What is the appropriate number of pedals?

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What is the appropriate number of pedals to actually use in a show context?

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OptionVotes
more3
six 3
two 3
nine 2
three 1
four 1
five 1
one 0
seven 0
eight 0
ten 0
zero 0


n/a, Monday, 30 July 2007 19:04 (seventeen years ago)

The answer is two.

n/a, Monday, 30 July 2007 19:04 (seventeen years ago)

Which two, though?

John Justen, Monday, 30 July 2007 19:06 (seventeen years ago)

Irrelevant.

n/a, Monday, 30 July 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago)

(Distortion and delay)

n/a, Monday, 30 July 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago)

(the double D's)

n/a, Monday, 30 July 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago)

I feared the inclusion of a chorus. Thanks for restoring my faith in humanity.

John Justen, Monday, 30 July 2007 19:16 (seventeen years ago)

As few as you can get away with, I say. I voted for two, though. I use a tuner (does that count?) and distortion.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Monday, 30 July 2007 19:44 (seventeen years ago)

My delay pedal has some kind of b.s. "chorus delay" option that I never use.

n/a, Monday, 30 July 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago)

I am not in Coldplay.

n/a, Monday, 30 July 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago)

My friend must have over 10, but I've always settled for a more minimal set-up myself. I use a Zoom GFX-3 & a Kaos Pad KP3.

Operator plug, Monday, 30 July 2007 20:38 (seventeen years ago)

4-6, depending on number of connector cables i can find

6335, Monday, 30 July 2007 22:54 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Monday, 30 July 2007 23:01 (seventeen years ago)

As many as are required by the music. No more.

libcrypt, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 04:20 (seventeen years ago)

One more than is required by the music.

HI DERE, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 05:05 (seventeen years ago)

I voted 5. I use :

Band #1 : delay + mild overdrive + big crunchy overdrive (3 pedals)

Band #2 : delay + phaser + tremolo(sometimes) + mild overdrive + big crunchy overdrive + big muff fuzz or other distortion pedal (5 or 6 pedals)

5 or 6 is plenty, especially when you factor in the number of tones you can get by adjusting pickups/tone/volume controls on the guitars (Jazzmaster or Tele)

Dr.C, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 09:17 (seventeen years ago)

You people are insane. I would have voted for ten or more, but counted and found that I only use 9 on a regular basis.

1) tuner/power supply (most important in chain)
2) overdrive (light volume boost)
3) harmonic generator
4) distortion (BIG fuzz)
5) chorus
6) tremolo (prefer stereo, but currently mono)
7) phaser
8) wah-wah
9) delay
sometimes I use a reverb pedal, too, depending on the amp.

How could I do without any of those? I suppose I could take out the phaser and use a slow chorus, but I don't like having to switch back and forth. OK, Harmonic Generator is pure butter, but I like it.

The smallest number I've ever used at a gig is 3 - and that was an "acoustic" gig! Distortion, Phaser, Delay.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 10:03 (seventeen years ago)

minimum of three. sometimes i use up to seven, but not much these days

electricsound, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 10:25 (seventeen years ago)

six. tuner->wah->fuzz->o/d->trem->boost.

although i wish i used fewer because that way i wouldn't have to worry about hitting the wrong ones and pulling cords out etc.

pretzel walrus, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:12 (seventeen years ago)

I put three.

My reasoning is as follows: Given typical club sound reinforcement and a typical club audience's level of Giving a Shit, I need precisely three sounds: clean, dirty, and weird.

Your audiences may vary, but the audiences I'm familiar with are either not be able to discern--or, more likely, will simply care about--finer distinctions of levels of dirt and levels of weird and degrees of lushness in your clean.

Now, I can do this with two pedals--the unmitigated amplifier being the clean sound and the two pedals being distortion and a rotating weird slot (occupied by a phaser, envelope filter, delay, or something else depending on my mood and on the songs planned).

But three pedals allows for people who really do need both dirty AND dirtier, or weird AND weirder.

Sometimes I use an A-B-both box to make switching guitars easier--does that count?

The Mad Puffin, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:51 (seventeen years ago)

um, that should be: "...either not be able to discern--or, more likely, will simply <b>not</b> care about--finer distinctions...."

The Mad Puffin, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:52 (seventeen years ago)

Like Masonic upthread, I have a minimum requirement of nine pedals also.

1) Tuner
2) Octave, detuner, harmonic mucking about
3) fuzz/overdrive/square wave
4) Wah
5) Phaser
6) Compressor
7) Analog delay
8) Digital delay/reverb
9) Tremelo

On occasion I have more because I'll A/B into a different chain. (guitar -> different distortion -> AC30 "bright" channel)

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 19:12 (seventeen years ago)

If you are really into pedals, the correct answer is "five less than you usually bring with you".

Nubbelverbrennung, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 19:37 (seventeen years ago)

ideally, i run something like this:

boss tuner -> homemade ampeg scrambler -> mxr+ distortion -> marshall shredmaster or boss fuzz or green/silver/black big muff (in order of preference) -> zvex machine -> boss dd-3 delay

i also have this crummy solid state reverb unit that i will sometimes put @ the end of the chain

i just bought a bunch of pedals from my buddy, (zvex fuzz factory, danelectro french toast, homemade crossover distortion, DOD compressor, some tremolo pedal, ibanez tubescreamer) so i may be heading up to that 9-10 range that some of you are already at...

6335, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 21:07 (seventeen years ago)

i'm wary of getting into j mascis territory, though. i saw him play a show where he had something like 40 pedals going and he had to use this huge homebrew switching box to control them all. for all those pedals, i only noticed 3 or 4 different tones

6335, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 21:10 (seventeen years ago)

I figure that if I'm still below the number that Gilmour used on the Animals tour then I'm doing OK

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 22:51 (seventeen years ago)

What I'm using right now...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1149/965076377_3e65690a9a.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 22:52 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 23:01 (seventeen years ago)

Well that was definitive!

Also, anyone whose list didn't include a Rangemaster needs to up their count by one...

rogermexico., Wednesday, 1 August 2007 00:16 (seventeen years ago)

Also, anyone whose list didn't include a Rangemaster needs to up their count by one

Negative. I don't want to sound like a beer commercial.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 00:45 (seventeen years ago)

Or like every other clod in Los Angeles with a Les Paul and a Marshall.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 00:48 (seventeen years ago)

That's a Vox, you heartless bastard.

rogermexico., Wednesday, 1 August 2007 04:52 (seventeen years ago)

Your audiences may vary, but the audiences I'm familiar with are either not be able to discern--or, more likely, will simply care about--finer distinctions of levels of dirt and levels of weird and degrees of lushness in your clean

You might be right, but I care about it. I don't buy the argument that just because every nuance won't get across, it's not worth making the effort.

Personally the levels of dirt that I use are quite different sounds and while the audience might not know or care that the guitar is 'making a different' noise at a particular point in the song, it hopefully has the effect of enhancing the overall sound and creating the right dynamic to get the song across as a whole.

Dr.C, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 10:43 (seventeen years ago)

The poll results look like a kickass chorus.

MORE SIX TWO NINE THREE FOUR FIVE!
ONE SEVEN EIGHT TEN ZERO!

HI DERE, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 11:11 (seventeen years ago)

or an outtake of "warsaw" where ian's having an in-session seizure

pretzel walrus, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 13:53 (seventeen years ago)

Nick is correct, the answer is two (bass drum & hi-hat).

Jordan, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 14:37 (seventeen years ago)

what about double bass lol

Seriously though, and forgive me for the stereotype, but I feel like a lot of times when I see a guitarist with what seems like way too many pedals he also tends to be playing a Paul Reed Smith into a Mesa Boogie halfstack and the drummer has a double bass pedal and the band name is written on the kick drum in a stupid font and the keyboardist has a soul patch and the bassist sticks out his toungue when he plays and somebody has a faux-hawk.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 19:52 (seventeen years ago)

http://a65.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00933/46/08/933898064_l.jpg

St3ve Go1db3rg, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 20:05 (seventeen years ago)

You could have saved a lot of space there by saying "Incubus".

xpost

John Justen, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 20:09 (seventeen years ago)

I have no idea where you get that stereotype. When I see a guitarist with loads of pedals he OR SHE tends to be playing a jazzmaster and using a pair of matched AC-30s and is wearing a stripey t-shirt or a black button-down shirt buttoned up tight.

and this is a VERY GOOD THING.

And MySpace is blocked for me, or I could have a load of pictures of like

mybloodyvalentine.jpg etc

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 20:10 (seventeen years ago)

Oh wait, here's one:

http://a737.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/18/l_a98337dca9fea77ece7e4c9109e682e8.jpg

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 20:11 (seventeen years ago)

I think the cruicial distinction is pedal board vs. no pedal board.

Pedal Board: St3v3's stereotype
Hour of setting up pedals on floor: MBV Stereotype
Dumped out of a suitcase and poorly wired: NOIZE

John Justen, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 20:13 (seventeen years ago)

(I am of the "more pedals = more awesome" variety, though, in general.)

John Justen, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 20:14 (seventeen years ago)

Hour of setting up pedals on floor: MBV Stereotype

I read that as "MBV Stereolab" and was all BEST SUPERGROUP EVAH!!!

I am suspicious of anyone with a pedalboard. But then again, the singer of TEY uses one now. I think it's one of those things that once you get signed and have to go on tour as the support band and don't get that much time to soundcheck any more, you kind of have to.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 20:31 (seventeen years ago)

xposts

I have no idea where you get that stereotype. When I see a guitarist with loads of pedals he OR SHE tends to be playing a jazzmaster and using a pair of matched AC-30s and is wearing a stripey t-shirt or a black button-down shirt buttoned up tight.

Yeah well I think it's different in Britain.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 20:32 (seventeen years ago)

(yeah I know MBV are Irish)

(see how I said MBV are, that's how they say it over there)

St3ve Go1db3rg, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 20:34 (seventeen years ago)

MBV are half Irish. And Kevin O'Sheilds lives in County Hampstead Heath now.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 20:40 (seventeen years ago)

Curses, foiled again.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 21:06 (seventeen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/fuzzface71/DSC_0144_11_5_edited.jpg

rogermexico., Wednesday, 1 August 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago)

Peter Holmstrom

http://img113.exs.cx/img113/9199/efects1cd.jpg

rogermexico., Wednesday, 1 August 2007 22:36 (seventeen years ago)

Josh Homme (probably changed by now)

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f158/aeroslepperin/joshpedalclose.jpg

rogermexico., Wednesday, 1 August 2007 22:38 (seventeen years ago)

I feel like a lot of times when I see a guitarist with what seems like way too many pedals he also tends to be J Mascis"

fix'd

If he's playing a Paul Reed Smith into a Mesa Boogie halfstack, he's probably not using any pedals...

http://home.no.net/hboard/gearpics/jpmainracks.jpg

petrucci'd

rogermexico., Wednesday, 1 August 2007 22:42 (seventeen years ago)

Huh, Peter Holmstrom's changed his board since the last time I talked to him.

Can't see the others, photobucket is blocked at work. :-(

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 23:19 (seventeen years ago)

Huh, Peter Holmstrom's changed his board since the last time I talked to him.

no, no, that pic's just super-old. Sorry for any confusion!

rogermexico., Wednesday, 1 August 2007 23:34 (seventeen years ago)

Kevin Shields was born in New York and Colm lives in Berkeley = MBV = 1/2 american.

I use mooger fooger + line 6 + overdrive/reverb (fender twin amp pedal switches, do these count?).

Steve Shasta, Monday, 13 August 2007 22:27 (seventeen years ago)

Does the "you have a pedalboard, you=dream theater" thing still work if you made the pedalboard yourself out of pine sheet you bought at the d.i.y. store? It saves ages setting up. My answer would have been 4:

Phaser
Tremelo
flanger

DG stomp.

Pashmina, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 09:55 (seventeen years ago)

Does the "you have a pedalboard, you=dream theater" thing still work if you made the pedalboard yourself out of pine sheet you bought at the d.i.y. store? It saves ages setting up

I hope not, as I found some sheeting at an aerospace surplus junkyard that I was thinking of making a board out of.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 19:52 (seventeen years ago)

I'm a fan of the plexiglass approach myself. Easier to line up the mounting holes.

John Justen, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 22:37 (seventeen years ago)

Large breadbox. Or hutch-top.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 03:12 (seventeen years ago)

lol @ omar from mars volta
http://img131.exs.cx/img131/5206/281626008driicjph8lk.jpg

chaki, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 03:42 (seventeen years ago)

I read that as "MBV Stereolab" and was all BEST SUPERGROUP EVAH!!!

I thought the same thing, once upon a time, but Snowpony were not all that great!

nabisco, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 22:29 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

I like the least number of pedals because I will be singing and drunk and the likelihood of stepping on the wrong pedal increases in proportion with their number. When you only have one, it's always the right one.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 17:03 (seventeen years ago)

I am playing lately with just an old delay and a cheapo Digitech multi-effects pedal: it is kind of interesting to try and develop a sound that is based on unnatural switches between different multi-effects patches. If I could get all the patch volumes balanced right, I keep thinking it'd be interesting, in a small room, to just run straight from cheapo multi-effect into a PA, and have wild tonal shifts in a totally dry/line-in guitar presence. It'd be like standing inside one of those old Robin Guthrie productions.

nabisco, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:40 (seventeen years ago)

I used to have a terrible ZOOM multieffects pedal I bought on eBay. It had like 99 "voices" and each one sounded like "Money for Nothing" by Dire Straits.

n/a, Thursday, 8 November 2007 02:10 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, see, I want to play entirely in those pre-packaged slick-ass tones. And then run straight into a PA somewhere, and unleash all the stereo effects, so you can get cheap-pedal flanging all revolving around the speakers. It'd be like the whole show was on headphones, man.

(NB I am not actually planning to do this)

nabisco, Thursday, 8 November 2007 20:29 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

you guys ... i keep thinking i should add a third effect

n/a, Monday, 31 December 2007 18:17 (seventeen years ago)

but which one?

n/a, Monday, 31 December 2007 18:18 (seventeen years ago)

everything other than delay and distortion seems unnecessary

n/a, Monday, 31 December 2007 18:20 (seventeen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/89/233015942_0cfe182c71.jpg

Jordan, Monday, 31 December 2007 18:32 (seventeen years ago)

uh huh huh huh huh huh

n/a, Monday, 31 December 2007 18:35 (seventeen years ago)

TREMOLO/ROTARY SPEAKER

John Justen, Monday, 31 December 2007 23:20 (seventeen years ago)

I use a talkbox! But I need a new amp.

1 for bass (Big Muff) then my keyboards through a mixer with an old Boss delay pedal in the effects loop. And the talkbox. So, 2 or 3, depending on if you consider the talkbox a true effects pedal (it's not).

If you added up all the pedals the other people in my band use though it's probably well into the teens.

The correct answer to the thread question however is ALL OF THEM.

nickalicious, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 00:53 (seventeen years ago)

haha when the hell does Omar play those poor neglected congas?

nickalicious, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 00:53 (seventeen years ago)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2293/1962465537_50ed81c421_o.jpg

Chris Carter: Part of my (mainly) Boss pedal collection waiting to be fight-cased. These will be used in my (non-guitar) 'modular' experimental music project: Chemistry Lessons.

S-, Friday, 4 January 2008 04:18 (seventeen years ago)

you guys ... i keep thinking i should add a third effect

Tremolo is always good. I am really loving the cheapo Danelectro Tuna-Melt right now - it does a lovely shimmer as well as a full-on chopped sound.

Or Wah?

Or maybe a fuzz - need to choose carefully depending on whether you want over-the-top 60's style snarl or big wall of noise. Can't remember what your band is like, so dunno which is more appropriate.

Dr.C, Friday, 4 January 2008 10:32 (seventeen years ago)

five months pass...

We were recording over the weekend and realized I hadn't posted an updated picture. Here's what I'm using now...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3145/2566772122_7047ed519d.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 05:28 (sixteen years ago)

seven months pass...

this is what i'm practicing with right now, though i pretty much still only use the rat and the delay pedal

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3482/3192503100_2a773f191f.jpg?v=0

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 12 January 2009 21:20 (sixteen years ago)

maraca placement is a vital part of my effects chain

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 12 January 2009 21:20 (sixteen years ago)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/blacksabbath_iommi_1971.gif

Edward III, Monday, 12 January 2009 21:31 (sixteen years ago)

How do you find the Fender Blender? - I very nearly picked up one the other day, but didn't have time to try it out first.

I'm currently using (sorry no photo to hand):

Jazzmaster/Jaguar/Tele > Boss CS3 > Danelectro BLT > E-H Electric Mistress > Bad Monkey > Boss Blues Driver > E-H Holy Stain > Boss DD3 > AC30

Occasionally I stick a Jim Dunlop Wah at the front. The BLT is for slapback so that I can run the DD3 on longer delay times. Sometimes I stick a Tunamelt on there instead. I normally pare the board down a bit for gigs by taking off the Holy Stain and the BLT.

Dr.C, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 11:32 (sixteen years ago)

i think i found out about the fender blender on IMM, probably from john justen! a friend of mine got it for me as a present last year, i think from chicago music exchange (ritzy guitar store here). it sounds pretty awesome but i honestly haven't really figured out how to actually use it, it's really too extreme to work in a lot of our songs. but i keep trying it out so hopefully i'll figure it out eventually

i keep thinking about doing the two delay pedal thing as well, i'm using a short delay on a lot of our newer songs and it would be nice to be able to switch to a longer delay easily

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 13:43 (sixteen years ago)

Hmm - I guess I really should try the Blender. I'm still searching for a fuzz pedal that I really like just for retro-ish lead lines and such. I really don't like my Fuzz Face, although I suspect that someone else could probably pick it up and make it sound amazing :(

Dr.C, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 14:16 (sixteen years ago)

Are there any good pedals to plug an acoustic into? I guess I've heard acoustic dudes using chorus pedals and they always sounded like shit.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 15:36 (sixteen years ago)

could probably do some cool stuff with delay. i am a big proponent of delay.

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 15:57 (sixteen years ago)

trick with acoustic guitars and pedals is probably going to be the potential of impedance/output level mismatch, depending on what pickup you are using. much the same reason that most acoustics sound like crap into standard electric amps.

i really like the blender, but currently i am repping for the big muff w/tone wicker for controllable old school/sometimes over the top fuzz. if you want full on crazy fuzz, the octavia delivers pretty well. if you want to spend an unfathomable amount of money and are willing to hunt for vintage, nothing beats a mosrite fuzzrite.

R. L. Stinebeck (John Justen), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 16:32 (sixteen years ago)

I am now at the point where I'm using OmniGraffle to generate block diagrams of my next pedal board.

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 22 January 2009 23:49 (sixteen years ago)

the best guitarist i play with is all about his compression pedal, at least for clean/semi-clean stuff (jazz, country, etc.). not sure if he uses it for rock stuff.

Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Thursday, 22 January 2009 23:56 (sixteen years ago)

Yep, I have my compressor almost permanently on. I love the way you get a bit of extra 'snap' for clean-ish picking stuff and arpeggios seem to jangle more. I have the Boss CS-3 and I find that if you're going to use it with overdrive sounds you need to work at finding a balance between adding enough snap for cleans, but not too much attack/sustain, otherwise you can get too much added dirt when the gain is higher. I suspect that there are much better conmpressors than the CS3, but I'm happy enough with it.

Dr.C, Friday, 23 January 2009 12:04 (sixteen years ago)

hmm i don't really understand compression pedals but maybe i need one

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 23 January 2009 12:36 (sixteen years ago)

I used a compression pedal for a while when I was getting my od by cranking up my amp--good for volume boost and some more sustain. Wasn't into it for jangly stuff, which people use it for quite often.

╓abies, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:10 (sixteen years ago)

This was my setup when my gear wasn't all boxed up in my mom's basement.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii317/RabitesAngelatin/pdlz.jpg

Have gone through a few wahs, haven't found one I like yet.

╓abies, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:10 (sixteen years ago)

Um, so it was:

1) Wah (position depends on which wah I was using)
2) Light/transparent od
2) heavier od (w/ a looper there, cuz I'm ocd)
3) bee-in-a-tin-can fuzz
4) super heavy fuzz

So not counting an occasional tuner, 4.

╓abies, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:13 (sixteen years ago)

Wait, 5. Looper.

╓abies, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:13 (sixteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

The answer is two.

― n/a, Monday, July 30, 2007 2:04 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol

so i have 5 in the photo above and i just bought a compression pedal. i sold out

now i have to learn how to use a compression pedal. does it go at the beginning or end of the chain? (i would guess beginning?)

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 6 February 2009 21:22 (sixteen years ago)

beginning is standard, and it really makes a lot more sense that way + otherwise your compressor will boost the noise floor of all yer other pedals. i do know some people that will put their wah before the compressor, but i think that is mostly weird or because they want their wah located far away from all their other stuff.

born of nililism and iconoclasm (John Justen), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:26 (sixteen years ago)

Bought a vintage MXR Distortion Plus tonight. I finally have the rest distortion pedal.

kingfish, Friday, 20 February 2009 07:55 (sixteen years ago)

Bought a vintage MXR Distortion Plus tonight. I finally have the rest distortion pedal.

Until you get dissatisfied with it and switch to another one. I'm wondering how I can easily wire things up to switch to a combination of one to three.

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 20 February 2009 08:02 (sixteen years ago)

i have a couple of those old MXR distortions+, great pedal. the reissues sound awful however

6335, Friday, 20 February 2009 23:52 (sixteen years ago)

after getting a electroharmonix HOG on loan i now am incapable of thinking about living without one, which is sort of too bad because lol money.

so many teardrop tats for making bans it looks like my neck is crying (jjjusten), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:42 (sixteen years ago)

by the way i realize that whining about how much a pedal costs when i buy them at dealer cost is super obnoxious, so ill just slap myself around a bit and call it a day.

so many teardrop tats for making bans it looks like my neck is crying (jjjusten), Thursday, 5 March 2009 21:43 (sixteen years ago)

i have a couple of those old MXR distortions+, great pedal. the reissues sound awful however

― 6335, Friday, February 20, 2009 3:52 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

That kind of goes for all of the MXR reissues. The Phase 90 and Blue Box in particular just sound wack. The Phase has too much scoop to it and the Blue Box isn't as fluid as the OG.

Dennis Croissanwich (Mexican Sleeping Pill), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:31 (sixteen years ago)

the custom shop 1974 phase 90 reissue (not the straight up script reissue) is kind of dead on IMHO, but yeah the block letter one is really a completely different pedal.

so many teardrop tats for making bans it looks like my neck is crying (jjjusten), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:34 (sixteen years ago)

after getting a electroharmonix HOG on loan i now am incapable of thinking about living without one, which is sort of too bad because lol money.

― so many teardrop tats for making bans it looks like my neck is crying (jjjusten), Thursday, 5 March 2009 16:42 (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this pedal is most awesome.

Prince of Persia (Ed), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:35 (sixteen years ago)

seriously. i spent about three hours with it yesterday and felt like i was just scraping the surface. its brilliant, and there really isnt anything else like it out there.

so many teardrop tats for making bans it looks like my neck is crying (jjjusten), Thursday, 5 March 2009 22:36 (sixteen years ago)

i've been scheming on a HOG as well. one of the dudes in our band used to have to switch between guitar/baritone/bass for various songs and he's actually now using the POG (smaller vers of HOG) for playing basslines on guitar. he still has to lug around a bass amp but it's at least saved him from having to lug around the baritone and bass guitars. i love all the various organ-like tones you can get out of it too

6335, Friday, 6 March 2009 02:46 (sixteen years ago)

the custom shop 1974 phase 90 reissue (not the straight up script reissue) is kind of dead on IMHO, but yeah the block letter one is really a completely different pedal.

― so many teardrop tats for making bans it looks like my neck is crying (jjjusten), Thursday, March 5, 2009 5:34 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

I've been using a boss ph-2 a bandmate lent me and I'm loving the phaser, now I'm looking to buy. so is the mxr custom shop the best sub-boutique one on the market? it's what I'm leaning towards. I guess I should really go down to the shop and try a bunch out. seems like some people prefer crappy phasers though, depending on the sound they're going for.

鬼の手 (Edward III), Friday, 6 March 2009 03:34 (sixteen years ago)

Another MXR Custom Shop reissue question: How are these priced? Are they any less expensive than the going rate for the vintage ones?

Dennis Croissanwich (Mexican Sleeping Pill), Monday, 9 March 2009 17:03 (sixteen years ago)

oh yeah, we sell the phase 90 custom shop reissue for $120 USD, so that should be way cheaper than an original, even one thats beat to death. Last original 70's script we sold went for $325 i think?

oscarbate (jjjusten), Monday, 9 March 2009 17:14 (sixteen years ago)

it occurs to me that i may not have gotten the 2009 price list yet(they come out some time in march) so it might have maybe gone up slightly, but still ,it isn't going to jump to $250 or anything.

oscarbate (jjjusten), Monday, 9 March 2009 17:15 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i think that's about what i paid for the mxr compressor reissue (which is great btw)

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 9 March 2009 17:17 (sixteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

yow - phase90 custom shop did stay at about $120 street, but it looks like the custom shop dynacomp is going for $175.

i think we are going to bring in the subdecay pedals - a dude i know brought in 5 of them and they are kind of genius level awesome, particularly the noise box.

ahhhhh pedals

no one is ever ready for the STAKK ATTAKK (jjjusten), Friday, 27 March 2009 21:15 (sixteen years ago)

standard dynacomp looks like its about $70, btw

no one is ever ready for the STAKK ATTAKK (jjjusten), Friday, 27 March 2009 21:16 (sixteen years ago)

noise box is indeed awesome, also prometheus and the liquid sunshine od. plus brian marshall is a righteous dude

you might look into catalinbread as well - great crew there and they're kinda on a tear right now.

ps afaik the '76 dyna comp is worth the scratch

butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Sunday, 29 March 2009 05:20 (sixteen years ago)

I'm currently doing direct in recording and am looking for an overdrive or amp modeler- any opinions on the Fulltone Fulldrive 2 or the SansAmp stuff? the Fulldrive is no doubt best with an amp but that's pretty much out of the question right now.

any other recommendations appreciated- I don't need any multi-effect gear

bela fregosi (brownie), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 13:46 (sixteen years ago)

fulldrive 2 is going to suck direct in. yer pretty much stuck with sansamp or something with a specific amp/cabinet modeling out. The digitech Tone Driver ($70) and Bad Monkey ($50) both have this option, if you are looking for overdrive specific stuff.

no one is ever ready for the STAKK ATTAKK (jjjusten), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 16:48 (sixteen years ago)

too bad about the fulldrive - my budget is 200. I've never really heard a decent amp modeller (i've only heard a few though).

thanks for the answer

bela fregosi (brownie), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 17:09 (sixteen years ago)

you're not really missing anything with the fulldrive - it's a nice toobscreamer, is all. Bad Monkey will cover you + give you the direct out you need for cheepz.

SansAmp GT2 would be the call though if you're going direct to board or PA. If you're going direct to PC/DAW, you'll want something different entirely.

butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 22:50 (sixteen years ago)

The Bad Monkey is absolutely fantastic - worth much more than it's price. It pushes tubes really well, especially for a just-broken-up or light/medium crunch sound. It's got none of the fizz that you'd expect for a pedal in this price range. The natural mid hump sounds a bit odd unless you max the treble and bass controls (at least with single coils), but if you do that it's a really rich and smooth o/d.

Dr.C, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 09:30 (sixteen years ago)

If you're going direct to PC/DAW, you'll want something different entirely

this is what I'm doing - into a digital tascam recorder. Why would a sansamp (or any amp modeller) not work in this case?

bela fregosi (brownie), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 14:00 (sixteen years ago)

anyway, all is moot now that i've just bought the sansamp "Blonde" pedal. I'll report back with some findings.

bela fregosi (brownie), Wednesday, 1 April 2009 17:07 (sixteen years ago)

Why would a sansamp (or any amp modeller) not work in this case?

Well, for PC you'd probably want something with a USB/Firewire out, is all. I'll admit I hadn't considered the digital tascam recorder scenario.

butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Thursday, 2 April 2009 18:14 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, I thought you were referring to pc recording.

After screwing around with the sansamp for two days my mind isn't totally made up yet. It does clean and full on overdrive pretty good but I'm having trouble with the in-between sound. It breaks up and not in a good way. I've actually begun to experiment with the tone and volume knobs on the guitar (something I've rarely done) which helps and since there are six knobs on the pedal I think it's only a matter of time before I dial in something I'm happy with. 2/3 so far.

bela fregosi (brownie), Friday, 3 April 2009 13:45 (sixteen years ago)

oh and the Blonde pedal is supposed to recreate the sound of Fender amps (Bassman, blackface etc). Since I've never played through a Fender amp I can't comment on the authenticity.

bela fregosi (brownie), Friday, 3 April 2009 15:36 (sixteen years ago)

i'm in the market for pedals! maybe! i've got a fender deluxe amp and i want some kinda things that'll make me sound like Galaxie 500/Feelies. What say you, I Make Music peeps.

tylerw, Friday, 3 April 2009 23:57 (sixteen years ago)

Just turn it up! You just need to get it breaking up a bit (more for Galaxie 500). No pedals reqd really.

Dr.C, Monday, 6 April 2009 08:47 (sixteen years ago)

I think I've nearly got my main setup down to two. I'm sure it'll bloom into a few more but lately I've been messing around with

this...http://images.pedalheaven.com/Images/3921210154506.jpginto http://www.proguitarshop.com/images/products/1087_01.jpg with all knobs turned to 10. Boost maxed out into the les lius (also dimed) and just shape my drive with my volume / tone knobs. Switch between overdrive and fuzz with that center button on the BB1. It's like Neil Young on fire + godzilla noises w/ the fuzz kicked in (sounds great w/ reverb up, thinking of tracking down one of those old oil can echo things down the road).

I'll probably need a volume pedal after it all cuz the signal is like ridic loud and if I'm playing into a tube amp (just my practice amp at the moment) I'll probably be frying that first 12ax7 or whatever the signal hits first.

invitation to rabies (╓abies), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 06:45 (sixteen years ago)

Sry, just pumped cuz I think I might have found "my sound" or whatever. Lord knows that'll take.

invitation to rabies (╓abies), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 06:46 (sixteen years ago)

if you want to spend an unfathomable amount of money and are willing to hunt for vintage, nothing beats a mosrite fuzzrite

For like 100 USD I'd recommend the Ashbass Fuzzbrite which is a good clone of the old Mosrite Fuzzrite. I think it's pictured above in that pedal setup of mine I posted a while back. I love the thing.

invitation to rabies (╓abies), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 06:49 (sixteen years ago)

i seriously can't begin to imagine the holy hell you get diming both of those in series, but neil young on fire + godzilla noises sounds about right.

i once ran four rangemasters in series. i lived to tell the tale but my preamp toobs did not.

butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 06:16 (sixteen years ago)

I'm ready to pull the trigger on a Grand Orbiter Phase Machine:
http://www.proguitarshop.com/product.php?ProductID=1598&CategoryID=22

Any users out there?

Carroll Shelby Downard (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 07:11 (sixteen years ago)

I like the bubbly space tremolo sound about 3/4 through that video. Most effects like this are kinda oil on water to me but that was just cool.

i once ran four rangemasters in series. i lived to tell the tale but my preamp toobs did not.

hahaha oh god. That's why I'm gonna need some way to take the signal down before it hits my amp. Can anyone suggest a good volume pedal or something for this? I've never fucked with any, or anything like that, I kinda don't know where to start.

invitation to rabies (╓abies), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:40 (sixteen years ago)

dude, the EH signal pad is perfect for what you're trying to do:

http://www.ehx.com/products/signal-pad

also it is $43 USD

PWNYTALE===========+ (jjjusten), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:55 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah that's near perfect, but is there something like this in wah pedal form??? Or is that not how volume pedals work? I might wanna push those tubes from time to time.

Or I wonder if I could just gut it and wire it into a wah casing and swap out that pot or...probably a little overcomplicated.

invitation to rabies (╓abies), Thursday, 16 April 2009 13:36 (sixteen years ago)

I mean yeah there's the on/off switch but I probably want some gradation / don't wanna TOTALLY blowtorch my amp. Need some control to toggle the gray area between an attenuated safe signal and complete nuclear death where my amp dies after one practice.

invitation to rabies (╓abies), Thursday, 16 April 2009 13:41 (sixteen years ago)

well, the problem with volume pedals is that they're fairly hard to consistently set in a half cocked position, although it occurs to me that the boss FV-50 has the ability to set the minimum sweep with an attenuator on the side (IIRC) so maybe that would work?

I will destroy you all, starting with your tiny ridiculous bathtubs (jjjusten), Thursday, 16 April 2009 14:13 (sixteen years ago)

Or fuck it I'll just tape pennies under the pedal! Or something. Well I got time to figure it before I move back to MN anyway, and I gotta get a new amp head before I can do anything, really.

invitation to rabies (╓abies), Thursday, 16 April 2009 23:30 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

What a 147 pedal board looks like: http://www.whatsthatdudeplay.com/2009/07/namm-the-worlds-largest-pedalboard-again/

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 18 July 2009 08:22 (fifteen years ago)

s/n ratio on that must be, er, interesting. Like you hit a chord but can't hear it through all the hiss.

grocery groin (snoball), Saturday, 18 July 2009 10:36 (fifteen years ago)

the appropriate number of pedals is less than 147

Polyphonic Shooting Spree (m bison), Saturday, 18 July 2009 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

Finally we can all agree on something...

grocery groin (snoball), Saturday, 18 July 2009 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

not sure what's supposed to be about "besting" their previous record of 143 pedals...congratulations, you plugged in four more things

bentley cadence (gbx), Saturday, 18 July 2009 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

boy i sure regret not going to namm this year i could have totally seen that hueg pedal board wooooo

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Saturday, 18 July 2009 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

ha i am so nonplussed i cant even pull off fake enthusiasm

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Saturday, 18 July 2009 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

so guys should i just go plug all the pedals in the store together so i too can be a famous record breaker?

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Saturday, 18 July 2009 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

do one better, link all the delay pedals you have and set to maximum time between played note and delayed note and set the record for longest time between playing the note and the arrival of said note!

Polyphonic Shooting Spree (m bison), Saturday, 18 July 2009 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

OH MAN GUINNESS BOOK HERE I COME

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Saturday, 18 July 2009 16:16 (fifteen years ago)

^^^ that is a hilarious way to spend a saturday afternoon

bentley cadence (gbx), Saturday, 18 July 2009 16:24 (fifteen years ago)

dog has the day off, gotta pass the time somehow

wax onleck, wax affleck (jjjusten), Saturday, 18 July 2009 17:48 (fifteen years ago)

I sold almost all of my pedals ;_;;;;;;;

drunk shudder shades chick gets kicked out of mcdonalds totally (╓abies), Sunday, 19 July 2009 09:33 (fifteen years ago)

I think ... didn't David Byrne do an installation type of thing where he made a "carpet" of pedals, so you'd walk across it as something played and each step would switch different ones on or off?

nabisco, Monday, 20 July 2009 20:08 (fifteen years ago)

http://journal.davidbyrne.com/2008/05/05022008-pedal.html

grocery groin (snoball), Monday, 20 July 2009 20:37 (fifteen years ago)

'hey, what happened to you?'

*rubs calf-high cast on broken ankle ruefully*

'i was over at David Byrne's and...'

natlawdp, Monday, 20 July 2009 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

It's more likely that at the end of the evening DB had a whole load of broken pedals.

grocery groin (snoball), Monday, 20 July 2009 20:57 (fifteen years ago)

Anybody have any experience with Biyang pedals? They're super cheap, and someone compared them to Danelectro, whose overdrive pedal has been fine for me.

gnarly sceptre, Thursday, 23 July 2009 14:03 (fifteen years ago)

A lot of them are knockoffs of Righteous Tones stuff I hear, though RT have been in some sorta 'transition' mode for several months now so I dunno if you can get 'em anymore/yet. I've had a couple RT pedals and liked 'em a lot. Never used any Biyang stuff, personally. Which pedals are you lookin at specifically?

drunk shudder shades chick gets kicked out of mcdonalds totally (╓abies), Thursday, 23 July 2009 17:17 (fifteen years ago)

Dunno, really. I've only been playing guitar for a few months, and so far so I've got one overdrive pedal (Danelectro) and one delay. Was thinking i'd like to play around with a phaser and/or some distortion. I was looking at the Rat distortion pedal originally, which was what led to binyang, as they do some kind of imitation, or so i gather.

gnarly sceptre, Friday, 24 July 2009 11:39 (fifteen years ago)

I was looking up BYOC pedal kits on ebay and came across this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/PORTABLE-CHURCH-CONFESSIONAL-BYOC-CONFESS-ANYWHERE_W0QQitemZ280335070559QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item414545b55f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Thomas Di Loco (Mexican Sleeping Pill), Wednesday, 29 July 2009 23:57 (fifteen years ago)


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