1970-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll! Nominations ! (ends Oct 17 you slack bastards - jjjusten edit)

I'm not gonna go into it but some co-runners really just wanted a 70s poll, and one that sticks to rocking. soI've given in to them so now we have this. Sorry if it annoys anyone.

So krautrock and arty stuff is ok but it has to rock.
So 1st 2 Kraftwerk is ok, 1st Tangerine Dream is ok (if its a 70s album i forget)

The spreadsheet is still here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AumbddEHET5xdEZaQ0paMUZpNEdGeUdRSGRTY3BfV2c#gid=0 and i will remove the 60s stuff later. If you guys can help me by telling me what is from the 60s that would be great.

,kraut,arty,prog will still count but it has to rock. The others think we need to be strict on that so we will.
Im putting my foot down and allowing all guitar based funk though. Bootsy,isleys,pfunk.

No folk, singer songwriter stuff.

If that disappoints some im sorry.

If everyone can nominate in this format
Funkadelic - Maggot Brain
Television - Marquee Moon ie in bold with 1st letters capitalised that helps with tabulating etc.

And i retain this from the other thread
I realise to many it will seem to be very arbitrary and bizarre and frankly fucked up. Well, it is. But it should mean the results are different from other polls and at the end of the day, it makes sense to us! So we ask you to play along and join in the fun. Don't have any expectations and nominate anything you think might fit and we will add to the list what does. Don't be upset if you get a knockback but don't be scared to nominate. You do stand a better chance with more obscure albums,as the best thing about the polls are to introduce lesser known gems.
Campaigning on the nominations and voting threads are Key. This helps highlight albums and others will check them out and get voted on.

Nominations will end Next Monday Oct 15 unless others ask for more time as they explore their collections.

Whatever happens it is all down to all the ilxors who vote. You will decide how the poll turns out. But the emphasis should be on what 'rocks'. But clearly some have differing ideas on what rocks. It will be up to you to decide when voting, but we can use this thread to decide the kind of albums you want to vote for and if you purely go for the heaviest albums that will be fine. It will be entirely up to you all to decide how to vote for upto 100 albums. But feel free to use this thread to reach consensus on what you think people should vote for plus campaign for albums.
There will be a spotify playlist and balls will be starting a separate tracks poll to go with this (thanks balls for the help!)

And in a final twist .... we think that there should be a 3 album vote limit for a band/artist so to avoid top 10s with the same bands in it like with Sonic Youth in the 80s poll. Do you agree with that or want no limits?

woah woah why the change?

jk, i'm the punk responsible for this clusterfuck

Thanks, dude.

so any annoyance or eyerolling direct my way. for ppl worried a similar thing will be done for 60s, not soon after this one don't worry, probably sometime during romney's first term

full discretion and veto power w/ ag but for guidance you must rock this hard to ride this ride:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXrIiE06wUQ

id hope things rock more than that..

oh and were back to one Stones album - Exile. One Floyd - animals. One Springsteen - Darkness On The Edge Of Town. Bowie gets Aladdin sane and ziggy

yeah i'll be doing the tracks poll and i'm really hoping to see alot of tracks that would qualify from artists/albums that really don't qualify for albums poll (not restricting it to that mind you, you can still vote for 'supernaut' don't worry, just saying if you wanted to nominate goodbye yellow brick road on the basis that some of it really does rawk well it's gonna get vetoed here i bet but in tracks poll 'all the girls love alice' and 'saturday's alright for fighting' could totally get in). also for big canonical artists ag has quarantined - stones bowie floyd boss - i will consider only tracks/singles NOT on those albums listed above and tbh for springsteen you're gonna have to remind me what tracks could possibly qualify. i'll be fairly catholic there and esp friendly to hard rock moves/gestures by not normally rocking artists. so if ag vetoes it cherrypick the most shredding cut and it probably makes my poll.

The spreadsheet has been taken back to an earlier version so a lot of stuff nominated is no longer on it. Quite a bit of it is no longer eligible.
So please everyone check the spreadsheet before nominating plus make sure it fits the new criteria.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AumbddEHET5xdEZaQ0paMUZpNEdGeUdRSGRTY3BfV2c#gid=0

also i will start tracks poll nomination thread and 'rules', etc tomorrow so don't just list them here. and now i sleep.

Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per Un Amico
Sir Lord Baltimore - Kingdom Come
A.R. & Machines - Echo
A.R. & Machines - A.R. IV
SBB ‎– Nowy Horyzont
La Dusseldorf - ST
P.F.M. - Chocolate Kings
King Crimson - Red
Van der Graaf Generator - Still Life
Üç Hürel - Üç Hürel Arşivi
Walter Wegmuller - Tarot
Twink - Think Pink
Amon Duul II - Yeti
Michael Rother - Sterntaler
Sensations Fix - Fragments of Light
Sensations' Fix - ST
Erkin Koray - Erkin Koray 2
Erkin Koray - ElektronikTuerkueler
Steve Hillage - Fish Rising
Le Orme - Felona e Sorona
Selda - Selda

oh, sorry, didn't see the spreadsheet

can i get :

Devo - Q: Are we not men ? A: We Are Devo

put back into the spreadsheet please, as it surely must qualify - even under the new rules ?

i think it got eliminated by accident cuz it was in there twice, i'm sure ag will catch as it certainly qualifies

also: Lookin For Some Hot Stuff: ILX 70s RAWK Tracks Poll - Metal, Buttrock, Punk, AOR, and More NOMINATIONS THREAD (nomination period closes 17OCT12)

70's Ocrilim:

Mike Oldfield - Hergest Ridge

Stray- Stray
T2- It'll All Work Out In Boomland
Lucifer's Friend- Lucifer's Friend
Randy Holden- Population II
Groundhogs- Thank Christ For The Bomb
Night Sun- Mournin'
Buffalo- Volcanic Rock
Granicus- Granicus

Been away for a few days so I've missed a lot of the discussion about this poll. I've had a look through and would like to nominate
Ash Ra Tempel - Ash Ra Tempel

Note sure if it's eligible but if it is I'd like this one too.
Roy Harper - Stormcock

Oh wait, think the "No folk, singer songwriter stuff." stipulation has fucked my Roy Harper nomination. Shame, that album rawks!!

Not sure if this is the best Ray Russell nom, but it's the only one I've heard. 50% free-ish jazz and 50% out guitar maelstrom:

Ray Russell - Secret Asylum

(if there were a tracks poll I'd be repping hard for Stained Angel Morning)

Oh there is a tracks poll.

Everything I post on this thread is going to be followed up by a correction btw.

Bolder Damn - Mourning
Randy Holden - Population II
Laser Pace - Granfaloon

I only just discovered Laser Pace the other day from Scott's thread so it is his indirect contribution. Laser Pace - Granfalloon (Takoma - 1974) Wow!

This thread title is going to bring a lot of fans of teenage Marc Maron

Truth & Janey- No Rest For The Wicked

ok these have disappeared from the noms spreadsheet - they rock.
Lula Côrtes e Zé Ramalho - Paêbirú
osanna - milano calibro 9
osanna - palepoli
il balletto di bronzo - ys
museo rosenbach - zarathustra
the red crayola - soldier talk
The Hampton Grease Band - music to eat
Glenn Phillips - lost at sea
Kennelmus - folkstone prism

also - you need to lose one pere ubu "dub housing" from the spreadsheet - there are two entries.
new noms:
the girls - live at the rathskeller 5.17.79
dickies - the incredible shrinking dickies
red rhodes - velvet hammer in a cowboy band
univeria zekt - the unnamables
and if tangerine dream gets in, the surely, we should by all rights be able to vote for:
popol vuh - in den gärten pharaos
IMO that n the Tange noms really do not "rock" at all, but maybe indeed be thought of as "heavy"
make of that what you will ! will we see a wave of cluster & asmus tietchens noms now?

Another missing one:

ZZ Top - Tres Hombres

ha, that didn't last long, though I'm not surprised. you should actually remove this:

Residents - Meet the Residents

I'm not sure about everything else, but I'm glad we're back to limiting it to the 70s, even if decades seem arbitrary. Actually the late 60s seem a lot less like the beginning of the 70s than late 70s feel like the beginning of the 80s, to me anyway.

(Or maybe the 80s started early and the 70s started late. Talking strictly musically here, obviously.)

So half of my nominations were disqualified?

Some 60s stuff still on the spreadsheet:

Led Zeppelin I
Soft Machine - Volumes I and II

Simply Saucer - Cyborgs Revisited

and King Crimson - Red is on there twice.

some of those Jimi albums need removing

Here's my noms from the other thread without weirdo arty folk records, only the ones that rock
Gary Wilson - You Think You Really Know Me
Donnie and Joe Emerson - Dreamin' Wild
Mayo Thompson - Corky's Debt to His Father
Laser Pace - Granfalloon
Dark - Round The Edges
Michael Farneti - Good Morning Kisses
Hackamore Brick - One Kiss Leads to Another
Jeff Liberman -Solitude Within
Barış Manço - 2023

From now on any albums that are nominated in the wrong format I will just ignore. Please capitalise the 1st letter of each word. It makes it easier to catch duplicates and wont muck up tabulating.
Also please look at spreadsheet before nominating.

Cheers Jacob, added them.

The second spreadsheet, not the first?

Gotta have some Hawkwind in here.

its the same one.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AumbddEHET5xdEZaQ0paMUZpNEdGeUdRSGRTY3BfV2c#gid=0

Just a few more now that I better understand this poll
Song - Song
Michael Quatro - Dancers, Romancers, Dreamers & Schemers
Leaf Hound - Growers of Mushroom
Glass Harp - Glass Harp
The Gentrys - The Gentrys

Because the group Song is sort of unsearchable here's their RAWK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX69WL6-tgw

please dont embed youtubes. Makes threads unwieldy for some

Gotta have some Hawkwind in here.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau)

According to the spreadsheet pretty much every Hawkwind album made in the 70s has been nommed.

remember folks its a harder rock poll not soft rock. The others are strict about wanting that.

Karlheinz Stockhausen - Stop/Ylem

@JacobSanders: yeah i love that mayo thompson LP but i don't see how it (or tange dream , or my own popol vuh nom) cut it here, couldn't rightfully say it "rocks".
however, not my call, and i do salute you wholheartedly for your valour in bringing it to the table, good sir !

Cosmic Jokers - Cosmic Jokers

Tubeway Army - Tubeway Army

Embryo - We Keep On

I guess I'm voting more with the Arty, Noisy, Weird end of the 70's rock spectrum, as well as records that straight out rock, but maybe not many people have heard them, like the Gentrys record recorded at Sun Studios, which is 3/4's Heavy southern rock. Mayo's record may not be hard rock, but it's got weird noises and sonically was way out of place as far as Texas music in the 70's, I dunno, carry on.

Popol Vuh - Coeur de Verre

the emphasis on krautrock is on rock btw.

it has to pass Balls rock test.

Sparks - Kimono My House
Sparks - A Woofer In Tweeter's Clothing
Manuel Göttsching - Inventions for Electric Guitar

Not sure if these rock enough but they are certainly not folky.

Maybe Popol Vuh is a bit too pastoral? Not enough Balls!

Essential Logic - Beat Rhythm News

Things that don't have DRUMS AT ALL don't generally rock...

Yeah, that's what I figured...disregard the Göttsching.

Amazing record though...

The Modern Lovers - The Modern Lovers

Hell yes

New York Dolls - New York Dolls

Dead Boys - We Have Come For Your Children

Jandek - Ready For The House

Did someone veto this?:

Larry Coryell - Barefoot Boy

I think it fits in perfectly with McLaughlin/Mahavishnu and electric Miles. Plenty of noisy guitar shredding.

Os Mundi - 43 Minuten

Electric Sandwich - Electric Sandwich

Yatha Sidhra - A Meditation Mass

Rabbitt - Boys Will Be Boys
Esperanto - Rock Orchestra
Neil Merryweather - Space Rangers

Wayne County and The Electric Chairs - Things Your Mother Never Told You

The Popol Vuh nominated by Mr. Parrot (Coeur de Verre/Herz auf Glas) is totally appropriate. The heaviest record they ever did-- wall to wall electric guitars.

Piping up to say: it totally is! Slow and heavy, and if that's not your steez I'm sorry for you.

Are you guys making some of these up?

The Made Up Bands Poll doesn't start till next week! Coeur de Verre is an amazing album thanks for chipping in Jon.

Yep Coeur de Verre is an amazing album, but
imo the heaviest
Popol Yuh - Sei Still, Wisse ICH BIN

fictional bands poll would be pretty great.

I was thinking the same Jacob, but it is from 1981.

Annexus Quam - Osmose

Cecil Taylor Unit - Dark To Themselves (1976)
Cecil Taylor - Nuits De La Fondation Maeght Vols 1,2, & 3 ( 1971)
these are on fire from beginning to end, they BLAZE. no guitar.
und die Frechheit !:
Vladimir Horowitz - Plays Scriabin (columbia masterworks 73 )
rocks harder than taj mahal travelers, tangerine dream, popol vuh, jandek, mayo thompson, all of which,
IMO, rock nary a jot.

In Memoriam
1970-1979 WTF Poll
Your life was short yet bright, only to be cut down by the forces of contrarianism

Why so much bitchiness all the time? I just like finding new shit and poll's like this serve that purpose. If I didn't like I would just ignore it.

I didn't realize that Popol Vuh was from 81, sorry ignore that one.

don't lump rockin-ass Jandek & Mayo Thompson in with all that fluffy white cloud music (btw I love all that fluffy white cloud music)

what we need is another war over what "to rock" really means

people nominating classical + jazz piano music of any kind & using my Jandek nomination to justify it clearly don't get rock music and should be banned from this poll forever

I'm just being a grump, DSP... I'm actually psyched to start digging into the oodles of stuff on here I've never heard of. I think this poll will potentially introduce me to more new music than any poll ever... Although I do have to kind of agree with crut above, too. If I didn't know Cecil Taylor and Scriabin already and checked them out hoping to find something in the spirit of this poll, I would probably be miffed.

I would like to nominate a lot of private press brain melting rock that shreds, but I don't know how to let people hear it and you can't post youtubes here. It can't just be all proto metal riffage.

start a youtube thread

For me anything can'rock' it could be Cecil Taylor or Bela Bartok. I am quite uncomplicated it just hits me or it doesn't. That is probably why I couldn't for the life of me run one of these polls.

Illes - Ne Sirjatok Lanyok
Jean-Claude Vannier - L'enfant assassin des mouches
Jazz Q + Martina Kratochvíla - Elegie
Fusioon - Minorisa
Ame Son - Catalyse
Edward H. Dafis - 'Sneb Yn Becso Dam
May Blitz - May Blitz

sorry I didn't group these all together, I was going through my records and found a few more I forgot
Bang - Bang
Bang - Mother/Bow To The King
Blue Mountain Eagle - Blue Mountain Eagle
Banchee - Thinkin'
Demian - Demian

Amon Duul II - Live in London

their most rockingest

I would like to nominate a lot of private press brain melting rock that shreds, but I don't know how to let people hear it and you can't post youtubes here. It can't just be all proto metal riffage.

― JacobSanders, Monday, October 8, 2012 6:41 PM (5 hours ago)

you can post youtube links, just paste the youtu.be style links by clicking the "share" button on youtube

Not in here.Start another thread for that please.

Bull - This Is Bull
Syrius - Devil's Masquerade
East Of Eden - East Of Eden
Jasper Wrath - Jasper Wrath
He6 - Go Go Sound '71 Vol 1
He6 - Go Go Sound '71 Vol 2
Food Brain - Bansan (Social Gathering)

James Brown - Love Power Peace

I dunno that one, does it really rock though? I know we're being a bit looser with definitions with funk but...

Shakey mo are you around? you can help me out here

rocks harder than any studio alb he put out, it's legendary

Did my Roy Harper 'Stormcock' nomination get vetoed?

I'm not gonna take the huff like, just gonna keep on repping for it 'till I get told off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvTpAJPksuQ

Flamin' Groovies - Flamingo
Flamin' Groovies - Teenage Head

Jim Dickinson - Dixie Fried

Rush- 2112
Rush- Hemispheres
Scorpions- Fly To The Rainbow
Scorpions- In Trance
Scorpions- Lovedrive

no roy harper and please dont embed youtubes

its not the kind of 'rock' that balls is looking for

The Electric Eels - God Says Fuck You

DMZ - s/t

fkn love Stormcock and Lifemask but I can dig that Roy Harper ruling.

Armand Schaubroeck - Ratfucker

Ian Hunter - You're Never Alone With A Schizofrenic
Silverhead - s/t

im expecting stirmonster and hellhouse to show up and nominate stuff in the vein of the 80s poll plus others to join in nominating funk albums.

no new york is in the spreadsheet twice

V/A - No New York
Various - No New York

I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking how appreciative I'd be if those of you nominating super-ultra-obscure stuff would give a sentence of two about the artist--their sound, who you'd compare them to, where they're from, etc--just to have a jumping-off point for figuring out which I'd like to check out first and stuff.

Youtube thread!

So anyone going to add some post 75 music? some punk or whatever?

Jayne County & The Electric Chairs - Blatantly Offensive

Mars - Mars lp

I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking how appreciative I'd be if those of you nominating super-ultra-obscure stuff would give a sentence of two about the artist--their sound, who you'd compare them to, where they're from, etc--just to have a jumping-off point for figuring out which I'd like to check out first and stuff.

― Clarke B., Tuesday, October 9, 2012 2:34 PM (2 hours ago)

yeah, I've got a longer list I'm pulling together and plan to do this

Kin Ping Meh - s/t

obv not everyone will do this

Sorry folks but I am terrible at summarising music and avoid doing it all costs. At best all I can do is make comparisons with similar sounding bands and still end up sounding cringeworthy. Whatever it takes to have the ability to write about music I fatally lack it!

U.K. Subs - Another Kind of Blues

Crass - The Feeding of the 5000

too bad Death SS didn't actually release anything until the 80s, AFAIK...

The Edgar Winter Group - They Only Come Out at Night

obv. not punk but this can't go overlooked.

yeah. There's a comp of the early Paul Chain era stuff but that covers 78-84 or something.
xp

xp - oh cool, I look forward to voting for it!

Also, these guys rock:

Redbone - Potlatch
Redbone - Redbone
Redbone - The Witch Queen of New Orleans

wait never mind, that comp is obv. DQ'd. Oh well...

That reminds me, what about Pentagram - First Daze Here -- it's recordings from the 70s but the comp was released in like the mid-2000s IIRC. It's listed in the spreadsheet so I assume that sort of thing counts?

yeah

Those Jayne/Wayne County and the Electric Chairs albums are incredible. I've never heard of them before, at least I don't think I have.

listening to Things Your MOther Never Told You now... pretty fucking great!!!

were these guys excluded for any reason in particular or just not yet nominated?

T. Rex - T. Rex
T. Rex - Electric Warrior

Dr. Feelgood - Down By The Jetty
Blues Creation - Demon & Eleven Children
Salem Mass - Witch Burning
The Stranglers - Rattus Norvegicus
The Stranglers - No More Heroes
The Jam - In the City

The Dictators - Go Girl Crazy!
Ian Dury - New Boots and Panties
Nina Hagen Band - Nina Hagen Band
The Only Ones - The Only Ones
The Beat - The Beat
XTC - White Music

Osibisa - Osibisa
Black Merda - Black Merda

The Crawdaddys - Crawdaddy Express

It doesn't sound a like an album from that decade but it is.

Crawdaddy Express is just one of the most beautiful post Nuggets garage rock albums ever. Honest!

Unknown Artists - 100% Unknown Fibers Odd Lots

Kraftwerk - 4 (Feat. Neu!)

Ack! Didn't see this one on the nominations list...and there can be no doubt as to whether or not this one rocks.

is that the "Bremen Radio" boot or something else? if it is you're right, that one dserves consideration but I dunno if it's "official" enough to count

Yeah, it's the Bremen Radio boot...I wasn't sure it was "official" enough either, but I figured I'd let somebody else make that decision cuz I love that album/bootleg too much.

Desperate Bicycles - New Cross, New Cross

As awesome as it is if we allow bootlegs it opens a can of worms.

yeah cuz then I'll start stanning for black sabbath's paris '70 and asbury park '75

nom nom nom

The Fall - 77-Early Years-79
The Undertones - Teenage Kicks
The Hand of Doom - Poisonoise
Cramps - Gravest Hits
Wipers - Is This Real
The Pirates - Out of Their Skulls
Gift - Gift
Devo - Hardcore Vols 1 and 2
Gaseneta - Sooner or Later
John Lee Hooker - Endless Boogie
Notekillers - Notekillers 1977-1981
Pink Floyd - Obscured by Clouds
Monitor - Beak
Iron Maiden - The Soundhouse Tapes
Os Mutantes - Cavaleiros Negros
Mirrors - Something That Would Never Do
Trust - L'elite
Jorge Ben - Africa Brasil
Bob Seger System - Mongrel

noms I considered but rejected as not rock enough

Don Bradshaw-Leather - Distance Between Us
Damiao Experienca - Planeta Lamma
Kris Kringle - Sodom
Dynastie Crisis - s/t 1970
Michael Yonkers - Grimwood

Yeah, I didn't consider the "can of worms" argument. xp

"Africa Brasil" possibly stretching it a bit? It's possibly my favourite album of the 70s but I wouldn't vote for it in a rock poll.

Trapeze - Medusa

forgot to bold that, sorry

Trapeze - Medusa

Alex Oriental Experience - Alex

yeah seandalai makes a good point

Ash Ra Tempel - Join Inn

i doubt i would have voted for it but dynastie crisis rocks, surely?

my thinking on africa brasil is - some prominent gtr and generally funky as hell, if "ponta de lanca africano" don't rock then I don't know what

not like I'm gonna cry if it gets rejected, there's already an embarrassment of riches on the nom list

dynastie crisis feels like a proto-disco interpretation of prog to me, if somebody else wants to nom, ok, but the only french band that ever rocked was trust, right?

was on the fence about exuma, too. clearly a folk record but dank & spooky enough to qualify I think. c.f. nurse w/ wound and current 93

xp

ooh I thought of a good one

Bad Brains - Black Dots

yeah!

Any punks or proggers or funkers on here who bought music in the 70s like to tell us about how it was back then, how things changed , how it influenced the 80s?
I actually wish sonic youth released an album back then cuz at least they generate chat!

I'm kind of wondering where the boundaries around Prog-Rock lie... Obv. stuff that is overly symphonic and classical-based might be out, but what about the stuff that's more like free jazz/noisy jamming?

Like... IMO Gentle Giant seems questionable, but anything Soft Machine did in the 70s is fair game.

What about A Lamb Lies Down on Broadway? Can the whole album be nominated or should we be resigned to nominating the more rocking tracks from that on the track poll?

lol nm it's already been nommed...

I'd be for it but balls might not.
I would like to get the ilx funkers involved and I'd also like to see hellhouse/stirmonster adding the late 70s music that would have fit right into the 80s poll. Bad Brains,NWW,Chrome do that but we need more! It shouldn't be all buttrawk. There's more to the 70s than that!

Buttrock is all I know! I will have to dig deep on AMG and RYM to find other stuff...

Well fuckit:

Blondie - Parallel Lines

no

we agreed no blondie/talking heads. sorry

ok. well so much for me nommin' late 70s stuff off the top of my head.

and if any trolls try to argue you will be ignored!

updated spreadsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AumbddEHET5xdEZaQ0paMUZpNEdGeUdRSGRTY3BfV2c#gid=0

What about Huey Lewis & The News? IIRC Phil Lynott was a fan of theirs.

Wizzard - Wizzard Brew

argh nm again, they never released anything in the 70s. Ignore me, I'm just stirring the pot...

Grand Funk Railroad - Live Album
The Tony Williams Lifetime - Turn It Over

go heavy or go home, imo

here's one:

The Deviants - The Mona (The Carnivorous Circus)

oh yeah and these guys:

999 - 999
999 - Separates
999 - High Energy Plan

and just a random thought --- what about musicals? Can I nominate The Rocky Horror Picture Show album??

Robert Calvert - Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters
Henry Flynt & Nova Billy - Henry Flynt & Nova Billy
Henry Flynt - Graduation and other new country music
Nicholas & Gallivan with Larry Young - Love Cry Want
not rock, but you're letting'em through, so i will...
Taj Mahal Travellers - Live Stockholm July, 1971
Taj Mahal Travellers - July 15, 1972
and I will persist with:
Cecil Taylor Unit - Dark To Themselves (1976)
Cecil Taylor - Nuits De La Fondation Maeght Vols 1,2, & 3 (1971)
way more "rock" than all that joss stick bubblebath popol vuh / tangerine dream.
why you gotta go veto? they blaze !
Weidorje - "W"/ eponymous
Organisation - Tone Float
Ralf, Florian & friends under a different name before kraftwerk 1 - flutes, bongos, & instrumentals that sound like they should've come offa "locust abortion technician"
Gary Numan - The Pleasure Principle
Miles Davis - Live Evil
good call on the notekillers' comp - that burns!

goddam do I love those drums on those early Numan albums

Chelsea - Chelsea

Angelic Upstarts - Teenage Warning

V/A - The Rocky Horror Picture Show (Original Soundtrack)

The B52s - "Play Loud" / eponymous
it rocks harder than Rush's "Hemispheres"!

as far as im concerned that just means hemispheres should be vetoed! no rocky horror. Someone can do a musicals poll anothertime.
Sorry but balls vetoed jazz. Those Miles are allowed so it has to be as rocking as that those or mahavishnu.

As for numan we're allowing the 1st Tubeway Army album but thats it.

Hellhouse would you like to do the spotify for albums?

the cecils rock way harder than the miles /mahavishnu selections,
but they don't go 12341234123412341234123412341234, so if you mean rock in a "rockin' all over the world" no-nonsense boogie-woogie kinda way with rick parfitt & francis rossi lining up to do matching guitar to & fro moves, then no.
but if you mean semi composed semi abstract egyptologist bartokian free blasting which erupts white hot full-on for ever with no radio-friendly concessions or schmoove jan hammer interludes (a la mahavishnu) then yes.
and yes cecil taylor is a pianist.
like esquerita, like little richard, like jerry lee.
if it was a poll for a different decade i'm sure brötzmann's "machine gun" or the blue humans would get in.
i am, after all, the only person who's going to vote for these discs, so what could it possibly matter to let them in?

Id love to let them in but balls is standing firm as is sund4r. Convince them by your arguments to allow it!

I think balls view was I ran a jazz poll last year so jazz doesn't really need its 15 mins in this poll.

unlike the 80s poll that was all mine,I don't have the final say really. (except for stuff like funk ). But balls was the one who asked for a 70s poll before a 90s poll so we need to go with what he was wanting.

hey-ho.
REALLY don't understand how a bunch of excellent and strange music that does not rock gets a free pass though.
it's a bit like "70's hard & heavy poll it's gotta ROCK ! (unless it's leftfield electronics / acousmatic or quirky "outsider" singer songwriter stuff which is bafflingly exempt)"
as is your wont, good sir.
if i could really be arsed i'd start my own poll !

the singer songwriter stuff isn't allowed afaik

please retract my Taj Mahal Travellers nomination

no

Would be cool if someone could nom the best albums by some other Japanese bands like Far East Family Band and Speed Glue & Shinki etc, cos I don't really that stuff all that well.

Birth Control - Operation

Dan Graham & The Static - At Riverside Studios London, 2/24/79
DNA - DNA on DNA
Essential Logic - Beat Rhythm News - Waddle Ya Play?
Kleenex - Liliput
Robert Rental & The Normal - Live at West Runton Pavilion, 6/3/79
Teenage Jesus and the Jerks - Beirut Slump: Shut Up and Bleed
Theoretical Girls - Theoretical Record

Rush - Fly By Night
Rush - Caress of Steel

I mean let's keep it real

the 2 votes per artist rule is gonna be a lifesaver

that's a dumb rule imo

you're right. We will make it you can only vote for 1 Rush album.

my entire ballot is going to be Led Zepplin, Rush and Pink Floyd

there will be a minimum of 20 votes max 100

oh man, i wish i had time to follow this thread. someone make me a list of shit i need to check out.

If we do a "maximum n votes per artist" rule (not my call whether we do or not), the way it will work is that the top n votes for a given artist will be counted and all other votes for that artist will disappear.

hahaha I like that idea

the way it will work is that the top n votes for a given artist will be counted and all other votes for that artist will disappear.

...on each ballot or for the overall poll result?

No it will be quite simply voters will be trusted to follow the rules and if they dont they will be asked to redo the ballot or it wont be counted at all.

AG I'm not up for that, too much hassle emailing voters etc. Also people make mistakes on their ballots all the time (duplicate votes etc), doesn't seem fair to reject a misformatted ballot completely

the way it will work is that the top n votes for a given artist will be counted and all other votes for that artist will disappear.

...on each ballot or for the overall poll result?

If we do it this way, it will be per ballot. If you vote for an artist one time too many on a 100-vote ballot, it will be as if your ballot only has 99 items.

SBB - Slovenian Girls

Alice Cooper - Welcome to my Nightmare

the 2 votes per artist rule is gonna be a lifesaver

And in a final twist .... we think that there should be a 3 album vote limit for a band/artist so to avoid top 10s with the same bands in it like with Sonic Youth in the 80s poll. Do you agree with that or want no limits?

???

here's a protip; if the ppl voting don't want the entire top ten to be flooded with albums from the same band, they won't vote for 6 albums by the same band

at this point, you are less having a poll and more making a list of weighted recommendations with arbitrary criteria placed on what people can recommend

(not that it really matters to me; based on the criteria put forward so far and the subject matter, the likelihood of me being able to put together a ballot for this that would be accepted anyway is about nil)

Franz Kafka - The Castle

K.I.S.S. - Keep it short and simple
remeber we is stupids

The Raincoats - s/t

It is a pity bands like Delta 5 and Young Marble Giants who were active in the late '70s never got their albums out to the turn of the decade.

There's a lot of bands like that unfortunately.

So AG, are you telling me I can't make my top 5 all Black Sabbath albums?

http://canopycanopycanopy.com/podcasts/23-time-is-endless
I keep wanting the nominate the Roy Last Group!!

oop ignore that

I opined about the 3 album limit on the closed noms thread

And in a final twist .... we think that there should be a 3 album vote limit for a band/artist so to avoid top 10s with the same bands in it like with Sonic Youth in the 80s poll. Do you agree with that or want no limits?

think this is a good idea in theory but in practice makes ballot-making even more difficult, plus the vote-tallier does what with violaters? maybe better for you to suggest this as a guideline for voters so the results aren't littered with 1 or 2 bands.

― space dokken (Edward III), Monday, October 8, 2012 1:34 AM (3 days ago)

violators would have votes for artists beyond top n ignored or vacated. agree that 2 is too restrictive, think 3 is a perfect number, esp since there are probably multiple artists that would be likely to get 3 votes (but only one deserving of having more than 3 on a ballot)(sabbath duh). also fuck you dudes for hanging out on this thread and ignoring the tracks poll wtf.

ok 3 it is then

Would be cool if someone could nom the best albums by some other Japanese bands like Far East Family Band and Speed Glue & Shinki etc, cos I don't really that stuff all that well.

That People Ceremony Buddah Meet Rock or whatever the hell it's called is great. I'm scared of this poll and all its rules though. Also Magical Power Mako but he probably doesn't rock enough.

yeah also worst case scenario a sabbath logjam at the top doesn't leave nearly as bad a taste as a sonic youth logjam did.

Also I would nominate Modulo 1000 but it seems like anything that hasn't been nommed already probably won't get any votes anyway so what's the point.

just nominate then campaign for albums. Campaigning really works.

magical power mako probably don't rawk enough but i could see letting it in, could definitely imagine some dudes listening to it and thinking it was pretty heavy. also will remind ppl that if there's something ag vetoes here cherry pick the most shredding cut or whatever and think about mentioning it on tracks thread, i've been fairly liberal esp w/ more obscure artists.

yes i think more obscure stuff we will be more liberal with but balls did say he doesn't want the poll to be all cool record collector lists that his mates could come up with. So get the balance right.

I can't figure out how to add stuff to that spreadsheet but I would probably nominate
Modulo 1000 - Não Fale Com Paredes
The Move - Looking On and Message From the Country
Sand - Golem

You dont add to the sheet. you nominate albums in this style

Modulo 1000 - Não Fale Com Paredes
The Move - Looking On and Message From the Country
Sand - Golem

ah sorry! I'm dumb

violators would have votes for artists beyond top n ignored or vacated. agree that 2 is too restrictive, think 3 is a perfect number, esp since there are probably multiple artists that would be likely to get 3 votes (but only one deserving of having more than 3 on a ballot)(sabbath duh). also fuck you dudes for hanging out on this thread and ignoring the tracks poll wtf.

^^^

tr00 70s poll going full Nixon.

idgi

haha

yes i think more obscure stuff we will be more liberal with but balls did say he doesn't want the poll to be all cool record collector lists that his mates could come up with. So get the balance right.

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:14 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Is this just nominations-wise or are we really expected to tailor our ballots to some arbitrary balance of "obscure/not-obscure/cool/not cool"?

noms

the other would be stupid

we do need to discuss things though. It was much easier when I decided alone.... ;)

This is great! I've been offline all week, after friend's wedding was in a cabin in Santa Cruz (am just missing a Saint Vitus/Weedeater show there dangit). When I was at Amoeba looking for a few albums from the 80s poll, I found some reissues of Japanese proto-metal, Flower Travellin' Band (Anywhere) and Blues Creation (Demon & Eleven Children & Carmen Maki), so nice timing.

Sweet – Sweet Fanny Adams
Atomic Rooster – Death Walks Behind You
Guru Guru – Känguru
Funkadelic – Funkadelic
Heavy Metal Kids – Heavy Metal Kids
Heavy Metal Kids – Anvil Chorus
Cockney Rebel – Psychomodo
November – En Ny Tid är Här
November – 2:a
Pink Fairies – Neverneverland
Thin Lizzy – Fighting
Thin Lizzy - Night Life
UFO – Phenomenon
Wishbone Ash – Wishbone Four
Wishbone Ash – Pilgrimage
Cockney Rebel – The Human Menagerie
Free – Fire And Water
Free – Heartbreaker
Jerusalem – Jerusalem
Budgie – Budgie
Alice Cooper – Billion Dollar Babies
Buffalo – Dead Forever?
Hard Stuff – Bulletproof
The Visitors – The Visitors
Dictators – Bloodbrothers
Bizarros/Rubber City Rebels – From Akron
John Cale – Fear
Deaf School – Don't Stop The World
Eddie & The Hot Rods – Life On The Line
Procol Harum – Broken Barricades
Michael Rother – Sterntaler
Hollywood Brats - Hollywood Brats
Heldon – Interface
Crack The Sky – Crack The Sky
Blackwater Park – Dirt Box
Magma – Mekanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh
Phil Manzanera – Diamond Head
McDonald And Giles – McDonald And Giles
Caravan – In The Land Of The Grey & Pink
National Health – National Health
Family – A Song For Me
Focus – Focus III
Gong – The Flying Teapot, Radio Gnome Invisible Pt. 1

Sweet – Sweet Fanny Adams
Atomic Rooster – Death Walks Behind You
Guru Guru – Känguru
Funkadelic – Funkadelic
Heavy Metal Kids – Heavy Metal Kids
Heavy Metal Kids – Anvil Chorus
Cockney Rebel – Psychomodo
November – En Ny Tid är Här
November – 2:a
Pink Fairies – Neverneverland
Thin Lizzy – Fighting
Thin Lizzy - Night Life
UFO – Phenomenon
Wishbone Ash – Wishbone Four
Wishbone Ash – Pilgrimage
Cockney Rebel – The Human Menagerie
Free – Fire And Water
Free – Heartbreaker
Jerusalem – Jerusalem
Budgie – Budgie
Alice Cooper – Billion Dollar Babies
Buffalo – Dead Forever?
Hard Stuff – Bulletproof
The Visitors – The Visitors
Dictators – Bloodbrothers
Bizarros/Rubber City Rebels – From Akron
John Cale – Fear
Deaf School – Don't Stop The World
Eddie & The Hot Rods – Life On The Line
Procol Harum – Broken Barricades
Michael Rother – Sterntaler
Hollywood Brats - Hollywood Brats
Heldon – Interface
Crack The Sky – Crack The Sky
Blackwater Park – Dirt Box
Magma – Mekanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh
Phil Manzanera – Diamond Head
McDonald And Giles – McDonald And Giles
Caravan – In The Land Of The Grey & Pink
National Health – National Health
Family – A Song For Me
Focus – Focus III
Gong – The Flying Teapot, Radio Gnome Invisible Pt. 1

Just bolding it up for you fastnbulbous!

the funkadelic is 69 iirc

oh and ftr not allowing one nation era stuff either. But certain tracks do fit in the tracks poll ("who says a funk band cant play rock")

a lot of live albums yet to be nominated--

Scorpions- Tokyo Tapes
Judas Priest- Unleashed In The East
KISS- Alive
Cheap Trick- Live At Budokan
UFO- Strangers In The Night

definitely want more stuff like guru guru,ash ra tempel etc. Could nominate it myself to the sheet but i think others nomming it all here encourages others. Then at the end i can add stuff thats been missed out.

Xhol - Motherfuckers GMBH & Co KG

yes!

Wigwam - Being

Bizarre Finnish SWP prog rock with lyrics like "Working men in all countries let us unite in vengeance for the time has come to
annihilate the bourgeoisie and suck the rest up now is the time"

yeah theyre good

I'm gonna campaign to try get flower travellin' band or funkadelic #1. In all the polls I've ran my #1s have never finished top.

if you guys have never heard Satori go get it NOW

Funkadelic's first is indeed 1970. I didn't officially nominate Flower Travellin' Band's Anywhere cuz it's more formative, mostly covers, including a fun one of Black Sabbath, and of course the naked motorcycle ridin' cover art, but yeah, Satori is the one.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WdV28slTW00/SqV_C-VE5ZI/AAAAAAAAACc/uXcOZIkUNs4/s400/303b12ca517022b6882a3fara5.jpg

Satori is so good!!

Speed, Glue & Shinki - S/T

Jane - Together

Have been thinking about putting Satori at #1 just because it rocks so hard.

yeah, I expect Satori to be the only japanese album to place high. Although I kind of prefer Made in Japan.

The Kuni Kawachi & FTB album is pretty cool too.

Robert Fripp - Exposure

Kraan - Kraan
McChurch Soundroom - Delusion
Gila - Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
Gila - Gila / Free Electric Sound
Niagara - S.U.B.
Os Mundi - 43 Minuten
Dom - Edge of Time
Message - From Books and Dreams
Alcatraz - Vampire State Building
Streetmark - Dreams
Debris - Static Disposal
Gomorrha - I Turned to See Whose Voice It Was
Karat - Albatros

Not so sure about Dom. I guess if it fits the 'weird' category. But definitely not hard n' heavy.

it seems like Taj Mahal Travellers open the door for a lot of "weird" stuff

kraut,arty,prog will still count but it has to rock

Is everyone going to vote just based on the list of nominees or based on their own interpretation of "hard, heavy, loud, kraut, arty, noisy, weird, funky, punky"? Because that definitely conjures up something specific in my head and my list of those albums would be very different than my list of just the best albums of the '70s.

yeah, maybe Dom isn't rock enough...

Speed, Glue & Shinki - Eve
J A Caesar - Kokkyou Junreika

That Satori is mind blowing shit!

over the summer I was listening to satori in the car and my 8yo daughter started echoing the riffs on a kazoo, it was pretty awesome

sun shiiines ev'ry daaaay
kazoo kazoo kazooo kazooooo

Debris' - Static Disposal

I thought this was worth a mention they sound like they potentially could have been a great sort of protopunk/psyche band but just never quite got their act together. Some great songs on here and some irritating nausea inducing bufoonery as well.

ha, that is the third time that album has been nominated itt iirc

Ooops didn't notice and it isn't on the spreadsheet.

no-one else bothered with the apostrophe, try it without that

Actually I am wrong it is!

People - Ceremony ~ Buddha Meets Rock

Anyone doing a spotify playlist? Hellhouse?

Is everyone going to vote just based on the list of nominees or based on their own interpretation of "hard, heavy, loud, kraut, arty, noisy, weird, funky, punky"? Because that definitely conjures up something specific in my head and my list of those albums would be very different than my list of just the best albums of the '70s.

Definitely the latter.

Thomas Bernhard - Correction

yeah, I expect Satori to be the only japanese album to place high. Although I kind of prefer Made in Japan.

― wk, Thursday, October 11, 2012 7:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

man I hope 77 Live places really high too

Henri Texier - Varech - most rocking cello ever recorded.

The 70s did see a vast change musically over it's course.
Amongst others there was (of interest to this poll)
the rise and fall of prog
the rise of punk and post punk
the rise and fall of funk because of the more commercial disco with some amazing funk bands deemed to be 'selling out' to disco.
rise of heavy metal
fusion

the 90s and 00s haven't had the changes that the 60s 70s and 80s had, have they? A lot of music now still feels like its the mid to late 90s.

plus a lot of those genres seemed to be up against each other. classic rock dj's burning disco records. Just wouldn't happen now. Most people (over 21) these days wouldn't just listen to one genre I dont think

late to the party on this thread, but thought I'd reiterate that I'm glad yr doing it this way, AG, instead of a general 70s poll.

T. Rex - The Slider

The Soft Machine - Third

I was gonna ask if anybody would rep for any unsung T. rex albs

also I know this is lolcanon but this year's remaster of ziggy stardust sounds great. never really liked any of the CD masters (and yeah I've heard the ryko ones), this one's on par with the floyd remasters.

I used to listen The Slider when I was 10 years old and arseing about with my mum's record collection on a really poor arse council estate record player. I just can't listen to it now it depresses me. It is on a list of albums I can't listen to including The Eagles Greatest Hits and Dark Side Of The Moon oh yeah and The Strawbs!
I had a moment today listening to Satori and have decided it is one of the best albums I have heard from the 70's. When it comes to the ballot it is going no.2 to Ege Bamyasi.

There is no up or down ...

Magazine - Real Life
Magazine - Secondhand Daylight
John Cale & Terry Riley - Church of Anthrax

Zinc Alloy is my favorite T. Rex album, and it's fairly unsung imo. I think it's one of the pinnacles of glammed-out excess along with albums like A Wizard A True Star or Raw Power — kind of harsh and trebly, over-the-top and insane.

Oh yeah!

Todd Rundgren - A Wizard, A True Star

Yeah, I'm really confused about how to vote on this. Hard/heavy/arty/noisy/weird/70s makes me think of stuff like Suicide, Chrome, Amon Duul II, Pere Ubu, Pop Group, etc. Best rock albums of the '70s makes me think of Rundgren, T. Rex, Sparks, etc. Although they're all a bit hard, weird and arty, they somehow don't seem to fit what the thread title conjured up in my mind. But maybe I'm totally misreading the intention or overthinking this. I guess the thread title is meant to be inclusive of all of those characteristics, not a checklist of positive qualities that the album is supposed to contain? Either way I guess I'm just going to pretend that we're voting for the albums that are simultaneously the hardest, weirdest, and artiest because that seems more fun and otherwise my ballot would just look like some Mojo list.

I guess the thread title is meant to be inclusive of all of those characteristics

This is how I read it. I don't think the albums need to simultaneously contain all of those qualities. I'm just going to pick the albums I like most from the nominations list. A Wizard, a True Star is pretty damn weird, though!

Yeah, it is. I'm revisiting the old '70s album poll thread and I can't believe AWATS didn't place. I wish I could find my ballot. Also can't believe that was 7 years ago.

There's definitely an intended aesthetic behind the poll that is a lot more focused/restricted than just "rock" (a label that something like 80% of the open 70s poll would have qualified for). That said, it's up to you how far you want to stray from your tastes in getting on board with AG's personal philosophy of life.

Marc Bolan was just as weird as anyone!

I know it's my pet peeve and I'm not calling anyone out but just the thought of why T. Rex might not be something to include is another case of identity distinctions being determinant. Like I guess T. Rex might not be included because Bolan was too feminine.

T. Rex is included.

:)

Like I guess T. Rex might not be included because Bolan was too feminine.

Nah, that's not it at all. Bands like T. Rex, Queen and Sparks were in my '70s album poll ballot. It's just that they're all pretty canonical and this poll seems to be attempting to be somewhat anti-canon. And none of them are really that hard, heavy and loud compared to most of the other nominees.

Critics hated Queen almost as much as they hated Rush, though, right?

Anyone care to discuss what was said here 1970-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll! Nominations ! (ends Oct 15) ?

since balls decided he wouldnt have the same end date for nominations then this thread will be extended to the 17th

I was re-listening to Satori and it is magnificent. I hadn't gotten around to finishing Julian Cope's Japrocksampler, but I read the chapter on Flower Travellin' Band. He wrote this about Satori:

Satori was for ever to remain Flower's most singular and demented work, coming over like some super-fit combination of Led Zeppelin's 'The Immigrant Song' and the Yardbirds' 'Happenings Ten Years Time Ago' as played by a non-blues guitarist such as Michael Schenker, or perhaps Uli John Roth's power trio Electric Sun. However, even these descriptions cannot come close to doing justice to Hideki Ishima's extraordinarily inflammatory playing on Satori, and although the past decade and a half (1990-2006) has brought so-called heavy metal to entirely new heights, the succinctness of Satori's arrangements and its economy of playing are still somewhat depressingly unique.

Interestingly, Speed, Glue & Shinki - Eve (Atlantic, 1971) is tied with Satori as Cope's favorite Japanese rock album. I'd been listening to their self-titled double album from 1972 for the past year and not quite getting into it. First impression is that Satori towers over Eve, but they are quite different, with Eve more chaotically diverse, shambolic, bluesy. It's definitely worth hearing, as is Flower Travellin' Band's third album, Made In Japan (1972, actually recorded in Canada).

Also in Cope's top 10(almost all have been reissued on Phoenix records and are available at Aquarius Records):

Far East Family Band - Parallel World (Columbia/Phoenix, 1976)
J.A. Caesar - Kokkyou Junreika (Victor/Phoenix, 1973)
Love Live Life +1 - Love Will Make A Better You (King, 1971)
Masahiko Satoh & Soundbreakers - Amalgamation (Liberty/Phoenix, 1971)
Geino Yamashirogumi - Osorezan (Invitation, 1976)
Takehisa Kosugi - Catch-Wave (CBS/Sony, 1975)
J.A. Caesar - Jasumon (Victor/Phoenix, 1972)

think they're all on spotify and emusic too.

love the cover of 'black sabbath' on the first flower travellin' band album

the people record i nommed is another good japanese thing, kind of makes me think of brainticket presiding over proceedings in a buddhist temple

need to go back and relisten to the brast burn and karuna khyal albums which are more at the fausty, beefheartish end of the spectrum iirc

btw that masahiko satoh record is fucking crazy, my abiding memory of it is that it's like a jazz band and a freak-out rock band playing simulaneously on two different channels, kind of bizarre but also very awesome

I'd been listening to their self-titled double album from 1972 for the past year and not quite getting into it. First impression is that Satori towers over Eve, but they are quite different

Yeah, I never quite got the Speed, Glue & Shinki love. Or Tokyo Kid Brothers. I don't get why he likes that stuff but then pans Food Brain which is great.

I was really into Satori a few years ago. This poll is an excuse to break it out again.

Ornette Coleman - Dancing In Your Head

I wasn't sure if this would count but it's a riff-based free funk record with two electric guitarists. Plus James 'Blood' Ulmer is already included.

Cabaret Voltaire - Extended Play
SPK - Factory
SPK - Mekano
SPK - No More
Throbbing Gristle - D.O.A. - The Third and Final Report

iirc Dancing in your Head came up before and was vetoed, though I couldn't tell you which incarnation of the thread that was on.

All this adoration for Satori and I've never heard of it before. I'll look out for it.

Jeff Beck - Blow By Blow

Urinals - EP
Urinals - Another

MU - s/t
Babe Ruth - First Base
Las Grecas - Gipsy Rock

Wow, Amon Duul II's Yeti is sounding pretty great.

"Also in Cope's top 10(almost all have been reissued on Phoenix records and are available at Aquarius Records)"

PHOENIX IS THE ENEMY DON'T BUY THEIR SHIT. SAME WITH RADIOACTIVE AND FALLOUT. BAD BAD PEOPLE. just download them for free. same result. bands don't get paid a dime but at least you aren't giving money to BAD BAD PEOPLE.

you've never heard Yeti, Sund4r?!!! That album is fucken dope.

I second that! This poll led me to discover Agitation Free's Malesch, which I'd always meant to check out. GREAT stuff.

Peter Green - The End of the Game
Os Mutantes - A Divina Comedia ou Ando Meio Desligado
Can - Soundtracks
Paul Kantner/Jefferson Starship - Blows Against the Empire
James Gang - Rides Again

I didn't know Phoenix records operated similar to Radioactive and Fallout.

How do those labels operate?

Ha, until now, I'd assumed the vocals on "Archangels Thunderbird" were by a dude singing in Plant/Lee register.

Frijid Pink - s/t

From everything I have read and heard about both Radioactive and Fallout records amounts to their reissues being illegal boots.
http://www.nothingexceptional.com/records/radioactive.html

Urinals - Negative Capability...Check It Out!
Vertical Slit - Under the Blood Red Lava Lamp

"From everything I have read and heard about both Radioactive and Fallout records amounts to their reissues being illegal boots."

phonix = radioactive/fallout. same guy. same guy who has been asked repeatedly over the years to stop putting out bootlegs by the artists who own the recordings and who doesn't stop knowing full well that these artists do not have the money to start transatlantic lawsuits. the same guy who never puts out bootlegs by u.k. artists because he's smart enough to know that those artists could actually sue him. same guy who has WORLDWIDE distribution through reputable wholesalers like aquarius and forced exposure and many more and who sells THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of unlicensed recordings and people keep selling them because they either 1) don't care where they come from 2) figure they are legit because they get them from reputable distributors 3) are just really happy to be able to get cheap reissues of hard to find albums because its all about the music, man.

like, if you want silver apples on vinyl buy the scorpio reissues which are legit and fully licensed and not the phoenix versions which are completely illegal. okay? i understand that people want to own flower travellin' band records, but this guy has done really shitty stuff to people who have no money whatsoever. george brigman and bobb trimble to name two.

erebus is another one of his labels. don't buy those either.

Ha, until now, I'd assumed the vocals on "Archangels Thunderbird" were by a dude singing in Plant/Lee register.

Such a great song. There's a nice description of the vocal recording in this old Wire feature. It seems like there was some tension around having Renate do the singing: http://www.thewire.co.uk/articles/60/?pageno=4

There are two more reasons why Yeti is an important Krautrock icon. Firstly, it features the group's most popular song, "Archangels (sic) Thunderbird", which was composed by Renate and based on the tune to a favourite hymn she used to sing in her local church choir.

"They recorded the music track in the studio and I had to record the vocal on top. I went into my room with the Revox and for two days I rehearsed. When I was ready I went into the studio and sang it once and everybody went, Wow! This was the way I had to do it. This was always a man's band and if any of them could have sung properly they would never have chosen me, a girl, to be their vocalist."

Chris listens to this with a bowed head, but then he looks up and says, "I'm a big fan of Renate; she's more creative than even she thinks. She knows how to write a melody in her head, and that's composing."

love yeti but the version of "archangels thunderbird" on live in london slays

Skull Snaps - Skull Snaps
Cymande - Cymande
The Lafayette Afro Rock Band - Soul Makossa
Harlem River Drive Harlem River Drive
The Undisputed Truth - S/T
The Jimmy Castor Bunch - It's Just Begun
The Temptations - Psychedelic Shack
Dennis Coffey And The Detroit Guitar Band ‎– Electric Coffey
Parliament - Funkentelechy Vs. the Placebo Syndrome
Betty Davis - Nasty Girl
Ofege - Ofege
Witch - Introduction
Tirogo - Float

Side A of Yeti one of the most gloriously heavy-catchy things ever done.

Satori, even heavier.

Any decade that includes Yeti, Satori, Master Of Reality, Red is a decade we were lucky to get out of alive.

Just a couple of corrections for your spreadsheet:

The Laser Pace record is on there twice

Love - Four Sail came out in '69

Thomas Bernhard - Correction <-- awesome, but not a record

what is Magma 2?

Albums by Crime, Essential Logic, Os Mundi, Pere Ubu, Queen (s/t and II) and Randy Holden are also on there twice

"Captain Beefheart and hhis Magic Band" should be "& The Magic Band"

Thirteenth Floor Elevators - Easter Everywhere is like 1967 or something

Magma 2: Electric Uduwudu

xp I did some digging and I've seen similar things said about the Phoenix label on discussion boards, but I can't find anything concrete about bands complaining that they're not getting paid. If he's truly ripping off all dozen+ of the Japanese artists reissued by the label, you'd think someone would make a legal move. It's not like Japan doesn't have lawyers. The few I have say they're remastered, and sound good. Did they lie about having access to master tapes? Given how Phoenix has focused on Japanrocksampler, I'd think Julian Cope would have something to say about it too. I just removed all the Phoenix CDs from my importcds cart until I learn more.

lmao NickB

2 of the 4 Phoenix CDs I bought wouldn't play on any player I tried them on, that's how much care and attention this guy puts into it. Same guy as Radioactive for sure.

I wasn't going to allow post-osmium parliament or latter period funkadelic but fuck it.

figured I'd provide some context for some of my oddball noms

Gaseneta - Sooner or Later: an early entry in japanese noise rock berserkitude circa 1978, they were a big influence on high rise. sounds like a flying nun band got pumped full of amphetamines and shot out of a cannon. entire thing's on youtube.

The Hand of Doom - Poisonoise: fans of NWOBHM should check out this obscure german band, meat and potatoes stuff but a real consistent listen, youtube's yer best bet again.

The Pirates - Out of Their Skulls: in 1976, the pirates reformed as a 3 piece with mick green's insane telecaster abuse front and center. they were one of the few pub rock bands who got traction with punk rockers. look up the live version of "lonesome train" on youtube to check out green's blaring sweat-drenched solos.

Gift - Gift: another german band, this one from 1972. acid fried riff rock.

John Lee Hooker - Endless Boogie: hooker's psychedelic-tinged double album, a much better white-guys-jamming-with-hooker record than hooker n heat imo

Notekillers - Notekillers 1977-1981: philadelphia band doing skronky math rock instrumentals way before anybody else did.

Os Mutantes - Cavaleiros Negros: this is late 70s, '76 I think? a hard rock EP, closer to deep purple than their late 60s acid folk whatsis.

Mirrors - Something That Would Never Do: ppl usually reach for electric eels or rocket from the tombs for their cle-punk fix, but this garage velvets combo got off some good shots in the mid 70s.

Trust - L'elite: french band tiptoe the hard rock/metal line on their '79 debut. buddies with AC/DC, opening track "prefabriques" appeared on the heavy metal soundtrack in '81 and was sampled by the young gods for "envoye!", how can you deny this pedigree?

updated spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AumbddEHET5xdEZaQ0paMUZpNEdGeUdRSGRTY3BfV2c#gid=0

Edward, those all sound amazing... I SO need to hear Satori!

also AG Zep I is 69

EVERYONE NEEDS TO HEAR SATORI

Thomas Bernhard - Correction <-- awesome, but not a record
yeh but it has gnarly fuzz guitar and a cone shaped house in the woods

got it, G

if a friendly mod is reading could they change the title to the 17th please?
we cant rollout the voting form at different times so with balls choosing the 17th for his we need to change it too.

I just revisited Satori and Made in Japan, and I don't know what I was thinking saying I like MiJ better. Satori is clearly the greater album. But that run of Kamakaze/Hiroshima/Spasms is so great.

thx K :)

I also like the drums on
Franz Kafka's "the castle"
(it didn't really need putting in the spreadsheet, did it?)

"magma 2" is the same album as "1001°C"
so that would need re-instating.

Emerson, Lake & Palmer – Trilogy is a new nom
Weidorje - "W" / eponymous has either been forgotten or vetoed (no reason – Bernard Paganotti’s zeuhl/magma spinoff rocked pretty straightforwardly, this is from 1978)

Oh and k.i.s.s. – “keep it short and simple” might have been a comment in the style of a nomination in response to the proposed voting system which seemed to be getting increasingly Byzantine.

Why did you have to be a dick and nominate things that don't exist?

There's tons of stuff being nominated nobody has heard of and now we might have to remove it all unless its proved these albums exist. It's enough hassle running these things without this bullshit.

Is there anything else in here fake or not from 1979 or does not fit the parameters?
999 - 999
999 - High Energy Plan
999 - Separates
A Certain Ratio - The Graveyard And The Ballroom
AC / DC - Highway To Hell
AC/DC - Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
AC/DC - Jailbreak '74
AC/DC - Powerage
AC/DC - T.N.T.
Ace Frehley - Ace Frehley
Aerosmith - Rocks
Aerosmith - Toys in the Attic
Agitation Free - Malesch
Alcatraz - Vampire State Building
Alex Oriental Experience - Alex
Alice Cooper – Billion Dollar Babies
Alice Cooper - Killer
Alice Cooper - Love It to Death
Alice Cooper - Welcome to my Nightmare
Allman Brothers - Fillmore East
Alphataurus - Alphataurus
Alternative TV - The Image Has Cracked
Ame Son - Catalyse
Amon Duul II - Live in London
Amon Duul II - Tanz der Lemminge
Amon Duul II - Wolf City
Amon Duul II - Yeti
Angelic Upstarts - Teenage Warning
Annexus Quam - Osmose
Aphrodite's Child - 666
Armageddon - Armageddon
Armand Schaubroeck - Ratfucker
Arthur Lee - Vindicator
Ash Ra Tempel - Ash Ra Tempel
Ash Ra Tempel - Join Inn
Atomic Rooster – Death Walks Behind You
Attila - Attila
Babe Ruth - First Base
Baby Huey & The Babysitters- The Baby Huey Story
Bad Brains - Black Dots
Bad Company - Bad Company
Banchee - Thinkin'
Bang - Bang
Bang - Mother/Bow To The King
Barış Manço - 2023
Barış Manço - 2023
Barrabas - Wild Safari
Betty Davis - Betty Davis
Betty Davis - Nasty Girl
Big Star - #1 Record
Big Star - Radio City
Birth Control - Operation
Bizarros/Rubber City Rebels – From Akron
Black Flag-Nervous Breakdown
Black Merda - Black Merda
Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
Black Sabbath - Master of Reality
Black Sabbath - Never Say Die!
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Black Sabbath - Sabotage
Black Sabbath - Vol. 4
Black Widow - Sacrifice
Blackwater Park – Dirt Box
Blue Mountain Eagle - Blue Mountain Eagle
Blue Öyster Cult - Agents of Fortune
blue oyster cult - on your feet or on your knees
Blue Öyster Cult - s/t
Blue Öyster Cult - Secret Treaties
blue oyster cult - spectres
Blue Öyster Cult - Tyranny and Mutation
Blue Phantom - Distortions
Blues Creation - Demon & Eleven Children
Bob Seger System - Mongrel
Bolder Damn - Mourning
Bootsy's Rubber Band - Ahh...The Name is Bootsy, Baby!
Boston - s/t
Brainticket - Cottonwoodhill
Brass Construction - Brass Construction
Brian Eno - Here Come the Warm Jets
Buddy Miles Express - Them Changes
Budgie - Bandolier
Budgie – Budgie
Budgie - In For The Kill
Budgie - Never Turn Your Back On A Friend
Buffalo – Dead Forever?
Buffalo- Volcanic Rock
Bull - This Is Bull
Buzzcocks - Another Music In A Different Kitchen
Buzzcocks - Spiral Scratch
Cabaret Voltaire - Extended Play
Cabaret Voltaire ‎– Mix-Up
Cameo - Cardiac Arrest
Cameo - Cardiac Arrest
Can - Ege Bamyasi
Can - Future Days
Can - Soon Over Babaluma
Can - Soundtracks
Can - Tago Mago
Canned Heat - Future Blues
Canned Heat/John Lee Hooker - Hooker 'n Heat
Captain Beefheart & the Magic Band - Clear Spot
Captain Beefheart & the Magic Band - lick my decals off baby
Captain Beyond - Captain Beyond
Caravan – In The Land Of The Grey & Pink
Cheap Trick - Cheap Trick
Cheap Trick - Heaven Tonight
Cheap Trick - In Color
Cheap Trick- Live At Budokan
Chelsea - Chelsea
Chico Magnetic Band - Chico Magnetic Band
Chrome - Alien Soundtracks
Chrome - Half Machine Lip Moves
Circle X - s/t
Cockney Rebel – Psychomodo
Cockney Rebel – The Human Menagerie
Comus - First Utterance
Cosmic Jokers - Cosmic Jokers
Coven - Witchcraft Destroys Minds & Reaps Souls
Crack The Sky – Crack The Sky
Cramps - Gravest Hits
Crass - The Feeding of the 5000
Creedence Clearwater Revival - Cosmo's Factory
Crime - San Francisco's Doomed
Crushed Butler - Uncrushed
Curtis Mayfield - Superfly
Cymande - Cymande
DAF - Ein Produkt der Deutsch-Amerikanischen Freundschaft
Dan Graham & The Static - At Riverside Studios London, 2/24/79
Dark - Round The Edges
David Bowie - Aladdin Sane
David Bowie - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars
David Johansen - David Johansen
Dead Boys - We Have Come For Your Children
Dead Boys - Young, Loud, and Snotty
Deaf School – Don't Stop The World
Death - ...For the Whole World to See
Debris - Static Disposal
Deep Purple - In Rock
Deep Purple - Machine Head
Deep Purple - Made in Japan
Demian - Demian
Dennis Coffey And The Detroit Guitar Band ‎– Electric Coffey
Derek and the Dominos - Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs
Desperate Bicycles - New Cross, New Cross
Destroy All Monsters - Bored
Devo - Hardcore Vols 1 and 2
Devo - Q: Are we not men ? A: We Are Devo
Dickies - The Incredible Shrinking Dickies
Dictators – Bloodbrothers
DMZ - s/t
DNA - DNA on DNA
Dom - Edge of Time
Donnie and Joe Emerson - Dreamin' Wild
Dr. Feelgood - Down By The Jetty
Dr. Feelgood - Stupidity
Dust - Dust
Dust - Hard Attack
East Of Eden - East Of Eden
Eddie & The Hot Rods – Life On The Line
Eddie & The Hot Rods - Teenage Depression
Edgar Broughton Band - Sing Brother Sing
Edward H. Dafis - 'Sneb Yn Becso Dam
Electric Sandwich - Electric Sandwich
Embryo - We Keep On
Emerson, Lake & Palmer – Trilogy
Erkin Koray - Elektronik Turkuler
Esperanto - Rock Orchestra
Essential Logic - Beat Rhythm News - Waddle Ya Play?
Faces - A Nod Is As Good As a Wink... to a Blind Horse
Faces - Faces - Long Player
Faces - First Step
Faces - Ooh La La
Family – A Song For Me
Family - Bandstand
Faust - Faust IV
Faust - So Far
Faust - Tapes
Fela Kuti - He Miss Road
Fela Kuti - No Agreement
Fela Kuti - Zombie
Flamin' Groovies - Flamingo
Flamin' Groovies - Teenage Head
Flower Travellin' Band - Satori
Focus – Focus III
Focus - Hamburger Concerto
Focus - Moving Waves
Foghat - Live
Food Brain - Bansan (Social Gathering)
Free – Fire And Water
Free – Heartbreaker
Friend Sound - Joyride
Frijid Pink - s/t
Funkadelic - Cosmic Slop
Funkadelic - Free Your Mind...And Your Ass Will Follow
Funkadelic - Funkadelic
Funkadelic - Lets Take It To The Stage
Funkadelic - Maggot Brain
Funkadelic - Standing On The Verge Of Getting It On
Fusioon - Minorisa
Gang of Four - Entertainment!
Gary Wilson - You Think You Really Know Me
Gaseneta - Sooner or Later
Genesis - Trespass
Genesis - Foxtrot
Genesis - Nursery Cryme
Genesis - Selling England By The Pound
"Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
"
Germs - G.I.
Gift - Gift
Gila - Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
Gila - Gila / Free Electric Sound
Glass Harp - Glass Harp
Glenn Branca - Songs '77-'79
Glenn Phillips - lost at sea
Goblin - Goblin-
Gomorrha - I Turned to See Whose Voice It Was
Gong - Camembert Electrique
Gong – The Flying Teapot, Radio Gnome Invisible Pt. 1
Graham Central Station - Ain't No 'Bout-A-Doubt It
Grand Funk Railroad - Closer to Home
Grand Funk Railroad - Live Album
Granicus- Granicus
Guru Guru - Hinten
Guru Guru – Känguru
Guru Guru - UFO
Hackamore Brick - One Kiss Leads to Another
Hairy Chapter - Can't Get Through
Hard Stuff – Bulletproof
Harlem River Drive Harlem River Drive
Hawklords - 25 Years On
Hawkwind - Doremi Fasol Latido
Hawkwind - Hall of the Mountain Grill
Hawkwind - In Search of Space
Hawkwind - Quark, Strangeness & Charm
Hawkwind - Space Ritual
Hawkwind - Warrior on the Edge of Time
He6 - Go Go Sound '71 Vol 1
He6 - Go Go Sound '71 Vol 2
Heart - Dreamboat Annie
Heartbreakers - L.A.M.F.
Heavy Metal Kids – Anvil Chorus
Heavy Metal Kids – Heavy Metal Kids
Heldon – Interface
Heldon - Stand By
Henri Texier - Varech -
Henry Cow - In Praise Of Learning
Henry Cow - Unrest
Henry Flynt - Graduation and other new country music
Henry Flynt & Nova Billy - Henry Flynt & Nova Billy
High Tide - Sea Shanties
Hollywood Brats - Hollywood Brats
Ian Dury - New Boots and Panties
Ian Hunter - You're Never Alone With A Schizofrenic
Iggy & The Stooges - Raw Power
Iggy Pop - Lust for Life
Iggy Pop - The Idiot
il balletto di bronzo - ys
Illes - Ne Sirjatok Lanyok
Iron Maiden - The Soundhouse Tapes
Isley Brothers - 3+3
Isley Brothers - Go For Your Guns
Isley Brothers - Live It Up
Isley Brothers - Show Down
Isley Brothers - The Heat Is On
J A Caesar - Kokkyou Junreika
james Blood Ulmer - Tales of Captain Black
James Brown - Love Power Peace
James Brown - The Payback
James Chance & The Contortions ‎– Buy
James Gang - Rides Again
Jandek - Ready For The House
Jane - Together
Jasper Wrath - Jasper Wrath
Jayne County & The Electric Chairs - Blatantly Offensive
Jazz Q + Martina Kratochvíla - Elegie
Jean-Claude Vannier - L'enfant assassin des mouches
Jeff Beck - Blow By Blow
Jeff Liberman -Solitude Within
Jefferson Airplane - Volunteers
Jerusalem – Jerusalem
Jethro Tull - Aqualung
Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick
Jim Dickinson - Dixie Fried
Jimi Hendrix - Band Of Gypsys
Jobriath - Creatures Of The Street
Jobriath - Jobriath
John Cale – Fear
John Cale & Terry Riley - Church of Anthrax
John Lee Hooker - Endless Boogie
John McLaughlin - Devotion
Johnny Moped Band - Cycledelic
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
Judas Priest - Hell Bent for Leather
Judas Priest - Rocka Rolla
Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny
Judas Priest - Sin After Sin
Judas Priest - Stained Class
Judas Priest- Unleashed In The East
Junie - Bread alone
Junie - Super Suzie Groupie
Kansas - s/t
Karat - Albatros
Kennelmus - folkstone prism
Kin Ping Meh - s/t
King Crimson - Larks' Tongues in Aspic
King Crimson - Red
King Crimson - Starless and Bible Black
KISS - Destroyer
KISS- Alive
Kleenex - Liliput
Kool And The Gang - Wild & Peaceful
Kraan - Kraan
Kraftwerk - I
Kraftwerk - II
La Dusseldorf - La Dusseldorf
La Dusseldorf - Viva
Larry Coryell - Barefoot Boy
Las Grecas - Gipsy Rock
Laser Pace - Granfaloon
Leaf Hound - Growers of Mushroom
Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin III
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
Led Zeppelin - Presence
Les Rallizes Dénudés - '77 Live
Little Feat - Feats Don't Fail Me Now
Los Dug Dugs - Dug Dugs
Lou Reed - Metal Machine Music
Love - False Start
Love - Reel to Real
Lucifer's Friend- Lucifer's Friend
Lula Côrtes e Zé Ramalho - Paêbirú
Lynyrd Skynyrd - (pronounced 'lĕh-'nérd 'skin-'nérd)
Lynyrd Skynyrd - Second Helping
Magazine - Real Life
Magazine - Secondhand Daylight
Magma - 1001c
Magma - Attahk
Magma - Köhntarkösz
Magma - Mekanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh
Magma - Udu Wudu
Mahavishnu Orchestra - birds of fire
Mahavishnu Orchestra - the inner mounting flame
Man - Back Into The Future
Man - Be Good To Yourself at Least Once A Day
Man - Man
Man - Rhinos, Winos & Lunatics
Man - Slow Motion
Mandrill - Composite Truth
Mandrill - Just Outside Of Town
Mandrill - Mandrill
Mandrill - Mandrill Is
Mars - Mars lp
May Blitz - May Blitz
MC5 - Back in the USA
MC5 - High Time
McChurch Soundroom - Delusion
McDonald And Giles – McDonald And Giles
Message - From Books and Dreams
Metal Urbain - Les hommes morts sont dangereux
Meters - Cabbage Alley
Meters - Fire On The Bayou
Meters - Rejuvenation
Michael Farneti - Good Morning Kisses
Michael Quatro - Dancers, Romancers, Dreamers & Schemers
Michael Rother – Sterntaler
Mike Oldfield - Hergest Ridge
Miles Davis - A Tribute To Jack Johnson
Miles Davis - Agharta
Miles Davis - Big Fun
Miles Davis - Dark Magus
Miles Davis - Get Up With It
Miles Davis - Live Evil
Miles Davis - Pangaea
Mirrors - Something That Would Never Do
Misfits - Static Age
Modulo 1000 - Não Fale Com Paredes
Monitor - Beak
Montrose - Montrose
Motorhead - Bomber
Motorhead - Motorhead
Motorhead - Overkill
Mott the Hoople - The Hoople
Mountain - Climbing!
Mountain - Nantucket Sleighride
MU - s/t
museo rosenbach - zarathustra
Mutiny - Mutiny On The Mamaship
MX-80 Sound - Hard Attack
National Health – National Health
Nazareth - Loud n' Proud
Nazz - Nazz
Negative Trend - s/t
Neil Merryweather - Space Rangers
Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Live Rust
Neu! - Neu! 75
Neu! - s/t
Neu! 2
New York Dolls - New York Dolls
Niagara - S.U.B.
Nicholas & Gallivan with Larry Young - Love Cry Want
Night Sun- Mournin'
Nina Hagen Band - Nina Hagen Band
Notekillers - Notekillers 1977-1981
November – 2:a
November – En Ny Tid är Här
Nurse With Wound - Chance Meeting On A Dissecting Table Of A Sewing Machine And An Umbrella
Ofege - Ofege
Ohio Players - Fire
Ohio Players - Honey
Ohio Players - Pain
Ohio Players - Pleasure
Ohio Players - Skin Tight
Organisation - Tone Float
Os Mundi - 43 Minuten
Os Mutantes - A Divina Comedia ou Ando Meio Desligado
Os Mutantes - Cavaleiros Negros
Os Mutantes - Os Mutantes

osanna - milano calibro 9
osanna - palepoli
Osibisa - Osibisa
Pagans - Buried Alive
Parliament - Chocolate City
Parliament - Clones of Dr. Funkenstein
Parliament - Funkentelechy Vs. the Placebo Syndrome
Parliament - Mothership Connection
Parliament - Osmium
Parliament - Up For The Down Stroke
Patti Smith - Horses
Paul Kantner/Jefferson Starship - Blows Against the Empire
Paul Levinson - Twice Upon A Rhyme
Pavlov's Dog - Pampered Menial
Penetration - Moving Targets
Pentagram - First Daze Here
People - Ceremony ~ Buddha Meets Rock
Pere Ubu - Dub Housing
Pere Ubu - new picnic time
Pere Ubu - Terminal Tower
Pere Ubu - The Modern Dance
Peter Frampton - Frampton Comes Alive!
Peter Green - The End of the Game
Peter Hammill - In Camera
Peter Hammill - Nadir's Big Chance
Peter Hammill – Over
Phil Manzanera – Diamond Head
PIL - Metal Box
PiL - Public Image
Pink Fairies - Kings of Oblivion
Pink Fairies – Neverneverland
Pink Floyd - Animals
Pink Floyd - Obscured by Clouds
Popol Vuh - Coeur de Verre
Procol Harum – Broken Barricades
Queen - News of the World
Queen - Queen
Queen - Queen II
Queen - Sheer Heart Attack
Rabbitt - Boys Will Be Boys
Radio Birdman - Radios Appear
Rainbow - Rising
Ramones - Leave Home
Ramones - Rocket To Russia
Ramones - s/t
Randy Holden - Population II
Red Rhodes - Velvet Hammer In A Cowboy Band
Redbone - Potlatch
Redbone - Redbone
Redbone - The Witch Queen of New Orleans
Residents - Meet the Residents
Richard Hell and the Voidoids - Blank Generation
Rick James - Bustin' Out Of L Seven
Rick James - Come Get It
Rick James - Fire It Up
Robert Calvert - Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters
Robert Fripp - Exposure
Robert Rental & The Normal - Live at West Runton Pavilion, 6/3/79
Rocket From The Tombs - The Day The Earth Met The Rocket From The Tombs
Rolling Stones - Exile On Main St.
Roxy Music - Country Life
Roxy Music - For Your Pleasure
Roxy Music - Roxy Music
Roxy Music - s/t
Roxy Music - Siren
Roxy Music - Stranded
Rufus & Chaka Khan - Rags To Rufus
Rufus & Chaka Khan - Rufusized
Rush - A Farewell to Kings
Rush - Caress of Steel
Rush - Fly By Night
Rush- 2112
Rush- Hemispheres
Salem Mass - Witch Burning
Samson - Survivors
Sand - Golem
SBB - Slovenian Girls
Scorpions - Taken by Force
Scorpions - Virgin Killer
Scorpions- Fly To The Rainbow
Scorpions- In Trance
Scorpions- Lovedrive
Scorpions- Tokyo Tapes
Screamers ‎– In A Better World
Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks
Sham 69 - Tell Us The Truth
Shuggie Otis - Freedom Flight
Shuggie Otis - Inspiration Information
Silverhead - s/t
Simply Saucer - Cyborgs Revisited
Siouxsie & the Banshees - The Scream
Siouxsie and the Banshees - Join Hands
Sir Lord Baltimore - Kingdom Come
Sixty-Nine - Circle Of The Crayfish
Skull Snaps - Skull Snaps
Slade - Slayed?
Slapp Happy - Acnalbasac Noom
Slave - Slave
Slave - The Concept
Sleepers - s/t EP
Song - Song
Sonics - Introducing the Sonics
Sparks - A Woofer In Tweeter's Clothing
Sparks - Kimono My House
Speed, Glue & Shinki - Eve
Speed, Glue & Shinki - S/T
Spirit - 12 Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus
SPK - Factory
SPK - Mekano
SPK - No More
Stiff Little Fingers - Inflammable Material
Stray- Stray
Streetmark - Dreams
Styx - Pieces of Eight
Styx - The Grand Illusion
Suicide - Suicide
Sweet - Desolation Boulevard
Sweet – Sweet Fanny Adams
Swell Maps - A Trip To Marineville
Syrius - Devil's Masquerade
T. Rex - Electric Warrior
T. Rex - T. Rex
T. Rex - The Slider
T2- It'll All Work Out In Boomland
Taj Mahal Travellers - August 1974
Tangerine Dream - Electronic Meditation
Ted Nugent - Cat Scratch Fever
Ted Nugent - Double Live Gonzo!
Teenage Jesus and the Jerks - Beirut Slump: Shut Up and Bleed
Teenage Jesus and the Jerks - Live at Max’s Kansas City 1977
Teenage Jesus and the Jerks - s/t
Television - Marquee Moon
Television - The Blow Up
The Adverts - Crossing the Red Sea with the Adverts
The Bar-Kays - Black Rock
The Bar-Kays - Coldblooded
The Bar-Kays - Do You See What I See?
The Beat - The Beat
The Clash - Give 'Em Enough Rope
The Crawdaddys - Crawdaddy Express
The Damned - Damned Damned Damned
The Desperate Bicycles - Remorse Code
The Deviants - The Mona (The Carnivorous Circus)
The Dictators - Go Girl Crazy!
The Edgar Winter Group - They Only Come Out at Night
The Electric Eels - God Says Fuck You
The Fall - 77-Early Years-79
The Fall - Dragnet
The Fall - Live at the Witch Trials
The Gentrys - The Gentrys
The Girls - Live at the rathskeller 5.17.79
The Groundhogs - Split
The Groundhogs - Thank Christ For The Bomb
The Groundhogs - Who Will Save The World
The Hampton Grease Band - music to eat
The Hand of Doom - Poisonoise
The Jam - In the City
The Jimmy Castor Bunch - It's Just Begun
The Lafayette Afro Rock Band - Soul Makossa
The Modern Lovers - The Modern Lovers
The Move - Looking On and Message From the Country
The Only Ones - The Only Ones
The Pirates - Out of Their Skulls
The Pop Group - Y
The Raincoats - s/t
the red crayola - soldier talk
The Runaways - Queens of Noise
The Runaways - self-titled
The Ruts - The Crack
The Saints - Eternally Yours
The Saints - I'm Stranded
The Saints - Prehistoric Sounds
The Sensational Alex Harvey Band - Next...
The Slits - Cut
The Soft Machine - Third
The Stooges - Fun House
The Stranglers - No More Heroes
The Stranglers - Rattus Norvegicus
The Temptations - Psychedelic Shack
The Tony Williams Lifetime - Turn It Over
The Undertones - s/t
The Undertones - Teenage Kicks
The Undisputed Truth - S/T
The Visitors – The Visitors
The Who - Who's Next
The Wild Magnolias - The Wild Magnolias
Theoretical Girls - Theoretical Record
Thin Lizzy - Bad Reputation
Thin Lizzy - Black Rose: A Rock Legend
Thin Lizzy – Fighting
Thin Lizzy - Jailbreak
Thin Lizzy - Johnny the Fox
Thin Lizzy - Live and Dangerous
Thin Lizzy - Night Life
Thin Lizzy - Vagabonds Of The Western World
This Heat - This Heat
Thomas Leer & Robert Rental - The Bridge
Throbbing Gristle - 20 Jazz funk Greats
Throbbing Gristle - D.O.A. - The Third and Final Report
Throbbing Gristle - First Annual Report
Throbbing Gristle - The Second Annual Report
Tirogo - Float
Todd Rundgren - A Wizard, A True Star
Tonto's Exploding Head Band - Zero Time
Top Drawer - Song of A Sinner
Toto - Toto
Trapeze - Medusa
Trust - L'elite
Truth & Janey- No Rest For The Wicked
Tubeway Army - Tubeway Army
Twink - Think Pink
U.K. Subs - Another Kind of Blues
UFO - Force It
UFO - Lights Out
UFO – Phenomenon
Ultravox! - Ha! Ha! Ha!
Ultravox! - s/t
Univeria Zekt - The Unnamables
Univers Zero - Heresie
Unknown Artists - 100% Unknown Fibers Odd Lots
Uriah Heep ‎– ...Very 'Eavy Very 'Umble...
Uriah Heep - Demons and Wizards
Uriah Heep - The Magician's Birthday
Urinals - Another
Urinals - EP
V/A - No New York
Van der Graaf Generator – Godbluff
Van der Graaf Generator – Pawn Hearts
Van der Graaf Generator – Still Life
Van Halen - s/t
Vanilla Fudge - Renaissance
War - All Day Music
War - The World Is a Ghetto
Wayne County and The Electric Chairs - Things Your Mother Never Told You
Weidorje - "W"
Wigwam - Being
Wipers - Is This Real
Wire - 154
Wire - Chairs Missing
Wire - Pink Flag
Wishbone Ash - Argus
Wishbone Ash – Pilgrimage
Wishbone Ash – Wishbone Four
Witch - Introduction
Wizzard - Wizzard Brew
Xhol - Motherfuckers GMBH & Co KG
X-Ray Spex - Germ Free Adolescents
XTC - White Music
Ya Ho Wha 13 - Penetration: An Aquarian Symphony
Yatha Sidhra - A Meditation Mass
Yes - Close To The Edge
Yes - Fragile
Yes - Relayer
Yoko Ono - Fly
ZZ Top - Tres Hombres

*1970s not 1979

Some of the albums I nommed probably sound like they are made up (Yatha Sidhra + Annexus Quam) but I assure you they are real.

I noticed earlier that someone nommed a 70's novel but I think that has been omitted.

nothing fake from me in that.
fwiw - all my other noms exist.

franz kafka - the castle &
k.i.s.s - keep it short and simple
were intended as jokey comments, in the style of nominations.

i'm really sorry - bad judgement.
kinda figured someone might notice before they got put in the spreadsheet.

ok - thomas bernhard - correction - i couldn't resist the temptation once the frankie kaftan was up in the spreadsheet.
having said that, it rocks harder than jandek's "ready for the house".

That Mirrors album has just made all the Sic Alps albums in my collection redundant. The Satori album has made everything redundant for the last few days. It is one them rare albums where you never skip past a track because it is all so perfect.

Khan - Space Shanty
The Pretty Things - Parachute
High Tide - s/t
A.R. & Machines - Die grüne Reise - The Green Journey
Demon Fuzz - Afreaka!
Erkin Koray - Electronik Turkuler
Far Out - s/t
Goblin - Suspiria
Patti Smith - Radio Ethiopia
Culpeper's Orchard - s/t
Lard Free - Gilbert Artman's Lard Free

sorry - the erkin koray is a duplicate

"Looking On" and "Message From The Country" are two separate Move albums. Once again, I apologize for being unable to follow simple directions.

AG-

these were skipped:

Urinals - Negative Capability...Check It Out!
Vertical Slit - Under the Blood Red Lava Lamp

this is from 70s Poll v. 2.0 (and not a 70s rec):

Sonics - Introducing the Sonics

Demon Fuzz - Afreaka!

Actually please could you delete this one, cos I was listening to it again while I was walking the dogs and it doesn't really fit the poll - it's more jazzy soul sort of stuff with a much lower freak-out quotient than I remembered.

I haven't nominated any fake but go ahead and removed Michael Farneti - Good Morning Kisses since it isn't hard or heavy by the parameter in this poll. It's like more like the love boat on acid, no loud guitars, just wacky keyboards and weird compositions. It's one of my favorite records, but No one will vote for it.

There is only Here Come The Warm Jets on the list are there any more Brian Eno albums allowed? I know they don't Rock but they must meet some of the criteria of this poll.

that Vertical Slit record is from the early 80s i think?
i nommed Coven before the other thread were closed, that one is 68 or 69
High Tide - Sea Shanties is 69
i would vote for Slapp Happy - Acnalbasac Noom but don't really see it fitting the poll.

Brownsville Station - School Punks
Silberbart - 4 Times Sound Razing
German Oak - German Oak
Truth and Janey - No Rest For the Wicked
Raven - Back to Ohio Blues
Morly Grey - The Only Truth
Les Variations - Nador
Vertical Slit - Slit & Pre-Slit
Mahogany Brain - With (Junk-Saucepan) When (Spoon-Trigger)
Twinkeyz - Aliens In Our Midst
Generation X - Generation X

The Police - Outlandos D'Amour
The Police - Regatta De Blanc

Slapp Happy Acnalbasac Noom is already nommed and on the list.

Ah! I see you think it doesn't fit the poll. I nommed it and wasn't really sure myself. If that gets excluded there are others that are just as unsure.

yet that's what i meant. as an album it doesn't rock hard enough to merit inclusion on the poll IMO, but i'm voting for it in case it stays nominated. "the drum" is a pretty rocking tune anyway.

There's tons of stuff being nominated nobody has heard of and now we might have to remove it all unless its proved these albums exist. It's enough hassle running these things without this bullshit.

I know there's context and all that, but this is kind of a beautiful thought imo.

"How do we know that anything really exists?"

I wanted to nominate Morly Grey but thought it was too downer and slow, since this seems mostly to be a proto-metal poll.

ha i tried my best to nominate non proto-metal records but if you remove the heavy psych and hard rock stuff from the first half of the 70s you're left with very few options for the poll.

a couple spanish items:

Máquina! - Why?
Veneno - Veneno
La Banda Trapera del Río - La Banda Trapera del Río

Was Dancing In Your Head vetoed?

Captain Beefheart - Mirror Man
David Bowie - Lodger
Brainticket - Psychonaut
Golem - Orion Awakes

^AG you make the call whether this last one qualifies or not

also there SERIOUSLY needs to be more Rallizes love on this thread than there currently is

like Satori is great in a 'hooray Yardbirds' kind of sense, but 77 Live just blows it out of the water. Epochal, elemental, noise of the filaments.

no police no lodger no ornette

updated
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AumbddEHET5xdEZaQ0paMUZpNEdGeUdRSGRTY3BfV2c#gid=0

Embryo - Opal
Magma - s/t
Mick Farren - Mona: The Carnivorous Circus

Christian Vander - Wurdah Itah

no police no lodger no ornette

what about santana? i nommed abraxas earlier

also there SERIOUSLY needs to be more Rallizes love on this thread than there currently is!!!!

my man

Truth & (And) Janey- No Rest for the Wicked is on the list twice

the rockingest thing the police ever did in the 70s (ie fall out) wasn't even on their albums. maybe one for the tracks poll?

so many records on the list that at some stage in the past i really wanted to hear but then forgotten about as my mental list of such things mushroomed and my brain grew cloudier. cool to be reminded of them in the youtube/spotify era, even this part of the poll has been an education. why did i never listen to twink before?

that Vertical Slit record is from the early 80s i think?

Under the Blood Red Lava Lamp is a comp of their two earlier singles and belongs here as much as any of the many other comps on this list that collect obscure material by other bands, but w/e:

Vertical Slit - Urban Imprint 3

lol nice edit

this DMZ rec is really hittin the spot

DMZ are ridiculously equal to the New York Dolls. Maybe even better!

Oh shit!!!

The Damned - Machine Gun Etiquette

A lot of people are going to go to vote and realise all the punk/postpunk they want to vote for wasn't nominated. So get to it you slack bastards as jjj says.

Hellhouse and colonel poo need to do this

Punk and post-punk are my jams, but they really don't seem to belong in this poll, IMO. I may exclude them entirely from my ballot.

kinda feel like punk in the late 70s was a singles game, and most of the great albums have been nommed

tho I'm surprised no one's done this one

The Clash - s/t

get the punk nominated!

and I'll throw this in because I'm pissed I neglected them in the 80s poll, one of the greats

Au Pairs - Equal But Different - BBC Sessions 79-81

I'll probably make a couple exceptions for stuff I consider heavy, like Sex Pistols and Joy Division, maybe PiL

Even if you wontvote for it, it should still be nominated to give you and others a choice. Remember loads dont nominate but vote (see la lechera up above) and they will complain albums they want to vote for aren't there. So lets get everything nominated.

if you need inspiration try here
http://rateyourmusic.com/customchart?page=1&chart_type=top&type=album&year=1970s&genre_include=1&include_child_genres=1&genres=metal%2C+punk+rock%2C+funk%2C+krautrock%2C+post-punk%2C+heavy+psych%2C+hard+rock&include_child_genres_chk=1&include=both&origin_countries=&limit=none&countries=

Punk and post-punk are my jams, but they really don't seem to belong in this poll, IMO. I may exclude them entirely from my ballot.

i dunno, where would you put the cut-off point in eg. the stooges/mc5 -> dead boys/rocket from the crypt -> the damned ???

punk belongs, end of

yeah, saying punk doesn't belong in the 70s poll is kind of o_O

i can see why people might say "most of that funk doesnt belong but hey AG is pfunkboy after all" but why on earth wouldn't punk belong?

oh and i added more funk and acid fried black rock yesterday but please nominate more!

some obvious funk albums I haven't added myself but wont veto if others do.

everybody should check out crime if you want to hear some good gutter punk

It's just a personal preference. I can get down with mixing hard 'n' heavy with arty, noisy & weird, but not funky 'n' punky. Maybe because I imagine it as a playlist in my head. Just explainin why I'm not motivated to scour my site for missing noms in those categories.

Captain Beefheart - Mirror Man is one of my favorite records but I don't think it should count since it was recorded in the '60s.

Ennio Morricone - Exorcist II: The Heretic OST

(youtube 'Magic and Ecstasy' if you doubt me)

so could a helluva lot of albums released in 1970

Ennio Morricone - Exorcist II: The Heretic OST

whoops

then put them in the tracks poll!

I remember buying Mirror Man as a double gatefold album with Safe as Milk. I thought it was from 1974 or something?

For those who want to, I don't have the database drop-down queries working properly on the live site, but they work on this test page. You have to look at punk and post-punk separately - http://fastnbulbous.com/list-test.php

like Satori is great in a 'hooray Yardbirds' kind of sense

wha?

but 77 Live just blows it out of the water.

Why is Live 77 considered "the one"? I've heard that, something called "1973 LP?", Oz Days, and France Demo Tape, and they all seem pretty comparable. They're great in a "hooray distortion" kind of way but underneath that their songs and playing aren't anywhere near Flower Travelin Band.

Updated nominations list. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AumbddEHET5xdEZaQ0paMUZpNEdGeUdRSGRTY3BfV2c#gid=0

I remember buying Mirror Man as a double gatefold album with Safe as Milk. I thought it was from 1974 or something?

It's different takes, and outtakes from Strictly Personal which was recorded in '67 and released in '68.

If it was recorded in '69 and didn't come out until '70 I could see including it, but it was recorded in '67 and the songs were mostly previously released in a different form in '68.

yeah, it is kind of an archival thing from another era

ok its gone

We should all go through http://rateyourmusic.com/customchart?page=1&chart_type=top&type=album&year=1970s&genre_include=1&include_child_genres=1&genres=metal%2C+punk+rock%2C+funk%2C+krautrock%2C+post-punk%2C+heavy+psych%2C+hard+rock&include_child_genres_chk=1&include=both&origin_countries=&limit=none&countries=

Dont bother nominating the talking heads or blondie though!

can we not have a wee sneaky "plastic letters"?

If I musttt

Wire, the first three

Buzxcocks, all

a-child 666

krafteerk 1

okbye

Lookin For Some Hot Stuff: ILX 70s RAWK Tracks Poll - Metal, Buttrock, Punk, AOR, and More NOMINATIONS THREAD (nomination period closes 17OCT12)

wk are you my new troll buddy?

Since the Fela can of worms was already opened...

Fela Kuti – Roforofo Fight
Fela Kuti – Open & Close
Fela Kuti – Sorrow Tears And Blood
Fela Kuti – Shuffering and Shmiling
Fela Kuti – Gentleman
Fela Kuti – Fela's London Scene
Fela Kuti – Shakara
Fela Kuti – Confusion
Fela Kuti – Expensive Shit

Tony Allen – No Accomodation For Lagos

Man if jjj thinks the nom list is incomplete he shd def come in here to lay some down and refresh our memories

aussie edition

X - X-Aspirations
The Victims - All Loud on the Western Front
Rose Tattoo - s/t
The Scientists - The Sweet Corn Sessions aka Pissed on Another Planet
The Boys Next Door - Door Door

note to AG -
polite request to not call me out on fb by my irl name and link to ilx thread
i will support this endeavor however i can, but am v busy @ work atm
i promise not to bitch if my favorite albums are not nominated

thanks amigo

actually i am moderately busy at work, but too busy mentally to immerse myself in this project

Satan's Rats - What A Bunch Of Rodents
The Kids - s/t
The Kids - Naughty Kids
Sonic's Rendezvous Band - Too Much Crank
The Vibrators - Pure Mania
The Mekons - The Quality Of Mercy Is Not Strnen
The Units - History Of The Units The Early Years: 1977-1983
Robert Gordon w/ Link Wray - s/t
Robert Gordon w/ Link Wray - Fresh Fish Special
Link Wray - Wray's Three Track Shack
The Rezillos - Can't Stand the Rezillos
Slaughter & the Dogs - Do It Dog Style
The Weirdos - Weird World Vols 1&2
The Zeros - Don't Push Me Around
The Quick - Untold Rock Stories

wk are you my new troll buddy?

??? thinking that flower travelling band is a better band than les rallizes is trolling? I think it just comes down to riffs vs. atmosphere. FTB brings the riffs and imo LRD's only memorable riff is their "I Will Follow Him" bass lift on "Night of the Assassin".

In a riffs vs. atmosphere battle, I'll take atmosphere.

Right on. Wasn't trying to overreact. Guitar noise in LRD is chaotic and gnashing tho, and is like an ocean wave of terror. Apparently I only like music that I can attach purple prose to. xp to wk

wow, heavier than a death in the family is on spotify

yeah, I mean this is silly. I like LRD! I'm not trying to criticize them. They still seem kind of shockingly ahead of their time to me, and important in the way they influenced a lot of later stuff like Fushitsusha and all of the PSF bands. But I do personally favor riffs and songs and so I like FTB better. And I think Joe had a killer banshee wail. Riffs vs. atmosphere isn't totally accurate either because FTB have a lot of atmosphere to them as well. I guess you could criticize them by saying that the atmosphere they created was largely borrowed from Sabbath where LRD's punishing dense noise thing was more unique for the time. I dunno, I'm just having fun talking about records I like, even if I'm not actually saying anything interesting. hope I didn't shit up the thread too much.

Link Wray - Wray's Three Track Shack is actually 3 records compiled onto 2 cds, the Self Titled, Beans and Fatback and the Mordicai Jones record. Beans and Fatback is the heaviest and weirdest imo and probably belongs here

hope I didn't shit up the thread too much

no way and keep on with it, the more enthusiasm on these things, the better

they're all of a piece so rather than nom one I figured go for the whole enchilada

xp

Brian Eno - Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy)

I'm hoping AG rejects all the eno noms so here come the warm jets can suck up the votes

whoops did I say that out loud

I'm hoping AG rejects all the eno noms so here come the warm jets can suck up the votes

whoops did I say that out loud

I am just working on the premise that if someone can sneak Warm Jets in ....

Sneak it in?? Warm Jets is a noisy rock album by any standard with one of Robert Fripp's most blazing solos. The rest of the Eno albums, I dunno.

so much of warm jets rocks, "needles", "blank frank", lotsa great gtr work from fripp

before and after science is the next most rockingest

is blank frank on the tracks noms?

Y'right but I discounted all of Brian Eno when I read the criteria of this poll! I am just thick!

How about these?:

Frank Zappa - The Grand Wazoo
Frank Zappa - Waka/Jawaka

At the risk of incurring AG's eternal displeasure...

Simple Minds - Real To Real Cacophony

If you don't know this album, this is the first of the three or four great art-rock albums they made well before they went right down the shitter. The next couple of recordsafter this one were a lot funkier, but here they're kind of like a more electronic version of Magazine, or like earlier Ultravox! before they lost the apostrophe. Big Roxy Music influence and obviously Lou and Iggy and Bowie too, but there's also a lot of Kraftwerk and Pere Ubu there. Anyhow, there are definitely one or two tracks that don't really work so well, but give 'Changeling' or ''Factory' or 'Calling Your Name' a go.

how about

Patto - s/t
Flied Egg - Good Bye
Necronomicon - Tips Zum Selbstmord
Akira Ishikawa & Count Buffaloes - Uganda
Madrigal - s/t
Visitors - s/t
The Quick - Mondo Deco
Milk 'n' Cookies - s/t
Third World War - s/t
The Up - Killer Up! (this is a retrospective compilation that came out in the '90s. not sure if that counts)

Awesome call on the Patto.

no simple minds no fucking way, lol

The Residents - The Third Reich 'n Roll

Träd, Gräs & Stenar - s/t
Bobby Beausoleil - Lucifer Rising OST

Toad - s/t
May Blitz - The 2nd of May
Kraan - Wintrup

Hey AG, I'm not going to shed tears over Simple Minds or anything -I know yr a hater on that account- but seriously give this a listen cos to me it's like they've spent the year listening to Pere Ubu and 'I Want More' on repeat or something...

http://youtu.be/c4hny2MEW_s

send em to the tracks poll!

Nailing colours to the mast time - I'm looking forward to this poll proving once and for all that Fun House is a better album than Raw Power.

re zappa, i would say "overnite sensation" & "apostrophe" are more "rock" than "waka/jawaka" or "the grand wazoo",
and even then i haven't nommed them cos i didn't think they were "rock" enough,
unlike takehisa "hounddog" kosugi and his rockabilly taj mahal motorcycle travellers.
outta control perfumed bubble bath now !
yowsa !

This poll should be a learn something new poll. That is what attracted me to it. This poll has got me thinking that Satori is better than Funhouse!

nothing is better than fun house. nothing!

Chrome - Read Only Memory
Chrome - The Visitation
Circle X - Live in Dijon ‘79
Friction - ’79 Live
Glaxo Babies - Dreams Interrupted: The Bewilderbeat Years 1978-1980
James Chance & Pill Factory - Grutzi Elvis Soundtrack
James White and the Blacks - Off White
Material - Temporary Music 1
Model Citizens - s/t
Nervous Gender - Live at the Hong Kong Cafe 1979
Throbbing Gristle with Albrecht D. - Music From the Death Factory

I do like that bit in Satori where he sings 'the sun shines every day' when basically it sounds like he's on a cold mountaintop somewhere surrounded by mist as thick as gruel and hasn't seen sunlight for a year

Hm, Satori didn't knock me out on first listen the way it seems to have done for most of this thread's posters, although I liked it well enough. I'll give it another try. Awesome guitar tones and voice.

So far, Ash Ra Tempel is my happiest discovery from this thread, although I do think it's funny that Join Inn is included here.

nothing is better than fun house. nothing!

OTM! Except of course Raw Power. And the self-titled. And all of those great outtakes from the Raw Power sessions (Sick of You, Tight Pants, I Got A Right, Gimme Some Skin, etc). And Satori.

AG - looks like a bunch of stuff from this post didn't get added.

That and the 4th Track with the bluesy Harmonica are the bomb! They both have made everything else redundant at the moment, for me. Shit THEY ARE THE FUCKING BOMB!

it's funny seeing people not knowing the FTB and Ash Ra Tempel albums yet they get their socks knocked off just like we all did the first time we heard them.
Everyones always said oh its between zep and sabbath for this poll but I've always known stooges will beat both in an ILM poll. I bet I'm right too

sabbath fatally handicapped by vote splitting imo

I'm boycotting the stooges. who's with me?

MC5 so tragically underrated compared to the stooges

I am boycotting The Stooges just because they seem too obvious and we all know they were great but this is an alternative to the standard rock canon type poll. I will ignore the Doll's and the Pistols for the same reason, just bored of hearing them.

In the past I would have voted for Vol. 4 but I think I feel like voting for Sabbath Bloody Sabbath now.

I know what Krampus is bringing Damo for a holiday gift. The recent Sex Pistols Super Deluxe Box Set!

The Super Deluxe Box Set edition of Never Mind The Bollocks features three CDs and one DVD, as well as a hardback 100-page book, replica A&M "God Save The Queen"/"No Feeling" 7” single, postcards, promo stickers and a copy of original handwritten lyrics for "God Save The Queen".
CD1 is the original album, featuring all 12 tracks including "EMI", "Holidays in the Sun" and "Anarchy in the UK".
CD2 features the four b-sides remastered and 10 Dave Goodman January 1977 demos recorded at Gooseberry Studios.
CD3 includes 20 live tracks from 1977 gigs in Norway and Sweden.
The DVD contains a mixture of promo videos, live recordings and interviews with the band.
There is also 1977 (The Bollocks Diaries) - a 100 page full-colour hardback diary detailing every significant band event in this explosive year. Written by former Mojo editor Pat Gilbert, the book includes multiple quotes from key figures, previously unseen photos, recording details, memorabilia and much more.

I'm comfortable with it simply being assumed The Stooges are the greatest ever, but that would be an achievement to get everyone to leave them off.

I'll campaign for this:

http://fastnbulbous.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/guruguru_kanguru.jpg
Guru Guru, Känguru (1972)
Guru Guru are kind of the Spinal Tap of the German avant rock scene, with the aptly named Ax Genrich peeling off gonzoid slabs of guitar madness inspired by Hendrix and Blue Cheer, but also anticipating the likes of Chrome and MX-80 Sound with flashes of brilliance that sounds positively post-punk. Their first and fourth albums, UFO (1970) and Guru Guru (1973) are often cited as their best. They’re wrong. Their third album Känguru reflects bandleader and drummer Mani Neumeier’s peak. Learning from his friends Conny Plank and Hans-Joachim Roedelius of Cluster/Harmonia, it’s also their best sounding album. Try Hinten (1971) next.

Such a good call on the Träd, Gräs & Stenar and the Bobby Beausoleil. Both such incredible albums. I don't think TG&S ever made a bad one, but the s/t one is probably the best to nominate.

I could get behind striking the top 40 entries in the Rateyourmusic list from the nominees, unless anyone cares which order ILX likes Stooges, Sabbath and Zep.

You have sold Kanguru to me bigtime!

If you really wanted to limit the chances of certain bands dominating we could just only allow the voters to vote for 1 album by certain bands but can you imagine the clusterfuck? Which ones would get limited?
Zep
Sabbath
Stooges
Rush

and who else?

It couldnt work.

Look AG you have done a really good job on this poll and some things can't be fixed. I imagine there are a lot of people like me who just selfishly use these polls to find new shit listen to. Don't worry about it, damned if you do damned if you don't. That is just the way it is for anyone runs music polls.

Yeah I approached this poll as an anti-canon/anti-Rolling Stones(mag) best of 70's. Everyone knows Sabbath/Zep/Stooges/Pistols are great and are RnR hall of famer's. What's interesting is what has still been left out of the 70's heavy and hard rock canon. Isn't that what this was for?

But Rolling Stone hated Sabbath and they were criminally underrated in their day </joe carducci>

I don't think TG&S ever made a bad one, but the s/t one is probably the best to nominate.

I'm glad because it's the only one I've heard! But yeah between the Parson Sound, Intl Harvester, and TG&S stuff I've heard they seem pretty consistent.

I guess just replacing the RS canon with the Creem canon doesn't really work either. I want to see the Aquarius Records/Forced Exposure/Head Heritage canon.

Man Stooges boycotting is so disheartening

Why vote for an album that you know inside out and has been part of your life for over 20 years? It's like fucking entering your wife into a beauty pageant! It just seems like a waste of energy to me.

An album that has already been critically celebrated, repeatedly for the last two decades.

Yeah, the idea of polling an aesthetic was what I interpreted as the more important factor than being 'anti-canonical' for its own sake (especially since RS hated most hard rock and prog in the 70s anyway, Zeppelin included). Boycotting great albums just because everyone knows they're great (when many still don't) seems like such a bizarre idea to me.

(RS loved Sonic Youth and Husker Du btw.)

xpost Wow, that's pretty foreign reasoning to me. What better reason is there to vote for an album??

That was 2xpost

Sorry I am drunk and am going to bed. Missing the point here bigtime probably!

I mean, RS does revere Zeppelin now and even seems to be coming around re Rush.

re zappa, i would say "overnite sensation" & "apostrophe" are more "rock" than "waka/jawaka" or "the grand wazoo",

I wouldn't argue if they were vetoed. They both have pretty solidly rock grooves imo, with some biting lead guitar bits but are basically big band fusion records. I was just curious whether they'd fit, especially I like them way more than Zappa's song-oriented material from the 70s.

I just listened to Van Halen in its entirety for the first time. It's kind of rad!

That reminded me to nominate "Eruption".

Van der Graaf Generator - Still Life is listed twice on the spreadsheet.

They're one of those bands that in the back of my mind I knew "someday I guess I have to make an effort to understand or get into them" but I never feel like bothering. That sound was so much a part of the fabric of stuff that I wasn't into when I was a kid that I think it's hard for me to understand how new they would have sounded at the time. I tend to just tune out that kind of flashy, over the top, noodly shredding but the way he does it on this album is actually pretty musical and interesting.
xp

I'm glad because it's the only one I've heard! But yeah between the Parson Sound, Intl Harvester, and TG&S stuff I've heard they seem pretty consistent.

Yeah, they have a bunch and the 2 live ones (so I think that makes them ineligible for this poll) Mors Mors and Djungelns Lag are probably my favorite. I saw them a couple of times several of years ago and they destroyed.

I just listened to Van Halen in its entirety for the first time. It's kind of rad!

That album is so fantastic!

TG&S live albums are eligible no? I have only heard the Parson sound and Int'l Harvester albums (except for the 26 min vers of 'Sommerlaten' on Mors Mors. Rad!)

Thanks for nominating Bobby Beausoleil - Lucifer Rising OST!!! I had no idea there was a 4 lp box set!

TG&S live albums are eligible no?

I suppose they are, I don't know why I thought otherwise. In that case...

Träd, Gräs & Stenar - Mors Mors
Träd, Gräs & Stenar - Djungelns Lag

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kxdNW8ls1fM/TVHsKzBypQI/AAAAAAAACTA/l8r-_Kak2jM/s1600/49.Yonin+Bayashi+%2528%25E5%259B%259B%25E4%25BA%25BA%25E5%259B%2583%25E5%25AD%2590%2529+-+Isshoku+Sokuhatsu+%2528%25E4%25B8%2580%25E8%25A7%25A6%25E5%258D%25B3%25E7%2599%25BA%2529+%25281974%2529.jpg

Yonin Bayashi - Isshoku Sokuhatsu

http://youtu.be/LGeT6pFkVpk

^^^ epic Floyd-ian/VDGG-esque jam alert, that track really kicks off at about the 6:45 mark and then just fucking brings it for the next six minutes. And come on, who could resist that album cover?

Soft Machine - Third

ffs how many times is that gonna be nominated? its there under The Soft Machine - Third which is how you nominated it 3 times before.

hahaha, who calls them The Soft Machine, it's not 1967 guys

Balls dream of a top 1000 rollout isn't gonna happen. Not even got 800 albums nominated!

i can't think of any more, except for african or south american records nobody would ever vote for. otherwise i'd have to go into my record bunker and look through piles of records but it's too cold to go in there today!

i call them the soft machine sometimes.

Far East Family Band - Parallel World
Vulcan - Meet your ghost
Area - Crac!
Cos - Postaeolian Train Robbery
Arti & Mestieri - Tilt
Picchio dal Pozzo - Picchio dal Pozzo
Etron Fou Leloublan - Batelages
Arachnoid - Arachnoid
ZNR - Barricade 3
Mama Béa Tekielski - La Folle

Pau Riba - Electroccid Accid Alquimistic Xoc
Swamp Dogg - Total Destruction to Your Mind
Subway Sect - We Oppose All Rock & Roll
Punishment of Luxury - Laughing Academy
J.J. Burnel - Euroman Cometh

Apparently not much ZZ Top has been nominated, so:

ZZ Top - ZZ Top's First Album
ZZ Top - Rio Grande Mud
ZZ Top - Fandango!
ZZ Top - Tejas
ZZ Top - Degüello

Also:

The Who - Quadrophenia
The Who - Who's Next
Mott the Hoople - All the Young Dudes
Mott the Hoople - Mott
Creedence Clearwater Revival - Pendulum

I wouldn't know where to start with Black Oak Arkansas, but they apparently recorded 14 albums in the 70s. Anyone?

That should be

The Who - Who Are You

above, obv Who's Next has been nominated!

otherwise i'd have to go into my record bunker and look through piles of records but it's too cold to go in there today!

you're Scottish, how can it be too cold! We're used to it!

Alberto y Lost Trios Paranoias - Italians From Outer Space
The Monochrome Set - Black & White Minstrels 1975-1979

George Brigman - Jungle Rot

I wouldn't know where to start with Black Oak Arkansas, but they apparently recorded 14 albums in the 70s. Anyone?

you could start with these two

Black Oak Arkansas - High on the Hog
Black Oak Arkansas - X-Rated

you're Scottish, how can it be too cold! We're used to it!

'cos the room in question could literally double as an ice locker.