Breasts and the sucking, biting, licking and kissing thereof

Why does this make me feel like a creep? Is it an oedipal thing? What kind of mouth-to-titties contact is most desired by women, if any? Tell me about making love.

is this why you go for small-breasted women?

i don't even know anymore.

i wasn't trying to be facetious - i was wondering if that preference had to do with some anti-oedipal thing/feeling of creepiness.

but i think one of the main questions here is whether this is something that is a turn-on or turn-off for you? Is it something that you're asking as a means solely of pleasing a partner?

this was not inspired by any real life scenario; i should be so lucky.
i am turned on by women and their bodies.

basically i just want kenan to show up and lay out for me his breast-play routine.

well, you shouldn't feel like a creep for orally stimulating (or wanting to orally stimulate) a woman's boobs, unless it is something that a particular woman has said that she doesn't enjoy and that she finds creepy. So let's get the creepiness out of the equation, ok?

xp - well, if this thread is meant as an "Ask Kenan about what he does to women's boobs" then i'll stop posting.

I've seen some older (old enough to treat blowjobs as kinky) sex how-to stuff that does get a little antsy about suckling on a women's nipples.

idk I think the only time this gets weird is if it's an actual "adult nursing relationship," ie the woman is lactating & her partner is doing this just for the leche. "Weird" meaning something I know I would be uncomfortable with.

Other than that, there are too many variables! The nipples of men & women vary enormously in sensitivity. Could be a nuclear bomb or a dud, you never know, which is why generalities tend to be less useful for this kind of thing. A person w/sensitive nips might hate a lot of pressure, someone else might be crazy for it.

(tbh this is part of my philosophy where "it depends" is usually the right answer when talking about humans)

If it makes you feel any better, wikipedia asserts that "nipple and breast stimulation of women are a near-universal aspect of human sexuality."

^^^ I wrote that.
I also make fart joek on wikipedia.

I've seen some older (old enough to treat blowjobs as kinky) sex how-to stuff that does get a little antsy about suckling on a women's nipples

I misread that as "artsy."

well, you shouldn't feel like a creep for orally stimulating (or wanting to orally stimulate) a woman's boobs, unless it is something that a particular woman has said that she doesn't enjoy and that she finds creepy. So let's get the creepiness out of the equation, ok?

i think there's a kind of feedback loop, whereby if you're doing something and don't know if it's yielding some kind of positive response, it can feel like it's self-indulgent on your part, and can feel kind of - not creepy, but awkward. my solution to 99% of tmi problems is that people should use some kind of variably-volumed-breathiness to indicate 'high five!' or 'quit it' responses, but if that isn't forthcoming then it can be a little mystifying.

if you're doing something and don't know if it's yielding some kind of positive response, it can feel like it's self-indulgent on your part

yes

it can feel like it's self-indulgent on your part

Some more of that artsy sex?

kinda. like it feels performative rather than being an actual attempt to make the other person feel good. feels somehow very pronounced with this specific thing, i guess because there's a question mark over whether people are receptive or not.

like it feels performative rather than being an actual attempt to make the other person feel good.

yeah, this.

so basically--if you like it, do it a little; if the other person likes it, do it more.

Whatever the other person does, do it to them; whatever they do, they like. That's what I've always been told.

then you just get into a 'taking turns' scenario tho? gotta be room for some freestylin surely.

xp not sure abt that but hey it's a starting point

Ugh. See OK I'll admit it - boob play does absolutely nothing for me yet I have always been reluctant to admit that because a) guys seem really into it and b) it seems like something I'm supposed to be into but I find it so incredibly boring. idk. I guess a has always been more of a factor and since guys always seem to like it then I was more than happy to partake even though it did nothing for me. at all.

The first time I had sex (at the painfully late age of 22), the guy pretty much grabbed onto my breasts and didn't let go.

I get way too into this and it always makes me feel self-conscious, but I just... can't ... stop...

it's kind of obvious when the person you're with doesn't like nipple play

also ;_; that there are people who don't like (gentle, vanilla) nipple play

dan! thanks for the spoiler username!

doesn't air here until the evening :(

I am way too easily amused

JAYMC on Jeopardy! TODAY! (SPOILERS Y'ALL) (for reference)

yes i know - i've been avoiding clicking on it!!! thanks again! lol

or - i guess that was for everyone else's edification.

so... boobs.

hahahahaha

oh if only you'd clicked on that link, a lot of things would be clearer to you

no i refuse.

am going to excitedly watch it this evening despite your meddling.
unless your name is intentionally misleading.... damn you

so... boobs.

― now breathing manually (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall),

I'm 100% in favor of them.

on women

love those sandbags

Most recent long-term partner loved boob and nipple play, preferable to oral even. It was grand.

Isn't the 40 Year Old Virgin question a cheat? Boobs don't feel like anything but boobs IMO - I couldn't relate them to anything else.

sometimes they feel like a plastic bag filled with warm water

i have never had any boob time and its pretty obvious that they're not sandbaggy

Why does this make me feel like a creep?

You're surely better placed to answer that than any of us. I don't mean to belittle your 'issue' but I love playing with boobs and can't imagine feeling bad about that but then I love it when someone plays w/my nipples too...

I do like boob-play as well (especially nibbling/kissing) but I actively prefer small ones. WHY DID I LET MY EX GO

I mean, most boob experiences I've had since then have been with big boobs, which I just don't find sexy, and at worst find to be something of a hindrance.

a HINDRANCE??? to what? iirc you aren't supposed to put the entire thing in your mouth at once

Kinda fun if you squeeze them together and get both nipples in your mouth at once, though.

I have had very reliable feedback that says this actually isn't very fun

a hindrance to full-body proximity - they can be a bit like fenders - depends HOW big though to be fair - and it's very much personal taste

xp - curious to know what LJ defines as "big"

http://onlybestguitar.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/fender_62_jaguar_electric_guitar.jpg

^^^ not breasts, btw

fenders? what???!!!

xp - what milo is describing is fun - based on my thoroughly scientific survey of 1

I dunno, I get reminded that they aren't playdoh so maybe it's just my caveman pawing

After many years of trials and tribulations playing with different shapes and kinds of boobs, I have decided that I'm pretty much a fan of them all except the extremely ginormous and ones that sag too low.

^

i think Louis really needs to explain what he meant by fenders

fender is like the bumper on a car

do you not say that?

yes, we do say that - but i don't understand why he is making that comparison to boobs? Like is he trying to get at something underneath?

i was assuming he was worried about getting struck with them.

legend says that somewhere underneath all that boob lies a sandwich

All Boobs Great And Small

i guess its like bumper cars w/ boobies

A long time ago, I had a gf who got breast reductions that left one of her nipples fairly insensitive - it always made me want to cry.

i mean, that's just such an odd metaphor - fenders are generally made of less pliable material than what is underneath/what they are protecting - and it's the reverse with boobs

*takes down notes for the next Roman Orgy Fap*

xp Michael: it would make me want to cry, too!

fenders also usually wrap all the way around and I've seen some large breasts but never any THAT large

guys, i love boobs

kind of feel compelled to reiterate: on women

I meant BOAT fenders, sheesh

Also, ladies, how many of your lovers are/were serious pawers and squeezers? THAT is something I might have a problem with if it were to happen to me. It's the ass that's for the squeezing, not the tits.

http://www.boatfendersdirect.co.uk/images/fender-montage.jpg

^^^ still not breasts

Breast reductions often reduce sensitivity and damage a woman's ability to produce breast milk--when they do surgery to correct a noticeable size difference between a pair, they usually enlarge one instead of reducing the other because of this.

She had back issues and got reduced to c-cup, iIrc.

apparently breast reduction surgery has the greatest "glad i did it" rate than any other form of plastic surgery

Her tits were still 'real' and had perfect form. Fake breasts both scare and repel me.

true dat.

I've been a DD for the last ten years, and I've never had back problems, grooves in my shoulders, unwanted male attention, or any of the other problems that other large breasted women complain of. I'm apparently the only one, though.

ian, do you have some issue w/the proper function of breasts; whether they're primarily sexual or primarily for infant nutritition or something?

My friend kAy$ee is a DD and she never fails to crack me up with the shit that she stores in her tits: cell phones, lighters, money...

in them, or in the gap between?

once you go over D they start to generate storage cubicles

^^^^^ now that's Tuomas-level fun-removal right there (xpost)

under them.

I've been a DD for the last ten years, and I've never had ... problems

Nah, the few ladies I've known who have had reductions were in the like... G range.

apparently breast reduction surgery has the greatest "glad i did it" rate than any other form of plastic surgery

― sarahel, Monday, July 26, 2010 3:17 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark

as the son of someone who does reductions as his job, and as a friend to no less than 4 ladies who have done it: this sounds otm.

DD reductions are common. I've heard of D reductions.

I've heard women complain about Cs.

Cs are pretty awesome - not sure why someone would want a reduction from that.

Male attention (this was mostly about 20-30 years ago, back when B was average and C was rarer) and in some cases I think it was because they had been told over and over again that they should hate having larger than average breasts.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_nUgHhDbT9fU/SFAT9pweqHI/AAAAAAAAAgY/h-pbnUAeyOg/s400/jessica-biel-stealth-400ds0.jpg

"Pardon my C-cup."

B is still average though, right?

No. Because Americans weigh more than they used to, C is average now.

ya - they made a big deal abt that on the news a few years ago iirc.

they made a big deal about the boobs, not so much the weight and health issues etc.

Thought it was cause of hormones in the chickens we ate as kids

No. Hormones are banned in chicken in the US.

xp - heh, i heard the same thing, except it wasn't chickens it was milk!

or estrogen in the drinking water

I believe that hormones in meat, drinking water and personal care products are thought to be contributing factors to the fact that girls experience puberty much earlier now than years ago but I'm not sure if it contributes to the larger boob average.

I heard it was the supply of ample protein from a young age, but I could be wrong

I think it's because in a post-Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret world all of us have grown up with the magic powers of "we must, we must, we must increase our bust."

I think that all of these are factors tbh. Better nutrition, heavier kids, hormones etc.

and judy blume, of course

i have never wanted to increase my bust - i went through puberty at the age of 8 - but i think this was discussed on the no boys 1p3 thread

Smaller boobs seem to be more responsive to stimulation ime at least.

8! Wow. That's so young.

All my friends hit puberty at age eight or nine, it made me feel like a real, real latebloomer.

latebloomer to thread!

Abbott, how old are you? I went through puberty at nine. Most of the girls I went to school with went through puberty at 9-10. This was in the late seventies.

(And before anyone brings it up: The average puberty age for girls was 10-14 throughout most of history. The 16-18 age that gets brought up often comes from a single study of a group of malnourished girls in a 19th century workhouse.)

I am 27...this would have been in the late '80s. I didn't get mine until 14 ...I was starting to worry it was never gonna happen. I remember a girl punched me in the 8th grade locker room for not having boobs yet!

Late '80s or early '90s for friends, later for me.

(I'm 41, BTW)

I'm 35

I'm 70.

:D

I'm a pepper, you're a pepper, wouldn't you like to be a pepper too?

I got less interested in nipple play after I dated a professional dom woman (didn't find -that- out until after we'd already been together for a few weeks). One time we were having a little bit of an argument and she said "y'know, I know exactly how to rip your nipples clean off." INSTANT DISINTEREST.

are there people who get off on having their nips literally removed?

I dated a professional dom woman (didn't find -that- out until after we'd already been together for a few weeks).

this must have been one fascinating -- and possibly frightening! -- disclosure.

It came as a small surprise. She invited me along on a client call once and it was like she transformed into a completely different person. Fascinating.

xp I have no idea. Probably someone somewhere, though.

are there people who get off on having their nips literally removed?

J0rdan have you not learned not to ask these questions when I'm around? maybe you forgot about me, I'm the guy who linked to the story about the guy who had all his junk surgically removed as a gift for him dom

that guy should have gone with a dozen roses. better gift.

ban dom penis presentino

jesus i wish i hadn't read that.

The only thing I'm not a fan of is guys who actually bite/nip at the nips with teeth. Take it easy fellas! Ow. But, sadly, I'm cursed with weirdly unsensitive ones :( I'd explain why but I'm not TMI enough for ILTMI /wussbag.

Used to always be so selfconcious of being reasonably flat chested too (as a teen I was teased at the local pool if I wore a bikini "ha ha why did you bother, there's nothing to put in the top!"). It wasnt til I put on a bit of weight after 30 that I er.. grew a pair. But now I realise I dont mind so much cause at least no one ogles them in the street!

Also grabby mcgrab guys aren't so much fun. Sure, play around, but they arent executive stress toys, jesus.

grabby mcgrabber vs. givers of boob hickeys - which are worse?

Sorry y'all have fooled around with lame dudes.

basically i just want kenan to show up and lay out for me his breast-play routine.

I'm skipping most of the thread to respond to this, but I'll scroll up after.

Women seem to enjoy having their breasts handled, but not roughly or in ill-spirit. Obviously. Men seem to enjoy breasts in ways that I'd honestly rather not think too terribly much about, because "sexy" and "mother" should never happen in the same sentence unless you're James Brown.

Good lovers want to make you happy as much as you want to make them happy, and good sex is a feedback loop.

Ok, now I will read the thread.

Sar: I dont mind boob hickeys too much if its just sideboob stuff. But keep those teeth off the nipples PLEEEASE.

really - teeth on the nipples are ok, but it's gotta be worked up to, and sometimes i'm not in the mood for that. boob hickeys are not the product of anything all that pleasurable.

To my knowledge, I've never given anyone a hickey anywhere. I think I understand what it takes to give someone a hickey, and I don't understand the appeal of doing that. Boob or no boob.

I've had girls try to bite and suck random parts of me before, and I told them not to do that again, because really, wtf are you doing.

Yeah, hickeys? I haven't given a girl a hickey since I was 13. And that was only because we'd both heard having a hickey was a cool thing.

"If you really loved me, you'd give me an ugly bruise!"

At any rate, it's no way to treat a breast.

iirc you aren't supposed to put the entire thing in your mouth at once

ex-gf's mum used to have a saying that went along the lines of 'anything more than a mouthful's wasted'

have heard similar but with handful

Handful makes more sense. Shit, I have a mouthful.

Please don't use "shit" and "mouthful" in the same sentence from now on. I read too fast.

I don't buy it either way, though. There's always some underlying layer of preference that's difficult to work around, but most preferences in body shapes are pretty fluid, and I think most people find that out as they have more partners and more years to think about it.

xp Sorry, sincerely.

My preference in body shape is pretty much just, y'know, whichever one is in front of/underneath me.

I wouldn't say breasts are now or have ever been the first thing I notice on a woman. And at the age I'm at now, the first thing I usually do look for is a ring on the finger.

i don't agree with the handful/mouthful measurement as preferable btw. i got eyes too iirc.

Every titty is a special snowflake, all of them beautiful in their own way. Except for fake ones -- I'm totally with M White on that. Creepy stuff, that.

So is talking about breasts as if they're not attached to women.

But maybe that's too obvious to say.

pretty much understood in context of this and any similar thread i'd have thought, but ....?

anyway have no interest in unattached breasts, doesn't sound like any fun.

Well, it might be fun. Didn't you ever poke the jello just to make it wiggle? But erotic, no.

i only ever did that to jello in the long wait to get to do it to the real thing tbh.

tho i should be clear, i don't just poke boobs to see them wiggle or anything.

I do! And then I titter like the Pillsbury dough boy.

Hee hee!

i only ever did that to jello in the long wait to get to do it to the real thing tbh.

tho i should be clear, i don't just poke boobs to see them wiggle or anything.

There's an infamous game website banner from about 10 years ago that showed someone doing just that.

it wasn't me, if that's what you're alleging

men: what about your nipples? i really get off on boobs (any size), and nipples (men and women). people have very different sensitivities of course... i like nipple attention because it's a different sensation than anywhere else.

i was with a woman once who said she thought women's nipples were more sensitive in part because socially they're much more private than for men. i figured it had more to do with nerve endings, but what do i know

Depends on a lot of things, rly, they're not generally a sensitive area, but then an area doesn't have to be 'generally' sensitive for it to give you stomach-flips when the right person does the right things

that woman was a moron
xpost

attention iltmi, in the event that I sleep with any of you, please don't suck my nipples. thx in advance, your future lover, underrated aerosmith albums I have loved.

underrated nipples I have sucked

surrounded by a gross rainbow of hair

i have no problem with sucking but biting is 100% instant loss of all arousal

xp's that seems a bit strong tehresa, isn't there at least some possibility there's more of a thrill in the exposure/playing with the female breast because it's more generally not on show except during intimacy? it doesn't sound implausible to me, tbh

what does that even remotely have to do with nipple sensitivity?

eh like i said sensitivity, or maybe the abillity you have to concentrate on the physical sensations, depends a lot on context/situation too.

As a woman, I feel that it really does have to do with nerve endings. It could seem more exciting mentally bc of social issues, but physically, I'm sticking with science. My opinion. Ymmv.

i'm not partic hung up on this tbh

licking/sucking/nibbling anything north of the twig and berries does nothing for me. One girl was srsly upset that my neck and ears weren't an erogenous zone.

don't get anything out of someone licking/biting my nipples tbh. tickles a lil maybe.

Everyone is different. Neck and ears are by far the biggest "thing" for me. Much much more so than anything having to do with my boobs/nips what have you.

really would prefer my ears be left alone - boobs & neck are A-ok

it's a wonder anybody ever gets laid

yeah I'm gonna overdisclose for the 2nd time today but, future aerosmith lovers of this thread, when you are remembering to not suck my nipples, iltmi, you are 1000% free to go ape on on my ears and neck

it's a wonder anybody ever gets laid

you know it's really easy to tell a partner what you do and don't like, right?

depends on the person! some people are only into movie-love-scene sex

this was said upthread but kills the mood really quickly a lot of the time ime

xp!

tho really the only movie-scene sex i'm likely to be emulating is seth rogen in knocked up

Well you don't even have to actually tell them. If you respond differently to things you can pretty clearly indicate what you do and do not like and the other person should be able to pick up on that. Unless they're sorta, you know, clueless or something.

if you can communicate well with your partner there's no reason a little direction should adversely affect your experience.

This thread makes me think of that situation guys sometimes run into, the one where a girl is giving you head but not going down to suck on your nuts even though you'd really like her to. So you sheepishly ask, "could you suck my balls?" hoping she will, and then she does, but all you can think about is the sound of your own voice asking "could you suck my balls?".
― Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, December 2, 2004 3:05 AM (5 years ago) Bookmark

I meant that you can do this without words which makes the mood more likely to remain intact ime.

girl's y'all livin in some dream world where your partner doesn't think he's already the perfect lover imo

you can make a funny joke, then it would be like a movie

I mean, if you're not comfortable relating that info to someone, you may not want to be sleeping with them.
Xposts

i'm not for a second suggesting that the communication issues stem from you not being able to tell dudes this stuff!

TZA otm but sometimes in the heat of the moment nonverbal communication can work best. I think.

Oh yeah my comments were stand alone, not in opposition to yours, e. It can be very easy to effectively communicate sans words sometimes.

funny jokes are really underrated

I have a set of flash cards that depicts my preferences

ok just two flash cards actually

my prefs are contained on a dog tag around my neck

also punched in braille and functions as a memory stick to play audio instructions

My preferences are tattooed on my thighs--there's enough space there to provide some pretty through instructions, unfortunately.

People who think they're the perfect lovers without asking what the other person likes suck, in my opinion. Okay, maybe during the very first time you fuck it might kinda ruin the tension, but if you keep on doing it more than once, you should find out what your partner's individual turn-ons and turn-offs are. And like other people already said, it's not that hard to communicate this non-verbally, if you're afraid of sounding too academic.

People who think they're the perfect lovers without asking what the other person likes suck, in my opinion.

well, yeah, dude

when you are remembering to not suck my nipples, iltmi, you are 1000% free to go ape on on my ears and neck

*furiously takes notes*

*gives Trayce's notes to Mrs. underrated aerosmith*

Don't blame Trayce, Mr. Underrated Aerosmith just gave us the permission!

Hahah :) Hey, a girl can only dream ;) (sorry JD)

xp - not blaming Trayce - just figured the Missus might wanna know

I knew there was a reason to hide my notes!

Ears, neck, nipples, go to town ladies. I'm all for it.

Michael - quelle surprise

I am an equal-opportunity nipple man and perhaps that's what has alwys spared me from ian's discomfiture.

As for me, I am horribly biased against the left one.

^^^(I have been aon a role of making horribliest formjed "jokes" of pain to-day so apologies in advance)

I am ILX's queen of horribly formed joaks, so don't worry.

That quote from "Bryan" above makes me think that he's now a writer on Louis C.K.'s new tv show

ice cold bitches melt down when in the clutch
they want they titties sucked -- ice cream

I was watching a show called 'best of the cathouse' and I remember one of the bunny ranch ladies saying "they aren't an atari switch". that quote is going to stick in my mind forever

or maybe it was "they aren't atari switches" though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCDkbSFn6Zs

that is offensively bad; they must be doing something right.

what in the fuck did I just watch o_0

If you found that freaky, check this one out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvPCzQbBM2I

(Much better tune too.)