In the pubic interest

This has been done. But...

I am male and I shave my balls, but I don't shave *everything*. An in-between option is quite common, actually. Trim, shave your shaft, create a nice line like you would with a beard, but for chrissakes don't take it all off. This seems to me a missing option.

http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/134557-1/Dogguntub.jpg

Ok, so she shaved her out-of-control bush, it took on a terrifying life of its own, and now she keeps a gun around to kill it if it threatens her child?

bwahahaha

classic kenan <3

I am female and I trim and shape

I think one of my earliest posts was about the horrific bikini waxing experience that left me scared for life.

well scarred but scared too tbh

ah yes

I want to be ok with bikini waxing, I really do. I've only had one experience with it though and I think it has left me scarred for life. I am not sure what I was expecting but it certainly didn't involve winding up on my hands and knees, holding my cheeks apart while a small Brazillian woman got closer to my bits than any gynaecologist ever has. Did I mention that the room had mirrors on all the walls? The whole situation resembled something out of a medical fetish porno. *shudders* That said, the results were fantastic. Until I get over that particular waxing experience, I'm sticking with shaving/trimming.

still not over it

Thinking of being "scarred for life" in that area... :|

yeah was not literally scarred

the annoying thing about waxing (esp full brazilian) is that you never know what 'method' any particular place uses before you go in. i've heard horror stories like yours from friends, but the one place i used to go to in nz was fantastic - nice room, soft lighting, towels in appropriate places so you didn't feel totally naked, and a not-embarrassing method of waxing certain places. and no wall-to-wall mirrors.

Yeah the mirrors were definitely the worst part.

oh, the other thing to make sure of before booking is how ~fast~ they do it, e.g. some places do tiny little areas so that the wax takes like an hour to do, and is more painful, while other places do large areas so it's all over in about 10mins.

ok huge delayed lol @ whiney's pic

do people have any reasons other than aesthetics/visuals for doing this? I remain a little weirded out by how over the course of my life the practice of shaving the pubes has gone from something pretty rare to something that's if not expected then at least not even a little surprising.

Oh it's totally weird. I was shocked to find out how many of my friends are always completely bare. I'm pretty sure I've talked about how/why I find that whole trend disturbing on other threads.

i trim, have ever since i was a teenager -- shaved once and hated it, will never do it again

OK I'll come out and admit that I find it a little weird that some straight guys would shave and or wax. It seems less strange for a gay man to do either but I'd have some serious questions about a straight guy who was that into grooming his pubes. Maybe that's stupid of me but I can't help it.

lol at hall of mirrors gina waxing

let it grow, most prob could trim but get worried about putting anything sharp down there w/ my hereditory shakes.

To clarify, I guess I mean a more dude type straight guy. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that, say, The Situation is a waxer but I do have some serious questions about those types in general.

I'm not generally weirded out by body hair but I know that for a lot of people it's a thing. The only time I can remember being truly weirded out by it, was upon seeing the mother of some kids I used to babysit for wearing a bathing suit. Her bush came out that suit in full force and spread - no lie - halfway down her inner thighs. It was truly out of control and she didn't seem to give a shit. I wasn't sure whether I should be horrified or impressed by the size of her figurative balls.

maybe some people hate bearded privates as much as bearded faces

I once dated a guy, and on our first date he took me to see American Pie 3 at the dollar theater (I had not seen the first two). There was some stuff about how now that main curly-haired guy is hitched, he better start trimming his pubes & all, a running theme through the movie. After the movie, my date asked my opinion on the whole issue: do guys need to trim their pubes? This is not the kind of conversation to initiate on the first date, is the take home here.

"Hey, you haven't seen my genital region, but do you think I should alter it?"

xp to Kenan's first...

SHAVE YOUR SHAFT?????

Yeah was wondering that too but didn't really know if I wanted to hear the explanation. I've never been with a dude and thought, "Damn that's some hairy balls/shaft." Seems unnecessary imo.

"Damn that's some hairy balls-slash-shaft"

you know how sometimes you see some graffiti on a bathroom wall somewhere that's just the right combination of seemingly tossed-off and willfully malicious about trying to burrow its little obscene wording into your brain that it never, ever leaves you? even if you only saw it once? well, that was me and the all-caps "I <3 SHAVED COCK" graffiti I saw at some points in my life

my equivalent of that would be the wisdom etched onto the underside of a classmate's shelf at school -

"I WILL MASTURBATE
IN THE GALLERY OF YOUR BUTTOCKS"

at cambridge isn't that just called a freshmen mixer?

lollllllllllllllllllllllllllll

dying @ Jordan

my dear fellow

this is boarding school we're talking about

SHAVE YOUR SHAFT?????

It's not that crazy, you guys. Just the most proximal 1/4 inch or so. My habit of doing this goes back to the days (oh, the olden days, those halcyon days) when I wore condoms, and unrolling them could sometimes cause the kind of yank that you do not want on your penis. Specifically, you'd yank hair out of the base of your cock every time you unrolled a condom. Since then, I've incorporated the shaving of that region into my overall regimen.

Also, there's a good bit of shaft that grows hair. Some of those little curlies are downright tenacious. They'll end up an inch or more from the base of what one would call "dick," especially on the underside. There's this whole penis/scrotum grey area going on there that normal ball hair doesn't understand the boundaries of. You gotta show it who's boss.

Mostly now it's just a vanity thing, though. Evan if I had five-inch wiry hairs sprouting from halfway up my dick, I don't think that would stop her from fucking me. But maybe she would, I have no idea. I'm sure it would bother her if that were sprouting out of my chin or ears or nose or whatnot.

when you say "shave" is that a euphemism or are you literally putting a razor on the shaft of your cock

No, you're right. "Shave" is a euphemism for the nanobots that live in my underwear that destroy the hair while I sleep.

Razors are not that tricky, guys. You put one on your face every morning, right?

Frankly, I have a lot more trouble with the region right beneath my nose than I do with any part of my dick.

what about your taint

how much trouble do you have with that

I don't think I'm especially hairy there anyway. But maybe I should go get a mirror.

I remain a little weirded out by how over the course of my life the practice of shaving the pubes has gone from something pretty rare to something that's if not expected then at least not even a little surprising.

In Finland at least this happened in an even shorter time: I've noticed the same change during the 13 years I've been sexually active. These days it's not uncommon to come across a fully shaved porcelain pussy even on hippie or feminist girls, who you wouldn't expect to shave it. The only proper explanation I can think of is that porn and porn imagery has become more mainstream, and obviously shaved pussies are very common in porn. Personally I much prefer hairy vaginas, I've always found fully shaved ones a bit weird. It's not like I'm gonna run away from a shaved pussy, but I think they have a sort of a preteen vibe which makes them a bit awkward. Also, if the hair has been allowed to grow a bit after the last shave, the resulting pussy stubble can give you the same sort of red face that you get from kissing a man with a stubble.

kudos

officer, fully shaved porcelain pussy is the name of my dog!

Oops, sorry - in Finnish "porcelain" is a slang term for a completely shaved pussy, but I guess it doesn't make much sense in English.

haah okay I'm gonna check all my porcelain mugs to see if they've started growing hairs

in Finnish "porcelain" is a slang term for a completely shaved pussy

And a damn fine one, at that.

so basically you were saying "a fully shaved completely shaved pussy"?

btw I think I deserve kudos for not immediately GISing "porcelain pussy"

ok can we change the name of this board to I Always Think I Love TMI But Then I Just End Up Convulsing With Grief

I Love Convulsions is the best compromise.

"grief" is the weirdest slang term for orgasm I've encountered so far

la petite mort ;_;

bahahaha thanks thread

http://www.hippy.com/php/roots/celebratethesun1926.jpg

OK I'll come out and admit that I find it a little weird that some straight guys would shave and or wax

it's a hygiene thing, not a vanity thing, tbh. thicket isn't the easiest thing to keep clean and fresh

okay I just properly read Kenan's first post and now I am visualizing this:

http://www.hji.co.uk/hjimages/images/qhs1657/hji/medium/1987-men-lines.jpg

... only in pubic hair.

little-known fact stateside, that guy was the singer from Hairhouse, whose Kajagoogoo-inspired single "...Only In Public Hair" reached #3 on the Finnish singles chart IIRC

interestingly enough "public hair" and "pubic hair" are synonyms in Finnish

FYI this is what happens when Kenan shaves his face

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4114/4776230807_f231f65d4a.jpg

xpost to hi dere - that's not an "l," it's a hair on your screen

Baby, let me touch you there
In your public hair
Let me feel it if you dare
In your public hair
Baby, you should be aware
That I just don't care
Come on baby, don't be scared
Let me touch your public hair

total jam IMO

"It's a gender-reversed film noir spoof, in which a hard-boiled female detective tries to locate the eponymous ceramic feline"

ok you totally invented that movie, got an imdb pro account, and made up the whole page just for lols.

That kenan blood face picture is going to haunt my nightmares...

holy lol

There's something Harry Potter-ish about it though.

Or maybe that's what happens when you try and shave using a webcam instead of a mirror...

90% of webcam shots of men are shirtless. why?

so you can dig those guys' breasts, duh

porcelain pecs

(weak drum loop, tinkling piano)
in my dreams i'm shaving all my pubes

i'm trying to catalog all the changes i've noticed during the 13 years tuomas has been sexually active...

hahahahahahahahaha

FYI this is what happens when Kenan shaves his face

I did that about an hour after posting, "Razors are not that tricky." Instant karma's gonna get you.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Wait back up to the shaving shaft bit again: am I missing something here or is there a suggestion of hair on the actual penis? Because um, ... what?

on the lower quarter-to-a-third of a hirsute man's prick, are found a few stray hairs. it happens.

full disclosure, mine's like a beefeater's hat the whole way up

ha

ok can we change the name of this board to I Always Think I Love TMI But Then I Just End Up Convulsing With Grief

http://www.top-hats.com/images/Military/Beefeater-Thumb.gif

i guess i don't know which english stupid looking traditional soldier i'm thinking of, eh?

I like that as a board description. (xp)

oh cmon guys you can't have tmi on tmi

Yeah, if you can't handle talk on pubic hair, don't read ILTMI. It's always kinda sad to see threads like this which start with a decent discussion, and then fall back into "Omigod, a penis!" jokes. Less jokes and more proper talk, please.

This tendency for women to shave off or wax all their pubic hair is kind of interesting. Not so long ago a man interested in that would have been deemed a bit creepy - I wonder when it started - about ten years ago? I don't think it's explanatory enough simply to say that it's due to porn going mainstream, because women in porn didn't shave until - I don't know, I'm no expert, but the late nineties or so? Certainly Madonna in her Sex book in the early nineties is not shaven. Why did porn suddenly not like female pubic hair?

I'm not an expert on the subject either, but I think it has to do something with porn becoming more extreme, wanting to "show it all" in extreme closeups, etc. And obviously it's easier to show it all if there's no pubic hair. In the old porn movies I've seen, there's much less of "spreading the pussy" type of closeup shots. I think I've read some article on porn history that said this "extreme" trend began around the 80s and early 90s. And Madonna is not a good example because she's not a porn actress, therefore she probably followed mainstream trends and not porn trends when it comes to shaving.

I'm not saying that porn explains it all, certainly there could have been trends that effected shaving both in porn and mainstream society, but I do think shaved vaginas became prevalent in porn several years before it happened more widely in Western societies, and the mainstreaming of porn is probably at least a partial explanation to this wider phenomenon.

omg, a penis

oh shit a bare behind

tuomas all otm

especially when he said this which I will now c&p for posterity

It's not like I'm gonna run away from a shaved pussy

http://llamabutchers.mu.nu/archives/python%20run%20away.jpg

not sure why some ppl think it's 'creepy' for a woman to shave her vag - the 'ew it's so pre-pubescent' is pretty bullshit, since it's widely acceptable (and mostly preferable) for women to shave their armpits and legs. in my experience guys like shaved vag for the same reasons: it's cleaner, fresher, feels nicer, is better for oral sex and is more visually stimulating.

According to Wikipedia, the Brazilian became popular/widely-known amongst "the average person" in the late 80s, which jibes with my memories of people making Brazilian wax jokes in high school.

Wikipedia also has a handy visual guide to different wax jobs; it is probably for the best that guys don't do this as all of them would look silly next to a penis (esp. the landing strip; no one wants a dick with fuzzy racing stripes).

it's cleaner, fresher, feels nicer, is better for oral sex and is more visually stimulating.

this is all kinda crazy subjective stuff here - I mean - if people enjoy shaving their parts, hey, more power to 'em, but "cleaner"? a shower's a shower; "feels nicer" - mileage varies obv; "better for oral sex" & "more visually stimulating" - you'll find plenty of people of both genders who'll disagree on both counts. but I don't think it's creepy for a woman to shave it! just for dudes to think there's something gross about woman parts that have hair on them - a dude for whom the vagina in its natural state seems a thing in need of grooming/improvement, is a dude creeps me out a little, is all

this is all kinda crazy subjective stuff here - I mean - if people enjoy shaving their faces, hey, more power to 'em, but "cleaner"? a shower's a shower; "feels nicer" - mileage varies obv; "better for oral sex" & "more visually stimulating" - you'll find plenty of people of both genders who'll disagree on both counts. but I don't think it's creepy for a man to shave their faces! just for chicks to think there's something gross about man's face to have hair on them - a chick for whom the face in its natural state seems a thing in need of grooming/improvement, is a chick creeps me out a little, is all

gahhhhhhhhhhhhh i said IN MY EXPERIENCE

WHICH DENOTES SUBJECTIVISM

sorry steve didn't mean to make you feel bad about your distaste for hairy vadge

xpost yeah people who have sexual preferences different than mine completely creep me out, is all

you must mean bearded ladies?!?!

also not many girls i know shower more than once or twice a day; certainly not after every time they pee (sure, you 'wipe' but there's all that bush there!!) or whatever else they may have going on down there, so yeah IT IS CLEANER IN MY EXPERIENCE.

in other news I'm creeped out by any guy who'd say a woman needs to have her breasts enlarged - oh no, I'm trampling on people's sexual preferences

(jus1n3 like I say for a person who's doing something for themselves whatever all power! I am just skeeved by dudes who think there's something gross about a grown woman with pubic hair)

idk pubic hair is kinda gross??????

Someone should do another poll. Is public hair gross y/n?

in my experience it totally depends on the woman, some gals have outta control thistle and need to take advantage of some hedge trimmers and some others don't have to worry as much. I don't think there's any absolute here. I, in my personal quest for the cup, would rather a clean shot from the fringe rather than hacking through the weeds. all imho fuiud.

xp to aerosmith - ok you win this round, congratulations on standing up for women everywhere by letting them know that you're creeped out by any guy who would want them to make any modification whatsoever to the natural state of their bodies. they are all very appreciative.

lamp otm

ytth I don't care what the women think so long as the guys know I think they're weirdos

huge surgical change /= to trimming down/waxing off a few pubes

i am creeped out by guys who *shudder* prefer their women to shave their armpits.

what is wrong with a thick bushes sprouting out from the pits of lithesome young beauties.

jk, aerosmithy, it's cool if you have a fetish for the big bush! be proud of it just don't judge if anyone dares to think differently! ;-D

this reminds me of the time i was at a strip club and so bored i was reading a sylvia plath book i had stashed in my "book-sack."

Not grossed out by pubes at all btw. Then again I'm not hairy at all (like anywhere except my head) and guess I've never really been anyone who has been ott hirsute. Maybe I would feel differently if I had. I mean this, for instance, is sorta out of control: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Woman_with_hirsutism.jpg/230px-Woman_with_hirsutism.jpg.

also to counter tuomas' blame porn thing i think the increased expectation for both sexes to keep things ~manageable~ is a result of it being more conventional/normal for dudes to go down on women, maybe? like it just seems like common courtesy to keep things trimmed, if you want oral sex

Guys I don't think JD is saying he minds trimming, shaving, what have you but that he thinks it's a little strange when guys INSIST on a woman being completely bare. I mean, I've taken it all off at someone's request before but he wasn't insistent on it. I have, however, met guys who think that any hair at all is completely gross and I have to say that I do agree that that is at least a little odd.

xxpost

when will amy winehouse catch a break?

enbb otm

ytth 14 years old

with a nice dose of "what I learned about men & women from watching The Man Show" I guess

i don't think he's saying that either, nor do i insist on a woman being anything, but i also think he's being kind of obnoxious about trumpeting his stance.

I was less obnoxious before you starting talking like a dickhead iirc

yes, i'm 14.

also - i'm pretty sure i'm POSTING FROM MY PARENTS BASEMENT IN A SUPERMAN T-SHIRT BECAUSE I'M AN INTERNET TROLL LOSER.

glad we cleared that up

any other classic-internet-argument-cliches you want to heap on before we lay this to rest?

the argument didn't start off with 'guys who INSIST on this' just the idea of shaving or waxing in general, which is why i got so damn annoyed

a know a little jpeg that i haven't pulled out in a while that i would love to post had it not got me SB'd last time

http://djdocrok.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/oh-snap.jpg?

WHO SHAVES A CLIT

question for the naturalists: why is it okay to shave the underarms bare but *heavens* not the pubis!?!

I don't think anyone said it's not OK to shave it bare!

yeah sorry just1n3 I think our signals crossed - like I was saying, I don't think anything anybody does to themselves for their own gratification is really creepy until you get way out onto the margins of, like, severe body mod - but I do think people having a sort of "it's a dealbreaker" stance toward non-modified body bits is really bizarre, is all I meant to be saying - you said:

not sure why some ppl think it's 'creepy' for a woman to shave her vag - the 'ew it's so pre-pubescent' is pretty bullshit, since it's widely acceptable (and mostly preferable) for women to shave their armpits and legs.

about which I want to be clear: I think it's creepy when dudes are like "oh, it's gotta be shaved" - as if there were something really super-ick about hair where it naturally grows. that stance skeeves me senseless - a preference for one's partner to modify him/herself as a prerequisite to desirability, yeah, ugh to me!

question for the naturalists: why is it okay to shave the underarms bare but *heavens* not the pubis!?!

nobody said it's not ok for anybody to do anything, this is the misconception you have

nobody said it's not ok for anybody to do anything, this is the misconception you have

well, you sorta keep bringing up this mythical nobody as well, right? The one who calls dealbreaker but doesn't post to this thread.

is that guy really mythical? as noted above, pornography's sort of become a place where the default state is "shaved" - to the point where "hairy" is considered a fetish - I don't think you'd have to wander too far afield to find plenty of guys opining that pubic hair is an undesirable quantity, or that not being bothered by it = having a thing for it, which is a pretty bizarre consequence imo

Obv these people exist and are not mythical, but the same is true for Shasta's "why is it okay to shave the underarms bare but *heavens* not the pubis!?!" people. Both of you have your particular grouse that you're trying to flush out of the bush, fnarr fnarr, on this thread.

people who cut their fingernails are so gross, let your fingers be free man, especially people who insist on their partners to cut their nails

it's true, pubic hair grown too long can draw blood

cd picture of kenan above

lol

don't really get the cxn b/w shaving and blowies but then i'm not really munching carpet or anything

only matters in the case of hairy shafts. can't tell what is making me laugh more, that or the idea of literally shaving your vagina

I've nothing against someone shaving their pubic hair if they want to, but I find it problematic if a shaved pussy becomes such a standard that women feel they have to shave to fit in - and I think that might be where this current trend is leading to. It's already happened with arm and armpit and leg hair: most women I know think it's kinda "weird" if a woman doesn't shave those parts. If this was a subjective choice I'd have no problem with it, but a hairless body has become such a beaty standard it's hardly just a matter of personal choice. I don't think it should be anyone's responsibility as a woman to shave any part of their body.

As for a shaved pussy being "cleaner, fresher, feels nicer, is better for oral sex and is more visually stimulating", personally I don't feel that way at all. Even if you haven't shaved it, it stays fresh and clean enough if you just wash it regularly. And it doesn't really feel nicer to me, I like stroking a bit of hair. And like I mentioned above, if there's any stubble there, it's not better for oral sex; a hairy pussy is actually a better cushion for your face. As for visual stimulation, I don't find the inside of a vagina a particularly aesthetic sight (the porn movie style of "showing it all" is just too straightforward), and the shaved outside certainly has kind of a pre-pubescent look, which I don't think is particularly stimulating. A hairy pussy, on the other hand, retains its mystery and exhumes an aura of maturity, which to me is much more stimulating.

a hairy pussy is actually a better cushion for your face.

you know how some hotels offer you a choice of pillow? Well I sense an untapped market

Hi Dere, you asked for this

http://www.gizmodiva.com/entry_images/1009/20/Vagina_Pillow.jpg

That is not comfortable at all, where is the hair?

stuffed inside the pillow

it's kind of a role reversal sort of scene

wow

i love this board

Pubic hair stuffed into a vagina takes us right back to shaft shaving

i just want to know whether the button on the pillow is functional or just decorative.

A hairy pussy, on the other hand, retains its mystery and exhumes an aura of maturity

So a hairy pussy is like a nice Bordeaux, then...

exudes or exhumes? It has been over a decade since I was goth, but the phrase "exhumes an aura of maturity" just calls to mind the smell of rotting corpses. Not v sexy.

h8 these personal presumptions abt "sexy"

exhumes an area of morbidity

sorry T. - i shouldn't judge people that find the aura of rotting corpses sexy.

<3

It's OK to shag dead animals, says judge

though "tbrr" if someone cut up a rotting corpse and stuffed it into a pillow decorated like a shaved vagina with a function button that they'd undo and then bury their face in the rotting corpse while masturbating -- i'd think they were a very sick individual.

Sorry, I meant to says "exudes", not "exhumes".

LOOK YOU STUPID PRUDE CUNTS SOME OF US ARE OF SEMI-MEDITERRANEAN STOCK AND HAVE A LIGHT COATING OF HAIR AROUND THE BASE OF THE PENIS NOW I HAVE FUCKED 16 WOMEN AND NOT ONE HAS EVEN NOTICED LET ALONE COMMENTED UPON THIS FACT BECAUSE IT REALLY ISN'T A DEAL NOW KINDLY STOP BEING ALL 'EW' AND ALL 'OHH' ON I LOVE FREAKING TOO MUCH INFORMATION THERE ARE PLENTY THINGS MORE DISTURBING THAN A FEW FOLLICLES ON ONE'S PECKER SUCH AS ANYONE WHO THINKS THERE IS ONE WAY OF DEALING WITH PUBIC HAIR

Yeah I think having a few shaft hairs is totally normal.

I also don't like shaving them at the risk of the tiny hairs that are inevitably present growing back darker and longer.

i trash this board a lot but what a great thread, tons of everything i come to TMI for, kenan being weird, j0hn being self-righteous, ppl being unreasonably butthurt because someone suggested their sexual preferences are gross/creepy, and, of course, louis actively engaging in that special activity that the board purports to love

for the record i shave my pussy

max being sardonic in that winning way of his, also failing to tell us about his operation

http://www.spoiledchins.net/hairring.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2cHkMwzOiM

And as regards the "its cleaner cos hey hair when you wee" thing - plenty of unncut guys only shower once a day is all I'm sayin, y'get me.

/late2thepartyasusual.

plenty of unncut guys only shower once a day is all I'm sayin, y'get me.

OH BE QUIET

<3 louis gone all-caps...lj unleashed

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

in all that palaver I forgot to vote - consider that 27 to the botanists

Max OTM

no clippers here

Admit it, you rip 'em out 20 at a time to keep yourself in the proper mood for dealing with humanity.

i pluck out grey pubes, where does that fit in

geezerscaping

No matter the hair, the idea that shaving makes it grow back thicker is 100% myth. But don't take it from me.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hair-removal/an00638

can't tell what is making me laugh more, that or the idea of literally shaving your vagina

harbl OTM...the Vagina Monologue™ c/o a woman who was irritated that her husband didn't like her "hairy vagina," I was with the husband – if it was indeed her vagina that was full of hair, that sounds like a nightmare on so many levels (mostly keeping clean).

Oh btw "shaft hair trivia" that is also "Beastie Boys trivia": the artist for the cover of License to Ill said the plane was meant to be a dick, and the smoldering mushed up part was like the hair at the base (I read it in a book so it must be true)

http://www.aaroncampbell.org/images/cd%20art/beastie_boys_licensed_to_ill_back.jpg

I know saying "hairy vagina" is wrong, but is there a proper word in English to describe the whole female genital area? "Pussy" feels a bit too rude in a discussion like this.

gonna go with 'pubis', 'quim' or 'elfin grot'

it's ok tuomas i wasn't laughint *at* you, i knew what you meant

NOW I HAVE FUCKED 16 WOMEN AND NOT ONE HAS EVEN NOTICED

was going to ask "did you poll them afterwards" but the quote probably stands best on its own

I know something else that "stands best on its own", har har.

I know saying "hairy vagina" is wrong, but is there a proper word in English to describe the whole female genital area? "Pussy" feels a bit too rude in a discussion like this.

― Tuomas, Monday, July 12, 2010 11:26 AM

I actually think vagina is the best word to use here.

I am now hearing "hairy vagina" being chanted in my head to the cadence of the Dead Milkmen's "Bitchin' Camaro"

I see my one-person campaign to get people to not use "vagina" as a catch-all term (where "vulva" or something else would be more accurate) may be a fruitless effort. I blame my usual scapegoat, "Kindergarten Cop."

"Olympus Mons" was taken. ;_;

I am female with a full 70s bush 4

OH HAI LAYDEES

I was reading that like a Prince song title & thought, 'a full 70s bush 4...who? or what?'

probably greedy eva as usual.

i hope she chokes on it.

Wtf was bush like before the 70's?

Bush was bush, I'm sure. But there's quite a lot of documented film evidence from the 1970s.

http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu92/damien_stone/muffdivert-shirt_2_108762_royal-blu.jpg

I can't belive we've gotten this far without anyone posting or linking the Demi Moore bush pic.

which one: George HW, George W, Barbara?

xp I have no idea what you're talking about. link plz.

OK warning you tough - it's quite . . . something:

http://www.hatersbehatin.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/demi-bush.jpg

http://www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com/pictures/20080626/demi%20moore%20nude%20naked/big_demi%20moore%20nude%20naked%20pictures%204.html

http://www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com/pictures/20080626/demi%20moore%20nude%20naked/demi%20moore%20nude%20naked%20pictures%205.html

wau

dang

FYI this is what happens when Kenan shaves his face

I regret having missed out on this thread on account of reconfiguring my SNA preferences to be more work-friendly. But I just have to say that this post and the accompanying picture is the closest I've ever come to irl spitting my beverage onto my computer, such was my barely-controllable laughter.

Demi's bush.

I think I saw Ashton's trucker hat in the innner sanctum of that there rainforest.

shoot man, Demi's bush

I bet she used to hide a pair of condoms in her bush so that if the moment came she'd be all ready to go

makes me 14 years old but demi's bush makes me think of

http://pbfcomics.com/archive_b/PBF051-Zarflax.jpg

demi's ass-bush worth a mention all of its own imo

I can't find a word for my feelings about Demi's bush. They are somewhere between admiration, and some Freudian type thing about accidentally seeing your mom's bush, and bafflement.

my first reaction was to puke.

puke wads of pubes.

from hereon in the verb for that is 'to kutcher'

Honestly, I'd like to run my hands through that bush, but not get my face or dick near it.

i would not touch that with gloves on.

I don't like being the one guy that shaves "everything" — "everything" in this context meaning pubic hair. I don't shave my eyebrows.

would be a dope urban outfitters chia-chia pet idea for holiday post-hipster gifting

i'm pretty sure i would be in the lead for body hair removal, as far as dudes go. i trim my pits (the hair there is unusually long) and my chest hair - pluck out the middle-brow hairs and shoulder hairs and trim like a mo-fo down there.

jesus xpost!

I dunno, y'all. I'm kinda into Demi's bush.

corey, don't worry, i shave my legs and the reason for which is very complicated but can be best boiled down to "cycling tradition"... yet i stop around mid-thigh. the shaving is nowhere near as bizarre as my tanlines though. sometimes i look positively neopolitan when in the nude.

that's tmi for iltmi. xp

getting out of demi's bush would be the main area of concern, really

morelike getting off in demi's bush

http://ezcaddie.com/picts/caddie12.gif

"Five iron, swing through the ball"

recently found the stash of Dad's old Playboys - Bush City - but then Hef was never about the punani but providing 'Entertainment for Men'

i read it for the hinterpubes

man i really hate when ppl i like all get butthurt at one another :(

people who would actually not have sex with demi moore because she has tons of hair on her "vagina" are nuts, frankly

^

we're talking physically unable, look at that snaffle

Max OTM, again

look guys, I would frankly have sex with all this &c yet there appears to be a muskrat sleeping peacefully on her lap.

steven shasta we know what your opinion is about this

she should dread those locks, dudes

Shasta is FOR muskrat fucking?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKw8j7GLSdw

Where does the bodygroom and other manscaping-style electric trimmers fit into this?

I hate (whatever) to admit it but some coworkers and I all independently bought those a few years back when there was some sale. It kind of tied into the mustache contest we had going, but not really. One dude used it to shave a superman logo into his chest hair. I still can't explain that one, but it happened. I think there's some sort of unspoken acknowledgement that they do well for pubic hair trimming. You know, just keep things down to a manageable level, take off some of those shaft hairs that kenan is so worked up about.

man i really hate when ppl i like all get butthurt at one another :(

― makes da cool chewbaccas in pain sounds STAR WARS (arby's), Monday, July 12, 2010 11:07 PM (Yesterday) [IP: 209.240.89.238] Bookmark

Well is seems that pubic hair, or a lack thereof, is very serious business.

holy lol, there is nothing demi about that bush

there was a thread on manscaping on noize board about 4-5 years ago. search cutty's quest on knowing where to stop shaving from legs up.

so much grey to pluck ;_;

hey there, my once annual serious post on ILTMI:

1. i dont trim, if peeps dont dig it whatever and too bad.

2. dudes who get all eyaaaagggghhh GRODY about ladies w/whatever amount of pubic hair (i mean yeah circus sideshow level fine whatever, get weird) they have are missing out on the basic aspect of boning which is uh BONING DUDES WTF STOP STARING AT IT AND DO THE DO DUMMY.

I have no problem with Demi Moore's bush, TBH I find some of the reactions to it rather extreme. I don't think people would've said such things 30-40 years ago.

I strongly support that method (or non-method, as it were) of pubic grooming return to the forefront. I mean, everyone's body is their own, so whatever. But bush is sexy.

Aesthetically. I have no problems whatsoever with the Demi bush. Or even beyond Demi. I'm cool with hairy legs, pits -- anything short of a mustache, really. (I actually have a thing for a belly-button trail.) I mean, we should all be too old for a Slip N' Slide by now, right?

THAT SAID: going down on a full bush can be trickier than going down on a trimmed one. I have encountered bush that made me wish I had a pocket comb handy. And with bush, you're going to get hair in your mouth and on your tongue and etc, no arguing about that. Whether a girl wants to go for hairless or buzzed or a #2 guard or whatever is all awesome by me, but a bush that has been completely untrimmed is a bush that is more difficult to get full contact on whilst orally stimulating it. And manually stimulating it, now that I think of it.

I guess what I'm saying is, if there's so much hair that it takes me longer to find your clit than it does for me to think of something else I forgot to do earlier that day, maybe trim a bit. That's all I'm saying.

I hope I'm not reinforcing the patriarchy too much there.

I dunno, if you can locate the vadge, in my experience it's not hard to locate the clit by feel. And few women are so hairy that you can't find the vadge.

You're right. Maybe it's the hair-in-the-mouth thing that I most object to.

(Somebody post that Curb Your Enthusiasm clip. I can't find it.)

(The clip, I mean.)

I've no problem with a couple of hair in my mouth. In fact it's kinda nostalgic to find one stuck between your teeth the next day while sitting at a lecture.

...

We'll just call you "gladiator".

(Old joke. Likely doesn't translate well.)

Gladiator of sex or a literal gladiator?

poll.

Ok the joke is, What do you call a Roman with pubic hair in his teeth? Gladiator. (Glad he ate her.)

I didn't say it was a good joke.

"Oh boy! Sleep!"

No it's, "Oh boy! Cunnilingus!".

no it's 'Ohnnff Ffoof! FUNFNFUINFLFF!

it's kinda nostalgic to find one stuck between your teeth the next day while sitting at a lecture.

with permission, I'm going to use this line to start my next novel

You have my blessing.

I would be tempted to start my first novel with the words, "Ohnnff Ffoof! FUNFNFUINFLFF!" but even if it were the greatest work of genius of the coming century, no editor would read past that.

that's what they said about raymond mabbutt

in my head this thread is part 8,455,182 of this thread:

Men who trim their pubic hair: insecure or thoughtful?

tbh the notion that most young women these days shave all their pubes off is new to me - trim, wax, landing strip OK but 100% "porcelain" as the norm? i don't buy it

i do. i've dated alot of younger girls, and ... hmmm ya... getting distracted...

so basically there is no way to combine "mommy hole/funny hole" and "hard wood floors" and end up with a funny joke, at least not in 7 minutes which is likely way more time than that endeavor deserved

i've dated alot of younger girls, and ...

From what I understand, this is otm. There's an age line that's somewhere in the mid 20's by now.

have encountered once in the wild, and yeah, that sounds otm to me too

I know a guy, bit of a player, who was quite thrilled recently when he beeded some lady with full bush since most of the younger ladies he's been with have been fully shaved.

beeded lady

beeded clam lady

Damn . . . this thread!

It got weird.

Demi's bush reflects our darker natures.

As usual, I am not helping.

How did it get weird? We've been pretty much talking about the thread subject.

generally speaking, polite society finds extended pubic hair conversations to be weird

ILPS

Pubic hair extensions?!

I guess it just reflects my personal views on the subject but there are a couple seriously O_O and sort of creepy posts since I posted the Demi pic and not in the usual creepy way. I don't know. It's probably just me and I should, as one of the mods, probably just leave it at that.

Aw man, now I feel bad. I said it was probably just me. I didn't mean to kill thread. ;_;

yeah, women should treat their threads with respect

he's be here all night folks

dammit - HE WILL

(louis sign online pls - q for you)

I see my one-person campaign to get people to not use "vagina" as a catch-all term (where "vulva" or something else would be more accurate) may be a fruitless effort.

Abbott, I fully support your campaign!

I'm down with that, too, but I think you're going to have an uphill battle replacing "vagina" with "vulva". The word "pussy" definitely refers to what needs to be referred to, but I get that that's too crude and/or erotic for use on all occasions. Point is, we need another word. Something not as inaccurate as "vagina", but not as baseline dirty as "pussy".

We can do this, people.

Female Pudenda

The "female" part is redundant in context, no? Or nearly so?

Also, I think that literally translates to "shame". I don't know what the connotation is in Spanish, but it sounds at once insulting and Victorian. "Cover your shame!"

cnut?

the boehner

Vulva not really appropriate in this context either though since we're talking about more than just the vulva, right Abs?

the vulabgina?

"pussy" is an erotic word?

ladybits

the vulva death grip

the she-place

The Hot Zone

ew, no

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hot_Zone

I don't think we necessarily need a single catch all term for the female genitals. After all, there isn't one for the male genitals. Usually we refer to penis/scrotum/testicles/etc. separately as needed.

or a fave from grade school: front butt

FRONT BUTT! That's very English of you. Must have come from your mom.

I stick with cooter and/or cooch

the she-place

have never heard of "front butt" b4 tbh

It's a personal fav. Also great when B Kingsley says it in Sexy Beast.

Actually I think he says "front bottom" but it's along the same lines.

milo is close. i prefer "snootch" myself.

I am perfectly -ok- with just referring to all the individual parts as they are, ie 'mons pubis' etc. The problem is, like, if we are talking about Demi's bush, that hair is covering 4 or 5 parts there. IMO nasty gossip about a celebrity's epic pubic hair is an appropriate place to say "pussy" or "bush," rather than, "man, look at that forest of hair covering her mons pubis, labia majora, perenium, and and anal region."

OTOH, what if you are trying to teach your little toddler daughter about her body parts? Maybe then you'd say 'vulva,' which would be more accurate than 'vagina.'

I am with Erica, too – it was kind of weird reading people like "I would rater slice my own penis like a spiral ham than get anywhere near pubic hair like that." Though ppl are free to their own creepy opinions.

just for the record, I would NOT rather slice my own penis like a spiral ham than get anywhere near pubic hair like that; I was mostly laughing at how someone named Demi had decidedly full pubic hair

so i'm creepy and my cock is a spiral ham then. super.

xpost!

sorry about your cock

No, I was being weird, too, it's just, humans!

my cock is a spiral ham

pretty sure this was an early iteration of "Your Body is a Wonderland"

If I pulled down a woman's pants and Scary Movie up there popped out, I would probably be a bit stunned.

shit gets itchy - esp in this heat. i honestly have no idea how one could walk around like that.

lol - i'm picturing milo randomly pulling down people's pants!

Abbott I totally agree with you on all those points. Here I could care less what ppl call it but I do think it's important that kids know the correct terminology. You are also correct in identifying the EXTREME AVERSION/REPULSION that some ppl expressed as what I found to be a little on the creepier side.

If I pulled down a woman's pants and Scary Movie up there popped out, I would probably be a bit stunned.

― a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Tuesday, July 13, 2010 3:04 PM (2 minutes ago) [IP: 24.27.92.131] Bookmark

I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone who wouldn't be stunned tbh.

my cock is a spiral ham

pretty sure this was an early iteration of "Your Body is a Wonderland"

― Fee Fie Fo, FUNFNFUINFLFF! (HI DERE), Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:00 PM (6 minutes ago)

... which is now lodged in my head for the rest of the afternoon.

also Demi pic made me remember this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RdqB3YnYNM

to be fair the second google result for "demi moore " is:

demi moore bush

followed by

demi moore big bush

and don't give me that "I'm with ENBB" cacadoodle, she was the one who introduced that thicket to this thread. ppl quit charading that is "normal", that shit is about as normal as phil spector's wig.

shasta out

thank you.

I wonder if, the first time they slept together, Ashton was all "WOW! I GOT PUNK'D!" and that's why their relationship worked

oh well, at least we know what happened to all of Bruce Willis's hair

http://www.kansascitysteaks.com/_FileLibrary/ProductGroup/784/spiralHam08_lrg.jpg

ten inches, cut

ts: fucking a spiral ham vs. fucking phil spector's wig

xpost lolololololol

tbh a spiral ham kind of looks like a duck's penis.

Dudes nobody said that Demi's bush wasn't extreme. I said I found some reactions creepy and Abbott agreed. You want to know specifically what I found creepy? It wasn't even you SS, jeez.

my first reaction was to puke.

― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, July 12, 2010 9:51 PM (Yesterday) [IP: 99.233.40.80] Bookmark

i would not touch that with gloves on.

― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, July 12, 2010 9:58 PM (Yesterday) [IP: 99.233.40.80] Bookmark

and perhaps more spectacularly although it probably reads differently than intended:

i do. i've dated alot of younger girls, and ... hmmm ya... getting distracted...

― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:44 AM (3 hours ago) [IP: 99.233.40.80] Bookmark

Thermo is obv one of those people for whom hair is an issue and, in the end, that's cool but I'm still going to wonder what the root of that is and think that it's a bit of a hang-up of some sort.

I think Thermo's hang-up is that he never thought he'd need to spell "snatch" without an 'n' and with an 'asqu'

okay I'll stop now

what the fuck are you getting at?

xpost

way to take that last one way out of the context btw

people people

why are you getting so rugburned over this

x-post -

Uh? Nothing other than what I stated there. You obv have some sort of aversion to hair and I find that sort of strange. I have an aversion to John Lithgow and most ppl find that strange. It happens.

I said that it was probably intended differently but it still came off as a little creepy. Just being honest.

all i ask is that while "we" are wondering about the root of the shorn pubis hair issues are, can we also explore the female underarm, the female upper lip and eyebrows, the man's lower face, married hasidic women's head or even Ned Raggett's sidewalls? Human hair has been modified since the dawn of time, regardless of whether "we" think it's trending one way or another.

best term for a lady's undercarriage is clearly escutcheon

seriously - i thought this was all in good fun. up until abt 5 minutes ago.

http://4gifs.com/gallery/d/134557-1/Dogguntub.jpg

I WONDER WHY WE WOULD WONDER ABOUT THE HAIR OVER THESE PARTS IN PARTICULAR

IS THERE SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY DIFFERENT ABOUT THE VAGNIA-TYPE AREA THAN UNDERARMS LIPS CHEEKS HEAD

TRYING TO WRACK MY BRAIN

CANT REALLY COME UP WITH ANYTHING

perhaps your aversion to Lithgow is due to his balding?

erm xpost

That poor borzoi.

wait hasidic women shave their heads???

HEY JEWS

^ Yes! They wear wigs!!

waht

RTOFLMATOLAO @ MAAXASZZZ HAHAR BRO HIGH 65ssss1!!! I LIEK U FUNNA

lol max

Thermo - maybe it is.

I'm sorry that I singled you out and maybe "creepy" wasn't the best term. I just thought your reactions were a little extreme. Enough so that I was taken aback which very rarely happens around these parts.

I mean at least Shasta admitted that he would fuck her. ;)

ya - i was mostly joking around (aside when i was talking about my own grooming habits). a mistake i will not make around you again.

that came out alot more dickish than i intended there.

also: lol @ "around these parts"

ENBB, stop playing possum! you know damn well why you posted that glorious muff in the first place.

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=13

wait hasidic women shave their heads???

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Pqi7roI7b5A/SyyVCrbOqPI/AAAAAAAAAP4/dchraVddjI4/s400/Jewish+Pussy.jpg

dude

omg

the thread that keeps on trimming

btw why do we say 'trim', as in 'getting some [trim]'

ts getting some trim vs getting some strange

i have never heard that expression.

strange, yes i have heard.

which one

i have never heard 'strange'

Listen Shasta - I posted it because its massive and impressive and also extremely interesting to note the difference in ladybits grooming habits over the course of the last couple decades. Of course I expected people to react but there is a difference between "wow that's a hairy pussy" and "puke".

I am certain Demi got asked for some "strange" rather than some "trim"

fwiw i have always thought 'getting some trim' sorta magically skirted the boundary between 'totally classless' and 'crass, but basically just funny and harmless'

I have heard "trim" in the sense that gbx means. I think it's pretty old school and I have no idea where it originated.

Whenever I start to even entertain thoughts of ever dating or having sex with another person ever again, reading ILTMI cures me of that in about 30 seconds flat.

I know it's a fine line between "making jokes" and "being actually really quite creepy" but there's a lot of discussion on this thread that definitely steps over that line.

yeah for some reason the word conjures up images of camaros and zeppelin as much as it does lady parts

I think I get the same vibe off or the word "trim" that gbx does. Something about it is both 70's-ish and not terrifically sophisticated. Like a vulgarity someone in a Raymond Carver story would use.

But on balance, there are a LOT worse slang terms for the ladyparts.

I've heard "strange", but only on Deadwood. It seems anachronistic in a show whose dialogue is deliberately anachronistic to begin with.

Whenever I start to even entertain thoughts of ever dating or having sex with another person ever again, reading ILTMI cures me of that in about 30 seconds flat.

I know it's a fine line between "making jokes" and "being actually really quite creepy" but there's a lot of discussion on this thread that definitely steps over that line.

― also vaguely creeped out, Tuesday, July 13, 2010 3:43 PM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark

also vaguely masonic

xp This is another thread, though, for real.

Pubic hair. Deep breaths, focus.

i just think it's funny that straight guys are complaining about getting hair in their mouths from going down on a woman, when it's pretty much par for course that one will get hair in your mouth when giving a guy a blow job.

Does that make me... under par?

yes kenan, you're a birdie, or an eagle - or something - i don't know enough about golf

Apparently you do.

Also, I think that literally translates to "shame". I don't know what the connotation is in Spanish, but it sounds at once insulting and Victorian. "Cover your shame!"

600 posts late and I think I mentioned this elsewhere on ILX once, but pudenda is a neat little Latin construction called the "gerundive of obligation" - if you see a word ending andum/endum/anda/enda you're probably dealing with one of these. So:

agenda - the things which have to be done
addendum - thing which should be added
memoranda - things which should be remembered
QED = (quod erat) demonstrandum - (which was) the thing we had to demonstrate
pudenda - the bits you should be ashamed of

So yes, pretty Victorian. (Though I think it predates them.)

Kind of O_O at Demi provoking so much amazement (maybe we are still meant to be ashamed after all), but uh my limited memories of school showers made the jpegs not seem like such a big deal

or a fave from grade school: front butt

― be told and get high on coconut (gbx), Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:54 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

FRONT BUTT! That's very English of you. Must have come from your mom.

― o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB)

Sorry, you can't use front butt to refer to vagina and its friends, because "front butt" is what you use to refer to

http://i30.tinypic.com/34g0za1.jpg

(the original filename for that was drunkinbaltimore.jpg btw)

that is not a "front butt," that is a "butt in the front"

slight but significant difference

Google Image Search "front butt" and you'll see.

(see you on the other side..)

you will not capture me that easily

^^ you're talking about a Harvard Grad, ZS - you need to try harder!

no seriously, there's no vagina there at all! it's just people with...front butts!

front butt vs. gunt

fupa

what is fupa?

Fat Upper Pubic Area

Acronym for "Fat Upper Pubic Area"; common misinterpretations include "Fat Upper Pussy Area," "Fat Upper Penile Area" and "Farting Under Pelicans Asses."

last derail, sorry:

front butt 258 up, 29 down
buy front butt mugs, tshirts and magnets
(noun) An enormous, fatty enlargment of the abdomen, genital, and thigh region that morphs together to create the appearance of a bulbous ass on a persons front. Male sufferers of front butt syndrome often have dickdo disease, while female sufferers can be known to have a condition called a gunt.
I saw a woman with a bad case of front butt, it looked as though she had stuffed a pillow down the front of her pants.

If it's on urbandicationary.com it's gotta be true

wondering if anyone has actually ordered a front butt tshirt

"fat upper pussy area" is not a misinterpretation!

sorry, omg

http://i32.tinypic.com/30uvajq.jpg

that mug is only $17.95 if I order in bulk, so...

the mug is a cop-out - ya gotta go for the t-shirt!

600 posts late and I think I mentioned this elsewhere on ILX once, but pudenda is a neat little Latin construction called the "gerundive of obligation" - if you see a word ending andum/endum/anda/enda you're probably dealing with one of these. So:

agenda - the things which have to be done
addendum - thing which should be added
memoranda - things which should be remembered
QED = (quod erat) demonstrandum - (which was) the thing we had to demonstrate
pudenda - the bits you should be ashamed of

So yes, pretty Victorian. (Though I think it predates them.)

Kind of O_O at Demi provoking so much amazement (maybe we are still meant to be ashamed after all), but uh my limited memories of school showers made the jpegs not seem like such a big deal

― atoms breaking heart (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, July 13, 2010 5:22 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is interesting ty

yeah ditto

u guys talkin bout gunts?

ya, i thought "gunt" was the agreed upon nomenclature.

ugh. really can't bring myself to say that word. my friend steve claimed to have coined it in middle school, and it's just so fukkin crass to me! i mean go ahead and use it, not judgin, but something about it is like why don't you just say 'fat bitch' instead and get it over with

(not saying that that is how yall use it, btw, just sort of a personal hang up, largely couched in how ickily misogynist some of my HS bros were)

If the choice is going to be between "vagina" and "gunt", you'll forgive me for choosing "vagina".

And really, ixnay on the atfay, all around.

what? i understand the pig latin, i just don't know what you mean by that.

I mean what gbx said. "Like why don't you just say 'fat bitch' instead and get it over with." Enough with that shit.

Optimally, the word that will replace "vagina" will not be disgusting or even vaguely sexist. "Front butt" and "gunt" are vaguely sexist, IMO.

Call me cap'n save-a-snatch.

errrr front bottom in the way I think GBX meant it can be used for both guys and girls and isn't even remotely sexist. I've never heard of it the way ZS was using it. Not for a second saying that it should be used as a replacement word for vagina which I don't think is necessary in this context anyway.

ha well tbh the way that i meant it (in grade school) was that a vagina is just a butt on the front. totally, completely sexist. but i was seven so i don't really care.

Z_S actually meant it in the non-sexist (but uh 'fattist') way which just applies to either sex

oh weird - my b then. I've heard it used by both boys and girls so *shrugs*.

Z_S actually meant it in the non-sexist (but uh 'fattist') way which just applies to either sex

haha I guess this is otm, and sorry to be fattist, my original intent was just to point out that "front butt" is not a good term for vagina.

^worst post of all time^

I can't believe you hate fat people so much.

nah don't sweat it zs! I wasn't callin u out. just clarifying

So man, Demi's bush

*ducks*

I thought "front butt" was what moms used when they didn't want to explain the vadge.

So man, Demi's bush

http://www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com/pictures/20080626/demi%20moore%20nude%20naked/demi%20moore%20nude%20naked%20pictures%206.jpg

I don't shave all the way now and probably never will again because if I didn't maintain it every day it would get seriously uncomfortably prickly, plus like, where do you stop - your thighs, your chest? It was too confusing. But anyway I did for a while with a woman who did too and the sex felt really, really nice. I'd recommend trying it.

yay latin lessons! would just like to say I already knew that tho - and may I add gerundives can also be used to signify purpose ;)

i am only flattering you so that i can get inside gerundives

lawwwwwwl

shit can I go back in time 4 years and use that line on pretty much any female classics student ever plz

why not now

you are a man of the world~~~

positive thinking summer '10 - go for it, that's my name!

'man of the world' is the awesomest euphemism for 'unemployed' ever btw :D

currently my job title iirc

So man, Demi's bush

― 1967 Dragnet episode (Z S), Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:01 PM (58 minutes ago)

You know, you are the animated gifmeister. Whatchoo waitin' on?

earlier this afternoon i actually tried c&ping the poor borzoi's eyes and snout onto demi's bush, but since i only have mspaint (and not photoshop) it looked like total shit and i abandoned it

someone with The Skills really oughta delight us proper

I have Demi and the Afghan hound in the bathtub on my desktop, thinking the obvious thoughts about them. But I'm not that wired tonight, and meh, you can see where that's going.

do I have to

i have the photoshop gift - but i don't know what "borzoi's eyes" is.

the dog upthread is a borzoi

you people are sick.

lol j/k

I have Demi and the Afghan hound in the bathtub on my desktop, thinking the obvious thoughts about them

In a thread full of ominous sentences, this is the one most easily taken out of context.

True, one man's obvious thoughts are another man's... something else.

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx177/tupac-chopra/youpeopleshouldlikethis.jpg

xpost- you're more right than you know

lock ILX

here you go, del:

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx177/tupac-chopra/notashorrible-1.jpg

That poor dog.

i just might keep doing these until i get banned.

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx177/tupac-chopra/whoeverthisguyis.jpg

:D

http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/talktoher07.jpg

nice work, thermo! and you were right to leave the disembodied baby hand on the rifle trigger.

just stoppin by TMI to say that Demi Moore's giant bush rules

Demi Moore's giant bush rules the UNIVERSE (starring Andy Richter)

a huge ever growing pulsating vadge that rules from the centre of the undergrowth

^^ save it for your epic novel!

LOL Louis!

haha. Gotta love a 90's IDM joke.

Orb was not IDM!

Hey can I just jump in with something kind of serious re the Demi bush thing for a moment. Ever notice how it - and other 70s-80s snatch shots - are hairy, so you DONT get a gynaecalogical faceful like you do in modern stuff? It left an element of mystery, if you will. Kind of like a veil.

Um... well. Something like that. OK, I had a point, and I lost it somewhere in the forest.

Oh look there's my coat.

Yeah, that was exactly the point I was trying to make above, when I said that the inside of a vadge isn't a particularly aesthetic sight, and that pubic hair keeps it a sweet mystery.

Oh look there's my coat.

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

(sincerely, sorry)

Nah it was an obvous selfdiss :D

I don't think you understand the appalling depths to which my mind can sink

I don't get it... Is "coat" an euphemism for something?

OH GOD damn you LJ.

hey it's not like this thread could sink much lower!

picking it out of the plughole in the sink

yeah seriously do that shit in the bath next time

with guns and dogs

god bless america

the inside of a vadge isn't a particularly aesthetic sight

Sez you, buster.

I suppose depending on how far inside we're talking here. Far enough inside, and yeah, it's all pink and clinical. Have you seen the porn that's all about girls with a clear plastic speculum? Baffling how that's erotic.

dude no

bahahahahahahahahahahaha

ahahahaha

Dan, I did not make this porn. I only frantically searched for the close button.

The vadge's close button is "hey, did you put on weight?"

aaaaand scene.

ok you've pruded me out, good work

hey it's not like this thread could sink much lower!

― RIP la petite mort (acoleuthic)

LJ, when will you learn.

For the first time in my life I jused mused on how hirsute Wookie vadge would be. Please shoot me.

I bet a Wookiee is like a photo negative of a real person, i.e. hairy everywhere humans aren't, bare everywhere humans aren't.

Yeah, all the galaxy dreams of that sweet smooth wookie slice. Plus, they really bring the physical oomph to the act. And occasionally, they snap someone in half, so there's sexy danger as well.

I just shaved and here are the results

http://blog.rivast.com/wp-content/uploads/Eclectic_shorthand_by_cross.png

don't actually know what porn a 'clear plastic speculum' would make so w/e

You should be glad. It's ugly stuff.

what could be ugly about clear plastic speculum porn

oh right, the clear plastic speculum

Every year I end up spending a couple days reading the Adult DVD talk forums & it is pretty impressive how many occasions they have to employ the word "gape."

uh

Why the rowdy lust of "gape," friends? Why not "agape," the love of Christ for mankind?

"agape" is a little better as it looks like "agave" and makes me think of ladybits that secrete tequila

I am sorry but I have to judge you for this fetish, dan

there's a whole other thread for that!

agape just makes me think of o_O

tequila-secreting sounds

makes me think of ladybits that secrete tequila

this is an idea that is ready to be brought to the market but I am sorry to say that I may not cut you in to the final profits

I bet a Wookiee is like a photo negative of a real person, i.e. hairy everywhere humans aren't, bare everywhere humans aren't.

Real life lol at the thought of this

Every year I end up spending a couple days reading the Adult DVD talk forums & it is pretty impressive how many occasions they have to employ the word "gape."

loooooool

(xp) followed quickly by a real life ;_; at the thought of George Lucas retroactively inserting Chewbacca's bare junk into the original trilogy

A totally bald chewbacca with shaved junk, at that!

one of the formative events of my young internet career, I kid you not, was reading an early piece of star wars fan fic called "star whores"

that sounds relatively innocent.

there was uhm, han solo being frozen in carbonite - except for one part of his body - interspecies sex, robohuman sex, incest...

Incest on the scale of Luke + Leia, or Luke + Vader?

I have learned in life that you defs do not want to do a GIS for twi'lek, at least w/out safe search on.

Earliest Penthouse Forum I remember had a long story about fucking Dr. Crusher in the Sick Bay. Don't remember if the storyteller was human or alien.

(xp) followed quickly by a real life ;_; at the thought of George Lucas retroactively inserting Chewbacca's bare junk into the original trilogy

do you think "the original trilogy" is george lucas's name for his genitals?

left: The Empire Strikes Back
right: Return of the Jedi
front & center: A New Hope

i wonder does he go back and fiddle with them much in his attic

'c'mon george leave that shit alone'

'i....i can't, it's like some sort of compulsion.'

"fiddle" is an interesting choice of word

stick pad screw frog hair

these, i've just learned, are the parts of a fiddle bow. and if we can't do something with that, then iltmi is a failed experiment

I MEAN IT EVEN SAYS FROG FFS

http://jrscience.wcp.muohio.edu/Photos/InflatedFrog.jpeg

(actual picture of george lucas)

is that his front butt?

http://www.theweeklydonut.com/wp-content/donuts/2007/05/Thank_You_George_Lucas.jpg

wtf?

"Han shot first...but I'll shoot last."

Quelle surprise! Porcelain pussies get more cunnilingus:

http://www.bakadesuyo.com/do-women-who-remove-their-pubic-hair-have-bet?c=1

That's not necessarily a causation but a correlation. For example, I assume young women are more likely to shave their pubes than older women (since shaving it all hasn't been a trend for long), and young women probably receive more cunnilingus too due to changed mores of sexual behaviour.

Also, shaving your pussy probably correlates with caring more about sex, and therefore also being more likely to ask for cunnilingus.

thank u alfred finnsey.

Also, shaving your pussy probably correlates with caring more about sex

A bridge too far.

You know who cares more about sex? People who care more about sex.

Quelle surprise! Porcelain pussies get more cunnilingus:

That's not what it says! It says that they found a higher incidence of shaving it all off in women who reported having had cunnilingus performed on them within the last month. That's barely correlation, and a lot of miles away from causation.

On the contrary, it proves that saliva causes pubic hairloss.

Only in wookies.

ok at the beach last week i saw a 45-ish y.o. woman with the porcelain pussy.. it kind of didn't seem right (almost typed "didn't feel right") even though she was pretty smokin in general. she had a husband who was mr 50-y.o. beefcake, salt and pepper hair perfectly gelled, and at one point he "ran" down the beach with their two kids (though i got the feeling the kids weren't his). i say "ran" because it was like he was a robot mimicking a human running, like super-exaggerated and herky-jerky arm and leg movements, but you could tell he thought he was being kind of smooth and fun and debonair. it was like he never ran at all except in a cybernetic workout machine and this was his one attempt per year at trying it out in the wild. i wondered if his new wife's shaved pussy was a result of his subtle pressuring, like look honey i work on my pecs just for you, it's the least you can do...

what sort of beach were you at, tracer hand

three guesses

it was in france, so

the lovely Emma B said she saw two old ladies w no hair there but we sort of figured it was due to age-related hair loss :(

you know, like how old peoples' legs get really smooth?

ok at the beach last week i saw a 45-ish y.o. woman with the porcelain pussy..

I'm close to that age and I trim with the hair guard off.

it was like he never ran at all except in a cybernetic workout machine and this was his one attempt per year at trying it out in the wild.

aaaaahahahahaha

ok speaking of TMI... oh m g ..

http://www.professorshouse.com/family/health/why-pubic-hair-grey.aspx

^^^^^^^^interesting link, but still does not explain why my pubic hair has been turning gingery as I age.

In closing, just like the hairs on your head, the hairs down there can turn grey. It might take them longer than the ones on top but the ones down bellow can shine silver. Don’t believe me ask Grandpa. I am sorry that might have been crossing the line with that but I could not help myself.

hahaha

definitely seen some gray pubes in my day, tbh.

My high school boyfriend, way before I ever saw it, described his pubic hair as being a "gross rainbow," which gave me the weird idea that it was brindle.

thanking u Abbott

ok at the beach last week i saw a 45-ish y.o. woman with the porcelain pussy.. it kind of didn't seem right

I think the greying-pubic-hair question and the older-woman-who-shaves-it-all-off question may be very related. Easier than a dye job, amirite?

Why should be ashamed of grey pubes?

Because youth is an over-valued commodity, duh.

why should we be ashamed of grey hair in general? it's just out there, mayne.

See above.

Why should be ashamed of grey pubes?

in my country, grey pubes YOU

feel like the simple answer is not to walk around the beach w/ ur pussy hangin out

underrated areosmith albums I have loved, I did not notice your new display name until now! My mind is so blown that I typed your full name in awe!

so, i read an article yesterday about sasha gray's full frontal, unshaven appearance on entourage and the resulting twitter outrage over how "gross" it was... and i realized that despite my defense of guys who prefer it shaved, UAAIHL was right all along that that type of outrage *is* pretty ridiculous.

i was discussing this with a friend tonight and i am definitely anti-waxed/shaved vaginas.

I had this theory a few years ago that someone like Britney would wear low-rise jeans with unshaved pubic hair up over the waist. Maybe that'll still happen. "Treasure Trail" and like that.

It was actually a noticable and attractive part of the photos (NSFW) that she did for American Apparel a few years ago, that turned up as banner ads on some blogs.

(Sasha Grey, not Brit.)

wasn't there also a chan marshall pubez shot?

this is where I congratulate myself for constantly lurking and preparing animated gifs of famous people's pubes

http://i31.tinypic.com/skudm8.gif

LOL x-post

Yep.

LOL OK so I GISd "Chan Marshall pubes" and the image of the correct pic linked me back to ILX and this gem from ZS

http://i31.tinypic.com/skudm8.gif

actual pic:

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/180202/Cat+Power.jpg

sucks that she's got all that eye makeup on, she might even be kind of 'hot' ... i mean, you'd have to pretty much change the outfit entirely. the jeans are alright, but the shirt.. ugh. and ditch the cigarette and the bling.

*just waiting for someone to mention rodney dangerfield's pubes*

u picky ian

Rodney Dangerfield's pubitals were not plentiful enough. Some 'treasure trail'! I opened the XXX-marks-the-spot chest and it was just some leftover acrylic yarn scraps and damp mentholated cigarette butts. Naturally, my ability to respect this was severely compromised.

(Is this what you hoped for ZS?)

http://i36.tinypic.com/2q31wxt.jpg

he stashes the pubes in his mouth

*passes out*

u picky ian

― max, Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:29 AM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark

that is my 'thing'

don't judge a nook by its cover

I think Cat Pubic up there admitted she was pretty messed up at that point. Kind of evident in pic.

story on salon abt the sasha grey appearance & twitterstorm; comments on said salon story have taken another big chip outta my solid-porcelain will to live

don't these ppl realize this is Hollywood and those were stunt pubes

worst job I ever had fwiw

seems like it would be pretty cushy

so to speak

I probably shouldn't read those comments.

that sasha grey thing is so sad :(

Weirdly, Sasha Grey rose in my esteem after that. She gave an interview after she did 'The Girlfriend Experience' which I found exasperating.

have u guys heard sasha grey's new noise record?

hope it's called my life in the bush of goatse

*beavis laugh*

really depressed at this childish outrage over healthy natural bush

yah would be turned totes

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4100/4896643470_26d281fd4c.jpg

GUESS!!

I hope "vagina dentata" is back!

http://www.rainbowtheatre.com/images/Audrey_rental.jpg

"the touch that calms him during a fight"

i hope its the vulcan nerve pinch

va-jay-jay

:(

h8 'va-jay-jay'

I have a (possibly strange) affection for the word "muff". It's like it's a tea cozy.

nothing's more american than muff diving, as they say.

Yeah, it's just awful. Va-jay-jay, I mean. A girl I went to grad school used it all the time in class. Va-jay-jay. She flat out couldn't bring herself to say "vagina". Did I mention that we were studying WOMEN'S HEALTH??? It drove me nuts.

lady space

"is it better to take a polymerase sample from the dorsal or ventral area of the.. the uh.. the lady space?"

the area

That makes it sound like nuclear testing once went on there.

the ha-ha hole

"the touch that calms him during a fight"

article ran previous month & the month before it under the title "oral sex tips to drive him wild"

tommy james had a song about that (the penis tug) titled "dragging the line"

A girl I went to grad school used it all the time in class.

waht

oral sex tips to drive him wild : the touch that calms him during a fight :: i think we're alone now : mirage

Horseshoe - it was RIDICULOUS and just one of several reasons she was one of the most irritating people ever. Honestly totally surprised that nobody ever called her out on it. I would have but there were only 8 of us in the program and we took all of our courses together so I didn't really want to have to deal with the potential fallout. Seriously though - it drove me nuts.

your professor should have called her out on it! not in a mean way, but in a, i will deduct 5 points from your final grade each time you misname female anatomy way.

I know!

i went from thinking ENBB's professor should have said "you say that word again and i'll put my thumb hitchikin thing in your eye" to the unsettling image of men signalling their intention to hitchhike by waving their penises at passing traffic

i know, i need help

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/alfred_hitchcock.jpg

?

http://www.filmsquish.com/guts/files/images/hitchcock3.jpg

The Sasha Grey thing isn't that surprising, since lots of dudes have been conditioned through porn to find pubic hair on women abnormal. I remember encountering the same kinds of comments when those naked photos of Vanessa Hudgens surfaced a couple years ago.

tbh i didn't even realize that it was possible for women to grow hair in the va-jay-jay region until i saw s. grey on that program

the unsettling image of men signalling their intention to hitchhike by waving their penises at passing traffic

we cam be as apprehensive about future events as we care to be; regardless, they are coming down the pike. being a seer is a burden, though, i guess

There's a story (perhaps apocryphal) that the 19th-century critic John Ruskin, who was familiar with the female body mostly through classical sculpture and painting, was shocked on his wedding night to discover that his wife had pubic hair.

(Coincidentally! his wife's name was Effie Gray.)

oh yeah i remember hearing that

what a doofus

ws venus de milo

Re: Ruskin, his marriage was eventually annulled because they consumated it, perhaps due to pube repulsion.

http://i33.tinypic.com/hwzprr.gif

Uh, my post should obviously read "because they never consummated it"

perhaps due to pube repulsion

Yeah, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess it was misdiagnosed "sex with women" revulsion.

uh yeah he is often thought to have been a massive pedo also

Yeah, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess it was misdiagnosed "sex with women" revulsion.

That may be the truth. The love of his life was a (possibly) mentally deficient nine-year-old girl named Rose La Touche.

(I've got to start listening to those 'you=too slow' warnings someday.)

It's people like that that give ancillary shaving a bad name.

I don't think anyone has mentioned in this thread that pubic hair does have its uses.

1) It traps pheromones, or at least distinctive scents, that pre-humans relied on to size up each other's general health and sexual fitness, and possibly even sexual interest. Human noses have devolved to the point that compared to other animals' noses, the human nose is nearly a vestigial organ, but not entirely. We still respond to smells that we have no idea that we respond to.

2) It helps to prevent odors, as well. Just like underarm hair, it wicks away from the skin the moisture, oil, and protein that are secreted particularly heavily in these areas, and let them dry before bacteria can go to town on them. It's not much of an issue with underarm hair if you are slathering deodorant on your pits every day anyway, but I've never heard of anyone putting that stuff on their shaven genitals. It's still not much of an issue if your shower every day, but anyone who has taken all their pubic hair off and had a long hot day will attest to it creating an unusual amount of sliminess. By the same process, pubic hair keeps bacteria away from our most sensitive genital areas and helps to prevent infections.

3) It's a dry lubricant for the outer genitals during intercourse. Sure, it's not as much fun as oiled linoleum, but left alone it does serve that purpose.

Actually I did hear that putting deodorant/antiperspirant on freshly shorn pubic region prevents red bumps & ingrown hair.

my armpits smell worse when they get hairy, what gives

#2 only works for naked people.

yeah I find 2 to be opposite talk

I stopped shaving my armpits about six months ago, and I was amazed at how I barely need deodorant anymore. It's a dramatic difference. I had never gone without shaving for any length of time before, so I was really surprised, because I expected the inverse effect, if any.

opposite effect for me tbh

rollon goes on better if pit hairs less bushy ime. yes i clip my pit hairs what of it

#2 only works for naked people.

otm, probably. Or at least for people who don't shower very regularly. Cowboys probably make good use of their pubes.

#4: It protects the genitals from the sun. (This, too, also only applies to naked people.)

rollon goes on better if pit hairs less bushy ime.

Also otm, otherwise you risk what I think of as the "Mama Said Knock You Out effect".

don't think my genitals would be terribly protected from the sun tbh

People stand under your genitals for shade, amirite?

have we met?

People stand under your genitals for shade, amirite?