often when a musician misbehaves or acts offensively, there is a debate about whether it is ok to like music done by a morally reprehensible musician. this is a matter that is up for discussion - ON OTHER THREADS. on this thread, i suggest we assemble a list of morally impeccable musicians that we can enjoy without lingering feelings of guilt or self-hatred (well at least the guilt or self-hatred caused by listening to morally bankrupt musicians - i can't speak for the rest of your guilt or self-hatred ;) )
― ienjoyhotdogs, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:01 (twelve years ago)
king tubby
― dylannn, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:03 (twelve years ago)
hitler
― not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:05 (twelve years ago)
Phil Spector
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:05 (twelve years ago)
phil spector is an abuser and murdererhitler was not a musicianking tubby was politically and ideologically suspect
― ienjoyhotdogs, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:07 (twelve years ago)
David Crosby
― Mule, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:07 (twelve years ago)
Sting
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:07 (twelve years ago)
eagles
― forevermore (a maven) (Matt P), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:08 (twelve years ago)
Jonathan Richmond
― Ma mère est habile Mais ma bile est amère (Michael White), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:08 (twelve years ago)
david crosby has eaten babies on at least two occasionssting wrote "goo goo goo ga ga ga" and is a sex pervert
― ienjoyhotdogs, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:08 (twelve years ago)
lead singer of Wang Chung
― Euler, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:08 (twelve years ago)
Eddie Vedder
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:08 (twelve years ago)
Allison Blair
― WHAT DOES SAMANTHA FOX SAY (DJP), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:09 (twelve years ago)
eagles used drugs, financially supporting a dangerous criminal underworldjonathan richmond does not exist
― ienjoyhotdogs, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:09 (twelve years ago)
Seriously though, Harry Belafonte comes to mind.
― Mule, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:09 (twelve years ago)
benny mardones
― forevermore (a maven) (Matt P), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:09 (twelve years ago)
lead singer of wang chung was part of band with "wang" in the nameeddie vedder does not existalison blair does not exist
alex chilton
― forevermore (a maven) (Matt P), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:10 (twelve years ago)
Q. What's the definition of a gentleman?
― goole, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:10 (twelve years ago)
joe bataan
jonathan richmond does not exist
Just google-proofing to prevent the onset of vanity on his part
― Ma mère est habile Mais ma bile est amère (Michael White), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:11 (twelve years ago)
A. One who knows how the play the accordion, but does not.
― goole, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:11 (twelve years ago)
wyclef john
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:11 (twelve years ago)
Neyo?
― how's life, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:11 (twelve years ago)
harry belafonte, by appearing on the muppet show, tacitly supported bestialitybenny mardones funded the activities of the manson family for a decade
― ienjoyhotdogs, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:11 (twelve years ago)
All the musicians who have died are presently morally impeccable
― Ma mère est habile Mais ma bile est amère (Michael White), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:12 (twelve years ago)
goole no longer on my Xmas list
calvin johnson
― forevermore (a maven) (Matt P), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:12 (twelve years ago)
alex chilton was kind of a dickjoe bataan named himself after the bataan death marchwyclef john does not existneyo? added a question mark to his name to avoid detection by the fbi
― ienjoyhotdogs, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:13 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSIryBaA-q8
― not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:13 (twelve years ago)
calvin johnson is a football player, not a musician
Flo & Eddie
― how's life, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:14 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph6IpYBc_JA
― not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:14 (twelve years ago)
boyd rice
― forevermore (a maven) (Matt P), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:15 (twelve years ago)
flo & eddie are morally impeccable
― ienjoyhotdogs, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:15 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My2FRPA3Gf8
― 2 ℜ 4 u (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:15 (twelve years ago)
boyd rice cheated his siblings out of their shares of the rice-a-roni fortune
rice-a-roni is for the people
― fresh (crüt), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:16 (twelve years ago)
serious answer: bill callahan?
― marcos, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:16 (twelve years ago)
dave van ronk
― marcos, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:17 (twelve years ago)
serious answer: ienjoyhotdogs' mom?
― forevermore (a maven) (Matt P), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:17 (twelve years ago)
oh i forgot, we had sex
Weird Al
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:18 (twelve years ago)
bill callahan used a band name with parentheses in itdave van ronk purchased black-market motorcycle partsmy mom is flo of flo & eddie and is morally impeccable
― ienjoyhotdogs, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:18 (twelve years ago)
http://teampacman.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/looking-at-sausages.jpg
this is you isn't it?
― not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:19 (twelve years ago)
Ted Nugent. Clean and sober, monogamous, hunts and kills his own food...
― 誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:19 (twelve years ago)
Hildegard von Bingen
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:20 (twelve years ago)
fucking hate boyd rice
repost this a million times for every time he tries to sugarcoat this shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5aDHs0XuFc
sarah
those
aren't
hot
dogs
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:20 (twelve years ago)
weird al murdered a prostitute (you can hear her screams in the background of "another one rides the bus")ted nugent is a draft dodger
― ienjoyhotdogs, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:21 (twelve years ago)
ienjoyhotdogs i don't believe you
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:22 (twelve years ago)
hildegard von bingen may have received her position as oblate to the church thanks to political favors
― ienjoyhotdogs, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:22 (twelve years ago)
look you can make your own judgments about whether these actions are "wrong" or "right" but i'm just pointing out facts
― ienjoyhotdogs, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:23 (twelve years ago)
Early adopter of purgatory
― Ma mère est habile Mais ma bile est amère (Michael White), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:23 (twelve years ago)
ienjoyhotdogs otm, all human actions are equal in moral value
― Cap'n Save-a-Co. (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:24 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLwLv2TcWLM
― not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:28 (twelve years ago)
so glad flo and eddie are finally getting their due on ilx
― mizzell, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:32 (twelve years ago)
Matthew Sweet ("sweet" = morally impeccable iirc)
― Euler, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:34 (twelve years ago)
matthew sweet hypnotized robert quine and put him under telepathic mind slavery
― ienjoyhotdogs, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:37 (twelve years ago)
J0hn D4rnielle
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:38 (twelve years ago)
j0hn d4rnielle does not exist
― ienjoyhotdogs, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:40 (twelve years ago)
he has been a bit of a bully to deej over the years
― not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:40 (twelve years ago)
"liberty in the negative sense involves an answer to the question: 'What is the area within which the subject — a person or group of persons — is or should be left to do or be what he is able to do or be, without interference by other persons'." - Matthew Sweet
― Euler, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:41 (twelve years ago)
Niels Adams no doubt lol xp no jd is not morally impeccable and sarahel is otm however in his defense deej is notm
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:41 (twelve years ago)
just a bit of fun, be cool ;)
― ienjoyhotdogs, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:42 (twelve years ago)
n = not or never?
― not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:42 (twelve years ago)
notm = not on the money afaik
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:42 (twelve years ago)
OMG thank you. so many lolz at Tom Metzger discussing whether or not electronic music is "white"
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:46 (twelve years ago)
hos is it no one's said Varg Vikernes yet
Martin Denny
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:46 (twelve years ago)
ABBA
Fred Durst
Laura Nyro
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:47 (twelve years ago)
Bohannon
Max Roach
hey ienjoyhotdogs tho talk shit about Duke Ellington go ahead I dare you. I will flag that post so fast it'll be like ONE SMALL STEP FOR MAN
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:47 (twelve years ago)
Bo Diddley
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:47 (twelve years ago)
Pikachu
The pokemon formerly known as pikachu
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:48 (twelve years ago)
Buddy Rich
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:48 (twelve years ago)
i am not "talking shit" about anyone, i am having an honest discussion about the morality of various artists to assemble a comprehensive list of musicians that are safe to enjoy
that being said, duke ellington fucked babies 24/7
― ienjoyhotdogs, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:49 (twelve years ago)
Sun Ra
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:49 (twelve years ago)
Eazy E
Mel Torme
Sun Ra voted for Bush in '88.
(seriously, it's in the bio)
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:50 (twelve years ago)
The Mascara Snake
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:50 (twelve years ago)
musicians it's safe to enjoy: human beings who can be complexones you should give a pass to no matter how good their shit is: rapists, nazis
yr welcome!
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:50 (twelve years ago)
Robert Fripp
― "Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:51 (twelve years ago)
varg vikernes, martin denny, 3/4s of ABBA, fred durst, laura nyro, bohannon, max roach, bo diddley, and buddy rich were part of the global conspiracy to shift the u.s. away from the gold standard. pikachu is not a musician and anni-frid lyngstad is morally impeccable.
― ienjoyhotdogs, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:52 (twelve years ago)
Gibby Haines
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:52 (twelve years ago)
Shirley Temple
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, September 10, 2013 4:47 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
He donated a large sum of money to an anti-choice organization in the early 70s.
(Not talking shit, but I was surprised/dismayed to learn of it.)
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:53 (twelve years ago)
Pitbull
― Euler, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:53 (twelve years ago)
for a music-lovers' "community" it sure feels like i'm doing a lot of the work here!
― ienjoyhotdogs, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:54 (twelve years ago)
though thank you to tarfumes the escape goat for chipping in on this righteous and useful mission
Lee Atwater
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:55 (twelve years ago)
Bruce Willis
:(
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:55 (twelve years ago)
The 1985 Chicago Bears
Katie Melua
― tsrobodo, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:56 (twelve years ago)
The Adverts and that's it!
― "Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:57 (twelve years ago)
Donny Osmond
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:58 (twelve years ago)
There's no crying or morality in my music.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 21:04 (twelve years ago)
Bob Log III
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 21:05 (twelve years ago)
Lux Interior
http://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/4149/cover_3555171512009.jpg
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 21:13 (twelve years ago)
john darnielle
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 21:15 (twelve years ago)
i heard he keeps low down company
― "Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 21:16 (twelve years ago)
kristin hersh is an incredibly nice person
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 21:25 (twelve years ago)
Paul RobesonClifford BrownGil Evans
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 21:47 (twelve years ago)
eagles as a group don't rate but what about ole beige-eyes Randy Meisner
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 21:52 (twelve years ago)
Paul Robeson is more tragic than morally impeccable
― Ma mère est habile Mais ma bile est amère (Michael White), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 21:52 (twelve years ago)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Paul_Robeson#Silence_on_Stalin
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 21:57 (twelve years ago)
Randy Meisner got replaced by a dog on a Poco album cover.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 21:58 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, I knew about Robeson's stance on Stalin, and it's definitely problematic. I actually thought he had repudiated much of his Stalin praise post-'56, but evidently not.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 22:02 (twelve years ago)
From Wiki and hardly impeccable:
"Robeson traveled to Moscow in June, and was unable to find Itzik Feffer. He let Soviet authorities know that he wanted to see him.[186] Reluctant to lose Robeson as a propagandist for the USSR,[187] the Soviets brought Feffer from prison to him.[188] Feffer told him that Mikhoels had been murdered, and he would be summarily executed.[188] To protect the USSR's reputation,[187] and to keep the right wing of the US from gaining the moral high ground, Robeson denied that any persecution existed in the USSR,[189] and kept the meeting secret for the rest of his life, except from his son."
― Ma mère est habile Mais ma bile est amère (Michael White), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 22:06 (twelve years ago)
King DiamondLos LobosDiamanda GalasCool CBig LurchTikk TokkEddie MoneyMorris Day (not The Time, though)
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 22:09 (twelve years ago)
robert ashleyvan morrison
― ian, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 22:15 (twelve years ago)
Crispian Mills
― JacobSanders, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 22:16 (twelve years ago)
robert wyatt
― fit and working again, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 22:28 (twelve years ago)
gg allin
― "Dave Barlow" is the name Lou uses on sabermetrics baseball sites (s.clover), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:26 (twelve years ago)
El Duce
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:27 (twelve years ago)
Kenny Lattimore
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:28 (twelve years ago)
The Blind Boys of Alabama
gucci mane
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:29 (twelve years ago)
sorry wrong thread
larry mullen jr
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:29 (twelve years ago)
mike love
― forevermore (a maven) (Matt P), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:29 (twelve years ago)
bunnybrains
phish's mike gordon
― forevermore (a maven) (Matt P), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:31 (twelve years ago)
chris brown
Darby Crash
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:33 (twelve years ago)
spinal tap
― ian, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:40 (twelve years ago)
dolores o'riordan
― forevermore (a maven) (Matt P), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:42 (twelve years ago)
scott weiland
bob marley
― forevermore (a maven) (Matt P), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 23:43 (twelve years ago)
Alessandro Moreschi
― idembanana (abanana), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 01:27 (twelve years ago)
stalin
― not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 01:30 (twelve years ago)
james brown, aka the godfather of soul
― kaleb, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 01:31 (twelve years ago)
steve shelley
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 01:31 (twelve years ago)
Дмитрий Дмитриевич Шостакович
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 01:33 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PwlUZizM14
― not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 01:33 (twelve years ago)
;_;
― forevermore (a maven) (Matt P), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 01:36 (twelve years ago)
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/07/06/health/evidence-puts-dolphins-in-new-light-as-killers.html
― Remember! The cormorant is a big brrd. It has got a long neck. (unregistered), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 01:54 (twelve years ago)
Pikachu is a musician, ask anyone in Acid Mothers Temple.
― Shannon Leeedles (Leee), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 02:02 (twelve years ago)
Skrewdriver
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 02:46 (twelve years ago)
Olivier Messiaen seemed like a good guy, don't like his music all that much though tbh
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 09:32 (twelve years ago)
Glenn Frey
― Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 09:54 (twelve years ago)
Don Henley
Don Johnson
― Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 09:55 (twelve years ago)
Mike Love
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 09:58 (twelve years ago)
Bill Clinton
― Siegbran, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 10:18 (twelve years ago)
Steve Vai
― how's life, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 10:45 (twelve years ago)
― Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 11:04 (twelve years ago)
The Great Kat
― how's life, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 11:34 (twelve years ago)
feeling depressed
― ienjoyhotdogs, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:52 (twelve years ago)
who am i to judge?
i'm sorry ienjoyhotdogs
― fresh (crüt), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:53 (twelve years ago)
morality is not black or white; humanity is not good or evil
― ienjoyhotdogs, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:53 (twelve years ago)
i could condemn steve vai as a card cheat and a philanderer but am i "better" than steve vai?
― ienjoyhotdogs, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:56 (twelve years ago)
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5oi6rVkz51rqfhi2o1_500.gif
― Cap'n Save-a-Co. (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:57 (twelve years ago)
xpost can you make your guitar laugh cheekily? then maybe
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:00 (twelve years ago)
Maybe too much of a serious question for this thread, but what about Matthew Herbert?
― Sick Rave and the Bad Speed (S-), Thursday, 12 September 2013 03:10 (twelve years ago)
FUCKED UP: Matthew Herbert Foiled in Plan to Record the Death of a Pig
some classic posts in that one
― zvookster, Thursday, 12 September 2013 03:17 (twelve years ago)
Stella Mozgawa
― how's life, Thursday, 12 September 2013 10:22 (twelve years ago)
wow ilxor's opinions on the Matthew Herbert thread sounds like
http://blogs.artinfo.com/artintheair/2013/09/10/the-onion-blasts-van-gogh-museum-for-exploiting-a-mentally-ill-suicide-victim/
― Sick Rave and the Bad Speed (S-), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 02:21 (twelve years ago)