Nominations for a 70s 'Anti-Rolling Stone Canon ' style Albums Poll

Balls suggested a 70s equivalent of the surprisingly successful The ILM 1980s Anti-Rolling Stone Canon (FREE PUSSY RIOT) Rock Poll Results - ALBUMS! Top 20! ends today poll and there was a lot of support for it on the thread and on twitter so lets try it.

We need to work out what is allowed in the poll. Anything borderline has to have a good reason for being included 'i want to vote for it' just isn't enough.
Im inclined to not allow Springsteen/Talking Heads/Blondie type stuff but lets see what you all say.
If we cant agree I obviously have final say. But we do want to do a different type of poll and the 80s one worked amazingly well.

a 70s poll leaving out parliament,Sly stone, stevie wonder, marvin ,james brown, chic etc pains me but we can still have Funkadelic, Mandrill and other like-minded bands.

*IF* we do a tracks poll, then I will need at least one volunteer to help take charge of the thread keeping it bumped, keeping the nominations in order and of course right of veto/decision making. (trolls need not apply)

So what do you all think?

oh and go vote in this poll ! I'VE GOT THE POWER! This is the 1990s ELECTRONIC TRACKS AND ALBUMS voting thread! - Deadline on Monday, October 8th, at 12PM (GMT)

Oh and I will do the 90s equivalent either after this or after EOY polls, I promise.

Could you bold all nominations please. like the following

Funkadelic - Standing On The Verge Of Getting It On
Mandrill - Mandrill Is

It's unlimited but the more you nominate in one post the easier it is for us. But it doesn't really matter too much but it would help for your initial nominations. Obviously things do come to you later on.

I know there's going to be obvious classics like led zep, sabbath,television, sex pistols etc but lets try nominate weirder/noisy stuff like we did in the 80s poll

where's the multitude of blues rock and country rock stuff going to fall here? like, would some Neil Young albums be heavy enough for the poll and some wouldn't? I feel like as long as there's more electric guitars than acoustics something should have a shot. are the Rolling Stones themselves still on the outs?

That is what we need to discuss but yeah the neil young rock albums are in but no eagles! ZZTop,Rush etc are in. As much as i love gram parsons i think he is out.

Punk is in but not sure about new wave but we need to judge that album by album but probably not much new wave will get in (sorry)

yeah Eagles definitely don't rock enough. i think Little Feat do, though.

imo the first two Elvis Costello albums rock as hard as anything but i can see the case for him being too new wave.

as for krautrock - guitar albums by Can, amon duul ii are in but no cluster or tangerine dream

The Stooges - Fun House

fuck the rest imo

I guess 1st 2 Kraftwerk are allowed but not the well known stuff.

xp

I know what you mean by elvis c but i think he has to e left out along with talking heads/blondie. its not a matter of taste, i love the last 2 and like early elvis c,but they just dont fit. neither do the police

yeah, i understand that. can i put a little Frampton Comes Alive up in this bitch?

Can - Tago Mago
Can - Ege Bamyasi

I think frampton qualifies as hard rock so yeah why not. We have to remember how "heavy" a band was at the time and not judge it by how they sound now.
The Heart albums are more folky arent they? im not sure about them before someone asks.

Crossing the Red Sea with the Adverts - The Adverts

Still not sure of the boundaries (which Can albums rock more than Talking Heads?) but I guess these fit?

Faust - Tapes
The Modern Lovers - The Modern Lovers
Flower Travellin' Band - Satori
Amon Duul II - Yeti

I will just take it as a given that all Can albums will be nommed.

The Adverts - Crossing the Red Sea with the Adverts

That will be high in my ballot

Neu! - Neu! 75
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin III
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV
Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy
MC5 - Back in the USA
Alice Cooper - Killer
Alice Cooper - Love It to Death
Thin Lizzy - Jailbreak
Thin Lizzy - Bad Reputation
Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Live Rust
David Bowie - Aladdin Sane
Aphrodite's Child - 666
Cheap Trick - Cheap Trick
Cheap Trick - In Color

Just nominate them , there's no limits to amount of nominations.

How about prog stuff? I'm assuming King Crimson are ok but what about, say, Yes or Floyd?

Faust - So Far
Faust - Faust IV

first batch -

Neu! - Neu! 75
Hawkwind - Space Ritual
Gong - Camembert Electrique
Funkadelic - Maggot Brain
PIL - Metal Box
Mutantes – Jardim Elétrico
James Chance & The Contortions ‎– Buy
The Pop Group - Y
The Slits - Cut

as much as i dislike yes and elp they are eligible. I think a compromise like u2/rem in 80s poll would be Pink Floyd - Animals would be ok but not the others? its a difficult one.

Animals does rock so its def in

MC5 - High Time

Ok cool.

Pink Floyd - Animals
The Sensational Alex Harvey Band - Next...
Sweet - Desolation Boulevard
Pink Fairies - Kings of Oblivion
The Who - Who's Next
The Who - Quadrophenia

like neil youngs rock albums are in but harvest isnt. Im stuck with tonights the night as it might not rock like the others yet the spirit of it just fits perfectly (same with beefheart)

good call on Animals and The Pink Fairies

pink fairies rule and i urge everyone to check them out

Might as well...

Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Black Sabbath - Master of Reality
Black Sabbath - Vol. 4
Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Black Sabbath - Sabotage
Black Sabbath - Never Say Die!

Technical Ecstasy can do one.

Can - Future Days
Swell Maps - A Trip To Marineville
Magazine - Real Life

Doll By Doll - Gypsy Blood

Dr. Feelgood - Stupidity
Motorhead - Motorhead
Motorhead - Overkill
Motorhead - Bomber
AC / DC - Highway To Hell
K. Frimpong & His Cubano Fiestas -ST 2
La Revolución de Emiliano Zapata - ST
Los Dug Dugs - Dug Dugs

CCR is fair game, right?

Throbbing Gristle - Heathen Earth
Peter Hammill - Nadir's Big Chance
Suicide - Suicide

Chrome - Half Machine Lip Moves
Can - Soon Over Babaluma
Dead Boys - Young Loud and Snotty

some dude i got no objections but others may?

oops. heathen earth is 1980 so
Throbbing gristle - 20 Jazz funk Greats

Pere Ubu - The Modern Dance
Chrome - Alien Soundtracks
Blue Öyster Cult - s/t
Blue Öyster Cult - Tyranny and Mutation
Blue Öyster Cult - Secret Treaties
MX-80 Sound - Hard Attack
The Saints - (I'm) Stranded
The Saints - Eternally Yours
The Saints - Prehistoric Sounds
Television - Marquee Moon

erm

Pere Ubu - The Modern Dance
Chrome - Alien Soundtracks
Chrome - Half Machine Lip Moves
Blue Öyster Cult - s/t
Blue Öyster Cult - Tyranny and Mutation
Blue Öyster Cult - Secret Treaties
MX-80 Sound - Hard Attack
The Saints - (I'm) Stranded
The Saints - Eternally Yours
The Saints - Prehistoric Sounds
Television - Marquee Moon

Captain Beefheart & the Magic Band - Clear Spot
Comus - First Utterance
Ultravox! - s/t
Ultravox! - Ha! Ha! Ha!
Magazine - Secondhand Daylight
Wire - Pink Flag
Wire - Chairs Missing
Wire - 154
Gang of Four - Entertainment!

Here's a few more obvious ones. Do Roxy Music get in?

Richard Hell and the Voidoids - Blank Generation
Iggy Pop - The Idiot
Iggy Pop - Lust for Life
Roxy Music - Roxy Music
Roxy Music - For your Pleasure
Roxy Music - Stranded
Roxy Music - Country Life
Roxy Music - Siren
Roxy Music - Manifesto
Wire - Pink Flag
Wire - Chairs Missing
Wire - 154
Big Star - Sister Lovers
Gang of Four - Entertainment!
The Velvet Underground - Loaded
Deep Purple - In Rock

oops, sorry, some duplication there, should have checked properly.

Heartbreakers - L.A.M.F.

The Soft Boys - A Can Of Bees
Flamin' Groovies - Teenage Head

Wire - 154

three times the charm for that Wire record!

ok so far
AC / DC - Highway To Hell
Alice Cooper - Killer
Alice Cooper - Love It to Death
Amon Duul II - Yeti
Aphrodite's Child - 666
Big Star - Sister Lovers
Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
Black Sabbath - Master of Reality
Black Sabbath - Never Say Die!
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Black Sabbath - Sabotage
Black Sabbath - Vol. 4
Blue Öyster Cult - s/t
Blue Öyster Cult - Secret Treaties
Blue Öyster Cult - Tyranny and Mutation
Can - Ege Bamyasi
Can - Future Days
Can - Soon Over Babaluma
Can - Tago Mago
Captain Beefheart & the Magic Band - Clear Spot
Cheap Trick - Cheap Trick
Cheap Trick - In Color
Chrome - Alien Soundtracks
Chrome - Half Machine Lip Moves
Chrome - Half Machine Lip Moves
Comus - First Utterance
David Bowie - Aladdin Sane
Dead Boys - Young Loud and Snotty
Deep Purple - In Rock
Doll By Doll - Gypsy Blood
Dr. Feelgood - Stupidity
Faust - Faust IV
Faust - So Far
Faust - Tapes
Flamin' Groovies - Teenage Head
Flower Travellin' Band - Satori
Funkadelic - Maggot Brain
Funkadelic - Standing On The Verge Of Getting It On
Gang of Four - Entertainment!
Gang of Four - Entertainment!
Gong - Camembert Electrique
Hawkwind - Space Ritual
Heartbreakers - L.A.M.F.
Iggy Pop - Lust for Life
Iggy Pop - The Idiot
James Chance & The Contortions ‎– Buy
K. Frimpong & His Cubano Fiestas -ST 2
La Revolución de Emiliano Zapata - ST
Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin III
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV
Los Dug Dugs - Dug Dugs
Magazine - Real Life
Magazine - Secondhand Daylight
Mandrill - Mandrill Is
MC5 - Back in the USA
MC5 - High Time
Motorhead - Bomber
Motorhead - Motorhead
Motorhead - Overkill
Mutantes – Jardim Elétrico
MX-80 Sound - Hard Attack
Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Live Rust
Neu! - Neu! 75
Pere Ubu - The Modern Dance
Peter Hammill - Nadir's Big Chance
PIL - Metal Box
Pink Fairies - Kings of Oblivion
Pink Floyd - Animals
Richard Hell and the Voidoids - Blank Generation
Roxy Music - Country Life
Roxy Music - For your Pleasure
Roxy Music - Manifesto
Roxy Music - Roxy Music
Roxy Music - Siren
Roxy Music - Stranded
Suicide - Suicide
Sweet - Desolation Boulevard
Swell Maps - A Trip To Marineville
Television - Marquee Moon
The Adverts - Crossing the Red Sea with the Adverts
The Modern Lovers - The Modern Lovers
The Pop Group - Y
The Saints - (I'm) Stranded
The Saints - Eternally Yours
The Saints - Prehistoric Sounds
The Sensational Alex Harvey Band - Next...
The Slits - Cut
The Soft Boys - A Can Of Bees
The Stooges - Fun House
The Velvet Underground - Loaded
The Who - Quadrophenia
The Who - Who's Next
Thin Lizzy - Bad Reputation
Thin Lizzy - Jailbreak
Throbbing gristle - 20 Jazz funk Greats
Ultravox! - Ha! Ha! Ha!
Ultravox! - s/t
Wire - 154
Wire - Chairs Missing
Wire - Pink Flag

choose 50 lol

It will be a ballot of 100 methinks

Misfits - Static Age

Siouxsie & the Banshees - The Scream
Alternative TV - The Image Has Cracked
Ramones - s/t
Ramones - Leave Home
Ramones - Rocket To Russia

Iggy & The Stooges - Raw Power

May as well get some of these out of the way

David Bowie - Station to Station
David Bowie - Low
David Bowie - "Heroes"
David Bowie - Lodger

Request thread title change to Nominations for a 70s 'Anti-Rolling Stone Canon ' style Albums Poll (FREE PATTY HEARST)

shouldn't these polls have to wait in the queue like the rest of them?

trying again...

David Bowie - Station to Station
David Bowie - Low
David Bowie - "Heroes"
David Bowie - Lodger

low? really?

shouldn't these polls have to wait in the queue like the rest of them?

^ poll!

these arent artist polls k3vin

I do wish you'd go back and make sure that your previous poll's messes are cleaned up before starting new ones though.

messes?

Hamilton Bohannon - On My Way
La Dusseldorf- La Dusseldorf
La Dusseldorf - Viva

Montrose - Montrose
Thin Lizzy - Black Rose: A Rock Legend
Thin Lizzy - Johnny the Fox
Mountain - Climbing!

Rolling Stones - Get Yer Ya-Yas Out! The Rolling Stones in Concert
Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers
Rolling Stones - Exile on Main St.
Rolling Stones - Goats Head Soup
Rolling Stones - Black and Blue
Rolling Stones - Some Girls

xps to AG: Try using the search function to search for any band name or album title in the wake of these types of polls. I have to scroll through pages and pages of each time you decide to update the nominations list. It would be good housekeeping for pollstarters to go back and delete everything except maybe only the last noms list. It's really annoying when searching for posts of substance about musical acts.

I've brought this up on mod request board once and I think one of the mods even went back and deleted a bunch of the horrible noms list from a thread or two (God bless you, sir or ma'am), but I don't know if the people running these polls realize it.

well im not a mod so cant do that

ok it happened someone nominated rolling stones.
i assume most say no rolling stones in the poll?

maybe we go for the one album only compromise?

Also anyone volunteering to help with a tracks poll or does noone want a tracks poll?

the endless reposts of nominee lists are ridiculous. AG posted the results of the OTHER 80s poll three times during the rollout for his own poll.

well im not a mod so cant do that

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, October 5, 2012 1:24 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, but you could take some responsibility for your shit and submit a humble mod request for someone to go back and delete posts that may repeat themselves too many times.

seems daft to exclude exile on main st tbh

yeah if that's not a rock album I don;t know what is.

Do the noms lists really mess up searching? I always search on thread titles or use Google...

PiL - Public Image
Mahavishnu Orchestra - the inner mounting flame
Mahavishnu Orchestra - birds of fire
Kennelmus - folkstone prism
The Hampton Grease Band - music to eat
Glenn Phillips - lost at sea
the red crayola - soldier talk
pere ubu - dub housing
pere ubu - new picnic time
captain beefheart and hhis magic band - lick my decals off baby
magma - 2
magma - köhntarkösz
magma - udu wudu
magma - attahk
osanna - palepoli
osanna - milano calibro 9
il balletto di bronzo - ys
museo rosenbach - zarathustra

i know what how's life is saying. if you sort search results by relevance, then the all the gigantic lists tend to end up right at the end iirc

Yeah, but you could take some responsibility for your shit and submit a humble mod request for someone to go back and delete posts that may repeat themselves too many times.

― how's life,

A mod already told me last year not top other them with poll stuff.
ps. your tone sucks.

This is more an issue with every poll thread ever than just some crazy thing that AG does. But anyway, if we maintain a Google Spreadsheet there shouldn't be any need to post nomination lists in the thread.

yes - fragile
yes - close to the edge
yes - relayer

seandalai could you set one up then please and let me edit it?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AumbddEHET5xdEZaQ0paMUZpNEdGeUdRSGRTY3BfV2c

AG, you can edit it; everyone can view

saying yes to Rolling Stones in the poll

thanks!

I have included exile and animals for now.

oh c'mon Exile is much closer to the rest of the band's output for the decade that Animals is to PF's -- you get that in you need Sticky Fingers and everything else

so basically are we just using chuck eddy's definition of metal here?

if the issue is the Stones/ Floyd will dominate, I think the presence of Bowie/ Roxy/ Sabbath/ Zeppelin etc. etc. will ensure that no band could possibly dominate. let 'em in I say!

And if "Loaded" is allowed the threshold of rockingness must be pretty low.

Van der Graaf Generator – Pawn Hearts
Van der Graaf Generator – Godbluff
Van der Graaf Generator – Still Life
Peter Hammill – Over

from the intro to stairway to hell:

"Basically, I include all (decent) loud-guitar squashing-ears-like-bugs brain-damamge that could conceivably (theoretically) appeal to a heavy metal audience, not just observers-of-arbitrary-dress-code already accepted by said crowd. Everybody else's definition changes annually, I decided, so the only sensible way to handle the predicament was to make eligible for Stairway To Hell all extant wax that would've been considered metal at any time in HM's elongated life span, whether said wax was considered metal at the time of releae or not. The only exception was the Rolling stones, who cannot be heavy metal because, well, they're the Rolling Stones. And so are the Clash."

Is stuff like Steely Dan + Randy Newman allowed in this poll?

Cheap Trick - Heaven Tonight
The Clash - Give 'Em Enough Rope
Creedence Clearwater Revival - Cosmo's Factory
Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick
Led Zeppelin - Presence
Little Feat - Feats Don't Fail Me Now
Patti Smith - Horses
Peter Frampton - Frampton Comes Alive!
Queen - Queen
Thin Lizzy - Vagabonds Of The Western World
War - All Day Music

Gotta admit that so far this poll makes less intuitive sense to me than the 80s poll. I love Television but they were mostly basically jangle-rock with jams, not very heavy or noisy. In fact, I've always seen them as a precursor to REM and jangly indie. Have trouble seeing the rationale for including them but not Talking Heads or Blondie. Springsteen and the Stones probably rocked harder (although I like Television more than 70s Heads, Blondie, or Springsteen.) I'd say similar things about Loaded (except that I've never liked it much): it's a pretty mellow folk-rock-ish record imo. Why is there even a question about the Stones?

Yes is another one of my all-time favourite bands but much of what they did is pretty light/soft. Why is Pink Floyd borderline if Yes and ELP are in? Does Genesis count? Or would Nursery Cryme count but not The Lamb? Van der Graaf Generator? I get that King Crimson, Rush, and Queen should fit. Tull and Heep too.

these arent artist polls k3vin

I thought genre polls were covered in that thread too?

many xposts

xp
no.

(croup: I thought of the 80s poll in terms of Eddy's definition of metal/Carducci's definition of rock.)

Miles Davis - A Tribute To Jack Johnson
Miles Davis - Agharta
Miles Davis - Pangaea
Miles Davis - Dark Magus

yeah i'm trying to come up with nominees and it's hard to see a logical through-line here between what is and isn't allowed, beyond just sort of desiring an alternative canon

Miles Davis - Big Fun And nobody tell me it isn't a proper album cos as far as I am concerned it is !

maybe it should just be an anti-Rolling Stones canon where everybody remotely rock except the Rolling Stones are allowed in

Good call iglu on the Italian prog!

AC/DC - Powerage
Alphataurus - Alphataurus
Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Darwin!
Big Star - Radio City
Blue Öyster Cult - Agents of Fortune
King Crimson - Larks' Tongues in Aspic
King Crimson - Red
Motörhead - Overkill
Mott the Hoople - The Hoople
Queen - Queen II
Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks
Slade - Slayed?
T. Rex - Electric Warrior
T. Rex - Tanx
Toto - Toto
ZZ Top - Tres Hombres

Have to confess I wasn't sure about the Big Star, much as I love it. What do people think?

here are the top 100 for the 2 previous '70s albums polls ILM has done:

ILX 70s album poll - results

TURN THIS MUTHA OUT! It's the Alternate 1970s Albums Poll on ILX — Results Thread

So all of those bands should be excluded, right?

http://www.moonofalabama.org/images3/painted-into-corner.jpg

What about Fahey/Basho/Roy Harper?

Canned Heat/John Lee Hooker - Hooker 'n Heat
The Byrds - Untitled
The Flying Burrito Brothers - Burrito Deluxe
Shoes - Black Vinyl Shoes
Big Star - #1 Record
Big Star - Radio City
Hawkwind - Hall of the Mountain Grill
The Undertones - s/t
Bob Seger - Mongrel
Bob Seger - Seven
Bob Seger - Night Moves
Julie Driscoll/Brian Auger & The Trinity - Streetnoise
Death - ...For the Whole World to See
Goblin - Goblin-

I don't think it's a big deal about noms - even if blondie is nominated they're likely to suffer the fate the pretenders did in the 80s poll

television's an interesting one, but they are way more guitar-focused than most of the folks they influenced, they were pretty clearly a rock band

I love fahey but don't see how he fits here

what held together the last poll was extremity - the non-rock bands were pursuing some sort of extreme vision of wild abandon, it's why einsturzende neubauten or ministry made sense

anyway not everything is going to line up 100%, who cares

AG is just trying to avoid results littered with dylan and randy newman albums

yeah i hate when things are "littered" with masterpieces

one man's masterpiece is another man's fuck randy newman

how's Warren Zevon looking for this? is any lyric-centered solo artist just off limits?

One last question! Can you nom albums by bands like Crime and The Electric Eels who never released an album in their lifetime in the 70's but retrospective albums were put together 10-20 years later.

Likewise the Pagans

The logic behind the distinctions just doesn't seem as clear to me as it did with the 80s poll, where it made sense right away. It could be me or it could be the poll.

(70s Springsteen does seem more rock to me than 80s Springsteen.)

I'm guessing this is how Tim felt about the other poll.

seems fair. static age by the misfits was recorded in '78, finalized for release, and then didn't get put out until '97. it's obv a 70s record tho.

xp to damo sukuzi's parrot

Crime - San Francisco's Doomed
The Electric Eels - God Says Fuck You

(70s Springsteen does seem more rock to me than 80s Springsteen.)

yeah but would you call him hard rock? was he extreme? badass attitude? make you wanna say fuck you? do you really want born to run in this poll?

in that case, would this be allowed?

Screamers ‎– In A Better World

i'm not really gung ho about doing a tracks poll, but if we did that would probably be the best place to represent certain artist ("Adam Raised A Cain" for Springsteen etc.)

Debris - Static Disposal

screamers would be a lock I think

Pagans - Buried Alive

Destroy All Monsters - Bored

Yeah!!!

I mean that's the type of stuff we should be wracking our brains for instead of wondering which springsteen album to nom

Screamers ‎– In A Better World
Nurse With Wound - Chance Meeting On A Dissecting Table Of A Sewing Machine And An Umbrella
Budgie - In For The Kill

sad it took so long to name this one

Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny

Death ‎– ...For The Whole World To See

Wishbone Ash - Argus

Rocket From The Tombs - The Day The Earth Met The Rocket From The Tombs
Serge Gainsbourg - Histoire De Melody Nelson
Dennis Wilson - Pacific Ocean Blue
Slapp Happy - Acnalbasac Noom

yeah but would you call him hard rock? was he extreme? badass attitude? make you wanna say fuck you? do you really want born to run in this poll?

But I wouldn't say those things about Marquee Moon or Loaded either, Fragile even.

I'll need time to think about this.

Johnny Moped Band - Cycledelic

lou reed always makes me wanna say fuck you

Lots of middling art-rock nominated so far... I love a lot of it, but this thread definitely needs more balls-out rock. More when I'm not on my phone's browser...

I'll nominate some things though, so you know I'm not just trolling:

AC/DC - Jailbreak '74
Boston - s/t
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
Rush - A Farewell to Kings
Siouxsie and the Banshees - The Scream
Styx - Pieces of Eight
Styx - The Grand Illusion

I'm with sund4r a bit as well on having confusion over the parameters. I think almost no postpunk belongs here, but I can't really articulate why right now.

Magma - MDK

seconding the VDGG ones. also would like to add H to He there

I wasn't around for the debates over the parameters (imagine in Robert Ashley's voice) of the last poll, but I just sort of assumed that in saying "music that rocks" you were using in a Chuck Eddy sort of sense, with an emphasis on rhythm/rhythmic drive, which is the only way it really makes much sense to me. All the stuff about extremity seems too broad and diffuse. On the other hand, the last poll ended up being so much fun that maybe the lesson is it doesn't matter what the theoretical underpinnings of the poll are. Maybe if "hard" and "heavy" were in the poll title. I don't know. Of course this time around "music that rocks" isn't even in the thread title.

Yellow Magic Orchestra - Solid State Survivor
Throbbing Gristle - 20 Jazz Funk Greats
Steve Reich - Music For 18 Musicians
Nick Drake - Pink Moon
John Martyn - Solid Air

Stiff Little Fingers - Inflammable Material
The Damned - Damned Damned Damned

an emphasis on rhythm/rhythmic drive

so disco's in then

pink moon is one of my favorite albums ever but lol gtfo

x-post

If it rocks!

On the other hand, the last poll ended up being so much fun that maybe the lesson is it doesn't matter what the theoretical underpinnings of the poll are.

this is OTM

Not just any emphasis on rhythm, but an emphasis on rhythm along rock longs, but that could include some disco. Actually toying with suggesting something controversial along those lines.

if there's no post-punk can we have fela kuti to compensate?

A Chuck Eddy poll of music that rocks would maybe have a fair amount of disco and country (and country disco), but not so much Krautrock or proto-indie. (Not that I idolize Mr. Eddy, I just find his slant on this actually makes a certain amount of sense to me, or more sense than the alternatives.)

Anyway. Controversy!

Willie Colon - El Juicio

AC/DC - T.N.T.
AC/DC - Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap

Re: nominations politics, I've always said when I've run any polls that you can nominate wtf you want, just don't expect anyone else to vote for your craziness.

the '80s had a LOT more of things like hip hop and 'proper pop' and light rock etc. -- by comparison the '70s poll is veering dangerously close to 'any white person who didn't sing too many ballads'

a lot more things to frame the poll in opposition to, i mean

Lynyrd Skynyrd - (pronounced 'lĕh-'nérd 'skin-'nérd)
Lynyrd Skynyrd - Second Helping

Fela Kuti - Zombie
Fela Kuti - He Miss Road

lou reed always makes me wanna say fuck you

Because of his lyrics, delivery, and persona? If so, you're basically appreciating him as a singer-songwriter, not that differently from how people appreciate Bob Dylan and Warren Zevon. (And how different are "Sweet Jane" and "Rock and Roll" from those guys, really?)

Amon Duul II - Tanz der Lemminge
Yoko Ono - Fly
Brainticket - Cottonwoodhill
Hawkwind - Space Ritual
Twink - Think Pink
Peter Green - The End of the Game
Randy Holden - Population II
Blue Phantom - Distortions
Roxy Music - s/t
Brian Eno - Taking Tiger Mountain by Strategy
Robin Trower - Bridge of Sighs
Kansas - s/t
Heart - Dreamboat Annie (oh come on AG, you gotta!)
Babe Ruth - First Base
Las Grecas - Gipsy Rock
Neu! 2
Devo - Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo
The Fall - Dragnet
Siouxsie and the Banshees - Join Hands
The Raincoats - s/t
Chrome - Alien Soundtracks
Chrome - Half Machine Lip Moves

oh yeah, and:

Fela Kuti - No Agreement

The Meters - Struttin'
Deep Purple - Made in Japan
Focus - Hamburger Concerto
Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
Marianne Faithfull - Broken English
Uriah Heep ‎– ...Very 'Eavy Very 'Umble...

what about Grateful Dead's Europe 72?

There's so much late 70s stuff that is just lumped into the 80s in my mind that I forget it's from the 70s.

The Groundhogs - Split

lou reed always makes me wanna say fuck you

Because of his lyrics, delivery, and persona? If so, you're basically appreciating him as a singer-songwriter, not that differently from how people appreciate Bob Dylan and Warren Zevon. (And how different are "Sweet Jane" and "Rock and Roll" from those guys, really?)

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, October 5, 2012 11:53 AM (13 minutes ago)

Lou Reed - Metal Machine Music

Erkin Koray - Elektronik Turkuler

Dr John - In The Right Place
The Fall - Grotesque
Henry Cow - Unrest

Dust - Dust
Dust - Hard Attack

Grotesque is 1980

Morena y Clara - Morena y Clara

(This is flamenco rock; no es salsa.)

Thinking about this poll reminded me that none of you bastards voted for Metal Urbain in the 80s poll

The Fall - Live at the Witch Trials
The Fall - 77–Early Years–79

Wait, my mind is getting fuzzed up here - the Metal Urbain album is a comp of 70s stuff right?

Metal Urbain - Les hommes morts sont dangereux

I agree with the general feeling that the boundaries feel significantly harder to pin down for the 70s (and no Stones would be madness imo), but that said -
Funkadelic - Free Your Mind...And Your Ass Will Follow
The Damned - Damned Damned Damned

Bad Company - Bad Company

Shuggie Otis - Inspiration Information
Shuggie Otis - Freedom Flight

Oops saw NickB alredy nommed Damned Damned Damned. Was skimming but obv not well enough.

Even though it's one of my favorite things ever made, if Music for 18 Musicians is included in this poll then I quit life

That's disrespectful to Reich and to rock; ditto Fela's inclusion

I promise to stop being a grumpy old man and to actually vote in this one, but I do fear this poll's slow descent into cleverness...

there's lots of stoopidity included too. i will think of some more dumb favourites.

Umm Guilty. But I think you are taking it too seriously Clarke, and if it is an offensive faux pas it is more out of dumbness than trying to be clever!

i like these attempts to broaden the poll's boundaries to the point of meaningless. maybe the whole thing will be called off, or turned into another 'alternate' poll where nothing that made the first 2 polls is eligible.

meaninglessness

VEE BELIEVE IN NOSSING, LEBOWSKI

ok this is getting stupid. damo suzukis parrot is missing the point. nick drake? really? no!

one stones album only. the VU albums out. no martyn no seger no shuggie otis dr john etc (and i love him)

gonna start my campaign for LAMF early. listen only to the original cassette mix, put it in yr top ten, make sure one of the greatest rock record in history doesn't get robbed again!

http://youtu.be/nYNM6_O3MjU

LAMF would get my vote.

no power pop either. bye bye big star and the shoes

should miles make the cut?

at least let dark magus in

the results are always fun but AG's quixotic banhammering might be my favorite part of these polls

Im inclined to limit the voting to no more than 2 albums by one artist

seems dubious to let Can in and not Miles

You can't take Miles out you white rockist cracker!

i think 2 by one artist is a good idea as long as miles gets 2 in.

xp

Exactly! Brother.

hey guys is this an "anti-rolling stone" canon poll because....stuff like modern lovers, stooges, led zep, and bowie are all totally rolling stone canon albums, and all made the rolling stone 100 greatest albums of all time list that i read so religiously over and over as a kid

like neil youngs rock albums are in but harvest isnt. Im stuck with tonights the night as it might not rock like the others yet the spirit of it just fits perfectly (same with beefheart)

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, October 5, 2012 7:19 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

rust never sleeps was on the list, as was tonight's the night...after the goldrush was on, not sure harvest even made it

Tribute to Jack Johnson should be eligible at the very least (xposts).

so was VU - loaded and other VU albums

hey guys is this an "anti-rolling stone" canon poll because....stuff like modern lovers, stooges, led zep, and bowie are all totally rolling stone canon albums, and all made the rolling stone 100 greatest albums of all time list that i read so religiously over and over as a kid

Well that's what I thought and have got slated for nomming outside the box!

i get the feeling that algerian goalkeeper has never read rolling stone and just assumes that their 100 greatest albums list is 100 eric clapton albums?

"one album by ____ only" makes no sense unless there's some serious musical/heaviosity difference between that album and the rest of the artist's catalog. which there definitely isn't with the Stones, it's just arbitary. all or nothing, man.

The Who - Who's Next

man rolling stone fucking hates these proto-punkers, i have a great bootleg of an early show they played in cleveland with rocket from the tombs and electric eels

rolling stone hated sabbath and the stooges in the 70s

re: the who, a stopped clock is right twice a day

I feel like the 'anti-rolling stone' thing is kind of a misnomer - these polls to me have been about 'music that rocks' in a kind of Joe Carducci-via-Chuck Eddy kind of way, in opposition to stuff that doesn't really rock although it might feature guitars or other signifiers of rock music (Rudipherous explained all this better upthread iirc).

in this poll the stooges will be top 10, whereas in the RS list they were prolly mid to bottom half

'In This Poll The Stooges Will Be Top 10 - It's the 70s anti Rolling-Stone rock poll!'

Hawkwind - In Search of Space
Hawkwind - Doremi Fasol Latido
Hawkwind - Warrior on the Edge of Time

anyway less whinging more noms plz

Does anyone want to help run a tracks poll?

I have never read RS in my life. I don't even know what their fucking canon is. I just have some vague notion that it involves a lot of tedium and Eric Clapton obviously!

remember what happened last time you roped other people into doing the gruntwork on a poll where you and only you get to set the arbitrary rules of inclusion and exclusion? (xpost)

Glen Branca - Songs '77-'79

here ya go

Rainbow - Rising

er Rainbow-Rising

Jimi Hendrix - Band Of Gypsys
james Blood Ulmer - Tales of Captain Black
MC5 - High Time

sorry if there are duplicates there

The Ruts - The Crack

Hawkwind - Quark, Strangeness & Charm
Hawklords - 25 Years On

the hendrix was recorded on 1 Jan 1970 i think xxp

ok hendrix really? Enjoy your Rollingstonecanonocracy, sheeple

just call this "best rock albums of the 70s"

Slade - Slayed?

Black Widow - Sacrifice

m@tt did you see the diff between the noms and the results on the 80s poll?

Also this one might be a bit debatable but -
X-Ray Spex - Germ Free Adolescents

Black Flag-Nervous Breakdown

m@tt did you see the diff between the noms and the results on the 80s poll?

― space dokken (Edward III), Friday, October 5, 2012 12:55 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a little? those threads were long, just feel like this is gonna be way more normal than like 27 nitzer ebb songs and random metal & punk stuff results which was p cool and interesting imo

is keith hudson, lee perry and prince far i taking it too far....??

you could've looked at the 80s noms and said, ha pretenders and van halen good luck losers, but they came in at #351 and #127 respectively

xp

You can have Funkadelic but not Shuggie Otis? I am not bitching but I just need to understand what is the line here? Is it just subjective to one person or are there rules ?

maybe the rules are "could chuck eddy qualify it as metal by some tortured logic?"

there are rules and they are subjective to one person

Nazareth - Loud n' Proud (at least listen to them invent doom metal with their cover of dylan's 'ballad of hollis brown')

I thought rush invented doom metal

http://youtu.be/1YIjte73IPg

Lula Côrtes & Zé Ramalho - Paêbirú

actually this might invent stoner rock/metal but i never know where the line is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYPQFW5erA8

EIII please check your email

If I nominate Buzzcocks records are they likely to get vetoed?

Lula Côrtes & Zé Ramalho - Paêbirú

great record!

oh man stick around for 4:31 of nazareth, fuckin' a shit gets nuts

im asking people to stick to a heavier kind of rock like we did with the 80s poll. Though some really weird outthere music will be accepted (like nurse with wound)

xp
i think buzzcocks qualify under punk?

i should say!

Spirit - 12 Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus

just nominate it dudes, it if gets shot down you can tell yr therapist about it

Third World War - II

alot of miles should totally make the cut but alot of stuff here is rock but nowhere near RAWKS enough imo to fit spirit of 80s poll, carducci-eddy aesthetic good guidepost (though obv chuck eddy hates alot of stuff on 80s poll eg big black, slayer, maiden). my guiding question would be is most of the entire album (not just one or two cuts like after the gold rush) composed of tracks that you could imagine flying down the road in yr t-top firebird screaming 'OMG THIS FUCKING RAWKS'? could you bring it to a friend and go 'dude you like stooges/sabbath/early funkadelic/pere ubu/alice cooper/zz top/boston? you should check this out'? does it rock harder than springsteen? some neil young yes, some neil young no. i love elvis costello but no, blood and chocolate is probably his most rawking album and it would've been out of place between candlemass and skinny puppy. i also suggested loosing anti rolling stone canonicity but heavily restricting the aesthetic parameters. stones imo the only ones i'd admit are sticky fingers, exile, and some girls. the others don't rawk enough or aren't pure enough rawk imo. only bowie i'd admit is man who sold the world, ziggy, and aladdin sane. no dylan qualifies imo. nor any beatles related stuff, even though 'jet' does rawk. there's already been an ilx 70s poll and million other 70s polls elsewhere, this doesn't need to be this. totally trusting ag to make the judgments here and would hope errs on the side of strictness, esp since there is so much to choose from in the 70s. no turds in the punch bowl.

Ok then
Buzzcocks - Spiral Scratch]
Buzzcocks - Another Music In A Different Kitchen

balls otm would a mod remove the rolling stone part in the thread?

no dylan
no springsteen
will allow band of gypsies but thats it
1 stones
1 pink floyd

EIII answer your email dammit

i always think that spirit album is 60s but it isn't. an all time favourite. xp

SOME GIRLS FOR STONES PLZ! even the temptations cover on that rocks.

i always think that spirit album is 60s but it isn't. an all time favourite. xp

― stirmonster, Friday, October 5, 2012 1:17 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i figured it was close but i looked it up

shitloads of stuff from the 70s is really 60s albums but i guess they have to count

1 Stones + 1 Pink Floyd = 33% of Rolling Stone Canon.

Pentagram - First Daze Here
Crushed Butler - Uncrushed

^^AG -- you'll have to rule on these, awesome 70s hard rock that wasn't actually released until the 00s??

ok. from reading the recent posts i'm reckoning this poll is jamaicanist so i'll leave out the lee perry even though i frequently fly down the road in my t-top firebird listening to it screaming 'OMG THIS FUCKING RAWKS'?

M@tt if it was recorded in the 70s its in

Captain Beyond - Captain Beyond
Armageddon - Armageddon
Heldon - Stand By

M@tt if it was recorded in the 70s its in

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, October 5, 2012 1:25 PM (44 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

believe they were, i will double check

hell yeah to captain beyond

Creedence Clearwater Revival - Cosmo's Factory
& side-eye to anyone who objects.

Pere Ubu - Dub Housing
Pere Ubu - Terminal Tower

Yoko Ono/Plastic Ono Band

If we're doing Pere Ubu (which I've very much in favor of) the I'll add
Devo - Are We Not Me? We Are Devo

Sir Lord Baltimore - Kingdom Come

xpost Are We Not Men obviously.

Leaf Hound - Growers of Mushroom

Jobriath - Jobriath

Guru Guru - Hinten
Guru Guru - UFO
Sixty-Nine - Circle Of The Crayfish
Attila - Attila (feel free to disallow this one if you don't want Billy Joel in the poll)

haha no attila is an awesome nom

Good call on the Jobriath.

Les Rallizes Dénudés - '77 Live

Sweet - Desolation Boulevard
Thin Lizzy - Live and Dangerous
Television - The Blow Up
KISS - Destroyer
Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny
Sir Lord Baltimore - Kingdom Come
Motorhead - Overkill
Aerosmith - Rocks
Yoko Ono - Fly
Ted Nugent - Double Live Gonzo!
Foghat - Live

i'm sure some of these are already in there

Aerosmith - Rocks
Aerosmith - Toys in the Attic

Ha xpost

Jethro Tull - Aqualung
Larry Coryell - Barefoot Boy

If anyone hasn't heard that last one, it's excellent post-Hendrix guitar fusion.

Scorpions - Taken by Force
Scorpions - Virgin Killer

Judas Priest - Sin After Sin

blue oyster cult - agents of fortune
blue oyster cult - on your feet or on your knees
blue oyster cult - spectres

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AumbddEHET5xdEZaQ0paMUZpNEdGeUdRSGRTY3BfV2c#gid=0

Deep Purple - Machine Head

Van Halen - s/t

it occurs to me that the blow up came out in the 80s :(

a few more

Budgie - Never Turn Your Back On A Friend
Heart - Dreamboat Annie
The Runaways - Queens of Noise
Ace Frehley - Ace Frehley
Dead Boys - Young, Loud, and Snotty
UFO - Force It
The James Gang - Rides Again
Babe Ruth - First Base

Uriah Heep - Demons and Wizards
Uriah Heep - The Magician's Birthday

Sham 69 - Tell Us The Truth

can people please refer to the spreadsheet before nominating

the blow up was recorded in '78 so it's fair game

xps

Does this count? Much of it's basically Stones + Springsteen territory:

Patti Smith Group - Easter

xpost
Did I nominate something that was on there already? I tried to check before each nom.

John McLaughlin - Devotion

thx for the spreadsheet ag!

Brian Eno - Here Come the Warm Jets

Not sure I'd support any other Eno albums but this one's a noisy rock album imo. Fripp's solo on "Baby's on Fire" alone should seal it.

Radio Ethiopia is the Patti Smith album that fits for this poll imo so -
Patti Smith - Radio Ethiopia

EIII please check email

And with thanks to mr balls for the reminder -
The Runaways - self-titled

The Tony Williams Lifetime - Turn It Over

The Scream is on that spreadsheet twice.

Pretty Things - Parachute

I wasn't sure if the Rallizes album counted or not! \m/

The Dictators - Go Girl Crazy

Brian Eno - Here Come the Warm Jets

Not sure I'd support any other Eno albums but this one's a noisy rock album imo. Fripp's solo on "Baby's on Fire" alone should seal it.

I wanted to nom this and Taking Tiger Mountain but the Tosser-erateri scared me off. It's all gotta be be fucking rock music and you are a dick to suggest anything else :(

AG : devo is in the spreadsheet twice for same album, are we not men.

also, cant believe only one bowie album has been nom'd so far.

or, is the whole point of this to highlight albums that dont get the love they deserve ?

but the Tosser-erateri scared me off. It's all gotta be be fucking rock music and you are a dick to suggest anything else :(

maybe because, like the 80s poll , its a rock poll

Amon Düül II - Wolf City
Ramones - Road to Ruin
Pink Fairies - Neverneverland

thought about eno, decided i wouldn't nominate but would be happy if someone else did

could a mod please change thread title to Nominations for a 70s ROCK Albums Poll

we can dump the rolling stone part.

fwiw would love if some ilxor started a 70s hippie folk & singer songwriter poll. walking dogs just now thought that a 70s tracks poll of artists that belong nowhere near this poll but have a couple of tracks that totally would fit eg 'all the girls love alice' by elton john, maybe doesn't have to be a poll but just a thread, but on that basis those first two eno albums would have like at least 60% of their tracks on there so they totally qualify i think, at least as much as siren for sure

maybe because, like the 80s poll , its a rock poll

The weakness is that you widen or contract your claws on what is 'rock' when it suits you. Need more wider minds.

Sorry that sounds like a sack of shit! Not had a cigarette in 4 days and am going insane but still mean it!

Ugh, one of my co-workers is trying to quit smoking and she was really going off the rails yesterday.

could a mod please change thread title to Nominations for a 70s ROCK Albums Poll

we can dump the rolling stone part.

Fuck me if it is just that! Then I am not fucking interested.

damo needs a new nico patch : now !

Judas Priest - Stained Class

Alice Cooper - Billion Dollar Babies
Mott the Hoople - Mott
New York Dolls - New York Dolls
New York Dolls - Too Much Too Soon

Scorpions - In Trance

ok im suspending nominations for now and will ask a mod to lock thread temporarily and i will run a standard poll asking if people want a stricter rock poll like we did with the 80s poll or an all genre 70s poll with nothing excluded

ILX decides the Poll. 70s Rock Poll vs 70s all genre poll.

someone get seward and xhuxk in on this

5000 posts.

Sparks - Kimono My House
Sparks - A Woofer in Tweeter's Clothing

I was serious about the Wilie Colon nomination, but I have to admit, I could make a better case if every track were as driving as Pirana, Timbalero, or Aguanile (or even as acidic as the slower Sonando Despierto), so I give up. (Go listen to it anyway.)

(What would Will Hermes do? Library copy of Love Goes to Buildings on Fire now sitting in my to read pile.)

(Maybe we should have a pole of 70s music Will Hermes mentions in his book, or that relates to music he mentions.)

We need to work out what is allowed in the poll. Anything borderline has to have a good reason for being included 'i want to vote for it' just isn't enough.
Im inclined to not allow Springsteen/Talking Heads/Blondie type stuff but lets see what you all say.
If we cant agree I obviously have final say. But we do want to do a different type of poll and the 80s one worked amazingly well.

a 70s poll leaving out parliament,Sly stone, stevie wonder, marvin ,james brown, chic etc pains me but we can still have Funkadelic, Mandrill and other like-minded bands.

poll requires negative votes obv

There's an extra entry on the spreadsheet that says "Are We Not Me?" for Devo (in addition to one with the correct title).

(Sounds like an Otomo Yoshihide title.)

nominations are closed

im not adding anything to the spreadsheet and i requested on the mod board this thread be locked.

ZZ Top - Deguello

Oh, whoops! Sorry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_HMXbk3g08

There's an extra entry on the spreadsheet that says "Are We Not Me?" for Devo (in addition to one with the correct title).

(Sounds like an Otomo Yoshihide title.)

― _Rudipherous_, Friday, October 5, 2012 9:18 PM

someone has me in their kill file ...

Squeeze - Cool for Cats
The Doors - L.A. Woman
JJ Cale - Troubadour
Ted Nugent - s/t
Johnny Thunders & the Heartbreakers - L.A.M.F.
Rainbow - Long Live Rock n' Roll
Humble Pie - Rock On

The Faces - A Nod Is As Good As A Wink...To A Blind Horse