Thread for Ty Dolla $ign ( Ty$ )'s "My Cabana

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wpOQyByqcU

his full tape just dropped & i revisited this track & its still dope. also apparently he's signed to Atlantic now.

#HowManyHooooooose

that lack of a closed quote is gonna drive me up the wall. mods?

IS THIS THE NEXT BROWN?

lol fucked that up

obv this is a jam but he seems kind of lobotomized in the video tho?

Listening to his tape as I type. Good stuff.

obv this is a jam but he seems kind of lobotomized in the video tho?

― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, October 2, 2012 3:00 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

video is awesome imo. this is what the weeknd should have been

hes looking @ party thru smoke 4 sure

obv this is a jam but he seems kind of lobotomized in the video tho?

― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, October 2, 2012 4:00 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

yeah his demeanor in the video was cracking me the fuck up

i dig this song. i like that there are parts where he really sings cuz for most of it, it's sort of a rap/singing mix but in a weird way

can someone link to the mixtape? i'm lazy

how many HOOOOOOOOOOEEEEES

http://www.datpiff.com/Ty-Dolla-ign-Beach-House-mixtape.402161.html

"

huh, kind of surprised he didnt produce any of beach house

also love that we now have two Ty$ threads

what's the other?

hes looking @ party thru smoke 4 sure

― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Tuesday, October 2, 2012 8:27 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha

like

xxp i give him half the credit for 'toot it and boot it'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DSeb8FO70M

the og toot it & boot it is credited to ty$ feat yg and tee cee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tElI4ZRMp08&feature=player_embedded

his beat and hook, right?

dont know about beat but yeah verses are yg & tee cee

ahh. how raer to get two ILX feature threads

if only he knew what an accomplishment that was

she got butt pads on thats a fail

this mixtape is really good thx

just realised that 'DRUGS!' is a producer tag and not a statement of intent like juicy j's 'STRIPPERS!' on 'bands a..'

this is deeply unpleasant, like an overtly mysogynist phil collins

i admit there's a certain frisson to hearing the bizarre clownishness of "hooooooes" sung with the drama and urgency of phil singing abt homelessness for profit but still

you realize we just established that this is the guy who coined 'toot it and boot it' right

*u* just established that yah, erryone else knew

Oooh deep zing

saying "we just established" when what happened is you were informed of something u didn't know is hilarious. anyway yees i realize right.

track is great.

i have an unarticulated psychic line over which misogyny becomes too much and this crosses it

i have listened to it on repeat a bunch tho

saying "we just established" when what happened is you were informed of something u didn't know is hilarious. anyway yees i realize right.

― zvookster, Wednesday, October 3, 2012 12:55 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

weve established implied the collaborative nature of the conclusion reached im sure i was not the only one who didnt initially connect the dots
point was idk why ur shocked the guy who coined a chorus abt farting on a girl & kicking her out his house as the hook for a rap song says dumb shit about women.

anyway 'zone'n' is a much creepier ty$ song

"farting on a girl"

uh

farting on a girl

uh really?

xp !

if it just means hit it & quit it thats way more boring i assumed 'toot it' was based around farting after sex or something

if not thats kind of disappointing

i don't know what to make of you right now

i recall a rumor going around about the farting thing anyway

im not defending this behavior! lol

dude. it just means "hit it and quit it".

That one guy who toot it and boot it

that's some urbandictionary "soulja boy REALLY means blah blah blah" lvl shit

is toot it cali slang normally

anyway irrespective of my latest 'rocking chair' incident, pt is its still no surprise

haha. right, right.

damn this is like when portishead came back and dropped 'third'

fuck that retro shit this is the best r kelly song in years

propose you all conspire to pull a wut and make it ilx tune of 2012

'toot it and boot it was about farting' is the new 'trillville sampled a rocking chair' for real

lol didn't see a few posts ago

link to rocking chair thread?

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

fyi & for clarification,

i was skipping thru the trillville CD & heard a creaking noise & w/out listening to the song I assumed it was a rocking chair

i didnt think toot it & boot it was JUST abt farting btw

thought it was their way 2 be extra-disrespectful in a one night stand or something

Deej I LOVE this.

the song, or me thinking toot it & boot it was about farting, or both? lol

The song but both really.

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

― longneck, Wednesday, October 3, 2012 1:46 PM Bookmark

^this is an otm post

It is the only thing that can keep me going these days.

the how many hooooooooooos melody line is really striking, almost mournful? really comes out of nowhere too, genuinely surprising in the track...

it's like he knows he's asking a question that can't be answered and he's sad abt the hoes

yeah totes, also possibly

i. sudden self admonishment, like how many hoooooooooes must be consumed to fill this great lack in my cold dead heart

ii. sudden empathy for the entire female gender, like how many hoooooooooes in this world that could have been doctors and nurses

In the video he's also especially sad that he could only get three hoes in his cabana. There should have been more, obviously.

http://i.imgur.com/jsQ6Q.gif

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOES

but yeah for reals the sudden pathos was mainly why i felt invoking kells to be appropriate

kinda soundalike too at a borderline pinch

not surprised this guy's signed, halfway into this mixtape i'm scrambling for my imaginary chequebook too

this song is very squishy and splashy to me. very appropriate feel for a song about a cabana.

His demeanor is odd, as ppl noted he projects a real blankness, and not an affected blankness, like say a post punk thing, but just absolute nothing

it's fucking hilarious. i have to imagine it's on purpose.

yeah it's p affected imo, i'm flicking through his mixtape and some videos from last year and the vibe is surprisingly way more tryhard and muddled. most certainly not this cool blank faded cat posting fractals on his tumblr

there should be a study of ppl who imagine "surprise" as a motivator when someone notes something. i feel a common finding might be dumbness.

tbh I'm tired & too lazy to try to figure out if you're insulting me

next time just say 'deej is dumb' & u dont have to waste all that time typing up shitty convoluted zings xp

zings which could apply to 3-4 other ppl on the thread

"deej is dumb" doesn't point out to you that nothing indicated surprise, despite yr 4 or 5 posts in reply on the subject. maybe i'm wrong and i sounded really surprised, but i don't think so.

also it's a thing ppl do, not just u

regardless the misogyny here doesn't rub me the wrong way the way it does on zone'n which is more creepy, here it's OTT / funny like teh big tymers or something

like the affect they were talking about, its like hes completely numb to his stockpiling of women as commodities but then HOOOOOOOEEES cuts thru like a clarion call of existential angst

xp well surely there was a way to make your point that didnt require 4 rereads of your post & ctrl-f-ing the word 'surprise'

anyway you're wrong abt the song being bad so u can leave thank you good day

like i said i admit the appeal of the cri de coeur but to me the rest seems really banal and dour and relentlessly unpleasant, i mean there's a verse at the end and i'm like oh he's still a dead-eyed woman hater, can't wait to roll up and be a chill asshole along to this no wait i can

even all the "haha he says hoooooooes how bizarrrre" is kind of idk

i'm not even head over heels for this song but your posts are terrible right now

heaven needed a low-rent r|t|c ;_;

ay i resent that

i do actually kinda sympathise with what zvook's saying about this song but not for the first time he makes it so unpalatable in his weird autistic trench war way that i'd much rather just dig my heels in and go out and slap a bitch for the sake of it tbh ;D

seriously though i've listened to this new mixtape a few times and (regardless of ty's pervasive great ear for hooks) flipflopped somewhat between getting really into it and finding it a bit much all at once whilst still being unsure if i'd want the rough edges sanded off. his steez on the previous tape really didnt grab - and discovering the capability for affectation makes the following more unpleasant - so i have to conclude there is a frisson at play albeit an ugly one; five years ago he mightve been t-pain but now he's the weeknd and it works idk

otoh tbrr the "good heart!" "bastard!" margins are so laughably fine though that it's probably better off not listening to music altogether than wasting the time handwringing

- how did zvookster ever listen to any hip-hop before this?
- it's the second "HOOOOOOEEEEES" that pushes it over the top - like you have the first sudden passionate one cutting through the ~party smoke~ and then the second descending one is like "no i REALLY mean it"
- i initially envisaged a situation where ty$ has stockpiled all these hoooooooeees in his cabana and is feeling pretty smug about life and then he suddenly looks around and they are all talking to each other and none of them are looking at him - it has this sudden solitude about it
- kellz comparison otm
- great song

on the tape the kells vocal similarity is often uncanny

i feel like i need to obsess about this as a standalone song for a bit more before i go in on the tape

at the risk of risible fixating i also love the way he finishes up with the la di da di da da, trailing off back into the cabana smoke whistling a thoughtful tune because that is indeed the only real response to the existential meaninglessness of hooooooooooes

mad ill-advised i know but the thought occurs this would be a good one to throw in to the discussion on the frank ocean thread before it got shit again about observation and engagement etc (ctrl-f longneck)

Ha, interesting. I'd say that there are certainly similarities but also great differences, of course. Frank's detachment is always very cerebral, it's a strategy that will allow him to be personal while also playing the role of the casual observer. But Ty$ is all the more engaging for not signaling intelligence or knowingness. When he howls his mournful HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOES it's as if he's an animal contemplating mortality for the first time ever. If that sounds condescending, I apologize, cause it's certainly not meant to be. Just trying to get to the bottom of the drama, which somehow hinges on the relatively trivial nature of the subject matter and the detachment of the performance. It really is one of the most genuinely dramatic and weird songs I've heard in a long time.

When he howls his mournful HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOES it's as if he's an animal contemplating mortality for the first time ever.

Dude.....um

the rest of the tape makes all this icy existential shit you guys are reading into HOOOOES pretty stupid imo

Longneck, that doesn't sound condescending it sounds straight up racist

I just thought it sounded mournful I didn't really think it was real

the rest of the tape makes all this icy existential shit you guys are reading into HOOOOES pretty stupid imo

― goole, Thursday, October 4, 2012 11:24 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think this is a fine delineation but i dont think anyone is arguing that ty$ is non-misogynist or that hes actually a good person or that this stuff isn't patently offensive at a surface level, more that the song seems to function in a way that gives off this effect of existential angst -- in other words, the drama of it is a direct result of his musical choices...we're not reading something into it that isnt there

the rest of the tape makes all this icy existential shit you guys are reading into HOOOOES pretty stupid imo

this one song in isolation makes all the icy existential shit you guys* are reading into HOOOOOOES pretty stupid imo

*not you, goole

*sigh* It was totally not meant to be racist. That's what the disclaimer was for. It was meant to say something about how the melancholy intensity of the hoooooooooes is so overwhelming because it is placed in a song about how many women you can fit in a cabana. It's just too strong for the song to contain it in any reasonable way. That's where the "animal contemplating mortality" simile came from, and not, for crying out loud, because black rappers remind me of animals. It is obviously very artfully done, but the song itself comes across as more forceful the less cerebral Ty$' persona is presented as being. That's kinda the point of the video, no? It's also very RiFF RaFF-y, since we're obviously watching a performance but don't really get enough information to actually know just where the performance ends, you know? That's what's exhilirating about it. Not that RiFF RaFF has ever made anything as engaging as this, but that's the general principle of it.

it's such a contrast to the thoughtful musings of "I hate bitches wearing fake nails" and "Asian hoes like to drink sake"

no one is arguing this song isnt layers of ignorance guys.

or that b/c we think hes going thru an existential crisis that makes it 'ok' or w/e

we're just trying to explain why this song is 100x more engaging than 100 other misogynist songs

never really bought the 'this misogyny works because they make it seem fun' / 'this misogyny doesnt work because they make it seem creepy' thing. the fact that the weeknd or whoever makes misogyny seem as creepy as it is is one of his strengths imo, but thats a different debate

itt a bunch of rap nerds are no longer 16

all rap nerds are 16 at heart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IH8tNQAzSs

secret forefather

lol

infatuaaaaaaated
infatuAAAAAAAAATEEEEEEEEDD

OOO-OOOO-OOOO-OOOOOO

I really like that he sounds so unguarded when he's singing/rapping. Apart from a few blunders (that skit, the dubstep one, etc.), there is no knowing smirk or malice. It's almost as if he's singing/rapping to himself.

mixtape is one of the most relentlessly misogynistic things i've heard in a while

:(

there's really just no charm at all to the guy. i'm half listening to this on repeat because the guy is an amazing songwriter but also because i'm fascinated by how much it horrifies me.

i will say that "mohawk pussy / i mosh pit in it like a rockstar" is a fucking inspired line tho

i think "forbidden fruit" is my favorite joint on here. i love when he goes "that pusssssy sooooo gooooooood" and then the guitar solo follows the same melody

jordan otm

i've been meaning to post about this because i have been listening to it a lot, but relentless is the right word

just reads to me as weak, like he can't get over his own unease at singing one glistening white sands love jam after another so he makes them all as creeped out as possible

idk, it seems to OTT to bother me for some raeson

misogyny-as-camp or something

idk i just kinda think this early in his career he's still a bit of a poser? when the mask slips on 'infatuated' it feels genuine, "hanging on every word i say / lies, and i need to back away"

he is too talented to write off, will be interesting to see what effect the deal might have

- i initially envisaged a situation where ty$ has stockpiled all these hoooooooeees in his cabana and is feeling pretty smug about life and then he suddenly looks around and they are all talking to each other and none of them are looking at him - it has this sudden solitude about it

song is excellent, lyrics are tasteless, should be a hit. feels like if Drake stopped trying to be clever/self-aware and became the amoral party animal he's always whining about turning into

also whoever talked about "blankness" upthread was OTM tenfold

misogyny-as-camp or something

― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Saturday, October 13, 2012 4:15 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

i think his delivery kinda breaks this idea down

it was worth a shot

misogyny-as-camp or something

― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Saturday, October 13, 2012 4:15 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

i think his delivery kinda breaks this idea down

― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:12 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

admittedly my statement is kind of vague but how do u mean?

I don't really read any camp in his songs... his delivery seems very serious to me. And then you have things like that extended phone conversation at the end of one song... Idk

"misogyny as camp" seems like an escape lever you could pull in any discussion, frankly

i dont mean irony i mean playing it up to an extreme

its not about whether or not its OK for him to do it, nor is it supposed to be a get out of jail free card or something, hes completely vulnerable to criticisms of sexism obvi

im more trying to explain why i still listen to it w/ out being grossed out or w/e, shit is so surface level reprehensible that it registers as faintly ridiculous

I Think I Know Where D-40 Got The Farting Thing From

1. Toot It & Boot It 145 up, 15 down

When a boy or a girl has a one night stand. To hit it and quit it. Freaky people who usually sex alot of different people.

2. Toot It & Boot It 14 up, 31 down

Farting and ducking out

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, August 8, 2010 5:34 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark

WEINGARTEN

http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=2751

so much for the strength of street knowledge am i right

"farting and ducking out" has 31 down votes to 14 upvotes

i dont mean irony i mean playing it up to an extreme

its not about whether or not its OK for him to do it, nor is it supposed to be a get out of jail free card or something, hes completely vulnerable to criticisms of sexism obvi

im more trying to explain why i still listen to it w/ out being grossed out or w/e, shit is so surface level reprehensible that it registers as faintly ridiculous

― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Saturday, October 13, 2012 4:29 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i mean i'm still playing it too but i think calling it camp is pretty generous -- he comes off to me as someone who couldn't get a girl till sophomore year of college and relentlessly shits on women as an adult as a result

so i buy the "playing it up to an extreme" thing, but i'm not sure that makes it more acceptable

well obviously it does b/c you're listening to it

at very minimum, u tolerate it

perhaps even indulge in the indulgence of power dynamics u know are wrong & irresponsible

i actually don't think there's much going on w/ this in terms of "power dynamics" -- i don't buy his pimp shtick

the songcraft on this is incredibly strong and it wins out over the pretty gross content for me -- it's a testament to his talents in that regard than anything regarding his persona not being as bad as it seems

pimp schtick = power dynamics

i dont think u can separate 'ugly content' from 'great songcraft' like that. hes pretty blatant and up-front with his misogyny so its not the kind of thing u really overlook imo

you are right tho that i use the ty dollar $ign mixtape as a way to indulge my secret misogynistic fantasies, you got me on that one

so in ignition (remix) is r kelly asking his girl to fart (two times)

you are right tho that i use the ty dollar $ign mixtape as a way to indulge my secret misogynistic fantasies, you got me on that one

― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:06 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this abstract 'i just appreciate its great songcraft' ish is a cop out tho

you said his misogyny is camp!

anyway it's not a cop out -- in general i fall far on the side of the argument that music doesn't have to agree with my morals. this pushes right up against that and if he wasn't a great writer i wouldn't really feel the need to keep engaging with it. i'm trying to figure out how to feel about it.

guys this is a lot simpler if you realize ~~you are the hoes~~

--so in ignition (remix) is r kelly asking his girl to fart (two times)--

Lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDWzSiEwWxs

skip to 1:07

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgCv-qrlRrI

that's some serious crate-diggin here.

that's pretty amazing

http://www.complex.com/music/2012/10/who-is-ty-dolla-sign

find out how many hoes fit in his cabana (yes he has a cabana)

Nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXd_RtLihT0

This is my jam these days btw.

show me why you deserve it
TWERK
TWERK

whoa i totally forgot that this guy had a hand in quik/free's "nothing" aka one of my fav songs of the last two years -- anyone know what exactly he did on the song (write the hook?)

i started singing this song to myself the other day on returning from the fridge with a kabanos

that's all i got, sorry

assuming u mean "nobody" wikipedia says: "Tydolla$ign did not actually sing on the hook but appeared to be singing it in the music video" and he's not credited as a writer lol

weird... he was credited with a feature on the ilm 2011 tracks results. this is all a mystery to me.

he's in the video (not wearing a perm tho)

according to rapgenius the hook is sung by [Hook: DJ Quik impersonating Suga Free]

this is dope (xpost w/ MANN thread)

http://hiphop-n-more.com/2013/04/mann-cookies-og-feat-ty-dolla-ign/

Jeezy remix version video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a09INp3zlY

this guy has some hits on the way imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-hsiYfiEqg

also this is dope

Paranoid off the DJ Mustard tape is great.

if it just means hit it & quit it thats way more boring i assumed 'toot it' was based around farting after sex or something

if not thats kind of disappointing

― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 19:52 (8 months ago) Permalink

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q686/tinyservants/bedsprings_zps5b8e9d8a.gif

haha

we already covered that

i like Irie alright although it's not as good as paranoid or RNGM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-iAYTuwOso

the need to make every artist collaborate with Wiz is frustrating imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQOBW1qiGf8

this jams

they really packed the Atlantic records b-team on this mixtape huh

T.Rone > Ty $

idk about that but he is dope

or at least 'hello love' is. hows his other stuff

oh i have no idea. i've just heard one song by each of these dudes and like one way more.

you've heard 'toot it and boot it' so you've actually heard more than one song by ty

but i'm glad you've come to a conclusive decision about both their careers on the basis of one song each. jeez why even participate in this thread if all you've heard is one song? And there are streaming youtubes right here where you could hear others

lol can't a man troll

i mean i straight up hate this dude off that one song and all the lyrics i keep seeing quoted make me feel like i should go with my gut

oh man wait til you inadvertently hear "zonin"

Wtf "quoted lyrics"?

This is how we're evaluating music now. "It probably sucks, I heard it was Problematic."

jeez ok i'll listen to it

ship check "Infatuated"

That said, I find zonin hard to listen to, although I don't think it's the strongest musically either

Infatuated is like my least fav on the record though

The first beach house >>> the second

The first beach house >>> the second

^^ this

nothing about the front page NY times coverage?
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/11/arts/music/hes-acting-out-its-on-purpose.html
i feel like caramanica's definition of "ratchet" is not so great here

'paranoid' = pop rap classic

otm

not necessarily trying to bang an album featuring casey veggies, b.o.b, trey songz, french montana, wiz khalifa, travis scott & jay rock...

whoa i totally forgot that this guy had a hand in quik/free's "nothing" aka one of my fav songs of the last two years -- anyone know what exactly he did on the song (write the hook?)

― J0rdan S., Friday, November 30, 2012 5:46 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark

the answer to this question is that quik wanted to fuck with people and not have them think he sings the hook on "nobody" so he asked ty to lip sync in the video

real n****s dont swim/got your main bitch on film/mouth full of them balls/flip her, dominique dawes

In the least shocking news ever: Ty$' taste in music is fratty.

https://twitter.com/tydollasign/status/437711150373814272
https://twitter.com/tydollasign/status/437712086844448768
https://twitter.com/tydollasign/status/437712899071438849

looooooooooooool

I have Nirvana on right now tho :(

At this point, Nirvana is probably the least fratty of the four bands he mentioned, simply because Radiohead is probably used by frat boys as evidence they're "deep".

Of course, this is all guesswork as I do not actually know anyone who is a member of a frat (or to my knowledge, ever was).

when i interviewed him he asked me if i listened to phantogram. i said no and he looked at me like i was completely nuts. then he played me whatever their big single is right now and said "this is the hardest shit out"

but also "my cabana" samples skrillex vs the doors as remixed by zedd, so it's not like any of this is really a shock

Do you think he's ever heard Frontier Psychiatrist

Haha I like this guy even more now

amazing revive (Ty otm about the Phantogram single tho)

Damn, this Phantogram shit jams for real though! I'd be way less mad about this being on urban radio than fucking Lorde. Bringing back that real mid-2000s backpacker shit haha.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsQjC5zVnt8&feature=kp

lol own3d

haha yeah. first time i heard it i thought it had the same Dionne Warwick sample as Usher's "Throwback." xp

I LITERALLY JUST LISTENED TO THOSE TWO SONGS BACK TO BACK

The internet won't tell me what the sample on the Phantogram is tho :(

this song is pretty dope

loool

when i interviewed him he asked me if i listened to phantogram. i said no and he looked at me like i was completely nuts. then he played me whatever their big single is right now and said "this is the hardest shit out"

― le goon (J0rdan S.), Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

v well written post

Phantogram are great, but Vicious Lies and Dangerous Rumors is a cautionary tale of what can happen when rappers get too taken with them

haha Big Boi just dropped another song with Phantogram

haaaa, I was trying to figure out where I knew that name from

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5abs10dhM0

how is migos x ty a surprisingly effective collab

not entirely sure how i feel about that song. it's growing on me but i wanna hear a HQ version.

what's your take on sign language?

actually fuck it this is dope

I like sign language but it feels sapped of singles, like some punches have been pulled for the album

feeling this more than anything on sign language

yeah agreed. they prob some shuffled songs from the album off onto that -- the one w/ big sean he played for me specifically earlier this year and said it was something he was saving for the album

sign language felt hella vibey to me but i was down

weirdly creeped out by one of the migos adlibbing 'long d' over ty$ singing

damn this is so good

babyface and ty$ travel to the countryside for an acoustic jam session in ripped t-shirts and leather...so solid

can't wait to hear this album

its gonna be amazing

im afraid it wont sell so great but it's really hard to tell, he's obv put in a lot of groundwork over three years, done tons of shows, kept songs in regular rotation

i'm not sure how high the recognition factor is with him, not sure anyone hears 'blase' and goes, oh yeah dope ty dolla song

at any rate musically he's a genius and ive consistently given a pass to all the compromises because its virtually impossible for a new artist to get an album out in the weakened R&B/hip-hop radio state we're in today but we'll see

Do women want to sleep with him though? I love Ty but I have this feeling that he mainly appeals to guys.

yeah they could've pushed out an album on the heels of "Paranoid," but just like Jhene and Sevyn and Rico Love, the label squandered his biggest hit on an EP and let all the momentum dissipate before putting out an album. i don't think it'll sell well at all, although it'll probably be enough of a calling card to keep him doing hooks and writing for people. the single w/ Fetty seems like it could do well post-"The Hills."

Do women want to sleep with him though? I love Ty but I have this feeling that he mainly appeals to guys.

― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, November 10, 2015 11:59 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is the opposite of true, except MAYBE critically but even then idk, his biggest fans ive seen among critics outside of ilxors are women

yeah they could've pushed out an album on the heels of "Paranoid," but just like Jhene and Sevyn and Rico Love, the label squandered his biggest hit on an EP and let all the momentum dissipate before putting out an album. i don't think it'll sell well at all, although it'll probably be enough of a calling card to keep him doing hooks and writing for people. the single w/ Fetty seems like it could do well post-"The Hills."

― Viva la Wu Tang or Meth and All His Friends (some dude), Tuesday, November 10, 2015 12:01 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they also wasted time on that charli xcx song smfh

oh man "drop that kitty" was a spectacular failure. it was like 'let's get 3 rising artists people are excited about and make something that nobody from any of their respective fanbases enjoys,' almost an accomplishment.

halfway through this and i have no idea what kind of artist ty wants to be or what kind of artist he ever was

i agree that it seems like he is kind of being pulled in a few diff directions & it's not the most cohesive album but it's still pretty dope overall and there is still a certain sonic sensibility that flows through it

'toot it and boot it was about farting' is the new 'trillville sampled a rocking chair' for real

― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Wednesday, October 3, 2012 4:38 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

'beach house 3' has lots of replay for me. still think its his best project outside original beach house mixtape (and in many ways is a realization of it)

maybe a bit 'safe' in some ways, but i dont mind