CHANCE THE RAPPER

Do we have a thread for Chance the Rapper/Acid Rap ?

― Van Horn Street, Friday, September 6, 2013 11:43 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've been meaning to start one cause it's my favorite album of the year by far.

― The Reverend, Friday, September 6, 2013 4:08 PM Bookmark

Yeah, so the thing that makes this album great is it's the sound of an exuberantly joyful character working through some hard shit, the production is colorful, and Chance brings a manic energy to whole thing, bouncing between off-the-wall raps and bluesy scat at will. Also "Pusha Man/Paranoia" is the best rap song this year. His first tape, 10 Day from a couple years back was good too, if not quite as fully formed.

http://www.datpiff.com/Chance-The-Rapper-Acid-Rap-mixtape.483826.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8nIHZ-0kS4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0DcVbSYWUA

yeah i like the exuberance you mention!

reminds me of pharcyde sometimes

I think "Chain Smoker" is my favorite deep cut no one talks about off of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bigsk2g7xO8

Pusha Man/Paranoia, Acid Rap and Chain Smoker are my favorites. Hope Favorite Song will be a single. The whole thing is probably my hip-hop album this year.

woah i was just listening to acid rap on grooveshark and "carnival" by natalie merchant on spotify at the same time and they synched up in this tripped out way

natalie merchant had a secret huge rap mashup

I think "Chain Smoker" is my favorite deep cut no one talks about off of this.

lol chain smoker is the only song of his i listen to regularly

streamed the whole thing bc of it, it had some nice songs but none of them hit me like chain smoker

this album is essentially a legit classic to me

The way he switches voices midsong is the source of his strength and weakness imo.

he sounds like what i always assumed donald glover sounded like

chain smoker is ok

ow

I need to revisit the tape, because when I think about it I feel more fond of it than I did when it was new and the quirks of his voice/delivery grated on me easily. And that new song with Lil Wayne is so good, I kinda hope that becomes his big single.

Still cant knock the K'naan comparisons out of my head BUT I still really like him and this tape.

Hadnt heard that song w Wayne, ty. Always good to hear wayne just straight-up rappy rapping.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKOWz0rfe7Y

Still listen to this regularly, and still marvel at how incredible it is. Can't list many recent rap albums that match this level of song craft while sustaining this level of energy while featuring rapping this consistently strong. Incredible.

"Chain Smoker" is just glorious, but my favorite is still "Lost." The way he romanticizes an empty hookup, looking for meaning that's not there, is just so sad and pure. You rarely find that level of affection in rap songs about actual romance, let alone flings

There is no duds on this album.

^

there are 3 tracks in a row dragged down by guest verses though

I kind of shamefully like that gambino verse :/

oh no rev

I love the album, and I know nothing good will come of bringing this up, but I hate the line from Favorite Song about him being a 'slapp-happy faggot slapper'.

Same

Yeah it's a sore spot I wonder what he would say if confronted.

chain smoker is my fav track.

i have a lot to say abt this but will sit on it for awhile.

Naw son go in

finally got around to this, sooooooo good.

i got a lotta love for "cocoa butter kisses"

As of late, my verses seem not so verse-y

where the fuck is matt lauer at? somebody get katie couric in here

I keep reading this thread as parappa the rapper

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2007/07/parappasnd425.jpg

"Everybody dies in the summer/ So pray to god for a little more spring"

One of the tensions that makes this album work so is how it's got all these middle-class rap signifiers on the surface but also has all this heavy fucked up street shit lurking just off-camera and sometimes intruding.

otm

this could go on the sad rap thread : (

right, it doesn't at all feel like its running from this stuff

dilluuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

deej's profile article on him is v good

http://www.complex.com/music/2013/09/chance-the-rapper-interview-complex-cover-story

http://cdnl.complex.com/assets/CHANNEL_IMAGES/MUSIC/2013/09/content/1379030127_complexchancetherappercover.jpg

i'm glad complex is finally putting "fast forward" on the cover instead of "pause"

Gonna see this dude tomorrow night.

I like this and I'm glad it exists but there's something about his voice, or one of the voices he using, that I find really unpleasant to listen to.

I barely even noticed the Childish Gambino verse on first listen, the Ab-Soul verse is the really egregious one here.

I feel like a big part of rap fandom, especially these days, is kinda figuring out what unique or strange voices/rapping styles you actually want to get used to and not be annoyed or put off by. Like it took me a while to come around to Kendrick's voice, still slowly getting used to Chance's.

Ugh that Ab Soul verse though.

yeah absorbing this release in small chunks has been the surest way for me to submit.

tmi

let me put my mouth where you absorb small chunks, boo

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Yeah, his voice does grate a bit. I have to admit...

It did for me when I'd only heard "Juice" and that's prob why it took me a couple months to check it out until I saw so many people I trust talk about how good it was. But as soon as I put it on it was immediately taken with it. Total Albums that you know are going to be brilliant within the opening 20 seconds of the first track status.

also agree with matt but i think ultimately i could probably power through the sound of his voice if i felt more compelled by what he was saying with it. just don't really feel like i need early yeezy told to me again by wyclef on ludes

the tape opening with a re-do of an old Kanye tape intro is the opposite of an auspicious opening imo

although in generally i find the whole thing more compelling and less kanye-ish than rtc does

yeah look i dont want a bunch of dudes jumping down my throat telling me he's not exactly exactly like ye, i can see that

huh: http://soundcloud.com/1-800-dinosaur/life-round-here-feat-chance

the tape opening with a re-do of an old Kanye tape intro is the opposite of an auspicious opening imo

― Jean-Claude Brand Ambassador (some dude), Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:44 AM Bookmark

Hmm, I didn't realize this. I just heard the horns and voices and it was like all the sunbeams were pointed straight at me for a moment.

the outro of the final track is one of the absolute best parts of this tape

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t5Jt2mkrzc

Well then Chance made something better out of it.

One of the problem with the voice it is that at its most grating on Juice, which is the first single. Once I powered through it, I was fine. I really hope he doesn't get buried because of the voice like Joanna Newsom did.

Not impressed with the James Blake remix, and I usually really enjoy James Blake.

hate it

I really hope he doesn't get buried because of the voice like Joanna Newsom did

isn't she doing pretty well for herself

haha what an odd go-to point of comparison

well unfortunately there's no history of rappers with "weird" voices achieving wide success for us to draw on

Kendrick?

Wayne? Bizzy Bone? Boosie?

eh joanna newsom still seems like the most logical comparison to me

o i c

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/assets/3238875/butt-alternate-angle.gif

his voice takes like a song to get used to what is wrong with all of you

xp loooooooooool

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/assets/3238875/butt-alternate-angle.gif

let me put my mouth where you potty, boo

haha

Sorry, wasn't aware of many rappers whose voice grated some like Chance's. It is an odd comparison.

Maybe it's the "neh neh neah" voice that's the most annoying... And some of the singing as well...

http://www.complex.com/music/2013/09/chance-the-rappers-favorite-albums/joanna-newsom-ys

Ha.

this talk about his weird grating voice is strange to me because it's so similar to lil wayne's? i mean not identical but certainly in the same lane, and it's made pretty obvious at the start of the tape when he says "please say the rapper"

i'm mostly with rtc in that i don't find what chance says particularly compelling, it's all a bit too backpackery for me though i don't hate it or anything

what does 'too backpackery' mean in relation to what he's talking abt

i def thought his earlier stuff was a little too much The Craft Of Song and not enough of him in it, but recent stuff is more fully fleshed out.

Man...I can't at all understand anyone who says they don't find him compelling. "Paranoia" breaks my heart every time I hear it. I can't remember the last song that did the same.

yeah i don't get that criticism at all

Rapping about your close friend being stabbed to death doesn't strike me as excessively backpackery tbh

Lol at the idea of reducing a goofball like him to I R SERIOUS RAP tho, even if he does have some shit gettin' too real moments

that one's not on acid rap

idk it's all fine i guess but it doesn't feel distinct, or anything i feel i need to go back to? nothing about it is substandard but i can't pinpoint anything that really stands out for me, i feel like it all reminds me of other stuff

oh the weed coughs are pretty dnw i guess

I must be in a morbid mood because it's the death-related lines that stuck with me.

that one's not on acid rap

"Paranoia"? It's like part 2 of the second track.

I got a new backpack. I'm gonna put the Chance album in it!

oh is that why there's a huge gap in the middle of "pusha man", i did wonder

sorry, it didn't hit me or grab me then :/ i admit my attention had almost completely wandered by the last few tracks though. (this was a long-belated relisten, i hadn't heard it since my first go)

we all sing along to the chorus on Cocoa Butter Kisses, right?

the last few tracks are the best on the album

Agreed. "Acid Rain" is awesome.

I think he'll be great live, despite my earlier posts. And do think it's clearly one of the best tapes this year.

"acid rain" is totally gripping

I love the part about missing the diagonal grilled cheeses

what is the line about the need for an introspective dance track

the "Pusha Man" through "Juice" stretch is completely perfect music imo

more like pants the crapper

the last few tracks are the best on the album

OTM.

def

the whole album is the best part of the album

^^^ my memoir title

Yeah... it was okay.

Maybe chanting U.S.A. and running off stage at the end isn't an awesome move in Europe. In fact, there were more than a few amateurish moves, including cutting off tracks early and sort of criticizing the audience for not 'having fun', but I guess he's still finding his feet in front of different audiences.

criticizing the audience for not 'having fun'

Everyone does this now.

I mean, obviously not acts who are good enough live to make the audience actually have fun, but there are a lot of butthurt whining performers around nowadays.

idk having seen them perform up close sounds like someone who isn't used to the way a rap DJ interacts w/ the crowd

dj oreo is a thorough fuckin party DJ

'as of late, all my verses seem not so versey'

he killed live when we saw him in toronto.

show sold out. originally was 15$ ended up being way more expensive if you didn't get tickets in advance (we did).

high energy all the way through, crowd knew the words to most of the songs, chance was loving it. granted he wasn't opening for a big tour - it was a day off in between stops on the mac miller tour and he was the headliner at the hoxton which is small-ish but still, he definitely knows how to work a crowd.

Actually, yeah, I thought DJ Oreo was great. The intro was amazing fun.

But don't get me wrong, the show was fine as a whole. I go to rap show often enough, but was surprised that they really took it in the direction of full blown party atmosphere. Sometimes the hype and vibe works to just enhance what's already there, sometimes it feels a bit forced. Maybe I just wasn't feeling for some reason.

Under the circumstances, for a Wednesday night in Amsterdam, they had to work hard and in the end it was pretty crazy.

Really picked up on the Eminem influence on Chance live tho.

more like pants the crapper

― ienjoyhotdogs, Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:59 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

unappreciated

also this album is great. i p much only ever hear about rap from ilx these days so thanks everyone!

more like flaccid rap

Practice back flips, tragic actress // On a movie with no screen
When the only time he loves me is naked in my dreams

i wish i didn't look up what song that was, i wish i never looked up what songs rap songs are

Men don’t comfort or love her in reality. They only have sex with her in her fantasies. In her dreams, he still deeply cares for her (at least sexually)

This guy that she likes doesn’t love her, or really take her seriously, or show her any real affection (sexual or not). And even in her dreams when he does show her “love” it’s only because of the sex. Which isn’t even love, it’s lust. So, either way, she’s not getting what she truly wants from him.

rap genius is dumbq

dumbqs

lolololol.

Terrific gig, loved the trumpet and Chance's dancing.

all of this is great. i love this kid.

http://www.fakeshoredrive.com/2013/12/video-chance-rapper-arensio-hall-show.html/

^^^^^

he's doing everything right and his band is pretty killing.

He is much smaller than I realized.

haha man, so all over the place but still awesome

noooooooooooooooooooo

http://www.missinfo.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/chance-the-rapper-the-source.jpg

haha

neh-neh-neh neh-neh-neh-neh-neh

That 'noooooooo' is bcz Macklemore is man of the year, right?

idk bout that, chance's cover is just horrific

i'm not fully myself, please tell me that's not a real cover?

cool sweater

lol rennavate defended the ugly-ass shirt on twitter too

Spin cover was way cooler

I do like the shirt, actually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qWIGGqSoz4

aw that doesn't have the full skit

is this real? http://www.nme.com/news/chance-the-rapper/74797

ugh, i have plenty of time for chance & james blake but can't see their musical worlds (which are both so fully realized in their own right) mixing well.

would watch the reality show though.

continuing his steak of collaborating with the worst artists

I thought the Life Round Here remix was jarring but I love both artists and I think that if Blake was writing with Chance instead of just plugging him into an existing song that could be interesting.

don't like the sound of James Bluntstep singing but i don't see why he can't do some beats for good Chance songs at least

i wouldn't make too much of this...

Now you tell me. I just bet my pension on a full-length collab coming out by the end of the year.

Weather's above 70 and I been listening to this on repeat

Really picked up on the Eminem influence on Chance live tho.

― MikoMcha, Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:25 PM (6 months ago) Bookmark

Yeah there's this one verse that sounds like a rewritten Em verse, I gotta remember to make a note next time I hear it

like "You Song" and "Tweakin'" better than this mixtape, unless I'm imagining things he toned down his vocal style for 'em

His vocal style is one of the best things about this album imo

https://soundcloud.com/chancetherapper/chance-the-rapper-the-social

This must be a demo. Would be thrilled if he really incorporated the band in the production of the next album.

Frank Ocean-listenin'

https://soundcloud.com/chancetherapper/chance-the-rapper-social-experiment-i-am-very-very-lonely

tube socks
white briefs
gold wrrrist a
watchaaaaaa

tonight

(fancy attire)

http://instagram.com/p/pfVU2_sdXL/#

https://soundcloud.com/chancetherapper/everyday-wonderful-arthur

Additional Vocals from: Wyclef Jean, Francis & The Lights, Jesse Ware, Elle Varner, Eryn Allen Kane, The O'my's, Peter Cottontale & Donnie Trumpet

gdjkshgfjilsdhfjdskahfdsjklfhsjklfhdjsakf

man this turned out great

all his new tracks with his band are pretty great

i almost bought these sweatpants aka "chance pants"

http://i.imgur.com/DyFsNdr.jpg

i have this one

http://cdn.hiphopwired.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/chance-the-rapper-florida-haters.jpg

He made a special shirt for each college he performed at. Go Blue!

http://www.earbuddy.net/wp-content/uploads/Chance-The-Rapper.jpg

Additional Vocals from: Wyclef Jean, Francis & The Lights, Jesse Ware, Elle Varner, Eryn Allen Kane, The O'my's, Peter Cottontale & Donnie Trumpet

SOMETHING WRONG
I HOLD MY HEAD
MJ GONE
OUR NIGGA DEAD

A rap verse in this song would have been nice

Reverend, idgi.

All of the Lights had like 15 famous back-up singers and so does this.

Haha, of course!

http://theredbackpack.tumblr.com/post/96416124375/hey-remember-this-i-was-going-to-contribute-this

I like Matt, who wrote that, but I'm not sure I really 'get' that piece & the connections its trying to make. Or the strawman of white academic criticism that it's apparently an anecdote to? whenever i read academic criticism of rap it tends to be from people of color, because academia is one place where people of color have managed to make more significant inroads of influence

i also have issues w/ Rachel Kaadzi Ghansah's pieces but that's neither here nor there

i like the point about 'good'. i think that's very good. something to do something with.

I've been listening a lot to Acid Rap again recently, and I still can't quite believe how good it is. This album always feel exciting.

http://pitchfork.com/news/57112-chance-the-rapper-releases-no-better-blues/

THAT'S THAT SHIT HE DOOOOON'T LIKE!

His best song since the album release, nothing can stop him.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6289299/chance-the-rapper-new-album-surf-interview

http://i.imgur.com/p2GhNQo.jpg

: )

Wondering if the password to the twitter account gets passed on when a new mayor gets elected

that's sweet, too bad the guy next to chance is a walking pile of shit

Chance the Rapper meet Rahm the Impaler

New track: https://soundcloud.com/donnietrumpet/donnie-trumpet-the-social-experiment-sunday-candy

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/surf/id998076113

how can i download this with my itunes UK account?

it doesn't seem to be on uk itunes but i found this forum with download links http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=165608924

thanks :)

Ooh wee! This is great.

It really is.

Surf is a huge amount of fun, like if someone turned "Good Ass Outro" into an entire album.

Any news re: a physical release?

Surf is kind of annoying.

kind of equal parts enjoyable and annoying I would say? Often simultaneously?

i think the only part that annoys me is the KYLE verse

kind of equal parts enjoyable and annoying I would say? Often simultaneously?

Yes this is true.

obviously a let down after acid rap, still waiting for the proper sequel. it's not all bad, sunday candy is still my track of the year.

if they didn't do enough for you to drop any expectations of this as "the follow-up to Acid Rap" then i think that's your issue

literally every piece about this album was like, 'this is not a follow up to acid rap' in the lede

kyle is def the album's worst part imo

although thematically consistent?

i thought it was chance rapping in character for a while

it's also just kinda frustrating that Chance did a hook for the song that really feels like a very personal mission statement coming from him, and then he lets other people do the verses.

Chance always making himself adjacent to people who are ostensibly similar but not quite (Vic Mensa, Gambino, Kyle) really just serves to help me see what he gets right that other rappers in his lane get wrong.

Equal parts fun and annoying is my response too. I liked it for a couple days before filing it.

more like wipeout

More frustrating than annoying? The way tracks stop just when they're getting going. Can see myself growing to love it tho.

this is more of a side project really right?

haha what exactly are we bargaining with/for here

i have come back to this a lot more than i went back to acid rap, i really like it

if they didn't do enough for you to drop any expectations of this as "the follow-up to Acid Rap" then i think that's your issue

― some dude, Wednesday, July 8, 2015 1:11 AM (18 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i didn't follow all the campaign around it, it's my issue and i'm assuming it.

Even before I saw the vid for Sunday Candy, this felt like what would happen if Michel Gondry made a rap album.

Don't understand why they chose to make you slog all the way through this quite hazy, insubstantial sprawl before you get to Sunday Candy, which is great and catchy and infuriating all at the same time.

fwiw

http://cdn.pitchfork.com/news/60521/dde6f4eb.jpg

https://soundcloud.com/lilblovesthebasedgod/sets/lil-b-x-chance-the-rapper-free-based-freestyle-mixtape

new track

https://soundcloud.com/chancetherapper/israel-sparring-chance-the-rapper-noname-gypsy

the Lil B mixtape is great!

damn chance's colbert performance tonight was really really fun

the new track is awesome too, really what i pictured his post-acid rap music could grow into

i mostly do not fuck w/ the social experiment album but this song is spectacular

how do i set my alarm clock so i can wake up to 'angels' every morning. pierre joy

new song is pretty cool, feel like there's a greater pop song buried in there somewhere but the r&b parts over that production is pretty undeniable. might prefer the live version actually but this + "angels" and even the slowed down "sunday candy" are all very very good

if they're indicative of where his new tape is gonna be it will be a tremendous record

uh

http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/chance-the-rapper-somewhere-in-paradise-feat-jeremih-and-r-kelly-new-song.1967651.html

drunken late night new chance the rapper ft jeremih and r kelly moment. i guess this was on snl?

It was, but with no jeremih or r kelly.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J5bAVKzrBzI

new tape/album this month!

supposed to be dropping tonight

http://i.imgur.com/uSMxxeJ.jpg

cool

so new Chance and James Blake albums tonight huh

really hope they're entirely separate entities

ha

i mean...they lived in the same house at one point, i really was worried circa 2014 that Chance's next album would be a Blake collab thing

oh this should be cool

sometimes i have to admit i get really annoyed by his voice, when it's right i love chance but when i don't want to hear him i REALLY don't want to hear him

i hated that sunday candy video sooooooo much but i can't really get w/ musicals in general though

aw man that's a great video

yea it's more my own thing w/ musicals, they are just too much for me, i feel embarassed for everyone involved including me as an audience member but i know people love them so i can easily see why people would like it

new song is pretty all right imo http://pitchfork.com/news/65439-chance-the-rapper-lil-wayne-and-2-chainz-release-new-song-no-problem-listen/?mbid=social_twitter

the wayne & 2 chainz verses feel more like a flex than logical additions to the song, which otherwise sounds pretty amazing

2 chainz verses always logical additions imo

idk who produced it but it kinda sounds like a kanye beat that exploded

xp otm

i already regret my earlier post. wayne sounds great... he's kinda doing a "let the beat build" thing

"half a milli in the safe another in the pillowcase / codeine got me moving slower than a caterpillar race" is some real good vintage wayne

Love this guy but wtf is w his features

Tape is fire so far

i thought the song with thug & lil yachty was kind of aggressively offputting but yeah

i didnt mind it, even dug yachty's verse altho he's clearly outclassed

its very optimistic music

up on datpiff now for all those anti apple music people (like me)

Hell yeah this is so good.

i could do without blessings and how great

I could not.

What I could do without is the muddy mixing, especially on the opening tracks.

omg "smoke break"

this is good imo

What I could do without is the muddy mixing, especially on the opening tracks.

i had just cranked it up when vocoder Kanye (?) comes in on the first track, and twice the volume of the rest of the mix.

for all the noise he's made about how free releases should be eligible for Grammys, you'd think he'd gotten have a better mixing & mastering pass on this.

also i never thought i'd hear Bieber over a Mount Kimbie sample.

there is so much jesus on this album that it made me feel physically nauseous by the end

like i'd never really connected w/chance on an emotional level and the amount of god-n-family stuff is p much why, and it's so overbearing here

lots of nice beats though but whatever i can't listen to this again

Godless Europeans smh

my firm view that christianity is a poison is informed 100% by too much, not too little, exposure to it

my firm view is that popular music as we know it literally does not exist without black church music

i'm sure you can trace the history of music further back than that, not that it's a relevant point to make

lol i'm as atheist as could but getting down on this for the gospel speak is laughable imo

could be*

why is it laughable to have a negative reaction to overbearing christianity?

I just don't see that it's overbearing. It's part of the esthetic sure.

Stare at the cue cards, take out the juke parts
Take out the God references, just leave the cool parts

i can assure you my antipathy to christianity is not because it's "uncool"

but you understand that the role of christianity is very different on chicago's south side & in its music than it may be for yourself

i didn't frame my reaction as anything other than a personal response

i think you need jesus brah

i have a real allergy to christianity which is why i have trouble with later prefab sprout records but it didn't really bother me on this record at all?

idk its so joyous and fun who cares

^^^^^

i can understand being put off by the relentless positivity, though. brainwasher (who hasn't posted on here in some time ergo i will speak on his behalf lol) told me he's more into vince staples or it resonates more w/ him, and I can understand that pov even if i like chance more; its optimism can be blinding

ideologically im probably also more aligned w/ vince's worldview but musically i much prefer chance

omg that synth bass in the chorus of "Smoke Break."

musically it feels super generous, i get really caught up in the swirl of it

omg that synth bass in the chorus of "Smoke Break."

my man

but you understand that the role of christianity is very different on chicago's south side & in its music than it may be for yourself

― Listen to my homeboy Fontana (D-40), Friday, May 13, 2016 12:58 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ooooooooh!

chance isn't all relentless positivity though and i think that came through a lot on Acid Rap

This feels like the lightbeam gospel that TLOP hinted at but didn't really deliver. I love it.

gospel rap (in honor of new chance)

This might be competing with Lemonade for album of the year.

this is way better lemonade is p bad

i do think he has sort of deemphasized his own rapping... this def shares a sort of structure or maybe ethos w/ the social experiment album where the guests are really foregrounded and he feels more like part of a tapestry than the center of attention. it's obv not as pronounced as surf but it feels more of a piece w/ that than acid rap. similarly there was a sociological perspective on acid rap that i found really illuminating & refreshing and that too has receded a bit prob because the circumstances of his own life have changed drastically.

acid rap was p beats to rhymes trad this one is crazily songy p impressive im liking him more like that, didnt listen to surf

yeah i mean this one is obv crazy accomplished on a music & songwriting level and by comparison acid rap feels stripped down. but there was like an overarching aesthetic vision to acid rap that still felt preternatural to me & something like "good ass outro" was just crazy good on a musical level. i do miss that beats to rhymes thing tho, i really was savoring the second "blessings"

is it crazy to admit I like him less when he sings?

CHANCE THE GOSPELLER

i got kinda tired of him listening to him on acid rap even tho he was obvs very good, guess im feeling him a lil more when he like u were saying steps back a bit xp

CHANCE THE GOSPELLER

― johnny crunch, Friday, May 13, 2016 3:08 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

heh

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5_JmXCNPs6Y

j0rd otm

for me this in no way compares to Acid Rap, but that's ok, can't go home again, etc

jord obvs a lot more chance passionate than me, but i feel like i might be getting into this one

ftr i think this album is great and a logical progression for him, im just picking nits

i got kinda tired of him listening to him on acid rap even tho he was obvs very good, guess im feeling him a lil more when he like u were saying steps back a bit xp

― lag∞n, Friday, May 13, 2016 2:08 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

u should listen to surf

Listening to Sunday Candy on repeat, sooooo good. I liked it before, but not like this.

The way his singing is the rhythm track in Blessings is so good.

i will listen to surf i mean tbh i did at least .5 times already before

I love that 'Sunday Candy' is both a reference to the eucharist and oral sex.

I'm loving this so far. It's more immediate and song-oriented than Surf, but it takes the "party and everyone's invited" vibe that I loved about that project and combines it with the joyous and infectious personality of Acid Rap.

I'm also glad that Somewhere in Paradise didn't make the tape. It's pretty lightweight when compared to some of the tracks that did make the cut.

I keep hearing them sing *Never Trump' in the second part of Finish Line.

juke jam is incred imo

oh god the mix on first two tracks

i hope they Kanye that shit and fix it

for those worried, there's a proper rip with a proper mix out there.

how would a fan 'fix' a mix without the multitrack studio files

is the apple music one better? xp

it's so confusing that this is on 'apple music' but not the itunes store lol

sisi, Imma need your help with this one. Where should I look?

it's so confusing that this is on 'apple music' but not the itunes store lol

― 龜, Saturday, May 14, 2016 9:02 AM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, it was nice when Surf was a free download on itunes, dunno why they didn't do that again unless they really are trying hard to market Apple Music and/or phase out purchased downloads

wonder how much apple pays for these short windows of exclusivity

yeah, it was nice when Surf was a free download on itunes, dunno why they didn't do that again unless they really are trying hard to market Apple Music and/or phase out purchased downloads

― a goon shaped tool (some dude), Saturday, May 14, 2016 8:37 AM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they are trying hard to ... etc

I don't think they're trying to phase out downloads. I imagine the tape will be available for free download when it stops being exclusive and migrates onto other streaming platforms

Apple still makes a good deal of money on downloads, they won't phase them out until they're making more money off Apple Music than iTunes. That's definitely not happening yet

longneck you should look for the aac rip on soulseek

i think i read on billboard that putting it up as a stream first allows it to be counted as an official album release (i.e. soundscan will count the streams up) which, among other things, mean it can be entered from grammy consideration

entered for...

he did a deal with apple though & apple is trying to scale subscriptions to its streaming service

Thanks, sisi. I don't use soulseek but the aac tag helped me search for it. Will give this version a try. Is the apple music version as bad as the datpiff version or is there a difference?

various ilxors currently arguing abt whether chance is an independent artist on twitter but the thing is no one really knows his status, he might just be a disney boy band, or he cld be selling mixtapes out of the trunk of his car, jayz mightve signed him to a 360 deal five years ago

who is future and why does he always like an anemic dog

He's not signed to a label or a publishing company but he's signed to CAA.

which is what... a mafia front????

who is future and why does he always like an anemic dog

― Van Horn Street, Saturday, May 14, 2016 5:56 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its called musical transcendence look it up

finding it hard to get into this, just like surf last year. loved acid rap, but not much chance has done after.

to longneck : i didn't try the datpiff version so idk...

which is what... a mafia front????

In a way

I'm fairly confident chance has not signed a record deal but I do not know the terms of his deal with Apple

I am guessing it is a content deal song the lines of what Drake has with apple

*along

was the datpiff version just a shitty rip of the stream? it's down now

b-sides https://soundcloud.com/dailyhiphopsounds/grownasskid

after a few listens i'm starting to really like it, which is exactly the opposite reaction i've had from other hip hop records this year (except kendrick's)

One of the things i like the most about Chance is that he raps over juke beats and he's really good at it so i'm a bit disappointed cuz this has no juke beats.

Mixtape is so weird. I kinda love it but it doesn't even feel like Chance is on it.

The song "Mixtape" that is. Not this mixtape.

so i'm a bit disappointed cuz this has no juke beats.

^why 'Juke Joint' was disappointing

Mixtape is so weird. I kinda love it but it doesn't even feel like Chance is on it.

― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, May 16, 2016 10:19 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

all songs w thugger are thugger songs, hes that powerful

bieber's hook in "juke joint" really bums me out

er "juke jam" rather

all songs w thugger are thugger songs, hes that powerful

― lag∞n, Monday, May 16, 2016 4:51 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well Yachty kinda outshines him too and that feels so... weird.

not gonna concede that point but it sounds like a thugger song regardless

coloring book is a good album.

bummed out by wayne on "no problem" which is great except for him.

Great album but good lord that first track sounds like complete shit, that low brass noise and the vocoders just crashing into everything else. Pretty sure I'm listening to the supposedly superior AAC version as well.

The rest is nearly uniformly fantastic.

Yeah the «aac» is slightly less abrasive but still sounds like shit, unfortunately. Why did Acid Rap and Surf both sound so much better than this?

maybe he wanted to make it more of a genuine mixtape experience

The rest of it sounds fine so in the absence of a better explanation I'm going to blame Kanye.

when in doubt

Does anyone think this is better than Acid Rain and the best parts of Surf (i.e. Sunday Candy) though? It's mostly v blissful to me but I have a hard time ranking it over his previous work.

I'll take it over Acid Rap, but Sunday Candy is the best thing he's ever done.

i have the exact opposite opinion of this post ^

I agree that it could use more juke beats, but it still has a juke sensibility in parts. Angels, for instance. The interplay between the horns and beats in the chorus sounds quite jukish to me. The end of Summer Friends, after Jeremiah comes in, the beats begin changing, and it almost hints at a juke jam before it ends. In other places, I think the rhythmic interplay from juke is influencing the way Chance rides the beat. The way parts of the songs seem to flow in different tempi.

Anyone know why it's off datpiff? It says that a complaint has been filed against it from some lawyer firm. Is it downloadable some place else without a subscription?

Apple had it pulled, they have an exclusive

Streaming site exclusives are going to become very tiresome very quickly for a lot of people. No one's going to keep two or three subscriptions going and presumably you can't keep signing up for free trials. So everyone will just end up stealing the thing anyway, especially as there's unlikely to be a physical product in these instances.

yeah I've resorted back to torrenting some things after a two/three year hiatus

i'm in the acid rap >>> cb camp

I speak to God in public
I speak to God in public
He keep my rhymes in couplets
He think the new shit jam
I think we mutual fans

Has he been using his voice differently post-Acid Rap or did I just get familiar with it

Same Drugs is so lovely.

Streaming site exclusives are going to become very tiresome very quickly for a lot of people.

yeah i've missed out on hearing a bunch of stuff now (including this chance). i have a spotify subscription & i've always said i'd be willing to pay significantly more than i do now for a "complete" streaming service (especially if it compensated artists in an improved way). but i really don't know if that extends to paying ~$10 a month to multiple shitty tech companies.

not the thread for that discussion, sorry. hope to hear this mixtape some day soon!

i mean you could just use google and find the mp3's...

i pay roughly $30 a month for Spotify, Apple and Tidal because being able to virtually anything I want for the amount that used to buy me 3 CDs is pretty fucking cool and i pay way more for cable TV, which i care about way less.

Ugh I have considered that too but damn there reall has got to be a better way.

i'm not mad at the streaming wars because i feel like it'll have overall positive impacts on the music business that a Spotify monopoly wouldn't.

Or you'll do really well out of it if you're Kanye or Beyonce and everyone else will get the same shitty treatment.

i pay roughly $30 a month for Spotify, Apple and Tidal because being able to virtually anything I want for the amount that used to buy me 3 CDs is pretty fucking cool and i pay way more for cable TV, which i care about way less.

― a goon shaped tool (some dude), Wednesday, May 18, 2016 7:09 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yep

https://blog.vellumatlanta.com/2016/05/04/apple-stole-my-music-no-seriously/

i only use Spotify as background music at home w/my gf, and still listen to mp3s in the car like an old person. not having the option to pay for a digital copy of something i like bums me out.

digging Summer Friends today

i pay roughly $30 a month for Spotify, Apple and Tidal because being able to virtually anything I want for the amount that used to buy me 3 CDs is pretty fucking cool and i pay way more for cable TV, which i care about way less.
― a goon shaped tool (some dude), Wednesday, May 18, 2016 7:09 AM (4 hours ago)

yep
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:02 PM (54 minutes ago)

in my world of young people update: i was talking with a pair of interns working with me last night and it became clear that they didn't know a music marketplace other than the streaming one. They became conscious consumers during the itunes era and have spent all their teens with spotify and youtube. one of them told me she remembered having a big book of cds that she took with her to elementary school.
i always kinda thought that a generation spoiled in this fashion would become dependent and it kinda worked?

we do have a number of active threads discussing music distribution already tho

i pay roughly $30 a month for Spotify, Apple and Tidal because being able to virtually anything I want for the amount that used to buy me 3 CDs is pretty fucking cool and i pay way more for cable TV, which i care about way less.

This is an awesome mindset. I'm happy to pay for a service or two, too, b/c I never want to pirate music ever again. But what does Spotify provide you with that Apple and Tidal don't? They don't have exclusives, do they?

xp yeah, my bad

i think about this stuff a lot, too; it's hard not to. might be appropriate to use this thread instead of just the individual apple/tidal/spotify ones:

Thread For Chatter About The Streaming Music Economy

whoa this record is really good

the features here are great, even wayne imo lol

i think the wayne verse is amazing. honestly wonder if he's gotten off drugs or something cuz there's emotional & lyrical complexity in this verse that i feel like he hasn't shown in like 5 years.

Hold up, get too choked up when I think of old stuff
Move on, put my goons on, they kidnap newborns
In the streets my face a coupon
Her pussy too warm
All these bitches come to do harm
Just bought a new charm
Fuck the watch, I buy a new arm, you lukewarm
I'm Uncle Luke with the hoes
Pretty bitches, centerfolds
Tippy toes around my crib in their robes, just their robes
Half a milli' in the safe, another in the pillowcase
Codeine got me movin' slower than a caterpillar race

well i'd group that verse in w/ the 2 chainz collab album where he's also very lucid and creative

I like that verse a lot. There were a lot of the same shades of emotional vulnerability and openness on Sorry For The Wait 2, as well, but they were understandably overshadowed by the many, many stinkers on that tape. Underdog Wayne is kind of an interesting idea for him to explore; would love to see him run with it on Carter Whatever # He's On.

i think the wayne verse is amazing. honestly wonder if he's gotten off drugs or something cuz there's emotional & lyrical complexity in this verse that i feel like he hasn't shown in like 5 years.

I don't care for the song, but Wayne's verse is his best in years -- otm

yea Jordan otm

In the streets my face a coupon

a rare reference to Wayne's Scottish roots?

There's only a couple years where "Wayne fell off" talk felt 100% accurate to me. Didn't like any of last year's projects though, don't think I ever made it very far into the second No Ceilings where he rapped over a bunch of cut-rate versions of Drake/Future beats

not hearing the wayne verse as solid at all and while some of that is up to the mix some of it is certainly up to taste.

Yeah, Wayne is mostly good again in 2016. Such a relief. 2015 was dark.

I listened to this again and that first track is definitely Kanye's fault, to the extent that I wonder if it was actually 'finished' before his vocals were even recorded, and the whole mix was squashed to allow Kanye to trample all over them. That vocoder is so much louder than Everything else and so out of place that I can't think of another scenario.

kinda in love with this album

ha, not sure why everybody rips the mix on the opener. It sounds very deliberate to me; there's supposed to be a sense of disruption.

it's cuz it sounds terrible

yeah i tried to justify it a few diff ways but I couldn't land on anything solid. its just really bad

On Spotify now. So happy. Smoke Break is the greatest.

i pay roughly $30 a month for Spotify, Apple and Tidal because being able to virtually anything I want for the amount that used to buy me 3 CDs is pretty fucking cool and i pay way more for cable TV, which i care about way less.

This is an awesome mindset. I'm happy to pay for a service or two, too, b/c I never want to pirate music ever again. But what does Spotify provide you with that Apple and Tidal don't? They don't have exclusives, do they?

― Evan R, Wednesday, May 18, 2016 2:10 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah Spotify has the least in the way of exclusives but it's also the one i've had the longest and use with the most ease and keep most of my playlists on, so it's the one i would keep if i was only going to have one.

I approve of this new mixtape

Aaah, there is nothing more resoundingly uplifting than this.

it's great to hear a rap album that's from the POV of, like, a grown man and not some hideously malformed manbaby caricature a la Kanye or Drake or various others

(granted most of what I don't like about modern rap is the actual sonics as opposed to the narratives/personas - this one sounds p great too)

luckily there are a lot of rappers who are not Kanye or Drake!

https://twitter.com/nicosegal/status/797105458070728704

no more 'donnie trumpet', only nico now

good, it was a dumb name anyway

more memorable than Nico tho

it was dumb, but i never even realized it was supposed to be un/related

same

yeah me too.

lol yeah i never made that connection

ditto!

me neither, was a p cutesy name tho, chance crus worst quality

Nico segal is a way better performer name imo

shdve changed it to nico horn-guy imo

thought i made a poorly formed tweet awhile back about Donald Trumpet but apparently not.

i'm sure he's a nice dude but he's only an okay trumpet player, there was something a little too gleeful about branding himself like "I'm the guy! The guy in the hip-hop world who plays trumpet!"

now i'll have to stop referring to my bandmates this way (Jeff Trumpet, Ben Trumpet, Joe Trombone, etc)

u cn still do it imo its good

like the violin girl, whasserame

Miri Ben-Violin?

questuba

not even the worst nickname in the band imo, the drummer goes by Stix

saw chance last night in Phoenix, pretty good cathartic show after this week. only complaint is that, during the 4 acid rap tracks in the show, he barely rapped. Like he would only do the first third of each line (if even that) and let the audience finish the rest while he ran around the stage like a madman.

Coloring Book is great but has too many slow songs esp in the front half, needs more stuff along the tempo of All Night and No Problems. i get the gospel theme but chance is so good at wholesome pump up jams should be more of those

I haven't returned to Coloring Book nearly as often as I have Acid Rap, possibly because "All We Got" is a clunker of an opener and starting off with that track makes me want to put on something else. The amazing songs on here are amazing, though, and "Mixtape" and both "Blessings" have grown on me a lot since seeing Chance live last month

Album of the year

love this album a lot but the new Tribe is untouchable

I might actually like the Jamila Woods and Saba tapes more than CB but whatever the case, this scene/crew/not sure what to call it is amazingly fertile right now. I don't like the Noname tape as much as some others do--I find her to be dour to an extent that becomes dull--but that's also worth hearing.

I haven't listened to All We Got more than once

ATCQ It's awesome, but I feel like I've somewhat heard it before. Coloring Book is unique. The Jamila Woods tape is probably also in my top five or something. Haven't heard Saba or Noname, but the OddCouple tape was cool as well.

i haven't listened to this anywhere near as much as acid rap, tho much more than the social experiment album. i think he deviated from his core sound a little too much... i think "mixtape" is just awful, and idk if "smoke break" really works well at all.

but as far as making a single aimed at radio "no problem" is probably as good as anyone could have hoped for in terms of working on commercial and artistic terms, and "summer friends" is one of his best ever songs. i've been listening to the "blessings" reprise ever since he performed it on TV, and "angels" and "juke jam" are great too. i don't think this in my top 10 which i wouldn't have expected prior to its release but it still has its uses to me.

Jordan mostly otm, but this is probably top ten material to me based on the high points alone.

One of my fav things about Chance is those tiny little moments of vulnerability or sentimentality that he slips into nearly every song. I love the Noname album because it's loaded with even more of those. She has all these casual lines that just gut me.

Typically I don't listen to rap to feel bummed out, but she summons those feelings more effectively than any other rapper right now—the injustice of being dismissed or talked over or not having the love you give reciprocated. So her album isn't the joy bomb that Chance's is but it's a triumph of expression in its own right.

summer friends is one of the great songs of the year in any case

Summer Friends is great but I can't stand the fake Bon Iver bot. It's the album's worst recycled Kanye West trope.

isn't it actually bon iver?

it's a sample of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wScYn10D2vo

yes, which actually features bon iver

yeah I know it says right there on the video

cancelled the last three dates of this European tour

had tickets for Friday :(

coloring book classic imo

bon iver should be thrown into a dumpster

somehow had avoided bon iver until now

coloring book was not as good as acid rap huh

not even close

it was better imo

ya acid rap is still his best by far

Acid Rap >>>>>>>>>>>> Coloring Book >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his management

He's his own management basically lol

despite thinking acid rap is best i think he has grown as an artist and have full belief he will best it soon. my main problem w colouring book is tempo and pacing; i love chance's giddy ecstatic overwhelming embrace the world energy and while doing a gospel album could've channeled that, instead lots of the tracks dragged

more preacher man vibes than like, explosive jubilant chorus

both so great it doesn't really matter to me.

however, kinda wish sunday candy was somewhere in coloring book.

i still think sunday candy is the best thing he's ever done

coloring book is pretty good but acid rap towers over it. but i also think acid rap is a GOAT record so

coloring book is a success tho simply for birthing a legitimate chart/rap chart hit and with a song that is legit good and doesn't betray his ethos/sound really at all

everyone loves him so i figure i'm just wrong but i find both albums completely uninteresting.

the song w/ wayne and 2 chainz is pretty weak imo

also, he gets killed on his own shit

well that is true -- but it's a very good song that was a hit

ok fine I will listen to Acid Rap again

I really love the grownup gospel positivity vibez of Coloring Book, he doesn't put a foot wrong on it imo

Huh yeah acid rap is better, just the rhymes alone

I found it interesting that Chance the Rapper is so popular and yet most of his music is really unavailable in any hard format. It is a unique and modern way of controlling his own content.

I got my Grammys in the mail. Thank you everyone who made this music with me, especially this girl right here. #ColoringBook #BestRapAlbum #butitwasamixtape #IDidItWithGod #ChanceTebow 🤷🏽‍♀️ pic.twitter.com/LLFB8PGzcf

— Lil Chano From 79th (@chancetherapper) October 19, 2017

it's an… unboxing video for his grammys

whenever I see this thread bumped I expect to see something like "Chance the Rapper takes over as host of Prairie Home Companion"

Like it says, 4 new songs:

https://soundcloud.com/chancetherapper/sets/4-new-songs

https://theoutline.com/post/5466/chance-the-rapper-buying-chicagoist?zd=2&zi=wtmlpwtj

wala cam is so good

Chance The Rapper Clarifies He From Chicago https://t.co/CRWhDWxseq pic.twitter.com/lSaDcvVPof

— The Onion (@TheOnion) July 19, 2018

could be a headline about any rapper from any city

sometimes i find chance to be extremely annoying

The Onion better be careful. They might be next.

Wala Cam is incredible

surely "I Might Need Security" is the standout? Strong lyrics, fun use of the sample

Wala Cam lyrics sound very freestyled

don't really care for I Might Need Security but the other 3 (especially Wala Cam) are great and better than most of Coloring Book

feel pretty good about these after more listens... “wala cam” is rly good

work out is dope too, might need security sample is fun but his punchlines are kinda wack

sometimes i find chance to be extremely annoying

strike the "sometimes" for me

hes annoying but makes good music and can rap his ass off is how i break it down to an extent

Lagoon how was the woods

great thanks for asking

I really like the four new songs

lagoon glad to have you back thought leading

Agree w lagoon

New songs R dope

“wala cam” is def my fav but the others are good too

Security is fave even if just cause it led me back to the eponymous Jamie Foxx special

Acid Rap and 10Day now on Spotify.

Haven't listened to 10Day in a very long time, but I can't imagine that it's aged too well. Its best song, "Windows," is the one song they couldn't clear I guess.

this was pretty interesting: https://www.theringer.com/music/2019/7/10/18862239/chance-the-rapper-new-album-acid-rap-rerelease-backlash

LOL, apparently there was a 5-foot alligator (!) sighted in one of Chicago's park lagoons (where I just went paddle boating a couple of weeks ago). Inevitably, it has been dubbed Chance the Snapper, and it has a twitter account.

Ugh I hated that. It’s so corny and doesn’t even make sense. Snappers are fish or turtles. Chance is from Chatham not humboldt park. I feel like the motivation for the name was some weird bourgie anxiety abt a “rough area” projected onto the rapper who soothes those anxieties for ppl

Huh. I thought it was just something that rhymed with "Rapper." I was a big fan of "Romancing the Stone" when I was a kid, and the bad guy in that movie has an alligator pit, and he's aways saying "look at those snappers!"

They could have named him Chief Teef

Ha!

album is out

CocoRosie is on this...

lol

lmao at the contributors

So far, this is not good...

I really want to like this cause I'm getting bored w/ unambitious 30-minute rap records but uhhh

it feels mean to dislike this cause it's so good-natured and warmly arranged but at this point I guess I should just accept this is Not My Thing

I will conclude my remarks by saying "Roo" is quite nice

i did not love roo, but a few other tracks have been pretty good. i'm sure whatever playlist i make of this album will be good, but not at the level of the last two.

hot shower is awesome lol

just got to the randy newman collab and uh...

I like 5 Year Plan, but generally this is not corny enough :(

the outro isn't bad, but the middle section grates like crazy

Is this as bad as they make it out to be? Loved Acid Rap and Coloring Book but the comments I’ve read on this one are not positive at all.

it's not horrible, and I did find the more palatable material crops up later on. it's just a lot of his thing to deal with in one sitting

It’s definitely not bad, but the first two tracks leave a bad taste that lingered. I’m definitely not allergic to his sentimental stuff (Same Drugs was either my fav or second fav CB track), and I think the album as a whole will make more sense in a live setting, but I definitely think it’s a step down.

It's backloaded, yeah, but it's a step down. Nothing as good as Same Drugs, Summertime Friends or Sunday Candy. The productions are too boring.

Def Chance’s New Jersey but still good

this is pretty underwhelming, i like chance's sound so it's still generally pleasant and the production is very lush but the hooks aren't there compared to his previous work and it's pretty forgettable overall. absolutely does not need to be nearly 80 minutes either, but barely anything does. maybe there's a good album in it with half the tracks removed idk

I think the general reception to this is already too negative to even qualify as a New Jersey.

https://t.co/VPP9YZFO0k

I like it^

let's be real chance probably should've left this song off the album pic.twitter.com/KQMIwsmaf3

— charles (@charliewinsmore) July 27, 2019

Definitely cool that a white Twitch streamer with this as his avatar is dunking on a black man for being happy.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/991617769786372096/GxsKCmk7_400x400.jpg

I love Chance. The tweet is still funny

the backlash to it is somewhat understandable especially since chance is kinda corny in general and that grates with me sometimes even though i'm generally a fan, but still seems quite excessive - it's not a bad terrible album just bloated and a bit underwhelming. after listening to it more there's definitely a pretty good album hidden in there, like "all day long", "found a good one", and "zanies and fools" are all excellent among others and it's generally a pleasant listen just too long

man, I think I have strong differences in opinion about comedy with anyone who found that tweet funny.

the tweet's as funny as that song is good imo, ie. not.

this album is not very listenable for me

Album is very good. Criticism is bizarre

Clearly a better album than coloring book imo

this album is good ... for me to poop on

pretty funny how quickly ilx falls to the consensus pressure

this a blast what are yall (naysayers) listening to?

It’s mostly good, just long. I’m gonna try to listen again and start with Eternal.

haven't listened to this yet, but definitely felt in the Twitter air that the knives were going to the out for Chance

i think the production feels generally more polished than coloring book but the average track quality is a bit of a step down, even though coloring book has "blessings" and "how great" which are too much for me

The twitter response has definitely felt like a pile-on, disproportionate to the album quality. It’s been kinda hip to hate on chance since that “ol happy ass” tweet

... yeah, the negative reaction to this record is outrageous

"i got you" is phenomenal let me hear it at a roller rink

man, i dunno anything about twitter response or pitchfork or whatever everyone else is saying; I just know I listened through this about three or four times and there's a lot more bad than good. I like Hot Shower, We Go High, Big Fish. Not sure I wanna go back to mine for more.

i haven't had the opportunity to really dig into this album yet but in listening to it a few times i feel like the memes have really led the conversation here. everyone loved the ol happy ass tweet and now every review basically just says "ol happy ass." (this raises the question of music criticism's function when it makes the same point as a meme but in 1,500 more words, but that's a discussion for another thread.) i guess you could say that the ol happy ass tweet (to be general obv) crystalized feelings about chance instead of drove them but my problem w/ the discussion around this album is that it feels like it's just picked up from where it left off without actually engaging much w/ the album. it's hard for me to imagine the theoretical album that would've shifted the conversation on him... so i also don't think this album, which sounds kinda dope to me, is getting a fair shake

he def didn't help himself by turning "they go low we go high" into a chorus i will say that

https://t.co/VPP9YZFO0k

― Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, July 29, 2019 7:39 AM (thirteen hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

great review whiney

it's true it is great

there's def some stuff on here that doesn't really work -- the song that sounds like vampire weekend for instance -- but in the context of the scale and ambition of the album (the thread of musical omnivorousness as whiney points out) i don't really mind them so much

Thanks guys!

The omniverousness works for me in a way that it doesn’t with, say, Cudi because there’s still this Chance way of rapping that basically stays the same from track-to-track. It’s not like “this is my rock song” (yells) it’s mostly like “what if I was Chance over a rock song”

Anyway, the title track has been in and out of my head all day...

Not sure there’s anything as bad here as childish gambino or action Bronson guest verses

The album this most resembles is “surf” imo

Surf had Sunday Candy, there's nothing here even 0,01% as good as Sunday Candy.

I disagree but I always found Sunday candy a musically grating —way closer to the “happy ass” meme & jokes about him sounding like a youth minister than anything here. It presaged coloring book way more than the rest of surf presaged this. “Sunday candy”’s saving grace for me was his writing on it rather than anything musical tbh

Anyway the surf comparison is more about the world building & patchwork unpredictability, the way the songs seem to spill out from the central concept rather than following some linear narrative

Ran through this doing stuff around the house....seems okay? I'm a mild Chance fan, and there were definitely some moments that felt a little too canned or whatever (Ben Gibbard's voice just naturally grates on me)...but overall it didn't seem out of character for Chance. The online reaction is weird I was expecting a real drastic change in tone or direction.

Also, he's a really good rapper, both technically and flow-wise, I like his flow so he's usually enjoyable to me on that level even if I don't necessarily love the song.

think i'm w/ulysses though i don't see myself going back a lot, but the vitriol is odd to me...

The greatness of Sunday Candy is the way it goes through a thousand different ideas and sounds in four minutes. Also, 'take and eat my body like it's holy' is a terrific line in a gospel-rap song. It's half about the eucharist, half about oral sex. The Pitchfork review is not that good, but the line about how Coloring Book made piety seem like an acid trip was good. Chance's faith seemed so alive, so thrilling, so fleshy and personal and sublime. Now he just sounds like any believer everywhere. This album is so musically backwards looking, and so lyrically staid, it's such a massive disappointment.

I've only listened to the song with En Vogue, and all I have to say is that it's beautiful to hear En Vogue in 2019.

yeah that was good one!

Now he just sounds like any believer everywhere. This album is so musically backwards looking, and so lyrically staid, it's such a massive disappointment.

I feel like we’re listening to two totally different albums. I’m being gaslit by the exact same people who, let’s be honest, overhyped his earlier work

i think the production on this album is really beautiful and spacious and very patiently crafted, and the people who think it's bland are kinda telling on themselves, like they can't deal with chance if he's not overwhelming them with thirty ideas at once. breihan calling it "bright and flat and weightless" smh, shit is dimensional

just kinda love hanging out in this particular backyard

also the shawn mendes track goes

^^ agreed, that's def one of the highlights.

I’m being gaslit by the exact same people who, let’s be honest, overhyped his earlier work

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:22 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

i don't know about gaslighting but this def feels like he went from overrated to underrated

Coloring Book was my favorite album of 2016, but I never really liked Acid Rap either. I guess he is very hit and miss for me, lol.

Acid Rap and 10 Day were both better than Coloring book imo. Still haven't listened to this one yet though.

this album is great and i love listening to it. “five year plan” is AMAZING

i'm pretty sure "get a bag" is better than "sunday candy"

i feel that way also ... calboy sounds good on it too

I really like this album? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

ok this is really growing on me now, the production's so gorgeous and there are plenty of hooks they're just a different vibe to the sort of bigness of a lot of colouring book so that + the length made it hard to really get into at first

latest favourite is "ballin flossin"

Ballin flossin is a highlight for me too. Also big fish — gucci sounds great on that

I do want to apologize to Fred who complained that this album wasn’t corny enough which suggests tho we have v different aesthetic criteria he did listen to this album more than 99% of reviewers — this is def his least corny album at least possibly barring the dark parts of acid rap

I haven't read the reviews but I was pleased that Chance has toned things down a bit? I remember enjoying Coloring Book but also finding it exhausting and I didn't return to it after a few run-throughs.

Also the dark parts of Acid Rap are probably my favourite things he's done.

most of the complaints i've seen have been "this is waaay too corny why does he love his wife so much lol" and i don't get that at all when colouring book went full on "god is great!" for a few tracks and this one is generally chiller and a little more low-key musically too

only a few tracks in and his verses are really good but the choruses are mostly deflating

arent the first two hooks just john legend and ben gibbard

Yes and they’re the reason I had a bad taste in my mouth the first time through

idgi the hook on "all day long" is tight and gibbard really works on "do you remember"

this is a very me thing to post but the gibbard hook is like something green gartside would sing

I’m finally listening to this album now, and... I don’t really understand why so many people are so mad at it? Sure, there are moments that are a bit off, like the white dude screaming on the title track. But for the most part it sounds pretty good.

It reminds me of Three feet high and rising in a way that very few modern rap albums do, lol.

man, i dunno what you're hearing there! i hear a lotta different approaches but none of them sound particularly good to me. More power to you for finding something you like though!

Chance really walked into "wife guy" meme territory, huh

I'm DJing a friend's wedding in a few weeks, what song from this do I play?

Probably several tracks but “get a bag”

I was going to listen to this but then I saw the name "CocoRosie"

One of the funniest ways in which chance ended up at this point, where some of his best material is treated as the worst shit in the world, is that there’s no singular cause... instead it’s like a laundry list of little things, down to him putting cocorosie on his album, a self own so specific that explaining it to someone off ilx requires linking to fifteen year old articles about long forgotten hipster parties ... it really has been career death by a thousand paper cuts

cocorosie only show up for a few seconds too lol

had never thought about comparing gibbard to gartside but their voices do have a similar weird quality to them and i can hear what brad means

it also might explain a reason why i don't really connect with either singer

Timing-wise, he sure walked headfirst into 'wife guy' meme territory

Jordan I'd stick to his bigger/older hits for a wedding gig but that's just me

he should have rolled into the 'i love my wife, iigh' stuff tbh, sold shirts or whatever

still, a great album

if it has a weak point to me its that he's pulled back somewhat from certain kinds of vulnerable specifics, which i understand on a level of what fame does to a person, but its unfortunate it happened on an album that is so defined by personal relationships ... nonetheless, great songs

the stuff that doesn't really work for me on this is down to "hot shower" (which is fun and goofy i guess but his voice is really grating on it), the part on the title track where francis yells a bunch, and "5 year plan" (which isn't really bad just relatively dull and saccharine?)

in addition to all the wife complaints i keep seeing people complain about the production being bland and lifeless which is even more baffling, i really don't know what people are listening to.

twitter really hates this guy now huh. he's on that wave where no matter what he does someone retweets with a 'look at this dork' and everyone piles on the hate

I never even got around to the last one but find the ott blowback kinda sad.

drake toosie slide has had the “salmon gucci slides” song from this album stuck in my head and it still cracks me up that chance and nicki got together for the first time as a voltron of once beloved celebs who suddenly became twitter villains

ha otm. honestly this is my favorite project of his at this point.

Yikes.

I finally got the answer now. I understand. Yall trust Biden more than yall trust Ye. I think I understand why, I just don’t feel the same way.

— Chance The Rapper (@chancetherapper) July 13, 2020

With most celebrities, if I see them trending my first thoughts are "Oh no, did they die?" or "Oh no, are they racist/sexist/homophobic?"

With Chance, it's "Oh no, did he say something dumb about Kanye?"

— DJP (@djperry1973) July 13, 2020

Hi, @chancetherapper. If you are very obviously a rapper why did you put it in your stage name? I cannot stop thinking about this.

— Dionne Warwick (@_DionneWarwick) December 5, 2020

Damn RIP

avoid confusion with Chance the Painter

I am now Dionne the Singer.

— Dionne Warwick (@_DionneWarwick) December 5, 2020

dionne THEE singer imo

Realized on reading this thread that I'd vaguely (and wrongly) thought of it as a really random Being There reference.

“I cannot stop thinking about this”

new single is pretty good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnO2HDmT1D8

Yeah! Heard it on the radio today, I like it

New track from Dionne the Singer and Chance the Rapper:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJeKQ_UktBI