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$3900 for a strat some dipshit took a sander to in the factory and fucked up the paint

http://www.sweetwater.com/images/guitars/Strat63Relic/R72898/R72898-body-large.jpg

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 October 2013 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

stupid Fender "Road Worn" gimmick

Has it really been nearly five years since Fender started to really push this shit? That strat looks like it's been thrown out of the back of a moving van.

not a lunch that is hot (snoball), Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:09 (eleven years ago) link

longer than that! the road worn was the mexican equivalent of the custom shop relic stuff which has probably been going on for 20 years. 20 years of solid suck.

ACA: not bad, needs more death panels (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

in related lol fender news, they were bought by a different investment group about 9 months ago when their public offering went totally off the rails, and the dummy that runs the company just casually mentioned in an interview that they are going to implement direct to consumer sales in the next 6 months. unsurprisingly, their dealers are howling for blood right now.

ACA: not bad, needs more death panels (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

one of said dudes main bonafides is steering the rise of J Crew

ACA: not bad, needs more death panels (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

"I Accidentally Lit This On Fire While Freebasing Cocaine in a Bar Bathroom" edition

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

"Who Needs A Case?" edition

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

"Covered it in Steak Juice and Threw It Into a Steel Cage With Five Pitbulls Cause Fuck It" edition

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

The link to the 'road worn' section of the Fender website in that other thread still works, and interestingly the 'wear' on the guitars has been toned down compared to five years ago. Still a stupid idea though.
Anyway, back to railing on that strat upthread... How many times would you have to drop a guitar on the floor to get the kind of damage near the socket? Has anyone every worn off the paint on the point of the lower horn like that? Why does the scratchplate have the colour of steamrollered shit? Why am I reminded of a guitar I saw whose owner painted regular household wall paint straight onto a tobacco sunburst finish?

not a lunch that is hot (snoball), Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

...and the Rolling Stones tele is just fucking stupid, although kind of appropriate that it has a toilet on it.

not a lunch that is hot (snoball), Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

I look at these things and I think about the fact that my wife went in blind to buy me a guitar and I thank my lucky stars every day that she is not ridiculous or stupid

up up up to heaven (DJP), Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

weve honestly reached the point now where fender is ruled by its marketing department, and none of them appear to be people who actually know anything about guitars

ACA: not bad, needs more death panels (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

http://guitar-contest.com/wp-content/uploads/let-it-bleed-guitar.png

They also did this one.

how's life, Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

i've been getting a real sweet tone out of this air conditioning vent

http://onlineautonews.com/wp-content/plugins/rss-poster/cache/534ca_1122559_article_img_large2.jpg

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41pj0K9fcGL.jpg

^^this is really embarassing, even if you were that First Act company that sells $70 guitars in boxes at Wal Mart

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

http://retrothing.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/marshallradio.jpg
(it's a DAB radio)

not a lunch that is hot (snoball), Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

JJ - Peavy still makes their stuff in America right?

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

16 months of ugly-ass guitars

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

ok, I want that pink pearloid pickguard, but nothing else in that pic.

how's life, Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

oh, I missed that that was a calendar. here, look at this!

how's life, Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

Fender Road Worn... for people who really really want to have a guitar that looks like it's been stored in a shed for years...
http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/large/120/13032015054116.jpg
...only £2649!

not a lunch that is hot (snoball), Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

I would seriously consider a guitar with the artwork from The Cure on it if only because it would be amazingly terrible looking to the point of convulsive hilarity

up up up to heaven (DJP), Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

How about 'The Scream' on a guitar?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f4/The_Scream.jpg/220px-The_Scream.jpg

not a lunch that is hot (snoball), Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

there are so many shitty album covers I'd get airbrushed on a guitar if I had the dough. A few good ones too. None of them by the Rolling Stones.

how's life, Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

seriously though, I still can't believe this is a real album cover and the album's 9 years old:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_FCh6bq3X6Tg/SJAppGSDPDI/AAAAAAAAAGY/grAnSJxgccg/s400/TheCure_thecure_cover_album.jpg

this would look amazingly stupid on a guitar, I would not be able to stop laughing, the degree to which this idea delights me is frightening

up up up to heaven (DJP), Thursday, 24 October 2013 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

peavey makes some of their stuff in the us, but a lot less than they used to. xposts

ACA: not bad, needs more death panels (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 October 2013 18:06 (eleven years ago) link

the problem for fender/gibson/frankly all the big players is that they are huge companies obsessed with growing their market share. obv doing that is a goal for all functional companies, but the huge dudes have kind of run out of room to expand in their comfort zone, and their target customers tend to be of the never change anything variety. fender has proven time and time again that straying out of the iconic models is hopeless, no matter how good the result might be. so they have to go into things like this crazy comittment to relicing instruments, or car audio, or shitty affliction style shirts and so on because they are getting squeezed on all sides by alternate companies that can push the envelope of their brand while the old guard is stuck in stagnation. having outside industries with no experience with guitar culture (ugh) control your direction just makes that whole thing infinitely worse.

ACA: not bad, needs more death panels (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 October 2013 18:13 (eleven years ago) link

i had a customer who had an interesting take wrt all of this in recently - hes sort of a gear head, and he equated the difference between 20-30 years ago when if you were into performance cars, you were into ford or chevy, and that was it. now the same mindset is down with nissans and hondas and so on, and nobody bats an eye. so ford makes mustangs to hold onto the older dedicated (shrinking) crowd for the same reasons that fender makes strats and teles and hangs road worn aesthetics on them to enhance the legacy/authenticity deal. and when they do target a different demographic, the overshoot by a mile - that gibson explorer x thing and robot guitar, fender 7 strings and punk acoustics.

i could go on forever, i think a lot about this stuff but i dont want to get boring.

ACA: not bad, needs more death panels (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 October 2013 18:20 (eleven years ago) link

other problem i suppose is essentially competing with the 8 zillion vintage teles, strats, les pauls etc that are still out there, which are like cars that (as long as treated w/reasonable care) don't break down and in fact appreciate, not decline, in value as they get older

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 October 2013 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

i could go on forever, i think a lot about this stuff but i dont want to get boring.

― ACA: not bad, needs more death panels (jjjusten), Thursday, October 24, 2013 2:20 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

please, go on! i love your take on this stuff.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 October 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

The G&L facebook page is a great place to look at guitars.

how's life, Thursday, 24 October 2013 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

The Scorpions - Virgin Killer on a guitar, with actually cracks

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Thursday, 24 October 2013 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

*actual

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Thursday, 24 October 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/10355111/Texas+Flood+StevieRayVaughanTexasFlood.jpg

but infinite recursion style, so the strat on the cover is a SRV Texas Flood strat

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Thursday, 24 October 2013 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

lol

how's life, Thursday, 24 October 2013 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

i could go on forever, i think a lot about this stuff but i dont want to get boring.

― ACA: not bad, needs more death panels (jjjusten), Thursday, October 24, 2013 2:20 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

please, go on! i love your take on this stuff.

― call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 October 2013 18:34 (27 minutes ago) Permalink

seconded

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Thursday, 24 October 2013 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

thirded

not a lunch that is hot (snoball), Thursday, 24 October 2013 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

well ok then!

also the internet has been a huge leveler for these smaller guitar manufacturers and murderous as a result for the big players. 20 years ago if i handed someone a reverend or eastwood or G&L all they had to go on was some sort of trust that i wasn't going to sell them garbage (and wow did lots of guitar shops push high margin garbage back in those days). now dudes can look the shit up on their phone while they're standing in my store, and with a half decent web designer some 8 person builder can have the same gravitas as a mongo corporation. so fender gets squeezed on the low end by the jay tersers of the world, in the midrange by G&L import and reverend and so on, in the base level usa stuff by G&L american, and from the top by the bucketloads of high end boutique stuff like suhr and collins, many of whom are openly known to have been former fender custom shop builders. if i didnt think that the company was run by a bunch of incompetent profit maximizing dicks, i would feel bad for them. to top it off, fender/gibson/etc are all deeply leveraged and indebted, so i imagine the recession has put them in a tailspin of panic.

ACA: not bad, needs more death panels (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 October 2013 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

oh yeah and wrt the vintage price inflation etc, thats why we are seeing all this instant collectible stupidity (runs of 100, $35000 blackie clones and so on). The bloom is off the vine there too for people that know how the market works - the reason the old stuff is worth so much is because people modded it or dropped it or had it float away in a flood or burn in a fire. Most of the collectible shit now is never going to get played or leave the case, so 10 years down the road, the rarity hasn't changed, so in most cases the stuff doesn't even keep pace with inflation or declines in value. intentionally rare guitars are the last thing a collector will seek out, what they want it stuff that is old enough to have been depleted, or stuff that was an unintentional failure (hence the high value of odd custom colors etc). but even then, rarity has to work hand in hand with desirability. no one is paying top dollar for that awful fender Katana or Performer, which makes that new Starcaster reissue the laughing stock of the industry right now - they are rare because they were universally hated back in the 70's, and nobody was clamoring to get them back.

ACA: not bad, needs more death panels (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 October 2013 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

there's a starcaster reissue? omg i am v. glad i now share my bank accounts with another person.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 October 2013 19:38 (eleven years ago) link

Ok I take it back, "nobody" was apparently overstating the lack of demand

ACA: not bad, needs more death panels (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 October 2013 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

that last post is pretty much what I assumed, and reminds me VERY much of the mid-90s baseball card bubble

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Thursday, 24 October 2013 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks for those posts, jjjusten. Very interesting and informative. It brought to mind Rickenbacker, and how they've been able to flourish by avoiding all traps Fender and Gibson fell into. This is a pretty interesting interview with the owner: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/rickenbackers_john_hall_the_only_way_to_compete_against_that_is_using_various_forms_of_automation_and_working_smart.html

We don't have a bunch of people to satisfy but still we make a nice living. But we don't have all these people to satisfy and we have zero debt. There are no banks that are in line there. We're not publicly owned and we don't have outside share holders and counting organizations looking over our shoulders to squeeze another nickel out of something. Unfortunately those other big companies are looking at the pennies and the nickels and where can we get an extra little bit out of it? That's where the decision to go overseas was made.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 24 October 2013 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

someone told me that Martin Guitars is the oldest family run company in the U.S. (still apparently run by a Martin)

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 October 2013 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

Avedis Zildjian Co., Norwell, Mass. Founded in 1623 in what was known then as Constantinople. Moved to the USA in 1929.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 24 October 2013 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

The heir apparent of the 58 year old CEO of 182 year old Martin is only 9 years old.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 24 October 2013 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

That came out weird: Martin is 182 years old. CEO is 58 years old. Heir is 9 years old.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 24 October 2013 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

If they don't get moving soon on an OM-42 reissue with a USB input and built-in multi-tap delay, they're fucked.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 24 October 2013 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

To get up to speed on that, they should collaborate with Behringer...

not a lunch that is hot (snoball), Thursday, 24 October 2013 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

Martin "Walking Dread"-nought D-28

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 24 October 2013 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

i remember hearing some nutty things abt rickenbacker years ago but good for them i guess. i'm thrilled that their website hasn't changed since i last looked at it in probably 2004.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 October 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

Peavey's already got that covered, Albert

http://www.premierguitar.com/ext/resources/images/marketing/External-Contests/peavy-contest.jpg

how's life, Thursday, 24 October 2013 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

gross

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 October 2013 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

Rickenbacker is a pretty big collector guitar these days. There are just boodles of old dudes who love the Beatles and have a half dozen of them sitting around.

They are really beautiful and nice guitars, but man that skinny fretboard is really hard and weird to play on.

earlnash, Thursday, 24 October 2013 22:57 (eleven years ago) link

Are the fretboards considered skinny? I have a 330, and it's hella broader (and the neck fatter) than the one on my SG.

The frets themselves are really skinny, though. Not great for playing leads, but it's a fun challenge.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 24 October 2013 23:39 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe the 330 is different, my 360 feels like playing a banjo. I also got a weirdo 72 SG Special that's also got this weird narrow fretboard too an that thing is pretty much fretless. It sounds pretty good and its got a cool red paint job.

earlnash, Friday, 25 October 2013 04:23 (eleven years ago) link

No way, my SG is a 72 too! Neck is annoyingly narrow at the headstock, but I love the sound, and whoever had it before me put on a tremolo (just a bendy piece of curved metal, not the old Gibson spring-loaded thing). I think '71-'72 is when the necks got crazy narrow on those, because that's why/when Townshend stopped using SGs.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 25 October 2013 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

The one I got probably had a tremolo, but sometime it got swapped out for a wrap around bridge. It's got mini-humbuckers that have the Duncan logo on them and look pretty old themselves. It looks kind of like this one but with an ace cherry red finish.

http://dumb.org/wp-content/gallery/gibson-sg-pro/sg_pro-0.jpg

I've thought that with the small neck, it would be cool to set it up for open G ala Keith Richards and leave off the low E, except put the strings up starting at the top and leave the bottom one off.

earlnash, Friday, 25 October 2013 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

Wait, are you talking about the maestro tremolo? Because that could be original, I would have to check if they were still using those in 72

ACA: not bad, needs more death panels (jjjusten), Friday, 25 October 2013 23:57 (eleven years ago) link

I've thought that with the small neck, it would be cool to set it up for open G ala Keith Richards and leave off the low E, except put the strings up starting at the top and leave the bottom one off.

― earlnash, Friday, October 25, 2013 6:44 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh wow, that'd be a cool thing to try...I may give that a shot. Mine was/is an SG Custom, but the previous owner took the 3 PAFs out and put in two black humbuckers (dunno the make).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 26 October 2013 00:06 (eleven years ago) link

Yes, that's the tremolo! Although mine doesn't have that big metal cover.

Pretty sure the one on mine isn't original though, as there are a few extra drilled holes where (I assume) the original bridge used to be.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 26 October 2013 00:08 (eleven years ago) link

Send me some pictures when you get a chance and I can prob diagnose it. J0hnjust3n at gmail

ACA: not bad, needs more death panels (jjjusten), Saturday, 26 October 2013 00:47 (eleven years ago) link

i would have sex with all this SGs

#fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Saturday, 26 October 2013 02:01 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.rocknrollrelics.net/

Three Word Username, Saturday, 26 October 2013 07:02 (eleven years ago) link

Really disappointed in them for not going all the way and having the Townsend model have a broken of headstock.

ACA: not bad, needs more death panels (jjjusten), Saturday, 26 October 2013 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

Off

ACA: not bad, needs more death panels (jjjusten), Saturday, 26 October 2013 14:52 (eleven years ago) link

Dude you should take new guitars, smash them to bits, then sell them... Think about it.. The Ultimate Relic Series

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 26 October 2013 15:09 (eleven years ago) link

I have played a RnRRelics Jazz Bass. It was fantastic, actually.

Three Word Username, Sunday, 27 October 2013 15:21 (eleven years ago) link

we have an og starocaster at the studio now,it's bloody lovely!

Crackle Box, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

starcaster*

Crackle Box, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 22:55 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

wtf? why?

time is a train that make the future flag post (snoball), Saturday, 18 January 2014 20:19 (ten years ago) link

*vomits*

displayed in brackets (electricsound), Saturday, 18 January 2014 20:56 (ten years ago) link

oh, i guess these are not new. still sad though.

how's life, Saturday, 18 January 2014 21:01 (ten years ago) link

The guitar player from TSOL, Ron Emory, has a signature Fender acoustic for some reason

Ronnie James 乒乓 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 18 January 2014 21:22 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

And in worse news, Fender closed the USA ovation plant in Connecticut, which is a shame, and means 45 people just got the punk slip dropped on them without warning. Before you go "eh ovation who gives a shit" what no one is talking about is that this is the same and only factory used to make us production guilds. So it appears that Guild USA is also a thing of the past.

Corpsepaint Counterpaint (jjjusten), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 02:33 (ten years ago) link

Roback will have a wide scope of responsibility including overseeing the development of Fender’s emerging digital strategy aimed at deeply engaging musicians and music fans more broadly. Roback will also establish a new Los Angeles office in order to expand the company’s consumer marketing and digital capabilities.

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 02:34 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, the number one qualification in that article seems to be that he used to be a securities lawyer, so I'm guessing they are going to try to go public. Again.

Corpsepaint Counterpaint (jjjusten), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 02:42 (ten years ago) link

Well that and further implementation of their direct to consumer sales thing. Basically every store owner I know that still deals fender is going through waves of furious exploding head disease.

Corpsepaint Counterpaint (jjjusten), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 02:44 (ten years ago) link

lol I've never heard of any of this stuff.

Roback was most recently the CEO of Dashbox, a cloud-based workflow management system for music licensing, and Managing Director of The Media Farm, a media company focused on owning and managing an IP portfolio for multi-platform exploitation. Prior to Dashbox and The Media Farm, he founded LAUNCH Media, Inc. and served as its president.

LAUNCH transformed the consumer music discovery experience online, and Roback led the company through its initial public offering in 1999 and then its acquisition by Yahoo! in 2001. Following the sale, he served as vice president and general manager of Yahoo! Music, where he led the company's global music operations and built it into the Internet's most popular music destination.

how's life, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 10:03 (ten years ago) link

I interviewed at Launch (can't bear to type its silly capitals) in 1998. They had a big, empty office in Santa Monica and were in need of code monkeys to maintain their cumbersome content system - only they expected said monkeys to, ahem, *intern* for no pay, long hours, the usual.

Didn't take it. My dorky little sysadmin job was just fine and near a record store. Also, standard "fuck you pay me" rules are always in effect.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 10:26 (ten years ago) link

Never got a chance to ask Bob Roback if he was related to the Rain Parade/Mazzy Star Robacks.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 10:30 (ten years ago) link

Genuinely upset at loss of Guild plant.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 29 April 2014 10:33 (ten years ago) link

The tech industry is is a great place for "failing up"

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 April 2014 11:06 (ten years ago) link

and now fender has sold the iconic guild brand to esteemed famous legacy builder Cordoba

ohhhh lorde 2pac big please mansplain to this sucker (jjjusten), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 22:36 (ten years ago) link

who are known for classicals. and ukuleles. its a match made in heaven.

ohhhh lorde 2pac big please mansplain to this sucker (jjjusten), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 22:39 (ten years ago) link

the fender lols they just get sadder every time

ohhhh lorde 2pac big please mansplain to this sucker (jjjusten), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 22:47 (ten years ago) link

The fender lols
And the lightnin' strikes
Another love grows cold
On a sleepless night
As the storm blows on
Out of control
Deep in her heart
The fender lols

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 23:34 (ten years ago) link

lol Fender

DDD, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 09:27 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Bono doesn't play guitar, and Edge mostly plays Les Pauls, Explorers, and Rickenbackers. Good move.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 May 2014 18:35 (ten years ago) link

a vintage telecaster is my dream guitar (super boring I know), but will probably go G&L at this point

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 29 May 2014 18:50 (ten years ago) link

Hit me up for a quote if you feel like it

Everyone is awful except you. Wait, no, you are also awful. (jjjusten), Thursday, 29 May 2014 19:23 (ten years ago) link

Have to pay for a wedding first but will be looking in 2015. So I'll be sure to message for a quote then.

the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 29 May 2014 19:27 (ten years ago) link

Btw when I saw this edge/bono thing surface earlier today I thought it was a joke but yikes apparently not

Everyone is awful except you. Wait, no, you are also awful. (jjjusten), Thursday, 29 May 2014 20:00 (ten years ago) link

Bono doesn't play guitar, and Edge mostly plays Les Pauls, Explorers, and Rickenbackers. Good move.

TBF, I always liked the Stratocaster/AC30 sound Edge used on War/Under A Blood Red Sky

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 30 May 2014 00:14 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

uh, isn't that just a white P Bass?

just like Nietzsche but with jokes (snoball), Sunday, 14 December 2014 11:58 (ten years ago) link

Wait, my bad, a white P Bass with '1 2 3 4' engraved on the neck plate. I wonder what mark-up they're going to put on it?

just like Nietzsche but with jokes (snoball), Sunday, 14 December 2014 12:00 (ten years ago) link

1 - take a regular white P Bass
2 - pay $10 to get neck plate engraved at local strip mall engravers
3 - ???
4 - profit!

just like Nietzsche but with jokes (snoball), Sunday, 14 December 2014 12:12 (ten years ago) link

What next, a Paul Simonon P Bass with 'London Calling' engraved on the neck plate?

just like Nietzsche but with jokes (snoball), Sunday, 14 December 2014 12:14 (ten years ago) link

Noel Redding Jazz Bass?

just like Nietzsche but with jokes (snoball), Sunday, 14 December 2014 12:16 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

all the fine Standard features
players everywhere love
VOLUME/TONE/TONE
it almost rhymes

Kleine Jazzkunde von und mit Luomo (Assurance T. Rex), Friday, 17 April 2015 16:21 (nine years ago) link

yikes what hideous guitars, that artist should be arrested

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 20 April 2015 14:57 (nine years ago) link

They should make a green one with marijuana leaves airbrushed all over and just be done with it.

Hugh G. Wreckjoke (snoball), Monday, 20 April 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link

http://www.hrgiger.com/images/ibanez.jpg

earlnash, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 02:00 (nine years ago) link

I never see it brought up much but I think Fender and Gibson's biggest rival is used guitars. There has been just so freaking many guitars made in the last 25 years, I don't see why anyone really needs to buy a new one unless it is something kinda unique.

earlnash, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 02:03 (nine years ago) link

Eh fender and gibsons biggest rival is all the other smaller companies beating them at their game imo.

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 05:48 (nine years ago) link

A million starving geniuses in dusty ateliers all over the world are the rivals for players; new golf clubs are the rival for collectors.

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 07:51 (nine years ago) link

A million starving geniuses in dusty ateliers all over the world are the rivals for players; new golf clubs are the rival for collectors.

^^^^^ THIS

Pretty sure Fender Japan >> Fender everywhere else right now.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 18:47 (nine years ago) link

i just bought a 50th anniversary squier strat off of craigslist....pretty damn good little guitar from the mid 90s (apparently this particular squier is popular among modders because it used the full sized, dimensions standard strat body not the slightly slimmed down/lighter squier body type and is all alder)

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 15:09 (nine years ago) link

The first and to date only vintage Fender I've played that has ever really filled me with desire was an early 80s Japanese Squire Jazz Bass. What a fantastic instrument. They're still cheaper than a new Custom Shop Jazz.

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link

i've had a mexican mid-90s jazz bass for years and it's great....esp good because i did a affordable swap-out from the cheaper stock bridge to a leo quan badass bridge, which helps a lot and is super easy to do

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link

Fender Japan is no more, apparently

Black Arkestra, Monday, 27 April 2015 00:36 (nine years ago) link

Yep. The continuing saga of that company sucking more every passing day.

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Monday, 27 April 2015 06:42 (nine years ago) link

sigh...

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 27 April 2015 22:12 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

okay, fuck fender all the way, but am I wrong for liking this doublecut tele?

http://www.guitarplayer.com/Portals/0/tele-double-cut-620-80.jpg

how's life, Friday, 5 June 2015 15:58 (nine years ago) link

"But she has a new hat!!!"

Three Word Username, Friday, 5 June 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link

I dunno, without a built-in USB port, or NFL branding, it just doesn't seem true to the Fender aesthetic.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 5 June 2015 17:17 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

So I recently sold some gear, including 1 gently used Mexican Telecaster and an Epiphone 339 (I still like them fine, but I have many more guitars than I need).

It would seem that Fenders in general hold value remarkably well - paid three hundred something for it, and got two hundred something for it. The Epiphone, not so much.

Ye Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

FENDER IS MAKING AMPS OUT OF WHISKEY BARRELS

sleeve, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 15:38 (nine years ago) link

I think the correct title for that link would be FENDER IS MAKING $1,900 BLUES JUNIORS. Jesus wept.

how's life, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 15:40 (nine years ago) link

whiskey barrels aged in bigger whiskey barrels

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 15:48 (nine years ago) link

They actually almost look cool. If they cost normal blues jr price and didn't have the corny "aged" dial panel I would like them.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link

fender should make an amp out of Marc Maron's cats

the grimes of claire boucher ('90s on) (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 18:15 (nine years ago) link

They should just stuff all their bad ideas into one amp: a Cyber-Twin made out of the helicopter Stevie Ray Vaughan died in. With multi-tap delay.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 19:01 (nine years ago) link

That's gonna look bitching playing "Pride and Joy" Friday nights on the patio at Joe's Crab Shack.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 03:14 (nine years ago) link

Made entirely out of reclaimed crab traps...

how's life, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 10:21 (nine years ago) link

If somebody wants to spend $300 on a Tele-style guitar, where should she be looking, any notion?

mick signals, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 21:20 (nine years ago) link

For that price you can only get a brand new looking one made out of normal guitar materials, sorry.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 18 November 2015 21:23 (nine years ago) link

No problem, there's another $700 earmarked to have it professionally weathered by an aftermarket weatherer with a roofing torch.

mick signals, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 21:29 (nine years ago) link

I will always rep for G&L ASAT tribute model. They usually retail closer to 400, but you can find them used closer to 300.

how's life, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 21:30 (nine years ago) link

Closer to closer to

how's life, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

suggested caption: What are we doing? What are we doing?

how's life, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 18:16 (eight years ago) link

https://static.bax-shop.nl/image/product/222087/487580/744bbf9b/1447933825Fender_David_Lozeau_Bar_Stool_barkruk_Fender_Logo_zwart_24_inch_kunstleer.jpg

Really missed an opportunity to not give this thing a built-in bottle opener.

how's life, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 18:18 (eight years ago) link

lol @ jazzcaster

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 18:32 (eight years ago) link

I guess people have been doing jazzcaster builds for a while(this one looks nice), but coming from Fender it's just like "we have no new, good, or original ideas."

how's life, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 18:36 (eight years ago) link

There is also no rhyme or reason to their policy towards the 22nd fret on guitars or basses.

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 18:44 (eight years ago) link

I don't mind the offset Tele but I think it's because it reminds me of the Ibanez Talman I coveted as a teenager.

Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Good news NA, the Talman is back in production.

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 15:00 (eight years ago) link

they don't have the lipstick pickups anymore though :(

Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 20:10 (eight years ago) link

Well not yet. I'm pushing them hard on that.

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 21:51 (eight years ago) link

I won't be buying one unless they get Noodles from The Offspring to promote them again.

Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 22:28 (eight years ago) link

lol his signature Talman had a "wrapped duct tape finish which is unique for each guitar"

http://ibanez.wikia.com/wiki/NDM1

Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 22:30 (eight years ago) link

I sold several of those!

a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Thursday, 25 February 2016 04:15 (eight years ago) link

So, its the regular model but with sticktape stuck on?

Interesting. No, wait, the other thing: tedious. (Trayce), Thursday, 25 February 2016 04:49 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

How are the Mustang 90s? I've seen some pretty good reviews.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 1 June 2017 11:17 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://shop.fender.com/en-US/st-dupont-collection/

how's life, Monday, 26 June 2017 15:29 (seven years ago) link

http://www.fmicassets.com/Damroot/ZoomJpg/10001/9107000300_merch_frt_001_nr.jpg

Combining classic Fender Stratocaster-inspired style with the simple, timeless elegance of S.T. Dupont's Old-World craftsmanship, the limited-edition Line D rollerball pen is sure to delight and inspire. The curved harmonious form of the cap, combined with the smooth lines of the barrel, echo the sleek Stratocaster design where form follows function. It features a 3-Color Sunburst natural lacquer and gold finish, along with a guitar neck clip sporting the iconic Strat® headstock shape.

$1,072.00

how's life, Monday, 26 June 2017 15:31 (seven years ago) link

Those cuff links, though!

That stuff is just stupid.

Austin, Monday, 26 June 2017 16:46 (seven years ago) link

Thought this thread revival might have to do with this article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/lifestyle/the-slow-secret-death-of-the-electric-guitar/

And really I feel like it kind of does, or at least has something to do with it.

joygoat, Monday, 26 June 2017 17:38 (seven years ago) link

I spend a lot of time in high-end custom builder online world, and they're giggling about that article. "It's cos they suck! We're paying our rent these days. Try making good guitars, corporate weenies!"

Three Word Username, Saturday, 1 July 2017 10:01 (seven years ago) link

You know, there was recently an article on Pitchfork on how to set up your own on-the-cheap home recording studio and the bare essentials of what you will need to create and record your own music. There was maybe a single, very brief, passing mention of a guitar in the whole article and it kind of bummed me out. But, you know what? I eventually arrived at the thought that, anymore, (good quality) guitars are not in the price range of the DIY-minded. I would love to see a lot more beginning musicians gravitate naturally towards picking up a guitar instead of a synthesizer, but most guitar builders at this point have dug their own graves.

That, and the elitism that seems to run rampant in the whole scene anymore. Somebody linked an article over on ILM a while back where a guitar magazine had was lamenting the decline in popularity of the guitar with young musicians, but on the same cover of the same magazine was an article titled "Hack Pentatonic Shapes." So, I mean, yeah. Nobody wants to hang out with assholes that act like that.

Austin, Saturday, 1 July 2017 16:57 (seven years ago) link

Huh. You can still get a good Mexican Fender for not that much, I thought.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 July 2017 17:12 (seven years ago) link

My Mexican Telecaster was $800.

Austin, Saturday, 1 July 2017 17:37 (seven years ago) link

Hell, I recently got a Made in Indonesia Squier Jaguar and it was $400.

Austin, Saturday, 1 July 2017 17:39 (seven years ago) link

Wow. My Mexican Tele was $400, and I spent the saved cash on new pick-ups.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 July 2017 17:49 (seven years ago) link

that WaPo piece is sad but I can't really bring myself to GAF about guys like Gruhn, or the industry in general. pretty much the same as I'll feel whenever people stop being all into collectable sneakers imho. NB: I do not own a guitar.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 1 July 2017 18:18 (seven years ago) link

That WaPo article is one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

jjjusten, Saturday, 1 July 2017 19:34 (seven years ago) link

Three terrible companies are failing, must mean no one is buying electric guitars. Kind of like how no one goes on hikes as proven by REI failing.

jjjusten, Saturday, 1 July 2017 19:35 (seven years ago) link

There were always be good guitars available under $500, and the best of them won't be new.

Three Word Username, Saturday, 1 July 2017 20:35 (seven years ago) link

Very true - these days the best deals are the Japanese solidbodies from the 70s and 80s. Greco, Tokai, Ibanez, Yamaha, JooDee, Orville, Burny et al. - all made killer instruments to immaculate standards and eventually ended up manufacturing for Fender and Gibson anyway. I bought my 1977 Greco Strat (sorry, Super Sounds) for $250 and it kills any other I have tried - and was only their midrange model.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7291/16450649541_c44d6e4f28_o.jpg
L-R Greco 1976; Greco 1977; Squier Japan 1983; Ibanez 1984; Fender Japan 1985 - these all came from the same Fuji-gen Gakki factory.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Saturday, 1 July 2017 21:53 (seven years ago) link

jjj do you still have that red early 80s Yamaha I took a shine to last time I was in town? I'm gonna be back in August and if you still have it I wanna buy it (we're riding the train back to NYC this time so it's a chance for me to bring unwieldy stuff home muhaha)

or at night (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 1 July 2017 23:42 (seven years ago) link

I don't, but as always, I've got plenty of fun. Stop in when you're in town!

jjjusten, Monday, 3 July 2017 02:48 (seven years ago) link

fender is one those brands where you just know it's quality, every time!

Karl Malone, Monday, 3 July 2017 03:08 (seven years ago) link

Xpost I will!!!

or at night (Jon not Jon), Monday, 3 July 2017 14:49 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

perfect if you want a guitar that you can be sure thousands of asses have sat upon

na (NA), Monday, 17 July 2017 21:08 (seven years ago) link

think I spilled some orzo salad on that seat

Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 17 July 2017 21:09 (seven years ago) link

massively corroded bridge vs pristine neck is partic upsetting to me

bitumen: the animated series (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 17 July 2017 21:17 (seven years ago) link

just imagining someone leaving it out in a rain storm

Neanderthal, Monday, 17 July 2017 21:18 (seven years ago) link

Yep, that's dumb.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Monday, 17 July 2017 21:50 (seven years ago) link

Fender get in on the 'slap your logo on a Bluetooth speaker' business that Marshall have been doing lately.
https://www.fender.com/pages/audio-bluetooth-speakers/
£300 and £190 respectively.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 17:26 (seven years ago) link

They screwed up, if it had looked like a Princeton Reverb I would have loved it. Instead it looks like a cheap intercom with the wrong era logo on the wrong era cloth.
(oh shit did I just out myself as a Fender nerd?)

attention vampire (MatthewK), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 04:01 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

do not want

for sale: clown shoes, never worn (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 21:23 (seven years ago) link

what the hell is that fretboard made from

for sale: clown shoes, never worn (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 21:24 (seven years ago) link

ewww

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 21:38 (seven years ago) link

Uhhhhh, "white" and "supreme" together?

https://i.imgflip.com/18ikl3.jpg

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 22:03 (seven years ago) link

hitlercaster

for sale: clown shoes, never worn (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 22:04 (seven years ago) link

at taco bell, supreme = sour cream. so this suits the taco bell of guitar luthiers.

Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 23:46 (seven years ago) link


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