Great music discoveries from other people's (p4k) lists I want to talk about

Enjoy yr boring clusterfuck going in circles, I am loving Citrus by Asobi Seksu

http://deadleafonafence.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/asobicitrus.jpg

It pretty much sounds like the cover, cute Japanese girl vocals over noisy indie.

Also I have come to really like In Sides by Orbital, as mentioned on the other thread and have listened to it twice in as many days. Other things I've heard because of other people on ILM: the first Laura Marling record, which was pretty but I've already forgotten it, a record by The Auteurs that was OK but not really my thing and Beaches And Canyons by Black Dice which I just thought was a mess.

Anyone else discovering new loves? Anyone else listening outside their comfort zone? Any lists you saw and wanted to recommend? http://peopleslist.pitchfork.com/list/71a7ac6b/ is the sort of list that fascinates me and might keep me going for the rest of 2012, insomuch as I love the 5 records I've heard on it and the rest I know fuck all about other than there are some cool record covers.

First option for other existing threads to post this in was Lets Talk about other peoples genitals so I guess ilx really wants me to get involved with the minefield of the other thread

that list looked really intriguing until I hit Cocorosie

btw SUPER GLAD you discovered In Sides, that album is really fucking astonishing

lol i must have glossed over the cocorosie. such a hideous cover. all the usual suspects have great lists too, like tim f and co

I don't think that's the album with the super dubious racist shit on it, but then again I have no intention of listening to it to find out thanks to my encounter with the super dubious racist shit

Yeah, that's a pretty good list. Lots of stuff I love. I'm increasingly regretful of how misrepresentative of my actual top 100 my list became by hewing mostly to what was in Pitchfork's database. No US Maple, no cred.

a hoy hoy - so pleased you're enjoying In Sides.

I'm a big fan of Beaches & Canyons but it does help if you understand a bit about the background and context of that record and Black Dice's transition from deconstructed hardcore band to freeform electronic noize troupe. My favourite track on there is 'Endless Happiness' which has this incredible ocean sound at the end. In fact a lot of the fun of that album comes partly in working out what parts are played, what are sampled and what are generated by synth. It's also very 'imagerous' in its way. A great headphones album.

is it gauche to repost yr own list here?

In the film 'High Fidelity' (2000), a number of scenes which take place in the record store display a US Maple poster attached to the front of the counter. Frontman Al Johnson cameos in the film as an obsessive collector who is repeatedly turned away from buying a particularly rare record (the French import of Safe as Milk by Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band).

rlly their wiki page doesn't make me want to listen to them so much as beefheart but if ever i am open to suggestions - what record do i try OL?

I personally have discovered D'Angelo's 'Voodoo' which sounds fantastic so far - love the juxtaposition between tough(ish) rap and mellower R'n'B and Prince-styled funk.

Speaking of US Maple, I only just checked them out too thanks to a mention somewhere else. Really like it - sort of like if you were to smash Pearl Jam to pieces an then rearrange them in the wrong order with half the pieces missing.

DJP - go for it!

dog latin - tbh the most background i'm gonna get from this is maybe typing a name into wiki, while playing something picked a random because i like a cover or a name. i did like the ocean sounds though! if it was more of that ambient sort of feel, which ok was like a third of the record, i'd enjoy it more.

Also this want to jump in is in part inspired by a bit of rut of not wanting to listen to anything on my ipod again for the 5000th time and by the scott seward videos of crazy looking records that made it feel like there is a whole musical world out there i've never even considered.

oh man dog latin! voodoo was #2 on my list! and he has started touring again this year, if he ever comes back over here I tell you it is a must to see him! that record is a rare one that somehow gets better with EVERY listen too.

https://peopleslist.pitchfork.com/list/a9f386e6/

I don't think there's anything on here willfully obscure that ppl don't already know about aside from my brother's group Poem-Cees, which you can sample on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QQTLYY/ref=dm_sp_alb

I love this album because so much of it is from the perspective of working white-collar middle-class African-America, a voice you don't necessarily hear in hip-hop. Also, the songs veer from the political to the intensely personal to fun party jams pretty seamlessly, with a couple of spoken word pieces by my brother's fellow MC which slay. I personally am a massive fan of "Glasses", "Jay", "Keloid Suite", "Fat White Men In Suits" and "Blah Blah" but really every track on it is great

http://open.spotify.com/album/6hoFOHgdLPXxDdYzqiWE0I

This is an album that narrowly missed my ballot made by a dude in my brother's artistic circle; my brother plays guitar on one track but now I can't remember which one, lol

basically there's a ton of fantastic DC hip-hop being made by ppl in their 40s

Re: US Maple, I'd recommend Talker and Acre Thrills in roughly that order. Purple On Time (the only one in the P4k db) is about as traditional as they get. While it's okay, it also kinda gets away from what I loved about them so much. And as fucked up as their arrangements sometimes got, they replicated the mess perfectly onstage.

I am glad to see the reppin' for D'Angelo. I've dipped my toe in the neo-soul water and like what I've heard okay, but I haven't heard a whole lot (Erykah Badu, Teedra Moses, & Goapele being a few top-notch outliers) that really moves me like the original stuff. So getting a feel for what really works in that scene would be awesome.

I've added it to my list :D

Which btw is getting pretty huge. It is also set so other people can add to it if y'all choose to.

I'm determined to listen to everything on there. It is p much anything that I've not heard and looked intrestng so much of it may be crappy but there is only one way to find out.

http://open.spotify.com/user/sutrarama/playlist/39V9l2MXcBS1t19OF22QBn

http://open.spotify.com/album/2zKOLLaPdOm8gouCwbzkgF

I put 1977 by Ana Tijoux in my top 100 instead of her more recent album, La Bala, which is my favorite album of hers. I couldn't remember if La Bala came out in 2011 or 2012 (and every source I checked kept saying 2012 and not 2011, but it turns out every source was wrong, argh). So this is a link to La Bala, which everyone should listen to.

cheers ol.

i came to d'angelo, erykah, jill scott etc. from the hiphop direction and it has as much in common with the roots/those early rawkus records/common/etc. as it does neo-soul, prince, sly stone etc.

Have to admit I feel a lot more naturally inclined towards the neo soul artists (Goapele, D'Angelo etc), as in when it comes on I sit up and pay attention, than a lot of more general r'n'b. That probably won't earn me many cool points here but despite trying I still don't think I've truly got my head around r'n'b whereas a lot of the artists under the neo soul banner click instantly.

I hope people are moved to try Roisin Murphy's Overpowered, my favorite diva-dance record of the last decade.

Melissa - Wow, wtf is this? French lady hiphop?

Chilean.

xposts re US Maple: Talker seconded. I also really enjoy Long Hair in Three Stages, which I'd put with Purple on Time as their more traditional albums (even though they are at opposite ends of their career and don't sound alike).

Ana Tijoux that's super intriguing, will check out

Alfred: ultimately I dig Roisin Murphy more in the context of Moloko than solo, which is why I picked the first Moloko album and the singles compilation (which btw is one of the best singles comps ever)

Ruby Blue is a great album though, and one I strongly considered for my list

How does a person become a fan of this stuff? This is not meant to be a dicky comment btw, I'm liking the first track. Instead it goes back to the Seward videos, where he was pulling out all these samba records that i've never seen him talk about on ilm* like an expert and i was just fascinated. how does someone get into chilean** ladyhop? i am cool with a dicky READ YR BLOGS esque comment to this btw, as long as someone provides the BLOGS to go with it

*not that i follow people closely, maybe ilv is full of this stuff.
**lol my mind cant really comprehend anything non english and now i feel like a dick

oh shit I didn't realize this album was within the window: http://open.spotify.com/album/18Tc3CrTP3lb8nMJnoRGSK

Hey, I had that Asobi Seksu album on my list! Hurrah!

So far, due to this, I've listened to a Booka Shade album, some Mya and I've discovered that I don't actually dislike Basement Jaxx after all. When I get back to work tomorrow I'm gonna listen to DJP's spotify playlist (or at least the albums I don't already own) and if that's a playlist that Melissa has made up there then that would make me the happiest girl in the world.

Would anyone be the slightest bit interested in a Spotify playlist based on my picks? Probably not...

Assuming you can get over the (occasional) language barrier, I can't recommend Capsule highly enough. Had I done write-ins on my ballot, I would've had probably four or five of their albums on there. They started off as somewhat of a Pizzicato 5 clone (still pretty first-rate, though) and slowly morphed into something more akin to a Japanese Basement Jaxx. They're really one of my top 5 bands from the past decade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLBZRZwiJ5w

les nubians was a group i reaaaaaaally wanted to hear once upon a time (lol the days when talib kweli guest spots had me bugging out at 13 years old) and my local hmv never got their records and by the time i could download i'd forgotten about them. added to the list. :D

wcc did you have schools of seven bells at #1? i think i already grabbed a bunch of things off your list (and i guess the seksu!) on my spotify playlist. but yeah, go ahead posting your own, mine my have become a bit too large.

how does someone get into chilean** ladyhop?

I go out of my way to hear cool stuff by Latina ladies when I hear about it, because I am a cool Latina lady*.

*some may disagree on my relative coolness

Well off this one recommendation, I'll happily agree on the cool Latina lady bit. That said, two foreign language records in a row is taking a toll, I think ima tap out and go get some food. It is a good record though, def. in the re-listen pile. Got that rawkus happy alt-hiphop vibe I used to love, also makes me think of that mercury winning ms dynamite album a lot. party like its 2001?

Yes I had SVIIB at number 1. I have still in the past 15 years, not loved a record on first hearing - and carried on loving it - quite as much as that first SVIIB record.

I love Alpinisms but it didn't have quite the same impact on me as it could have because I head Disconnect From Desire first and dialed directly into "Camarilla" as my platonic ideal of what I loved about the band.

Having said that "Iamundernodisguise" is amazing and a perfect album opener

An album that seemed to be strangely absent from most of the ballots I've seen is that Broadcast/Focus Group album from a few years back. It was astounding to me, even as a fan of Broadcast. One of the few instances (maybe the only instance?) that I agreed with The Wire about the album of the year.

I think SVIIB's albums are all so damn good that whichever one you hear first is going to push that "OMG this is the platonic ideal!" button for someone predisposed towards liking their kind of thing.

x-post I saw that Witch Cults record turn up on several people's lists!

(I voted for the wrong Broadcast record - I realised only after voting closed that I selected The Noise Made By People when I wanted to vote for Work And Non Work. D'oh!)

Witch Cults was on my ballot.

haven't picked up any new stuff out of other people's lists. ariel caralle reminds me that i neglected to consider oneida and zola jesus, which bums me out.

I goofed and left the On! Air! Library! album off my list. Somedays I like it more than Alpinisms, and definitely more than the followups.

Love that Witch Cults album.

I also want to point out the Gus Gus albums on my list, which have both aged spectacularly:

#89 Polydistortion (1997) http://open.spotify.com/album/5fxWFy7VEFTb3i1C8w7MNR
key tracks: "Gun", "Believe", "Why?", "Purple"

#11 This Is Normal (2001) http://open.spotify.com/album/28vsgjXJonjc34Je9HrFb1
key tracks: "Ladyshave", "Teenage Sensation", "Starlovers", "Snoozer"

I strongly considered adding Attention as well but ultimately felt it was too uneven: http://open.spotify.com/album/6FiqDpq028FAsCRQTIZzac
key tracks: "David", "Call of the Wild", "I.I.E."

http://open.spotify.com/album/6kbPC07HWF2QzSi0ZkSSZu - La Llorona by Lhasa de Sela, another cool Latina lady (RIP).

Capsule is also awesome, and were on my list, but not on Spotify, but you will just have to take my word for it and take the plunge on WORLD OF FANTASY.

Funnily enough, I had listened to Gus Gus before (due to stanning from certain quarters on another thread) but didn't feel familiar enough with it to include it.

listening to the Spotify playlist of my ballot on shuffle just had a skit from The Love Below ("Good Day, Good Sir") that ends with the line "Behold, a lady!" segue into "My Superman" by Santigold

xp: that second Gus Gus album is really, really great IMO

Damn, though, Dan, I do wish you would just make a compact list where you pick your fave track from each album, because that is, like, 20 hours of music or something.

dan did you just agree with yr own recommendation?

haha I can do that

in fact, I usually do a mondo EVERYTHING list and then a "personal fave" list, I just didn't because I was actually doing some work

xp: I like to think of it as reinforcing my own recommendation

You, too, Melissa! (Though to be fair, you have only posted 2 albums, not 20 billion.)

Wow, I am demanding about demanding Spotify playlists be made for me today, huh? ;-)

Yeah, I listened to Polydistortion not long ago for the first time in over a decade. It's amazingly good! I really don't think I thought much of it back in the day, so maybe my tastes have just caught up with it.

Okay, let me get started on that, WCC.

a hoy hoy, you could have found out about Tijoux here (not that there's anything wrong with not reading every sing post in every single thread here):

spanish language hip-hop

fauxmarc tends to just put stuff out there without jumping up and down drawing a lot of attention to himself, but I would recommend watching him more.

...http://peopleslist.pitchfork.com/list/71a7ac6b/ is the sort of list that fascinates me and might keep me going for the rest of 2012...

^^ looking at that list reminded me that i forgot 'OV' by orthrelm - clearly top 10 material.

rudi: those are the sort of threads i love. i currently have

Rolling African Dance / Urban Music Thread has new answers
Return of the World Music Thread: 2012 has new answers

in my bookmarks, where i'm making myself try to listen to a new youtube every day (usually every other day). my problem is really that i just dont follow up anything i hear and like.

Actually:

spanish language hip-hop

thread bookmarked, have nothing to add though :)

― 80085 (a hoy hoy), Saturday, February 20, 2010

and talking of not following things up, i'm listening to the SOSB record. It has a sound I adore, that kind of Stereolabby type thing but never feel compelled to buy into/repeat listen. Maybe its just because I don't know enough about it. Either way it is going onto what will become a massive relisten/download list.

ha! and i ctrl+f'd it - it was in my bookmarks and now I remember doing the exact thing i just said! i need to download stuff, repeat listen etc.

i think i've become too set in my ways for this. so far have managed to dislike asobi seksu, ana tijoux, capsule and orthrelm. d'angelo is great (!), but i knew that going in.

but hey, gus gus polydistortion is sounding pretty great atm! i remember disliking this album way back...

US Maple, I'd recommend Talker and Acre Thrills in roughly that order. Purple On Time (the only one in the P4k db) is about as traditional as they get.

^^ 'talker' is prob my fav - though i don't listen to 'acre thrills' in a long, long time. 'purple on time' is - without a doubt - the more tradicional album from them but it still deserves a lot of love. 'my lil' shocker' is such a stunning opener.

re broadcast: tender buttons was my number one. i would have put witch cults on my list but i tried to list only one record per artist. (i screwed up anyway and had two fennesz albums, ah well.)

Yeah, I listened to Polydistortion not long ago for the first time in over a decade. It's amazingly good! I really don't think I thought much of it back in the day, so maybe my tastes have just caught up with it.

― Old Lunch, Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:33 AM (12 minutes ago)

this, i guess

http://open.spotify.com/user/djperry1973/playlist/01gdGDqetro5AeAdposln1

Here's an abridged list, which has one song from each album on the original playlist with one caveat; the three double albums I picked (The Fragile, Speakerboxxx/The Love Below, Hurry Up, We're Dreaming) have one song from each disc

There is no strict pattern behind the songs I picked; some were because I love them, some were because I feel they are representative of the album. In some cases, I didn't want to pick a well known single but couldn't deny that that was the song I responded to most strongly; in other cases, I gravitated towards a song unlike most of the rest of the album that just speaks to me.

I think the only obscure-ish/under-the-radar things on my ballot were Bumblebeez 81, Giant Drag, maybe Charlotte Hatherley and Alpha... Bobby Conn's The Golden Age doesn't get nearly the amount of love it deserves. Write-ins I regret writing off: Spinanes - Arches & Aisles, Kleenex Girl Wonder - Graham Smith Is The Coolest Person Alive, Seekonk - Pinkwood, Gastr Del Sol - Camoufleur.

Eff it, here's my ballot again: http://peopleslist.pitchfork.com/list/351fd856/

^^ 'transmaniacon' and 'insignificance' could totally be on my list, if i remembered them. also great to see someone reppin' for the for carnation record - prob wouldn't be on my list if it weren't for the fact that nothing in there strikes me as much as 'emp man's blues'.

oh crap how did i not vote for that giant drag album?

so psyched about this thread b/c i can't parse the old thread anymore

here is my list, spotify playlist to come probably: http://peopleslist.pitchfork.com/list/1b34d33d/

also dan your placement of the year zero remix record might actually get me to listen to it?

Oh word? That's great! I think Year Zero is a decent album on its own but that remix album is absolutely next level; it makes several okay songs into genuinely great things (looking esp. at you "Capital G")

That's a fab list Brad. Good to see a lot of repping for The Drift. Those who voted for it though - how often do you/have you actually played it? It's a phenomenal bit of work but it's also one of the few bits of music I'm very often too scared to play.

i actually think i was making an unconscious point in having the drift so near to voodoo which are two records i listen to very rarely except when i am in an extreme mood

That's definitely how I feel about Moon Pix and some of Lisa Germano's albums. I start getting sucked into that world/headspace when I listen to them, so they're definitely just sometimes albums.

The Drift - I played it solidly for about a month when it came out. At least once a day. Then I probably listened to it 3 times a year at best for 5 years and much more regularly in the past 12 months.
I just realised that I missed Mary Timony off my list. I love Mountains and The Golden Dove. I feel like they need some post Bat For Lashes critical re-evaluation.
I started a spotify playlist for my list but inadvertently added a couple of albums from local files so I need to edit. consider it a work in progress.
Also, someone needs to re-issue the Life Without Buildings album right now. Any labels interested? I can help make it happen. I'm evangelical about the greatness of that band.
http://open.spotify.com/user/simonoblique/playlist/3Fc6bziQYfq2M9L7qN4Rn1

Life Without Buildings is that band with the album that I liked a lot whose name I can never seem to remember for more than 5 minutes. Had 'em confused with Architecture in Helsinki for forever. But I'm writing it down now!

http://open.spotify.com/user/chronochromie/playlist/3FALyasZw1k6BBnMX9BFAf - Promised playlist of one song each from all the albums on my ballot that are actually on Spotify.

I've seen a fair bit of love for that Mary Timony album on these lists. Know a few fans irl, so will definitely consider giving the whole thing a listen.

Maybe I'm a bit too jaded, but I can't imagine discovering more than one or two albums that I missed from that time period, up until 2009, which is when I stopped trying to keep up. Especially considering how much time I spent in college radio / working in a record store.

I had a list of ~100, but removed anything I couldn't recall listening to in the last year-plus. Thus, 38 made the cut: https://peopleslist.pitchfork.com/list/eb77b9b8/

Also, I should re-listen to Life Without Buildings, I remember liking it nearer the time of it coming out, but never owned it myself.

http://peopleslist.pitchfork.com/list/d173f3ce/ - this is mine for those who care. Not sure it's that original or that full of under-the-radar stuff, but then I don't know what is and isn't to you, so have a gander if you like :-)

I love earlier Helium and later Mary Timony solo stuff, but I still haven't properly delved into that late-period Helium/early solo Timony "Magic Era".

US Maple, I'd recommend Talker and Acre Thrills in roughly that order. Purple On Time (the only one in the P4k db) is about as traditional as they get.

^^ 'talker' is prob my fav - though i don't listen to 'acre thrills' in a long, long time. 'purple on time' is - without a doubt - the more tradicional album from them but it still deserves a lot of love. 'my lil' shocker' is such a stunning opener.

― rusty_allen, Tuesday, August 21, 2012 1:47 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'd say Acre Thrills is a pretty good midpoint to start with.....Talker is great but it's the US Maple's fan's US Maple record....Sang Phat Editor is great too and well shit they are basically the greatest band so

i have tried so so hard to get US maple.

on occasion, they've hit me just right and i've thought for a moment i might <<understand>>, but i always wake up the next morning with underpants on my head.

I'll repost my list here too. Pretty sure the order would be quite different if I did it again, but I've not had any head-smacking realisations of stuff I missed (though I might have not been cheeky and put my own band in there, ha). The one album I've found myself re-listening to the most from this exercise is the Tarwater one, which is bloody awesome, and it only hasn't been on heavy rotation in the intervening years because the LP is really flimsily pressed and skips a lot whatever the weighting.

dronestreet- i've never really 'kept up'. in fact such an idea frightens me off a bit, there is so much music out there that is *new to me* that i dont really care about somethings literal age. so i've spent the past ten years drifting in and out of canons (mostly hiphop and indie) and i have a world of discovery still ahead of me. i feel quite anxious about 'starting' genres like techno or noise or whatever but i can't imagine being jaded about it. so hopefully some of my enthusiasm may rub off :D

xxpost

I think you got it, then.

i am noticing a crazy amount of cLOUDDEAD on these lists. when did anticon type stuff stop being a joke? is this stuff worth relistening to? i hated it all when i was 15.

only about halfway through compiling my spotify playlist but it's gettin' real http://open.spotify.com/user/unbornwhiskey/playlist/4hDNgcCm3JXFuIQIKS1elu

i am noticing a crazy amount of cLOUDDEAD on these lists. when did anticon type stuff stop being a joke? is this stuff worth relistening to? i hated it all when i was 15.

― a hoy hoy, Tuesday, August 21, 2012 4:13 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol it never stopped being a joke, some people just never realized it

oh thank god.

spotify didn't have a lot of what i put on my list, but:

http://open.spotify.com/user/grannykart/playlist/5p7vsDk2F3M1dYLqi1mQBC

not gonna lie, I still bump the Boards of Canada remix of "Dead Dogs Two"

that's an excellent track.

you guys would bump a Boards of Canada remix of Rebecca Black, though

damn right.

wouldn't go that far

now a Boards of Canada remix of Farrah Abraham, that would get played for like a week straight

songs from albums i did not vote for but which are great and i wish i did and yeah:

Oneida - "Brownout In Lagos" (Rated O)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE5F2XYWmUo

Yura Yura Teikoku - "Machibito" (III)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTv8Gz0z36M

Magik Markers - "Body Rot" (Boss)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmYEZJ9r8VI

Dälek - "Classical Homicide" (From Filthy Tongues of Gods and Griots)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9rs9PSG9qE

Angel'in Heavy Syrup - "A Series of Water Mind..." (IV)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtng4G2tGd4

The BellRays - "Kill the Messenger" (Let It Blast)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8xXpXd18z8

not gonna lie, I still bump the Boards of Canada remix of "Dead Dogs Two"

― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Tuesday, August 21, 2012 1:37 PM (22 minutes ago)

^^^ (like the original track too tbh)

http://open.spotify.com/album/6kbPC07HWF2QzSi0ZkSSZu - La Llorona by Lhasa de Sela, another cool Latina lady (RIP).

― Melissa W, Tuesday, August 21, 2012 6:26 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I forgot about Lhasa when doing my list :-(

me too :-(

i hated it all when i was 15 = when did anticon type stuff stop being a joke?

Hm, yep, I definitely trust your 15 year old self to know what music 'is a joke' and isn't. Fucking twat.

tbh i still have p similar taste in hiphop now 9 years later.

lol awesome let's smoke out all the anticon apologists for proper ridicule

I ran out of time to make one of these. did anyone's list include either of these releases?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZWH0M57n5XQ/Tz15Tf4KakI/AAAAAAAAAdc/HNGBvaKRoo8/s1600/weabbw.jpghttp://www.thedirtbombs.net/images/albums_large/large_ifyoudont.jpg

lol awesome let's smoke out all the anticon apologists for proper ridicule

― some dude, Tuesday, August 21, 2012 10:51 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh no, some dude is going to ridicule me for liking better music than him, oh no oh help, watch me cry tears of blistering pain.

Oh, hang on a second, who had the Dismemberment Plan as their number one? That... doesn't seem to be me.

http://ih1.redbubble.net/work.5542900.1.sticker,375x360.boom-v1.png

did anyone's list include either of these releases?

no, though i did go for ultraglide in black. tbh, i just wasn't thinking of comps, though the 'bombs are obviously best represented by their singles.

if i had the chance to redo my ballot, i'd consider wolf eyes' dread and would definitely include if you don't already have a look.

emil.y i'm just fucking around, have a lifelong chip on my shoulder about anticon that i like to indulge

It'd be pretty cool if, a couple weeks from now, Pitchfork initiated The People's List Of Shit They Forgot To Include On The People's List.

Or indeed The Peoples List of Records They Stupidly Placed Way Too Low In The List.
Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out. Placement in my list (actual): 22. Placement in my list (If I could revise after relistening for the first time in a couple of years): 6.

My list: http://peopleslist.pitchfork.com/list/16b8d1d5/

Not sure what's obscure, a lot of it is quite ILXy even though I wasn't around for most of the timeframe. If you haven't heard Paavoharju then check them out.

thanks for reminding me to play Lindstrøm tonight!

That Low "Christmas" album is so handy as a thing to play on Christmas that won't alienate people but isn't the usual carols

i woulda voted for ultraglide in black if i'd remembered it. along with 900 other things.

ultraglide in black vomit

Couple of albums that possibly missed out because I didn't see them in the database (and I didn't do any write-ins): dEUS "In a Bar, Under the Sea", The Crepes "What Else", John Zorn "A Dreamers Christmas", Jonquil "Lions", Group Doueh "Guitar Music From Western Sahara", Richard Youngs "Sapphie", OOIOO "Feather Float", John Fahey "Georgia Stomps...", Faust "You Know Us".

If you haven't heard Paavoharju then check them out.

Made a note of this in the OG thread but it's more germane here: I checked out Paavoharju sight unseen after noticing their presence on a number of ballots and I'm very glad that I did.

http://peopleslist.pitchfork.com/list/7d38e3d1/

even though The Holy Bible is 94, they still had it on the ballot. not sure why it was on there (maybe bonus special edition stuff) but its incredible.

also, i left out Ween completely by accident and forgetfulness, but other than that I think this list sums up a lot of the past 16 years for me.

If this poll had covered the last 20 years, Ween would've been one of the most represented acts on my ballot rather than entirely absent.

you could've just voted for Tenacious D instead, same difference

Sorry to hear about that thing where you were born with no ears, some dude.

i just miss having all those ween threads to ruin haha

Surprise surprise, I love seandalai's list. Though he does include some stuff that I discounted - I went for no comps in the end, and stuff recorded in '77 (Langley Schools I'm looking at you) is pretty definitely a no-no in my book.

they are basically the greatest band so

Re: US Maple, no question

for some reason it's surprising to me that some dude doesn't dig Ween

nb I preferred the first draft of that post, "for some reason it's surprising to me that some dude doesn't go in for Ween," but it was voted down by the part of me that's not 12

they're really kinda whatever to me, i just get weirded out by the fervor of their fans who really want you to know those guys are more talented than the fucking beatles or something

To be fair, the Fucking Beatles were a pretty shitty band.

hey a hoy hoy, thanks for pointing out to my list upthread. it ended being a rough draft of sorts but i'm glad a few ilxors are getting something out of it.

ReRe: US Maple. you need to listen to acre thrills cos that's the paroxism of al johnson in terms of stealing/mocking every rockish vocal cliche out there. basically the guy never put together so many "ohyeahs", "alrights" and "heeeeeeys" as on acre. it is also their best 'riff' record to me. so so many great guitar lines, those two cats (rittmann + shippy) are undisputed champs in my book.

i meant paroxysm, sorry for the typo

I love that this thread is turning into a US Maple lovefest.

Well it is a thread about the best music of the last 15 years they were bound to come up

ultraglide in black vomit

― Gurdas Mane (crüt), Tuesday, August 21, 2012 6:39 PM (2 hours ago)

lol, not a fan i take it?

Couple of albums that possibly missed out because I didn't see them in the database (and I didn't do any write-ins): John Zorn "A Dreamers Christmas"... Group Doueh "Guitar Music From Western Sahara"...

― Cong rat ululations (seandalai), Tuesday, August 21, 2012 6:40 PM (2 hours ago)

aw shit. that's two more on the "forgot to remember" pile:

Masada Chamber Ensemble - Bar Kokhba
Group Doueh - Guitar Music From the Western Sahara

Surprise surprise, I love seandalai's list. Though he does include some stuff that I discounted - I went for no comps in the end, and stuff recorded in '77 (Langley Schools I'm looking at you) is pretty definitely a no-no in my book.

Yeah, I broke most of my self-imposed rules at various points. Langley Schools I half-rationalised on the basis that it was barely released first time round.

OK, there were only 2 things that really weren't on Spotify (Capsule and... someone else I've forgotten) and in some cases the album I chose wasn't available so I chose something else representative by that artist. I did it "backwards" so it starts with my number 50, one song from each album.

http://open.spotify.com/user/masonicboom/playlist/4EY0P1pseHIk5Vf90iFE2Y

Now I'm gonna start with some other lists, starting with Dan's. Awesome, looking forward to it!

woah, emily flew off the handle a bit upthread, chill out love.

Props to this thread for getting me to check out the Wolf Eyes/Braxton collabo...this is intense.

I'm still working my way thru' emil.y's list. So far I love Comet Gain and Matmos. Paavoharju was on both hers and seandalai's list I think and that has me more fascinated than head over heels in love atm. I keep going back to it tho' so there's something there just beyond my reach.

I should probably try to give When Saints Go Machine another go.

I do just have so much trouble with that guy's voice. But the track on Dan's list is nice in an Active Child sort of way.

WSGM's album is unassailable to my ears - it's like a warm bubblebath of sound for me. I get that people don't like the guy's voice, but it really doesn't bother me. I think it's fun to think of his voice as a celestial Chubby Checker rather than the obvious Antony comparison.

WCC: try "Church And Law" and "Konkylie" from that WSGM album; the former is a Knife-esque pop stomper and the latter is a madrigal

When Saints Go Machine is the first band in awhile that seems to both win fairly universal ILM approval and make me wonder if I'm maybe listening to a different WSGM than everyone else. I could not get into it at all. But then I used to despise Royal Trux, who are now one of my all-time favorites, so I know that some acts are growers.

dude's voice is an example of the importance of context for me; there are a bunch of things which I would (and do) consider ugly or unappealing about the way he sings, but he slots so well into the music that the negatives become positives and it all makes sense to me

seandalai's list is grrr8. as are many others. i'm feeling kinda left out after not getting around to this but the world probably won't miss a list topped by ys. or maybe i'd have been interestinger and gone for sapphie. the world will never know.

weird thing about wsgm's dude's voice is that on first listen he sounded exactly like arthur russell to me (like to the extent that i thought they had sampled a song i somehow hadn't heard), but now i hear only a slight touch of that in him.

DAMMIT I forgot to vote for of Montreal (corny indie fuX0rs etc blah blah)

btw re this wolf eyes / anthony braxton album - i have a hair police / wolf eyes split tape, the wolf eyes side of which is a braxton collab (even though it isn't credited as such) - is this the same thing?

dude's voice is an example of the importance of context for me; there are a bunch of things which I would (and do) consider ugly or unappealing about the way he sings, but he slots so well into the music that the negatives become positives and it all makes sense to me

― Lil Swayne of Pie (DJP), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 13:12 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTM. I would normally hate that kind of soft-pallet type thing, but it hey, it works here.

i like arthur russell too though.

Merdey: What's Sapphie?

i have a hair police / wolf eyes split tape, the wolf eyes side of which is a braxton collab (even though it isn't credited as such) - is this the same thing?

― emo mcgee vs ricky hitler (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, August 22, 2012 6:00 AM (2 hours ago)

somebody on discogs says that the wolf eyes side is a boot of the WE/braxton album. i don't own the tape, so i don't know for sure

Sapphie = amazing Richard Youngs album

http://www.pitchfork.com/peopleslist/

the list came out. radiohead were in the top ten of hiphop listeners twice.

damn you, Kanye

I don't know what I expected but this Radiohead/Radiohead/Arcade Fire/NMH result seemed all but inevitable and is really kind of depressing

what is it about In Rainbows? I just don't get that album at all, at least not as an entire body of work; there are individual songs on it that I like but none I've really felt compelled to go back and play

like, I feel like its placement/canonization is almost entirely due to the band giving it away for free

i think i was v wrong in expecting a bit more variety. not much more but meeeeh.

chill out love.

o_O

Sapphie = amazing Richard Youngs album

I totally prefer Beyond the Valley of Ultrahits, but I feel like I'm really missing something, because everyone raves about Sapphie. It seems like a much more standard acoustic guitar album to me, what is it that so captivates everyone?

lol, not a fan i take it?

― contenderizer, Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no I love ultraglide in black! I was riffing on "Black Vomit" which I posted upthread alongside the Dirtbombs comp.

anyway, bugger that, i'm back on the listening train. Picked Sexuality by Seb Tellier.

what is it about In Rainbows? I just don't get that album at all, at least not as an entire body of work; there are individual songs on it that I like but none I've really felt compelled to go back and play

like, I feel like its placement/canonization is almost entirely due to the band giving it away for free

tbh I feel like it's nearly impossible for any Radiohead album past, say, Amnesiac to really be evaluated fairly, on its own terms. In Rainbows is short and sweet but I think it's also the point where a lot of people realized, four years on since Hail to the Thief, that hey, maybe I'm not really a big fan of these guys despite what everyone tells me

also Wolf Eyes/Braxton is Anthony Braxton playing a live gig with Wolf Eyes. classic if only for the exchange at the beginning here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUzctEOvsh4

"Anthony, whaddya wanna hear man, 'Leper War' or 'Black Vomit'?"
"Black. Vomit."

tbh I feel like it's nearly impossible for any Radiohead album past, say, Amnesiac to really be evaluated fairly, on its own terms. In Rainbows is short and sweet but I think it's also the point where a lot of people realized, four years on since Hail to the Thief, that hey, maybe I'm not really a big fan of these guys despite what everyone tells me

― frogbs, Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:20 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

that theory would've held a lot more weight before King of Limbs

Radiohead's fine, but I barely listened to Hail To The Thief and haven't heard anything they've done since. And I have a suspicion that I only rate Kid A as highly as I do because it was a really amazing album to hear for the first time while doing whippits.

Hail To The Thief is easily my favorite album by Radiohead and I strongly encourage everyone to listen to it again, particularly "There There", "The Gloaming", "A Drunken Punchup At A Wedding" and "Myxomatosis"

I have bad news for you, ILX: for all the complaining about Radiohead that you're doing, you like Radiohead just as much as Pitchfork voters do.

Top artists by vote (unweighted)
rank - artist - number of votes

1 - Radiohead - 66
2 - Various Artists - 48
3 - OutKast - 42
4 - Animal Collective - 37
5 - Daft Punk - 34
6 - Kanye West - 33
7 - Jay-Z - 32
8 - Belle And Sebastian - 31
9 - Missy Elliott - 30
10 - Spoon - 30
11 - Boredoms - 29
12 - LCD Soundsystem - 28
13 - The Knife - 27
13 - Basement Jaxx - 27
13 - Erykah Badu - 27
13 - Björk - 27
13 - Broadcast - 27
14 - Boards of Canada - 26
14 - Destroyer - 26
15 - The-Dream - 25
16 - PJ Harvey - 24
17 - The Mountain Goats - 23
18 - Yo La Tengo - 21
18 - Ghostface Killah - 21
18 - Aphex Twin - 21
19 - The Strokes - 20
19 - Cat Power - 20
20 - Portishead - 19
20 - M.I.A. - 19
20 - Dizzee Rascal - 19
21 - Vampire Weekend - 18
21 - Stereolab - 18
21 - The Magnetic Fields - 18
21 - Panda Bear - 18
21 - Clipse - 18
22 - Robyn - 17
22 - The Avalanches - 17
22 - Sonic Youth - 17
22 - The Streets - 17
22 - DJ Shadow - 17
22 - Luomo - 17
22 - Joanna Newsom - 17
22 - Junior Boys - 17
23 - Sleater-Kinney - 16
23 - Air - 16
23 - Burial - 16
23 - Arcade Fire - 16
23 - Deerhoof - 16
24 - Scott Walker - 15
24 - Neutral Milk Hotel - 15
24 - Justin Timberlake - 15
24 - Kate Bush - 15
24 - Elliott Smith - 15
24 - D'Angelo - 15
25 - Studio - 14
25 - Spiritualized - 14
25 - Yeah Yeah Yeahs - 14
25 - Madvillain - 14
25 - Low - 14
25 - Caribou - 14
25 - Built to Spill - 14
25 - Jim O'Rourke - 14

(Oops, sorry for "various artists" at the top there, just move everyone else one ranking up)

lol I was expecting that

I've always felt like Hail was pretty underrated, there were just massive and IMO unreasonable expectations for it and when the result was "merely" very good a lot of people wrote it off. I do believe it could have snipped a song or two but that's really my go-to R-head album. I'm surprised many of these same fans praised In Rainbows so much, as it's really very similar to Hail, just shorter.

I totally prefer Beyond the Valley of Ultrahits, but I feel like I'm really missing something, because everyone raves about Sapphie. It seems like a much more standard acoustic guitar album to me, what is it that so captivates everyone?

I've had trouble getting into Ultrahits myself, for all that people rave about it :) Sapphie is definitely towards the accessible end of the Youngs spectrum, for me it marries the great drone/repetition you expect from RY with a more direct emotional connection.

Discovering the Herman Düne album 'Not On Top' has made this afternoon v enjoyable.

And we do like OK Computer, but not as much as Swedish pop, French house and Japanese noise, apparently. And Sinister still holds as much sway over ILX taste as Radiohead does.

Rank - Album - votes

1 - The Knife - Silent Shout - 24
1 - Daft Punk - Discovery - 24
2 - Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun - 20
3 - Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children - 19
4 - Belle And Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister - 18
4 - Björk - Homogenic - 18
4 - Radiohead - Kid A - 18
4 - Radiohead - OK Computer - 18
5 - The Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs - 17
5 - Portishead - Third - 17
5 - Jay-Z - The Blueprint - 17
5 - Erykah Badu - New Amerykah Part One: 4th World War - 17
5 - Dizzee Rascal - Boy in Da Corner - 17
5 - DJ Shadow - ...Endtroducing - 17
6 - The Avalanches - Since I Left You - 16
6 - Outkast - Aquemini - 16
6 - Panda Bear - Person Pitch - 16
6 - Aphex Twin - The Richard D. James Album - 16
7 - OutKast - Stankonia - 15
7 - Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea - 15
7 - Scott Walker - The Drift - 15
7 - D'Angelo - VooDoo - 15
8 - Radiohead - In Rainbows - 14
8 - Stereolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup - 14
8 - The Strokes - Is This It - 14
8 - Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen, We Are Floating in Space - 14
8 - Missy Elliott - Miss E: So Addictive - 14
8 - Kate Bush - Aerial - 14
8 - Burial - Untrue - 14
8 - Madvillain - Madvillainy - 14
9 - Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One - 13
9 - LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver - 13
9 - Destroyer - Kaputt - 13
10 - PJ Harvey - Let England Shake - 12
10 - Spoon - Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga - 12
10 - Studio - Yearbook 1 - 12
10 - Luomo - Vocalcity - 12
10 - Aaliyah - Aaliyah - 12
10 - Lightning Bolt - Wonderful Rainbow - 12
10 - Justin Timberlake - FutureSex/LoveSounds - 12
11 - The xx - The xx - 11
11 - The-Dream - Love vs. Money - 11
11 - William Basinski - The Disintegration Loops I-IV - 11
11 - The Streets - Original Pirate Material - 11
11 - Fever Ray - Fever Ray - 11
11 - Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele - 11
11 - M.I.A. - Kala - 11
12 - Vampire Weekend - Contra - 10
12 - Katy B - On a Mission - 10
12 - Basement Jaxx - Kish Kash - 10
12 - Daft Punk - Homework - 10
12 - Broadcast - Tender Buttons - 10
12 - Kanye West - Late Registration - 10
12 - Broadcast - The Noise Made by People - 10
12 - Cut Copy - In Ghost Colours - 10
12 - Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion - 10
13 - tUnE-yArDs - w h o k i l l - 9
13 - Robyn - Body Talk - 9
13 - Radiohead - Amnesiac - 9
13 - Massive Attack - Mezzanine - 9
13 - St. Vincent - Actor - 9
13 - Clipse - Lord Willin' - 9
13 - Cat Power - Moon Pix - 9
13 - Björk - Vespertine - 9
13 - Animal Collective - Sung Tongs - 9
13 - Junior Boys - Last Exit - 9
13 - Arcade Fire - Funeral - 9
13 - Kanye West - The College Dropout - 9
13 - Cat Power - You Are Free - 9
13 - Air - Moon Safari - 9
13 - Basement Jaxx - Rooty - 9
13 - Fugazi - The Argument - 9
13 - Ellen Allien & Apparat - Orchestra of Bubbles - 9
14 - Róisín Murphy - Overpowered - 8
14 - Tortoise - TNT - 8
14 - Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot - 8
14 - Orbital - In Sides - 8
14 - Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend - 8
14 - Ricardo Villalobos - Alcachofa - 8
14 - Sleigh Bells - Treats - 8
14 - Boredoms - Super Ae - 8
14 - J Dilla - Donuts - 8
14 - Bloc Party - Silent Alarm - 8
14 - Elliott Smith - Either/Or - 8
14 - M.I.A. - Arular - 8
14 - Fennesz - Endless Summer - 8
14 - Life Without Buildings - Any Other City - 8
14 - Broken Social Scene - You Forgot It in People - 8
14 - Lindstrøm - Where You Go I Go Too - 8
14 - Gang Gang Dance - Saint Dymphna - 8
14 - Diddy-Dirty Money - Last Train To Paris - 8
15 - Maxwell - BLACKsummers'night - 7
15 - The Dismemberment Plan - Emergency and I - 7
15 - Yo La Tengo - And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out - 7
15 - PJ Harvey - Stories From the City, Stories From the Sea - 7
15 - The-Dream - Love King - 7
15 - Michael Mayer - Immer - 7
15 - Owen Pallett - Heartland - 7
15 - Nicolas Jaar - Space Is Only Noise - 7
15 - T.I. - King - 7
15 - Of Montreal - Hissing Fauna, Are You the Destroyer? - 7
15 - The Rapture - Echoes - 7
15 - Sonic Youth - Murray Street - 7
15 - The-Dream - Love/Hate - 7
15 - Stars of the Lid - The Tired Sounds of Stars of the Lid - 7
15 - OutKast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below - 7
15 - Mark Hollis - Mark Hollis - 7
15 - Yeah Yeah Yeahs - It's Blitz! - 7
15 - Sufjan Stevens - Illinois - 7
15 - Destroyer - Destroyer's Rubies - 7
15 - Dr. Octagon - Octagonecologyst - 7
15 - Lady Gaga - The Fame Monster - 7
15 - Lindstrøm & Christabelle - Real Life Is No Cool - 7
15 - Hercules and Love Affair - Hercules and Love Affair - 7
15 - DJ Quik / Kurupt - BlaQKout - 7
15 - Built to Spill - Keep it Like a Secret - 7
15 - Annie - Anniemal - 7
15 - Black Dice - Beaches & Canyons - 7
15 - Beyoncé - 4 - 7
15 - Bat For Lashes - Two Suns - 7
15 - Caribou - Swim - 7
15 - Britney Spears - Blackout - 7
15 - Bonnie "Prince" Billy - I See a Darkness - 7
15 - Janelle Monáe - The ArchAndroid - 7
15 - Andrew W.K. - I Get Wet - 7
15 - Destiny's Child - The Writing's On the Wall - 7
15 - Electrik Red - How To Be A Lady, Volume 1 - 7

If anyone wants weighted list, I'll do one tommorrow? Also let me know if anyone wants a spreadsheet of the data.

ha i didn't realize you were talking about THESE results, sorry for being a dick on the other thread

ilx likes Vision Creation Newsun more than Super Ae? weird

I'd love to see a weighted list if possible, please, WCC.

I wanna Seksu up

If anyone wants weighted list, I'll do one tommorrow? Also let me know if anyone wants a spreadsheet of the data.

― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:53 AM (7 minutes ago)

love the ILX list, so maybe i don't hate consensus after all. just wrong consensus.

Can definitely get with the People of ILX

dronestreet- i've never really 'kept up'. in fact such an idea frightens me off a bit, there is so much music out there that is *new to me* that i dont really care about somethings literal age. so i've spent the past ten years drifting in and out of canons (mostly hiphop and indie) and i have a world of discovery still ahead of me. i feel quite anxious about 'starting' genres like techno or noise or whatever but i can't imagine being jaded about it. so hopefully some of my enthusiasm may rub off :D

― a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 20:09

oh yeah, i definitely still listen and engage with "new" material often. i wouldn't say that i "care" about something's literal age, but it is something i'm aware of. thus i can say that most of my listening energy is directed towards pre-1996 material. but yeah...finding whole subgenres/movements/discographies that i had no idea about is still exciting. i'm enthusiastic about music! just not about catching the newest arcade fire record. :)

oh dear god no. (and i like the first two arcade fire records, i just never feel i need to listen to that band again)

i turned off Sexuality, the plodding synths were only adding to my headache and tried Sapphie which... is long and I was not in the mood to pay attention to some folk epic craziness.

Sapphie is definitely towards the accessible end of the Youngs spectrum, for me it marries the great drone/repetition you expect from RY with a more direct emotional connection.

something like this, although rly i dunno. it's all in the gut and the back of the head. he just kills me every time he tries to go all out beautiful with the droney/repetitive stuff (my other favourite is probably the one with makoto kawabata,, thanks to it i have some wonderful memories of cross-country megabus trips, and i am probably the only person in the world to have those). i do like ultrahits a lot too though, and tbh almost everything he's done.

i'm always a bit hesitant to recommend sapphie to people cuz the first two people i did recommend it to, going on their tastes and my loving it, were driven mental by whatever it is in particular he does with repetition.

I should probably track down that Youngs/Kawabata thing.

oh hey, i had never heard overpowered before and it's great! thx alfred

There's a quote somewhere in the archives about how every time ILM runs a big poll, at least one person discovers Overpowered for the first time and falls in love with it. For me it was the 2005-2009 poll.

oh my god this record really truly rules

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIiQX0FFDLs

turns out this is gorgeous and completely insane

I guess I'm not very compatible with either Pitchfork or ILX mainstream, my top album list only 3 in common with both the Pitchfork top 200 and Kate's list above (and they're the same three: Fever Ray, Aquemini, ArchAndroid)... Too much non-indie friendly dance music, German techno, and Finnish rap, I guess? But here's a Spotify playlist of my favourite tunes from those albums anyway, in case anyone wants to check it out:

http://open.spotify.com/user/tuomaskuomas/playlist/3mFnss2InscDVGyhBYkPC5

'Sapphie' is all about the emotional connection. 'Soon It Will Be Fire' = astounding, yet very simple.

Overpowered is the best, BradNelson otm

tuomas did you do a list?

Yeah, it's here:

http://peopleslist.pitchfork.com/list/3122a1e0/

The tracks on my Spotify list are the best tracks from those albums.

i know it really doesnt matter but shit man, thanks for reminding me i forgot mop! i feel ashamed.

Great list. I need to find my copy of that Nicolette album.

I forgot to add plenty of essential stuff too, like Nas' God Son.

oh man tuomas, your list is killer

Anyone posted this yet? It's great.

http://lindsayzoladz.tumblr.com/post/29966963774/dont-blame-us-four-women-talk-about-why-they-didnt

not here, but it got a good talking over in the main thread

Posting links is kind of narcissistic.

Posting links is kind of narcissistic.

btw, i hope i didn't come across as dismissive, hurting. was just trying to answer the question. it's a good piece, and there's no reason not to post & discuss it here, too, especially considering how fast the ground moves in the main "people's list" thread.

an <<unnamed poster>> objected to the term "narcissism" in the other thread, suggesting that it's an unnecessarily disparaging way to characterize the act of making a goat list and sending it out out into the world. though i'm on board with the article overall, i suppose i see the point. it doesn't seem any more pathologically self-regarding than most of what we do for fun on the internet. nerdy, sure. self-important, maybe. narcissistic? eh, i'm not so sure. a minor quibble...

^^ white dude making fun things less fun

No offense, but I'm personally content with leaving all that shit in the other thread. This should be the safe place where we exercise our narcissism without fretting over it. IMNO.

ok, cool. was trying to be welcoming of hurting's post, not thinking about the stated focus of this thread.

Is there a (publicly available) complete list of contributors, so that you can look at individual ballots from a list of names? I'm guessing not, given the number of voters.

have you guys ever heard of radiohead, thinking of checking him out

the internet told me they were good, and i said "ok, computer!"

Would like to register my thanks to Tim F for making me check out Aim High Vol 2. Listened only 1.5 times so far and already thinking I'm gonna love this more than half the stuff on the list I submitted.

Imo, the p4k staff picks are the only worthwhile aspect of this whole exercise: http://pitchfork.com/news/47538-the-peoples-list-our-staffs-picks/

As well as the individual lists on here, of course.

Nitsuh Abebe isn't on there, tho :(

let's talk about the inadequate life i maintained before hearing the present lover this evening

Is this still a safe space for lists and rankings of ILX ballots, though? Because I did a weighted one. It's not hugely different but at least irons out some of those endless tie ballots. It is, predictably, a very ~ILM~ list.

1 - Daft Punk - Discovery - 1753
2 - The Knife - Silent Shout - 1565
3 - Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun - 1344
4 - Björk - Homogenic - 1340
5 - D'Angelo - VooDoo - 1263
6 - Portishead - Third - 1231
7 - Belle And Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister - 1221
8 - Radiohead - Kid A - 1220
9 - The Avalanches - Since I Left You - 1189
10 - Erykah Badu - New Amerykah Part One: 4th World War - 1186
11 - The Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs - 1167
12 - Stereolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup - 1153
13 - Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children - 1125
14 - Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea - 1092
15 - Scott Walker - The Drift - 1073
16 - Radiohead - OK Computer - 1055
17 - Panda Bear - Person Pitch - 1053
18 - Dizzee Rascal - Boy in Da Corner - 1037
19 - DJ Shadow - ...Endtroducing - 1034
20 - Jay-Z - The Blueprint - 1025
21 - Luomo - Vocalcity - 994
22 - OutKast - Stankonia - 941
23 - Aphex Twin - The Richard D. James Album - 937
24 - The Strokes - Is This It - 920
25 - Madvillain - Madvillainy - 910
26 - Outkast - Aquemini - 903
27 - Destroyer - Kaputt - 882
28 - Spiritualized - Ladies and Gentlemen, We Are Floating in Space - 856
29 - Burial - Untrue - 850
30 - Aaliyah - Aaliyah - 848
31 - Radiohead - In Rainbows - 846
32 - LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver - 837
33 - Studio - Yearbook 1 - 818
34 - Missy Elliott - Miss E: So Addictive - 814
35 - Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One - 803
36 - PJ Harvey - Let England Shake - 753
37 - The-Dream - Love vs. Money - 749
38 - Animal Collective - Sung Tongs - 740
39 - Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele - 724
40 - Boredoms - Super Ae - 720
41 - William Basinski - The Disintegration Loops I-IV - 712
42 - Kate Bush - Aerial - 707
43 - M.I.A. - Kala - 693
44 - Kanye West - Late Registration - 685
45 - The Streets - Original Pirate Material - 674
46 - The xx - The xx - 671
47 - Daft Punk - Homework - 661
48 - Justin Timberlake - FutureSex/LoveSounds - 660
49 - tUnE-yArDs - w h o k i l l - 650
50 - Life Without Buildings - Any Other City - 650
51 - Broadcast - The Noise Made by People - 648
52 - Kanye West - The College Dropout - 641
53 - Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion - 636
54 - Fever Ray - Fever Ray - 635
55 - Vampire Weekend - Contra - 624
56 - Diddy-Dirty Money - Last Train To Paris - 616
57 - Cut Copy - In Ghost Colours - 612
58 - Massive Attack - Mezzanine - 606
59 - Orbital - In Sides - 598
60 - Spoon - Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga - 596
61 - Of Montreal - Hissing Fauna, Are You the Destroyer? - 591
62 - Lightning Bolt - Wonderful Rainbow - 591
63 - Arcade Fire - Funeral - 591
64 - Broadcast - Tender Buttons - 586
65 - The-Dream - Love/Hate - 575
66 - Bloc Party - Silent Alarm - 574
67 - Basement Jaxx - Rooty - 573
68 - Junior Boys - Last Exit - 555
69 - Róisín Murphy - Overpowered - 548
70 - Cat Power - You Are Free - 548
71 - Vampire Weekend - Vampire Weekend - 533
72 - Björk - Vespertine - 531
73 - Fugazi - The Argument - 524
74 - Clipse - Lord Willin' - 502
75 - Maxwell - BLACKsummers'night - 499
76 - Gang Gang Dance - Saint Dymphna - 499
77 - Black Dice - Beaches & Canyons - 489
78 - Andrew W.K. - I Get Wet - 484
79 - Caribou - Swim - 478
80 - M.I.A. - Arular - 473
81 - Basement Jaxx - Kish Kash - 472
82 - Robyn - Body Talk - 464
83 - Fall Out Boy - Folie à Deux - 462
84 - Katy B - On a Mission - 462
85 - J Dilla - Donuts - 457
86 - Mark Hollis - Mark Hollis - 456
87 - St. Vincent - Actor - 454
88 - Electrik Red - How To Be A Lady, Volume 1 - 454
89 - Radiohead - Amnesiac - 449
90 - Tortoise - TNT - 448
91 - Destroyer - Destroyer's Rubies - 446
92 - Lindstrøm & Christabelle - Real Life Is No Cool - 445
93 - Pulp - We Love Life - 442
94 - Sonic Youth - Murray Street - 441
95 - Ricardo Villalobos - Alcachofa - 441
96 - Gas - Pop - 436
97 - Autechre - LP5 - 436
98 - Yo La Tengo - And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out - 434
99 - Fennesz - Endless Summer - 430
100 - The Dismemberment Plan - Emergency and I - 428

Awesome. I like that list a lot. Thanks WCC.

I'm not sure on one hand complaining about how predictable p4k list is yet a predictable ilm poll is ok. I like plenty on both lists i guess but my top list would be quite different.

Oh man, I hate to say it but that really is a 'very ILM' top ten. Still, whaddya expect?

exactly its no big deal really. We just shouldn't pretend its a great list just because its ilm , its not really a big diverse list covering everything is it but nor would i expect it to be. Same for p4k.

but , as with all lists, if some people discover good albums they did not know about its a good thing.

Although I'm loving that Sung Tongs and LP5 are voted the best albums by AC and Ae respectively, rather than say MPP and Confield which are those bands' "New Jersey"s

that list is great, kerr, who didnt vote, is just annoyed there is no metal on it

Everyone always thinks that the music they like represents this vast diverse tapestry whereas the music they don't like and other people do represents a tiny segment of the dizzying possibilities out there.

I didn't say it was bad or great did I? Infact I said I liked plenty on it.

xp

Well there are different objections being raised. "This list was not diverse because it did not represent my favourite genre" versus "This list was not diverse because there are no women or brown people or gay people or artists from outside the US/UK" are different issues that are being conflated quite a bit for reasons which were exhaustively discussed on the other thread, so reason to get into it again blah blah blah shut up WCC etc forever

Thanks for compiling the list WCC

No probs. I had a lot of fun with the data - though I can now understand why P4k might have excluded write-ins due to inconsistent spelling, punctuation, etc. (Why did half of you write Notorious B.I.G and half write Notorious B.I.G. why can't we all just get along?)

Biggie exceeds all grammatical pigeonholes.

xp ^^^ this is why we have nominations for the EOY polls

Disappointed he didn't make it into our top 200.

gah that's the worst things with sorting the raw data out for Glenn in the metal polls. His old program was good at catching stuff but I still had to keep an eye out. RIP needle. (the program we used has been shut down by google)
But it's a good reason to have a nominations list. Just imagine the hassle Glenn had doing P&J with peoples lists. However bad you think it is then multiply it by like 1000000% as he's told me of some of the things he's had to do. Hopefully he can write something for P&J poll but he doesn't think he can do metal poll as well sadly.

It is still more fun to do it with pop stars and albums than it is to do it for e.g. the inconsistent Gaelic spelling of Irish implant patients' names which is the kind of thing I've had to do for dayjobs. :-/

I can imagine. But with the current poll I'm running; irish gaelic names will be no problem for seandalai who is tabulating ;)

cheers for listings WCC.

Quick question - what's the most unusual/surprising appearance in the ILM list?

Most ilxors (i.e. niche genre fans excepted) are very happy with ilx poll results, so is it reasonable to expect that most of your standard ordinary non-music writer reader is quite happy with the pitchfork list?

Boredoms placing that high was the biggest surprise for me.

(And also that so many people on ILM still rate B&S, it's odd to see a reappraisal but I suppose it has been quite some time.)

Boredoms have always been really popular on ilm (as they should be)

For me, Belle and Sebastian: I know ILM has historically been a home to B+S fandom but I can't remember the last time I saw them discussed here.

you're just in denial!

I think IYFS probably sits in people's long term affection banks pretty neatly.

B & S and New Order will always be around on ilm

I included it and I wasn't a Sinister import.

I probably wouldn't have included it, but it's odd for me to think of it as being in the time period of the poll. Like, there's such a strict delineation in my life of "when I went back to the UK" (which was 97/98 or thereabouts) that music from before that might as well be from another lifetime. This is completely personal and nothing to do with anything, but it is why I tend to see 97/98 as a kind of time cut-off point, rather than 00/01.

Yeah I don't really listen to VCNS or IYFS that much any more, but I know what a huge impact they had on me at the time and so voted accordingly.

I do wonder how many B&S/New Order (or insert other older bands that are applicable) fans are still on ILM but kinda gave up on new music but still love love love the albums from when they were younger and into music so will for some reason vote?
Not a criticism btw .

WCC - yeah, for me the cut off is probably the same - 1996 and 1998 feel like worlds apart.

95/96 is more my cut off tbh

Thanks foor the lists, WCC!

Just curious, for anyone who helped get the first three Basement Jaxx albums into the top 100 (kudos on that): did you vote for (or do you rate) Scars? Crazy Itch Radio was, I know, kind of a letdown, and I think a lot of fans drifted after that one. But Scars contains several of what are now among my favorite Jaxx songs. Just wonderin', since I don't recall seeing it on ballots other than my own.

lol Basement Jaxx appearing was around the time i moved away from dance music. (never liked them) I had actually typed something about it out but deleted it in my last post.

I definitely have my own lingering nostalgia favourites too - I voted for the first GYBE album even though I haven't listened to it in at least 5 years and I don't think I even have the CD anymore.

yeah i still love those gybe albums

I do wonder how many B&S/New Order (or insert other older bands that are applicable) fans are still on ILM but kinda gave up on new music but still love love love the albums from when they were younger and into music so will for some reason vote?

Probably a load of them jumped off into dance music or pop fandom and stopped paying as much attention to modern indie.

Oh god no, Scars is the one Jaxx album I actively despise.

The song "Scars" is great though

i still love most of the albums i bought actually from back then. The few i didnt i obviously got rid of (like Head Music for example)

I never really made bad purchases thankfully.

xp

Probably a load of them jumped off into dance music or pop fandom and stopped paying as much attention to modern indie.

good point. In the same way i jumped off the dance music bus

thanks for doing the list WCC. although where I can find out what albums were distinctive to estonia?

Just curious, for anyone who helped get the first three Basement Jaxx albums into the top 100 (kudos on that): did you vote for (or do you rate) Scars? Crazy Itch Radio was, I know, kind of a letdown, and I think a lot of fans drifted after that one. But Scars contains several of what are now among my favorite Jaxx songs. Just wonderin', since I don't recall seeing it on ballots other than my own.

― Old Lunch

Voted for Kish Kash, Rooty was one of the last albums I cut from my list. I actually think Crazy Itch Radio is kind of underrated but obviously not in the same league as the first three albums. Scars was their first really weak album. Scars, Feeling Good, Raindrops and Day Of The Sunflowers are the keepers but the rest is pretty poor.

great list.

today i am listening to cut copy's in ghost colours and loving it. i've heard it before though, so its not a new discovery, just another record i forget about easily. (this will change now i've downloaded it and put it on my ipod, along with that platinum pied pipers record)

and when i said great list, what i meant was kudos to wcc for putting the work in.

albums unique to the ILX list:

3 - Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun - 1344
21 - Luomo - Vocalcity - 994
30 - Aaliyah - Aaliyah - 848
33 - Studio - Yearbook 1 - 818
34 - Missy Elliott - Miss E: So Addictive - 814
37 - The-Dream - Love vs. Money - 749
40 - Boredoms - Super Ae - 720
41 - William Basinski - The Disintegration Loops I-IV - 712
42 - Kate Bush - Aerial - 707
50 - Life Without Buildings - Any Other City - 650
51 - Broadcast - The Noise Made by People - 648
56 - Diddy-Dirty Money - Last Train To Paris - 616
59 - Orbital - In Sides - 598
62 - Lightning Bolt - Wonderful Rainbow - 591
64 - Broadcast - Tender Buttons - 586
65 - The-Dream - Love/Hate - 575
68 - Junior Boys - Last Exit - 555
69 - Róisín Murphy - Overpowered - 548
74 - Clipse - Lord Willin' - 502
75 - Maxwell - BLACKsummers'night - 499
76 - Gang Gang Dance - Saint Dymphna - 499
77 - Black Dice - Beaches & Canyons - 489
78 - Andrew W.K. - I Get Wet - 484
81 - Basement Jaxx - Kish Kash - 472
83 - Fall Out Boy - Folie à Deux - 462
84 - Katy B - On a Mission - 462
85 - J Dilla - Donuts - 457
86 - Mark Hollis - Mark Hollis - 456
88 - Electrik Red - How To Be A Lady, Volume 1 - 454
90 - Tortoise - TNT - 448
92 - Lindstrøm & Christabelle - Real Life Is No Cool - 445
93 - Pulp - We Love Life - 442
94 - Sonic Youth - Murray Street - 441
95 - Ricardo Villalobos - Alcachofa - 441
96 - Gas - Pop - 436
97 - Autechre - LP5 - 436
99 - Fennesz - Endless Summer - 430

so, 63% of our top 100 overlaps with the Pitchfork top 200, which indicates to me that as a group we like the same types of things as the Pitchfork constituency with a bias towards album like the ones on the unique list

But when you look at the demographic makeup of the albums that don't overlap (e.g. highest lady/co-ed % content of all the amalgamated lists yet) it shows you what kind of things we pay attention to that they don't?

Now that is a list I can get behind.

xp: yes absolutely, but the ever-shrinking sample size artificially inflates the percentages

Also, notice that there's only one album in the top 20 that doesn't appear on the Pitchfork list, as compared to when you get down into the 80s and 90s, where 14 out of those 20 albums are unique to us; the implication is that the general consensus is building around the same types of albums, and as you go further down the list, you start running into albums with a few passionate boosters (which can be a noticeable effect in this small a ballot pool) or albums that a bunch of people "like" rather than "love" (although I am not sure if there were enough ballots in our sample size to support this hypothesis; I need to scroll back up to the unweighted list to verify)

Basically, I think there is absolutely a difference in values when it comes to evaluating music shown on this board, but not so different that it makes us a universe apart from the Pitchfork nexus (also unsurprising considering how many writers who have been published by Pitchfork have gone through and helped shape ILX into the community it is).

The major thing I'm not taking into account is the natural bias the Pitchfork poll enforced upon album selection by offering up a database of all of the albums they reviewed; this would be an interesting exercise to do just using the AMG or discogs.com database to see how the end result would change without that implicit bias.

xp: yes absolutely, but the ever-shrinking sample size artificially inflates the percentages

I don't actually think so. Because shrunk sample sizes of the drill downs on Pitchfork didn't produce inflation in the same way.

I mean, not that there aren't passionate boosters affecting the ILX taste. There are. But we have passionate boosters who are willing to stan on stuff outside the SWM demographic. But whatever, belabouring a point.

I think that's a restatement of what I said in my second paragraph, actually! The initial playing field is very Pitchforky, but as you go down the list more idiosyncratic choices that reflect the ILX cant start emerging.

The major thing I'm not taking into account is the natural bias the Pitchfork poll enforced upon album selection by offering up a database of all of the albums they reviewed; this would be an interesting exercise to do just using the AMG or discogs.com database to see how the end result would change without that implicit bias.

For sure. Like I said in the other thread, I put together a ballot basically so my brother and I could compare lists, and I favored the aesthetics of having album covers present over contributing an uncompromised ballot (and to be perfectly honest witchoo, I didn't even realize that this whole exercise was for an actual poll until after I'd already completed my ballot). So, yeah, my legit ballot would look way, way different.

Thanking u v v much for the list, WCC. And thanking everyone for this even-tempered thread.

So have been working my way thru' the Top 20 of emil.y's list, mainly because the majority of her whole list was entirely unfamiliar to me.

Comet Gain and Herman Düne have cheered me greatly. Matmos and Tarwater I liked a whole lot as well.

I'm not sure what to make of Paavoharju, I keep going back to it but I'm not sure that I could be said to enjoy it. It's a bit beyond me I think.

Have just dipped a toe outside the Top 20 and Eleanoora Rosenholm is doing it for me right now. I think this may have come up on the EOY poll? Not sure.

Yeah, me and a few others were repping for Eleanoora Rosenholm. Was actually introduced to them by Algerian Goalie, and am very grateful. They're something of a concept band, but it isn't obvious to non-Finnish speakers.

Also, I'm greatly flattered that you're listening to my list!

I need to check into Eleonoora Rosenholm one day... That track Kerr used to play in Outloud was pretty cool. Too bad you don't get the lyrics, they were funny.

About halfway through Orchestra of Bubbles by Ellen Allien & Apparat. I think I love this? idk I don't really have anything to frame it in or compare, so I may do a bit of reading.

Paavoharju's second album Laulu Laakson Kukista is also great by the way, even contains some relatively pop moves.

tempted to put together a list for this posthumously

why because bored.

only listened to the first two luomo records the past 12 hours

thank you crucial people who put vocalcity and the present lover on your lists

it's interesting to compare the p4rk and ILX top 100 lists mostly because they're not so terribly different. ILX is a good deal more inclusive of female and nonwhite artists, which is great, but musically the main difference is that p4rk skews towards indie rock, while ILX skews towards electronic music, pop, rap and R&B. makes me wish i were more fond of those genres...

i mean i like rap and some pop, but my primary interests draw me in other directions.

Listening to Dagger Paths by Forest Swords. This, again, ticks the boxes of something I'm totally down with but don't know enough about or when it would grab me to listen again. It's fascinating though. A kind of dubby indie vocal less Gang Gang Dance type of thing?

only listened to the first two luomo records the past 12 hours

thank you crucial people who put vocalcity and the present lover on your lists

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:24 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

incredible albums btw

only listened to the first two luomo records the past 12 hours

Such fantastic recs. I absolutely love 'em.

holy crap the thing tuomas picked at #1. this is so crazy beautiful.

It's amazing, isn't it? Probably my favourite techno album of the 90s, it's so timeless and evocative.

it was one of the best things i've heard recently. i've been making a list of things i need to download from this and relisten to, it has gone to the top of my list.

i've been trying to listen to one or two records from the spotify playlist i made a day

saturday i found out i like some noisy blues band called califone. listened to some decent but forgettable alt hiphop, that brand new record i knew i liked but never spent time with, some other things that didn't grab me. this morning i listened to the chemical brothers 'come with us' because of dans list. i'd only ever heard a greatest hits. it was good! a lot less 'lol we really like tomorrow never knows' than i remember them being, so i really enjoyed it.