Grammys 2014

nominations are here. everyone has questions.

http://www.grammy.com/news/jay-z-tops-56th-grammy-nominations-with-nine

sara bareilles??? did i just completely miss something this year?

I don't know how any of this stuff works (was the nominations concert live? etc.) but I found it kinda awkward and hilarious when T. Swift was like, "thank you for the nominations" before her performance, which, at that point, only one category was announced and she wasn't nominated in that category. Unless she knew she was nominated beforehand. But it was funny to me, the viewer.

you didn't. that album hasn't sold as much as either of her previous ones and the lead single (the one that sounded like Katy Perry's "Roar") is just now starting to pick up some steam on the charts after it was used in an ad. really one of the most random left field AOTY nominations ever. and i say that as someone who likes Bareilles's music ok and have listened to the album. xp

Looks like Tig Notaro will possibly, even probably, get a Grammy. That's cool.

she did the most amazingly funny bit on the Pete Holmes Show the other night

could someone kindly remind me of the difference btwn Song and Record again

Song is awarded to the songwriter(s).

why is james blake nominated for best new artist?

also good for ariel rechtshaid getting a non-classical producer nom

Holy shit at the Timberlake snubbage.

Also Daft Punk vs. Kendrick Lamar in AotY. Good stuff, imo.

it's so strange seeing late-2012 stuff like the roomful of teeth album in the 2014 grammys. what is the cut-off period, in either direction?

i mean it is pretty funny that jt wasn't nominated for aoty but he got 7 other noms (many of which were even less deserved than an aoty nom would have been imo) so it's not like he was completely snubbed or anything

Surprised HAIM didn't get a best new artist gong, and that Janelle Monàe was completely snubbed. Then again, I never have any idea how they come up with the nominations for these.

cutoff period is end of September, so stuff from October 2012 is fair game.

more complete noms list here: http://www.grammy.com/nominees

why is james blake nominated for best new artist?

"For a new artist who releases, during the Eligibility Year, the first recording which establishes the public identity of that artist."

Pretty certain I saw Tamar Braxton on the pre-ballot for this category. She was on an Arista single released in 1990 and released a Hot 100 single well over a decade ago.

james blake's album wasn't that popular here tho? like i didn't even know he had released anything, not that i am looking out for his music or anything. ed sheeran also was nominated for song of the year last year and yet was nominated for new artist this year... i guess his soty-nominated recording didn't establish his public identity???

Tamar didn't just release a single in 2000, she had a whole album on DreamWorks!

the James Blake one is weird because i don't have any sense that his 2013 album reached anybody that his 2011 album didn't reach, at least in America.

Tamar didn't just release a single in 2000, she had a whole album on DreamWorks!

Right, but plenty of major-label albums fail to establish "public identity." Crazy to think that a Hot 100 single doesn't necessarily equate to "public identity."

The Blake album peaked at number 32 on the Billboard 200 and topped Electronic Albums.

(Blake's '11 album did not chart on the 200.)

For me, the most suspicious nomination is Salaam Remi's digital-only album, currently 76,837th on Amazon.

it gets even weirder when you realize that best new artist nominee ed sheeran was up for song of the year last year

biggest snubs imo are paramore, janelle, j cole for rap album (lol @ that jay-z pile of garbage leading the way in nominations), bruno mars for aoty, and all the currently functioning rock bands that lost a nomination to A VERSION OF 'KASHMIR'

dont get the ilm love for paramore at all.

How do Grammy noms work. Do bands need to pay a fee to get nominated or do major labels just nominate the big sellers and/or bright new hopes they hope to sell to the public in each category? I assume not just any band on an independent label can be nominated?

Ciara just posted this to address how "Body Party" wasn't nominated and now I'm confused - how does a sample make a song ineligible? http://instagram.com/p/hoMov1yHuv/

Paramore were never gonna be nominated for anything, that's not a snub

No album of the year nomination for Kanye West

eh i think they could have gotten a pop nomination or two al

which awards is macklemore gonna win

paramore are too pop for rock and too rock for pop

"still into you" deserved a nod tho

How do Grammy noms work. Do bands need to pay a fee to get nominated or do major labels just nominate the big sellers and/or bright new hopes they hope to sell to the public in each category? I assume not just any band on an independent label can be nominated?

― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, December 7, 2013 10:09 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

'industry people' aka people who have a certain required # + type of credits on recordings/albums are eligible to be naras members + then noms are made essentially from marketing/PR to those select people

iirc

How do Grammy noms work. Do bands need to pay a fee to get nominated or do major labels just nominate the big sellers and/or bright new hopes they hope to sell to the public in each category? I assume not just any band on an independent label can be nominated?

What are the eligibility requirements?
For the 56th Annual GRAMMY Awards, albums must be released between Oct. 1, 2012 and Sept. 30, 2013. Recordings must be in general distribution in the United States, i.e. sales by label to a branch or recognized independent distributor, via the Internet, or mail order/retail sales for a nationally marketed product.

How are recordings entered?
The Academy accepts entries online from its members and from registered labels. Entrants are provided information on how to submit their recordings electronically for consideration.

(From the Grammy.com FAQ)

At Roadrunner, where I work - two of our bands are nominated for Best Metal Performance this year - the product manager is the one in charge of submitting records for Grammy consideration. (Product manager = the person who is in charge of every aspect of a band's album production cycle; he/she sets up recording sessions, photo and video shoots, determines the marketing budget and how it's spent, proofs the CD booklet, etc., etc.)

I've been imagining Kanye seething about Sara Bareilles all night.

lol me too

Ha

General Field

Record of the year

Get Lucky — Daft Punk & Pharrell Williams
Radioactive — Imagine Dragons
Royals — Lorde
Locked Out Of Heaven — Bruno Mars
Blurred Lines — Robin Thicke Featuring T.I. & Pharrell

Album of the Year

The Blessed Unrest — Sara Bareilles
Random Access Memories — Daft Punk
Good Kid, M.A.A.D City — Kendrick Lamar
The Heist — Macklemore & Ryan Lewis
Red — Taylor Swift

Song of the Year

Just Give Me A Reason — Jeff Bhasker, Pink & Nate Ruess, songwriters (Pink Featuring Nate Ruess)
Locked Out Of Heaven — Philip Lawrence, Ari Levine & Bruno Mars, songwriters (Bruno Mars)
Roar — Lukasz Gottwald, Max Martin, Bonnie McKee, Katy Perry & Henry Walter, songwriters (Katy Perry)
Royals — Joel Little & Ella Yelich O'Connor, songwriters (Lorde)
Same Love —- Ben Haggerty, Mary Lambert & Ryan Lewis, songwriters (Macklemore & Ryan Lewis Featuring Mary Lambert)

Best New Artist

James Blake
Kendrick Lamar
Macklemore & Ryan Lewis
Kacey Musgraves
Ed Sheeran

Pop Field

Best Pop Solo Performance

Brave — Sara Bareilles
Royals — Lorde
When I Was Your Man — Bruno Mars
Roar — Katy Perry
Mirrors — Justin Timberlake

Best Pop Duo/Group Performance

Get Lucky — Daft Punk & Pharrell Williams
Just Give Me A Reason — Pink Featuring Nate Ruess
Stay — Rihanna Featuring Mikky Ekko
Blurred Lines — Robin Thicke Featuring T.I. & Pharrell
Suit & Tie — Justin Timberlake & Jay Z

Best Pop Instrumental Album

Steppin' Out — Herb Alpert
The Beat —- Boney James
Handpicked — Earl Klugh
Summer Horns — Dave Koz, Gerald Albright, Mindi Abair & Richard Elliot
Hacienda — Jeff Lorber Fusion

Best Pop Vocal Album

Paradise — Lana Del Rey
Pure Heroine — Lorde
Unorthodox Jukebox — Bruno Mars
Blurred Lines — Robin Thicke
The 20/20 Experience — The Complete Experience — Justin Timberlake

Dance/Electronica Field

Best Dance Recording
Need U (100%) — Duke Dumont Featuring A*M*E & MNEK
Sweet Nothing — Calvin Harris Featuring Florence Welch
Atmosphere — Kaskade
This Is What It Feels Like — Armin Van Buuren Featuring Trevor Guthrie
Clarity — Zedd Featuring Foxes

Best Dance/Electronica Album

Random Access Memories — Daft Punk
Settle — Disclosure
18 Months — Calvin Harris
Atmosphere — Kaskade
A Color Map of the Sun — Pretty Lights

Traditional Pop Field

Best Traditional Pop Vocal Album

Viva Duets — Tony Bennett & Various Artists
To Be Loved — Michael Bublé
The Standards — Gloria Estefan
Cee Lo's Magic Moment — Cee Lo Green
Now — Dionne Warwick

Rock Field

Best Rock Performance

Always Alright — Alabama Shakes
The Stars (Are Out Tonight) — David Bowie
Radioactive — Imagine Dragons
Kashmir — Led Zeppelin
My God Is the Sun — Queens Of The Stone Age
I'm Shakin' — Jack White

Best Metal Performance

T.N.T. — Anthrax
God Is Dead? — Black Sabbath
The Enemy Inside — Dream Theater
In Due Time — Killswitch Engage
Room 24 — Volbeat Featuring King Diamond

Best Rock Song

Ain't Messin 'Round — Gary Clark Jr., songwriter (Gary Clark Jr.)
Cut Me Some Slack — Dave Grohl, Paul McCartney, Krist Novoselic & Pat Smear, songwriters (Paul McCartney, Dave Grohl, Krist Novoselic, Pat Smear)
Doom And Gloom — Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, songwriters (the Rolling Stones)
God Is Dead? — Geezer Butler, Tony Iommi & Ozzy Osbourne, songwriters (Black Sabbath)
Panic Station — Matthew Bellamy, songwriter (Muse)

Best Rock Album

13 — Black Sabbath
The Next Day — David Bowie
Mechanical Bull — Kings Of Leon
Celebration Day — Led Zeppelin
...Like Clockwork — Queens Of The Stone Age
Psychedelic Pill — Neil Young With Crazy Horse

Alternative Field

Best Alternative Music Album

The Worse Things Get, The Harder I Fight, The Harder I Fight, The More I Love You — Neko Case
Trouble Will Find Me — The National
Hesitation Marks — Nine Inch Nails
Lonerism — Tame Impala
Modern Vampires Of The City — Vampire Weekend

R&B Field

Best R&B Performance

Love And War — Tamar Braxton
Best Of Me — Anthony Hamilton
Nakamarra — Hiatus Kaiyote Featuring Q-Tip
How Many Drinks? — Miguel Featuring Kendrick Lamar
Something — Snarky Puppy with Lalah Hathaway

Best Traditional R&B Performance

Please Come Home — Gary Clark Jr.
Get It Right — Fantasia
Quiet Fire — Maysa
Hey Laura — Gregory Porter
Yesterday — Ryan Shaw

Best R&B Song

Best Of Me - Anthony Hamilton & Jairus Mozee, songwriters (Anthony Hamilton)
Love And War - Tamar Braxton, Darhyl Camper, Jr., LaShawn Daniels & Makeba Riddick, songwriters (Tamar Braxton)
Only One - PJ Morton, songwriter (PJ Morton Featuring Stevie Wonder)
Pusher Love Girl - James Fauntleroy, Jerome Harmon, Timothy Mosley & Justin Timberlake, songwriters (Justin Timberlake)
Without Me - Fantasia Barrino, Missy Elliott, Al Sherrod Lambert, Harmony Samuels & Kyle Stewart, songwriters (Fantasia Featuring Kelly Rowland & Missy Elliot)

Best Urban Contemporary Album

Love And War - Tamar Braxton
Side Effects Of You - Fantasia
One: In The Chamber - Salaam Remi
Unapologetic - Rihanna
New York: A Love Story - Mack Wilds

Best R&B Album

R&B Divas - Faith Evans
Girl On Fire - Alicia Keys
Love In The Future - John Legend
Better - Chrisette Michele
Three Kings - TGT

Rap Field

Best Rap Performance

Started From The Bottom - Drake
Berzerk - Eminem
Tom Ford - Jay Z
Swimming Pools (Drank) - Kendrick Lamar
Thrift Shop - Macklemore & Ryan Lewis Featuring Wanz

Best Rap/Sung Collaboration

Power Trip - J. Cole Featuring Miguel
Part II (On The Run) - Jay Z Featuring Beyoncé
Holy Grail - Jay Z Featuring Justin Timberlake
Now Or Never - Kendrick Lamar Featuring Mary J. Blige
Remember You - Wiz Khalifa Featuring The Weeknd

Best Rap Song

...Problems - Tauheed Epps, Aubrey Graham, Kendrick Lamar, Rakim Mayers & Noah Shebib, songwriters (ASAP Rocky Featuring Drake, 2 Chainz & Kendrick Lamar)
Holy Grail - Shawn Carter, Terius Nash, J. Harmon, Timothy Mosley, Justin Timberlake & Ernest Wilson, songwriters (Kurt Cobain, Dave Grohl & Krist Novoselic, songwriters) (Jay Z Featuring Justin Timberlake)
New Slaves - Christopher Breaux, Ben Bronfman, Mike Dean, Louis Johnson, Malik Jones, Elon Rutberg, Sakiya Sandifer, Che Smith, Kanye West & Cydell Young, songwriters (Anna Adamis & Gabor Presser, songwriters) (Kanye West)
Started From The Bottom - W. Coleman, Aubrey Graham & Noah Shebib, songwriters (Bruno Sanfilippo, songwriter) (Drake)
Thrift Shop - Ben Haggerty & Ryan Lewis, songwriters (Macklemore & Ryan Lewis Featuring Wanz)

Best Rap Album

Nothing Was The Same - Drake
Magna Carta...Holy Grail - Jay Z
Good Kid, M.A.A.D City - Kendrick Lamar
The Heist - Macklemore & Ryan Lewis
Yeezus - Kanye West

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/music/la-et-ms-grammy-nominations-winners-list,0,27835.story#ixzz2moa6M5SY

biggest snubs imo are paramore, janelle, j cole for rap album (lol @ that jay-z pile of garbage leading the way in nominations), bruno mars for aoty, and all the currently functioning rock bands that lost a nomination to A VERSION OF 'KASHMIR'

if i were a currently functioning rock band, i'd be more upset at losing a nomination to A VERSION OF JACK WHITE.

I hope everyone is excited about these 2 nominations:

Best Rock Performance

Kashmir — Led Zeppelin

Best Rock Song

Doom And Gloom — Mick Jagger & Keith Richards, songwriters (the Rolling Stones)

2014 nominations...wow

haha wait MCAK WILDS NOMINATION

it's interesting how the boomer slant has mostly disappeared from the major categories (Daft Punk are under 40 and pretty hip to be the oldest guys with an AOTY nom) but is still that glaring in some categories. almost as funny as "Kashmir" is that it's up against Jack White's 4th single (which only charted in Canada) from his album that had an AOTY nom last year.

The Grammys are always ridiculous but this was a pleasant surprise:

Need U (100%) — Duke Dumont Featuring A*M*E & MNEK

Just found out today that the insane New York Art Quartet box is up for Best Historical Album. Kind of mindblowing for such a limited (665 copies) released. Also mindblowing because it's the New York Art Quartet.

http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/94698/the-rb-grammys-and-the-curious-case-of-tamar-and-fantasia

^^

Oh dear god in heaven:

ut the producers behind the program, which is to be broadcast live by CBS at 8 p.m., are hoping that the biggest show-stopper of the night will be a much more solemn event: an on-air wedding of 34 couples — gay, straight, old, young, of many races and many colors. The ceremony will be part of the hip-hop duo Macklemore & Ryan Lewis’s performance of their Grammy-nominated song “Same Love,” which became a marriage-equality anthem last year just as that issue was drawing intense national attention.

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FONqP2rnCKo

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which is to be broadcast live by CBS at 8 p.m.

"live," ha ha. not here where i, and a good deal of the population of the united states, lives. and where the grammys are actually taking place.

fact checking cuz now resorting to just being pedantic about timezones

pedantry with a point!

"I'M IN A TIME ZONE, I'M IN A TIME ZONE, I'M IN A TIME ZONE!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5S-q1gRxvw

Queen Latifah will officiate at the nuptials, and Madonna will join the number with Macklemore, Mr. Lewis and the song’s featured vocalist, Mary Lambert.

oy veh

We're sorry we never gave you an award before, so now you can get one in this private ceremony category(and yes we know Clifton Chenier has been dead since 1987):

Zydeco king Clifton Chenier will be honored Saturday (Jan. 25) with the Recording Academy's lifetime achievement award. The award is part of the 2014 Grammys' special merit awards ceremony. Announced in December, the other lifetime achievement winners include the Isley Brothers, Kraftwerk, Kris Kristofferson, Mexican composer Armando Manzanero and violinist Maud Powell. Ennio Morricone, FAME Records founder Rick Hall and legendary rock photographer Jim Marshall will receive the academy's Trustees Award at the private, invitation-only event.

http://www.nola.com/music/index.ssf/2014/01/grammy_awards_honor_clifton_ch.html

http://www.grammy.com/live

I wrote about the weirdness of Sara Bareilles being nominated for album of the year: http://www.splicetoday.com/music/a-defense-of-sara-bareilles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1aSkJ7HNxA

^^ one of my favorite songs of all time

if 34 gay couples wanna let Anita Baker soundtrack the nuptials, go to it, gays.

Gay Marriage to Anita: Your Thoughts

I wrote about the weirdness of Sara Bareilles being nominated for album of the year

nice!

Well-written piece Some Dude.

x-post to my earlier posting about the Lifetime Achievement Awards from last night--

FAME Records founder Rick Hall

I guess the Grammy folks just saw that Muscle Shoals doc.

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and justin just won best r&b song...

i wonder if they realise/care how bad this looks

it's L.A.!

also: I want to think they know how bad it looks, therefore the awards are given "pre-telecast" but nah

what will generate thinkpiece: if "same love" wins song of the year it will be the first hip hop song to ever do so

*thinkpieces

just saw kacey musgraves on the red carpet and she was very charming and her dress was beautiful
glad i finally know who she is!

ah but will Elton join on piano -- that's the question

or is Frank Ocean now the keyboardist of choice

:'(

http://i.imgur.com/rYgVYpp.jpg

this is very sad

my mom asked me if i was watching and then she asked me who kendrick lamar is

it's weird watching the red carpet chitchat, everyone really does seem like they are there for a professional meeting. less like celebrities.

should i watch this? i bought wine to make it go faster, but tbh all the categories i cared about were in the pre-telecast.

drinking wine now, bro. Let's do this.

so rap grammys are about as relevant as the metal ones now? sad

I think I'm gonna watch the Carrie remake tonight instead.

the Grammys could still have their own Carrie remake if Kanye shows up

what will generate thinkpiece: if "same love" wins song of the year it will be the first hip hop song to ever do so

there's going to be so, so many thinkpieces about this

we're going to reach peak thinkpiece permeation until whatever happens at the super bowl halftime show

the Grammys could still have their own Carrie remake if Kanye shows up

― one second I'm a goons, then suddenly the goons is me (some dude), Monday, 27 January 2014 00:34 (2 minutes ago) Permalink

pack it up, best post in this thread has been achieved and the actual ceremony hasn't even started yet

we're going to reach peak thinkpiece permeation until whatever happens at the super bowl halftime show

Red Hot Chilli Peppers wardrobe malfunction?

sock malfunction

Nine Inch Nails, Queens of the Stone Age, Dave Grohl, and special guest Lindsey Buckingham will give the closing performance at the 56th annual Grammy Awards on Sunday night, SPIN can exclusively reveal.

"We're incredibly excited about this number," Grammy executive producer Ken Ehrlich said in a statement. "There's nothing better than when the Grammys can rock out..."

fingers crossed for all-star "tusk" jam

fingers crossed for all-star "tusk" jam

any time the trojan marching band shows up is a good time

trojan marching band officiating macklemore-madonna wedding

50-minute Peter Green era freakout

i love beyonce's tights! her whole outfit is pretty awesome.

You guys should do like me, blow that shit off and rent Casino online

Chicago performing with Ryan thicke aaaaggghgggggghhh

Well, at least Chicago and I are on the same page when it comes to their stellar work in the '80s.

Glad to see that Chicago's performance lived up to the inscription on their second album:

"With this album, we dedicate ourselves, our futures and our energies to the people of the revolution. And the revolution in all of its forms."

Taylor giving "All Too Well" the full power-ballad treatment. I like it.

I can't believe McCartney & Grohl won a Grammy for that bullshit

Whoa Nate Ruess has been working out!

Pink is such a goddamn badass

Well, at least Chicago and I are on the same page when it comes to their stellar work in the '80s.

they were the inspiration.

Had no idea about this

Macklemore & Lewis' wins, which include best rap song and rap performance for "Thrift Shop," come after the Grammy rap committee almost ousted the duo from its categories. A source told The Associated Press that the rap committee rejected the duo, but that was later overruled by the general Grammy committee. The source, who attended the general Grammy meeting, spoke on the condition of anonymity because the meeting was private.

What sweet hell is this ringo starr perfirmance

Hi, Yoko.

yoko is the six degrees of kevin bacon connecting fluxus to imagine dragons (or whoever)

also on twitter the one degree of separation between me & like samsung mobile

Whoo hoo!

Bummed that the New York Art Quartet box didn't win anything. Still stunned that it was nominated.

i'm watching on delay but kendrick and kacey really kicked some ass

I feel I'm not as charmed or intrigued by Daft Punk's outfits as I should be.

whodathunk Imagine Dragons would be part of such a good performance?

Here's hoping they crash the next one.

a close call between Imagine Dragons + Kendrick vs Metallica for classic worst performance

Hahaha waht

You just listed one if the best and one of the worst performances tonight so I am confused

I would say Kendrick killed it, but they bleeped over half of it.

i didnt really understand most of what was going on for kendrick's performance but kendrick himself was great

when you could hear and see him through the napalm, enough dropped to destroy Saigon.

daft punk hug was weird/touching

i cried when the people all got married
what a sap!

also kendrick was awesome, metallica was weird

wtf there was a mass wedding? that can't count.

Omar Hakim married Paul Jackson Jr. iirc

https://twitter.com/trent_reznor/status/427674918138826752

I'm on Trent's side at the end of it all but like, does he not know how closing performances on award shows work?

Did Ben Curtis make the death montage? I'm on the west coast broadcast

so, to sum up:

-cbs cut the gay kissing
-merle haggard will still sing about old glory even if it's to a largely black audience
-macklemore is emphatically NOT GAY
-macklemore and lorde, telling said largely black audience why their hip-hop is RONG
-it's entirely up to queen latifah if/when she decides to come out of the closet, but her coyness about it is a little annoying

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/t_original/19dsspadncblfgif.gif

needs vomit falling on them

This is how my ballot went (I think). Pre-ballot centricity would've been around .001.

Record of the Year: "Get Lucky"
Album of the Year: Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City
Song of the Year: "Royals"
Best New Artist: Kendrick Lamar

Best Pop Solo Performance: "Royals"
Best Pop Duo/Group Performance: "Get Lucky"
Best Pop Vocal Album: Pure Heroine

Best Dance Recording: "Clarity"
Best Dance/Electronica Album: Settle

Best R&B Performance: "Something"
Best Traditional R&B Performance: "Hey Laura"
Best R&B Song: "Without Me"
Best Urban Contemporary Album: Side Effects of You
Best R&B Album: Better

Best Rap Performance: "Swimming Pools (Drank)"
Best Rap/Sung Collaboration: "Now or Never"
Best Rap Song: "New Slaves"
Best Rap Album: Good Kid, M.A.A.D. City

Best Jazz Vocal Album: Liquid Spirit

Kendrick getting totally scratch was as much a genuine bummer as seeing Madonna sacrifice "Open Your Heart" on the altar of bad taste.

yeah that whole thing was pretty terrible
i can't believe i watched this program at all and i still have no idea why metallica played "one" after a halfhearted eulogy for lou reed. they seriously couldn't rally some old folks to play a VU song (or a lou song)?!? i definitely fell asleep at some point. maybe they did.

In a Grammys interview, kiwi pop star and multiple statuette winner Lorde is asked about what she'd like to do next, creatively speaking. Her reply: "I actually want to rap, I'm interested in that. But then I also wanna, you know, make a record like Fugazi."

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2014/01/27/lorde-name-checks-fugazi/

Pretty surprised there wasn't some all-star tribute dealie for Lou. I remember they did one for Joe Strummer (Springsteen, Elvis Costello, Dave Grohl, and I don't remember who else playing "London Calling"), and kind of assumed Lou's passing would merit more than "Fuck it, let's just shove Leto up there to read some lyrics or something."

mass wedding - Rev. Moon = no cred

interviewer misheard. lorde said she wants to drive a fugazi.

Quincy, M.F. (get bent)
Posted: January 27, 2014 at 8:06:09 AM
so, to sum up:

-cbs cut the gay kissing
-merle haggard will still sing about old glory even if it's to a largely black audience
-macklemore is emphatically NOT GAY
-macklemore and lorde, telling said largely black audience why their hip-hop is RONG
-it's entirely up to queen latifah if/when she decides to come out of the closet, but her coyness about it is a little annoying

um he is gay?

http://twitter.com/ryanlewis/status/5927917071

Lorde said she wanted to mispronounce "fugazi" and then beat her chest and chant.

I remember they did one for Joe Strummer (Springsteen, Elvis Costello, Dave Grohl, and I don't remember who else playing "London Calling")

Tony Kamal, hopping excitedly, and Steve Van Zandt.

kind of assumed Lou's passing would merit more than "Fuck it, let's just shove Leto up there to read some lyrics or something."

for real! that's why i thought i missed something. jared leto was like RIP lou reed --> awkward seque to ancient metallica song?! huh? not even the sexy dads of rock could come up with anything?

I was more of an asshole than I needed to be - it was way too early for me to be on Facebook - but I stand by my points.

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Is okie from muskogie racist in some way I'm unaware of?

lol https://twitter.com/search?q=%22what%27s%20up%20with%20that%22%20buckingham&src=typd

Did Queen Latifah trot out her "You think you know but you don't know" line? Liberace woulda had her spot if he'd lived, I guess.

are there any anti-macklemore thinkpieces yet i need to satiate a basic need

well, Eric and I are divorcing, if that helps

I'd offer a civil partnership if you didn't post really pathetic 'zings' aimed at me by nitwits.

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xp no deal

Cue the inevitable millenials-don't-know-shit-about-oldster-music-and-flout-their-ignorance-on-social-media goodness.

plz don't screencap any "who the fuck is Stevie Wonder" foolishness, thx

Everyone knows who Stevie is. He's the dude who ripped off that Will Smith song from that movie.

Although in 2011 it was millenials-don't-know-shit-about-Arcade Fire-and-Esparanza Spalding-and-get-angry-at-them-on-social-media.

So I guess the status quo is a slight improvement.

really the correct response to that is "use a fucking search engine, idiot"

not knowing something is fine, not knowing how to get the answer in this day and age is inexcusable

http://cdnl.complex.com/mp/620/400/80/0/bb/1/ffffff/8f27ad53786aa577a6090c4a499d452d/images_/assets/CHANNEL_IMAGES/MUSIC/2014/01/texts.jpg

lmao what a herb

Everyone knows who Stevie is. He's the dude who ripped off that Will Smith song from that movie.

Also that Coolio song from that other movie.

in a perfect world that hunter hayes performance would have been a career ending injury

http://a4-images.myspacecdn.com/images04/8/80d95dc7a0f848d98fecc05e500d0bd3/full.jpg

welp

i turned it on during that performance and was like metallic has a keyboardist now

that was the worst performance

not only that, but why? why did they play that song after a eulogy for lou reed? why all the imagery of soldiers? was there relevance for that song in 2013 that i'm not aware of?

my favorite thing about that collaboration was the accidental polyrhythm introduced by the piano

I really liked that Crawddaddy's Paul Williams was included among the notable deaths. (I bet Stanley Kauffmann won't be in the equivalent at this year's Academy Awards.) Chet Flippo, too, although that was less surprising--think he may have won a Grammy for liner notes.

why all the imagery of soldiers?

Because the song is about a soldier?

http://i.imgur.com/NVfl2MJ.png

I enjoyed the Metallica/Lang Lang performance just because I kept expecting it to go full-on train wreck, which fate it narrowly avoided.

hahahahaaaaa xpost

Using Margaret Thatcher as an inspirational figure in their commercial was pretty moving.

Microsoft's advertising has been doing a great job of making me never want to use any of their products ever again

#inspired #by #hair #inspirational

god, i am so sick of macklemore being treated as though he single-handedly liberated all gay people.

he liberated me from Eric!

I'm similarly starting to get a little sick of Macklemore being blamed for everyone not doing their homework on gay history.

What ad was that Sara Bareilles song in? I also didn't know it was by her until last night. Good work all around, marketers.

Timberlake was in every ad I saw, or maybe it was one ad broadcast six thousand times

My oppressed metal Facebook contingency is collectively complaining that they neglected to eulogize Jeff Hanneman. A smaller number of people were angry about the omission of Clive Burr.

Alfred, our son was killed late in the afternoon on a country road with his learner's permit. He swerved to avoid a porcupine and drove into a ... large tree.

i don't want to do any homework but i also don't want to listen to macklemore

is that supposed to be Henry Mancini's hair in 1964?

actually i was pretty shocked that hanneman didnt even get a mention

Weird but sort of cool to see someone I actually knew in real life (trumpeter Roy Campbell) pop up in the memorial montage.

one of the staples singers was memorialized on the same screen as a publicist

Who is that text to Kendrick from, Kacey Musgraves?

Venti Vanilla Iced Latte

Disgusting

http://jezebel.com/people-found-last-nights-grammys-so-so-so-disgusting-1509800049

The gay marriages ruined the Grammys. Disgusting. Fucking f*gs need to go somewhere else. No disrespect to Mackelmore though.

looooooool

more disgusted with myself tbh for clicking on a "here's some tweets" Jezebel post

lol x2 re no disrespect to macklemore

Weird but sort of cool to see someone I actually knew in real life (trumpeter Roy Campbell) pop up in the memorial montage.

― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Monday, January 27, 2014 12:25 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I missed that, and wouldn't have believed it if I'd seen it. Glad they mentioned him.

It's too bad that Ben Young didn't win for Best Album Notes, because the book that accompanies the New York Art Quartet box is absolutely essential reading for anyone with an interest in the new music of the 60s.

macklemore text to kendrick lamar is the most self-indulgent thing I've ever seen

hey I accepted this award on stage, but I feel bad about it, so I'm going to make myself feel better by texting you, and make me look cool by posting it online

the right thing to

STYLIN ON U

macklemore has no idea how to be a rapper what a fn lame

...say woulve been

STYLIN ON U

the best part tho is that the contact is called real kendrick lol did he get duped once or something

max made that joke already :/

yeah i knew 2 dudes in the memorial. that was a little weird

macklemore text to kendrick lamar is the most self-indulgent thing I've ever seen
dude is so ridiculously full of himself that i think he's gonna pop like a tick and explode terrible music all over the place

even more terrible music

mh
Posted: January 27, 2014 at 6:26:56 PM
max made that joke already :/

its not... a joke

Good Smart Worker
@DinkMagic
the most important thing is human rights and gay rights
*guy raps about how gay is good and all the moms are like wow*
fuck that stupid guy
4:30pm - 27 Jan 14

jsl

@DinkMagic: macklemore huh... dont think so. ever hear of appropriating things ?

White Feminist
‏@WhiteFeminist
Macklemore's #BestRapAlbum win is a #paradigmshift for the #MusicIndustry. Proud of them 4 bringing #equality & #civility to the category!

oh dear my mother just texted me a photo of macklemore's album: "just bought this at my local starbucks!" :'(

hahaha

lmao

tell her she coulda found one at the thrift shop for much cheaper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uzR0ZoZPjU

Macklemore's not the best rap album

Someone with a better grasp of hip-hop history than I (read: someone with any grasp of it at all, really) could probably write something great contrasting Macklemore’s cutesy romanticization of seeking out low-cost clothing with rap music that treats urban poverty with the gravitas it deserves. (And if this piece already exists, can someone send it to me?)

But anyway, Macklemore put out a few other singles over the year and a lot of people LOVED THEM, and they were played on loop in Kohl’s department stores across the land. One of those songs is called “Same Love,” and it’s about gay marriage. It’s extremely popular. That’s fine. It’s not the worst song in the world, and as far as political pop tunes go, it’s way better than, say, the Hillary Clinton song or the predictably unlistenable “No Labels Anthem.”

So: not the worst song in the world. But also not the best. “Same Love” is kind of flat, and very, very preachy — essentially, the highwater mark (at least, I hope it’s the highwater mark, because it’s hard to see how the water could get higher) of politically correct, intellectually lazy hipster sanctimoniousness. There are worse songs, like anything by Pitbull. But there are also way, way better ones, and a lot of those were on good kid, m.A.A.d. city, a really gorgeous, moving album by Kendrick Lamar about life in Compton that was also up for Best Rap Album. That album should have won.

national review? o_O

lol

I... what the... I can't really process this

NRO... OTM? wtf is going on here

can't wait for the comments

they are already starting with a bang

all part of the "deep look inwards" after the 2012 election iirc

nothing unites Americans like getting upset about macklemore

Nordog6561 • 7 minutes ago −
Best Rap Album Award?

Isn't that like Best Colostomy Bag Award?

I mean, sure, it's important to someone, but it still full of... rap.

People who hate hip hop have the worst jokes

*People who hate hip hop have the worst joke

(c)rap

There are worse songs, like anything by Pitbull.

Timber>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Greer, I love you baby but

just watched the "Get Lucky" performance again...it really was the best of the night. Just glorious fun, smiles everywhere (look at Nile/the band, smiling the whole time!), and what appeared to be a legit dance party out in the crowd. Good enough incorporation of "Le Freak" and "Another Star." The set looked good, the concept was cool and not over the top like Kendrick & the m.A.A.d Dragons, etc. I seem to like Pharrell more than most people here, tho, I dunno.

I hope that's in relation to Macklemore because I am terrified to compare my irrational Pitbull love to good kid, m.A.A.d. city

The arrival of "Timber" is when I realized Pitbull had managed to completely exist the considerable reserve of goodwill I once had for him.

completely exhaust*

national review? o_O

― raggett neds of your summer dress (The Reverend), Monday, 27 January 2014 19:56 (14 minutes ago) Permalink

Notwithstanding her being right about Macklemore, she's obviously employing the South-Park-Conservative "hey black people! white liberals are not your friends" canard.

also, while the band for Daft Wonder was tight as hell, Pharrell was full-on terrible and basically shat on the performance

THANK YOU. When Stevie sang I heard the song everyone else has been praising since last April

(also: not sure "Another Star" mash-up worked)

yeah, i tried to hedge a bit with "good enough" ... wasn't perfect, but i thought it was OK, esp. for an awards show

by contrast, Pink did a full-on Cirque du Soleil routine that including lifting a dude which may or may not have been lip-synched, but then definitely sang live with Nate Ruess like 30 seconds later and wiped the floor with him

yeah Stevie way outshined Pharrell even if he forgot 40% of the words!

Omar Hakim + Nathan East + Nile Rodgers + Paul Jackson, Jr. + Chris Caswell were the ones who really slayed imo

I mean, the only vocal performance that was worse was Madonna

hasn't Pink been doing the circus strongwoman act every award show for the past 10 years?

probably, I think that's what her live show is now

I thought the show was pretty enjoyable. I missed Beyonce, and hate Daft Punk and Robin Thicke, but P!nk was spectacular, that berzerk Imagine Dragons / Kendrick thing won me over even though I don't really like either of them, and I thought both Taylor and Keith Urban were great. Urban's "Cop Car" got a single vote in P&J. So now I look kind of prescient, eh? And Black Sabbath won a Grammy! And the Gypsy Kings and Ladysmith Black Mambazo tied for best "world" album, which validates my standing definition of "world" music as "African anything plus the Gypsy Kings".

On the other hand, that McCartney/Grohl etc. thing seems to me like a pretty good summary of everything that's wrong with the actual awards. Oh, and Led Zeppelin. Most of them, actually. But I enjoy the show a lot more than the awards themselves.

oh, I also thought Taylor was bad and completely shown up by both Kacey Musgraves and Sara Barelleis

Not sure where to post this, but does anyone remember the piece (post?) featuring a pretend Trent Reznor describing to Lindsey Buckingham the outfits that he would have to wear while on tour with NIN?

Nice of Grohl to not thank Kurt as "the reason why I'm here"

Also: What Kind of Schwag Was at the Grammys Gift Lounge?

dyl
Posted: January 27, 2014 at 7:35:11 PM
oh dear my mother just texted me a photo of macklemore's album: "just bought this at my local starbucks!" :'(

looool perfect

by the way, is there anything stopping Mr. 'lemore from calling Kendrick up to the podium and handing him the trophy? that was my first thought after reading the broadcasted text.

besides the fact that he actually wants to keep the trophy, i mean.

"Another Star" never doesn't work.

lol, alpine, I had the exact same thought.

xpost

(But in this particular case, the byplay between that and the "Around the World" hook was extraordinarily charming.)

Not sure where to post this, but does anyone remember the piece (post?) featuring a pretend Trent Reznor describing to Lindsey Buckingham the outfits that he would have to wear while on tour with NIN?

Was that in the Hesitation Marks thread? Also it was Adrian Belew that nearly joined the NIN touring band. Also if Mikey Reznor decided he wanted Lindsey Buckingham on fingerstyle guitar + backing vox on every new NIN track I would not complain

Incidentally, as someone who only barely knows about anything within mainstream pop culture, my impression from the awards show is that hip-hop and country are now gay-friendly.

That said, I am pretty sure the two acts in question are outliers in that regard.

Brian 1 hour ago

Barbadian singer Rihanna won one award. A black man won for Best Improvised Jazz Solo. A black woman won for Best Jazz Instrumental Album. Black people swept the gospel categories. Bob Marley's son won a reggae award. The transvestite character who leads the Broadway musical "Kinky Boots," which also won, was a black man.

"White people win" only if you let them. Open your ears, pay attention to music written and performed by black people, and you will quickly find many, many winners. Please go back and write a better article.

people still use the word "transvestite"

http://cdn.motinetwork.net/demotivationalposters.net/image/demotivational-poster/0911/sweet-transvestite-transvestite-rocky-horror-cult-classic-demotivational-poster-1259614507.jpg

Man fuck Macklemore in the peehole

he might like that, I hear he can draw

http://i.imgur.com/0Z1Ia48.png

considering how much this schmuck's 'journey' is such a big part of his 'narrative' or whatever i'm not sure why ppl everywhere keep posting these old tweets of his. it'd be like 'discovering' whittaker chambers used to be a communist.

thanks to this discovery William F. Buckley had a career and mandate

This is where you admit to actually keeping tabs on Macklemore's narrative xp

Well, that narrative is outlined in that song that was performed last night. Doesn't take a large amount of effort or research.

i caught thirty seconds of his rob portman jam in a subway last summer, thought 'o, so this must be macklemore' and 'o, so this must be why whiney loves subway'

i mean i'm not digging thru five years of macklemore tweets for example

^^ next EMP paper proposal

"Digging in the Dirt: Finding the Places Where Macklemore's Tweets Hurt"

this time you've gone too far

the old Macklemore tweets are more hilarious "look at this doofus" than "OMG caught in hypocrisy" tho

yeah its just funny and #petty

haha true

That bit where someone announces "John Legend, um, Lennon".

While Yoko is standing next to her.

did that seriously happen wtf

the writing for that show was so horrible -- well beyond standard award show horribleness -- that any deviation whatsoever from the script, including saying legend instead of lennon, was an automatic improvement.

I don't read Dutch but is this a story yet?

Daft Punk is the big winner of the Grammy Awards. The duo rijfde five prizes. For years hiding Thomas Bangalter and Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christ himself behind big shiny helmets.

But could it be that the duo was not on the podium, but just sat in the audience during the Grammy Awards?

Why were these two mysterious men in addition to the masked duo? And why were they explicitly mapped during the ceremony? Admit that there are similarities with a pack below (unfortunately very old) rare photos of Daft Punk without helmets:

that's pure genius if they actually attended the whole show in the audience !

maybe they were grooving with the rest of the crowd during the daft/pharrell/stevie performance...

Re: Macklemore Flip-Flop

Obama used to be against same sex marriage too. It was kind of a big deal when he "evolved" on the subject.

I don't blame people for growing in ways I feel are positive. I am cynical enough to question why in some cases, but not so cynical that I will turn what I think is a positive step for someone into a negative over suspicious motives.

You know that's a very interesting angle on Macklemore that I hadn't even considhttp://i.imgur.com/Mhb7YN9.jpg

That bit where someone announces "John Legend, um, Lennon".

While Yoko is standing next to her.

― Mark G, Tuesday, January 28, 2014 2:05 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

did that seriously happen wtf

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, January 28, 2014 2:13 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha yes it was Alicia Keys who did that

It's hard to think straight when you've got both feet on the ground, you're burning it down, your head is in the clouds, and you're not backing down.

macklemore is tight w/ pete carroll, his being a truther isn't surprising

on the same note his being a moron doofus isn't surprising either

Just want to drop in and say I've never heard the Thrift Shop song before and i just looked up the lyrics and wow eff the Grammy's forever that is some excrement.

@sheesh - yeah maybe I got the details super-wrong...

Perfect

Twitter Error?

Hm, working for me...

Not me. If you refresh it, maybe not for you anymore and it's just your cache?

https://twitter.com/daCMatic/status/428243414094991360

does this work?

That worked. It was funny, but I labored too much for the laugh. Oh well.

apparently Twitter itself was down for a bit

NAILED IT
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2014/01/macklemore_grammy_wins_don_t_hate_the_thrift_shop_rapper_because_he_s_white.html#lf_comment=133859063

The Heist is a lavish dumbscape of plodding quarter-note grooves, “Chopsticks”-style piano loops, pointless choirs singing about nothing. Lewis’ beats are kitchen sinks of bad ideas, tin-eared imprecision mistaking itself for eclecticism. His crate-digging seems to start at a Feist song he once heard on an Apple commercial and end at the music JetBlue plays before the TVs turn on. And it’s all a backdrop for Macklemore’s contrived flows and mirror-practiced charisma; even his punny pop-culture references—the last refuge of every eager-beaver dorm room M.C.—are amazingly dull. “Can’t Hold Us” boasts references to Bob Barker, Michael Jackson, Wu-Tang Clan, and Shark Week, touchstones so obvious their sole purpose is to assure the audience that Macklemore has heard of things they’ve heard of, to pat them on the back for knowing what they already know. The album’s opening track, “Ten Thousand Hours,” takes its title from a cliché in a Malcolm Gladwell book. Bro you gotta read it.

ha I've said before that people don't talk enough shit about Ryan Lewis

Until tonight I thought Wanz was named Ryan Lewis

I saw him singing the hook on Thrift Shop on SNL and I thought "well at least Ryan Lewis seems cool."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4luHEVjqKA

Dead

hahaaaaaaaaaaaa

watched that yesterday and laughed uncontrollably for a few minutes.

I know this is less catchy than petulant self-righteousness, but I thought The Heist was a pretty good and musically interesting album. It wasn't my favorite hip-hop album of the year (that was Ka's The Night's Gambit), but I'm no more outraged by its win than any other dopey Grammy verdict. I agree it would have been impressive if Macklemore had just walked over and handed Kendrick the trophy, but it would also have been lame and patronizing.

I agree that posting the text to Kendrick online was kinda dorky, but I hardly see it as the conclusive proof of utter depravity that some seem to see. I've never really understood the level of vitriol directed at the guy though.

NAILED IT
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2014/01/macklemore_grammy_wins_don_t_hate_the_thrift_shop_rapper_because_he_s_white.html#lf_comment=133859063

― Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Wednesday, January 29, 2014 12:25 AM (17 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is funny and good cause it starts out trying to argue that its the music not that whiteness thats horrible but basically concludes that that horrible of the music is inseparable from the horribleness of the whiteness

A memorable performance or a big win at the Grammy Awards can lead to a large sales boost for artists. Early data show that Daft Punk, Taylor Swift and Kendrick Lamar were among the biggest financial winners from music’s big night.

With awards for Album of the Year for Random Access Memories and Record of the Year for “Get Lucky” (along with a highly praised performance with Stevie Wonder), Daft Punk seems to have gotten the biggest Grammy boost of anyone. Random Access Memories increased its weekly sales by 91 percent for the week ending Jan. 26, the night of the Grammys. “Get Lucky,” meanwhile saw its sales increase 206 percent week-over-week, while its streams on Spotify increased by 205 percent on the Monday after the awards show.

http://business.time.com/2014/01/29/grammys-2014-sales-boost/#ixzz2rwQpSsdE

Kendrick has things to say about Macklemore's text message.

damn, that's ice cold

Fuck ya lifestlyle b.

Best is Pharrell's sullen expression.

thinking abt how he can prevent forest fires