How many artists could drop a new album and get as much internet buzz as MBV is right now?

Radiohead? Neutral Milk Hotel? Perhaps the new Bowie?

Dr Dre

D'angelo

If The Smiths dropped an album out of nowhere right this very moment the internet would just die.

oh yeah, I forgot about Dre

motherfuckers act

oh yeah, I forgot about Dre

― frogbs, Monday, February 4, 2013 9:56 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

*facepalm*

Nowadays everybody wanna talk like they got something to say
But nothing comes out when they move their lips
Just a bunch of frogbs

alright, I'm locking this thread

wait, you can't lock your own threads on this site. W.T.F.

wait you mean this whole thread wasn't just an elaborate setup for that joek

Beck? Radiohead?

Neutral Milk Hotel.

Yeah NMH was the only artist I could think of that could potentially generate that type of "holy shit" reaction among those who worshipped Aeroplane their whole lives. MBV was like a perfect storm of an incredibly long wait and a body of work that's actually held up quite well.

Radiohead could do it - the internet pretty much exploded when In Rainbows came out. TKoL was the same I guess but I wonder if that's sort of tapered expectations a bit.

Nine Inch Nails, maybe 5-6 years ago?

destroyer's followup to "kaputt" will probably crash many a site.

PAVEMENT

NMH otm.

Maybe the Pixies?

slint are doing something, right? thought i read that. probably wouldn't be THAT huge though.

oh yes, if Pavement announces there is a release in 2-3 days. then yeah, i can see people getting really really hyped.

i was talking to someone the other day about kate bush and i said if she ever decided to tour in the u.s. it would create riots in the streets. which is hyperbole but i bet she could sell out huge arenas here in minutes. so, she might be able to crash ticket sites anyway. that would be pretty major for millions of people.

The remaining members of Nirvana featuring Paul McCartney.

Kate Bush has been releasing records tho. Touring would be another story.

yeah i know not the same thing but i was just thinking of some out of the blue thing that would freak people out.

Daft Punk

mcartney ringo chris cornell and eddie vedder

im sure if the stone roses had dropped an album instead of reforming for gigs that wouldve created a big buzz

which is hyperbole but i bet she could sell out huge arenas here in minutes.

I love Kate Bush too, but there is no fucking way she would sell out "arenas" at this point, come on.

Stone Roses are sort of unknown over here

and mbv are?

the huge roses gigs sold out in 5 mins here.

points AG to the "who the fuck are Stone Roses?" tumblr

and mbv are?

we could take an informal US poll here or something but yeah I think MBVs legend/fanbase over here is bigger

Considering how much was written about that awful Tron soundtrack I'm sure Daft Punk could break some things

it doesnt really matter as the roses big moment was those gigs. But i assure you it would be a massive deal over here

how about the KLF?

"I love Kate Bush too, but there is no fucking way she would sell out "arenas" at this point, come on."

do you have any idea how many people love her in the states? teenagers on up to oldies like me. LOTS of people who would never think they would ever live to see her live. probably the most popular "cult" artist in the states that i can think of. the only person i can compare her to is tom waits as far as having such a wide-range of fans. from people who have been fans for decades to teens.

you are high

waits doesn't sell out arenas either fwiw

but he has toured for years.

she never has.

Never heard a Kate Bush song, that I'm aware of.

the postal service is playing the brooklyn nets' new arena; pretty sure kate could pull that off. maybe not in pittsburgh or wherever tho

I mean maybe we're working with different definitions of "arenas" here but, fwiw, I don't think even Coldplay sold out all of the arenas they played on their latest tour.

they also tour a lot.

you are underestimating the once in a lifetime angle. she has very devoted fans.

I am pretty sure no person that I know who is not ilx-related has ever heard of kate bush

I think a new pink floyd with roger waters in the band or a new led zep album might break the internet

she has sold millions of records here. she continues to sell a ton of records in her back catalog. and she has never performed live here. you do the math!

is Big Boi on this theoretical tour with her that might sell some more tickets

she could change her name to kate(y) (bush) perry and try and trick teen girls into going to her stadium concert

when they arrive she will explain that she has sold millions of records and performs well on ILM polls

mookie otm -- kate could sell out an arena in some places but probably not others. it's a good answer though. i would purchase all this kate bush tickets.

Danzig fronting the Misfits

okay fine she would sell out a week at madison square garden in record time. is that realistic enough?

like if the same thing happens as with "m b v", if they said "hey we're doing a new album with glen, download it in a few hours

but seriously i think people just don't get how many people love her. even if you don't know any of them.

zep is the best answer tho

nothing sells faster in my store than tom waits, kate bush, and the smiths. and kraftwerk.

and joy division if i ever got any used joy division albums.

i know it's not nearly on the same level, but trying to think of bands for this thread has repeatedly led me back to how stoked i would be if fugazi released a new album.

ABBA?

fairly certain that a sudden White Stripes reunion might at least slow down the internet for awhile.

too soon

yeah ABBA is prob the winner of this contest

The album name is in reference to a quote by Don Henley after the band's breakup in 1980; he commented that the band would play together again "when Hell freezes over."

new Kraftwerk would probably roll some heads

too soon

yeah, i questioned myself on that, but they are just weirdly like uber-revered by these sizable pockets of rockist kids.

The Velvet Underground

Sisters of Mercy

gay dad

I don't think Kate Bush is that popular in the States. Is Hounds of Love even in print here? I've never seen a copy, either used or new, in any record store I've ever been in, and I've always checked. Looks like Amazon only has import copies.

seconding the Velvet Underground

with Metallica

(joek)

xp its not available on spotify in the states either annoyingly

mbv isn't even that big a deal, u just read too much ilx. seems to have been eclipsed by beyonce just about everywhere today

yep

Though I feel like Velvet worship isn't particularly on the upswing at the moment. They don't signify quite what they used to.

JAY Z

The Beatles

I don't think Kate Bush is that popular in the States. Is Hounds of Love even in print here? I've never seen a copy, either used or new, in any record store I've ever been in, and I've always checked. Looks like Amazon only has import copies.

― Rod Steel (musicfanatic)

that's really weird, i would find different record stores to go to.

HOLOGRAM TUPAC

The Velvet Underground was the first name I thought of, but when at least one original member is dead--and you might say two in their case, if you count Nico--it's just not the same. Maybe that wouldn't matter to most people, but it would to me.

mbv isn't even that big a deal, u just read too much ilx. seems to have been eclipsed by beyonce just about everywhere today

i feel like these are two different things

nickelbacque

Nirvana reunion would be pretty big

Oh, Aphex Twin. If he called it Selected Ambient Works Vol. 3 it would be buts.

*nuts

buts?

Kate Bush has only one album that's been certified gold in the U.S. (The Sensual World), and her highest-charting album (The Red Shoes) topped out at #28.

FWIW

Zombie Bob Marley

The Velvet Underground was the first name I thought of, but when at least one original member is dead--and you might say two in their case, if you count Nico--it's just not the same. Maybe that wouldn't matter to most people, but it would to me.

― clemenza, Monday, February 4, 2013 6:06 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If they reunited with Yule AND Cale, I'd be all over that. Mainly because it would lessen the chances of Lou singing lead on everything.

Sly Stone

I mean we got Chinese Democracy, Smile, and a new MBV album - the 21st century is on a roll. I expect a brilliant collection of insane Sly Stone trailer jams to emerge eventually.

would like to think that among the discerning folk of ILX, Talk Talk would have this effect

how would a sex pistols album do?

ewww

actually never mind. expecting the internet to care about a new sly stone album is about as crazy as scott's kate bush stadium tour.

people might care more if he hadn't spent the last decade disappointing expectations

plus his voice is totally shot

the police? the jam? can?

Subway Sect.

people might care more if he hadn't spent the last decade disappointing expectations

uh... MBV?

At one time I might have said the New York Dolls, which shows you how easy it is to confuse your own sense of a band's place in history with the rest of the world's--they put out a new one (and then another) and nobody cared. Plus, again, too many dead people. I'd like to think a new Husker Du album would be a big deal, but that's probably a fantasy too.

uh... MBV?

Sly fucking up his live shows, hiding out in a trailer, etc. seems kind of on a different level than what MBV did. to me, anyway.

Blur, btw

"Kate Bush has only one album that's been certified gold in the U.S. (The Sensual World), and her highest-charting album (The Red Shoes) topped out at #28."

she's been selling records every day here for decades though. it adds up.

I really don't think it does add up actually

you guys don't get it, scott has personally sold 1 million Kate Bush albums

mbv isn't even that big a deal, u just read too much ilx. seems to have been eclipsed by beyonce just about everywhere today

― flopson, Monday, February 4, 2013 6:00 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

yeah... the answer to this question is, like, 50% of the bands that get best new music on pitchfork in any given year. MBV didn't even have as much buzz as frank ocean or kendrick lamar. the vampire weekend and phoenix albums will have more buzz. so will the new arcade fire album. just to name a few.

I honestly do think that the cult of The Smiths goes well beyond Pitchfork and indie nerds.

Yeah, sorry but this sounds insane to me:

okay fine she would sell out a week at madison square garden in record time. is that realistic enough?

xposts

i feel like a kate bush tour would be successful on a leonard cohen level, which is to say a rousing success but on a smaller scale.

I'd be pretty surprised if she were as popular in North America as Leonard Cohen, actually.

if only janis joplin had blown her

i'd read that fanfic

yo I'm late to this party but the only town in the US Kate Bush might fill an arena in would be NYC and the max nights she'd sell it out would be 2

Shame the Brian Wilson Beach Boys reunion album didn't shut the internet down.

kate bush would fill the skot coliseum for a fortnight

i bet kate could draw v. large crowds in LA, Chicago, maybe Seattle or Portland?

The Smiths are definitely waaaaaay beyond indie nerds in the U.S. by this point, especially after their placement in stuff like 500 Days of Summer and its ilk. New album from them would be huge.

morrissey already plays at MSG I think? recall seeing his face on a screen when I walked by.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/earshot/morrissey-vegetarian-coachella-375108

i can remember how crazy the '98-'99 version of the internet got when morrissey and marr were in the same courtroom together for a few days

yeah... the answer to this question is, like, 50% of the bands that get best new music on pitchfork in any given year. MBV didn't even have as much buzz as frank ocean or kendrick lamar. the vampire weekend and phoenix albums will have more buzz. so will the new arcade fire album. just to name a few.

my original idea was to restrict this to ILX but every music board I know of has been blowing up over this

Boards of Canada

"you guys don't get it, scott has personally sold 1 million Kate Bush albums"

i've sold at least a hundred! in four years...

I'm really glad they went that route. It fits the album. If there had been endless Pitchfork pieces building up for a month beforehand it would have inflated the hype bubble. It's a more personal approach. The only way you could get to it was through their website. The web traffic delayed things a bit and you had communities building up of people talking about it, like a digital version of an early morning record store line. I hope reviewers taken into account the way they released this because I'm sure it was heavily weighed upon.

u.s. soundscan numbers from 1991 to 2006. so, no sales numbers prior to 1991 or post 2006. around 1.2 million in that fifteen year period. so, you figure from the 70's until 1991 how many records? and from 2006 until now how many records?

The Kick Inside 74,000 (01/2006)
Lionheart 28,000 (01/2006)
Never for Ever 39,000 (01/2006)
The Dreaming 42,000 (01/2006)
Hounds of Love 206,000 (01/2006)
The Whole Story 195,000 (01/2006)
The Sensual World 242,000 (01/2006)
The Red Shoes 298,000 (01/2006)
Aerial 102,000 (08/2006)

probably at least another million or so in the times not documented. maybe more. plus, itunes and the like now. plus, secondary sales like my store. if i've sold 100 in four years in my tiny shop other stores must sell a ton more and i don't even sell used CDs much so if you count those sales she's sold at least 400,000,000 records in this country if my calculations are correct.

ilu (and her) man but no

seems legit

xp

conservative estimate there, scott

seriously though, people are hyped about this MBV record because, irrespective of how it sounds or how many years have lapsed, it's the followup to Loveless that people anticipated with bated breath before finally resigning themselves to never hearing. people were conceptualising the album in their heads before it was a product. it's to do with the journey and stigma of the album itself, which by this stage is actually a seperate entity from the actual aura of the band. MBV's live shows don't get anywhere near this level of attention; their show here in Sydney (which is hilariously going for $100) hasn't even sold out. i can't imagine people flipping out about a hypothetical "long-awaited follow-up to Strangeways" on anywhere near the same level. the Smiths actually reforming? now that would be a big deal, but people would get used to the idea pretty quickly.

mbv isn't even that big a deal, u just read too much ilx. seems to have been eclipsed by beyonce just about everywhere today

― flopson, Monday, February 4, 2013 6:00 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, funny thread. hmm, wonder which artist would create more buzz, neutral milk hotel or kanye west

haha

smiths reforming would just be sad. plus mozzy's greaser gang bands can probably do smiths better anyway. i'm assuming he still has greaser gang bands. haven't kept in touch...

there are literally millions of people who eagerly await new pearl jam albums! we just don't know who they are.

kate bush/pearljam vs lou reed/metallica

i would be more interested in a bush/reed album tbrr

pearl jam's last album sold millions around the world and they put it out on their own label. and they have deals with tons of companies. and they tour forever. they are REALLY saving for their retirement. they are no slackers even if they speak to the slack. and yet so easily avoidable. kudos, PJ!

jesus no keep lou away from kate.

kate/bunnybrains amirite

ilx dream date would be scott walker/kate bush. beauty and the beast.

my brother jams with meshelle n. sometimes. that's his brush with female genius power.

power trio dammit!

I haven't heard Backspacer but Pearl Jam from 2006 was really good!

New Eels out today, eclipsed.

Uncle Tupelo would get this same level of just-below-SNL craziness.

harry connick jr. and chris stamey also very pissed that they were upstaged like this:

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/albums/release-date/coming-soon/date?view=detailed

boards of canada, as noted above, is a very reasonable answer. there's that distance of release, obviously, but i can't argue for groups like the smiths as i know *exactly* what their next release would roughly sound like. with BoC, you get that it'll retain their most classic elements and yet at the same time - especially considering the leap to acoustic-infusion with their last release - you have little idea of what to expect. the only bands that can stir this kind of momentum are ones that are self-consciosly progressive.

new matmos and bret michaels albums so synergistically close to each other though. good for both parties.

I'm thinking maybe A Tribe Called Quest

Many interesting suggestions on this thread and many lols.

The correct answer is "none". No one could do this in the same way as MBV, because we haven't been promised the new full length for two decades from anyone else. The closest name already mentioned is Aphex, if only because he's dropped hints at having this vintage arsenal of tracks to unleash, you know, one of these days, they're just sitting there in the vaults. No one else has been slavishly working out the kinks for so long that they haven't put out an lp every once in a while, reformed, or just simply said "no" like MBV has.

they haven't put out an lp every once in a while (Kate Bush), reformed (Pavement), or just simply said "no" (Smiths, ABBA)

The level of devotion from the Loveless follow-up is a horse of a different colour from Chinese Democracy or Smile, but despite the comically heavy interest for these I wonder why? Why didn't they break the internet?

Because they weren't released on the Internet?

The correct answer is "none".

lol. jay-z had more buzz off an album when he was retired for like 4 years.

Chinese Democracy broke Best Buy, and Long Road Out of Eden broke Wal-Mart.

Whereas this is the biggest digital release since In Rainbows, no?

or maybe since the third girl talk album

meek mill's dreamchasers 2 has been downloaded 3.8 million times off datpiff alone, let's see what numbers MBV do http://www.datpiff.com/Meek-Mill-Dreamchasers-2-mixtape.339288.html

lol. jay-z had more buzz off an album when he was retired for like 4 years.

Yeah, completely off the map in the public eye, with only the occasional cryptic interview, and leaving Shields to low profile collab releases w Linkin Park and R Kelly in the interim.

yeah MBV has been completely out of the public eye, what with people elevating them to god status and then writing tomes about their album

Dude, to be fair, I'm only nominally interested in MBV's music (and Jay-Z's) but the crosstalk both online and irl is sorta deafening, and it's honestly pretty weird cos I've heard chatter from the shoegaze camp amongst my friends at a level equiv to duck farts across a lake for years re mbv's amazing new long awaited tuneage

right. well in my neck of the woods, this album is getting as much burn as any old album that drops with a 24-hour lead time.

and anyway, only in rock music can a band peace out for 2 decades and still come back as if they walk on water. a rapper or pop artist couldn't pull a stunt like this because people would cease to give a shit after a certain point way, way before 20 years.

popper

xp Good points. Artists in the future are going to have a far slimmer era of interest to fall off the radar then phoenix again, since the important peeps prob won't have full blossom careers that extend so long, regardless of genre (rock is fucking dead i've heard)

Elvis Presley

Beethoven

d'angelo and maxwell and sade push the limits of my theory a bit but at least as far as the latter two go, their recent career revivals of happened almost completely outside of the internet

what about lauryn hill?

talking heads and steely dan (?) by ilx standards

sonic youth after a 10-year hiatus

lauryn... maybe. fugees reunion was a dud tho.

when lauryn announced a tour, not even new material, it got this much buzz, which = a hell of a lot among people who already care about her, but outside that you could happily ignore it. what a weird thread. j0rdan otm about how any given band with a passionate fanbase could do this.

also are people really bringing up kate bush's sales to make the point that she's not as big a deal as...MY BLOODY VALENTINE? smh

Outside of indie music circles, nobody gives a fuck. This is not like the Bowie thing the other week, or anywhere near close to In Rainbows dropping, which was all over breakfast TV in the UK.

seems bigger than the Bowie thing from the other week...?

somebody mentioned SNL earlier itt: think they got a shot at appearing this season?

The Bowie thing was all over mainstream media; this is very much saturation in a certain demographic's sphere, but little beyond that. There's also an amount of instant criticism here - because we can actually listen to the full record - that wasn't there with the Bowie thing, because that was only a single.

also are people really bringing up kate bush's sales to make the point that she's not as big a deal as...MY BLOODY VALENTINE? smh

I was bringing it up to refute Scott's point that Kate Bush could sell out arenas across the U.S.

But I'm guessing she's still better-known here than MBV is, since she's at least had a couple of minor hits.

Reformed Husker Du with all original members would attract some interest.

Based on the love the limited semi-reunion dates received, I would think a new Faith No More album would garner some buzz. Even more if Jim Martin was involved.

Maybe a Guns N' Roses reunion with the real line-up and not just fat Axl.

Talking Heads, for sure.

I'll cede that it's rare for an act to disappear for as long as MBV did and have a new release be treated by most of its fans as a serious artistic statement in continuation with its legacy, rather than just a greed- or nostalgia-motivated attempt to recapture something of the past. But that doesn't mean those other attempts wouldn't get way more people excited.

The La's

lol

somebody mentioned SNL earlier itt: think they got a shot at appearing this season?

― Drugs A. Money, Tuesday, February 5, 2013 4:23 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark

hell no

A new Avalanches LP would be pretty big, right?

only in rock music can a band peace out for 2 decades and still come back as if they walk on water. a rapper or pop artist couldn't pull a stunt like this because people would cease to give a shit after a certain point way, way before 20 years.

hence rock music = THE BEST!

yes j0rd, we know pop/rap fans hv the att spans of tsetse flies.

what's our kevin been up to these eight years

happy tenth everyone

Man that was a wild ride.

<3

what's our kevin been up to these eight years

mixing it hot

everything has to be absolutely perfect. also loveless sounds best over a boombox though, so it's a balance between those two things

i love mbv and i love kevin shields, but he is one of the worst influences a musician could possibly have

Just listened to this album for the first time... I liked it! The tracks are a little repetitive, but they're cool and sound great. It's not really what I was expecting, from the band's rep.