List of overrated bands

1 The Rolling Stones. To me they are no more than just overrated jerks who write melodically dead emotionally dry music. The most overrated band I know of, actually. The Rolling Stones receive way too much praise and credit for everything from influence to the quality of their hooks. I'd give them a one at best. That said, there are a bunch of Stones songs that I do like (even a couple that I love) and I can easily say Beggar's Banquet is a really good album, but for the most part they really leave me cold. Sorry, this is just how I feel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOyw6Q8qWpM

2 The Smiths have a handful of tracks that I like (Cemetery Gates, There Is A Light, and a few others), but I find it so difficult to get over my hatred of Morrissey that I can't bring myself to get into them.

3 Metallica - I'm sorry but they have just plain sucked since 1990, and even their first 4 albums had nothing on bands like Dark Angel and Slayer.

4 Queen are one of the most overrated bands in modern history if you ask me. Ever listened to their "Best Of"? There are the usual suspects, plus 80% pure fillers.

5 Nirvana - Wow... basic chord changes and suicidal lyrics, how profound.

6 outkast - but only cuz idlewild broke my heart

7 Mars Volta - Dull, overwrought, pretentious crap. An incredibly overrated "prog" band, its just noise that useless teenages praise as experimental genius.

8 Billy Joel - Piano Man and Scenes From an Italian Restaurant are good songs, but that's about it. Piano rock was never cool in my book.

9 Merzbow - I don't like this guy's music. There is a total lack of quality control, and I don't want to spent countless hours of my life trying to get the industrial/noise gems. But, after watching the Beyond Ultra Violence documentary, although I think that this guy is more pretentious than Emerson, Lake and Palmer together, I really respect the guy.

10 Pearl Jam - First of all, the band's name is a blatant rip-off of the arcade game "NBA Jam." Second, the initials of the band's name is PJ. Mess up there guys? Third, it doesn't help a band when their fans cannot understand one word in their songs. And fourth, this band cannot be very good if I do not know one of their songs. And that is saying something, because Pearl Jam is the most overplayed, overloved, and overrated band in the history of music.

haw

11 Tool. You know I dissed 50cent on here and nobody cared. I could make threads about Zeppelin or Sabbath or the Beatles or the Red Hot ****ty ****ers or the Cure or Henry Rollins or the Manic Sheep Treaters with no responses. If you made a thread about the Smiths calling them a bunch of bequiffed pretentious gays I may not even respond. The venom with which some people have leaped to the defense of this band only serves to support my charge that they are a band for pretentious people, by pretentious people.

12 Aphex Twin - My thoughts on techno music like Aphex Twin is that it's music for people on drugs. But all those pops, whirrs, and clicks that sound so awesome and explode in your head when you're buzzed on good weed sound really repetitive to me when I'm sober. It's usually just four measures of one repetitive techno line followed by four measures of the same line with another sound effect added in, followed by four measures of the previous line with yet another sound effect layered on - this is what it sounds like to me. I can't see any appeal to it at all beyond listening to it when you're high.

13 Goatwhore - I just don't like Goatwhore sorry guys!

14 Massive Attack - Take Horace Andy/Shara Nelson/Liz Cocteau out and I barely like any of their stuff and the last couple of albums were wretched. Tricky is a totally useless knobhead as well.

15 Radiohead - Never really got what the fuss was about. When I asked someone to compare them to another band, they said "Muse". So, I think I'll stick with Muse.

16 Christgau represents the worst of rock and pop criticism. He displays blatant biases and provides no objective supporting criteria to back up his insults. He hates metal, progressive rock, bluegrass...etc and expects that his word be treated as musical law. He's a rude, insulting, pretentious rock critic elitist who thinks he's god's gift to rock music and cultural criticism. The man knows nothing of music and has no place writing about it. He is merely a failed fiction writer with a small vocabulary and large ego to boot. This man is truly the definition of failure

17 Mozart - He doesn't even make my top-ten. Beethoven, Bach, Berlioz, Vivaldi, Handel, Haydn, Stravinsky, Schubert, Brahms and Chopin were all better composers. Being a "child prodigy" does not necessitate lifetime greatness and that was certainly true in Mozart's case. Was he "good"? Of course. But was he deserving to be mentioned in the same breath as Beethoven or Bach? Not a chance in hell.

The verdict is in: Mozart was overrated.

Red Hot ****ty ****ers

???

Red Hot Charity Fundraisers

why is there two same threads?

note to self:
Nilmar is not pretentious and is better than Bob'gau

Prince - there, i said it.

so who is going to drop the mbv bomb ...

18 Portishead - In 1994 Portishead emerged from Bristol's thriving trip-hop scene with a haunting and atmospheric debut album entitled 'Dummy'. At the time I thought the album was incredible - with Beth Gibbon's 'witchy woo' vocals and the spooky sci-fi samples. However, some 11 years later, 'Dummy' sounds dated and stale. The sign of a truly great album is surely one that sounds as good today as it did when it was first released.

19 Sly and the Family Stone - There's A Riot Goin' On: Like listening to a drunken party through a sack full of mud. If this is political funk, I ain't votin' for it!

20 The Beatles - manufactired pap from 4 whining nasal scouse proicks none of whom would be fit to hold Ray Davies' plectrum.

16 Christgau represents the worst of rock and pop criticism. He displays blatant biases and provides no objective supporting criteria to back up his insults. He hates metal, progressive rock, bluegrass...etc and expects that his word be treated as musical law. He's a rude, insulting, pretentious rock critic elitist who thinks he's god's gift to rock music and cultural criticism. The man knows nothing of music and has no place writing about it. He is merely a failed fiction writer with a small vocabulary and large ego to boot. This man is truly the definition of failure

OTM.

21 Genesis - there's a theme developing here - 1970s prog rock should be a dark secret that's swept nder the carpet never, ever to see the light of day. If paedophiles were music they would be a Genesis cover version with a side order of Pink Floyd.

The worst is when he doesn't even spend his 10-word quota on a release and just uses his bomb/scissor icon. Yeah, that's really advanced music criticism, dude. Go fuck yourself.

22 little feat - people started listening to them before i did

23 My Bloody Valentine's 'Loveless'. Inexplicably feted as some sort of 20th century classic by just about everyone - awful, ear-numbingly tuneless dirges in my book.

24 Stereolab - Stereolab is french for "overrated."

25.The most over rated music artist of ALL TIME : Jimmy Buffet hands down, why do people keep giving this guy money to play the same stupid songs? He is way too rich and arrogant already.

26 Boards of Canada - Sure, they have some cool melodies, but there is no evolution in any of their tracks. It's the same loop all the way through. They surely know their way around a drum machine, as I find a lot of their beats funky. And the interludes...they don't add anything to the listening experience.

Just my .02

Dave Matthews Band: Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Overrated.

27 The Velvet Underground. The Who pretty much wrote the first power ballad with Behind Blue Eyes. And just because they didn't use "big" words or could articulate their musical goals like Cale or Lou Reed, doesn't make Moon, Daltrey, or Entwhstle any less instinctual of musical geniuses. Just less pretentious in my book. I don't see Townsend as any more pretentious than Lou Reed.

28 tortoise. mcentire is better in sea & cake

29 The Doors. With the exception of "LA Woman" and "The End" (and thats mainly cos Apocalypse Now used it to great effect), this band were boring session musician noodly bollocks with a fat drunk who spouted a bunch of gibberish that everyone mistook for profundity

30 Foo Fighters (I'm sorry but theres too many festival goers/Kerrang! readers that love this band soooo much that they say they're a religion or something.)

31 Radiohead. I'm sorry but I just don't see what the big deal is. Sure, they have a few songs that I do generally enjoy, but I just don't get them at all.

32 Michael Jackson? I'm sorry but he IS overrated to me....overhyped too.

And...I don't like the Red Hot Chili Peppers either (Flea as a name?? yeesh...)

33. Green Day

Before American Idiot, Green Day was an impressive young band, blending pure punk with delicious melodies, cranking out songs such as Brain Stew and Good Riddance. But after 2004, they ceased to be a band and became a franchise. It was no longer a musical entity as much as a stadium-selling appearance. Dozens of bands tried to follow their example and are partially responsible for the dearth in punk rock today.

34. Dave Brubeck: Just got this CD. It's supposed to be one of the most commercially successfully jazz CD ever. But I didn't hear a track that is instantly likeable, other than Take Five. So how can it be so commercially successful? As a matter of fact, it sounds more like an audiophile demo disc. What gives?

35 U2. THERE. I SAID IT. U2 is overrated. OH EM GEE! Blasphemy! And I’m not just saying it to cause a kerfuffle in hopes of increased readership. That’s just bonus

36 The Beatles are overrated. There I said it. someone had to. That's all I've been hearing on the news lately. 40th anniversary this and that. Who cares.

37 Pink Floyd - some legitimately great tunes, but Comfortable Numb sucks. There, I said it.

37 hipsters playing continuous sounds of farts while repeating the same line or profanities for the whole 3-4 minutes and call it the New Age of Music.

38. Pavement.Everywhere I look there are rave reviews for the band Pavement. All the critics seem to love them. Well, I actually listened to them for the first time yesterday and it was sad. The guy can't sing, he doesn't even try. They're instrumental is boring, depressing

damn took this long to get an ilx result

39 the replacements are not so good. i don't have any husker du, but I love "Beaster" by Sugar. Much better than the polished, overrated "Copper Blue".

Someone explain what's so good about the replacements. sounds like a load of hoary cock-rock drivel to me...

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 20 February 2003 10:20 (9 years ago)

40. the muthafucggin' beach boys.
do i really to explain why ?
i live in wet rain soaked england.
what the fuck do i care about some beautiful people enjoying the sunshine and cars and women ..
and those vocals. jeez loiuse. for the love of the monkees, please stop harmonising ..

41.Hüsker Dü- A lot of actually good bands name check them. I wonder if those bands realize they are probably way better than these guys? My problem with really lo-fi bands is that the sound quality is just so crappy that they have to be really good to produce enjoyable music. I guess it's almost unfair to judge them on the same scale. But I will anyways.

42 "Coldplay - music for people who don't like music"
About 138 results (0.15 seconds)

43 Jeff Goldblum wtf's up with this guy

44 Bill Pullman whats this guy think he's the president or some shit

45 Randy Quaid when he says "i'm baaaack" and i'm all like smh facepalm

46 Judd Hersch could he say "my son david" a few more times?

47. Public Enemy.Ok first of all, im no one to criticise seeing as that I havent actually havent listened to much Public Enemy, but from what i've heard they're just OK. I think Chuck D has some good rhymes but Flavor Flav wasn't really doing much for the group hence them in my opinion being over rated.

48 That dude who played Data on Star Trek the next generation

49 Arcade Fire
Intervention (Merge)

Now, as a shallow, undereducated hick who could never hope to understand the long words on Pitchfork Media or a fraction of Win Butler's complex reality, the only level on which I can relate to Intervention is as an above-average song from a disappointing second album by a massively overrated band. And one which features an organ, for which there can surely be no place in pop music. But don't listen to me; I'm so ill-refined I'm about to be nice about Good Charlotte.

nb the guardian paid 'dan martin' to write that

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he is very purple

50 Barney the Dinousar. It astounds me that this series has been running for about two decades now and hasn't gone extinct yet. I concur with others who think the same. It's high time for this to end now. I don't know if I can truly consider it overrated. Overrated by who? Other than the majority of children maybe. Surely not us older viewers. But it definitely has been overexposed for the longest.

51. The beatles are not the only sucky band, but they are the worst sucky band overrated and propganda-d (is this a word?) into morons of the world. They also ripped off the Rutles. The only thing good about the beatles is Yoko Ono. She broke them up early.

(I also refuse to capitalize the beatles. That would infer some form of importance.)

Actually when the beatles first came over they had some harmony and a little bit of talent, singing mostly happy, peace, and love songs. Then they quickly got drugged out, started to really suck, and sing mostly about drugs and being stoned. This is funny because a lot of beatles fans will get enraged and threaten to kill you if you say they suck; ergo to reiterate about the peace and love theme of the beatles.

What I hate about them most are the brain dead retarded drugged out dirty hippies whose only arguments are they were the greatest band ever, and they influenced ALL music forever with no facts or evidence. Then they call you a brain dead retard just for simply saying you don't care for the beatles.

4 British panzies with the help of the media and advertising did all of this in just a few years.

Now I know how Clinton and Obama got into office!

I'm starting to wonder whether or not Nilmar loves music.

52 never really got kiss. 'the elder' is okay though i guess

53 The Rolling Stones. To me they are no more than just overrated jerks who write melodically dead emotionally dry music. The most overrated band I know of, actually. The Rolling Stones receive way too much praise and credit for everything from influence to the quality of their hooks. I'd give them a one at best. That said, there are a bunch of Stones songs that I do like (even a couple that I love) and I can easily say Beggar's Banquet is a really good album, but for the most part they really leave me cold. Sorry, this is just how I feel.

54 the police. i mean "don't stand so close to me '84," really?

5 Nirvana - Wow... basic chord changes and suicidal lyrics, how profound.

Many of Nirvana's chord progressions were pretty non-standard. Even on a poppier track like "Lithium", the modal mixture is pretty clever.

55. Sex Pistols- Manufacted by Malcolm McLaren. They were basically talentless but very stage-managed. They had maybe two decent songs "Anarchy" and "God Save the Queen", but when you compare them to the Clash it's like comparing Kid Rock to Beastie Boys; one has a smidgen of talent and new ideas and the others are the real thing. The band's reunion tour shred whatever integrity or punk attitude they had left and made me respect the Clash more for refusing to do one.

56 Elvis Presley - the king? NOT! I'm sorry, this one I really don't see what's all the big deal about...he didn't do something new, something revolutionary! what he did whas something that a lot of black guys did before him! only cause he was white and all the little girls screamed for him made him famous! I mean he even didn't wrote his own fucking songs! 100% overrated

57 Miles Davis where did this guys learn to play their instruments? Walmart? maybe they should try tuning their guitars BEFORE recording the album. the material is lacking. this band displays a deficit in quality with mix of atonal rhythms and eclectic presentation while their overall structural foundation has proven essential to the ecology of musical landscape all across the board i would give all albums an absolute one star if not the worst i have heard this year.

58. Johnny Cash- this guy thinks he can rap now?

59. John Coltrane - "I ran through a bunch of scales for 40 minutes! Make me a saint!"

This reminds me of about 1,000 different threads from 2001

@moodles : and thats a bad thing ???

was that not the supposed glory years of ilm ..

60. The Glory Years of ilm- A bunch of Belle & Sebastian fans talking about FAPs

61 The Clash made 3 good albums then disappeared up their own arseholes and I'd argu that supporting The Who on a US stadium tour was not the act of a spokesman of generation

62 Oasis,on the other hand,are a crap Beatles tribute band who didn't evolve at all,but disappeared up their own arseholes in a blizzard of coke.

63 spacemen 3

64. The Spice Girls are very lucky and very overrated. None of them can sing and their music is not half as good as Girls Aloud's. Spice Girls appealed to little girls. It wasn't good music - mums would buy the albums for their kids - it was all about the gimmicks.

otm ...

65. Cheryl Cole. She has been the most overrated GA member ever since she got arrested for hitting a black lady in a toliet just after the band became famous.

66. Taylor Swift. I find the allegedly refreshing and honest lyrics of Taylor Swift repellant and artificial, as if thought up by a middle-aged Swedish guy with a coke and Ritalin problem, and if I had to listen to them for long I would probably have to run screaming from the room. There is nothing in this music that does anything new besides fusing together a mandolin with a programmed drum track, and so I say it is inert, like the flattened squirrel, manufactured, ungenuine.

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67 The Rolling Stones. To me they are no more than just overrated jerks who write melodically dead emotionally dry music. The most overrated band I know of, actually. The Rolling Stones receive way too much praise and credit for everything from influence to the quality of their hooks. I'd give them a one at best. That said, there are a bunch of Stones songs that I do like (even a couple that I love) and I can easily say Beggar's Banquet is a really good album, but for the most part they really leave me cold. Sorry, this is just how I feel.

68 My answer? Because the best club in the world put all their eggs in the Lionel Messi basket, and the Argentinian wonderboy is vastly overrated.

Again and again, Messi is given too much credit, too much confidence, and he just barely doesn't make it over the bar. He does enough to wow you, but whether it's the World Cup, Copa America, La Liga or the Champions League, Messi just can't switch it into a higher gear.

Does Lionel Messi deserve all the blame for Barcelona's preemptive—and slightly embarrassing—exit from the Champions League? No.

Does he receive too much praise? Are people too quick to gush over him? Is he overrated?

Join me as I present to you the five biggest reasons why I think the answer is yes.

69

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Why Radiohead is just not good
By Benny Lo
December 1, 2000

I just got through listening closely to Radiohead’s newest pretentious opus, Kid A, and I can safely state, as well as scientifically prove, why exactly it is a heaping loaf of shit.

You have to work at albums like "Kid A." You have to sit at home night after night and give yourself over to the paranoid millennial atmosphere as you try to decipher elliptical snatches of lyrics and puzzle out how the titles might refer to the songs. In other words, you have to be sixteen. . . There is nothing wrong with making albums for sixteen-year-olds, but Radiohead’s previous efforts had more inclusive ambitions.

70 Muse are an overrated monotonous dirge, every oceansize song is different and interesting, which constitutes 'staying power'.

why do you need to feel the need to slag off oceansize then? To me it sounds as if you've hardly listened to their stuff (too much going on for you?) and probably haven't seen them live.

Pigeonholing is so childish and btw, have you heard much of Muse and Coopers lately? no I thought not, how about Oceansize? Oh right, a brilliant new album and a fresh tour to promote a new single.

Fp'd u for oasis

deems m8 u should of realized this thread is strictly meta/bantz

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Bands that people drool over, who you think are crap...
I don't see what the fuss is about - and I have quite a wide eclectic taste in music - with:

Pink Floyd
Depeche Mode
Bob Dylan
Radiohead

With the exception of a couple of songs each (except Radiohead - which is all just a depressing durge), I just don't get why people go nuts over them...

So - who do you find crap when everyone else seems to hero-worship...?

Im not unaware but you will have yourself become aware that bantz dont excuse everything

Wtf no dylan til now btw

shaun ryder/stone roses/dylan not so much overrated as just outright awful.

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 10:39 (5 years ago)

71 The Studio - West Coast

2/3 aint bad

72 Premier League - Its very overrated and the England national team is also overrated. Due to the media. The premier league is falling out of touch.The majority of top players around the world play in Spain or Italy and English teams performed extremely poorly in the cl. Man united are also relying on both Giggs and Scholes who are practically ancient.

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nice

White people

One Direction
Justin Bieber
Not white but Kim Kardashian

NWBKKOTB

either way I always feel like BoC's music creeps me out like 20% as much as they want it to, "Color of the Fire" excepted. which is ultimately why I feel they're massively overrated.

― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:25 (10 months ago)

73 For me, the most pretentious, overrated band of all time is REM. God, they're dull and Stipe is almost as big a pretentious, overblown tit as Bono.

74 I got some Ramones stuff and I listened to it a good bit and I just did not like it AT ALL. Seems fairly rubbish, tbh.

Which brings me to something else that SERIOUSLY gets on my tits...

People who know nothing about music wearing t-shirts of rock bands.

75 Nirvana

Probably the most overrated band of all time. Kurt Cobain couldn't play guitar, nor could he sing, and could barely write.

His skill at guitar was so pathetic and limited that he was only able to play power chords and his guitar solos consisted of only two strings as a maximum. As a vocalist, he had a scratchy voice with a one-octave range. His vocal range was so horrible that he wasn't even able to hit the high notes when he covered the Meat Puppets' song "Lake of Fire". He often ripped off other bands (Killing Joke, The Breeders, The Pixies, Husker Du, Meat Puppets, Butthole Surfers etc.) and based his sound on their own. He even went as far as to steal a riff from Killing Joke's "Eighties"; changed it up a bit, and then used it for his own song "Come As You Are".

He was also an awful lyricist and most of his music consisted of simple wordplay that had no real meaning.

For example, let's take a look at a verse from "All Apologies":

"I wish I was like you. Easily amused. Find my nest of salt. Everything's my fault. I'll take all the blame. Aqua-seafoam shame."

And honestly, that has got to be some of the worst lyrics I've ever heard ...

carpathian_dark_princess wrote:
*Le Gasp* You are bold! But I shall tell.

To put it broadly, I'll try any genre at least once, but of course, I like some genres more than others. In the gothic spectrum, what drew me to the music of the subculture wasn't classic gothic rock, like I stated above. It just didn't seem too mysterious to my taste. I was drawn into the gothic subculture mainly by the influences from the Victorian Period: the dark events that took place, the risque forms of entertainment, the mysterious forms of entertainment that took place in parlor rooms. Not only the Victorian Period, but also the Reneissance as well: I loved the whole atmosphere that one would feel in a gothic cathedral, or happy minstrels and gypsies entertaining in the town square. I wanted to listen to music that reminded me of these settings, and I found it in ethereal wave, "gothic" classical music, medieval folk, dark cabaret, new age with gregorian chants, and neo-classical, symphonic, and gothic metal. So, I'm in more of a gothic mindset when I listen to these genres.

But that doesn't mean I don't enjoy all gothic rock. I love Rhea's Obsession and Faith and the Muse, and I do like some songs by The Cure. I think the closet spectrum of gothic rock I listen to would be pagan rock, which somewhat overlaps gothic rock and medieval rock elements (because I noticed that a lot of pagan rock groups are also considered gothic rock and/or medieval rock, like Qntal and Inkubus Sukkubus, but I guess this topic is debatable too).

This was totally off-topic. http://www.goth.net/forums/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

Hmmm..... Nick cave.

I respect him, but he's kind of an artist I like select songs by, but can't really sit through an entire album of his.

I still like "The weeping Song", but I think Blixa Bargeld really makes that song....

Yeah, I just can't understand why people would just like everything that happens to fall into their chosen genre.
There should be something that ATTRACTS them to that genre in the first place.
I consider myself a full-time goth, yet most of the music I listen to nowadays would be dark ambient, martial industrial, black ambient, darkwave, neofolk, early industrial, and experimental music.

What attracted me to gothic music was not it's punk/new wave relevance, nor it's place in rock n roll history, but it's darkness and atmosphere.
What I love about classic goth bands especially was the importance of deep, brooding basslines under eerie wailing guitar effects.
Many newer goth bands tend to forget the importance of bass.

Yet, there's definitely times I would choose Laibach or Lustmord over Joy Division or the Sisters.

"Give it to me DARK!!!" says I.

The Sisters Of Mercy.

There, I said it.

I mean, they are good, but not deserving the maniacal praise they attract.

I find myself pretty disconnected from the modern Goth scene to be honest, so I guess you could say I think the majority of modern goth bands (by which I mean whats played in the clubs) are over rated.
There are of course exceptions, but it's true of the majority. Maybe I'm just not "down with the kids" anymore :p

There, I said it is a given

literally would throw a tumbler of sulphuric acid in the face of anyone using THERE I SAID IT

Music

INCREDIBLY overrated. People are so caught up in the music scene that they forget that there's more to life. A simple book can get you out of reality. People obsess about originality and being unique and individual... but they always limit it to the music scene. Society cannot think outside of music. Music is conformity itself, believe it or not. We have people thinking that they are rebelling by LISTENING to metal. People thinking that if they LISTEN to underground bands, they are different. They limit originality to what they LISTEN to.
15 year old boy: I'm tired of being a tool of society, I think I'll go rebel by LISTENING to black metal.

Person1: Oh, she listens to Good Charlotte, she must be a teenie.
Person2: He's gangster, he listens to rap.
Person3: He's so punk with his mohawk and his Sex Pistols tee.
Person4: Ew, you listen to Beyonce? Don't talk to me.

Notice how I emphasize the word LISTEN. Only because people judge others depending on what they listen to. Music went from something beautiful to something society uses as a tool to stereotype people/bring people down/judge people.

Music is the route of stereotypes.
Music is destroyed by society.
Music is overrated.

No, you've been labeled a troll for being a twat - by me in fact. The only person who can claim to be 'God' around here is me, and I'm both not that egomeniacal and not a moron who thinks that kind of thing is 'cool' when it's just lame. But then, I've stopped being (and stopped acting like) and angsty teen for a long time now.

You're lucky you just got the label, initially I was just going to deactivate your account outright, but then I saw you started to actually post things relevant to the topics you were posting in. If you keep it up, I'll remove the label again.

Sorry, I call em as I see em http://www.goth.net/forums/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

As for getting on topic - last time I was in clubs (granted it's been years know, ahh, kids ... ;P) I found a lot of basically techno music being played and trying to pass itself off as goth. WAY overrated and definitely not goth. But maybe I'm old school for thinking that music, any music, should have an actual artist involved somewhere, not just a completely computer generated track.

nilmar don't you have a match in a few hours

Music is overrated.

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WHY R THEY BEING OVERRATED IN BRAZIL?

aubreysejanamane wrote on July 5, 2011 at 22:28:43.

i wonder why dz guys w nt called 2 d national team, alex, anderson, fabio, rafael nd nilmar. anderson s mch btr dn lucas.

15 year old boy: I'm tired of being a tool of society, I think I'll go rebel by LISTENING to black metal.
society: black metal is in the next room
15 year old boy: yeah i'd like to suck on some of that!!!!
<15 year old boy goes into next room, finds a black lump of metal>
15 year old boy: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

loool

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Ian Dury.

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Just turned the telly on and saw a bit of Yes and it reminded me how I always thought that, , even back in the 70's, there was a lot of well orchestrated noise and not much substance in their music. Or was it just a platform for S.H. to irrrrrrrrrrrrritate everyone on the planet with his "pleaseforgivemeifiamgoingtoboreyouforhalfanhourwithoneofmineilostthewilltolivesolos". Am I alone? Are there any others?

KR

Tony

Yes! Is this the most pretencious, overrated band of all time?

84. The Rolling Stones. To me they are no more than just overrated jerks who write melodically dead emotionally dry music. The most overrated band I know of, actually. The Rolling Stones receive way too much praise and credit for everything from influence to the quality of their hooks. I'd give them a one at best. That said, there are a bunch of Stones songs that I do like (even a couple that I love) and I can easily say Beggar's Banquet is a really good album, but for the most part they really leave me cold. Sorry, this is just how I feel.

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Does anyone here still/ever listen to Tubular Bells from beginning to end?

Sure! Why not?

85. Miguel
86. Todd Terj
87. Frank Orange

so fucking tired of hearing abt frank orange

frank orange

this thread isn't as good as I expected. it's ultimately irrelevant.

Billy Orange
Orange Colour Scene

william of ocean

Orange's Eleven

ocean you glad I didn't say banana

To my mind they are the dictionay defenition of pretencious . Overated , formulaic, singalong lager fueled wedding music for the musically challenged

don't know who sold this guy his dictionay but kudos

the defenestration of pretencius was one of my favourite episodes of the dacian wars

88 http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showpost.php?p=42320529&postcount=214

89 The Rolling Stones. To me they are no more than just overrated jerks who write melodically dead emotionally dry music. The most overrated band I know of, actually. The Rolling Stones receive way too much praise and credit for everything from influence to the quality of their hooks. I'd give them a one at best. That said, there are a bunch of Stones songs that I do like (even a couple that I love) and I can easily say Beggar's Banquet is a really good album, but for the most part they really leave me cold. Sorry, this is just how I feel.

brony??

90 The Rolling Stones. To me they are no more than just overrated jerks who write melodically dead emotionally dry music. The most overrated band I know of, actually. The Rolling Stones receive way too much praise and credit for everything from influence to the quality of their hooks. I'd give them a one at best. That said, there are a bunch of Stones songs that I do like (even a couple that I love) and I can easily say Beggar's Banquet is a really good album, but for the most part they really leave me cold. Sorry, this is just how I feel.

91 The Rolling Stones. To me they are no more than just overrated jerks who write melodically dead emotionally dry music. The most overrated band I know of, actually. The Rolling Stones receive way too much praise and credit for everything from influence to the quality of their hooks. I'd give them a one at best. That said, we have not and will not charge you a cent and you're free to take your business elsewhere. I'd rather not call the police, but if you insist on continuing to disturb our guests I will. Please leave.

xtremekajaker

"The tree of life": And ode to the beauty of our blue planet!

marilous07

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Phersephoie

and this film lost the oscar for best photography over Scorsese's 3d film "Hugo"...if that isn't "pretentious" I don't know what is...

blablaidontcarewhour

SOooooooo pretenchus ommmmggg.....

pretenchus

clouds, i just noticed that you listed "sly & the family stone" as overrated, and wanted to bring this video to your attention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fZBaPS_XvQ

92 PAVEMENT - tongue in cheek winky eyed losers

93 Daft Punk

94 Creamcannon

i like it when people read the thread

treeship, that weren't me.

oh, people were sarcastically mentioning all the best bands. well, i'm not going to apologize for linking to that woodstock footage; i think it enriched the thread regardless.

95 the rolling stones

not quite. it's not best bands - hohoho - it's just the magic of random hating

we're crowdsourcing

This review of "Let it Bleed," written by an insane person, exists on Amazon:

1.0 out of 5 stars Ttile sound familiar?, August 25, 2004

Loyalist "Beatlenut" (USA) - See all my reviews

That's because the Beatles already released and album called Let It Be. The Rolling Rip-Offs strike again!

Stone Roses
Libertines

does that Amazon guy know the Replacements also called an album Let It Be? Didn't they know the Beatles already had an album with that title? The Replacements are overrated!

replacements? more like replacement beatles amirite??

yeah. and it's not like they were just ripping off the Beatles either - they also had an album called Tim. Obviously they got the idea from Tim Owens, who also called an album Tim. Same title once could have been a coincidence, but twice? Not buying, the Replacements were such copycats.

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View Poll Results: Sonic Youth?
Overrated, pretentious, and need to learn how to tune their instruments 		8 	50.00%
Geniuses of modern rock and guitar playing 		1 	6.25%
Just another band doing their thing 		7 	43.75%

97 I think that Daft Punk are one of the most over-rated groups playing today. CMV. (self.changemyview)

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As far as I can tell, it's fairly generic electro-house that's been aped a vast number of times. I don't see what all the fuss is about.

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I don't mean to sound like a hipster when I say this, but Daft Punk just did it first, which is why it seems generic. The duo has been making music since the 90's and has influenced countless artists

4. Dave Matthews Band: I understand girls think he's hot, so they kind of get a pass. But guys who like this dude need therapy. I've been told he sounds like a goat, and I agree with that assessment. I hear he gives a great performance, but I gotta be honest with you, if he were playing in my basement, I wouldn't check it out.

3. U2: Here's another band I love. They did some great things, but they've also done a lot of mediocre stuff. Also, I'm sick of hearing what great people these guys are, or at least Bono is. If I want a tree planted, I'll hire a gardener. I want music and I couldn't care less about the environment.

2. Nirvana: A lot of groups on this list are groups I love. Nirvana is possibly my least liked band of all time. They stink. They also made it cool to wear flannel and fat guys look atrocious in that garb. I like alternative music, but this group never had a song I liked. I'd much rather listen to Kurt Cobain's wife, Courtney Love, sing with Hole than listen to this group. They stink!

1. The Beatles: This will get me shredded and I'm ready to take the brunt of your criticism. The Beatles are the most overrated entertainers in the history of the world. Were they good? Yes. Were they great? Yes. Did they change music? Absolutely. Did they change the world? No. They didn't. They were a group that did a nice job and had a lot of great songs, but they weren't gods. They were just a good music group. And I am so sick and tired of younger people (under 40) who pretend they love this group. People who are obsessed with the Beatles do it because they think it's cool. They couldn't be more wrong.

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bored of canada
why the hell did i buy this album? boc are on autopilot here. i can' stand the ominous, swirling sound anymore. the crescendoes make me think of godspeed, a band i'd rather never listen to again in my life. there is also something totalitarian wagner-like in their heavy music which used to attract me in the past. the melodic parts are just too beautiful, too glistening. they seem to waste their time trying to hide a deep, mysterious meaning under their more and more generic music which simply isn't there. it's just totally hollow and daft. they do not advance. they have their complex recipe which always yields the same thick soup. the first time it was very tasty but it has become lukewarm and stale by now. i can't take them anymore. the worst is the counting and number-dropping. how bloody unoriginal. it would have been ok to do it once but it seems to be an essential part of their shtick. this album is not only superfluous and repetitive like hell, it is simply awful pretentious rubbish. i still cannot forgive myself that their marketing and this thread lured me into buying the cd.

― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 22:11 (1 hour ago)

ha – the absolute assured tone yet meaningless criticisms made me think that post was itself a c&p from another board, but apparently not.

yeah, i thought that at first, too, but then i remembered him taking that style for a test drive during the EOY poll results thread, so i think that's just his thing now.

"bored of canada" is cracking me up. classic amazon-style review title.

tbf though, he is probably being ironic. we should allow everyone the option of saying they were being ironic if they write an embarrassing post. it's the humane thing to do, imo.

too many idiots and bad writers are tolerated irl already

i like seeing the word "pretentious" it always clues me in to stop reading

98. Velvet Underground. Any band with a chick for a drummer (especially an UGLYY one) is guaranteed to be shit. A woman's place isn't behind the drum kit - it's backstage, keeping the food trays stocked and rolling doobs in preparation for the MUSICIANS.

99. Charles Mingus. Someone should've bought the dude a Jaco Pastorious album to teach him some REAL bass playing.

100. Can. More like CAN'T, amirite? Germans and a Japanese in collaboration...hmm, why does that sound familiar?

101. Miles Davis. More like Miles GAYvis, amirite? I mean, why else would anybody want to play such a gay-ass instrument as the flute? Or the clarinet or whatever, who cares.

102. Roxy Music. More ugly chicks!

What happened-------to REAL BLACK MUSIC

We use to have real Black music artist, that had real talent----and they made us proud

They carried themselves with RESPECT, on stage

We had great music artist like----Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson, Al Green, Aretha Franklin, Mavin Gaye, Luther Vandross, Donnie Hathaway, Curtis Mayfield, The Gap Band, Cameo, Earth Wind and Fire, etc

And those Black music artist, put a real message in their songs

1. But today Black music artist, have become a DISGRACE

2. The songs are so foul, and nasty

3 The men are acting like----Pimps, Thugs, and clowns

4. And the women female artist, are acting like Whores

5. None of the Black music artist today, are putting an uplifting message in their songs

What HAPPENED to real Black music

And how did it get to this point

Marvin Gaye----has a song called, What's Going Own. Where he speaks out against WAR

Marvin Gaye----has a song called Mercy Mercy Me, where he talks about OIL SPILLS, and enviromental problems

Marvin Gaye-----has a song called Make Me Wanna Holler, where he speak out against the Government, for mistreating people

1. Is JOHN LEGEND making socially conscious songs like that

2. Is Usher or NEO, making socially conscious songs like that

I like music that make me THINK

And the Black music out here today, don't make me think at all

The Black music out here today is SHALLOW

It's written on a 3rd grade level

You have so called music artist out here like, Soldier Boy

A 2nd grader can write those songs

Rapper Lil Wayne-----said he don't read

He said he don't read books, or nothing else

And you can tell

But he's the most popular Rappers out here today, and he's FEEDING the minds of many young people

I'm really concerned about the future of Black people

98. Velvet Underground. Any band with a chick for a drummer (especially an UGLYY one) is guaranteed to be shit. A woman's place isn't behind the drum kit - it's backstage, keeping the food trays stocked and rolling doobs in preparation for the MUSICIANS.

99. Charles Mingus. Someone should've bought the dude a Jaco Pastorious album to teach him some REAL bass playing.

100. Can. More like CAN'T, amirite? Germans and a Japanese in collaboration...hmm, why does that sound familiar?

101. Miles Davis. More like Miles GAYvis, amirite? I mean, why else would anybody want to play such a gay-ass instrument as the flute? Or the clarinet or whatever, who cares.

102. Roxy Music. More ugly chicks!

― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee)

I know it's tongue in cheek but if you're being sexist and homophobic you might as well say that Miles and Mingus suck because they're black.

Real overrated artists:

Bruce Springsteen - I like some of his music but I struggle to find anything approaching a classic in his repertoire.
Nirvana - Famous because Cobain commited suicide. Plus the first half of the 90s in american rock we're terrible thanks to them.
U2 - They've been franchising their old glories for 'cool' concert experiences for almost 30 years.
ABBA - So lame I can't even muster hate for them.
Wilco - They told their major label to fuck off and suddenly people started paying attention for like a month before completely forgetting about them once again.
Led Zeppelin - their four first album are so filled with ripoffs that I've lost all my respect for them. I still enjoy their music and think they improved on the originals, I don't respect them at all, though.
The Smiths - I don't know. Whatever.

In all honesty though, I do call Wilco 'the most boring thing I genuinely like.'

Miles Gayvis would be a good name for a jam band.

You guys. What. The. Fuck.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/07/is-franz-kafka-overrated/309373/

― copter (waterface), Thursday, 20 June 2013 14:43 (17 minutes ago

only really care about the stuff he did with Beefheart tbh

103 The Rolling Stones. To me they are no more than just overrated jerks who write melodically dead emotionally dry music. The most overrated band I know of, actually. The Rolling Stones receive way too much praise and credit for everything from influence to the quality of their hooks. I'd give them a one at best. That said, there are a bunch of Stones songs that I do like (even a couple that I love) and I can easily say Beggar's Banquet is a really good album, but for the most part they really leave me cold. Sorry, this is just how I feel.

BBC NEWS | Entertainment | Cheat's guide to Joyce's Ulysses
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/3810193.stm‎
Jun 16, 2004 - The book is pretentious hogwash, a classic because the pretentious, intellectual mafia say ..... Now I know and won't waste my money buying it.

Ulysses is my favorite book but at the same time it is probably overrated.

104 A perfect circle-pretentious twats or insightful philosophers? Listen to the judith? Notice how he keeps questioning the christian belief system? Do you think this is just a ploy to generate controversy and thus more record sales or a genuine statement of disgust at the christian religion at large? I like a good ol profound debate every now and then so i'll give my two cents on it: tool were never a very publicity obsessed band and part of this i think stems from MJK cos lets face it most bands opinions are influenced by their lead singer. mainly cos he/she is the one writin and spoutin the lyrics. so by my logic (which seems to conflict with others on a regular basis) shouldnt APC be the same as tool when it comes to not sayin things just to get noticed?

i know i am prone to generalizations but if you don't dig Joyce you're a cunt

It's true. I think too much is made of the allusions and references in ulysses though which turns people off. To hear the book described, it sounds academic and lame. You have to read it to see how the vast weight of history and tradition finds its way into the life of the text.

Also if you don't dig A Perfect Circle.

I know it's tongue in cheek but if you're being sexist and homophobic you might as well say that Miles and Mingus suck because they're black.

― Moka,

Hmm yeah, a gratuitous "Why do black people never want to rock?" woulda been a nice addition

U2, Pearl Jam, Coldplay (?), Muse --empty stadium rock ghosts

my controversial opinion of the night is that out of those four bands, coldplay is the best.

Oasis - They have six decent songs, I counted! Haha their interviews are so funny though when they insult whichever indie bands are selling more records than them at that time. Liam was quoted as saying Robbie Williams is a fat twat just last week..IT'S 2013 LIAM NO ONE CARES!

Red Hot Chilli Peppers - Worst band ever. When By The Way came out and it seemed like they were the biggest band on the planet was a really dark time for me.

The Stone Roses - One half decent album and not much else. They have the added bonus of having one of the most annoying singers ever. Them reforming just because Ian Brown beat up his wife and needs more money for his costly divorce proves what a shit that guy is.

Joanna Newsom - I'm sure the music is nice but I just can't get past that voice.

Animal Collective - I bought one of their albums once, can't remember a single thing about it.

Arctic Monkeys - I just cannot relate to this band at all and I've been to plenty of shitty clubs and chip shops (or whatever they sing about that makes them the band of the people) I could put The libertines here but they do have maybe two good songs? Of course I should ignore that and remember the fact Pete Doherty is one of the worst human beings alive.

Led Zeppelin - their four first album are so filled with ripoffs that I've lost all my respect for them. I still enjoy their music and think they improved on the originals, I don't respect them at all, though.

What was ripped off on III and the fourth album? Memphis Minnie was given co-writing credit for "When the Levee Breaks" on my LP of the fourth. (That seems plenty fair, considering that only the lyrics were borrowed, really.) I didn't think there was any non-original music on III.

other than "Gallows Pole", which I thought was credited as "Traditional"?

Hitler

105 Sadly this is the sort of thing that turns 'art' into an elitist niche to be enjoyed only by those who feel they can decide what is good and what is not. I'm not an art critic but I do like to see some evidence of basic skills but I'm afraid the ability to colour in squares is a bit too basic.

As Smurffy rightly says - the Emporers New Clothes. Personnally I think it's a pretentious waste of time, but that's just my opinion

106 Loveless is like the Emporers New Clothes, most people only rate it cos pretentious bourgeois hacks who write for arrogant publications like Mojo tell everyone it's the best album ever

107 Smh @ people followin fashon I swear funky is some emprers new clothes shit none of the tunes hav any bass

108 JunkiePhil said about 6 years ago:

Fuck me, The Heavens Gate web site is such a load of jargen.
I reckon we had a slight case of the empras new clothes here,
If you don't understand what Heavens Gate is about, you are stupid!

"Beethoven surprises us with what we do not expect; but Mozart manages to surprise us with what we DO expect."

― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 6 October 2013 04:08 (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Whose is that? The problem is I feel like it's the other way around for Mozart -- he manages to bore me with what I don't expect.

― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Sunday, 6 October 2013 04:51 (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

frank orange

The Beatles is definitely THE MOST overrated band of all time. Actually, them and Nirvana are tied.

KISS, Guns 'N Roses, Michael Jackson, Queen, Aerosmith, Bob Dylan, and Green Day are all tied for second.

you're going to need a bigger podium

To no one in particular:
Tell us WHY they're overrated, not just not liking them (or, you know, just prove you're narrow... and don't know much / haven't heard much)

For me, the definition of overrated: The Beatles. I don't hate them, but every single throwaway lameass song they released - has been hailed as genius!

D

Danelectro, are you the danelectro who wrote this?

danelectro wrote this on thread RS Top 500 on board I Love Music on Dec 2, 2004

ah, rolling stone. we're talking the greatest songs of all time, right? boring white guys with a lot of pages to fill and a lot of ads to sell. bob dylan shouldn't be close. he's a great songwriter with a terrible voice. jimi hendrix version of "all along the watchtower" should be before any of dylan's. i don't care who wrote it. what sounds better? the jackson 5's "abc" or "i want you back" should be in the top 5. they are fucking timeless. wacko jacko doesn't even appear until the 50s. motherfucker has at least 7 or 8 tracks between off the wall and thriller that should be in the top 30. he's been molested. and stevie wonder gets what? 3 or 4 songs. and for the love of fucking hiphop: eminem has not written a song that belongs in the top 500 of all time. tribe? de la? no "humpty dance?" the mention of pearl jam makes me want to puke. and no puffy fluff? who the fuck gonna tell me people don't go nuts when they hear 90s puffy out. fuck you, milq toast muthafuckin rolling stone.

ibrahimovic is a pile of shit, cowardly flash waster who never performs when it matters and is labelled "unorthodox" cos he can't play basic football. most overrated player i can think of.

― When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Saturday, 8 October 2011 00:12 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ibra=crouch with fancier footwork.

― When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Saturday, 8 October 2011 00:13 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Captain Beefheart & The Magic Band: Trout Mask Replica

Sorry, but I cannot quite spot the difference between this one and supposedly "arty" turkeys like "Two Virgins" and "Metal Machine Music". It is all just noise, noise and nothing but noise. Possibly fun in small doses, but musically, it contains nothing worth wasting your time on. His entire output is overrated, but this is clearly his worst and most unlistenable moment.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 7 April 2003 23:43 (10 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Count me in with the Mogwai thing.

― I can still taste the Taboo in my mouth when I hear those songs (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 8 November 2013 09:56 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Swans. Never in the mood.

― cheeseburger, Friday, 8 November 2013 09:59 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The Fall. Normally an ILX poll makes me more enthusiastic about an artist but still the only Fall album I like is the Best of the Fall, mainly for the atypical pop moments that proper fans don't like.

― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 8 November 2013 09:59 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The fact that so many books still name the Beatles "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art.

I'll say this up front: as far as all-time immortal classics go, Ziggy Stardust sounds pretty weak to my ears. As I'm sure many people have, I bought Ziggy Stardust before any of his other albums, and my first few listens left me absolutely dumbfounded that seemingly everybody -everybody - regarded this as an all-time immortal classic. Everything about the album just seemed off to me: the hooks seemed a little too big and dumb; the "rocking out" aspects seemed forced and unnatural; the moments of "beauty" felt completely phoney, and overall, the album just seemed a lot less interesting than it seemed to think it was. I decided that a large part of the album's appeal must have been in the image of Bowie as Ziggy, and of whatever message the album had tried to convey, but because the story was so loose in terms of how it was presented, I couldn't even get into the album from that direction. I eventually got to a point where I didn't hate the album, but it definitely didn't strike me as any great shakes.

I have no real anymosity towards the Who, I really dig most of Who's next, and i didnt even think Who By Numbers was too bad (and why does everybody bash "Squeeze Box"? Sure it has dumb lyrics, but so did most of Iron Maiden's Number of the Beast) but i would not put them in the same category as the Beatles or Zeppelin. They're better than the extensively overrated Stones, though, thats for sure!

I'm confused about this thread and which is the real overrated bands thread and should I be happy or sad that I got a copy and paste

Even if oneohtrix point never is idiotic?

― doglato dozzy (dog latin), Saturday, 1 February 2014 00:45 (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He's supposed to be the new aphex. The dorky mad genius with a PhD in post post modernism and a savage YouTube serrated twinkle in his giffy eye. So why does it sound like someone sampled an old magic carpet CD-ROM from 95 and started playing around on a midi keyboard with a few effects over the top? I hate to be the guy who says 'anyone could do it', but it's true. And James Ferraro did it a zillion times better a couple of years ago.

― doglato dozzy (dog latin), Saturday, 1 February 2014 01:10 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Nilmar was OTM in the original post. I have a terrible habit of judging people who rate the stones really highly.

Oh haha only realised you revived this for me and then I bang on about some other shit.opn should cover the stones. I'd listen to that.

lol 'The dorky mad genius with a PhD in post post modernism and a savage YouTube serrated twinkle in his giffy eye' is classic dog latin

<3 I've had a couple drinks admitterz

Pearl Jam were cool though until I stopped buying their records. They were cool up until then

Mike Dickens
1 month ago

I have listened to this album all the way through with an open mind, and here's my review:
Tangerine Nightmare - Shite

there's a certain type of english person that would normally use 'shit' to describe something they don't like, then they use 'shite' for extra dismissiveness when they want to dismiss something for being pretentious and overrated

Overrated shite music Jun. 27th, 2007 @ 12:03 PM Reply

So last night in the pub I managed to get chatting to a couple of girls. They were not exactly stunners but beggars can't be choosers, and as a sailor, im always a dirty fucking beggar.

The conversation topic changed to music, festivals, concerts and such like which suited me to the bone.

And then it turns out that both of them were avid Artic Monkeys fans.
"Your shtting me right? They are the most overrated pile of wank i've ever heard!"
I spluttered in disgust.

Things went downhill from there, and shortly after they left. No chance of me getting my end away which is always a pity. I'm annoyed that I broke my own rules and instead of agreeing with them that the Artic Monkeys are "amasing" I made my disdain for them more than clear. In this case however I dont feel I could lie without extreme sarcasm.

"amasing"

I use 'shite' quite a lot, but usually to dismiss something as being a clueless type of inept shit.

The title of the Kate Bush album is enough to make you throw up.

As well as Elton. Fucking. John.

And Stephen. Cunting. Fry.

Has it got Nick Clegg on bongos to round it off?

50 words for shite.

Basically, Brian Eno is the producer you call when you are a pretentious wanker and want to “art up” your music to give it some semblance of lasting significance. Other artists who have worked with Eno in the past: well-known pretentious wankers U2 and Coldplay, and solo pretentious wanker David Byrne (whose pretentious wankerdom was reined in by the earthy grooves and commitment to pop of his breakthrough band, Talking Heads).

As you might have predicted, Eno’s influence on Bowie led him to make two of his worst records, “Low” and “Heroes.” These albums have become recognized as two of the biggest scams in rock history: in an era of two-sided LPs, only the first side of “Low” or “Heroes” contained “rock songs;” the second side was entirely padded with instrumental filler.

The title of the Kate Bush album is enough to make you throw up.

As well as Elton. Fucking. John.

And Stephen. Cunting. Fry.

Has it got Nick Clegg on bongos to round it off?

50 words for shite.

― his eye is on the sbarro (unregistered), Monday, 24 March 2014 04:20 (1 month ago)

lol

british people who say ish like 'cunting' <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Here is the full text of Mr Hawkes' letter:

"I played viola on Kate Bush’s last LP, and laughed myself silly at her nonsensical lyrics about snowmen. The obsequious, unquestioning critical acclaim heaped upon this manifestly overrated singer is rather depressing, and summed up by your reviewer when he describes an audience who “spend the first part of the show clapping everything; no gesture is too insignificant to warrant applause”. Enough said."

Bill Hawkes
Canterbury

I knew the viola on that album sounded sarcastic.

there, i said it.

1 year passes...

Radiohead sucks. Period. There is no 'revolutionary art' in either OK Computer or Kid A. It is trash. It really is. I'm tired of all those damn psuedo-intelegencia music fans that think they know the shit, and think Radiohead is at the height of Avant-Garde. Dumb asses.
--T

― T. Watts, Tuesday, 3 December 2002 08:28 (11 years ago)

intelegencia

Emporors new clothes music.

I've been attempting to hear the 'soul' in his music for 20 years to no avail, all I hear is tedious joyless keyboard demos forged by a great self-promoter with a deft knack for pushing a genre creation myth to people who desperately want dance music to be more than the sum of its parts.

― Willl, Friday, November 7, 2014 5:58 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thanks for the FP alert, i did my duty

just read through this - kinda surprised no one managed to find or facetiously create a jack white/white stripes are overrated screed because they most certainly are (for real)

the world as willl and misrepresentation

emporor

5) Preferred albums for me would be LIVING IN THE PAST, The Carnegie Hall concert, one particular bootleg from '68 with Martin's Tune on it, and --strangely--the Chateau D'Isaster recording, which would have sounded just as lousy as Passion Play if they'd actually finished it back then. It sounds vast and symphonic now because by the time he released it Anderson had discovered reverb. Also because he's not SINGING--and here's what you realize when you listen to it: the longer the band went on, the more Anderson started to write vocal lines in terms of his instrument; so what sounds magisterial when played on flute on NIGHTCAP just sounds crap when sung on Passion Play

there you go, for what it's worth. I'm going back to my White Stripes album now.

Listening/ forcing my way through Marquee Moon by Television.

A crock of shit. Apart from the title track and 'elevation'

pm me if you want a mint copy. £1.98 on discogs

spoon (so boring...)

television (two nerd free birds does not a legend make...)

minutemen (red hot chili peppers for "cool" people)

Spoon are so calculatedly dull
Minutemen. With you. I'm more of a fan of the idea of them than their actual sub dud gang of four spazzmo tuneless shite. although History Lesson Part 2 is just fucking super pearl

The Rolling Stones. To me they are no more than just overrated jerks who write melodically dead emotionally dry music.

I love 'loveless' but avoided buying 'isn't anything' for ages. I bought it and it was attrocious,tuneless shite; now I know why shields burried 'loveless' under so many layers

― Anas FK, Sunday, 21 April 2002 01:00 (12 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i remember feeling much the same way when i came across Rothko's preliminary sketches

i started a thread once when i was drunk about how the sun city girls were the best band in the world and i can't listen to them at all anymore. i don't know what happened. they bug me now. and all the side-projects. it's a zappa thing, i think. bitter know it alls. i have never owned so many records and discs by a band and been so happy to sell them. but, when i was drunk, i could feel it. cuz i would turn into a bitter know it all. i mean, you can buy actual music from the middle east. and great comedy records are really cheap.

X

how many times have I tried these. Dull, Dull Dull

And while we're at it the fucking Afghan Whigs.

And I'm listening to Rodan's 'Rusty' which is A plus.

Go figure

Is FLAC content overrated?

I really think so.

After more than a year of collecting FLAC content, today I have given up. 4-8 times more storage is required to store the FLAC content, the the difference is barely 2-5%. Only the very lows and highs have a minor difference.

The highs and lows are sharpish on MP3s, 192/320 kbps, doesn't make a hell lot of difference. And to feel the differences you really have to hear the content in full volume. Half volume the difference is minimalistic. Maybe I don't have the best ears.

Anyone else feel the same way?

My ears are fucked. For example, i can't hear any difference between GG Allin at 96 kbits per sec or in Flac

i started a thread once when i was drunk about how the sun city girls were the best band in the world and i can't listen to them at all anymore. i don't know what happened. they bug me now. and all the side-projects. it's a zappa thing, i think. bitter know it alls. i have never owned so many records and discs by a band and been so happy to sell them. but, when i was drunk, i could feel it. cuz i would turn into a bitter know it all. i mean, you can buy actual music from the middle east. and great comedy records are really cheap.

― scott seward, Saturday, 8 November 2014 22:40 (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OT but I mean this is really otm

hilarious racist stage banter tho

The SCG I heard made no impact whatsoever. And I always hated Zappa for his overwhelmingly bullshit "everyone is stupid except me" schtick. And for his "technical facility = 'good' music" aesthetic.

Suede
Stone Roses
Pink Floyd ( straight in at number 1)

Is this the worst thread on ILM or is there some sort of hilarious shared joke I'm missing?

are you saying this thread is

............................................. overrated?

My Bloody Valentine.

Sorry, that is just how I feel.

Shellac (the poor man's Converge...)

Christian Fennesz, a pop-rock specialist from Austria, was introducing a vast electronic soundscape reportedly predicated on impulses derived from Gustav Mahler. In the process, he clutched a guitar, aka Fender Stratocaster, that could be seen if hardly heard.

His music – term used broadly, advisedly and wincingly – entailed deafening roars, blasts, riffs and rattles (mostly roars) that dulled the senses as they bludgeoned the ears. Some aficionados obviously appreciate this sort of thing. One hopes they understand it. For others, comprehension remains elusive.

The Mahler connection, in any case, required explanation via pretentious technobabble in the programme magazine.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/90fb1a88-a83e-11e3-8ce1-00144feab7de.html

^^^^^that's fuckin hysterical

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March 10, 2014 4:53 pm
Mahler Remixed, Zankel Hall, New York – review
By Martin Bernheimer

An electro-rock reworking of the Austrian composer’s music in which guitar and Mahler were difficult to discern
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oodness gracious.

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TROLL RACE

people are still fucking using that "i'm not sure if one would call such a thing music" canard after 1928?

I just think 2001 is boring. The only Kubrick I can get into is War Kubrick. The rest (that I've seen) comes across as masturbatory rubbish. I AM STANLEY KUBRICK I AM SO FREAKING YOU OUT RIGHT NOW LOL. That's what I hear, in my head, during that stupid slow-motion blood spilling out of the walls shot in Shining. Or the space baby thing with the fanfare. Give it a rest, beardo.
Full Metal Jacket
Dr. Strangelove
Spartacus
Paths of Glory

I like all of these! I really do! And except for FMJ I liked all of them BEFORE I ever had any intention of joining the cast of MASH so there!

BTW Joshua could whup HAL's ass.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, November 30, 2005 3:16 PM (9 years ago)

did i say spoon yet? everyone should always say spoon. like dumbed-down coldplay. you heard me.

can the drummer keep the beat steady for an entire boring song? the suspense is killing me...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpVlAOO41vw

That's a lovely song on the album. All bubbly and foamy. They are quite a boring band but I love them. It's what they do within that template that makes them good. If you like rhythm, try 'Sister Jack', especially when the groove slips into 9/4 in the intro without you noticing.

like watching water boil for 3 minutes and 30 seconds...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brVGAepDxdg

perfect pussy more like below-average pussy amirite

i don't even know if it's rock music. maybe it is a really clever deconstruction of rock or something. he can't sing. they can't play well. the songs aren't memorable. maybe they are so avant garde they go over my head.

b-b-b-b-but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM6oOcrzsmA

i mean i know that not singing or playing well or writing great songs is kind of the indie rock standard, but, yeesh, people talk about spoon as if they were better than that or something.

yea they are boring as shit

that one is really boring too. can't they afford a better drummer by now? don't these big name indie bands make any drummer-fuck-you money?

Spoon is boring, yeah, always had friends who spoke breathlessly about them and never really felt it. Feel the same about a lot of well-liked, highly capable mid-heavy indie rock bands though. I think I just don't like straightforward mid-heavy indie rock that much.

if you have been a vaguely poppy indie rock band since the early 90's shouldn't you have at least one "sex and candy" moment by now? i should be able to hum one annoying earworm-y indie pop song by you or you are a dud.

The Rolling Stones. To me they are no more than just overrated jerks who write melodically dead emotionally dry music. The most overrated band I know of, actually. The Rolling Stones receive way too much praise and credit for everything from influence to the quality of their hooks. I'd give them a one at best. That said, there are a bunch of Stones songs that I do like (even a couple that I love) and I can easily say Beggar's Banquet is a really good album, but for the most part they really leave me cold. Sorry, this is just how I feel.

don't these big name indie bands make any drummer-fuck-you money?

There's only so much a drummer can do with such beige material, though. But yeah, never got into Spoon. They're basically Toad the Wet Sprocket, but with a faint whif of pseudo-hipster pseudo-indie pseudo-cred.

The Rolling Stones. To me they are no more than just overrated jerks who write melodically dead emotionally dry music. The most overrated band I know of, actually. The Rolling Stones receive way too much praise and credit for everything from influence to the quality of their hooks. I'd give them a one at best. That said, there are a bunch of Stones songs that I do like (even a couple that I love) and I can easily say Beggar's Banquet is a really good album, but for the most part they really leave me cold. Sorry, this is just how I feel.

― نكبة (nakhchivan), Wednesday, December 3, 2014 11:47 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and hire a drummer!

also: neko case, new pornographers, destroyer, etc. the banality of evil...

agreed

Sorry, this is just how I feel.

Are Built to Spill like that too? I always assumed they were and never really gave them much chance. If you told me otherwise I would trust you.

They're basically Toad the Wet Sprocket, but with a faint whif of pseudo-hipster pseudo-indie pseudo-cred.

truth bomb

better looking though, I thought was the point

also: neko case, new pornographers, destroyer, etc. the banality of evil...

― scott seward, Wednesday, December 3, 2014 11:50 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

eh, I'd defend Neko; at least she sings like she cares about singing.

sometimes i can't keep straight in my head built to spill from guided by voices

to be fair, most american indie rock is a tale told by an idiot. signifying nothing.

yeah me too sort of, except I know that Guided By Voices is the one with the huge catalog and the seemingly much more devoted and cult-like fanbase.

I think I still prefer that late 90s/early 00s death rattle of rock and roll chapter in indie rock to the more recent twangly-sweet Bon Ivery fireflies-in-mason-jars stuff though.

which band is obsessed with the beatles, BtS or GbV?

yea i agree with that, bon iver fleet foxes softie garbage is not for me, even if some of it is admirable

IDK, I'm guessing GbV? I'm listening to Built to Spill right now fwiw, sounds a little like a shittier version of older Modest Mouse

i don't know if admirable is the right word, more like harmless

GbV is obsessed with the Who. I don't hear it myself, but I haven't heard much GbV.

So rhythmically pat and predictable though (BTS), MM was way more exciting.

gbv had some half-decent tunes. i still think a decent hard rock band could do an album of the best gbv songs, record them well, and maybe...nah, they wouldn't make any money. never mind.

I don't believe I've knowingly heard a Spoon song before clicking one of those vids Scott posted.

I saw James on CBS' Saturday morning Sessions segment and thought wow, there's a band that sold a ton of records over quite a few years, became inactive, reunited, and all the while I never heard a single song. I don't know how highly they're rated, but I didn't rate them at all.

i DO still think that willie nelson should do an album of grateful dead covers. would be the biggest album he ever had. get the t bone burnett treatment. guest vocalists. would be HUGE. it's really the only million dollar idea i have...

just as long as they don't involve any members of the dead...

James is an exceptionally boring band, but I don't remember ever knowing anyone who loved them.

Turned off BtS after a couple songs and put on Lonesome Crowded West -- this record still kicks.

built to spill are a snooze. i don't know if they are overrated though. don't think anyone really listens to them except for their fading graying original audience. like silkworm fans only sleepier. if that's possible.

indie rockers the proverbial fish in barrel though. they can be fun to pick on but ultimately kinda pointless. like life. and indie rock.

stop messing up the thread

nick cave owns this thread.

the fall owns this thread

Sorry, that is just how I feel.

Nick Cave can do one

I agree he is completely terrible, although I like the majority of his albums and also he is my beloved uncle

In a parallel universe, the beatles put out a series of brilliant but almost completely neglected albums that only cultists own and love with a religious fervour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpaOy8b8X6A

http://charlesbarabe.bandcamp.com/album/insultes-hommage-john-cage

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32863603/Screenshot%202014-12-14%2017.52.17.png

Boards of Canda. To my mind they are the dictionay defenition of pretencious . Overated , formulaic, singalong lager fueled wedding music for the musically challenged

haha

do you think pankaj mishra and his friends like kant, arendt and roth would see sanctimonious uncontextualized linkdumps as an enlightmenment praxis?

typically practised its mostly a sort of pass/ag censure or a feelgood gesture of commonality, at its highest aspiration it can even approach the phatic, a reassuring block of text that doesn't need to be read but purportedly affirms the link poster's own views, which a priori are the same as every other right-thinking link poster's views

― Hayat Boumkattienne (nakhchivan), Wednesday, January 21, 2015 8:03 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Thursday, 22 January 2015 17:53 (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

imagery?

― deliberately clunky, needlessly arty, (contenderizer), Thursday, 22 January 2015 17:57 (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

obscure words awkwardly conjoined

― Aimless, Thursday, 22 January 2015 18:07 (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ilx posts with striking horseshit

― marcos, Thursday, 22 January 2015 18:10 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^

― deliberately clunky, needlessly arty, (contenderizer), Thursday, 22 January 2015 18:11 (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

tbf there really is no imagery there

there very seldom is in my posts, clover is seemingly just using that thread for uncontextualized c&ps of posts written at any sort of level likely to confound landfill rubes, which is admirable in its way

how hard do you have to squint to read other people's posts from that high horse of yours

Balancement 25 days ago

If the excerpt is any indication, then Finnissy did indeed defecate on stage. I'm sorry, life is simply too short for this kind of clattering nonsense. Five-and-a-half hours? As the old sayings go, the Emperor has no clothes, and if Finnissy should ever run across something resembling a melody, or development of same, he ought to write it down.

Nevermind was the third most acclaimed album of all time, is what I've just learned

and you wonder why I mistrust critics to the point of antipathy

The Avalanches. They are just OK to me, most of their somehow legendary album sounds muddy and unfocused. They do have a few decent tracks admittedly.

Unlike Spiritualized. I tried several times to see what the fuss is about, they have never once given the slightest indication of being more than hugely dreary and derivative.

DaveKerfuffle 5d ago

4
5
Sad news indeed, and RiP
However: Twin Peaks. A whole generation of Hipsters were conceived to the soundtrack of this gratingly pretentious and over-rated babble-fest. Think on, people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_Peaks_(band)

The band's influences on the album include garage rock acts such as Jay Reatard, Ty Segall and The Strokes,[5] and rock artists such as the Beatles, The Stooges, and the Rolling Stones.[6]

Animal Collective is horrific
Tame Impala
Bon Iver

I've been aware of Fantano as a name that crops up every so often in places on the internet where music discussion is taking place, but I've never once understood why people consider his opinions worth paying attention to. I've never once found myself interested in what Fantano thinks about... well, anything. I did watch a couple of his reviews a couple of years ago and I didn't find what he had to say particularly enlightening or engaging. Just as well, since apparently according to this thread he's a bit of a douche.

i don't get all the hate

I find I mentally divide artists I dislike into two categories. Some, like REM, are just boring and a mystery in their popularity. But some, like Lady Gaga , make me actively angry, as though I'm witnessing someone scamming someone and getting away with it.

Kate Bush... just get on with it, then

not a band but.. Wes Anderson. Tell me an actual film, a real film, that he has made that is in fact great. See, you can't do it.

This fucking thread again

R.I.P. Sorry this is just how I feel