pathetic pusha t moments

ooh forgot to mention "play cloths"

i also don't know enough about the wayne beef to pick out a defining moment. "spirit of competition" i guess?

Releasing stuff unmastered because he thinks his true fans don't care about mastering?

eghk

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/21/Clipse_-_Till_The_Casket_Drops.jpg

still one of my fav rappers somehow, some way

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his hands in the "millions" video

underrated thread

i'm surprised that nobody mentioned how incredibly appropriate the marlo line is for the LP title. (after being disappointed at the poor showing of this poll). like, of COURSE pusha idolizes marlo, maybe the most idiotically hardheaded tv character. pusha also shares marlo's self destructive streak. his bro basically shoving the "walk away with some dignity" in his face and push is like "nooooo but i wanna be faaamous"

some of the lines on the new mixtape along the lines of "i know i'm making all the wrong choices but can everyone just pretend i'm tony montana for a sec". "i am forgiven" is just so painful. it almost becomes compelling in the same way marlo was kind of my fav character on the wire... but even though i'm spending a lot of breath bitching about push here my appetite for trainwrecks has decreased significantly as of late. yeucch

Curren$y was all about "my name is my name" years ago

i never really followed curren$y but from the limited amount i know of him he seems relatively normal and well adjusted? like i get how he might use that line cuz marlo was BA or whatever, but pusha invoking marlo in this case is actually a little spot on. push just exudes this awareness of how ridiculous he is and CONTINUES to run with it. he's a lil special in that way i think

nice manpris, bruh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv4-PveczHA&feature=youtu.be

Wow I missed this poll

i was surprised to learn that their albums have really really high ratings on itunes

left out "i discovered chief keef"

my fav recent one besides the nate ruess pants was him believing that he has young money so shook that "love me" was written because of him

hahahahaha

New single: the antithesis of this poll

i did not expect him to have one of these in him

he sounds mean again.

referring to this I assume...?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7W_iWRxKG0

doin dirt like it's earth day

Those noises/bleeps are a little to loud and distracting but this is awesome overall.

great beat more noises/bleeps on louder on everything

its really aggravating that all rap producers aren't trying to make things this unique all the time.

also earth day's been doin dirt for 43 years >:(

its really aggravating that all rap producers aren't trying to make things this unique all the time.

― paas de la huevo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:19 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

good thing madlib still releases like 100000 things a year

ha was gonna say

:-D

88 jordan leaping from the free throw

is that a silver apples sample?

"Numbers" is FINALLY on iTunes if anyone cares

PUSHA T is peering out from behind EVERY YOUTUBE VIDEO IN THE WORLD.

which qualifies as a pathetic Pusha T moment frankly, like no Pusha, still nothing, I feel nothing

"numbers on the boards" is so lame

Love the beat but Pusha is pretty generic on "Numbers." I even liked the Tyler's Crazy Uncle era better.

This beat is incredible. Love the weird juxtaposition with the cheering.

idg how this could be described as 'so lame'

hmmmmm. so.

http://splicetoday.com/music/three-concerted-rescue-efforts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsgZ16wTjA8

wait, so does all this mean the album is worth listening to? i already wrote it off but maybe ppl are right about it being good?

it has a few stinkers (chris brown, kelly rowland collabs), a couple more that are boring, the rest are bangers

Time for an ILX teaching moment: Can someone explain to me why Pusha is, it seems, generally thought of as a joke? I dug Hell Hath No Fury, paid zero attention since then, but am loving this new album pretty much top to bottom.

haven't given a shit about him in years but my best guess is that he's just one of those dudes who's hopped onto trends in a desperate attempt to stay relevant

i mean industry is filled to the brim with these otherwise unrealistic motherfuckers, good for him that he's getting paid

AS: It dates back, I think, to Clipse's national breakout as a blog favorite at their start and Pusha's monocular focus on drug sales

my boy was trying to tell me the kelly rowland track has pusha doing a "perfect 98 ma$e flow" which i guess is kinda true but is that really what you want people saying about your album?

the mase thing has been in every review i've read. dunno why he does it but it's fairly spot on. but yeah ... odd.

like all sane ppl, i despise Chris Brown but i like his hook on Sweet Serenade. the Rowland song is less successful.

the difference between pusha t and ma$e's voices was never that huge to begin with

Clipse's national breakout as a blog favorite at their start

No.

They had two top 30 hits in 2002 when Stereogum was a LiveJournal, dogg

yeah i was gonna say

Fair enough, will you accept that as "the perception of clipses" etc? Because there was a time.

Throw the words "in nyc" in somewhere if u want

i think that if you want to truly understand the clipse narrative you have to listen to the singularly bleak we got it 4 cheap vol 3, especially the punishing despair in the 4 track stretch from "good morning" to "fuck you." i find it so fascinating how the same tribulations that turned both brothers numb caused malice to go christian and pusha to double down on his bullshit.

"desperate" mentioned upthread pretty much nails it for push i think. for yeeeeears he's squandered immense talent by devoting it all to his need for acceptance. he's spent a comical length of time whining about his lack of mainstream breakthrough. most reasonable human beings would reevaluate their priorities after two uber hyped albums arriving with consecutive thuds (i know consensus was that HHNF was nice, but i think it's boring). funny to think he might finally have it now at the age of like 40. kinda screams pyrrhic victory.

as i've said already i haven't examined his recent breakthrough anywhere near closely but if i did i bet i would see some herzog level irony in the narrative. from what i understand this could be his nic-cage-in-bad-lieutenant moment... grinding away looking increasingly pathetic for wayyyyy too long and all of a sudden the clouds miraculously break and he suddenly gets everything he ever wanted. i mean i guess i have to be happy for the guy but at the same time "euch"

as soon as i began reading that post all i could hear in my head was Patrick Bateman's voice

Ha Al

The album is actually great, overall, kind of a redemption

maybe i should just be happy to come to the record w/o a bunch of Clipse/Pusha baggage...i just enjoy the beats and most of the rapping. simple.

wish he would've ditched a feature or two, but oh well.

this is so great: pusha doing grindin' at sxsw while tyler, earl, taco, etc. rap along like giddy fanboys, and push is clearly appreciative (perhaps overly so, tbh).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PChuT0wnkog

pusha seems pretty likeable to me, and i'm happy he's getting his moment. he deserves a thread with a better name than this one!

"I knows better, get it, I NOSE BETTER"

*giant nose from super sloppy double dare descends from ceiling*

lol

why does everything always have to devolve to super sloppy double dare with you

lol whiney

i'm surprised that nobody mentioned how incredibly appropriate the marlo line is for the LP title. (after being disappointed at the poor showing of this poll). like, of COURSE pusha idolizes marlo, maybe the most idiotically hardheaded tv character. pusha also shares marlo's self destructive streak. his bro basically shoving the "walk away with some dignity" in his face and push is like "nooooo but i wanna be faaamous"

some of the lines on the new mixtape along the lines of "i know i'm making all the wrong choices but can everyone just pretend i'm tony montana for a sec". "i am forgiven" is just so painful. it almost becomes compelling in the same way marlo was kind of my fav character on the wire... but even though i'm spending a lot of breath bitching about push here my appetite for trainwrecks has decreased significantly as of late. yeucch

― cocktail onion (fennel cartwright), Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:48 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i know this isn't a thread for 'the wire', but this characterization of marlo stanfield bugs me, man! like...what show were you watching? is this a british person?

came out of lurk to respond

um... wire spoilers ahead?

it was a bit much of me to call marlo an idiot. he was pretty savvy. i think i was just annoyed by his nihilism. like... what was his endgame? what did he hope to achieve? like, the other kingpin dudes seemed to enjoy being kingpins, even stringer. but marlo always looked like he hated it.

same deal with pusha. i've always found him to be extremely unconvincing when he's "having fun". when he does these tracks like "i'm good" i got a serious uncanny valley creeped outedness. even in that video. i'm sorry, i guess i just refuse to believe that him and tyler the creator are friends.

also im canadian so kind of quasi british i guess. i even said i'm sorry there

i think your overall gist is pretty close to how i feel. especially, like, "my name is my name"...that wasn't a hot line! that was him being foolish! and the other big line of his that people quote, "you want it to be one way, but it's the other way"...i kinda do think the writers wanted him to come off stupid.

I love this thread title so much

i wish it would get more meta

April 24, 2009 - Pusha T is eating cereal and drops his spoon. Spoon is retrieved covered in hair. Pusha T brushes the hair off spoon but does not wash it. Continues eating cereal.

euuuuuch

August 7, 2003 - Pusha T has forgotten his mother's birthday and is reminded of it only because she is calling his cell phone now and he sees her number on the user ID. It is 11:00pm and he had planned on speaking with her earlier but he is tired now. He lets the phone ring and does not pick up.

Literally bags of pusha t

thanks for responding FC.
marlo's nihilistic because american society has basically told him and everyone he knows to die in the gutter/prison. his world is really grim! he keeps relentlessly and joylessly gobbling up power because he can't help himself. it's a personality type that is rewarded here.

i basically imagine the 1% wealthiest people IRL to be as sociopathic and single-minded about power as marlo is, i mean how else could they live with themselves? i don't imagine they're any happier than marlo is, either. just read that article about mitt romney moping around the house after he lost the election.

marlo's basically a test case for what happens when capitalism is completely unregulated...you get some scary ppl running things.

"you want it to be one way, but it's the other way"-the security guard is pleading with marlo for a small measure of dignity and respect for his fellow human being. marlo is saying no, that's not how society works. and i have more money and power than you do, so i'm right.

X: Is it weird that you see coke Rap becoming a type of popular mainstream thing?

Pusha T: Yeah. I was just talking to CNN about coke Rap. And I was like, “Man, that’s so funny, because I know who made that term up.” The person who made that term up was like a blogger who loves Pusha T and Malice for articulate Rap and metaphors and things like that. But to coin it “coke Rap”—to love me for what you love me for and coin it that—is annoying. But it is what it is. They make these subcultures and genres. They didn’t call it coke Rap when Melle Mel was rhyming about the streets and so on and so forth. So it’s whatever.

DX: Well the idea of cocaine went from moving weight to something people stuff in their makeup compact at dance parties…

Pusha T: Yeah, that’s reality. It’s not called, “coke EDM” either. They don’t do that at all.

"King Push" is still an amazing beat, "New Slaves" on steroids

new album is pretty good. kehlani does one of the hooks! beanie sigel shows up!

beanie's voice has become so weird :(

the only song i like is 'got em covered' with ab-liva and an incredible timbaland beat.

sigel did age pretty hard, it's pretty effective in this context tho imo

this is a good beat!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crCFDQyfORM

Production on this whole album is top notch.

i dig this

yeah beanie i didn't recognize at first, i think he's had a hard decade

it is funny though, like if you ghostwrite for someone for so long you sort of unconsciously pick up their verbal mannerisms which i hear a bit on this album -- pusha delivering lines just like kanye would deliver them

i like "f.i.f.a" beat a lot

That's the qtip one!

Pretty good so far but some of the rhymes are stupid.

You have Heems on your year end list

that's how I can spot stupid rhymes

heh heh

Lmao well played. I liked this after a couple listens but that's only judging ~vibes~ and not listening to what he's saying.

this poll is so funny

this thread otoh like pusha t is super lame

man the Timbaland beats on this are his best in forever. 'Untouchable' is so good.

beanie's spot is weird but not upsetting like i was braced for. he sounds a bit like method man it's kinda cool actually

new album is dooooope.

i repeat: Pusha deserves a thread with a better name.

yeah, it's a great record. can't get enough of MFTR.

"Crutches, Crosses, Caskets" and Jill Scott's appearance on "Sunshine" = A+

Album is solid but I don't think it has real standouts, except "Keep Dealing." As far as Timbaland goes, "Untouchable" is good not great, poorly integrated chorus though. "Got Em Covered" is nails on chalkboard.

Idk any big negative reason to single dude out. He's a rapper that gets overpraised by a certain kind of fan and...that's mostly it.

this is pretty good - is every track going to be on "king push" proper?

this seems quite good, and enjoyably surprising - the track with beanie (who sounds bizarre) sounds like it could have been produced by el-p (did he use this sample for someone else?). so i give him props for trying something a bit artier, but im not sure it really gels, and i dunno if i really want to hear pusha going arty. as a rapper, i think hes at the bottom of his barrel at this point and has nothing new to say, or no new way of repeating his usual content in a way we havent heard already.

actually, its more a split between more trad stuff (MPA sounds like something from kanye's dark twisted fantasy) and the slightly outre stuff isnt it...

beans might have had part of his lung removed cut him some slack. voice is still there but not the power. he sounded like this whenever he popped up in 2015.

love the way he can sound conversational, quickfire lock a bunch of lines together with just the tempo or some internal rhyme or hitting the assonance riding the beat and closing with a couplet quotable. never get tired of coke dealing similes, monocle magazine eye for meaningful luxury reference.

FIFA is a jam!

the new song is good, even the jay verse doesn't fuck it up

http://www.complex.com/music/2016/06/pusha-t-wrote-mcdonalds-jingle-im-lovin-it?utm_campaign=musicfb&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&sr_share=facebook

?utm_campaign=musicfb&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&sr_share=facebook

sorry about the huge link. i was posting from iphone and didn't realize

anyways ... pusha t wrote the mcdonald's jingle "i'm lovin it"

just heard this for the first time, it's p good yet a little depressing somehow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPI_6MX74j4

oh guess it was mentioned a bit upthread

http://genius.com/8171721 -- he annotates his own lyrics

Digging Daytona so far!

yeah it's really solid, i like the lean & mean approach. too bad the first track is such a clunker tho

i guess it starts awkward but then once the real beat kicked in i liked it
but yeah the 7 songs approach is good

It's good but he's the Paul McCartney of cocaine.

i think you mean that as a diss but being the paul mccartney of cocaine sounds pretty awesome

also i dig kanye's beats on this more than lots of stuff on tlop or yeezus

I didn't! I should've followed the advice I give students and use semicolons as often as possible.

pusha seems pretty likeable to me, and i'm happy he's getting his moment. he deserves a thread with a better name than this one!

― alpine static, Monday, March 17, 2014 10:19 AM (four years ago)

i repeat: Pusha deserves a thread with a better name.

― alpine static, Tuesday, January 12, 2016 3:18 PM (two years ago)

this is still true!

The verse is one thing but the fact that he unearthed this in the process is just... wow
http://hypb.imgix.net/image/2018/05/origin-of-pusha-t-drake-blackface-photo-the-story-of-adidon-1.jpg

been enjoying the "nardwuar helped" jokes on twitter, though of course he would never strike against a fellow canuck

Yeah a lot of that shit was personal but not "Nardwuar" random and obscure personal

lost in the madness is the fact that "Adidon" is a terrible name for a shoe line and even worse coming from someone who supposedly uses wordplay for a living.

It's magnitudes worse if the bar about him using the line reveal to go public about his son has any truth to it.

I'm all in for this ridiculous moment except for dissing a dude for having multiple sclerosis, but maybe my priorities are fucked up

No I believe it's a healthy reaction, multiple sclerosis sucks.

I'm all in for this ridiculous moment except for dissing a dude for having multiple sclerosis, but maybe my priorities are fucked up

yeah that was below the belt. leave producers out of it!

Is it problematic to post a black face out of context just to draw the ire of someone?

I got the impression that the photos that Drake apparently commissioned himself (!) in blackface never had a very good context to begin with so they're fair game

receipts

So um I have no idea how Drake will respond to this one

the only thing drake can do now is drop a track to make pusha feel bad about hurting his feelings. "you found my blackface pics, man that really scars / i guess the T in Pusha T stands for 'took it too far'"

— demi adejuyigbe (@electrolemon) May 30, 2018

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/pusha-t-on-working-with-kanye-west-on-daytona-meek-mill-w520751

awesome interview, whiney. particularly loled at this part:

What was Wyoming like for you?
I didn't know what to expect, but I knew we were going to work and we were going to get all the work done. Absolutely, positively nothing but focus in a place like that. Totally not a outdoors person, I'm not into it. I'm not into wildlife. I'm not into moose. I'm not into mountain lions. I'm not into foxes, coyotes. I'm not into birds with long wingspans, snakes, hate it all. Hate it all.

Hiking?
Hate it. Not my thing.

How many times have you been camping in your lifetime?
Never. Never camping, never going. What you do is you camp out in these amazing mountain mansions.

pusha sounds like he's got Stockholm Syndrome in all these interviews. i'm kinda surprised Daytona is as good as it is.

“I’m not into birds with long wing spans” killed me lmfao

post very much in display name

Would love to hear the previous version of the album tbh.

^This

I do quite like "The Games We Play," though.

yeah i would love to have whatever King Push looked like 6 months ag AND Daytona

Recent events throw this analysis into very positive light
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYb3RmFREYI

who's the best PR contact for Push

Is the sample on "What Would Meek Do?" from "Heart of the Sunrise"?

Just listened and yes, definitely! From the very beginning, in the little break following the introduction of the main bass riff.

saw push tonight, not bad live!

we’ve got to save him from this good music executive role, though, because there were too many musical montages of his guest spots in the middle of the show instead of full tracks of his own material. at the least his dj could have done more interpolation, maybe lyrics over diff beats

https://i.imgur.com/SivpjBk.mp4

lol

The new Pusha T single with Lauryn Hill and production from Kanye West is such a great track !
(this thread's title is not really appropriate for my post but I didn't find another one about Pusha T...).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bx_r7H7eF8

Really hated that track tbh

I didn't hate it but it's a big blah

Really ? It's certainly one of my favourite Kanye related tracks of the last decade (that doesn't say much though).
And following the Pusha Vs Drake clash, it's kinda funny that Drake had a hit with a L. Hill sample... and now Pusha has L. Hill for real on this !

does it really count as an appearance if everyone's phoning it in?

eheh OK, apparently I'm alone in liking this one !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn0LjF4_5r4

arby's ads now include direct references to cocaine

see also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F__6-ssdNIM

eghck

his new album is just fine

as ever

the variety review is getting dragged, but there's nothing wrong with being sick of pusha's particular thing. where the reviewer went wrong, i guess, is that you shouldn't wish that pusha were a different artist (he clearly will never change), it's that you should listen to somebody else.

yeah

I think you meant “fire,” sir

is the album about painting

painting with white lines, i'm the picasso of these o's.

eghck

I think the new album is pretty great

as ever

same as it ever was

sorry i want pusha t's parenting tips

"#1 - son, be Sosa, not Tony"