REALITY CHECK REQUEST

I am almost 36 years old. Do I have any business wearing skinny jeans with boots like all the American U girls are sporting?

sure imo

i am 34 and i do without feeling bad/weird about it
wear it

Absolutely. I have no doubt that you could pull this off.

as long as you are skinny enough for the skinny jeans i say go for it. awesome rock chicks were wearing them long before stupid college girls anyway.

^^ that.

OK so I feel really creepy now but I just checked Q's facebook cause I was sure I'd seen a pic of your there before and it only confirmed my belief that you not only can but should rock the skinny jeans/boots combo.

Are we FB friends, E? 'Cause if not we should be! And Tehresa and everyone else on ILS.

Here is the thing--I am tall and thinish but with Michelle Obama hips. Somehow the boots seem to balance out the hips (would not wear skinny jeans without boots iirc), so I think it is OK but I don't want to be the thirty-something-trying-to-look-younger-and-only-looking-kinda-pathetic lady.

No, we're not but I will add you now!

what are michelle obama hips?

also what kind of boots?

anyway, i'm sure you look awesome.

e can you suggest friend to me i don't know quincie's real name!

i need a reality check: is it ever really okay to wear a matte red lipstick in daylight? i love it but i think it's too fancy/too clowny.

Will do!

I love matte red lipstick, day or night. As long as you're not also sporting tons of eye makeup or blush, I say go for it!

The boots are brown riding stylee boots--low heel. Michelle Obama and I are built similarly--small waists, "womanly" hips. I tend to look good in the things she looks good in--sleeveless dresses with cinched waists and A-line skirts.

lucky you!!! do you have her biceps, too?

i just worry about the lipstick so i wear it like once every few months and then i feel silly. also the only ppl in seattle who wear makeup are either girls with fratty boyfriends or like, rockabilly and i am neither of those.

Seattle girls are BOOOOORING iirc although if I had to wake up in the rain 900 days a year I might think twice about wearing a skirt & heels too, I guess.

Lip it up!!

i wake up to sun more days than rain!

;)

Never feel bad about being overdressed, as long as you're still comfortable enough to enjoy normal stuff like walking & sitting down & potentially eating a meal.

and when not sun it is usually greyish with peaking sun and only rains sporatically and lightly. but anyway grey enhances the green of the trees so <3

That's what I think! But um yeah you can laugh at me in a couple of weeks when I'm all skirted & stuff in your fair city.

oh xp

ok quincie definitely you can wear skinny jeans!!!

lol right?! She's crazy for even asking.

Cool thanks! I once wore a few kinda trendyish things and Mr. Que called me out--he's like "you're dressed like you're 23" and I'm all indignant and say "I can pull it off!" and he's all "UH."

also those pics make me all 'i am so jealous of quincie's life'. you look like you always having fun!!

i need a reality check: is it ever really okay to wear a matte red lipstick in daylight? i love it but i think it's too fancy/too clowny.

― ms. thighs (tehresa), Tuesday, November 3, 2009 12:09 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i don't know if it's okay but i do this regularly. i never really want to be wearing another kind of lipstick. i don't think it's clowny but i guess it might read too evening. don't really think it necessarily reads rockabilly.

also i <3 your display name

Lots of fun, and also lots of BO-RING (thats the part that doesn't get photographed).

The only lipstick I am wary of is frosty--a little shimmer is OK, but when in doubt go matte.

I'm also not crazy about really shiny lipgloss, which just looks like you've been eating fried chicken n' ribs after a certain age.

how does mr que dress

i would guess, in a train conductors uniform

im not sure why i just think it would suit him

oh gosh i never wear frosty!! and i'm scared of shimmer!

my compromise is the dior addict gloss - it is brighter red but a little bit sheer and shiny so it's not matte RED but also it wears off super fast :(

mr. que looks nothing like i imagined!

Mr Que *should* dress in a seersucker suit. I have been trying to get him into one for ages.

I've missed ILS! Let's bring it back. Although I can't afford to do any shopping right now, and I think for this winter I'm going to make a bunch of trapeze dresses and wear them w turtlenecks underneath.

What did you imagine Mr. Que looked like? I find him quite dashing.

I really loved that fall fashion thread a couple of years back; tried to revive it but failed ;___;

yes, let's!!! i can't shop, either, but i can lust after beautiful dresses.

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I'm jealous of you ppl who can pull off red lipstick.

i guess i pictured him looking more like tracer hand-ish? i don't know why!

E I don't see why you couldn't pull off red lipstick??? You have the bestest lips!

Aw thanks but they're sorta big and I feel like red lipstick would make me look like a clown!

Maybe I need to try a dark matte red for fall. I used to wear that sort of thing years ago and it wouldn't be as bright.

Yeah maybe you'd like more of a brick red than a true red. For brick red I swear by MAC Viva Glam 1. It is matte and wears really well. Also 100% of proceeds go for HIV/AIDS research!

Hey, fat girls can rock skinny jeans, too, fyi.

whenever i try i feel really paranoid!

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Hmmmm. I think I have (but forgot about until just now) Viva Glam. I will have to check when I get home but I'm pretty sure that do. I have one that is a really deep read and it's def one of the VG ones so that's prob it. Will have to wait until my lips heal though. Matte lipstick and chapped lips def not a good combo.

err deep red not read

I'm not so sure I'm with you on the fat girls/skinny jeans combo. I generally tend to think that it only looks good on very thin ppl. Straight leg jeans are another story but I'm talking about tight skinny jeans.

I'm a fat girl and I love skinny jeans. Okay I'm not really fat but I have giant cheesecake thighs (interpret that as you wish) that are mega-hard to fit into pants. But nothing else is tapered enough, b/c if I buy jeans that aren't tight on my thighs, the bottoms are always like bells.

So low-skinnies it is. They end up looking kind of like the cigarette pants of formal wear, but because the fabric has so much more body than, say, silk shantung, it's okay that you're putting force on the seams. You can wear 'em really tight and the denim helps control the curves.

NNNOOOOO ENBB MY MOUSE-FINGER JUST SLIPPED AND I SB'ED YOU! I will write to a mod immediately.

I didn't think I could pull it off either, but I tried a pair on and loved them and bought them and now I love them and wear them all the time and I'm like fat for real (18/20W). They are... what are they, Amanda? Pencil jeans? as opposed to the straight up art school hipster super skinny jeans, so maybe that makes a difference. But it can be done!

I guess my point is that if I only dressed according to Fashion Rules for Fatties, I'd be doomed to a life of vertically striped baby doll tunics and elastic waist knit pants.

Yeah, I despise boot-cut pants and that's all the magazines want me to wear, you know, to "balance out" my unacceptably enormous ass area. Sorry, but you can keep your BS fashion advice and ship mah fooking jeans, okay?

i will admit to owning some skinny jeans but i've been hesitant to wear them lately. mostly bc it makes me feel out of balance since i am a lot more top heavy.

mr. que looks nothing like i imagined!

Huh, he looks almost exactly like I imagined. (Erm, sorry, carry on.)

Yeah, I thought they would make me look like a giant ice cream cone, but seriously, I tried on a pair on a whim and it was definitely an OMG moment in the dressing room. It helps that they generally fit well everywhere else, too, even though they are a little more low-rise than I would prefer (my sartorial concession to being old is that I prefer to avoid really low rise jeans).

See, I think this generally fit well everywhere else, too is pretty key.

oh i like the higher waisted ones! i hate low rise things so much!!!

but i would also wear corsets if it were not uncomfortable/goth/horribly dated.

You can always split the diff and wear reinvented girdles, but they're really only worth it under something wasp-waisted.

i love belted waists, too. i have this wide belt that i like to wear w/ an a-line skirt sometimes <3
but i never have anywhere to dress up for anymore!

See, I think this generally fit well everywhere else, too is pretty key.

Totally. But that's a function clothing fit and not body size.

xp oh god they are selling a corset-looking girdle garment in Walgreens now! It has some kind of a clever name, and is probably an "As Seen on TV" thing. I was in a hurry or I would have investigated further.

oh see i don't want one of those. i want a beautiful, pretty corset.

Outside of possible use as a Halloween costume component, I can't imagine that anybody would want one. It lacks of loveliness of a proper corset and, just a guess but come on, the functionality of a real girdle.

I'll give you functionality:

Rago Shapewear

Or, a little fancier but they carry some of the same, plus adorable tap pants that I want 73 pairs of:

Secrets in Lace

Hey, fat girls can rock skinny jeans, too, fyi.

― she is writing about love (Jenny), Tuesday, November 3, 2009 12:43 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm!

Erica, you can definitely wear red lipstick!

ooh those are pretty
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On a completely different note, why are suits always black, gray, or navy. Or if they are an actually color, why do they look cheesy?

I'm talking womens suits, btw, which is my preferred cool-weather uniform.

i hate suit pants!
they are always pleated or cut to make your ass look dumpy.
hate.

None of mine are pleated! But maybe they do make my ass look dumpy :(

But I hate those straight-cut just-above-the-knee-length skirts that tend to be part of the suit thing. The very definition of dowdy looking iirc

my favorite suit is a grey tweed from h&m. it has a skirt with a little fishtail just below the knee and a belted jacket. i just wish the jacket was a little longer.

I really wish there was a Jos. A. Banks type shop for women's suits, where you can go in person to try on and mix and match different suiting styles with an in-store tailor and they will keep a little card with your measurements and everything.

I can pull off straight-suit skirts by they ALWAYS need serious tailoring, especially if they aren't coming from a plus-sized focused retailer (and if they are, that means they are made not of quality wool suiting fabrics but of soul-crushing poly nonsense) and it's a huge pain in the ass. My special needs are are suit jackets, since it's hard to find one that accommodates my big boobs while nipping in enough in the waist to show off my shape. Between the lack of shaping and the shoulder pads, suit jackets just make me look like a giant, professional cinderblock. I usually get around that by going the twin-set route, but it's so easy to be dowdy if I'm not careful.

Were I to win the lottery the first thing I would do is get some bespoke suits for realz.

mmmmm

and yeah, the boobs + waist thing is the biggest pain in the ass everrrrrrrr. my boobs are shrinking :( but not enough to make that kind of difference yet.

For me it is the hip-to-waist ratio that is infuriating and also requires endless tailoring.

But I hate those straight-cut just-above-the-knee-length skirts that tend to be part of the suit thing. The very definition of dowdy looking iirc

Haha these skirts are my life. I love them. But if you have a suit like this already and you don't like it, or you want to try again, try adjusting the length for your proportions. Either have it taken up to be a little fresher, or either let it down, if there's enough hem allowance, or add length with a contrast ribbon or decorative pleated ruffle or something. You should be able to get a good 2.5 inches or so from something like that.

If you have a good tailor and can do more than minor alterations, have it tapered more along the side seams so it's a pencil skirt-fit.

Maybe some of that will help.

Actually I go for just BELOW the knee because otherwise my knees are sort of pudgy and...dare I say "cute"? And not very grown-up.

I was actually going the bespoke suit route. I found a bespoke tailor convenient to me and started by having some shirts made, figuring that I would start small and work my way up to a suit (one piece at a time, due to crazy cost). Sadly, I'm just not thrilled with the shirts. I had to really harp on the fact that yes, I am a fat woman but I have a defined waist, and am not interested in hiding my shape and that all I wanted were some shirts that buttoned across the boobs and had shaping through the waist. The third time I went back for a fitting, I got them to acquiesce to putting some darts in the back, but the overall silhouette is still kind of boxy and too big in the waist. I wear the shirts, since I spent my clothing budget on them and they aren't terrible by any means, but I was just frustrated by the whole experience. Maybe I wanted too much, I don't know, but if I do go back down the bespoke road, I'm going to have to shop around for a tailor who specializes in fatties.

i hate buying button down shirts for this reason. if i knew how to sew i would just buy the big shirt and then take it in via back darts, but alas, i know nothing of sewing other than replacing buttons.

I haven't owned a button down shirt in years.

Horseshoe thanks for the red lipstick vote of confidence. Gonna try to find that Viva Glam and give it a whirl later tongiht.

Maybe I wanted too much, I don't know, but if I do go back down the bespoke road, I'm going to have to shop around for a tailor who specializes in fatties.

― she is writing about love (Jenny), Tuesday, November 3, 2009 1:42 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this sucks, Jenny! there have to be tailors around who can do this for you. it sucks that you already blew some money, but i think you should keep looking if you have the energy.

I gave up on button downs as well. Along with the unflattering shape thing, I'm so long through the torso that I could not keep the damned things tucked in. I now refuse to tuck (I wear tshirts under my suits lol).

I probably will, horseshoe, but after the holidays. It can be a project to get me through the winter!

Found the viva glam and tried this tonight. It was sort of scary and bright but maybe I could pull it off if dressed up? This stuff doesn't come off though, man. I've been sitting around in a sweatshirt and dark red lipstick all night. I look confused.

For me it is the hip-to-waist ratio that is infuriating and also requires endless tailoring.

quincie, i totally FEEL U MAN! i have 32" waist, 45" hips. it is basically a nightmare.

tza... i dunno if you might find this useful

oh fuck hang on

http://angrychicken.typepad.com/angry_chicken/2009/10/forms.html

as i was saying: ^^ tza this link is good for adding some shape to blouses/tops in an easy way

also: i have had a revelation about jeans. i always thought i could only wear bootcut, bc of my enormous hips. finding pants has been a nightmare for me. so i was at this thrift store awhile back and i grabbed these straight leg jeans, for lack of anything else to try, and amazingly they looked great! i never imagined that i could wear jeans like that.

i'm sad i missed thread participation today!! stupid work.

that would be a great idea if i had a sewing machine! so many pretty blouses i do not buy because they are too baggy and weird.

i have put a portable sewing machine on my birthday wishlist!! i only realised recently that you can get really good, really cheap ($50!!), basic sewing machines.

hmmmmm

i have such a long list...

YES, JUSTINE! BREAK FREE OF BOOTCUT JEANS!!!

Rah rah etc

imo fat girls should wear skinny jeans

somewhat style-related reality check request

should i shave y/n?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3503/3789589933_7bc7f88d87.jpg

I am a fan of clean-shaven n/a imho

Yes, I think I agree.

ok i probably will today because when i was using the beard trimmer yesterday apparently i accidentally switched to a shorter setting for one side of my face so now my facial hair is obviously shorter on the left side than on the right and i think i look insane?

thumbs up on the gray hair, too (from someone with a lot of gray hair)

nick i think u should wear skinny jeans and red matte lipstick

wear a boot on your head

sad that max has obviously never checked out my band

don't feel bad n/a--max thinks i'm a railroad engineer

we're called ollie comettrail and the exploding mudcats of xanadu

No! Don't shave!

not a railroad engineer, que, a conductor

http://parisparfait.typepad.com/paris_parfait/images/2008/02/26/conductor_2.jpg

imagine if jennifer herrema thought she was too old for skinny jeans, what then?

n/a i say shave or grow it full out - beardo or nothin. i hate that in between look.

I advocate full beard.

i'm not a very hairy dude, it doesn't really grow out much more than that i don't think. i'm going to shave today but i might decide let it grow back out again later, if i do i'll just let it go all out and see what happens

sorry jenny. i think i basically have to shave due to my aforementioned shaving accident.

Solution:

http://media.photobucket.com/image/fake%20beard/djseymourbutts/nautical-beard-black-big.jpg

FINE WHATEVER NICK

nick you're a pirate

how so

if you take jenny's suggestion, with that suit you'd have to be a pirate

There are so many varietals of skinny jeans though. Sometimes I get what I think are skinny jeans, and they end up kind of baggy because they have so much stretch. Then there are the kinds that are so tight and stretchy they are almost like wearing tights or leggings out of jean material. I think you basically have to wear skinny-ish jeans with tall boots though, yes? Otherwise you get major bunchiness around the knees. Mr. Q, why are you being a hater? My sister always tries to tell me I am dressing too young for my age; it is infuriating.

I wear my jeans short. I like them at the ankle-bone or above, and I hate tucking jeans into boots. It's just not for me. But take my word for it, there are ways, secret ways, that involve neither bunching nor boots.

i also like short jeans because i think one of my most attractive features are my slender ankles. but i am built sort of boyishly, so i have to appreciate the little curvature i have.

anyway, i think only fullbearded men should have beards b/c otherwise it looks scanty
shave it

oh and for the record, i like skinny (tapered) jeans, i tuck them into boots, i am 34 and anyone who doesn't like it can go eat a peach

also jenny i think those were called cigarette pants? can't remember.

The problem with that is that peaches are delicious.

xp yay Amanda, we're thinking exactly alike.

i'm a charitable grump i guess

laurel we also share a zest for dressing to please ourselves only
i wore a gunne sax dress to a metal show and i have never been happier with my clothing choices

see I don't know what a gunne sax dress is and that pleased me just to read it

I do know what one is and it pleased me to read it too :D

well you would have been pleased by my dress had you attended this show, then. all i meant was that i wear clothes that make me happy/feel good/etc and if that occasionally looks like i'm wearing a costume then so be it. do not care.

Yeah, that's why it pleased me to read it! It's a good approach to clothing imo.

Well I actually meant that I used the term "cigarette pants" earlier in this thread to describe exactly that look. :) But I'm happy to be your pal in individuality.

i am wearing skinny jeans right now but they are ones that i refuse to wear out of the house until i lose like 5-10 more lbs bc the stupid girl at the store told me they were gonna stretch a lot and the size up fit such that if they stretched any more, they'd look stupid, so i bought the size down, which has... not stretched. good motivation, but frustrating for getting dressed. and also they probably look stupid but they have zippers by the ankles!

they will fit, fuck the haters

some day :(

Don't make me mad at you T. How many times have I told you recently how awesome you look?? How many?? ;-)

the realest of talk

wait this was not meant to be a comment about being unhappy with myself but rather that the salesgirl LIED.

well to be fair she did her job :/

ie sold u jeans

Ahhh ok I probably misread. Anyway hey Tza have I told you how awesome you look lately? ;)

i would have bought them w/out her just in the size that fit!!!

they were cheap anyway, i was getting them to be 'in between' jeans but oh welllll

<3 e

(both e's!)

Oh man when I lost a bunch of weight a couple years ago I didn't bother getting in between clothes because I was too cheap so nothing fit for MONTHS and all my pants had a baggy ass. It was NAGL.

yeah i was basically in a 'i have no jeans' situation and then after this debacle i just gave in and shrunk a pair of my bigger ones, which is kind of dumb bc after 1 wear they get big again, but i'm holding off on shopping trips for now bc broek lol.

In some ways though it's great because you can hold off for a while and then go on a shopping spree and delight in your new much smaller clothes. That's what I did anyway. I guess it was sort of a reward to myself.

this is NAGL:

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp95/tza/aa.jpg

i am all for awesome purple pants, but uh... wear a long shirt? or at least pants tailored to fit properly?

Uhhh, that's real? Ew.

srsly reminds me of the bruce pic if u know what i mean

lollllll yes tbh honest nothing about what she has on is very good. AA ppl on crack imo.

i request reality check be sent to american apparel. they need to cease and desist w/ the overpriced clothing not meant for any person to wear.

the line should be drawn before reaching UNITARD
it has been long crossed
they need a reality check reckoning

u guys can hate but ws

I'm not saying anything about the girl herself just that she's dressed like a total dickhead.

the thing. . . on her head. . . why?

she certainly doesn't look very happy/comfortable about what she's wearing
it's not convincing me that i need to get skintight purple highwaisted spandex jeans.

Do the secret ways (of preventing bunching) involve tucking your jeans into your socks? I seem to recall doing this in high school (when weating boots).

i don't have bunching probs if my pants fit properly (ie are tight)

Much better use of purple jeans:

http://www.theartofmovieposters.com/ForSale/Images/DesperatelySeekingSusan2.jpg

Do the secret ways (of preventing bunching) involve tucking your jeans into your socks?

Haha oh no. I just don't wear jeans longer than my ankles. Also, I jam them down over the tops of my motorcycle books, I like that look. Or I cuff 'em. Or both. But never wear them long.

Books? Boots, obv.

I can't even find boots that will zip over my bare legs, god forbid I ever stuff socks or jeans into them too. I mean it's a physical impossibility.

i wouldn't usually wear anything that zips over pants, but these (i have them in grey) are just right. they're also not super tall, which is good for me b/c i am v short.

http://www.justinbootstore.com/order/justin/images/3133.jpg

sure, they're "cowboy boots" but they don't always look like COWBOY BOOTS ie snakeskin with a cuban heel

So shiny and nice! Amanda, do you want a dove grey women's motorcycle jacket? I have a vintage one that doesn't fit me. Not Harley-ish, it's waist-length w elastic around the bottom and the cuffs, and has a mandarin collar with piping. Kind of like something you imagine CHIPS would wear? But for a laydee. Heavy and windproof.

sure! would love!

hi guys :)
i love skinny jeans and pants with boots. i have other jeans and pants but have been slowly purging them from my warddrobe. i think my true style might be: variations on a uniform. with that uniform these days being skinny jeans/pants and longish tshirts and some kinda jacket or cardigan or hoodie, maybe with a belt on it.

reality check today: probably weird to leave the house wearing three layers of belt - one on pants, one around sweater, one around jacket - removed one around sweater. i have somehow accumulated a lot of belts!

also 3 pairs of my boots are broken in 3 different ways :/ need to take to grumpy boot fixing guy

i have never managed to work the skinny jeans + boots look.. so so hard to find a decent pair of tall boots, esp in my size. i guess the cuffed jeans + short boots suits me better.

i need some boots. damn.

asymmetrical bangs: what do we think?

every time i go to get a trim i end up doing something crazy because i get indecisive and then impulsive and say let's do something fun! and now i have hipster hair.

I liked your hair so much! I wouldn't change it, tbh. Your bangs were a nice shape already.

yeah well they are not that shape anymore:(

they will grow. sigh.

let's do something fun!

ooh, i did that once at a rather pricey salon and ended up with some kind of spiky newscaster hair. i got home, realized i couldn't style it to not look awful (to me, at least), called up the place and i guess i got so angry over the phone they sort of ordered me to never come back? so i went back anyway and the owner was a total bitch. went to the hair cuttery to have it chopped off to be somewhat presentable. i'm STILL pissed, and this happened five years ago...

guys seriously i don't know what's gotten into me i have crazy hair and i bought skinny black pants yesterday because the h&m mirrors are trick make you look hot mirrors. i need a girl friend or gay boyfriend to shop with who will stop me from this kind of stuff.

i cut my bangs the other day, and realized they are a bit asymmetrical. part of me feels like i should do the "adult thing" and go pay a professional to cut my hair, but i am cheap.

Huh,the h&m mirrors in Chicago have a magical quality that makes me look extremely blobby and wan. I've not bought things because the mirrors make me feel so ugs.

How do we feel about cute fashion shorts with tights? I have two pair that I really like but I'm pretty sure no one else I know would wear them. That's never stopped me before buuuut...

Huh,the h&m mirrors in Chicago have a magical quality that makes me look extremely blobby and wan.

Thank you - the ones at the store nearest me do the same.

They really ought to do something about those mirrors.

i am confused. srsly the ones here (and in my experience at all h&ms) are like 'you are such a cute little thing!' and then later you're like 'what was i thinking?!'

i always walk in feeling pretty cute (otherwise i would not be shopping) and walk out feeling like a piece of mortadella. maybe i'm allergic to h&m.

Girl walking to train in front of me today had on tights w shorts, but sadly her inside thighs were rubbing and pulling the shorts up into her ass. I was embarrassed for her, and guys were turning around to look on the street. Totally gross.

I love you, Amanda, and I know you'll wear exactly what you want, and I hope you do. :) But I think tights with shorts are dumm.

See, I think it's an ok look for me. I would never ever wear them to work, but out to dinner or for the evening I think they're cute!

I'm not deterred, but I do feel like I need a reality check.

Am I delusional to think that this is an ok look for me?

Well I hear you have nice legs, so....

ehh i don't think wearing shorts with tights and boots is any different from subbing out the shorts with a mini skirt. i've see ladies rockin that look, with kind of 'dressy' shorts, i.e. they look like they're made from the same material as a suit, have little tabs and buttons and cuffs.

I can't see ride-up as a problem -- I'm wearing shorts more like these. not denim! (that was in high school and i am not 16 anymore, doy)

http://beauty.ivillage.com/slideshow/shorts-tights.jpg

i mean, i wouldn't personally wouldn't wear that kind of thing, but like the girl mentioned, i have big thighs that would just make me look ridiculous

If you have skinny legs that don't touch each other, at least you won't have the up-your-arse problem. But I can't get on board with the look at all. To me it signifies "a kind of person I don't/won't like", which I realize I am a cranky old bat but there you go.

:(
they're just shorts

I don't like a lot of people, it's not surprising. And I don't like shorts.

Also to be fair guys turn around to look at everyone on my street. But I will still embarrassed for that girl. No one deserves to have their inner thighs inspected on Franklin Avenue.

That girl aside, though, why the hate for shorts? They're not for everyone, and they're probably not for that girl, but dang...they're not like, I dunno, juggalo gear or something.

laurel also hates flannel shirts so <shrug emoticon>

so many rules!

I'm wearing jeans right now. There's no dress code here, and in the summer I've seen a couple guys wear shorts. But most people tend to do business-casual by default, so I generally try not to look too slovenly in comparison. Like, I feel a little self-conscious wearing band t-shirts sometimes. The guy in the cubicle next to me often has on a wacky t-shirt, but he wears a long-sleeved shirt (with the buttons open) over it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, October 20, 2006 1:40 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Oh the Midwest.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, October 20, 2006 1:41 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Pretty sure Amanda wasn't going to wear a scraggy band Tshirt and a flannel with her shorts either way.

how does he do that

But I can't get on board with the look at all. To me it signifies "a kind of person I don't/won't like", which I realize I am a cranky old bat but there you go.

Everyone I see wearing shorts over tights just looks really young and student-y and... Topshop-y? That might just be where I am though, regional variations 'n' all.

I did the shorts w/tights and boots thing when I was in high school - when I was thinner - and they were dressier shorts - so I have a certain nostalgia for that look, though there's no way I could pull that off now.

I'm sorry Laurel - but my favorite pair were plaid, but they were cut more like a skirt.

yeah i have a certain nostalgia for that look too -- i think i must be willfully ignoring something because i have yet to think of a good reason (other than repeated admonitions on this thread) not to wear them

like, a close friend is gonna have to pull me aside if this is THAT INAPPROPRIATE
it's not like i'm wearing super tight shorty shorts -- they're tasteful!

yeah - if they don't cause crotch-bunching or ass-riding, I think it could be cute.

i like the the j crew shorts + tights look posted above. don't think i could wear it though. they'd be too short on me

i also think part of this trend is.. stylists at a lot of stores & a lot of fashion bloggers figuring out that you can make just about whatever top look good if you put it on a model who is wearing either leggings, short shorts, or a very short skirt.

Amanda is you like it and think it looks good then go for it. I'm also in the wouldn't do it personally camp but I'm sure that on the right person it could look great.

note: i think we can all agree that this look is not good
http://www.modcloth.com/store/images/8-20romper2.jpg

but i think these are ok with a short jacket, black tights, white/ivory shirt maybe?
http://www.shabbyapple.com/blog/uploaded_images/forever-21-short-705637.jpg

i don't really see the difference between these ^^^ and a miniskirt aside from general peace of mind that no one is looking up your skirt.

what i find hilarious about this whole thing is that i really relish the feeling that i wear whatever i want so even if you all had been like "eeehhhh no way" i would still wear my shorts, maybe even with more gusto than before.

my only problem with the ones you pictured would be the bow belt, but otherwise, I'm with ya - could be way cute.

yeah, the ends of the bow look like a fu man chu for the crotch

also, the very real potential that it would come untied and end up getting caught between your legs.

Also to be fair guys turn around to look at everyone on my street. But I will still embarrassed for that girl. No one deserves to have their inner thighs inspected on Franklin Avenue.

― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Monday, November 23, 2009

Ahahaha Laurel I was gonna say, that girl coulda been dressed in a burlap sack head to toe and would've been getting leched at.

I said to Manda that I knew she would wear whatever she wanted, and that I hope she does!! I started off with that! Just because I hate shorts doesn't mean two hoots about what she will do.

Listen y'all, I'ma wear my shorts -- don't sweat it. I'll look cute and people will probably judge me and I will continue not to care. Just be glad I didn't ask you about the gauzy mint green bolero jacket. ;)

i think that as long as you are lovin the shorts and tights and rockin it with in yr face abandon, then everything is good! work it! not too hard, not half-assed! this is a key part of Style!

shorts & tights is an a+ look imo just no suspenders

i am wearing a t shirt with bright 3d geometric shapes atm tho

i have this thing to go to, and am trying to put together an outfit. i have a black knit dress, sort of an empire waist, above the knee, and i'm gonna wear it with a black cardigan and jewelry that is mostly brown - so is it ok to wear kneehigh brown boots? they're a darkish brown, cuban heel. it looks fine to me, with the brown jewelry, but maybe it actually looks weird?? the only brown cardi i have is kind of scruffy.

iirc there is a big anti black/brown combo contingent around these parts. However, I'm of the opinion that it can totally work esp in the situation you described. Would be even better if the jewlery was a black/brown mix but I think it's prob fine anyway. Go for it.

i think it's better with dark brown boots actually, if they are a shade that looks good with black

my fashion shorts appear to be lost
i hope you're all happy!

i'm pissed

posting here was like magic!

I FOUND THEM
i may wear them when i go to brooklyn this wekeend and see laurelita just to see how horrified she is

Lol do it!!

I need someone to tell me what not to wear as I will probably invest in a few things next week

Oh man, tights with shorts and a jacket was my go-to early-90s middle school look!

with chunky black shoes and statement necklace of course...

MINE TOO! And I'm still at it! Hence, reality check.
I wore these but cruel fate kept Laurel from being properly horrified by them ;_;

more like high school for me, tbh
sad?
shameful?
i do not believe so and have yet to be convinced otherwise

yeah, 8-9th grade to be sure.
I don't wear shorts, but I'm thinking of buying a pair to rock this look again...someone stop me!

is this terrible?
http://www.comelyfashion.com/images/D/H1156%20Bur.jpg

i feel like it's straddling this line between cute and tacky bc of the shading.