Bands No One Admits Listening to That Have Sold Millions of Albums

From Mike Gitter at Noisecreep:

Nickelback
Disturbed
Creed
Insane Clown Posse
Korn
Styx
Limp Bizkit

How many of them will you rep for? Who else belongs on the list?

http://i.imgur.com/V7XdodJ.jpg

Metallica

I will admit that I am cool with Korn. I realize they helped invent/popularize a bunch of stuff I cannot stand, but when they came out they were quite unique. I had to see them numerous times back in the day and they always put on great shows too.

I'll rep for Korn's first two albums and the majority of Creed's first album.

DJP is pretty open about his love of ICP

Metallica?
I'll rep for Styx

Hootie

Boney M and Modern Talking sold hundreds of millions of records yet despite the general rehabilitation of disco no-one with a reputation to lose reps for them.

Xhuxk reps for Boney M all the time!

he said "with a reputation"

Modern Talking never charted in America

I will kinda sorta rep for Styx tho

The mid/late nineties kind of own this category: Hootie, Third Eye Blind, Train, etc.

Boney M fucking rule, guys!

Counting Crows? Not sure they managed "millions."

Counting Crows gained popularity following the release of its debut album, August and Everything After (1993), which featured the hit single "Mr. Jones". They have sold more than 20 million albums worldwide and received a 2004 Academy Award nomination for their song "Accidentally in Love", which was included in the film Shrek 2.[2][3][4]

The band's influences include Van Morrison, R.E.M., Mike + The Mechanics, Nirvana, Bob Dylan, and The Band.

I thought Third Eye Blind were an ILM favorite.

Pieces of Eight and The Grand Illusion are good albums; Styx II isn't bad either.

xposts I know lots of people who admit to listening to Counting Crows though.

Third Eye Blind and Styx too for that matter.

20 million albums...if you played each sold counting crows album back to back, assuming an average length of 45 minutes, you could listen to the counting crows for 1,761 years without stopping.

:(

I gotta say, they did their roadwork. They were still playing dives in Oxford, MS, after "Mr. Jones" hit big. Hootie too.

I must admit I've met a few Cunting Crows fans over the years. Also seen Counting Crws tour tshirts being worn in Glasgow.

yeah counting crows are huge and have a pretty devoted following.

Boney M fucking rule, guys!

Cosign.

I dunno that I'd *rep* for Korn but I liked the first 2 albums. I feel okay about them.

Styx, sure. They've got some jams!

Boney M are pretty great. Good childhood memories of them.

counting crows can suck my fat one though.

http://www.ildivo.com/sites/ildivo/files/imagecache/299x299/greatest-hits_0.jpeg

yeah i have always been vocal about my boney m love too. but i don't have too much of a reputation either. been a fan since high school.

Il Divo: To date, they have sold more than 26 million albums worldwide.

i love listening to those early styx records. pre-superstardom albums. i never listened to them years ago so they are cool and unfamiliar to me.

Boney M were obviously great but I also have a certain amount of time for Modern Talking. Atlantis Is Calling is terrific.

the Osmonds

I didn't really grow up with Styx so they were a fun discovery for me. Also I was obsessed with their episode of Behind The Music when I first moved to the states. I think I watched that episode 10 times.

i rep for disturbed

Also I was obsessed with their episode of Behind The Music when I first moved to the states. I think I watched that episode 10 times.

lol <3

I dont know anyone who likes Adele

I love the rollercoaster ride of awesome rockin Styx to poppy rockin Styx to whoooa ballad Styx then kiiinda rockin Styx and then Mr roboto lols and then aaaggggh the rollercoaster crashed lol

xpost yes you do

ME

I'll admit it: the Vanilla Ice Behind the Music was formative for me

Mordy you are disturbed

xpost ooh that's a good one too

I dont know you irl though vg

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha come on, Adele is the worst possible candidate for a thread like this unless you only know 2 sulky teenagers who listen to nothing but crabcore

best behind the music - milli vanilli

AG you're just nitpicking to skew the results, lol :)

well i online know an ex sulky teenager who likes ICP

does anyone admit to listening to Milli Vanilli? I'm looking at you, Boney M fans.

Coldplay
U2

Don't get me started on Modern Talking. They are all-time.
ShariVari is right, "Atlantis Is Calling" is probably their best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB57CuT4smM

I know shitloads of U2 fans and i believe a cousin of mine likes coldplay

i am a U2 fan as are many satisfied millions

I listened to Milli Vanilli soooo much in 1988/89

I admit to listening to them when they were popular, I guess that counts right?

I don't actually know of a single person who was really into Milli Vanilli who gave a shit about the lip-synching controversy

I still listen to U2 up to and including Rattle and Hum. I remain unashamed.

I still listen to The Real Milli Vanilli:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPCZ9MCbi2s

I know shitloads of U2 fans and i believe a cousin of mine likes coldplay

― Vote in the ILM 70s poll please! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, February 25, 2013 9:44 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I only personally know ONE (yes, ONE) U2 fan... and my god is he a colossal pain in the fucking arse about them.

I don't hate Milli Vanilli, I guess. But they're not very interesting. Boney M were pop geniuses, on the other hand.

Fuckin' Rasputin, man. Fuckin' Rasputin.

it was more the fact that Milli Vanilli didn't have another album that put a pin in my milli vanilli listening, rather than omg lipsynching

RAH RAH RASPUTIN

I only personally know ONE (yes, ONE) U2 fan

lol now that song's going to be stuck in my head all day! *shakes head, smiles*

also

HOO RAY
HOO RAY

IT'S A HOLLY HOLLY DAY

the way rasputin switches up at the start after the first twenty seconds or so is just plain incredible to me. that intro just means business, its fucking glorious

the first band coming to mind are the carpenters, i always loved them even when they were on the radio all the time in the 70s. boney m i liked for a second, i was so disappointed when i heard the original version of no woman no cry as i had always assumed it was a boney m song. but after daddy cool and no woman no cry it was going downhill for boney m. of course i was a u2 fan around 1985, sunday bloody sunday was our disco hymn.

the way rasputin switches up at the start after the first twenty seconds or so is just plain incredible to me. that intro just means business, its fucking glorious

― acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Monday, February 25, 2013 9:50 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yep, it's this. I love the ridiculousness and pomp of the whole thing, but it's that canny musicality that makes it stick.

The Carpenters have long been reclaimed as credible, so I wouldn't think they would count. And I can't believe people are citing U2 - there are shitloads of overt U2 fans around.

I'll rep for Dido any day (first album 21 million copies sold, second album 12 million copies).

i used to love abba when i was around 12 and i never understood how they got all the critics love on ilm later on. they are a band i am almost ashamed of now to have liked. but i was young and didn't know better.

I should not be trying to listen to Boney M while playing Sinead's first album

Yeah come on, The Carpenters got lots of hipster huggles in the 90s.

dire straits should be mentioned here, no? though i think they were qute a solid band up until brothers in arms.

so this thread is just like 'extremely popular music that ilm doesn't like'? it's not some crazy mystery where these millions of nickelback fans are, the nickelback fanpage has 15 million likes

Yanni

this thread is basically the ILM version of "I don't even own a television"

otm

kenny g
billy joel
alabama

it's really not that hard to find someone who likes billy joel

dunno bout now but plenty of people at school in the 80s liked dire straits

charley pride
nana mouskouri
barry crocker

my gran loved nana mouskouri

but did they admit loving dire straits?

Anybody want to rep for sing along with Mitch albums?

James Last

Paper Lace

alex - yes. brothers in arms was a massive selling album here in the UK

did anyone on ilm over 35 have parents who didn't own one Mantovani album?

james last has one awesome album called voodoo party that everyone should buy. why because mr giant man

^^^ Shit, did you play this in outloud/plug one time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7NmCBiNx6M

smashmouth, some people say "shrek" is where you shined brightest, but you were the highlight of "rat race"

james last? how old are you? that was indeed very uncool music when i grew up. my parents were too old for it and my mates and me too young.

goalie: yes of course it was, in germay as well. but that's what this thread is about, bestselling albus by bands which are uncool.

germany, albums

bestselling albus

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d90/fishoutofwater22/Harry%20Potter/dumbledore.jpg

On the train passing Glasgow Academy, I used to see names like Lifehouse and Yellowcard would be playing those night and wonder how bands of there ilk could play a 2000+ capacity venue here

*their

The Countdown Singers (Though I doubt their sales were actually in the millions).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jjvygcjMeY

"did anyone on ilm over 35 have parents who didn't own one Mantovani album?"

yes.

yeah, 70's james last records have to be checked for the one obigatory funk jam or break beat.

Gotta say that in the digital age it's a lot harder to sneak a peak at someone's CD collection. For all I know everyone I see with an iPod is listening to some shit they'd never admit to listening.

that's not really the typical james last album. that song sounds like mickey mouse meets dr. john.

scott having parents who owned 10 isnt what i meant :)

this is for alex
http://cdn2.spiegel.de/images/image-457061-galleryV9-bozw.jpg

for everyone else read http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/24/heino-german-singer-far-right-comeback?INTCMP=SRCH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF2ODWluPlY

Emil.y have you heard this one before?

I have. someone played it in plug.dj

seandalai i think

except for the umpteen maynard ferguson and stan kenton records, my father had an AMAZING record collection when i was growing up. blue note and prestige up the wazoo. he was a hepcat.

someone brought this in to the store a while back and i REALLY want to start a band called Schlager Regatta now. it would be my krautrock + chillwave band, of course.

http://www.secondhandlps.de/pix_dlps/schlager_regatta_4_metronome.jpgg

I'll rep for korn up to like 2008

in the mid 70s i used to listen to a german radio show called schlager-rallye. it had a top ten voted by the listeners. when bohemian rhapsody stayed number one for about half a year i gave up on the show.

understandable

does anyone on this board like queen and admits it at the same time?

yep!

Hi Infidelity (1980) contained four US Top 40 hits and is the group's best-selling album, with over ten million copies sold. Over the course of its career, the band has sold more than 40 million records

everybody loves queen.

nah

I love Queen and REO Speedwagon and I'll wedgie anyone who comes at me.

REO the same situation as styx for me. became a big fan of their early stuff later on. same with journey. double live REO album from the 70's one of my favorite live albums ever.

the whole world loves queen.

Jackson Browne and The Eagles are probably the two that I would get violent about, as far as being accused of listening to. And even then they both have at least 1 song that I do genuinely like.

Emil.y have you heard this one before?

Ha, yes, I have known and loved that 'Silver Machine' version for a while.

i love the eagles but i don't think i've ever actually listened to a jackson browne album.

I bought Jackson Browne's Lawyers In Love because the song I thought was Lawyers In Love was actually And We Danced by The Hooters. For that very reason, I hated Jackson Browne for a long time. I think he's okay now.

Il Divo is a good call, 26 million albums worldwide. Which made me think of Jackie Evancho, that little girl with the big voice from America's Got Talent, PBS holiday specials, etc. Top-selling debut artist for 2010 and the youngest solo artist ever to go platinum. My parents love her, guessing no one here does.

to love queen these days seems even more of a mystery to me. just thinking of "we are the champions" blastng from the speakers in a football stadium makes me want to kill myself.

it's really not that hard to find someone who likes billy joel

OTM. Visit NY state, seriously.

U2, Coldplay, and Adele are absolutely insane nominations.

I like "How You Remind Me" and "The Night" fwiw.

xpost OK, Queen is a truly insane nomination.

I probably love Queen more now than I did 20 years ago.

queen were so amazing. love them so much. like an awesome beatles made out of metal and disco. best band.

could listen to the sheer heart attack album every day of my life and never get tired of it.

For serious, Queen is canon for a reason.

Queen frustrate me because by all rights, I should love them but I only like them.

I used to be you. Loving can happen.

Like, they're kind of like Gabriel-era Genesis and they're kind of like Rush but I can't click with Queen as well as I do with those bands.

I hate Queen so much but I'm willing to believe I've just been hearing the wrong songs the whole time.

news of the world is awesome cuz all four queen dudes wrote amazing songs on it. not every band can do that.

James Last "Silver Machine" broke my computer.

i can imagine queen being kinda annoying in the u.k. just cuz so ubiquitous? other than the big hits and yes sports arenas you aren't hit upside the head with a queen stick here. in the 70's they were more everywhere.

i used to hate queen because of the ubiquity of 'champions' (which i actually kinda like now) and 'we will rock you' (still hate it) but their best stuff is just as awesome as everyone says.

like an awesome beatles made out of metal and disco.

otm 1000%

borrowing that

What would be the US equivalent? Like fucking Boston or something? Because I'm almost at the point where "More Than a Feeling" sends me into a murderous rage.

i think what i dislike most about queen is that their rock isn't really rock, it's just opera rock. they suck so much. it's not even prog what they did, it is cabaret rock. a total waste of time. please don't compare genesis to queen, esp. not gabriel era genesis, they were awesome, so inventive.

Prog can lick my balls.

Along with Il Divo, Gipsy Kings (18 million), Andrea Bocelli (80 MILLION).

re: Queen not every one is into campy gay fascist rallies

My mom admits to liking Andrea Bocelli.

His version of Santa Claus is coming to town featuring Elmo goes hard

my parents like andrea bocelli

"i think what i dislike most about queen is that their rock isn't really rock"

you couldn't be more wrong. and they were extremely inventive! over a long period of time! but you know whatever.

Can't like...I'm into "Con Te Partirò"

Can't *lie

Gipsy Kings' Roots was an awesome album.

i think what i dislike most about queen is that their rock isn't really rock, it's just opera rock. they suck so much. it's not even prog what they did, it is cabaret rock. a total waste of time. please don't compare genesis to queen, esp. not gabriel era genesis, they were awesome, so inventive.

― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, February 25, 2013 11:13 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm not the biggest queen fan but aaaaaaaaaagggg *facepalm*

the way rasputin switches up at the start after the first twenty seconds or so is just plain incredible to me. that intro just means business, its fucking glorious

― acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Monday, February 25, 2013 9:50 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yep, it's this. I love the ridiculousness and pomp of the whole thing, but it's that canny musicality that makes it stick.

Have you guys heard the extended remix of "Rasputin"? It stretches the intro into three minutes of awesomeness:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL68JAzBZlM

My mind was blown when I first came across this one!

Zamfir

...Il Divo, Gipsy Kings (18 million), Andrea Bocelli (80 MILLION)

I think these are bought mostly by restaurants. Which makes me wonder about those fake bossa nova versions of rock/dance hits with zoned out vocals (usually female)... has their popularity with restaurants made them into best-sellers?

Never mind that: There are 80 million restaurants?

...Il Divo, Gipsy Kings (18 million), Andrea Bocelli (80 MILLION)

I think these are bought mostly by restaurants.

These are mostly bought by my mum. She actually has at least half of those Andrea Bocelli CDs.

Had never heard the extended Rasputin before, thanks for sharing Tuomas!

"i think what i dislike most about queen is that their rock isn't really rock"

you couldn't be more wrong. and they were extremely inventive! over a long period of time! but you know whatever.

― scott seward, Monday, February 25, 2013 11:20 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Absolutely! For anyone to say that 'Stone Cold Crazy', 'Liar', 'Son & Daughter', 'Brighton Rock' etc. aren't "really rock" is just "wut?"

I wish I could say I've never met any Simple Minds fans. Oh how much better secondary school would have been in 84-90

I have a friend I've known since lolcollege who is a Simple Minds superfan. They are his favorite band in all of history. He has traveled from the US to the UK many, many times to see them.

that's a long way to travel for a Big Mac meal

http://www.larklane.com/students2010/mahayahia2010/ocr%20animation%20exam/image/www_animated-animation_de_smiley_3d_gifs_animiert_gif_clip-art_icons_01_600x400%5B1%5D.gif

i think what i dislike most about queen is that their rock isn't really rock, it's just opera rock. they suck so much. it's not even prog what they did, it is cabaret rock. a total waste of time. please don't compare genesis to queen, esp. not gabriel era genesis, they were awesome, so inventive.

― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, February 25, 2013 6:13 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is OTM. Mercury is so insanely overrated as a singer. Also, fuck them for playing Sun City.

i think what i dislike most about queen is that their rock isn't really rock, it's just opera rock. they suck so much. it's not even prog what they did, it is cabaret rock. a total waste of time. please don't compare genesis to queen, esp. not gabriel era genesis, they were awesome, so inventive.

Agree with this x1000. I fucking hate Queen and always have. If you think Queen are a rock band, you're doing it wrong. They're as rock as Andrew Lloyd Webber. In fact, I'm surprised they picked Paul Rodgers to front them when they started doing reunion shows - they should have hired Sarah Brightman.

I will stand up for Disturbed - their second album was really good. At one point I had the first four Styx albums (the pre-hits era) on my iPod; they were interesting in a heartland-prog kind of way.

I get where alex is coming from. I think it's something about the camp/theatrical/Broadway nature of Queen that prevents me from really connecting with it. But Gabriel's Genesis have something of that quality too and it works for me then. And I love Eno and the first two Roxy Music albums, who are also somewhat arch and campy.

xpost

oh dear choosing Disturbed over Queen. If it wasn't Phil I would say it was plain trolling.
But it *is* Phil. :)

I hate Roxy Music too. And T.Rex. Man, the English tried so hard to ruin rock music in the 1970s...

But I actually agree that they were inventive, highly skilled, etc! And I do like them; I just don't love them!

2xpost

I luv Phil

i don't think it has to do with the campy side of queen that i can't stand them. as i said i like genesis with gabriel fine and i love a lot of roxy music. queen just don't connect to me at all, another reason besides their operetta shtick why i can't stand them is the overdose of queen i was exposed to in the 70s. they were shoved into my ears whereas i discovered genesis and roxy music on my own. roxy music i only discovered very late, in the mid 80s.

Agree with this x1000. I fucking hate Queen and always have. If you think Queen are a rock band, you're doing it wrong. They're as rock as Andrew Lloyd Webber. (snip!)

― 誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:53 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Interesting. If you could point me towards any Andrew Lloyd Webber composition that sounds remotely like 'Liar' or 'Ogre Battle', I'll take you seriously.

I get where alex is coming from. I think it's something about the camp/theatrical/Broadway nature of Queen that prevents me from really connecting with it. (snip!)

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:55 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

What do you think of Alice Cooper's early '70s work, then?

Give me Queen over Rush any day.

I wish I could say I've never met any Simple Minds fans. Oh how much better secondary school would have been in 84-90

― Vote in the ILM 70s poll please! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:36 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Indeed... if there was any band that should have broken up in 1983. Would have been fairly unlikely, mind.

Give me Queen over Rush any day.

― Vote in the ILM 70s poll please! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:34 PM (7 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Give me the 1973-1982 catalogue of both to take with me to the metaphorical desert island, throw in a solar powered hi-fi and I'll die of starvation very happily.

i am not really familiar with alice cooper but i somehow doubt i would like his early 70s stuff. "school's out" was him, wasn't it? but wasn't alice cooper kind of the beginning of goth?

in the same way that Sam Cooke was the beginning of dubstep, yes

Ha, I started investigating Alice Cooper's catalogue because of the 70s rock poll. I really like Love it to Death, actually.

xpost:

Haha!!

about 2/3 of the rock poll nominations are unknown to everyone outside of E III but I am amazed that you hadn't heard any Alice Cooper albums, sund4r!

Ha, I started investigating Alice Cooper's catalogue because of the 70s rock poll. I really like Love it to Death, actually.

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:40 PM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Y'see, that's interesting... because I always considered Alice Cooper (certainly his stage show), to be vastly more theatrical than Queen ever were. I mean, while Queen were playing Wembley in '86, the Coop was on his 'Nightmare Returns' tour... fake blood, getting his head "cut off" to 'I Love The Dead', a monster that 'came alive' to 'Teenage Frankenstein', singing 'Ballad Of Dwight Fry' in a straitjacket while a woman played a nurse, and a guitarist (Kane Roberts) that looked like Rambo... I could go on...

By comparison Queen had a guy with a moustache wearing a vest and trackie bottoms and strutting around "playing" his mic stand as if it were a guitar.

*shrug*

I do like Queen! It's just that since I can tell they were great and inventive musicians whose style is not that far off from bands that I really love, I'm surprised I don't like them more than I do.

Alice Cooper's stage show was definitely more theatrical but his music is mostly basic hard rock (sometimes a little too basic for me, actually), even a bit garage at times. I also get the Lloyd Webber vibe from Queen's music at times, although I see you disagree with that.

I have a friend I've known since lolcollege who is a Simple Minds superfan. They are his favorite band in all of history. He has traveled from the US to the UK many, many times to see them.

― ARE YOU HIRING A NANNY OR A SHAMAN (Phil D.), Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:38 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's a long way to travel for a Big Mac meal

― tochter tochter, please (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:41 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

His second favorite band is U2. His third favorite is the Police, although he prefers Sting solo. I could go on and on.

4th Huey Lewis & The News? 5th Phil Collins Genesis?

Alice Cooper's stage show was definitely more theatrical but his music is mostly basic hard rock (sometimes a little too basic for me, actually), even a bit garage at times. (snip!)

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:02 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hmm... I couldn't call 'Halo Of Flies' or 'Unfinished Sweet' basic hard rock... hard rock, sure, but there's a lot of thought been put into the production and the arrangements. What about the more vaudeville stuff like 'Crazy Little Child', 'Some Folks', 'Mary Ann'? The disco numbers on Goes To Hell? His early '80s Alice-goes-New-Wave period? His Welcome To My Nightmare album is theatrical as all hell... the Vincent Price cameo on 'The Black Widow', the second side of the album with the 'Steven' suite...

Love It To Death is a great record, the perfect match of band and producer (Bob Ezrin), but Alice and Ezrin would steer the group into more theatrical waters later... it was the reason why the group split up and Alice went "solo", they were tired of the theatrics and wanted to get back to being a good old hard rock band again, and Alice disagreed.

xp Switch those and you're pretty close!

https://twitter.com/joshuatopolsky/status/301103374827413504

I'd rather listen to Real To Real Cacophony, Empires & Dance and Sons Of Fascination/Sister Feelings Call over ANY era of Genesis, fwiw.

*Sons And Fascination

Phil D please tell me your friends name is Patrick.

"oh dear choosing Disturbed over Queen."

haha, i love this too. attack of el wrongo. meanwhile, if anyone is gonna star in a new production of joseph and the amazing technicolor dreamcoat its the monkey dude from disturbed.

what is sebastian bach doing these days?

xp Hahaha I wish I could. It would be so perfect.

i just read a sebastian bach interview in a recent issue of decibel. he's fine. clean and sober. he has something called abachalypse now or something.

Yeah, I obviously still don't know Alice Cooper's catalogue that well.

If you think Queen are a rock band, you're doing it wrong. They're as rock as Andrew Lloyd Webber. ... I hate Roxy Music too. And T.Rex. Man, the English tried so hard to ruin rock music in the 1970s...

break me a fucking give with this shit, 'ooh those faggy limp-wristed limeys can't ROCK!' was tired enough when bangs and meltzer pulled it in the 70s.

you can't really reason with Disturbed fans. i wouldn't try anyway.

didn't bangs love jethro tull?

Thought he hated them?

I interpreted this as critical but it's hard to tell sometimes: http://www.tullpress.com/crmay73.htm

Pretty sure Lester wasn't a fan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOqo6scHOwc

No mention yet of Mannheim Steamroller?

CW McCall was selling millions on his joint before MS.

Related: he married a friend of mine from college (who was very hot) and like 25 years younger.

This thread really took a turn into homophobia for a second there, didn't it.
I was trying to explain to someone yesterday that as a Scottish ex-pat in the US it's recently become plain how many of the cultural touchstones I grew up with were explicitly gay or bi compared to my American counterparts.
Bowie / Queen / Elton John / Morrissey vs. Springsteen / Boston / Billy Joel / (my smart analogy admitted breaks down as I see Michael Stipe as the US equivalent to Morrissey) etc...
It wasn't even that hard for me to turn on one of our four television channels and watch Derek Jarman movies.

And re: ABBA. On a musicological level there is absolutely nothing you can hold against them. Super catchy pop disco that is rooted in classical traditions. They just need a great Behind The Music / Classic Albums documentary to kill the stigma in the same way that the Bat Out Of Hell episode actually made me re-evaluate that record. I'd still rather not hear it but I respect what they were trying to do and understand why people bought it.

In closing: I actually think modern music (especially in the USA) could benefit from a few campy gay fascist rallies.

Mannheim Steamroller is a good call. What about those Benedictine monks?

"In closing: I actually think modern music (especially in the USA) could benefit from a few campy gay fascist rallies."

amen to that.

Barry Manilow to thread, pls.

you should take off your filter to allow polls, some of ILM best threads are inside these polls.

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Doors, though i understand why the are loathed

where do you live where the doors are a secret shame? or barry manilow for that matter. they are beloved icons of filth. barry has very devoted fans. they're famous for being really devoted!

I personally know probably two dozen people who love both Mannheim Steamroller and Trans-Siberian Orchestra.

thought manilow was in ref to "campy gay fascist rallies"

ah okay. though they are probably more like old lady rallies now. i'm guessing. the ladies have always loved barry.

I grew up hearing a lot of Barry. And I still like him.

Was he ever huge with The Gays?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ib-Qiyklq-Q

I know I'm going down the Best Of/Greatest Hits route here but is it more likely that many hold negative opinions w/ Queen because their 'rock' side wasn't often enough, at least with the hits? I think their versatility esp. with what became hits after the mid 70s has ruined them for a lot of people

My manager had a Counting Crows song for the first dance at her wedding. She's 26 ffs

Ugh so many of you are so bad at this.

Why are people even talking about Queen and ABBA on this thread?

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Apparently the Barenaked Ladies have sold 15m albums worldwide and I've never met anyone who would admit to liking them.

wasn't there a Damien Hirst piece called "The Inconceivability of Somebody Liking Some Gay Shit That Doesn't Rock in the Mind of a Dead Shark" or something like that?

Also this may be a British thing but how many people know anyone who will rep for the work of Staind?

"Boney M and Modern Talking sold hundreds of millions of records yet despite the general rehabilitation of disco no-one with a reputation to lose reps for them."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW8qt6xLo4Q

Yes, Boney M did a lot of great stuff.

Mumford and Sons?

all of these mysterious people you are looking for live in lincolnshire btw

Alice Cooper's stage show was definitely more theatrical but his music is mostly basic hard rock (sometimes a little too basic for me, actually), even a bit garage at times. (snip!)

This thread going for some sort of record for wrongheaded posts

I already acknowledged that I don't know his catalogue that well. I was specifically thinking of Love it to Death/Billion Dollar Babies that well since guy asked about the early 70s. Yeah, definitely, his music got more theatrical later.

Also, Barenaked Ladies fans are ubiquitous in Canada.

i mingle with uni students on occasion so i've met nuff Mumford fans

What have I told you before about going into student pubs

what, "Go into Student Pubs, young man" ?

I went to a cookout last summer with a bunch of old college friends, all in our thirties now. The Mumford was really pumpin' that day, I can tell you.

break me a fucking give with this shit, 'ooh those faggy limp-wristed limeys can't ROCK!' was tired enough when bangs and meltzer pulled it in the 70s.

I never said the words 'faggy' or 'limp-wristed.' There were plenty of great English bands active at the time: Yes, Genesis, Emerson Lake & Palmer, King Crimson, Atomic Rooster, Van der Graaf Generator, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Motorhead...my point was that the particular theatricality of Queen, T.Rex, Roxy Music, and pre-Berlin Bowie were all in some sense antithetical to the undisciplined raucousness of rock, and seemed to me to be a calculated attempt to subvert that sort of oversexed, caveman abandon and make it more palatable to twerps and (in the case of T.Rex) small children. (I've always felt like T.Rex songs, with their nonsense lyrics and crudely sugary production/neutered mix, sounded like a kids-show version of rock 'n' roll, as though a song from Sesame Street had actually managed to ascend the charts.) (And yes, even seemingly hyper-disciplined prog bands like Yes and Genesis had elements of anarchy and raucousness I have never heard from arched-eyebrow bands like Queen, T.Rex or Roxy Music. Hell, ELP went berserk all the time, especially live.)

"This thread going for some sort of record for wrongheaded posts"

its like a rorschach of wrongness.

yeah the undisciplined raucousness of ELP was a wonder to behold. i miss their oversexed caveman abandon.

okay is old Pink Floyd really really different from Animals/Dark Side/Wish/The Wall because "oversexed caveman abandon" as a descriptor of those albums is the funniest fucking thing

old pink floyd is like, teacups and gnomes and shit.

and better, way better

i just like the word "undisciplined" in connection with Yes or Genesis.

yeah the undisciplined raucousness of ELP was a wonder to behold. i miss their oversexed caveman abandon.

You mean like when Emerson was sticking knives into his keyboard? Me, too.

BTW, Pink Floyd were never worth a shit until they booted Syd Barrett. English teacup/lace-cuffs psychedelia is maybe the only thing worse than English theater-twat "rock."

It meant they got detention for not handing in their work, and they never went!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPL_SV3n7IU

FEEL THE OVERSEXED CAVEMAN ABANDON

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dionysian batshittery has been played out since it became compulsory for healthy male teenagers i.e. sometime around 1964 i guess

IF YOU'RE NOT ROCKIN' YOU'RE PROBABLY A COMMUNIST

Also, Barenaked Ladies fans are ubiquitous in Canada.

I've said it before, but I had a mild case of culture shock during my first week of college, in Michigan, when it felt like I was surrounded by Barenaked Ladies fans. This was 1996 (before "One Week" hit); most were from the Detroit suburbs, which I gathered occasionally felt the creeping effects of Canadian pop culture.

hmm, challop keeps you alive!

okay is old Pink Floyd really really different from Animals/Dark Side/Wish/The Wall

Yes.

Dark Side Animals Wish The Wall

Try Ummagumma, DJP.

I don't know if I'd call it "oversexed caveman abandon" but it is very different. (Tbh, I wouldn't even really apply that description to Elvis or the Beatles.)

"BTW, Pink Floyd were never worth a shit until they booted Syd Barrett."

:(

I love Barenaked Ladies, but then again I'm also Canadian.

Queen have some good songs which are undoubtedly overplayed and many which are just plain terrible (Bicycle Races b/w Fat Bottomed Girls has to be one of the worst 7" singles of all time) but their best stuff really is great, I've certainly got a lot of time for Queen II and Sheer Heart Attack. Does anyone admit to liking 'Queen + Paul Rodgers' though? 2008's The Cosmos Rocks went platinum.

I knew lots of people who liked the BNL in the US too, though, tbh. That was after "One Week", admittedly.

xpost that's just gross

Anyway, iatee was OTM. It's not hard to find people who admit to liking any of these bands.

English teacup/lace-cuffs psychedelia is maybe the only thing worse than English theater-twat "rock."

Wrong wrong/wrong-wrong wrong is wrong the wrong wrong wrong than Wrong wrong wrong-wrong "wrong."

I had a roommate (from England!) in lolcollege that brought three cassettes with him, the first Cranberries, the Barenaked Ladies one with "Yoko Ono", and a dramatic reading of War of the Worlds. Insanely pleasant, super smart guy and a solid roommate, but he had nearly the literal worst taste in music.

Listening to the Cranberries and BNL in the 90s (I assume) makes him no different than like half the people I knew.

although having to hear nothing but those two does sound pretty miserable, admittedly!

Yeah, this was '95-96, and the problem was that those two albums were ALL he listened to. Both myself and my other roommates had huge collections which we told him to listen freely from, but it was always those two albums.

(And yes, even seemingly hyper-disciplined prog bands like Yes and Genesis had elements of anarchy and raucousness I have never heard from arched-eyebrow bands like Queen, T.Rex or Roxy Music. Hell, ELP went berserk all the time, especially live.)

I would agree, to a point. Yes and Genesis in their prime could go off on batshit tangents, although Yes would frequently balance these out with interminable stretches of bland cooing.

But Roxy (pre-Manifesto) slays them all because of Paul Thompson. Nobody in any of those bands (with the possible exception of Phil Collins) swings harder. And if you haven't heard Roxy's "Editions of You" (or anything off the first three records), then no, you haven't heard elements of anarchy and raucousness.

Was gonna say, "Do The Strand" alone has more anarchy and raucousness than all of, say, Fragile. And I like both! A lot!

who needs trolls when we can troll ourselves

Seems to me that there's a complete misreading of T-Rex going on on this thread. How is Marc Bolan more "arched eyebrow" than Genesis?

oversexed abandon of yes and genesis and atomic rooster as opposed to t.rex, roxy, and bowie. can't stop thinking about that. but maybe t.rex and roxy and bowie were all about the wrong kind of sex. hmmm?

also this:

"crudely sugary production/neutered mix" to describe how t rex records sound makes me think someone hasn't heard too many t rex records. cuz you can't just point to one of their records and say that's how they sounded. they were all over the map.

i mean you could just say glam is gay and prog rules and be done with it.

With a side order of England is gay and America rules. Marc Bolan's "arched eyebrow" period was surely all the capering pixie nonsense (which I like too btw) which preceded his teenybopper period and which said teenyboppers' older brothers were happy to embrace.

we just need geir to show up and the circle will be unbroken.

i thought adele was a good nomination, she is so populist in a weird and old fashioned way. i genuinely think most of my friends couldn't name an adele song.

I can't name a song U2 have recorded in the last 20 years

that's cool. have a BEAUTIFUL DAY!

Oh there's that one

the song that put me off hearing new songs by u2 forever

well actually that vile sweetest thing song did that (except it was an old song reworked). but the video pushed me over the edge(no pun intended)

i mean you could just say glam is gay and prog rules and be done with it

Come on, dude. You ought to know me better than that at this point. My objections to glam (and whatever Queen and Roxy Music call(ed) what they do/did) are purely aesthetic, not about sexuality.

its a tone thing. that's how it kinda comes across. to me anyway.

Prog isn't very gay, that much is true

Well then the problem is you, not me. I am aesthetically conservative, but I am not some kind of gay-basher.

my point was that the particular theatricality of Queen, T.Rex, Roxy Music, and pre-Berlin Bowie were all in some sense antithetical to the undisciplined raucousness of rock

Whatever dude

(Bicycle Races b/w Fat Bottomed Girls has to be one of the worst 7" singles of all time)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY

Styx is the only one up there I like, unless by "Creed" we're talking about the 70s Creed that George Smith is always repping for

yah i dig 70's creed too. great album!

i suppose the bootleg cut "fingal's cave (sex vocal)" might qualify as oversexed caveman abandon. i mean, if you also assume cavemen were high and goofy.

"my point was that the particular theatricality of Queen, T.Rex, Roxy Music, and pre-Berlin Bowie were all in some sense antithetical to the undisciplined raucousness of rock"

i mean, if this were true would it be a bad thing? there's nothing wrong with striving to do things differently last time i checked

i mean you could just say glam is gay and prog rules and be done with it

Come on, dude. You ought to know me better than that at this point. My objections to glam (and whatever Queen and Roxy Music call(ed) what they do/did) are purely aesthetic, not about sexuality.

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haha you're a fuckin moron

my objections to glam are purely aesthetic, not about one of the biggest component of pop music aesthetics.

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