future - pluto poll

1. same damn time
2. parachute
3. magic (remix)

nothing else is worthy

this is a weird album to poll but "turn on the lights" obv

you think? idk i didnt think it had an obvious winner + there was no dedicated future thread

neva end

i had been thinking of doing some kind of future singles/features type poll just because it doesn't feel fair to stack the hits up against the deep cuts here but obv it's all good

1. neva end
2. turn on the lights
3. same damn time
4. you deserve it
5. long live the pimp

classic album. only thing worth keeping from the re-release is diddy's A+ shit-talking on the remix of 'same damn time'

"Turn On the Lights."

"Same Damn Time" did a terrific job scaring students from my desk last Tuesday.

actually i've been thinking for a while i would love some dude to do us a best 2 chainz verse of the year poll

we don't need a poll, it's "mercy"

ha i dunno man, there's sooo many, and few real competitors for the "Mercy" verse

ha xpost

'parachute' isn't v well liked from what i remember on the rolling thread? It's either that or 'truth gonna..' for me. My favourite and most played album of the year by a distance.

lex is trolling so hard really

surprised he can like those 3 songs + then not like the rest

how? i just don't like future much and i def can't take an album's worth. i don't like much goon consensus music atm

surprised he can like those 3 songs + then not like the rest

because the rest are all the same but in a bad way not in a good waka way

the whole album except those 3 tracks sounds the same to you? realllly

i had to review it and after sitting through the whole thing multiple times i wanted to kill him

can't even listen to the songs i like any more tbh the experience scarred me

my fav future verse of the year is prob from 'brick fair'

"goon consensus music" should be the title of future's next mixtape

yall will have read this post already but to be fair to lex for me personally it wasnt until i got a little back into us radio and stuff hearing him in situ that future really clicked w/ me - like it's not just the question of his having zero profile here but the fundamental sensibility is imo simply not uk-compatible without making the mental adjustment. guys like teeps and idk the martorialist or whoever are a lot more outliery than americans probably can realise or even maybe conceive

(that said lex specifically is obv more about a lexbubble logic than being plugged into any uk habitus)

voted 'turn on the lights' anyway despite not feeling partic qualified really and truly

it's so obnoxious that after Pluto 3D dropped only the clean version of the original Pluto is on Spotify

i was shocked to discover the martorialist was british. i swear he used pretend to be from NY but that might have just been one of his online characters idk

dude wtf he's reffed mundane brit stuff since forever!

he can probably come explain for himself actually judging by a suspicious sudden appearance of "mansplaining" recently

voted for "austronaut chick" since no one else will

She's a big booty freak and she fart, straight up

i only actually started reading the martorialist recently (and yeah it's obvious he is british) but i think the same dude has been writing about rap (and trolling) on different parts of the internet for years and years under slightly different personas. xxp

She's a big booty freak and she fart, straight up

― small-scale fux with (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, December 10, 2012 10:06 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no matter how many times i hear "Same Damn Time" and know what he's saying, i always think "why is he saying 'Gucci Mane an idiot'?"

One of his ballads, obviously. Turn On The Lights probably takes it.

She's a big booty freak and she fart, straight up

― small-scale fux with (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, December 10, 2012 10:06 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no matter how many times i hear "Same Damn Time" and know what he's saying, i always think "why is he saying 'Gucci Mane an idiot'?"

― some dude, Monday, December 10, 2012 8:17 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah I totally hear that too.

voted "Truth Gonna Hurt You"

voted for "austronaut chick" since no one else will

i will!

TURN ON THE LIGHTS

followed by YOU DESERVE IT

i think 'you deserve it' is overrated, 'paradise' underrated

cant vote for anything other than 'turn on the lights' tho

i've probably said it before but this song >>> you deserve it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMYcGImJA2A

also mixtape track 'trending topic' >>> 80% of this album, idk why it didn't make it

TURN ON THE LIGHTS

followed by YOU DESERVE IT

― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Monday, December 10, 2012 9:30 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

My copy doesn't have those last two (bonus?) tracks and I can't imagine a more perfect ending for the album than YDI

1. Turn on the Lights
2. Straight Up
3. Neva End
4. Same Damn Time

Love love love love love this album.

i believe like pluto 3d makes a grievous error in moving "you deserve it" to track two instead of what closes the regular edition of the original pluto. it functions so well as a closer, or at least after being set up by 14 other tracks...

yeah the whole idea of Pluto 3D is annoying, messing up the running order and replacing dope songs w/ remixes, instead of just doing a deluxe version w/ extra tracks at the end. the new songs are good, though, especially "First Class Flights."

All the new songs are great. My is probably my favorite. The Diddy verse on Same Damn Time is good enough reason for its inclusion, and an early You Deserve It works for me. The Neva End remix is weaker than the og though and not jumping directly from the solemn intro to the silly parachute sex makes for a less adventurous album. 3D also feels a bit too long. I'm happy we got both of them, though, since they're so different. Probably my #1 and #2 albums this year.

his voice on "My" is so crazy

Diddy on "Same" is fun but taking the orig off the album entirely is unacceptable

Yeah, kinda. But that's the thing. You Deserve It works at the beginning because I already have Pluto and know how it ends. So it takes off where the first one leaves off. You've got to have both.

So it takes off where the first one leaves off.

― dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Tuesday, December 11, 2012 2:56 PM (58 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that makes sense, but only if we're getting a majorly different album, and i suppose with all the remixes one could maybe argue that

they should've put the original Future solo tracks in place of the songs that had remixes on the original album ("Magic" and "Tony Montana")

I think it is a majorly different album, in a Borgesian kind of way. Not saying it could not have been improved on though.

it's interesting to me that it exists, just that a major label would do this kind of thing for a popular but not hugely selling rap album just cause its singles have legs. will be interesting to see if they really keep pushing him hard in 2013, definitely feels like he could just get bigger and bigger from here.

Astronaut Status might make my top 5 too. Top 10 at the very least.

yeah astronaut status is underrated

i feel like the absence of a discernable personality or persona is holding him back somewhat

yeah i'm not saying he's going to be a superstar, just that things look good for him having at least 2 good years of mainstream presence (as opposed to, say, Waka's one good year)

I don't think you can write a song like Turn On The Lights without a discernible persona. It just doesn't fit right in with your typical rap persona. It will all become clearer in time.

i cant discern a personality from that song, it's excellently written and performed, but i get zero sense of who Future is from it.

this doesn't make the song bad, it's just harder to truly crossover, i think, when people aren't invested in your persona, at least for rappers

i agree w al but there's def a difference between sustaining or slightly raising your presence in the rap/r&b world (esp radio) and truly crossing over. i don't think future is gonna do the latter but the former seems possible at this point... i would be surprised if he fell off like waka

xpost. Well, who else could perform it? If not many people could make it work, I think that testifies to a persona being in place.

yeah i deliberately said nothing about 'crossover' because being on a rihanna album cut is probably the ceiling for him as far as that's concerned, i'm just curious whether his 2nd album will have 3 or more solid hits

i like to think "You Deserve It" is about Future deciding to cheat on his diet

although the sudden rash of rihanna/kelly rowland/ciara collabs certainly suggests that he has a potential thug love duets franchise on his hands (xp)

i agree with Al as well, fwiw

xpost. Well, who else could perform it? If not many people could make it work, I think that testifies to a persona being in place.

― dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Tuesday, December 11, 2012 4:32 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no, it has to do w/ a performance style being in place

Well, the style is the man. Eccentric and sensitive but not nerdy or introvert, ignorant but not macho, etc.

"turn on the lights" has gradually become very heartfelt in my mind, really makes me feel what future's feeling in that way good love songs do even there's nothing 'specific' about their 'persona' per se in the lyrics

*even though there's

"turn on the lights" is incredible heartfelt. if not heartfelt what is that song?

not saying it ain't, just that it took the radio saturation for that to sink in for me

yeah i mean i agree w/ that-- future operates, to me at least, in a way similar to Luther Vandross where he's at once hitting on something very real and true while not actually being a person, i think kelefa w/r/t vandross described him as a disembodied voice or something, a narrator rather than a person

omg future vandross

*changes twitter handle*

I agree that he is difficult to pin down and that his persona is built on contradiction and perhaps some sort of affirmative irony. But that's real and relatable to me.

hes 'relateable' to me in that hes obv a studio rat / music nerd who spends a lot of time working on music & generally improving at his craft & i greatly appreciate that, but i don't see it as the relatable kind of of Capital-Letter-P Persona that most ppl think of when they think of rappers, but then he's not really a rapper anyway

it doesn't bother me, i'm glad music critics are sticking up for him, but i think it explains why his struggle, despite all the hits, has taken a bit longer, and why people might not ever really LOVE him except as an auteur.

i mean, i saw him live a week or two ago, and he was basically a black hole of stage presence & personality. It doesn't make like his music any less, or anything. i'm sure he has a personality, as a human being, he just doesn't have a performative one

Future Vandross!

man i feel like "straight up" is gonna get overlooked in this poll, i voted "neva end" but that one is just so much fun

was listening today and "I'm Trippin'" really caught my ear, they should make that a single now that Juicy J's buzz is up

hes 'relateable' to me in that hes obv a studio rat / music nerd who spends a lot of time working on music & generally improving at his craft & i greatly appreciate that, but i don't see it as the relatable kind of of Capital-Letter-P Persona that most ppl think of when they think of rappers, but then he's not really a rapper anyway

it doesn't bother me, i'm glad music critics are sticking up for him, but i think it explains why his struggle, despite all the hits, has taken a bit longer, and why people might not ever really LOVE him except as an auteur.

i mean, i saw him live a week or two ago, and he was basically a black hole of stage presence & personality. It doesn't make like his music any less, or anything. i'm sure he has a personality, as a human being, he just doesn't have a performative one

― D-40, Tuesday, December 11, 2012 11:13 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well I guess you are right that he's not naturally very charismatic, even if that's not what I mean when I speak about personality or persona. I get the impression that he pours all his personality/intelligence/sensitivity/silliness into the music instead, which is why it's so affecting to me. But I can see it not working as well outside of a studio setting. On the other hand I guess Waka is the most charismatic rapper we have right now, and it isn't helping his career much.

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not saying it ain't, just that it took the radio saturation for that to sink in for me

maybe this explains it, i can kinda hear the heartfeltness but i can't get past not wanting to ever hear it - maybe if i encountered in the wild this would change

'turn on the lights' is so emo I love it

probably why lex hates him tbh

GUYS I JUST HAD A REVELATION

'zan with that lean pt. 2' as interpreted by future

I have the original from the library, need to give it a listen

checking the Future album out of the library, god bless you

hAHAHA

seriously i just saw it while browsing and figured why not

i don't think i've actually heard him yet

(and no, i'm not doing hip hop singles of the year lists for any publications anywhere this year)

I get all kinds of rap at the library, the CDs are always in really good shape

today I found out my sister has "Turn on the Lights" as her ringtone. having a proud brother moment. ^_^

i feel like the absence of a discernable personality or persona is holding him back somewhat

― D-40, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:21 (Yesterday) Permalink

imagine how you would feel if this were a comment on your child's report card

or chaki talking about your ilx performance

voila, milquetoast

even regardless of my aforementioned progress with him in the interim, this is proving to be a better album for the frozen winter than it was for the summer

'truth gonna hurt you', is that hook a reference or interpolation, it seems familiar

I'm still bending my brain around the thought of checking Future out of the library.

'truth gonna hurt you', is that hook a reference or interpolation, it seems familiar

― r|t|c, mercredi 12 décembre 2012 15:54 (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

comes from something cee-lo says on 2nd goodie mob album

hm i wouldnt have known about that

http://youtu.be/SymAYR3F_yo?t=1m56s

Still don't have the same love for this album that most of the regulars here do—loving it means excusing a lot of clumsiness—but it has grown on me a lot over the year. It's been funny seeing how influential it's been, hearing rappers try to imitate the un-imitable. That makes me like the album even more, in a way, since it seems to be setting the stage for a really weird 2013

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Good results.

Voted Straight Up. Love the energy.

would have voted for "Truth Gonna Hurt You"

my fav future verse of the year is prob from 'brick fair'

― tpp, Monday, December 10, 2012 2:08 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark

and i agree with this

yooooo i never heard the deluxe version of the original (pre-3D) version of the album -- "Paradise" is fuckin amazing

^^^ one of my favs on the album for sure

have you heard "Trending Topic", al/

nah don't know that one -- sounds just ok imo

give it some time to grow imo ... its become one of my favorite future songs this year

i like the guitar bits at the end. first time the title Future Hendrix makes a little bit of sense!

yeah its also the first time where the dungeon fam influence felt like it meant something too, feels like a midpt between astronaut music and the country-ish organized noize stuff

http://i.imgur.com/h3jSshi.jpg

^ me irl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFNMzeKsv68

so evil-sounding

i like the beat but i'm not wild about the delivery

seems like i'm alone on this tho

yeah i'm not crazy about it either

totally obsessed with this mixtape track from earlier in the year though. the chorus is just a+

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVhElKNwRuQ

my fav is 'everything's ours'

and 'dna'

'no love' is so dope

'hands on u' actually might be my favorite from this year, forgot about it for a second.

New song
http://www.audiomack.com/song/highbrow-hip-hop/honest

i love this

yeah this is dope

much much better than "sh!t"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4_Luckf5bE

Dunno why deej is so down on that track. The weird flows of "Karate Chop" + the histrionics of "Same Damn Time", what's not to love?

i like that he's experimenting with unique flows like "Karate Chop" and "Sh!t" in theory but i don't really dig those songs at all.

Yeah his delivery is a little too jarring on the hook, verses are nice tho.

The jarring delivery is what makes it work tho

I guess, just need to listen a few more times. I'm sure it will grow on me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAeAp9MzPtk

did we know "honest" got a video? this song owns

"Honest" is definitely a grower. think my favorite of his recent solo tracks is "How It Was" from the GTAV soundtrack though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5tUizzfflI

"honest" + "substitute everything" + "how it was" is a pretty strong run of tracks imo

fire

Future - Memories
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuNY3FZMvjI

-_-

that song is p awesome fwiw

Yah love it

i kind of love this bullshit about the sun and the stars and love with mr. hudson

http://www.complex.com/music/2013/11/future-miley-cyrus-mr-hudson-real-and-true

seriously can't believe he threw mr. hudson on this though, what the fuck man

yeah i love this

first ever uk gig was pretty banging. area near the front was an immense heaving mass of people for the first 20 minutes or so. the nest is such a weird venue to debut him, i guess that speaks to how they're gonna position him or something? big sean sold out shepherd's bush empire last year so i can't imagine future couldn't have filled a venue of that size rather than a tiny dalston basement. future didn't really bother with crowd engagement, left it all to his dj lol

pluto has faded for me over time... has some bangers but a lot of filler imo

his more recent stuff has been a lot better

im just bein onions

i love pluto but also the stuff since and the stuff before

im listening to too confused rn and its a cool style of bouncy casual song like he had on his old tapes eg watch this that pluto didnt really have its one if his coolest styles imo

the only song on pluto i dont really like is u deserve it and the production on permanent scar is more like a mixtape and is kinda jarring next to the super polished expensive sound of the rest of the album

his voice saying woke up in a new bugatti so perfectly embodies the meaning of the lyric its kinda crazy

live bloggin my future 2013 playlist

Pluto holds up well for me compared to the more recent stuff, mostly because Pluto has Future verses and the majority of the songs he's been on since then he just does hooks.

"You Deserve It" is great, one of the top songs on there for sure

I felt really bad panning this album after single after single just grew on me like crazy. But a lot of the filler is so clumsy that I still can hardly listen to it from start to finish.

you deserve it just like the lyrics are so embarrassing

my cousin told me im cool

i panned it at the time too, i also think that's because the album is too long/too much/fillery and there was a lot of off-putting feelings talk about sad future and his sad autotune. have really come round on him as an artist since, did not hesitate to go last night

the album tracks r really cool u guys r crazy #nofiller #allkiller

sad future is cool, all the futures are cool (except u deserve it future) #futuresuperfan

ftr the only bad part of Pluto is Snoop. I forget who posted that "You Deserve It" is about Future giving himself permission to stray from his diet but that has perversely made me like that song a lot

lol

pluto is dope, 'you deserve it' is not my fav song, ive said this before but 'i deserve this' by yung LA is >

1. same damn time
2. parachute
3. magic (remix)

nothing else is worthy

― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, December 10, 2012 1:37 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lex do you still stand by this

I bet none of y’all ever realized turn on the lights has zero curse words at all, it’s literally a 10/10 pop song https://t.co/Nj3YjYhNLB

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