Search: Metal that Sounds Like Glenn Branca

I love Krallice, Corrupted, and Liturgy, all of whom I listened to today. But what more is there that approaches this sound, with dense dissonant guitar climaxes? (Corrupted is a little different from the other two, of course, but I mentioned them because of some of the most climactic moments.)

The new Altar of Plagues album, maybe? Teethed Glory and Injury.

Or how about Shining? One One One is probably my favourite metal album of the year so far.

Portal have that swarm-of-angry-wasps guitar thing going.

I will second portal for sure

this thread inspired me to listen to helmet at 7 in the morning.

deathspell omega! fas - ite... being the best album!

also, yay, didn't know shining had a new record out! metal!

I know that Deathspell Omega album really well. I really like it. That's probably in the vein of what I'm looking for, yes. I think it might actually be the album that first got me seriously interested in avant-garde black metal, actually. I don't think I know Portal or Shining at all; will look into those. I remember disliking Altar of Plagues' 2011 album but I'll try the new one. Page Hamilton's connections notwithstanding, Helmet didn't ever sound much like Branca, did they?

i disliked that too, sund4r, but the new one is on some kinda art-wave-industrial flavor, v. listenable.

the latest portal is good.

Wow, you guys are right about Portal's guitars. "Plasm" and "Awryeon" are awesome. I thought I was a black + doom partisan but I'm definitely into this.

OMG "Oblotten"

"Page Hamilton's connections notwithstanding, Helmet didn't ever sound much like Branca, did they?"

no, not really. band of susans did. i just always think of helmet when someone mentions branca.

Not sure if they're really metal, and it's from ages ago, but try Blind Idiot God.

Oh, I know and love Blind Idiot God. I'm looking more for contemporary extreme metal.

I take it you're probably familiar with Gorguts' Obscura-album? That's my go-to album when I'm in need of some wicked dissonant guitarstuff. But I haven't heard any Branca so I might be off by few miles...

just listen to darkspace over and over. forever.

I can't say I listen to Obscura a lot but it is pretty amazing in its way. I think it was Kris who originally recommended it to me as a metal album that actually gets into genuinely atonal territory at times. What it does is a little different from what the albums in this thread do, though. Branca is never really atonal: more like dense textures of microtonality and/or unrelieved dissonance, often with a repetitive or drone-like basis? However, if there are other things that sound like Obscura, I'd be interested in hearing about them too!

I have mp3s of Darkspace III but haven't listened to it in a while. I should pull both of these out.

Epheles - Je Suis Autrefois

oh christ yes, Gorguts - Obscura and Darkspace - III are both wonderful, wonderful albums that I've praised on here before

actually considered recommending Darkspace earlier but they're less Branca, more...being sucked from an airlock. forever!

Yeah, Darkspace almost sounds closer to a wash of white noise to me.

servile sect

Yep, Teethed Glory and Injury does seem like what I'm looking for. I'm especially liking "Scald Scar of Water" and "Reflection Pulse Remains".

jazkamer's "metal music machine"

^yesssssssssss

Although not metal per se, I remember seeing Caspar Brotzmann Massaker perform at CBGB's after the amazing "Koksofen" album came out and it was everything that I (and the editor at the time of Metal Maniacs who I dragged along to the show) could have hoped for and more.

Here's a choice moment from the disc, a mixture of avant garde stylings, distortion, arcane melodrama and evil throaty German spoken word perfectly suited for fans of the dark arts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE4r4l2PKfc

I saw CBM a couple of years after that, when Home was out. They were opening for Helmet. Amazing stuff; I still listen to them all the time.

it all leads back to Helmet.

I'll rep f/ all four Portal recs, but no Aluk Todolo? the krautrock tag usually fits (which tbh isn’t far from Branca), but on a handful on tunes they conjure a wash of guitar murk that should sooth yr drone craving:

Occult Rock I – http://youtu.be/ow1g4xd7gTM
Obedience – http://youtu.be/EtRFod2cVAE
Woodchurch – http://youtu.be/eTLxY0KVzn8
Untitled (side B) – http://youtu.be/EaumUJQX-hA

even on their kraut jams, they push a clockwork dissonance that occasionally circles Lesson No. 1 and The Ascension if not the symphonies (though Occult Rock I is yr clear priority here, and I’d take an album or three of that squall).

Love the last Aluk Todolo album. Will be bookmarking this thread.

sooth yr drone craving

^^^

wtf w/ this renfaire crackhouse prattle

anyway, here are a few more recommendations:

Azonic – Shore: http://youtu.be/wzuaHxi91C0
(a longer, slightly different version of Andy Hawkins’ River Blindness)
Azonic – Beyond the Pale: http://youtu.be/Wue_LUOjiPk
Oren Ambarchi – Raga Ooty (Slight Return): http://youtu.be/8Gi6btVnv1s

idk, in my house Branca p. much functions as corrosive Teutonic ruction that pours smoothly into Skullflower and F/i through cracking hot speakers, but I’m at peace w/ my disgusting savagery, and you may find yrself delighting in the more subtle aspects of the symphonies (in which case the Oren Ambarchi and Azonic may seem left-field, but w/e).

these next two tracks are even further afield, but the prehistoric lizard currently staffing the drone wing of my brain keeps returning to these metal-ish sheets o’ guitar crush, so:

Bowery Electric – Slow Thrills: http://youtu.be/X09G1bDRocs
Flying Saucer Attack – Standing Stone: http://youtu.be/WGfn6fBU-io

(I’m not gonna pretend they’re metal, but at wilting levels they wield a metallic scrape that you may dig.)

Bosse-de-Nage and Sannhet are kind of heady, dark and dissonant, albeit not as complex as DSO or Krallice.

Bosse-de-Nage - The Arborist
http://youtu.be/lxMryekibBA

Sannhet - Absecon Isle
http://youtu.be/Ds3og9jk0t8

That Bosse-de-Nage track isn't exactly what I was asking for but I really like it all the same! Good rocking feel. More stuff like that would be good too.

bosse-de-nage is more like hello late 90s post-hardcore

Antediluvian has a pretty good Portalesque thing going
http://youtu.be/z8XSESEcX1Q

Yeah, the Sannhet track has something of that vibe too (+ Sonic Youth/Live Skull) and I kind of love it. Will definitely look for more.

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hey snd444r

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfbLWHT7vUU

This Sannhet track actually is pretty much exactly what I was looking for: http://youtu.be/gsseHCsmg60

omg like 26 minutes in i think they switch from guitar to jet engine for a lil bit

then like billy corgan acoustic vibes on some pisces iscariot shit

Yeah, I thought of the Pumpkins too, as well as Mogwai. I'm still at 21:30 too.

The bit around 23:15 is pretty cool.

Wow, I see what you mean about the jet engine.

the new Deafheaven record would be a good bet IMO, and looking at the thread I see j. has already recommended it! Try also Cobalt.

^i really like this record. apparently i just love black metal that has majestic major key progressions.

Castevet is another band somewhat adjacent to Krallice. Mounds of Ash is a great album:

http://youtu.be/-50jZQYSOuM

i love the shit out of that castevet record but i think it's a bit over more to the post-hc side of things. maybe because the songs' structures are much more taut and articulated, much stronger drum role - no five-minute hazes of /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

Pulling out Deathspell Omega's Fas Ite... more over the last week, I'm reminded of why I haven't played it as much over the long term despite its initial impact. While I'm really into most of the individual sections of all the songs, I'm never really sold on how they are combined into compositions. It's hard for me to see a clear relationship between the whole and its parts most of the time, even when it comes to the proportions of the sections. It's the same thing that frustrates me with ELP and "Paranoid Android" and "Carry On Wayward Son". While I haven't really analysed the last Krallice album formally, everything seems to work as a whole more intuitively. Maybe I should think more about why that is some time.

Really love the Deafhaven album though. How are their older albums?

I gave one listen each to DSO's Paracletum and Drought; maybe those would stick better?

Blut Aus Nord never got mentioned in this thread. I didn't keep up with them after Mort but I just checked out 777: Cosmosophy a day or two ago. It's pretty great!

Huh, so Roads to Judah is even more what I was looking for than Sunbather is.

GAME OVER

http://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/discontinuities

^^^from this year; wins this thread absolutely and completely and I say that as someone who has heard a fair number of the bands mentioned. And I'm only on the first track!

Wow, that first track!

He's got some discography: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Jute_Gyte/

Wow, I think you may be right about that album.

i wish you would analyze that last krallice, i've played it loads but still don't have a super strong sense of any of the songs/songs' structures. i've even gotten into 'dimensional bleedthrough' since then, which used to sound to me pretty all-over-the-place when i was mostly only into 'diotima'.

Whoa - great find, imago!

Apparently, this guy designed his guitar by taking a regular Strat and building a new fretboard with 24 frets per octave.: http://metatonalmusic.com/Swordguitars/index.html

years past matter is definitely the most... amorphous, compositionally of the krallice albums. had a hard time with it at first but at some point it clicked (I think blasting it while speeding to denver airport trying to catch a flight was a turning point) and eventually became my favorite of last year.

think I'm gonna post Jute Gyte to the main metal thread - it's genuinely next-level shit, as they say

post game over bonus round:

For a while when I tried to remember what Roads to Judah sounded like, I would think of a Vattnet Viskar song by mistake. Silly error, as this album's great in its own right, but yeah somewhat similar vein.

http://vattnetviskar.bandcamp.com/album/vattnet-viskar

I bought the Jute Gyte album in ALAC format. It sounds gorgeous in lossless!

I think it's going to be an AOTY contender for me. (Metheny/Zorn and Stetson are the other strong candidates atm.)

It and Stetson pushing the top of mine too. Not heard Metheny/Zorn - my kinda thing?

I don't really know your tastes when it comes to this sort of thing but you can hear the first track here: http://www.mtvhive.com/2013/05/29/masada-metheny-zor/

(I was referring to "Mastema", the first Youtube there.)

That's very cool.

A couple of the tracks are smoother/mellower than that, which turns off some people, but I like that too. I think he's probably the best living non-classical guitarist.

yeah I definitely would prefer the crazier end of this particular spectrum, so long as it's well-composed &c

listened to it 2 or 3 times and it's something I'll pursue. zorn has too much music though

Imago, have you heard Nels Cline Singers' Initiate? It pretty much completely inhabits the crazier end of that spectrum, with none of the smooth/glossy elements that you get with Metheny.

Heard a couple of tracks. In fact preferred the Metheny thing, although Cline's stuff is obviously very pretty. Metheny thing was sonically more appealing.

Would the Haino/ORourke/Ambarchi album releases this year be included in this? I haven't heard it but liked Imikizushi and feel like that at least somewhat fit these parameters

*released

Will listen later when I'm at home. Meanwhile, you gotta hear Jute Gyte.

Would the Haino/ORourke/Ambarchi album releases this year be included in this?

Mmmmmaybe. Definitely good stuff and worth hearing, though. As is the Stephen O'Malley/Steve Noble duo album from a year or two back.

Yeah, we're on a tangent here (my fault). The Haino/O'Rourke/Ambarchi album is really awesome but isn't really Branca-metal imo.

Never heard of O'Malley/Noble!

Here's a review (not by me). It's on Bo'Weavil.

I just checked out 777: Cosmosophy a day or two ago. It's pretty great!

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 02:40 (1 month ago)

oh fuck yes this is wonderful

Caspar Brötzmann put out a new album this week with a group called NOHOME that includes bassist Marino Pliakas and drummer Michael Wertmüller, who are also the rhythm section from Peter Brötzmann's Full Blast group (and who are fucking amazing). The album also includes FM Einheit of Einstürzende Neubauten on two tracks, playing "steel." It was recorded at the group's second-ever concert, last August. Here's video of their first show, from last June:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBZhW2ZuzpI

^ relevant to my interests

Jute Gyte might have become the best rock band in the world last week:
http://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/vast-chains

Yeah just a cursory listen and: wow

So now I just added that NOHOME to my Amazon Wish List...

this jute gyte thing is working for me

does this marginalize traditional black metal?
if so, i'm digging it

i don't know what it does. it's arguably a good deal more hellish than that gorguts/ulcerate type stuff that so cruelly frosts my muffins, but i'm finding it p entertaining. sounds like a dying rust whale.

what's with the meninas

that caught my eye too, especially since his last album's cover also used an art history 101 staple.

both paintings have mirrors in the background and if you look at the pictures uploaded on bandcamp, the cover of the actual CD for each is a magnified detail of the reflected image

I think this fellow might be my favourite artist currently operating. Vast Chains is beyond Discontinuities - well beyond it in fact; crazier, darker, more intense - above all, sustained. I'm fairly obsessed with it right now.

does this marginalize traditional black metal?

this is really cool, but I don't think it marginalizes anything -- rather, it ties things together. In this case, micro-tonality (and also a similar idea as lamont young had on the Well-Tuned Piano) and black/death metal. I only have heard the previous album thanks to imago recommendation, but on the whole, it doesn't seem as "rocking" (?) as, say, an old-school Gorgoroth or Darkthrone record, but the compositions are totally different. I mean, it sounds "composed", as opposed to banged out and pummelled via lofi production and blastbeats. Seems like something to listen to, at least first, rather than fall into. But it does hit hard, and I respect it going for the jugular. Anyway, really interested thus far.

The way you guys are describing this music makes me want to listen to metal!

technically more Terry Riley but definitely hear some Branca in here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2EGKt8yONI
Orthrelm - OV

Yeah imago my impression is that Vast Chains is actually a step up too.

Note that in the liner notes it says it was made between 2011-12. I wonder if dude has two or three better albums in the can at this moment

I agree with what people have been saying about that new Jute Gyte, Discontinuities for me was easy to admire but hard to love, this one tempers the microtonal oddness with more tangible riffs and structures that make it just a bit more pleasing to listen to.

I'll second Orthrelm too, Mick Barr is a beast

i wonder if they (jute gyte) go for kind of a droney doomy plod because it helps the micro-tones resonate and collide and pile up, seems like if they played faster, more rhythmically orthodox metal (of some non-doom style), it would get just cacophonous

o wait this next one's a lot more frantic

which makes for more of a no wavey sonic youthey chimey thing, with more 'unison' lines

mommy, i'm scared

this sounds like what people say sonic youth sounded like in the 80s

I'd dispute that it's a 'droney doomy plod' throughout - while the pace is rarely what you'd call hurried (Jute Gyte being of the 'let it stew slowly into shape' school of musical resolution) there are practically ambient passages interspersed with frantic, extremely noisy sections that are held back from cacophony not by sonic reserve but by excellent and thoughtful composition. The guitar tracks are overlaid with a great deal of care and technical precision, so that a certain clarity is always present even through walls of microtonal & polymetric distortion. I don't think the speed is what makes it listenable. Microtonal metal played in the blistering styles of Orthrelm or Deathspell Omega might also work, as both of those acts are similarly precise in their composition. I just think Adam K is a brilliant, brilliant songwriter who has found an incredible way to realise his visions.

oh xposts :D

i do think there's more of a lockstepping to the arrangements once they hit higher speeds, for the most part, but then speed confers a different sort of effect on the sounds, say, when they become relatively more repetitive, than at the slower speeds where things sound less repetitive, more lyrical

yes - at the slower speeds it has the feel of a great, slightly and deliberately disjointed engine, a lyrical treatise as you say - perhaps one that attempts to reveal the chaos immanent in order, or vice versa - but at greater speeds it has a more direct & annihilatory purpose, the pigfuck into gnostic oblivion, the menacing, chanting expression of an attempt to express whose moment has already flown (and yet, cruelly repeating - the repetition ensuring it wasn't just a passing thought but a state of perhaps permanent insanity)

the final track is a particular masterpiece as it manages to synthesis these two speeds into a single lumbering-yet-lightspeed manifesto, a wavering, confounding slab of sound. in fact I'd say this album achieves this synthesis to varying degrees throughout - and does so more successfully than its already-brilliant predecessor

the melodies here are so, so lovely, obv; so lovely and so blasted

that poor obliterated pig

this track is pretty badass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVWF__KVJHs

mentioned elsewhere, but i just ordered CD-Rs of the last two joots off dude's bandcamp. he looks to have more than 20 full albums available, all currently in print on CD-R & avail for download. anyone dug back beyond the recent "microtonal black metal" stuff? loving discontinuities and vast chaing, but content to explore there for the moment.

hobo chaing ba

theres a ton on Spotify

The Jute Gyte music seems interesting but the vocals suck-diddly-uck. I have download links for the two new ones but haven't used them yet because of that.

interesting interview with Adam K:

http://thegrindthatannoys.com/2014/03/27/jute-gyte-interview/

Rivalling the Jute Gyte album imo:
https://soundcloud.com/flenserrecords/sets/botanist-vi-flora?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=facebook

Better link:
https://soundcloud.com/flenserrecords/sets/botanist-vi-flora

Yes! The new Botanist album is so fucking majestic and moving. I love it. Gives me a Branca vibe big time.

okay I'm way into Botanist

"tags: metal avant-garde black metal experimental hammered dulcimer San Francisco"

could this be the album to finally bring my mother into the black metal fold???

yeah that's amazing

reminded me of the latest MBV album a bit

Hm, maybe I should actually listen to the MBV then. (And, yes, Botanist's stuff is almost all done on amplified hammered dulcimer.)

my GF called Botanist "dream metal" when I played it the other day, which is roughly 1000x better as a genre name than "blackgaze"

idk i love the name "blackgaze", sounds p metal - gazing into the depths of blackness

Sund4r, I'm mostly referring just to the last three tracks of the MBV album, which are so good it makes me wonder why the whole album isn't like that

I also think I prefer 'blackgaze', maybe amended to 'blackgauze', for that is the secret to the word shoegaze's success. Botanist as 'dream metal' rather than blackga(u)ze I'd entirely agree with, though - it's coming from a slightly different place to yer Deafheavens and whatnot. It's much weirder, much more psychedelic.

~muslimgaze~

like darkthrone, but w/ islam somehow

you're practically inviting me to google 'islamic black metal' and then make a trite infographic about it

i was wondering where ppl were talking about botanist. this new album is the shit.

btw, for islamic black metal start here

oh yeah I recall you showed me a few (some impromptu copyediting iirc). ty!

that's just a link to a search i made to keep up w/ ~MENA metal

http://www.youtube.com/user/SpaceBlackMetal/videos
I have a feeling I'll be hitting this stuff heavily while I wait for Darkspace IV IIII to drop

oh wait, wrong thread? I know people were discussing Darkspace somewhere recently--mighta been on the Deafheaven thread

it was. I basically rep for them whenever the (solar) winds change

darkspace aren't branca metal tho, they're totally space-bm as the youtube name implies. nobody else does it remotely so well

they can play here tho coz this thread is basically about the awesomest metal

now playing: Polish band 'Cold Womb Descent' because o_O that name........
this is pretty chill but the drumming is hella-weak/synths way too forward in the mix

next up: Celestial Oblivion, "Prison Without Walls"

whoever curates this youtube channel is a hero, obviously

it's kind of blowing my mind right now to see how many bands are out there following the Darkspace blueprint with minor variations in production quality & use of movie samples....... do we need a dedicated a space-black-metal thread? because I am determined to find the diamonds in the rough

Celestial Oblivion was a lot more interesting, structurally & texturally. have now moved on to Galaktik Cancer Squad, whose buzzy Switched-On Bach synth harmonies are about the farthest thing imaginable from the images conjured by that name. enjoyable!

i dunno i was listening to darkspace the other day and it sounded like a less-committed / less-ecstatic paysage d'hiver. later parts sounded a bit more spacy/malevolent, but.

lol i just realized upon doing some googling that that dude is in darkspace. sonic signature, check.

just recalled the other space-BM band I'll really ride for: Progenie Terrestre Pura. check 'em out if you can bernard

here

http://progenieterrestrepura.bandcamp.com/album/u-m-a

it is sick

plus i'm in italy rn so forza PTP

(it's probably closer to, say, Ocean Machine-era Devin Townsend than Darkspace, but this should be of equal encouragement)

I will wholeheartedly second Progenie Terrestre Pura. Their album is hypnotizing and way the fuck out there.

k I will check it out as soon as this Cosmic Church song ends in 9 minutes

Cosmic Church is a great band.

^this dude's proper-trad-BM as fuck and had PTP, a decidedly avant/experimental BM outfit, authoring his album of the year, which should demonstrate its quality, coherence & entirely un-gimmicky nature

will also check out Cosmic Church yeah

On the subject of space BM this album to me is pretty similar in vibe but not necessarily in style to both Darkspace and especially PTP and if you like those you should definitely check this out

http://petrychor.bandcamp.com/album/makrokosmos

Doesn't sound anything like Branca though admittedly

Oh and Oranssi Pazuzu are pretty spacey too, psychedelic BM that blends these elements really well rather than having 'metal' and 'prog' sections awkwardly jammed together.

cool :) plenty for me and andrew to check out

Loved loved loved the last Oranssi Pazuzu album

this Petrychor is so far extremely great

um this is fucking phenomenal

this is one of my fave youtube channels. lots of stuff i wouldn't have heard (heard of) otherwise:

http://www.youtube.com/user/AtmsphericBlackMetal/videos

ANOTHER NEW JUTE GYTE

http://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/ressentiment

released approximately 1 minute ago

impromptu MTSLGB listening club: commence

absolutely fuck yes. best artist in music imo

Halfway through the second track, this might actually be better than Vast Chains.

omg wait for the third track

and dear christ the fifth track, might be the best so far

have his vocals gotten more tolerable, or disappeared maybe? I would have loved the last one as an instrumental record.

Yeah, that's a stunner.

2xpost

his vocals are still there but the music is if anything even more kickass, so he increasingly comes off like a master of despair rather than simply a magnificent sufferer

this closing track is showing all the signs of being......beyond, above

:O

I do sometimes feel a bit of a sense that his compositional skills are becoming sophisticated enough that the vocals might feel superfluous at times. I don't mind them the way some people seem to but they're generally the least interesting element. I'm at about 6:45 in "The Grey King" and they're working for me here, though.

The Grey King is some monstrous realness. Up there with The Fire of This (which is saying a LOT)

goddamn

I *just* got Vast Chains, there's no way my brain is ready to process this

i'm going to do the microtonal trilogy marathon at some point either tonight or tomorrow :D

the climactic bit (i.e. pretty much the entire second half) of The Grey King is just...just...

BLACK VOID OF LONELINESS

The Grey King is song of the year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eAZHnfe394

If I could transfer the Hey QT fuckabout discussion to this song I would in a flash. This is...almost disturbingly good

I'm still processing Vast Chains... never noticed how awesomely hellish & cavernously fucked "The Fire of This" gets in its final half. Dude knows how to close an album.

yeah I mean, The Fire of This is monstrous, intense, lethal stuff, but this is heightened to the grisliest, most demented panic of mind I think I've ever heard

I actually think the closer of the first part of the 'trilogy', Acedia, is by far the weakest song on all 3 albums! but the two 2014 closers, yeah I mean, fuck

Ok I downloaded Vast Chains.

Jesus christ. I think this the first use of microtonal scales I've heard that didn't just sound like some muso nerd in-joke to me. The parts where he resorts to straight up power chord chopping for a few seconds are like brief islands of sanity.

welcome to the cult, so glad you could join us

srsly ressentiment. srsly. the man himself regards it most highly of the three, as do i. the most exciting/intimidating aspect is that he claims all three albums are primitive in comparison to what he's working on now. gimme that sweet primitive fire tbpfh, i can wait

So far I'm finding that I still want to play Vast Chains all the time but can't really spin Ressentiment the same way. Maybe it's a matter of time?

Can get why Ressentiment might be too much - it's one of the most intense albums ever made, I'd wager. You have to be in the right place for it. Vast Chains, while almost equally brilliant, is slightly more introspective, more measured. Ressentiment is vicious

Hm, maybe that's it.

"The Fire of This" pretty much shattered my mind into a million glittering shards last night, so I can finally officially say I am fully on-board the Jute Gyte wagon. Holy fuck, man. I've been listening to his stuff fairly regularly for almost a year now, but it didn't really click until last night for some reason. Now I need to hear it all.

I don't know if this is Branca-esque at all, sometimes it sounds like mid-80s Greg Ginn playing black metal, sometimes it sounds like Jute Gyte without the mictrotonality...

http://horsesacrifice.bandcamp.com/album/ambergris

Name your price, too.

This band might actually sound more like the Theater of Eternal Music on this album but what the hell:

http://morkomusic.bandcamp.com/album/iv

We really enjoyed both of those. The Ambergris is fantastic!

is that the royal we or do u have a partner who enjoys metal that sounds like glenn branca, next question how

also lol ok imma hear those now

ambergris is sick

This Morko record is great. Sounds like a black metal This Heat. Admittedly I'm predisposed to love anything that sounds like "insert genre" This Heat.
Also - Did it really come out in 2008? Kind of amazed it's never crossed my path.

It did! I think they did a really limited run of physical copies - I actually got it because they saw a review I wrote of their second album and emailed me and offered a copy. Their newer one (long Finnish title, also on their bandcamp) is pretty weird too but different in style - IV almost seemed like an extended black metal Fall of Saigon, to continue the This Heat comparison.

Glad you guys liked Ambergris, too - as soon as I heard it I thought of this thread!

Damn. I need to track down a physical copy. I also need to book more Finnish shows for my bands so I have an excuse to go there and beg Morko to play the show.

is that the royal we or do u have a partner who enjoys metal that sounds like glenn branca,

The latter

next qn evidently a mystery to be solved by each adventurer alone

morko is gr8888888 omg

lol they're finnish of course they're a cross between BM and Circle

This ambergris is almost making me do the ol' invisible orange which means it's fucking rad

yeah it really is ridiculously good

For fans of discordance and Portal levels of chaotic murk, the most recent Aevangelist is pretty good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihG-B0WCePk

HOLY FUCK

https://soundcloud.com/flenserrecords/mastery-valisvessel/s-Wykgz

I'm loving this track, it's an American 1-man project that sounds a bit like DSO played double speed with hints of Mick Barr-ish avant-shred. There's bits that sounds rather like Jute Gyte too. But it's probably at least as twice as complex as anything I've just mentioned.

I've never heard anything quite like this, though.

The album's out this month on The Flenser, who continue to be one of the best labels out there atm

Yeah, that's great.

The Flenser is quickly becoming one of my favorite record labels

this is so great

album is here btw: http://www.heavyblogisheavy.com/2015/02/20/mastery-valis/

MtSLGB fav Jute Gyte is back with a new album..... of synth noise v_v

btw if I f/w the Aevangelist from 2013 Omen Ex Simulacra but wasn't crazy about it, do I need to hear the new one? they say it has saxophone?

lol I got the email update too. going to work, can someone listen for me plz

xp Aevangelist does a weird thing to my head though, which I kinda dig -- has to do with the way the percussive death assault is so distinct, sonically, from the sotto voce wailing of lost souls & creaking metal in the background, so you can still hear the quiet parts even in the midst of the loud parts, except that they don't quite make sense anymore, & your brain rapidly oscillates between these two radically incompatible sides of a single perceived gestalt. it is the white&gold/blue&black/dancing girl of cavernous metal atmospheres

I just listened to the first three songs of the new Jute Gyte album on Bandcamp. If you're expecting something that even remotely connects with the Branca metal vibe, you'll be sorely disappointed. It sounds like third-generation Autechre to me. I'm not sure why he'd even release it under the Jute Gyte moniker, as it has nothing of the innovative, hallucinatory quality of his black metal stuff. Not that it's bad, just kinda boring and unrelated to the last few releases.

Anyone heard Akhlys "The Dreaming"? It's one of the dudes from Nightbringer. I was gonna post about this album in the rolling metal thread but thought the folks in this thread would especially appreciate it. I think anyone into Darkspace / Paysage d'Hiver, The Work Which Transforms God era Blut Aus Nord, Krallice on opioids, Emperor on DMT, etc. would dig this record. It also has dark ambient sections that move from haunting, blissful vibes to truly deranged and evil vibes seamlessly. When the guitars are laid on thick, it feels like Branca heaven.

not yet but yeah I've heard great things about it, looking forward to give it a listen

Streaming here: http://www.terrorizer.com/news/listen-to-the-new-akhlys-album-the-dreaming-i/

On track 3 now. Sounds pretty good so far.

holy shit Akhlys

Awesome thanks.

Uh... not quite sure if this fits the boundaries of the thread (if indeed there are any, but I have been toying with the idea of starting a catch-all avant/weirdo-metal thread though it might just be me that would post in it), but it's got the guitar contingent of Krallice along with Weasel Walter and Some Other Guy.

https://encenathrakh.bandcamp.com/releases

It basically sounds like four dudes playing four different deathgrind songs, with very occasional moments of synchronicity. On one level I like how fucked up and chaotic it is, on the other hand it begins to lose impact after a while and I'm not a fan of br00tal death vox.

Available for only $701.26 or more.

Oh and I wanted to like Akhlys but I found it had Dark Space disease, I mean it just hisses and rumbles away with zero impact. For me, anyway.

loooool

the pricing (and the art, and the track titles) surely have this down as a giant spoof

it even sounds like a spoof

the thinking person's anal cunt

"NO DIGIPAK. NO LOGOS. NO SONGS. NO TRIGGERS. NO LYRICS. NO BASS. NO SWEATPANTS. "

ok they're basically doing the whole j0hn d + colin s. barrow black metal fakeposting thing but with real death metal: http://foreverslainzine.com/2015/04/interview-encenathrakh/

:D

When we started, we were teenagers, fucking around and just learning to play, but we quickly learned the techniques we needed to create our vision, inspired by tons of sick bands like Infested Blood, Brodequin, Pustulated, Bound and Gagged, Orchidectomy, Amputated Genitals, Urinary Tract Infection From Severe Pus Clots, Guttural Secrete, Foetopsy, Anal Birth, Liturgy, Haemotodipsomania, Paracoccidioidomicosisproctitissarcomucosis, Wormed, Last Days Of Humanity, blah blah blah.

You can imagine the extra brutality of having a real mortician in the band! ha ha ha. Let’s just say he “loves his work”.

this is even in the style of Janne Karlsson et al - it's like they've read ILX

anyway, best metal lol in a while

Subversion and purist-baiting is fine by me, but I'm still not sure if it's 100% a 'joke' band since Mick Barr's kind of infamous for monomaniacal and inscrutable concepts taken to an absurd degree.

Though they're obviously having fun with the 'promotion'.

And those crappy electronic boop boop boop toms are pretty LOL as well but I'm not familiar w/ Weasel Walter enough to know if that's one of his 'things.'

weasel walter, based on what little i know, would be bang up for a joke metal album

More new Jute Gyte

https://soundcloud.com/jute-gyte/sets/ship-of-theseus-preview/s-w4yKZ

For me the first track is a bit dull until the last minute, almost self-parodic, the second might be my favourite thing he's done.

Just as I leave the house!

Need to finish listening to his Autechre impression from earlier in the year, got a sneaky suspicion it's great

xp That opening riff on the first track is a bit sadtrumpet. Cosmic sadtrumpet.

Both tracks are great

Pretty into the first track.

yeah I like the first one more too

I just checked out 777: Cosmosophy a day or two ago. It's pretty great!

Finally bought this. What a beautiful album.

Blut Aus Nord could become one of my favourite bands if I didn't chicken out at the size of their discography and just not listen to them

fuck yeah the opening track of Cosmosophy is so amazing

Wow @ those Jute Gyte tracks, I'm really starting to feel like his despair wormholes are cutting ties with all other forms of recorded music

The way that riff in the first song just seems to ooze downward forever...

Fucking christ, Machinery That Renders Debt Infinite

Tbh, I've been fatiguing of JG a little, esp after listening to more microtonal heavy guitar rock. I don't know if it's just the volume of stuff he puts out or something about the vocals and/or drums. I will def listen to this new one though.

What else will you recommend?

Well, the BAN and this, which was mentioned on the other thread (more heavy psych/prog). Neither of them is doing quite the same thing as what Jute Gyte is doing. Apparently, Rob Guz of M. A. N. also used a quarter-tone guitar (with 11 strings!). Will need to listen to more.

Ha, right after posting that, I put on "Grief of New Desire" and it sounds really powerful.

I was slightly dismissive when I linked the preview tracks, because like sund4r I was getting a bit tired of JG. But I think he's definitely upped his game this time. I always thought that more layering/sound design would be benificial rather than just having these endless grey corridors of sound and that's exactly what's happened. More dynamic too I reckon.

I like that Asteroidi Esadecafonici too, it's interesting to hear microtonal rock in a less harrowing context. More fun.

The new Jute Gyte scared the shit out of me last night when I listened to it in a dark room on headphones. The only other album I've ever had to turn off before on account of being terrified was the first Khanate. I've still never been able to get through an entire Khanate album because they freak me out so much for some reason. I imagine I'll be able to get through the new JG eventually, but last night it had me spooked. I do love how certain parts lock into an almost Black Sabbath/Electric Wizard groove momentarily, before heading back into the inky, slithering darkness. And hella Branca-scapes throughout. I think he might really be onto something on this new one (not that the previous records were anything to sneeze at).

Tangetial to Branca-metal but for some totally non-harrowing microtonal rock, this is 31tet country-rock that I also think is quite good.

hahaha this is ace

will listen to that asteroidi lot soon too

for now, all is alt-universe hoedown

Think it is fair to say now that Kalmbach has an ear for a closing-track ballad

http://profoundlorerecords.bandcamp.com/album/a-northern-meadow

oh cool!

opening track is v enjoyable, metal taken to new levels lol

(^doesn't really sound like Branca, and doesn't use microtones, and tbh I don't love it--I really dug bandmember R. Loren's "side project" White Moth, still one of my favorite albums of the decade, but this turned out to be not as fractured or frenetic,as that, compared to that album this feels like slightly generic Pitchfork-arty blackgaze to me--but there are still a lot of good things about it, like a smart deployment of those aching overtones from VI: Flora. Also, Vindsval from Blut Aus Nord, and Gorguts and Krallice member Colin Marston (who also produced White Moth) are both in the fold, and I know those are all bands that fit well within this thread, so there's definitely some interest here. I just wish it didn't remind me so much of a black-metal Muse)

xp lol I didnt think you were awake! Dont mind my litany of backhanded compliments

I like the use of electronics the most, but yeah it's not Brancametal, it's maybe most similar to something like Progenie Terrestre Pura? Alert Siegbran, anyhow

Right on, I half-thought to post it on time travel but it seems like that thread is p much a flatline these days.

It'll burst gloriously back to life in time for the EOYs

ok this gets less interesting. but it triiied

gonna try that asteroidi lot now

nah this is cheesy, dubiously-written and the microtonals are a gimmick, and jute gyte is more fun :D

sunday's performance of branca's "ascension three" is being streamed live:

http://bangonacan.org/2015/june/bang_on_a_can_marathon_the_winter_garden_at_brookfield_place

I still have to check out the 1st Pyramids album, but I highly recommend White Moth which is on Spotify, and which is way more kitchen-sink fractal nu-metal/digital hardcore xp to imago

For some reason the first Pyramids album never grabbed me as much as I thought it would, but I absolutely love A Northern Meadow. Never thought to bring it up on this thread though.

Been digging this today.

http://www.nocleansinging.com/2015/10/16/an-ncs-premiere-genevieve-escapism/

Jute Gyte/Imperial Triumphant-ish ugliness with fretless guitar.

I read "Austin Weber" as "Anton Webern" for an instant and got excited.

Listened to it this morning. It's pretty cool.

I love that metal found a use for microtonal guitars that doesn't involve endless shredding.

And Genevieve sounds good on first listen, I'll have to give it more time later.

gave Akhlys a listen on the living room speakers last night -- been listening to it occasionally all year because sometimes I kind of like it and sometimes I have a weirdly negative "this is bullshit" reaction to it. but I've only, 'til now, been listening on headphones. good headphones, but always headphones.

I strongly recommend giving this album some room space, it's a very good album but better suited to the air than the closeness of the cans. really glad I stuck with it, it's excellent.

ty I have liked what I've heard & will do likewise

Anything from this year I need to hear?

Well there's this Ecferus album, not the most outre thing on the thread but it's a bit Krallice-y

https://i-voidhangerrecords.bandcamp.com/album/pangaea

And it's from a few years ago, but a band called Ecferus released one single EP that isn't the most experimental thing in the world but has one of the finest, lushest wall of guitars I've ever heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFeo4TR-Z3s&ab_channel=AtmosphericBlackMetalAlbums

Maybe one day I'll be able to post literally anything without making a mistake, the above link is for a band called Enmerkar and since the yt doesn't seem to work for me here's the bandcamp if anyone's interested:

https://enmerkar.bandcamp.com/releases

The man himself placed for the first time on:
POLLERO!: ILM's Top 100 Notated Pieces of Music

For the Jute Gyte/Ambergris fans...

http://speedritualrecords.bandcamp.com/album/ange-de-la-mort-phnylketonurics

Check out "Vengeful Prophecy."

Oh, that's good stuff. On my list for tomorrow.

Sounds more like Portal/Swallowed to me than anything else but yeah, good stuff.

Is the guitarist using a whammy there or do you know if it's something else (customized instrument, tuning, etc)?

You mean for general queasy riff warping? I think so.

can't work out if there's something to this or if it's directionless bollocks

https://vmthanaachth.bandcamp.com/album/inferotemporal

since we don't have a thraed for metal that sounds like SY and/or PiL:

https://witchtrail.bandcamp.com/album/the-sun-has-left-the-hill

Yep, just bought that on first listen. Really nice guitar sound and riffs. My partner called it "surf metal", actually.

Was it nominated in the metal poll?

it was. spoiler: my metal aoty

Alright, I need to hear this now.

my god, you do!!

one of those albums where a really good first half yields to an overwhelming second

Oh man

Oh man

Oh man

Annoyingly there are two bands called Witch Trail, both put out albums this year. Both are very good.

Omen xp

The GB record is great btw, I've only recently listened to it when compiling my EoY ballot. Caught it just in time.

Afloat off the Witch Trail (indie-metal variant) album is quite something

have we heard this yet? https://votsband.bandcamp.com/ i am listening now and it's sounding great. openly referencing jute gyte, kayo dot and loosely basing the concept around andrei rublev, except if andrei rublev was about being trans

it's made by the following individual

POV: 1950s housewife shows you her microtonal riffs pic.twitter.com/Yvre4b10K0

— Virtual Trobairitz (@bastard__wing) April 4, 2020

I think this kind of fits the bill... Dola from Poland.

http://open.spotify.com/album/5jmtf6yXV6na6xFfzDZsCw?si=dmeLGhtoTqedHPKyTivOKQ
http://dola.bandcamp.com/releases

Liked that.

Haven't seen this thread in a while---my gateway to Jute Gyte and others, thanks.he GB record is great btw,

I've only recently listened to it when compiling my EoY ballot. Caught it just in time.

― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, February 3, 2020 2:34 AM

You mean The Third Ascension? Made my Uproxx ballot too, so great:
https://glennbranca1.bandcamp.com/releases

Sorry for messing up my paste of your post!

NP, I indeed meant The Third Ascension, glad you're enjoying it Dow!

thanks 2 gaudio for posting that Witch Trail, finally got around to listening to it and it's great, love that twang.

my pleasure, GOTT PUNCH!

have we heard this yet? https://votsband.bandcamp.com/ i am listening now and it's sounding great. openly referencing jute gyte, kayo dot and loosely basing the concept around andrei rublev, except if andrei rublev was about being trans

it's made by the following individual

Album is pretty nice on first listen. May well buy this. Tracks 3 and 4 sound like they're in 12tet, I think?

The 17edo guitar is interesting. Each division (so each fret) would be about 70.59 cents, I think, meaning P5s would be pretty close to what we're used to, only about 6 cents sharp of 12tet P5s and 4 cents sharp from just P5s. But what happens to thirds seems most interesting: you'd get intervals of about 282.35 cents, 352.94 cents, and 423.53 cents, so either a very flat (18 cents) minor third, almost an exact neutral third (halfway between major and minor), or a very sharp major 3 (by 24 cents, and actually more like 38 compared to a just M3). Ofc, some precision is lost when distorting but distorted microtonal tunings still produce different effects than distorted 12tet. Did Ron Sword make the guitar?

I do wonder about these guitars. With 17edo, I could see how you could play on most of the neck with very precise fingering (and she seems to, although I'm sort of interested to hear what it sounds like past the 17th fret without distortion). With the 24tet guitar, I do wonder what technique you could use to play near the octave or higher, to get your fingers just between the frets. Even Sword seems like he's squeezing when he's halfway there on this instrument: https://youtu.be/RWCwMW48FO4?t=90

Also wonder how tricky it is to ensure the intonation of these things. Probably things to ask the Xenharmonic FB group.

I think I might have actually asked some of this once and got an answer that I don't remember.

is there any reason, in this era of digital audio, why metal guitarists aren't recording 100 guitar tracks on everything

It's still a lot of work tbf.

album is going well. hope you like bird sounds in your extreme microtonal metal

— Virtual Trobairitz (@bastard__wing) February 26, 2021

beaky hails

New VOtS single: https://votsband.bandcamp.com/track/nowherer-single-2

On the noisy, brutal side. I think I actually like the primitive drumming.

fun chords!

New Jute Gyte album: https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/helian

Omg he's practically been releasing an album a month. I blinked and missed it.

These are mostly rereleases, although that one^ has some self-remix work so I'll def check it out. His next album proper should be along at some point soon.

Meanwhile, this thread's queen to Kalmbach's king appears to be reaching...new heights

preorders are up for my upcoming microtonal metal album, Nowherer!! and here is a playthrough of a segment from the 21 minute closing track, Oscines!! pic.twitter.com/ht3CS1fMYW

— Virtual Trobairitz (@bastard__wing) April 2, 2021

https://www.heavyblogisheavy.com/2021/04/22/exclusive-premiere-interview-experience-microtonal-black-metal-bliss-with-victory-over-the-suns-nowherer/

Oscines is...unreal

Oh yeah, that's a good one.

aoty

very good

Good motorik groove with brain-frying dissonance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LFUrAa-mCM

rather than bumping the rolling metal to a resounding chorus of silence, let's use this thread for some real-deal shit

first of the day's efforts: KOSTNATENI has fucking DONE IT

https://kostnateni.bandcamp.com/album/pal

more to come, though...

yeah obv the new Victory Over The Sun too, not that ILM seems to care at more

My copy of that Kostnateni is supposed to get here later today, heard a lot of god things.

It seems increasingly hard to get the ilx metal crew excited about nearly anything black metal these days. Seems like the (understandable!) desire to avoid the Nazi sympathetic black metal musicians has led more than a few people around here to just swear the genre off completely.

Kostnateni and VOTS are explicitly and obviously decent people, clearly against any of that shit. Basic comprehension is usually enough to confirm when someone's fine. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater is unimaginably dumb

Jute Gyte devotes Bandcamp Friday proceeds to the National Abortion Fund. Ayloss aka Spectral Lore just did a record in support of Mediterranean refugees. Black metal that is explicitly For Good Causes is very easy to find

Even more morally ambiguous cases like Ruins Of Beverast are no more sus than the average metal musician I'd say

Oh absolutely, I know, I'm happy to throw money to folks like Jute Gyte and those fighting the good fight. I'm just saying, it seems like black metal is being given a wide berth around here and I know at least one sometimes ilxor has explicitly stated they've walked away from black metal.

Gotta mention these guys too

Here you will tread upon a spark, but there, and there, and behind you and in front of you, and everywhere, flames will blaze up. It is a subterranean fire. You cannot put it out." - August Spies, one of the anarchists executed after the Haymarket Affair. pic.twitter.com/u6WcCNmNuA

— Dawn Ray'd (@DawnRayd) May 1, 2023

Ashenspire too. The list goes on

But as I say, I don't need my BM to be explicitly hard-leftist to enjoy it. It is possible to dig around about an artist if you're not sure, and it's usually pretty clear if they're Mean and Nasty. And then once you've done due diligence it's your decision whether to try to enjoy the music or not

ANYWAY. Thantifaxath tomorrow too, if you can believe :D

Yes! I’ve had it on preorder, and have been listening to the preview tracks. They’re incredible, especially ‘Mind of the Sun’. I can’t wait!

I want a

Search: Metal that Sounds Like Glassworks

thread (y/n)

together we can defeat evil

https://putrefactiverecordings.bandcamp.com/album/the-pederast