealityMayhem - DeathcrushMeat Puppets- IIMegadeth - Killing Is My Business... and Business Is Good!Megadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buying?Megadeth - So Far, So Good... So WhatMelvins - Gluey Porch TreatmentsMelvins - OzmaMercyful Fate - MelissaMetallica - ...And Justice For AllMetallica - Kill 'Em AllMetallica - Master of PuppetsMetallica - Ride The LightningMinistry - The Land of Rape and HoneyMinistry - The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To TasteMinistry - TwitchMinor Threat - Minor ThreatMinor Threat - out of stepMinutemen – Double Nickels on the DimeMinutemen - The Punch LineMinutemen - What Makes a Man Start Fires?Misfits - BewareMisfits - Earth AdMisfits - Legacy Of BrutalityMission of Burma - Signals, Calls, and MarchesMission of Burma - Vs.Monster Magnet - Forget About Life I'M High On DopeMorbid Angel - Altars Of MadnessMotley Crue - Dr. FeelgoodMotley Crue - Shout At The DevilMotley Crue - Too Fast For LoveMotorhead - Ace of SpadesMotorhead - Another Perfect DayMotorhead - OrgasmatronMudhoney - Superfuzz BigmuffMX-80 Sound - Out Of The TunnelMy Bloody Valentine - Isn't AnythingN.W.A. - Straight Outta ComptonNaked City - Naked CityNaked Raygun - JettisonNaked Raygun - Throb ThrobNapalm Death - From Enslavement To ObliterationNapalm Death - ScumNeil Young & Crazy Horse - Re*Ac*TorNeurosis - Pain of MindNew Model Army - No Rest for the WickedNick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Firstborn Is DeadNick Cave + the Bad Seeds - From Her to EternityNick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Your Funeral, My TrialNine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate MachineNirvana - BleachNitzer Ebb - ShowtimeNo Trend – When Death Won'T Solve Your ProblemNoMeansNo - WrongObituary - Slowly We RotPagans - Buried AlivePantera - Power MetalPaul Chain - Violet Art Of ImprovisationPaul Chain Violet Theatre - Detaching From Satan EPpil - flowers of romancePixies - Come On PilgrimPixies - DoolittlePixies - Surfer Rosaplugz - better luckPoison - Open Up And Say...Ahhh!Poison Idea - Kings of PunkPop Group - For How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass MurderPossessed - Seven ChurchesPrimus - Suck On ThisProng - Force FedPsychedelic Furs - Talk Talk TalkPsychic TV - A Pagan DayPsychic TV - Mouth of the NightPussy Galore - Dial 'M' for MotherfuckerPussy Galore - Sugarshit SharpQueensryche - Operation: MindcrimeRaging Slab - Raging SlabRamones - End of the CenturyRapeman - Two Nuns and a Pack MuleRaw Power - Screams From the GutterRed Hot Chili Peppers - Freaky StyleyRed Hot Chili Peppers - Mothers MilkRed Hot Chili Peppers - Uplift Mofo Party PlanRedd Kross - NeuroticaReplacements - Let It BeReplacements - Sorry Ma, Forgot To Take Out The TrashRepulsion - HorrifiedRhys Chatham - Die DonnergotterRites Of Spring - End on EndRoyal Trux - Royal TruxRush - Moving PicturesS.O.D. - Speak English Or DieSaccharine Trust-Surviving You, AlwaysSaint Vitus - Born Too LateSaint Vitus - Saint VitusSaint Vitus - VScientists - This Heart Doesn'T Run On Blood, This Heart Doesn'T Run On LoveScientists - Weird LoveScorpions - Love At First StingScraping Foetus Off The Wheel - HoleScraping Foetus Off The Wheel – NailScratch Acid - Just Keep EatingScratch Acid - s/t Screaming Trees - Buzz FactoryScreaming Trees - Even If & Especially WhenSeptic Death - Now That I Have the Attention, What Do I Do with It?Sepultura - Beneath the RemainsSisters Of Mercy - First And Last And AlwaysSisters of Mercy - Floodland Skid Row - Skid RowSkinny Puppy - Cleanse Fold And ManipulateSkinny Puppy - Mind: The Perpetual IntercourseSkinny Puppy - VIVIsectVISkullflower - Form DestroyerSlayer - Hell AwaitsSlayer - Reign in BloodSlayer - South Of HeavenSlint - TweezSlovenly - We Shoot For the MoonSnatches of Pink - Dead MenSodom - Agent OrangeSonic Youth - Confusion Is SexSonic Youth - EvolSonic Youth - SisterSonny Sharrock - GuitarSore Throat - Death to Capitalist HardcoreSoul Asylum - Hang TimeSoundgarden - Louder Than LoveSoundgarden - Ultra Mega OKSpacemen 3 - Playing With FireSpacemen 3 - Sound of ConfusionSpacemen 3 - The Perfect PrescriptionSquirrel Bait - Skag HeavenSquirrel Bait - Squirrel BaitSteve Jones - Fire and GasolineStormtroopers of Death - Speak English or DieSuicidal Tendencies - InstitutionalizedSwans - Children Of GodSwans - CopSwans - FilthSwans - Public Castration Is A Good IdeaSwans - S/TSwans - Young GodTerrorizer - World DownfallTest Dept. - Ecstacy Under DuressTestament - The LegacyTestament - The New OrderThe Birthday Party - Prayers on FireThe Cult - ElectricThe Cult - LoveThe Cynics - Blue Train Stationthe ex - 1936 spanish revolutionThe Fall - Hex Enduction HouirThe Fall - Perverted by LanguageThe Fall - This Nation's Saving GraceThe Fluid - Clear Black PaperThe Fuzztones - Lysergic EmanationsThe Gories - House Rockin'The Gun Club - Fire of LoveThe Gun Club - The Las Vegas StoryThe Jesus And Mary Chain - AutomaticThe Jesus And Mary Chain - PsychocandyThe Jesus Lizard - PureThe Lords of the New Church - The Method to Our MadnessThe Meatmen - We're The Meatmen...and You Suck!!The Misfits - Walk Among UsThe Nomads - OutburstThe Primitives - Lazy 86-88The Ramones - Pleasant DreamsThe Scientists - Blood Red RiverThe Screaming Blue Messiahs - GunshyThe Screaming Blue Messiahs - Totally ReligiousThe Sound -JeopardyThe Telescopes - TasteThe Wedding Present - BizarroThee Mighty Caesars - English Punk Rock ExplosionThin Lizzy - Thunder and LightningThin White Rope - MoonheadThis Heat - DeceitThree Johns - Atom Drum BopThrowing Muses - s/tThrowing Muses - The Real RamonaTin Machine - Tin MachineTrouble - Psalm 9TSOL - Change Today?Twisted Sister - Stay HungryUnion Carbide Productions - In the Air TonightUt - ConvictionVan Halen - 1984Van Halen - Women and Children FirstVenom - PossessedVenom - Welcome to HellVoid/Faith Split LPVoivod - Dimension HatrossVoivod - Killing TechnologyVoivod - NothingfaceWarrant - Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking RichWASP - WASPWhitesnake - Slip of the TongueWhitesnake - WhitesnakeWipers - Is This RealWipers - Over The EdgeWipers - Youth Of AmericaWitchfinder General - Death PenaltyWolfhounds - Bright & GuiltyX - Los AngelesX - Wild GiftY&T - Open FireYes - Big GeneratorYes - DramaYoung Gods - L'eau RougeYoung Gods - s/tZero Boys - Vicious CircleZZ Top - Eliminator
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
not sure what happened to this, but I'll nom it again:
Saccharine Trust - Pagan Icons
― Hellhouse, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 23:06 (twelve years ago) link
Social Distortion - Mommy's Little MonsterSocial Distortion - Prison BoundCircle Jerks - Group SexOperation Ivy - Energy
Also "Stormtroopers of Death - Speak English or Die" and "S.O.D. - Speak English or Die" are the same band/album
― Raoul Duke (ku4u1u), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 01:04 (twelve years ago) link
This poll is silly...
obviously Poison's 'Look What the Cat Dragged In" is the best record of the 80s...
― SeanWayne, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 01:16 (twelve years ago) link
7 posts of the entire nominations list in 7 days. insane.
― some dude, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
why?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 01:56 (twelve years ago) link
if you look at any other ballot poll that gets posted maybe a couple times the entire thread. there's really no reason to do it that many times.
― some dude, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 02:02 (twelve years ago) link
who cares about other polls. It means less doubles being posted.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 02:07 (twelve years ago) link
everybody knows how to open the whole thread and ctrl f dude
― some dude, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 02:54 (twelve years ago) link
i cant believe someone actually counted how many times it had been posted. Of all the things on ilx to complain about too, lol.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
SPK - Auto-Da-Fe
― Hellhouse, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago) link
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, August 8, 2012 10:31 AM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark
it's like half the thread if you scroll through it. kind of hard not to notice or be bugged by!
― some dude, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 15:21 (twelve years ago) link
has anyone got an updated list of nominations?
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
missed the 2:30 but I think there's another at 3:05
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
Guess Papers - We Got 'Em
― Royal Governor His Eminence and Imperial (Viceroy), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
I'm sure there's a lot of albums that will be missed if not nominated so please keep nominating!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 9 August 2012 08:22 (twelve years ago) link
Nominating could end suddenly and voting begin so don't leave it too late
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 9 August 2012 14:11 (twelve years ago) link
do you have a date for the end of noms?
― Hellhouse, Thursday, 9 August 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
not yet but they dont usually go on for more than 2 weeks.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 9 August 2012 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
Public Image Ltd - The Flowers of RomanceSonic Youth - Daydream Nation
― aspiring barkitect (silverfish), Thursday, 9 August 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link
they're already nomed
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 9 August 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
If only there was some kind of up-to-date list by which one could cross reference nomination ideas.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 9 August 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link
he gets it finally
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 9 August 2012 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
I'm album nommed out. I seriously can't think of anything more. This has led me to want to do my own poll though -- "TOP 100 HC/Post-HC/Thrash/Grind bands albums released made ON/AFTER 1990 but before 2000" - I couldn't nominate a bunch of bands that, like formed in 1982 but didn't release a proper album of any kind until the 90s...
― Royal Governor His Eminence and Imperial (Viceroy), Thursday, 9 August 2012 22:57 (twelve years ago) link
Jim Carroll Band - Catholic BoyPlasmatics - Beyond the Valley of 1984
― cock chirea, Friday, 10 August 2012 02:30 (twelve years ago) link
good call on catholic boy, cock. i nominated "people who died" in the tracks poll, but didn't think to sub the album over here. so great.
― contenderizer, Friday, 10 August 2012 06:17 (twelve years ago) link
The Left - Hell It's the EarthRudimentary Peni - Death Church
― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 10 August 2012 13:39 (twelve years ago) link
Are these considered EPs? 'Cause they rock harder than the LPs:
Replacements - StinkNaked Raygun - Basement Screams
Also Suicidal Tendencies should be s/t not "Institutionalized" I think.
― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 10 August 2012 13:44 (twelve years ago) link
Couch Potatoes - Curiosity RocksBig Boys/Dicks - Recorded Live at Raul's ClubIcons of Filth - Onward Christian SoldiersAppliances-SFB - SFBCondemned to Death - Diary of a Love MonsterThe Crucifucks - s/tDescendents - I Don't Want to Grow Up
― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 10 August 2012 13:48 (twelve years ago) link
Whoops, sorry, just saw your note about EPs as mini-albums, cool.
― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 10 August 2012 13:55 (twelve years ago) link
http://open.spotify.com/user/thomas303/playlist/66Zqss2Vnx1vfDsdG58Mjj
half a spotify playlist will prob do the rest on monday morning
― Crackle Box, Friday, 10 August 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link
I thought I was nommed out but then I see glaring omissions like this
Rudimentary Peni - Death Church
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Friday, 10 August 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
maybe if we bold it AG will notice? "Suicidal Tendencies - Institutionalized" should be "Suicidal Tendencies - S/T
― vincent black shadow giallo (Edward III), Friday, 10 August 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
^ yeah, was gonna say, this correction was suggested several days back
― contenderizer, Friday, 10 August 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
i fixed it on the SS days ago. Was waiting for more noms before reposting the list.
only about 400 or less albums nommed so I think more people need to be nudged to nominate otherwise they will be the ones complaining that such and such wasnt nominated.
So please nominate more albums so we can start the voting as soon as possible once we can.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 11 August 2012 01:28 (twelve years ago) link
i thought timellison, having been so keen on whats not allowed in the poll, would be nominating albums that are allowed.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 11 August 2012 02:56 (twelve years ago) link
I can't help but look at the list of albums and think that this particular grouping of rock subgenres, which feels arbitrary to me, is supposed to represent SOMETHING. That there's some commonality and some reason why they're being considered together. Maybe it doesn't, in which case there would be no reason to be irked by it, but you haven't explained it.
― timellison, Saturday, 11 August 2012 03:11 (twelve years ago) link
if you put aside the hair metal and some of the college/indie rock, you have a fairly coherent list of 80s underground metal/punk/postpunk, with a smattering of hip-hop and speed/death metal (ie all things aggro in the 80s minus, say, power electronics). the irony is that the inclusion of hair metal and college/indie rock opens the door to voters harboring pop sensibilities while also making the list slightly more confusing to same, but w/e. you could also say that the list essentially squares with Carducci's Rock and the Pop Narcotic, but includes music made with drum machines (Big Black, Ministry, etc.). maybe "post-genre rock" is most accurate.
― Hellhouse, Saturday, 11 August 2012 13:52 (twelve years ago) link
im surprised noone tried to get power electronics in tbh
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 11 August 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
maybe noone thinks it rocks
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 11 August 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
nope
― contenderizer, Saturday, 11 August 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
the irony is that the inclusion of hair metal and college/indie rock opens the door to voters harboring pop sensibilities while also making the list slightly more confusing to same, but w/e.
That's not the only door I see opened, though. I also see Ut's Conviction and This Heat and that first Royal Trux record and Ice Cream for Crow. This makes me wonder if nominating the Residents would be permissible.
― timellison, Saturday, 11 August 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
Dream Syndicate and Thin White Rope are also interesting inclusions. They're no more rock than plenty of rock that "harbors pop sensibilities," but if you're explicit about pop sensibilities, then you're out. If you're not as explicit about it, like the Pixies, then you're in.
― timellison, Saturday, 11 August 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
they allowed Killing Time so everything is possible. i say let's bring more avant rock to the list.
― cock chirea, Saturday, 11 August 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, the this heat nomination seems almost comically inappropriate. a couple of tracks that approach something like post-punk "rock", but most of it is fairly low-key abstract noise.
― contenderizer, Saturday, 11 August 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
it can be removed if enough onject
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 11 August 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, well the track list has "Sister Christian" by Night Ranger, so I imagine Algerian will at some point have to make a number of judgement calls. the bands you mention, though, are IMO definitely borderline, but they all (I think, and I could be wrong) make music from within a rockist, small-band structure (even if they don't rock particularly hard), whereas the Residents are really more of a studio-project group (although if their music actually rocked, they could conceivably be included). Personally, I would veto the Residents, but I obviously can't speak for Algerian.
― Hellhouse, Saturday, 11 August 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
― timellison, Saturday, August 11, 2012 11:22 AM (12 minutes ago)
yeah, but they're sort of essentialist rock, like rock music stripped of everything but that. blues based, with a clear debt both to early rock and punk, especially television. not hard rock, exactly (though live thin white rope definitely went that way), but making few concessions to pop.
i considered nominated both, but decided against it, because my conception of what "rocks" cleaves pretty close to the chuck berry/jerry lee lewis --> star club beatles/sonics --> ramones/dolls --> motorhead/maiden --> white stripes/QOTSA lineage.
― contenderizer, Saturday, 11 August 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
uh, "i considered nominating both..."
― contenderizer, Saturday, 11 August 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, August 11, 2012 11:38 AM (10 minutes ago)
i don't object to the inclusion of this heat. just saying they're a weird outlier here. and everywhere.
― contenderizer, Saturday, 11 August 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago) link
let's try these
Snakefinger - Greener PosturesZoogz Rift - Amputees in LimboRobert Fripp - The League of Gentlemen
― cock chirea, Saturday, 11 August 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
If I "strip rock music of everything but that," I also get Buddy Holly and Fats Domino and the Everly Brothers. And doo wop.
― timellison, Saturday, 11 August 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
IMO definitely borderline
^^^
sounds like something Nixon would say.
― Hellhouse, Saturday, 11 August 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
true, but i was thinking specifically about what "rock music" had become by the mid 80s in the american rock-fan culture from which both bands arose. it wasn't rock and roll (that's the "early rock" i mentioned), and it wasn't punk, but it could easily include both. pop appeal was certainly allowed, but it was looked somewhat askance at, especially if the music in question didn't actually rock pretty damn hard.
the everly brothers wouldn't be in the venn circle simply because they didn't rock hard enough, historical context be damned. same goes for a lot of doo-wop. 70s heaviness and punk had changed rock, both sonically and conceptually, by the time these bands came up.
― contenderizer, Saturday, 11 August 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link
i was thinking specifically about what "rock music" had become by the mid 80s in the american rock-fan culture from which both bands arose. it wasn't rock and roll (that's the "early rock" i mentioned), and it wasn't punk, but it could easily include both. pop appeal was certainly allowed, but it was looked somewhat askance at
Yeah, I'd imagine that for every example of that (like Carducci maybe), there's a counter-example (like his local contemporary D. Boon putting out a single by the Salvation Army).
― timellison, Saturday, 11 August 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
Or consider "Sea and Sky" from the second SWA record, if you've ever heard that. Zoogz Rift did Freddie and the Dreamers and Elvis Costello covers.
― timellison, Saturday, 11 August 2012 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
Here's another example - how are Slovenly more "essentialist rock" than the Feelies?
― timellison, Saturday, 11 August 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
i dont know slovenly. Is that an objection to them being in?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 11 August 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
not sure where that comes from, but slovenly were a bit heavier and rougher, and they made fewer concessions to pop. they're both comfortably in the circle, imo, especially in their early days.
― contenderizer, Saturday, 11 August 2012 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
fewer concessions to unrocking pop, i mean
― contenderizer, Saturday, 11 August 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
Can you listen to the guitar solo that comes in at 1:51 on "Loveless Love" from Crazy Rhythms and really assert that Slovenly were heavier and rougher?
― timellison, Saturday, 11 August 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
(I mean, I only ever had one Slovenly record so I don't know for sure, but...)
― timellison, Saturday, 11 August 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
"sea and sky" is great, and seems much purer in its rockness than most stuff by either slovenly or the feelies. it's got pop hooks, but kicks hard, seems to descend from thin lizzy.
― contenderizer, Saturday, 11 August 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
lol, the hair-splitting specificity of these comparisons. had to go listen to "loveless love". sure, that solo rocks, no argument. especially love the super simple bump-ba-bump drumming under it. but like i said, i'd put slovenly (though i don't know them well), the feelies, thin white rope, early REM, the dream syndicate, the embarrassment and a bunch of others all in the same basket. children of the VU, modern lovers, the voidoids and television.
― contenderizer, Saturday, 11 August 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
The thing is that solo is more ferocious than anything by Television or the Dream Syndicate but the Feelies are out because they didn't wear the right clothes.
― timellison, Saturday, 11 August 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
i guess with respect to algerian's goalposts, that group of bands tends strongly toward collegiate "indiepop". like i said, the main difference is that the dream syndicate and thin white rope don't push the pop aspects very hard, especially in comparison to the feelies and REM. TDS were given to stretching out on a jam, TWR to fairly harsh and heavy sounds. probably won't be voting for either in this poll, though thin white rope were one of my favorite bands of their era. the thin white rope album i would vote for, the one that got away, came out in '93, boo.
― contenderizer, Saturday, 11 August 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
the Feelies are out because they didn't wear the right clothes.
i think it's more that their sound was generally fairly soft and light, overall, despite its underlying drive and tension. quality of tone and aggression are important here, i think.
and by the time they get 3:15 into "halloween", the dream syndicate are definitely holding their own with that feelies solo, and then some.
― contenderizer, Saturday, 11 August 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
the dream syndicate - halloween
― contenderizer, Saturday, 11 August 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, I disagree completely. They're holding their own with noise but not with energy.
― timellison, Saturday, 11 August 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
like i said, the main difference is that the dream syndicate and thin white rope don't push the pop aspects very hard, especially in comparison to the feelies and REM.
I get it with R.E.M. (though I don't see why it matters), but I don't with the Feelies. It's like you can sound like the Velvet Underground but you can't be too energetic about it.
― timellison, Saturday, 11 August 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
well, that tightly wound tension was the feelies' thing, but precoda's completely dialed in during that moment, imo. he's not driving the beat along, just spitting sparks off the rail, and the energy level is impressively high for such a slow & moody song.
― contenderizer, Saturday, 11 August 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
that was xp
i'm with you on the feelies fwiw. crazy rhythms deserves a shot.
― contenderizer, Saturday, 11 August 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
forgot that it had been bared, tbh
lol, barred
anyway, the best argument for the feelies isn't the "loveless love" solo, i don't think, but rather the whole of "i wanna sleep in your arms". that's the only point where they toughen up their sound to the level of the modern lovers and the more aggressive VU tracks, rock it all the way through. i'd vote for it in the tracks poll.
i mean, the velvet underground had lots of upbeat jangly pop tunes, but they also had stuff like "venus in furs" and "sister ray". noise, heaviness and aggression. the feelies didn't really go there.
― contenderizer, Saturday, 11 August 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link
Ragin', Full On is another curiosity with regard to this discussion. Melodicism OK but it has to veer more toward art song than pop in that case.
― timellison, Saturday, 11 August 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
cant you actually just nominate some stuff that does meet the criteria? lol
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 11 August 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link
you have to admit that the criteria are a bit vague and/or arbitrarily applied, AG
― contenderizer, Saturday, 11 August 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
though in firehose's defense
chemical wire
― contenderizer, Saturday, 11 August 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
sure, but it doesnt stop you nominating lots more things. Remember you will have up to 50 to choose on your ballot. So get nominating everybody so you cannot complain anything is left out.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 11 August 2012 21:15 (twelve years ago) link
i'm tired of nominating though. it requires too much thought. i'd rather cut to the complaining part.
― contenderizer, Saturday, 11 August 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link
You can do it, i dont want anyone complaining albums they want to vote for have been left out
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 11 August 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
some stuff that barely got nominations: synth punk, power pop, RIO/zeuhl, neo-psych/garage, non-anglophile rock... just saying
― cock chirea, Saturday, 11 August 2012 22:48 (twelve years ago) link
would be very surprised if there's not a power pop poll in the future
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 11 August 2012 22:52 (twelve years ago) link
omg you <know something> don't you
― contenderizer, Saturday, 11 August 2012 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
no.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 11 August 2012 23:06 (twelve years ago) link
but a couple of us have had an idea of asking someone to run it, but i don't know if they have been asked yet or not.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 11 August 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
poll cru
― contenderizer, Saturday, 11 August 2012 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
no poll cru there's no poll crut either
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 12 August 2012 01:25 (twelve years ago) link
we need nominations cru (or crut)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 00:41 (twelve years ago) link
do the Mekons fit the criteria?
― JoeStork, Monday, 13 August 2012 01:34 (twelve years ago) link
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 01:34 (twelve years ago) link
Alright then
Mekons - Fear and WhiskeyThe Clean - Boodle Boodle BoodleTall Dwarfs - Hello Cruel World
― JoeStork, Monday, 13 August 2012 01:51 (twelve years ago) link
Results of the previous 80s poll
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:00 (twelve years ago) link
Will infact post the old results here since JF wanted no more posts over there100. Robyn Hitchcock - I Often Dream of Trains [1984] (75 points, 5 votes)98. (tie) Scraping Foetus off the Wheel - Hole [1984] (76 points, 5 votes)98. (tie) Spacemen 3 - The Perfect Prescription [1987] (76 points, 5 votes)97. Big Black - Atomizer [1986] (77 points, 8 votes)96. Associates - Sulk [1982] (79 points, 6 votes)95. Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking [1988] (79 points, 7 votes)94. Def Leppard - Pyromania [1983] (80 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote)93. Thomas Dolby - The Golden Age of Wireless [1982] (80 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote)92. Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark - Dazzle Ships [1983] (80 points, 9 votes)91. Run-D.M.C. - Raising Hell [1986] (80 points, 10 votes)90. Meat Puppets - Meat Puppets II [1984] (81 points, 9 votes)89. Prince and the Revolution - Parade [1986] (83 points, 10 votes)88. Bruce Springsteen - Tunnel of Love [1987] (86 points, 7 votes)87. Pet Shop Boys - Actually [1987] (86 points, 8 votes)86. Pet Shop Boys - Please [1986] (87 points, 8 votes)84. (tie) Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine [1989] (87 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)84. (tie) Talking Heads - Speaking in Tongues [1983] (87 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)83. David Bowie - Scary Monsters [1980] (89 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote)82. Scraping Foetus off the Wheel - Nail [1985] (91 points, 5 votes, 1 first place vote)81. The Beat (aka The English Beat) - I Just Can't Stop It [1980] (91 points, 13 votes)80. Various - The Indestructible Beat of Soweto [1985] (93 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote)79. The The - Soul Mining [1983] (93 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote)78. The Pogues - Rum, Sodomy & the Lash [1985] (93 points, 16 votes)77. Meat Puppets - Up on the Sun [1985] (94 points, 8 votes)76. U2 - The Joshua Tree [1987] (95 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote)75. Cyndi Lauper - She's So Unusual [1983] (95 points, 9 votes)74. Galaxie 500 - On Fire [1989] (96 points, 10 votes)73. X - Wild Gift [1981] (97 points, 9 votes)72. The Chills - Kaleidoscope World [1986] (98 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote)71. Roxy Music - Avalon [1982] (99 points, 10 votes)70. Laurie Anderson - Big Science [1982] (99 points, 11 votes)69. Scritti Politti - Cupid & Psyche 85 [1985] (100 points, 7 votes)68. New Order - Power, Corruption & Lies [1983] (100 points, 16 votes)67. Violent Femmes - Violent Femmes [1983] (101 points, 12 votes)66. Prefab Sprout - Steve McQueen [1985] (104 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote)65. Donald Fagen - The Nightfly [1982] (105 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)63. (tie) Tom Waits - Rain Dogs [1985] (106 points, 12 votes)63. (tie) Cocteau Twins - Treasure [1984] (106 points, 12 votes)62. Grace Jones - Nightclubbing [1981] (106 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)61. Arthur Russell - World of Echo [1986] (108 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)60. Eric B. & Rakim - Paid In Full [1987] (111 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)59. Mekons - Fear and Whiskey [1985] (111 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes)58. The Cure - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me [1987] (112 points, 7 votes, 2 first place votes)57. Arvo Pärt - Tabula Rasa [1984] (112 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote)56. R.E.M. - Lifes Rich Pageant [1986] (112 points, 12 votes)55. Dinosaur Jr. - You're Living All Over Me [1987] (115 points, 13 votes)54. Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A. [1984] (118 points, 14 votes)53. Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska [1982] (120 points, 14 votes)52. Brian Eno / David Byrne - My Life in the Bush of Ghosts [1981] (120 points, 17 votes)51. Leonard Cohen - I'm Your Man [1988] (121 points, 11 votes)50. The Feelies - Crazy Rhythms [1980] (123 points, 13 votes)49. The Go-Betweens - 16 Lovers Lane [1988] (125 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote)48. XTC - Skylarking [1986] (127 points, 16 votes)47. Steely Dan - Gaucho [1980] (128 points, 9 votes)46. R.E.M. - Reckoning [1984] (131 points, 14 votes)45. Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band - Doc at the Radar Station [1980] (133 points, 11 votes)44. The Fall - This Nation's Saving Grace [1985] (136 points, 13 votes)43. Sonic Youth - EVOL [1986] (143 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)42. Hüsker Dü - New Day Rising [1985] (146 points, 14 votes)41. The Cure - Pornography [1982] (148 points, 9 votes)40. Dexy’s Midnight Runners - Searching for the Young Soul Rebels [1980] (148 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)39. Manuel Göttsching - E2-E4 [1984] (154 points, 12 votes, 2 first place votes)38. New Order - Substance [1987] (156 points, 16 votes)37. De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising [1989] (164 points, 23 votes)36. The Fall - Hex Enduction Hour [1982] (166 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote)35. ABC - The Lexicon of Love [1982] (173 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)34. The Smiths - Hatful of Hollow [1984] (173 points, 16 votes)33. The Smiths - Louder Than Bombs [1987] (174 points, 20 votes)32. Prince - 1999 [1982] (191 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)31. Sonic Youth - Sister [1987] (199 points, 21 votes, 1 first place vote)30. Hüsker Dü - Zen Arcade [1984] (200 points, 13 votes)29. Young Marble Giants - Colossal Youth [1980] (200 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)28. The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses [1989] (201 points, 15 votes, 2 first place votes)27. Guns N' Roses - Appetite for Destruction [1987] (201 points, 18 votes)26. Prince - Dirty Mind [1980] (210 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote)25. The Clash - Sandinista! [1980] (211 points, 11 votes, 3 first place votes)24. The Cure - Disintegration [1989] (218 points, 19 votes, 1 first place vote)23. The Human League - Dare [1981] (219 points, 17 votes, 2 first place votes)22. My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything [1988] (229 points, 19 votes, 2 first place votes)21. Paul Simon - Graceland [1986] (237 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)20. The Jesus and Mary Chain - Psychocandy [1985] (243 points, 23 votes, 1 first place vote)19. The Replacements - Let It Be [1984] (252 points, 18 votes, 1 first place vote)18. Joy Division - Closer [1980] (255 points, 24 votes)17. Kate Bush - The Dreaming [1982] (269 points, 13 votes, 3 first place votes)16. New Order - Technique [1989] (273 points, 15 votes, 2 first place votes)15. Pixies - Surfer Rosa [1988] (273 points, 21 votes, 1 first place vote)14. Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden [1988] (274 points, 18 votes, 2 first place votes)13. Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique [1989] (291 points, 25 votes, 1 first place vote)12. Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime [1984] (300 points, 15 votes, 3 first place votes)11. The Smiths - The Queen is Dead [1986] (307 points, 26 votes, 1 first place vote)10. Pixies – Doolittle [1989] (323 points, 31 votes)9. Michael Jackson - Thriller [1982] (331 points, 35 votes)8. Kraftwerk - Computer World [1981] (338 points, 29 votes)7. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation [1988] (356 points, 28 votes, 3 first place votes)6. R.E.M. - Murmur [1983] (359 points, 30 votes, 2 first place votes)5. Prince - Sign “O” the Times [1987] (381 points, 28 votes, 2 first place votes)4. Kate Bush - Hounds of Love [1985] (422 points, 35 votes, 2 first place votes)3. Prince and the Revolution - Purple Rain [1984] (423 points, 35 votes, 2 first place votes)2. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back [1988] (478 points, 39 votes, 2 first place votes)1. Talking Heads - Remain in Light [1980] (568 points, 37 votes, 4 first place votes)
The 2 polls will be quite different then (doubt we will get as many ballots but who knows!)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:04 (twelve years ago) link
JF was it you who ran the alternate 70s poll ? was it just albums from the previous 70s poll you didn't allow or was it any band who had an album in the top 100 you banned?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:10 (twelve years ago) link
It was only the 100 albums that placed in the original 70s poll.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:16 (twelve years ago) link
Did you never fancy doing an alternate 80s poll?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:18 (twelve years ago) link
It hasn't even been three years since Tuomas's poll. Figured it could probably wait a while longer (there was a big gap between 70s mkI and 70s mkII).
I did ever so briefly toy around with the idea of a worst of the 80s poll, but preemptively decided it was a dumb undertaking.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:21 (twelve years ago) link
The idea is good actually but the problem is a lot of the worst albums noone will in their right mind have played them since the 80s and younger people should be unaware of them. It would just turn into anti-canon/big album bashing.But if that's what you want then you should go for it! The butthurt that ensues would be lolz
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:24 (twelve years ago) link
has there been a 1960s poll?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:25 (twelve years ago) link
Yep, all the decades have been covered both albums and tracks-wise except the 50s, which was just tracks.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:26 (twelve years ago) link
Wonder how an alternate 60s albums poll would turnout. Would everyone just vote a beatles album that didn't make the previous poll as winner?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:28 (twelve years ago) link
Better late than never. ILX 60'S POLL PART TWO - THE ALBUMS
Only a top 50 posted, less than 300 even nominated. That could probably stand to be redone at some point (no offense to Billy Dods).
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:30 (twelve years ago) link
oh cool
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:31 (twelve years ago) link
my other idea for a poll (as i wanted to leave the power pop poll to you as its a genre you love) was a funk poll. But I realised that we wouldn't get double figures in ballots unless we included soul and that just obviously defeated the purpose of a standalone funk poll. I'm not sure we've had a soul poll so maybe that will get done in the future. It deserves a tracks/albums poll.I would love it if someone ran a reggae poll some time.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:35 (twelve years ago) link
Genre polls are tricky (see rap and metal and this very weird poll here). Tuomas is slated to do a disco poll in the current poll schedule (after we get through a couple dozen more artist polls) and that will probably even be controversial, even though everyone knows what disco is when they hear it. I've never had any desire at all to run a genre poll.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:38 (twelve years ago) link
not even a genre you love?
I just realised that Geir will hate this poll as everything he likes probably wont be eligible!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:40 (twelve years ago) link
Years and artists are easy. Labels too. Genres are hard and completely arbitrary and people get rowdy because the rules aren't clear. I like clear rules. (i.e. Was it released between 1970 and 1979? Okay, it's eligible.)
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:44 (twelve years ago) link
well you certainly don't get problems with purists in those polls at least
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 02:47 (twelve years ago) link
but genre polls are fun.
i know you enjoy participating on them too
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 03:08 (twelve years ago) link
jazz might not be your thing but that was a very enjoyable poll to do.The metal poll was mostly as well.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 03:10 (twelve years ago) link
now please get your nominations rolling in.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 05:44 (twelve years ago) link
DNA - A Taste of DNAMars - 78
― Hellhouse, Monday, 13 August 2012 12:25 (twelve years ago) link
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
lol jesus man
― Pollopolicía (some dude), Monday, 13 August 2012 13:49 (twelve years ago) link
not in favour of jf redoing it?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 13 August 2012 14:41 (twelve years ago) link
just re-doing the exact same poll that was done less than 5 years ago, for likely a very similar result, strikes me as wasted time. maybe something like that alternate 90s poll we did a while back where every album that placed in the previous 90s poll was disqualified, would certainly make room for a different look at the 60s.
― Pollopolicía (some dude), Monday, 13 August 2012 15:02 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not in a terrible hurry to redo any poll at the present time, btw. If I were to tackle the 60s, I'd definitely go the "alt-60s" route and exempt the 50 albums that placed in the original poll.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 August 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago) link
contenderizer,
Coincidentally, I found a copy of Paul Roessler's Pandemonium Shadow Show Featuring Twisted Roots (1983, Iridescence) in a thrift store today and there are some serious pop keyboards on this.
― timellison, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
Has Kira on bass, Dix Denney of the Weirdos on guitar.
― timellison, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
Gerber on vocals
― timellison, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
bump for new nominations?
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 August 2012 04:14 (twelve years ago) link
― timellison, Tuesday, August 14, 2012 2:12 PM (Yesterday)
how have i not heard of this?
...just spent a few minutes looking. doesn't appear to be avail for download anywhere :(
― contenderizer, Thursday, 16 August 2012 04:26 (twelve years ago) link
http://images.buyninjacostumes.com/leonardo-turtle-costume.jpg???
― contenderizer, Thursday, 16 August 2012 04:44 (twelve years ago) link
I was under the impression that the poll was on its way to being killed by a death by a thousand cuts when it suddenly imploded. in the event of zombie resurrection:
Glenn Branca - Lesson No. 1Ike Yard - s/t Prong - Primitive OriginsSuicide - Half Alive
― Hellhouse, Thursday, 16 August 2012 13:13 (twelve years ago) link
I guess if Bruce is out then John Cougar Mellencamp is too?
― o. nate, Thursday, 16 August 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link
80% of the postmortem conveniently written already:
The concept of a 'Taste Vocabulary' - unread
― Hellhouse, Thursday, 16 August 2012 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
hah.
Can we have more nominations please? No point in opening voting until the electronic poll voting has stopped as it would be unfair on them incase people want to vote in both
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 17 August 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
Assuming there is enough people interested in voting?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 17 August 2012 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
you may need to make an official pronouncement vigorously disputing the notion that the poll is sorry sack of death. also, while I don't feel that your aesthetic parameters are particularly oddball, have you considered letting people nominate literally any 80s album they think rocks, leaving it to the voters to sort? or, otoh, actually making the poll narrower (eg metal/punk/noise rock)? just my .02.
― Hellhouse, Friday, 17 August 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 17 August 2012 22:12 (twelve years ago) link
just to be clear, I like the general idea of the poll (and was also just making a bad joke about the poll's limbo status). also, pop is obv the main focus of ILM, and I understand wanting to stick w/a rock poll. other people seem v. confused by the criteria, tho, and I threw those ideas out there to address that. nbd
― Hellhouse, Friday, 17 August 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I know its cool. Nominations are always a bit slow until theres an end date.Thread does need to have chat though to keep it on SNA so people are reminded.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 17 August 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago) link
I don't really see any place for someone like me in this poll. I listen to rock. I'd say there was a point in my life when I listened to MOSTLY rock. However, a bunch of the college rock shit I'd nominate has already been nominated and there's not much point in nominating hair metal that no one will vote for besides me and maybe two or three other people.
Of course, I'd consider Siouxsie to be a rock band (if you've only ever heard "Peek A Boo" or whatever, I'd understand your inclination to say no). And Pretenders (especially album #1). And Bryan Adams's Reckless, which was one of 1984's best mainstream rock albums.
But this was never really a poll about rock music. It was a poll about was AG considers rock music. Instead, I think we should all show up at his house and letter-grade his cd collection.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 17 August 2012 22:50 (twelve years ago) link
no it isn't. its about a different poll from the usual already been done 80s rock poll that Rolling Stone likes to do
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 18 August 2012 00:25 (twelve years ago) link
bump
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 18 August 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
ok i guess now the electronic poll is underway then this is the last week for nominations.
perhaps a kindly mod would add nominations close sunday night to the title?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 20 August 2012 08:47 (twelve years ago) link
― Johnny Fever, Friday, August 17, 2012 11:50 PM (3 days ago)
the way the poll is framed might seem a bit clunky like 'rock' vs 'music that rocks' or whatever, but it makes sense if you think in terms of spirit rather than genre
there is enough of an envelope to cover most of this stuff (except the pop end metal)
it was a protean age when the lines between genres weren't quite so blurred, but there was a definite sort of harshness, an irrationalism, a dyonysian trend that you can trace through the young gods to live skull to early sonic youth to spacemen 3 to napalm death and so forth
to that extent, it is correct to exclude music which is not a part of that tendency
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 August 2012 12:49 (twelve years ago) link
I tried adding "noms close" info to the thread title, but the title is already so long I just get an error message. If you write a thread title that gets closing date into the current number of characters, I can make the edit.
― Romney's Kitchen Nightmares (WmC), Monday, 20 August 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
think some sort of brevity might be in order
PFUNKBOY IN ROCKPOLL NOMS CLOSE SHOCKAH
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 August 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
How about shortening it just toNominations for an 80s Albums That Rock Poll(inc indie/Alt,punk,metal,heavy/glam etc) CLOSES SUNDAY NIGHT MIDNIGHT UK?
Thanks
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 20 August 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
it was a protean age when the lines between genres weren't quite so blurred, but there was a definite sort of harshness, an irrationalism, a dyonysian trend that you can trace through the young gods to live skull to early sonic youth to spacemen 3 to napalm death and so forthto that extent, it is correct to exclude music which is not a part of that tendency
He took the words right outta my mouth..
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 20 August 2012 14:52 (twelve years ago) link
"Except[ing] the pop end of metal" kind of weakens this, though, since it is included. (I would also query the exclusion of stuff like Run DMC and Beastie Boys, given some of the things that are included.)
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 20 August 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link
no i don't think run dmc and beasties really fit here at all
the pop metal stuff....i think you have to include gnr in this somehow, if only as the sort of negative-image, and because when you disregard narcissism of smallish differences there are definite similarities with jane's addiction, who certainly belong here
the rest of the glam stuff i wouldn't include but i don't really care, and i don't think that stuff is going to be that highly represented in the results
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 August 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks WmC
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 20 August 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link
there is also something dialectical and hilarious about including these two, and excluding REM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alKM2Y1XxWU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0eVTeQi06c
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 August 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago) link
R.E.M. are more rational and less Dionysian because Peter Buck played a Rickenbacker.
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
peter buck reserves his dionysian side for scraps with airline staff
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 August 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
tim quit trolling and positively contribute by nominating albums that fit the criteria
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 20 August 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
450 Albums Nominated so far
AC/DC - Back in BlackAdolescents - AdolescentsAerosmith - PumpAgent Orange - Living in DarknessAnthrax - Among The LivingAppliances-SFB - SFBAppliances-SFB - SFBAvengers - AvengersBad Brains - Bad BrainsBad Brains - I Against IBad Brains - s/tBad Religion - SufferBand of Susans - Love AgendaBand of Susans- Hope Against HopeBastro - Diablo GuapoBathory - Under The Sign Of The Black MarkBauhaus - Burning From The InsideBauhaus - In The Flat FieldBauhaus - MaskBauhaus - The Sky'S Gone OutBig Black - AtomizerBig Black - Songs About FuckingBig Boys/Dicks - Recorded Live at Raul's ClubBig Boys/Dicks - Recorded Live at Raul's ClubBilly Idol - Rebel YellBirthday Party - JunkyardBitch Magnet - UmberBlack Flag - DamagedBlack Flag - In My HeadBlack Flag - Jealous AgainBlack Flag - My WarBlack Flag - Slip It InBlack Sabbath - Heaven And HellBlack Sabbath - Mob RulesBlind Idiot God - s/tBlind Idiot God - UndertowBlue Oyster Cult - Cultosaurus ErectusBon Jovi - Slippery When WetBoredoms - Soul DischargeButthole Surfers - A Brown Reason To LiveButthole Surfers - Hairway to StevenButthole Surfers - Locust Abortion TechnicianButthole Surfers - Psychic... Powerless... Another Man'S SacButthole Surfers - Rembrandt PussyhorseCandlemass - Epicus Doomicus MetallicusCandlemass -NightfallCapt Beefheart - Doc at the Radar StationCapt Beefheart - Ice Cream for CrowCarcass - Symphonies of SicknessCelibate Rifles - The Turgid Miasma of ExistenceCeltic Frost - Into the PandemoniumCeltic Frost - Morbid TalesCeltic Frost - To Mega TherionCheap Trick - One On OneChristian Death - Only Theatre of PainChrome - Blood on the MoonChrome - Red ExposureChrome - Third From the SunCircle Jerks - Group SexCondemned to Death - Diary of a Love MonsterCondemned to Death - Diary of a Love MonsterCop Shoot Cop - Headkick FacsimileCoroner - No More ColorCoroner - Punishment for DecadenceCoroner - R.I.P.Corrosion of Conformity - AnimosityCosmic Psychos - Go the HackCouch Potatoes - Curiosity RocksCouch Potatoes - Curiosity Rockscows - daddy has a tailCramps - Psychedelic JungleCramps - Smell Of FemaleCramps - Songs The Lord Taught UsCrash Course in Science - Signals from Pier 13crass - christ - the albumCrass - Penis EnvyCrass - Yes Sir I WillCro-Mags - Best WishesCro-Mags - The Age of QuarrelCryptic Slaughter - Money TalksD.R.I. - CrossoverD.R.I. - Dealing With ItDAF - Die Kleinen und die BosenDark Angel - Darkness DescendsDas Damen - MousetrapDas Damen - TriskaidekaphobeDead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotten VegetablesDead Milkmen - BeelzebubbaDeath - LeprosyDeath - Scream Bloody GoreDeath Angel - The Ultra-ViolenceDeath in June - Brown BookDeath in June - The Guilty Have No PrideDef Leppard - HysteriaDef Leppard - On Through the NightDef Leppard - PyromaniaDescendents - I Don't Want to Grow UpDescendents - I Don't Want to Grow UpDescendents - Milo Goes To CollegeDescendents - Milo Goes To CollegeDiamond Head - Lightning to the NationsDidjits - Hey JudesterDie Kreuzen - S/TDinosaur - S/TDinosaur Jr - BugDinosaur Jr - You're Living All Over MeDio - Holy DiverDio - Last In LineDischarge - Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say NothingDNA - A Taste of DNADog Faced Hermans - Humans FlyDogs D'Amour - In the Dynamite Jet SaloonDream Syndicate - The Days of Wine and RosesDrunks with Guns - Drunks with GunsDwarves - Horror StoriesDwarves - Tooling for a Warm TeabagEinsturzende Neubauten - Drawings Of OtEinsturzende Neubauten - Fuenf Auf Der Nach Oben Offenen RichterskalaEinsturzende Neubauten - Halber MenschEinsturzende Neubauten – Haus der LügeEinsturzende Neubauten - KollapsElectro Hippies - The Only Good Punk... Is A Dead OneEmbrace - EmbraceEnglish Dogs - Forward Into BattleExciter - Long Live the LoudExodus - Bonded By BloodExodus - Fabulous DisasterExtreme Noise Terror - A Holocaust in Your HeadF/i - Out of Space & Out of TimeF/I - Space MantraFaith No More - Introduce YourselfFaith No More - The Real ThingFear - The RecordFire Party - s/tfIREHOSE - Ragin', Full OnFishbone - Truth and SoulFlesheaters - A Minute To Pray A Second To DieFlipper - Generic FlipperFoetus Interruptus - ThawFugazi - FugaziFugazi - Margin WalkerFushitsusha - Live IGame Theory - Big Shot ChroniclesGeorge Thorogood & The Destroyers - Bad to the BoneGirl Trouble - Hit It or Quit ItGirlschool - Demolition Glenn Branca - Lesson No. 1Glenn Branca - The AscensionGodflesh - StreetcleanerGore - Mean Man’s DreamGrong Grong - S/TGuess Papers - We Got 'EmGuns N' Roses - Appetite For DestructionHalo of Flies - GarbageburnHalo Of Flies - Singles Going NowhereHanoi Rocks - Bangkok Shocks, Saigon Shakes, Hanoi Rocks Head Of David - DustbowlHead Of David - Head Of DavidHelios Creed - Superior Catholic FingerHelios Creed - The Last LaughHusker Du - Candy Apple GreyHusker Du - Flip Your WigHusker Du - Metal CircusHusker Du - New day RisingHusker Du - Zen ArcadeIcons of Filth - Onward Christian SoldiersIcons of Filth - Onward Christian SoldiersIggy Pop - InstinctIke Yard - s/tIron Maiden - KillersIron Maiden - Number Of The BeastIron Maiden - Piece of MindIron Maiden - PowerslaveIron Maiden - s/tJane's Addiction - Nothing's ShockingJim Carroll Band - Catholic BoyJim Carroll Band - Catholic BoyJoan Jett - Bad reputationJon Wayne - Texas FuneralJourney - DepartureJourney - EscapeJudas Priest - British SteelJudas Priest - Defenders of the FaithJudas Priest - Screaming For VengeanceKilldozer - Intellectuals Are The Shoeshine Boys Of The Ruling EliteKilldozer - Snake BoyKilling Joke - Killing JokeKilling Joke - Night TimeKilling Joke - What's THIS For...!Kilslug - Answer The CallKing Crimson - DisciplineKing Diamond - AbigailKix - Blow My FuseKix - s/tKreator - Pleasure To KillLast Exit - KölnLazy Cowgirls - Tapping the SourceLemonheads - Hate Your FriendsLime Spiders - HeadcleanerLita Ford - Out For BloodLive Skull - Bringing Home The BaitLive Skull - Cloud OneLive Skull - Don't Get Any on YouLive Skull - DustedLive Skull - S/TLiving Colour - VividLoop - Black SunLoop - The World in Your EyesLoop: - Fade Out Loverboy - Get LuckyLubricated Goat - Paddock Of LoveLyres - Lyres LyresMacabre - GloomManilla Road - Crystal LogicManilla Road - The DelugeManowar - Fighting The WorldManowar - Sign of the HammerMars - 78Massacre - Killing TimeMasters Of Reality- Masters Of RealityMayhem - DeathcrushMeat Puppets- IIMegadeth - Killing Is My Business... and Business Is Good!Megadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buying?Megadeth - So Far, So Good... So WhatMelvins - Gluey Porch TreatmentsMelvins - OzmaMercyful Fate - MelissaMetallica - ...And Justice For AllMetallica - Kill 'Em AllMetallica - Master of PuppetsMetallica - Ride The LightningMinistry - The Land of Rape and HoneyMinistry - The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To TasteMinistry - TwitchMinor Threat - Minor ThreatMinor Threat - out of stepMinutemen – Double Nickels on the DimeMinutemen - The Punch LineMinutemen - What Makes a Man Start Fires?Misfits - BewareMisfits - Earth AdMisfits - Legacy Of BrutalityMission of Burma - Signals, Calls, and MarchesMission of Burma - Vs.Monster Magnet - Forget About Life I'M High On DopeMorbid Angel - Altars Of MadnessMotley Crue - Dr. FeelgoodMotley Crue - Shout At The DevilMotley Crue - Too Fast For LoveMotorhead - Ace of SpadesMotorhead - Another Perfect DayMotorhead - OrgasmatronMudhoney - Superfuzz BigmuffMX-80 Sound - Out Of The TunnelMy Bloody Valentine - Isn't AnythingN.W.A. - Straight Outta ComptonNaked City - Naked CityNaked Raygun - JettisonNaked Raygun - Throb ThrobNapalm Death - From Enslavement To ObliterationNapalm Death - ScumNeil Young & Crazy Horse - Re*Ac*TorNeurosis - Pain of MindNew Model Army - No Rest for the WickedNick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Firstborn Is DeadNick Cave + the Bad Seeds - From Her to EternityNick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Your Funeral, My TrialNine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate MachineNirvana - BleachNitzer Ebb - ShowtimeNo Trend – When Death Won'T Solve Your ProblemNoMeansNo - WrongObituary - Slowly We RotOperation Ivy - EnergyPagans - Buried AlivePantera - Power MetalPaul Chain - Violet Art Of ImprovisationPaul Chain Violet Theatre - Detaching From Satan EPpil - flowers of romancePixies - Come On PilgrimPixies - DoolittlePixies - Surfer RosaPlasmatics - Beyond the Valley of 1984Plasmatics - Beyond the Valley of 1984plugz - better luckPoison - Open Up And Say...Ahhh!Poison Idea - Kings of PunkPop Group - For How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass MurderPossessed - Seven ChurchesPrimus - Suck On ThisProng - Force FedProng - 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HoleScraping Foetus Off The Wheel – NailScratch Acid - Just Keep EatingScratch Acid - s/t Screaming Trees - Buzz FactoryScreaming Trees - Even If & Especially WhenSeptic Death - Now That I Have the Attention, What Do I Do with It?Sepultura - Beneath the RemainsSisters Of Mercy - First And Last And AlwaysSisters of Mercy - Floodland Skid Row - Skid RowSkinny Puppy - Cleanse Fold And ManipulateSkinny Puppy - Mind: The Perpetual IntercourseSkinny Puppy - VIVIsectVISkullflower - Form DestroyerSlayer - Hell AwaitsSlayer - Reign in BloodSlayer - South Of HeavenSlint - TweezSlovenly - We Shoot For the MoonSnakefinger - Greener PosturesSnatches of Pink - Dead MenSocial Distortion - Mommy's Little MonsterSocial Distortion - Prison BoundSodom - Agent OrangeSonic Youth - Confusion Is SexSonic Youth - EvolSonic Youth - SisterSonny Sharrock - GuitarSore Throat - Death to Capitalist HardcoreSoul Asylum - Hang TimeSoundgarden - Louder Than LoveSoundgarden - Ultra Mega OKSpacemen 3 - Playing With FireSpacemen 3 - Sound of ConfusionSpacemen 3 - The Perfect PrescriptionSPK - Auto-Da-FeSPK - Auto-Da-FeSquirrel Bait - Skag HeavenSquirrel Bait - Squirrel BaitSteve Jones - Fire and GasolineStormtroopers of Death - Speak English or DieSuicidal Tendencies - S/TSuicide - Half AliveSwans - Children Of GodSwans - CopSwans - FilthSwans - Public Castration Is A Good IdeaSwans - S/TSwans - Young GodTerrorizer - World DownfallTest Dept. - Ecstacy Under DuressTestament - The LegacyTestament - The New OrderThe Birthday Party - Prayers on FireThe Crucifucks - s/tThe Crucifucks - s/tThe Cult - ElectricThe Cult - LoveThe Cynics - Blue Train Stationthe ex - 1936 spanish revolutionThe Fall - Hex Enduction HouirThe Fall - Perverted by LanguageThe Fall - This Nation's Saving GraceThe Fluid - Clear Black PaperThe Fuzztones - Lysergic EmanationsThe Gories - House Rockin'The Gun Club - Fire of LoveThe Gun Club - The Las Vegas StoryThe Jesus And Mary Chain - AutomaticThe Jesus And Mary Chain - PsychocandyThe Jesus Lizard - PureThe Left - Hell It's the EarthThe Left - Hell It's the EarthThe Lords of the New Church - The Method to Our MadnessThe Meatmen - We're The Meatmen...and You Suck!!The Misfits - Walk Among UsThe Nomads - OutburstThe Primitives - Lazy 86-88The Ramones - Pleasant DreamsThe Scientists - Blood Red RiverThe Screaming Blue Messiahs - GunshyThe Screaming Blue Messiahs - Totally ReligiousThe Sound -JeopardyThe Telescopes - TasteThe Wedding Present - BizarroThee Mighty Caesars - English Punk Rock ExplosionThin Lizzy - Thunder and LightningThin White Rope - MoonheadThis Heat - DeceitThree Johns - Atom Drum BopThrowing Muses - s/tThrowing Muses - The Real RamonaTin Machine - Tin MachineTrouble - Psalm 9TSOL - Change Today?Twisted Sister - Stay HungryUnion Carbide Productions - In the Air TonightUt - ConvictionVan Halen - 1984Van Halen - Women and Children FirstVenom - PossessedVenom - Welcome to HellVoid/Faith Split LPVoivod - Dimension HatrossVoivod - Killing TechnologyVoivod - NothingfaceWarrant - Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking RichWASP - WASPWhitesnake - Slip of the TongueWhitesnake - WhitesnakeWipers - Is This RealWipers - Over The EdgeWipers - Youth Of AmericaWitchfinder General - Death PenaltyWolfhounds - Bright & GuiltyX - Los AngelesX - Wild GiftY&T - Open FireYes - Big GeneratorYes - DramaYoung Gods - L'eau RougeYoung Gods - s/tZero Boys - Vicious CircleZoogz Rift - Amputees in LimboZZ Top - Eliminator
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 20 August 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
oh wait theres a few doubles there. Will fix up spreadsheet
Noone seems in favour of keeping the popmetal
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 20 August 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
thoughts?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 20 August 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
the rest of the glam stuff i wouldn't include
Why, though? Because pop invades too much?
I'm not sure equating "harshness" with "absence of pop" is something that holds up. Are the Pixies harsher than R.E.M. because they were less pop? It seems to me that they are included, then, merely because they might have been less committed to pop (and not necessarily more committed to anything else).
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
personally ive no problem with it being included even though i wont be voting for it.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 20 August 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
pixies were more pop than rem, also more corrosive, more interesting &c &c
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 August 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
i) I don't think it's fair to say that Tim is trolling! The points he's making seem fair to me.
ii) I don't think there's any way in which the Pixies were more pop than REM.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 20 August 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
Like, "rational" and "Dionysian" seem like pretty vague and subjective terms for what we're talking about. I've never thought of Flowers of Romance (or even Ragin' Full On, which I nominated, or the Rush albums) as "Dionysian".
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 20 August 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
oh come on his comments about rickenbackers that he repeats is trolling
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 20 August 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
'Are the Pixies harsher than R.E.M. because they were less pop?' is prima facie a stupid question
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 August 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
oh come on flowers of romance is dionysian as fuck
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 August 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
(Yet, weirdly, I kind of like including pop metal in an "80s music that rocks" poll! It does seem to complicate the definitions though, from an objective pov.)
xposts
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 20 August 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
i don't think it complicates definitions at all unless you labour under the misapprehension that there is some concrete and obtainable taxonomy of all god's musics
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 August 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
Who wants pop metal out?Who wants pop metal kept in?
Taste shouldn't be part of your decision.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 20 August 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
leave it in now
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 August 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
Y'all are some of the most pedantic motherfuckers I've ever encountered in my life.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 20 August 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not even participating in this anymore. Just observing from outside like looking at an ant farm.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 20 August 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
Hm, well, sorry if I was being pedantic. I didn't make the rules and was kind of curious about people's explanations for and arguments about them.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 20 August 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
this coming from the dude who was going on about bruce springsteen upthread xp
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 August 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
Just observing from outside like looking at an ant farm.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, August 20, 2012 6:02 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
that would be.....an ALIEN ant farm
(johnny are you ok, are you ok johnny?)
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 August 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
it's not really a farm though - more like a handful of ants people get to react by poking at them with a stick.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 20 August 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, August 20, 2012 9:54 AM (8 minutes ago)
I wasn't asking the question. I was trying to frame things that were included/excluded based on your definition of the parameters. "Harshness" was the only quality that seemed like it might have some conceivable application in the case of Pixies/R.E.M. (rational and Dionysian did not seem to).
If indeed "harshness" is the determining factor, then it seemed to me that this it is, precisely, the absence of pop that makes it so. You claim the Pixies were more "corrosive" - I don't know if I agree.
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
I may have said something about Springsteen not being eligible, but I never really lobbied on his behalf. My main beef with this whole endeavor is that the nominating process should be a time of inclusion (we all pretty much know what rock sounds like when we hear it, right?). Voting will be the time when things get excluded. If people disagree with your choices, that will all come out in the voting and no one has to chastise anyone else needlessly. AG's polls create some of the most dysfunction lines of thinking I've ever seen on ILM.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 20 August 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
i don't really give a fuck what is or isn't included in the sense of special pleading for this or that music in some poll on the internet
it can be interesting to argue these definitions though, and i don't think tim or sund4r are being /pedantic/ in that sense at all
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 August 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
― timellison, Monday, August 20, 2012 6:09 PM (5 minutes ago)
then harshness is the apt descriptor
pixies are clearly at the user friendly end of my spectrum there, so it is to be expected that they don't exemplify it as much as say, swans do
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 August 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
it can be interesting maddening to argue these definitions though
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 20 August 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
yeah but with respect i don't think you are that interested in music ~theoretically~
very few people are!
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 August 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
And I honestly think the Rickenbacker thing is valid. I saw R.E.M. many times in the '80s - once in '85 on a bill with True West. Given that we were talking about the Dream Syndicate earlier, maybe True West could stand in for them here. Who was more rocking that night - R.E.M. or True West?
I likewise saw a bill of the Three O'Clock and Thin White Rope in '87 and the same question applies.
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
REM begin that optimistic and communitarian tendency in indie music, their ideal form is a sort of dissenting church of indeterminately alienated, dull unhappy people who can find shared meaning in chiming guitars and plaintive 'cryptic' lyrics that speak to the them alone and them altogether
both them and the pixies draw quite heavily mission of burma, probably
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 August 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link
You claim the Pixies were more "corrosive" - I don't know if I agree.
― timellison, Monday, August 20, 2012 10:09 AM (6 minutes ago)
surfer rosa is way more corrosive than anything REM ever put out. that does seem to be part of what's at work in defining the umbrella here: transgression, noise, against-ness. all the destructive, chaotic, foam-flecked impulses nakh invoked in mentioning the "dionysian". that plus close relation to a few related genres: heavy metal, hard rock, punk/hc, and a "rock & roll" tradition that runs from chuck berry up through the white stripes. indie gets a place at the table, but only so long as it shares more in common with those genres & impulses than with pop. there's also an unstated macho element to this vague definition.
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link
'transgression' is such an overused idiot word in 2012, almost as bad as 'radical', but in the distant 1980s most of this music was, or seemingly wished to be transgressive
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 August 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
"harshness" is more an aesthetic judgement than a quality per se. I'd settle for "intense" even though we're splitting hairs here. but you also have to examine the reasons why a band might seem more intense. bands that rock harder, that play their instruments more aggressively, vigorously, loudly and dynamically than other bands are going to seem more intense (or, to a pop fan, possibly harsher). intensity doesn't imply an absence of pop so much as it implies a commitment to rock at the very least equal to the commitment to pop. very simply, the Pixies rock harder than R.E.M. (though not by much, admittedly), and to a dedicated pop fan may seem harsher as a result. the Pixies are an interesting example, though, because I would say that they are as dedicated to pop as they are to rock, which is not the case for many of the bands on this list. imagining rock and pop occupying opposing corners on a sliding scale is helpful, and I think the Pixies are just a tad over the rock line, close to the center, while R.E.M. are perhaps an equal distance away from the center on the pop side of the scale. this abstraction is obviously a bit simplistic and YMMV.
― Hellhouse, Monday, 20 August 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
and contenderizer re ar kane upthread, 69 is indeed probably a bit too somnolent and detached for inclusion here, but their early eps certainly qualify
'lollita' and 'sadomasochism is a must' are trying at being ~transgressive~, trying too hard perhaps
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 August 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link
Naw, R.E.M. had a tougher rhythm section.
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
which REM tracks should we be listening to here/
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 August 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not a fan of either band, tbh, but I don't think is true. R.E.M. are definitely lighter on guitars, and as a band, their dynamics are generally far more subdued. as I said, I think the Pixies rock harder than R.E.M., but not by a lot. if you genuinely think that R.E.M.'s rhythm section rocks harder, I don't have a major trump card to disprove this notion ("Gigantic", perhaps).
― Hellhouse, Monday, 20 August 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link
"Radio Free Europe," "Pretty Persuasion," "Second Guessing," "Little America," "Feeling Gravitys Pull," "Auctioneer," "Begin the Begin," "These Days," "Just a Touch," "Windout," "Finest Worksong," "Fireplace," etc.
There's a heaviness to the rhythm section (i.e., bass and drums and sometimes guitar too!) and a sort of feeling of playing in the pocket that comes from hard rock.
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link
that plus close relation to a few related genres: heavy metal, hard rock, punk/hc, and a "rock & roll" tradition that runs from chuck berry up through the white stripes.
Again, Chuck Berry but not Buddy Holly, etc.
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
well yeah
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
"harshness" is more an aesthetic judgement than a quality per se.
where the early pixies stuff is concerned, "harshness" = suddenly shrieking really fucking loudly in the midst of what might otherwise pass for a pleasant indie pop song. this tactic aligns them with the weird, noisy, transgressive-aggressive, antipop sensibility that this poll seems organized around.
Chuck Berry but not Buddy Holly, etc.
i say yes cuz the implied line runs from chuck berry and jerry lee lewis to the ramones and motorhead
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link
There are no subjects more transgressive than the apocalypse ("It's the End of the World as We Know It," "Fireplace").
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
haw!
right i am relistening to radio free europe, which is a nice song for sure
the rhythm section is insistent enough but absolutely nothing else about, everything is perfectly controlled and pellucid and good-spirited and clean-lined
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 August 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
I would characterize these tracks as light rock. they're spirited but not particularly loud or aggressive, and as such don't really have a place in a poll covering the most rocking tracks. the tempos and dynamics are rock-ish, but the guitars and vocals are pure pop. are you honestly suggesting that these tracks are among the most rocking tracks of the 80s? or simply that they deserve to be categorized as rock?
― Hellhouse, Monday, 20 August 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
I'm saying that they have a heavier rhythm section than other things included in the poll.
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
idk, "harshness" is too closely associated with distaste, which is why I prefer "intensity". those really fucking loud shrieks may sound harsh to Tim, but I usually find these episodes of noise to be invigorating. I think that we're probably on the same page w/r/t where the Pixies stand in relation to the rest of the bands in this poll.
― Hellhouse, Monday, 20 August 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
And that heavier rhythm sections and groove used to be a determining factor in establishing how much things rocked, c.f. Brownsville Station, Grand Funk, etc.
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
well, this may be true. and perhaps The Dream Syndicate should also be excluded, or REM should be included. the discussion is a bit pointless, though, because in a poll where people are voting for the most rocking tracks, no one IMO is realistically going to be voting for either. The REM/Dream Syndicate line is thin and arbitrary, admittedly, but if AG is going to draw a line, then any bands abutting this line are fodder for this discussion no matter where it's drawn.
― Hellhouse, Monday, 20 August 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think we're being asked to vote for the most rocking tracks. I think we're being asked to vote for our favorite tracks where our fondness for them has something to do with how much they rock.
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
this is a major factor, but not certainly not the only one. and really, R.E.M.'s rhythm section, compared to those found in most of the other bands on this list, is fairly weak. it's not as though R.E.M. have a commanding, legendary rhythm section and are being denied simply because their guitars and vocals are tepid. on occasion, R.E.M. can rock and put down a groove, but this is not the band's raison d'etre. R.E.M. make nice, hummable pop tunes that are occasionally animated enough to be called "rock", but this puts them, at best, at the margin of this poll.
― Hellhouse, Monday, 20 August 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
hellhouse otm
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
lol haven't looked on this thread in a while and tim is still flogging his REM hobbyhorse
― some dude, Monday, 20 August 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
Well, I was making a different point this time...
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
― timellison, Monday, August 20, 2012 7:36 PM (40 minutes ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUZ5VgcMY88
― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, 20 August 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
I think in this particular case, we're being asked to find tracks where our fondness for them has everything to do with how much they rock. this is merely my understanding. I'm not barring R.E.M., and I'm not running the poll, so ultimately I can't say. but, again, I think that we're being asked for tracks and albums that we love precisely because we think they rock hard. I also think that part of the problem, at least for the older voters, is that there was a moment in the early 80s when the twee/neurotic stylings of REM and Beat Happening and the Feelies ran so counter to the mainstream notions of rock generally and masculinity specifically, that they scanned as "punk", and were imagined, somewhat ironically, as being more aggressive than they were. there may be a tension in this poll in terms of using the criteria of the 80s vs. using today's criteria to evaluate these bands (and IMO, the perception of these bands, outside of that particular historical context, has changed markedly, and they are no longer really seen as aggro).
― Hellhouse, Monday, 20 August 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link
R.E.M.'s rhythm section, compared to those found in most of the other bands on this list, is fairly weak.
I look at the list and I see a lot of bands that were a lot less grounded in '70s rock than R.E.M. And I don't know what they might have been more grounded in. And when I see the Fall and lots of others, I think, "Gimme a break."
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
The Feelies "rocked" when they wanted to.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 20 August 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
the Fall? this is a huge plate of challops. they're well known for having an aggressive, driving rhythm section that lunges and lurches and swings. and regardless of R.E.M.'s 70s inspirations, the music they actually produced for the most part doesn't really rock. perhaps in a live setting, when the music is naturally louder and heavier, and the dynamics more intense, they actually rock. but the records they put out are fairly tame. I doubt anyone here has anything to say that will convince you, though.
― Hellhouse, Monday, 20 August 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
true. but I'm generalizing about bands perceived as twee. I'm not really looking to hash it out over the Feelies.
― Hellhouse, Monday, 20 August 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
fair enough. This whole thing is so absurd.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 20 August 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
The Fall rocked harder when Simon Wolstencroft joined. Why? Because he was a better, more solid drummer. This was when they became more of a pop band.
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
the problem, tim, is that you seem to be using a fairly technical and traditional definition of rock music, and this poll seems to be centered more around a cluster of less traditional ideas and attitudes.
it's easy enough, i think, to assume that something unites the weird, dark, aggressive, outré, challenging and antipop strains of 80s rock in such a way that a comprehensible circle can be drawn around motley crue, the pixies, the cramps, the fall, this heat, voivod and the swans - while at the same time excluding REM, the feelies, bruce springsteen and the pretenders. the pixies are definitely borderine in that construction, but like hellhouse says, there will always be disputes on the borderland...
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
the problem, i suppose is that once you've included, say, the cramps, the gun club and X, it becomes hard to justify excluding other bands who trade in rock americana. but personally, i can see the sense in putting those bands inside while keeping REM out. they may not rock harder according to your definition, but in their early days at least, they were rawer and wilder, more insistently aggressive and punk.
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
Are things like "Life and How to Live It" and "Fireplace" just not weird or dark in the right way?
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
I think I had the sense of R.E.M. having a sort of apocalyptic vision even before "It's the End of the World as We Know It," but that made it explicit. ("I'm Gonna DJ" did later, too, of course.) They used to close sets with it and on one later tour, probably '99 or so, they had this crazy light sculpture that was part of their set design. It was a bunch of iconographic images in lights and different images would light up throughout the set for different songs. Anyway, during "End of the World" all these images start flashing and it might sound obvious or something but it was genuinely one of the most palpably intense things I've ever seen.
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
― timellison, Monday, August 20, 2012 1:05 PM (22 minutes ago)
it's more a product of the overall tone of entire albums, stage presence & iconography, the manner in which the themes are approached, etc.
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
i mean, REM's basic approach to troublesome ideas is humanitarian concern. they don't give themselves over to the joy of annihilation.
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
there was a moment in the early 80s when the twee/neurotic stylings of REM and ... ran so counter to the mainstream notions of rock generally and masculinity specifically, that they scanned as "punk", and were imagined, somewhat ironically, as being more aggressive than they were.
This is interesting. How was e.g. Reckoning seen by mature listeners at the time? None of the antecedents for it seem like they should have been that unfamiliar. I remember hearing "So. Central Rain" and "Fall on Me" in 1989 and thinking they were kind of moody and arty but I was also 10 years old.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 20 August 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
these songs aren't weird or dark at all. the actual, physical sounds found on these songs are smooth, clean, bright, upbeat. I generally don't listen to lyrics, but in any event Michael Stipe's singing is likewise evenhanded and friendly and melodic. these are pop tunes built on a rock template. in the beginning of each tune, we get a little bit of lightly distorted guitar that quickly disappears once the songs are underway. rhythmically the socks technically rock, but even then not in a particularly aggressive fashion. R.E.M. never really bear down on a rhythm and push it. the songs have motion, but are never in any way chaotic. these tunes are quick and clean and jaunty. I'm not saying that they're bad, btw (although, again, I'm not a fan). Sonically, R.E.M. are content to make music that is occasionally upbeat and uptempo, but is never forceful in any way. in this way, the music feels a bit passive, even when the tempos are high.
― Hellhouse, Monday, 20 August 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
the "songs" technically rock, not "socks"
― Hellhouse, Monday, 20 August 2012 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
there was a moment in the early 80s when the twee/neurotic stylings of REM and Beat Happening and the Feelies ran so counter to the mainstream notions of rock generally and masculinity specifically, that they scanned as "punk", and were imagined, somewhat ironically, as being more aggressive than they were.
― Hellhouse, Monday, August 20, 2012 12:22 PM (1 hour ago)
yeah, like sund4r, i question this. it's definitely true of beat happening, and that kind of subversion was an explicit part of their approach. otoh, don't remember any similar reaction to REM and the feelies, and they don't seem to have had a similar intent.
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
I'm thinking more of the early- to mid-80s. I'm sure you've read accounts of the early days of many particular punk/postpunk scenes, when bands weren't so categorized, and the scene wasn't so fragmented and people would listen to just about anything as long as it was perceived as "punk" or "alternative" or whatever. Like, in the early 80s, you might buy a New Order record along with a Black Flag record and an R.E.M. record, and yet there was no perception of eclecticism. these bands were played on the same radio stations, performed at the same venues, and their records were found in the same sections in the same stores, and therefore it was easier to imagine an aesthetic continuity, even if it was only a vague, anti-mainstream sentiment.
― Hellhouse, Monday, 20 August 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
i get your point now, and i think it's valid. beat happening were more extreme, but yeah, REM and the smiths were embraced not as "punk" exactly, but as an "intelligent alternative" to the then-mainstream conception of what rock music could/should be.
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, I totally get the "intelligent alternative" thing.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 20 August 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
before the Internet, obviously, different scenes were genuinely different. I grew up in a relatively conservative, middle-class suburb, and even light fare like R.E.M. had quasi-"punk" cache, so to speak. I can see, though, how your experience might be very different. also, I think once Husker Du and the Replacements signed to the majors ('85), "underground" music became increasingly segmented.
― Hellhouse, Monday, 20 August 2012 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i agree that they had quasi punk cachet, but i think it was more a product of their presumed intelligence than the subversive quality of their relative gentleness
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link
though, sure, that too
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
even the "relative gentleness" was seen as being aggressively anti-jock, which translated into a countercultural ethos of sorts.
― Hellhouse, Monday, 20 August 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
these songs aren't weird or dark at all.
Obviously, I don't agree. It feels to me like someone is telling me that Stravinsky is weird and dark and Chopin is not.
Also, if we're talking about weakness - and we seem to be, R.E.M. as "light fare" etc. - isn't something like early Swans inherently weak? Like a depiction of weakness is the actual point? They may be hitting the drums hard but it's like the last semi-violent outburst that you stumble into before you fall down and die.
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i agree w that. was a big part of the initial attraction for me, tbh.
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
― timellison, Monday, August 20, 2012 2:31 PM
yeah, but they're presenting weakness and self-negation in such an extreme fashion that they become deeply transgressive attacks. and the music is not just loud, but brutally violent. there's something odd about your unwillingness to acknowledge this.
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
What I'm unwilling to acknowledge is that it has anything to do with how much it rocks.
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, but "rocks" can be defined any number of ways. it's not a term with an absolute, unchanging definition. shouldn't be too hard to adapt to the definition at work here, i don't think, even if it runs counter to your own.
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think the qualification for this poll has anything to do with whether something rocks, because obviously many things that rock have been disqualified. I think there is a certain sensibility that the organizers are after, but saying that something "rocks" doesn't really describe it at all.
― o. nate, Monday, 20 August 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
It's called "80s Albums That Rock Poll."
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link
May sort this out: What does it mean for a piece of music to "rock"?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 20 August 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
but "rocks" can be defined any number of ways.
Well, there's debate about it, sure, but obviously we don't have to leave it completely open. I saw Swans live once and would have thought it unusual if I'd have heard someone talking about how much it rocked afterwards.
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
I mean, "to rock" doesn't really have any technical meaning afaik (even in the way that "to swing" does) so I can't really get too worked up about that particular issue, even if I do think there are questions to be raised about for this poll.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 20 August 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
That was mangled "... there are questions that could be raised about this poll"
Also, tbh, I've loved 80s REM since first hearing them at 10 but I've personally never thought of them as a hard-rocking band in any case so fixating on them in particular can seem a little curious.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 20 August 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
like personally, for me, the term "rocks" should be reserved for upbeat, aggressive, and somewhat pop-minded stuff that falls somewhere along this line:
chuck berry/jerry lee lewis --> sonics/star club beatles --> ramones/dolls/motorhead --> nirvana/white stripes
like hitting hard, moving fast, getting people up on their feet, and wrecking the room in a more-or-less accessible fashion. not too light to cause damage, but not too heavy to maneuver quickly.
that definition definitely excludes dark & arty weirdness like swans, flowers of romance and this heat, but it also excludes a lot of superheavy and thrashy shit that seems far too harsh and generally uncatchy to really rock properly, imo. nor is it too friendly toward the kinder, gentler stuff tim is advocating for. but try to set my prejudices aside for this poll, cuz i'm not in the driver's seat.
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 22:14 (twelve years ago) link
FYI, the track poll is called "the most rockingest tracks of the 1980s". I can agree that R.E.M. are a rock band, but they are certainly not among "the most rockingest" bands of the 80s. Also, AG states in the opening that he's looking for albums/tracks at the "rockier end of indie/Alternative rock."
seriously, what is your opinion of R.E.M.? would you honestly say that they're one of the most rocking bands of the 80s? and do you just want the band to be included in the poll, or are you looking for recognition that they're a heavy rock band? what exactly are you looking for?
― Hellhouse, Monday, 20 August 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
I'm looking for more nominations and participants!! haha
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 20 August 2012 22:18 (twelve years ago) link
Enjoying the discussion though. It's interesting.
that he's looking for albums/tracks at the "rockier end of indie/Alternative rock."
Sure, but that's the very thing we've been debating and the discussion has encompassed many bands nominated.
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
you haven't answered the question. what is your opinion of R.E.M.?
― Hellhouse, Monday, 20 August 2012 22:24 (twelve years ago) link
some of these criteria of rock put 'radio free europe' well ahead of 'back in black'
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 20 August 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link
i think that discussion may be more suited for the tracks poll.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 20 August 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
― glumdalclitch, Monday, 20 August 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
This discussion has made me realize that I actually think it's awesome that AG has made up his own genre and is polling it.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 20 August 2012 22:46 (twelve years ago) link
Nah that would put me in the same league as Chuck. I'm not worthy.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 20 August 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
I can agree that the meaning of "rock" isn't self-evident or unchanging. you know, one of the ironies of this discussion is that many of the heavy "arty" bands like Sonic Youth and Swans did not consider themselves rock bands and in fact vehemently denied that they were such. iirc, a number of punk and postpunk bands explicitly claimed to be "anti-rock". again, this is a sort of tension in the poll between how bands were seen in their historical context and how they're viewed now. a lot of the discussion then, however, was wrapped up in the very tired and stereotypical rock cliches that were still being aggressively peddled by mainstream rock bands.
― Hellhouse, Monday, 20 August 2012 22:52 (twelve years ago) link
tracks poll has way more noms than albums poll btw.I suggest you all look through your record/cd/mp3 collections and find stuff that you would want to vote for just to avoid "oh noone nominated...."
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 20 August 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
hellhouse please tell me who you previously posted as! i cant work it out.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 20 August 2012 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
Naw, I'm into it. And I vote to leave pop metal in.
3xpost
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 20 August 2012 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
How about if I answer your second question, which was a little more specific?
would you honestly say that they're one of the most rocking bands of the 80s?
Occasionally, yes, but maybe not according to the way that you framed it - records where "our fondness for them has everything to do with how much they rock." That strikes me as a bit of a tall order. Not everyone's going to be voting for Motorhead or something and most of the records on the list add something else to the equation.
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link
"hesher music" seems like a good enough proxy for rock that would comfortably exclude REM, if that's the goal.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 20 August 2012 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
tim im quite happy for rem's rockiest tracks to be nominated in the tracks poll. But none of the 'big' songs seem appropriate. But im sure there will be suitable 'deep cuts' that qualify. If they dont then others will point it out.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 20 August 2012 22:58 (twelve years ago) link
hesheris an american term not used here but doesn't it just mean metal? because this is not a metal poll.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 20 August 2012 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
i think there's definitely a metal leaning but i feel like a hesher's spiral-bound notebook would also have zeppelin, ac/dc logos on it in ball point pen along with some dragons or a barbarian with a mace.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 20 August 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
It's kind of a metal poll in the Stairway to Hell way.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 20 August 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
Definition of a 'rocking' band: One that might conceivably have done a "Johnny B Goode" cover version.
So, that even includes the Sex Pistols, by default.
― Mark G, Monday, 20 August 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
like the closest an REM album cover comes to dragons or mace-wielding barbarians is monster, which is appropriately their most "rocking" album?
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 20 August 2012 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
yeah but a lot would say their worst
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 20 August 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
how do R.E.M. rock in ways which have not been framed? also, this "tall order" is IMO the premise of the poll. and, yes, I agree that many of the bands add something else; often this something else takes the form of conceptual/creative aggression. that is to say, many of the "arty" bands in this list are aggressively, even violently, pushing against conventional rock forms, which is in and of itself scans as a "rock" gesture (aggressive anti-rock as rock, with Neubauten probably being the best example of a band that "rocks" in this fashion, although their inclusion, with a few notable exceptions, admittedly stretches the definition of rock being used).
― Hellhouse, Monday, 20 August 2012 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
Fables of the Reconstruction has a burning book and a weird swinging object with the image of an ear on it behind a curtain.
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
ok if hellhouse wont say who he is i just have to assume hes BJO
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 20 August 2012 23:13 (twelve years ago) link
how do R.E.M. rock in ways which have not been framed?
No, I was just saying that their music is never rock in a really black and white sense, but that that's also true of most artists on the poll.
― timellison, Monday, 20 August 2012 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
conceptual/creative aggressive that is employed sonically.
― Hellhouse, Monday, 20 August 2012 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
ugh, "aggression" not "aggressive", fuck it, I need a break.
― Hellhouse, Monday, 20 August 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
Watching Patti Smith (band) on Rockpalast, rightnow.
They rocking band, question.
― Mark G, Monday, 20 August 2012 23:23 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM-IGFv-knI
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link
― Philip Nunez, Monday, August 20, 2012 3:56 PM (29 minutes ago)
doesn't really work here, cuz whatever definition we are using has to allow room for shit like swans, this heat, PIL, etc.
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 23:28 (twelve years ago) link
"hesher music" as enjoyed by a drug-addled metalhead with a taste for arty extremes
― Mark G, Monday, August 20, 2012 4:02 PM (26 minutes ago)
this is pretty much my definition, sharpened to: "might conceivably have done a respectable 'johnny b goode' and have had it fit in comfortably with their own original material."
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 23:32 (twelve years ago) link
no embeds pleasexps
ps tee-total non-drug taking metalhead with a taste for arty extremes here
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 20 August 2012 23:33 (twelve years ago) link
dangit, sorry AG, i forgot
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 23:35 (twelve years ago) link
but it's pretty funny, so i'm only sort of sorry
well it stops others opening the thread who might nominate or want to take part in the discussion.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 20 August 2012 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
cursed tubes
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 23:42 (twelve years ago) link
always stopping all this discussion
its because on some computers the thread loads to slowly or crashes completely if there's lots of youtubes.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 20 August 2012 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
i know, AG, and will be good to the best of my (admittedly limited) ability
― contenderizer, Monday, 20 August 2012 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
good
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 00:15 (twelve years ago) link
Anyone want to nominate anything?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 00:27 (twelve years ago) link
Autopsy - Severed SurvivalReagan Youth - Volume 1
― Raoul Duke (ku4u1u), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 00:57 (twelve years ago) link
Zeni Geva - Maximum Love + Fuck
― Hellhouse, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 02:37 (twelve years ago) link
<b>Bad Religion - No Control</b>
― Marty Innerlogic, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 10:23 (twelve years ago) link
Eh...Bad Religion - No Control
if y'all are still taking noms:Nuclear Assault - Game OverStretchheads - Five Fingers, Four Thingers...Caroliner Rainbow Hernia Milk Queen - Rear End Hernia Puppet Show Caroliner Rainbow Stewed Angel Skins - I'm Armed With Quarts of Blood Pussy Galore - Right Now!David Thomas and the Pedestrians - The Sound of the SandDog Faced Hermans Every Day Timebomb
― iglu ferrignu, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 13:14 (twelve years ago) link
yep,thanks!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:20 (twelve years ago) link
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 10:39 (twelve years ago) link
and again
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 23 August 2012 00:52 (twelve years ago) link
Destruction - Eternal Devastation
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 23 August 2012 06:12 (twelve years ago) link
Any more?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 23 August 2012 10:59 (twelve years ago) link
I think I'm done w/the albums, but I prob. have a few more tracks to add before Sat. (so plz don't close the poll early)
― Hellhouse, Thursday, 23 August 2012 14:22 (twelve years ago) link
ohrollins band - do itnomeansno - you kill me
― iglu ferrignu, Thursday, 23 August 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
"hesher music" as enjoyed by a drug-addled metalhead with a taste for arty extremesI was idly thinking that this could be seen perhaps as a sort of 'rock' that can be traced back to roots in Who/Kinks/Cream/Hendrix/Zeppelin/Sabbath as opposed to the traditional canon that would also include Buddy Holly, Dylan, the Byrds, the Band, (Beatles and Stones even?), etc. I think the noise and improv elements still make sense in this context.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 23 August 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
If we're talking about why, say, Springsteen is excluded, though, then you would also have say that this is all to the exclusion of the historical lineage from the Brill Building and Phil Spector. If you frame it as "Buddy Holly, Dylan, the Byrds, the Band," I suppose it makes it seem like it's the soft stuff that's being excluded as precedents, but it seems to me that it's also Roy Orbison, Del Shannon, Bobby Fuller, etc.
― timellison, Thursday, 23 August 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago) link
I think we're basically talking about "hard rock" and its various offshoots. Wikipedia describes it pretty well:
Hard rock is a form of loud, aggressive rock music. The electric guitar is often emphasised, used with distortion and other effects, both as a rhythm instrument using repetitive riffs with a varying degree of complexity, and as a solo lead instrument.[2] Drumming characteristically focuses on driving rhythms, strong bass drum and a backbeat on snare, sometimes using cymbals for emphasis.[3] The bass guitar works in conjunction with the drums, occasionally playing riffs, but usually providing a backing for the rhythm and lead guitars.[4] Vocals are often growling, raspy, or involve screaming or wailing, sometimes in a high range, or even falsetto voice.[5] Hard rock has sometimes been labelled cock rock for its emphasis on overt masculinity and sexuality and because it has historically been predominately performed and consumed by men: in the case of its audience, particularly white, working-class adolescents.[3]
― o. nate, Thursday, 23 August 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link
I still think the distinctions are more sociological than that. Like Buddy Holly is out but Carl Perkins is in because he sounds like more of a hillbilly. Doesn't have anything to do with how rocking their records are.
― timellison, Thursday, 23 August 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link
Perkins has more of a blues-influence I think. Hard rock has more of the blues, soft rock is more influenced by folk.
― o. nate, Thursday, 23 August 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
Perkins probably has more blues AND more country than Holly - so what? Holly is excluded for being more of an innovator? His records are just as rocking as Perkins', perhaps more. And they are based in blues and country, not in folk.
― timellison, Thursday, 23 August 2012 21:43 (twelve years ago) link
(Obviously, he made a couple of pop recordings with an arranger also. I'm talking about the Crickets records.)
― timellison, Thursday, 23 August 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
A reminder that Buddy Holly is not actually being excluded but is not present because he was not alive or recording music in the 1980s...
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Thursday, 23 August 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not that familiar with Holly to tell the truth. If he's more blues-oriented then I think he's in that lineage too.
― o. nate, Thursday, 23 August 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
and carl perkins is more of a line-straddler anyway. i'd frame it as buddy holly vs. chuck berry & jerry lee lewis, both of whom rock in a much more aggressive fashion.
― contenderizer, Thursday, 23 August 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link
Of '80s artists, I think someone like John Cougar Mellencamp, whom I mentioned before, is a borderline case. Clearly he had pop crossover appeal, but he also rocked pretty emphatically and had a strong blues influence. So I'm not sure what the call would be on him. Or Bon Jovi for that matter.
― o. nate, Thursday, 23 August 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
like, it's not just rocking vs not, the vibe being put across is important, too. at their most extreme, berry & lewis made raw, aggressive and libidinal music. it still sounds like bombs going off. maybe it's hard to hear the connection today, but i think of "great balls of fire" as the first punk rock song i ever really loved. there wasn't wasn't as much visceral threat or sexual swagger in buddy holly's rock.
― contenderizer, Thursday, 23 August 2012 21:58 (twelve years ago) link
I don't hear Chuck Berry as being much more aggressive than Holly. Bo Diddley certainly wasn't!
― timellison, Thursday, 23 August 2012 21:59 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, the vocals are important. They should swagger a bit. Frank Sinatra could be pretty punk rock too.
― o. nate, Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
subjective, of course. i do. (xp)
same probably applies to mellcamp and bon jovi. the sense of danger and violence in their music is very tame down compared with the metal, punk and hard rock of the era.
― contenderizer, Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not sure I agree. Some of the more extreme bands end up trying too hard, IMO. They sound more cartoonish than actually dangerous.
― o. nate, Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
The criteria do largely seem sonic to me but I'm pretty sure that framing it in terms of whether or not something 'rocks' will only lead us in circles. I do think that the bands I listed make sense as reference points in terms of prior influences/sources. I don't know that as much can be gained by tracing it back to the 50s, actually. (I can see a line from Who/Hendrix to Sonic Youth without too much difficulty but it gets blurrier if we start talking about Buddy Holly vs Chuck Berry.)
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
I AM very surprised that someone wouldn't hear Chuck Berry's sound as more aggressive than Buddy Holly's though!
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
The thing is, the Gories are allowed in the poll and the Jam are not.
― timellison, Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link
holly was ingratiating. he asked for a lady's hand and heart. he was nice about it, for the most part. he didn't often attack the beat with the ferocity that berry brings to "maybelline" and "johnny b. goode". he didn't sing about his ding-a-ling. he didn't wear a cobra snake for a necktie.
― contenderizer, Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link
"Johnny B. Goode" hangs back in the pocket, I think. It's not that aggressive. "Maybellene" is jaunty.
I think Holly made some pretty tough rockabilly with numbers like "That'll Be the Day" and "Oh Boy."
― timellison, Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:13 (twelve years ago) link
To get technical, Berry's guitar style also emphasized parallel motion (even in lead playing) with an overdriven sound, which you can see as a direct antecedent of power-chord riffing.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:13 (twelve years ago) link
I was idly thinking that this could be seen perhaps as a sort of 'rock' that can be traced back to roots in Who/Kinks/Cream/Hendrix/Zeppelin/Sabbath as opposed to the traditional canon that would also include Buddy Holly, Dylan, the Byrds, the Band, (Beatles and Stones even?), etc. I think the noise and improv elements still make sense in this context.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:15 PM (1 hour ago)
sund4r otm. also that it's probably a mistake to get caught up in hashing out the rockingness of 50s shit. the vision of rock that organizes this poll does seem descended from the late 60s and especially the 70s: a combination of masculinity, aggression, intensity, noise, experimentation, and aspiration to the status of art.
― contenderizer, Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:14 (twelve years ago) link
plus 70s punk + 80s metal
― contenderizer, Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:15 (twelve years ago) link
But, really, if you hear "Oh Boy" as equally or more aggressive than "Johnny B. Goode", I'm not sure how to convince you tbh.
xpost to self
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:15 (twelve years ago) link
Part of my point was that 70s punk and 80s metal BOTH seem to owe something to the influences I cited.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, agree - was just extending forward from the late 60s/early-mid 70s examples
― contenderizer, Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:18 (twelve years ago) link
I think "Johnny B. Goode" is fairly subtle, really. He plays muted rhythm guitar, it hangs back in the pocket, etc. I mean, sure, there's some raunch in the leads. The Crickets had some raunch as well.
― timellison, Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
He projects more as a singer, too.
― timellison, Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:22 (twelve years ago) link
(Berry, that is.)
In any case, contenderizer was right re what I was getting at:
also that it's probably a mistake to get caught up in hashing out the rockingness of 50s shit. the vision of rock that organizes this poll does seem descended from the late 60s and especially the 70s: a combination of masculinity, aggression, intensity, noise, experimentation, and aspiration to the status of art
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 23 August 2012 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
Comparing the versions of "Brown Eyed Handsome Man" by Berry and Holly is interesting, by the way. There doesn't seem to be any notable distinction with regard to how much either version rocks. Berry sings it with more of a croon, actually, while Holly has his rockabilly singing style. Berry's version swings a little more, but Holly's is faster.
― timellison, Friday, 24 August 2012 00:16 (twelve years ago) link
hehe what a strange diversion
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 24 August 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 25 August 2012 10:22 (twelve years ago) link
closes sunday night 11.59pm now. if a kindly mod could change both thread titles that would be awesome.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 25 August 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
You want it changed from midnight to 11:59 p.m.?
― Bobby-fil-A (WmC), Saturday, 25 August 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
yes please! Just so everyone knows it finishes sat night now instead of sunday morning.
Thanks very much WmC and sorry to be a nuisance
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 25 August 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
sunday night it finishes now i mean haha
Current thread title is "Sunday night midnight" -- you want a one minute change?
― Bobby-fil-A (WmC), Saturday, 25 August 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
A whole minute?
yes because it looked like it finished 24 hours earlier
thanks!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 25 August 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
that's insane
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Saturday, 25 August 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
what, letting ppl know the nominations have been extended 24 hours?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 25 August 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
agk, you're sure you've never done any drugs?
― how's life, Saturday, 25 August 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
...but who am i to say
ALBUMS THAT ROCK:
The Reverb Motherfuckers - Route 666The Honeymoon Killers - Turn Me On
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Saturday, 25 August 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
oh, I see where you got that idea
just so we're on the same page, this closes in roughly 9 hours, right?― Hellhouse, Saturday, August 25, 2012 1:26 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinknah will make it tomorrow night― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:29 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Hellhouse, Saturday, August 25, 2012 1:26 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
nah will make it tomorrow night
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:29 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― how's life, Saturday, 25 August 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
BLAME HELLHOUSE!
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Saturday, 25 August 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
yes, that is exactly why I asked
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 25 August 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
hellhouse is a shit-stirrer
― how's life, Saturday, 25 August 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago) link
and he wont tell anyone who he is
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 25 August 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
one minute?!?!
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Saturday, 25 August 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
no, 23 hours and 59 minutes ACTUALLY
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 25 August 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
Fates Warning - Perfect Symmetry
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 25 August 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
Think we're lacking a bit in noisy indie rock/pigfuck type stuff.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 25 August 2012 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
Sonny Sharrock Band - Seize the Rainbow
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 25 August 2012 21:58 (twelve years ago) link
no one likes that stuff
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Saturday, 25 August 2012 21:59 (twelve years ago) link
lol, pig fuckery, not sonny sharrock
(was on the Aug 1 list but not the most recent list.)
Also, someone nominated Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation but it does not show up on the most recent list.)
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
(xpost to self re Seize the Rainbow)
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 25 August 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
ahh ok. need to fix it
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 26 August 2012 00:47 (twelve years ago) link
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 26 August 2012 12:43 (twelve years ago) link
8 Eyed Spy - s/tBitch Magnet - Star BootyDustdevils - GutterlightDustdevils - Is Big LeggyPrimitive Calculators - s/tSonic Youth - The Walls Have Ears
― Hellhouse, Sunday, 26 August 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
keep em coming
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 26 August 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link
Morsure - Acceleration Process
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 26 August 2012 22:08 (twelve years ago) link
Is "pigfuck" just a catchall for the noisy end of 80s indie: Big Black, Buttholes, Scratch Acid, Jesus Lizard, ...?
Except for straight-up 80s hc shit, the music covered by this poll lines up pretty well with my own tastes and personal listening history in 80s guitar rck.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 26 August 2012 22:10 (twelve years ago) link
rock
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 26 August 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
prob. no one cares, but this rec that I nominated-
F/i - Out of Space and Out of Time
should be taken off. it came out in ’93, and I don’t really think the contenderizer/Avengers rule applies, tbh.
if you could add this instead -
/stupid list shit
― Hellhouse, Sunday, 26 August 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks to all who nominated. Nominations are now closedhowever I need to clean up the spreadsheet and double-check everything so if anyone didn't see this thread or has late nominations then you have 30 mins (5pm UK time)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 27 August 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
Do we allow The Cure - Pornography?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 27 August 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
im a bit more open to allowing it now tbh. If jf can show me a rocking track from the 1st pretenders i'll allow them too
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 27 August 2012 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
if there's a rocking Siouxsie album i'll include it too
no springsteen (who i love) or petty though.
and fuck it, Murmur is in
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 27 August 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
unless there's a more rocking rem
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 27 August 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, August 27, 2012 12:20 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UaDlZr_Crs
― some dude, Monday, 27 August 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
i've included it anyway but thanks.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 27 August 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
any excuse to rep for that song tbh
― some dude, Monday, 27 August 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
I added Fables of the Reconstruction instead of murmur since someone nominated it
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 27 August 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
Haha, after all of that, the moodiest REM album makes it in?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
If i allow a U2should it be Boy or War
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 27 August 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
Why open it up now after restricting things so much during the nomination process? And if you're thinking of allowing REM, U2, and the Cure, why not also just throw in Springsteen, Petty, the Police, etc?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
think AG is just trying to be fair, and there's no cause to re-do the whole nominations process. including most everything that did get nominated seems like a reasonable compromise.
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
if people are gonna cause a fuss i will remove them all. so dont spoil my good mood, ok?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 27 August 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
I just hope that those who do vote for these albums will do large ballots and vote for plenty of noisy/heavier stuff too. It's important the results just aren't a rolling stone doppelgänger poll.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 27 August 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
no offense, but i think you need to show a little more faith in the electorate
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Monday, 27 August 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
Right, this is what we have as of now.
7 Seconds - Walk Together, Rock Together8 Eyed Spy - s/tAC/DC - Back in BlackAdolescents - AdolescentsAerosmith - PumpAgent Orange - Living in DarknessAlice Donut - Bucketfulls of Sickness and Horror in an Otherwise Meaningless Life Amebix - AriseAmebix - MonolithAngry Samoans - Back From SamoaAnnihilator -Alice In HellAnthrax - Among The LivingAnthrax- Spreading The DiseaseAppliances-SFB - SFBAtheist - Piece Of TimeAutopsy - Severed SurvivalAvengers - AvengersBad Brains - Bad BrainsBad Brains - I Against IBad Brains - s/tBad Religion - No ControlBad Religion - SufferBand of Susans - Love AgendaBand of Susans- Hope Against HopeBastro - Diablo GuapoBathory - Blood Fire DeathBathory - Under The Sign Of The Black MarkBauhaus - Burning From The InsideBauhaus - In The Flat FieldBauhaus - MaskBauhaus - The Sky'S Gone OutBig Black - AtomizerBig Black - Songs About FuckingBig Boys/Dicks - Recorded Live at Raul's ClubBilly Idol - Rebel YellBirthday Party - JunkyardBitch Magnet - Star BootyBitch Magnet - UmberBlack Flag - DamagedBlack Flag - In My HeadBlack Flag - Jealous AgainBlack Flag - My WarBlack Flag - Slip It InBlack Sabbath - Heaven And HellBlack Sabbath - Mob RulesBlind Idiot God - s/tBlind Idiot God - UndertowBlue Oyster Cult - Cultosaurus ErectusBolt Thrower - Realm Of ChaosBon Jovi - Slippery When WetBoredoms - Soul DischargeButthole Surfers - A Brown Reason To LiveButthole Surfers - Hairway to StevenButthole Surfers - Locust Abortion TechnicianButthole Surfers - Psychic... Powerless... Another Man'S SacButthole Surfers - Rembrandt PussyhorseCandlemass - Ancient DreamsCandlemass - Epicus Doomicus MetallicusCandlemass - Tales Of CreationCandlemass -NightfallCapt Beefheart - Doc at the Radar StationCapt Beefheart - Ice Cream for CrowCarcass - Symphonies of SicknessCaroliner Rainbow Hernia Milk Queen - Rear End Hernia Puppet ShowCaroliner Rainbow Stewed Angel Skins - I'm Armed With Quarts of BloodCelibate Rifles - The Turgid Miasma of ExistenceCeltic Frost - Into the PandemoniumCeltic Frost - Morbid TalesCeltic Frost - To Mega TherionCheap Trick - One On OneChristian Death - Only Theatre of PainChrome - Blood on the MoonChrome - Red ExposureChrome - Third From the SunCircle Jerks - Group SexCirith Ungol - Frost and FireCirith Ungol - King Of The DeadCoil - Horse RotorvatorCoil- ScatologyCondemned to Death - Diary of a Love MonsterCop Shoot Cop - Headkick FacsimileCoroner - No More ColorCoroner - Punishment for DecadenceCoroner - R.I.P.Corrosion of Conformity - AnimosityCosmic Psychos - Go the HackCouch Potatoes - Curiosity RocksCows - daddy has a tailCramps - Psychedelic JungleCramps - Smell Of FemaleCramps - Songs The Lord Taught UsCrash Course in Science - Signals from Pier 13Crass - christ - the albumCrass - Penis EnvyCrass - Yes Sir I WillCro-Mags - Best WishesCro-Mags - The Age of QuarrelCryptic Slaughter - Money TalksCurrent 93 - Dogs Blood RisingD.R.I. - CrossoverD.R.I. - Dealing With ItDAF - Die Kleinen und die BosenDag Nasty - Can I SayDanzig - DanzigDark Angel - Darkness DescendsDas Damen - MousetrapDas Damen - TriskaidekaphobeDavid Thomas and the Pedestrians - The Sound of the SandDead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotten VegetablesDead Milkmen - BeelzebubbaDeath - LeprosyDeath - Scream Bloody GoreDeath Angel - The Ultra-ViolenceDeath in June - Brown BookDeath In June - NadaDeath in June - The Guilty Have No PrideDeath In June - The World That SummerDef Leppard - High N DryDef Leppard - HysteriaDef Leppard - On Through the NightDef Leppard - PyromaniaDescendents - I Don't Want to Grow UpDescendents - Milo Goes To CollegeDestruction - Eternal DevastationDiamond Head - Lightning to the NationsDidjits - Hey JudesterDie Kreuzen - S/TDied Pretty - Free DirtDinosaur - S/TDinosaur Jr - BugDinosaur Jr - You're Living All Over MeDio - Holy DiverDio - Last In LineDischarge - Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say NothingDNA - A Taste of DNADog Faced Hermans - Humans FlyDog Faced Hermans Every Day TimebombDogs D'Amour - In the Dynamite Jet SaloonDream Syndicate - The Days of Wine and RosesDrunks with Guns - Drunks with GunsDustdevils - GutterlightDustdevils - Is Big LeggyDwarves - Horror StoriesDwarves - Tooling for a Warm TeabagEcho & The Bunnymen - CrocodilesEinsturzende Neubauten - Drawings Of OtEinsturzende Neubauten - Fuenf Auf Der Nach Oben Offenen RichterskalaEinsturzende Neubauten - Halber MenschEinsturzende Neubauten – Haus der LügeEinsturzende Neubauten - KollapsElectro Hippies - The Only Good Punk... Is A Dead OneEmbrace - EmbraceEnglish Dogs - Forward Into BattleExciter - Long Live the LoudExodus - Bonded By BloodExodus - Fabulous DisasterExtreme Noise Terror - A Holocaust in Your HeadF/I - Space MantraF/i - Why Not Now? Alan!Faith No More - Introduce YourselfFaith No More - The Real ThingFates Warning - Perfect SymmetryFear - The RecordFields Of The Nephilim - The NephilimFire Party - s/tfIREHOSE - Ragin', Full OnFishbone - Truth and SoulFlesheaters - A Minute To Pray A Second To DieFlipper - Generic FlipperFoetus Interruptus - ThawFugazi - FugaziFugazi - Margin WalkerFushitsusha - Live IGame Theory - Big Shot ChroniclesGeorge Thorogood & The Destroyers - Bad to the BoneGiant Sand - Valley Of RainGirl Trouble - Hit It or Quit ItGirlschool - Demolition Girlschool - Hit And RunGlenn Branca - Lesson No. 1Glenn Branca - The AscensionGodflesh - StreetcleanerGore - Mean Man’s DreamGorilla Biscuits - Start TodayGreen On Red - Gas Food LodgingGrong Grong - S/TGuess Papers - We Got 'EmGuns N' Roses - Appetite For DestructionHalo of Flies - GarbageburnHalo Of Flies - Singles Going NowhereHanoi Rocks - Bangkok Shocks, Saigon Shakes, Hanoi Rocks Happy Go Licky - S/THead Of David - DustbowlHead Of David - Head Of DavidHelios Creed - Superior Catholic FingerHelios Creed - The Last LaughHellhammer - Apocalyptic RaidsHellhammer - Satanic RitesHusker Du - Candy Apple GreyHusker Du - Flip Your WigHusker Du - Metal CircusHusker Du - New day RisingHusker Du - Zen ArcadeIcons of Filth - Onward Christian SoldiersIggy Pop - InstinctIke Yard - s/tIron Maiden - KillersIron Maiden - Number Of The BeastIron Maiden - Piece of MindIron Maiden - PowerslaveIron Maiden - s/tJane's Addiction - Nothing's ShockingJim Carroll Band - Catholic BoyJoan Jett - Bad reputationJon Wayne - Texas FuneralJourney - DepartureJourney - EscapeJudas Priest - British SteelJudas Priest - Defenders of the FaithJudas Priest - Screaming For VengeanceKilldozer - Intellectuals Are The Shoeshine Boys Of The Ruling EliteKilldozer - Intellectuals Are the Shoeshine Boys of the Ruling EliteKilldozer - Snake BoyKilling Joke - Killing JokeKilling Joke - Night TimeKilling Joke - What's THIS For...!Kilslug - Answer The CallKing Crimson - DisciplineKing Diamond - AbigailKix - Blow My FuseKix - s/tKreator - Pleasure To KillLast Exit - KölnLazy Cowgirls - Tapping the SourceLemonheads - Hate Your FriendsLime Spiders - HeadcleanerLita Ford - Out For BloodLive Skull - Bringing Home The BaitLive Skull - Cloud OneLive Skull - Don't Get Any on YouLive Skull - DustedLive Skull - S/TLiving Colour - VividLoop - Black SunLoop - Fade Out Loop - Heaven's EndLoop - The World in Your EyesLoverboy - Get LuckyLubricated Goat - Paddock Of LoveLyres - Lyres LyresMacabre - GloomManilla Road - Crystal LogicManilla Road - Open The GatesManilla Road - The DelugeManowar - Fighting The WorldManowar - Sign of the HammerMars - 78Massacre - Killing TimeMasters Of Reality- Masters Of RealityMayhem - DeathcrushMDC - Millions of Dead CopsMeat Puppets - HuevosMeat Puppets - MonsterMeat Puppets - Up On The SunMeat Puppets- IIMegadeth - Killing Is My Business... and Business Is Good!Megadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buying?Megadeth - So Far, So Good... So WhatMelvins - Gluey Porch TreatmentsMelvins - OzmaMercyful Fate - Dont Break The OathMercyful Fate - MelissaMetallica - ...And Justice For AllMetallica - Kill 'Em AllMetallica - Master of PuppetsMetallica - Ride The LightningMinistry - The Land of Rape and HoneyMinistry - The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To TasteMinistry - TwitchMinor Threat - Minor ThreatMinor Threat - out of stepMinutemen - Buzz or Howl Under the Influence of HeatMinutemen – Double Nickels on the DimeMinutemen - The Punch LineMinutemen - What Makes a Man Start Fires?Misfits - BewareMisfits - Earth AdMisfits - Legacy Of BrutalityMission of Burma - Signals, Calls, and MarchesMission of Burma - Vs.Monster Magnet - Forget About Life I'M High On DopeMorbid Angel - Altars Of MadnessMorsure - Acceleration ProcessMotley Crue - Dr. FeelgoodMotley Crue - Shout At The DevilMotley Crue - Too Fast For LoveMotorhead - Ace of SpadesMotorhead - Another Perfect DayMotorhead - OrgasmatronMudhoney - Superfuzz BigmuffMX-80 Sound - Out Of The TunnelMy Bloody Valentine - Isn't AnythingN.W.A. - Straight Outta ComptonNaked City - Naked CityNaked City - Torture GardenNaked Raygun - JettisonNaked Raygun - Throb ThrobNapalm Death - From Enslavement To ObliterationNapalm Death - ScumNeil Young - FreedomNeil Young & Crazy Horse - Re*Ac*TorNeurosis - Pain of MindNew Model Army - No Rest for the WickedNick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Firstborn Is DeadNick Cave + the Bad Seeds - From Her to EternityNick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Your Funeral, My TrialNine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate MachineNirvana - BleachNitzer Ebb - ShowtimeNo Trend – When Death Won'T Solve Your ProblemNoMeansNo - WrongNuclear Assault - Game OverNurse With Wound - Homotopy To MarieNurse With Wound - Soliloquy for LilithObituary - Slowly We RotOperation Ivy - EnergyOzzy Osbourne - Blizzard Of OzOzzy Osbourne - Diary Of A MadmanPagan Altar - Pagan AltarPagans - Buried AlivePantera - Power MetalPaul Chain - In The DarknessPaul Chain - Violet Art Of ImprovisationPaul Chain Violet Theatre - Detaching From Satan EPPentagram - Day Of ReckoningPentagram - Pentagrampil - flowers of romancePixies - Come On PilgrimPixies - DoolittlePixies - Surfer RosaPlasmatics - Beyond the Valley of 1984plugz - better luckPoison - Open Up And Say...Ahhh!Poison Idea - Kings of PunkPop Group - For How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass MurderPossessed - Seven ChurchesPrimitive Calculators - s/tPrimus - Suck On ThisProng - Force FedProng - Primitive OriginsPsychedelic Furs - Talk Talk TalkPsychic TV - A Pagan DayPsychic TV - Mouth of the NightPussy Galore - Dial 'M' for MotherfuckerPussy Galore - Right Now!Pussy Galore - Sugarshit SharpQueensryche - Operation: MindcrimeRadio Birdman - Living EyesRaging Slab - Raging SlabRamones - End of the CenturyRapeman - Two Nuns and a Pack MuleRaw Power - Screams From the GutterReagan Youth - Volume 1Red Hot Chili Peppers - Freaky StyleyRed Hot Chili Peppers - Mothers MilkRed Hot Chili Peppers - Uplift Mofo Party PlanRedd Kross - NeuroticaREM - Fables of the ReconstructionRepulsion - HorrifiedRhys Chatham - Die DonnergotterRites Of Spring - End on EndRoyal Trux - Royal TruxRudimentary Peni - Death ChurchRush - Moving PicturesSaccharine Trust - Pagan IconsSaccharine Trust-Surviving You, AlwaysSacrifice - Forward To TerminationSaint Vitus - Born Too LateSaint Vitus - Saint VitusSaint Vitus - VSamhain - InitiumSamhain - November-Coming-FireSarcófago - I.N.R.I.Sarcófago - RottingSaxon - Denim & LeatherSaxon - Strong Arm Of The lawSaxon - Wheels Of SteelScientists - This Heart Doesn'T Run On Blood, This Heart Doesn'T Run On LoveScientists - Weird LoveScorpions - Love At First StingScraping Foetus Off The Wheel - HoleScraping Foetus Off The Wheel – NailScratch Acid - Just Keep EatingScratch Acid - s/t Scream - No More CensorshipScream - Still ScreamingScream - This Side UpScreaming Trees - Buzz FactoryScreaming Trees - Even If & Especially WhenSeptic Death - Now That I Have the Attention, What Do I Do with It?Sepultura - Beneath the RemainsShudder To Think - Curses, Spells, Voodoo, MoosesSick Of It All - Blood , Sweat, and No TearsSisters Of Mercy - First And Last And AlwaysSisters of Mercy - Floodland Skid Row - Skid RowSkinny Puppy - Cleanse Fold And ManipulateSkinny Puppy - Mind: The Perpetual IntercourseSkinny Puppy - VIVIsectVISkullflower - Form DestroyerSlayer - Hell AwaitsSlayer - Reign in BloodSlayer - South Of HeavenSlint - TweezSlovenly - We Shoot For the MoonSnakefinger - Greener PosturesSnatches of Pink - Dead MenSocial Distortion - Mommy's Little MonsterSocial Distortion - Prison BoundSodom - Agent OrangeSonic Youth - Bad Moon RisingSonic Youth - Confusion Is SexSonic Youth - Daydream NationSonic Youth - EvolSonic Youth - SisterSonic Youth - The Walls Have EarsSonny Sharrock - GuitarSonny Sharrock Band - Seize the RainbowSore Throat - Death to Capitalist HardcoreSoul Asylum - Hang TimeSoundgarden - Louder Than LoveSoundgarden - Ultra Mega OKSpacemen 3 - Playing With FireSpacemen 3 - Sound of ConfusionSpacemen 3 - The Perfect PrescriptionSPK - Auto-Da-FeSquirrel Bait - Skag HeavenSquirrel Bait - Squirrel BaitSteve Jones - Fire and GasolineStiff Little Fingers - Nobody's HeroesStormtroopers of Death - Speak English or DieStretchheads - Five Fingers, Four Thingers...Suicidal Tendencies - S/TSuicide - Half AliveSwans - Children Of GodSwans - CopSwans - FilthSwans - Public Castration Is A Good IdeaSwans - S/TSwans - Young GodSwell Maps - ...In "Jane From Occupied Europe"Tank - Filth Hounds Of HadesTerrorizer - World DownfallTest Dept. - Ecstacy Under DuressTestament - The LegacyTestament - The New OrderThe Afghan Whigs - Big Top HalloweenThe Birthday Party - Prayers on FireThe Comsat Angels - Sleep No MoreThe Comsat Angels - Waiting For A MiracleThe Crucifucks - s/tThe Cult - ElectricThe Cult - LoveThe Cult - Sonic TempleThe Cynics - Blue Train StationThe Damned - The Black AlbumThe Ex - 1936 spanish revolutionThe Fall - Hex Enduction HouirThe Fall - Perverted by LanguageThe Fall - This Nation's Saving GraceThe Fluid - Clear Black PaperThe Fuzztones - Lysergic EmanationsThe Gories - House Rockin'The Gun Club - Fire of LoveThe Gun Club - The Las Vegas StoryThe Honeymoon Killers - Turn Me OnThe Jesus And Mary Chain - AutomaticThe Jesus And Mary Chain - PsychocandyThe Jesus Lizard - PureThe Left - Hell It's the EarthThe Lords of the New Church - The Method to Our MadnessThe Meatmen - We're The Meatmen...and You Suck!!The Misfits - Walk Among UsThe Nomads - OutburstThe Pretenders - Pretenders IIThe Primitives - Lazy 86-88The Ramones - Pleasant DreamsThe Replacements - HootenannyThe Replacements - Let It BeThe Replacements - Sorry Ma, Forgot To Take Out The TrashThe Replacements - TimThe Reverb Motherfuckers - Route 666The Scientists - Blood Red RiverThe Screaming Blue Messiahs - GunshyThe Screaming Blue Messiahs - Totally ReligiousThe Sound -JeopardyThe Telescopes - TasteThe Wedding Present - BizarroThee Mighty Caesars - English Punk Rock ExplosionThin Lizzy - Thunder and LightningThin White Rope - MoonheadThis Heat - DeceitThree Johns - Atom Drum BopThrowing Muses - s/tThrowing Muses - The Real RamonaTin Machine - Tin MachineTrouble - Psalm 9Trouble - The SkullTSOL - Change Today?Twisted Sister - Stay HungryU2 - BoyUnion Carbide Productions - In the Air TonightUrge Overkill - Jesus Urge SuperstarUt - ConvictionVan Halen - 1984Van Halen - Women and Children FirstVenom - Black MetalVenom - PossessedVenom - Welcome to HellVio-lence -Eternal NightmareVoid/Faith Split LPVoivod - Dimension HatrossVoivod - Killing TechnologyVoivod - NothingfaceWarrant - Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking RichWASP - WASPWhitesnake - Slip of the TongueWhitesnake - WhitesnakeWipers - Is This RealWipers - Over The EdgeWipers - Youth Of AmericaWitchfinder General - Death PenaltyWolfhounds - Bright & GuiltyX - Los AngelesX - Wild GiftY&T - Open FireYoung Gods - L'eau RougeYoung Gods - s/tYouth Of Today - Break Down The WallsYouth Of Today - We're Not In This AloneZeni Geva - Maximum Love + FuckZero Boys - Vicious CircleZoogz Rift - Amputees in LimboZZ Top - Eliminator
If there's anything been missed out or is not from the 1980s please let me know before I email the list to seandalai. Once he has set up the voting form I will start a new thread.But obviously you can start on your ballots shortlist now (minimum 15 albums maximum 50)
The voting thread is of course for repping albums but youtubes wont be allowed, so if someone wants to go ahead and start a youtube thread that's fine.
I need to sort out the tracks list now.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 27 August 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
erm... mist two of mine which were:rollins band - do itnomeansno - you kill me.
― iglu ferrignu, Monday, 27 August 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
Right, in this case, the REM and U2 albums that were actually nominated were Life's Rich Pageant and The Joshua Tree iirc.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 27 August 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link
are they albums or tracks?
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 27 August 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
updated 7 Seconds - Walk Together, Rock Together8 Eyed Spy - S/TAC/DC - Back in BlackAdolescents - AdolescentsAerosmith - PumpAgent Orange - Living in DarknessAlice Donut - Bucketfulls of Sickness and Horror in an Otherwise Meaningless Life Amebix - AriseAmebix - MonolithAngry Samoans - Back From SamoaAnnihilator -Alice In HellAnthrax - Among The LivingAnthrax - Spreading The DiseaseAppliances - SFB - SFBAtheist - Piece Of TimeAutopsy - Severed SurvivalAvengers - AvengersBad Brains - Bad BrainsBad Brains - I Against IBad Brains - S/TBad Religion - No ControlBad Religion - SufferBand of Susans - Hope Against HopeBand of Susans - Love AgendaBastro - Diablo GuapoBathory - Blood Fire DeathBathory - Under The Sign Of The Black MarkBauhaus - Burning From The InsideBauhaus - In The Flat FieldBauhaus - MaskBauhaus - The Sky'S Gone OutBig Black - AtomizerBig Black - Songs About FuckingBig Boys/Dicks - Recorded Live at Raul's ClubBilly Idol - Rebel YellBirthday Party - JunkyardBitch Magnet - Star BootyBitch Magnet - UmberBlack Flag - DamagedBlack Flag - In My HeadBlack Flag - Jealous AgainBlack Flag - My WarBlack Flag - Slip It InBlack Sabbath - Heaven And HellBlack Sabbath - Mob RulesBlind Idiot God - S/TBlind Idiot God - UndertowBlue Oyster Cult - Cultosaurus ErectusBolt Thrower - Realm Of ChaosBon Jovi - Slippery When WetBoredoms - Soul DischargeButthole Surfers - A Brown Reason To LiveButthole Surfers - Hairway to StevenButthole Surfers - Locust Abortion TechnicianButthole Surfers - Psychic... Powerless... Another Man'S SacButthole Surfers - Rembrandt PussyhorseCandlemass - Ancient DreamsCandlemass - Epicus Doomicus MetallicusCandlemass - NightfallCandlemass - Tales Of CreationCapt Beefheart - Doc at the Radar StationCapt Beefheart - Ice Cream for CrowCarcass - Symphonies of SicknessCaroliner Rainbow Hernia Milk Queen - Rear End Hernia Puppet ShowCaroliner Rainbow Stewed Angel Skins - I'm Armed With Quarts of BloodCelibate Rifles - The Turgid Miasma of ExistenceCeltic Frost - Into the PandemoniumCeltic Frost - Morbid TalesCeltic Frost - To Mega TherionCheap Trick - One On OneChristian Death - Only Theatre of PainChrome - Blood on the MoonChrome - Red ExposureChrome - Third From the SunCircle Jerks - Group SexCirith Ungol - Frost and FireCirith Ungol - King Of The DeadCoil - Horse RotorvatorCoil- ScatologyCondemned to Death - Diary of a Love MonsterCop Shoot Cop - Headkick FacsimileCoroner - No More ColorCoroner - Punishment for DecadenceCoroner - R.I.P.Corrosion of Conformity - AnimosityCosmic Psychos - Go the HackCouch Potatoes - Curiosity RocksCows - daddy has a tailCramps - Psychedelic JungleCramps - Smell Of FemaleCramps - Songs The Lord Taught UsCrash Course in Science - Signals from Pier 13Crass - Christ - the albumCrass - Penis EnvyCrass - Yes Sir I WillCro-Mags - Best WishesCro-Mags - The Age of QuarrelCryptic Slaughter - Money TalksCurrent 93 - Dogs Blood RisingD.R.I. - CrossoverD.R.I. - Dealing With ItDAF - Die Kleinen und die BosenDag Nasty - Can I SayDanzig - DanzigDark Angel - Darkness DescendsDas Damen - MousetrapDas Damen - TriskaidekaphobeDavid Thomas and the Pedestrians - The Sound of the SandDead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotten VegetablesDead Milkmen - BeelzebubbaDeath - LeprosyDeath - Scream Bloody GoreDeath Angel - The Ultra-ViolenceDeath In June - Brown BookDeath In June - NadaDeath In June - The Guilty Have No PrideDeath In June - The World That SummerDef Leppard - High N DryDef Leppard - HysteriaDef Leppard - On Through the NightDef Leppard - PyromaniaDescendents - I Don't Want to Grow UpDescendents - Milo Goes To CollegeDestruction - Eternal DevastationDiamond Head - Lightning to the NationsDidjits - Hey JudesterDie Kreuzen - S/TDied Pretty - Free DirtDinosaur - S/TDinosaur Jr - BugDinosaur Jr - You're Living All Over MeDio - Holy DiverDio - Last In LineDischarge - Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say NothingDNA - A Taste of DNADog Faced Hermans - Humans FlyDog Faced Hermans Every Day TimebombDogs D'Amour - In the Dynamite Jet SaloonDream Syndicate - The Days of Wine and RosesDrunks with Guns - Drunks with GunsDustdevils - GutterlightDustdevils - Is Big LeggyDwarves - Horror StoriesDwarves - Tooling for a Warm TeabagEcho & The Bunnymen - CrocodilesEinsturzende Neubauten - Drawings Of OtEinsturzende Neubauten - Fuenf Auf Der Nach Oben Offenen RichterskalaEinsturzende Neubauten - Halber MenschEinsturzende Neubauten – Haus der LügeEinsturzende Neubauten - KollapsElectro Hippies - The Only Good Punk... Is A Dead OneEmbrace - EmbraceEnglish Dogs - Forward Into BattleExciter - Long Live the LoudExodus - Bonded By BloodExodus - Fabulous DisasterExtreme Noise Terror - A Holocaust in Your HeadF/I - Space MantraF/i - Why Not Now? Alan!Faith No More - Introduce YourselfFaith No More - The Real ThingFates Warning - Perfect SymmetryFear - The RecordFields Of The Nephilim - The NephilimFire Party - s/tfIREHOSE - Ragin', Full OnFishbone - Truth and SoulFlesheaters - A Minute To Pray A Second To DieFlipper - Generic FlipperFoetus Interruptus - ThawFugazi - FugaziFugazi - Margin WalkerFushitsusha - Live IGame Theory - Big Shot ChroniclesGeorge Thorogood & The Destroyers - Bad to the BoneGiant Sand - Valley Of RainGirl Trouble - Hit It or Quit ItGirlschool - Demolition Girlschool - Hit And RunGlenn Branca - Lesson No. 1Glenn Branca - The AscensionGodflesh - StreetcleanerGore - Mean Man’s DreamGorilla Biscuits - Start TodayGreen On Red - Gas Food LodgingGrong Grong - S/TGuess Papers - We Got 'EmGuns N' Roses - Appetite For DestructionHalo of Flies - GarbageburnHalo Of Flies - Singles Going NowhereHanoi Rocks - Bangkok Shocks, Saigon Shakes, Hanoi Rocks Happy Go Licky - S/THead Of David - DustbowlHead Of David - Head Of DavidHelios Creed - Superior Catholic FingerHelios Creed - The Last LaughHellhammer - Apocalyptic RaidsHellhammer - Satanic RitesHusker Du - Candy Apple GreyHusker Du - Flip Your WigHusker Du - Metal CircusHusker Du - New day RisingHusker Du - Zen ArcadeIcons of Filth - Onward Christian SoldiersIggy Pop - InstinctIke Yard - s/tIron Maiden - KillersIron Maiden - Number Of The BeastIron Maiden - Piece of MindIron Maiden - PowerslaveIron Maiden - s/tJane's Addiction - Nothing's ShockingJim Carroll Band - Catholic BoyJoan Jett - Bad reputationJon Wayne - Texas FuneralJourney - DepartureJourney - EscapeJudas Priest - British SteelJudas Priest - Defenders of the FaithJudas Priest - Screaming For VengeanceKeiji Haino- Watashi DakeKilldozer - Intellectuals Are The Shoeshine Boys Of The Ruling EliteKilldozer - Intellectuals Are the Shoeshine Boys of the Ruling EliteKilldozer - Snake BoyKilling Joke - Killing JokeKilling Joke - Night TimeKilling Joke - What's THIS For...!Kilslug - Answer The CallKing Crimson - DisciplineKing Diamond - AbigailKix - Blow My FuseKix - s/tKreator - Pleasure To KillLast Exit - KölnLazy Cowgirls - Tapping the SourceLemonheads - Hate Your FriendsLime Spiders - HeadcleanerLita Ford - Out For BloodLive Skull - Bringing Home The BaitLive Skull - Cloud OneLive Skull - Don't Get Any on YouLive Skull - DustedLive Skull - S/TLiving Colour - VividLoop - Black SunLoop - Fade Out Loop - Heaven's EndLoop - The World in Your EyesLoverboy - Get LuckyLubricated Goat - Paddock Of LoveLyres - Lyres LyresMacabre - GloomManilla Road - Crystal LogicManilla Road - Open The GatesManilla Road - The DelugeManowar - Fighting The WorldManowar - Sign of the HammerMars - 78Massacre - Killing TimeMasters Of Reality- Masters Of RealityMayhem - DeathcrushMDC - Millions of Dead CopsMeat Puppets - HuevosMeat Puppets - MonsterMeat Puppets - Up On The SunMeat Puppets- IIMegadeth - Killing Is My Business... and Business Is Good!Megadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buying?Megadeth - So Far, So Good... So WhatMelvins - Gluey Porch TreatmentsMelvins - OzmaMercyful Fate - Dont Break The OathMercyful Fate - MelissaMetallica - ...And Justice For AllMetallica - Kill 'Em AllMetallica - Master of PuppetsMetallica - Ride The LightningMinistry - The Land of Rape and HoneyMinistry - The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To TasteMinistry - TwitchMinor Threat - Minor ThreatMinor Threat - out of stepMinutemen - Buzz or Howl Under the Influence of HeatMinutemen – Double Nickels on the DimeMinutemen - The Punch LineMinutemen - What Makes a Man Start Fires?Misfits - BewareMisfits - Earth AdMisfits - Legacy Of BrutalityMission of Burma - Signals, Calls, and MarchesMission of Burma - Vs.Monster Magnet - Forget About Life I'M High On DopeMorbid Angel - Altars Of MadnessMorsure - Acceleration ProcessMotley Crue - Dr. FeelgoodMotley Crue - Shout At The DevilMotley Crue - Too Fast For LoveMotorhead - Ace of SpadesMotorhead - Another Perfect DayMotorhead - OrgasmatronMudhoney - Superfuzz BigmuffMX-80 Sound - Out Of The TunnelMy Bloody Valentine - Isn't AnythingN.W.A. - Straight Outta ComptonNaked City - Naked CityNaked City - Torture GardenNaked Raygun - JettisonNaked Raygun - Throb ThrobNapalm Death - From Enslavement To ObliterationNapalm Death - ScumNeil Young - FreedomNeil Young & Crazy Horse - Re*Ac*TorNeurosis - Pain of MindNew Model Army - No Rest for the WickedNick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Firstborn Is DeadNick Cave + the Bad Seeds - From Her to EternityNick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Your Funeral, My TrialNine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate MachineNirvana - BleachNitzer Ebb - ShowtimeNo Trend – When Death Won'T Solve Your ProblemNoMeansNo - WrongNomeansno - You Kill MeNuclear Assault - Game OverNurse With Wound - Homotopy To MarieNurse With Wound - Soliloquy for LilithObituary - Slowly We RotOperation Ivy - EnergyOzzy Osbourne - Blizzard Of OzOzzy Osbourne - Diary Of A MadmanPagan Altar - Pagan AltarPagans - Buried AlivePantera - Power MetalPaul Chain - In The DarknessPaul Chain - Violet Art Of ImprovisationPaul Chain Violet Theatre - Detaching From Satan EPPentagram - Day Of ReckoningPentagram - Pentagrampil - flowers of romancePixies - Come On PilgrimPixies - DoolittlePixies - Surfer RosaPlasmatics - Beyond the Valley of 1984plugz - better luckPoison - Open Up And Say...Ahhh!Poison Idea - Kings of PunkPop Group - For How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass MurderPossessed - Seven ChurchesPrimitive Calculators - s/tPrimus - Suck On ThisProng - Force FedProng - Primitive OriginsPsychedelic Furs - Talk Talk TalkPsychic TV - A Pagan DayPsychic TV - Mouth of the NightPussy Galore - Dial 'M' for MotherfuckerPussy Galore - Right Now!Pussy Galore - Sugarshit SharpQueensryche - Operation: MindcrimeRadio Birdman - Living EyesRaging Slab - Raging SlabRamones - End of the CenturyRapeman - Two Nuns and a Pack MuleRaw Power - Screams From the GutterReagan Youth - Volume 1Red Hot Chili Peppers - Freaky StyleyRed Hot Chili Peppers - Mothers MilkRed Hot Chili Peppers - Uplift Mofo Party PlanRedd Kross - NeuroticaREM - Fables of the ReconstructionRepulsion - HorrifiedRhys Chatham - Die DonnergotterRites Of Spring - End on EndRollins Band - Do ItRoyal Trux - Royal TruxRudimentary Peni - Death ChurchRush - Moving PicturesSaccharine Trust - Pagan IconsSaccharine Trust-Surviving You, AlwaysSacrifice - Forward To TerminationSaint Vitus - Born Too LateSaint Vitus - Saint VitusSaint Vitus - VSamhain - InitiumSamhain - November-Coming-FireSarcófago - I.N.R.I.Sarcófago - RottingSavage Republic - CeremonialSaxon - Denim & LeatherSaxon - Strong Arm Of The lawSaxon - Wheels Of SteelScientists - This Heart Doesn'T Run On Blood, This Heart Doesn'T Run On LoveScientists - Weird LoveScorpions - Love At First StingScraping Foetus Off The Wheel - HoleScraping Foetus Off The Wheel – NailScratch Acid - Just Keep EatingScratch Acid - s/t Scream - No More CensorshipScream - Still ScreamingScream - This Side UpScreaming Trees - Buzz FactoryScreaming Trees - Even If & Especially WhenSeptic Death - Now That I Have the Attention, What Do I Do with It?Sepultura - Beneath the RemainsShudder To Think - Curses, Spells, Voodoo, MoosesSick Of It All - Blood , Sweat, and No TearsSisters Of Mercy - First And Last And AlwaysSisters of Mercy - Floodland Skid Row - Skid RowSkinny Puppy - Cleanse Fold And ManipulateSkinny Puppy - Mind: The Perpetual IntercourseSkinny Puppy - VIVIsectVISkullflower - Form DestroyerSlayer - Hell AwaitsSlayer - Reign in BloodSlayer - South Of HeavenSlint - TweezSlovenly - We Shoot For the MoonSnakefinger - Greener PosturesSnatches of Pink - Dead MenSocial Distortion - Mommy's Little MonsterSocial Distortion - Prison BoundSodom - Agent OrangeSonic Youth - Bad Moon RisingSonic Youth - Confusion Is SexSonic Youth - Daydream NationSonic Youth - EvolSonic Youth - SisterSonic Youth - The Walls Have EarsSonny Sharrock - GuitarSonny Sharrock Band - Seize the RainbowSore Throat - Death to Capitalist HardcoreSoul Asylum - Hang TimeSoundgarden - Louder Than LoveSoundgarden - Ultra Mega OKSpacemen 3 - Playing With FireSpacemen 3 - Sound of ConfusionSpacemen 3 - The Perfect PrescriptionSPK - Auto-Da-FeSquirrel Bait - Skag HeavenSquirrel Bait - Squirrel BaitSteve Jones - Fire and GasolineStiff Little Fingers - Nobody's HeroesStormtroopers of Death - Speak English or DieStretchheads - Five Fingers, Four Thingers...Suicidal Tendencies - S/TSuicide - Half AliveSwans - Children Of GodSwans - CopSwans - FilthSwans - Public Castration Is A Good IdeaSwans - S/TSwans - Young GodSwell Maps - ...In "Jane From Occupied Europe"Tank - Filth Hounds Of HadesTerrorizer - World DownfallTest Dept. - Ecstacy Under DuressTestament - The LegacyTestament - The New OrderThe Afghan Whigs - Big Top HalloweenThe Birthday Party - Prayers on FireThe Comsat Angels - Sleep No MoreThe Comsat Angels - Waiting For A MiracleThe Crucifucks - s/tThe Cult - ElectricThe Cult - LoveThe Cult - Sonic TempleThe Cure - PornographyThe Cynics - Blue Train StationThe Damned - The Black AlbumThe Ex - 1936 spanish revolutionThe Fall - Hex Enduction HouirThe Fall - Perverted by LanguageThe Fall - This Nation's Saving GraceThe Flaming Lips - Oh My GawdThe Flaming Lips - Telepathetic SurgeryThe Fluid - Clear Black PaperThe Fuzztones - Lysergic EmanationsThe Gories - House Rockin'The Gun Club - Fire of LoveThe Gun Club - The Las Vegas StoryThe Honeymoon Killers - Turn Me OnThe Jesus And Mary Chain - AutomaticThe Jesus And Mary Chain - PsychocandyThe Jesus Lizard - PureThe Left - Hell It's the EarthThe Lords of the New Church - The Method to Our MadnessThe Meatmen - We're The Meatmen...and You Suck!!The Misfits - Walk Among UsThe Nomads - OutburstThe Pretenders - Pretenders IIThe Primitives - Lazy 86-88The Ramones - Pleasant DreamsThe Replacements - HootenannyThe Replacements - Let It BeThe Replacements - Sorry Ma, Forgot To Take Out The TrashThe Replacements - TimThe Reverb Motherfuckers - Route 666The Scientists - Blood Red RiverThe Screaming Blue Messiahs - GunshyThe Screaming Blue Messiahs - Totally ReligiousThe Sound - All Fall DownThe Sound - From The Lions MouthThe Sound -JeopardyThe Telescopes - TasteThe Wedding Present - BizarroThee Mighty Caesars - English Punk Rock ExplosionThin Lizzy - Thunder and LightningThin White Rope - MoonheadThis Heat - DeceitThree Johns - Atom Drum BopThrowing Muses - s/tThrowing Muses - The Real RamonaTin Machine - Tin MachineTrouble - Psalm 9Trouble - The SkullTSOL - Change Today?Twisted Sister - Stay HungryU2 - BoyUnion Carbide Productions - In the Air TonightUrge Overkill - Jesus Urge SuperstarUt - ConvictionVan Halen - 1984Van Halen - Women and Children FirstVenom - Black MetalVenom - PossessedVenom - Welcome to HellVio-lence -Eternal NightmareVoid/Faith Split LPVoivod - Dimension HatrossVoivod - Killing TechnologyVoivod - NothingfaceWarrant - Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking RichWASP - WASPWhitesnake - Slip of the TongueWhitesnake - WhitesnakeWipers - Is This RealWipers - Over The EdgeWipers - Youth Of AmericaWitchfinder General - Death PenaltyWolfhounds - Bright & GuiltyX - Los AngelesX - Wild GiftY&T - Open FireYoung Gods - L'eau RougeYoung Gods - s/tYouth Of Today - Break Down The WallsYouth Of Today - We're Not In This AloneZeni Geva - Maximum Love + FuckZero Boys - Vicious CircleZoogz Rift - Amputees in LimboZZ Top - Eliminator
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 27 August 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
obviously you don't want youtube embeds, but what about links? thx for making that correction, btw.
― Hellhouse, Monday, 27 August 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
Start a separate thread for youtubes please
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 27 August 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
Life's Rich Pageant and The Joshua Tree are definitely albums, if that's what you were asking. Both were nominated on 31 July.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 27 August 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
no i wasnt talking about them. I've sent the lists to Seandalai
NOMINATIONS ARE CLOSED
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 27 August 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
Oh nm, I get you.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 27 August 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
do you think 2 weeks voting time for tracks and 3 weeks for albums is enough or should it be 3 & 4 weeks? (tracks will roll out first so may as well allow extra time for albums when people say they had no idea there was a poll on etc)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 27 August 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
3&4 gets my vote.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 27 August 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link
no objections so far so it's looking like 3/4 weeks ,so if anyone disagrees they have til I hear from seandalai
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 27 August 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
I'm excited.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 03:12 (twelve years ago) link
So, what now? Where do I vote?
― Raoul Duke (ku4u1u), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 04:13 (twelve years ago) link
The voting form has to be set up by seandalai. I'm just waiting on him getting back to me, I've emailed him. I will start a new thread once everything is set up.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 08:47 (twelve years ago) link
Shall I start a youtube campaign thread just now while we wait on the voting forms being set up or would that lead to too many cries of "where do i vote?"
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 12:10 (twelve years ago) link
I think I shall
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 13:48 (twelve years ago) link
Final list
7 Seconds - Walk Together, Rock Together8 Eyed Spy - S/TAC/DC - Back in BlackAdolescents - AdolescentsAerosmith - PumpAgent Orange - Living in DarknessAlice Donut - Bucketfulls of Sickness and Horror in an Otherwise Meaningless Life Amebix - AriseAmebix - MonolithAngry Samoans - Back From SamoaAnnihilator -Alice In HellAnthrax - Among The LivingAnthrax - Spreading The DiseaseAppliances - SFB - SFBAtheist - Piece Of TimeAutopsy - Severed SurvivalAvengers - AvengersBad Brains - Bad BrainsBad Brains - I Against IBad Brains - S/TBad Religion - No ControlBad Religion - SufferBand of Susans - Hope Against HopeBand of Susans - Love AgendaBastro - Diablo GuapoBathory - Blood Fire DeathBathory - Under The Sign Of The Black MarkBauhaus - Burning From The InsideBauhaus - In The Flat FieldBauhaus - MaskBauhaus - The Sky'S Gone OutBig Black - AtomizerBig Black - Songs About FuckingBig Boys/Dicks - Recorded Live at Raul's ClubBilly Idol - Rebel YellBirthday Party - JunkyardBitch Magnet - Star BootyBitch Magnet - UmberBlack Flag - DamagedBlack Flag - In My HeadBlack Flag - Jealous AgainBlack Flag - My WarBlack Flag - Slip It InBlack Sabbath - Heaven And HellBlack Sabbath - Mob RulesBlind Idiot God - S/TBlind Idiot God - UndertowBlue Oyster Cult - Cultosaurus ErectusBolt Thrower - Realm Of ChaosBon Jovi - Slippery When WetBoredoms - Soul DischargeButthole Surfers - A Brown Reason To LiveButthole Surfers - Hairway to StevenButthole Surfers - Locust Abortion TechnicianButthole Surfers - Psychic... Powerless... Another Man'S SacButthole Surfers - Rembrandt PussyhorseCandlemass - Ancient DreamsCandlemass - Epicus Doomicus MetallicusCandlemass - NightfallCandlemass - Tales Of CreationCapt Beefheart - Doc at the Radar StationCapt Beefheart - Ice Cream for CrowCarcass - Symphonies of SicknessCaroliner Rainbow Hernia Milk Queen - Rear End Hernia Puppet ShowCaroliner Rainbow Stewed Angel Skins - I'm Armed With Quarts of BloodCelibate Rifles - The Turgid Miasma of ExistenceCeltic Frost - Into the PandemoniumCeltic Frost - Morbid TalesCeltic Frost - To Mega TherionCheap Trick - One On OneChristian Death - Only Theatre of PainChrome - Blood on the MoonChrome - Red ExposureChrome - Third From the SunCircle Jerks - Group SexCirith Ungol - Frost and FireCirith Ungol - King Of The DeadCoil - Horse RotorvatorCoil- ScatologyCondemned to Death - Diary of a Love MonsterCop Shoot Cop - Headkick FacsimileCoroner - No More ColorCoroner - Punishment for DecadenceCoroner - R.I.P.Corrosion of Conformity - AnimosityCosmic Psychos - Go the HackCouch Potatoes - Curiosity RocksCows - daddy has a tailCramps - Psychedelic JungleCramps - Smell Of FemaleCramps - Songs The Lord Taught UsCrash Course in Science - Signals from Pier 13Crass - Christ - the albumCrass - Penis EnvyCrass - Yes Sir I WillCro-Mags - Best WishesCro-Mags - The Age of QuarrelCryptic Slaughter - Money TalksCurrent 93 - Dogs Blood RisingD.R.I. - CrossoverD.R.I. - Dealing With ItDAF - Die Kleinen und die BosenDag Nasty - Can I SayDanzig - DanzigDark Angel - Darkness DescendsDas Damen - MousetrapDas Damen - TriskaidekaphobeDavid Thomas and the Pedestrians - The Sound of the SandDead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotten VegetablesDead Milkmen - BeelzebubbaDeath - LeprosyDeath - Scream Bloody GoreDeath Angel - The Ultra-ViolenceDeath In June - Brown BookDeath In June - NadaDeath In June - The Guilty Have No PrideDeath In June - The World That SummerDef Leppard - High N DryDef Leppard - HysteriaDef Leppard - On Through the NightDef Leppard - PyromaniaDescendents - I Don't Want to Grow UpDescendents - Milo Goes To CollegeDestruction - Eternal DevastationDiamond Head - Lightning to the NationsDidjits - Hey JudesterDie Kreuzen - S/TDied Pretty - Free DirtDinosaur - S/TDinosaur Jr - BugDinosaur Jr - You're Living All Over MeDio - Holy DiverDio - Last In LineDischarge - Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say NothingDNA - A Taste of DNADog Faced Hermans - Humans FlyDog Faced Hermans Every Day TimebombDogs D'Amour - In the Dynamite Jet SaloonDream Syndicate - The Days of Wine and RosesDrunks with Guns - Drunks with GunsDustdevils - GutterlightDustdevils - Is Big LeggyDwarves - Horror StoriesDwarves - Tooling for a Warm TeabagEcho & The Bunnymen - CrocodilesEinsturzende Neubauten - Drawings Of OtEinsturzende Neubauten - Fuenf Auf Der Nach Oben Offenen RichterskalaEinsturzende Neubauten - Halber MenschEinsturzende Neubauten – Haus der LügeEinsturzende Neubauten - KollapsElectro Hippies - The Only Good Punk... Is A Dead OneEmbrace - EmbraceEnglish Dogs - Forward Into BattleExciter - Long Live the LoudExodus - Bonded By BloodExodus - Fabulous DisasterExtreme Noise Terror - A Holocaust in Your HeadF/I - Space MantraF/i - Why Not Now? Alan!Faith No More - Introduce YourselfFaith No More - The Real ThingFates Warning - Perfect SymmetryFear - The RecordFields Of The Nephilim - The NephilimFire Party - s/tfIREHOSE - Ragin', Full OnFishbone - Truth and SoulFlesheaters - A Minute To Pray A Second To DieFlipper - Generic FlipperFoetus Interruptus - ThawFugazi - FugaziFugazi - Margin WalkerFushitsusha - Live IGame Theory - Big Shot ChroniclesGeorge Thorogood & The Destroyers - Bad to the BoneGiant Sand - Valley Of RainGirl Trouble - Hit It or Quit ItGirlschool - Demolition Girlschool - Hit And RunGlenn Branca - Lesson No. 1Glenn Branca - The AscensionGodflesh - StreetcleanerGore - Mean Man’s DreamGorilla Biscuits - Start TodayGreen On Red - Gas Food LodgingGrong Grong - S/TGuess Papers - We Got 'EmGuns N' Roses - Appetite For DestructionHalo of Flies - GarbageburnHalo Of Flies - Singles Going NowhereHanoi Rocks - Bangkok Shocks, Saigon Shakes, Hanoi Rocks Happy Go Licky - S/THead Of David - DustbowlHead Of David - Head Of DavidHelios Creed - Superior Catholic FingerHelios Creed - The Last LaughHellhammer - Apocalyptic RaidsHellhammer - Satanic RitesHusker Du - Candy Apple GreyHusker Du - Flip Your WigHusker Du - Metal CircusHusker Du - New day RisingHusker Du - Zen ArcadeIcons of Filth - Onward Christian SoldiersIggy Pop - InstinctIke Yard - s/tIron Maiden - KillersIron Maiden - Number Of The BeastIron Maiden - Piece of MindIron Maiden - PowerslaveIron Maiden - s/tJane's Addiction - Nothing's ShockingJim Carroll Band - Catholic BoyJoan Jett - Bad reputationJon Wayne - Texas FuneralJourney - DepartureJourney - EscapeJudas Priest - British SteelJudas Priest - Defenders of the FaithJudas Priest - Screaming For VengeanceKeiji Haino- Watashi DakeKilldozer - Intellectuals Are The Shoeshine Boys Of The Ruling EliteKilldozer - Intellectuals Are the Shoeshine Boys of the Ruling EliteKilldozer - Snake BoyKilling Joke - Killing JokeKilling Joke - Night TimeKilling Joke - What's THIS For...!Kilslug - Answer The CallKing Crimson - DisciplineKing Diamond - AbigailKix - Blow My FuseKix - s/tKreator - Pleasure To KillLast Exit - KölnLazy Cowgirls - Tapping the SourceLemonheads - Hate Your FriendsLime Spiders - HeadcleanerLita Ford - Out For BloodLive Skull - Bringing Home The BaitLive Skull - Cloud OneLive Skull - Don't Get Any on YouLive Skull - DustedLive Skull - S/TLiving Colour - VividLoop - Black SunLoop - Fade Out Loop - Heaven's EndLoop - The World in Your EyesLoverboy - Get LuckyLubricated Goat - Paddock Of LoveLyres - Lyres LyresMacabre - GloomManilla Road - Crystal LogicManilla Road - Open The GatesManilla Road - The DelugeManowar - Fighting The WorldManowar - Sign of the HammerMars - 78Massacre - Killing TimeMasters Of Reality- Masters Of RealityMayhem - DeathcrushMDC - Millions of Dead CopsMeat Puppets - HuevosMeat Puppets - MonsterMeat Puppets - Up On The SunMeat Puppets- IIMegadeth - Killing Is My Business... and Business Is Good!Megadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buying?Megadeth - So Far, So Good... So WhatMelvins - Gluey Porch TreatmentsMelvins - OzmaMercyful Fate - Dont Break The OathMercyful Fate - MelissaMetallica - ...And Justice For AllMetallica - Kill 'Em AllMetallica - Master of PuppetsMetallica - Ride The LightningMinistry - The Land of Rape and HoneyMinistry - The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To TasteMinistry - TwitchMinor Threat - Minor ThreatMinor Threat - out of stepMinutemen - Buzz or Howl Under the Influence of HeatMinutemen – Double Nickels on the DimeMinutemen - The Punch LineMinutemen - What Makes a Man Start Fires?Misfits - BewareMisfits - Earth AdMisfits - Legacy Of BrutalityMission of Burma - Signals, Calls, and MarchesMission of Burma - Vs.Monster Magnet - Forget About Life I'M High On DopeMorbid Angel - Altars Of MadnessMorsure - Acceleration ProcessMotley Crue - Dr. FeelgoodMotley Crue - Shout At The DevilMotley Crue - Too Fast For LoveMotorhead - Ace of SpadesMotorhead - Another Perfect DayMotorhead - OrgasmatronMudhoney - Superfuzz BigmuffMX-80 Sound - Out Of The TunnelMy Bloody Valentine - Isn't AnythingN.W.A. - Straight Outta ComptonNaked City - Naked CityNaked City - Torture GardenNaked Raygun - JettisonNaked Raygun - Throb ThrobNapalm Death - From Enslavement To ObliterationNapalm Death - ScumNeil Young - FreedomNeil Young & Crazy Horse - Re*Ac*TorNeurosis - Pain of MindNew Model Army - No Rest for the WickedNick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Firstborn Is DeadNick Cave + the Bad Seeds - From Her to EternityNick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Your Funeral, My TrialNine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate MachineNirvana - BleachNitzer Ebb - ShowtimeNo Trend – When Death Won'T Solve Your ProblemNoMeansNo - WrongNomeansno - You Kill MeNuclear Assault - Game OverNurse With Wound - Homotopy To MarieNurse With Wound - Soliloquy for LilithObituary - Slowly We RotOperation Ivy - EnergyOzzy Osbourne - Blizzard Of OzOzzy Osbourne - Diary Of A MadmanPagan Altar - Pagan AltarPagans - Buried AlivePantera - Power MetalPaul Chain - In The DarknessPaul Chain - Violet Art Of ImprovisationPaul Chain Violet Theatre - Detaching From Satan EPPentagram - Day Of ReckoningPentagram - Pentagrampil - flowers of romancePixies - Come On PilgrimPixies - DoolittlePixies - Surfer RosaPlasmatics - Beyond the Valley of 1984plugz - better luckPoison - Open Up And Say...Ahhh!Poison Idea - Kings of PunkPop Group - For How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass MurderPossessed - Seven ChurchesPrimitive Calculators - s/tPrimus - Suck On ThisProng - Force FedProng - Primitive OriginsPsychedelic Furs - Talk Talk TalkPsychic TV - A Pagan DayPsychic TV - Mouth of the NightPussy Galore - Dial 'M' for MotherfuckerPussy Galore - Right Now!Pussy Galore - Sugarshit SharpQueensryche - Operation: MindcrimeRadio Birdman - Living EyesRaging Slab - Raging SlabRamones - End of the CenturyRapeman - Two Nuns and a Pack MuleRaw Power - Screams From the GutterReagan Youth - Volume 1Red Hot Chili Peppers - Freaky StyleyRed Hot Chili Peppers - Mothers MilkRed Hot Chili Peppers - Uplift Mofo Party PlanRedd Kross - NeuroticaREM - Fables of the ReconstructionRepulsion - HorrifiedRhys Chatham - Die DonnergotterRites Of Spring - End on EndRollins Band - Do ItRoyal Trux - Royal TruxRudimentary Peni - Death ChurchRush - Moving PicturesSaccharine Trust - Pagan IconsSaccharine Trust-Surviving You, AlwaysSacrifice - Forward To TerminationSaint Vitus - Born Too LateSaint Vitus - Saint VitusSaint Vitus - VSamhain - InitiumSamhain - November-Coming-FireSarcófago - I.N.R.I.Sarcófago - RottingSavage Republic - CeremonialSaxon - Denim & LeatherSaxon - Strong Arm Of The lawSaxon - Wheels Of SteelScientists - This Heart Doesn'T Run On Blood, This Heart Doesn'T Run On LoveScientists - Weird LoveScorpions - Love At First StingScraping Foetus Off The Wheel - HoleScraping Foetus Off The Wheel – NailScratch Acid - Just Keep EatingScratch Acid - s/t Scream - No More CensorshipScream - Still ScreamingScream - This Side UpScreaming Trees - Buzz FactoryScreaming Trees - Even If & Especially WhenSeptic Death - Now That I Have the Attention, What Do I Do with It?Sepultura - Beneath the RemainsShudder To Think - Curses, Spells, Voodoo, MoosesSick Of It All - Blood , Sweat, and No TearsSisters Of Mercy - First And Last And AlwaysSisters of Mercy - Floodland Skid Row - Skid RowSkinny Puppy - Cleanse Fold And ManipulateSkinny Puppy - Mind: The Perpetual IntercourseSkinny Puppy - VIVIsectVISkullflower - Form DestroyerSlayer - Hell AwaitsSlayer - Reign in BloodSlayer - South Of HeavenSlint - TweezSlovenly - We Shoot For the MoonSnakefinger - Greener PosturesSnatches of Pink - Dead MenSocial Distortion - Mommy's Little MonsterSocial Distortion - Prison BoundSodom - Agent OrangeSonic Youth - Bad Moon RisingSonic Youth - Confusion Is SexSonic Youth - Daydream NationSonic Youth - EvolSonic Youth - SisterSonic Youth - The Walls Have EarsSonny Sharrock - GuitarSonny Sharrock Band - Seize the RainbowSore Throat - Death to Capitalist HardcoreSoul Asylum - Hang TimeSoundgarden - Louder Than LoveSoundgarden - Ultra Mega OKSpacemen 3 - Playing With FireSpacemen 3 - Sound of ConfusionSpacemen 3 - The Perfect PrescriptionSPK - Auto-Da-FeSquirrel Bait - Skag HeavenSquirrel Bait - Squirrel BaitSteve Jones - Fire and GasolineStiff Little Fingers - Nobody's HeroesStormtroopers of Death - Speak English or DieStretchheads - Five Fingers, Four Thingers...Suicidal Tendencies - S/TSuicide - Half AliveSwans - Children Of GodSwans - CopSwans - FilthSwans - Public Castration Is A Good IdeaSwans - S/TSwans - Young GodSwell Maps - ...In "Jane From Occupied Europe"Tank - Filth Hounds Of HadesTerrorizer - World DownfallTest Dept. - Ecstacy Under DuressTestament - The LegacyTestament - The New OrderThe Afghan Whigs - Big Top HalloweenThe Birthday Party - Prayers on FireThe Comsat Angels - Sleep No MoreThe Comsat Angels - Waiting For A MiracleThe Crucifucks - s/tThe Cult - ElectricThe Cult - LoveThe Cult - Sonic TempleThe Cure - PornographyThe Cynics - Blue Train StationThe Damned - The Black AlbumThe Ex - 1936 spanish revolutionThe Fall - Hex Enduction HouirThe Fall - Perverted by LanguageThe Fall - This Nation's Saving GraceThe Flaming Lips - Oh My GawdThe Flaming Lips - Telepathetic SurgeryThe Fluid - Clear Black PaperThe Fuzztones - Lysergic EmanationsThe Gories - House Rockin'The Gun Club - Fire of LoveThe Gun Club - The Las Vegas StoryThe Honeymoon Killers - Turn Me OnThe Jesus And Mary Chain - AutomaticThe Jesus And Mary Chain - PsychocandyThe Jesus Lizard - PureThe Left - Hell It's the EarthThe Lords of the New Church - The Method to Our MadnessThe Meatmen - We're The Meatmen...and You Suck!!The Misfits - Walk Among UsThe Nomads - OutburstThe Pretenders - Pretenders IIThe Primitives - Lazy 86-88The Ramones - Pleasant DreamsThe Replacements - HootenannyThe Replacements - Let It BeThe Replacements - Sorry Ma, Forgot To Take Out The TrashThe Replacements - TimThe Reverb Motherfuckers - Route 666The Scientists - Blood Red RiverThe Screaming Blue Messiahs - GunshyThe Screaming Blue Messiahs - Totally ReligiousThe Sound - All Fall DownThe Sound - From The Lions MouthThe Sound -JeopardyThe Telescopes - TasteThe Wedding Present - BizarroThee Mighty Caesars - English Punk Rock ExplosionThin Lizzy - Thunder and LightningThin White Rope - MoonheadThis Heat - DeceitThree Johns - Atom Drum BopThrowing Muses - s/tThrowing Muses - The Real RamonaTin Machine - Tin MachineTrouble - Psalm 9Trouble - The SkullTSOL - Change Today?Twisted Sister - Stay HungryU2 - BoyUnion Carbide Productions - In the Air TonightUrge Overkill - Jesus Urge SuperstarUt - ConvictionVan Halen - 1984Van Halen - Women and Children FirstVenom - Black MetalVenom - PossessedVenom - Welcome to HellVio-lence -Eternal NightmareVoid/Faith Split LPVoivod - Dimension HatrossVoivod - Killing TechnologyVoivod - NothingfaceWarrant - Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking RichWASP - WASPWhitesnake - Slip of the TongueWhitesnake - WhitesnakeWipers - Is This RealWipers - Over The EdgeWipers - Youth Of AmericaWitchfinder General - Death PenaltyWolfhounds - Bright & GuiltyX - Los AngelesX - Wild GiftY&T - Open FireYoung Gods - L'eau RougeYoung Gods - s/tYouth Of Today - Break Down The WallsYouth Of Today - We're Not In This AloneZeni Geva - Maximum Love + FuckZero Boys - Vicious CircleZoogz Rift - Amputees in LimboZZ Top - Eliminator
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 13:56 (twelve years ago) link
Anyone out there fancy helping out by volunteering to do Spotify playlists for Albums and Tracks?
Here is a youtube companion thread 1980s Rock (With a difference) Tracks/Albums Poll YOUTUBE COMPANION THREAD
Post vids there you would like to campaign for.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link